Open Thread – Tues 15 March 2022


Caesar Crossing the Rubicon, Adolphe Yvon, 1875

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132andBush
132andBush
March 18, 2022 2:27 pm

Rosie: I said that.

Rex: I’m only small scale so that’s me for pre plant and in crop.

Gab: Yes, I would include those in the first group (family pressure).

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 2:27 pm

I don’t know much about Gallagher…although the few times I’ve watched her I’ve found her to be a mediocrity

A former Chief Minister of the ACT, of no great distinction (like all of them).

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 2:35 pm

I’m only small scale so that’s me for pre plant and in crop.

With grain prices the way they are, your $1200/t for 50t should pay for itself handsomely. 🙂

(The Diesel prices could be a bit nicer, though…)

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 2:36 pm

Bruce of Newcastle:

In the latest effort from British institutions to cancel British history, National Museum Wales (NMW) has declared that the use of steam trains is “rooted in colonialism and racism”.

Some days I get up and think “I can’t wait for this rotten society to collapse just to get it over and done with.”
Other days, I get quite pessimistic.
🙂

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 2:37 pm

So you did, my apologies.

pete of perth
pete of perth
March 18, 2022 2:44 pm

Sitting outside emergency at Charlies. No visitors thanks to mxclown. Latest admission is (probably) a homeless bloke accompanied by cops and ambos. Not violent. Maybe mental issues. Poor bastard.

Zipster
Zipster
March 18, 2022 2:44 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 2:44 pm

I have just put this into The Australian for approval as a comment on the issue of a huge man (he’s a bonzer specimen of broad-shouldered developed manhood) winning a significant women’s swimming competition.

I will let you all know how it fares.

A change in the current testosterone level requirement will not alter the fact that even with newer rules about transgender competitors women will still have to compete against a male’s broad frame, narrower pelvis, greater musculature and more capacious heart and lungs. These all develop in males during puberty and continue into early adulthood to grow and change.

Men who ‘feel’ they are women are not actually women. They should be treated with courtesy as per their desires where it is simply a matter of social acceptance of their personal choice. But we need to be able to say, without censorship, that trans women are not born women in a physiological sense and they should not compete in physical events with born women.

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 2:47 pm

I note the silence of Hanson-Dung

Methinx, Sassy Two Dads might have aquired some political acumen (unlikely, but .. LOL!) during lockdown and is realising that keeping stum, occasionally, has a lot of benefits .. she’s been able to watch the Grace-less/Britny shenanigans and now the Labor dolls implosion and stay on the sidelines .. no idea if she’s up for re-election this time but she seems to be playing her cards close to her (ample) chest .. LOL!

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 2:49 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
March 18, 2022 at 1:27 pm
Dover, in spite of perhaps copping a bit of it, I think the clean-up is a very good idea.

Thank you for taking control.

Yea Liz. Great idea. They do the same at Twotter, Fuckerbook , Giggle , YouTube. They pat themselves on the back each morning for canceling disagreeable comments .

I never thought I’d see the day Catallaxy would be twattered like this. But here we are.

Dover, are you going follow say, Twitter rules or Facebook, just so we know?

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 2:50 pm

But we need to be able to say, without censorship, that trans women are not born women in a physiological sense and they should not compete in physical events with born women.

I want them to compete in the episiotomy and cracked nipples event.

Just to let “fairness” prevail.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 18, 2022 2:51 pm

Fauci reappeared overnight.
Looks like he had something removed from his forehead.

That “666” was a bit of a tell.

Delta A
Delta A
March 18, 2022 2:52 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
March 18, 2022 at 2:44 pm

Excellent comment.

My views exactly.

Kneel
Kneel
March 18, 2022 2:52 pm

“But likely Harris will end up sworn in and struggling her way through what remains of Biden’s term if he goes any time soon.”

My suspicion is that when (not if, when) the Dems lose the house (and maybe the senate too) in November, then either Biden will be removed by the 25th amendment or will “resign” and they’ll leave the Cackler as a lame duck Pres, who can then be gotten rid of (or kept as a “we’re gonna lose anyway” candidate) in the ’24 Pres primaries. But most likely she’ll be gotten rid of so HillBillary can have another go – HRC can bring in a lot of cash, and has recently re-opened the Clinton Slush Fund Foundation

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 2:53 pm

I have just put this into The Australian for approval as a comment on the issue of a huge man (he’s a bonzer specimen of broad-shouldered developed manhood) winning a significant women’s swimming competition.

The only way this issue is gonna be solved is the Rita Panahi solution .. the girls in the race(s) refuse to compete! .. he can swim as fast as he likes but with no one else in the pool it all becomes a circus act ..!
The fact that the swimming authorities are/have turned a blind eye to the situation just illustrates how well Woke-ism & political correctness are taking over everything they touch …

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 2:54 pm

Dover

Who pressured you like this because I was hearing that the free speech agitator Hallward Hughes was on Discord advocating strongly that your site should be cleared of anyone who disagrees with him and the incel.

Has he contacted you?

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 2:54 pm

srr:

The New York Times is facing criticism from its oldest rival after quietly reversing its stance on the authenticity of emails found on Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, mentioning only in passing that the messages were real and not the product of a Russian disinformation campaign.

So what use is this information now?
Will the Senate or the military or the Supreme Court dissolve the administration and call for new elections?
Will the People rise up in righteous fury and storm the Senate/White House and drag the traitors into the street and hang them from nooses?
Of course not.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 2:56 pm

Feelthebern:

How is Albo going to cover this up?
Kitching had made a bullying complaint.
Like everything, the coverup is what blows you up.

Damn straight.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 2:59 pm

From MSN News:

From AAP:

Australians are “lucky bastards” to be avoiding the gas price crunch in Europe, according to a former British energy regulator.

Dermot Nolan, ex-CEO of the UK Office of Gas and Electricity Markets (OFGEM), said on Friday the soaring gas price in the United Kingdom was now beyond the control of regulators and companies.

Even before the war in Ukraine, UK gas prices were up more than 50 per cent and were now projected to rise another 60-70 per cent over the next six months, he told the Energy Networks conference in Brisbane.

Most British homes are still heated by gas, leaving the population vulnerable to price spikes, while Australians enjoy the power bill buffer of world-leading rooftop solar and more renewable energy in the electricity grid.

“You are, pardon my language, lucky bastards for not having that level of increase in terms of your gas prices,” Nolan said.

“I’m very glad I’m not head of OFGEM anymore.”

Former wonk says his organisation’s price-fixing methods have failed in the face of strategic and market reality, and the journo-drone drew the wrong ideological conclusions as to why.

A temporary amd correctable* gas spike trumps long-term artificial inflation of power bills, just so a bunch of Upper Middle Class Public Servants amd Doctors’ Wives in the Goat Cheese Belts of our capital cities can feel less guilt about their superiority…

* Don’t solely buy Russian gas. Simples!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 18, 2022 3:01 pm

Many people also got vaccinated, well before vaccine mandates and passports, because covid represented a risk to their health.

Or the health of someone in close and personal contact.

In any event, willingly enrolled slaves of Socialism, COW’s, and catamites to Klaus Schwab. No other possibilities entertained.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 3:02 pm

All power to Catherine Deves, who is heading organised resistance to this gender lunacy.

She has been on Bolt and Outsiders quite a bit. She is an excellent spokeswoman for the cause of women’s sporting rights to fair competition without born males being admitted to competition.

I remember forty years ago when ‘sexual harassment’ became introduced into university organisational life, well-meaning senior administrators didn’t know what to do with it. In my university several old-time gentlemen who would occasionally put a fatherly arm around a female student were the first to be crucified on this piece of ideology; previously any student offended would simply shrug them off. The administrative response was to hire as Equal Opportunity and Anti-Harissment Officers some women claiming to be able to introduce a ‘reformed’ culture that would solve all problems. They hired Marxists in every single case, and so began the merry-go-round of the extensive Marxist bureaucracies we have today controlling every aspect of social sexuality.

If only administrators then had some guts and said they would deal with any problems themselves instead of running scared and shunting it off.

johanna
johanna
March 18, 2022 3:06 pm

dragnetsays:

March 18, 2022 at 2:10 pm

I doubt if Mr Kitching aka Andrew Landeryou is going to just let the recent events wash by.
I would hope that he is going to go into full tribal retribution mode once the mourning period is over.

Oh, my Lordy wordy yes.
His VexNews blog took no prisoners and made for salacious reading.

I was an avid reader of VexNews, but took everything with a goodly lump of salt. It was, among other things, a vehicle for settling scores in obscure factional disputes in the Vicco ALP and various unions. There was a lot of lyin’ going on there.

While I don’t for a moment believe that the Mean Girls and others in the ALP killed KK, it would be agreeable to see Andrew L (who was apparently on good terms with his ex) go after them. When roused, he is a formidable and relentless opponent. There’s nothing like a brawl in the ALP and the unions to brighten one’s day. 🙂

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 3:07 pm

Zipster:

‘Rooted In Colonialism and Racism’ – National Museum ‘Cancels’ Steam Trains (17 Mar)
How is this any different to Mao’s cultural purges?

It isn’t.
Antifa is the re-embodiment of Mao’s Red Guards. They are immune to threats, coercion and reason.
Mindless bots sent out on a mission to destroy everything the State disagrees with.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 3:09 pm

Yes Dr F, I was thinking of those categories too.
It might even have been oh well I get the flu shot because I’d rather a sore arm than a week feeling like death warmed up, ditto for the covid.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 3:11 pm

All of the Maxist ‘hires’ by the way were women (no men) from sociology and education areas who couldn’t get employed elsewhere after their Women’s Studies PhD’s. A very few became pragmatists in the job, but all were schooled in post-modernist relativism which logically leads on to ideologies of ‘fluidity’ regarding all ‘truths’ – eventually challenging even scientific truths such as biological sex.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 3:12 pm

Landeryou and Kitching were, apparently, happily married at the time of her death.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 3:13 pm

The invention of the steam engine is directly, and 99% the reason slavery ended.

Keep a barn full of surly sods who kept eating, pooping and dying at inconvenient times or have the same “horsepower” supplied by a ton of coal?

No steam engines, no freed slaves.

Also I present the grandest “gerbil worming ate my hamsters‘ story for the day..

Nine cattle were struck by lightning and killed in central Queensland earlier this month during an incident experts say could become more common with climate change.

Grazier John Ellrott said a heatwave that was affecting his property at Morinish and the surrounding Rockhampton region on 7 March culminated in a dry electrical storm. The next day Ellrott discovered his cows dead in a heap in a paddock.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 3:13 pm

No word on if it was ball lightening though.

Gab
Gab
March 18, 2022 3:14 pm

Good comment above, Lizzie. I do disagree on this point:

Men who ‘feel’ they are women are not actually women. They should be treated with courtesy as per their desires where it is simply a matter of social acceptance of their personal choice.

I understand why, however it is only supporting their delusion and they need proper physiological treatment, compassionate always to their blight, otherwise it is just enabling them and of course the boundaries will continue to be pushed by the agenda-mongers to not just that of the sporting realm. But society is such nowadays that that will never happen because we are already in the time ” when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us”’. To paraphrase St Anthony the Great.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 3:15 pm

The woman hired by Macquarie University was a lesbian who delighted in attending all meetings wearing dirty sneakers and soiled torn jeans as some sort of statement. But her voice was law and she insisted on reverently being called ‘doctor’ due to her PhD. In inter-university meetings I noted the Vice-Chancellor at Macquarie, a noted hotbed of leftism at that time, particularly the Law Faculty, fawning over this woman with comments about how she was doing such superb work.

A fish rots from the head.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 3:21 pm

ball lightening

Phrasing.

Also, quite suspect.

But mostly phrasing. 🙂

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 3:23 pm

It would, in reality, be udder lightening.

On account of them being dead.

Gab
Gab
March 18, 2022 3:23 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/16/targeted-discrimination-nsw-government-rejects-mark-lathams-trans-bill

Mar 16 2022
The New South Wales government has confirmed it will not support One Nation MP Mark Latham’s controversial bill to ban discussion of gender diversity in classrooms, saying it could cause “targeted discrimination” against trans students.

First put forward in 2020, Latham’s “Parental Rights” bill sought to prohibit teachers from discussing “the ideology of gender fluidity to children in schools” and prevent schools from supporting transgender students without parental consent.

In September, a parliamentary inquiry into the bill that was chaired by Latham recommended more far-reaching prohibitions be included in departmental policies on trans students in schools.

The changes would have prohibited students from confidentially coming out as trans to their teachers, banned trans students from playing school sports aligning with their gender from high school, required trans students to undergo a full medical transition to use toilets aligning with their gender, and required parental consent before any discussion of matters concerning gender or sexuality.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 3:24 pm

John H

Davidson was loathe to ban anyone and with the exception bird he basically banned fuckheads every 30 years.

Liz’s comment is just self serving crap. She’s never agitated against any loathsome comments except when they apply to her.

What are the rules? Can say Putin be criticised or is that beyond the pale.

Good stuff comes out of stoushes too. Look at how I’ve changed the behaviour of some of the pile onners for instance and eventually became my little bitches.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 3:25 pm

What happens if Russian Conquest wins the Slipper tomorrow?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 3:27 pm

Nine cattle were struck by lightning and killed in central Queensland earlier this month …

Could it have been …

thefrollickingmolesays:

March 18, 2022 at 3:13 pm

No word on if it was ball lightening though.

Oh, right you are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 3:28 pm

Are there any independent witnesses to Benny Wong’s supposed apology to Kimberley Kitching for the “If you had children …” remark? Or do we just have to take her word for it?

PS, other members of the “mean girrrlz” don’t count as “independent”.

amortiser
amortiser
March 18, 2022 3:28 pm

West Indian female cricketer has just collapsed in the ground in a World Cup game.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 3:32 pm

What happens if Russian Conquest wins the Slipper tomorrow?

We carpet-bomb Flemington?

Or equip all the ants with Javelins? 🙂

(Much as I think screwing with groundskeepers is fun, good turf is hard to come by…)

amortiser
amortiser
March 18, 2022 3:33 pm

She’s got up. Doubled over. Looks like severe abdominal pain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 3:39 pm

Oh and Anne got shunted for linking to Bosi-style defamatory pedo stuff.

Zipster
Zipster
March 18, 2022 3:40 pm

The New South Wales government has confirmed it will not support One Nation MP Mark Latham’s controversial bill to ban discussion of gender diversity in classrooms, saying it could cause “targeted discrimination” against trans students.

liberals have the balls of gnat

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 3:40 pm

DrBeauGansays:

March 18, 2022 at 3:35 pm

I’m here for facts about the universe

Buy a set of Encyclopedia Brittanica then.
🙂

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 3:41 pm

Sanchez

Of course it was a ball of lightening from one of the site’s marvel action heroes -Struth and USSR.

local oaf
March 18, 2022 3:42 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 3:43 pm

JCsays:

March 18, 2022 at 3:41 pm

Sanchez

Of course it was a ball of lightening from one of the site’s marvel action heroes -Struth and USSR.

Oh, yes.
Ball lightning and COWS!
So obvious.

Speedbox
March 18, 2022 3:45 pm

Bluey says:
March 18, 2022 at 12:25 pm

Thanks for that. Interesting article and a lot to unpack, but I will try to keep this short(ish).

Fundamentally, I agree with most the fellow says. He is correct that the Russians typically do not engage in ‘shock and awe’ type tactics we see with US military.

For decades the Russians have partly painted themselves as a fast moving tank army and that’s true but they are just as much an artillery army. They do usually like to encircle and then demolish the (trapped or immovable) target with artillery. I’ve not heard it referred to as ‘anaconda warfare’ but it is an apt description.

We also know that the use of ‘secondary’ or mercenary forces is also fairly typical. It has been well reported that Syria is sending some forces and it is almost certain they will be used in direct combat with the Ukrainians. The principle is that Russian regular forces initially probe the defences, send in secondary forces (to do the serious and bloody grunt work) on those known defensive positions, then follow up with higher calibre forces to clean up and secure. I’m not sure if the Syrians know what they are heading towards but apparently, they are being offered $3,000 per month, which is a King’s ransom by their standards. Not sure how many will collect.

Of course, airpower plays a big role but the other guys assessment seems over-stated. He said that Russia has complete control of the skies but other information suggests only from 5,000ft or above. Anything below 5,000ft is at serious risk due to arms supplied by the US. Some aircraft above that level are at risk but ‘less so’. (Maybe it depends on your point of view).

There is no doubt that the MSM reports are grossly one-sided and camouflage Ukrainian losses and exaggerate Russian losses. Some of what’s reported is just laughable.

The Russian approach has been to minimise civilian casualties. The Russian methodology can be utterly brutal to surround their enemy and crush them but in this instance they seem to have taken a lot of effort to, where possible, minimise those casualties. Of course, civilians will be killed in any war and in one way, Zelensky is responsible by geeing up his population and arming civilians with weapons. With a gun and bravado (but no training) these people are at extreme risk of being killed. Of course, a significant number of 100% innocents have already died and this is a terrible tragedy.

Controlling west of the river is interesting. Personally, I think they have to go west but on the other hand, controlling the eastern side of the river and the south (across the river) as far west as Odesa, may suffice. Trouble is, if they don’t, this allows the Zelensky government to set up in Lviv (assuming Kyiv isn’t viable and that Zelensky survives) which is much less than ideal. The thing about Kyiv is that the Russians don’t want to recreate Stalingrad but urban warfare which will be a disaster for everyone. Many tens of thousands will die so street to street urban warfare is extremely unlikely to happen. So, if it comes to it, it will broadly be a ‘starvation’ approach – no food but also no electricity, water or other services. This isn’t 1942/3 – the majority of the citizens don’t know how, and are not prepared to cope with, the loss of 21st century services in a modern city. The populace eventually surrender and the city is largely intact.

But whether (or how far) they go west, Russian military tactics are highly integrated with politics. The military tactics are merely a tool to gain or reinforce the political initiative. Thus, we will see even more movement towards a ceasefire and negotiated settlement. The Russians don’t want to flatten the country but will continue towards encirclement and then demolish for as long as it takes. Zelensky knows this and so he is already making very small concessions – plus one large one about NATO (which was the start of this thing to begin with).

Runnybum
Runnybum
March 18, 2022 3:48 pm

I gotta admit I am happily unjabbed.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 3:50 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong has admitted she raised Kimberley Kitching’s lack of children during a meeting in 2019.

Like many of the ‘same sex attracted’ I have met over the years, the sheer viciousness of the attacks is routine behaviour. It is not abnormal in those circles.

cohenite
March 18, 2022 3:51 pm

Biden and boris have fucked the West through their green energy bullshit:

https://mailchi.mp/edad6c8f3e32/us-lawmaker-introduces-bill-to-restart-keystone-xl-pipeline-187842?e=170323d89f

Kneel
Kneel
March 18, 2022 3:54 pm

“…these people are seething for the most part.”

Yep – I’m one.
Frankly, my aim is not “revenge” or anything, but making sure it never happens again.
The mandates, I mean.
FFS, Australia signed up to UN Universal Human Rights more than 30 years ago, which include the right to bodily autonomy and the right to earn a living. These grubs decided they had the right to make me choose between these two, so fuck them and the horse they rode in on.
Worse, I was “essential” and could go in to work until the vax was available, then suddenly I’m not essential any more and they can put me in an untenable position and risk me saying “no” and no longer working – would that I could have.
I tried to complain to the appropriate “independent” authorities (AHRC, NSW Omsbudman etc), but they all said “not my job”, so as far as I am concerned they are useless and can be permanently de-funded. What is the point of a Human Rights Commission if it doesn’t protect me from a government taking away my human rights without due process under Australian law?
I will vote for the party that legislates to make such illegal – that is currently UAP. OK, you got my vote, don’t care what other policies you have, just fix this so it can’t happen again. I would rather that the constitution was changed instead to include a list of negative rights, but a law will do for now.
And further, I will never vote for any who supported this, or who had the power to over-rule it and didn’t – I’m looking at you ScoMo, and the NSW Libs. So PHON as second pref, and LDP as third.

You’re damn right I’m seething. And the way they have grabbed onto the distraction squirrel of “Ukraine!” makes it worse, not better. I do not have the attention span of the proverbial goldfish and I’m not completely stupid, but I always own up to my mistakes – pity you grubs never do. I’ll make sure you pay the price for your arrogance, one way or another. I’ll try the soap box. Then the ballot box. I will try to arrange one for the jury box. And if all that fails, then I’ll reach for the ammo box. I will not take no for an answer.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 3:54 pm

Fresh salmon is $33 a kilo at woolworths, I know that is probably much cheaper than at a fishmongers.
I better not ruin it.

Indolent
Indolent
March 18, 2022 3:57 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 4:00 pm

Yes, Gab, in part that ‘let them be what they want to be’ phasing was so that the censors on the Oz couldn’t have a go at me for that; let them go at me directly for the real issue of sporting unfairness.
A lot of transgenderism is a form of in-group play and delusion and the libertarian in me says OK, let them be, but of course they don’t see it like that and want to enforce other people to be like them. So basically I agree with you, we need to call out and treat mental delusions as just that.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 4:04 pm

How are you going to cook it rosie?

srr
srr
March 18, 2022 4:04 pm

Winston Smith says:
March 18, 2022 at 2:54 pm
srr:

The New York Times is facing criticism from its oldest rival after quietly reversing its stance on the authenticity of emails found on Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, mentioning only in passing that the messages were real and not the product of a Russian disinformation campaign.

So what use is this information now?
Will the Senate or the military or the Supreme Court dissolve the administration and call for new elections?
Will the People rise up in righteous fury and storm the Senate/White House and drag the traitors into the street and hang them from nooses?
Of course not.

I believe that across all media [Industry, Entertainment, MS & Social], ‘The Message’, now is –
‘Give up.
Everybody knows that Truth & Justice is what we say it is.’

I feel sad for those out there like the Canberra Karen who believe that what the media cares about is what matters.

I’m more of the school of thought that, when the media is telling us they get away with murder so we’d best give up, it’s because they’re hanging on to power by a hair.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 18, 2022 4:06 pm

To be honest, I think Dover runs the blog better than Sinc did and we don’t have to put up with the disappointment of the bombers year after year. Not so much as an economics blog (which I am grateful for) as world events have overtaken them. Dover’s ability to put up with some of the stoushes has surprised me and quite possibly himself as well. Blogging is not for one prone to fainting fits. Each one of us has something to offer, take it as you please. Nothing is rarely black or white, if it was what a boring lot we would be and probably not bother coming here. Thankyou Dover.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 4:08 pm

Blogging is not for one prone to fainting fits. 

Fuck off, you pooftah pansy!!!
😉

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 18, 2022 4:10 pm

Cooked Salmon Teriyaki with 6 side dishes the other night. Yum, ate so much couldn’t eat breakfast next day.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 18, 2022 4:13 pm

Not one for fainting fits, try boo! Thancho

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 4:14 pm

GreyRangasays:
March 18, 2022 at 4:06 pm
To be honest, I think Dover runs the blog better than Sinc did and we don’t have to put up with the disappointment of the bombers year after year. Not so much as an economics blog (which I am grateful for) as world events have overtaken them. Dover’s ability to put up with some of the stoushes has surprised me and quite possibly himself as well. Blogging is not for one prone to fainting fits. Each one of us has something to offer, take it as you please. Nothing is rarely black or white, if it was what a boring lot we would be and probably not bother coming here. Thankyou Dover.

Top post, GR and I second the “Thankyou Dover” comment.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 4:16 pm

I am going to try the tagliatelle recipe I linked early this morning calli.
It looks reasonably fool proof.
But I have the skills to ruin anything.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:17 pm

Memory of an elephant.

I think they’re still pissed about dropping the ball in the 1200s.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 18, 2022 4:18 pm

And further, I will never vote for any who supported this, or who had the power to over-rule it and didn’t – I’m looking at you ScoMo, and the NSW Libs. So PHON as second pref, and LDP as third

Correct, from ‘Always Liberal’ to ‘Never again’ at both state and federal level in one term – Well done Scomo!

PS.. handing out “Family First’ how to votes tomorrow in Adelaide – thats a first too.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 4:20 pm

I think they’re still pissed about dropping the ball in the 1200s.

They should have considered lightening it, maybe?

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 4:22 pm

Looks good, rosie. I’ve made that one (or one very much like it) before.

If you’re cooking the sliced salmon (usually comes in packs of four) it’s a 4 1/2 minute cook – pan hot as the sun’s core, salt the skin side with Maldon or other flaked salt, 1 1/2 minutes skin side, 1 minute for the three other sides (use the oven timer).

Off the heat. I usually serve with salad and Kewpi wasabi mayo. Mmmmmm. The salmon is still a bit creamy pink inside rather than cooked to billy-oh.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 4:25 pm

Kneel says:
March 18, 2022 at 3:54 pm

Wot Kneel said.

But everyone who needs a Devil to stone while this latest eruption of societal whoopiness plays itself out can keep chucking their pebbles at me in the meantime.

Just don’t get butthurt if I choose to lob them back.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 4:27 pm

Zipster:

“This is a dangerous situation”. Tucker.

The US is headed for a race war and the usual race baiters and fellow travelers think they will survive it.
And while that’s going on, China, Russia and Iran will move.
Which is why the US is heading for a race war.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 18, 2022 4:28 pm

Oh come onsays:
March 18, 2022 at 12:28 pm
Labor senators Penny Wong, Kristina Keneally and Katy Gallagher make joint statement about Kimberley Kitching bullying allegations

The narrative fail going on here is priceless.

Too right. Check this out from OCO’s link.

In her statement, Senator Wong said she “deeply regrets” the comment and said she had apologised to Senator Kitching when the remarks were first reported.

After these matters were publicly reported, more than two years ago, Senator Wong discussed the matter with Senator Kitching and apologised,” the statement read.

After it was reported.

The sincerity just radiates through cyberspace, doesn’t it.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 4:29 pm

No comment , Dover?

🙂

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 4:29 pm

Thank you Calli, I bought skinless so I’ll adjust slightly.
I don’t have Maldon but I do have some flamigo country salt I dragged back from France.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 4:30 pm

It’s muddy, right Dover.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:31 pm

It’s going about as well as kd’s last album.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 4:31 pm

Flamingo

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 4:31 pm

Someone needs to improve the propaganda output ..
you sez Ukraine .. I sez Lebanon .. LOL!

https://t.me/toresaysPlus/18010

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 4:31 pm

Faulty, for threatening Sinc and his family.
ussr for threatening to find and dox others and ‘unleash her heavy relatives’ on them.

bonkers and not in a nice way

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 4:33 pm

Liz’s comment is just self serving crap. She’s never agitated against any loathsome comments except when they apply to her.

I’m pretty libertarian in mind, JC. I always said I am against banning anyone and I still hold to that.
When comments on the old Cat got too objectionable, Sinc would come in with his ‘gentle people’ reminders and once when it got too far out of hand he closed down for a few days in exasperation.
He also relied a lot on self-regulation, on others saying to some hold on, you’ve gone too far.

I think I said that to you only once, years ago now, about some donkey penis stuff once re a female commenter, someone I had no reason to think very kindly about but I said I thought that comment went too far. I probably went too far sometimes too, returning serve usually. Mostly I’m just an old-fashioned girl and the donkey penis was stuff I last heard in the wrecking yard. I was shocked then too.

Self-regulation is best. And a bit of give and take. Up to individuals, and ultimately Dover can set whatever standard he wants. I would object if viewpoints on matters not to do with individuals bickering at each other and boring others, but substantive issues, like Putin, Morrison (love ’em, hate ’em etc), delusional trannies, saintly females, Covid policies, jabs, the Labor mean girls etc, were censored as they are on The Oz or Twitter. I don’t think Dover wants to do that.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 4:33 pm

Biden and boris have fucked the West through their green energy bullshit:

Boris is at least allowing reactors to be built.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:35 pm

Compulsory preferential voting is all that is keeping both factions of the UniParty in business at the moment.

Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 4:36 pm

Thanks for having a look Speedbox. I note a Col. Tom Kratman commented at the bottom of the article. He is someone I regard, without getting into the why, as worth listening to. If he’s talking about starving Kiev out there’s a very good chance that’s the way it’ll play out if the Russians don’t get a negotiated settlement.

I am worried about the anti aircraft weapons pouring into Ukraine. Another blog I read the author had a job, a long time ago, of tracking down stingers that went to Afghanistan to fight the USSR. He reckons there’s stacks out there in some very unsavory hands. Drug cartels in Mexico for example, are supposed to be well armed with them.

Of course, all we can do now is wait and see how it unfolds.

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 4:38 pm

The New York Times is facing criticism from its oldest rival after quietly reversing its stance on the authenticity of emails found on Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, mentioning only in passing that the messages were real and not the product of a Russian disinformation campaign.

I’ve had a copy of the H/D on my computer since it was 1st uploaded but never read it .. maybe time to have a squizz see what all the hoo haa is about ..!

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:39 pm

Maybe the CIA should superglue an Apple tile onto their stingers before handing them over to the “good guys”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 4:40 pm

First.

I’m pretty libertarian in mind, JC

Then this.

I would object if viewpoints on matters not to do with individuals bickering at each other and boring others

Who the fuck are you to dictate what goes on here?
You are a sook.
You give it.
But you can’t take it.

Zipster
Zipster
March 18, 2022 4:41 pm

For decades the Russians have partly painted themselves as a fast moving tank army and that’s true but they are just as much an artillery army. They do usually like to encircle and then demolish the (trapped or immovable) target with artillery. I’ve not heard it referred to as ‘anaconda warfare’ but it is an apt description.

The use of the term cauldron by Russian reports makes a lot more sense now

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 4:44 pm

The use of the term cauldron by Russian reports makes a lot more sense now

They got quite good at it in the mid-40s.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 18, 2022 4:44 pm

Slow cooked roast shoulder lamb stabbed a la grec with garlic and rosemary offcuts for us tongight.
Our daughter is flying down from Queensland for lunch tomorrow with old College friends.
Her husband is home with the three little grandies for the weekend, all under 8, the baby still only one.
She is a far better cook than me, so I am making an effort here. Eggplant compote with the lamb.

Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 4:45 pm

Zipstersays:
March 18, 2022 at 4:41 pm
For decades the Russians have partly painted themselves as a fast moving tank army and that’s true but they are just as much an artillery army. They do usually like to encircle and then demolish the (trapped or immovable) target with artillery. I’ve not heard it referred to as ‘anaconda warfare’ but it is an apt description.

The use of the term cauldron by Russian reports makes a lot more sense now

Yes, I don’t think most translators quite understand the correct context for english speakers. Although a cauldron is apt symbolism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:46 pm

Hunter’s laptop – just the latest conspiracy theory that was false, until it wasn’t.

Given the choice between various elements of the MSM and4Chan it’s probably 50:50 at this stage.

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 4:46 pm

Are there any independent witnesses to Benny Wong’s supposed apology to Kimberley Kitching for the “If you had children …” remark? Or do we just have to take her word for it?

Shirley, we have too ! .. unless your suggesting that That Chap Wong’s word is worth less than Britny’s word .. BRADBURY won’t be ‘appy .. LOL!
shame, shame, shame ..!

Speedbox
March 18, 2022 4:46 pm

Bluey says:
March 18, 2022 at 4:36 pm

I don’t think any of us can see Russian forces going street-to-street in Kyiv. We all know what a disaster, for everyone, that would be and, the city would be destroyed. (it is a beautiful city and it would be a terrible thing to destroy it). Encirclement seems like an obvious solution.

Hopefully, it won’t get to that and a political solution will be negotiated.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
March 18, 2022 4:48 pm

Eggplant compote
aka, Babaghanoush.
Father’s Favourite.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 18, 2022 4:48 pm

Faulty, for threatening Sinc and his family.
ussr for threatening to find and dox others and ‘unleash her heavy relatives’ on them.

Iampeter got smote.
Being the the most mentally retarded shithead in the history of sentient life in this or any conceivable alternative universe wasn’t enough.
It didn’t happen till he started persistently accusing anyone who disagreed with him of being in favour of concentration camps and genocide.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:50 pm

kd wrong’s spin merchants are probably doing 10,000 rpm at the moment. That is why they are paid the big bucks.

Delta A
Delta A
March 18, 2022 4:51 pm

handing out “Family First’ how to votes tomorrow in Adelaide

I heard that FF are preferencing Greens. Hope it isn’t so.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 4:52 pm

There have been some rather dramatic smitings over the years. And meltdowns.

Drink blogging might have featured. Just a suspicion. 😀

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 4:52 pm

Who the fuck are you to dictate what goes on here?
You are a sook.
You give it.
But you can’t take it.

Yes. I may add the scroll wheel is glowing hot today.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 4:53 pm

That’s muddy though Dover.

You’ve allowed racist comments and you’ve allowed Drillers pathetic stoush and grudge trolling to go on. Are you going to patrol this Kunt’s behaviour and ask he introduce his own subjects?

How about that mental case moron, you had here until he pretended to flounce and is now testing the waters? Day in day out the dickhead was criticising libertarians because we make nafink.
Will you moderate that bullshit?

And there’s USSR and Struth. What are you going to do about their abuse?

How about Hallward pathetic comments essentially running a propaganda scam against vaxes with crap? Are they allowed because they support your views?

And how about straight lying that we often see from both hutustix and of course , the Driller. What happens there?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 4:53 pm

Iampeter got smote.
Being the the most mentally retarded shithead in the history of sentient life in this or any conceivable alternative universe wasn’t enough.

Everyone was a leftist but him.

Worse, they were ‘politically illiterate leftists.’

What a rhetorical piñata that man was. Good times. 🙂

#IamNotMissed

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 4:54 pm

Lizzie:

Men who ‘feel’ they are women are not actually women. They should be treated with courtesy as per their desires where it is simply a matter of social acceptance of their personal choice.

No.
Just no.
They were given an inch and took not only a mile, but demanded worship of their delusions.
To encourage others, they should be relegated back to their original position as sad lonely freaks who need reality adjustments. And keep them away from the kids.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 4:54 pm

Drink blogging might have featured.

I find that it helps … up to a point.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 4:56 pm

kd wrong’s spin merchants

“Turn me round,” she said?

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 4:57 pm

Nah, let them all have a go. Until they’re mean to me.

Then give ‘em the boot! 😀

That’s how it works, doesn’t it?

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 4:58 pm

Or…you could try this in trolling emergencies.

Gab
Gab
March 18, 2022 5:00 pm

Delta Asays:
March 18, 2022 at 4:51 pm
handing out “Family First’ how to votes tomorrow in Adelaide

I heard that FF are preferencing Greens. Hope it isn’t so.

Delta, in similar vein, I read the Libs are preferencing Greens as well. Time to give the three parties the flick.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 5:01 pm

Please ban calli for doxxing half of the Cat. Not me,of course.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 5:03 pm

Exhibit A: Operation Bagration.

I was thinking even before that, Dover.

Many of the accounts I have read of various ‘fire brigade’ units of the German Army, such as Otto Cärius’ Tigers in the Mud, indicate that from mid-1942 onwards, much of the Wehrmacht’s operations revolved around cauldron and counter-cauldron ops. With the ratio skewing ever-harder towards the latter as the strategic situation changed to favour the Russians.

The big movements seemed to be the initial advances in 1941 and early 42, then the Russian tidal waves towards Silesia, Pomerania, Romania and Hungary in late 1944 to early 45.

Real Deal
Real Deal
March 18, 2022 5:06 pm

Stoushes not slouches. Sheesh. And I think it was Harken Now. What a drip.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 5:08 pm

Carlton finally finds a winning coach and he gets Covid. LOL. I shouldn’t laugh but how can you not?

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
March 18, 2022 5:10 pm

Winston Smith says:
March 18, 2022 at 3:50 pm
Cassie of Sydney:
Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong has admitted she raised Kimberley Kitching’s lack of children during a meeting in 2019.
Like many of the ‘same sex attracted’ I have met over the years, the sheer viciousness of the attacks is routine behaviour. It is not abnormal in those circles.

You are right there. The most indicative one I heard, in mixing with that mob, was the gay’s word for normal women: breeders.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 5:11 pm

The use of the term cauldron by Russian reports makes a lot more sense now

I believe the Krauts first coined the phrase.
Vlad’s forces will need to get a wriggle on if they want to re-enact the Cherkassy cauldron battle.

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 5:13 pm

OK – a confession: I cannot abide hypocrites, liars, narcissists, exponents of attention-deficit syndrome and victims of their own stupidity who cry ‘foul’ at every given opportunity.

The end.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 5:16 pm

Never explain. Never complain.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 5:16 pm

In her statement, Senator Wong said she “deeply regrets” the comment and said she had apologised to Senator Kitching when the remarks were first reported.

“After these matters were publicly reported, more than two years ago, Senator Wong discussed the matter with Senator Kitching and apologised,” the statement read.

I asked earlier, is there any independent (ie, not from other members of the Liars, particularly the other “mean girrlz”) confirmation of this claim, or do we have to take Benny Wong’s word for it?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 5:17 pm

They got quite good at it in the mid-40s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_(military)
Soviet military doctrine
Soviet military doctrine distinguishes several sizes of encirclement:

Cauldron or kettle (Russian: ?????, romanized: kotyol or kotyel): a very large, strategic-level concentration of trapped enemy forces
Sack (Russian: ?????, romanized: meshok): an operational-level trapped enemy force
Nest (Russian: ??????, romanized: gnezdo): a tactical-level trapped enemy force
The significance of these terms are reflected by the conception of what can be expected in combat in encirclement operations. A cauldron is expected to be “boiling” with combat activity, the large enemy forces still quite able to offer “hot” resistance in the initial stages of encirclement, and so are to be contained, but not engaged directly. A sack in Soviet experience was often created as a result of operational breakthroughs, and was sometimes as unexpected for the Soviet command as for the enemy. This encirclement, sometimes of an entity of unknown size, tended to move for some time after the initial encirclement due to inherently dynamic nature of operational warfare. By contrast a nest was a reference to a tactical, well-defined and contained encirclement of enemy troops that was seen as a fragile construct of enemy troops unsupported by its parent formation (the use of the word nest is similar to the more familiar English expression machine gun nest).

If its a cauldron then they are expecting a lot of activity.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 5:17 pm

I’m still very grateful that Dover has this place.

me too- this my main source of news

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 5:17 pm

Delta, in similar vein, I read the Libs are preferencing Greens as well. Time to give the three parties the flick.

Here’s the problem. Voting above the line is the easy escape and given the majority of voters are below the low-info scale when it comes to politics, we are rooted.

Delta A
Delta A
March 18, 2022 5:19 pm

in similar vein, I read the Libs are preferencing Greens as well

Bereft of suitable options, I ‘phoned an independent* running for the first time in my electorate. She was happy to talk (for more than 30 mins) and answered all my questions. Environmentally conscious, but certainly not an activist, which is as much as we can hope for these days. Anti lockdowns, anti government nannying – although some of my comments might have nudged her in that direction.

The emphasis of her campaign is on local community projects, a good move because, being an ultra safe Lib seat, we are often overlooked by SA govt. No LDP or UAP (I think) so she won my vote
at the early polling booth yesterday.

LDP for the Senate.

*Granddaughter has a personal mean-girls feud with the daughter of this candidate. Her vote might be influenced solely by that. 🙂

Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 5:20 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:17 pm
They got quite good at it in the mid-40s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_(military)
Soviet military doctrine
Soviet military doctrine distinguishes several sizes of encirclement:

Cauldron or kettle (Russian: ?????, romanized: kotyol or kotyel): a very large, strategic-level concentration of trapped enemy forces
Sack (Russian: ?????, romanized: meshok): an operational-level trapped enemy force
Nest (Russian: ??????, romanized: gnezdo): a tactical-level trapped enemy force
The significance of these terms are reflected by the conception of what can be expected in combat in encirclement operations. A cauldron is expected to be “boiling” with combat activity, the large enemy forces still quite able to offer “hot” resistance in the initial stages of encirclement, and so are to be contained, but not engaged directly. A sack in Soviet experience was often created as a result of operational breakthroughs, and was sometimes as unexpected for the Soviet command as for the enemy. This encirclement, sometimes of an entity of unknown size, tended to move for some time after the initial encirclement due to inherently dynamic nature of operational warfare. By contrast a nest was a reference to a tactical, well-defined and contained encirclement of enemy troops that was seen as a fragile construct of enemy troops unsupported by its parent formation (the use of the word nest is similar to the more familiar English expression machine gun nest).

If its a cauldron then they are expecting a lot of activity.

A lot of activity might be the way to put it, given the estimates I’ve seen of how much of the Ukrainian forces are trapped. Whatever the actual number may be, it does appear the majority of the best trained and equipped are stuffed.

jupes
jupes
March 18, 2022 5:20 pm

Now this is interesting. Luke Beveridge is coach of the Western Bulldogs who lost the grand final rematch on Wednesday night. After the game he lost his cool and abused Tom Morris – a reporter for Fox – because Morris had reported (correctly) some selection news from the Bulldogs before it was officially released. Beveridge then flounced from the press conference. Of course he had to apologise the next day.

But that’s not the interesting bit. Last night two audio recordings of Morris were released to the interwebs. On one he was telling his mate that his female co-host was off-limits because she’s a lezzo, and in the other he is telling some blokes he’s not “Asian, black a woman or gay so don’t treat me like shit”. Then he calls someone a cunt.

Morris was a young thruster at Fox Footy, he even had a regular gig on On the Couch. Not any more. He has been ‘stood down’. I don’t believe we’ll see him again unless he goes through a hugely humiliating public apology and mandatory re-education. A sad sign of the times.

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 5:23 pm

miltonfsays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:17 pm
I’m still very grateful that Dover has this place.

me too- this my main source of news

May I replace the word “news” with two alternatives. Those being facts and truth.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 5:25 pm

1st

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 5:25 pm

lotocotisays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:11 pm
The use of the term cauldron by Russian reports makes a lot more sense now

I believe the Krauts first coined the phrase.

Something like “Kesselschlacht”? Kettle Battle?

Real Deal
Real Deal
March 18, 2022 5:25 pm

I wonder what Penny Wong’s apology was like? Was it “it was the wrong thing to say and I apologise unreservedly”.

Or was it an expression of regret or an “if anyone was offended” type of non-apology. I guess we will have to speculate on the character of Senator Wong.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 5:27 pm

Grey Ranga:

Blogging is not for one prone to fainting fits.

My personal belief is:
“Don’t hint, don’t ‘suggest’, don’t leave magazines around open at the present you want. Don’t sulk for weeks on end, just bloody well tell me what you want or what is annoying you. Otherwise I’ll just assume nothing is wrong apart from the CWA girls mucked up your sponge cake recipe – again.”
Like wise, Dover Beach, just tell me if I’m crossing the boundaries.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 5:28 pm

Grey Ranga:

Cooked Salmon Teriyaki with 6 side dishes the other night. Yum, ate so much couldn’t eat breakfast next day.

Guts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 5:31 pm

Calli.

This chaps available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTwMcr2srk

Frank
Frank
March 18, 2022 5:32 pm

The Wong woman’s apology. The consulting psychologist and media specialists must have convinced her to try and ape the traits of remorse and empathy. Not buying it from a bloodless lawyer.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 5:32 pm

On the subject of cauldrons, the Old German Army (early 1800s t0 1945) had a fascination with the Battle of Cannae during the Punic Wars. It was the ultimate cauldron battle, completely destroying the roman force.

They forgot that the battle against Hannibal went on for years after Cannae, and ended with Hannibal’s complete defeat.

Runnybum
Runnybum
March 18, 2022 5:32 pm

[Not helpful]

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 5:38 pm

Zachary Rolfe ‘deliberately assaulted’ Aboriginal man, then lied.

Amos Aikman
NORTHERN CORRESPONDENT
@amosaikman
1:26PM March 18, 2022

The jury in Zachary Rolfe’s murder trial was not told that in the lead up to Kumanjayi Walker’s death, the young Northern Territory policeman was involved in four other incidents of allegedly excessive use of force against Aboriginal arrest targets.

The twelve men and women who acquitted Constable Rolfe of murder were also not shown text messages in which he described Alice Springs as a “shithole” and “like the Wild West” with “f**k all rules in the job”.

Justice John Burns on Friday lifted all suppression orders relating to Constable Rolfe’s five-week NT Supreme Court trial. Defence lawyer David Edwardson QC called for prohibitions on publishing the so-called “tendency” evidence to remain to protect Constable Rolfe’s reputation. But Justice Burns said transparency was more important.

The decision clears the way for the public to learn the full scope of the argument crown prosecutors wanted to put to the jury. Prosecutor Philip Strickland SC wanted to argue Constable Rolfe displayed a pattern of behaviour in which he acted carelessly, allegedly used excessive force and then provided false statements to justify what he had done.

In the most dramatic example, Constable Rolfe allegedly grabbed an Aboriginal suspect by the scruff of the neck, handcuffed him, hit him and “slung” his head against the ground, leaving him unconscious in a pool of blood for several minutes.

The court heard that afterwards, a female detective allegedly scratched Constable Rolfe’s face to give him a justification for what he had done. That evidence was supported by a statement from one of Rolfe’s former girlfriends, also a police officer.

A magistrate who considered the charges against the Aboriginal suspect, Malcolm Ryder, found him not guilty but concluded Constable Rolfe had deliberately assaulted Mr Ryder and then lied in evidence about what happened.

Mr Edwardson told the NT Supreme Court none of the alleged incidents of excessive use of force led to disciplinary proceedings. He said evidence was simply a set of accusations prosecutors wanted to put but that was deemed inadmissable at trial.

The court heard three of the alleged incidents happened within eight months of Kumanjayi Walker’s shooting death in the outback community of Yuendumu and the fourth within two years. All of the incidents were captured on body-worn video.

Good luck with recruiting for Territory police. Perhaps the tribal elders should be allowed to keep order in the communities, using tribal punishment. Being left in the bush with both legs broken, for having sex with someone from the wrong totem is just so 21st century…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 18, 2022 5:38 pm

Salmon and Pinot Noir. That is my dinner tonight.

Kooyong 2020 Pinot Noir from Mornington Peninsula. Red berry character rather than the plum that you often get with Tasmanian pinots. Softer lingering tannins rather than those ones that explode in your mouth. Cooled slightly in the refrigerator because Sydney ambient temperatures, even in cupboards, are too warm. I don’t have a Pinot decanter so I will pour some in a glass to increase the surface area in the bottle and give it maybe 20 min to breath (while drinking the glass a bit sooner).

The salmon comes from the ocean. Somewhere.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 5:39 pm

Bluety

I’ll try to put some thoughts on defending Australia down later this evening.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 5:40 pm

JMHsays:
March 18, 2022 at 4:14 pm
Top post, GR and I second the “Thankyou Dover” comment.

Suck up!

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 5:41 pm

Bluey, not Bluety!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 5:41 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:32 pm

You look at the awful numbers the poor Russkies lost in the early parts of the war (and a few in the middle) and wonder how they kept going.
A million men straight off the bat with all their gear.
Incredible levels of suffering, and most were deliberately shot/starved deliberately after capture.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-treatment-of-soviet-pows-starvation-disease-and-shootings-june-1941january-1942
By February 1942, 2,000,000 of the 3,300,000 Soviet soldiers in German custody up to that point had died from starvation, exposure, disease, or shooting.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 5:42 pm

Kooyong 2020 Pinot Noir from Mornington Peninsula

That is a fantastic drop.
Mornington Peninsula has the best young wines in the world at the moment.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 5:45 pm

Mr Edwardson told the NT Supreme Court none of the alleged incidents of excessive use of force led to disciplinary proceedings. He said evidence was simply a set of accusations prosecutors wanted to put but that was deemed inadmissable at trial.

So by not pursuing disciplinary action the NT police chose to condone his actions??

Are they really so retarded as to think this is a clever avenue to go down?

Geez we have some seriously low rent mongs bubbling to the top of the public service.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 5:45 pm

‘Kessel’ is german for cauldron, so kesselschlacht means ‘cauldron battle.’

I remember reading translated extracts from a 1943 doctrine manual the Heer had developed on the subject of breaking out of them.

A lot of emphasis was placed on personal initiative, flexibility and mobility- You couldn’t afford to straggle, as the Russian numbers were such that they could easily plug any hole in their encirclements if given enough time, and bog down and destroy any breakouts behind it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 5:46 pm

Salmon and Pinot Noir

Did a work trip to NZ in the 90s with my boss. That about sums up the trip.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 5:46 pm

Lara Logan carpet bombing.

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 5:46 pm

While I’m on a roll, I would like to thank those posters (and you know who you are) for the ongoing analysis, research and logical discussion re. the Ukraine/Russia war.

Struth
March 18, 2022 5:47 pm

Testing

Delta A
Delta A
March 18, 2022 5:47 pm

May I replace the word “news” with two alternatives. Those being facts and truth.

Growing up with 4 bc and later, the ABC, I trusted news broadcasters and journalists implicitly. Just as I trusted politicians to keep their word and act in our best interest.

Gough Whitlam was my first wake-up call, although I tended to count him as an aberration. But the bias and misrepresentations became more frequent until, eventually, I had to admit that they are all liars, pushing their own barrows.

You’re right, JMH. The Cat champions facts and truth, albeit spiced with prejudices, fibs and crap. It’s up to each individual Cat to decide which is which.

And that’s the fun of it!

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 5:48 pm

I remember the concept was well practised for the war against NATO, and then the Russians introduced the Operational Maneuver Group which entailed the breaking of the oppositions front lines with the forces of a Strategic Direction, encircling the forces there and allowing an Army sized group to run rampant over the enemy interior lines of communication and supply.
But I’m not sure how it would work with their resupply. Whilst it was a good conceptual theory, in practice it requires a robust logistical tail, and I doubt the Soviets had invested enough for it to be effective.
Mind you, the Soviet tactic of “Always reinforce success” + their logistical assets being Corps controlled would allow them at least a half hearted go at it.

slackster
slackster
March 18, 2022 5:52 pm

Mc Clown asking for trouble now:

“A COVID-19 testing regime that has not been approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration will be used to collect data in Western Australia amid fears the virus is spreading undetected in the community.

From Saturday, a team of 15 researchers will begin doorknocking at random households across the metropolitan area, requesting people take a COVID-19 test, but participation is voluntary.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/western-australia-trials-non-tga-approved-covid-19-testing-c-6111338

About 875 people, a mix of adults, teens and children, will be asked to take part in the study over multiple weekends.”

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 5:56 pm

Delta Asays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:19 pm

The emphasis of her campaign is on local community projects, a good move because, being an ultra safe Lib seat, we are often overlooked by SA govt. No LDP or UAP (I think) so she won my vote
at the early polling booth yesterday.

So sick of bread and circus stuff. How about stripping away the layers of autocracy that’s will strangle us. Or at least a “No more regulations” party.

cohenite
March 18, 2022 5:58 pm

The twelve men and women who acquitted Constable Rolfe of murder were also not shown text messages in which he described Alice Springs as a “shithole” and “like the Wild West” with “f**k all rules in the job”.

Sounds like understatement to me.

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 5:58 pm

You’re right, JMH. The Cat champions facts and truth, albeit spiced with prejudices, fibs and crap. It’s up to each individual Cat to decide which is which.

And that’s the fun of it!

Delta, when you can no longer put faith in the MSM – then you seek alternatives. I find stuff posted here is, generally, pretty well researched. On that note, I will NEVER trust MSM to be truthful ever again as long as I live.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 5:58 pm

JMH

You were singing the praises for AdamD’s site and how I was a brute for asking him to post a resume about himself. Now you’re here and singing the praises for this site. Can I make a casual remark about how sluttish you are? What happened?

Struth
March 18, 2022 6:00 pm

Yes you certainly have been deleting my comments Dover, and you’ve every right to.
Seriously, I mean that.
I believe in private ownership and all that.
These times call for some hard conversations and your blog obviously isn’t the place for that.
Good luck to you.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 6:00 pm

Calli:
Damn you with your pictures of mean old bats!
You manage to catch me every damn time!

Dover – Please ban Calli.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 18, 2022 6:01 pm

That is a fantastic drop.

I tried the Massale from the same vineyard. Not as much depth or polish as the Kooyong or the Haven, lighter, but very nicely balanced and eminently drinkable. I have had wine twice the price nowhere near as good.

It seems the Kooyong people approach their second rank wines with the same attention they give the first.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 6:05 pm

Dover – Please ban Calli

2nd

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 6:06 pm

Boambee John:

Something like “Kesselschlacht”? Kettle Battle?

Correct – Kessel is the German term, the Soviets merely qualified it into strategic doctrine.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 6:13 pm

These times call for some hard conversations and your blog obviously isn’t the place for that.

Flounce?

Runnybum
Runnybum
March 18, 2022 6:16 pm

Oh no, a train drivers strike!

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 6:19 pm

Dover – use as required
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbebjUYItKw

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 6:20 pm

Oh no, a train drivers strike!

More along the lines of one anklebiter has managed to scam a fresh set of teeth out of someone and sticky-tape his jaw back together long enough for one last try…

areff
areff
March 18, 2022 6:20 pm

Morris was a young thruster at Fox Footy, he even had a regular gig on On the Couch. Not any more. He has been ‘stood down’.

Actually, he’s now been fired. Apparently, according to Jesse Hogan, a reporter I respect, Morris is a genuine brewed-in-the-bowel shit of the first order, but I still feel sorry for him. Workwise he’ll only get another job overseas, which is one thing. But the comments he made, especially the crack that his sapphic colleague has “her licker licence”, were made in private. Is this what it’s come to, that anything said at any any time to anyone about anything can end a career in an instant. Apparently so, and we’re all the worse off for that.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 6:20 pm

I see Lvov airport copped a pasting.
What does Brandon do if one of his ammo flights gets caught on the deck?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 6:22 pm

Is this what it’s come to, that anything said at any any time to anyone about anything can end a career in an instant.

Welcome to East Germany.

jupes
jupes
March 18, 2022 6:24 pm

Morris was a young thruster at Fox Footy, he even had a regular gig on On the Couch. Not any more. He has been ‘stood down’

Now sacked. 2022, what an utterly embarrassing time to be alive.

Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 6:25 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:41 pm
Boambee Johnsays:
March 18, 2022 at 5:32 pm

You look at the awful numbers the poor Russkies lost in the early parts of the war (and a few in the middle) and wonder how they kept going.
A million men straight off the bat with all their gear.
Incredible levels of suffering, and most were deliberately shot/starved deliberately after capture.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-treatment-of-soviet-pows-starvation-disease-and-shootings-june-1941january-1942
By February 1942, 2,000,000 of the 3,300,000 Soviet soldiers in German custody up to that point had died from starvation, exposure, disease, or shooting.

I remember reading about the allied soldiers involved in the repatriation of Russian POWs at the end of the war. The POWs going back would sometimes beg, but mostly were fatalistic.
Everyone knew they were just going to be marched out of sight and shot.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 6:26 pm

kd wrong’s spin merchants are probably doing 10,000 rpm at the moment. That is why they are paid the big bucks.

Going by that ABC photo of Wong, Kitching, Gallagher and some other hag,
Kitching was obviously dying.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/kimberley-kitching-disclosed-allegations-senate-labor-colleagues-bullied-her-months-before-her-death/ar-AAVb1YL
She’s unrecognisable in that pic, lost a massive amount of weight, awful colour.
So, this is a Hit on Wong that has been in the planning for some time.
Will Albanese disavow her?
I’d say he’s gotta, pretty quick, or he’ll be replaced.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 6:28 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith accuser didn‘t tell journalists about war crime in ’gossip’ session, court told

Perry Duffin
Senior Court Reporter
@perryduffin1
NCA NewsWire
32 minutes ago March 18, 2022

One of Ben Roberts-Smith’s chief critics spent hours leaking to journalists about the elite soldier’s personal life, marriage and “f..k-ups” in Afghanistan but a shocking war crime allegation didn’t seem to warrant a mention, a court has heard.

Mr Roberts-Smith is suing Nine newspapers and journalists over a series of articles claiming he bullied soldiers and abused and killed unarmed Afghans.

The Victoria Cross recipient denies every allegation and claims a cadre of jealous soldiers was trying to bring him down by speaking with the media.

Among his most vocal detractors in the SAS is a Warrant Officer Class Two known as Person 7, who spent this week giving evidence in the Federal Court defamation hearing.

Person 7 appeared anonymously on 60 Minutes, in September 2019, where he told Nine journalist Nick McKenzie that Mr Roberts-Smith had been accused of kicking an unarmed Afghan down a cliff. The Afghan, named as Ali Jan in Nine’s coverage, was allegedly executed by the SAS after his head was split open on a rock in the fall.

Mr Roberts-Smith denies those claims, saying he shot and killed a Taliban spotter – but no handcuffed farmer.

Person 7 this week told the court a junior soldier witnessed the alleged war crime in the village of Darwan in 2012 and reported it before Person 7 took it higher.

The senior SAS soldier on Friday was taken through notes made during meetings he had with Nine journalist Chris Masters in 2015 and 2016.

According to the notes, Person 7 gave examples of Mr Roberts-Smith bullying junior soldiers and making errors while planning and carrying out missions in Afghanistan.

Mr Roberts-Smith’s wife and father were also mentioned in what Person 7 conceded was “petty, childish gossip”.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 6:29 pm

The damage the O’Biden/Harris is doing to the West is catastrophic – and it’s deliberate.

Zipster
Zipster
March 18, 2022 6:30 pm

A lot of activity might be the way to put it, given the estimates I’ve seen of how much of the Ukrainian forces are trapped. Whatever the actual number may be, it does appear the majority of the best trained and equipped are stuffed.

seen several reports that the mariupol cauldron had 14k troops under siege. operative word is had.

Indolent
Indolent
March 18, 2022 6:32 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 6:33 pm

Dickless Ed

So, this is a Hit on Wong that has been in the planning for some time.
Will Albanese disavow her?
I’d say he’s gotta, pretty quick, or he’ll be replaced.

The harassment occurred some time ago, a complaint was made. But it does seem a bit drastic that Kitching had to die as part of the plan.

PS, have you re-tuned your spook detector? It was missing badly yesterday, ruining your reputation as the Spook Finder General.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 6:33 pm

It’s a rum state of affairs when a chap suffers impoverishment
trying to avoid an awkward social gaffe by mentioning
a workplace acquaintance prefers Axminster.

Roger
Roger
March 18, 2022 6:34 pm

The damage the O’Biden/Harris is doing to the West is catastrophic – and it’s deliberate.

Welcome to the multipolar new world order.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 6:35 pm

I wonder what Penny Wong’s apology was like? Was it “it was the wrong thing to say and I apologise unreservedly”.

Don’t be a dope, there was no apology.
She’s daring anyone to call her a liar so that she can then claim victimhood.
Not a bad tactic in normal times, but if Albanese is the target, then she’s just collateral damage.

MatrixTransform
March 18, 2022 6:37 pm

I’m going to follow the policy as laid out in the comments page

and that, is very good news

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 6:39 pm

H B Bearsays:
March 18, 2022 at 6:19 pm
Dover – use as required
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbebjUYItKw

Had crew supervisor that said “respect my Authoritaton!!” and everyone laughed .

I did not tell him why.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 6:41 pm

Is this what it’s come to, that anything said at any any time to anyone about anything can end a career in an instant.

Welcome to East Germany.

Rather apt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8vDQaAYaQg

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 6:42 pm

Any comments on this?
It’s a lot too technical for me, but doesn’t look real flash.

Sure enough, last week’s unprececented LME margin squeeze, where a 250% surge overnight in nickel prices nearly bankrupted Chinese tycoon Xiang Guangda whose Tsingshan Holding Group, the largest stainless steel maker, held a massive 150,000 tons nickel short and which resulted in $8 billion margin call which however even the collecting counterparties (one of which was JPMorgan) did not want to collect on knowing they would default Tsingshan, collect nothing and potentially push the LME itself into insolvency.

Roger
Roger
March 18, 2022 6:44 pm

I’ll say this here because I’ve nowhere else to say it.

As someone with more than a passing interest in US history, partly but not wholly because a line of my family can be traced from my paternal grandfather directly to 17th C. settlers in Maryland & Virginia…

And an appreciation for what could be called the American experiment with democracy, which is quite unlike any other…

And as someone who grew up in Brisbane aware of the impact on the city and its people of the passing through of hundreds of thousands of American servicemen, the historical remnants of which could still be seen (and can be to this day)…

And as an Australian grateful for what the Americans did in the Pacific theatre of war; particularly Chester Nimitz, whose feat at Midway may not match that of Nelson at Trafalgar but is of similar historical significance, and not only for the US but perhaps even more to us, because it turned the tide of the war and put Japan on the back foot, causing the dark clouds of invasion to be dispersed…

I find myself grieving over what the USA has become.

I can only imagine what American patriots are feeling.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 6:44 pm

Looks like Cardiomyopathy from that ABC pic I linked to.
{Not a Medical Professional, I just like to play one on the Internet}
So, she was obviously dying for a while and it was no shock to anybody who worked with Kimberly.
So the entire Sharri Markson thing is a Political Hit Job on Wong, and ultimately on Albanese.
What’s Labor’s internal Polling been telling them?
The same bullshit The Australian keeps on telling us every Tuesday?
Probably not.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 6:50 pm

I find myself grieving over what the USA has become.

Agree and that filthy transvestite abomination, the ‘admiral’, symbolizes the complete trashing of the place. Quite deliberate too. Remember the bLIAR filth’s apparatchik who said ‘rub the right’s nose in diversity’. I don’t really grieve anymore, I despise the place but I feel deeply sorry for regular Americans.

cohenite
March 18, 2022 6:52 pm

Tucker today featured what biden’s border policies are doing to southern US cities, this time Houston, which now has the leading homicide rate in the US, ahead of demorat hell holes like chicago and detroit. The reason, cartel members are crossing with their heavy automatic weapons and letting rip.

I’m running out of creative ways to punish biden so I’ll refer to the tried and tested methods like ants nests and slow fires.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 6:52 pm

Nimitz?
This guy [Frank Jack Fletcher] was the hero of the Coral Sea & Midway:
https://www.amazon.com.au/Black-Shoe-Carrier-Admiral-Guadalcanal-ebook/dp/B00BHOYD3S

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 18, 2022 6:55 pm

About 6 minutes in is the old “history not repeating, but rhyming” vibe to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha1jM9HAs6c

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 6:55 pm

I can only imagine what American patriots are feeling.

The ones I know Roger feel the same but still hopfull.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 6:55 pm

Another reason I despise the US now is the treatment of Trump and his supporters and yet the dirty old woman from Baltimore prospers.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 6:57 pm

Note too that the old thief is following the same script as bLIAR- open borders and wars.

Cassie of Sydney
March 18, 2022 6:57 pm

“Rogersays:
March 18, 2022 at 6:44 pm”

Great post Roger and you wrote for many of us.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 7:02 pm

It’s not an exaggeration to say in 2020-2021 there was a Bolshevik putsch in the US.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 18, 2022 7:05 pm

Interesting background and context to Biden’s forthcoming phone call with Xi:

Ukraine war: China risks isolation if it doesn’t distance itself from Russia, says Shanghai academic

The paper:
Possible Outcomes of the Russo-Ukrainian War and China’s Choice

Synopsis:
1) Putin has badly miscalculated a blitzkreig victory over Ukraine and now, irrespective of the military outcome, faces a world of pain as an international pariah.

2) China has just about lost credibility walking both sides of the street.

3) China would earn brownie points joining the active push against Russia – or shitto stamps for actively supporting Putin.

[Note: The Shanghai academic, Hu Wei, appears to have vanished from the Public Policy Research Center website.]

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 7:09 pm

Beijing sacked half the big wigs in Shenzhen today.
Imagine that, your parents were party members, you’ve been a party member all your life.
Then boom, because Beijing doesn’t like the way you handled COVID you & your family have been unpersoned from the third richest gravy train in China.
Multi generational demotion.

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