Open Thread – Weekend 19 Mar 2022


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CMD Longtime Lurker
CMD Longtime Lurker
March 22, 2022 4:36 am

joint’s lost the plot
it has become absurd

A valid fear. Introspection seems to have been eschewed.
Today was nothing but self-validation of the mocking of each other.

My previous posted comment was intended to be a broad brush-stroke. The most vocal seem to have instead interpreted it as striving to be an exhaustive detailing of the ailments of this page and the shortcomings of each commentator, and pointed out their perceived gaps in the “report”, in similar manner as the recounting today of President Carter’s preoccupation with minutiae whilst simultaneously avoiding the macro.

There certainly was no intention to imply Struth has not been the author of his own miring. However the mocking of him has become repetitive and in some cases infantile, continuing long past the point where it has any value.

Regards having a Monty or Numbers, to play the role of foil. That does not advance discussion or encourage knowledge sharing.
That style of surrounding and browbeating an alternative thinker is unbecoming of adults and should remain on ABC TV’s Q&A program.

Numbers, to use his popular nickname, made unreadable every thread he occupied. To quote one of today’s commentators, Numbers was boring. It was the same worn out arguments and responses, for thread after thread.
It was near impossible to lurk once he arrived in a thread. Any sane reader clicked over to another website, or perhaps another thread.
Thankfully the old Catallaxy had many side threads which were eminently readable.
That is not yet quite the case with new Catallaxy.

Departures over the past few weeks aside, there have been quite some thoughtful, interesting commentators who have disappeared. No one commentator is key to the site’s success. Everybody here is dispensable.
Sometimes culling is painful, though necessary.

The fiery commentator JC’s propensity to use randomly assigned nicknames is not endearing or entertaining, it is in fact quite confusing, serving only to add a layer of incomprehension to his comments. On a site comprised of pseudonyms there is no leeway for a secret and random second language, known only to one person.

His claims of never initiating a stoush seem a very good tongue-in-cheek display. Until the point where it become clear to even the most casual of observers that he believes it, and that his obsessive pursuit of those to whom he arbitrarily takes a dislike is not an act, instead being deadly serious.
The nature of his propensity to harbour a multi-day obsession with almost any other commentator, over a random and unpredictable minor point, would in real life be chilling. Nor should it be taken lightly on this page.
Loud proclamations are always made that someone is being pursued because they are “wrong”, when usually this is not the case.
It is the domain of a severe narcissist to obtusely believe they are always right whilst others are always wrong.

The obsession this person has with selected other commentators can only be described as insane.

Normal people may not be interested in pushing through this type of headwind, to comment on what seems to be turning into an “insiders only” blog atmosphere.

There is every likelihood such conduct has been turning off prospective commentators, driving away sensible commentators, and causing readers to drift away.

Catallaxy is unique. It must not be allowed to wither so.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 4:48 am
srr
srr
March 22, 2022 5:02 am

rosie says:
March 22, 2022 at 4:55 am
Posobiec on American volunteers going to Kiev, scroll down for photos of Gypsy women getting the Ukrainian treatment.

Those not on Twitter can’t scroll down, they get blocked.

You have to link to what you want people to see.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 5:07 am

43m ·
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UKRAINE

Remember What You’re Fighting For –

https://gab.com/Python14/posts/107995681651462831

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 5:18 am

Apparently, the elite Chechen troops, after heavy losses, quietly left Ukraine.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 5:18 am

Ukraine Adopts WEF Proposals

Posted Mar 17, 2022 by Martin Armstrong

Zelensky has just signed into law the first steps of Schwab’s Great Reset. He announced he is introducing a Social Credit Application combining Universal Basic Income (UBI), a Digital Identity & a Vaccine Passport all within their Diia app. He also says that because so much money is coming into Ukraine as he has become an international celebrity, he has legalized cryptocurrencies in Ukraine. He will allow foreign and Ukrainian cryptocurrencies exchanges to operate legally, according to the country’s Ministry of Digital Transformation.

[Crypto Announcement img]

So far, he has taken in over $63 million in cryptocurrency donations.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-adopts-wef-proposals/
________________________________________

Funny how the whole, ‘Crypto is the Dark Money of the Dark Web where there is Nothing you Can’t Buy’, has been memory holed just in time to sell crypto to every average Joe & Jane & Mum & Dad when their ‘support’ for the WEF’s whole new system of things also needs to be ‘bought’.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 5:21 am

Funnily enough I don’t care if you can see it or not.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 5:31 am

Neocon Plot to Overthrow Putin & Xi
Posted Mar 21, 2022 by Martin Armstrong

[img of Soros beating the anti-Xi & anti-Putin war drums; link below]

This war has really nothing to do with Ukraine for this country has been used as cannon fodder to overthrow Putin – the second target in this New World Order. The first was the removal of Trump and the last will be the removal of Xi Jinping. This is a major effort to cause regime change in Russia. The sanction has been so outrageous that they are indeed an act of outright war. The strategy to remove all three has been in play and you can tell the very same tactics are used. They DEMONIZE the leader in order to defeat him and to cause people to hate him.

In the case of Putin, they have been doing that in the United States when Hillary, a Neocon herself, manufactured the entire Russia Conspiracy that Putin interfered in the 2016 election. It was Hillary who allowed the bankers to intervene in the Russian 2000 election which backfired and Yeltsin turned to Putin once he discovered the plot.

Video Player [Lindsey Graham link below]
01:58

Lindsey Graham is also a Neocon who has outright called for Russians to assassinate Putin. All we are getting now is propaganda pushing the agenda of regime change in Russia. The story being put out by Ukrainian Intelligence is that a group of Russian elites are allegedly now conspiring to overthrow Putin and “restore economic ties” with the West. They are posting this on Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. This is clearly propaganda for if there was truly a plot, they would not be warning Putin. Instead, they are creating an imaginary plot in hope for forming one and to create discord in the politics of Russia. It is a ploy as old as history.

Facebook has changed its guidelines to allow for the posting of violence against Russia and calling for the death of Putin. Zuckerberg is also one of these Young Global Leaders of the WEF. As many are praying, his stock should keep going down for the plots that have been hatched in Facebook.

The Ukrainians are even naming Alexander Bortnikov, the Russian Director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin’s inner circle, as a successor to the president. They are seeking the conquest of Russia but forcing the people to rise up and overthrow their government because of the sanctions. Biden even threatened China according to the White House stating that serious “implications and consequences” will follow if Beijing decides to give material aid to Russia to support its war in Ukraine. The White House claimed that Biden laid out for Mr. Xi the punishments the United States will inflict upon China and it too would pay a similarly heavy price if it supported Putin.

“He made clear what the implications and consequences would be if China provides material support to Russia as it conducts brutal attacks against Ukrainian cities and civilians,” Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Friday afternoon. She declined to say how Mr. Xi responded or give details on the costs the United States has threatened to impose on Beijing, as reported in the New York Times.

China released the transcript of the phone call between Biden and Xi on Chinese state media. Xi expressed opposition to the broad sanctions the United States, European and Asian nations have imposed on Russia, warning they could trigger crises in the global economy. In this score, he is absolutely right. These very same tactics will be turned on China after they are finished with regime change in Russia. Xi referenced a Chinese saying, “Let he who tied the bell on the tiger take it off,” which is an idiom that the responsibility for solving a problem should fall on the person who created it. The transcript does not indicate that Xi would play a role in ending the war.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “turning point for the world,” arguing that a victory for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s forces would herald “a new age of intimidation.”

We are looking at the beginning of World War III. In order to pull off this Great Reset, they needed to remove Trump, Putin, and Xi in hopes of then subordinating both China and Russia to the New World Order with the United Nations in control.

[more links] https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/neocon-plot-to-overthrow-putin-xi/

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 5:37 am
Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 5:38 am

Those not on Twitter can’t scroll down, they get blocked.

I’m not on twitter, but had no problem scrolling down to the item, although I think it’s a beat up.
Believe it not gypsies are notorious for appropriating property not belonging to them, to put it mildly, so they are treated just like other looters, nothing to do with ethnicity.

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 5:41 am

Wife of ex Ukrainian MP caught at the Hungarian border with 28 Mil $US and 1.3 Mil Euro.
No corruption in the Ukraine?

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 5:42 am

Link to the above.

Helen
Helen
March 22, 2022 6:03 am

Yes Top Ender, my bad I thought spearman was killed.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 6:03 am

KHARKIV
Mariupol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZK7o-pyw8&t=19s

Streamed live 3 hours ago
Gonzalo Lira
111K subscribers

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 6:14 am

Twitter long ago started blocking people not on Twitter from seeing more than a couple or few Tweets from a link.

This is to keep brainwashing Twits and keeping other’s views from asking the questions that snap Twits out of the propaganda they’re fed.

So this doesn’t surprise me, not from rosie/notafan who long ago gave up her ever so pious Christian character and settled into her natural, mean spirited self –

srr says:
March 22, 2022 at 5:02 am

rosie says:
March 22, 2022 at 4:55 am
Posobiec on American volunteers going to Kiev, scroll down for photos of Gypsy women getting the Ukrainian treatment.

Those not on Twitter can’t scroll down, they get blocked.

You have to link to what you want people to see.

rosie says:
March 22, 2022 at 5:21 am

Funnily enough I don’t care if you can see it or not.

So then Gabor, would you please post the link for those of us who Twitter does block?

Gabor says:
March 22, 2022 at 5:38 am

Those not on Twitter can’t scroll down, they get blocked.

I’m not on twitter, but had no problem scrolling down to the item, although I think it’s a beat up.
Believe it not gypsies are notorious for appropriating property not belonging to them, to put it mildly, so they are treated just like other looters, nothing to do with ethnicity.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 6:14 am

Thread 4:33 pm · 21 Mar 2022

Gonzalo Lira @realGonzaloLira
IMPORTANT

A thread about civilians in Mariupol.

I just got word from a Ukrainian acquaintance.

Her parents and aunt and uncle were living in Mariupol (she was raised there but moved away for university).
1/4

She tells me that her family were shot at by Ukrainian Armed Forces on multiple occasions, which prevented them from leaving the city. She did not explain the circumstances of them being fired upon, but said that it had been more than once.
2/4

However, they said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were losing, and had finally left their residential area, allowing them to flee to the Russians.

The Russians fed them, and put them on transportation to Rostov (she didn’t say what sort of transportation).
3/4

They said the biggest deal was that the Russians gave them a lot of food, because they had been starving during the siege.

This is actual testimony from a person whom I’ve known for some time, so I know that it’s not propaganda or nonsense—this is as real as it gets.
4/4

rickw
rickw
March 22, 2022 6:17 am

Nadal loses match due to chest pain and breathing difficulties. At least he didn’t go full Warnie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_GZQjLE2M

rickw
rickw
March 22, 2022 6:24 am

When your crisis actors have an 8 pack a day habit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HthiJ_WFl_A

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 6:24 am

ssr said

would you please post the link for those of us who Twitter does block?

How would I know that?
But now that you mention it, you were booted off twitter as I recall, so that maybe the reason.
Try a VPN?

rickw
rickw
March 22, 2022 6:26 am

When the officials of Mongland design a womens group logo you know it won’t end well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDxFOJJzzcI

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 6:27 am

Gabor says:
March 22, 2022 at 6:24 am

ssr said

would you please post the link for those of us who Twitter does block?

How would I know that?
But now that you mention it, you were booted off twitter as I recall, so that maybe the reason.
Try a VPN?

So sorry, I misunderstood, here is the link I used, I assume it’s the same as what was posted.

Apologies, ssr.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 22, 2022 6:35 am

With reference JC’s comment last night “Why come clean on the Hunter Biden laptop now”.
Who knows, but maybe it’s got something to do with Hunters tax evasion case.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 22, 2022 6:48 am

If Zlochevsky is still alive, he’d be protected by an army of CIA contractors.
A big if.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 22, 2022 6:52 am

No matter what Biden says, he can not undo the time line around the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor.

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1505566110044762113?s=20&t=-RayH9PvGo2yG_h0PsxgQA

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 6:58 am

Royal?Peasant @Shazlandia
1d
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Homeschool

Dept. of Corrections – V – Dept. of Education
https://gab.com/Shazlandia/posts/107989564032617283

And people wonder why I call, “Child Care Centres”, Baby Gaols.

Yet another new one is popping up in my neighbourhood.
Driving by my son says, ‘It looks like a gaol.’
‘Close, it’s another Baby Gaol. A two story, concrete & glass baby gaol.’

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 6:59 am

Warning: Incoming rant:

Thanks to the watchers and sharers on Catallaxy I saw/heard Lara Logan’s interview on Rumble about what was happening on the ground in the Russia/Ukraine contretemps garnished with a little history – what a gal she is fearless and it was truth bombs all the way.

It all goes back to US interference:

The corruption of the US great societal experiment established by its Founding Fathers with a Constitutional Republic as its crown has been utterly corrupted by small, soulless, immoral, venal, evil and power-hungry men and now women (Victoria Nuland and before her Madeline Albright and after her the head of that covenous(?) threesome Hillary Clinton) the destruction of the great USA is tragic for the people who honour and believe in the values expressed in their Constitution. (They say 200-300 years is the average for a civilisation, where are we now)

The US it is no longer a beacon for the good but has latterly become a dim lantern lighting the way to Hell -it was good while it lasted – it is ever thus –

God made humanity in his image but gave us free will and sadly it is the flawed, ill-disciplined and sinful who use that free will to do evil while the good stand by – of the 7 deadly sins hubristic pride is the worst -some poetry has always stayed with me – W. B Yeats The Second Coming‘s opening stanza is so prophetic of the tumultuous times in which we now live:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre/ The falcon cannot hear the falconer;/Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;/Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,/ The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere/ the ceremony if innocence is drowned/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst/ Are full of passionate intensity/

The whole thing echoes the devastation in Europe written as it was just after the end of the First World War, riven by the Spanish flu (his pregnant wife almost died), the Bolsheviks began their murderous regime, hope was in scarce supply indeed.

While the first stanza of T.S. Elliott’s The Hollow Men so perfectly describes the current corrupt, spineless and weak leadership in the declining, crumbling , irreligious, immoral West which is the reason we are in this spot. Looking at you Wobbleguts and the rest of the tuckers.

We are the hollow men/We are the stuffed men/Leaning together/Headpiece filled
with straw.Alas!/Our dried voices, when/ we whisper together/ Are quiet and meaningless/As wind in dry grass/Or rats’ feet over broken glass/In our dry cellar/
(I can hear the faltering incohernt croaks of those evil corruptocrats Biden and Pelosi)

Rant over/ too much coffee is way too much.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 22, 2022 7:06 am

Watch out Longtime Lurker. For daring to tell some home truths you’ll be called a “flouncer”.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 7:07 am

Gabor says:
March 22, 2022 at 6:27 am
[…]
So sorry, I misunderstood, here is the link I used, I assume it’s the same as what was posted.

Apologies, ssr.

Thanks but that was the same link rosie posted, not what she told us to scroll down to.

And yeah, I don’t know why anyone still uses being banned by Facebook, Twitter & the rest of the Social Media Narrative Controlling platforms is a bad thing.

Some of the very best follows are on that list, the sort of people who can get you banned for sharing their content. People such as Donald J. Trump, 45th President of The United States.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 22, 2022 7:08 am

Thanks Tinta. Was the “multifloriate rose” something to do with sex?

Gabor
Gabor
March 22, 2022 7:11 am

ssr
OK got it not familiar with twitter, never use it and hardly ever follow links to it.
This is the closer link,
hope it works.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 7:15 am

On the Ukrainian gypsies.

Not on Twitter. You can sneak past the “block” if you have patience.

There is talk that they were looters. Maybe. In a war, looters are generally shot on sight. Who the hell knows?

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 7:16 am

Tintarella di Luna says:
March 22, 2022 at 6:59 am
Warning: Incoming rant:

Thanks to the watchers and sharers on Catallaxy I saw/heard Lara Logan’s interview on Rumble […]

Yes it was good to listen to more than some short snippets posted elsewhere and actually see that she personally understands The Big Picture & isn’t simply putting out the latest talking points.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 22, 2022 7:20 am

No matter what Biden says, he can not undo the time line around the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor.

I wonder when the NYT will get around to Biden’s daughter and her lost diary?
Amazing how all this stuff we have discussed is being verified.
As Tinta says: the corruption is breathtaking.

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 7:21 am

“Tintarella di Lunasays:
March 22, 2022 at 6:59 am”

You’ve said it best Tinta. Superb.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 7:32 am

“multifloriate rose”

You mean multifoliate rose? – in my interpretation I never thought about sex but that the multifoliate rose could be about hope and renewal which has so many different aspects

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 7:34 am

Tinta, the moment in November 2020 that the vast election corruption became apparent, I opined that the US had lost all moral authority in world affairs. Two months later, that view was cemented by the Capital protests.

No amount of “revelations” by the media and backpedaling by politicians will change that. It’s like respect – once it’s lost it can never be regained. The house of cards has fallen.

Where to from here?

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 7:35 am

“It all goes back to US interference:”

Yes. And note that not one MSM outlet in Australia* (or anywhere in the West for that matter) has seriously analysed/discussed this critical contributing cause to the Ukraine conflict.

It’s probably been said here before but just imagine for a moment if China, Russia or Iran was using Mexico as a proxy to cause instability on the US’s borders and in the US itself, you don’t think that a US administration would not take measures, including military, to curb this interference?

* The only remotely serious look at what else could have caused the invasion of Ukraine was two weeks ago on Sky when Cory Bernardi dared to mention US interference in Ukraine over the last eight years. Since then, nothing, nada, zip, zilch, zero serious commentary on why Russia invaded. It’s just hysterical commentary such as……..Wussia evil and Putin is the new Hitler (he’s no such thing) and he should be assassinated from the likes of Andrew Blot.

It’s a joke…except none of this is funny.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 7:36 am

I had to look a couple of times at Alexopolous this morning. In the end, the swim goggles gave it away.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 22, 2022 7:43 am

Bramston being upset in the Oz this morning. Looks like Kitching was not going to be pre-selected again:

Penny Wong and Kristina Keneally have repudiated multiple media reports, including my column on this page last Tuesday (“Kitching didn’t deserve to be treated so poorly”, 15/3), that chronicled the systematic isolation and exclusion of Kitching in the Senate.

Are Wong and Keneally implying that these articles have been made up?

Wong told Chris Uhlmann on Nine’s Weekend Today on Sunday that Kitching was not bullied or isolated by her Senate colleagues and, moreover, those saying she was lacked “common decency”.

Keneally, interviewed by Kieran Gilbert on Sky News’ Afternoon Agenda last Tuesday, said that my “assertions” were “not true”.

The journalists who have raised how Kitching felt based on conversations they had with her or with others span the media spectrum and include Andrew Probyn (ABC), Rob Harris (The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age), Samantha Maiden (news.com.au) and Sharri Markson (The Australian/Sky News).

Last Friday Wong, Keneally and Katy Gallagher issued an extraordinary statement saying “the allegations of bullying are untrue” and “other assertions” are also “similarly inaccurate”. The statement says their priority has been concern for Kitching’s family and loved ones, and they have not responded “out of respect for them”.

The problem with this statement, apart from being so coldly calculating, is that Kitching’s closest friends and her parliamentary and party colleagues have been raising how she felt and the stress she was under.

They are in no doubt – absolutely no doubt – that this pressure worsened any underlying health issues she had.

Kitching told me herself about how she was being treated by Labor’s Senate leadership team, as she did other journalists. We know it to be true because we heard it from her.

There has been no pushback from Kitching’s friends, family or colleagues about this reporting.

It only adds to their grief to hear it said that it is not true or now is not the time to mention these matters.

Shorten acknowledged that Kitching was under pressure at the time of her death. He was well aware of the discussions over her preselection.

“I have no doubt that the stress of politics in the machinations in the back rooms had its toll,” he said. “Stress is like invisible coats of paint. It’s got to be having an impact. And she was greatly stressed.”

The day before she died, senior Victorian Labor Right faction leaders held a Zoom meeting to discuss the Senate preselection. All lower house preselections in Victoria have been finalised.

That meeting did not endorse Kitching’s preselection and said the matter would be referred to the national executive, where the Left faction holds a majority.

The Plumbers Union’s Earl Setches was at the meeting. He has spoken about the impact of that meeting on Kitching’s state of mind.

“You’ve lost your job, publicly humiliated going through that whole process,” he said. “Of course, there were other health issues, but Christ it would have been enormous stress and strain on her.”

The most devastating attack on Kitching’s Labor colleagues has come from her friend, Health Workers Union secretary Diana Asmar, in an article for the Herald Sun on Saturday.

Asmar, who was also on that Zoom meeting and well aware of how Kitching was treated by her Senate colleagues, wrote that she was certain “the workplace bullying” had “significantly worsened her health”.

Wong has acknowledged personally denigrating Kitching in front of colleagues when she said during an internal debate on climate change in 2019: “Well, if you had children, you might understand why there is a climate emergency.”

Wong disputes the words but not the substance of what she said. And she did not apologise until it was made public.

Deputy Labor leader Richard Marles, like Wong and Keneally, said it had not been the right time to discuss these matters so soon after Kitching’s death.

But they have declined to say, repeatedly, when the right time is. Is now the right time, given her funeral was held on Monday?

Marles has his own questions to answer, which he has so far ducked and weaved.

Marles is a leading figure in the Victorian Labor Right faction. Kitching reportedly raised how she was treated with Marles at a meeting last year.

How did he respond? Labor leader Anthony Albanese says he was not aware of Kitching feeling bullied and isolated.

The only way forward for Labor is to announce an independent inquiry into how Kitching was treated by her party colleagues.

This will allow her family, friends, staff and colleagues to come forward and report what they know.

Asmar said she was writing to Labor’s national executive about how Kitching was treated by “Labor’s leadership group”.

But this is a leadership test for Albanese. Labor has rightly lashed the Coalition for how it has handled issues of sexual harassment and assault, and bullying, in its ranks.

For Labor to not act decisively when it concerns one of its own is hypocritical. Albanese should initiate an inquiry. Kitching is owed nothing less.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 7:44 am

It’s probably been said here before but just imagine for a moment if China, Russia or Iran was using Mexico as a proxy to cause instability on the US’s borders and in the US itself, you don’t think that a US administration would not take measures, including military, to curb this interference?

Yes I have said as much to family members while explaining a bit of recent history vis a vis the Minsk agreement/the Maidan revolution (the revolution of dignity – ha!) – they know none of it at all sadly, my family’s consumption of MSM is rotting their brains —

Indeed Cassie I use exactly this case in point — anyone remember the Cuban missile crisis? JFK wasn’t having any of it.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 7:47 am

I had to look a couple of times at Alexopolous this morning. In the end, the swim goggles gave it away.

Same, same Knuckle Dragger – then “dingggg!’

will
will
March 22, 2022 7:47 am

“Police located the body of a male person who was deceased from an apparent gunshot wound.”
The house is located about 30km south of Katherine near the Cutta Cutta Caves Nature Park.

30kms for Katherine and he doesn’t have a backhoe?

Gilas
Gilas
March 22, 2022 7:48 am

CMD Longtime Lurker says:
March 22, 2022 at 4:36 am

joint’s lost the plot
it has become absurd

Amen!

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 7:49 am

” I opined that the US had lost all moral authority in world affairs.”

It isn’t just the US…it’s the West. And this has been my argument for the last four weeks. I don’t like Putin or the invasion but I feel such tepidness and emptiness about defending the West now that I can no longer do it. As far as I’m concerned, there’s little to save. It isn’t even the West of twenty years ago. Now this is a microcosm of what has contributed to this moral rot but when we have a full bodied male swimmer, with penis and testicles, who simply “identifies” as a woman (so he’s given a free pass) and who parades his genitalia around in a women’s change room, making the other young females uncomfortable, then goes out and swims against biological women and thrashes them…..and yet an audience applauds HIM and the MSM (including so called conservative publications) all refer to HIM as SHE/HER, it’s beyond rot…..a society is finished.

Everyday we are being gaslighted and lied to…but you know what’s worse? We’re being encouraged and told to lie. I don’t know about others but I will not.

Bit by bit the West is falling….it’s near rock bottom.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 7:49 am

The house of cards has fallen.

I was re-reading a longish piece about the Fall of Constantinople last night. Not the Crusader fall of 1204, the biggest and last at the hands of Mehmet II in 1453.

1500 years. Gone, and for reasons over time that seem plainly obvious to the reader but (I would imagine) seem almost indiscernible to someone living through it. The US is a much shorter, much brighter flame in comparison, and is likely to burn out much quicker.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 7:52 am

Same, Tinta. Conversation just yesterday with another stitcher and bitcher – she knew nothing about ongoing US interference in Ukraine and the web of corruption. It was all black and white – Ukraine holy, Russia evil.

ABC viewer, naturally.

On Kitching:

We know it to be true because we heard it from her.

Wait! What? A reporter getting information from a primary source? How about that!

Looks like everyone knew about the toxic culture in Labor but no one was game to talk about it. It took a death to unseal their lips and typing fingers. Funny how the “wymmyn problems” always involve conservative politicians until they don’t.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 7:53 am

So much for no mendacious trolling.
Srr’s constant personal abuse, claiming among other things that I am pro abortion and profit from the abortion industry gives me zero inclination to follow her orders.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 7:53 am

Looks like Kitching was not going to be pre-selected again:

Yes Top Ender – One of Kimberley Kitching’s good friends Diana Asmar (Health Service Union) tweeted about this and said on the drive home from hearing that she was not to be pre-selected her ‘beautiful heart’ gave up.

will
will
March 22, 2022 7:54 am
rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 7:54 am

And yes Gabor having travelled extensively in Europe I’m well aware of gypsies and their reputation but that doesn’t mean that one can assume caught red handed looting.

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 7:57 am

“Departures over the past few weeks aside, there have been quite some thoughtful, interesting commentators who have disappeared. No one commentator is key to the site’s success. Everybody here is dispensable.
Sometimes culling is painful, though necessary.”

Firstly, who has disappeared? Struth melodramatically went and returned, in the space of forty-eight hours. I guess that’s why we like him.

Secondly, I wouldn’t describe Struth, who’s long been known to have a hissy fit or two as “thoughtful and interesting”, his Covid ranting over the last two years has been anything but “thoughtful and interesting”. With Struth it’s either his way or no way and that ain’t very “thoughtful”.

Thirdly, your statement “culling is painful, though necessary“….so you want people smited? Who do you have in mind? Do you have a list, like any good totalitarian censor?

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 7:59 am

What’s with randoms dropping in to complain about the quality of the discourse?
Don’t like the entertainment here, the internet is a house of many rooms.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 8:01 am

Perhaps someone could help me…I was looking for FlashCat, but seem instead to have stumbled into a bizarre srr universe.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 8:02 am

Lurker has an axe to grind.
Quelle surprise.

Gab
Gab
March 22, 2022 8:02 am

Cardinal George Pell has given a wide-ranging interview to The Spectator’s Holy Smoke podcast in which he criticises the Vatican’s 2018 deal with Beijing and especially the secrecy surrounding it.

While affirming his loyalty to Pope Francis, Pell also makes clear his unhappiness with the sudden move last year to restrict celebrations of the traditional Latin Mass. And so on. 19 mins

https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcast/-i-don-t-think-we-ve-gained-anything-cardinal-pell-on-the-vatican-and-china

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 8:03 am

“Top Endersays:
March 22, 2022 at 7:43 am”

Thanks TE for that. As Mark Latham said the other day n Sky, if Wonk had any decency, she’d resign.

As evidence of their behaviour, last night Andrew Bolt also showed what Senator Linda Reynolds endured last year at a senate hearing at the hands of two of those evil nasty witches….Wonk and Gallagher. I was shocked at the unhinged aggression from Wonk and Gallagher. Reynolds would have received more compassion and decency from Macbeth’s witches.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 8:06 am

With reference JC’s comment last night “Why come clean on the Hunter Biden laptop now”.

The Post should actually keep tabs and report on how the Grey Old Catlady tries to spin this and pounce on each piece of false narrative building as it emerges.

Make sure the topic remains the dereliction of the Progressive Press.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 8:06 am

Mother Lode you’re gunna be in big trouble.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 8:07 am

Been commenting on the Cat(s) for over 10 years now. People come and go. When they come back, they always get a warm welcome from me (unless it’s a new name, I can never pick them).

If you want change, achieve it through your own comments. If you dislike on-line abuse, never abuse others, if you can’t bear pile-ons, don’t join them, if you find a subject distasteful, write something entertaining about something different.

Don’t be like those demonstrators yesterday, piling up all that flood waste and whinging about no one helping clean it up. Instead…help clean it up.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 8:08 am

I recall the US used to go very hard against tax evaders.
Orange jumpsuits, lead into court in leg shackles hard.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 22, 2022 8:09 am

The Babylon Bee strikes gold again.

NCAA Swimming Champ Caught In Possession Of Performance-Enhancing Testicles

Indolent
Indolent
March 22, 2022 8:09 am

Now we know that they’re going to dump Biden. Barr is as swampy as you get.

Bill Barr says Joe Biden lied to Americans about Hunter Biden laptop: ‘I was very disturbed’

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 8:10 am

Someone I know is helping in flood clean up in an official capacity.
They are getting thankyous but zero offers of assistance.
That’s how it is.

Vicki
Vicki
March 22, 2022 8:11 am

This morning when discussing the Covid death of a 2 year old, Norman Swan claimed that treating doctors had the right to use “off label” early treatment medication to treat Covid.

Try telling that to doctors such as Dr Mark Hobart who was disbarred for prescribing Ivermectin & had his clients’ records confiscated!

Indolent
Indolent
March 22, 2022 8:11 am

More interesting pictures of Schwab. I suggest you don’t view if you’re feeling the slightest bit queasy.

Meet Klaus Schwab. If you do not yet know who he is you soon will.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 8:11 am

Old School Conservative says:
March 22, 2022 at 8:09 am

Exhibit A in the “write something entertaining”.

That made me laugh so loud it startled the birds.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 22, 2022 8:13 am

JC

Instead of developing a drone from scratch, why not buy a few off the shelf?

Australia has some history of developing drones. We had the Jindivik aerial target drone (around 360 built, lots of sales), and the Ikara anti-submarine drone, which flew out to the rough position of the target and dropped a homing torpedo.

Lother Mode
Lother Mode
March 22, 2022 8:13 am

Speaking as a lurker who has lurked here, lurkingly, for many years (some contiguous), I just want to say that it is sad to see how this once august blog has been degraded by regular commenters commenting.

I think the blog owner, [insert name here], can only redeem this blog by handing over content wholesale to blow-ins from another site who are unable to attract visitors – so their voices can be heard!

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 8:13 am

“callisays:
March 22, 2022 at 8:07 am”

Very good comment Calli.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 22, 2022 8:13 am

Format fail!

sfw
sfw
March 22, 2022 8:15 am

Saw this question somewhere else, can’t remember where.

“Why do men make better and stronger women than women do?”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 8:18 am

who has disappeared?

Excellent question.

culling is painful, though necessary

Necessary for who? For people who contribute nothing – nothing – to the forum but who pop up once every so often to complain about the free entertainment?

It’s an analogy used before but accurate. It’s like someone rocking up to somebody else’s house every six months, demanding the occupant move the couches around in the lounge room, and would it kill you to put a feature wall in? before pissing off.

Or the late-night talkback radio callers who moan about the timings of Carols by Candlelight on TV every year because it doesn’t fit their bedtime, and/or to agitate for the return of Denis Walter.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 22, 2022 8:23 am

And Kalkara which replaced Jindavik.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 22, 2022 8:25 am

Everyday we are being gaslighted and lied to…but you know what’s worse? We’re being encouraged and told to lie. I don’t know about others but I will not.

Cassie exactly what Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn exhorts every individual to do:

“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 8:30 am

calli says:
March 22, 2022 at 7:15 am
On the Ukrainian gypsies.

Not on Twitter. You can sneak past the “block” if you have patience.

There is talk that they were looters. Maybe. In a war, looters are generally shot on sight. Who the hell knows?

Yep, Govt gave orders to shoot ‘looters’ on sight, plenty of videos showed them doing just that, or rather shooting anyone they saw and felt like shooting.

Gabor says:
March 22, 2022 at 7:11 am
ssr
OK got it not familiar with twitter, never use it and hardly ever follow links to it.
This is the closer link,
hope it works.

Yep, that’s it not ‘looters’ who get shot, it’s evidence of what I kept trying to explain to Cassie and others; that I’m personally in more danger of the eugenics obsessed thugs running the world right now because I tick far more of their “Unpersoned” boxes, including my father’s Slav Gypsy phenotype, like the tortured women in those images.

@majesstticc
Replying to @JackPosobiec

2022 . Europe ! Usual ,
Ukrainian Lviv Nazism. Now about ethnicity. The photographs show representatives of the Gypsy diaspora.
https://mobile.twitter.com/majesstticc/status/1505965125769080833

Cassie of Sydney
March 22, 2022 8:33 am

Further to what I say above, it anything represents the demise and inevitable collapse of the West it is this whole perverted nonsense that is transgenderism. A woman in the UK, spending time in a supposedly female hospital ward, claims she was raped by a male. The NHS authorities told her that was impossible as it was a female only ward, for months the woman has been pleading for justice and an investigation. It now turns out that the “female only ward” included a transgender “female”…which means that it was a male who simply identifies as a woman and thus, in our ludicrous woke times, was placed in a female only ward….to sexually harass and rape women. So the NSH is quite happy to cover up an alleged rape because the alleged perpetrator is a “transwoman”.

Clown world…..except that none of this is funny.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 22, 2022 8:34 am

I’m only getting blocked by twatter on my phone. PC ok.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 8:34 am

It’s just getting silly now.

Today I’m reliably* informed that there are two, yes two! new brands of covid. Deltacron and Stealth Omicron.

Meanwhile deadly Dumbicron rampages unchecked through entire populations.

* article may contain fragments of truth

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 22, 2022 8:38 am

rosie says:
March 22, 2022 at 5:21 am
Funnily enough I don’t care if you can see it or not.

Well that one had me scratching my head.
It appears you posted something for us to see but you don’t care if we can see it or not.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 8:39 am

Letter to the Editor:

Dear Sir,

As someone who has received correspondence from Target for over forty years, I ask the question – why, oh why oh why are all the children pictured in the catalogues smiling?

They should have a sombre expression, conveying the message that they are serious about embarking on their working lives in as little as ten years from now. Also, the colours of the clothes they wear are too bright and festive.

It’s no wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket when children in this day and age appear in my free glossy pamphlets looking like they have not a care in the world.

I strongly suggest that whoever is responsible for producing my free catalogues take a good hard look at themselves, and lift their game. Don’t start me on the shiftless layabouts delivering them, and that I see through my lounge room window. At anywhere from 9.44 a.m. to as late as 3.12 p.m., mind, which is another thing I am less than impressed with.

Yours sincerely,

Enraged from Hampton

shatterzzz
March 22, 2022 8:40 am

One of Kimberley Kitching’s good friends Diana Asmar (Health Service Union)

I can understand why folks would take Diana’s words as gospel .. her appearance at the RC was on par with Kitching’s .. another “bruvva” who was well compensated for her testimony (HSU leadership)!

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 8:40 am

The solution is clear.

There needs to be a third assignment of wards, loos, fitting rooms and other binary facilities to protect females physically and psychologically, and cater to the mental deficiencies of certain men.

Add a “trans” room. Fixed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 8:43 am

I’m personally in more danger of the eugenics obsessed thugs running the world right now because I tick far more of their “Unpersoned” boxes, including my father’s Slav Gypsy phenotype

Black helicopters full of lizards will be overhead in ten minutes. Better get to the Survival Room.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 22, 2022 8:45 am

Meanwhile deadly Dumbicron rampages unchecked through entire populations.

Five is the magic number that will save us all!

Fourth ‘Spring’ Jab Offered to Britons, Health Secretary Hints at FIFTH Jab (21 Mar)

Javid is not the first government official to hint at the possibility of a fifth vaccination, however.

During an interview with American broadcaster NBC, the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director, Dr Anthony Fauci, noted that it was “entirely conceivable” that additional boosters will be needed to fight off COVID.

This is as crazy as the mad qwerty stuff. When will the human race come to its senses?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 8:49 am

FWIW, DoverLord, only the first of those two should be Lother Mode.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 8:51 am

Australia has some history of developing drones. We had the Jindivik aerial target drone (around 360 built, lots of sales), and the Ikara anti-submarine drone, which flew out to the rough position of the target and dropped a homing torpedo.

And there was Gillard.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 22, 2022 8:57 am

Don’t be like those demonstrators yesterday, piling up all that flood waste and whinging about no one helping clean it up. Instead…help clean it up.

Better still, don’t live where it floods frequently because the land was cheap.

Vicki
Vicki
March 22, 2022 8:58 am

It appears that the citizens of Ukraine are only 30% vaccinated. Dear, dear – the western Covidians don’t know quite how to respond as they accept the refugees:
This, from this morning’s substack of eugyppius:

Bayerischer Rundfunk (Bavarian Public Radio) notices that Ukrainian refugees are overwhelmingly unvaccinated:

Only about a third of Ukrainians have been vaccinated against Corona, in part with vaccines that are unapproved in the EU. The low vaccination rate could cause problems in the refugee centres. The city of Nürnberg, for example, has set up three gymnasiums to accommodate 600 people, where many must share a small space. …

Anyone who wants to can receive a vaccination a few hundred metres away … free of charge for Ukrainian refugees.

“Unfortunately, we’re finding that the refugees aren’t exactly snatching the vaccines out of our hands,” says Nürnberg Mayor Marcus König.

“Many new arrivals are very worried about ‘forced vaccinations’,” adds Thomas Jung, Mayor of Fürth. He says you have to approach the topic with sensitivity. …?

It’s has been months of overt coercion to accept vaccination from politicians and the press here in the Federal Republic of Germany. Months of social exclusion and jeopardised careers and all the rest of it. Nobody has given the slightest thought to “sensitivity.” Why is that now appropriate for unvaccinated refugees?

Jung explains that city officials pressed a Ukrainian doctor into service, to begin preaching the Gospel of Vaccination to refugees last Friday. It’s rare, because the West is so totalising, but every now and then you get an idea of what it must be like to look into this funhouse from the outside. You flee a war-zone and end up sleeping on the floor of some repurposed gym, while the locals scheme madly about how to inject you with their latest mRNA tech.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 22, 2022 8:59 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 22, 2022 at 12:17 am
WA gun laws: McGowan Government to rewrite State’s legislation as shocking data reveals extent of ownership
Peter Law
The West Australian
Mon, 21 March 2022 8:30PM

WA’s outdated firearms laws will be completely rewritten by the McGowan Government, as shocking new maps reveal the true scale of gun ownership in suburban Perth.

The maps — provided to The West Australian from the WA Police Force database — show how prolific the potentially lethal weapons have become in every corner of the city.

What’s the trend with gun crimes?
Oh, sorry, stupid irrelevant question. Do carry on.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 8:59 am

Reminds me of this, KD.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 22, 2022 9:00 am

For Labor to not act decisively when it concerns one of its own is hypocritical. Albanese should initiate an inquiry.

He probably should.
The playbook says: appoint a safe ‘independent’ (say, a soft-Left retired QC) to head the inquiry, with a time line to deliver a report in (say) July – and then loudly demand everyone respect the process because Kimberly and STFU.

But I hope they elect to stew in the issue.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 22, 2022 9:01 am

Spot on Knuckles. What I like about the Flash Cat is the varied takes by commenters on the same subject, giving a perspective not reached by just reading a post. Also the differing backgrounds of commenters, most of whom have or are still contributing to our country. We are all biased in some way otherwise we wander round aimlessly. I never expect others to see things the way I do, all I hope is they may consider a differing point of view even if rejecting it as it tempers their own view.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 9:02 am

We know it to be true because we heard it from her.
Wait! What? A reporter getting information from a primary source? How about that!

Im sure Kitching wouldn’t background the media because her casual vacancy as a mate of the (now deposed) Peanut Head was coming to an end.

Vicki
Vicki
March 22, 2022 9:03 am

Surprise, surprise! All those PCR tests were picking up false COVID positives it now appears. Just maybe….many (not all!) were the influenza, or just common old colds, as we suspected:

The Lancet Respiratory Medicine: Role of Exosomes in False-Positive Covid-19 PCR Tests

“We find that PCR testing data for the second and following wavesof COVID-19 pandemic indicate that these waves are mainly artefactsof false-positive results.”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355972541_The_Lancet_Respiratory_Medicine_Role_of_exosomes_in_false-positive_covid-19_PCR_tests

And what of the accuracy of RAT tests????

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 9:03 am

Eyrie, another time honoured solution to flooding – raise your house on stilts. You can always pick the flood areas by the old houses built so.

Raft slabs are just that. In some areas paddles should be included in the purchase price.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:07 am

I know Latho said Penny Wong should do the decent thing and resign, but lets be honest – politicians always respond to their opponents misdeeds by demanding they resign.

And particularly in the case of people like Wong decency is a nicely worded press release, not something you feel.

But you might insist that, at the very least, and if only going through the motions of decency (without comprehension or conviction) she at least admits to it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 9:08 am

Various comments from KD, Rosie, Cassie and Ranga on the piece of overwrought verbose pomposity posted in the early hours.
Big upticks all.
One minor question.
Why did it need that blockquoted piece of gibberish as a lead-in?

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 9:08 am

What amazes me (not that I’m capable of much “amazement” these days) is the vast urban sprawl on what was flood plain at Riverstone, Schofields and Vineyard.

It’s as if, by the stroke of a planner’s pen, the flood waters from innumerable ephemeral watercourses can suddenly be stopped.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 22, 2022 9:09 am

Australian military aircraft designed and built here since WW2:
Winjeel military trainer – allegedly designed by folk who had worked on the Percival Provost.
Jindivik target drone
I don’t count Ikara as it is fully expendable every mission. Missile not a drone but gets a mention.
Nomad. Nothing much wrong when flown as intended. Was originally a single engine design. We could have had the Cessna Caravan/Pilatus PC-12 concept long ago.
There was a proposal for the Nomad Bellata gunship. Cessna Caravan has been used as such.
Now the Ghost Bat. There is at least one other US design for the same role but it is also still in development. You don’t buy large supersonic drones off the shelf when there aren’t any.
Mind you I doubt many chook yards and back sheds will be turning out Ghost Bats, ever. Carbon fiber, precise molds to maintain stealth, nice hi tech jet engine and a goodly number of electronic parts all of which are sourced overseas. Bet the carbon and resins are too.
Hope they do get rid of the air data probe and the other air data probes sticking out of the Ghost Bat as they would completely destroy the stealth. When Northrop Grumman built the B-2 that was a problem that took a while to solve. Knew a lady who worked in the wind tunnel on exactly that.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 22, 2022 9:10 am

TWO MINUTES OF TERROR China plane crash – Terrifying moment Boeing 737 carrying 132 nosedives 29,000ft vertically into mountain at 350mph

Extraordinary brief video clip. A plane crash is always awful, but in this instance it’s hard to imagine how awful the last moments would have been.

I’m far from an aviation expert, but something bizarre must have happened.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 22, 2022 9:11 am

I cannot understand the mentality of the dickheads dumping their flood-damaged shit outside the big house. Perhaps it’s just me.

Sure, get the government to give you a chop out where they can – but it’s the absolute expectation that everything will be done for you that shits me. ‘Look at this damaged chair. Government’s fault for not doing enough, and/or everything for me because I am helpless.’

The ADF offers of assistance were initially knocked back by the SES in NSW, and when they finally turned up to give the punters a hand they were spat on.

Spat on. Get fucked. See how easy it is carrying your prized footy card collection out of your flooded house a) on your own, and b) with a dislocated elbow.

johanna
johanna
March 22, 2022 9:11 am

KD, re the smiling kiddies, you forgot that they have been told that they are all going to fry, if the planet doesn’t turn into a vast ecological desert because evil humans first.

The happy snaps are a lie. What would St Greta say?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:13 am

Eyrie, another time honoured solution to flooding – raise your house on stilts.

Are the houses affected by flooding located in areas where dams were supposed to prevent inundation, or at least reduce its probability to near zero but authorities, through a proprietary blend of ignorance, arrogance, indifference, and gullible obsequiousness to unsubstantiated environmentalist claims, have decided not to follow their manuals but instead use the dam to protect the habitat of a frog that is commonplace over most of three states?

JC
JC
March 22, 2022 9:15 am

Longtime

We need to get a lease agreement going as the rent needs to be charged at market rates.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 9:16 am

JC!
Welcome back!

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 9:17 am

Lode, the areas I mentioned are on a flood plain. Regardless of dams, they will flood. Concreting over the soil won’t stop it happening. The water has to go somewhere and there’s no pipe or channel big enough.

The “Sydney Basin” is just that.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 9:18 am

Did JC do a frill*? Did I miss it?

* mini flounce

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 22, 2022 9:19 am

In Not Many People Know That news:

‘Russian elite’ plan to POISON Putin and have chosen a successor, claim spooks

A brief from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine has said that FSB director Oleksandr Bortnikov is being lined up to replace Vladimir Putin

“In particular, poisoning, sudden disease, or any other ‘coincidence’ is not excluded.”

Presumably Comrade Bortnikov will be hoping that nobody in the Kremlin reads the Daily Mirror and picks up on his cunning plan.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:20 am

Lode, the areas I mentioned are on a flood plain.

My geography is appalling. Hence the question.

I was just thinking about the flooding in QLD that should not have occurred (or at least to a much smaller extent) had the dam been managed properly.

Indolent
Indolent
March 22, 2022 9:24 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
March 22, 2022 9:26 am

TWO MINUTES OF TERROR China plane crash – Terrifying moment Boeing 737 carrying 132 nosedives 29,000ft vertically into mountain at 350mph

Runaway elevator trim can do that. It was a -800 not a Max but the systems aren’t all that different. It is a known emergency and there is a fix – remove the power to the trim motor. The switches are at the back of the console between the pilots. Same as would have prevented the Max crashes.
I haven’t searched to find the ADSB data yet which will give some clues.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:27 am

‘Russian elite’ plan to POISON Putin and have chosen a successor, claim spooks

Did someone say spooks?

Aww crap.

You will have Deek Ed bounding to his mission room attaching another piece of red string from a thumb tacked card saying “PUTIN” to the edge of the forest of cards and creeping spiderweb of red string where he will put a new card merely reading “?”

Like 75% of the others which also say “?”

JC
JC
March 22, 2022 9:27 am

There are some mentally ill people around. Jeez

Wake up at 4.36 am and the first thing you think about is write a long winded comment about Struth and who should be banned.

All perfectly normal and no psychotic drugs involved at all. None . Zero.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:31 am

Trying one more time:

The Biden household must be a riot at breakfast.

Joe sitting at one end of the table, wearing his breakfast Star Wars pyjamas, flicking lumps of oatmeal from his oversized plastic spoon into his wife’s hair, and then pretending it wasn’t him even while his shoulders shake with laughter.

Jill ignoring her grapefruit and coffee, grimly working her way through a large gin to prepare herself for the day with its false bubbliness and false smiles and increasingly false hope that there is a reward at the end. And closing her eyes in despondent forbearance as lumps of oatmeal are snared by her dyed and coiffured hair.

Ashley sitting in front of her fruit loops after her morning shower, unmoving, with the 1,000 yard stare, dressed as if by mere muscle memory.

And Hunter in just a pair of socks, greasy skin, eyes rolled back in his head, slumped far back in his chair with one arm hanging over the back, glass pipe hanging precipitously from his lip, smelling faintly of cheap perfume and Eastern European quim, and with a laptop on the table with its camera pointed at his maggot-like physique.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 22, 2022 9:33 am

Meanwhile the usual suspects continue their content free posts.

johanna
johanna
March 22, 2022 9:34 am

Mother Lode, if you ever catch the train out to the western suburbs of Sydney, there are large areas as you get towards Blacktown where the railway line is on a high, raised embankment, which effectively keeps it level, and down below are vast areas of swamp which dry out in summer or during droughts, but are otherwise bogland. Yet, they have built houses to within a few hundred metres.

As calli says, there is simply nowhere for the water to go, and never will be. But a few shonky developers and councillors/council employees have got rich by concealing this information from unsuspecting homebuyers.

On another note, browsing Queanbeyan’s premier bookshop (Anglicare) yesterday, I picked up a copy of Murray Walker’s autobiography, Unless I’m Very Much Mistaken, for $3.00. According to the blurb, Walker was a tank commander in WWII and later an advertising executive before he became known as a motor racing commentator. Should be an interesting read.

Tell you what, Anglicare sure beats those awful chain bookshops like Dymocks (before they became almost extinct) for variety, not to mention price. None of the three excellent books I’ve picked up in the last couple of weeks would be found there, because they were published several years ago, and even if you could order them, they would cost ten times as much.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 22, 2022 9:36 am

Someone I know is helping in flood clean up in an official capacity.
They are getting thankyous but zero offers of assistance.
That’s how it is.

The first five days of the Brisbane cleanup appeared to be 100% volunteer. People just turned up and did helpful stuff.

My only observation of early official assistance (aside from Palacechook warning us to go home because of followup wicked deadly storms) was a couple of Council officers muttering darkly about infection risk and how we were not insured and could be liable for any damage and loss we caused.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 9:37 am

Thanks, Johanna.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 22, 2022 9:38 am

Did someone say spooks?
Aww crap.

No, no: flamers, it was flamers
No, not flamers…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
March 22, 2022 9:39 am

Whew. Phone scrolling so I have probably missed a lot.

No idea who Dolores is so that one fell through to the floor.

Delta, be sensible as you usually are. Internet bullying exists and can be harmful if it becomes persistent and extreme. Reasonable self-regulation is the answer. It is also a waste of people’s time. Dover is right to ask for less of it here.

Also, Bourne, what I chose to write about is my own business.
And so is whether I wish to be a commenter here or not. As Dover has introduced his guidelines the place I think is better at minding its p’s and q’s.

Now, a minor travel blog. It’s gloomy weather in a Per Gynt furthest reaches of the world sense here in Hobart looking out over the sweep of the Derwent from the 19th floor of the faded old 5 star Grand Chancellor. We like these older places because they often have the best position offering more spacious rooms and we always prefer a view to trendy designer updates in newer boutique hotels, often peculiar in style with tech posing as art, in smaller viewless rooms.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 22, 2022 9:40 am

JC:

There are some mentally ill people around. Jeez

Good thing that you and I are sane. Eh JC?

Only two of us amongst a bag of loonies.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 9:47 am

Old School Conservative
I said ‘you’ not ‘youse’.

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 9:48 am

The difference between a story and a narrative?

The easy way to remember the difference between story and narrative is to reshuffle the order of events. A new event order means you have a new narrative of the same story.

there’s a lot of narrative story-telling around this joint lately.

shatterzzz
March 22, 2022 9:49 am

Tell you what, Anglicare sure beats those awful chain bookshops like Dymocks

Op-shops have been my bookstore(s) of choice for over 20 years .. LOL!

JC
JC
March 22, 2022 9:50 am

I am pretty level, Rambles. Don’t include me with you again please.

Eyrie

You obviously read them, so stop whining. But then whining is a national trait, right?

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 9:51 am

Old School Conservative says:
March 22, 2022 at 8:38 am

rosie says:
March 22, 2022 at 5:21 am
Funnily enough I don’t care if you can see it or not.

Well that one had me scratching my head.
It appears you posted something for us to see but you don’t care if we can see it or not.

Not “we”, just me (who rosie knows unlike most, is blocked from all but linked Twitter posts), the woman of recognisable Gypsy genes who certain others here have whipped up a passionate hatred towards with their unending making up of bald faced lies.

You will also not that there’s been no outcry against the torture those Gypsy women are made to suffer, just a bit of cool chat as to whether they may have been simply punished for looting/thieving.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 9:52 am

Can’t understand lurking. How do you come here regularly and not want to give JC a raz for ironing his jeans. I just couldn’t stop myself.

Gab
Gab
March 22, 2022 9:53 am

H B Bearsays:
March 22, 2022 at 9:52 am
Can’t understand lurking. How do you come here regularly and not want to give JC a raz for ironing his jeans. I just couldn’t stop myself.

Oi! You don’t even wear pants!!

😀

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 9:55 am

give JC a raz for ironing

ahhh … JC has got sancho’s irony-thingy

explains his ‘overwrought’ post earlier

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 9:56 am

Back to normal then.

areff
areff
March 22, 2022 9:59 am

Was the “multifloriate rose” something to do with sex?

Only if painted by Georgia O’Keefe

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 9:59 am

There would be no second hand books in opshops unless some punter forked out for a new book in the first instance.
Authors, generally speaking, are entitled to some reward for their labour.

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 22, 2022 10:01 am

I was just thinking about the flooding in QLD that should not have occurred (or at least to a much smaller extent) had the dam been managed properly.

Mother lode,
The dam only added a few inches, as they were timing releases to reach the river at low tides.

In many areas this was a fresh water flood ( ie this time you could see the grass under the water at Suncorp.)

Most of the other places that flooded will always flood regardless of any dam.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 10:05 am

Eyriesays:

March 22, 2022 at 9:33 am

Meanwhile the usual suspects continue their content free posts.

Look, I know this may come as a shock, but not everyone finds your content spellbinding either.
Use your scroll wheel.
It is just beside the Airfix model of the Spitfire.

JC
JC
March 22, 2022 10:05 am

Here’s the difference between quality and bilge like posting comments about a dysfunctional wing flap or you’re all traitors.

Dot posted an incredibly long and thoughtful piece on what we should do to balance the listing ship of state.

Does anyone have any comments for or against or is it better to post a comment about a pathology clinic in South Dakota finding there’s a statistical cluster of repeat cancers, which to the poster is strongly suggestive that the covid vax is the cause?

I also don’t quite get how some here are wanting others to be their fucking entertainment directors. DIY.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 10:08 am

Winter in Europe the rivers are invariably so shallow birds are only ankle deep, then you do a little reading and there is mention of this or that terrible flood.
In Girona the renaissance house balconies hung over the river and I wondered about spring floods.
Problem solved, they moved the river and what flows through the town river bed is only what they want.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 10:08 am

Most of the other places that flooded will always flood regardless of any dam.

Expect it to get built into market prices. You might get a bargain house on a concrete slab at the bottom of the street but expect to hand over the savings to a Harvey Norman franchisee periodically. Forget trying to get flood insurance.

Roger
Roger
March 22, 2022 10:11 am

ZELENSKY CAUSES OUTRAGE IN ISRAEL AFTER COMPARING RUSSIA’S MILITARY OPERATION TO THE HOLOCAUST

After several close calls, he’s finally jumped the shark.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:12 am

Dot posted an incredibly long and thoughtful piece on what we should do to balance the listing ship of state.

Yes. I would like to see comments like that set up as a separate thread.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 10:13 am

I also don’t quite get how some here are wanting others to be their fucking entertainment directors. DIY.

Exactly. We are not organ grinder’s monkeys. If you want that vote for Kristina Keneally.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 22, 2022 10:15 am

JC reads that post and only sees Struth mentioned. Hilarious yet again.

I dont know who the new poster is but he/she does seem to be racking up the likes on their two posts. JC’s not so much. The tribe is speaking.

JCsays:
March 22, 2022 at 9:27 am
Wake up at 4.36 am and the first thing you think about is write a long winded comment about Struth and who should be banned.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:19 am

I realise that I didn’t get hot under the collar about those photos of gypsy women being tied to poles with their faces painted. In the same way I don’t get agitated about random photos of anything much any more.

Unless it is proven to be real and not just another serving of b/s.

My emotions aren’t just anyone’s to manipulate. They are guarded very carefully. In a post-truth world you have to be cautious.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:21 am

The tribe is speaking.

Not necessarily.

Bruce proved the other day that the “likes” can be easily manipulated. I think I now know how and it doesn’t involve multiple registrations.

JC
JC
March 22, 2022 10:21 am

Bourne

I thought your comment about Megan Kelly et al was very deep. We need more of those comments.

What are your thoughts on Dot’s comment. What would you change and or add?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 10:23 am

Op-shops have been my bookstore(s) of choice for over 20 years .. LOL!

I used to go to the Cornstack bookshop in Newtown in the 90’s. A lot of books there from uni students who seemingly could not bring themselves to tossing them out. These would have been the books required for courses rather than books they loved. They would also have all sorts of comments in the margins, or phrases underlined, or paragraphs bracketed.

So you not only got to read the original book but got to make sense other people’s perspectives.

At a fraction of the price of a new book.

I tried Gould’s a few times. I think I bought one book – a Robert Frost anthology. It was just too much effort. There was no order, authors were not even grouped together, books on shelves were often two deep so you couldn’t even see half the titles, and the staff had no idea, and the selection (such as it was) was random rather than eclectic – I once saw an instruction manual for some appliance on the shelves. It was as if they had taken the definition of book shop as a shop with books and so that was all they did.

Roger
Roger
March 22, 2022 10:25 am

I cannot understand the mentality of the dickheads dumping their flood-damaged shit outside the big house. Perhaps it’s just me.

It’s akin to someone ringing their federal member to complain about a pothole.

Or in this case, more likely, local Labor ratbags providing some “bad optics” for the PM.

In any case, flood mitigation is not a federal responsibility.

They should have dumped their debris in front of Rous County Council’s offices, or is that dominated by Labor & the Greens?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 10:25 am

Bruce proved the other day that the “likes” can be easily manipulated. I think I now know how and it doesn’t involve multiple registrations.

Quite so.
The one yesterday jumped from 10 to 30 upticks in about ten minutes with no-one posting comments.
I think we all know who was adept at that little trick.
And, BTW, is this a popularity contest?
How very Uniparty.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:26 am

Boobooks in Armidale. A treasure house of out-of-print goodness.

If you’re in the New England area worth a look.

I also used to frequent the book stalls at village markets. Picked over, but still some great finds.

cohenite
March 22, 2022 10:28 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 22, 2022 at 12:17 am
WA gun laws: McGowan Government to rewrite State’s legislation as shocking data reveals extent of ownership
Peter Law
The West Australian
Mon, 21 March 2022 8:30PM

Shocking that people conform to existing laws and buy their weapons legally. I wonder what the rate of crime with illegal weapons is in WA. The left always want to disarm people because they know that an armed populace is hard to cower.

johanna
johanna
March 22, 2022 10:32 am

Well rosie, O sanctimonious one, the author of a book that retails in a shop for $30 would be lucky to get the $3.00 I paid for Murray’s autobiography, even if he were still alive. With a few exceptions, authors get a very small proportion of the retail price.

How on Earth did we get from discussing boring and overpriced chain shops to second hand outlets being parasitic or something? Sheesh!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 22, 2022 10:37 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
March 22, 2022 at 9:39 am
….No idea who Dolores is so that one fell through to the floor.

That’s right Lizzie. If you personally didn’t get the gag there was no point making it. It’s totally inconsequential that other people also read the blog.

solipsism
[?s?l?ps?z(?)m]
NOUN
the quality of being very self-centred or selfish.
philosophy
the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 10:37 am

It is bizarre calli how we are expected by certain people to show conspicuous outrage at certain things or fall short of perfection.
Does it not occur that by mentioning the photos at the link I had concerns about what was happening?
Not to mention I’d made a comment about the barbaric nature of the treatment of ‘looters’ a couple of days ago.
It might be looters, it might be desperate people looking for food or being punished for speaking Russian, we don’t know all we can know is that there are people pulling men, women and childrens pants down, tying them to posts in the snow and beating them with sticks and belts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 22, 2022 10:38 am

Extraordinary brief video clip. A plane crash is always awful, but in this instance it’s hard to imagine how awful the last moments would have been.

Poor buggers, zero chance of survivors in that smash.

johanna
johanna
March 22, 2022 10:39 am

Boobooks in Armidale. A treasure house of out-of-print goodness.

Is that still there? I remember going there over 30 years ago, and it was well established even then. Just goes to show there is a market for quality, albeit probably not a very large one.

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 10:40 am

anyway I’m not finished.
I have more to say on narrative

Rex’s little game yesterday has bothered me …
you know … the SuBsuMeD bY ThE nArRaTiVe thing??

I’ll tell you something now.
those words ‘subsumed by the narrative’ they’re mine and mine alone.
They don’t come from some skanky conspiracy tunnel

do yourselves a favour and google that phrase
tell me if you don’t come up with a bunch of scholarly and thoughtful links regarding Psychology, History, or Philosophy

at best Rex is being mendacious
more likely its just being not very well read
at worst, the narrative story-re-telling is by design.

I can forgive the first two but it’s the 3rd option that bothers me most
because it requires motive

anyway … even though I wince a little every time some modern scholar talks about empathy like its a consciously practiced thing, I very much liked reading this,
Non-subsumptive memory and narrative empathy

now shut up and eat the bugs

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 22, 2022 10:41 am

The dam only added a few inches, as they were timing releases to reach the river at low tides.

Wasn’t there an inquiry into whether the operators of the dam had made the flood worse by not opening the gates at earlier opportunities?

My main memory of those days is KRudd wading through the waters carrying an empty suitcase to safety. Back then we looked at that image and cringed. These days it is just contempt. This is the man who is at pains to steer the US toward rapprochement with China.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 10:41 am

I’m well aware Joh.
But the author gets nothing at all from the second hand sale.
Boasting about being somehow superior because you didn’t pay for a new book though.
(I have zero problem with the second hand market for anything.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 10:41 am

The book market, it’s pricing and structure is well established. It works. Don’t like it? Tough. It ain’t changing unless the government thinks it “unfair” and does something to stuff it up.

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 10:41 am

I think we all know who was adept at that little trick.

out with it

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 22, 2022 10:44 am

Authors get 10% of the RRP. That can be even less later if the contract says the publisher can sell the books at a discount.

Bookshops get 40%.

The publisher gets 50%, but out of that they have to pay for the graphic design, printing, and distribution – and make a profit.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:44 am

It is Joh. Better than ever and oozing with good stuff, all neatly sorted and catalogued. I managed to get one book that has been oop for years. Saving it up for the next rainy, cold spell.

Don’t laugh, but it’s M.M. Kay’s “Shadow of the Moon”, a Perils of Pauline set in the Sepoy Mutiny, underpinned by some excellent research. Read it years ago, loved it. Hope it’s just as good next time.

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 10:45 am

Exactly H B Bear.
Like all business publishers and retailers take on risk, who knows when particular publication is a dud and ends up on a pallet at an outlet like the book grocers.
Biographies in particular are very quickly yesterday’s news.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 10:46 am

If you like 2nd hand books abebooks is your friend. Owned by Amazon I think if that is a problem for you (I couldn’t give a shit FWIW).

rosie
rosie
March 22, 2022 10:48 am

M M Kaye is a good example of an old school author with perennial popularity.
D E Stevenson, Elizabeth Cadell, Lucille Andrews, Elizabeth Goudge, Mary Stewart are also in that category.

Roger
Roger
March 22, 2022 10:49 am

Wasn’t there an inquiry into whether the operators of the dam had made the flood worse by not opening the gates at earlier opportunities?

The inquiry found the dam operating manual was not complied with, but conceded said manual was “a mess”.

It was recommended that more sophisticated flood plain management be undertaken across Queensland.

In retrospect, it’s difficult not to conclude that the dogma that “the rain that falls will not fill our dams” led to widespread complacency at all levels of responsibility.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 22, 2022 10:51 am

I believe that Matrix & Rex are having a homosexual relationship.
All the back & forth over the past 24-48 hours is cover.

rickw
rickw
March 22, 2022 10:52 am

By the end of the week my flood control dam will almost be empty. Provided my valiant CCP garden pump keeps shoving water through 1200m of 25mm rural poly.

If it stays dry we’ll get out the JD 760A this weekend and do some improvements to grades to improve speed and extent of drainage. Plus do some work to address erosion at the dam entry, going to run pipes.

How’s that for organisation better than an entire Queensland Bureaucracy!

Long term we’re going green, going to set up a 2” siphon pipe between the flood dam and another dam, about 10m of head difference so should work ok.

cohenite
March 22, 2022 10:53 am

In retrospect, it’s difficult not to conclude that the dogma that “the rain that falls will not fill our dams” led to widespread complacency at all levels of responsibility.

Quite simply Wivenhoe which was built after the 1974 Brisbane floods as a flood mitigator was, because of bastards like flannery and his it’ll never rain again, being used as a drought mitigator and was full with no reserve capacity, so when the BOM could not predict the rain event there was no ability of the dam to control the flood water and the dam had to release water at the height of the rain event. Result: 11 dead, billions in damages and a $440 million payout.

Lessons learnt: none.

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 22, 2022 10:54 am

Wasn’t there an inquiry into whether the operators of the dam had made the flood worse by not opening the gates at earlier opportunities?

That was the 2011 floods. My comments relate to the floods this year. 2011 the dam was near 100% when the rains came, this time only 58% and within 2 days was at 180%+

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
March 22, 2022 10:54 am

South Korea, from Trialsitenews.
The nation, despite some of the highest vaccination and boosted rates in the world, now experiences its worst surge since the onset of the pandemic. With over 400,000 cases per day based on a seven-day average and record deaths, the nation of 52 million was preparing for a fourth booster by the start of this year—implementing the program in February.

And they call this poison VACCINE.

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 10:55 am

bern,
men in frocks doesn’t do it for me

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 10:55 am

The government changed the law to give aboriginal artists an interest in the re-sale of established works. Not sure what it has done to the market. We did a consulting job for an aboriginal art gallery. Don’t think we were paid a cent but we got a Rover Thomas for the board room.

calli
calli
March 22, 2022 10:57 am

From Matrix’s link:

Self-satisfied subjects who feel good about empathising with the plight of others are more likely to participate in subsumptive appropriation of others than those who engage with their own experiences of uneasiness, unsettlement, and confusion in the process of trying to imagine the others’ experience.

Interesting, and curiously something I was discussing with another person just this week. In relation to stress and grief and how to respond.

There is an urge to say, “I know just how you feel because this happened to me…blah…blah…blah.”. When really all the person needs is for you to listen, put your arm around them and sit in the grief gutter with them.

cohenite
March 22, 2022 10:59 am

They should have dumped their debris in front of Rous County Council’s offices, or is that dominated by Labor & the Greens?

Lismore council has been a filth council for a long time; they oversaw the building of the Lismore Levees completed in 2005 and updated in 2009 as nuisance flooding levees: ie the levees could not deal with any major flood. That was a decision of the filth council so the blame for the current flood damage is with the filth not scomo:

https://www.floodplainconference.com/papers2014/Bill%20Moorhouse.pdf

Roger
Roger
March 22, 2022 11:01 am

I see Dr. Norman Swan has his covid podcast up and running again.

Must be looking forward to winter.

cohenite
March 22, 2022 11:01 am

Laws interviewed the commie arsehole who organised the climate protest in Sydney today. The arsehole was very smooth and sprouted the usual alarmist talking points. I could not ring up and repudiate the mongrel because laws has banned me so I rang Alan Moran who will talk to laws after the 11am news. Listen now and get off your arse and ring laws after to support Alan.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 11:02 am

I say we got a Rover Thomas …. Really the boss got a Rover Tomas and I got something to look at when tuning out of various meetings. Still a benefit nevertheless.

Roger
Roger
March 22, 2022 11:04 am

ie the levees could not deal with any major flood.

I saw an estimate that they would need to be 5 times higher to do so.

Lismore needs to ask itself some hard questions.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 22, 2022 11:07 am

bern,
men in frocks doesn’t do it for me

Funny that, as he allegedly can’t stand ‘sheilas.’

Despite being as passive-aggressive as the stereotype he’s using and unable to express himself or these latest ideas of his coherently.

Matrix darling, if you find me so objectionable and are certain that I am some sort of NaRrAtIvE-MeRcHaNt PrOpAgAnDiSt who is poisoning minds and not a very good person and shouldn’t be on this blog because I won’t agree with your Thought Leader’s consensus, you can always ask Dover to ban me. As is now the current fashion.

Or call me a ‘Nazi’ or ‘denier’ to economise on words and avoid your clumsy half-sentences and incompletely expressed ideas being misinterpreted time and again…

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 11:08 am

Yeah, nah –

“I realise that I didn’t get hot under the collar about those photos of gypsy women being tied to poles with their faces painted. In the same way I don’t get agitated about random photos of anything much any more.

Unless it is proven to be real and not just another serving of b/s.

My emotions aren’t just anyone’s to manipulate. They are guarded very carefully. In a post-truth world you have to be cautious.”

– something like that, questioning rosie’s drawing attention to an actual, commonplace torture Ukrainian Nazi’s have been dishing out, and whether this particular instance was, “proven to be real”, would have read more like someone genuinely warning against ’emotional manipulation’.

Needing to come out and explain why that torture of Gypsy women didn’t get the usual display of a compassionate heart the poster if ‘famed’ for, reads more like, ‘Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit my slip is showing!’.

But that’s fine.
Some people are still happy to have jumped & stayed on the, “Kimberley K was such a lovely person!”, bandwagon, when it paid to go with that political narrative, just knowing that their ‘dear friends’ won’t call them out on the very opposite personal opinion they used to hold.

Many people are still to learn that, a fair weather friend is far more sinister & dangerous than an honest opponent.

areff
areff
March 22, 2022 11:09 am

From The Age’s review of Australian Architecture by Davina Jackson:

“…Jackson begins with Australia’s traditional Indigenous architecture, but the chapter is dominated by consideration of the early buildings of the Sydney penal settlement, examining key protagonists and building types, embellished by fascinating vignettes…”

It was only because Joseph Banks secretly erased the passages in Cook’s log that nobody knows about Pascoe Towers, the world’s largest bark-clad, gum-thatched high-rise waiting on South Head to awe the invaders.

Delta A
Delta A
March 22, 2022 11:10 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
March 22, 2022 at 9:39 am

Delta, be sensible as you usually are. Internet bullying exists and can be harmful if it becomes persistent and extreme.

Of course internet bullying exists. Everyone knows that it is particularly dangerous for vulnerable children and teens. But there is no such thing as Catallaxy bullying.

Most of us had lurked for some time before commenting on this site. We assessed the standard of topics, discussions, stoushes and individual life experiences. Obviously, we liked what we saw. And we jumped right in.

As in any community, there are personlity clashes and some posters who are, frankly, downright annoying. It’s our choice whether we simply scroll them, or take them on, potentially sparking mighty battles which can rage for evah.

Struth’s (and twostix’s) constant castigation of Rosie comes close to ‘bullying’ at times, but Rosie simply refuses to be their victim. She doesn’t run away* or complain about their insults. She stands her ground and fires right back.

Other posters deal similarly with their foe: blow for blow until someone falls asleep. TBH, I find these long-running battles boring and I scroll them, but I wouldn’t call for any bannings, because I knew what I was in for when I joined The Cat.

You are no shrinking violet, Elizabeth. You’re a strong and determined woman, as your life story shows. Your fued with johanna is evenly matched, in wit and technique. Neither are bullies, nor being bullied. Unfortunately, this fued will never end until one of you has enough character to simply shut up and scroll.

*Any Cat who feels that they are victims of bullying here should remove themselves from risk and lurk for a while, or leave completely. Our mental health is just as important as our physical health.

will
will
March 22, 2022 11:10 am

Today in elections have consequences:

ExxonMobil fires warning over Victoria’s plan to turn off gas

The Age notes that ExxonMobil is an “Energy giant: and United States-based

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 11:11 am

MatrixTransformsays:

March 22, 2022 at 10:41 am

I think we all know who was adept at that little trick.

out with it

Right after the composite character who posts long pompous diatribes in the early morning gives a complete list of who should be banned, complete with supporting evidence.
See.
We can all be “mystical and cryptic”.
It isn’t hard.

MatrixTransform
March 22, 2022 11:14 am

you know this ‘raising spectres’ thing
the propping up a narrative device to explain away really shitty behaviour
that thing?

very much in the province of a Cluster B personality type

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 11:18 am

In retrospect, it’s difficult not to conclude that the dogma that “the rain that falls will not fill our dams” led to widespread complacency at all levels of responsibility.

Agree Roger.
Who wants to be identified, in the midst of a drought four years later, as the one who let all that luverly water flow out to sea?

Arky
March 22, 2022 11:20 am

Get off the Russian propaganda sites please.
Here’s David Starkey to put some background into the thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPqemB_7Sk

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 11:20 am

If you want an example of a market completely stuffed by government “fairness” The Green-Left Weekly Radio (now Half) Hour formerly known as AM is bleating about childcare. Probably no better example.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 22, 2022 11:23 am

will says:
March 22, 2022 at 11:10 am
Today in elections have consequences:

ExxonMobil fires warning over Victoria’s plan to turn off gas

The Age notes that ExxonMobil is an “Energy giant: and United States-based

Noting the fertiliser and chemical companies that both had to shut down local production due to cost.
Way to go for self reliance with China punishing us with supplies and shortages of Ag inputs worldwide.
To say Andrews is an A grade fuckwit does little to showcase the immense stupidity of denying farmers reliable and abundant inputs for a green dream of a starving planet.
“Let them eat grass”

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 22, 2022 11:25 am

Who wants to be identified, in the midst of a drought four years later, as the one who let all that luverly water flow out to sea?

The electoral consequences of spending billions on unused desalination plants would appear to be precisely NIL.

srr
srr
March 22, 2022 11:30 am

Sancho Panzer says:
March 22, 2022 at 10:25 am

Bruce proved the other day that the “likes” can be easily manipulated. I think I now know how and it doesn’t involve multiple registrations.

Quite so.
The one yesterday jumped from 10 to 30 upticks in about ten minutes with no-one posting comments.
I think we all know who was adept at that little trick.
And, BTW, is this a popularity contest?
How very Uniparty.

Interesting.
So far I know of that Ukrainian Nazi State backer ‘knowing’ and ‘showing’ us how to inflate thumbs up numbers, without “proving” or “showing” us how.

While he & another assure us it isn’t done via sock accounts and us being told that Dover would be let in on it (presumably to fix it because Dover didn’t know how he did it), now we’re simply left in the situation where when the mob doesn’t like their lack of thumbs up or many for those of opposing views, they simply accuse those with more thumbs up, of cheating …

… like the Clinton’s, Biden’s et al helped their guys cheat into power in the Ukraine with the help of propaganda & violent, terrorising Nazis …

… actual, eugenics preaching Nazis …

… in this age of a Global Govt enforced, drug assisted, Global eugenics experiment.

Ah, life, glorious life!
So many little boxes to unpack, packed in the Glory Box of The Bride.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 11:31 am

Of course internet bullying exists. Everyone knows that it is particularly dangerous for vulnerable children and teens. But there is no such thing as Catallaxy bullying.

Exactly Delta.
Children are both less equipped to handle it and often can’t extricate themselves from the bullying environment easily (eg school).
If you want to bitch about bullying and give-and-take stoushes, maybe this isn’t the place for you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 22, 2022 11:33 am

I’m more than happy to consider offers to assist me in the chore of moderating the forum.

Ah, yes.
But who will then moderate the deputy moderators?

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