1,483 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 2 Aug 2022”

  1. Gabor says:

    August 3, 2022 at 6:34 am

    Is Tom late or given up?

    Apologies.
    Looks like it was only me, didn’t see anything new, and refresh didn’t work.


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  2. (Not in Oz.)

    Colour me surprised.
    We’re so anti-gun, the 2026 Victorian Commonwealth Games has (unless something changes) excluded shooting sports from the program…just as Birmingham has just done.


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  3. Dover, more than a handful of serious (ie non deep state surrogates) have picked up on the Biden administration feeding Friedman & the NYT the Zelensky story you first posted yesterday.

    One view is the administration was floating a balloon to see how the blue ticks with the Ukrainian flag in their profiles would react.


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  4. Looks like it was only me, didn’t see anything new, and refresh didn’t work.

    Gabor – I was lucky and got in just before the turn of the page. Now I can’t see Tom’s toons. For some reason the previous page is only displaying up to 12 midnight.


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  5. 2dogs says:
    August 3, 2022 at 6:36 am

    Dover, could you let numbers back on

    It would be interesting to hear what the anti-conscription Numbers has to say about Ukraine.

    It’s simple and predictable, he would say, ‘they are fighting for their homeland, not a foreign war’
    and actually, he would be right.


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  6. It would be interesting to hear what the anti-conscription Numbers has to say about Ukraine.

    He was never anti-conscription (he even wanted to conscript Australian youth to work in remote camps), he was just anti-conscription to fight his fellow communists.

    It’s all in his blog, if you’ve got the stomach for it.


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  7. Surely that wrinkly old skank is setting herself up for a crack at being POTUS.

    It’s been said before by others, but she’ll run this as a ‘sniper fire in Bosnia’ moment.


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  8. We’re so anti-gun, the 2026 Victorian Commonwealth Games has (unless something changes) excluded shooting sports from the program…just as Birmingham has just done.

    Disgusting.

    It has always been a legitimate sport, what about the brave Ukies blowing away the evil gopniks?


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  9. Bruce of Newcastle says:
    August 3, 2022 at 6:42 am

    Looks like it was only me, didn’t see anything new, and refresh didn’t work.

    Gabor – I was lucky and got in just before the turn of the page. Now I can’t see Tom’s toons. For some reason the previous page is only displaying up to 12 midnight.

    Thanks BoN, I was going a bit paranoid being locked out, the last post I saw was by JC, yes about midnight.


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  10. Gabor and BON,
    Similar experience here. Several refresh attempts. No sign of posts from midnight to 6:30am. I have trouble with this site over the previous week.


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  11. It would be interesting to hear what the anti-conscription Numbers has to say about Ukraine.

    Every sentence would start with ‘Welllllll, when I was a malingering incompetent tent-shooting blame-shifting publicity-hound cameraman masquerading as a victim, I….’

    There’s years of this shit taking up space on the internet that would be better served as tentacle porn storage.


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  12. There’s years of this shit taking up space on the internet that would be better served as tentacle porn storage.

    Part of it is:

    “She was small and lithe, but not an enthusiastic performer and we were through in a few minutes. Her breath smelled of whisky, and her face was covered by acne or smallpox scars, previously hidden by a combination of make up and dim light in the bar. As soon as she dressed, she said, “You go now – soon my brother come.”



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  13. Just testing, it’s 0711 am and the latest comment I can see is from JC posted at 1200am. Refreshed the page several times and left it alone for a half hour but still reverts to that same comment. Using a pc with Brave and a VPN.


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  14. not an enthusiastic performer

    Having a whinging, slobbering communist draped all over me would hardly inspire optimal output.

    She clearly just went through the motions and pretended…much like Bob did throughout his tour.


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  15. “Dover, could you let numbers back on

    It would be interesting to hear what the anti-conscription Numbers has to say about Ukraine.

    It’s simple and predictable, he would say, ‘they are fighting for their homeland, not a foreign war’
    and actually, he would be right.”

    Firstly, I don’t want Numbers here.

    Secondly, with Numbers his attitudes are always selective, it depends on the homeland and who’s fighting for their homeland. Israel and Jews don’t count.


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  16. Niall Ferguson
    @nfergus

    Trump liked to point to one of his Sharpies and say, “This is Taiwan,” then point to the Resolute desk in the Oval Office and say, “This is China. … Taiwan is like two feet from China. We are 8,000 miles away. If they invade, there isn’t a f***ing thing we can do about it.”

    The only people that benefit from Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan are her donors.


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  17. Battery news.

    Netanya fire caused by lithium battery (2 Aug)

    A Monday morning apartment fire in the coastal city of Netanya was caused by a lithium battery, Kikar Hashabbat reported, quoting the Fire and Rescue Services.

    The Fire and Rescue Services added that since the start of 2022, approximately 121 fires broke out in Israel due to batteries, most of them causing severe damage to the apartment and the surroundings (stairwells). In 2021, a total of 214 such fires broke out, leading to the deaths of six people. That year, over 200 apartments were burned due to unsafe use of lithium batteries.

    While the story is a local Israel one, I thought the last para was pretty breathtaking. Israel isn’t a big place yet there were 214 serious lithium battery fires and six dead in just 2021. Wow.


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  18. Look, I don’t want to alarm anyone but this is apocalyptic.

    Obviously The Great Censorship has begun, as warned of time and again by Trusted Bloggers.

    Only two days left to Save DoverCat! Donate now!


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  19. Memo to Matthew Guy:

    Nancy Pelosi is threatened by China for daring to even visit Taiwan.
    Dan Andrews was willing to sign a Belt & Road deal with China and had to be stopped by the Federal government for national security reasons.

    Kick Andrews in the nuts every time he opens his stupid mouth. Target the man and you will win.


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  20. Site froze at midnight for me as well – plus my ID below the comment box vanished after I tried to refresh the page. The last comment I could see was Rabz’ at 12.00.

    I still can’t get anything if I try to refresh from that comment. Managed to get back through a new tab and clicking on the latest comment on the sidebar – although I tried that last night and it didn’t work.


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  21. “Kick Andrews in the nuts every time he opens his stupid mouth. Target the man and you will win.”

    Indeed but such action needs to come from a man. Groundhog Guy ain’t no man. Far easier for him to target low hanging fruit like Bernie Finn.


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  22. Numbers, being a teacher, thought he should give a prostitute a performance report, being so dissatisfied rankled for so long, he had to write about it in a book.

    His tell it warts and all excuse remains pitiful.
    I’m surprised he didn’t write and ask for a refund, if only she had an email address.


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  23. I’m on my phone.
    Other than that little hiccup a couple of weeks ago with an error message, and having to sign in again once a few days ago, zero problems.


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  24. Pelosi will leave Taiwan with millions of dollars worth of shares for a Taiwanese company that only that morning had a large contract award announced, the Taiwanese strategic reserve of ice cream depleted, and everyone in Taiwan astonished that she did it so brazenly – unaware that those strange hand movements of hers are actually a method of hypnosis.

    Meanwhile CCP agents will have infiltrated the staff at the hotel where she stayed, taking samples of the toilet water to test trace chemicals for her state of health, replacing her medications with stronger prescriptions, and replacing her spare skin-suits (which frankly don’t hang that convincingly upon her – and the faces don’t move at all) with new ones that are resistant to chemical and biological agents, as well as radiation, holy water, and crucifixes.

    Why waste a missile blowing one plane out of the air when they can let her go home and get the Americans to ground them all. Besides, the last thing they would want is to create a situation where the harder heads in the military would be strengthened while the likes of Thoroughly Modern General Milley are sidelined.


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  25. I joined the Vic Libs 2 years ago when lockdowns kicked in with the single aim of getting rid of Dictator Dan. Since then all the Libs have done is kick me in the nuts. Between Treaties and Emission targets I’m stuck between a rock and shit place.


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  26. I think we can safely predict numbers views on any subject.
    He’s the classic pseudo Catholic hypocrite
    ssm, good
    abortion (I wouldn’t have one hawhaw), good
    Priestesses, good
    Israel bad
    Palestine good
    Coal bad
    Nuclear bad
    Wind sun good
    Electric car good
    Petrol car bad (except for my miata fleet cos I’m special)
    International travel bad (except for me cos I’m special)
    Profit bad (except mine because I’m special)
    Capitalism bad
    Communism good (cheerful squalor for little brown and black people but not for me because I’m special)
    And so on


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  27. Yes, the site has “forgotten” my name and address a few times.?

    That’s the only glitch I’ve experienced on the good old Android using Chrome.


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  28. It has always been a legitimate sport, what about the brave Ukies blowing away the evil gopniks?

    Is Javelin throwing, shotput and discus tossing still in there? They were first included in the original Olympics because they were martial skills.

    What about wrestling? Or better – boxing. How to beat someone up. We have now mentally separated the skill from its use, why can’t they do that with shooting?


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  29. Mother Lode says:
    August 3, 2022 at 8:21 am
    It has always been a legitimate sport, what about the brave Ukies blowing away the evil gopniks?
    Is Javelin throwing, shotput and discus tossing still in there? They were first included in the original Olympics because they were martial skills.

    What about wrestling? Or better – boxing. How to beat someone up. We have now mentally separated the skill from its use, why can’t they do that with shooting?

    Yep.

    I like bacon, cigars, women, dogs, martial arts, fast cars, whiskey, rugby, hockey, shooting, fishing.

    Some little brat somewhere – a “Someone Crapman” has a reason why all of those should be banned, also including things I like but don’t do myself like soccer (Arsenal!) and moto bikes.

    This is why the anti gun thing is so shitful. It’s the first stop to a safety obsessed world of misery.

    The kind of idiots that would make the military useless so it can become “a safe working ‘nvironmemt”…


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  30. CNN Denies We’re In A Recession To Boost Biden

    Ha! The only people who watch CNN are the poor inmates of airport lounges around the US. On weekday a lot of those people are flying on business. They will know first hand the parlous state of the US business and the Biden economy.

    What a sight CNN is. A confirmed liar that is still lying, ever more transparently, because it thinks it is getting away with it.


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  31. Just in case anyone doubts that 251s don’t have a “voice” have a look at this list of 51 organizations funded by the mug tax-payers for the benefit of 251s ..
    no wonder LIDIA can afford, culturally approved, designer clothing for her “we-lives-in-poverty” protests! ..
    and this is on top of the $30billion already poured into the bottomless pit, yearly ……. FFS!

    https://ibb.co/swr2k0B


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  32. Gabor and BON,
    Similar experience here. Several refresh attempts. No sign of posts from midnight to 6:30am. I have trouble with this site over the previous week.

    I’ve been having the same problem. Both using Chrome on my android phone and using Safari on my IPad.


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  33. Pelosi Arrives in Taiwan, Voicing ‘Unwavering Commitment’

    I didn’t realise Pelosi has long been a thorn in China’s side over Taiwan and that this visit is the culmination of standing up to China’s bullying.

    That’s one positive contribution she’s made, at least.


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  34. I must say that I think Numbers’ contribution to education could have been a great one.

    Unfortunately they made him a teacher, instead of a lesson.

    Put him in a soundproofed glass trolley and wheel him into class rooms where the teacher could give a bit of a summary of the miserable crotchety old goose while the kids look at his eyes bulging in his red-hot face, arm flailing about, just within hearing the edge of his rancorous shouty fulminations. At the end the kids could get T-shirts with a picture of him railing at…stuff, above which is written “Cranky Conscription Man Is Always Angry”, and beneath “Don’t Be Cranky Conscription Man”.

    He could be a guest on Romper Room for the littlies. “Do-Bee a friend and a helper. Don’t-Bee a Cranky Conscription Man.”

    Do they still make football cards?


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  35. Hurry up! When you can still take out cash/China’s banks have the lowest capital levels in 30 years
    China Insights

    According to reporters from the Shanghai Morning Post, in addition to the Agricultural Bank, the field assessment of 20 bank ATMs of 14 leading banks found that only 5 function normally, 7 have restricted functions, some have shortened hours, and more than half of the banks ATMs are paralyzed and not working.
    The storm of unfinished buildings has already started and people have decided to stop repaying their mortgages; the rest of the consumers have no intention to buy homes and take out loans. The capital chain in the financial system of the Chinese Communist Party has suddenly broken.
    The international environment is no longer rosy either. For years, China has benefited from a business cycle that has kept pace with the US. However, with inflation nearing double digits, the U.S. is now rapidly tightening its monetary policy. As interest rates in China and the U.S. converge, there is more incentive for capital to flee China, and while China’s banks have tightened restrictions on dollar outflows, this has not stopped the outflow.


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  36. If Pelosi thinks she’s got a shot at the top job or VP she’s been sniffing her own farts for too long.

    Similar to when Randy moved the family to San Fran from South Park.


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  37. If Pelosi thinks she’s got a shot at the top job or VP she’s been sniffing her own farts for too long.

    Next to the Bidens and the Clintons, the Pelosis are the peak crustaceans of the corrupt American gerontocracy.

    Americans have had enough of the old codgers. The country needs to be run — and actually elected by voters, not nominated by Democratic Party election cheats — by someone from the median age group. #DeSantis in 2024.


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  38. Pocock sounds like he’s captured the Zeitgeist. Another $200k++ well spent. Only 6 years till he can be turfed.

    Territory senators are elected at each election. If the electors of the ACT come to recognise that Pocock is an idiot then they will have the chance to boot him next time. However given the mendicant nature of most electors in the ACT that is a long shot.
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  39. In these dismal days when with each headline the inky blackness edges one step closer to us and we wait in a shrinking circle of light, resigned to the inevitable, there are still heroes whose deeds give us some strength to fight back against the encroaching darkness.

    A hero for our times!


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  40. Also from The Sweeney – Det. Insp. Jack Regan:

    I sometimes hate this bastard place! It’s a bloody holiday camp for thieves and weirdos – all the rubbish. You age prematurely trying to sort some of them out. Try and protect the public, and all they do is call you fascist. You nail a villain and some ponced-up pinstripe Hampstead barrister screws it up like an old fag-packet on a point of procedure, then pops off for a game of squash and a glass of madeira. He’s taking home thirty grand a year, and we can just about afford ten days in Eastbourne and a second-hand car. It’s all bloody wrong, my son.


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  41. Public health “experts” caught out, again…

    For decades, skimmed and semi-skimmed milk has been advised as a way of reducing weight and helping to prevent heart disease. However, these guidelines were introduced before rigorous research was carried out to see if the theory was true.

    In recent years, research has been carried out [at the University of Copenhagen] to test whether eating low fat has scientific validity. So far, the research suggests that full fat dairy is no worse than low fat dairy and may be healthier. Previous studies have shown full fat dairy to be associated with lower risks of type 2 diabetes, for example.

    via Diabetes.co.uk


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  42. Tom

    Americans have had enough of the old codgers. The country needs to be run — and actually elected by voters, not nominated by Democratic Party election cheats — by someone from the median age group. #DeSantis in 2024.

    And Trump appointed for a limited two year term as “Swamp Draining Tsar”.


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  43. I hope that’s all Xi’s bunch do.

    The ccp is a cancer on humanity, there is no co-existing with this regime. The longer we leave the inevitable the greater the human toll.


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  44. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    August 3, 2022 at 6:42 am
    Looks like it was only me, didn’t see anything new, and refresh didn’t work.

    Gabor – I was lucky and got in just before the turn of the page. Now I can’t see Tom’s toons. For some reason the previous page is only displaying up to 12 midnight.

    BON,

    again no problems – opened open thread realised time and went back to older comments

    Thanks Tom for Cartoons

    On 2019 Imac, Chrome/Firefox/Safari all work


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  45. The longer we leave the inevitable the greater the human toll.

    If the West disengages from China the regime will collapse of its own accord.

    Bringing Communist China in from the cold was one of the worst foreign policy decisions of the post-war years.


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  46. A couple of good news stories coming out of links above:

    1. The 80 year old store owner who shot an armed intruder was working at 3am, and despite a slight heart attack after the incident is raring to get back to work. Superman!
    2. A great sense of humour from the terminally ill university lecturer – not just mooning a speed camera because it was on his bucket list, but also singing “Always look on the bright side of life” as the gestapo crash tackled him to the ground.
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  47. Public health “experts” caught out, again…

    I have been watching Shawn Baker MD’s YouTube channel. He’s a big advocate of a carnivore diet, eating beef in particular.

    What I have found interesting is the number of people in the comments claiming that going carnivore had rescued them from serious ailments.

    I think the whole public health edifice is rotten to the core. I remember to food triangle from when I was in primary school, breads, grains and pasta at the base, a recipe for getting fat.


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  48. According to reporters from the Shanghai Morning Post, in addition to the Agricultural Bank, the field assessment of 20 bank ATMs of 14 leading banks found that only 5 function normally, 7 have restricted functions, some have shortened hours, and more than half of the banks ATMs are paralyzed and not working.

    There are reports out of the US that some of these banks have branches in Sydney, and that similar restrictions have been applied?


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  49. As for Pelosi, if I were an American elector my view would likely be less measured. However, I’m looking at her Taiwan visit from an Australian perspective.

    The strategy of the CCP is to drive the US from the region and become the local hegemon. Needless to say, that does not augur well for our prospects.

    I therefore welcome any American politician who is willing to stand up against CCP bullying in the region.

    And, as a welcome bonus, she’s got Paul Keating in conniptions.


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  50. Bringing Communist China in from the cold was one of the worst foreign policy decisions of the post-war years.

    A billion Chinese didn’t choose communism. The Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat was imposed on them by force from above by the zealots of the CCP (for whom the Kung Flu they designed to kill Americans was nevertheless another excuse to give their own people another dose of the dictatorship good and hard).


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  51. After Pelosi’s arrival, China announced military drills in nearby waters.

    America will have to compress their schedule of discoveries of Ukrainian transgressions and duplicity that compel them to abandon Zelensky, if they are going to rally to the defence of rotting-in-life borderline-dead that is Pelosi.


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  52. Damn. I mistyped above.

    “Cranky Conscription Man Is Always Angry” shoulda been:

    “Cranky Conscription Man Is Always Cranky”

    I have previously said that one day I would proof read – might be time to choose a second day.


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  53. Any hints on flying via United to the States – apart from “don’t”?

    Check out the seating configuration to make sure you’re not in one of those weird backward facing seats.


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  54. Australians will be warned of the risk of state-on-state conflict in an urgent review of the nation’s defence amid fears that $44.6 billion in annual spending is not doing enough to prepare the country for growing threats to its security.

    Defence Minister Richard Marles will call in two external experts to conduct the snap review while the government considers pivotal decisions on nuclear submarines, a fleet of guided-missile destroyers and plans to build a bigger army.



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  55. If the West disengages from China the regime will collapse of its own accord.

    I don’t think thats a workable solution. Look at the USSR, its collapse just led to a mafia state armed with nukes. Japan on the other hand worked out far better.


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  56. zyconoclastsays:
    August 3, 2022 at 10:23 am
    A ‘ racist ‘ group has sparked fury after hanging banners reading ‘White Lives Matter’ over landmarks in Glasgow.

    With this applying to 88% of Glasgow and 95% of Scotland, you would think it was fair enough.

    Reminds of the horror that greeted signs saying “All Lives Matter” a couple of years ago. Do these people ever reflect, even for a moment, on the stupidity of what they say? Or are they actually calling for a genocide of whites?


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  57. Ender

    My kid flies Ununited and says they’re fine. As with most things American you have to get used to the conveyer belt service. I flew them domestically and you had to order through an app.
    Their planes are the Dreamliner.


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  58. Top Endersays:
    August 3, 2022 at 10:12 am
    Any hints on flying via United to the States – apart from “don’t”?

    Your bonus is, as my kids found out when their UA flight was cancelled and the new UA flight transfer in SFO to MCO was 75 mins, as UA had loads of options to MCO via alternate US cities and the US Flights were all UA, they were changed at no cost to LAX with direct MCO and 3 1/2 hour transfer time

    If you arrive on QF 1st leg, and are on US carrier next leg, your problem and extra cost if first leg changed or cancelled


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  59. The problem with disconnecting from China (laudable though an objective) is that our leaders are at least as stupid as the Europeans who thought that blocking the trade in gas from Russia would only hurt Russia (because they were bad) and not themselves (because they were good), and who looked on uncomprehending when they started to run out of gas.

    We regrettably rely on Chinese manufacturing for a great many things. Much of our manufacturing went to China partly because our government made production all but impossible in Australia, and partly because Australian consumers were unswervingly loyal to whichever was the cheapest brand at the time – even if they then complained about quality.

    Disconnecting from China will mean re-building a manufacturing base that was long ago left to fend for itself against China or go to the wall.

    The country that is most agile in lowering barriers to allow a manufacturing resurgence within their own borders will reap proportionately the greatest benefits as other countries look to source products from places other than China.

    This will not be Australia. Our politicians will do nothing to seize the opportunity. The MSM will not let them.

    With the mid-terms in the US coming up, and an innate entrepreneurial spirit we can only envy, coupled with a political structure where some states can move in directions opposite to their Federal government, I would hope the US takes this on. We saw how quickly they pivoted from suffocating gloom under Jug-Ears into rapid growth under Orange Man Bad.

    In Australia all we’ll get is government ‘investment’ so we end up with Victory Gin, Victory Cigarettes, Trabants, and The People’s Parsnip Stew.


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  60. No point in giving advice to Matthew Guy, Farmer G.

    Even if not too stupid to grasp it, he’d still be too dumb to implement it.

    I’m praying the scandal involving his CoS will inspire a revolt against his leadership. There is still four months before the election. A new leader might gain some ground. Guy will only lose more seats.


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  61. Americans have had enough of the old codgers. The country needs to be run — and actually elected by voters, not nominated by Democratic Party election cheats — by someone from the median age group. #DeSantis in 2024.

    Tom, they’re old, but most importantly, they think old.

    The view isn’t outwards, but inwards. Not possibilities, innovation, growth. It’s preservation of self, of assets, of position and power. Not the betterment of the underprivileged, but the use of same to achieve the goal.

    Although he’s old, I never saw Trump as a geriatric-style thinker. In fact his mental processes are more acute than many half his age. Although at this stage, he may be better off behind the curtain than in front of it.


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  62. Why Is Saying Monkeypox Is a Disease Primarily Suffered by the Homosexual Community a Problem?

    Our society suffers from a very odd disease, and no, it’s not Monkeypox or COVID-19. It’s the absolute refusal to admit the truth when it’s staring you in the face.

    For a time, you couldn’t say the vaccines didn’t work. You couldn’t even discuss how other medications might help your COVID-19 infection along. You can’t call a man a man when he thinks he’s a woman. You can’t even call a recession a recession.

    Now, our society refuses to label the monkeypox outbreak what it is; a disease primarily suffered by the homosexual community.

    Here are the facts.


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  63. Reminds of the horror that greeted signs saying “All Lives Matter” a couple of years ago. Do these people ever reflect, even for a moment, on the stupidity of what they say?

    In their extreme bias, it is an expression of white supremacy, when it clearly isn’t. Again, they promote BLM under the false assumption it only effects white people on the right.


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  64. What have you guys done to your computers? Throttled them?

    Since the problems are clearly on individual devices and others are a-okay, is it something in your settings that’s strangling the way the site refreshes?


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  65. Now, our society refuses to label the monkeypox outbreak what it is; a disease primarily suffered by the homosexual community.

    It’s because they’ve suddenly gone all coy about the risks of their sexual choices.

    Guys…we know what you do to each other. And why you do it.


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  66. The ABC runs with the ‘pox on both their houses’ angle:

    Mark McGowan, Clive Palmer fight out dull draw in court stoush that left both with black eyes

    From my perspective, there is a key difference between the legal cat fight between these two thin-skinned betas – Cloive paid for his self-indulgent moral crusade out of his own pocket, whilst McClown got the taxpayer to pay for his.

    Also, McClown is a head of government, and being defamed is pretty much part of the job description. Screw McClown.


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  67. Knuckle Draggersays:

    August 3, 2022 at 7:16 am

    The site’s working perfectly on my Commodore 64.

    #metoo.
    Going beautifully on the Commodore 64 and the Nokia 3310.
    Of course, I am using my Nazi pass to log on, which gives me diplomatic immunity from interference by the Powers of Klaus.


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  68. I, too, was suffering acute toons-withdrawal when I first logged onto The Cat this morning: hands shaking, heart racing – the works. Nothing after JC at midnight.

    Happily, Dover has hauled the hamsters into gear and now everything is working perfectly again. Thanks for this site, Dover. And thanks, Tom, for the daily toons.

    Very much appreciated.


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  69. If I go to ‘Older comments’ on this page I get
    JCsays:
    August 3, 2022 at 12:00 am

    There is no ‘Older comments / Newer comments’ at the end of that page.
    To get back to the current page I go to new post ‘Open Thread – Tues 2 Aug 2022’.


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  70. Tom, they’re old, but most importantly, they think old

    You see the same thing with the geriatrics making tea for GetUp. Old farts worry about everything.


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  71. Dover, until about 5 minutes ago, the open threat stopped on JC’s midnight comment about ‘some nifty guitar work’, likewise the recent posters box on the home page.

    I have no idea what I did, but it’s now working (or so it seems).


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  72. Dover,
    On the desktop I must close the Cat link, reopen, scroll to current OT (sidebar link to OT not reliable), click on comments, scroll down (sidebar recent comments goes back to previous page or hours earlier, not what was displayed at the link).
    Come back a couple of hours later, do the banking, pay the gas, refresh the Cat’s last comment, it gives me hours earlier.
    Close link, reopen …
    I used the phone for a day but that’s not my preference.


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  73. Another in the never ending series ‘why are women so shit”?

    ‘Mind-blowing’: Why do men’s paintings cost 10 times more than women’s?

    How have we got here? Frances Morris, director of Tate Modern, says: “Women artists have fared very poorly because there’s been an unconscious collusion between the marketplace, art history and the institutions. Everybody lacks confidence, everybody’s looking for confirmation. So there’s been a sort of confirmational history, which you could call the canon. And, of course, convention and history were framed by patriarchy.”

    ..

    Whines about prices of art, but is perfectly comfortable and glosses over a 20% underrepresentation by blokes in the arts schools.
    For some time, women have made up 70% of students in art college, selected on merit, and the art world prides itself on its liberal, progressive values. Yet it presides over the biggest pay gap I can think of.


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  74. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/russian-embassy-just-released-new-video-mocking-west-time-move-russia-traditional-values-christianity-no-cancel-culture/

    The clip published on the embassy’s Twitter account, called “Time to move to Russia,” touts Russia’s cultural values.

    “This is Russia,” a narrator speaking English with a Russian accent says in the 53-second ad. “Delicious cuisine, beautiful women, cheap gas, rich history, world-famous literature, unique architecture, fertile soil, cheap electricity and water, ballet, cheap taxi and delivery, traditional values, Christianity, no cancel culture, hospitality, vodka.”

    Russia’s economy, “can withstand thousands of sanctions,” continues the voiceover.

    “Time to move to Russia. Don’t delay, winter is coming, ” the viral ad concludes, quoting the ominous line from Game of Thrones.


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  75. Dover, I have done all those things and it makes no difference.

    Until the latest round of tinkering I and others had no problems. Now, across a range of devices and browsers, we all have the same problem.

    At the time that areff commented that it was stuffed, mine was frozen as well.


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  76. Dover, not the cache. Same as Johanna said.
    I imagine I will feel like this in a few years time when I have to give up my deep freeze because of the erratic power supply.


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  77. Sweeney #2:

    Det. Sgt. George Carter:
    I’m trying to lose some weight.

    Det. Insp. Jack Regan:
    Listen, if you’re really serious about that, you ought to try the onion diet.

    Det. Sgt. George Carter:
    I’m trying to lose a few pounds – not all my friends!

    Det. Insp. Jack Regan:
    You haven’t got any friends.



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  78. Why is Pelosi in Taiwan?

    by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent

    WHY IS PELOSI IN TAIWAN? It is not common practice for senior U.S. government officials to visit Taiwan. The last time a really high-ranking official visited Taiwan was 25 years ago, when then-Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich traveled there. Gingrich remained the highest-ranking U.S. official ever to visit Taiwan until today, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) arrived in Taipei.

    That is not to say U.S. officials don’t visit Taiwan. They do. Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) traveled there in July, and Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) was there in June. But they weren’t super high-level affairs. Duckworth took along Illinois’s first assistant deputy governor for public safety, infrastructure, environment, and energy, along with the state’s first assistant deputy governor for budget and economy, according to a press release from her trip. They’re not exactly in the line of presidential succession.

    But Pelosi is. And her trip comes at a time of high tension internationally, stirring intense, over-the-top antipathy from the Chinese. And the Biden administration did not want her to go. Given that, Pelosi’s reason for being in Taiwan is not exactly clear.

    It is clear that the White House — the president, who has the constitutional authority to conduct foreign policy — does not want her in Taiwan. The main reason is that the president is trying to make sure China does not offer aid to Russia in the war in Ukraine.

    The “tough meetings,” according to Friedman, included Biden personally telling Chinese President Xi Jinping that the U.S. would isolate China economically if it helped Russia. The result, again according to Friedman, is that China has refrained from helping its “ostensible ally,” Russia, even as the U.S. and other NATO countries have been sending tons of advanced weaponry to Ukraine.

    “Given all of that,” Friedman asks, “why in the world would the Speaker of the House choose to visit Taiwan and deliberately provoke China now, becoming the most senior U.S. official to visit Taiwan since Newt Gingrich in 1997, when China was far weaker economically and militarily?”

    Friedman does not have an answer. Neither does anyone else.


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  79. “art world prides itself on its liberal, progressive values. Yet it presides over the biggest pay gap I can think of.”
    What are they going to,
    cap auction prices for art produced by men?
    Force people to buy women’s art they don’t want?
    Lobotomise art lovers?


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  80. With respect to the Pelosi/Taiwan debacle I think the CCP will do nothing apart from shooting their mouth off. If they actually harm Pelosi or attack Taiwan the US, even weakened as they are by the Ukrainian misadventure, are strong enough to hit back hard.

    If the CCP wait a few years for the US military to degrade further there most likely will be a different and stronger president, whether Trump or De Santis, with the same result.

    For all I know, the Democrats are daring the CCP to do something stupid so they can appear strong and thus show how they saved the world from communism.


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  81. “This is Russia,” a narrator speaking English with a Russian accent says in the 53-second ad. “Delicious cuisine, beautiful women, cheap gas, rich history, world-famous literature, unique architecture, fertile soil, cheap electricity and water, ballet, cheap taxi and delivery, traditional values, Christianity, no cancel culture, hospitality, vodka.”

    Has AusGov realised that despite their best efforts, Australian’s aren’t prisoners? Australia’s international competitiveness as a place to live is rock bottom.

    As an example, who the fuck would look at the Bat Eared Mong and his Militarised Police force and decide that they wanted to live in Victoria?


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  82. Beijing’s response to Pelosi’s Taiwan visit will likely show that revenge is a dish best served cold

    Here’s why Nancy Pelosi’s visit is such a big deal in Beijing – and how Chinese officials might respond

    That’s why the 1992 line by the ROC recognized itself – not the People’s Republic of China (PRC) – as the legitimate government of the whole of China. It saw itself as a government in exile. However, this line was still admissible by the mainland, e.g., the PRC, because it recognized that there is one China and that Taiwan is a part of China.

    It wasn’t until 2019 that current Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen, of the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), completely rejected the established 1992 Consensus. That was when things changed and when Beijing started to refer to the Taiwan government under the DPP as “Taiwan independence forces.” It was at this point that an independent “Taiwanese” identity started to emerge.

    So, Gingrich’s visit was not seen as a recognition of separatist forces – because the ruling KMT saw itself as de jure rulers of China – and Pelosi’s is seen as an attack on China’s national sovereignty. China also sees the behavior of the administration as tacit approval of this attack on its sovereignty.

    First of all, Pelosi took an official US government plane to Taipei which implies an official connection between officials in Taipei and Washington. Estimates put the cost of this trip for US taxpayers at about $90 million dollars. Part of the US’ ‘One China’ pledge is that it will only maintain unofficial ties with Taiwan.

    At the same time, the US military – part of the administration – reportedly made plans to protect Pelosi’s plane in any emergency event and, to top it off, both Pelosi and US President Joe Biden are members of the same political party. This only underscores China’s insistence that the administration supports Pelosi’s actions.

    In terms of how China will hit back at the main perpetrator – Washington – this will likely be in the realms that it really hurts and where the US is already seeing the most destabilization – the economic and trade spheres. The US supply chain is infinitely intertwined with China and the ongoing trade war between the two sides has already been a major source of inflation.

    With the flick of a pen, Chinese officials could seriously upset the US economy, exacerbate inflation and send Biden’s Democrats packing in this year’s midterm elections, which would also mean dethroning Nancy Pelosi as speaker. It’s anyone’s guess how things progress but this seems the most likely, in my view.


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  83. Mask mandates might return.
    It’s a theatrical nonsense to see parliament sitting with all those Labor virtue signallers in masks, with a bit extra on the side in the shape of Teal (nee Labor) Ryan. But that’s what you get with LaborLotto; the count is on the increase.
    My local bulk-billing medical centre has mandated masks because they say there are various things around, including covid and influenza, and their staff gets less sick since masks were in use. That would seem to be a reason for the staff to wear masks.
    My local Chemist Warehouse doesn’t ask for masks, and not even the staff are wearing them. Given the number of The People who go in there day after day, you’d reckon that if the medical centre was correct the bulk chemist would want at least their staff to mask up, but no. They are (at present) too sensible to do that.
    Let’s just do a brief revue of how many strictures and prescriptions didn’t work!
    Masks, Compulsory so-called vaccines and boosters, compulsory Lockdowns, Travel within City, Travel within State, Travel interstate.
    And that’s before we get to the punitive fines, the out-of-control police in some states knocking people down, kneeing them, spraying them with pepper spray, using rubber bullets, arresting a mum for something she said on Facebook!
    The Pollies and the “Health Authorities” should both be taken to the cleaners by a special commision, but no. They are too busy worrying about Barrel-aro’s job application.
    None of these


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  84. The furious up ticking of Dover saying no to numbers is indicative of what a useless old hooker banger the turd from toowoomba is.

    True ‘bern, but as the comments demonstrate, he certainly still has a presence in the minds of people here.

    From a mostly lurkers point of view here, I simply enjoyed the spectacle of seeing Bob routinely dismembered by Mater, Cassie, KD and others. The regular rake stepping by him was a joy to behold. Dover I’m sure is correct, but watching a pompous old git like Numbers beclown himself was enormously entertaining.


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  85. For some time, women have made up 70% of students in art college, selected on merit, and the art world prides itself on its liberal, progressive values. Yet it presides over the biggest pay gap I can think of.

    Maybe, but what are the overall numbers of female applicants and male applicants?
    If 80% of the applicants are women and “on merit” selection results in 70% female students, the figures would provide a prima facie case for the pay gap, not against it.
    Is there some law against people making a token effort to use statistics properly?

    In any case, as I understand it, a million years of human evolution in male hunter/female gatherer groups resulted in the average man having better spatial awareness than the average woman, and about ten thousand years in post hunter-gatherer societies hasn’t produced any converse evolutionary pressure. (I’ve seen that suggested as a reason why there have rarely been women chess grandmasters, and they now have to have separate wymminses grandmaster titles becoz equalidee.) If that’s so there’s no need to look for any other reason why women are less prevalent in the visual arts than they are in, say, literature.


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  86. .. but watching a pompous old git like Numbers beclown himself was enormously entertaining

    Real Deal, would you be interested in a guest speaker invitation to this year’s Woomba Miata Helldrivers AGM or a commemorative knob?


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  87. feelthebernsays:

    August 3, 2022 at 8:59 am

    The furious up ticking of Dover saying no to numbers is indicative of what a useless old hooker banger the turd from toowoomba is.

    + 468.7.


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  88. “This is Russia,” a narrator speaking English with a Russian accent says in the 53-second ad. “Delicious cuisine, beautiful women, cheap gas, rich history, world-famous literature, unique architecture, fertile soil, cheap electricity and water, ballet, cheap taxi and delivery, traditional values, Christianity, no cancel culture, hospitality, vodka.”

    Could be the west too if we weren’t hell bent on cutting off our nose to spite our face.


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  89. H B Bearsays:

    August 3, 2022 at 10:09 am

    And, as a welcome bonus, she’s got Paul Keating in conniptions.

    That doesn’t take much these days.

    It’s the default factory setting.


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  90. Interesting vessel we have berthed at the moment…

    While tying up some of the landside crew could hear flowing water when the engines stopped.

    3 holes in the hull where the ballast water was pissing out. (being unloaded means the water in the ballast tanks is higher than the ocean level)

    Loading has stopped while the 3 holes are above water.
    Significant numbers of email exchanges are taking place regarding how much we would like this ship to go away and just how that is to be done in light of once its underway the water may come back into the ship instead of out of it.

    /anyone looking for a 30,000 tonne houseboat?


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  91. My major issue with the numerated one was that he could dish it out but not take it.
    I used to scroll them most of the time but after one attack on another poster I made a comment that it wasn’t as bad as rooting a hooker in SE Asia.
    Which I started dropping into the the thread regularly.
    He then complained to the blog owner who in turn told me to stop, which was fine (his blog his rules).
    Demonstrated the run to mummy behaviour behind the scenes while being all hot air in public.


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  92. Anchor Whatsays:
    August 3, 2022 at 11:41 am

    I wouldn’t be surprised if after the ALP win in NSW next year there is a period of it.
    It would make zero sense & would be purely punitive.
    But it’s all about demonstrating to the their post politics employers they can be relied on.


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  93. Some facts about Taiwan that those on here who seem to be wanting to paint it as a natural possession of the CCP.
    Taiwan, previously known as Formosa, was settled by the Dutch and Spanish in the 1600s.
    Prior to that, it was inhabited by Pacific island type indigenous peoples similar to Maori.
    Having met a number of these indigenous folk, and travelled in the countryside where they remain settled, I can state from personal experience that they are not Chinese.
    During more recent times it was a possession of both the Japanese and, very briefly, the pre- communist Chinese Empire.
    It is therefore a mix of Pacific Island, Japanese and Chinese cultures.
    Then, in the aftermath of the Communist Chinese takeover of the mainland in the 1940s, the Nationalist army retreated across the strait to Taiwan after their defeat.
    This influx of Nationalists created modern Taiwan. Mandarin became the national language, schools taught exclusively in mandarin and, after many decades the nationalist (Guomindang) government’s ambitions to reunite China under their own banner became increasingly unrealistic. Democratic elections in the 1980s ensued, and eventually, a non- Guomindang government under current president Tsai has a policy of independence, not retaking all of a China.
    Thus the CCP has always wanted to take Taiwan, not because of any historic tie to the place, but simply to annihilate what it views as it’s last remaining enemies from the civil war era.


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  94. Taiwan has it’s own unique, non- Chinese history, a population the same size as Australia, is a free and democratic nation.
    It’s seizure by the CCP will be an utter tragedy, and an I’ll omen for our own future independence.


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  95. “Delicious cuisine, beautiful women, cheap gas, rich history, world-famous literature, unique architecture, fertile soil, cheap electricity and water, ballet, cheap taxi and delivery, traditional values, Christianity, no cancel culture, hospitality, vodka.”

    No cancel culture, eh?

    Just stay on the right side of the Pute or you’ll be defenestrated.


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  96. For among them are those who make their way into households and captivate silly women, overwhelmed by their sins and swayed by all kinds of desires
    2 Timothy 3:6

    Women are turning the tide on climate policy worldwide, and may launch a new era for Australia (Phys.org, 2 Aug)

    When the new federal parliament opened last week, a record number of female politicians took their seats: 38% in the House of Representatives and 57% in the Senate. This changing of the guard, with women at the forefront, brings an opportunity to accelerate Australia’s efforts on climate change.

    The major parties were virtually silent on the issues of gender equity and climate change throughout the 2022 election campaign. Yet, both issues proved to be turning points for the Australian electorate.

    Climate change—one of the key platforms on which the teal candidates successfully campaigned—is central to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s parliamentary agenda. A bill to enshrine a climate target into Australian law was among the first introduced to parliament last week.

    Women are on the front line of climate change impacts, which makes our experiences and leadership critical at decision-making tables. From Barbados to Finland, we’ve seen women’s leadership on climate bring fair, innovative and ambitious policies. We hope a new era in Australian climate policy is upon us, too.

    Oh my. Paul wrote abut these critters nearly two millenia ago. Let’s see who they are…

    Jacqueline Peel
    Director, Melbourne Climate Futures, The University of Melbourne

    Annabelle Workman
    Research Fellow, Melbourne Climate Futures, The University of Melbourne

    Kathryn Bowen
    Professor – Environment, Climate and Global Health at Melbourne Climate Futures and Melbourne School of Population and Global Health, University of Melbourne, The University of Melbourne

    Rebekkah Markey-Towler
    PhD Candidate, Melbourne Law School, and Research fellow, Melbourne Climate Futures, The University of Melbourne

    Deary deary me. Someone please convert Melbourne Uni into an insane asylum so they can get medication for their weird mental illness.


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  97. From a sinophile point of view, most of the world’s pre- communist Chinese artefacts and culture exist only in Taiwan.
    Mao’s lunatics having destroyed almost all of Chinese traditional culture on the mainland.
    This includes the language, the Taiwanese keeping the traditional complex writing characters instead of the simplified ones introduced on the mainland by Mao.


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  98. Thus the CCP has always wanted to take Taiwan, not because of any historic tie to the place, but simply to annihilate what it views as it’s last remaining enemies from the civil war era.

    Correct.

    Unfinished business and purely punitive in intent.


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  99. Just in case Cat farmers don’t fully appreciate the awesomeness of CSIRO.

    Research confirms new baiting regime is effective for mouse management in agriculture (Phys.org, 2 Aug)

    New research led by Australia’s national science agency, CSIRO, has found that mouse populations can be reduced significantly by doubling the amount of zinc phosphide (ZnP) in grain baits used for broadscale agriculture.

    Wow, is that awesome or what? I would never have thought of doing such a thing! And to publish this staggering finding in no less than three separate journal articles…how brilliant is that?


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  100. Ninety per cent of the world’s computer chips are made in Taiwan. The US Congress just voted chip-makers billions in taxpayer largesse.

    Via Washington’s rampant insider trading (it’s different when they do it), Nancy Pelosi’s husband just bought millions of dollars worth of chip-maker shares. Hence the reason for US Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s thank-you tour to Taiwan. Tucker Carlson Tonight.


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  101. In all honesty, I’d choose Bird over Numbers. Luckily, I don’t have to choose. He who owns the house makes the rules.

    Numbers added zero value to the conversation whilst being a constant irritant/fool. I don’t miss his inputs in the slightest. The truth is that he should be kissing the feet of whoever plucked his name out of the hat and put him on a course to him serving in Vietnam. It’s the only thing remotely interesting about him, the only thing that proffers him legitimate credibility – and he knows it. However, he has entirely undermined this credibility due to his willingness to crassly flaunt his time in Vietnam at every opportunity. It’s grotesque.


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  102. Just in case Cat farmers don’t fully appreciate the awesomeness of CSIRO.

    Because no farmer would throw on higher rates of bait based on experience.
    1kg/ha was always too light as a recommendation.


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  103. dover0beachsays:
    August 3, 2022 at 10:59 am
    Dover, if you can read this, the site is stuffed again. But you probably know that.

    That’s the thing. It seems to be working no problem for me (and others). What exactly is the problem now?

    Apart from one minor glitch over the weekend, where I had to close all New Cat tabs and then re-open them, all is well here.


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  104. Mao’s lunatics having destroyed almost all of Chinese traditional culture on the mainland.

    you can get a good idea of what they will do to us by looking at what they are doing to the uighurs


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  105. Lots of talk about “productivity” at the moment. While I know it’s not the entire problem, I would ban the use of mobile phones by workers during work hours.
    I see workers absorbed in their phones at work all the time, can’t be good.


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  106. For some time, women have made up 70% of students in art college, selected on merit, and the art world prides itself on its liberal, progressive values. Yet it presides over the biggest pay gap I can think of.

    Perhaps there is some unconscious bias inherent in the “merit” selection? Or does that only occur when more men are selected?


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  107. We regrettably rely on Chinese manufacturing for a great many things.

    The factories are closing. Western investors are pulling out & expats leaving.

    They’re finding post-covid China too difficult to do business in.


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  108. Gez – Idle question. Why does it have to be zinc phosphide when something like calcium phosphide would be a fair bit cheaper?

    I haven’t read up on the area, but I do know zinc is modestly pricey (US$3,300/t today) whereas calcium is reasonably similar chemically but much cheaper.


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  109. A few “thoughts”.

    1. I can now see Tom’s toons, but couldn’t earlier this morning.
    2. Numbers is a senile old dickhead. His War was well before mine, but I stopped talking about mine 25 years ago. (No appreciation from younger people….phooey). Good riddance to bad rubbish.
    3. Taiwan……what Arky said.

    That is all, carry on 🙂


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  110. From a sinophile point of view, most of the world’s pre- communist Chinese artefacts and culture exist only in Taiwan.
    Mao’s lunatics having destroyed almost all of Chinese traditional culture on the mainland.
    This includes the language, the Taiwanese keeping the traditional complex writing characters instead of the simplified ones introduced on the mainland by Mao.

    Can you imagine how much it must rankle the Commie shits on the mainland that a piss ant island, ruled for a long time by some unsavoury types, with a poofteenth of the resources of the mainland has been so successful for so long?

    Without the retardedness of the “wests” business/political classes in exporting manufacturing to China through the last 30 years they would still be a 2nd world basket case, a much bigger North Korea.

    It cant be emphasized enough that the deliberate offshoring of industry to China will pan out as the worst decision since mad king George double dared the Yank revolutionaries to try him on.


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  111. you can get a good idea of what they will do to us by looking at what they are doing to the uighurs and tibetans

    Just consider what the CCP does to its own citizens.


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  112. Does the Kansas referendum show that states rights work?

    I suspect it says that voters distrust pollies wanting to enshrine something in their constitution.
    More about what they think of pollies than what they think of abortion restrictions I suspect.


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  113. Time for dum parrot-head to show a bit of spine and tell V’Landys where to take his thugby competition .. let him take his GF to where ever it suits .. why is the NSW taxpayer paying for upgrades to stadiums so a more-money-than-brains mob can make more money? .. They have no problem paying $250K+ salaries to a lot of very average players but don’t want to pay for ground improvements ..
    then again, dum, renovate the grounds and up the rents to match player payments levels .. bleed ’em dry! ..
    Time & time again, we are treated to Sunday footy management decisions by V’Landys and co so let ’em take their game to where it belongs on Council operated grounds and maybe, just maybe, some of the rental will flow back into th ecommunities that fund these fields …….
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-03/peter-vlandys-accuses-dominic-perrottet-of-making-excuses-nrl/101294488


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  114. Gez – Idle question. Why does it have to be zinc phosphide when something like calcium phosphide would be a fair bit cheaper?

    Beyond my pay grade BoN.
    The phosphide does the gassing and killing. Stability and moisture perhaps?


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  115. The “tough meetings,” according to Friedman, included Biden personally telling Chinese President Xi Jinping that the U.S. would isolate China economically if it helped Russia. The result, again according to Friedman, is that China has refrained from helping its “ostensible ally,” Russia, even as the U.S. and other NATO countries have been sending tons of advanced weaponry to Ukraine.

    Looking around for a sub-military response, that would fuck Biden over more than Xi, I can see China and Russia announcing a greater level of ‘cooperation’ – including CCP support for Poot’s Ukraine adventure.

    Daring Scrotum 46 to try to scrape together international support for mutually damaging economic sanctions, in the middle of an inflation outburst and energy hiatus – to support some strange Pelosi political stunt.


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  116. This what grade A rorting looks like .. George Christensen .. all whilst on a backbenchers’ $200K + freebies salary ..
    Mr Christensen’s ‘extensive’ travel to the southeast Asian country, where he spent almost 300 days across 28 trips between 2014 and 2018.


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  117. and they keep coming
    PLA ?? equipment massed in downtown Xianmen

    Zipster it was a google maps error.
    They were looking for their base & ended up down town.


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  118. Arky – thanks, good summation.

    re Numbers – I always thought he was a lunatic (and a nasty one at that). Rarely read his posts, just scrolled past although the way he was eviscerated by others was often entertaining. I agree with Dover – Numbers was just too much trouble and wouldn’t be in favour of letting him back.

    Dover – my Cat access is fine. No issues here at present.


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  119. I’d be honoured.
    Petrol money for travel. Accommodation 60 bucks for bed, Chardonnay and chicken parmy. I’ll also be bringing autographed copies of my book for sale. It’s titled “Peter FitzSimons; an appreciation” 28 pages. Gold coin donation.


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  120. I’ll also be bringing autographed copies of my book for sale. It’s titled “Peter FitzSimons; an appreciation” 28 pages.

    Is “pages” another way of saying soft absorbent perforated sheets?


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  121. Taiwan – grandstanding by pelosi sent on a fool’s errand, the real motives of which errand are hidden from the nation yet which nevertheless augur ill.


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  122. From the Oz.

    Truth-telling, treaty before voice: Bandt
    Sarah Ison
    SARAH ISON

    Mr Bandt said the other two parts of the Uluru Statement to the Heart, truth-telling and treaty, could begin before the voice.

    “When we go into those discussions with the government about proposal for voice, we want to see … progress towards truth-telling and treaty start in this parliament,” he said.

    “We want to see the recommendations from the previous royal commission reports into black deaths in custody and also the bringing them home reports into the stolen generation implemented. That is something that can start now.”

    “Truth telling” – stories my Nanna told me.

    “Treaty” – start of a legal dogfight that will tie up the Courts for the next fifteen years.


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  123. Following on from IEA figures last week, which show we could need a ludicrous 60 new nickel mines by 2030 to achieve announced carbon reduction pledges, BHP’s Nickel West boss Jessica Farrell told delegates at the Diggers and Dealers Mining Forum in Kalgoorlie demand for nickel to 2050 would increase 200-300% on the previous three decades.

    At ~US$22,500/t, nickel is currently fetching a pretty penny, with BHP selling upwards of 85% of its product into the battery market, including MoUs with current and future EV makers Tesla, Toyota and Ford.

    In just eight years, 3 in 5 car sales will be electric.

    “Electrification of autos is gathering pace and we expect that by 2030, around 60% of all car sales will be electric,” Farrell said.

    “Further… we expect that by 2040, 90% of car sales will be electric. The dominant battery chemistry powering this global fleet is expected to rely on nickel.

    “Locally, Canberra is the first jurisdiction in Australia to mandate that all new cars must be electric, by 2035. This megatrend, combined with a firm demand base from the traditional stainless and class 1 applications, means we anticipate demand for nickel in the next 30 years will be 200 to 300 per cent of demand, in the previous 30 years.”

    https://stockhead.com.au/resources/diggers-and-dealers-bhp-tips-evs-will-send-nickel-demand-up-to-300-higher-in-the-next-30-years/


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  124. Arky, what’s your take on Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan?

    ..
    Hard to see Pelosi as anything else but a truculent and corrupt witch.
    But everything is corrupt. And politics intersects with every other corrupt part of the world.
    Eventually, both sides of the aisle will do what is right, but only when forced to out of survival.


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  125. Thank you Arky for your comment on the history of Taiwan. It aligns with what I understood about the place too.

    Its name means “Beautiful”.

    Depending on the winds and tides early next year I will be visiting there. I am looking forward to it very much.


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  126. Mr Bandt said the other two parts of the Uluru Statement to the Heart, truth-telling and treaty, could begin before the voice.

    Only ‘truth’ from the Ministry of Truth will be heard.

    Not what actually happened.


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  127. “This is Russia,” a narrator speaking English with a Russian accent says in the 53-second ad. “Delicious cuisine, beautiful women, cheap gas, rich history, world-famous literature, unique architecture, fertile soil, cheap electricity and water, ballet, cheap taxi and delivery, traditional values, Christianity, no cancel culture, hospitality, vodka.”

    And a totalitarian government that can lock you up pronto.

    Still – we are reaching that point super quickly here – so it may be evens Stevens in a few years.


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  128. “When we go into those discussions with the government about proposal for voice, we want to see … progress towards truth-telling and treaty start in this parliament,” he said.

    “We want to see the recommendations from the previous royal commission reports into black deaths in custody and also the bringing them home reports into the stolen generation implemented. That is something that can start now.”

    It is exasperating that the fools talk about “truth-telling” and “black deaths in custody” and “the stolen generation” in the same breath.

    The removal of children from homes of abuse and/or health risk is a practice of modern welfare states, and is not confined to the treatment of Aborigines. It never has been.

    The “black deaths in custody” lobby has never addressed the substance abuse that has led to many deaths in custody.

    The Left are masters at the distortion of language to suit their purposes. Sadly, terminology is rarely challenged and Conservatives and others get trapped in defending not only ideology – but sound administrative practice.


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  129. Only ‘truth’ from the Ministry of Truth will be heard.

    Not what actually happened.

    “Me bin see the white police come out of the bushes, me bin see the fires, me bin count the bodies” from an “eyewitness” to a “massacre” who was EIGHTY MILES away, at the time…


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  130. Sometimes I have to close website & reopen to update. But I am barely computer literate, so my experience or opinion is probably of limited value.


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  131. Yep, the McCain mafia are trying it on in Arizona.

    I am hoping for KARIZONA.
    Been watching Richard Baris with Poso on The Charlie Kirk show live on Rumble.


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  132. Been watching Richard Baris with Poso on The Charlie Kirk show live on Rumble.

    Looks like all the state house primaries are going well for the good guys (less bad?).
    Probably harder to play silly buggers with those primaries.

    Definitely shenanigans at play with in Pinal county for the important stuff.
    Maybe too many resources were all over Maricopa county ensuring that wasn’t too dodgy & not enough resources elsewhere.
    Amazing that this is happening with an alleged first world country.


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  133. I think Victor Davis Hanson is a fine historian and clever analyst of geopolitics. I don’t, however, agree with his characterisation of Zelensky’s regime as the valiant defender of liberty.

    But even Hanson can see the writing on the wall for Ukraine. He now seems to be moving towards a diplomatic solution – which should have been obvious from the start.Nevertheless, it is an interesting article which some on this blog may agree with.

    The Ukrainian Verdun
    July 28, 2022
    Victor Davis Hanson
    American Greatness

    Five months after Russia invaded Ukraine, the war is now reduced to one of attrition. The current dirty, grinding slog is fought mostly with artillery and rockets. Everything from Ukraine’s shopping centers to apartment buildings—and the civilians in them—are Russian targets.

    Most outsiders have already forgotten the heroic Ukrainian winter repulse of the botched Russian shock-and-awe effort to sweep into Kyiv, decapitate the government, and declare the eastern half of the country a Russian protectorate within mere days.

    Months later, the long war devolves further into a contest of mass and weight—tons of explosives blowing up pathways for massed troops grabbing a few more charred miles of ruined landscape.

    Vladimir Putin bets he can throw in more men and more shells than Ukraine and its Western suppliers can match. He is quite willing to “win” by laying waste to eastern Ukraine even if it means losing three Russian soldiers for every Ukrainian.

    When war becomes such gridlocked carnage, each side looks to new game-changing diplomacy, strategies, allies, or weapons to break the deadlock.

    For Putin, such escalation means more flesh, steel, and explosives. His country is 28 times bigger than Ukraine, and over three times more populous, with an economy 15 times larger.

    As for Putin’s financial reserves, the Western oil boycott means increasingly little to him when 40 percent of the planet’s population in India and China are eager to secure near-limitless Russian energy.

    Another 750 million people in Europe once talked tough. But as a second winter nears, their gas and oil imports from Russia will further wither. Then their Churchillian rhetoric may chill.

    So, the Ukrainian war increasingly will depend on endless U.S. aid and escalation.

    To stop the Russian steamroller, Ukraine demands sophisticated American missiles to sink Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Kyiv requests shipments of U.S. jet fighters to knock down Putin’s missiles and planes.

    It asks for more rockets and artillery to ensure tit-for-tat retaliation for every incoming Russian shell and bomb. Kyiv negotiates for more Western intelligence to take out more Russian generals and more lift capacity to stage airborne raids into Mother Russia itself.

    We in the West abhor Putin’s war as senseless carnage, the last mad act of a vainglorious and delusional dictator.

    Yet Putin trusts that future Russian generations will come to appreciate his grinding effort as the brutal restoration work of Vladimir the Great. When the wreckage is forgotten, Putin is convinced he will be viewed as the world’s most successful irredentist—one who had already battered Georgia, Ossetia, Chechnya, Crimea, and Eastern Ukraine back into the reborn Russian empire.

    If Putin can smash Ukraine into submission, the former jewel in the Russian imperial crown, then he thinks he can eventually swallow all the remaining former Soviet republics that are far less formidable than Ukraine.

    The United States is nearing a gut-check decision. There are plenty of dangerous firsts in radically upping our role with Ukraine. No one quite knows the post-Cold War rules of engagement when one nuclear power openly fights the surrogate of another.

    In the old days of the Soviet Union and a backward Maoist China, conventional American triangulation ensured that neither nuclear power grew closer to each other than to us.

    After Ukraine, both nuclear powers are de facto allies, ganging up on a common American enemy. As global inflation spikes, recession looms, and oil prices soar, some of our sworn and de facto allies, including India and Turkey, prefer Russian oil to Western sermons.

    The heroic Ukrainian resistance may have brought European NATO states and the United States closer. But oddly, Ukraine’s supporters seemed to have soured the rest of the world on Western economic boycotts and sanctions—and the torpid leadership of Joe Biden and his European counterparts.

    In the West, there are dissident rumblings of a possible plebiscite to adjudicate the Russian-speaking Ukrainian borderlands—with possible guarantees of an Austria-like, non-NATO neutrality for Ukraine.

    But such compromise talk earns charges of appeasement from Western zealots. Apparently, American moralists intend to fight for the principle of the sanctity of national borders to the last Ukrainian.

    Vastly upping aid to Ukraine has become the cause célèbre of the West. But few have fully explained the ensuing costs and dangers of escalation to the American people. The United States appears to be heading into a stagflationary recession following the loss of deterrence from the Afghanistan catastrophe, and with restive renegades like Iran and North Korea joining the Beijing-Moscow nuclear axis.

    For now, no one knows whether greater American escalation would tip the balance for an allied democratic victory, and a repeat of our savior role in the two World Wars. Or will the proxy war suck the United States into a Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan-like quagmire?

    Worse: will our intervention trump even the brinkmanship of the Cuban Missile Crisis—with the nuclear standoff nightmarishly unpredictable?


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  134. I am hoping for KARIZONA.

    If she wins, don’t get too hopeful about her agenda.
    Just be happy that the McCain shit stain will be out of play in AZ for a cycle.


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  135. My late FIL went to a Real Estate conference in Taiwan in the 80’s. Came away most impressed. Went on a tour in the sticks. Small holdings, each supporting about 50 people of the same family. Everything was grown, including livestock for family consumption with a precision engineering facility making widgets that they worked at, or an electronic goods manufacturer. All high end stuff.


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  136. Roger:

    The factories are closing. Western investors are pulling out & expats leaving.
    They’re finding post-covid China too difficult to do business in.

    But are the coming back to our countries?
    Seeing that the root cause of them leaving – punitive legislation – isn’t being addressed, I’d suggest not.
    Put it this way. If I was closing down my doohickey making company in China, would I rebuild in Australia?
    Of course not.
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  137. Roger:

    The factories are closing. Western investors are pulling out & expats leaving.
    They’re finding post-covid China too difficult to do business in.

    But are the coming back to our countries?
    Seeing that the root cause of them leaving – punitive legislation – isn’t being addressed, I’d suggest not.
    Put it this way. If I was closing down my doohickey making company in China, would I rebuild in Australia?
    Of course not.


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  138. If I was closing down my doohickey making company in China, would I rebuild in Australia?

    No, you’d be moving it to Thailand, Vietnam or the Philippines.

    To much Government and Union in Australia.


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  139. Well, i don’t intend to bore anyone with the myriad arguments against THE VOICE but let me just say this, reprising Jed Clampet’s famous words on ‘revenuers’ ie government agents. If Marcia Langton is in favour of it, I guess I’m mostly agin it.


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  140. “nine long wasted years”

    Actually, Labor’s right, it was nine long wasted years. The Liberals, beginning with Abbott, then Turdbull and finally Scumbag, wasted and squandered opportunity after opportunity. Remember that stopping the boats and getting rid of the carbon and mining taxes happened in the first year under Abbott…and what happened after? Very little but an awful lot of cowardice and capitulation. The Liberals did nothing to fight the climate change scam, they did nothing to about education, they did nothing about their ABC, they did nothing about free speech, they sided with the left to gang up on their own and they did nothing about the religious freedom bill until the eleventh hour when it was sure to fail and the coup de grace? Agreeing to the utter absurdity that is net zero emissions. That was the final nail in the coffin. This Labor government is going to be a disaster, actually it already is with the nonsense that is the “Voice” but the Liberals have contributed to this. I despise them.


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  141. Just today we have the latest in a long string of op-ed pieces in Sydney’s Daily Telegraph by a cavalcade of well paid CEOs etc from government funded lobby groups. Now the St Vincent de Paul Society is blessed with an almighty (or should that be Almighty) amount of community good will, IMHO. Today the good gentleman argued for higher pay for aged care workers and vouchsafed the opinion that they were underpaid. This echoed a column from some bigwig at Woolworths, the retail giant, who lectured the readers of the above publication that he believed his workers should be paid more. Now I hate to break the news to you guys, but you are perfectly at liberty to raise the wages of your employees if you see fit.


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  142. If you thought those years were wasted, and Cassie makes a good case, hold onto your hats while the ALP and associated Teals and Greens finish us off.
    The libs are white-anted almost completely, but I always reserve the largest chunk of blame for Da Media, which is 80% left, fails to keep any of the bastards honest, and facilitates ruination via their boosting of climate change and all that flows from it, siding with eco-activism which won’t rest until it has destroyed Mining and Agriculture, whereupon we can all say we’re stuffed.


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  143. Has Kieran Gilbert ever met a Labor politician he wanted to ask hard questions?

    I would have thought hard questions would be the last thing you would ask someone you were flirting with.


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  144. Remember the hope we had in September 2013? That hope evaporated very quickly. I’ll know next time not to have any hope when and if (and it’s a big if) the Liberals are ever elected again federally. In almost every state they’re now a party of permanent opposition. Maybe I’m just being maudlin.

    Professor James Allan has written more than once that he wished Labor had won in 2016. I agree, the Liberals under Turdbull choked back in in July 2016, thanks to the Nationals. It would have been better if the Liberals had lost.


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  146. This Labor government is going to be a disaster, actually it already is with the nonsense that is the “Voice” but the Liberals have contributed to this. I despise them.

    The failure of the Libs to challenge 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act was “the beginning of the end” for me. Gutless mob who forgot the very principles of free speech on which our democracy once rested.


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  147. This Labor government is going to be a disaster, actually it already is with the nonsense that is the “Voice” but the Liberals have contributed to this. I despise them.

    Cassie or anyone else think this would get through on a referendum? I’ve understood it was going to ref.


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  148. “JCsays:
    August 3, 2022 at 4:08 pm
    This Labor government is going to be a disaster, actually it already is with the nonsense that is the “Voice” but the Liberals have contributed to this. I despise them.

    Cassie or anyone else think this would get through on a referendum? I’ve understood it was going to ref.”

    JC, I’m hoping and praying that the result will be an overwhelming NO but I’m worried.


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