Open Thread – Tues 29 Mar 2022


Rasputitsa, Alexei Savrasov, 1894

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Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 3:08 pm

“Sorry to see another mind lost, kneel.”

Never mind – I’m sure you’ll find yours again soon.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 3:10 pm

No I’m thinking the only way that the Dems can win and be seen to win another presidential term would be to clear off Biden, Pelosi, and Harris- in that order, with a suitable mourning period between- and ring in a cleanskin.
Michelle Obama.

Wow. That’s swinging for the stands. After 2020, they might figure it’s doable.

Struth
March 31, 2022 3:12 pm

This will always be welcomed, the trouble is that this argument is endlessly repeated even when you could see it was falling on deaf ears, at least for some. Let it go. Press the matter in another way, and possibly these same people will change their mind. If not, they were never going to be turned.

It’s not about them dover, I poke at them to show what pathetic and low people they are.
Their arguments make no sense, and they don’t care if it makes sense….you can see it directly above with choo choo.

So this is what I’d tell any upstart visitor over on the freedom blog that dared tell another visitor to fuck off that the next time they do, they’re gone.
There’s no sides picked or bias there.
We need to never back down to this shit dover, and your “all for a peaceful life” attitude this “allo allo” French cafe owner approach, is your call.

As the weeks and months progress I haven’t changed my stance on anything, and as the days go by, what was accepted as normal thinking is now offensive, extreme, and only uttered by revolutionary extremists.
You can see that.
We’ve just lost Kneel yesterday.
But my suggestion is go with the right wing option of free speech.
Go woke go broke.
Submitting to the little gang of sneerers will lose you most people, because insanity isn’t attractive, and I’ll admit it wouldn’t happen overnight, but it would happen.
Don’t let them suck you into needing to read every comment.
Just my point of view.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 3:13 pm

The US doesn’t have a great record on regime change though.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 3:14 pm

the trouble is that this argument is endlessly repeated

Dover, I don’t even know what the “argument” is any more.

Rather than make it personal, and bitterly personal at that, the real issue is the way our governments have treated all of us, regardless of our decisions.

Coercion, exclusion, punishment, incarceration, removal of the basic right to gather, to protest, face coverings, failure to provide basic education to children…the list goes on and on. While we berate each other, our disgusting rulers get away with blue murder.

Struth
March 31, 2022 3:15 pm

I’m not doing it to make a point it’s only that I don’t think it’s necessary.

You and everyone else like me who got made to do it in WA. By law.

This is what I mean dover.
Here we go again.

What was the punishment for not obeying McGowan, Choo Choo?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 3:16 pm

We’ve

Who’s ‘We,’ Struth?

Pretty sure in your world, there’s only ‘You’ and those who you permit because they purport to hang on your every utterance…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 3:17 pm

What was the punishment for not obeying McGowan, Choo Choo?

Why would I bother being honest with a mendacious dirtbag like you, Struth?

JC
JC
March 31, 2022 3:17 pm

You know, there’s no way major central banks will be able to tighten policy without causing another big debt by manufacturing a recession and or rising bond yields that would massively raise the cost of financing the national debt. This is huge pickle that only a higher inflation rate is the single least worst alternative. The huge difference between now and the GFC was that western nations weren’t walking around with so much debt.

Over time a two percent rise in bond yields would cause an extra $40 billion in interest cost as the debt is financed.

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:18 pm

callisays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:14 pm
the trouble is that this argument is endlessly repeated

Dover, I don’t even know what the “argument” is any more.

Rather than make it personal, and bitterly personal at that, the real issue is the way our governments have treated all of us, regardless of our decisions.

Coercion, exclusion, punishment, incarceration, removal of the basic right to gather, to protest, face coverings, failure to provide basic education to children…the list goes on and on. While we berate each other, our disgusting rulers get away with blue murder.

The only way to stop that Calli is to ensure that certain minor parties and\or independents hold the balance of power.

Struth
March 31, 2022 3:18 pm

Struth baby, you are no friend to anyone that you see as a means to an end…

You’re just a troll, and not a very good one.
Kneel is somebody that goes way back on catallaxy, long before you were here.
So shut up, young’n, the adults are talking.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 3:20 pm

“Struth baby, you are no friend to anyone that you see as a means to an end…”

I don’t particularly care what his motivation is – friends respect your personal choices. They might not agree with them, but they accept them and you, or they aren’t friends – just wanna-be tyrants or busy-bodies that think they know better than you what is best for you without actually being you.
If you can’t accept me for who and what I am, then on your bike, I don’t need or want you in my life – try to make sure the door doesn’t hit your arse on the way out.

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:20 pm

JCsays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:17 pm
You know, there’s no way major central banks will be able to tighten policy without causing another big debt by manufacturing a recession and or rising bond yields that would massively raise the cost of financing the national debt. This is huge pickle that only a higher inflation rate is the single least worst alternative. The huge difference between now and the GFC was that western nations weren’t walking around with so much debt.

Over time a two percent rise in bond yields would cause an extra $40 billion in interest cost as the debt is financed.

Thanks JC. The other day I saw an economic bod make the same argument. The spending is a huge gamble with our money and our lives. If it rates spike we’re all in big trouble.

Megan
Megan
March 31, 2022 3:21 pm

It’s not about them dover, I poke at them to show what pathetic and low people they are.

And exactly how helpful is this approach?

As I’ve repeated here many times…what other people think of me is none of my business. It is always…always…about something broken in them. Something I’m well aware of when I’ve been goaded triggered into an abusive or insulting rant.

It doesn’t change them but it sure as heck changes me. And not ever for the better.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 3:22 pm

Trouble is calli calling for unity only disarms one side most times.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 3:22 pm

Dover, I don’t even know what the “argument” is any more.

Rather than make it personal, and bitterly personal at that

Calli, there’s never been an ‘argument.’

I once pulled up Struth because he was spouting ignorance as Struth about the nature of rail funding in Australia, then checked his magical thinking on several occasions about how we are all going to be murdergenocided in camps. Run by the WEF.

And repeatedly smarted him because he had and still has nothing but an acid tongue and projecting his personal failings on others to back his assertions.

Remember, we are down to Struth repeatedly telling us “Well, I’m a Man, and you aren’t! Because I said so!”

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:23 pm

Zipstersays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:07 pm
John – Did you catch the one about HIV drugs working on Covid? But only the combo including a protease inhibitor.

maraviroc is the drug against covid and also works with long covid
Maraviroc inhibits SARS-CoV-2 multiplication and s-protein mediated cell fusion in cell culture

statins are also effective against long covid as fractalkine inhibitors

Zipster I noted the previous occasion you posted the statin linkage. That’s interesting because some argue the primary benefits of statins is reducing inflammation and long ago I read a study which related the function of statins as a “vitamin D analogue”.

Not interested in the other link. Preprint, not peer reviewed, not clinical.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 3:24 pm

Lol bespoke.

My experience is that the dove of peace fast becomes pigeon pie.

But at least she gets off the ground and out of the mud for a brief moment.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 3:25 pm

You’re just a troll, and not a very good one.

Only to trolls and obnoxious folks looking to start fights because they can.

It was a nice barrel-scrape, Struth. But I much preferred it when you were saying nobody was a man here except you…

Struth
March 31, 2022 3:29 pm

I don’t particularly care what his motivation is – friends respect your personal choices.

It’s not a personal choice.
You’re a father with a family.
And millions of people will suffer because men at the crucial moment, got on their knees.
I haven’t harmed anyone.
You are not a person that can say that.
Even about your own family.

They might not agree with them, but they accept them and you, or they aren’t friends – just wanna-be tyrants or busy-bodies that think they know better than you what is best for you without actually being you.

Like saying “Kneel is the one who has been sane about what has happened and not in denial….and then the great flip out of yesterday morning …YOU started

If you can’t accept me for who and what I am, then on your bike, I don’t need or want you in my life – try to make sure the door doesn’t hit your arse on the way out.

See, my conscience is clear……..it might have been difficult for you to hear, and it may have had the terrible result of making you see what you actually did TO OTHERS.
Either way, I couldn’t give a flying fuck Mater, I feel as a man to bring up the hard subjects with other men, AGAIN, not because what you have done in the past, but because there are boosters coming.
Otherwise what is done is done, and what good would it do, what could I change?
But if I stop you jabbing yourself and your kids to keep your career, I’ll give it a go.
So Su Mi

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 3:30 pm

“calli says:
March 31, 2022 at 3:14 pm “

+eleventy.

And so I have said before, many times. I’d rather not bicker about which of us did what and why – as I said, as far as I am concerned that is your personal choice.

As Calli so obviously and clearly states, it it those who would force such crap on us, against the very human rights they signed us up to 30+ years ago, that need a damn good shellacking for this debacle, regardless of the ultimate outcomes.
They must never be allowed to try this on again.
That should be our focus, and we shouldn’t let it go – ever.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:32 pm

ABC online newspaper has an article up about the Victorian government approving a 33 windmill project in Delburn Gippsland.
Battery was knocked back because of fire risk.
Must be a unique problem.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 3:33 pm

See, my conscience is clear……..it might have been difficult for you to hear, and it may have had the terrible result of making you see what you actually did TO OTHERS.

Translated Struth:

It’s really all about me.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 3:38 pm

Id think opposition to mandatory vaccination is a good reason to unify. But nope if you haven’t followed to path of the self-anointed you’re deemed unworthy as an allies.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:39 pm

Calli
If you made the pigeon pie I’m sure it was delicious.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:41 pm

Trouble here bespoke was that some people were demanding elderly people in other states at high risk from covid not get vaxxed because ‘my rights’.
As far as I was concerned their argument fell at that first hurdle.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 3:43 pm

pigeon pie

Rats with wings pie.

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:43 pm

DOT that is an interesting study that needs follow up. Keep in mind the old joke: if rodents rule end up ruling the earth they’ll thank us for curing cancer. Translation rates are very low.

Here is a fascinating issue about Metastasis, the main cause of cancer related deaths. Metastasis appears to be metabolically contingent. Cancer cells aren’t suddenly released into the bloodstream, that appears to happen on a regular basis but whether or not they will find a home in another tissue is contingent on the metabolic state of the individual(see below link @ 10.22).
The link to the talk(somewhat tedious)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk0ubr_lzo

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:44 pm

Excellent point Dover.
Especially as some carrying on the most now couldn’t have cared less about gay marriage and various other ethical issues discussed at the cat over the years.

Zipster
Zipster
March 31, 2022 3:44 pm

Zipster I noted the previous occasion you posted the statin linkage. That’s interesting because some argue the primary benefits of statins is reducing inflammation and long ago I read a study which related the function of statins as a “vitamin D analogue”.

the statin is what cleared up 90% of my long covid symptoms.

the TLDR
incelldx is the mob who were behind retrovirals for HIV. they are a medical research outfit. they looked into long covid and found certain monocytes that were glued to blood vessels with fractalkine and had S1 protein inside them over a year post covid infection. fractalkine also prevents these immune cells from undergoing apoptosis.

statins are know to be fractalkine inhibitors. they tested statins on long covid patients and the cytokine blood markers started to normalise. people got better.

long covid is caused by the persistence of S1 subunit of the spike protein.

they now have a cytokine blood panel (not available in oz) against which they prescribe various meds, predominantly statins and maraviroc.

Anyone with long covid feel free to contact dover for my email address I can send them more details.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 3:44 pm

I remember rosie.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 3:45 pm

Bruce they didn’t say it “worked”.

John – I read the article not the paper. The relevant para was this one:

After adjusting for factors that are linked with increased risk of COVID-19 including gender, age, CD4 cell count, number of people living in the household, contact with a positive COVID-19 case, the researchers found that patients in the protease inhibitor group were 70% less likely to become infected with COVID-19 compared to those in the non-PI group.

Quite a large difference. Also interesting that it was a prophylactic effect, whereas most IVM studies are on people who are already infected. Since they had patients on two types of HIV cocktail, one with and another without a protease inhibitor it seems a reasonable inference, especially as we know that other protease inhibitors have been performing (at least Pfizer seems to thinks so since they’re spruiking “Pfizermectin” keenly).

Whatever PIs those are they’re already approved by the FDA so could potentially be used off label very quickly.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 3:47 pm

“It’s not a personal choice.
You’re a father with a family.”

If you think I don’t consider such things before I make choices that affect others close to me, then you are an even sicker unit than I previously dared to suggest.

Maybe you shouldn’t have decided to lose contact with those of your family who took the jab – maybe that has done inestimable damage to your wife. Women are, after all, much more social creatures than men. But that would never occur to you, would it? You are so arrogant that even your own wife’s feelings are as nothing to you if you have a disagreement with other family members. So much for love and cherish, eh? Even your own vows, made freely before family, friends and God himself mean nothing to you. And you think to lecture me on what I should do? You expect me to take you seriously? Ah yes – of course you do. How silly of me. It is all about you, and what you feel is right, isn’t it.

You are a very sad man – I feel sorry for you. But it’s not too late. You can repair your familiar relationships and mend your wife’s broken heart – if you care enough to try.

Zipster
Zipster
March 31, 2022 3:47 pm

Trouble here bespoke was that some people were demanding elderly people in other states at high risk from covid not get vaxxed because ‘my rights’.
As far as I was concerned their argument fell at that first hurdle.

I don’t remember anyone saying this. The issue is all about informed consent. The vax are neither especially safe nor wildly effective. governments lied to us and treated us like dumb cattle that needed to be herded towards their chosen outcome.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 3:47 pm

When did man become Man? Of course, I’ve always been a capital B bear.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:48 pm

Interesting John
Have a family member with metastasised cancer for whom their treatment regime is now, for the rest of their life.
Cannot catch a break.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 3:48 pm

callisays:

March 31, 2022 at 1:52 pm

Another episode in Australia’s sh*t show of a medical system.

Can’t get in to see a doctor until Wednesday. 

And then there is this.
I had a funny “Mr Squiggle” in my eyes a couple of days ago and it returned this arvo about 2:00.
Got online booked an appointment for 3:00 because I thought it might be a v****** s*** e*****. (Not really).
Drove to town, walked straight in got scans and eye photos taken and diagnosed on the spot.
Apparently I’ve got an aura.
I know, right?
Been making “oommmmm” noises since I got home.
“Careful. Don’t bump my aura.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 3:48 pm

our disgusting rulers get away with blue murder.

They may think they will get away with it.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 3:49 pm

Zippy just because you don’t remember doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
As I recall the demands were directed at Lizzie.

Zipster
Zipster
March 31, 2022 3:51 pm
John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:52 pm

Kneelsays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:20 pm
“Struth baby, you are no friend to anyone that you see as a means to an end…”

I don’t particularly care what his motivation is – friends respect your personal choices.

An old friend of mine has multiple pathologies including COPD, probable heart failure, and other serious cardiovascular pathology. I have berated him because he won’t stop smoking and the simple fact is that if he doesn’t do that every other intervention is pushing shit uphill. Last time I spoke to him I was very blunt and he didn’t contact me for weeks so I rang him. I didn’t raise the subject again. I had made my position clear. Sometimes that’s all we can do. I know he wants to keep living, I know he is killing himself. It is not so unusual for human beings to be contradictory. To keep berating people when we’ve made our position clear is suspect because continually abusing people is not a great way to change behavior.

Not just friends, in a hopefully open society we should respect personal choices and not spend our days insulting those of differing opinions with the obvious libertarian proviso that our choices do not hurt others.

Struth
March 31, 2022 3:54 pm

I live in their heads, dover, it’s not me not letting go.
They can’t think straight, and they fill the blog day and night with Ken Worth and Bing Bong and other immature rot.
24/7.
I own them and I can’t help that.
They have done that to themselves because the truth hurts and they don’t want to hear it.
And if you don’t let the truth get heard, your blog becomes an insane asylum.
So when I come on they start dribbling and becoming obsessed.
I can well understand how it would be painful for others, but others could also do something about it as well Dover.
Too many just sit back and let me teach morons lessons and quietly uptick.

It’s not your job to provide those people with a pleasant experience.
They need to be proactive in making their own.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 3:56 pm

Bing Bong!
Self Awareness System Fail!
Bing Bong!

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 3:58 pm

Now he’s angered at his own supporters or calling for help, Sad.

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 3:59 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:45 pm
Bruce they didn’t say it “worked”.

John – I read the article not the paper. The relevant para was this one:

After adjusting for factors that are linked with increased risk of COVID-19 including gender, age, CD4 cell count, number of people living in the household, contact with a positive COVID-19 case, the researchers found that patients in the protease inhibitor group were 70% less likely to become infected with COVID-19 compared to those in the non-PI group.

Quite a large difference. Also interesting that it was a prophylactic effect, whereas most IVM studies are on people who are already infected. Since they had patients on two types of HIV cocktail, one with and another without a protease inhibitor it seems a reasonable inference, especially as we know that other protease inhibitors have been performing (at least Pfizer seems to thinks so since they’re spruiking “Pfizermectin” keenly).

Whatever PIs those are they’re already approved by the FDA so could potentially be used off label very quickly.

Sorry Bruce. The PIs are though is very vague, ya think they could have mentioned those in the news report. Still, the authors caution against extrapolation and call it a preliminary study. Ya also think they would have the decency to provide a study link!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:00 pm

I live in their heads, dover, it’s not me not letting go.

Struth is the only man in this entire parade who is in step, Dover.

He said so.

You’d better believe him or else!

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 4:00 pm

GreyRangasays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:48 pm
our disgusting rulers get away with blue murder.

They may think they will get away with it.

They are getting away with it. Not something new under the sun. It’s a strange thing this democracy.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 4:01 pm

“Self Awareness System Fail!”

That implies sentience and intelligence – perhaps not the most likely of assumptions in this case.
Not that you’re wrong to point it out, just sayin’…

Zipster
Zipster
March 31, 2022 4:02 pm

Not one government is rushing doing anything urgent about long covid. why?

long covid is the persistence of S1 spike protein trapped in various parts of the body driving metabolic and immune dysfunction.

the gov solution to covid is to turn us all into spike protein factories.

well gee I can see some cognitive dissonance in the heads of the elites trying to reconcile these two facts.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 4:04 pm

“I can see some cognitive dissonance in the heads of the elites trying to reconcile these two facts.”

Ya think?
They’re way too busy trying to keep their job to actually do their job – and that is unlikely to change any time soon.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 4:06 pm

Despite being in a medical rehab place patients here are still permitted to smoke, albeit on the footpath outside, like most public hospitals. I remain unjabbed and had a couple of conversations with a nurse and once with the GP. At the end of the day that is what I would expect to happen. I used to ride a motorcycle which placed me at greater risk than maybe 90% of the population. We had a spinal rehab place near us filled with guys in bike T-shirts. Once you start it is harder to draw the line.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 4:07 pm

Ya also think they would have the decency to provide a study link!

Probably because the paper hasn’t been presented yet: the conference is not until 23-26 Apr.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 4:09 pm

Kneel et al:

While the bombs themselves killed many, how many more would have died had it not been used, and the home islands had needed to be invaded? I shudder to think of the cost in lives that would have resulted. So perhaps, in that case, the bombs actually reduced loss of life.

Tom Lewis: Atomic Salvation.
I think I ran the link through the Catallaxy shop, but check first.
Top Ender does a stirling job of the context necessary to understand how correct the bombings were.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:09 pm

WHITE HOUSE
Will Kamala Harris rank as one of the worst VPs in history?

BY MERRILL MATTHEWS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR – 03/29/22 3:30 PM ET
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT OF THE HILL

While it is still early in her tenure – so there’s a chance she’ll make a comeback – let’s just say those future assessments of Vice President Kamala Harris’s job performance will likely not be kind.

It’s remarkable, since the U.S. Constitution gives the vice president almost no duties to fail at — and yet failing she is.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:11 pm

Always remember Mater, I didn’t start this, you did yesterday.

Maybe you shouldn’t have decided to lose contact with those of your family who took the jab – maybe that has done inestimable damage to your wife.

What? I haven’t lost contact with anybody!

Women are, after all, much more social creatures than men. But that would never occur to you, would it?

No shit Einstein.
It’s not sociable, because they are not, they are socially competitive….big difference.

You are so arrogant that even your own wife’s feelings are as nothing to you if you have a disagreement with other family members. So much for love and cherish, eh? Even your own vows, made freely before family, friends and God himself mean nothing to you.

My relationship is fine and my wife loves me more than ever for talking her parents, mine and her out of the jab……we have grown closer if that’s possible, so ease up on the delusion of what you want to be true and what is…..

And you think to lecture me on what I should do? You expect me to take you seriously? Ah yes – of course you do. How silly of me. It is all about you, and what you feel is right, isn’t it.

I’m not lecturing you, I’m seeing MEN making decisions to the detriment of others, including their families.
You confuse submitting to your missus as love for your missus when the reverse is true.
All of this has nothing to do with me, but you brought it all up.

But where I find anyone anywhere claiming the jab is a personal decision that effects no one else, they will get told straight.
Especially men who should have known what to do.
And especially when there are boosters coming.
Let them stick those boosters in your kids Mater, and your life will be a misery every day, because you’ll never know what you did by letting it happen.
I know you’re a decent bloke.
This sort of talk would be wasted on the likes of Choo Choo.
You don’t want that hanging over your head for the rest of your life.
Otherwise, you’re liable to have sudden outbursts of insanity, blaming all and sundry for not understanding your heroic actions

You are a very sad man – I feel sorry for you. But it’s not too late. You can repair your familiar relationships and mend your wife’s broken heart – if you care enough to try.

You’re getting very KD there.
Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:13 pm

Always remember Mater

Mater’s back?

Since when?

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 4:14 pm

Periodization for Bodybuilding

Dot, Cohenite: ever tried periodization training? I’m currently thinking about shifting my training to a low rep(5) and low set(12-15 per muscle per week) with high intensity routine because I’m sticking on a few exercises.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:17 pm

Kneel got mixed up with another, No big deal since both use the same tactics.

rosie
rosie
March 31, 2022 4:17 pm

The other thing that makes the constant beration pointless is this

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:19 pm

Let them stick those boosters in your kids Mater, and your life will be a misery every day, because you’ll never know what you did by letting it happen.

Your child took the vaxxxxxxxx, did he not? Despite all your best efforts. As such, has your entire series of tirades at Kneel not just been another exercise in mean-spirited projection?

I know you’re a decent bloke. This sort of talk would be wasted on the likes of Choo Choo.

You’ve been listening to Bird whinge and rage over at the Furniture Store because I’ve repeatedly poked tremendous fun at his magical thinking, too.

Nuffies of a feather, and all that… 🙂

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 4:19 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

My God. Indescribable incompetence AND malice on the part of the brass, which is unsurprising, and equally tremendous hubris on Chalker’s part.
This is unsurvivable.

Another example of the growing chasm between the rulers and ruled.
At no time was the leadership portion of the role of the administration ever put into the equation.
It was all about the political maneuvering and the promotion aspect.
No consideration was ever given to the community role of the police force.
Robert Peel would turn away in disgust.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 4:20 pm

“Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.”

Perhaps you could reflect on that with respect to your own posts.

“…Mater…”
If you think I have previously posted under that moniker, then you are badly mistaken.
I will state unequivocally that I have only ever posted here and at the old Cat using my current moniker.
If Dover would care to check, there would only be a handful of IP’s that I post from, and I doubt very much any of them would match any other posters (at least that I am aware of!)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:20 pm

Can We Take Three More Years of Biden?
by John Kass

President Joe Biden was babbling dangerously during his recent trip to Poland to shore up the NATO alliance against Russia’s murderous invasion of Ukraine. And as he babbled and babbled, his White House staff poured sawdust on the puddles and tried cleaning it up again and again.

The man just would not stop.

Biden’s wide-open mouth was a firehose of senile anger, shooting out a torrent of unfocused danger. His words won’t shorten the conflict, but will likely prolong the suffering of the Ukrainian people. His babbling strengthens Vladimir Putin in Russia, while dragging America and the rest of the world ever closer to nuclear confrontation.

Democrats once talked glibly of the 25th Amendment to remove a Republican president, who they insisted was incompetent and alleged without evidence that he was a pro-Russian traitor. He wasn’t any of those things. They simply hated him. But they did have the corrupt legacy corporate media behind them as their echo chamber.

They’re not talking 25th Amendment now, are they? Not with one of their own in the White House, a man they installed because their Wall Street guys and the banks were afraid they’d lose if Vermont Socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders were nominated. And still Joe Biden babbles and barks and shouts like an angry old man losing control. And sends all that spittle to fleck their faces.

And Hunter Biden, the president’s son, finds that he has cast himself in a mold of his own making, as a bagman in Ukraine, China and elsewhere.

You know what a bagman is, don’t you?

It’s not all that complicated. A bagman goes on errands with an empty empty bag. It doesn’t stay empty long. By the time the errands are done, the bag is full, and “the boss,” or, “The Big Guy,” if you prefer, smiles in satisfaction.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:22 pm

And the winner of the Cans Vs bottle debate.

It was a draw:

Cans and graders.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 4:23 pm
calli
calli
March 31, 2022 4:24 pm

What about pigeons vs. doves?

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:27 pm

Graders, calli.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:30 pm

Almost forgot about that photo of you Dover and C.L, calli.

Good times.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:31 pm

So kiddies.
The main points today.
What have we learned?
Weak men create hard times.
(cheeky aren’t I, we knew that prior to 2020)

That claiming your decision as fathers and men of a nation to get on your knees to tyranny is no one else’s business and impacts no one else is horseshit.
To claim it as heroic is insanity of the highest order.
When submission involves being jabbed with something that has already killed thousands and is expected to kill many more than that, than your responsibilities as a man mean you must stand up against it to save others, especially when it’s your family.
Does being a man matter?
All of a sudden it matters again in the Ukraine.
Our responsibilities as men do not stop in peacetime.
And I’d argue that what we have experienced in the last two years, is not peace.

We have also learned that we still must discuss these issues because boosters are coming.
You can’t submit and hope it all goes away.
They’ll kill your family.
That’s what they’ll do, and weak men will let them.

But here’s the most important thing we’ve learned today, and it’s from Kneel.
Even if the jab doesn’t kill your children, allowing your wife, your school teacher or anyone else to jab them will haunt you for the rest of your life.
What has happened to us is pure evil.
Children will die and are dying now.
The only way men will be able to live with themselves is to twist reality so far our civilisation will be gone in a flash.
I must admit, what has happened is pure evil, but they studied what would happen and they waited until we were soft enough.
It’s amazing to watch the minds being lost.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:31 pm

Graders, calli.

Scrapers.

But only because this blog needs to be reminded of what a proper stoush looks like… 😉

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:32 pm

Why was Tom not in it?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:32 pm

Hunter Biden, the New York Times, and the Coming Impeachment

Why did the Times confess their error on the laptop story? Who knows? But it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to know they’re up to no good.

The Sherlock Holmes question of the week is: Why did the New York Times finally admit that the Hunter Biden laptop was genuine? Here are five possible answers:

1) Roger Kimball suggests it’s a prelude to Joe Biden’s own people removing him from the Oval Office. The laptop clearly indicates that Biden is corrupt, as many said during the 2020 presidential campaign. That “fact” has to be established, and now it has been, albeit in paragraph 17 or 22 or 35 of a long article that many people will never read. It’s now a matter of record in what used to be called “the newspaper of record”—but is now, truthfully, just another sleazy hack political rag.

Kimball’s thesis requires multiple steps, which makes it unlikely. Before “they” can dump Biden, “Kamala [Harris] will have to be dealt with first,” says Kimball. They need to dispose of her the way the Democrats had to dispose of Vice President Spiro Agnew before they could get rid of President Nixon.

How are they going to do that? Actually, it’s probably not so difficult: Harris almost certainly has enough baggage in her past to kill an elephant.

Some people, perhaps many people, lost friends when they claimed that the 2020 election was stolen. Their former friends said there simply wasn’t enough evidence to support that claim.

But how do we know—or rather, how do they know? If you ask them, they will tell you only what they have read or heard from the media, media that we know now (well, we knew it all along) are dishonest: we know that because that is the import of the New York Times’s confession of error. The awful truth is that you, Mr. and Mrs. America, wherever you are, have no idea whether the election was honest or not, because your only way of determining that is by what you read and hear from the media—which is shamefully dishonest and was totally in the bag for Joe Biden.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:32 pm

You sounded very much like Mater….and to think, I was holding back because of it!

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 4:33 pm

Ruh roh. Man has become MEN. Lucky I don’t wear pants and can do a quick check without people noticing.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:33 pm

Scrapers are in the same family, Rex.

Franx
Franx
March 31, 2022 4:36 pm

Detention camps are still not off the cards.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:37 pm

Chicken-Hawk Kyiv

Though we have the might to meet force with force, Ukraine’s fight is not our own. We have no land to conquer and no victory to attain.

The march to war with Russia is a retreat from decency and a rush to destruction. The march, all drums and no fifes, is no ordinary call-and-response, because no response is possible in a march to the death; because no president has the right to speed up the march to a war that cannot be won and must never be fought. But Joe Biden speaks like no other president regarding Russia, personalizing the political and insulting the president of Russia: isolating Vladimir Putin, or insisting that we can and should isolate him, as we decimate Russia’s economy for the sake of Ukraine and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s honor.

Unless Biden halts the march and silences himself, signaling an end to acts of affectation and affection, unless he no longer wraps himself in sanctimony or wears the blue and yellow, unless he urges his supporters to do likewise and leave their Ukrainian ribbons and pins at home, such flag-waving will remain a rite of the red carpet and ceremony—including the ceremonial moment of silence among the rich and famous. It will continue, unbroken even by Will Smith’s violence and heckling.

Unless Biden starts speaking to himself in private, not because he hears voices but because he voices opinions best spoken in private, unless he stops treating his stammer by speaking in public, his words serve no purpose except to antagonize Putin and accelerate the path to war; for what Biden says about Putin is what a president says about an enemy he knows he can defeat, or what a prime minister says about an enemy he knows he must defeat if the life of the world is to survive. Putin is not that enemy.

Though we have the might to meet force with force, Zelenskyy’s fight is not our own.

We have no land to conquer and no victory to attain.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:37 pm

Apart from being frustrated with whats going on, no nothing like Mater.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:40 pm

Apart from being frustrated with whats going on, no nothing like Mater.

Exactly the same scenario as Mater.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:42 pm

Scrapers are in the same family, Rex.

No, they’re not…*

😉

* If in doubt, resort to Python!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:43 pm

Cutting Through the Noise in Ukraine

You don’t have to be a Putin apologist to find fault with Western narratives on Ukraine. American interests depend on appreciating the bigger picture.

Despite the initial fog of war having receded as Russia’s invasion slowly but steadily advances, an onslaught of overwhelmingly pro-Ukraine narratives in traditional and online media has made it difficult for a disinterested observer to ascertain an accurate picture.

Attempting to present a united front, Western leaders and media have coalesced around a narrative largely indistinguishable from Ukraine’s own. That narrative places Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at center stage as he implores the world to defend Ukraine from what he says is not just an assault on his country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, but also an attack upon the foundations of liberal democracy and its attendant values. While this paints a compelling and emotionally resonant picture for many, a closer examination reveals a canvas with a much murkier picture, one that we must examine closely and carefully in order to determine how to best advance the American national interest in this consequential geopolitical moment.

Let’s begin with Zelenskyy, liberal democracy’s arbiter of the hour.

As might have been predicted considering his having received such open support from Kolomoisky, Zelenskyy’s efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine, which is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe, haven’t amounted to much more than a bad joke.

This questionable collision of Zelenskyy’s political and business interests became all the more troublesome for Zelenskyy in October, when the Pandora Papers revealed Zelenskyy, Bakanov, and Shefir maintain a complex network of offshore shell companies together which appear to have deep links to entities controlled by Zelenskyy’s biggest political benefactor, Ihor Kolomoisky. Since Zelenskyy’s election, Kolomoisky has been sanctioned by the United States for “involvement in significant corruption” such as stealing billions of dollars from the Ukrainian bank that he owned

Despite claims that Zelenskyy has united Ukraine, Ukraine remains an ethno-linguistically divided country that, since 2014, has been in a state of conflict with some of its own citizens in the East Ukraine where two separatist republics declared independence and a significant percentage of the population is not just Russian-speaking, but ethnically Russian. When Putin launched his war effort, he declared that he sought to secure the independence of these separatist regions, to secure Russia’s claims to Crimea, and to demilitarize and “denazify” Ukraine.

As far as Putin’s claims about the presence of Nazis in Ukraine, while there is likely no small amount of cynicism in Putin’s decision to employ this terminology as part of his propaganda war. Yet a central player in the conflict in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 has been the Azov Battalion, whose members still prominently display symbols associated with the German Third Reich on their uniforms, and has no shortage of members who openly espouse an eliminationist variety of Ukrainian nationalism, which has caused no small amount of embarrassment to some of Ukraine’s Western defenders.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:43 pm

Not shocking that others are in the same circumstance. Only to the small minded.

Delta A
Delta A
March 31, 2022 4:45 pm

twostixsays:
March 31, 2022 at 2:11 pm

Hyperbole on steroids.

It’s ludicrous that this Libertarian/Centre right blog is the site of civil war: the Unjabbed vs the Jabbed. WHAT DOES IT MATTER?* What right does anyone have to judge another’s medical status and decisions? Who – apart from a small, frenzied cohort – gives a damn?

The nauseatingly righteous Unjabbed are the instigators, posting endless abuse to which the ‘doomed’ Jabbed retort. From there, it goes on and on for bleeding ever.

ENOUGH!** Just acknowledge that all pixels are different and shut the hell up! There’s a multitude of
respectable and respectful Cats who post interesting and discussion-worthy topics which are lost in pathetic schoolyard antics. Make The Cat Great again!

* Thanks for the discount capitals, Sancho. What a bargain!

** That’s the last of them, I promise.

PS: Can someone help me dismount from my high horse?

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
March 31, 2022 4:46 pm

Sancho, what you had is a form of migraine. I get them too and most of the time without the pain that a lot of migraine sufferers get. If you get it again the best thing to do is get into a dark room until it goes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 4:47 pm

Scrapers are for people who lack the skills to drive graders.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:47 pm

PS: Can someone help me dismount from my high horse?

Ill fetch the grader, Delta and be right there.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:48 pm

PS: Can someone help me dismount from my high horse?

All good, Delta,

You can drop when ready… 🙂

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 4:48 pm

Boambee John:

To the extent that they still be there, they have probably been “maintained” into unservicability. The US services take nuclear weapons security seriously, and would ensure that Erdogan couldn’t become an instant nuclear power.

You make a valid point – nuclear weapons must be maintained to keep them servicable – the ‘booster’ either Helium 3 or Lithium something*, needs to be replenished each year**.
However, the Uranium can be removed from the warhead and fashioned into a new weapon. That’s where the danger lies – in remade/refurbished unmaintained weaponry.
Even a ‘fizzer’ where the secondary stages don’t work properly are still capable of of tactical yields.

*, **, running off memory here. I understand putting a Lithium core in a secondary stage of a nuke boosts the yield similarly to Tritium due to the radiation converting the Lithium into Hydrogen isotopes.
OK, I cheated here: The nukes in Turkey are the B61 variant according to Wikipaedia.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 4:48 pm

Why was Tom not in it?

Busy attending to a troll.

By the way, that’s C.L. in the middle. I’m the thin one.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 4:49 pm

Scrapers are for people who lack the skills to drive graders.

And make the bulldozer operators feel needed and special at construction sites…

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 4:49 pm

Scrapers are for people who lack the skills to drive graders.

Suck up! but a just one, Bear.

Delta A
Delta A
March 31, 2022 4:51 pm

Delta Asays:
March 31, 2022 at 4:45 pm

Having said all that, I must say that some of the insults fired from both sides have been very witty. Keep it up, but on an a different battlefield please.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
March 31, 2022 4:52 pm

Media Knives Come Out For Investigative Journalist John Solomon After Trump Interview

Corporate media knives are out for investigative reporter John Solomon after his recent interview with former President Donald Trump went viral.

In multiple articles about the interview, news outlets like Business Insider, Politico, and the Week belittled the award-winning journalist, describing him as “discredited” “disowned,” and “far-right.”

Solomon has reported for the Associated Press, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, and the Hill, among others news outlets.

Yovanovitch was not the innocent nonpartisan professional the corporate media pretended she was during the Democrats’ first impeachment trial of President Trump.

“There are five witnesses who say that she instructed the prosecutor general of Ukraine to dismiss four cases,” he added. “Two of those cases involved Ukrainian collusion with Democrats to hurt Donald Trump. One of them involved a company owned by George Soros. There are five witnesses who are willing to testify to that. None of them were called. None of them were interviewed.”

Solomon reported at the Hill in April of 2019 that Ukrainian law enforcement officials believed they had evidence of wrongdoing by American Democrats and their allies in Kiev, “ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes,” but they were thwarted by U.S. embassy in Kiev (led by Yovanovitch), which refused to provide Ukrainian prosecutors with visas so they could deliver their evidence to Washington.

Tucker Carlson noted at the time that it looked like “the Biden people haven’t forgotten” that John Solomon exposed Mueller’s “lie of omission” that “helped prop up the collusion hoax.”

Meanwhile, the probe into Hunter Biden’s business dealings, led by the US Attorney in Wilmington, Delaware, has reportedly “intensified” in recent weeks, “with discussions among Justice Department officials about the strength of the case, and whether more work is needed before seeking a decision on possible charges.”

And despite Business Insider’s claim to the contrary, Fox News has not “cut ties” with Solomon. The reporter to this day remains a frequent guest on the network.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:54 pm

t’s ludicrous that this Libertarian/Centre right blog is the site of civil war: the Unjabbed vs the Jabbed. WHAT DOES IT MATTER?* What right does anyone have to judge another’s medical status and decisions? Who – apart from a small, frenzied cohort – gives a damn?

Obviously a slow learner.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 4:56 pm

rugbyskiersays:
March 31, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Sancho, what you had is a form of migraine. I get them too and most of the time without the pain that a lot of migraine sufferers get. If you get it again the best thing to do is get into a dark room until it goes.

Same for me, mine seems to be caused by c3-c4 displacement. I usually don’t get more than one symptom at a time, aura, light sensitivity, very rarely pain.

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:57 pm

Delta wants to get on with life as if nothing’s happened.
Think about that for a minute.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 4:57 pm

If Mater wished to return incognito, none of us would recognise him, least of all by his IP. All we would sense is a lingering fragrance of ozone, and a smoking patch where an insulter’s avatar once stood.

I watched Kingsman for the first time the other night and now I’m picturing him as a Harry Hart. Before the eyepatch.

😀

Struth
March 31, 2022 4:58 pm

Same for me, mine seems to be caused by c3-c4 displacement. I usually don’t get more than one symptom at a time, aura, light sensitivity, very rarely pain.

With you, I’d suggest a laxative.

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 4:59 pm

Delta can always give herself a heart attack or go into a decline wishing things were different and yelling at clouds and bushes.

And be completely useless to both herself and her family in the process.

Franx
Franx
March 31, 2022 4:59 pm

Delta A, I would say that jabbing matters because the jabbing is not just about the jab but also about the tyranny that has given rise to the jab and the tyrannic grip that the jab tightens.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:00 pm

rugbyskiersays:

March 31, 2022 at 4:46 pm

Sancho, what you had is a form of migraine. I get them too and most of the time without the pain that a lot of migraine sufferers get. If you get it again the best thing to do is get into a dark room until it goes

Thanks rugbyskier.
Yes, the eye-guy said that.
It is precisely the same cause.
Migraine sufferers get this affect as a pre-cursor to the migraine.
Others get the weird “aura” effects and it doesn’t progress to the migraine.
Fortunately I am in the latter group.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 5:01 pm

Maters work here is done. At least until the ‘Woomba Miata Helldrivers AGM. Then all bets are off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:02 pm

Ignore the second opinion Ranga.
The white coat means nothing.
He’s a fake couch doctor.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:04 pm

Struthsays:

March 31, 2022 at 4:57 pm

Delta wants to get on with life …

As is her right you control freak.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:05 pm

I’ll take Delta’s courage, good humour and resilience in the face of adversity over a few of the sooky la-las here all day long.

Dot
Dot
March 31, 2022 5:06 pm
Dot
Dot
March 31, 2022 5:07 pm

Farmers who don’t deliver wheat quota have been threatened with jail

Eat the bugs, sell your wheat, sleep in the pod!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 5:07 pm

John H.says:
March 31, 2022 at 4:00 pm
GreyRangasays:
March 31, 2022 at 3:48 pm
our disgusting rulers get away with blue murder.

They may think they will get away with it.

They are getting away with it. Not something new under the sun. It’s a strange thing this democracy.

As I commented a while ago not one shot has been fired back in retribution, yet.

Dot
Dot
March 31, 2022 5:09 pm

Dot, Cohenite: ever tried periodization training?

Yes. It absolutely works, you need to be patient.

Dot
Dot
March 31, 2022 5:10 pm

I never backed down on the idiocy of gay ‘marriage’, etc. even though many on the older Cat voted for it.

Dude.

I never voted for it.

Why would I vote on something with my name and a barcode on it?

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 5:14 pm

Dotsays:
March 31, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Dot, Cohenite: ever tried periodization training?

Yes. It absolutely works, you need to be patient.

Thanks.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 31, 2022 5:15 pm

Not interested in the other link. Preprint, not peer reviewed, not clinical.

Most of the climate science papers are “peer reviewed” too. Doesn’t stop them being bullshit.
Peer review is highly over rated.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 31, 2022 5:16 pm

“Aura” aka “visual migraine”. Not uncommon apparently.

Delta A
Delta A
March 31, 2022 5:23 pm

Delta wants to get on with life as if nothing’s happened.
Think about that for a minute.

No.

Delta acknowledges the sneaky politics involved in the covid scam: the fear tactics, the promotion of helplessness and the mass modification of behaviour which has turned a large percentage of the population into obedient serfs – or righteous Karens.

Delta is involved (to the extent of her capabilities) in protesting this, her family actively in protests, including the biggie a while back.

What else would you have us do, Struth? Arm the children? Assassinate a few CHOs and pollies? Spell it out, for goodness sake!

Brislurker
Brislurker
March 31, 2022 5:25 pm

Interesting 3 mins from Senator Alex Antic. Very precise and to the point. As it is presented in parliament it is officially recorded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURXCYffBOs

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 31, 2022 5:28 pm

Franxsays:
March 31, 2022 at 4:59 pm
Delta A, I would say that jabbing matters because the jabbing is not just about the jab but also about the tyranny that has given rise to the jab and the tyrannic grip that the jab tightens.

Yes. That’s in part why I’m still unvaxxed, so as not to appear to acquiesce in the tyranny (but only part – no heroism claims in this). But it’s becoming increasingly obvious that that’s a futile gesture.

According to Victorian government stats (yes, I know) 95.8% of “eligible” (12 and over) Victorians are double jabbed. It’s crystal clear from Maximum Leader’s behaviour that he believes he can write off the 4.2% for all political purposes (which is all he cares about). Or maybe worse – he may think that the Frankenstein’s monster of the covid-hysterical Karen voter demographic would rise up against him if he eased up on the unvaxxed.
The stats (yes I know) also say that 65.6% of 18+ Victorians have taken a booster, and there doesn’t seem to be any mass outrage about the idea of boosters. Uptake is slow and there’s a chance, but only a chance, that Maximum Leader will baulk at the political risk of introducing a comprehensive booster mandate, but in fact if he doesn’t then the general public apathy about vaxx mandates will probably become even more entrenched.
And friends, family and work colleagues who know I’m unvaxxed are not argumentative, but aren’t in any way up in arms because I’m subject to restrictions, clearly not thinking that there’s anything wrong with the government denying basic freedoms to people who don’t want to be experimented on. And that seems to be a very general attitude.
So the chances of the unvaxxed being freed here are very, very low at least for the foreseeable future.
The anti mandate battle is lost here in Victoria. Me remaining unvaxxed is not going to change public opinion – anyone’s opinion in fact – or the government’s mind.

Obviously it goes against the grain to get experimented on just because a ghastly little turd like Maximum Leader is abusing power to punish me if I continue not to do it. Plus there are other considerations in my case. So I haven’t yet decided whether to get Novavax or not. But struth’s rantings are inclining me towards getting it simply to avoid becoming a deranged wacko psycho weirdo freako intergalactic macro-frootloop dingaling “last Japanese soldier in the jungle” about the issue.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:32 pm

dover0beachsays:

March 31, 2022 at 5:24 pm

What else would you have us do, Struth? Arm the children? Assassinate a few CHOs and pollies? Spell it out, for goodness sake!

No, no, please don’t.

Ah, yes.
Best not.
At best it will just cause the Cardigan Commando platoon to reform.
And we do not want that.
Do we?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 31, 2022 5:32 pm

So long as you don’t go all Pete Evans about it, who cares. Never go full Pete Evans.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 31, 2022 5:33 pm

Obviously it goes against the grain to get experimented on just because a ghastly little turd like Maximum Leader is abusing power to punish me if I continue not to do it. Plus there are other considerations in my case. So I haven’t yet decided whether to get Novavax or not.

You need to do some serious reading, after which you’ll run a mile when anyone approaches with the needle.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 5:34 pm

Bruce of Newcastle:

I was reading about the Demon Core the other day. Interesting stuff. It was to be the 3rd bomb, then was used for testwork when no longer required. Modern OH&S people would have terminal hysterics about what the guys were doing with it.

Even people like myself who believe the OH&S cabal have lost the plot, believe these blokes were idiots of the first degree.

rickw
rickw
March 31, 2022 5:35 pm

Scrapers are for people who lack the skills to drive graders.

Freaking grader drivers…..

Rabz
March 31, 2022 5:35 pm

just because my circumstances have allowed me to remain un jabbed does not make me a hero and does not rule out getting it if those circumstances change

That’s where we differ, bespoke. I will not be taking any of the useless toxic concoctions ever, under any circumstances. They will have to hold me down.

Never even considered taking them given I’d never taken a flu vax and it became very clear very quickly (i.e. March 2020), that bat flu was no worse than the former.

However, the more those stupid stinking fascist f*ckwits tried to coerce people into taking them, the more I arced up, dug the heels in and loudly told them, f*ck you, I won’t do what you told me.

Agreed, that doesn’t make me any kind of hero, just a crotchety cynical contrary b’stard, which I can live with.

Calli – I couldn’t agree more with your observation above – the deadsh*ts responsible for this monstrous fascist idiocy are the ones we should be directing our well justified anger at. I for one, will never forgive or forget and I intend to see that they bloody well are held accountable, no matter how long that might take (or whatever “innovative” methods might need to be employed to ensure this). I have a memory like an elephant and I’ve have never forgiven anyone who’s ever f*cked me over, especially in the manner I was f*cked over during the last two years.

They will pay.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 31, 2022 5:36 pm

Preprint, not peer reviewed

Isn’t “peer reviewed” code for “my mates read it”?

John H.
John H.
March 31, 2022 5:38 pm

Eyriesays:
March 31, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Not interested in the other link. Preprint, not peer reviewed, not clinical.

Most of the climate science papers are “peer reviewed” too. Doesn’t stop them being bullshit.
Peer review is highly over rated.

Over rated by whom? I’ve read Ioannidis, Cohen, McCloskey.
What’s the alternative? Do you propose we sink into a mire of relativism and decide no amount of research is ever sufficient for practical purposes? If not, how do we avoid that? Wishful thinking? Confirmation bias? The availability heuristic?

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 31, 2022 5:38 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
March 31, 2022 at 1:13 pm
They might have been swapped out for something non-fissile, but mildly radioactive?

The excuse that the warheads at Incirlik airbase had to be rejuvenated would be an elegant way to get them out of reach of sticky little Turkish fingers.

The Turks might insist on a one-for-one replacement, but those could have been rendered inoperable.

rickw
rickw
March 31, 2022 5:40 pm

And friends, family and work colleagues who know I’m unvaxxed are not argumentative, but aren’t in any way up in arms because I’m subject to restrictions, clearly not thinking that there’s anything wrong with the government denying basic freedoms to people who don’t want to be experimented on. And that seems to be a very general attitude.

Try getting fired for being unvaxxed to find out just how deep the Marxism runs in Victoria.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:41 pm

Bing Bong!
Warning. We have scrapers vs graders fight to the death.
Bing Bong!

Struth
March 31, 2022 5:43 pm

Obviously it goes against the grain to get experimented on just because a ghastly little turd like Maximum Leader is abusing power to punish me if I continue not to do it. Plus there are other considerations in my case. So I haven’t yet decided whether to get Novavax or not. But struth’s rantings are inclining me towards getting it simply to avoid becoming a deranged wacko psycho weirdo freako intergalactic macro-frootloop dingaling “last Japanese soldier in the jungle” about the issue.

So much easier to submit when you can blame others.

95% of Victorians are vaxxed.

You know the Easter bunny is real as well.
Look in the mirror.

It’s why I am here.
Because we can see the mental decline even on those of the right.
“There will come a time when the world goes mad and the one who doesn’t will be seen as insane”

We knew all this and people here would quote sayings like that.
And now we see it happening before our very eyes.
Our very once right wing eyes.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 5:44 pm

Warning. We have scrapers vs graders fight to the death.

Winner gets pushed out of the ring by the bulldozer?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 5:44 pm

So the chances of the unvaxxed being freed here are very, very low at least for the foreseeable future.
The anti mandate battle is lost here in Victoria.

The new Liars’ government in SA rather amazingly has dropped such things like a hot potato.

South Australia announces change to vaccine mandates: Unvaccinated teachers, transport staff to be allowed back to work (30 Mar)

Unvaccinated teachers, school staff and passenger transport workers in South Australia will be allowed to return to the job within hours.

South Australia’s Police Commissioner Grant Stevens on Wednesday announced a change to vaccine mandates in the state that will take effect from midnight.

“The two that are being revoked at midnight are the education sector and the passenger transport workers sector,” Mr Stevens said.

“Also affected by this are the maritime workers who currently have a direction in place that prevents them from getting onto an international vessel arriving in South Australian waters unless they’re vaccinated.

The common thread seems to be the union rank and file. It cannot have escaped the ALP that lots of union members are unvaccinated and are quite militant about it, no matter what the Setkas all say.

At the same time there’re more and more people just ignoring this rubbish.

Mandatory Vax Refuseniks: Just 14 Per Cent of Unjabbed Greeks Have Paid Punishment Fines (30 Mar)

Of the over 300,000 Greeks who have been fined by the Greek tax authority for being unvaccinated in contravention of the mandatory order, just 14 per cent have actually paid their fines by the deadline.

A total of 317,962 Greeks over the age of 60 have been notified by the Greek tax agency to pay the €50 fine for the month of January when the government implemented its vaccine mandate for all residents above 60 years old.

According to the Independent Authority for Public Revenue (AADE), however, only 44,000 people have actually paid the fine by the deadline of March 15th, just 14 per cent of the total, and those with outstanding fines could face additional penalties, newspaper Ekathimerini reports.

And that’s only 50 euros, whereas countries like Austria was about to start fining them thousands. That abomination has also recently been dumped.

The tea leaves appear to be saying that governments everywhere are frantic to make this stuff go away, and having a lot of people sidelined because of unvaccinated would just pick at the sore continually. So to make it all go away they have to remove all restrictions, declare victory and hope the proles forget about it all. It’s that or Nuremberg revenge, formally or Romanian-style, which the the pollies and the CHOs rather dislike the idea of.

Struth
March 31, 2022 5:46 pm

Thank you Rabz.
I know you don’t think much of me but it was nice to read some sanity there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:46 pm

Try getting fired for being unvaxxed to find out just how deep the Marxism runs in Victoria.

And the anger needs to be directed right where it belongs.
At the feet of Dan Xi Man.
Not at people who made a personal health decision to get vaxxed on medical advice or their own research.
I simply refuse to buy the argument that I somehow need to compromise my freedom of choice and take a risk to ease the pressure on someone else.
And the abuse served up here on a daily basis by a couple of self-styled “pure-bloods” has done nothing but harden that attitude.
Winning friends and influencing people … not.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 5:46 pm

It’s why I am here.

You’re only here coz no one anywhere else with the exception of Faulty will put up with you.

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 5:47 pm

scrapers vs graders fight

If came to that.

Woodstock cans win.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 31, 2022 5:48 pm

Standing ovation for Zelensky in the parliament.
I’m old enough to remember the support Saddam received when they attacked Iran.
Decry war by all means but don’t pretend the it’s a cowboy movie with black hats and white hats.
Juvenile aping of American cheerleaders unbefitting a Westminster parliament.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 5:48 pm

It’s why I am here.

And now we see it happening before our very eyes.
Our very once right wing eyes

And he shall benevolently lead us benighted masses into the sunlit uplands of all Struth…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 31, 2022 5:49 pm

Struthsays:

March 31, 2022 at 5:46 pm

Thank you Rabz.
I know you don’t think much of me but it was nice to read some sanity there.

What do you think was meant by:-

Calli – I couldn’t agree more with your observation above – the deadsh*ts responsible for this monstrous fascist idiocy are the ones we should be directing our well justified anger at.

Struth
March 31, 2022 5:51 pm

And friends, family and work colleagues who know I’m unvaxxed are not argumentative, but aren’t in any way up in arms because I’m subject to restrictions, clearly not thinking that there’s anything wrong with the government denying basic freedoms to people who don’t want to be experimented on. And that seems to be a very general attitude.

Certainly is here.
As a matter of fact here, you’re a lazy bum and a coward for not taking the vax and losing your jobs etc.
On a once right wing blog.

Struth
March 31, 2022 5:52 pm

And he shall benevolently lead us benighted masses into the sunlit uplands of all Struth…

No hope for you two dicks

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 5:54 pm

No hope for you two dicks

Just as well, for Struth is not the Messiah…

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 5:54 pm

Grey Ranga:

I also thought it strange the idea of giving any muzzie country atomic weapons as they are likely to go muzzie at any time.

It was a political decision, GR – not an intelligent one.

Kneel
Kneel
March 31, 2022 5:56 pm

“With you, I’d suggest a laxative.”

Still trying to escape the womb, eh?

Struth
March 31, 2022 5:56 pm

You’re only here coz no one anywhere else with the exception of Faulty will put up with you.

Looks like you better take another laxative before you choke.

Delta A
Delta A
March 31, 2022 5:58 pm

Delta can always give herself a heart attack or go into a decline wishing things were different and yelling at clouds and bushes.

Not at all likely.

But what’s your point?

amortiser
amortiser
March 31, 2022 5:59 pm

Get a load of this.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/project-sea-dragon-prawn-farm-deemed-unviable-in-current-form/100954706

The killer piece is in the last two paragraphs. When will they ever learn? If a project is viable it will survive without government support. $50 million down the toilet.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 6:00 pm

Bruce of Newcastle:

Incidentally the Russian fighters that intruded into Swedish airspace last night were apparently detected carrying nukes by the scrambled Swedish aircraft. I don’t know if that was visible ID or instrumental detection. I’d expect the latter though.

So. How far up the Nuclear Escalation Ladder are we?
I strongly suspect it isn’t the first rung we are standing on.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 6:01 pm

As a matter of fact here, you’re a lazy bum and a coward for not taking the vax and losing your jobs etc.

No Struth. You are the coward and the bum for screaming at us and hiding away when you are in a State and a situation where you could sidestep the bureaucracy and still thrive. But you won’t because of your ego.

I’ve repeatedly demonstrated to you where you could put your efforts today. All 7,000-odd of them across road transport and engineering and construction companies, big and small Queensland and South Australia. Every last one crying out for drivers and even owner-drivers.

But all you can or will do, is shit in your hands and clap them at the people here on this blog…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 6:03 pm

Not at all likely.

But what’s your point?

The implication was that you could be a Struth, Delta. Instead of taking the hits and wanting to get on with life.

Because Struth basically said in reply to you that that sort of thinking is contemptible…

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 6:05 pm

rickw

I have not enough super accumulated nor an inheritance to fall back on but that’s not the only reason I may change my mind. Some times we are left with enduring the un endurable to get what is rightfully owes. Besides I do not fear covid or the Vax.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 31, 2022 6:07 pm

Money has been poured into the NT for over a hundred years, mostly by the Federal Government and it’s all disappeared into a black hole.
There was a $200 million meatworks built there a coupla years ago
with Feds money.
Never opened, unviable.

JC
JC
March 31, 2022 6:11 pm

A crash site has been discovered in dense bushland after police spent hours searching for a helicopter that went missing in regional Victoria this morning.
It is believed five people – a pilot and four passengers – were on board the helicopter, which police have located crashed near Mt Disappointment, an hour north of Melbourne’s CBD.
The area where the helicopter has crashed is covered by such dense bush that police are unable to access it by ground or land a helicopter nearby.
Mt Disappointment. And we’re not living in a simulation?

johanna
johanna
March 31, 2022 6:12 pm

Kneel at 1.15pm.

Could be anyone:

Because I am not you and do not know your circumstances nor your history, your hopes, dreams, plans nor anything else about you but what you choose to post here (true or not, which I have no way to tell in any case, and presume is at least mostly true).

and

f you wish to be so rude as to fail to provide me with the same courtesy of not second guessing my motivations, hopes, feelings etc, then do not expect anything less than the abuse you deserve for such failure on your part. If you are so foolish as to continue to provoke people, then you should not be surprised when they eventually decide that you are deserving of derision and ridicule, and return your own lack of civility.

plus

I will do what I can and what I must, and neither do I care for your opinion on such matters – they are not your choices, but mine and I will deal with the consequences. I will not be swayed by some anonymous, arrogant and rude nobody on the internet in such matters, most especially not one who offers naught but abuse and derision in their vainglorious belief that they know better than me what I should do and why.

Yep, just some random who turned up here just after the 67th faux flounce by a heat winner in our Drama Queen Stakes for anyone under 100 years old.

rickw
rickw
March 31, 2022 6:13 pm

Scraper, JD 5010.

My grandfather used to sink dams with one of these. Horrendous gearbox!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYbKmhOV6ck

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 31, 2022 6:14 pm

Dot says:
March 31, 2022 at 5:06 pm
Um

Is this slavery?

https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2022/03/21/egypt-farmers-forced-to-sell-quota-of-wheat-output-to-the-government/

Welcome to the economic reset!

Back to the future.
This happened in Australia after the big wheat harvest of 1968/9.

The world was awash which wheat and it was agreed that only a set amount of grain produced by a farmer could be sold to the Wheat Board. The domestic market was regulated as well.

My father hated the whole thing as he’d just bought land and was looking to sell a good harvest at the price the market set.
He was left with little to sell and the bank still looking for it’s due.

Monumental stupidity.

Delta A
Delta A
March 31, 2022 6:15 pm

The implication was that you could be a Struth, Delta.

Ah, thanks, Rex. I should have remembered that anything calli says makes sense. 🙂

Been a tad distracted with dinner prep and execution: baked smoked hocks with maple glaze and my special sauerkraut. Plus mashed spuds.

Always mashed spuds.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 31, 2022 6:15 pm

I’ll take Delta’s courage, good humour and resilience in the face of adversity over a few of the sooky la-las here all day long.

Seeing quite a lot of resilience.
NSW has a Resilience Minister, Steph [somebody], she talks about floods on the Telly.

rickw
rickw
March 31, 2022 6:18 pm

Small scraper, my grandfather got me one of these when I was a kid. I still have it. I assume that he managed to get it by ordering it through the local JD dealer:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-ertl-john-deere-scraper-earth-1722152261

bespoke
bespoke
March 31, 2022 6:18 pm

I should have remembered that anything calli says makes sense.

Please stop.

Indolent
Indolent
March 31, 2022 6:20 pm

It’s having friendships weirdly change.
It’s arguments with family members that turn nasty.
It’s being told you are a risk to others. (!!!)
Having people tell you that you’re an “instant expert” because you don’t trust the experts.
It’s having argument after argument with people who’s arguments make no sense, but who watch mainstream dreck and have soaked up two years of daily Covid tallies and shit, manipulated stats.
It’s goddam bloody infuriating.

All of that. Being asked to take a Covid test before attending a party. You ask the hostess (a double-certificate nurse) what’s the point if the vaxxed guests just as easily catch and spread the disease as the unvaxxed and being told that, ah but it’s less severe and would protect those with comorbidities who, I’m sure, were not asked to provide a test. In other words she, with her background, has swallowed the scam whole, double vax, booster and all.

Arky
March 31, 2022 6:28 pm

Instead of taking the hits and wanting to get on with life.

..
What would those “hits” be?
Having restrictions placed on what employment one can undertake, what travel one can do, because of refusal to take a concoction?
Queensland, 2022:

Restrictions for unvaccinated people

Unvaccinated people are not permitted to:

visit vulnerable settings, including hospitals, residential aged care, disability accommodation services, and prisons. This does not apply to residents and patients of these facilities, and there will be some exceptions for medical treatment, end-of-life visits, childbirth and emergency situations
attend hospitality venues such as hotels, pubs, clubs, taverns, bars, restaurants or cafes
attend indoor entertainment venues such as nightclubs, live music venues, karaoke bars, concerts, theatres or cinemas, and planetariums
attend outdoor entertainment activities such as sporting stadiums, theme parks or tourism experience like reef excursions and observatories
attend festivals – either indoor or outdoor – such as musical festivals, folk festivals or arts festivals
attend Queensland Government owned galleries, museums or libraries.

..
How THE FUCK are you people turning this into “Struth, get on with your life and stop sooking”?
We’re second class citizens all around this country, and getting very sick of being told to suck it up.
If at times Struth goes too far in imagining some horrible consequence to the happy vaccinated, it’s not good, but is fully understandable.
Given years of reading a blog where a cohort pleaded the correctness of illicit drug taking, unbridled free speech, etc, to find that it has gone limp in the face of this tyranny, because some unvaxxed aren’t polite enough for your taste…
Well, enraged is the feeling.
https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/public-health-directions/public-health-social-measures

rickw
rickw
March 31, 2022 6:29 pm

Scraper tips:

If the elevator chain gets out of sync. put a block of wood on the inbound side where the chain meets the drive sprocket on the leading chain. This will cause the sprocket to let the chain jump back one notch. Your elevator chain will now be level!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 6:30 pm

So. How far up the Nuclear Escalation Ladder are we?

Winston, the Doomsday Clock was brought in to 100 seconds before midnight in 2020 and still is on 100 seconds in 2022. So no biggie apparently. They seem to think climate change is the real danger from what I read on their website. They complain nuclear war toe to toe with the ruskies would have a chilling effect on doing climate science in the Arctic. And that fake meat will save us all, or something. It’s Kubrickingly amusing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 31, 2022 6:34 pm

Winston

However, the Uranium can be removed from the warhead and fashioned into a new weapon. That’s where the danger lies – in remade/refurbished unmaintained weaponry.

I mentioned later that swapping the fissile material out could also be done.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Doomsday clock: Is that the one run by educated super-geniuses who advanced it alarmingly just coz Donald Trump was elected & his instability was “dangerous” for world peace?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 31, 2022 6:36 pm

The world was awash which wheat and it was agreed that only a set amount of grain produced by a farmer could be sold to the Wheat Board. The domestic market was regulated as well.

That quota system was what led to the setting up of the Hutt River Province – Leonard Casley had nearly ten thousand acres of wheat to harvest, and his quota was the equivalent of the yield of a hundred acres….

Roger
Roger
March 31, 2022 6:37 pm

Doomsday clock: Is that the one run by educated super-geniuses who advanced it alarmingly just coz Donald Trump was elected & his instability was “dangerous” for world peace?

They predicted he was going to wreck the world economy and start WWIII.

Off by just one president.

Indolent
Indolent
March 31, 2022 6:42 pm

Those who malign the vaxxed are arguing that 90+ of the population are fuckwits, cowards, robots, choose your pejorative. That’s misanthropy on stilts. Why are they even here communicating with all those fuckwits? Surely their time would be better spent elsewhere, like howling at the moon the fucking arrogant shit for brains dickwads.

No. Some took it through credulity, some (many) were panicked into it, others were forced to take it simply to be able to continue to earn a living and are furious about it. Those deserving the most distain are the ones who took it for convenience, to take advantage of whatever little treats the various governments were doling out without thought for the effect on others.

Unfortunately, the simple truth is that each and every one did a disservice to their fellow man, because there could never have been such a level of control and coercion if more people had seen through it from the beginning (ergo the wall to wall propaganda). And unfortunately, as mentioned above, there are still plenty of people who believe every word like gospel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 31, 2022 6:43 pm

Winston Smithsays:
March 31, 2022 at 5:54 pm
Grey Ranga:

I also thought it strange the idea of giving any muzzie country atomic weapons as they are likely to go muzzie at any time.

It was a political decision, GR – not an intelligent one.

I have yet to see any evidence that they were not under the two key control system, which means they could only ever have been used with US Government approval (which it is hard to see ever being given short of a NATO vs Soviet war).

calli
calli
March 31, 2022 6:44 pm

bespoke says:
March 31, 2022 at 6:18 pm
I should have remembered that anything calli says makes sense.
Please stop.

No, no! I want to baste in approval!

Only one side is done, will have to roll over for an even coating.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 6:44 pm

Doomsday clock: Is that the one run by educated super-geniuses who advanced it alarmingly just coz Donald Trump was elected & his instability was “dangerous” for world peace?

Yes, that’s the one. They’re experts like the FDA are experts.

Fifth COVID-19 Vaccine Shot May Be Needed In Fall: FDA Official (31 Mar)

I wonder when the proles will start revolting revoltingly?

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 6:48 pm

Walli Dali:

No I’m thinking the only way that the Dems can win and be seen to win another presidential term would be to clear off Biden, Pelosi, and Harris- in that order, with a suitable mourning period between- and ring in a cleanskin.

Harris has to go first – that’s without saying.
No woman is allowed to be President until they are elected President.
So the fight is between Hillary and Michelle.
The main problem is that each of these two has so much dirt on the other, one has to die before the dirt is displayed on its trajectory toward the air circulation mechanism.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 31, 2022 6:48 pm

Roger

They predicted he was going to wreck the world economy and start WWIII.

Off by just one president.

Missed it by that much, Chief!

JC
JC
March 31, 2022 6:49 pm

No. Some took it through credulity, some (many) were panicked into it, others were forced to take it simply to be able to continue to earn a living and are furious about it. Those deserving the most distain are the ones who took it for convenience, to take advantage of whatever little treats the various governments were doling out without thought for the effect on others.

I wouldn’t have been able to run the business I inherited without the shot. I would have had to close it down. That wasn’t going to happen. Unlike the queerslander shitforbrains, I, and other in the same boat aren’t here every hour of the day insulting people about the vax. And quite frankly, Stuth is a fucking worthless moron. He comes here because no one reads that shitforbrains blog he helped start.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 31, 2022 6:49 pm

How THE FUCK are you people turning this into “Struth, get on with your life and stop sooking”?

Because in a State that has tacitly admitted it has all but given the game away (assuming it was rigorously enforced in the first instance beyond the first 2 weeks, as I seem to recall the Kenworth King boasting that in his local area it wasn’t), the little bitch continues to make it all about him.

Queensland is not Victoria, Arky. Nor is it WA.

And even if he was over here, I’d have told him to pull his head in and stop abusing people because of his choice.

I know plenty of folks here in the meatspace who have taken the hits of loss of play avenues and loss of work because they stuck their fingers up at Sneakers.

They aren’t lining up to chest-poke and moan about others being sheep and traitors as a means of coping.

In fact, most of us aren’t. Stabbed or not.

Are you here every day to chest-poke at us, stabbed and unstabbed alike?

Indolent
Indolent
March 31, 2022 6:52 pm

twostixsays:
March 31, 2022 at 2:11 pm

Deserves a thread of its own.

Roger
Roger
March 31, 2022 6:55 pm

Missed it by that much, Chief!

Don Adams was once a drill instructor in the Marines.

Not many people know that.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 6:58 pm

Local Oaf:

Well, our rulers managed to brainwash most of the sheep into believing the unjabbed are not only filthy and germ ridden, but dangerous Nazi extremist nutjobs as well.

Exactly.
And I won’t forget it when the Germstapo come for me.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 31, 2022 6:59 pm

Getting covid could protect you from a new strain.
Beyond zero from the chief censors of natural immunity.
Amnesia helps.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-29/omicron-sub-variant-according-to-tony-blakeley/100944880

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 7:00 pm

I have yet to see any evidence that they were not under the two key control system, which means they could only ever have been used with US Government approval (which it is hard to see ever being given short of a NATO vs Soviet war).

Keys are for people that want to use access them immediately. I’m sure the choggies would help out in return for looking at the technology in case they hadn’t already stolen it.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 31, 2022 7:06 pm

Delta Asays:
March 31, 2022 at 6:15 pm
The implication was that you could be a Struth, Delta.

Ah, thanks, Rex. I should have remembered that anything calli says makes sense. ?

Been a tad distracted with dinner prep and execution: baked smoked hocks with maple glaze and my special sauerkraut. Plus mashed spuds.

Always mashed spuds.

My beautiful Aunt calls them “murdered potatoes”.

Zipster
Zipster
March 31, 2022 7:09 pm

And unfortunately, as mentioned above, there are still plenty of people who believe every word like gospel.

some took the jab as a form of virtue signalling

cohenite
March 31, 2022 7:15 pm

Dot, Cohenite: ever tried periodization training?

All weight training is cyclical although a lot of guys just do maintenance workouts. Everyone does negative sets, matrix stacking, super-setting, dropping the weight while increasing the reps and generally varying their intensity over time etc.

I’m so strong and muscular I really don’t have to bother although if enough ladies are in the gym I increase the poundage, just for appearances.

cohenite
March 31, 2022 7:16 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 31, 2022 7:18 pm

Don Adams was once a drill instructor in the Marines.

When Lee Marvin starred in “The Dirty Dozen”, the film armorer took him aside for a weapons lesson.

“This is the sub machine gun in use in the United States Army at the time, this is how you would hold it, this is how it would behave when you fired it….”

Lee Marvin never said a word. He took the weapon, stripped it down, laid out the parts in sequence and re assembled it, before handing the weapon back to the armorer.

The armorer went cold as he realized he was trying to give a Marine Corps veteran of the Pacific War, a lesson on weapons handling..

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 7:18 pm

Can I put in a late order for some capitals?
O,H,F,O,R,F,U,C,K,S,S,A,K,& E.
They don’t seem to be being used.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 31, 2022 7:23 pm

Regarding the nukes in Turkey: Until recently (a few years) Turkey was a secular nation. Kemal Attaturk set it up that way in the early 1920’s. The military were under orders to overthrow the government if it went crazy Muzzie, which it did on two or three occasions. Erdogan has negated that. The nukes go back to at least the early 1960’s which was one of the things that triggered the Cuban missile crisis (Jupiter IRBM’s in Turkey).
There probably isn’t much U235, if any, in any of the weapons there. They will be low fission yield triggers run on Pu239 to trigger the fusion component. Pu 239 needs an implosion configuration which is much trickier than a U235 gun type weapon so melting down the cores and making a new bomb isn’t at all easy.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 7:23 pm

John H:

The other day I saw an economic bod make the same argument. The spending is a huge gamble with our money and our lives. If it rates spike we’re all in big trouble.

I was talking to my sister today and I suggested she get the kids to stress test their mortgages at 5%, 10% and 15%.
There are a lot of youngsters standing on a financial precipice without a clue.

Dot
Dot
March 31, 2022 7:24 pm

If the AFP, Ch 9 and ABC declare you’re a garage nazi, do you just declare that you’re a loyal Azov Battalion follower?

Amazing how the establishment left have rehabilitated the public status of Nazism in only a month or so!

Now it isn’t for Trump supporters, it’s for people on the right side of history.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 31, 2022 7:25 pm

Chief Minister Michael Gunner has thrown his support behind beleaguered Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker in Parliament, in the face of three NT Independent articles this week based on different detectives’ diary notes that contradict Mr Chalker’s claims that he was not involved in the process to charge Constable Zach Rolfe with murder in 2019.

Mr Gunner also took the opportunity in Parliament to claim he was not under investigation by, and was not a witness in, the ICAC investigation into allegations of political interference in the charging of Constable Rolfe – a claim that Independent Commissioner Against Corruption Michael Riches has refuted.

The Opposition CLP continued their attack on Mr Gunner during Question Time, repeatedly asking him if he would be a witness in the inquiry or was under investigation. Mr Gunner gave the one-word answer “no”, every time.

However, Mr Riches told the NT Independent that Mr Gunner may in fact be called as a witness during the investigation. “Whether or not someone will be required as a witness is ultimately a matter for me to determine as my investigation progresses,” he said.“No one should assume they will or will not be required as a witness.”

Mr Gunner fumbled his words when asked in Parliament by the Opposition if he still had confidence in Mr Chalker after recent reports in the NT Independent.

“Chief Minister, media reports suggest the Police Commissioner was directly involved in the decision to charge Constable Rolfe with murder, in stark contradiction to his previous public statements,” said Member for Katherine Jo Hersey.

“Does the police commissioner still have your full support?”

Mr Gunner appeared caught off-guard by the question.“I support our Police Commissioner,” he said.
“I obviously would, ah, always play great caution to any, um, … I’ll be very careful about what I say ‘cause I’m aware there’s an ICAC investigation here, we have to be very careful of what we say. I completely support the Police Commissioner, absolutely. I think we should all be careful about things we may hear and not take, take all these things with a grain of salt and trust with the ICAC to do their job.

NT Independent

Roger
Roger
March 31, 2022 7:29 pm

The armorer went cold as he realized he was trying to give a Marine Corps veteran of the Pacific War, a lesson on weapons handling..

Iirc Marvin was wounded at Tarawa.

He was asked about it on Parkinson but made light of it.

Winston Smith
March 31, 2022 7:30 pm

Calli:

But at least she gets off the ground and out of the mud for a brief moment.

No, we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

Lord Darlington in “Lady Windermere’s Fan”

Rabz
March 31, 2022 7:32 pm

Sod off, Albansleazey, you blithering Bidenesque cretin.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 31, 2022 7:33 pm

Now it isn’t for Trump supporters, it’s for people on the right side of history.

Dot, they’ve all read the book.
Fortunately it’s short, with no big words, so it didn’t tax their literacy levels.

Roger
Roger
March 31, 2022 7:35 pm

Iirc Marvin was wounded at Tarawa.

Just checked…it was Saipan.

On Parkinson he said he was shot in the butt when in fact machine gun fire severed his sciatic nerve.

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  1. I visited bonagilla saw the kitchen menu, the dorms etc – anyone who complains after what they went through ww2…

  2. Steve going from the repulsive hell creature to a few clips below – young lady Miranda singing Ava Maria. there…

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