2,451 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 28 June 2022”

  1. Bugler’s medal in Somme VC sale

    On this topic I don’t think anyone has mentioned the passing of this guy.

    Last Medal of Honor Recipient From WWII Dies at 98 (29 Jun)

    At the height of World War II, 18-year-old Hershel “Woody” Williams tried to join the U.S. Marine Corps, but a recruiter told the 5-foot-6 dairy farmer: “Go home, you’re too short.”

    The height requirement soon changed, according to a foundation named for Williams, who joined the Marines and went on to earn the Medal of Honor after single-handedly taking out a series of Japanese positions in the bloodiest battles on Iwo Jima. Williams died Wednesday at 98 years old.

    Semper Fi, sir.


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  2. America was the apparent string-puller in all of this.

    Are you trying to make us believe the US was just a casual observer??!?!?

    puleeeeease!


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  3. There is the Visgrad group, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia.

    The Visegrad group grew apart from the EU over the immigration and cultural policies and bureaucracy. They are pretty much in it for the Schengen zone and Euro only.

    They seem to treat NATO as the practical political grouping, since NATO and those debbil-debbil Americans and Poms whose idea it was in the first place, take the whole business much more seriously than France and Germany and their constant jostling in Brussels.


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  4. Even the places you mentioned, apart from Syria, where they were invited, everything is either inside the Russian federation, or directly on their borders. They absolutely have an pertinent interest there.

    All independent nations, Dover.

    Last I checked, America does not invade Canada, Mexico or Hawai’i because the local leader won’t do what Washington wants today.


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  5. Gray Connolly
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    Can someone in Canberra please read, clearly for the first time, the Constitution? There is no power for any executive body created by Parliament to then remove MPs … what is happening? One beholds the not unjustified dreams of King Charles I here
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    Katharine Murphy
    @murpharoo
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    New from @msmarto and @Paul_Karp Federal Icac should have power to sack parliamentarians, independent MP says #auspol https://theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/01/federal-icac-should-have-power-to-sack-parliamentarians-independent-mp-says?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Now we know that the clamour for a federal ICAC wasn’t merely for a media-led shaming campaign aimed at a resignation but for them to enjoy the power to sack targeted MPs.


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  6. Have you no concern that he may plead “inter-generational trauma?”
    It’s a reality.
    Descendants of Holocaust victims have been recognised as suffering from Intergenerational Trauma.


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  7. All independent nations, Dover.

    Last I checked, America does not invade Canada, Mexico or Hawai’i because the local leader won’t do what Washington wants today.

    JFK wasn’t too impressed when the USSR was going to station missiles in Cuba


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  8. So the concept of the Russians declaring NATO on their direct (historically vulnerable) border in Ukraine is perceived as a threat, and is absolutely a red line they will act on, is what?

    It was never seriously offered until Russia came west in 2014.

    No Ukrainian government or population or NATO member took the 2008 suggestion seriously.

    Russia invaded because Ukraine’s parliament threw out his man because Vlad Bae threatened him over membership into the EU.

    And all the Kissingers and but muh NATOS! will never take that historical fact away.

    Vlad Bae came and took parts of the Ukraine in 2014 because of the EU.

    He got a de facto NATO military on his doorstep by his actions alone.


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  9. JFK wasn’t too impressed when the USSR was going to station missiles in Cuba

    Also, oddly enough, an independent nation.

    As were the Turks, whose acceptance of Jupiter missiles was the alleged catalyst.

    Neither was invaded by an irate America.


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  10. No the children of Holocaust survivors have been affected by how their parents behave as the result of their wartime experiences.
    It’s not some nebulous genetic problem.
    Then again, the Irish might have a claim against the English for 800 years of second class citizenship in their own land.


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  11. Now, since Russia is perfectly okay in what it is doing and has done because of its stated historical invasion fears and of NATO encroachment, will we see posts on the Cat in support of China if and when it starts taking islands and reefs off the Philippines or directly assaulting Vietnam or Taiwan? And uses the same justifications beforehand?


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  12. “No the children of Holocaust survivors have been affected by how their parents behave as the result of their wartime experiences.
    It’s not some nebulous genetic problem.”

    Correct.


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  13. Remembering that China has some 3000 years of historical claims to everyone and everything around it (including Australia, at last check), a historically demonstrated fear of overland invasion from Mongolia and the Russian steppes, a great many neighbours grouped in a broadly hostile alliance against it and a meddlesome America in the mix, too…


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  14. Mistake Creek” was somewhat complicated – the white station manager who Aboriginal “eyewitnesses” described as leading the massacre, had actually been dead for two years at the time

    Also, FWIW, a new book “Truth Telling At Risdon Cove”, by Scott Seymour, George Brown, and Roger Karge makes the claim that the “eyewitness” to the massacre at Risdon Cove, in Tasmania – the start of the “genocide” in Tasmania – didn’t set foot in the colony until four years after the massacre…


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  15. JFK wasn’t too impressed when the USSR was going to station missiles in Cuba

    USSR wasn’t too impressed when the JFK stationed missiles in Turkey.


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  16. Good picking denizens of North Sydney.

    That some of Australia’s richest electorates are also some of the most clueless is very instructive.

    How do they become wealthy?

    My guess is it’s not by producing anything of value that could be traded internationally.

    Bank executives blacklisting coal investments comes immediately to mind.


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  17. Lizzie, I suspect there was biff as well as melding, humans being human. Per my comment yesterday.

    Always on the cards in ancient times, Bruce.


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  18. In the past year she called for the date of Australia Day to be changed, with a post saying: ‘Sovereignty has never been ceded. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.’
    There’s some truth in that, and the History has been horrific

    It sure was, until the white guys turned up.


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  19. Remembering that China has some 3000 years of historical claims to everyone and everything around it (including Australia, at last check)

    Whoops- Not a direct Chinese claim. But an ‘alternative’ historian’s ambit:

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/its-official-admiral-zheng-beat-cook-to-australia-20021125-gdutvo.html

    Subsequently taken up by at least one aggressive online spruiker the Peoples’ Republic (2nd entry down):

    https://www.quora.com/Would-China-make-a-historical-claim-to-Australia-just-like-they-used-in-the-South-China-Sea?share=1


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  20. US was happy invade Grenada and Panama in the 80s iirc.

    Not there now.
    I don’t think Putin will just leave Ukraine like Reagan did Grenada.
    It’s a feeling I got.


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  21. Now, since Russia is perfectly okay in what it is doing and has done

    I don’t think I ever said that- I recall saying that it is to some extent understandable. Also as one of our commentators here has asked, where are the peace missions? the shuttle diplomacy? I would have thought Blinken rubbish would want to play at being Henry K. It’s pretty obvious that the western establishment wanted this war and are enjoying it. Consider Blojob’s giggling and misandry.


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  22. bay of pigs

    I suppose that counts as an invasion by America if you’re willing to agree that the actions in the Donbass since 2015 have primarily been fought by Russian troops tearing their patches off and pretending to be Donetski and Luhanski…


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  23. I don’t think I ever said that- I recall saying that it is to some extent understandable

    That’s aimed at Dover and Zipster. Not you.


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  24. US was happy invade Grenada and Panama in the 80s iirc.

    Not there now.
    So what?
    I don’t think Putin will just leave Ukraine like Reagan did Grenada.
    Ok
    It’s a feeling I got.
    Ok


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  25. Test as a post trying to make is not making it through.

    Any more than 3 hyperlinks and it won’t go straight through. WordPress thinks you are trying to spam it.


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  26. Ed Casesays:
    July 1, 2022 at 6:36 pm
    The 43-year-old had declared she wanted to avoid making political commentary as the Prime Minister’s partner – but used her LinkedIn account to freely air her progressive views.

    Has she accompanied Albanese overseas?

    Yes, AnAl must have had a shave.


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  27. OK trying in 2 parts.

    Below from SMH. They, the Govt and experts, are just itching to coerce the population into more boosters. No guesses for what Jane Halton is going to recommend based on her background. Note if they approve a 4th shot which is not the upcoming Omicron variant then that will mean they
    will be going for at least 5 not counting if they try to make it annual.

    What do you call a group of epidemiologists ? A plague. The problem is this is the highlight of their careers with research grants, massive Govt funding, media attention and they thrive on it. They actually benefit from the vax campaigns.


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  28. Also as one of our commentators here has asked, where are the peace missions? the shuttle diplomacy? I would have thought Blinken rubbish would want to play at being Henry K. It’s pretty obvious that the western establishment wanted this war and are enjoying it. Consider Blojob’s giggling and misandry.”

    That was me. I remain very curious at the UN and how it’s missing in action, I guess it’s too busy condemning Israel, I remain curious as to why there are so few peace initiatives and I remain very curious as to why there’s been little or zero shuttle diplomacy. All Blinken does is blink.


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  29. I don’t think I ever said that- I recall saying that it is to some extent understandable.

    its realpolitik. I said day one that ukraine should rush to the negotiating table. The idea ukraine was going to defeat the russian army is pure fantasy.

    The fact they didn’t and still have not earnestly done so, implies there are various forces at work, none of which are concerned about actual ukrainian interests.


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  30. It’s bloody freezing in Sydney tonight.

    Three electric heaters blasting our main living areas and the chill still falls on my tiny frozen fingers.

    I am sooooo sympathetic to the little monk scratching away in bitter cold with a quill pen on doe hide catching the light outside his beehive stone hut in fifth century Ireland or inside under a candle, that young monk who wrote in the margins for posterity that his fingers were so cold he could hardly write.

    Those little frozen fingers of complaint helped to save Western civilisation, copying the Greats of the past in an excess of zeal while the monkish desert Zealots of Alexandria lived in a truly regressive Age, destroying libraries and running amok while the citizenry were too cowed to intervene.

    Deplatforming is nothing new.


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  31. I remain curious as to why there are so few peace initiatives and I remain very curious as to why there’s been little or zero shuttle diplomacy. All Blinken does is blink.

    I dunno, but I suspect US is trying to take out Putin and turn Russia’s military into scrap. If the US has sent (or on way) US$50 billion, the Hidens may think they can win. Just a guess


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  32. The problem is this is the highlight of their careers with research grants, massive Govt funding, media attention and they thrive on it.

    Just like Climate “scientists”. Normally third rate plodders now basking in the limelight.


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  33. And lots and lots of dead Russians for years and years and years.
    They hold grudges, slavs do.
    For a century or so.

    Fester is a slavophile now. No content with a bible expert as well as a metallurgical biologist, He’s now a slavophile too.


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  34. Bonobos, Bruce?

    Don’t they spend all of their time having it off with each other in grand orgies?
    Too peaceful and happy to fight.

    Sounds a bit too suss to me. But the reports are in, and there you are.
    Whereas us yumans, we’re like chimps and behave badly to each other.

    So they sez.
    But I am skeptical about it all and certainly so about applying these attributions to our species.


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  35. Grenada was invaded after a violent Communist overthrow of the existing government, a brewing civil war and a formal request for help their neighbours and their formal alliance the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States.

    600 US medical students in the country didn’t help matters either. Nor did the Cuban expeditionary force and Soviet, Libyan and East German advisors that turned up in support of the revolutionaries.

    This was not a punishment for not doing what Washington wanted.

    You would be much closer with Panama, since Manuel Noriega first fell out with Reagan and the George H.W. Bush over corruption issues, 2 failed coups and his long-term racketeering and drug smuggling (under a blind eye from the CIA, in return for not siding with the Soviet Union).

    But after the second coup, his seizure of power by force after losing a democratic election and taking US military members hostage (And the US emphatically not wanting a repeat of 1979 in Iran), there were more generally justifiable reasons to topple him than not. Panamanians did not want him, and his continued behaviour was threatening international shipping thru the Panama Canal.

    Interestingly, a deal had just been signed between Panama and the US to cede the Canal to Panamanian government by 2000, so long as the US could keep a garrison in-country and continue to sail its ships through. It could have chosen to keep Panama as an annexed territory. But didn’t.


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  36. I still like ethology and evolutionary biology though.

    Fascinating stuff, requiring complex thinking not simple take-outs.


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  37. The funny thing, Rosie, is that the descendants of the Irish who run the bureaucratic, philistine and secularist bog that is ‘progressive’ Catholicism in this country froth at the mouth at the suggestion that anything but English – the language of their forebears’ conquerors and jailers – should be used in church. The slightest hint of Latin has them not just foaming at the mouth, but convulsing on the floor and threatening to self-immolate.


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  38. JC said something along the lines that it’s hard not the fall in love with the US and I agree. Wonderful scenery, amazing people, I found myself saying ‘wow’ so many times.

    But I sure as shit hate the Democratic Party and the RINOs, they are the worst- criminal and evil. A threat not only to Americans but to us too because our left take all their cues from them.


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  39. I still like ethology and evolutionary biology though.

    Oh yea, how does one conduct an experiment to scientifically prove an assertion in evolutionary biology?


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  40. A threat not only to Americans but to us too because our left take all their cues from them.

    Only their cues? 🙂

    The only difference I can detect between m0nty and an actual American leftist, is that m0nty types in an Australian timezone.

    Apart from that, they’re utterly indistinguishable.


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  41. Still working on getting the three phase metering and distribution board approved.

    This country is fucked. Amongst the endless shit, the metering and measuring board need to be fitted with handles. Heaven forbid that the fuckheads involved with this might carry the standard electric cabinet key, or be able to use long nose pliers to achieve the same.

    This country is full of fucking useless wankers dedicated to making everyone’s life as difficult and as filled with bureaucracy as possible.


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  42. Didn’t the Russians run out of ammo two and half months ago? I remember reports that it would happen in two more weeks from three months ago.
    How is this war still going?


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  43. JC said something along the lines that it’s hard not the fall in love with the US and I agree. Wonderful scenery, amazing people, I found myself saying ‘wow’ so many times.

    Milton, next time get a window seat during daytime from either side on the two coasts. It’s mesmerizing. From east to west: the north eastern forests, the plains, the Rockies and then into the desert and finally into LA. I love Australia, but the US .. I just love.


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  44. I’d like to return to the topic of unauthorised rooting on cruise ships, if I may.

    There are actually guides for this. From Cruise West Coast – some advice for the gentlemen:

    Shorter Cruises Let You Be A Baller On A Budget

    We don’t usually encourage folks to pretend to be someone they aren’t. That is a terrible way to start a relationship. However, if you are a guy looking to find girls to hook up with, one way that works well is for guys to be flashy and show their wealth. That is obviously very sexist and won’t work to attract every lady. However, a cruise presents an interesting opportunity to make this happen in a unique way.

    For instance, by selecting a short cruise, you can choose a suite instead of a balcony room for about the same price as you might otherwise pay on a week-long-cruise.

    Absolute gold. The same piece also advises ladeeeee cruisers to get in for their chop:

    Ladies – If You Are Interested, This Isn’t The Time To Play Hard To Get

    Ladies, your cruise vacation is only going to be a few days long. So, if your goal is to find “Mr Right Now” don’t play hard to get. If you just simply want to flirt then that is totally fine and nobody should push you further than you are comfortable with. However, if your goal is to get some vacation action then it is important to express your desires and be clear that you are interested should you find someone potentially compatible.

    Yeah, ladies. Get on board and put out.


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  45. Speaking of Iran, Dad always told me that it was the CIA that had Mosaddegh removed

    That’s true.

    These monumental fuck ups are why libertarians believe in non interventionist ideas.

    Surely Iran is far worse off now than nationalising oil companies in the 1950s.


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  46. This country is full of fucking useless wankers dedicated to making everyone’s life as difficult and as filled with bureaucracy as possible.

    Agree and it amazes me that people still open new businesses – Woodgrove at Melton always seems to find tenants for vacant shops.


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  47. Lizzie, sure, cold can be debilitating, yet the desert fathers of the Church, were in no way the regressive’ nor simply the, ‘monkish desert zealots of Alexandria’, but were, like their counterparts in colder climes, ascetics in every sense.


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  48. All independent nations, Dover.

    I’m not the author you’re responding to there.

    It was never seriously offered until Russia came west in 2014.

    No Ukrainian government or population or NATO member took the 2008 suggestion seriously.

    No offer at this level is flippant.

    Russia invaded because Ukraine’s parliament threw out his man because Vlad Bae threatened him over membership into the EU.

    Nuland on line 1.

    And all the Kissingers and but muh NATOS! will never take that historical fact away.

    It completely destroys the claim it is responding to, principally, that no one, incl. Russia, was worried about NATO expansion.


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  49. LOL my last for the night. Enjoy all.

    “Rain bomb” for Queensland if you believe Murdoch’s kiddies. Well today we had nothing despite it was meant to be starting, tomorrow was meant to be 15-30mm now down to 5-15, I doubt we will get 1mm. Monday supposed to be the culminator. OK, Show Day Holiday would be nice as I can hide inside but I reckon it will amount to nothing.


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  50. However, if you are a guy looking to find girls to hook up with, one way that works well is for guys to be flashy and show their wealth.

    If you use chum instead of berley, you will attract man eaters.


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  51. Geez your day can go bad quickly.
    Just had my first ride in an MRI. Lord they are noisy things.

    However fit and healthy and invincible you are, when age creeps up, get ready for left field shit.


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  52. VicPol ‘taking the knee’ at Ballarat

    I will guarantee those three porky, flaccid specimens have, by now, either a) resigned or b) been identified as ‘talent’ by upper management and promoted accordingly.

    It’s probably not the most disgraceful thing I’ve ever seen, but by Christ it’s in the top five.


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  53. Just had my first ride in an MRI. Lord they are noisy things.

    Made all your nuclei tip over!
    NMR is fun, it actually flips the nucleus of all your atoms.
    Then measures the radio emissions when they flip back.
    Used to use it in postgrad, although only 5mm diameter samples back then.


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  54. So Mali Cooper, the very creepy, zombie, dead eyed child from the Village of the Damned, who caused chaos in Sydney earlier this week, has had bail granted for a second time, despite breaking her first bail conditions. And one of the provisos of being granted bail a second time meant that she promised to spend last night at her Grannie’s home in Crows Nest, a suburb located on Sydney’s leafy north shore…in what is now “Teal Land”.

    Think back to last year, in July, when anti-lockdowns protesters took to the streets here in Sydney and remember how “horse man” was charged, denied bail and spent over a week locked up in a prison cell.

    Don’t ever tell me that justice is blind.


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  55. Eyriesays:
    July 1, 2022 at 8:08 pm
    Didn’t the Russians run out of ammo two and half months ago? I remember reports that it would happen in two more weeks from three months ago.
    How is this war still going?

    Arty ammo does not go off. They retain titanic stockpiles of 152mm and 122mm from the Soviet era.


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  56. next time get a window seat during daytime

    Take the train from San Francisco to New York via Chicago: desert, mountains, farmland, then down the Hudson Valley in the morning.

    Will be looking to do much the same trip again, but via a different route, in October. Counting the days.


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  57. Desperate to squeeze out every last drop of funding, Quenthland – aka The Last Holdout – predictably tries it on (the Courier Mail):

    Queensland could reintroduce mask wearing as the current immunity-evading Covid-19 wave worsens with the Chief Health Officer Dr John Gerrard confirming “it’s being discussed.”

    Righto. Off you go then.

    The possibility of Queenslanders needing to mask up again came as Dr Gerrard said the current covid wave would “get significantly worse in the coming weeks.”

    He said the current strains of the virus were evading both vaccine and natural immunity, but said that being vaccinated was still the best option to avoid serious and deadly symptoms, pointing to current hospitalisation statistics.

    “We are seeing the establishment of a new wave of covid, these BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants that are causing a significant wave at the moment.”

    The ‘driver’ here might be several Qld Health contracts up for renewal in the near future.


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  58. No offer at this level is flippant.

    You misinterpret me.

    Popular support amongst Ukraians for joining NATO barely topped 20% prior to 2014. And it only began to rise after Vlad Bae started taking land off them.

    And as for your near-obsession with one Victoria Nuland and her apparently mythical, magical powers of seductive mass persuasion, well let’s just say that’s your thing to contend with.

    It remains historical fact that Vlad Bae threatened pro-Russian Viktor Yaukovytch into tearing up an application for Ukraine’s membership to the EU. Not NATO. People protested against this in Maidan Square. Yanukovytch ordered them shot. There was chaos. Ukraine’s parliament sacked the Yanukovytch and he fled to Russia. And Vlad Bae took a chance amidst the chaos and started a limited invasion that the Ukrainian military at the time was relatively powerless to resist.


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  59. Rex A

    The only difference I can detect between m0nty and an actual American leftist, is that m0nty types in an Australian timezone.

    Apart from that, they’re utterly indistinguishable.

    m0nty-fa seems to take most of his points from leftist US websites, or DNC talking points emails. He is a bit short on for original thought.

    He has been a bit subdued today on the latest USSC decision today, but it will be interesting to see what he posts tomorrow, when those sources have had time to publish. However, the fantasy football might need his attention more.


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  60. My sympathy Dr. Faustus. I had always dreaded being required to endure an MRI. In fact, I believed I could not endure it.

    But during the big Drought of 2017/8 I was so stressed that I suffered a TGA – Transient Global Amnesia. The tipping point came when daughter breezily told me, on a visit to Sydney, that I needed to give a Year 10 lesson on the causes of the Vietnam War to my grandson. She obviously had no idea that 24 hours notice was not enough! But prepare I did – lesson notes, sources etc etc. The next day I drove to their place & gave that lesson & then couldn’t recall where my car was – or anything other than what happened in the previous minute – apparently. Husband came & got me, and on advice of doctor friend took me to hospital where, after a couple of hours my hippocampus “came good”!

    That was when they said I had to have an MRI to determine what was happening in the old brain. Wonders of wonders I couldn’t give a damn – “get me in there to see what’s going on”…..& it really wasn’t too bad at all. I guess when it is really serious stuff your attitude changes.

    Anyway after the customary “you have a beautiful brain” (all neurologists say that!), the neurologist asked me if I had been stressed lately…….phew, was I glad to hear that…..!


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  61. Arty ammo does not go off. They retain titanic stockpiles of 152mm and 122mm from the Soviet era.

    They reportedly ran out of 122mm for the older D-30 guns they equipped their press-ganged Donbass proxies with a month or two back (since they also onsell stocks ofthe stuff to other nations operating them), and are currently taking from Belarussian stocks to keep them supplied.


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  62. Take the train from San Francisco to New York via Chicago: desert, mountains, farmland, then down the Hudson Valley in the morning.

    Will be looking to do much the same trip again, but via a different route, in October. Counting the days.

    Amtraked from LA to NY and back again a few years ago. Epic.


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  63. Their performance to date seems to disagree with you.

    I hear the germans put up a really good resistance too, towards the end of ww2.

    donbas is cooked, the ukrainian army has been smashed by about half, meanwhile the russians are rotating part of its million man army on a regular basis and turning the fields and towns into a moonscape. at this rate there will be no more professional ukrainian army in 3-6 months. a conscript army stands zero chance to hold back the russian meat grinder.

    the only thing that is going to change the situation is nato or yank boots in the ground


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  64. This country is full of fucking useless wankers dedicated to making everyone’s life as difficult and as filled with bureaucracy as possible.

    I’m trying to watch the footy; Carlton v St Kilda. The telecast started off with the CFC banner proclaiming gender equality and the colour orange splashed all over the place – guernsey and socks as some type of outward symbol of it – (not sure how that works – perhaps it’s just a good contrast with navy blue?)

    Then, that whining Daisy someone came into view talking on the pre-game panel and on went the mute as I heard the last echoes of her expressing her support for the cause of the week.

    How many weeks of the season is enough before we’ve hit saturation level? It’s almost as if every week something needing a profile emerges from the team rooms to accost the fans.

    It used to be that everyone just watched footy without censure/restriction/control. It was escapism at its very best with thousands joined together in body and soul cheering on their team to a hopeful finals berth, or booing if the opposition was getting too much of the ball and the umpiring decisions. Just two hours that could cast out like demons all the stresses, frustrations and worries of the week .

    I’m not sure how many weeks have been left free for more incursion from the various causes pandering to raise their profile. But I’m just waiting for one of these teams to do a deal with govt and become ambassadors for Covid Jabs.


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  65. Just had my first ride in an MRI

    Had one a few weeks back, was struck by how thin the tube was that you lie in. Thin as in there are people about the place that would get stuck in it.


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  66. Popular support amongst Ukraians for joining NATO barely topped 20% prior to 2014. And it only began to rise after Vlad Bae started taking land off them.

    It should also be stated that Ukrainian government and practically all its parties’ policies from independence in 1990 right up to 2014 was formal opposition to NATO membership. And while the policy stance changed in October 2014 (Amazing what an invasion will do), the Constitutional change necessary for membership only happened in 2019.

    Again, Vlad Bae and his government bought their dreaded NATO encroachment boogeyman all upon themselves.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations


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  67. Wonders of wonders I couldn’t give a damn – “get me in there to see what’s going on”…..& it really wasn’t too bad at all. I guess when it is really serious stuff your attitude changes.

    You are in the self-disciplined cohort.
    The tech told me that 10% of his clients need medication, or can’t do it at all.


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  68. Know much about vlans?

    not as much as I should

    they’re a pain in the arse and mainly the proper IT crew get called in to handle the details

    we have some buildings where the automation and the security/surveillance share a net switch.
    some of the phys ports are assigned ours and some are theirs.

    different ip ranges for each vlan.

    often no chit-chat between vlans but then I believe there are different types of vlan membership so, that may not be exactly true

    that’s about my limit


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  69. at this rate there will be no more professional ukrainian army in 3-6 months.

    And I seem to recall on D+0 everyone who was anyone saying that they’d all be dead and Kiev captured within 96 hours.

    And there’s been a variation on that statement every other Tuesday since D+1. Usually timed to land right after the You get a Nuke! And You get a Nuke! And YOU get a Nuke! Everybody’s gonna get a Russian Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke!!!1! press release…


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  70. Seems system is not letting me copy and paste whole article from MSN despite a few attempts.

    So brief summary.

    Oz should approve 4th booster for entire population within months if wait for Omicron variant drags on. TGA considering application from Moderna

    Experts caution against waiting too long. This week FDA voted to allow Omicron specific vaccine to be rolled out in September. Advised manufacturers to update vaccines for BA4/5. Formula not been tested in humans yet. (Note : so basically already outdated and no human testing !).

    Experts Allen Cheng and Jaime Triccas of SYD Uni divided over waiting for better jab or going with 4th now (Note : doesnt consider fact 6 million not had 3rd). Nancy Baxter of MEL Uni says cant wait longer than 3 months. She said committing to a shot that targets specific variants might be a problem due to continued mutation. Monash Uni expert James Trauer said high death rate and improving 3rd and 4th booster rates should be a priority. Death rate higher than lot of Euro countries and people lost protection.

    Health Minister said Oz not performing well on booster uptake with nearly 6 million not yet had 3rd shot.


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  71. Let’s also not forget this isn’t going to degenerate into an afghan style quagmire where the considerations of women crossing a bridge to fetch water take priority over nailling combatants. The ruskies are fighting a war, the way wars have historically been thought. You know, to win, by trashing the opposition’s will to fight any further.

    The use of drones and uavs and targeted artillery and missiles has made this war particular bloody.


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  72. cohenitesays:
    July 1, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    cohenite, I didn’t see reduced human intelligence on that list but it’s obviously occurred.


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  73. BBS at 8.45:

    The telecast started off with the CFC banner proclaiming gender equality and the colour orange splashed all over the place

    Yes. I had wondered why, but then discovered that the orange on Caaarlton jumpers was to pay respect to poofs – past, present and emerging.

    Also, and apropos of the subject, an associate this afternoon referred to Carlton as ‘Carltank’. This is both accurate and excellent.


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  74. Took a few attempts but finally made it !

    KD mentioned CM mask article. There are currently 3 articles about Covid allowing comments. This in itself very rare. Huge majority negative towards further masking and jabs with the consensus being do it if you want to but dont make me do it.


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  75. Seems system is not letting me copy and paste whole article from MSN despite a few attempts.

    It’s useful to know that there is a length limit as well as a link limit to WordPress.

    Thank you for your discovery, Mr. Bourne… 🙂


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  76. And a Gadolinium dye!
    I’m a walking Rare Earth repository.

    Faustus – Known as a rare earth shift reagent, as it shifts the response of protons in certain configurations. Used that once to work out the shape of a particularly complicated molecule. Ten pages of thesis guff!


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  77. current immunity-evading Covid-19 wave

    Public Enemy Number One! On the lam and in a suburb near you.

    Where can this dastardly criminal be hiding? In the sewers? In used tissues or uncleansed hands? Perhaps it lurks under your sofa, waiting for you to doze off…and then it pounces with throttling tentacles.

    Captain Immunity eludes us too. It’s like he never really existed. Except in the minds of the deluded.


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  78. Rex,
    I have posted much longer copied articles or my own words before.

    My thought was something within MSN not allowing cutting and pasting since they had basically copied a SMH article (I believe they do pay MSM for such copying) . But even when I typed my own summary (ie. 8:56) I could not even connect to the Cat.

    Dont recall this problem before.


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  79. And I seem to recall on D+0 everyone who was anyone saying that they’d all be dead and Kiev captured within 96 hours.

    the ukrainian themselves have admitted they are losing between 500-1000 men every single day. the size of the professional army is around 190k. ukraine has admitted to losing half its military vehicles, and god know how much imported equipment. so we can surmise they have probably lost about that many men. given the war has been going on for 4 months that sounds about right.

    at this rate 100-200 days is all they have left.


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  80. Knuckle Draggersays:
    July 1, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    So this is the “gender equality” in the real world that the CFC is spruiking!


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  81. On the number of cruise missiles, etc. Russia has, and the material needed for peer-peer conflict there is a great article here, The Return of Industrial Warfare:

    The expenditure of cruise missiles and theatre ballistic missiles is just as massive. The Russians have fired between 1,100 and 2,100 missiles. The US currently purchases 110 PRISM, 500 JASSM and 60 Tomahawk cruise missiles annually, meaning that in three months of combat, Russia has burned through four times the US annual missile production.

    The estimates re shell expenditure for artillery even more staggering.


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  82. I don’t think either of the 2 missiles involved hit the mall. From what I’ve gathered, they hit the factory next door

    Yes, and you very recently linked a pro-Rus tweet disparaging Ukrainian reporting on missile and rocket strikes against civilian areas, in which the author was being smug about photos of Uragan and Smerch booster units* digging small holes where they land and saying how Ukraine allegedly wasn’t taking its audience seriously in its allegations of warcrimes because his alleged ‘bomb craters’ were too small…

    Both these Smerch and Uragan MLRS projectiles use a multi-stage design to get their range. The expended booster has to land somewhere along the flightpath.

    And given how quickly RWA ran about trying to say how few cars there were, and how it must be impossible to get fuel or anything else in Kiev because there’s a war on and all but called the photograph victims crisis actors, I’d say there’s a few issues with ethical bankruptcy there if you seriously want to cite them.

    The other problem with lobbing Kh-22 guided missiles, is that they are not precision ground attack weapons in the modern sense we are used to. They are anti-shipping missiles with a secondary ground attack capability.

    Given that they all fell within their expected Circular Error of Probability but failed to actually strike the alleged factory, this all sounds rather like cope and deflection. Especially when the rest of the thread’s photos point out the best result only got an edge of the building, and that allegedly set a fire that spread to the mall.


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  83. The tech told me that 10% of his clients need medication, or can’t do it at all.

    Last time I had an MRI, about 2 years ago, I fell asleep.


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  84. Seems system is not letting me copy and paste whole article from MSN despite a few attempts.
    I sometimes find that adding an extra full stop at the end lets the system know you’ve activated the box .. always seems to work that way for me .. LOL!


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  85. from above link

    The winner in a prolonged war between two near-peer powers is still based on which side has the strongest industrial base. A country must either have the manufacturing capacity to build massive quantities of ammunition or have other manufacturing industries that can be rapidly converted to ammunition production. Unfortunately, the West no longer seems to have either.

    I wonder where it went….


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  86. Zipster – You actually have it backwards. Russia only ever had about 250,000 because they moved to a professional army model in 2012 as I recall, under Shoygu’s predecessor. They have various other odds and sods from DNR, LNR, Wagner and the Chechens.

    Ukraine kept national service throughout, and have a large body of reservists they’ve been reactivating.

    Ukraine’s problem isn’t the guys, it’s that they don’t have arms and ammo for them. Ammo in particular is really short. Russia on the other hand squirreled away a huge amount of ammo and arms over the years, which is what they’re currently burning through – especially dumb artillery shells (ie. not airburst). Hence they actually reactivated those T-62Ms to give to the DNR guys. Sixty year old tanks! Russians never throw anything away.

    What Russia is doing works, but they’re seriously short of warm bodies. I don’t know why Putin hasn’t formally declared war (which would legally allow call up of reservists). Instead they’re fudging with whatever they can find. Some political dynamics I don’t understand.


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  87. And a Gadolinium dye!

    You can get it betting on Ukraine.
    You can get it from m0nty’s brain.
    You can get it investing in energy.
    You can get it from the old age fee.
    You can get it from performing Teals wrecking.
    As a matter of fact I’ve got it this second.
    A hard-earned MRI deserves a big contrasting agent.
    And the best contrasting agent is Gad.
    Gad-olinium.


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  88. Having just read up on Kremenchuk, the alleged target factory was apparently used for BTR-70 maintenance for a time back in 2014.

    Seriously, the strategic target planning, reconaissance and BDA processes and results for Russian air forces are about as farcical as the Luftwaffe’s were over Britain in 1940…


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  89. What Russia is doing works, but they’re seriously short of warm bodies. I don’t know why Putin hasn’t formally declared war (which would legally allow call up of reservists). Instead they’re fudging with whatever they can find. Some political dynamics I don’t understand.

    I linked it upthread.

    An interesting and unusual historical take an Estonian guy found in his rounds of Russian telegram channels on the war…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1542639879749832710/photo/1


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  90. Agree and it amazes me that people still open new businesses – Woodgrove at Melton always seems to find tenants for vacant shops.
    I live next door to a fairly big Stocklands shopping centre and these days there is at least one business closure a week but the following week someone else takes over .. hasn’t been a empty spot for more than a week in 30 years ………!


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  91. Presently, the US is decreasing its artillery ammunition stockpiles. In 2020, artillery ammunition purchases decreased by 36% to $425 million. In 2022, the plan is to reduce expenditure on 155mm artillery rounds to $174 million. This is equivalent to 75,357 M795 basic ‘dumb’ rounds for regular artillery, 1,400 XM1113 rounds for the M777, and 1,046 XM1113 rounds for Extended Round Artillery Cannons. Finally, there are $75 million dedicated for Excalibur precision-guided munitions that costs $176K per round, thus totaling 426 rounds. In short, US annual artillery production would at best only last for 10 days to two weeks of combat in Ukraine. If the initial estimate of Russian shells fired is over by 50%, it would only extend the artillery supplied for three weeks.



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  92. What Russia is doing works, but they’re seriously short of warm bodies.

    I don’t know where you get this idea from.

    from various sources

    russia has 1 million active personnel and 2+ million reservists.

    these constant operational pauses are rolling in fresh troops and removing tired and worn troops


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  93. Anyway, Sliante.

    Finished reading “Laptop From Hell” by Miranda Devine.

    Father and son Biden should be locked up and the key thrown away……just as much graft and corruption as any other banana republic..


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  94. In short, US annual artillery production would at best only last for 10 days to two weeks of combat in Ukraine. If the initial estimate of Russian shells fired is over by 50%, it would only extend the artillery supplied for three weeks

    Assuming of course, that the precision shells are expended in blanket bombardments at the same rate as Russian Batteries and Regiments might do it with their usual 152mm.

    And therein lies the ubfortunate fallibility of a Russian analyst assuming Russian fire control and bombardment tactics for American/NATO guns and munitions.

    Given similar analyses at the start of the war by Western analysts assuming American/NATO fire control and bombardment tactics for both Russian and Ukrainian forces alike when neither use anything remotely similar turned out to be equally wrong (Russia apparently has shells to burn, WW1-style. And Ukrainian distributed fire control and fall of shot adjustment by drone has made it far more efficient within the limitations of lesser munition availability), I think relying on any confident declaration of X will run out on day Y is not going to work.

    After all, the Ukes are still fighting. And Russians can only really advance where the Ukes are either all dead, surrendered or already pulled back…


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  95. Haven’t done west to east but have driven through Illinois Iowa Indiana Kentucky Missouri Tennessee North South Carolinas West Virginia Virginia and tip toed into Georgia and Winsconsin (and of course New York and LA).
    Loved it all.
    Hopefully can get there in 2023.


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  96. Armchair Zhukov’s in action.
    I’d hazard a guess that Vlad knows declaring war and calling up all reserves will go down like a lead ballon with the citizens.
    Do the parents of the soldiers really have such a hatred of Ukraine that they’d gladly have their sons killed to give Putin his victory?
    Does the general population think that standing apart from the entire western world and pushing towards a world war is sensible?
    Put your toy soldiers away lads.


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  97. these constant operational pauses are rolling in fresh troops and removing tired and worn troops

    That’s not what the soldiers on the ground seem to be saying:

    https://wartranslated.com/intercepted-call-one-half-has-given-up-morally/

    https://wartranslated.com/intercepted-call-they-just-threw-us-in-like-fcking-meat/

    https://wartranslated.com/intercepted-call-companies-have-10-15-people-left-in-them/

    If they were being properly rotated, rested and reinforced, these call intercepts would not exist.

    And Ukraine would already be bargaining for its life, if your numbers reflected the operational reality, Zipster.

    The Donbass that is so allegedly ‘cooked’ currently contains the vast majority of the forces that have invaded Ukraine. Russian troops, Wagner mercs, Donetsk and Luhansk voluntold levies and Chechen adventurers.

    They surround the defenders on 3 sides of a 100-odd km front.

    And after 4 months of all-put fighting, they have barely taken Lysychansk and straightened their line. They could not even make a substantial bridgehead over the Siversky Donets river, in order to make the much-promised cauldron for over a month in May. Despite holding air superiority, fire superiority and superior numbers in men and equipment.


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  98. Sacré bleu, Cats 😕

    Currently researching the topic of tomorrow night’s Radio Show – and I thought the others were a treasure trove.

    I love Soul and Motown so much that choosing two standout tracks is likely to be well neigh impossible.

    Feel free to nominate your favourites between now and 12:30pm and they might just be taken into consideration. 🙂


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  99. russia has 1 million active personnel and 2+ million reservists.

    Um, linky please. As I said the Russian army went over to a professional model in about 2012. That is well known and was much discussed at the time. They had about 250,000 on roster, of which about 190,000 were committed to the invasion.

    You may be conflating all three services, plus others like the strategic nuclear forces. Even in the army the Australians in WW2 had about 70,000 guys per active division of 15-20,000, which was a better ratio than the UK or US. You need a lot of desk jockies to keep the front line guys fighting.

    They do have a limited form of conscription, with an intake over 100,000 per year. However those guys are legally not required to serve outside of Russia. They can volunteer to do so, and there’s been reports of arm twisting. Furthermore there’s been an increasing intake into Wagner, who are allowed to pay more attractive salaries (Wagner now has it’s own air force! At least one moth-balled Su-25 is known to’ve been reactivated with a Wagner pilot, who was reserve air force and volunteered at good pay.)

    One issue the Russians have had is that the professional army guys have been on 1 year contracts, and in some cases even three month ones. That’s because like everyone they’ve been having trouble getting guys to sign up. Now those contracts are expiring and the guys are reluctant to renew for some odd reason like not wanting to die.

    As I said this is being fudged. DNR has been pretty much press ganging any male between 18 and 65, they’re desperate. I don’t know about the LNR and the Chechens.


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  100. I didn’t enjoy the MRI.
    Shit music and a crap sound system

    Magnets probably wrecked the speakers. 😉

    That, and audio propagation in a steel tube is shit. What was the music choice?


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  101. Haven’t done west to east but have driven through Illinois Iowa Indiana Kentucky Missouri Tennessee North South Carolinas West Virginia Virginia and tip toed into Georgia and Winsconsin (and of course New York and LA).
    Loved it all.
    Hopefully can get there in 2023.

    With my in-laws we rode motorbikes Oregon to WA State to Montana to North Dakota to South Dakota to Colorado to Wyoming to Colorado to Idaho to Nevada to California and back to Oregon.

    Unforgettable experience. The scenery, roads, history made even more enjoyable by the wonderful, open, warm people we met.


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  102. Armchair Zhukov’s in action.

    Yep. I wonder how the Soviet push through Eastern Europe, Chermany and into Berlin in 1945 would have been reported by the respective teams?

    The same way, is probably the answer.

    I just don’t care. Neither side carries the hopes of the free world with it. The Ukraine has been conquered and re-conquered in part or in full for millennia. The current contretemps just needs to be thrown on the pile.


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  103. Me too … but only after two Valium tablets! (Severely claustrophobic)

    Mme Zulu has the same problem..I agree with Farmer Gez…shit music and a crap sound system..


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  104. today I was sitting out the back in the sun-room

    had been lifting the old tiles off the floor and was taking a smoko.

    was just enjoying the wintery calm on my own while the missus was out negotiating over new tiles and curtails

    heard a noise over the back fence and I looked up and blow me down, there’s a fox with its head over our side having a look around.

    a few seconds later it walks the length of the fence and then up onto the roof of next door’s shed.

    beachy suburban Melbourne

    sneaky buggers are everywhere


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  105. That, and audio propagation in a steel tube is shit. What was the music choice?

    I went for seventies rock.
    Some bastard gathered all shit that no one liked from that era and used it on patients in the machine that went bing.
    Medical malpractice in my books.


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  106. Shit music and a crap sound system.

    Had about eight MRIs over the journey. Didn’t mind the soundtrack, although it was the same each time.

    Edit: I tried to put a vocabular representation of what an MRI sounds like, but it broke the spaminator.

    Had me bopping along nicely though.


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  107. sneaky buggers are everywhere

    Along with some poison and traps that your good self might just have laid for them?

    The last time I saw a fox in Sydney would have been about thirty years ago, in Rookwood, which has its own weird ecosystem.


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  108. I went for seventies rock.
    Some bastard gathered all shit that no one liked from that era and used it on patients in the machine that went bing.
    Medical malpractice in my books.

    Reprehensible. 🙂


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  109. Given that they all fell within their expected Circular Error of Probability but failed to actually strike the alleged factory, this all sounds rather like cope and deflection. Especially when the rest of the thread’s photos point out the best result only got an edge of the building, and that allegedly set a fire that spread to the mall.

    They hit a factory building and railway line next to the mall.


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  110. Edit: I tried to put a vocabular representation of what an MRI sounds like, but it broke the spaminator

    Clinketty clank clack

    Vrrrrrrp….

    Vrrrrrrp……

    Vrrrrrrrp…..

    Clank-clack

    Barp.*

    [Click-]
    “How are you doing in there, Mr KD?”

    * Not the machine…


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  111. Rabz, we see them all time in Melb … usually squished on the freeway.

    a few years back a mate of mine got diggers and went on a mission to remove their burrows.
    in proper suburban Melb on a bit of land … channel 10 studios in Burwood

    he told me they found no foxes that night

    but he did hear a noise in the trees in the dark and when he shone the torch the foxies were in the trees watching them dig.

    the bloke is way too Aspy to exaggerate

    word is that they use the storm water drains in the burbs to get about


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  112. I know it’s the “Daily Mail”, but I’m a self funded retiree, and paying tax. Why should I support this douchenozzle?

    ‘I’ve been a dole bludger for 20 years – I know all the loopholes’

    Ben Hoy is 42, but for the best part of the last two decades he admits he’s been a ‘dole bludger’.

    The father-of-two, who is estranged from his children, has worked occasionally since he was in his late teens, usually doing the odd ‘cash job’ as a labourer.

    In 2017, Mr Hoy told Daily Mail Australia about ‘knowing the loopholes’ to keep his welfare payment – despite him not actively looking for work.

    ‘Well put it this way, I’ve been on the dole since I was 17 and I know all the loopholes,’ he said of his 20 years on welfare.

    ‘Every time they want me to work for the dole I change job agencies and it all starts again.

    ‘They don’t follow it up, they don’t do nothing.’



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  113. DNR has been pretty much press ganging any male between 18 and 65, they’re desperate. I don’t know about the LNR and the Chechens.

    there are numerous sources, search on google for current size the russian army. this is compared to nato forces and they are about equal. given how russia feels about nato, it makes some sense, that they would size their army in terms of nato numbers.

    how much of this is russian propaganda, who knows. I am not seeing any shortage of bodies, some of this may be due to lower death rate and replacement of casualties. what we are seeing is ukrainian forces crumbling under the relentless artillery barrage.

    and putin has not called for a general mobilisation, which would no doubt happen if the west actually sent in troops. clearly at this stage there is no need as there are sufficient numbers for the current stated objective which is destroying the ukrainian army.


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  114. Amtraked from LA to NY and back again a few years ago. Epic.

    Flew from Sydney to LA in 1983. I then did LA to Chicago by Amtrack. Brillo. Flew to the UK and a 2 week Britrail Pass around the UK. Saw a couple of football matches too. Then a first class Eurail Pass for 2 months. Went to the top of Norway all the way down to Crete (the pass worked on ferries as well). Fantastic 2 months. Back to the UK then flew London to Perth with Air India (nice curries on board). Then the Indian Pacific from Perth to Sydney. Celebrated my birthday on the train with a cheap bottle of Australian ‘Champers’. I got back to Sydney with $100 left in my pocket. Happy days.

    Then I had to get a job again.


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  115. Anglo Respecter 40K ?????
    @Tinkzorg
    ·
    3h
    There isn’t a Yuri big enough for this goddamn disaster, holy shit.~€30 million in losses. Each day. 30 million!

    And that’s just one energy company in one country. This winter is going to be a shitshow of insane proportions and the russians are holding all the cards.
    Quote Tweet

    Javier Blas
    @JavierBlas
    · Jun 30
    One number to consider. Uniper probably is paying currently ~€30 million extra for the gas it’s buying in the spot market. Multiply that for 365 days: ~€11 billion. And that’s one single European utility. Now think about other big buyers of Russian gas. And start multiplying. twitter.com/JavierBlas/sta…

    It really has only just began.


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  116. ‘They don’t follow it up, they don’t do nothing.’

    Ben Hoys hasn’t been wasting his taxpayer funded lifestyle with any attempt at education.

    It’s a shame because he could become a Cat and write a book about rorting the welfare system.


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  117. Somebody posted upthread about the “Uncle Jack Charles” story.

    He’s all over the “Daily Mail”, bawling on about “It’s tough enough, being an Aborigine. Why would anyone want to pretend to be an Aborigine?”

    Dunno – ask Bruce Pascoe…….


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  118. John Sheldrick says:
    July 1, 2022 at 10:41 pm
    Amtraked from LA to NY and back again a few years ago. Epic.

    Flew from Sydney to LA in 1983…………. I got back to Sydney with $100 left in my pocket. Happy days.

    Aye. And you try and tell that to the young people of today. Will they believe you? No!


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  119. how much of this is russian propaganda, who knows

    Why would the Russians report such personnel shortages if they are #winning as bigly as you feel they are?

    And a country constantly broadening its reserve callup laws and relaxing its entry standards doesn’t sound like one that is comfortably coasting to total victory by attrition.

    But hey, Vatnik is as Vatnik cites.

    Like Dover linking Russians With Attitude’s posting of random demolition pictures and video and claiming that it’s the destroyed weapons dump/factory at Kremenchuk (that was totally a legit target and properly hit, bro! 🙁 Cucumbers and road machines are fair game!), while the factory in question is still there, behind the burnt-out mall.


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  120. Let’s also not forget this isn’t going to degenerate into an afghan style quagmire where the considerations of women crossing a bridge to fetch water take priority over nailling combatants. The ruskies are fighting a war, the way wars have historically been thought. You know, to win, by trashing the opposition’s will to fight any further.

    Excellent quote. Well said Zipster. For the short period the RAAF were involved in the shooting war in Afghanistan, their spokes-eunuch was bragging – he was really proud – about NOT dropping bombs.

    But hey, ex high-ranking officers are well trained for further government employment as ‘diversity’ experts when they leave the ADF.


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  121. BBS at 8.45:

    The telecast started off with the CFC banner proclaiming gender equality and the colour orange splashed all over the place

    Yes. I had wondered why, but then discovered that the orange on Caaarlton jumpers was to pay respect to poofs – past, present and emerging.

    Sad to hear that. Carlton’s uniforms in the 1860’s used to have some orange so I thought they were just paying tribute to their heritage. Since when did orange become a gay activist thing?


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  122. The outgoing Chief of the Army has left a legacy:

    “General Burr’s commitment to developing our people and our individual and collective cultural and ethical fitness through good soldiering is a hallmark of his stewardship of our army,” he said.

    Cultural and ethical fitness. Get your pronouns right but kill the enemy at your own peril. Just another fuckwit in the conga-line of traitors hell bent on emasculating a once magnificent fighting force. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.


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  123. I never quite got why MRI is the weapon of choice for some diagnostics and CT for others.
    Mrs P had a couple of goes at MRI and hated it – loud, cold and almost painful holding your position for so long.
    I have had a few runs through the CT and it is a doddle. Apart from the distinct (but false) sensation that you have pissed yourself just after the juice goes in.


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  124. Since when did orange become a gay activist thing?

    Yeah but that’s not even one seventh of the problem.
    How did we let the LGBs capture the whole freakin’ rainbow?
    That thing belongs to everyone, dammit.


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  125. Since when did orange become a gay activist thing?

    It’s not gay. It’s raising awareness for “gender equality and the prevention of violence against women”. Because if Carlton didn’t do that, you would never know it was going on. Except that you didn’t anyway. Nevertheless, I’m sure the Carlton board are giving themselves a pat on the back for a lovely bit of virtue signaling.


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  126. Like Dover linking Russians With Attitude’s posting of random demolition pictures and video and claiming that it’s the destroyed weapons dump/factory at Kremenchuk (that was totally a legit target and properly hit, bro! ? Cucumbers and road machines are fair game!), while the factory in question is still there, behind the burnt-out mall.

    There’s a destroyed building in the footage provided. You’re hanging everything on the building destroyed being peripheral while the buildings near the mall being central.


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  127. KD at 8:59.

    Yes. I had wondered why, but then discovered that the orange on Caaarlton jumpers was to pay respect to poofs – past, present and emerging.

    Why add the orange?
    Nothing says “gay” more effectively than the navy blue with CFC on the front.


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  128. For IT type guys might want to check out The Undeclared War on Stan. Series about GCHQ and cyber warfare attack on UK and seems the suspect is Russia. Simon Pegg main star. Good bit of retaliation is the hacker who was turning Putins office lights on and off.

    Good so far.


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  129. Nothing says “gay” more effectively than the navy blue with CFC on the front.

    That angry koala with attitude the Brisbane Bears had on their jumpers for a while was pretty limp wristed.


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  130. There’s a destroyed building in the footage provided. You’re hanging everything on the building destroyed being peripheral while the buildings near the mall being central.

    And you in turn are hanging on the hope that Russians With Attitude are unimpeachably right, when they like the spin as much as everyone else taking Moscow’s side.

    Remember all the feints from Kiev, Kharkov, Snake Island* and the Moskva making Sevastopol under its own power?

    * Quite a few pro-RUS accounts have ragequit off Twitter because of this particular reveral in the last 24 hours…


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  131. MatrixTransformsays:
    July 1, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Cheers.

    I managed to get vlans set-up in the router and AP’s for the WiFi.
    But it’s the switch that being a hassle.


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