(Late night reading- extract from a 1992 Viz.) … “Surely, if we are able to put a man on the…
Open Thread – Tue 30 Aug 2022
Listened to this while we munched on pinchos last night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNp6y7aYa-s Ages since I heard it last. *warning* peak hair…
reflexive woke backlash
Oh. On first reading, Kamahl giving her a bit of “The Best Is Yet To Come!” sounded pretty lit.
Australian entertainer Kamahl has been charged with stalking This should get his mind off the Trump-hate anyway. For those who may…
Wow, the definition of small business must be similar to the definition of what a vaccine is nowadays. That is total BS. How many people employed by the NBN?
“Members include Mastercard, the NBN Co, & others”
Australian hero. Should sue VicStasi.
VIC ALP accused of breaching campaign laws & misuse of public money…again.
The Age reports that Labor assistant secretary Nicola Castleman met government MPs in parliament during a sitting week to plan for the upcoming election.
If only the Vicstasi could grow a dick & balls so they could deal with the Apex gang as adeptly as they dealt with Zoe Bueler.
Zoe Bueler: Posted on Facebook that she was going to the botanical gardens.
Zoe to Dan:
“I guess my message for Dan Andrews would be, I hope one day you’ll have your day in court.”
Salvatore
A clue to the reason they are so union friendly & aloof to actual small businesses may be in the membership:
Members include Mastercard, the NBN Co, & others.
Be fair. Once 5G WiFi takes off, NBN Co will rapidly become a small business. They are just getting in ahead of the decline.
In Ballarat Magistrates Court on Tuesday, police withdrew a single charge of incitement to contravene public health directions.
And it seems it was some sort of actual hearing at which she appeared.
Why did it get that far? Why does she have to turn up to Court?
Answer: because it was never about the law, it was about causing as much damage as possible to a critic of Dan Andrews without letting it get to a stage where someone might have to be accountable for it, then pulling the pin.
If you’ve got two hours to spare, this podcast from Alex Christoforou, Alexander Mercouris and Gonzalo Lira on the economic collapse of the West is interesting.
The End of Abundance.
Actress Drew Barrymore has been accused of being racist after posting a video of herself laughing and walking in the rain
Barrymore encourages people to get out into the rain more in her video, but another TikTok user said she is trying to ‘dismiss’ black creators
The user accused Barrymore of stealing a trend originating in May that featured black men running around joyously in fields
Nigeria becomes first nation to ban white models in commercials
All advertisements, advertising, and marketing communications materials are to make use of only Nigerian models and voiceover artists, according to the Advertising Regulatory Council of Nigeria.
Dan Andrews should go straight to Jail and not pass GO and collect his $200. No Get Out of Jail Free Card either.
At least 71% or 336 Biden White House officials earn under the $125,000 threshold and are thus eligible for the student loan boondoggle.
The Air Force Academy has seen a huge year-on-year drop in the number of applicants interested in attending the service academy, amid a historic military recruiting crisis and a drive to boost diversity on campus.
This year, The Air Force Academy saw a 28 percent decline in its number of applicants from last year, according to Air Force Academy admissions statistics obtained by Breitbart News. In 2021, there were 11,615 applicants. In 2022, that number dropped to 8,393.
The drop in percentage of “qualified candidates” tracked by the academy was even more dire — 46 percent, according to the statistics. In 2021, there were 3,279 qualified candidates. In 2022, there were only 1,775 qualified candidates.
However, there were only about 100 fewer actual offers of admission from 2021 to 2022, suggesting a far less competitive selection process and lower quality recruits for an academy known for producing the Air Force’s pilots.
The lack of interest is despite the Air Force Academy actively trying to boost the “diversity” of its candidates by 10 percent, according to a former academy official.
Academy officials blame the lower interest on the coronavirus pandemic.
Doesn’t sound like the Dawson judge is going to find beyond a reasonable doubt based on what I’ve read heard so far.
Are student loan payoffs “income?”
The IRS is asking.
The biggest threat to human civilisation is not global warming, but global cooling – otherwise known as winter. Tucker Carlson Tonight on the voluntary regression of Europe to the Middle Ages at the behest of political radicals — disciples of the new animist religion now controlling public policy in the West — by making power unaffordable to all but the rich elite.
It really ought not come as any surprise that Zali has a kinship with other fake stuff.
Hillary Clinton was unavailable for comment
“…even worse, the Rocky Horror Picture Show album.”
Sorry to do it, but to quote some lines from “(Let’s Do The) Timewarp (Again)”:
“It’s astounding;
Time is fleeting;
Madness takes its toll.
But listen closely…
Not for very much longer.
I’ve got to keep control.
…
With a bit of a mind flip
You’re into the time slip.
And nothing can ever be the same.
You’re spaced out on sensation.
Like you’re under sedation.
”
Somehow seems apropos to the state of things, but I always did have a weird sense of humor 🙂
Emily Townsend and Alex Hillman publicly quit their jobs for climate change.
I stopped watching the ABC and subscribing to The Australian because of their wayward reporting on climate change.
Seneca is da man.
For federal income tax no, they wrote that into the bill. But in 13 or so states, unless they change their laws, it’s taxable.
That’s being kept very quiet, perhaps until after the midterms.
They didn’t get very far before it broke down, sailing from Portsmouth to the Isle of Wight where it’s now anchored would be like sailing from Fremantle to Rottnest Island.
And they laughed at the Russian carrier.
.1 He obviously didn’t see his wife as one of the “innocent people”.
.2 Whether or not he seriously engaged with a “hit man” is perhaps not relevant. If it is accepted that he contemplated it or discussed it, he has kind of sunk any “spur of the moment, crime ‘o passion” mitigation.
Dunno.
It seems he is accepting a chunk of the circumstantial, but that could just be him being meticulous to appeal-proof his judgement by demonstrating that he has carefully considered all material evidence.
As KD says, if there is one thing JURDGES hate, it is being rolled on appeal because they have overlooked REAL EVIDENCES.
It seems he is accepting a chunk of the circumstantial, but that could just be him being meticulous to appeal-proof his judgement by demonstrating that he has carefully considered all material evidence.
Lots of this I think, no solid evidence but a lot of “who else had the motive”, a little like the Rainey case.
Which makes me wonder, would the chap be able to have a crack at the podcasters etc for slurring his ‘good name” or will the judge ringfence enough nastiness as proven to discourage such an act?
Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.
Clearly the #danbots are out in force;
Social media commentary is heavily against Zoe Bueler.
Most of it low-IQ.
At best the #danbots are exhibiting a stupefying ignorance of the matter.
The plague of Green Elephants
Legend says that if you displeased the King of Siam, he would give you a white elephant. These rare and protected elephants were incredibly expensive to keep.
So a “White Elephant” came to mean a possession that is useless, troublesome, expensive to maintain and difficult to dispose of — like a Sacred Cow, but much bigger.
Today the deluded rulers of the Western world are gifting us and future generations with plagues of Green Elephants — useless, expensive, protected green rubbish.
The biggest green elephants in Australia are the five desalination plants built hurriedly when climate catastrophist Tim Flannery forecast that burning hydrocarbons would create perpetual drought. He forgot La Nina with its cycles of rain and floods for Australia. Flannery’s complex expensive desal plants have largely sat idle.
The sun powers the greatest desalination plant on earth, all for free. If we had spent all that desalination money on dams we could have moderated La Nina flood damage, insulated against El Nino droughts and provided naturally desalinated water for many towns and industries.
Australia was also conned into a war on hydrocarbons by American climate catastrophist, Al Gore, and his animated cartoon. This generated another epidemic of Green Elephants — solar panels, wind turbines, and spider-webs of power lines that squander capital, uglify our landscapes and destroy grasslands, forests, and bird life, as well as destroying our once-cheap and reliable electricity supply. Future generations will be faced with removal and disposal of these Green Monuments to Stupidity.
Another Green Elephant is being suckled in the Snowy Mountains — Snowy 2 Pumped Hydro.
Guilty as charged & proud of it.
Contempt is the only possible moral position on; gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables.
“…then herd those thousands of cows into Dublin and slaughter them on the steps of parliament.”
Well, I suppose that’s marginally better than herding all the politicians to the slaughterhouse and topping the lot of ’em.
Maybe.
Close call though…
“Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.”
I thought you thought the lower classes were the people who never got as far as tertiary education.
Plenty of middle and upper class types doing useless arts with majors in rubbish degrees or not completing their tertiary degrees.
Intellectual Froglegs has a new video out.
Have you run out of terrible Muriel this poor women was prevented from killing her baby by terrible Republicans stories Monty?
The pair were in an “energetic sexual relationship” both before and after Lyn’s disappearance, the judge said.
Yes – I thought that was pretty adventurous for the judge.
The “Great Reset”: A Blueprint for Destroying Freedom, Innovation, and Prosperity
. Notice that no nation has managed merely to print money and tax its citizens on the path to prosperity. Real wealth cannot simply be conjured from thin air. There must be recognized value in what a nation and its citizens possess.
. More than any other source for national wealth, however, one towers above the rest: innovation. The ability of the human mind to create something new and valuable provides society with endless wealth creation…. Innovation is the magic sauce for generating wealth.
. Humans struggling merely to survive in the world do not waste time, labor, or resources on projects that offer no prospect for future reward. Humans working as servants to the state under centrally controlled economies have no incentive to innovate. Only when private ownership and personal liberty combine can human innovation flourish. Freedom is the secret ingredient to innovation’s magic sauce for increasing wealth.
A country whose institutions do not respect property rights or whose customs do not value freedom will remain a barren desert for human innovation
Doesn’t sound like the Dawson judge is going to find beyond a reasonable doubt based on what I’ve read heard so far.
Yes, I wondered why so much is redacted. It seems a lot of it is connected with statements of witnesses for the Crown. Maybe this is indicative that he will not find guilt beyond reasonable doubt & is redacted to protect witnesses …..maybe.
I liked how Townsend said bushfires were caused by climate change not arsonists as those were the only two options.
BTW how does climate change cause bushfire?
Monty can you explain that one, you must know as you voted greens.
Monty thinks “gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables” are the lower classes.
From sans culottes to sans Nikes..
America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.
In a move unprecedented in the democratic world, the Australian Academy of Science is lobbying the tech giants Meta (Facebook), Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Adobe and TikTok to censor and harass any Australians who circulate what the Academy insultingly labels “climate denialism misinformation”
A Mar-a-Lago Transgression
Found in Selected Writings of Sir Edward Coke, vol. I
By Sir Edward Coke and Walter Lippman
In 1604, the English the English judge and jurist Sir Edward Coke announced in a “ruling known as Semayne’s Case that there were strict limits on how Sheriffs may enter a person’s house in order to issue writs”: “That the house of every one is to him as his Castle and Fortress as well for defence against injury and violence, as for his repose…”. If the Sheriffs did not follow the correct procedure in issuing writs, then the home owner had the right “to shut the door of his own house” in their faces.
In 1934, the American political commentator Waler Lippman added: “[T]he Englishman’s belief that his house is his castle and that the king cannot enter it, like the American’s conviction that he must be able to look any man in the eye and tell him to go to hell, are the very essence of the free man’s way of life.”
The Method Of Freedom, 1934, pp100-2
Hi there Monty!
good to see you’re around cos I think you’ve missed my question a few times (about 9 times to be precise):
Do you still assert “Trump appointed Reinhart” and that a fundamental rake like this says a lot about your lack of judgement/knowledge?
So the real plan is to recompense people caught up in fake degree mills.
Finding that a little hard to believe.
m0ntysays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:58 pm
[Which Cats have ever said that the student debtors don’t include vast numbers of dropouts, gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?]
Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.
Well at least you’ve dropped the “talking point demolished” bullshit with which you cemented your status as a ridiculous stooge.
As for “lower classes”, I don’t think of people in such terms. I’ve just described a few categories of student debtors. I didn’t pass any value judgment on them. So what makes you think I hold them in contempt anyway? Projection, much m0nty?
Gasp!
JC!
Get in here and explain yourself!
Fake degree mills which depend solely on government for their accreditation and ability to keep trading.
That was part of it rosie, not all of it.
The most salient part of it was that it was means-tested, so it was targeted at those for whom college did not lift their earnings enough to get them paying it off.
About deceased partners I wonder how Glen McGrath’s new wife deals with the celebration of his deceased wife every year.
The latter part of the sentence above is complete horseshit.
Sydney bus news….
This morning I caught the bus into the CBD, the bus was full and very few were wearing face masks. I sat down next to an elderly woman who was wearing a mask. I smiled at her. I don’t know whether she smiled back, because you can’t tell when someone is wearing a mask but she quickly showed she was in a very bad mood and unimpressed with us “unmasked”.
She said…“Dreadful that so many people on this bus aren’t wearing masks.”
I responded…“No, it’s a good thing, nobody is worried anymore and people are getting on with their lives.”
She said…“People are still getting sick, I went to a party last week and four people caught Covid, and people on this bus are spreading Covid. The bus driver should make people wear masks”.
I said…“Firstly, if you’re so worried about Covid, you shouldn’t be going to parties and secondly, stop lecturing me”.
She said…“I’m not lecturing you, I’m telling you”.
I said…“Then get off the bus and walk.”
She said nothing more.
The trick with the Cat, Lysander, particularly when you are dealing with me, is not to become one of those posters who are indistinguishable from bots, repeating the same things over and over. Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference. They are the Internet equivalent of those dancing fish that you put on your wall which wiggle whenever you click your fingers near them.
Don’t become one of those pathetic losers, if you can help it. Or lean into it, if that’s your thing.
This may have a meaning deeper than the one you at first thought.
Student activists demanding ever more bizarre services played apart in the debt. And I wouldn’t oppose going after the grey money that the university’s hold in trusts.
Lysandersays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:34 pm
Are student loan payoffs “income?”
The IRS is asking.
Apparently they are rated as income. Nasty surprise ahead for some.
How can some crusty old judge decide if someone is truthful or not?
The premise is ridiculous.
According to British media reports, a direct sea shipping container route has been opened for the first time between China and Scotland. And soon, more than 1 million bottles of whisky will leave the west coast of Scotland to be shipped to China through this direct route.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202208/1274167.shtml
CCP crowing about the Scots flogging them grog.
m0ntysays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:58 pm
Which Cats have ever said that the student debtors don’t include vast numbers of dropouts, gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?
Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.
More likely contempt for the low standard drivel that often passes for a university “education” these days, which seems aimed at those who would never have made it into more “academic” courses.
It’s not as if they were studying economics.
War, fatalism, even some heavy drinking:
Here are the modern movies you should watch to understand the mysterious ‘Russian soul’
As Russia celebrates its Cinema Day – RT tells you which flicks deserve your attention
even some heavy drinking: – was invited to the wedding of a Lovely Russian Girl working for me to an Italian (who I also knew)
1. No seating in Russian Orthodox Wedding
2. We were seated on the Russian side at the Reception in Beverly Hills (Sydney) and on every table including the Italian Side were bottles of Gin, Vodka, Rum, Whiskey plus Beer and Wine
Bride’s Father went round every table drinking a Toast, then as we lined up to give wedding presents to Bride and Groom (a Russian Tradition). he had a Toast with every presenter
When she returned from her Honeymoon, I asked how was her Father able to stand after so many Toasts
Practice, She said, to drowning the misery of winters
to Quote
“The greatest pleasure of this people is drunkenness, in other words, oblivion. Poor folk! they must dream to be happy…”
Words that might have been written yesterday, they in fact belong to Astolphe Louis Leonor, the Marquis de Custine, a 19th-century French aristocrat and traveller whose observations on matters Russian, including their love of the bottle, remain trenchant almost 200 years on.
And as we all know, that relationship with alcohol is indeed epic; existential, metaphysical, even. Russia can take your average, half-hearted office party bender and pump it up to Olympian feats of endurance and stupefaction.
I hope she sues the Andrews government for lots of money.
Zoe Buhler was arrested in her Ballarat home in September 2020 while pregnant.
The mother-of-three livestreamed her arrest, showing police handcuffing her in a video that later went viral and sparked concerns from the Australian Human Rights Commission.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-30/anti-lockdown-protest-charges-thrown-out-ballarat-woman/101385396
m0nty-fa
America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.
If Creepy Joe is going to protect mugs from the effects of their own stupidity, he’s going to need a lot more money. He is replacing one scam with another.
rosiesays:
August 30, 2022 at 2:18 pm
So the real plan is to recompense people caught up in fake degree mills.
Finding that a little hard to believe.
The real plan is to buy some votes, at the taxpayers’ expense. The DemonRats are too cheap to use their own money. That is the real scam here, and m0nty-fa supports it.
This ‘counter-offensive’ will go nowhere.
Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference.
Good to see that you are still reading my comments.
Alright, Mr DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up.
Answer the question shiteater (h/t Tim). Do you agree you made a pre-primary school-level error by saying “Trump appointed Reinhart?”
Go.
It is sounding more and more like Dawson is going to be found guilty.
The JURDGE seems to be “satisfied” with a lot of the prosecution stuff.
Could be just making sure he canvasses all possibilities, but he seems to be going further than that.
Two of my nephews have been dux of their respective yr 12 high schools. Come from a extra large family, no money to support themselves through uni except part time work like many. Contrast that with the lawyer whose house we brought years ago that I used to go to school with who wanted for nothing. Went to uni only to find some work was required and drugs and partying paid for by daddy was much easier. The surgeon across the road had a wastrel son, failed medicine enjoying drugs and finally spent time in gaol for trafficking rare birds. Of course they could have married up and started a fantasy football site. Imagined class has nothing to do with effort required to succeed. Thats why you’ll always be a failure, no effort.
And it’s a walk in the park for Russia?
This is unlike you, Fatboy. That’s because all your views and opinions expressed here on any topic comes from your original thoughts and not Vox or MSBC, right?
You’d have to be the biggest NPC here.
America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.
So the answer to “shysters/fly by night/etc” is to allow them to keep their ill gotten gains and dip into the pockets of people who didnt sign up for their courses.
I dont know about anyone else but Im not really seeing any Justice’ done here, just a bailout of scammers.
CCP crowing about the Scots flogging them grog.
The only thing missing is buggery.
mUnty back again like one of those child’s punching clowns. How apt.
Lysander, Monty is a professional troll. One of the troll’s favourite tactics — for example, to avoid answering a simple, direct question — is the look-over-there squirrel:
My advice is to treat Monty as an excellent source of unintended humour. Trolls like to see themselves as masters of the universe when they’re actually as dumb as dogshit. I mean, leftards like Monty believe boys can be girls and vice versa. Totally retarded.
Sourced any good information from the Twitterverse today mUnty? Go straight to the source Crikey.
First thing, if the allegation is correct the bloke is a pest who deserves criminal charges.
Grace Tame alleges ‘threats and harassment’ on social media came from her abuser
Former Australian of the year shares screenshots on Twitter purportedly from the now-suspended account of the man who repeatedly abused her in 2010
However…
Cant you mute people on twitter and remove their ability to post on your ID?
Dawson guilty.
Dawson GUILTY!!!
Dawson found guilty of murder.
Indeed Tom. Munted has only been asked 10 times now if he still holds the view the Trump appointed Reinhart. A pretty fucking stupid mistake.
Totally retarded.
Ridiculous.
The standard of proof in Australia is now having a journalist getting a bee in their bonnet.
What style on the part of vicpol to withdraw charges agains Zoe Buhler on the very day of the hearing.
What style on the part of vicpol to withdraw charges agains Zoe Buhler on the very day of the hearing.
In situations like this, the state should pick up the tab on the legal fees for the punter impacted.
GreyRanga
Of course they could have married up and started a fantasy football site. Imagined class has nothing to do with effort required to succeed. Thats why you’ll always be a failure, no effort.
Nicely summed up.
Dawson may have done it.
Dawson may have been involved if someone else killed her.
He’s probably a horrible prick too.
But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.
Not at all.
Noticed the site of the new Russian Embassy has been taken off them and given to the Ukes. Reason being the Ruskies haven’t done enough work on it. There are sites all over here earmarked for Embassies with nothing ever being done. Yesterday the Uke Ambassador was on about a tent or crowd funding a building. Grifters gotta grift.
Dawson goorne.
BJ, I’m learning off the best, Cassie!
Dawson trial. Listens all 4 + hours of judges decision process.
Falls asleep for last 30 min of declaration.
Wakes up to find Dawson guilty.
Wow! Wowee!
The prosecution presented a wholly circumstantial but powerful case, overcoming the hurdle of Lyn’s remains never being found.
So the long summation by the judge was to try to cover appeals against the guilty verdict.
Id call it a brave judgement.
Probably correct, but brave.
Its funny how whenever I read Cassie I hear Stephanie of 2GB fame after someone else mentioned it. Two excellent commenters, hit the nail on the head every time. Both could drive a six inch nail with a tack hammer.
But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.
Australia.
Dover
I wouldn’t be overly optimistic Russia will be perceived as the winner in this conflict. They should have taken the place by now… at least ages ago.
An International Group of Scientists Find Twelve Brands of Covid Injections Contain Hydrogel and Reduced Graphene Oxide
Munty is perplexed by gender studies, he can feel a willie but when he looks in the mirror he sees a vag.
If JC (Dawson’s lover, not our esteemed Cat) was found to be so truthy by old judge, why didn’t she come forward in the 80’s or 90’s?
Also seems that such a long summation is required where there is no jury.
Apparently costs split is “to be worked out by the parties themselves”
If Vikstasi were smart, they’d pay her bill.
Nothing the Vikstasi have done over the past 3 yrs would be grounds for accusing them of being “smart”
Dawson may have done it.
Dawson may have been involved if someone else killed her.
He’s probably a horrible prick too.
But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.
True Bern. The judge seemed to see the deception with phone calls (to the pool etc) showed he was bs-ing from the get go. Dawson is a wretch, no doubt. But you’d think there’s still plenty of reasonable doubt about murder. Why the police weren’t chasing this up by about March-April 1982 is beyond me. Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?
Vikstasi aren’t what you’d call a model litigant – what a bunch of savages
feelthebern says: August 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm
Eggzackerly.
Nothing is more reliable or truthy than statements by a former root, especially comments designed to have a deleterious effect upon the reputation & future prospects of the rootee.
“feelthebernsays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm
If JC (Dawson’s lover, not our esteemed Cat) was found to be so truthy by old judge, why didn’t she come forward in the 80’s or 90’s?”
She did, back in the 90’s.
I am still reading Plimers latest work ‘Green Murder’ and he lays out how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth (deserts expand when its cooler) – kinda opposite the narrative .
“…it was targeted at those for whom college did not lift their earnings enough to get them paying it off.”
Hmm… So that masters in lesbian interpretive dance didn’t lead to a good paying job, eh?
Who knew?
Well, YOU should have. No M0nty, not you – the person taking out a loan to get said degree.
How is it fair that the family that saved and scrimped so their offspring didn’t need a loan, are now required to contribute to their neighbours kids debt – while they were holidaying in a caravan, the neighbour was flying to Bali or where ever, living it up, making their kids take out a loan instead.
Or what about the builders labourer that never went to college and neither do his kids – but he has to pay for someone else’s kids to go for a useless degree that doesn’t even pay enough to cover it’s own cost?
As Dan Bongino succinctly puts it “Pay off your own damn loan!”
Unless, of course, you think it’s OK to take out a loan to buy a mansion, then get everyone else to pay it off because you didn’t get that pay rise you thought you’d get? In which case, if that’s on the cards, where do I sign?
I didn’t listen to all the Dawson verdict, but every time I tuned in I thought “He’s definitely leaning towards guilty, or maybe trying to ‘appeal proof’ his verdict by demonstrating he has left no stone unturned”.
As it went on I became less convinced of ‘appeal proofing’.
To be honest, the DPP was never going to appeal a JURDGE only not guilty verdict in a circumstantial case.
The only appeal was likely to be from the defence in the case of a guilty verdict.
Please, let’s not say “no evidence”.
There was a lot of credible circumstantial evidence, corroborated by independent witnesses.
Was it enough?
The JURDGE thought so.
Things were different then, anyone remember the case of Leigh Leigh?
Its funny how whenever I read Cassie I hear Stephanie of 2GB fame after someone else mentioned it. Two excellent commenters, hit the nail on the head every time. Both could drive a six inch nail with a tack hammer.
Stephanie, as erudite as she sounds, comes across as a pompous, North Shore Grand Dame.
Cassie, is far more visceral in her remarks. I mean that in the nicest possible way. She never leaves us in any doubt as to what she thinks. That’s a good thing. I just don’t want to sit on the bus next to her, maskless.
“…how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth…”
While you’ve got the climate historical data out, check out how the temperature increase is a lagging indicator of less precipitation (certainly true in Oz)
IOW, it’s not that heat causes drought, it’s that drought causes heat!
There are people out that support the destruction of a human being at this stage of development.
Something similar happened in 1960 when Nigeria gained its independence from the UK.
All Brits working in the British Civil Service in Nigeria were blocked from any promotions that could be taken by locals.
Hazy memories of that time so any corrections are welcome.
CO2 lags temperature also!
“True Bern. The judge seemed to see the deception with phone calls (to the pool etc) showed he was bs-ing from the get go. Dawson is a wretch, no doubt. But you’d think there’s still plenty of reasonable doubt about murder. Why the police weren’t chasing this up by about March-April 1982 is beyond me. Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?”
And therein lies the rub. Having listened to the podcast, it’s clear….
1. The local police were in awe of Dawson due to his league celebrity. He was famous, and he and his brother were treated like gods. The police simply couldn’t be bothered following up Lyn’s disappearance. It took almost ten years before a policeman on the northern beaches bothered investigating.
2. What I find so strange and devastating is Lyn’s family, including her mother and father. For a long time after Lyn disappeared, they did nothing and simply swallowed Dawson’s lies. If that had been me, my mother would have spent years harassing Dawson as to where her daughter was and also badgered the police but Lyn’s family were so smitten by Dawson, they believed his lies, despite clear warning signs such as Dawson shacking up with his teenage lover days after Lyn’s disappearance. so her family did nothing for years.
It’s a really tragic story, I have no doubt Dawson did it….with help…and that help wasn’t the teenage lover.
Things were different then, anyone remember the case of Leigh Leigh?
Yes, Tinta, I worked in Newcastle at the time. It was dreadful. The little office I worked in processed all the cardboard school bus passes.
About a month after her murder the system printed out her school bus pass. A little reminder of a little life of great value taken by others who didn’t value life and her dignity at all.
Cassie I didn’t know she came forward.
Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.
and that help wasn’t the teenage lover.
bruvvers are bruvvers
The dude isn’t a trannie, but just pretending so as to mock tannies pretending they’re women playing sport.
“Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.”
I agree.
It’s a really tragic story, I have no doubt Dawson did it….with help…
Agree.
This is largely why I’m dismissive of the Kherson counter-offensive., BTW.
“bruvvers are bruvvers”
Yep.
I agree Cassie.
Homicide didn’t want to touch it and referred it back to local plod as a routine missing persons case.
You can imagine what happened even if some bright-eyed junior officer had started digging.
Some old copper would haul him aside on Monday morning (after spending all Sunday demolishing schooners at the rugby league club) telling him something like, “Listen, son. His missus has pissed off to Queensland with some no-hoper druggie. She’s been rootin’ around behind his back for ages. The poor bloke is left with two kids and he’s got enough on his plate. Leave it.”
Not suggesting the cops were willingly corrupt in the brown paper bag sense.
Just asleep at the wheel.
Remember, this was only 5-6 years after “no-fault” divorce was introduced.
Dawson and his ilk would have been outraged that “she would get half of his assets”.
Goodt news.
https://news.mit.edu/2022/aluminum-sulfur-battery-0824
At a guess – the Dawson twins mesmerised northern beaches locals (including police, family and friends) with their good looks, rugby league “star” status, and convincing narrative.
Something similar did happen when Zambia – formerly Northern Rhodesia – gained independence – the British mining engineers running the copper mines that were the backbone of the economy – were told that their jobs would be done by locals, and it was all downhill from there.. the mines flooded, the machinery broken down, spare parts sold on the ‘black” market…
I believe this matter went before two coronial inquests, both of which determined that Lyn Dawson was dead and recommended that Chris Dawson be charged with her murder. It’s not as if the case was run on the basis of the podcast; the police investigation was already well underway after it was realised that the original 1980s investigation was unsatisfactory.
You are incorrect Rabz.
They were very concerned about how the arrest was handled.
Not by the arrest itself, mind you, but how it was handled.
dover0beachsays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:26 pm
And it’s a walk in the park for Russia?
Not at all.
2 sides to every story – Ukraine’s counter-offensive attempt has failed – Russia
Kiev’s troops suffered great losses in a failed attack ordered by president Zelensky towards Kherson, Moscow says
Ukraine’s much-heralded “counter-offensive” in Kherson has “failed miserably,” the Russian Defense Ministry insisted on Monday, listing estimated losses suffered by Kiev during the operation.
Ukrainian forces had attempted to attack in three directions on orders of President Vladimir Zelensky but made no gains, Moscow explained.
Russian troops caused “great losses” to the Ukrainian attackers during the day’s battles, a statement read. Kiev saw 26 tanks, 23 armored fighting vehicles, nine more armored vehicles, and two SU-25 ground-attack jets destroyed, while more than 560 troops were lost, according to the summary.
Earlier in the day, the Ukrainian outlet Suspilne quoted Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk as saying that “offensive actions in various directions” had begun, “including in the Kherson region.” She offered no details, however, saying only that “any military operation needs silence.”
By Monday evening, however, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine mentioned only a Russian attack near the village of Potemkino.
Kiev has been talking about a “Kherson counteroffensive” all summer, while soliciting more weapons and ammunition from its Western backers. In a video address to the people on Sunday, Zelensky vowed that “Ukraine will return” to Donbass – as well as Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Kherson and “definitely to Crimea.”
Old Ozzie
You can’t really believe any side of the war.
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 at 2:23 pm · Reply
Pentagon admits ‘likelihood’ of Ukrainian shelling near nuclear plant
US officials responded to questions about Kiev’s forces targeting Zaporozhye
A senior US military official admitted on Monday that Ukrainian forces may have struck the area around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but insisted that this was only in response to Russian fire allegedly coming from the area. Earlier in the day, Russian authorities said a Ukrainian artillery shell damaged the roof of the building storing reactor fuel.
“What I know for sure is that the Russians are firing from around the plant,” the unnamed official told reporters during a background briefing at the Pentagon. “I also know that there are rounds that have impacted near the plant.”
The official said it was “hard to explain, I guess” how the US was monitoring the situation around the nuclear power plant, Europe’s largest.
“And I don’t want to say that the Ukrainians haven’t fired in that vicinity either because I think there’s probably a likelihood that they have, but in good – in a number of cases, it’s returning fire of the Russians
JCsays:
August 30, 2022 at 4:25 pm
Old Ozzie
You can’t really believe any side of the war.
JC,
totally agree, but still like to read both sides – based on Past American Efforts – not much faith in American Propaganda
Re American Incompetence
THE MADNESS OF SLOW JOE, IRAN EDITION (17)
At a glance, the Judge’s remarks on the Dawson trial sound more like a coroner’s report than a legal finding.
Gazprom announces further reductions in gas supply just now.
Most of northern Germany will be mid to low 20’s today.
This shit has to be sorted before winter.
Shit sandwiches for everyone.
“Homicide didn’t want to touch it and referred it back to local plod as a routine missing persons case.
You can imagine what happened even if some bright-eyed junior officer had started digging.
Some old copper would haul him aside on Monday morning (after spending all Sunday demolishing schooners at the rugby league club) telling him something like, “Listen, son. His missus has pissed off to Queensland with some no-hoper druggie. She’s been rootin’ around behind his back for ages. The poor bloke is left with two kids and he’s got enough on his plate. Leave it.””
Umm…yes, and this is what happened when a curious northern beaches copper started rummaging around back in the early 1990’s.
Someone I know went to a north shore high school back in the early 1970’s, Chris Dawson and his twin were the PE teachers there. This person’s description of Dawson and his brother, decades later, was that they were like Greek gods. They would walk into the classroom and people would blink, they were mesmerising.
The FBI: A Campaign Arm of the Democrat Party
“Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity” is the FBI motto. According to the FBI website, this motto, “Succinctly describes the motivating force behind the men and women of the FBI.”
Perhaps a new motto of “Funny Business Incorporated” or “Friendly to Biden Interests” would be more appropriate to their apparent new mission. When did the FBI, the largest and most heavily armed law enforcement agency in America, now inserting itself unconstitutionally into American politics, pivot from fidelity and integrity to partisanship and dishonesty?
Start with the 2016 presidential election. Many are already familiar with Spygate
And influence an election they did. Media Research Center conducted a poll of 1,750 voters in seven swing states and learned that, “One of every six Biden voters (17%) said they would not have voted for him had they known the facts about several of the news stories the national media refused to investigate thoroughly because they might have hurt his candidacy.”
The FBI had the laptop for almost a year and right before the election conveniently declared it Russian propaganda, a falsehood parroted by “51 former intelligence officials.” The FBI, and Big Tech under FBI encouragement, fabricated and spread Russian propaganda in 2016 when it could hurt the Republican candidate and suppressed and censored a real story in 2020 when it could hurt the Democrat candidate. That certainly sounds like election interference.
The Mar-a-Lago raid is a shot across the bow for any GOP presidential candidates for 2024, Trump being the presumptive nominee at this point. Will the FBI ask the DoJ to indict Trump on nonsensical declassification accusations? While they gave candidate Hillary Clinton a pass despite her using an unsecured server and personal email account to traffic highly classified emails?
The FBI is delivering a warning to Trump. Will Governor Ron DeSantis be the next one to have his home raided by the FBI?
We expect this type of behavior from the corporate media, academia, Hollywood, big finance, big pharma, big tech, and other Democrat party constituent groups, but not the FBI and other government agencies.
Hear, hear.
To a point, so do I.
I know people will draw comparisons with the Pell case.
And there are similarities – cold case, only 1-2 central players, no direct eyewitnesses, and therefore a wholly circumstantial case.
However there is one key difference.
In Pell’s case, all of the ancillary ‘second hand’ witnesses (more than 20) virtually constructed a web of exculpatory evidence which was akin to having Mother Theresa as an eyewitness.
In the absence of direct witnesses in the Dawson case, almost all secondary witnesses provided evidence of either pre-meditation, predisposition to violence, or cover-up which, in aggregate, was enough to convince the JURDGE.
Meaningless Things in Life – Melbourne’s coffee order vs Sydney’s, and what we ordered in winter
On cold winter nights Australians turned to Indian food and burgers to warm their bellies, but for coffee deliveries there was a sharp difference between what Melbourne and Sydney picked for their caffeine fix.
Data from food delivery company DoorDash showed 43 per cent of coffees ordered over the app in Melbourne were lattes, but in Sydney it was the cappuccino that took the prize, with 44 per cent of coffees delivered.
The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age collected winter delivery order data from DoorDash, UberEats, and Deliveroo to get a picture of what Australians had brought to their door in the coldest months of the year.
– Melbourne vs. Sydney coffee orders
– Top Milk Choices in Coffee Orders
– Winter 2022 Top Dishes
– Winter 2022 Top Cuisines
Chris Dawson found guilty
Former teacher Chris Dawson has been found guilty of murdering his missing wife Lynette.
NSW Supreme Court judge Ian Harrison SC today found Dawson killed Lyn, disposed of her body and then lied for decades to conceal the crime.
Four years after The Australian’s investigative podcast series The Teacher’s Pet detailed the highly suspicious circumstances around Lyn’s decades-old unsolved disappearance, Justice Harrison said he was satisfied beyond reasonable doubt Dawson was guilty.
Them evil European colonizers.
Some memories of yester-year from Zulu’s “timeline” post:
* Dawson received a phone call at the Northbridge baths – must have been a call to the office who then called out “Dawson. Chris Dawson. Phone call”. I’m assuming the rudimentary and expensive mobile phones weren’t part of Chris’ belongings.
* BankCard. The first credit card we were all issued with. Through the mail, whether we needed it or not.
John Connor II
August 30, 2022 at 4:14 pm · Reply
British begin moving war planes to civilian airports
Britain is preparing to station combat aircraft in civilian airports for the first time since World War II in response to the Ukraine conflict.
The dispersing of planes across the country will allegedly help the Royal Air Force’s rapid-response units survive attacks on their bases.
The Agile Combat Employment (ACE) scheme was initially intended for potential hotspots overseas, such as the Indo-Pacific, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe.
A trial next month will have Eurofighter Typhoon and F-35 jet fighters based in Norfolk, Lincolnshire, and Scotland “scattered in small groups and based discreetly” in several regional airports with suitable runways.
Other jets and larger aircraft will be based in different areas in times of “imminent crisis.”
https://ussanews.com/2022/08/29/uk-to-move-warplanes-to-civilian-airports-daily-express/
Hardly surprising considering Britain’s willingness to start a nuclear war…
Given it would take just 20 minutes for a Russian ICBM to hit the UK, they’d better not poke the bear too hard…
Saw a Jim’s Ironing franchisee drive past yesterday. The outsourcing of menial tasks is getting out of hand. Had a few mates who had 5 shirts hanging behind the office door most of the time.
What was Lynette’s purported reason for going missing? Any proffered in court?
Beyond being circumstantial evidence I do not see any parallel with Pell.
Don’t knock it – Mme Zulu reckons money spent on a cleaning lady, and an ironing lady, is money well spent.
Both the Dawson murder and the Kelli Lane investigation saw Northern Beaches police officers drag their feet instead of investigating.
Must be the slow pace of life in Godsone.
I already spend money on a cleaning lady AND an ironing lady…and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let her subcontract it out.
Part of the time – line in the Oz.
Chris Dawson somehow put it about that she had variously “just pissed off” or “pissed off with some bloke”.
He never advanced any reason as to why he might think that.
He then contrived credit card transactions which purported to have been made by Lyn some weeks after she disappeared.
You have to ask.
Why would he do that?
flyingduksays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:51 pm
BTW how does climate change cause bushfire?
I am still reading Plimers latest work ‘Green Murder’ and he lays out how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth (deserts expand when its cooler) – kinda opposite the narrative .
These conclusions come from observation, which is a much less powerful tool than computer models. Ask any klimate “scientist”, they’ll tell you.
Which you could do in the early 1980s. You could go to parts of QLD, WA and all of the NT and effectively disappear.
Try that excuse on for a missing wifey in this day and age and see how far you get.
Them evil European colonizers.
Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice May Be World’s Largest
More than 140 children were ritually killed in a single event in Peru more than 500 years ago. What could possibly have been the reason?
Evidence for the largest single incident of mass child sacrifice in the Americas— and likely in world history—has been discovered on Peru’s northern coast, archaeologists tell National Geographic.
More than 140 children and 200 young llamas appear to have been ritually sacrificed in an event that took place some 550 years ago on a wind-swept bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean, in the shadow of what was then the sprawling capital of the Chimú Empire.
It was the Spanish invaders and they were not Colonisers. They were stealing all the Gold, Silver and Precious Stones, etc, that they could their hands on and shipping it back to Spain. Anyone or anything that got in the way got smashed.
This is largely why I’m dismissive of the Kherson counter-offensive.
The Russians are in big trouble.
I believe that Munty is personally leading the Kherson offensive.
Will be going over the top with his boys.
believe this matter went before two coronial inquests, both of which determined that Lyn Dawson was dead and recommended that Chris Dawson be charged with her murder.
Correct.
Pretty well the case can be summed up as “justice delayed is justice denied”.
Because the original plod dropped the ball its been 35 years of catching up.
Still uncomfortable with 40 year old well publicized cases etc, but at least they have 2 coroners inquests to back up laying the charges in the first place.
There have been a few WFH stories about software developers in both the UK and US contracting their work to India. Nice gig if you can get it.
Before the Internet and credit cards it was plausible to just disappear. Don’t like your chances today. Cops still turn up the odd fugitive after decades working for cash in the arse end of nowhere or one of struth’s gigs.
That explains the 200 dead llamas then.
Tucker Carlson: Things are falling apart every quickly
Dunc, thanks for picking that up. One twat from Croucher, which doesn’t even mention Ms Buhler’s name and much “concern about the handling of the arrest”.
Shut them down and fire them all, as of yesterday. Absolutely bloody useless fascist hypocrites.
Except that this time it wasn’t the Spanish as they hadn’t got to South America 550 years ago. Columbus didn’t get to the West Indies until 1492. Looks to be an inside job to appease those Gods.
Cassie of Sydneysays:
August 30, 2022 at 4:04 pm
“Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.”
I agree.
That’s the really troubling thing – whatever’s done will leave an uneasy feeling that justice hasn’t been done. It would be immensely difficult to defend against an accusation that something happened decades ago. But on the other hand how could there be a blanket rule that no case can be brought just because time has passed, no matter how good the case now is?
The only solution is a very consistent approach to whether to bring such a case at all, and if it is brought, a rigorous application of the “beyond reasonable doubt” requirement. I don’t know enough about the Dawson case to say whether that was done.
But clearly it isn’t always.
Much as I would like to see Kathy Sherriff get a proper chance to bring her accusations against the execrable Peanut Head, looked at in isolation one could understand (even if one didn’t agree with) the decision not to prosecute.
But LaborPol (formerly known as VicPol) behaved so differently in relation to Pell than they did to Peanut Head that it’s impossible not to conclude that there was serious police misconduct involved in one or more likely both of those investigations.
agreed. The AHRC never put out anything official.. just a bit of a murmer from this bird on twitter.
Like you say – fire the lot.
Well played, Mater. 🙂
BTW, I’d love to be a fly on the wall if ever Mrs Mater stumbles upon that post.
Ditto!!
Sure, but without anyone actually saying that they had been confided in by Lynette, that the pair were having problems, that she packed a bag, etc. why believe it?
In the podcast, in one of the last episodes, there’s a curious anecdote about how Dawson and his brother attended a function at the home of a couple who’d known Lyn, Chris, and the Sims and Dawson families. This function/occasion was about twelve years ag. The person at the function casually asked Chris, having not seen him in decades, “whatever happened to Lyn”? Apparently, Chris looked at his twin brother and the brother said that Lyn ran off to join a religious cult and Chris nodded in agreement. Both of these men are joined at the hip…the brother knows.
This Kherson offensive has been talked about since July. It will be as much a surprise to the Russians as Kursk was in ’43.
Two similar cases up here in recent times. Policing in that period could be amateur to the point of incompetence. There are always risks in bringing “cold” cases to trial but prosecutors & judges take that into consideration.
About the only news you can trust about Kherson is that there is a counter offensive going on. Both sides agree on that much. Beyond that, it’s all propaganda at this point.
she disappeared.
You have to ask.
Why would he do that?
She didn’t have any say in the matter
Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? If Chis Dawson was playing happy families with a schoolgirl, isn’t the age of consent raised to 18 in such a case?
why believe it?
Well speculating here.
There would have been an element of “what sort of a loose mole buggers off with a new bloke leaving her kids behind with her saint of a husband”…
Fair bit of milking for sympathy he could have done there.
And as mentioned if her own parents didnt kick up a stink then maybe the story was true… (this being public perception, who knows how much bullshit he laid on them before the disappearance)
Lots of impossible to answer questions now.
The evidence in the Pell case was in not compelling, and certainly not beyond reasonable doubt, as was evident to anyone who considered it impartially, as the three Victorian dimwits should have done.
Sorry, two dimwits.
Sorry, two dimwits.
Excellent quick autocorrect Roger.
Multi-tasking, Toad.
Spag Bol on the boil!
Cassie would you recommend the podcast?
I’m looking for something to binge on.
I resorted to re-starting the Perry Mason reboot, making it two episodes in this time but it stinks.
Bern
Try City on a Hill , showing on Stan. It’s not bad.
It gets even better, in that same statement HRC says (unbelievably) in two consecutive sentences
In times of crisis our rights are as important as ever. … measures to control have required temporary limitations of our rights & freedoms.
No “vaccine”, no school, including remote.
DC mayor forbids in-person school attendance and remote learning for all unvaccinated students
Don’t have Stan.
I can’t keep signing up to streaming services.
I’m already pissed that Paramount plus took Star Trek Discovery from Netflix.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: August 30, 2022 at 5:24 pm
Dunno the laws of those times in New South.
In mighty Qld today it wouldn’t matter what age the girl (or boy) is, if they are a “client” of the Education Dept & he is a teacher for that Education dept, then regardless of which school either is at, he is subject to summary termination with all the misconduct penalties being applied.
i.e. if a 23yo bloke is a teacher at a state school in Mt. Isa, & on a big weekend in Brisbane shags a 43yo skank at a nightclub, & it transpires she’s an adult re-doing high school at the Mt. Gravatt adult remedial learning centre, then he is in as much trouble as if he snogs one of his 16yo pupils at the school dance.
College vaccine-mandate lawsuit cites ‘fraudulent’ death certificates
Yep. The main argument is around the quality of the evidence that can be lead on both sides.
WA Cats would be familiar with the Lloyd Rayney case, again circumstantial and heard by an interstate judge sitting without a jury because the victim, Rayney’s wife was a Supreme Court Registrar. He was acquitted. Interestingly I met him at a friends birthday party before it went to trial.
I was reading today that one of the reasons people are knowingly using fentanyl in their drug mix is because they’re trying to recreate the same hit from xanax & methadone which one of the preferred combinations.
How fucked up would you have to be.
Seriously.
It is so woke and so obviously anti MAGA I reckon the writers could be Monty Python fans.
If anything, all things being as they should be, the delay favours the defendant.
The prosecution must prove its case beyond reasonable doubt; with the passing of time it should become easier for the defence to cast doubt on circumstantial evidence, key witnesses may no longer be available, and so on.
How terrible that these kids aren’t being taught about 57 genders by drag queens!
I wonder when the obvious will occur: that parents club together and do real educations of their kids in a collaborative home schooling model. The credentials of the HSC etc must be looking less and less meaningful.
Ponygirl, btw, is making apprenticeships in TAFE colleges free. Not sure she quite understands what she’s doing. Breeding class-enemies probably won’t go down well with ALP HQ.
Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk extends free TAFE and apprenticeships for under 25s until midway through 2023 (Sky News, 29 Aug)
About the only news you can trust about Kherson is that there is a counter offensive going on. Both sides agree on that much. Beyond that, it’s all propaganda at this point.
General Muntgumery!
isn’t the age of consent raised to 18 in such a case?
Dawson has been charged with sexual assault or something similar, and has yet to face trial for it, apparently.
There is another angle to the Dawson case, and this might sound like rough justice, but here goes.
If he appeals and is successful, it is unlikely he will have served any unwarranted time in the slot.
He still faces charges of statutory rape, or carnal knowledge of a child as it was known then.
This carries an extra tariff if the offender is (or was) “in loco parentis” as he was as a teacher, and he has virtually admitted that the offence took place. It would be an act of epic stupidity to plead not guilty to that one.
Unlikely he would get less than 2-3 years for that one.
Star Trek Discovery is some of the darkest shit on TV.
Good watching.
Burn has crush on the doc in Star Trek Discovery.
If you’re perceived as an enemy of the state in Victoria, things may not be as they should be.