Open Thread – Weekend 30 July 2022


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sfw
sfw
August 1, 2022 6:43 am

vr, Re econtalk, I’ve been a fan since Russ started the podcast and until the past few years have probably listened to every episode, unfortunately, since around 2019 Russ moved away from how the world works and his guests have become more gently woke and often drivel on about things that I have little interest in. When Wuflu took off Russ became a full on Covid maniac, he somehow completely lost his mind over it.

There wasn’t even a whiff of scepticism in his shows and his guests generally reflected that, Nassim Talib was on one show and he is almost unhinged when it comes to covid (and AGW), Russ sucked it all in and agreed furiously with everything he said. The only guest he has had on that pushed back on Russ’s covid mania was Don Boudreaux, Don and Russ go back a long time and both hosted the Cafe Hayek blog for many years. I think Russ was a little taken back by Dons forceful and reasonable arguments, it seemed to be a surprise to him. In the last few weeks Russ’s guests have improved somewhat and I’m listening again. I hope he can get his common sense back and get good guests on the world and how it works and fewer soft lefties. I don’t mind if he gets hard lefties, I like to hear them challenged but with the soft ones, Russ just turns to mush.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 1, 2022 6:44 am

one more?

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 1, 2022 6:48 am

Today in “No Evidence of Vote Fraud 2020” we have testimony from a computer systems expert about the connectivity of certain machines. This is devastating for media schmucks like Piers Morgan (but he’s not alone in this) who shot himself in both credibility feet by saying there was no evidence!
The machines can be hacked inside ten minutes and yes, they are connectible to the internet!

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 7:01 am

What’s that line around the block in your local state capital? It’s blokes waiting to have their bits cut off.

‘Activist’ states back gender clinics after British Tavistock Clinic is closed

State health ministers are resisting calls for an independent review into gender clinics and their use of puberty blockers on children, as the peak body for general practitioners says the nation’s transgender health centres are overwhelmed by long waiting lists.

The Victorian, Queensland and Tasmanian health ministers have stood by their state’s gender clinics, saying they operate to “stringent safety standards” in the wake of the ordered closure of Britain’s Tavistock Clinic over concerns about the safety of children in their care.

The world-leading clinic was forced to shut its doors last week after a review raised concerns that young ­patients were being referred down a “gender affirming” path too quickly and that there was insufficient evidence as to the long-term impacts of puberty blockers.

Health Minister Mark Butler refused to comment on the calls from some physicians for a review into gender clinics. The findings of Dr Hilary Cass are likely to apply equally in Australia, the physicians argue.

The Victorian government defended the Royal Melbourne Hospital’s gender clinic, saying its doctors do an “outstanding job”.

“The national standards ensure that children who are treated at gender clinics are protected by the most stringent safety standards,” a spokesman said.

Queensland Health Minister Yvette D’Ath has also backed the treatment offered to trans children in her state as being approved by leading experts.

“The care provided to children diverse in gender by the Queensland Children’s Gender Service is driven by the Australian Standards of Care and Treatment Guidelines,” she said.

The Tasmania health department said the Tasmanian Gender Service provided care consistent with national guidelines and would “adjust accordingly to ensure best practice care is maintained”.

Asked if the Coalition supported a review, opposition health spokeswoman Anne Ruston said the “safety and wellbeing of the young patients must always be our primary concern”.

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard was contacted for comment.

Tasmanian Liberal Senator Claire Chandler accused state and territory leaders of taking an “activist” position on what should be a health issue.

“The state governments need to stop taking this activist position ignoring that there is a problem and instead have a serious conversation about why we are seeing this number of kids with gender dysphoria,” she said

Royal Australian College of General Practitioners president Karen Price has disputed that a review was necessary in Australia, saying the Cass review offered a “lesson for everyone” in the importance that clinics had the resources to keep up with demand.

Dr Price said GPs could be better used to treat trans and gender diverse people while patients wait up to nine months to see specialists.

“These patients can be chaotic and they miss appointments and then they get put on the waitlist and I’ve had patients that are forced to wait eight or nine months,” she said.

“Gender identity is an important area to get right so we are doing the right thing by patents.”

Oz

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 7:07 am

Four boosters.

Up to Six Doctors Dead In Two Weeks In Canada’s Hospitals

One area now has no doctors: three from one and one from another on the same (I assume in a small) area.

https://youtu.be/cPISgEdT3pw

Cassie of Sydney
August 1, 2022 7:08 am

Test

Cassie of Sydney
August 1, 2022 7:11 am

I’ve just tried to post the Janet Albrechsten piece from The Oz but I can’t…strange. Anyway, JA has written a very good piece in today’s Oz. The Liberals have already stuffed up the “Voice” response by once again doing what they do best…which is to sit on the fence, too scared of their own shadow. The Liberals don’t know whether they’re Arthur or Martha.

As I’ve written before, the Liberals will prevaricate, quibble and vacillate, all because they’re scared of being smeared as waaaaaaciiiiiiiist by MSM scum. If they had any spine they’d wear such smears as a badge of honour and use that to counter attack the left. But they don’t and they won’t.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 1, 2022 7:12 am

News dot com: “Satisfaction with new PM at record levels”.
That would be “the mostly left media is very satisfied …”

Cassie of Sydney
August 1, 2022 7:17 am

“Anchor Whatsays:
August 1, 2022 at 7:12 am
News dot com: “Satisfaction with new PM at record levels”.
That would be “the mostly left media is very satisfied …””

Correct…I take it with a grain of salt. Shades of Kevin Rudd….and we all know how that ended.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 1, 2022 7:20 am

The Voice can look to Ukraine and name it’s top politician the ‘Minister for the Reintegration of Temporarily Occupied Territories

Mr TOT for short.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 1, 2022 7:23 am

News dot com: “Satisfaction with new PM at record levels”.
That would be “the mostly left media is very satisfied …”

Jetting about the world, wearing a new suit, ignoring questions about the country he’s supposed to represent, inflation and floods aren’t his job and getting a tick from the media, ….yes you could say the media are leftists.

Visitant
Visitant
August 1, 2022 7:25 am

Test

Cassie of Sydney
August 1, 2022 7:26 am

“ABC call for ‘reparations’ to go along with Indigenous voice
The ABC’s top Indigenous correspondent says any new advisory body should be ‘feared’ and ‘revered’ as controversy swirls around what a voice should look like – and who it would benefit.”

What will ultimately destroy Sleazy, Labor and the quaintly named “Voice” is their friends in the MSM, “friends” who will ultimately do them no favours….and it’s already begun, from the Daily Telegraph today…..

“ABC call for ‘reparations’ to go along with Indigenous voice

The ABC’s top Indigenous correspondent says any new advisory body should be ‘feared’ and ‘revered’ as controversy swirls around what a voice should look like – and who it would benefit.”

This is a clue into what the “Voice” is all about…..treaties, reparations, control, hate, division and money, money, money.

NO.

132andBush
132andBush
August 1, 2022 7:27 am

Correct…I take it with a grain of salt. Shades of Kevin Rudd….and we all know how that ended.

By the time Elbow has finished we will be hankering for the days of KRudd.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 7:27 am

Cassie is quite right.

If the Libs had any spine they’d be taking Albo to the cleaners on “the voice”. But they’ve been wedged by the possibilities of being called names.

Spineless weasels.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 7:34 am

But did the dog get to eat the Maccas?

ONE Aussie won’t be asking for fries with that after copping a hefty $2600-plus fine for bringing undeclared McDonald’s Indonesia goodies into Australia.

A passenger who recently travelled to Darwin from Indonesia was found to be carrying two egg and beef sausage McMuffins from McDonalds in Bali and a ham croissant.

The undeclared breakfast fare was among a variety of “risk” items sniffed out by detector dog Zinta.

The products will be tested for foot and mouth disease (FMD) before being destroyed.

The meal, which would cost around $10AUD, will leave the passenger $2664 out of pocket.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 7:34 am

I’m amused that some mob has recently started putting software only locked purple electric bicycles near the paths I like to walk and ride on. I wonder when the inevitable will happen?

Bye Bird Bird (Daniel Greenfield, 31 Jul)

No Big Tech bet on the real world was as omnipresent, at least in major cities, as annoying and as senseless as Bird scooters.

Convinced that the end of cars were here and that everyone wanted to ride around on app-based scooters, the streets filled with Bird scooters and then other electric bike companies, which were soon vandalized and sent to ‘Bird graveyards.’ Widely hated and heavily financed, the end of the Bird is here.

Why in the world did investors assume that having unattended scooters locked by apps lying everywhere was a great business model that would yield massive returns?

The answer is mostly cultural. This was the world how urban lefties envisioned it, and it didn’t matter that it had no connection to how people actually wanted to live.

A couple years ago another mob called obike went bust leaving big piles of dockless bicycles in several countries. The photos as in this version of the story were hilarious and disturbing. They ended up in rivers, parks, up trees and all sorts of strange places. They weren’t used much. Several other bike share companies also went bankrupt, as I recall.

Yet lefties persist with this weird lack of understanding of human nature, as evidenced by the purple ebikes now sitting hopefully around Lake Macquarie.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 7:44 am

This was the world how urban lefties envisioned it

Darwin, earlier this year. Stupid dead scooters, like abandoned shopping trolleys, everywhere.

And moronic girly men riding around on them on the roads at night, no lights. Nearly collected one with the 4WD.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 1, 2022 7:49 am

Today in Liberalism:

Snap, on ‘Mole’s thread.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 7:50 am

Dover, where and when was that film taken?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2022 7:50 am

If you’d opened your door calli you probably would have got it.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 1, 2022 7:55 am

ONE Aussie won’t be asking for fries with that after copping a hefty $2600-plus fine for bringing undeclared McDonald’s Indonesia goodies into Australia. The products will be tested for foot and mouth disease (FMD) before being destroyed.

I would test them for actual meat first…

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 1, 2022 7:56 am

2 more vaccidents at the cycling I see

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 1, 2022 8:04 am

Tesr.

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 8:05 am

Bruce O’Newk:

I’m amused that some mob has recently started putting software only locked purple electric bicycles near the paths I like to walk and ride on. I wonder when the inevitable will happen?

A calculations question for you, Bruce:
Do those things have batteries and electric motors in them?
And if so, how many batteries and motors would it take to propel HMAS “Hello Kitty” to 50% light speed?*
* With and without the 100 meter disco balls, please.

Vicki
Vicki
August 1, 2022 8:06 am

sfw – I don’t follow econtalk, but I understand the reference to the impact of Nassim Taleb on Russ & the podcast.

Taleb was, & still is, fixed in his paranoia concerning Covid. Initially, in early 2020, he convinced me that the virus emanating from Wuhan was something akin to the Spanish flu in its virulence. He argued that it was a matter of numbers (viz re how contagious) & disputed (violently) the argument of mathematician John Ioannides that it was not.

Ultimately, Ioannides was proved correct, although the narcissist Taleb still refuses to concede the argument.

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 8:09 am

Dover Beach:

And moronic girly men riding around on them on the roads at night, no lights. Nearly collected one with the 4WD.

Please ban Calli until she demonstrates better driving technique by running over girlymen.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 1, 2022 8:11 am

.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 8:12 am

Winston, if you could extract the batteries and detonate them one at a time behind your spaceship it’d be like an Orion pusher craft.

I really don’t know how the business model can possibly work. I’ve never seen one of the critters actually being ridden yet, although they’ve only been around for a month or so. They must report electronically to home base so that someone can come collect them to be recharged. Which means the company is outlaying salaries for wukkas to do that, and fuel to go around the widely distributed constellation of ebikes to collect them. How can they make a profit doing that? No one is going to spend the sort of money required to hire the things that the cost base implies is needed.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 8:14 am

“One area now has no doctors: three from one and one from another on the same (I assume in a small) area.”

This is complete and utter bs and just shows that ‘salty cracker’ doesn’t do any investigating before running off with his lazy mendacious narrative.
I guess dot wins three doctors bingo
2 cancer, one in his late sixties after a long illness

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 8:19 am

Not to mention “Trillium Health Partners is a hospital system which serves Mississauga and western Toronto in the Canadian province of Ontario. It comprises the Credit Valley Hospital, Mississauga Hospital, and Queensway Health Centre”

The three doctors were part time specialists who had practices elsewhere.
Another, Dr Paul Hannan a fifty year old former Olympian collapsed and died at a fun run. No link to ‘boosters’ and sadly not unprecedented.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 8:22 am

Perhaps there’s a link between strenuous exercise and heart problems.
and the 27 yo collapsed and died during a triathlon.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 8:23 am

ABC call for ‘reparations’ to go along with Indigenous voice

The ABC’s top Indigenous correspondent says any new advisory body should be ‘feared’ and ‘revered’ as controversy swirls around what a voice should look like – and who it would benefit.”

This is a clue into what the “Voice” is all about…..treaties, reparations, control, hate, division and money, money, money.

The whole process of “reconciliation” is being shown for the farce and sham that it actually is.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 1, 2022 8:27 am

There are some things that up with which we should not put:

GERMAN breweries have been told to stop the production of beer amid fears Oktoberfest will be cancelled after Russia cut off gas supplies

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 8:27 am

The Voice:
$34Billion/650,000 = not enough.
So how much is enough?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 8:28 am

ABC call for ‘reparations’ to go along with Indigenous voice

I know where to get $1.3 billion/yr to make the reparations with.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 1, 2022 8:31 am

If the WEF get their way and all property is rented not owned, it will be easier for a central government to cede all property to Australian indigenous persons.

Far fetched but not inconceivable.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 8:32 am

Look notafan I too am sceptical of most of these stories but there are so many of them now, something is up.

If “strenuous exercise” is the reason, why aren’t athletes routinely dying in large numbers at every Ironman or Olympic Games?

There is something exceeding mere chance going on.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 8:37 am

It is also very bizarre that such coincidence occurs that a doctor in their 40s has terminal cancer etc each time one of these vaccine injury clusters is “deboonked”.

“These fit and healthy medical practitioners all just happened to have a terminal illness cluster where they have had more boosters than primary vaccines and it looks like a vaccine injury cluster, what a coinkydink!”

What, every single time!?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 1, 2022 8:38 am

Yep, OSC.
“Always was, always will be Aboriginal land” is a nifty way to tear up deeds and start rent payments, and it will eventually lead to defaults and evictions. Even if no cash is involved, I can fully imagine what we now quaintly call “common law landowners” falling afoul of bran nue terms and conditions around Caring For Country and prostrations before Gaia.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 1, 2022 8:38 am

Chaos at Melbourne airport due to an IT glitch.

I advise all travellers to stay clear of domestic air travel on Mondays. It just ain’t worth it. Oh and good luck with the rest of the week.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 8:39 am

Perhaps there’s a link between strenuous exercise and heart problems.
and the 27 yo collapsed and died during a triathlon.

How often did this happen before mRNA vaccines and the AZ vaccine?

It’s remarkable that no one remembers this happening a lot, only very rarely.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 8:40 am

This one is from a few days ago.

New research links COVID spike protein to heart damage (29 Jul, Israel National News)

New research presented at a meeting of the American Heart Association this week and not yet peer reviewed has linked the spike protein of the coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, to heart muscle injury via the inflammatory process.

“It’s already known from the clinical side that COVID-19 infection can induce heart injury, however, what we don’t know is the mechanistic details of how this occurs. What we suspect is that the spike protein has unknown pathological roles,” said Zhiqiang Lin, Ph.D., lead author of the study and an assistant professor at the Masonic Medical Research Institute in Utica, New York. “Our data show that the spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 causes heart muscle damage.” … “We found direct evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is toxic to heart muscle cells.” Damage observed included heart dysfunction, enlargement, and cardiac inflammation, observed both in humans and in lab mice.

What they cutely don’t mention is that (a) Covid only rarely infects the heart, since it mainly causes respiratory damage and (b) that the vaccines do contact the heart in varying amount depending upon whether they are injected near a vein. I suspect they dare not mention this in their paper since if they do it’d get booted immediately. As it is the link is so obvious I don’t like their chances to get it formally published.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 8:45 am

sfw at 6:43 – Roberts is certainly a vaccine pom pom waver. Taleb’s stance on Covid is somewhat hard to understand, although it fits in with the rest of his worldview. I just read over it when he starts. On balance I think both are worth persevering with.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 8:48 am

The other thing is the Biden administration constantly lies (redefining what a recession is, all other economists just laughed at Yellen), so when the CDC says something; how much credibility do you give it?

We have Fauci literally saying YOU CANNOT GET SICK WITH COVID ONCE VACCINATED and then our own CHO saying CURRENT VACCINES DO NOT PROTECT AGAINST NEW VARIANTS. This all happened within about 8 months!

The first statement is obviously false and exaggeration and the second presumes there is no overlap at all in immunity modalities and we’ll never catch up and be living in this police state forever.

The official narrative whatever it may be is forever tainted.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 8:49 am

ALPBC opens its account. Finds a Professional Aboriginal with a bank – if you are even thinking of voting No you are a bigot. Links the voice to gay marriage referendum unsurprisingly. I expect she won’t be the first.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 8:51 am

“Always was, always will be Aboriginal land

You couldn’t defend that land.

Given that the first duty of any “Nation” is the security and defence of it’s citizens against invasion, doesn’t that show this “First Nations” nonsense for the malarkey that it is?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 8:52 am

“ABC call for ‘reparations’ to go along with Indigenous voice
The ABC’s top Indigenous correspondent says any new advisory body should be ‘feared’ and ‘revered’ as controversy swirls around what a voice should look like – and who it would benefit.”

It may sound harsh, but what material wealth did they have before whitey turned up, and which whitey took from them? Stones, sticks, and skins?

Songs, myths, relationships within the tribe – these were not taken.

I very much suspect reparations will involve compensation for land on the basis that what they owned was taken without any due process.

Well, did they ‘possess’ land, or merely live on it like any thing else? Did living on the land suddenly turn into ownership because they were homo sapiens? Did the first people to land on Antarctica suddenly become owners of the whole damned continent? Or is there more?

What is ownership? Well, I suspect they ‘owned’ their own spears and clubs. The ones that they either made themselves or which they traded for something else of their own. Did they modify the land to make it ‘fit’ them? Did they have a procedure whereby they could dispose of the land as they saw fit? Did they recognise boundaries that granted tribes or bands exclusive use even if they were unable to defend it?

And yet, it is undeniable that they needed the land to feed them and clothe them. But how to calculate a monetary value? Compensation and reparations are based on calculations of what was lost, to replace (to some extent) wealth denied or destroyed. The Germans were hit with reparations for the towns, buildings and property destroyed by the war they were being held responsible for. A value could be calculated. But what Aborigines lost did not have monetary value and did not exist inside an economic system. The opportunity to live a certain lifestyle. Can any of the people clamouring for compensation be feeling the loss? What if we offered them the lifestyle instead? Perhaps the right to wander around Royal National Park spearing fish and kangaroos and singing around a fire. I wonder how many of them would choose it? If they do not, then they can hardly claim to be suffering from the loss of it.

Mind you, it is much easier to calculate the value of what has been given to them.

The only compensation I can think has merit is not for the affected grievance of urban activists who have absolutely no desire for the lifestyle for which they would demand compensation. It is instead for their wrecked broken people imprisoned in disfunctional remote communities, left there to rot because as long as there are no white involvement then they are deemed to be living their authentic indigenous life. But, truly, I do not see how any amount of money is going to fix them.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 1, 2022 8:57 am

Did they modify the land to make it ‘fit’ them?

Hmm, not exactly. They torched it from Bondi to Broome and Darwin to the Derwent, exterminating the megafauna and almost obliterating the natural rainforests.
Not sure that ended up “fitting” them, though.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 8:59 am

…if you are even thinking of voting No you are a bigot.

The irony of calling people bigots while granting privileges by race seems to escape her.

Indolent
Indolent
August 1, 2022 9:01 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 9:02 am

BoN, 8.12:

I really don’t know how the business model can possibly work.

And:

the company is outlaying salaries for wukkas to do that, and fuel to go around the widely distributed constellation of ebikes to collect them. How can they make a profit doing that?

Because, much in the vein of renewable energy, they are very heavily subsidised by others. In these cases, councils eager to promote the concept of fun-seeking visitors having fun, lazily meandering along malls and beachfronts and esplanades and so on. They are the driving force behind these contraptions. They are geo-fenced, so they won’t work past a certain imaginary line.

You can also tinker with them so they won’t work past a certain time of day. Naturally, in Darwin they’ve thrown that concept in the bin so the ‘late evening entertainment strip’ is strewn with the fucking things, ridden by pissed-up clubbers playing chicken with traffic.

This state of affairs has led – in this neck of the woods at least – to several excellent face plants by stupid women driving them into kerbs while shitfaced, all caught on tape for posterity.

Apparently you kick them in the guts by tapping your credit card on them, which gives you a certain amount of ride time. Another ‘rates, roads and rubbish’ win for councils desperate to have them because they’ve seen them somewhere else.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 9:03 am

Cassie is quite right.

If the Libs had any spine they’d be taking Albo to the cleaners on “the voice”. But they’ve been wedged by the possibilities of being called names.

Dutton and his tail-wagging attack puppies really needs to start demand clarity from the government. Then he can lay out worst case scenarios for what Australians might end up voting themselves. This is the one thing Elbow and his carrion scavengers will be trying to avoid – letting Australians know what they are up to.

So long as Elbow is not clear Dutton can claim what he likes. He might take a stand on ‘fairness’ (a word much overused by Labor). At present every Australian (Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal) has a vote. This new body will give some people more than their vote. Is that what Australians want?

If he is really lucky they might even try to drum up sympathy with the Flora and Fauna nonsense to which Libs can soberly reply that there never was any such thing – and challenge Labor to come up with evidence.

What am I saying?

Still, it is sometimes nice to dream…

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 9:05 am

It’s the other way round dot.
Someone associated with Trillium took photos of the three separate memos regarding the deaths of Drs Segall, Mckenzie and Sawicki and cut the bottom off each before circulating, in order to create the narrative.
That alone was grounds for suspicion.
The telephone harassment of their medical practices and the social media rubbish spread by anti vaxx loons prompted the response and public announcements.
The lack of respect for the families is appalling.
The episode reminds my of the omg 52 year olds are dropping like flies of a few weeks ago.
The anti vaxx cult are so invested in being right it’s sickening.
It’s just another variation of everyone who got vaxxed is gonna die!

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 9:07 am

This was the world how urban lefties envisioned it

Funny thing, the Segway was the other business model you think they’d have learnt from.

I remember when the Segway was being developed, and eventually its founder Dean Kamen started dropping hints it would revolutionise cities as we knew them. The concept was kept a big secret and eventually released to great fanfare.

Although, like scooters, they are great fun, the designer blind spot was obvious – except to him. Segways are expensive, heavy, and need electricity – in other words if your business model depends on it then you’re stuffed in an extended blackout. But you’d think he would have seen the other limitations: open to rain and wind and cold; can’t carry much luggage, and a poor design for anyone handicapped by age, inability to balance, or can’t stand easily.

The British businessman Jimi Heselden, who acquired the company, died when he backed a Segway over a cliff. Apparently it went out of production in 2020.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 9:07 am

TE’s link at 7.01, and quoting the good Dr. Price on people wanting to turn into different people:

These patients can be chaotic and they miss appointments

Chaotic. Yes.

An apt observation of those quite rightly otherwise described as Radio Rental.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 9:08 am

What if we offered them the lifestyle instead? Perhaps the right to wander around Royal National Park spearing fish and kangaroos and singing around a fire. I wonder how many of them would choose it

I did ask one of the Noongars I went to school with, who I now see on the A.B.C, interviewed as an “Elder of the tribe” if he was interested in returning to such a lifestyle.

“Pizz off! That’s why you whitefellas invented motor cars and MacDonald’ s!”

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 9:09 am

If “strenuous exercise” is the reason, why aren’t athletes routinely dying in large numbers at every Ironman or Olympic Games?

it’s quite possible for the damage from spike protein to fly under the radar until the immune system is triggered and pushed over the edge by strenuous activity

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 9:13 am

… died when he backed a Segway over a cliff …

An electric wheelchair in reverse can create difficulties. I rarely find myself proximate to cliffs nowadays though.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 9:13 am

The official narrative whatever it may be is forever tainted.

Yes.

We have gone from every death with Covid being from Coved to every death from something else being due to the vaxx. And then they (from either side of the divide) harrumph and grunt and wonder why caution is best.

I’m finding it difficult to believe anyone.

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 9:16 am

russian rumour mill is on overdrive that the US is trying to create a new front in Serbia

Vu?i? Accuses Prishtina of Preparing Assault on Kosovo’s Majority-Serb area
Authorities in Pristina are planning an assault on the north of Kosovo where mostly Serbs reside, Serbian President Aleksandar Vu?i? claimed on Wednesday, without providing any evidence.

Vu?i?’s statement comes after the government of Kosovo issued a decision on Wednesday (30 June) requiring Serbs visiting the country to acquire a temporary Kosovo ID. This reciprocal measure mirrors Serbia’s demands for Kosovo citizens entering its territory.

Tom
Tom
August 1, 2022 9:16 am

Because, much in the vein of renewable energy, they are very heavily subsidised by others. In these cases, councils eager to promote the concept of fun-seeking visitors having fun, lazily meandering along malls and beachfronts and esplanades and so on.

E-bikes are a leftard fantasy, which is why their systems don’t work and they’re now clogging up landfills.

The one thing their designers excel at is targeting municipal councils, most of whose officers and councillors have never had real jobs so they’re prime candidates for successful scams and believe most of the fantasies about the economy and energy being fed to them by the MSM.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 9:17 am

Zippy conveniently ignoring the fact that sudden deaths and heart attacks in elite athletes has been a known problem for years
Sudden Cardiac Death (SCD) In Sports: The Most Common Medical Cause Of Death In Athletes

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 9:19 am

Dot, 8.45 last evening, and on people indigenous to a patch of land:

1. Tasmania is our India. All we need is Pakistani ISI agents stirring things up between northies and southies.

Undeniably correct. Indians from the north, and the Punjab in particular have a deep belief that (aside from the caste system) they are either royalty or very closely connected to royalty, and they treat the midland and southern Indian people as peasants.

To use yet another crikkit reference – the Punjabi team in the Indian Premier League is unsurprisingly named the Punjabi Kings, and the Punjabs (including Yuvraj Singh, Jasprit Bumrah, Shikar Darwan and Virat Kohli) are heavily over-represented in national squads.

It is said that they are very, very easily fired up over this. Try calling a Punjabi a Pakistani and see how far you get.

Indolent
Indolent
August 1, 2022 9:19 am
rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 9:20 am

I saw a lot of e-scooters in Europe, in smaller densely populated cities they probably function okay.
I also often see them abandoned on Dynon Rd near the Maribynong river, perhaps it’s the Tyranny of Distance.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 9:22 am

In other ALPBC news, Teh Paywallian Media Diary column reports the Co-op’s Antony Green is off on a WEB cycling in the Emilia-Romagna of Northern Italy. Life is good at the Hive.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 9:23 am

Winston Smith says: So how much is enough?

Foolish foolish boy.

Oz is one of the richest nations on earth per capita.

Also rated as one of the best to live in.

The answer to your question is, when all of the money has run out, and they’ve wrecked the place.

Just remember, you will own nothing and you will be happy.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 9:24 am

If you push your body to extremes over long periods you’ll do damage. Why is this suddenly a new thing?

Sure, the well trained athlete can shave a millisecond off a record, but at what cost?

If the vaxx is damaging hearts, and elite athletes are most at risk, it behooves their coaches and minders to have their hearts checked for defects. Or do they already do this as a matter of routine? I can’t think of any more physically and medically pampered human being on the planet above an elite athlete.

Dot
Dot
August 1, 2022 9:25 am

Zippy conveniently ignoring the fact that sudden deaths and heart attacks in elite athletes has been a known problem for years

Tell me how many EUFA soccer players died in 2014-2016 (or any other random two year period since 2000 pre 2020) and then compare it to 2020-present.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 9:25 am

I also often see them abandoned on Dynon Rd near the Maribynong river, perhaps it’s the Tyranny of Distance.

Back in the day if you didn’t have money for a taxi you just stole a HQ.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 1, 2022 9:25 am

It’s just another variation of everyone who got vaxxed is gonna die!

But they are going to die.

Indolent
Indolent
August 1, 2022 9:26 am
calli
calli
August 1, 2022 9:27 am

Not dead yet! 😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 9:27 am

This is from someone named Merryn Johns with AAP. Terror in the masses must be maintained:

Hot on the heels of the coronavirus pandemic, the recent explosion of monkeypox cases in countries where the infection had not previously spread has raised the issue of what other viruses are out there and coming down the pipeline.

Pandemics, epidemics, and outbreaks causing everything from mild illness to painful death, and economic and social chaos: What else is around the corner?

Even before the World Health Organisation declared monkeypox a global emergency the WHO’s emergencies director Michael Ryan said that “it’s not just in monkeypox” – the way that humans and animals interact has become “unstable”, leading to a spike in zoonotic viruses.

You can’t be a well-paid emergency director without continual emergencies.

Naturally, the piece goes on to say it’s all caused by climate change.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 9:28 am

And….I put in a yuuuuuge amount of effort gardening yesterday.

You’d think I’d be done for at my age.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 9:29 am

Daily expose of mendacious money makers.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 9:31 am

And their mindless minions.

You are alive and calli and so am I.
The funeral notices at local parishes continue to be for the very old and very frail, the most recent, a gentleman aged 93.
#musthavebeenthevaxx

woolfe
woolfe
August 1, 2022 9:37 am

Most electric scooters have geo lockers, once you go out of the approved zone they stop.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 9:38 am

Even before the World Health Organisation declared monkeypox a global emergency…

When do they start closing the bath houses and hook up joints?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 1, 2022 9:38 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
August 1, 2022 at 9:08 am
What if we offered them the lifestyle instead? Perhaps the right to wander around Royal National Park spearing fish and kangaroos and singing around a fire. I wonder how many of them would choose it

I did ask one of the Noongars I went to school with, who I now see on the A.B.C, interviewed as an “Elder of the tribe” if he was interested in returning to such a lifestyle.

“Pizz off! That’s why you whitefellas invented motor cars and MacDonald’ s!”

This is why I suggested that one of the criteria to vote for, or be a delegate to the “Voice” should be the requirement to live the old life, on country, for two weeks each year, with nothing modern to assist other than a mobile phone or radio to call for help.

The numbers volunteering would not ne high, and none of them would be city based “activists”.

Indolent
Indolent
August 1, 2022 9:40 am

Zippy conveniently ignoring the fact that sudden deaths and heart attacks in elite athletes has been a known problem for years

No, Zipping is not conveniently ignoring anything, you are.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 9:41 am

Yet lefties persist with this weird lack of understanding of human nature, as evidenced by the purple ebikes now sitting hopefully around Lake Macquarie.

Looking back over the years at the range of urgent causes that the left has championed…have any of them got any better? Would they say that there has been a downturn in domestic violence? Are there any climate disasters that have been averted and no longer threaten us? And those are just a couple of answers where they manufactured the problem*.

It kind of makes sense though. Non-problems are not connected to the real world. Nothing imposed upon the real world affects the imaginary problem. This has the benefit (from their point of view) of beating the drum and allowing infrastructure denouncing the problem to solidify and infest every corner of life without having to start all over again every few years, but it should also be recognised as showing what a calamitous record they have.

With real problems they are just as bad. Perhaps the most vivid example is from the US: Gun violence, and especially the recent spate of mass shootings. The left’s solution is stricter gun regulation, denying their citizens access to weapons even for their own protection, and gun free zones. Yet it is the Democrat controlled cities with the strictest laws where most of the gun crime occurs. And time and again you hear about lunatics shooting up shopping malls being put down by an ordinary citizen (‘well regulated’ in the Constitution’s sense, not regulated in the government sense) who has a gun in a public place.

Locally we have national parks managed so they are tinder-dry and every few years burst into flame burning great swathes through bushland and towns. We have restricted water storage offering us the Biblical ‘years of plenty, years of famine’ when dams fill brimming to the top – and which rains would also fill other dams if they had been built – only for the ones we have to emptied because they are serving twice the population they were designed for. Our schools churn out neurotic ignorant entitled children (but for the extent that parents intercede and undo the damage the teachers would do), and so on.

And yet these same lefties think they are saving the world with every nail they hammer into its coffin.

*No, I know that domestic violence is a real thing, but the DV that supposedly plagued our society was exclusively perpetrated by white men and could be a simple as white man not being complimentary enough to a woman about the meal he had just eaten. DV elsewhere was ignored (on pain of being called racist or misogynist).

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 9:41 am

Most electric scooters have geo lockers, once you go out of the approved zone they stop.

I can see them installing these on ICE vehicles some time around 2030.

Can’t have the non-compliant out motoring in the countryside of a Sunday afternoon.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 9:42 am

Change of pace.

I am posting a short comment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 9:43 am

You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

Who said that – Pol Pot?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 9:47 am

Can’t have the non-compliant out motoring in the countryside of a Sunday afternoon.

You have a Bentley too Roger?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 9:52 am

Can’t have the non-compliant out motoring in the countryside of a Sunday afternoon

Expect this to be the subject of a strongly worded motion at this year’s Woomba Miata Helldrivers AGM.

calli
calli
August 1, 2022 9:54 am

I can see my comments about caution have gone down like a lead balloon. Off to Stitch and Bitch with the Other UnDead.

I had to smile last week. One of them was very pro-vaxx and mask wearing. Stuck like a pin cushion and masked up to go shopping…every time.

Got the spicy cough anyway. No doubt I’ll be told “how bad it could have been”. Ho hum. 🙂

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:00 am

I’m not from either side of the divide.

I expressed concerns about the reporting of covid related deaths many times at sinc’s.
The 28 days post positive test being counted as covid caused even if the patient was on a palliative care pathway was one.

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 10:01 am

Perhaps someone still in the game can find out – the classic example of young males suddenly having to do work at athlete pace is the induction and training of new recruits.
Has there been a rise in sudden cardiac death in this cohort in any of the Western defence forces?

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:03 am

I’m hoping for a climate changy revolution between now and 2030.
I can see people remigrating from Australia because living conditions in India and maybe even in China are more attractive

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 1, 2022 10:04 am

H B Bearsays:

August 1, 2022 at 9:13 am

… died when he backed a Segway over a cliff …

An electric wheelchair in reverse can create difficulties. I rarely find myself proximate to cliffs nowadays though

As Hunchback found out, stairs are a good substitute for a cliff.
Don’t become a stair-Bear.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:04 am

Not possible Winston, they don’t recruit young males.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:05 am

You have a Bentley too Roger?

What else would one drive, old bean?

My man keeps it in jolly good shape too.

Arky
August 1, 2022 10:08 am

The way you are supposed to proceed is to form a hypothesis, or a thesis, then look almost exclusively for evidence to DISPROVE your hypothesis.
You assign then, a probability that your hypothesis is correct, until such time that it is shown incorrect.
Because we live in an adversary system infested with fucking lawyers, and because of human nature, the way people proceed is to start from the thing they feel or hope is true, and then look exclusively for the evidence which supports their feelings.
Stop doing that and most of the comments above from both sides of the vaccine debate would disappear, and people would instead behave with caution and restraint and be content to give the evidence time to emerge before committing to public comments about things they know fuck all about, and in particular, stop waving about their own personal choices as proof of their superior sense.
On both sides.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 10:09 am

FLAT WHITE

Canberra: where electricity is a luxury the poor can’t afford
Tina Faulk

‘Where do you go?’

They are all older women, retirees from the federal and territory public services, the ASO 5 and 6 level officers who kept the wheels of government turning – carrying out the programs, and watching their section heads and directors take credit for their work.

They’re not talking about where to eat lunch. They’re discussing where (and if) they should go to spend a few hours in heated premises to escape Canberra’s freezing weather after temperatures dropped 2 and 3 degrees below.

One who recently ‘VR-ed’ (Voluntary Retired) still goes back to her old workplace, usually late morning, when the security guard who remembers her gives a nod and a smile as she settles into one of the comfortable settees in the reception area.

Another heads for Canberra institution, the Southern Cross Club in Woden, where you can sit over newspapers and a coffee for half a day. The Hellenic Club is another popular choice.

It’s an old government service tradition in Canberra that, when winter sets in, people start arriving at their desks early. It isn’t unusual to find a roomful of people working away by 7 am. And if you rode your bike to work, braving the fog, or can convince your colleagues you have, you might even be entitled to take a quick hot shower, courtesy of the taxpayer.

Public libraries in the National Capital are now considered, by staff and patrons alike, to be ‘community centres’ where people come to read, use the computers, charge their phones, and use the toilets. It’s where clients of the NDIS, escorted by carers, are brought and propped up in their wheelchairs in front of computers or seated in deep armchairs by the magazine stands. Some, abandoned by their carers, shout incoherently for attention. Newly arrived migrants – Somalis, Iraqis, Syrians – jostle for attention of the library staff, asking for translation assistance with various forms and declarations.

Our libraries, warm and welcoming, have a crowd at their doors before the 10 am opening. A couple of those outdoor heaters that restaurants use were given a try-out a week or so ago, but vanished after a day, considered to be too expensive in use. Still, as the territory government has promised an upgrade for Woden public library, the heaters may re-emerge.

We are reaching a point where clean water and electricity are considered luxuries.

Retail electricity bills in the ACT will rise by around $333 a year for most families, the ‘typical households’ with a couple of kids and people who take hot showers and wash their clothes. And, of course, in winter, need their heating.

Residential gas bills are expected to rise by around $247 on average, adding hundreds of dollars to power bills.

Wood stoves, once officially banned, now simply disapproved of, have returned. The wood-burning pot belly stove, once a feature of many older Canberra homes, once considered illegal, is making a comeback, though the territory government has issued a plea for users of wood burners to use only dry, seasoned wood.

How, as ‘Macca’, perhaps the most-loved voice on ABC Canberra radio asked once morning, has it come to this in Australia?

That electricity that most of us as a taken-for-granted household utility, has become something that only the affluent may be able to afford is frightening. That hot water may be rationed in households – by householders themselves, if not by authorities – is alarming.

Living in Hong Kong in the late Sixties, when water pipelines were blocked by China during the madness of the Cultural Revolution, our Yau Yat Chuen apartment block was much visited, due to the fact that we, and our neighbours, had a well in the garden.

As a journalist in Jakarta, I had to remember to fill the large plastic tubs in the bathroom to cover our washing and drinking needs for the day, when the water was turned off for a couple of hours to conserve energy.

Australia’s cities, including Canberra, may be headed for similar occurrences with the shutting down of coal-fired stations and unrealistic dependence on wind, solar, and battery energy. This country is not – not yet – heading down that road. But it may soon do so.

Excuse me while I head to the local library to grab a seat before they’re all taken.

Arky
August 1, 2022 10:09 am

Adversarial.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:12 am

Tina Faulk will be popular.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:13 am

The way you are supposed to proceed is to form a hypothesis, or a thesis, then look almost exclusively for evidence to DISPROVE your hypothesis.

After having collated and studied the data.

(You knew this.)

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 1, 2022 10:14 am

ABC call for ‘reparations’

Come and take it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 10:14 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 10:16 am

Libraries are about the most useful thing an LGA does. Bins are now almost exclusively outsourced to an Australian or French multinational and could be overseen by a senior clerk with a couple of direct reports.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:18 am

Wood stoves, once officially banned, now simply disapproved of, have returned.

If things continue this way those old wood-fired kitchen ranges that also heated your water will make a come back.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:19 am

I don’t know Bruce, because omicron is a mild illness in the under 60 cohort, and a 4th jab is more or less a waste of time for them?

Franx
Franx
August 1, 2022 10:20 am

Haven’t read anything (easily accessible) to say that there was no difference in vaxxes such as Pfizer across the board.
And so I wonder whether Pfizer used the same formula in one country as they did in another.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 10:20 am

Lots of pine plantations in Canberra, isn’t there?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 10:21 am

How, as ‘Macca’, perhaps the most-loved voice on ABC Canberra radio asked once morning, has it come to this in Australia?

The pub test replaced by ALPBC weirdo “Macca”. Macca has joined AM as an instant Off at my place months ago.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 1, 2022 10:26 am

lotocotisays:
August 1, 2022 at 10:14 am
ABC call for ‘reparations’

Come and take it.

… from the ABC budget allocation.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 10:26 am

ABC Call for Reparations

To be paid to “Full Bloods” only..

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 10:28 am

Must Watch: British Police Arrest Army Veteran for ‘Causing Anxiety’ After He Shares Meme Online of Pride Flags in the Shape of a Swastika

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/must-watch-british-police-arrest-army-veteran-causing-anxiety-shares-meme-online-pride-flags-shape-swastika/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=2022-07-31
So where did the Gestapo & KGB get their recruits?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 1, 2022 10:30 am

The anti vaxx cult are so invested in being right it’s sickening.

The anti-vax cult has how many police/enforcers at its disposal to make people comply with its wishes?

The anti-vax cult has shut down segments of the health system for months at a time causing the deaths (and a lot of pain) due to cancelled treatments/operations?

The anti vax cult has been indemnified from any damages they may have caused for a medical procedure of dubious assistance to anyone under 50 (without a previous medical complication).

The antivax cult has made record profits after government massively overordered “chicken soup in a needle”

Yes there are grifters who are anti vax, their power is negligible, their reach pitiful and their ability to compel you to do anything non existent.

cohenite
August 1, 2022 10:32 am
Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:35 am

ABC Call for Reparations

Righto…let’s see them conduct a poll that asks how much each household is prepared to pony up for these reparations.

A “voice” to Canberra, you might say.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:41 am

Swedish Scientist Says Humans Should Be ‘Tricked’ Into Cannibalism To ‘Fight Climate Change’

When did lecturers in business admin with a focus on marketing become “scientists”?

cohenite
August 1, 2022 10:44 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 10:45 am

.. lecturers in business admin with a focus on marketing …

Striiiiiiiiiiiiike three. You’re out.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 10:46 am

On the Voice (not Farnham),
many moons ago I worked for a Minister who received a request from the Feds for a “nuclear waste dump” way up north nowhere near anyone (for disposal of xray machines, dentistry equipment – not bombs!).

One local tribe was very happy with the prospect as they would make some money on a part of their land that wasn’t particularly noteworthy. The neigbouring tribe wasn’t happy as the site was “close” to some of their noteworthy land. I was sent up to discuss. In the first tribe I found that opinion was actually split. In the second tribe, I found exactly the same – split.

A week later, I started getting calls from metropolitan indigenous folks from well-to-do burbs who “identified” as being part of those lands.

Well, you can imagine my surprise and bewilderment upon dropping my sandwich in the parliamentary cafe when seeing one of those “identifying” folks being the lead spokesperson for the first tribe on their ABC (despite the elders telling me they’d never heard of him).

Suffice to say, it never went ahead and I think they selected a site near Sydney Harbour.

But, in such a case, whose voice wins?

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 10:49 am

‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert

He’s an expert in volcanoes.

And relieving the public of their money with portents of doom.

m0nty
m0nty
August 1, 2022 10:49 am

The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 10:52 am

mUnty, why aren’t you dead yet?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 10:54 am

LOL

Laugh it up fat boy. Those piles of skulls in the fields probably did the same.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 1, 2022 10:56 am

As I’ve written before, the Liberals will prevaricate, quibble and vacillate, all because they’re scared of being smeared as waaaaaaciiiiiiiist by MSM scum. If they had any spine they’d wear such smears as a badge of honour and use that to counter attack the left. But they don’t and they won’t.

They had an opportunity to control the referendum by placing strict limitations in its wording so that it is nothing more than a virtue signalling impotent figleaf.

Instead, we’ve got a referendum question that could give infinite powers to unelected people. If the yes vote gets up, democracy is dead. The great reset would become unstoppable.

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 10:58 am

Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance has scrapped plans to light up the site in rainbow colours after staff were threatened and abused.

This is a complete fabrication. Avi has a piece up on it. Dean Lee is a lying swamp creature who should be sacked. First he lied about urination on the shrine during protests. Now he lies about threats.

Why are we losing? Because these vile swampy sacks of shit never get called to account.

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 10:58 am

‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert

Eat the bugs now!

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:01 am

The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

Cheering on the formalisation of his children being second class citizens in their own country.

P
P
August 1, 2022 11:01 am

dover0beach says:
August 1, 2022 at 7:42 am

Today in Liberalism:

Auron MacIntyre @AuronMacintyre · 3h
Make no mistake, something is being worshipped here

The Church is Grace Church, a historic parish church in Manhattan, New York City which is part of the Episcopal Diocese of New York.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 1, 2022 11:02 am

The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

Muttley thinks the crocodile isn’t interested in eating his fat, juicy arse. LOL.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 1, 2022 11:02 am

Is that still a statue that we want?’:
debate over NSW’s memorials
Crunching the data on a list of more than 10,000 statues and memorials in NSW reveals there are more statues of Captain Cook than anyone else. One historian asks: is this what we want there?

Winston Smith
August 1, 2022 11:04 am
Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
August 1, 2022 11:04 am

Has Pelosi’s plane been shot down yet?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 1, 2022 11:04 am

Wee Willie Wilkie wants a vote for open borders now.

Andrew Wilkie reintroduces bill to end indefinite detention of asylum seekers
In the house, independent MP Andrew Wilkie is reintroducing his bill to end indefinite and arbitrary detention for asylum seekers.

Wilkie has been working to do this for years. He says:

There are alternatives to the way we do business. We just have to open our eyes and our minds and stop this pig-headed response from both the government and the opposition who want to look tough on national security, when in fact we should look compassionate.*

Kylea Tink** is seconding the bill.

* Look compassionate, while ignoring every negative impact of self selecting onshore arrivals.
There are millions waiting to be assigned refugee slots, Wilkie wants people to be able to buy asylum.

** Performing Teal

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 11:04 am

Swedish Scientist Says Humans Should Be ‘Tricked’ Into Cannibalism To ‘Fight Climate Change’

soylent green!

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:07 am

Canberra: where electricity is a luxury the poor can’t afford

The quick solution to the government built electricity disaster is to load shed Canberra.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 1, 2022 11:09 am

Because we live in an adversary system infested with fucking lawyers, and because of human nature, the way people proceed is to start from the thing they feel or hope is true, and then look exclusively for the evidence which supports their feelings.
Stop doing that and most of the comments above from both sides of the vaccine debate would disappear, and people would instead behave with caution and restraint and be content to give the evidence time to emerge before committing to public comments about things they know fuck all about, and in particular, stop waving about their own personal choices as proof of their superior sense.
On both sides.

You are wise, Arky-san.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 11:09 am

The problem with this anti vaxx cult shtick is that there are vaccines and there are other vaccines. I for example have had dozens of vaccines without qualm, and have often said on Cat blogs how useful the fluvax is, at least for me.

The problem is the mRNA vaccines and any that have the alpha/delta spike protein.

The mRNA vaccines cause your own cells to display virus proteins, especially your blood vessel lining cells, since they tend to be exposed to the mRNA vesicle. That then can cause inflammation due to the T cells recognizing the virus proteins as alien then killing the cells they think are infected. You do get antibodies also produced, but the inflammation of the blood vessel linings (and heart cells as I linked above) cause a disease worse than the infection they’re supposed to be fixing.

The other issue is when your cells display these virus proteins your immune system can latch onto other proteins in its haste to kill the “invader” (ie. the vaccine it thinks is bad). That then can cause autoimmune disease. Which is effectively a vaccine produced version of long covid.

Both of these issues are an inherent problem with the mRNA technique now being used. Millins of people are suffering from these issues, which anyone with a brain could’ve predicted. I did in about April 2020 on the old Cat and sadly my prediction has come true.

That’s enough to go with; I won’t go into the other issues like immunodeficiency, that has been discussed in detail here.

Barry
Barry
August 1, 2022 11:11 am

Lysander says:
August 1, 2022 at 10:46 am
On the Voice
… split …
… split …
But, in such a case, whose voice wins?

Urban Abos outnumber those living traditional lives by a large factor.

So a Voice Gerrymander will be required to get the adequate representation of the reservation based wife basher against the upstanding urban darkie taxpayer.

So not only undemocratic in a white-black sense, even more so in a rural-urban / decent-violent sense. More power going to the undesired characteristics of course.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 1, 2022 11:12 am

Australia’s future, certain by winter 2023;

In Hanover and Munich people won’t get hot water in museums, swimming pools, sports halls, and other public buildings. But hey, hospitals and schools will still have hot water. In Berlin, the lights around public buildings and monuments and the fountains will also be switched off. Germany is in a world of trouble, and the cut-backs are just starting, mid-summer, to avert the tragedy that will be winter, if Russia blocks all gas. Germans have cut gas by 5-6% in summer, but in a normal year they get between 30% and 50% of their gas from Russia. All the talk of a 15% cut across the EU disguises that many of the other nations don’t want to do it, and Germany faces an extra difficult situation if they can’t get alternative gas supplies.

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/07/german-cities-start-to-turn-off-public-hot-water-lights-fountains-and-may-cancel-beer-too/

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:13 am

soylent green!

Even more reasons to buy slaughtered on farm livestock.

You can’t put anything past collective insanity.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 11:13 am

Munt, given referenda in Australia have a success rate very slightly over 16%, I wouldn’t be getting too carried away.

And this one has two BIG problems:

1) Doesn’t have any detail and just about every caller to radio this morning bemoaned that fact,
(2) The more detail comes out, the less people will like it.

Remember the last 7 referenda, some of which were fairly benign in nature (like adding a preamble) were NOT carried by ANY States at all.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 1, 2022 11:13 am

In other ALPBC news, Teh Paywallian Media Diary column reports the Co-op’s Antony Green is off on a WEB cycling in the Emilia-Romagna of Northern Italy.

Hope he’s on the look out for an out-of-control parmigiano cheese wheel lest he come to grief.

m0nty
m0nty
August 1, 2022 11:15 am

Cheering on the formalisation of his children being second class citizens in their own country.

Hahaha, cry more. Pathetic.

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:17 am

But, in such a case, whose voice wins?

I predict even more enthusiastic Agincourt re-enactments by the “indigenous” as this is sorted out.

Investment tips: go long on chain mail!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 11:19 am

The other problem is a wider one, which is that data collection is now so corrupt that no one can believe the official data. This has been going on for a long time, especially since the turn of the century as the climate fanatics got control of the official climate data. Which is now so distorted that it doesn’t match what you see out of your window in many cases.

The same now has proceeded to health data. Such incredible pressure has been on medical professionals not to report vaccine injury from the Covid vaccines that the data is now completely unbelievable. And official propaganda is everywhere.

Again this distortion of data collection is due to the subversion of the systems by the fanatics. We get the same increasingly with other data such as economic indices and immigration data. All to serve political causes.

Consequently since there’s little believable official data you get people adding 2 plus 2 to get 22, since they only have what information they can locally get themselves, and have very little trust. Especially not in the authorities.

There’s going to be a crack up as this corruption of systems hits the ultimate wall. I don’t know what it will turn out to be like, but it’ll be ugly.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 1, 2022 11:20 am

We have restricted water storage offering us the Biblical ‘years of plenty, years of famine’ when dams fill brimming to the top – and which rains would also fill other dams if they had been built – only for the ones we have to emptied because they are serving twice the population they were designed for.

Back in the late 80s a lefty told me Australia could not sustain a larger population. It turns out he was right. Sydney is served by about 9 dams of which Warragamba holds about 91% of the total water capacity. The law of diminishing returns absolutely applies here. More dams would make little difference, certainly less than increasing Warragamba’s wall height.

And it’s not simply because we’re a dry continent. We’re an old continent, which means there is little capacity for water storage compared to elsewhere in the world. The only solution is to limit population via reduced immigration, but that doesn’t help their agenda.

Sydney Trains job ads had a 12 million people by 2050 spiel, which is clearly proposterous. This needs to change.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 11:21 am

The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

mUnter, several days ago:

‘These may be the last words I write. The Angel of Death hath come, and looms large over the last moments of my existence. Begat from dust, and to dust I shall return.’

Today:

‘you lot’

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 1, 2022 11:23 am

Meme;

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rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:25 am

Hahaha, cry more. Pathetic.

NPC

Years of regurgitating “the talking points” whilst managing to never contaminate them with any originality.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 1, 2022 11:25 am

On the Voice Vote, I am obviously a bigot.

No no no no no no no no.

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 11:26 am

COVID Tests and Ancestral Kits Used by Chinese Firms to ‘Mine’ US Citizens’ DNA Data | Crossroads
Chinese Communist Party-linked genomics firms have been using COVID test kits and ancestral kits to ‘mine’ the DNA data of Americans. U.S. intelligence officials have also warned that these could be used to create bioweapons and tracking systems around biometrics.

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 11:27 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 11:28 am

I predict even more enthusiastic Agincourt re-enactments by the “indigenous” as this is sorted out.

The various Land Councils will take a leaf out of the Barnaby Joyce book, when he was questioned over whether Federal MPs needed to be vaccinated:

‘It will just lead to arguments.’

Because they’re already heavily invested in distributing royalties to preferred family groups (taking ‘operational expenses’ off the top), they will adopt their usual posture – which is ‘Those people don’t know what they really want. We’ll look after the reparations for them.’

m0nty
m0nty
August 1, 2022 11:29 am

Referenda are ripe for wedging. Howard used the wedge to great effect in this way.

Albo is trying to wedge this one in, rather than wedge it out like Howard did. Good time to do it, as the Libs are a hopeless rump of a party at the moment, led by a cadaver.

Of course Dutton is going to oppose it, he knows no other way. He’ll just look even more powerless than he does now.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 1, 2022 11:30 am

(2) The more detail comes out, the less people will like it.

As soon as “reparations” were mentioned, that’s a certain NO vote from me.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 11:31 am

One historian asks: is this what we want there?

Is that a question of history?

Anyway, it is the progressive thing these days. Demonise history.

Whatever virtues upon we pride our society those before us advanced it one step at a time. They couldn’t do it all at once, and they did not have the benefit of hindsight that we have – they could not check the answers at the back of the book.

But they got us here.

They pared back the power of absolute monarchs and built democracies. They discovered new medicines that extended lives and spared innumerable people from disfigurement, deformity, and pain. They saw plight of the destitute and the sick and established societies and programs to provide relief and succour. They saw injustice in their worlds and one step a time righted it.

It was the hated privileged empowered white people who liberated the black slaves, not the slaves themselves. It was the hated privileged empowered men who gave women the vote, not the women themselves (I mean, that’s the point: They didn’t have the power.)

Captain Cook sailed his little ship around the globe. He made measurements, collected and catalogued specimens, visited new lands and made overtures to bring their people into touch with his own world, even made a point of carrying enough citrus so his crew would not get scurvy – looking for a way to make thing better.

Well, he might have done that but in his time scant regard was given to trans kids and women were brought up to become wives and mothers rather than lesbian judges. So the man was a monster.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 1, 2022 11:32 am

Man I am in a rant-y kind of way today.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 11:33 am

Beery – The trouble with that hypothesis is encapsulated in the Tillegra Dam fiasco.

Proposed in the 70’s and tied up in green left politics ever since. In 2015 it was ready to go, and would’ve covered the water supply needs for the rapidly expanding Hunter and Central Coast areas. Then Nobody’s Girl finally managed to kill it, and to keep it dead sold off the land that had been set aside for it.

About a year later we were in water restrictions, and Hunter Water announced that they’d be building a stupid desalination plant. Sheesh.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 1, 2022 11:34 am

Albo is trying to wedge this one in, rather than wedge it out like Howard did. Good time to do it, as the Libs are a hopeless rump of a party at the moment, led by a cadaver.

If Albo was smart, the referendum would be this Saturday. The longer it takes, the worse it goes for the yes vote. But we all know Albo isn’t smart.

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:36 am

Today:

‘you lot’

The outpouring of sympathy for this fascist fuck was pretty inexplicable.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2022 11:38 am

First time for Bunnings. Playing Hey You, Pink Floyd. Not the first time I’ve travelled 50km for them not to have an item but the online catalogue says they do.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 1, 2022 11:41 am

mUnter, several days ago:

Got him out of the housework and into a gross of sympathy doughnuts, tho’.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 11:44 am

The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

The best thing about the Red Wave stuff is that it sends you absolutely spare, LOL.

You’re going to get so sick of #Winning Munted.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2022 11:44 am

I see the village idiot has cured himself of the coof, double dose of stupid with a booster shot every day after.

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 11:45 am

Not the first time I’ve travelled 50km for them not to have an item but the online catalogue says they do.

Any excuse to buy a snag on bread!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 1, 2022 11:46 am

Jefferson on war taxes..
‘Sound principles will not justify our taxing the industry of our fellow citizens to accumulate treasure for wars to happen we know not when, and which might not perhaps happen but from the temptations offered by that treasure.’

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 1, 2022 11:46 am

Yep, you get the impression The Father of Middle Class Welfare was happy to have the Republic referendum fail. Didn’t put him off Lord Waffleworth however.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 11:47 am

Referenda are ripe for wedging. Howard used the wedge to great effect in this way.

Monty – The Left has likewise corrupted referenda. They carefully craft wishy washy questions to seduce a vote in the direction they want, to give a fake justification for what they want to do.

Then if the public still refuses they try over and over again, after more softening up exercises.

It’s all fake.

Examples which are pertinent are the Scottish Independence referenda and the Oz Republic referenda. Another is the European Commission propensity to hold referenda over and over in recalcitrant countries until they get the “right” answer.

This is not a democratic approach, it is a mendacious tactic. You cannot make a population do what they don’t want to do. You can fool them for a while, but once they wise up the results will be worse for the political activists than if they’d just honestly let the people decide. Possibly a lot worse.

m0nty
m0nty
August 1, 2022 11:50 am

The best thing about the Red Wave stuff

Yeah, about that. I hear that the close Senate races are tending to trend towards Democrats, as the GOP have put up a string of clowns who can’t campaign for peanuts. It might not be so much of a wave as you think.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 11:51 am

Indeed Bruce and a very good point.

Let’s remember how many times they polled the Irish on EU? Three times???!

shatterzzz
August 1, 2022 11:51 am

Methinx AnAl needs to find a “voice” very quickly .. $15 schooners coming to apub/club near you .. LOL!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/beer-tax-price-increase-largest-in-three-decades/32f48152-fbce-4655-a3f8-8a35f3966e62

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 11:56 am

Not the first time I’ve travelled 50km for them not to have an item but the online catalogue says they do.

Yeah me too, now I am ensconced as Mrs TE’s handyman and digger of garden holes. One way around it – use Click and Collect. You pay once they have the item stuffed behind the service desk, and then just go in and grab it guaranteed.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 11:58 am

Yeah, about that. I hear that the close Senate races are tending to trend towards Democrats, as the GOP have put up a string of clowns who can’t campaign for peanuts. It might not be so much of a wave as you think.

Where’d you hear that? CSPAN, CNN or on the Man Shake blog?

You’re going to get so sick of #Winning Munted.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 1, 2022 12:03 pm

The Voice:
$34Billion/650,000 = not enough.
So how much is enough?

How much you got!

rickw
rickw
August 1, 2022 12:03 pm

Up to Six Doctors Dead In Two Weeks In Canada’s Hospitals

A lot of problems fix themselves, you just need to be patient.

Zipster
Zipster
August 1, 2022 12:18 pm

Any excuse to buy a snag on bread!

soon to be bugs on kale

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 1, 2022 12:22 pm

Up to Six Doctors Dead

Followed by:

you just need to be patient

Ahaha. Got it.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 1, 2022 12:23 pm

I’ve tried that TE. They never got back to me when it was out of stock, even though online it was still listed as in stock. I don’t buy sausages at bunnings rickw. They won’t put the onions on top and now at $3.50 my Scottish heritage kicks in. Short arms, deep pockets. Besides I need to lose some weight.

Arky
August 1, 2022 12:34 pm

Dr Drew, lipid nano particles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxV5PObRgI
..
It ends up in your balls and ovaries.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 1, 2022 12:41 pm

cohenitesays:
August 1, 2022 at 10:32 am
At last, some helpful climate change advice:

Swedish Scientist Says Humans Should Be ‘Tricked’ Into Cannibalism To ‘Fight Climate Change’

The trouble is, klimate fanatics are so bitter and twisted, it would be like having a liquorice steak.

Speedbox
August 1, 2022 12:41 pm

Over on my post about EVs, I just added this comment which I thought may also be of wider interest to other Cats.

HT says:
Now, that’s JUST the cars, don’t get me started on infrastructure to run this stuff.
——–
Couldn’t agree more. The cost will be gigantic. Governments will spend no less than $US60 trillion over the next 28 years to achieve the emissions target by 2050.

For clarity, I am not involved in EVs (or any industry associated with them, or renewable energy). I am merely pointing to the vast transformation underway. Right or wrong, its happening.

As for infrastructure and constraints, look at this:

“West London faces new homes ban as electricity grid hits capacity”

https://www.ft.com/content/519f701f-6a05-4cf4-bc46-22cf10c7c2c0

(The link also dovetails an earlier comment by Old Ozzie).

Governments will spend any amount of money, which we will all repay, to achieve net zero. The environmentalists push to that target has captured sufficient critical mass of governments/politicians and cannot be stopped.

Roger
Roger
August 1, 2022 12:42 pm

Crunching the data on a list of more than 10,000 statues and memorials in NSW reveals there are more statues of Captain Cook than anyone else. One historian asks: is this what we want there?

After all, what did Captian Cook ever do for us?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 12:43 pm

The Voice:
$34Billion/650,000 = not enough.
So how much is enough?

How much you got!

Pensioners in Venezuela get $28 per month.
That’s April 2022 numbers, less now after hyperinflation.
The aboriginals can have what’s left after paying for the loaf of black bread.

rosie
rosie
August 1, 2022 12:43 pm

Dot, as you made the claim re eufa deaths how about you provide the evidence to support your assertion?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 1, 2022 12:43 pm

m0ntysays:
August 1, 2022 at 10:49 am
The best thing about the Voice stuff is that it sends you lot absolutely spare, LOL.

No, the best thing is that it exposes you and your ilk as the racist scum that you are.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 12:45 pm

Lead article on the Daily Mail site:

What exactly IS the ‘Voice to Parliament’ they want Australians to vote for? Aboriginal ABC editor calls for payments to First Nations people for past injustices – and she wants it to have real power

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 1, 2022 12:45 pm

mUnty, why aren’t you dead yet?

When the zombie apocalypse strikes and we’ve all taken up cannibalism, we’ll be coming for m0nty. Until then, keep him on the doughnuts.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 1, 2022 12:46 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
August 1, 2022 at 11:02 am
‘Is that still a statue that we want?’:
debate over NSW’s memorials
Crunching the data on a list of more than 10,000 statues and memorials in NSW reveals there are more statues of Captain Cook than anyone else. One historian asks: is this what we want there?

Better question: Is that historian what we want here?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 1, 2022 12:47 pm

Includes a poll, presently running at:

Should the Australian Constitution be amended to include an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?

Yes 8%
No 79%
Unsure, I need to know more about it 13%

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 1, 2022 12:48 pm

Swedish Scientist Says Humans Should Be ‘Tricked’ Into Cannibalism To ‘Fight Climate Change’

Eat the rich, said Rosuseau.
Literally, unless they’re very careful.

vr
vr
August 1, 2022 12:49 pm

SFW — Completely agree about Econtalk. The lowpoint was the episode with Tyler Cowen in 2020 where he absolutely lost it about covid. Was very emotional and sounded like he feared for his life. He is coming around lately, though he does say that he wants to expand the issues covered on the podcast. He is one of the very few in a public forum gives Trump credit for Operation Warp Speed.

Lysander
Lysander
August 1, 2022 12:50 pm

Liebor are proposing that all skilled migrants into Australia be automatically “registered” with a union.

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