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OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 20, 2022 2:17 pm

CDC Recommends Wearing Masks around your Bottom to Avoid Monkeypox, Ignoring an Important Factor

Just in case you needed yet another reason not to take the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) seriously, this story should suffice. The agency released a study on Friday recommending that people wear face masks, among other measures, to avoid catching monkeypox.

The problem? The precautions the CDC suggested do not line up with what the data shows about the spread of the illness.

This week’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) contained research on the spread of the monkeypox virus through contaminated surfaces. The study centered on two patients who lived together and had contracted the virus.

“To assess the presence and degree of surface contamination of household objects contacted by monkeypox patients, [Utah Department of Health and Human Services (UDHHS)] swabbed objects in the home of the patients,” the report explained. “The patients identified high-contact objects and surfaces for sampling; the patients also described cleaning and disinfection activities performed within the home during their illness and locations within the home where they spent substantial amounts of time while ill.”

The study examined 30 different samples from the home and found that 21 of the surfaces showed positive real-time polymerase chain reaction (PCR) results. However, none showed the presence of a live virus.

Still, this did not prevent the CDC from trying to convince us to mask up and take other steps because monkeypox could be spread through surfaces. The researchers wrote:

“Monkeypox virus primarily spreads through close, personal, often skin-to-skin contact with the rash, scabs, lesions, body fluids, or respiratory secretions of a person with monkeypox; transmission via contaminated objects or surfaces (i.e., fomites) is also possible. Persons living in or visiting the home of someone with monkeypox should follow appropriate precautions against indirect exposure and transmission by wearing a well-fitting mask, avoiding touching possibly contaminated surfaces, maintaining appropriate hand hygiene, avoiding sharing eating utensils, clothing, bedding, or towels, and following home disinfection recommendations.”

However, other studies have clearly shown that those who become infected with the virus are predominantly men who have sexual relations with other men. In fact, the New England Journal of Medicine published a study showing that 98 percent of those infected were gay or bisexual men. Only two percent of cases did not fit into this category.

These findings suggest that masking only protects the wrong part of the body.

Perhaps people should be focusing their attention a bit lower?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 20, 2022 2:18 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2022 2:22 pm

Gez at 12:19

Dispatching done with a Brno .17HMR at distance and Brno .22 with subsonic pills for stealth at close range.

I assume you are wearing catsuit cammo?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 2:29 pm

ZK2A I prefer the BlackAdder version.

Quite so, but it was a German delegation that crossed the lines, in October 1918, under a white flag, seeking an Armistice….

Arky
August 20, 2022 2:31 pm

Brilliant.
His experience of going to a Catholic Church service for the first time, specially good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8EFYpu96og

Frank
Frank
August 20, 2022 2:32 pm

catsuit cammo

Furries like to dress up as mice quite often.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 2:35 pm

ZK2A:

The Torres Strait communities are demanding a treaty, and “sovereignty.” Take note Australia, this is what you can expect from a “Voice.”

I’m tempted to give them Sovereignty.
Let them make a deal with China, let the Chinese strip their fishing grounds bare and let them establish an airfield on Thursday Island.
Then watch them regret it as the Chinese rename it Haiku South and flood the islands with settlers (*cough* administrative family supporters *cough*)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 2:37 pm

I’m tempted to give them Sovereignty.

As am I. Let there be a sovereign Aboriginal Nation, raising its own revenue from taxes and funding its own welfare, medical, police and defence……

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 2:38 pm

Wodger:

It’s a path to more resentment and division.

Well, yes.
That’s its intent.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 20, 2022 2:40 pm

Ah, yes, Rabz. Brain freeze. Or boil. Tina Norton.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 20, 2022 2:44 pm

HITHER AND YON
Five Quick Things: Garland Drowns in a Swamp of His Own Making

Plus: Cheney chucked, Carville cooked, and Stelter sacked.

Onee of the things I keep saying, and people insist on disagreeing with me in spite of all the obvious evidence lying around, is that today’s Democrat Party is an organization by and for people incapable of doing a proper job at honest work.

That this is true can hardly be successfully challenged on the facts. These people destroy everything they touch, without exception.

For example, there is this man Merrick Garland and the cabal of Berias he’s surrounded himself with at the Justice Department.

1. Our new Franz Kafka–modeled Merrick Garland Justice Department fails to satisfy

The aftermath of the Mar-a-Lago raid reveals grotesque, thuggish incompetence on a scale heretofore unseen. Perhaps ever.

We on the right have been remarking, here at The American Spectator and elsewhere, about the banana-republic tinge to the FBI raiding the home of a former president over boxes of paper haggled over for two months between Donald Trump’s lawyers and the bureaucrats of the National Archives.

But here’s the key distinction: in Third World thugocracies, the secret police are brutally efficient. They’re generally the only wing of the government capable of making complete sentences and tying their own shoes.

But this?

2. Liz Cheney redux
3. James Carville rages against the dying of his own light
4. Potato, baked, at CNN

areff
areff
August 20, 2022 2:50 pm

Until rich sceptics like Gina buy major media outlets and refocus the narrative Plimer is irrelevant.

One of life’s biggest recent disappointments came when Gina abandoned her quest to buy Fairfax. It would have been crack-of-the-sofa small change for her. Stock bottomed out at 48 cents.

Instead, the Age is now edited by Margo Kingston’s sister, the newsroom is full of rainbow flags, hijabs, bicycle helmets, vegan lunches, tattooed kiddies and preachy 22-year-olds who, going by this morning’s perusal, couldn’t spell ‘Zorko’ until someone with better than Grade 4 literacy clocked on.

How has Andrews managed to get away with crapping in Victoria’s lap? Watch his next presser and observe the lame questioning and insipid follow-ups. Both Melbourne comics are guilty, but The Age more so by vast degrees.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 20, 2022 2:50 pm

Bank Australia gone full woke…………

A major Australian bank has announced it will stop offering loans for new petrol and diesel cars as part of an aggressive approach to combat climate change.

Bank Australia says it will cease funding for new fossil fuel vehicles from 2025 onwards, though will continue to offer customers finance for second-hand petrol and diesel cars.

Bank Australia origins….

Bank Australia is an Australian customer-owned bank based in Collingwood, Victoria. The organisation can trace its origins back to 1957, when the CSIRO Co-operative Credit Society was formed.

Say no more. Except fuck off hippies.

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 2:53 pm

JC says:
August 20, 2022 at 9:08 am
Miltonf

There are lots of people around who just don’t like chaos and fighting all the time and we have to admit Trunp does that. Some people on the Right are pretty genuine about this. It’s okay. In any event Trump has some of the highest recorded support from the right.

That’s correct.

But these people have to realise something…
… their way does not work.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 20, 2022 2:55 pm

Ukraine war veterans on how Kiev plundered US aid, wasted soldiers, endangered civilians, and lost the war

“The weapons are stolen, the humanitarian aid is stolen, and we have no idea where the billions sent to this country have gone,” a Ukrainian complained to The Grayzone.

Ivan flipped the camera toward his face. “Well, you fucking motherfucker members of parliament, I hope you fuck each other. Devils. I wish you were in our place,” he said.

Last month, Ukraine’s parliamentarians voted to give themselves a 70% salary increase. Filings indicate the raise was enabled and encouraged by the billions of dollars and euros of aid that have poured in from the US and Europe.

“We, the Ukrainian soldiers, have nothing,” said Ivan. “The things the soldiers have been given to use in the war came directly from volunteers. The aid that goes to our government will never reach us.”

– “Everyone is lying”: US doctor describes shocking corruption
– “I don’t think they want us to win”: Ukrainians scoff at Western aid
– Foreign journalists cover up grim reality with triumphalist delusion
– Ukrainian soldiers and volunteers confirm Ukraine’s Armed Forces endanger civilians

areff
areff
August 20, 2022 2:56 pm

While mention of The Age has my ire quotient surging, consider what the editrix did when the wallopers gave one of her snappers an up close and personal pepper-gas spritzing during the big freedom rally: Nothing.

Oh, she did write a please explain letter. Whooppee-do!

You an editor, your staffer is assaulted by the forces of law and order running wild with Spring Street’s blessing, there’s only one course of action: J’accuse all over the front page.

But The Age is so morally and ethically compromised it ignores even its own people’s pain because that might reflect badly on the DanFilth.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
August 20, 2022 3:02 pm

ca

lli says:
August 20, 2022 at 2:06 pm

Check this out. Sublime.

Truly Amazing

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 20, 2022 3:04 pm

From JC’s link.
Look how happy to the fat guy in the grey t-shirt is being thrown sweeties.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 20, 2022 3:05 pm

areffsays:
August 20, 2022 at 2:50 pm

How has Andrews managed to get away with crapping in Victoria’s lap? Watch his next presser and observe the lame questioning and insipid follow-ups. Both Melbourne comics are guilty, but The Age more so by vast degrees.

To be fair, the Hun does from time to time mention some of Maximum Leader’s japes and capers like red shirts and slug-gate.

cohenite
August 20, 2022 3:13 pm

Trump is not and has never been chaotic. I worked with a law firm in Australia when Trump came out in the 1990s. A more focused and deliberate person/businessman I have not met and I have met thousands. I’ll tell you why people like Harris, whose work on Islam was brilliant, hate Trump: he makes fun of them and reveals their inadequacies and their egos can’t take it. People like Harris, and this is the stigmata of the left, truly believe they are superior, intellectually, morally, to other people. People like Trump, well in fact only Trump of all leaders, although DeSantis is growing, ridicule people like Harris and more importantly the self appointed elitists of the swamp. Of course with the swamp hypocrites who are anything but superior, he also reveals their corruption. And when I say their corruption I also include the institutions which surround and support the swamp. These institutions are now attacking Trump, not for the benefit of the people or the democracy but to protect their unjustified privileged positions.

This is not rocket science and Harris is not a fool. The reason he does not see his grotesque wrongness is as I say because he is viewing this through his ego and assumed superiority. To concede to Trump is to admit you are not superior and in fact often inferior. Harris can’t do this. He is a child; a spoilt child; and this is a common descriptive quality of the left. He would rather ruin his society and its institutions then admit he is wrong.

Zipster
Zipster
August 20, 2022 3:13 pm

Long COVID: SARS-COV-2 Persists in Almost All Tissues of The Body (NIH Preprint Study)
Drbeen Medical Lectures
Long COVID: SARS-COV-2 Persists in Almost All Tissues of The Body (NIH Preprint Study)

In this study from NIH, the authors demonstrate the presence of replication competent virus genome in a vast array of human organs and cells even after asymptomatic infection.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 3:16 pm

Flyingduk:

and systemic promotion of unhealthy food via the ‘food pyramid’ has left the majority of the population ‘fat, dumb, sick and lazy’.

Knuckle Dragger
August 15, 2022 at 12:17 pm
Winston Smithsays:
August 15, 2022 at 11:42 am

JC/Monty:
If every hefty American got treated at these drugs’ current prices, the annual market for incretins would be a trillion dollars.
If every hefty American – or Australian, for that matter – actually got off their arse and stopped blaming CoRporAtions, McDonalds, teachers, the internet and infomercials for being morbidly obese disease magnets, they wouldn’t need fake weight loss pills.
If someone can explain to me why these things will magically make you ‘healthy’, and in the face of years if not decades of deliberate sloth it would be greatly appreciated.
The drugs will be widely used if studies can show they prevent diabetes, heart disease, and other costly ills.

Put. Down. The. Fork.

The government caused this weight gain crisis with the Food Pyramid and the constant vilification of the meat/eggs/dairy diet.

Bullshit they did. I will flay gummint’s skin and hang it from flagpoles for many things. Many, many things, but not this.
Even if people believed that ‘government caused this weight gain crisis with the Food Pyramid’, why the necessity to paint themselves as victims?
‘Oh, it’s the government’s fault I am a cellulite-riddled subcutaneous fat museum. Woe is me. What’s that? Go outside? Walk around for a bit? Decide, of my own free will not to have that sixth cheeseburger? Preposterous – there’s no way I can write letters to the editor blaming other people for my own shit level of personal responsibility if I did that.’
The ultimate cop-out, if all else fails, is of course ‘Oh, all my family are heavy’, or the truncated version: ‘But muh genes.’ Anyone running that line should be looking in the mirror, each and every day, not liking what they see and saying to themselves: ‘This is my fault.’
Don’t blame the market for responding to weak people’s shit demands.

Sorry, Flyingduk. I am reliably informed and corrected on my part about the Food Pyramid.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 20, 2022 3:17 pm

Big_Nambas says: August 20, 2022 at 9:24 am

Meme;
https://substack.com/redirect/dbd0f541-763c-41be-b445-b1e803f2ef08?r=ho9bj
[Clown saying “On my way to get tested for the same illness I’m vaccinated against.” ]

Hey! If I get the celebrity illness I want to know about it. After all the buildup and fanfare I can’t let a headache and a few sniffles go by without a RAT or two. I’d like to know when I’ve obtained natural immunity.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 3:26 pm

Oh yea, Cronkite. He tried to break up parts of the administrative state by being a pussy. Trump was voted in exactly to break dishes.

Also, man up and apologize for your stupidity yesterday.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 3:27 pm

ZK2A:

Russia displays apparently destroyed & captured Australian Bushmaster as war trophy

Well, it doesn’t look as flash as it could.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 20, 2022 3:29 pm

Check this out. Sublime.

It’s the wallpaper on my phone, Calli.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 3:33 pm

As for Harris…
Harris’ comments suggest he believes most of the bullshit that’s posted in the fakenews and as a result he’s suffering cognitive dissonance. Perversely therefore, he’s consistent to his beliefs. If you’re gullible and accept the tripe in the MSM, then Harris’ comments are entirely justified and consistent. He believes Trump is the devil.

cohenite
August 20, 2022 3:36 pm

Also, man up and apologize for your stupidity yesterday.

You’ll have to be more specific.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 20, 2022 3:37 pm

A 44-year-old man has become the first person convicted of illegal climbing Uluru.

Simon Day, from Victoria, was on Thursday found guilty in Alice Springs Local Court on two charges – walking or riding on a Commonwealth reserve and entering a restricted or prohibited area.

He was fined $2,500 for scaling the sacred rock, which was outlawed in 2019.

“The director of National Parks takes the protection of sacred sites very seriously,” a spokesperson from Parks Australia, which manages the national park alongside the Anangu traditional owners, said, according to ABC News.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 3:40 pm

the sacred rock

It is not a “sacred” rock. It’s a rock. A rock that punters are not permitted to climb.

It amuses me that journos who are more than happy to dismiss churches as “just buildings” think rocks are holy.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 3:47 pm

This is where things have got to in the US. Ask leftwingers if they believe any of the Trump hoaxes peddled by the MSN along with evil kunts like Adam Schiff. Add the latest hoax to the other 12 and you end up with 13 hoaxes gulped down by nearly all leftwingers. Of course they think Trump is the devil and Republicans pure evil. That’s where Harris is.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 3:48 pm

You’ll have to be more specific.

No I don’t because you’re lying.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Winston Smith says: August 20, 2022 at 3:27 pm

ZK2A:
Russia displays apparently destroyed & captured Australian Bushmaster as war trophy

Well, it doesn’t look as flash as it could.

The tyres must be super-vulcanized to the nth degree, as they seem to have survived the fire.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 3:57 pm

The tyres must be super-vulcanized to the nth degree, as they seem to have survived the fire.

Inquiring minds were wondering about that aspect, indeed.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 20, 2022 4:01 pm

Walt Secord to leave politics over “bullying.
“Bullying” bad, “cancelling” is ok though.

cohenite
August 20, 2022 4:05 pm

No I don’t because you’re lying.

You’ll have to be more specific.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 4:09 pm

Berkeley co-op bans WHITE PEOPLE from common areas to ‘avoid white violence and presence’ and all students trying to sign in are asked to declare their race

The accommodation houses University of California, Berkeley students and has rules that specifically ban ‘white people’ from common spaces in the house
The Person of Color Theme House says many of it’s members moved to the house to avoid ‘white violence’
It also calls for members to avoid bringing ‘parents/family members that express bigotry’
Several people, including POC, have complained of a ferocious culture in the house that seeks to exclude and belittle
The accommodation, which is located close to Berkeley’s campus, is a five-story, 30-room home that can house up to 56 students
Have you lived in a Berkeley Student Cooperative co-op house or know someone who has? Let us know at [email protected]

Come home, Hendrick Verwoerd, all is forgiven…..

Vicki
Vicki
August 20, 2022 4:09 pm

I hope everyone read the excellent article by Ramesh Thakur on the failure of Australia’s vaccination program, in the Inquirer section of The Australian today. The is the best salvo so far into the efficacy of the “vaccines,”& the terrible cost in terms of the attacks on individual liberty and the long term consequence of loss of trust in our institutions.

If not – I can post it, although it is a bit of a mess from my copy off the net.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 4:10 pm

Areff:

One of life’s biggest recent disappointments came when Gina abandoned her quest to buy Fairfax. It would have been crack-of-the-sofa small change for her. Stock bottomed out at 48 cents.

I’m a bit disappointed too. Surely Gina realises it’s not just our end of the boat that’s sinking.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 4:13 pm

Bank Australia has been fully woke for years.
I’m surprised they were ever offering car loans.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 4:22 pm

Blaming the Food Pyramid for obesity is like blaming the Reserve Bank for your home loan woes.
Getting an actual gallon* of Coke with your bucket of fried chicken and biscuits isn’t anywhere on the ‘Food Pyramid’.
* a KFC deal on offer somewhere in the Midwest USA circa 2011

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 4:26 pm

Here’s a nice little genset – 10kVA for $7.5k

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 4:30 pm
Vicki
Vicki
August 20, 2022 4:30 pm

“Dedicated to Honorary Dr Gina Rinehart, one of the very few prominent business leaders in the world, who has called human induced climate change for what it is:nonsense.”

Like Ian Plimer, I am a fan of Gina’s. She’s a gutsy lady and a proud Australian. Again, I risk ridicule, I suppose – but I really liked her decision to erect shades over her cattle yards in the unforgiving heat of the outback. Cattle cope with the conditions when they seek out the meagre shade of desert oak etc – but standing for hours in unshaded yards is pretty grim.

I note that she seems to be selling many of the big aggregated holdings that she acquired in recent years. Anyone have more info?

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 4:35 pm

Rosie:

Blaming the Food Pyramid for obesity is like blaming the Reserve Bank for your home loan woes.

So health advice from a trusted institution 30 years ago that was promulgated by damn near every Health and Education facility, even our doctors waiting rooms were full of this ‘advice’, the TV was saturated with it.
I’m not blaming the Food Pyramid for obesity – I’m blaming the Food Pyramid advice from government for blinding people to the effects of the diet.
It’s a crucial difference.
A bit like the advice we got from government 24/7 about the Vaccine.

Tom
Tom
August 20, 2022 4:35 pm

The staff at Bank Australia are all fully committed, Greens-voting political activists, endlessly lecturing their customers about climate change, global warmening and ethical investing.

Needless to say, they’re also shit at banking and their “customer service” is rubbish.

It used to be the Media Credit Union and most of the lunatic woke staff of The Age have accounts there.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 4:38 pm

The Food Pyramid is Safe and Effective.

Barry
Barry
August 20, 2022 4:38 pm

I think that this may be the solution to the Abortion fracas.

Apparently, a team of Israeli entrepreneurs is planning to grow human embryos in artificial wombs. After they grow, organs could be harvested from such infants. To avoid ethical dilemmas, human embryos will be grown without heads. No kidding. The article does not explain how growing human embryos without heads would “avoid ethical dilemmas”, leaving the reader needing to figure it out on their own.

Rabid abortionists could use IVF to have an embryo implanted in them that has been genetically engineered to not have a head. Then they could abort it right up to birth, and because it has no head, Catholics and other pro-lifers would have no standing.

Discuss.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2022 4:38 pm

nitrous oxide, “laughing gas”, because environmental activists are concerned about its carbon footprint.

This weird fetish about oxides of nitrogen has magically appeared out of nowhere.
The Dutch government is currently gaoling farmers because of it. So why now?
You could almost think there’s a conspiracy going on with centrally issued orders.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 4:39 pm

Here…have another bowl of Sugar Frosties!

Consider it a Booster.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 4:39 pm

Tom

I got you a MAGA hat. Make use of it and go in the branch to open an account.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 4:40 pm

I note that she seems to be selling many of the big aggregated holdings that she acquired in recent years. Anyone have more info?

Read somewhere she had sold off four million hectares, all to Australian buyers.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 4:45 pm

Calli:

The Food Pyramid is Safe and Effective.

The decision to push the food pyramid onto the Wests citizenry in their choice of diets has been a health disaster. Even governments are saying this. But they now can’t back away from it because its what they’ve been demanding thirty years.
Another disaster will be the “Eat the Bugs” movement.
Humans can’t digest the chitin – I understand we don’t have the enzymes capable of breaking them down.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 4:47 pm

You could almost think there’s a conspiracy going on with centrally issued orders.

More likely an intellectual contagion that the weak of mind are particulary prone to.

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
August 20, 2022 4:49 pm

An article today in a major NZ paper.
Young adults dying of the “Suddenly”, but no idea why.
Hmmm…
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/fit-and-healthy-kiwis-dying-unexpectedly-mysterious-adult-condition

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 4:50 pm

I think I saw a food Pyramid diagram at school and maybe in a doctor’s waiting room once or twice, the notion that it’s been prominent or is predominantly responsible for obesity is a massive stretch.
People ate more calories but weighed less in the 1970s.
People do less exercise these days, mainly because there has been a massive shift from manual labour.
supersizers go 70s

miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2022 4:51 pm

Yes Gina is a great lady and a worthy successor to her father. Good on her too for erect shades over her cattle yards.

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 4:52 pm

Blaming the Food Pyramid for obesity is like blaming the Reserve Bank for your home loan woes.

Fuck you’re dumb rosie. The food pyramid has been promoted in schools since the 1970’s at least, and it’s completely fucking wrong. People followed it because they wanted to be healthy, following “the science”, and they ended up fat as fuck.

No one I know who is in decent shape eats anything like the food pyramid suggests.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 4:54 pm

Tom

It used to be the Media Credit Union and most of the lunatic woke staff of The Age have accounts there.

Being rabid lefties (BIRM), it might take them a while, but eventually they are going to realise that their deposits are not doing well.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 4:56 pm

I’m such a food nazi. Watching all those hyped up kiddies at the animal park this morning eating all manner of junk food and buzzing around like blowies in a bottle. Sniff.

The two grandies, carefully fed on toast and peanut butter/vegemite with water in their popup bottles, were no different. Not even in scream pitch.

Tonight will be a reeling delirium of fatigue. For us, not the children. Their healthy, righteous diet will keep them going well into the evening. Pity help us if they had gone anywhere near sugar.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 4:56 pm

Dredd

I just read the piece. The piece is not saying what you believe.. ie Covid vaccince deaths. It’s talking about the reasons why otherwise healthy young adults drop dead. There’s no reference in the piece suggesting there’s been an increase in these types of death over the past couple of years since vax has been around. It would be really good if people understood what they were reading.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 4:56 pm

If you visit the US you might notice that fast food is pretty cheap, the servings sizes are big, while fresh fruit and vegetables are surprisingly expensive.
I noticed this particularly in North Carolina when I went to the supermarket with my friends.
an article on the shift in food habits in the US

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 4:59 pm

People ate more calories but weighed less in the 1970s.
People do less exercise these days, mainly because there has been a massive shift from manual labour.

I’m not so sure about the calories.

From what I remember, meals were smaller in the 1970s and, of course, there were far fewer fast food oulets.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 5:04 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 5:04 pm

Yes Gina is a great lady and a worthy successor to her father

“Lang” Hancock was one of the leading lights of the West Australian secession movement. He maintained half a dozen F-111 aircraft, with tactical nuclear weapons, would ensure West Australian independence…

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 5:05 pm

Put. Down. The. Fork.
The government caused this weight gain crisis with the Food Pyramid and the constant vilification of the meat/eggs/dairy diet.
Bullshit they did.

Absolutely fucking wrong. Eating per the food pyramid creates hunger, mainly via the intake of excessive carbohydrates, which is only satiated by the intake of carbohydrates. Vicious cycle established.

If someone “wakes up” and realises what the problem is, and they eliminate carbohydrates, they will go through 2-3 weeks of withdrawal symptoms that are nearly as bad as going cold turkey from any drug you are addicted to.

As with any addiction, a lot of people crash out of the cold turkey and return to the addiction worse than ever. Ask any young lard arse how many diets they have been on.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 5:07 pm

From what I remember, meals were smaller in the 1970s and, of course, there were far fewer fast food oulets.

Work was more physically active in the 70s. Have a look at a road work gang these days. If you’re a little older, think back and compare the work they’re doing these days in contrast to the old days. There used to be road gangs with some of the guys softening up the ground with pics while the rest of the gang was waiting around to shovel it out. Now? Now, it’s machines doing every bit of the work. And they have (generally) overweight sheilas in the modern day road gang.

Work is much less physically active, unless there’s an in-house gym at the workplace 🙂

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 5:07 pm

Roger.
That was the claim regarding British diets by Giles Coren on Supersizers.
I think possibly the UK has been less influenced by the drive everywhere fast food extravaganza than the US.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 5:11 pm

Most people can’t afford to eat only meat, and I had no idea vegetables were bad for you.

Ed Case was a meatatarian, sounds like another fad.
Asians seem to eat lots of rice and vegetables with some fish and meat while remaining slim, must be the fault of the food pyramid.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 5:13 pm

Work is much less physically active, unless there’s an in-house gym at the workplace.

Sure, but not everyone worked on a road gang in the ’70s.

I’d wager meal portions were smaller.

I remember a roast chicken feeding 6 people. You’d get slices of breast or, if lucky, a leg.

Someone even got the parson’s nose!

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 5:16 pm

My daughter was watching a US food show about hot fried chicken restaurants in Nashville yesterday.
The individual servings were half a chicken plus sides.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 5:17 pm

Here’s a question:

How would food consumption and obesity levels differ today both in the type and quantity if the food pyramid never existed?

I think it would be close to zero.

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 5:17 pm

Asians seem to eat lots of rice and vegetables with some fish and meat while remaining slim, must be the fault of the food pyramid.

They don’t eat highly processed carbohydrates like you find in bread and pasta. Which the Health Mongs show at the bottom of the pyramid. Nor do they ingest much sugar.

Plenty of Asian students also suffer excessive weight gain when they move to Australia or the USA. My wife got so fat her own father didn’t recognise her.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 20, 2022 5:18 pm

Blaming the Food Pyramid for obesity is like blaming the Reserve Bank for your home loan woes.

I’ll play the choice card on this one.
If you don’t like the Food Pyramid’s advice, you can get dietary advice elsewhere.
If your bank’s loan interest rates are too high because of the minimum set by the RBA, which other bank will you go to that doesn’t have their minimum set by the RBA prime lending rate?
I suppose that isn’t necessarily a rhetorical question, but the RBA would have to be the main source of loaned funds, surely.
I agree you can’t blame the food pyramid as a proximal cause of obesity, but that was not a great way to argue it.

JC
JC
August 20, 2022 5:20 pm

rosie says:
August 20, 2022 at 5:16 pm

My daughter was watching a US food show about hot fried chicken restaurants in Nashville yesterday.
The individual servings were half a chicken plus sides.

It’s one of the many things that endeared me to the US. They’re food servings and unlike here, if you order a glass of wine with a meal it would he 75% filled instead of a 1/3 here.

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 5:25 pm

How would food consumption and obesity levels differ today both in the type and quantity if the food pyramid never existed?

It would mainly on whether or not this incorrect information was supplanted with accurate information.

If the food pyramid never existed, then we’d probably be in only slightly better shape.

If the food pyramid was replaced with the correct information, and was promoted in the same way. We’d be in much better shape.

Most people don’t want to be as fat as fuck like munty, they just don’t understand what they need to change. They think it’s mainly about portion control, and it isn’t.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 5:28 pm

When the Food Pyramid was first promoted and endorsed, people trusted the government to give them good advice.

That has changed. If the government told me to eat most of my calories as simple carbs now, I’d ignore them. As for convenience foods, forget it. The most “convenient” food we’ll have on our plates tonight is a butcher’s shop pork sausage. And some low sugar tomato sauce because I’m too lazy to make it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 5:29 pm

Roger

From what I remember, meals were smaller in the 1970s and, of course, there were far fewer fast food oulets.

Hamburgers had beetroot, onion and lettuce with the meat pattie, decadence was a Chiko Roll, fried, but the contents largely vegetable, with a smidgen of meat. Chips were still chips, but probably fried in animal fat. Fish deep fried in batter, probably also in animal fat.

sfw
sfw
August 20, 2022 5:31 pm

Eldest son has a farm near Tooborac on the Pucka side, went there today and bought lunch for the family at Seymour KFC, exactly what you would expect. Whilst waiting on order I saw a newspaper on the counter, it was a three week old “Australian’, I took it with me, my wife said you can’t take that. I said “Tell me who here will read it, or read anything?”

I’ve no problem with the trees along the pucka road or anywhere else. If you drive to conditions it shouldn’t be a problem. The trouble is all the blonks who can’t, evolution in action. The other week went to Melb, I was amazed at the number of damaged wire fences that have only been installed in the last couple of years. It seems there’s a lot of people incapable of driving in a relatively straight line. Who cares let them pay for their incompetence.

Got back from Tooborac at 5pm, went to the local supermarket for a couple of things. Green string beans, $40 kg, everything else except lettuce at sky high prices as well, even winter vegies. Staff told it’s because of the floods in NSW and QLD, sort of reasonable but why are the winter crops from Vic expensive as well.

Frank
Frank
August 20, 2022 5:32 pm

Another disaster will be the “Eat the Bugs” movement.

The tragedy of eating bugs will be the end of pets. Dogs and cats are out of the question if you can’t get access to meat. If they keep selling pet meat the proles will start eating it and the HR department won’t be having that.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 5:32 pm

Interesting variant of Icehouse “No Promises.

Frank
Frank
August 20, 2022 5:36 pm

meals were smaller in the 1970s

Plates and bowls were certainly smaller back then. They introduced those white plates in the nineties to serve as a canvas for the celebrity chefs to create their masterpieces. White plates the size of a toilet seat which have the effect of making normal sized portions look tiny.

calli
calli
August 20, 2022 5:37 pm

It’s funny in an incongruous kind of way. Up until the last year, insects were a contaminant in food. Instant disposal.

Soon we’ll have insects contaminated by food. Eat up!

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 5:39 pm

Barry:
Rabid abortionists could use IVF

Beginning about twenty years ago, there was a push to change legislation to allow human embryonic stem cell and human cloning research into spinal injury – Christopher Reeve, the actor, was a major voice for this change after he became a quadriplegic in 1995.

One morning on the local ABC radio an interview was conducted with a gentleman who suffered from paraplegia and who locally was at the forefront of seeking legislative changes to allow for this research in Australia.

I called into the station wanting the reporter to ask this bloke where he thought the ongoing supply of eggs would come from and pointed out to the girl who took my call that should any young women be encouraged to donate their eggs significant amounts of hormones would be required to stimulate their production, which could render the subject very sick and ultimately could make these young women infertile.

Needless to say the question was not asked, so I called the station again when the interview had finished and was informed by the same girl that they couldn’t ask this poor bloke such a question. ABC censorship to the fore.

Iirc, the parliament did change the law to allow aspects of this research but some time afterwards – I’m not sure how long – in another interview a researcher acknowledged that researchers had not considered that young women would not come forward to assist them in their work. Well, duh!

This lack of morality, mainly in medical research but more recently, and growing before our eyes, in the assertions of the “needs” of the wider community, is wholly repugnant and leaves me cold as to where it will end.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 5:40 pm

The tragedy of eating bugs will be the end of pets. Dogs and cats are out of the question if you can’t get access to meat.

Interesting point.

Robotic substitutes?

sfw
sfw
August 20, 2022 5:41 pm

Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s (born 56), any sort of takeaway food was almost unknown for us. We might have got fish and chips once a month if lucky, I can remember getting Chinese once, we had to take our kitchen pot to put the food in, no plastic containers then. Most nights meat and three veg, everything cooked in butter or dripping. School sandwiches wrapped in waxed paper.

A roast on Sunday if lucky, usually lamb or beef, chicken was a special treat then. I can’t remember eating spaghetti till the early 70’s when the concept of ‘healthy eating’ began to be promoted. Mum suddenly started making pasta dishes and cooking fat free a lot. No one in my family was fat, grandparents, parents, kids and almost no one I knew was fat. The only fat kids at school, there was usually one in every class were usually Italians, pasta?

No one in my family worked particularly hard physically, dad was copper, mum at home and the same for nearly all my mates and relatives re easy work.

Nope it’s the food pyramid I reckon and now we eat a lot more.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 20, 2022 5:42 pm

BJ, you’re pushing it a bit with the Chiko Roll. Nobody knows what’s in a Chiko Roll. Lift your game please.

rosie
rosie
August 20, 2022 5:44 pm

White bread, pasta and rice are at the top of the US food Pyramid I linked, only whole grains were at the bottom.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 5:45 pm

Calli:

And some low sugar tomato sauce because I’m too lazy to make it.

My recipe for tomato sauce is for when the bottle is half empty:
Add portions of relish/Worcestershire sauce/fish sauce/Tabasco sauce to 3/4 full, top up with malt vinegar. (Essentially whatever’s available.)
Shake the shit out of it.
Add to food to taste.
Unique.
Nom nom nom.
My current bottle has a usebydate of 2018 and is probably like the Hungarian custom of giving the new marrieds a spoonful of what’s in the family cauldron to maintain the connection with family lineage. Apparently some of those cooking pots have been in continuous use for 300 odd years.
I read that in a book somewhere.

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 5:46 pm

Confessions of a former lard arse:

In my teens I could eat whatever I liked, never got fat. I was aware of the food pyramid and we had received classes on it through primary and high school. As I moved into my 20’s and got an office job, I slowly accumulated weight, just a bit each year. By late 20’s I was well overweight but hid it reasonably well due to my height. I didn’t want to be overweight but I had no idea how to fix the problem.

Importantly, my professionally trained gym instructor and health guru girlfriend didn’t have much of an idea either. In fact her suggestions around diet and exercise were completely wrong. She had been trained with the wrong information.

Doing my own research and thinking about the problem myself I decided that I needed to eradicate all carbohydrates and sugar. The compromise was that I could eat as much meat and fruit and vegetables as I liked.

Coming off carbohydrates and sugar was very unpleasant. But within two weeks I was over the worst of it and feeling much better. I did minimal amounts of exercise for this whole period.

The end result was that I lost about 30kg in 4 months with weight loss slowly tapering away after that. All up loss was almost 40kg.

Because of the food pyramid and its adoption through the health profession, there are very few people who can genuinely help people lose weight and get fit in a manner that’s permanent.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 5:47 pm

It’s funny in an incongruous kind of way. Up until the last year, insects were a contaminant in food. Instant disposal.

Soon we’ll have insects contaminated by food. Eat up!

For argument’s sake…

I can’t see insect protein taking off for obvious reasons.

Cultured meat is another matter.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 5:47 pm

Taking off…heh!

rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 5:48 pm

White bread, pasta and rice are at the top of the US food Pyramid I linked, only whole grains were at the bottom.

They have actually changed it. In the 70’s bread, pasta and rice were near the bottom.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 5:53 pm

Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s (born 56), any sort of takeaway food was almost unknown for us.

Fish and chips or Chinese were the only options I recall.

Once a month.

A hamburger was a luxury.

Otoh, we ate lamb probably three times a week!

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 20, 2022 5:55 pm

Family history stuff…..

We have two parents, four grand-parents, eight great-grandparents and sixteen great-great grandparents. We can safely assume that they were either male or female, men and women, people weren’t so confused about these things many years ago.

One of my great-great grandfathers was born at Arreton on the Isle of Wight in 1840, and died in Ashfield, N.S.W. in 1931. He was the youngest of seven children and he was was orphaned at a young age, his mother died when he was two years old and his father died two years later. Details about his early life are sketchy, I found only one record of him in the 1851 British Census as a ten year old apprenticed to a stone mason in Cowes, Isle of Wight.

He came to Australia sometime in the 1850’s with an older cousin and tried his hand at gold mining somewhere north of Bathurst, then farming near Carcoar. As neither effort brought any great rewards, he took up employment with the NSW Government Railways and remained in their employment till the end of his working life.

I wondered about his elder siblings who were also orphaned in their early life and how they all fared and where they went. I found that none of them came to Australia though some of them, or their descendants, ended up in the USA and Canada. One branch of the family however remained on the Isle of Wight and one member of that family travelled extensively as a nitrate salesman.

There were many records of his journeys to Europe, and north and south America on business trips, but there was no record of a return journey to Southampton following one journey to Buenos Aires. He reappeared in the historical records some years later accompanied by a newly acquired wife who had an improbably long Spanish name, and their young daughter who was born in Chile. I wonder how his Señorita blended into the thatched cottage village life in Bembridge, Isle of Wight.

Their daughter must have been a strikingly attractive sixteen year-old as she caught the eye and won the heart of a Canadian air-ace who was stationed on the Isle of Wight during WW I. They married in 1918 and went to live in Ottawa, he was from a wealthy family as they bought a house in the embassy district of Ottawa, his father apparently was a wealthy timber merchant. She was then around seventeen years old, he wasn’t much older, and they had the potential of a wonderful life ahead of them.

Tragedy struck just two years later, she died in Ottawa and, according to her wishes, he husband brought her remains back to Bembridge, Isle of Wight, for burial.

Tragedy struck a second time two years later, her husband, now a Major in the Canadian Air Force, died in a plane crash in British Columbia. According to his wishes, his remains were also sent to Bembridge, Isle of Wight, to be buried beside the love of his life. Should a casual visitor walk through this small village cemetery one day, he or she would probably wonder why a young lady, born in Chile and her Canadian husband, both of whom died in Canada, are buried there.

In death, not divided.

Bruce
Bruce
August 20, 2022 5:55 pm

@ RickW:

Carb “withdrawal”?

Talk to folk from Asia about RICE.

The way I see the role of rice in the diet all across vast swathes of S E Asia, one would get the impression that it was the RICE doing its Darwin thing and co-opting humans to hugely support its propagagtion..

Maybe it is the “super-grasses, like rice, wheat, corn, barley, etc. in their various strains, that are “exploiting” the humans.

“Rice-withdrawal” is a REAL thing.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 6:00 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer:

I called into the station wanting the reporter to ask this bloke where he thought the ongoing supply of eggs would come from and pointed out to the girl who took my call that should any young women be encouraged to donate their eggs significant amounts of hormones would be required to stimulate their production, which could render the subject very sick and ultimately could make these young women infertile.

I understood stem cells could be harvested from the bone marrow in the sternum. I was in Saudi, while giving blood I asked if they wanted me to donate as I was on the register in Australia for bone marrow donation. They didn’t need it but that was how we were doing it here for stem cells.
Even an older person is producing some stem cells even if it’s minuscule amount. Couldn’t they be cultured for reinfusion?
Some of the docs here may be able to give better information – it’s been several years since I was focused on immunology…

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 6:03 pm

Frank:

The tragedy of eating bugs will be the end of pets. Dogs and cats are out of the question if you can’t get access to meat.

In the bush, while we’ve got roos, we’ll have pets.
Or if Fido wants variety, we’ll take him out for a fresh roadkill. Even an Armadillo is tenderised when a road train has finished with it.

miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2022 6:04 pm

This lack of morality, mainly in medical research but more recently, and growing before our eyes, in the assertions of the “needs” of the wider community, is wholly repugnant and leaves me cold as to where it will end.

when I was at school in the late 70s I remember some creepy doctor who was using cells from aborted babies to ‘save lives’ or something.

shatterzzz
August 20, 2022 6:05 pm

Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s (born 56), any sort of takeaway food was almost unknown for us.
Fish & chips the standard “don’t feel like home cooking” Geordie meal of my 1950s/60s childhood .. still my preferred take-away ……. LOL!

Crossie
Crossie
August 20, 2022 6:08 pm

Read somewhere she had sold off four million hectares, all to Australian buyers.

Gina Rinehart may have been careful to whom she sold the holdings but the new owners could now sell to China.

Zipster
Zipster
August 20, 2022 6:09 pm
Zipster
Zipster
August 20, 2022 6:10 pm

Adams and North have uncovered an absolute scandal with one Australian bank Suncorp pushing microchipping propaganda onto its customers.

This is another attempt at pushing programming on the general population to embrace a dark totalitarian world where individual freedom is surrendered to Big Government, Big Business and Big Tech.

Adams and North fought the Morrison Government $AUD 10,000 cash transaction ban because we want to conduct our affairs without government or corporate detection. Microchipping by banks and other financial institutions is an absolute assault on our freedom and human dignity.

In the past 48 hours, a Suncorp customer by the name of Lisa sent the email from Suncorp to Adams. In this communication, Suncorp sought to ask their customers about their views about microchipping and whether this an acceptable practice.

There is no legitimate reason why any Australian bank would be pushing human microchipping. The last thing we need in Australia is either Government or the private sector monitoring and tracking what individuals do and where they go.

This is the slow creep into totalitarianism and a movement away from liberal democracy which protects individual rights.

Australians must resist all propaganda efforts at surrendering our liberty and sovereignty.

shatterzzz
August 20, 2022 6:11 pm

How would food consumption and obesity levels differ today both in the type and quantity if the food pyramid never existed?
For some un-researched reason obesity & food consumption levels never seemed to be problematic in the County Durham coal mining villages thru the ages! .. weird I know but fact .. LOL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 6:12 pm

GreyRangasays:
August 20, 2022 at 5:42 pm
BJ, you’re pushing it a bit with the Chiko Roll. Nobody knows what’s in a Chiko Roll. Lift your game please.

The shredded cabbage was easy to identify, and that seemed to be the majority of the content.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 6:14 pm

Boambee John says:
August 20, 2022 at 12:17 pm

BJ – thanks Squire. I’ve been very remiss at not getting on the Lad’s blogue.

It’s better without me there, but the collectivist imbeciles that he lets run riot there are (inadvertently) hilarious.

Envy. One of the seven.

CL can say something far more funny, pithy and insightful in virtually no words than I can muster in a paragraph.

He is this country’s most insightful commentator, with daylight second.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 20, 2022 6:18 pm

Winston Smithsays:
August 20, 2022 at 6:00 pm

George W Bush held consultations about embryo harvesting for stem cell research and then banned it in the USA. He was vilified, but some months after he vetoed a subsequent Congressional overturning of the ban, scientists announced that they could get adult cells to behave like embryo stem cells – of course the media didn’t portray it like this but the upshot was that embryo harvesting for stem cells was rendered unnecessary.
I’m not sure whether there’s been any subsequent claimed need for embryo stem cell harvesting.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 6:19 pm

Zipster

Adams and North have uncovered an absolute scandal with one Australian bank Suncorp pushing microchipping propaganda onto its customers.

This is another attempt at pushing programming on the general population to embrace a dark totalitarian world where individual freedom is surrendered to Big Government, Big Business and Big Tech.

Wouldn’t it be easier to simply say “Big Fascism”?

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 6:20 pm

The scab is off the FBI, and the pus is oozing…
FBI Agent Pleads Guilty to Destroying Evidence to Frame Pro-Trump Political Prisoner.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 6:22 pm

Rabz

It’s better without me there, but the collectivist imbeciles that he lets run riot there are (inadvertently) hilarious.

Not Trampis (Homer), Prospero (probably Steve from Brisbane), False Equivalence (may be a sock) and Passing By (also may be a sock. Dubbed by me the Four Bike Riders of the Minor Inconvenience.

Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 6:23 pm

One Honest DC Attorney– Incredible Opening Statement Made by Progressive Democrat Public Defender at J-6 Trial: “THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO COME TOGETHER – AND OBJECT THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION!!”
Although some will say Natasha Taylor-Smith was just doing her job by defending her client Kyle Fitzsimons, she is a rare exception to the rule. Many J6 public defenders have completely neglected their clients.

Frank
Frank
August 20, 2022 6:24 pm

Still don’t get how Chiko Rolls were identified with leggy woman in leather draping themselves over motorbikes. Not really an obvious connection to cabbage.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2022 6:29 pm

How about bodily autonomy and informed consent?

Federal Court Nixes Vaccine Mandate, Citing Religious Liberty

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Old bloke says: August 20, 2022 at 5:55 pm

Family history stuff…..

In one of those amazing coincidences, I was just reading on an aviation blog a post that revolved around the distant cousin in your story, some notes on his peacetime career & how he meet his end

Rabz
August 20, 2022 6:33 pm

One of life’s biggest recent disappointments came when Gina abandoned her quest to buy Fairfax. It would have been crack-of-the-sofa small change for her. Stock bottomed out at 48 cents

Indeed, areff. Some sort of course correction might have ensued.

Instead, we’re still stuck with the incessant whinging.

I’m not departing this planet until Miss Ellie is my woife, the ALPBC has been abolished*, the WEF has gone down like the Hindenburg, Nein is kaput and Hop Time™ has been righteously implemented across the globe.

Everything else is irrelevant, Cats. 🙂

*Nookular style, via that six word mantra.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 6:42 pm

It’s a Saturday Night, Cats.

For those still baffled by the concept of “what is a Woman?*”, view this. 🙂

*Such as mUttley at his most obtuse …

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 20, 2022 6:43 pm

Winston Smith says:
August 20, 2022 at 4:26 pm
Here’s a nice little genset – 10kVA for $7.5k

Little China girl. The trouble with Chinese diesel motors is parts, hard to get and they often require plenty fiddling to keep running well.
Go for a Turkish made AKSA. They’ve got Cummins diesels on board.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2022 6:46 pm

Adams and North have uncovered an absolute scandal with one Australian bank Suncorp pushing microchipping propaganda onto its customers.

Btw, Suncorp Bank was sold to ANZ on 18 July. What that means I don’t know, but the big 4 will probably have various security initiatives in the pipeline.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 6:50 pm

Gina Rinehart may have been careful to whom she sold the holdings but the new owners could now sell to China.

If Australians don’t want to buy those properties, and manage those stations, what options are there?

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 6:50 pm

The state with the highest percentage of COVID vaccine refuseniks is…

I think it was John Updike who once described Australia as “Wyoming with a sea shore.”

Of only that were still the case.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 6:55 pm

Katie Hopkins

This winter, 1 million plus ordinary Brits will decide their life is not worth living.

For those of us who aren’t into watching videos, can you provide a precis of the argument?

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2022 6:56 pm

The Old World Order Is About To Collapse – Peter Zeihan | Modern Wisdom Podcast 514

Ditto.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2022 6:56 pm

“One of life’s biggest recent disappointments came when Gina abandoned her quest to buy Fairfax. It would have been crack-of-the-sofa small change for her. Stock bottomed out at 48 cents”

I agree…but recall how she was treated by the board and staff? They were determined to make life difficult for her and they did. I recall that journalists walked off the job and staged a protest. Just like their ABC, the SMH is now fully captured by a far-left progressives, who dominate the whole company. They’d rather kill the media outlet than allow any opinion that differs from their own.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2022 7:02 pm

“Not Trampis (Homer), Prospero (probably Steve from Brisbane), False Equivalence (may be a sock) and Passing By (also may be a sock. Dubbed by me the Four Bike Riders of the Minor Inconvenience.”

I suspect Slug from Brisbane is Preposterous, False Teeth and Pissing By. Trampis’ imbecility is humorous.

Frank
Frank
August 20, 2022 7:03 pm

Suncorp pushing microchipping propaganda onto its customers.

Wonder where exactly on the body they are going to be implanting them. This is important because those are the bits that will get amputated when some scumbag decides to drain your grandmother’s account.

local oaf
August 20, 2022 7:03 pm

Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s (born 56), any sort of takeaway food was almost unknown for us.

50s and 60s for me as a kid, only take away was fish and chips or pies, pasties and sausage rolls. Nothing available after dark.

Tons of power failures back then, commies in the unions mostly. Each outage was great news for us kids as mum couldn’t cook tea.
We were sent to meet dad off the train and tell him the power was out, he took us to the fish and chip shop and then home. Yum!

Rabz
August 20, 2022 7:15 pm

Sacré bleu – a runaway bride … 😕

Rabz
August 20, 2022 7:17 pm
Winston Smith
August 20, 2022 7:31 pm

Zipster:
Australia’s banks want you MICROCHIPPED!
Scary as buggery.
Our governments are out of control and need a bloody good purging!

miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2022 7:34 pm

They’d rather kill the media outlet than allow any opinion that differs from their own.

I thought that’s what happened- surely the Aged and the Sydney Morning Vomit don’t exert much influence except amongst their cult readership.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 20, 2022 7:35 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
August 20, 2022 at 6:30 pm

In one of those amazing coincidences, I was just reading on an aviation blog a post that revolved around the distant cousin in your story, some notes on his peacetime career & how he meet his end

Thanks Salvatore, very interesting.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 7:37 pm

if only that were still the case

Fifty years was all it took. Rendering male Ozzies who were perceived (rightly or wrongly) as possessing rogue third legs into eunuchs was quite easy, apparently.

Sad.

What I hate the most about collectivism is its deliberate poisoning of entirely normal and otherwise unremarkable interactions and relationships between men and women. Flirting is a gift.

If you’re a normal Western Man you will recognise the price of lost love

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 7:39 pm

Zipstersays:
August 20, 2022 at 6:09 pm

Zip, add that to the Trusted Digital Identity legislation (though not sure whether with this new govt and parliament it’s still going through the review process to become law) and where would that leave us.

Up sh1t creek.

miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2022 7:39 pm

So ANZ, the second most loathsome of the big 4 after the NAB, took over Suncorp? So now they control GIO and AAMI too I presume. That sux.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 7:43 pm

Rabz @ 7:15pm

This is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2022 7:46 pm

Cassie

They’d rather kill the media outlet than allow any opinion that differs from their own.

Their terms are acceptable. Kill it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 7:46 pm

Old Bloke,
great story about your family.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 7:47 pm

BBS – LOL!

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 7:49 pm

Vicki @4:30

I note that she seems to be selling many of the big aggregated holdings that she acquired in recent years. Anyone have more info?

I was only today having a yarn with my agronomist/precision ag specialist cousin about this.

He said a lot of corporate mobs are off loading assets in Australia and looking for bargains in the drought affected Northern Hemisphere.
It’s the way they operate: Buy low, sell high, which of course makes sense but in the interim the properties are more often than not run down from an infrastructure point of view and only run at a barely profitable level.
The appreciation in the land value hides many sins.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 20, 2022 8:05 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
August 20, 2022 at 7:43 pm

Rabz @ 7:15pm

This is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI

My parrot, Fucknose the Little Corella, goes absolutely bananas when he hears any Billy Idol. He dances so hard his head should fall off.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 8:10 pm

Rabz:
My parrot, Fucknose the Little Corella, goes absolutely bananas when he hears any Billy Idol. He dances so hard his head should fall off

then he needs to hear this one.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=billy+idol&t=braveed&ia=web

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 8:11 pm

Sorry, BN, that one was for you too.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 20, 2022 8:24 pm

Why is a woman used as a metaphor for Muttley??

I’m confused.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 8:29 pm

As for the Persian Princess being abused for pointing out the bleeding obvious – that Foxes are cute, well hold the talkee thingee, peoples!

Basil was a trailblazer.

Foxes have been domesticated – but they became a completely different animal.

Look up the Russian experiments in domestication.

Yes, the ones here are a problem – I’ve seen them in Rookwood, FFS, but they are another one of god’s creatures.

They are more preferable on this planet than collectivists.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 8:30 pm

A hot Goil – “she’s a fox”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 20, 2022 8:31 pm

Cancel a few more events? Mask up just the gay blokes?

The number of monkeypox cases in Victoria has grown to 40, the state health authorities say, almost double the 22 cases reported at the start of the month.

Deborah Friedman, Victoria’s Deputy Chief Health Officer for Communicable Disease, said the past fortnight had seen a “significant increase” in locally acquired monkeypox infections, with the LGBTQ community at particular risk.

Most of the new infections were in predominantly in Melbourne.

“Where we’re seeing it now is within the gay, bisexual and men who have sex with men community,” Dr Friedman told ABC News.

“Just about half of our 40 cases have been acquired within Victoria rather than overseas,” she said.

“From a public health perspective it’s a reasonably sound choice to cancel some events, especially some events that are going to result in very close or intimate contact,” Dr Friedman said, amid reports that a regular nude event in inner-Melbourne had been cancelled as a precaution.

There are a total of 89 cases of monkeypox across Australia, with Victoria leading the tally followed by 39 cases in NSW, three in Queensland and WA and two in the ACT and SA.

Vaccines against the viral disease are available but supply is limited.

The virus, spread by prolonged skin-to-skin contact, causes rashes and painful lesions, fever, aches and swollen lymph nodes about 7-10 days after exposure.

Oz

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 20, 2022 8:33 pm

For those of us who aren’t into watching (Katie Hopkins) videos, can you provide a precis of the argument?

Power prices rising astronomically and people will have to choose between heating and eating.
I think het argument was ambiguous – the million people may decide that life is not worth living in the UK.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 8:33 pm

#lervislervpox

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 20, 2022 8:34 pm

het s/b her

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2022 8:43 pm
Rabz
August 20, 2022 8:47 pm

For those of us who aren’t into watching (Katie Hopkins) videos, can you provide a precis of the argument?

She posted a video about two months ago noting that plebs attempting to travel out of (and into) the UK were being deliberately put through a grinder of sorts. Cancelled flights especially.

We all need to get a bit more realistic about this.

You will exist in a pod
You will own nothing
You will eat the bugs
You will be happy
Or else

MatrixTransform
August 20, 2022 8:48 pm

add that to the Trusted Digital Identity legislation

if you want energy or food you’ll do one of two things:-

1. submit and pay for your digital identity to be brokered every time you go to Woolies
2. just take the damned chip and get scanned like the rest of us

[rolls eyes] bloody technology deniers

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 20, 2022 8:49 pm

Fifty years was all it took. Rendering male Ozzies who were perceived (rightly or wrongly) as possessing rogue third legs into eunuchs was quite easy, apparently

Too drunk on shitty KB to notice the castrator in front of their eyes.

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 8:49 pm

What is a woman?

Found one!

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
August 20, 2022 8:50 pm

You will be happy

Because they will be on pikes.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 8:55 pm

Indolentsays:
August 20, 2022 at 8:43 pm

Great to hear a bit of reality – AND – from an academic!

Rabz
August 20, 2022 8:56 pm

Bush – exquisite, especially given my disdainfulness of blondies. 😕

shatterzzz
August 20, 2022 8:59 pm

Seems like the bottom half of the “thugby” ladder are taking an early mark on their season(s) ..!
Some of the one sided “cricket” scores this weekend are a disgrace for, supposedly, A Grade, top-of-the-line clubs …. most of these blokes are on $250K a year and not worth $25K a year ……!
Watched the Eels/Bulldogs game and it wasn’t that the Eels were outstanding it was simply that the Bulldogs were pathetic ..!
V’Landys should spend a lot more time worrying about the quality of play than the state of stadiums ..
On this weekend’s performances he can schedule the GF for a Sunday morning Council playing field in the bush .. might manage a decent sized crowd .. LOL!

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 9:00 pm

Winston re your comment upthread:

This if from Christopher Reeve’s wiki page:
Reeve lobbied for expanded federal funding on embryonic stem cell research to include all embryonic stem cell lines in existence and for self-governance to make open-ended scientific inquiry of the research.[110] President George W. Bush limited the federal funding to research only on human embryonic stem cell lines created on or before August 9, 2001, the day he announced his policy, and allotted approximately $100 million for it. Reeve initially called this “a step in the right direction”, admitting he did not know about the existing lines and would look into them further. He fought against the limit when scientists revealed an early research technique involved mixing the human stem cells with mouse cells contaminated most of the old lines.[111]

In 2002, Reeve lobbied for the Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2001,[112] which would allow somatic cell nuclear transfer research, but would ban reproductive cloning. He argued stem cell implantation is unsafe unless the stem cells contain the patient’s own DNA and because somatic cell nuclear transfer is done without fertilizing an egg, it can be fully regulated.[113] In June 2004, Reeve provided a videotaped message on behalf of the Genetics Policy Institute to the delegates of the United Nations in defense of somatic cell nuclear transfer, which a world treaty was considering banning.[114] In the final days of his life, Reeve urged California voters to vote yes on Proposition 71,[115] which would establish the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine and would allot $3 billion of state funds to stem cell research.[116] Proposition 71 was approved less than one month after Reeve’s death.

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 9:01 pm

One shouldn’t be too set in ones ways, Rabz. 🙂

Rabz
August 20, 2022 9:01 pm

My preferred clip for that legendary song (which it appears, has only recently been allowed back on youtube) …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2022 9:02 pm

So ANZ, the second most loathsome of the big 4 after the NAB, took over Suncorp?

Milton – No, only the bank bit. Suncorp still exists as a pure insurance company. Dunno why Suncorp bailed on their bank. I suppose ANZ will find out once they look under the hood.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 9:05 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
August 20, 2022 at 8:48 pm

MT, the other half won’t have that beer with you if you spruik that sorta crap.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 9:09 pm

Rabz, one of the best from that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

Rabz
August 20, 2022 9:09 pm

Imagine turning up at a nightclub at 11:30pm on a Saturday night with Deborah Harry (in her prime) as your goilfriend …

“Yes, Squire, I am with her”

The subsequent laughter would be audible across the Universe. 😕

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
August 20, 2022 9:15 pm

123&bush,
1977 at Canberra Theatre while cavorting about at Debbie Harry’s feet I removed my shirt and circled it above my head before throwing it at her feet.
At shows end she picked it up and enquired after it’s owner.
I reclaimed the shirt.
Alas, that’s the end of the story.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 9:19 pm

Imagine turning up at a nightclub at 11:30pm on a Saturday night with Deborah Harry (in her prime) as your goilfriend …

I served with a bloke who was “stepping out” with one of the top fashion models of New South Wales in the late 1970’s…..he got a lot of free admission to nightclubs….

2dogs
2dogs
August 20, 2022 9:21 pm

The scab is off the FBI, and the pus is oozing…
FBI Agent Pleads Guilty to Destroying Evidence to Frame Pro-Trump Political Prisoner.

The evidence in US vs Woods et al was quite broad, with sworn testimony from Micah Neal and evidence of the bank transfers involved.

What was the nature of the exculpatory evidence on the hard drive? What if anything was faked?

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 9:24 pm
miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2022 9:25 pm

Thanks Bruce re Suncorp info

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 9:29 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
August 20, 2022 at 9:24 pm

And this one.

Great song.

He was into bugs as well, by the looks.
Welcome to my nightmare indeed.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 9:34 pm

Bush, yes, I hadn’t thought of that, at the mo, life imitating his art.

Bruce
Bruce
August 20, 2022 9:42 pm

@ Rabz:

A hot Goil – “she’s a fox”.

Technically, a “Vixen”, although that term is “pre-loaded”.

cohenite
August 20, 2022 9:44 pm

This meme says it all.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 9:49 pm

Talk about rediscovering a Classic, Cats – crank it up to eleventy! 🙂

Rabz
August 20, 2022 9:53 pm

Bruce – never referred to a hot, lithe bit o’ that as a Vixen – the three letter descriptive beginning with F and ending in X seemed to suffice.

“She’s a Vixen” said no one evah, it would seem.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 9:56 pm

“Foxette”

Does such a descriptor exist?

#lurvislurv

Bruce in WA
August 20, 2022 10:04 pm

You want classics?

I’ll give you classics!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2022 10:09 pm

Anyway, “Slainte” to you mob.

Mine’s a double Tallisker, and a good book.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 20, 2022 10:15 pm

From Michael P. Senger’s substack:

Matt-a-Lago: Was Matt Pottinger Behind the Raid on Trump’s Residence?

Rumors are circulating on the political right that former Deputy National Security Advisor Matt Pottinger may have provided the intel for the affidavit warranting the FBI’s raid on former President Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago. This has led to a surge in interest in our recent work exploring Pottinger’s role as a leading Covid alarmist and lockdown advocate in the White House in early 2020

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2022 10:22 pm
rickw
rickw
August 20, 2022 10:28 pm

Go for a Turkish made AKSA. They’ve got Cummins diesels on board.

I reckon 90% of all pumps and gensets I see have Cummins engines, and they just keep going. Clearly good stuff.

Rabz
August 20, 2022 10:31 pm

Trigger warning: Magnifique young women … 🙂

Bruce in WA
August 20, 2022 10:35 pm
Rabz
August 20, 2022 10:40 pm

Trigger warning: More magnifique young women … 🙂

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