Open Thread – Weekend 20 Aug 2022


Woman with a rake, Jean-François Millet, 1857

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rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 11:01 pm
JC
JC
August 20, 2022 11:15 pm

Indolent

The podiatrist knows because he can tell by doing feet examinations?

Rabz
August 20, 2022 11:31 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 20, 2022 11:35 pm

Ed’s Auto Reviews is a YouTube channel featuring a young Dutchman presenting quirky reviews of the automotive world across different themes. His latest offering (15:59 long) looks at the Chinese car industry as it stands and he points out they are well-geared to supply electric vehicles. Is this the underlying reason that internal-combustion cars are being demonised with sunset policies around the world?

Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 20, 2022 11:39 pm

I prefer Steppin’ Out in Manhattan, as presented last night. Personal preference. 🙂 Or, alternatively, you can hang tough in a Soho bar.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 11:42 pm

Is this the underlying reason that internal-combustion cars are being demonised with sunset policies around the world?

I would bloody well hope not. Although we need to face reality, Cats – ICE vehicles will be taxed and legislated out of our existence very soon.

“It’s not about going green, it’s about going without”

Rabz
August 20, 2022 11:46 pm

NKP – we really overlooked Joe Jackson in the various Saturday night threads

Inexcusable in hindsight …

Rabz
August 20, 2022 11:53 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 12:06 am

JCsays:

August 20, 2022 at 11:15 pm

Indolent

The podiatrist knows because he can tell by doing feet examinations?

Well, yeah.
If the feet are cold and grey, it’s the vax-man.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 12:23 am

From Scott Hargraves IPA email this week, re Fred Pawse’s views on Australian culture.
Takes me, and no doubt many Cat commenters, right back to some good old days.

Sometime after we released Die Laughing: The Biography of Bill Leak, Fred wrote again for us on what it meant to him. He said:

One of the reasons I wrote the book was not just to honour a friend for a life well lived, but to capture a period of popular culture in what was once an optimistic, friendly, happy country. Leak epitomised each phase in Australian post-war history, from growing up under Robert Menzies to the libertarian 1970s, the prosperous larrikinism under Hawke and Keating, the acrimony during the Howard years (which Leak later realised was largely contrived), and the nerdish earnestness of Rudd, which led to the divisive, self-destructive culture wars of the past decade and a half. [Read here]

‘Prosperous larrikinism’ is a great phrase. Bob Hawke styled himself a larrikin, perhaps to add some gloss to pretty unappealing character traits, but he had some claims to the description. His evident delight in Australia II’s victory in the America’s cup in 1983 had to be genuine, and his off-hand comment that workers should take the day off was somewhat typical (especially for an ACTU leader!).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 12:41 am

G’nite, Rabzie and all.

We did a great dance routine hip hop style this morning to ‘nothing’s gonna stop us now’, but not the 1987 version, some new yoof group. Lots of fun to power up the busy day on. Some of these rather sicky 80’s toons revitalise well with some hard rock put into them.

Time for bed now though.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Mine’s a double Tallisker

It’s working already.
For Talisker is spelt with only one “L” 😉

Gabor
Gabor
August 21, 2022 2:14 am

Time for bed now though.

No stamina these youngsters.

Winston Smith
August 21, 2022 3:41 am

Frank:

Still don’t get how Chiko Rolls were identified with leggy woman in leather draping themselves over motorbikes. Not really an obvious connection to cabbage.

Leggy woman and cabbages.
Frank, I’m not going to explain the birds and bees and the stork and cabbages.
This isn’t that kind of blog.

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2022 4:00 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 4:51 am

Still don’t get how Chiko Rolls were identified with leggy woman in leather draping themselves over motorbikes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiko_Roll

A Chiko Roll’s filling is primarily cabbage and barley, as well as carrot, green beans, beef, beef tallow, wheat cereal, celery and onion.[2] The filling is partially pulped and enclosed in a thick egg and flour pastry tube,

What’s not to like.

sfw
sfw
August 21, 2022 6:39 am

Great Speccie article about the state of our country and our pollies. There’s another article about De Santis. I think there’s a lot to be said for direct election of many senior public officials, just a straight majority wins election, no preferential stuff. Premiers, Judges, Police Commissioners etc. Our political parties will not allow the promotion of people who aren’t fully on board with whatever the current thing is. Direct election would circumvent the pollies.

sfw
sfw
August 21, 2022 6:40 am
lotocoti
lotocoti
August 21, 2022 6:43 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 6:54 am

Chiko Roll has all these ingredients according to Wiki and Joe Hiden got more votes than Trump and Epstein killed himself. Yeah riighhhttttt.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 6:57 am

Chiko rolls are like sausages. Best not to spend too much time thinking about what’s in them.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2022 7:13 am

Great comment on Janet Albrechtsen’s article in the
Oz: “Lidia Thorpe, with one fist raised and the other hand in the taxpayer’s pocket, gives us the most accurate preview of “the voice” in action.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 7:15 am

sfw that makes for such sad reading. Governed by such morons that aspired to be mediocre but failed miserably. The more we see of them the worse they really are if thats possible.

calli
calli
August 21, 2022 7:21 am

Quite. No limbs missing.
Tee hee. Much better than “42”.

Jackson’s missing character
.

Thanks Tom. DrJill in the giant pull-up was good too. Put that frumpy Melania to shame.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 7:22 am

I’ve never liked proportional representation ever. Its a race with no real winners, everyone gets a ribbon. Why the imbeciles get their imbecile in parliament I just can’t fathom. As for compulsory voting, pleeeaase. The combination has wrecked Australia.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2022 7:26 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 7:52 am

Yes. Next question.

Is modern environmentalism a pagan religion? (Washington Examiner, 18 Aug)

Pelosi (D-CA) claimed the wind, solar, and electric subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act would placate an “angry” planet. “Mother Earth gets angry from time to time, and this legislation will help us address all of that,” the speaker said.

I wonder if she really believes this? On the other hand Pelosi does seem to rather like green stuff, and the climate crazies have lots and lots of that sort of thing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 7:53 am

Narrative change alert.
NY Times runs column on the dangers of TikTok.
This will be the first time some sheeple have heard of these dangers.

Keep in mind a few years ago calling TikTok even concerning was Trumpian level racism.
To be clear, there is zero new news in the NY Times column.
Absolutely everything was known back in 2018 when a ByteDance capital raising deck got out of the lab.

The question is who is forcing this change of narrative?
Is it the US security state?
Or part of the BigTech scene (the ones who’s lunch is being eaten by TikTok).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 8:09 am

Bern – I rather liked these two stories appearing within a couple days of each other.

Apple Discloses New Security Flaw That Can Allow Attackers To Take “Complete Control” Over iPhones, iPads, & iMacs (20 Aug)

Apple Reportedly Shifting Watch And MacBook Production To Vietnam (18 Aug)

Sounds like someone has found a back door with a sign on it saying “Enter Here” in Mandarin.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 8:11 am

Good to see that my offhand comment about Chiko Rolls has started a discussion of that long neglected foodstuff.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 21, 2022 8:16 am

The Chicko Roll. Created in Bendigo but first sold at Wagga.

The Chiko Roll was developed by Frank McEncroe, a boilermaker from Bendigo, Victoria, who turned his clever hands to catering at football matches and other outdoor events. In 1950, McEncroe saw a competitor selling Chinese-style chop suey rolls outside the Richmond Cricket Ground. It was here that his craftsman’s mind saw an opportunity…

McEncroe felt that the competitor rolls were too flimsy to be handled in an informal outdoor setting, so brought to life the idea of a much larger and more robust roll that would provide a quick meal fix, easily held in one hand, with a cool beer in the other. The roll’s robust crispy outer layer would double as its own holder… And the legend of the great Chiko Roll began, making its first appearance at the Wagga Wagga Agriculture Show in 1951.

https://chiko.com.au/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 8:22 am

Chiko Rolls are very high tech. Whenever you get one you do a login then a logout.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 21, 2022 8:25 am

Chicko Roll
Tried them over the years but never liked them in comparison to a steamed dim sim with lots of soy sauce.
I remember a bus trip with mates after we’d had a big night and we were a bit subdued. A big personality in our mob stopped the bus at a roadhouse and came back with bags full is steamed dim sims.
It worked a treat. Hangover cure maybe.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 8:28 am

Yep BoN the only food to come out the same as it went in and probably tasting the same too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 8:29 am

GreyRanga at 7:22 – another Liar returned with Green preferences. NT by election I believe. Until the Lieborals get a clue this is the model till the roles are reversed.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2022 8:32 am

“sfwsays:
August 21, 2022 at 6:39 am
Great Speccie article about the state of our country and our pollies. There’s another article about De Santis. I think there’s a lot to be said for direct election of many senior public officials, just a straight majority wins election, no preferential stuff. Premiers, Judges, Police Commissioners etc. Our political parties will not allow the promotion of people who aren’t fully on board with whatever the current thing is. Direct election would circumvent the pollies.”

Umm, whilst I understand where you’re coming from and once upon a time I would have had some sympathy for what you are saying, my answer to the call for the “direct election” of senior public servants is…..no. Maybe one upon a time but no more. The left have infiltrated and politicised everything. The “direct election” of judges, police commissioners, district attorneys (here in Oz…..crown prosecutors) etc. leads to the complete politicisation of the roles, as evidenced in the US now, most particularly in blue states. In states like Oregon, Washington, New York, California, Illinois etc, when dealing with crime, particularly crime committed by groups like Antifa and BLM, any investigation and prosecution is dependent on the politics involved of the DA, the judges, the police etc. Andy Ngo has written extensively about this and “direct election”. Crime committed by groups such as Antifa and BLM, in cities like Portland and Seattle, are now rarely investigated and if they are, the crimes are rarely prosecuted because the DA and the police chiefs are corrupt far-left Democrats or they are loathe to rock the boat of their far-left masters. And when you have political and ideological homogeny in certain states, like Oregon and California, there will never ever be any change of installing centrist or right-wing Republicans because they just don’t win elections in these states anymore. Just look at what happened during the summer of 2020 in blue states such as Minnesota and Oregon, most of the perpetrators/culprits are known but have not been prosecuted. Why?

We’ve already had a glimpse here of the damage that a politicised police and judiciary can do, just ask Cardinal George Pell. It took a largely politically neutral High Court to first hear his case and then to squash his conviction….7-0.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 8:33 am

I remember a bus trip with mates after we’d had a big night and we were a bit subdued. A big personality in our mob stopped the bus at a roadhouse and came back with bags full is steamed dim sims.

You need to make sure the post-dimmie sector of the bus trip is no longer than 30 minutes.

calli
calli
August 21, 2022 8:34 am

steamed dim sim with lots of soy sauce.

Miracle Food.

Move over kale!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 8:36 am

“Lidia Thorpe, with one fist raised and the other hand in the taxpayer’s pocket, gives us the most accurate preview of “the voice” in action

Lidia Thorpe says the priority is “Truth-telling” and a Treaty, not a
“Voice.”

calli
calli
August 21, 2022 8:36 am

Boomers – dimmys
Gen X – pot noodles
Millennials – kale

The Devolution of Man.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 21, 2022 8:41 am

You need to make sure the post-dimmie sector of the bus trip is no longer than 30 minutes.

Beer and dim sims.
Could have powered the bus if we were remotely clever.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2022 8:48 am

On the other hand Pelosi does seem to rather like green stuff

. It buys a better brand of fridge

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 8:48 am

We buy the South Melbourne market dimmies frozen in the supermarket.
The size of a small fist and … mmmmmm.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 8:50 am

Poor man’s gyoza.
Steam dimmies.
Slice in half lengthwise.
Fry the halves filling side down in pan until crisp.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
August 21, 2022 8:51 am

The bank mirochipping is hardly surprising.

I’ve been waiting for the push for mirochipping on newborn babies, same as we do for all our pets to have the ‘registered’

Of course, it will be about your child’s safety, easy to scan and ID them if they become lost.

As for ICE engines, diesel is here to stay at a minimum.
We can deny reality for a while, but, as we are soon to see, we cannot deny the consequences of denying reailty.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 21, 2022 8:54 am

Home made sausage rolls are the food of champions.

Every woman (mostly) worth her salt has a family recipe. They’re all different and bloody delicious. Added bonus with homemade sauce.

There may be desserts and sandwiches left after a function but never sausage rolls.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 8:54 am

Could have powered the bus if we were remotely clever.

It’s called turning the vehicle you’re in into a hover craft.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 21, 2022 8:55 am

As for ICE engines, diesel is here to stay at a minimum.

Then there is the question of what to do with the petrol fraction of the barrel of oil.

Indolent
Indolent
August 21, 2022 8:57 am

The podiatrist knows because he can tell by doing feet examinations?

I believe he does occasionally talk to you patients, not to mention noticing if some of them die.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:01 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:

August 21, 2022 at 1:06 am

Mine’s a double Tallisker

It’s working already.
For Talisker is spelt with only one “L”

There are a few Chinese knock-offs about which might fool the unsophisticated palate.
The dodgy label is often a giveaway.
I do hope no-one has been had.

Indolent
Indolent
August 21, 2022 9:01 am
Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
August 21, 2022 9:01 am

Then there is the question of what to do with the petrol fraction of the barrel of oil.

Shhh… you said the quiet part out loud…

Zipster
August 21, 2022 9:03 am

UK vaccination, adverse reactions
Dr. John Campbell

custard
custard
August 21, 2022 9:03 am

BREAKING: Daughter of Aleksandr Dugin, a leading Russian political thinker known for close ties to Putin, killed in car explosion.

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1561122231291621376?s=21&t=HsVK7bbMkBc4zmuIznHR-Q

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 21, 2022 9:04 am

A Chiko Roll’s filling is primarily cabbage and barley, as well as carrot, green beans, beef, beef tallow, wheat cereal, celery and onion.[2] The filling is partially pulped and enclosed in a thick egg and flour pastry tube …. What’s not to like.

1) Cabbage: cabbage is a vegetable and ALL vegetables are full of carbs and toxic stuff the plant makes to stop you eating it. Why do you think it produces the gassy side effects? Its not because your digestive system finds it agreeable.
2) Barley: barley is a seed which is a plant baby. Plants dont like you eating their babies, so they resist that by putting toxins in them. They also put hard husks around them to make them more metabolically expensive to eat – ancient humans did not ingest any signficant amount of seeds, they were too small to bother harvesting, too hard to digest and only available for a small part of the year anyway.
3) Carrot: = vegetables = see above
4) Green Beans: = vegetables AND seeds, see above.
5) Beef/ beef fat: the only health bits and the only ‘ancestral foods’ which ancient humans evolved to eat.
6) Wheat/celery/onion/flour: all = seeds/vegetables/carbs, see above.

Humans can exist SOLELY on fat and protein and need no carbs at all. You are designed to run on meat, you have the digestive system of a dog not a goat – plants are what your food eats, not you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:06 am

Is it …
“a single Talisker”,
“a double Tallisker”
“a triple Talllisker”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 21, 2022 9:09 am

Feckin’ Oirish.
Nearly knew a Rose of Tralee, once upon a time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:10 am

Indolentsays:

August 21, 2022 at 8:57 am

The podiatrist knows because he can tell by doing feet examinations?

I believe he does occasionally talk to you patients, not to mention noticing if some of them die.

And the podiatrist’s expertise in determining cause of death would be what exactly?
Who knows, maybe they suicided after an hour of conspiratorial dribble?

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 21, 2022 9:13 am

Custard, this could escalate really quickly. Hold on.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 21, 2022 9:13 am

In my uni flat days we had two great posters: a Chicko roll lady, and one of John Cleese saying “You still here?”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sancho Panzer says: August 21, 2022 at 9:01 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
August 21, 2022 at 1:06 am

Mine’s a double Tallisker**

It’s working already.
For Talisker is spelt with only one “L”***

There are a few Chinese knock-offs about which might fool the unsophisticated palate.
The dodgy label is often a giveaway.
I do hope no-one has been had.

If that be the case whoever imported it from China is in for a world of pain.
Diageo (world’s.largets.liquor.company)* do not hold back when it comes to protecting the trademark/brand integrity.

*this may have changed since Pernod’s latest buyout of the neighbours – I couldn’t be arsed to check.

***(one who drinks Tobermorey & several other single malts on a daily basis is unlikely, extremely unlikely, to be ‘had’ by a chop-suey knock-off)
**(one who buys their single malt from Woolworths is unlikely to get anything but the real deal – Woolworths will pull all sorts of stunts – but their Tallisker [with double “L”] almost certainly declare on the label which part of Chile it was distilled & aged)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:16 am

FMD!
Mike Tyson.
What next?
Listen up.
Mike Tyson has had a crook back for years.
I wouldn’t mind betting he has been loading up on the pain-killers, which explains his depressed, incoherent ramblings.
That, and he wasn’t too smart to begin with.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 21, 2022 9:17 am

On health related topics.

Dads next door neighbour carked it a couple of days ago.
Bedridden for about 15 years and easily 250kg. Lived with a deep fryer, bar sized freezer and fridge next to her bed.
How the hell someone like that keeps going for so long in that condition is beyond me.

Apparently complained of breathing trouble and while her family was getting her c-pap machine going she just stopped.

Mater
August 21, 2022 9:18 am

Although we need to face reality, Cats – ICE vehicles will be taxed and legislated out of our existence very soon.

True, they’ll try.

What many fail to recognise is the rubicon being crossed as we speak.
Up until now, all these schemes, hoax’s and scares that have been used to control your lives and lighten your pockets have necessarily been theoretical. Somewhat difficult to prove one way or another. Additionally, the ‘payment’ to ‘fight’ these metaphysical threats has been largely painless from the masses point of view. Government debt, lack of redundancy in the energy sector, etc, but the bread and circuses have remained unaffected, so the rorts carried on unopposed.

However, we are now at the tipping point. The science and physical reality, which can’t be outrun or papered over by propaganda, is about to kick in. Power outages, inability to charge compulsory EVs within the current grid, food shortages, exorbitant food prices, etc.

When these unavoidable physical impacts (which are now baked in and inevitable) starts cutting in, the bread and Circuses stop. The response will no longer be ambivalence, but something more. They have pushed the pendulum too hard, and it’s about to swing past the point of political comfort, and they are now powerless to stop it. The politicians have forgotten the old adage, “You can shear a sheep many times, but you can only skin it once”.

One might argue that the Covid response proves the populace’s tolerance to tyrannical dictates. It does, to a certain degree, but ask yourself, did the bread and circuses (Netflix) ever stop. No, what’s ahead is different.

Watch this space. It’s not going to be pretty, but it’s not going to pan out the way the elites think, either.

A small taste of what occurs when power goes out for a couple of hours in Melbourne’s inner suburbs:

Hipstergeddon

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 21, 2022 9:19 am

A year eight student at a private school in Melbourne identifies as a cat, and as long as she does her school work, the school is supporting her assumed identity.

Although she is “phenomenally bright”, she is understood not to be verbal at school.

“No one seems to have a protocol for students identifying as animals, but the approach has been that if it doesn’t disrupt the school, everyone is being supportive,” a source close the family said.

No wonder they can’t get enough teachers…Herald-Sun

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2022 9:20 am

The Liberals are totally rooted-Federal: Have lost office after being flown into the ground by Malcolm Turnbull and then Scott Morrison, two Prime Ministers who saw the Liberal Party as a vehicle for personal ambition and took from it far more than they gave.Well worth a read

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 21, 2022 9:21 am

I blame covid
Or the vax

Or vaxvid.

But Im ruling out monkeypox.
Or montypox.

Vicki
Vicki
August 21, 2022 9:21 am

Re: the podiatrist’s report of unusual number of deaths of patients.

Yes – I read that report. There are many others like them from other professionals who have a regular client base. Indeed, many of us can offer anecdotal (yes, anecdotal) reports of sudden and unexpected deaths of friends and acquaintances.

More significant are the reports of funeral directors and embalmers (in the US) and also insurance companies who are experiencing increases in payouts. These are mostly coming from the USA. But they are real and significant.

Time will tell what is the cause of what the statisticians coyly call “excess deaths”. Many of us have our firm opinions – but only time will tell.

As I have said many time before on this blog – I pray that I am wrong in my reading of what is happening.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:25 am

How much longer do we have left again?
Is it 9-39 months?
Or 8-38 months?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 9:26 am

TIL that the only country the Saudi’s allow duel citizenship is with is the US.
Somewhere between 250k-300k Saudi’s have taken advantage of that.
The exact number is secret due to “state security reasons”.
You could only imagine the wealth that cohort has.

Frank
Frank
August 21, 2022 9:28 am

Discerning gen x prefer steamed pork buns from chinatown to pot noodles.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 21, 2022 9:28 am

Even the BBC now has to acknowledge COVID-19 vaccine-related deaths when they are undeniably linked to the vaccines mandated on many national populations. While, of course, declaring them to be “very rare,” the British media acknowledged that a rock star named Zion XXX started from Alston in Cumbria passed away after developing an “excruciating” headache just eight days after receiving the AstraZeneca/Oxford jab back in May 2021. An inquest has finally come to the conclusion that Zion XXX died as a result of “Vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia.” And that his finance was actually the first person in the UK to receive COVID-19 compensation due to a death associated with the vaccine.

Trialsitenews.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 9:30 am

Mater says:
August 21, 2022 at 9:18 am

Mater, what have you done with Grogarly?

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2022 9:31 am

“The Liberals are totally rooted-Federal: Have lost office after being flown into the ground by Malcolm Turnbull and then Scott Morrison, two Prime Ministers who saw the Liberal Party as a vehicle for personal ambition and took from it far more than they gave.Well worth a read”

Yep, it’s a very good and accurate piece. Further to the stupid fucking Liberals, what’s the bet that they spend their time over the next three years trying to get back electorates like Wentworth and North Sydney….rather than kissing them goodbye and trying to win the outer electorates.

Mater
August 21, 2022 9:34 am

Mater, what have you done with Grogarly?

Don’t know.
Backpackers are now allowed back into this country, so I imagine he’s busy in his basement.

Zipster
August 21, 2022 9:35 am
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 21, 2022 9:35 am

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Very cheap subscription, this is a great site. But daily headlines and the beginning of each article are free.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:36 am

The Liberals are totally rooted …

As they supposedly were in 2007.
And then Abbott took them to within two turncoats of a win in 2010.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Further to the stupid fucking Liberals, what’s the bet that they spend their time over the next three years trying to get back electorates like Wentworth and North Sydney….rather than kissing them goodbye and trying to win the outer electorates.

In similar fashion, the SFNs (N=Nationals) for several election cycles expended the greater part of their budget & much of their volunteer political talent on [spectacularly unsuccessfully] attempting to unseat Bob Katter from the electorate of Kennedy.
It was sorta like watching waves at the seashore dash themselves against rocks.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2022 9:40 am

Sleazy only knows how to fight Tories, so his obsession with Scumbag being the Minister for Everything will backfire.

Frank
Frank
August 21, 2022 9:42 am

Mater, what have you done with Grogarly?

Didn’t he have a brain tumour at one point.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 21, 2022 9:43 am

Well covered by Mark Stein in interviews.

“his finance was actually the first person in the UK to receive COVID-19 compensation due to a death associated with the vaccine”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:45 am

Franksays:

August 21, 2022 at 9:42 am

Mater, what have you done with Grogarly?

Didn’t he have a brain tumour at one point.

There was certainly something wrong with the circuitry.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 21, 2022 9:45 am

Do doctors have the right to quote research results, even if they are disputed, challenged, or represent some controversial stance opposed to a formal government position? What if the data is the result from their own research or real-world care? The answer: increasingly no, as national governments pressure medical professional licensing bodies and health systems, indirectly, to punish any medical providers that promulgate “misinformation.” Of course, misinformation is a broad term with many interpretations, and in Australia health systems and hospitals take a heavy approach to handling their doctors. One recent example is Dr. Luke McLindon, a prominent physician who went on the record claiming that the COVID-19 vaccines are linked to miscarriages. A controversial topic not proven, yet the topic of growing health activists’ concerns. Dr. McLindon was terminated from Mater Hospital a couple of months ago, and he has gone on the record as to some of the details of his sacking from the Brisbane-based hospital. Dr. McLindon and several other physicians have taken their terminations to court in the hope of securing justice, which they now pursue in Australia’s Supreme Court.

Australia has strict vaccine mandates, with near universal immunization against COVID-19. Yet TrialSite has chronicled multiple times now that more than twice the number of Australians have died in the first 12 weeks of 2022 due to COVID-19 than in all of 2020 and 2021. This disturbing fact unfortunately associates with a near-universally vaccinated population. TrialSite has reported on similar trends in New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and more. Clearly, a combination of vaccine durability challenges and a mutating RNA virus—which they are known to do—are factors behind this trend.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/prominent-australian-physician-investigator-sacked-by-major-hospital-for-views-on-covid-19-vaccines-f

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2022 9:47 am

As they supposedly were in 2007.
And then Abbott took them to within two turncoats of a win in 2010.

very true but in those days people like Abbott and Bernie Finn were still in the party

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:47 am

What is “Australia’s Supreme Court”?

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2022 9:49 am

Sleazy only knows how to fight Tories, so his obsession with Scumbag being the Minister for Everything will backfire.

yes and it shows that Anal’s ‘work experience’ is nothing more than playing political games.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:49 am

very true but in those days people like Abbott and Bernie Finn were still in the party

True.
I didn’t suggest it would be the Liberal Party of 2010.
Just that there is ebb and flow in a two party system.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:56 am

Questions for the “Australian Supreme Court”.
Re the claim that Luke McLindon was “recently fired for his views”.
When did he last work at Mater Hospital?
Was it November 2021?
What was the cohort he chose for his “vax causes miscarriage” assertion?
Was it a group of 38 women already identified as extremely high risk pregnancies?

Zipster
August 21, 2022 9:57 am

Daughter of Ukraine war mastermind ‘is blown to pieces in Moscow car bomb’: Darya Dugin ‘assassinated in attack meant for her father Alexander’ – one of Putin’s closest aides often dubbed the Russian leader’s ‘brain’
Darya Dugin was driving back from festival when her car suddenly exploded on a road on outskirts of Moscow
According to reports, her father Alexander, 60, was meant to be travelling with her but went in separate car
Highly influential Alexander is the former chief editor of the staunchly pro-Putin Tsargrad TV network

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 9:58 am

Doncha just love crusaders who trade on the misery of others to push a point?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 21, 2022 10:11 am

Darya Dugin was driving back from festival when her car suddenly exploded on a road on outskirts of Moscow

EV strikes again. Put that one down to climate change.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2022 10:13 am

I didn’t suggest it would be the Liberal Party of 2010.
Just that there is ebb and flow in a two party system.

yes but then you’d expect Guy to be in the box seat to replace the dick-tator. Thing was opposition leaders like Kennett, Greiner and Abbott did promise (or suggest at least) real change, an improvement.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 10:16 am

Sancho Panzersays:
August 21, 2022 at 9:36 am
The Liberals are totally rooted …

As they supposedly were in 2007.
And then Abbott took them to within two turncoats of a win in 2010.

They need someone with the ideas of Abbott and the arrogance of Turdballs?

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 21, 2022 10:33 am

Bedridden for about 15 years and easily 250kg. Lived with a deep fryer, bar sized freezer and fridge next to her bed. How the hell someone like that keeps going for so long in that condition is beyond me.

She was just another ‘fat cow’ being farmed by the Big Food and Big Pharma for as long as they could. Given she was most likely housebound, someone was enabling it by going out for her food, meds etc, and I bet she was on a ‘pension’ of some sort transferring $ from the ever shrinking pool of productive citizens. Its a complex scheme, but you make the farmed citizen sick and dependent, then you take $ off the taxpayer and run it through her to the real beneficiaries, the food and drug companies, ‘health care’ workers and of course, theres ‘10% for the govt big guy’ throughout.

local oaf
August 21, 2022 10:37 am

Today’s MSM is not the media of 2007 either. Back then, the media still reported on the real world (to some extent).
Now the MSM only acknowledges it’s ideological soulmates at twitter, insta, tiktok, fakebook, etc.
The rest of us are the carbon they want to eliminate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 10:39 am

They need someone with the ideas of Abbott and the arrogance of Turdballs?

Increased paid parental leave and green work for the dole? Abbott was only ever PM because R-G-R were monumentally bad. If the Lieborals didn’t throw him out the electorate (with plenty of help from the media) would have done so. It might have taken a couple of electoral cycles given the size of his majority.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 10:46 am

Abbott did a good job as Leader of the Opposition. He had a lot to work with. The Liars on illegal immigration was arguably the greatest single, pure policy political decision I have ever seen made.

Makka
Makka
August 21, 2022 10:46 am

Increased paid parental leave and green work for the dole? Abbott was only ever PM because R-G-R were monumentally bad.

Abbott was doing fine, until he started listening to women and trying to please the wets in the SFL’s and the left. It was all downhill from then on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 10:46 am

Abbott was only ever PM because R-G-R were monumentally bad.

In part yes.
And where does Elbow sit on the “monumentally bad” scale against R-G-R?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 10:53 am

And where does Elbow sit on the “monumentally bad” scale against R-G-R?

He has potential to exceed it. No surprise Albo and Gillard both hail from the Left. Early days yet.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 10:59 am

In part yes.

Which part of the Abbott government mandate do you say the electorate had embraced? The carbon tax was still just a slogan at that point. I’m not even sure any company had paid it. Hockey brought down his first Budget, hit the brakes and reverse. The rest is history.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 21, 2022 11:00 am

feelthebernsays:
August 21, 2022 at 4:51 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiko_Roll

A Chiko Roll’s filling is primarily cabbage and barley, as well as carrot, green beans, beef, beef tallow, wheat cereal, celery and onion.[2] The filling is partially pulped and enclosed in a thick egg and flour pastry tube,

Must be fake news. No mention of bacon. The comics assured me that Captain Goodvibes came into existence when a half eaten Chiko Roll floated through some radioactive outflow from a nuclear power station and the radiation acted upon a piece of bacon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 11:04 am

An inquest has finally come to the conclusion that Zion XXX died as a result of “Vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia.” And that his finance was actually the first person in the UK to receive COVID-19 compensation due to a death associated with the vaccine.

This is old news re the Astra Zeneca vaxx. From it’s earliest introduction a one in a million (later shown to be more than that, probably five in a million) chance of death was a known factor. Panic times ruled re the vaxxes. It’s what led to the Qld Health Minister put the axe into the AZ vaxx for under 40’s. Just from memory, a woman in NSW and a man (known to a friend of mine) in Tasmania, both in their 40’s, died from thrombotic thrombocytopenia, and others did too, or were severely injured by it, losing parts of their intestine etc due to clots. That’s all on the record for Australia’s experience with AZ. Deaths from vaxxes come with the territory, the worst ones, like Yellow Fever, have a death rate of one in a million. This is always judged against the lives saved. With Covid, it should have been judged only against any life-saving factor amongst older people. But it wasn’t, so the chance of the vaxx killing you vs the virus doing so evened out somewhat for younger people. And then there are injuries, poorly recorded, but which seem to be worse for Pfizer than for AZ.

Which is why we took AZ and later a booster of Novavax.

Don’t regret having them at our ages of 70 and 80. We’ve had a mild Covid, and followed it all up with successful travel in Britain. No way on earth we can tell if the vaxxes helped, or the vitamins, but they had no harmful effect that we know of. Life’s a risk and a gamble. Live life to the full knowing that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 11:04 am

.. its earliest
Apostrophe man strikes again.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 21, 2022 11:07 am

If the Lieborals didn’t throw him out the electorate (with plenty of help from the media) would have done so. It might have taken a couple of electoral cycles given the size of his majority.

Maybe, but perhaps an impending clobbering at the ballot box would have reignited his fighting instincts.
Don’t forget Mick Trumble would have achieved oblivion in one electoral cycle if the Nats hadn’t clawed back a seat from Labor.
And ScoMo won the next time largely because the MSM were howling that his accession was a swing back to the right. [Spoiler alert! It wasn’t. Which in turn led to him being punted when the electorate realised what a vacuous waste of space he was.]

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 21, 2022 11:08 am

Humans can exist SOLELY on fat and protein and need no carbs at all. You are designed to run on meat, you have the digestive system of a dog not a goat – plants are what your food eats, not you.

I recently got a Home Economics class as an extra. It was on the diet of the Inuit. Reindeer offal provided them with the required vitamins and minerals, and what we consider the “prime” cuts (eg fillet) is fed to the dogs.

Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 11:10 am

I’m reading an account of the Austro – Hungarian campaign of 1914. Deployment was to be by railway -that deployment was so badly planned, it would have been quicker for the troops to march.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 11:11 am

For what it’s worth me saying once more, throughout this ‘pandemic’ we had no hesitation in mixing socially with unvaxxed people, welcoming them with hugs and kisses into our home and seeing any measures we took as our own business just as any measures taken or not taken by others as entirely their own business too. If we had been seriously concerned we were always free to stay home as isolates, a choice we did not make.

Stopping the rest of the world from going about its business seemed like a very bad idea; which it was.
In June 2020 I published an article in Quadrant about our travels in early March and the uncertainty about the nature of the virus in those first few weeks. By April when I was writing this article I noted even then that there it now appeared to me that there was serious over-reaction going on re Covid.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 21, 2022 11:13 am

that deployment was so badly planned, it would have been quicker for the troops to march.

Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 21, 2022 11:17 am

. By April when I was writing this article I noted even then that there it now appeared to me that there was serious over-reaction going on re Covid.

As I have several comorbidities I will confess to being scared at the outset. When did I change my mind?
Two words … “Diamond Princess”

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 11:17 am

Timothy Neilson at 11:07 – SloMo was certainly given the benefit of the doubt. Until he wasn’t.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 11:18 am

Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.

I ate one recently in a situation of low choice. It was as foul as those I recall from the 1960’s and I tossed half of it away.

It hasn’t killed me yet.

custard
custard
August 21, 2022 11:20 am

The movie Selection Code has just started on frankspeech.com

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 11:23 am

A group of Mormon extremists have just stormed a Somali hotel.
20 odd dead.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 11:24 am

Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?

The very same Conrad – seems he was too busy lusting after one Virginia von Reininghaus to devote himself to the business of running the Austro – Hungarian Army. The fact that the lady was married to someone else, and had six children seems not to have mattered.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2022 11:30 am

Re the Diamond Princess cruise ship stranded in Japan. Here is an account from March 2020 detailing how things were run. What wasn’t considered back then was the extent to which the air circulation within the closed ship was contributory to rates of infection. More attention was paid to contact hygiene as a factor. But yes, Diogenes, the majority of people didn’t catch Covid. Instructive.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 11:31 am

Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.

Chiko rolls are fine. Not my preferred add-on at the fish and chippery. As a youth I would occasionally buy a frozen 4 pack with one for Saturday lunch. The key, as Sancho notes, is to cut them into 1 inch disks and pan fry. Which simulates the end bit which was always the best.

sfw
sfw
August 21, 2022 11:34 am

Cassie, I understand your objections to direct election but I can’t see any other way to improve the system. The ideal would be a system that no matter who is in power they can’t wreck things too much, if at all. That requires I guess, laws and a constitution that if followed bad things would be almost impossible to be done by elected officials and senior gov figures. That’s not going to happen. The entire public service, all branches have been stacked over the years with politicised people who cannot be thrown out, they’ve entrenched leftism and snouts at the trough. At least elections for the senior positions would allow some change and let all of us have a say in things. Continuing with the current system hoping you can eventually stack it with your people is not a solution.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 11:34 am

Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?

Yah. That’s what I remember. The AGS wanted the whole army on one front then decided about a week later they all had to be on the other front.

Logistics, logistics, logistics someone said once.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 11:40 am

Was that the one where that strategic and tactical genius Conrad von Hotzendorf, tried to do what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?

The brilliant strategic thinking that led to the Austro Hungarian Army suffering the highest rate of casualties in World War One – 90% of all men mobilized were killed, wounded or captured.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2022 11:43 am

We buy the South Melbourne market dimmies frozen in the supermarket.
The size of a small fist and … mmmmmm.

Brother and his family also get them from the SMM. I have heard countless tales of how good they are, seen them etc etc at his house.

Naturally, given this state of affairs, and as the visiting uncle I am publicly against them and refuse to eat them – solely for the purposes of getting a rise out of the SiL, and the nieces in particular.

The last time I was there, and deliberately having a sandwich while the rest of them were tucking into the SMM dimmies I moved on from the old ‘full of stray cats’ chestnut to telling dark tales of how the dimmie shop owners really work for the Triads, and of bodies going through woodchippers with the remnants scraped up and disposed of in the dimmie mix.

The SiL went pale. The girls loved it, nom nomming their way through a dimmie pile the size of your head.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 11:43 am

Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 21, 2022 11:43 am

Chiko rolls are the invention of Satan. You do not want to be in the same postcode as me if I am hungry enough to eat one.

Satans littler helpers?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 21, 2022 11:46 am

Narrative change alert.
NY Times runs column on the dangers of TikTok.
This will be the first time some sheeple have heard of these dangers.

Keep in mind a few years ago calling TikTok even concerning was Trumpian level racism.

This keeps happening, huh?

Lefties state an uninformed opinion (or, at best informed by a reflexive desire for reason to call their opponents are liars) and are intoxicated on the heady elixir of their own obvious brilliance.

But, finally, events scour away the flimsy sophistry and platitudes they had spun around the truth until there is only truth – hard and unyielding as stone – remaining.

Then, Behold! Suddenly they have brilliantly (again) discovered the truth that is the opposite of what they previously held.

But they do not concede their enemies were right all along. No. They are rubes. Instead they will pride themselves on the subtlety of the circuitous route to truth that those benighted rubes could never have trod.

The people who are right in the first place are stupid. The people who were wrong are brilliant.

Just more sophistry.

sfw
sfw
August 21, 2022 11:47 am

HB, fair enough, tell me how you would improve the system from where we are now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 11:48 am

The brilliant strategic thinking that led to the Austro Hungarian Army suffering the highest rate of casualties in World War One – 90% of all men mobilized were killed, wounded or captured.

Materially assisted by a Gen. Aleksei Alekseyevich Brusilov.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 11:49 am

I used to do my weekly vege shopping at the South Melbourne Market on a Sunday. I preferred the spring rolls, although I think they had a lot of white pepper in them. If you like kitchen shit the Chefs Hat store opposite is worth a visit.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2022 11:49 am

You have to add some specific, yet nondescript detail in the tale to make it believable though.

‘You remember the old bloke at the ice cream caravan on The Strand the last time I was here? He had those double rocky road cones you loved?

‘He’s not there now, is he? You know why? His name was Ernie Chow, and let’s just say ice cream wasn’t all he sold. Ernie owed some money to some people, and Ernie didn’t pay his debts on time, and Ernie didn’t show enough respect……’

At this point, Quenthland pub singer-style, one must adopt a steely-eyed gaze aimed at somewhere in the middle distance. Then, after a suitable pause:

‘How are the dimmies, girls?’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 11:50 am

It’s what led to the Qld Health Minister put the axe into the AZ vaxx for under 40’s.

… and also the CHO’s hubby was hooked up with Pfizer?

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2022 11:51 am

…what von Moltke said was impossible and turn the troops around and send them in the opposite direction ?

I seem to recall that, after the war, a researcher found a file in the archives of the Kriegsministerium that detailed, down to the last railway movement, just how the German armies could switch fronts to the East if required. I’m not sure if it’s ever been determined that von Moltke knew of these plans.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 11:53 am

 If you like kitchen shit the Chefs Hat store opposite is worth a visit.

The Bunnings of cookery gear.
Unfortunate concatenation of the name on their web address printed on their van.
chefshat.com.au
I always read it as chef shat, not chef’s hat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2022 11:53 am

Hahaha.

‘the Australian Supreme Court’ at 9.45.

Does it have a REAL JURDGE? What about REAL EVIDENCES?

Has anyone checked for satire disclaimers?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 11:55 am

The last time I was there, and deliberately having a sandwich while the rest of them were tucking into the SMM dimmies I moved on from the old ‘full of stray cats’ chestnut to telling dark tales of how the dimmie shop owners really work for the Triads, and of bodies going through woodchippers with the remnants scraped up and disposed of in the dimmie mix.

Whatevs.
They taste good.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 11:55 am

sfw – think you just have to suck it up. The public service (I suspect) naturally leans left but generally we are a long way from Victoriastan or the US FBI. I hold out the possibly forlorn hope the Separation of Powers will address things.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2022 11:57 am

Whatevs.
They taste good.

Totes whatevs.

That’s how the servo kransky industry survived all these years.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 21, 2022 11:58 am

Don’t forget Mick Trumble would have achieved oblivion in one electoral cycle if the Nats hadn’t clawed back a seat from Labor.

Exactly.
Blew up a 16 seat majority.
His idea of campaigning was exchanging Twatter “witticisms” with @Murpheroo whilst sipping his fair-trade in Double Bay.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 11:58 am

What wasn’t considered back then was the extent to which the air circulation within the closed ship was contributory to rates of infection.

Who are these idiots?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 12:01 pm

I should add I am a great believer of heads on poles. One of which should have been Martin Parkinsons on Day 2 of the Abbott government.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 12:05 pm

From it’s earliest introduction a one in a million (later shown to be more than that, probably five in a million) chance of death was a known factor.

Which means it wouldn’t have got approved in a sane world. If a vax is producing one in a million adverse reactions it’s on the cusp of being rejected, let alone effectively mandated.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 12:05 pm

sfw

The ideal would be a system that no matter who is in power they can’t wreck things too much, if at all. That requires I guess, laws and a constitution that if followed bad things would be almost impossible to be done by elected officials and senior gov figures.

There is a quote, can’t recall the author, alomg the line:

“The solution is not to seek to put nothing but good people in politics, it is to have a system under which the incentive is for bad people to do the right thing.”

Random public executions might provide the incentive? Or, at least, keep the worst out?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 21, 2022 12:05 pm

Chopper Read told stories about recently assisted deceased persons being fed into the dim sim mixer.

Saved digging holes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 21, 2022 12:07 pm

That’s how the servo kransky industry survived all these years.

Somebody must be buying them. I’ll ask at the Hay truck stop next time I’m passing through.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 12:08 pm

H B Bearsays:
August 21, 2022 at 11:43 am
Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.

The UK introduced elected police commissioners in some jurisdictions a while ago.

The result was not encouraging, with elected “Labour” commissioners doing what might have been expected in the face of “Asian” wape gangs – covering it all up.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 21, 2022 12:08 pm

How much longer do we have left again?

Ask Prince Charles.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 12:09 pm

Daniel Andrews’ gigantic rail fiasco is about to get some competition for the stupidest and most expensive boondoggle in the country.

‘Ambitious’: World’s largest hydrogen plant to be built in South Australia (21 Aug)

South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas has spruiked his government’s $593 million green hydrogen plant to be built in Whyalla but says the plan does not come without risk.

The world’s largest hydrogen plant is set to be built in South Australia.

The government-funded project has attracted interest from 60 organisations around Australia and globally.

Mr Malinauskas said the plant is scheduled to be operational by the end of 2025.

He said it will alleviate pressure on the state’s energy system but “is not going to solve every problem”.

“It is an ambitious policy – it’s not without a degree of risk in a policy sense but also in a technical sense,” he told Sky News Australia.

This is not without risk in the same way as dropping a live hydrogen bomb onto his state is not without risk. It’d be fun to watch the disaster except Canberra will eventually bail them out with our taxes. Betcha.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 12:10 pm

All-in Podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nId3Jy5bjrY

From the 25min mark there’s 20mins of them discussing a billionaire objecting to medium density housing being being built in his community.
What makes this interesting is that the 4 people on the All-in Podcast are all billionaires themselves.

custard
custard
August 21, 2022 12:10 pm

A major motion pertaining to the Fourth Amendment will soon be filed concerning the illegal Break-In of my home, Mar-a-Lago, right before the ever important Mid-Term Elections. My rights, together with the rights of all Americans, have been violated at a level rarely seen before in our Country. Remember, they even spied on my campaign. The greatest Witch Hunt in USA history has been going on for six years, with no consequences to the scammers. It should not be allowed to continue!

Donald J Trump.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2022 12:12 pm

Chopper Read told stories about recently assisted deceased persons being fed into the dim sim mixer.

As Christopher Moltisanti said to a colleague: The next time you’re at Satriale’s, avoid the sausage.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 12:12 pm

Daniel Andrews’ gigantic rail fiasco

So dumb he thinks Ring Rail would work the same as Ring Road.

Of course Melbourne used to have inner Ring Rail, and it was scrapped because no one used it.

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2022 12:15 pm

The government-funded project has attracted interest from 60 organisations around Australia and globally.

Privatise the (subsidised) profits, socialise the risk.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 12:16 pm

rickwsays:
August 21, 2022 at 12:12 pm
Daniel Andrews’ gigantic rail fiasco

So dumb he thinks Ring Rail would work the same as Ring Road.

That isn’t the purpose. The purpose is to turn vast quantities of taxpayer money into grift for maaaaates.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 21, 2022 12:18 pm

If a vax is producing one in a million adverse reactions it’s on the cusp of being rejected, let alone effectively mandated.

And the one in a million is only what’s officially recognised.
Given that Queensland doctors aren’t allowed to put “covid vaxx” on a death certificate, even if they’re sure it directly caused the death, without contacting the government for “advice”, shall we say that it would not be a total shock to find that those figures are understated?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2022 12:18 pm

rickwsays:
August 21, 2022 at 12:12 pm
Daniel Andrews’ gigantic rail fiasco

Of course Melbourne used to have inner Ring Rail, and it was scrapped because no one used it.

Compare to London’s Circle Line, which is very well used, but very close to the centre of town, The M-25, OTOH …

P
P
August 21, 2022 12:19 pm

Archbishop Viganò Was Right About Donald Trump

These comments by Viganò are exactly correct, in my opinion. In our world today, there are many people who still have enough sense to listen to their gut, to try and follow the Natural Law, even if they do not have the words to describe it. You don’t have to be a Catholic to understand that grooming kids is wrong, or that killing infants in the womb is evil. Normal non-serpentine people understand these things without having to have it explained to them.

But it is true that there is a contingency of borderline possessed or sociopathic individuals who will stop at nothing and be stopped by no metaphysical moral principles on their quest to damn the human race.

For whatever reason, Trump—warts, bad haircut, failed marriages and all—manifested as something like an instrument of Providence to lead the flawed yet sane people of the free world against the sulphuric nutjobs who want to turn the world’s most influential nation into a carbon copy of the CCP.

The recent raid of Trump’s home just confirms what Viganò said in that letter from June 2020 about the “children of darkness” stopping at nothing to bring down any semblance of goodness and truth.

In his October 2020 letter to the former president, Viganò added emphatically that it was Trump (or whatever Trump represents) who stood between a deep state takeover and a free and sane America.

He wrote: “It is you, dear President, who are ‘the one who opposes’ the deep state, the final assault of the children of darkness.”

Again, whatever you think about Trump, it is clear that the deep state views him as almost an existential threat, and they will stop at nothing to take him down. This must give us pause.

Much like in Scripture when it is the demons who attest to the divinity of Christ, it is almost like the demonic globalists can’t help but attest by their hatred for Trump that he is the leading figure of an America that Viganò labeled: “The defending wall against which the war declared by the advocates of globalism has been unleashed.”

What the fallout from the raid at Mar-a-Lago will be remains to be seen, but one thing we can be sure about is that Viganò was right about Trump.

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2022 12:26 pm

H B Bear says:
August 21, 2022 at 11:43 am
Anyone who thinks the direct election of judges, police commissioners and dog catchers will solve anything hasn’t been paying attention. You think you’ll end up with Florida, find out it’s actually California and whatever COAG is now will see in introduced as uniform legislation in the interests of efficiency.

Sortition.
Recall elections.
Confederalism.
Subsidiarity.

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Oh yes and jury nullification.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2022 12:29 pm

Compare to London’s Circle Line, which is very well used

Well it would be except it’s summer.

Transport strike: Commuters brace for trouble as London Underground and bus staff walkout (19 Aug)

The unions are doing this every couple weeks lately. Weirdly enough roads don’t tend to go on strike.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 21, 2022 12:33 pm

Problem with electing judges and prosecutors is knowing who not to vote for. Like council elections – I really have no idea as the candidates are often obscure.

calli
calli
August 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Weirdly enough roads don’t tend to go on strike.

Fuel prices fix that.

Not going Green. Going without. – that’s a keeper

Frank
Frank
August 21, 2022 12:43 pm

It was on the diet of the Inuit. Reindeer offal provided them with the required vitamins and minerals, and what we consider the “prime” cuts (eg fillet) is fed to the dogs.

In the nineties it was fashionable with some people I knew to be into the modern primitive movement, tribal tatts and so on. They were always banging on about the superiority of native cultures and one of the reasons given was how they used every bit of the animal rather than the godless honkey that was prone to disrespecting the beasts by wasting so much of them. Sinews and arses presumably.

Guess they never heard of hot dogs.

P
P
August 21, 2022 12:44 pm

that’s a keeper

From a woman – Neil Oliver’s wife:
it’s not about going green, it’s about going without

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2022 12:45 pm

Guess they never heard of hot dogs.

Savages.

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2022 12:47 pm

Sortition.
Recall elections.
Confederalism.
Subsidiarity.

A las barricadas!

Frank
Frank
August 21, 2022 12:47 pm

Servo kransky, we had the ones with a cheese vein running down the centre, when deep fried it would get scalding hot and the first bite would ejaculate it everywhere potentially causing burns. Pus snaggers, lived on them, horrible things. Deep fried hot dogs with added gristle.

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 12:57 pm

H B Bear says:
August 21, 2022 at 10:46 am

Abbott did a good job as Leader of the Opposition. He had a lot to work with. The Liars on illegal immigration was arguably the greatest single, pure policy political decision I have ever seen made.

Closing down the parasitic car manufacturing bullshit was as good as shutting down illegal immigration.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 1:07 pm

Closing down the parasitic car manufacturing bullshit was as good as shutting down illegal immigration.

Job half done:

Then entirety of the ADR’s and associated bureaucracy should have been shut down and fired. The vehicle import restriction boon-doogle ended. The import duties scheme on “luxury cars” ended.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 21, 2022 1:11 pm

Do we even have ADRs now? Seems to be all fucking euro standards now.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 21, 2022 1:12 pm

Euro6 emission sorta stuff

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:13 pm

I’m a glass half full guy, Rickw. Closing it down saved us 50K per useless job.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 1:15 pm

I’m currently in one of the locations that is supposedly going to be ended by Climate Change and sea level rises.

Everyone drives petrol cars and motorcycles, even though it’s perfectly suited to ev’s being small and dead flat.
All power is generated by burning vast quantities of diesel.
Virtually everything they need is brought in by ship or aircraft, only local produce is chickens (small and very tasty).
Ever square inch of indoors is air conditioned.
There is no such thing as recycling.
All the rubbish goes to one island where it is effectively dealt with by a 24/7 tip fire.
There are vast amounts of sea side construction going on.

It’s kind of like they don’t believe the hype, but have their hand out for $.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 21, 2022 1:21 pm

It’s kind of like they don’t believe the hype, but have their hand out for $.

how odd / sarc

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2022 1:24 pm

It’s kind of like they don’t believe the hype, but have their hand out for $.

And Elbow & Mr. Wong will happily oblige them.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 21, 2022 1:26 pm

Odd JCs hatred of local automobile manufacturing. Unlike the renewbull parasites, they did turn out a useful product. They were certainly happy to drive our camrys in the ME.

cohenite
August 21, 2022 1:27 pm

Watched the merrick garland defence of the FBI raid on Trump again as interpreted by the body language. There’s no doubt he was told to do stuff and someone else did the deciding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oFqhWuJVQ

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:28 pm

Zipster, that link with the English host and the American “futurist” (dunno what else to call him) was pretty decent. What’s the American’s name and does he have a decent bio?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 21, 2022 1:30 pm

A foul smell alerted a Moreton Bay region landlord to call the police and ask them to check inside her property, afraid she would find something dead inside.

“Lisa Williams” would later discover her tenants had destroyed and abandoned her house, leaving it covered it in faeces.

Ms Williams, who has chosen not to use her real name, owns a home in Burpengary which she privately rented to a couple with three young children last December.

She became worried when they started to miss rent payments and failed to show up to several inspection appointments.

After an “atrocious” smell started seeping from the house last week she decided to call the police, expecting the worst.

When she walked inside, Ms Williams found the house trashed, floors splattered in faeces, mounds of rubbish, paraphernalia, and “god knows what else”.

“The smell was absolutely atrocious,” Ms Williams said.

“There were holes in doors everywhere, decking boards had been split, paint was spilt all over the timber floors inside, skirting boards were ripped off.

“I also found s***loads of letters saying they owed SPUR debt and Energex bills.

“There were bongs in there, it was full on.”

Ms Williams says she’s at least $10,000 out of pocket after the ordeal, but was mostly shocked at the lack of respect for her property.

“My initial thought was, there’s so many people complaining about people not being able to get rental and yet this is how mine was treated,” she said.

“And there’s been so many headlines of people not being able to afford a rental, I just couldn’t believe it.

“The reason why I went private was because I’m a single mum and I needed as much money as possible to get more things done on the house while covering the mortgage.

“Now the missed rent is $5,500 but I’m at a $10,000 loss at least, maybe even $20,000, there’s just so many things that need doing.”

She’s now “working her butt off” to get the house back in order and will soon rent the home to the people helping her clean it up.

“I’ve really seen the worst and then the best in people,” Ms Williams said.

“This lovely lady Mirrandah Morris has a cleaning business and she’s staying here and helping me clean the place for free, I’ve recommended her to everyone.

“I’ve also made an arrangement with a man called Damien, he’s going to put his daughter and her family in here and paint the place for me and I’m just giving them a reduced rent for a bit, like $400 a week.

“It’s still fairly stinky, it’s feral really but I’m working my butt cheeks off so they can move in a soon as possible.”

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:35 pm

Odd JCs hatred of local automobile manufacturing. Unlike the renewbull parasites, they did turn out a useful product. They were certainly happy to drive our camrys in the ME.

Nothing odd about that Milton as you obviously didn’t understand the context nor the intent. To refresh your memory – Bear suggested Abbott shutting down illegal immigration was a good thing. I agreed and added that closing down that parasitic sector was also a good thing too.. I hope you realize that because I supported that closing down doesn’t mean I support the parasitical behavior of the renew ball industry.

And no, the sector produced absolute shitty cars for the cost. Keep in mind the enormous subsidies and the tariff wall punishment meted against imported cars. All up, a domestic manufactured shit heap would have ended up costing us $150K per vehicle when those costs are factored. Fuck no.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 21, 2022 1:36 pm

seem to recall that, after the war, a researcher found a file in the archives of the Kriegsministerium that detailed, down to the last railway movement, just how the German armies could switch fronts to the East if required. I’m not sure if it’s ever been determined that von Moltke knew of these plans.

Barbara Tuchman’s “The Guns Of August” has a very good account of that episode – No, von Moltke didn’t know of the plans.

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 21, 2022 1:38 pm

Wonder if the Russians will start assassinating their enemies

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 1:39 pm

Manufacturer I worked for had quite smart management. Whenever the warehouse store was about 75% full the supervisors would start to niggle the union rep. Minor things, like the showers running out of hot water, not giving a few overtime, the tea being weak or dunny paper being the wrong sort. Silly things, but sure enough within the month no overtime to be worked and then a strike happened. 2 weeks was the longest. That’s about the longest most unions hold out until the members arc up. No more overtime for months or the night shift cut out saw quarter of the employees go somewhere else. They used to do the rounds and be back a year or two later. Problem of too much stock on hand solved. This happened 4 times in the 10 years I was there.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2022 1:40 pm

It stands to reason that preserving Trump’s presidential records was never the aim of trying to recover them from him. The way he is being treated makes you think that the Archives and FBI would like nothing better than to get rid of all records and thus expunge that he was ever a president.

Getting all of the records serves two purposes, find out what Trump knew or was up to and then destroy or lose the records. Oops, we have no idea what happened to them.

I hope Trump has his stash of the good stuff somewhere else.

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:42 pm

He’s 78!

Gary Busey is facing four charges, including two counts of criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree, by the police department of Cherry Hill, N.J. The actor was visiting the town during the weekend of Aug. 12 to Aug. 14 to attend the Monster-Mania Convention at the Doubletree Hotel.

During the time of the convention, Cherry Hill police responded to a report of a sex offense at the Doubletree Hotel. After investigating the incident, detectives charged the 78-year-old actor on four offenses: two counts of criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree, one count of attempting criminal sexual contact in the fourth degree and one disorderly conduct count of harassment. The Cherry Hill Police Department has declined to provide further details regarding the incident at this time.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 21, 2022 1:42 pm

I’d rather an Altona Camry than a kraut wank tank anyway.

cohenite
August 21, 2022 1:43 pm

Assoc Prof Simon Michaux (Uni Qld) The quantity of metal required to make just one generation of renewable tech units to replace fossil fuels, is much larger than first thought. Current mining production of these metals is not even close to meeting demand. Current reported mineral reserves are also not enough in size. Most concerning is copper as one of the flagged shortfalls. Exploration for more at required volumes will be difficult, with this seminar addressing these issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBVmnKuBocc

Amazing stats: albo and the turtle need to be horse-whipped.

Have a look at it head prefect and report back with your usual concise and witty observations.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 21, 2022 1:45 pm

The cleaners at Holden got paid $80k.

rickw
rickw
August 21, 2022 1:45 pm

I’m a glass half full guy, Rickw. Closing it down saved us 50K per useless job.

It’s better than nothing! I just resent not being able to buy a $20k USD end of season run out truck in the US, and being legally able to import it.

There are way more high end sports cars in OZ than were ever officially imported. Create an unreasonable burden on people and criminal cartels will start exploiting the situation. Something the Mongs in OZ gov consistently fail to comprehend.

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:46 pm

Sure thing Milton. You can have want the fuck you want. You can claim you want Saturn and the moons for all I give a shit. I don’t want to pay for your bad habits though.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 21, 2022 1:50 pm

This is the woman convicted of murdering her husband, who was never seen again after disappearing from their yacht, anchored in the Derwent. 13 years – about 7 years too short for killing someone.

SUE Neill-Fraser has applied for parole.

As of Saturday, the 68-year-old has completed her minimum jail term of 13 years for the 2009 murder of her partner Bob Chappell.

If her bid at an upcoming Parole Board of Tasmania hearing is successful, Neill-Fraser could be a free woman within months.

The turn of events has been welcomed by her supporters, who had believed she wouldn’t leave the Mary Hutchinson Women’s Prison without a full exoneration.

They are also welcoming news the grandmother of four has decided to abandon her plans to go on a hunger strike on her 13th anniversary behind bars.

Andrew Wilkie, the Independent member for Clark, told a rally at Parliament Lawns on Saturday it was a “wonderful turn of events”.

“I think we can all get much comfort that she was persuaded by her family and loved ones to take parole, to not go on a hunger strike, and get out of Risdon and join us.”

He told attendees he shared their dismay at last week’s decision by the High Court not to hear Neill-Fraser’s appeal.

“What we can get some comfort from though is Sue’s very recent decision to take the option of parole. This is a big deal,” he said.

Mr Wilkie also said he would take the matter to Canberra, and “take the fight up to the new government” for the establishment of a Federal Criminal Case Review Commission.

He also said he’d keep pushing at a state level for the conviction to be quashed, and for the establishment of an independent commission of inquiry.

Former Premier and Attorney-General Lara Giddings said a witness in the case – Meaghan Vass – had “tried to tell the truth on more than one occasion” that she was on board the couple’s yacht the night Mr Chappell died.

But she said it would take an inquiry and possible additional forensic testing and expert evidence – as in the Lindy Chamberlain case – “to get the truth”.

“Let’s hope the Parole Board sees fit to let Sue out and she will at least be able to start to rebuild her life, while we help to clear her name,” she said.

“We have to, because if we do not stop and learn from the case, it is only a matter of when the next innocent person is found guilty of crime they did not commit.”

Rosie Crumpton-Crook, president of the Sue Neill-Fraser Support Group, said even if her parole bid was successful, her supporters would “never stop rallying and fighting” to clear her name.

“Whether she’s in prison or out of prison, we will not stop until there is an independent commission of inquiry.”

If Neill-Fraser is not successful in her parole bid, she could potentially serve up to a maximum of 23 years in prison.

It is not clear whether a date for her parole hearing has yet been set.

JC
JC
August 21, 2022 1:52 pm

Just keep this very important point in mind, Milton.

Abbott did NOT close down the car sector. All he said was that the government was no longer going to subsidise the makers. Virtually next day they all said they were hightailing it outta here when the taxpayer funded rort stopped.

You could always beg to return to produce cars without subsidies.

You could even start up a car manufacturing business on your own.

Go ahead.

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2022 2:06 pm

Barbara Tuchman’s “The Guns Of August” has a very good account of that episode – No, von Moltke didn’t know of the plans.

Yes, that’s probably the source of my recollection.

Oh come on
Oh come on
August 21, 2022 2:18 pm

Abbott did a good job as Leader of the Opposition.

True. Pity he sucked when it counted.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2022 2:21 pm

Lady complaining about appalling tenants upthread should have taken out landlord’s insurance.

  1. Once again the Oz, multi-layered, justice system at work .. it’s not what you do but who you know that…

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