Open Thread – Tue 30 Aug 2022


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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 30, 2022 1:11 pm

Wow, the definition of small business must be similar to the definition of what a vaccine is nowadays. That is total BS. How many people employed by the NBN?

“Members include Mastercard, the NBN Co, & others”

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 1:13 pm

Zoe Bueler

Australian hero. Should sue VicStasi.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 1:15 pm

VIC ALP accused of breaching campaign laws & misuse of public money…again.

The Age reports that Labor assistant secretary Nicola Castleman met government MPs in parliament during a sitting week to plan for the upcoming election.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

If only the Vicstasi could grow a dick & balls so they could deal with the Apex gang as adeptly as they dealt with Zoe Bueler.

Zoe Bueler: Posted on Facebook that she was going to the botanical gardens.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 1:22 pm

Zoe to Dan:

“I guess my message for Dan Andrews would be, I hope one day you’ll have your day in court.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 1:22 pm

Salvatore

A clue to the reason they are so union friendly & aloof to actual small businesses may be in the membership:
Members include Mastercard, the NBN Co, & others.

Be fair. Once 5G WiFi takes off, NBN Co will rapidly become a small business. They are just getting in ahead of the decline.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 30, 2022 1:28 pm

In Ballarat Magistrates Court on Tuesday, police withdrew a single charge of incitement to contravene public health directions.

And it seems it was some sort of actual hearing at which she appeared.
Why did it get that far? Why does she have to turn up to Court?
Answer: because it was never about the law, it was about causing as much damage as possible to a critic of Dan Andrews without letting it get to a stage where someone might have to be accountable for it, then pulling the pin.

Old bloke
Old bloke
August 30, 2022 1:29 pm

If you’ve got two hours to spare, this podcast from Alex Christoforou, Alexander Mercouris and Gonzalo Lira on the economic collapse of the West is interesting.

The End of Abundance.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 30, 2022 1:29 pm

Actress Drew Barrymore has been accused of being racist after posting a video of herself laughing and walking in the rain
Barrymore encourages people to get out into the rain more in her video, but another TikTok user said she is trying to ‘dismiss’ black creators
The user accused Barrymore of stealing a trend originating in May that featured black men running around joyously in fields

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 30, 2022 1:30 pm

Nigeria becomes first nation to ban white models in commercials

All advertisements, advertising, and marketing communications materials are to make use of only Nigerian models and voiceover artists, according to the Advertising Regulatory Council of Nigeria.

Johnny Rotten
August 30, 2022 1:31 pm

Dan Andrews should go straight to Jail and not pass GO and collect his $200. No Get Out of Jail Free Card either.

Zatara
Zatara
August 30, 2022 1:32 pm

Reality check: First, nearly 90% of those benefiting from the policy earn less than $75,000, according to the White House.

At least 71% or 336 Biden White House officials earn under the $125,000 threshold and are thus eligible for the student loan boondoggle.

“Hundreds of financial disclosures exposing potential student loan debt have yet to be made public by the White House and federal agencies, the number of Biden officials potentially set to benefit from today’s EO is staggering.”

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
August 30, 2022 1:34 pm

The Air Force Academy has seen a huge year-on-year drop in the number of applicants interested in attending the service academy, amid a historic military recruiting crisis and a drive to boost diversity on campus.

This year, The Air Force Academy saw a 28 percent decline in its number of applicants from last year, according to Air Force Academy admissions statistics obtained by Breitbart News. In 2021, there were 11,615 applicants. In 2022, that number dropped to 8,393.

The drop in percentage of “qualified candidates” tracked by the academy was even more dire — 46 percent, according to the statistics. In 2021, there were 3,279 qualified candidates. In 2022, there were only 1,775 qualified candidates.

However, there were only about 100 fewer actual offers of admission from 2021 to 2022, suggesting a far less competitive selection process and lower quality recruits for an academy known for producing the Air Force’s pilots.

The lack of interest is despite the Air Force Academy actively trying to boost the “diversity” of its candidates by 10 percent, according to a former academy official.

Academy officials blame the lower interest on the coronavirus pandemic.

rosie
rosie
August 30, 2022 1:34 pm

Doesn’t sound like the Dawson judge is going to find beyond a reasonable doubt based on what I’ve read heard so far.

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 1:34 pm

Are student loan payoffs “income?”

The IRS is asking.

Tom
Tom
August 30, 2022 1:34 pm

The biggest threat to human civilisation is not global warming, but global cooling – otherwise known as winter. Tucker Carlson Tonight on the voluntary regression of Europe to the Middle Ages at the behest of political radicals — disciples of the new animist religion now controlling public policy in the West — by making power unaffordable to all but the rich elite.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 30, 2022 1:35 pm

Zali Steggall in your shopping cart & kitchen.

From the Comments

– If it’s not meat, don’t call it effing meat.

It really ought not come as any surprise that Zali has a kinship with other fake stuff.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 30, 2022 1:37 pm

He who spares the wicked injures the good.

— Seneca

Hillary Clinton was unavailable for comment

Kneel
Kneel
August 30, 2022 1:38 pm

“…even worse, the Rocky Horror Picture Show album.”

Sorry to do it, but to quote some lines from “(Let’s Do The) Timewarp (Again)”:

“It’s astounding;
Time is fleeting;
Madness takes its toll.
But listen closely…
Not for very much longer.
I’ve got to keep control.

With a bit of a mind flip
You’re into the time slip.
And nothing can ever be the same.
You’re spaced out on sensation.
Like you’re under sedation.

Somehow seems apropos to the state of things, but I always did have a weird sense of humor 🙂

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 30, 2022 1:39 pm

Emily Townsend and Alex Hillman publicly quit their jobs for climate change.
I stopped watching the ABC and subscribing to The Australian because of their wayward reporting on climate change.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 1:40 pm

Seneca is da man.

Zatara
Zatara
August 30, 2022 1:45 pm

Are student loan payoffs “income?”

For federal income tax no, they wrote that into the bill. But in 13 or so states, unless they change their laws, it’s taxable.

That’s being kept very quiet, perhaps until after the midterms.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 30, 2022 1:47 pm

They didn’t get very far before it broke down, sailing from Portsmouth to the Isle of Wight where it’s now anchored would be like sailing from Fremantle to Rottnest Island.

And they laughed at the Russian carrier.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 1:47 pm

He went inside, contemplating getting a hitman to kill Lyn, but said he changed his mind because innocent people would be hurt

.1 He obviously didn’t see his wife as one of the “innocent people”.
.2 Whether or not he seriously engaged with a “hit man” is perhaps not relevant. If it is accepted that he contemplated it or discussed it, he has kind of sunk any “spur of the moment, crime ‘o passion” mitigation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 1:51 pm

Doesn’t sound like the Dawson judge is going to find beyond a reasonable doubt based on what I’ve read heard so far.

Dunno.
It seems he is accepting a chunk of the circumstantial, but that could just be him being meticulous to appeal-proof his judgement by demonstrating that he has carefully considered all material evidence.
As KD says, if there is one thing JURDGES hate, it is being rolled on appeal because they have overlooked REAL EVIDENCES.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 1:52 pm

2 minutes ago
Dawson in ‘energetic sexual relationship’ with JC
Claire Harvey
CLAIRE HARVEY

The judge said the Crown has established to his satisfaction beyond reasonable doubt that Chris Dawson decided he would leave the relationship with his wife and start a substituted relationship with JC.

The pair were in an “energetic sexual relationship” both before and after Lyn’s disappearance, the judge said.

He accepted the evidence of JC that Dawson made enquiries about renting an apartment, and spoke to his brother about the financial consequences of leaving his wife.

“I am satisfied that Mr Dawson was obsessed with JC and the prospect of losing her,” the judge said.

However, the judge said Mr Dawson’s obsession “is not by itself sufficient to establish the crime” of murder.

He rejected as “fanciful” the suggestion Mr Dawson had considered hiring a hitman to kill his wife before he met JC because they were struggling to conceive children.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 1:58 pm

It seems he is accepting a chunk of the circumstantial, but that could just be him being meticulous to appeal-proof his judgement by demonstrating that he has carefully considered all material evidence.

Lots of this I think, no solid evidence but a lot of “who else had the motive”, a little like the Rainey case.

Which makes me wonder, would the chap be able to have a crack at the podcasters etc for slurring his ‘good name” or will the judge ringfence enough nastiness as proven to discourage such an act?

m0nty
m0nty
August 30, 2022 1:58 pm

Which Cats have ever said that the student debtors don’t include vast numbers of dropouts, gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?

Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Clearly the #danbots are out in force;
Social media commentary is heavily against Zoe Bueler.
Most of it low-IQ.
At best the #danbots are exhibiting a stupefying ignorance of the matter.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 2:00 pm

The plague of Green Elephants

Legend says that if you displeased the King of Siam, he would give you a white elephant. These rare and protected elephants were incredibly expensive to keep.

So a “White Elephant” came to mean a possession that is useless, troublesome, expensive to maintain and difficult to dispose of — like a Sacred Cow, but much bigger.

Today the deluded rulers of the Western world are gifting us and future generations with plagues of Green Elephants — useless, expensive, protected green rubbish.

The biggest green elephants in Australia are the five desalination plants built hurriedly when climate catastrophist Tim Flannery forecast that burning hydrocarbons would create perpetual drought. He forgot La Nina with its cycles of rain and floods for Australia. Flannery’s complex expensive desal plants have largely sat idle.

The sun powers the greatest desalination plant on earth, all for free. If we had spent all that desalination money on dams we could have moderated La Nina flood damage, insulated against El Nino droughts and provided naturally desalinated water for many towns and industries.

Australia was also conned into a war on hydrocarbons by American climate catastrophist, Al Gore, and his animated cartoon. This generated another epidemic of Green Elephants — solar panels, wind turbines, and spider-webs of power lines that squander capital, uglify our landscapes and destroy grasslands, forests, and bird life, as well as destroying our once-cheap and reliable electricity supply. Future generations will be faced with removal and disposal of these Green Monuments to Stupidity.

Another Green Elephant is being suckled in the Snowy Mountains — Snowy 2 Pumped Hydro.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?

Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.

Guilty as charged & proud of it.
Contempt is the only possible moral position on; gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables.

Kneel
Kneel
August 30, 2022 2:07 pm

“…then herd those thousands of cows into Dublin and slaughter them on the steps of parliament.”

Well, I suppose that’s marginally better than herding all the politicians to the slaughterhouse and topping the lot of ’em.
Maybe.
Close call though…

rosie
rosie
August 30, 2022 2:08 pm

“Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.”
I thought you thought the lower classes were the people who never got as far as tertiary education.
Plenty of middle and upper class types doing useless arts with majors in rubbish degrees or not completing their tertiary degrees.

Zatara
Zatara
August 30, 2022 2:08 pm

Intellectual Froglegs has a new video out.

rosie
rosie
August 30, 2022 2:09 pm

Have you run out of terrible Muriel this poor women was prevented from killing her baby by terrible Republicans stories Monty?

Vicki
Vicki
August 30, 2022 2:10 pm

The pair were in an “energetic sexual relationship” both before and after Lyn’s disappearance, the judge said.

Yes – I thought that was pretty adventurous for the judge.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 2:11 pm

The “Great Reset”: A Blueprint for Destroying Freedom, Innovation, and Prosperity

. Notice that no nation has managed merely to print money and tax its citizens on the path to prosperity. Real wealth cannot simply be conjured from thin air. There must be recognized value in what a nation and its citizens possess.

. More than any other source for national wealth, however, one towers above the rest: innovation. The ability of the human mind to create something new and valuable provides society with endless wealth creation…. Innovation is the magic sauce for generating wealth.

. Humans struggling merely to survive in the world do not waste time, labor, or resources on projects that offer no prospect for future reward. Humans working as servants to the state under centrally controlled economies have no incentive to innovate. Only when private ownership and personal liberty combine can human innovation flourish. Freedom is the secret ingredient to innovation’s magic sauce for increasing wealth.

A country whose institutions do not respect property rights or whose customs do not value freedom will remain a barren desert for human innovation

Vicki
Vicki
August 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Doesn’t sound like the Dawson judge is going to find beyond a reasonable doubt based on what I’ve read heard so far.

Yes, I wondered why so much is redacted. It seems a lot of it is connected with statements of witnesses for the Crown. Maybe this is indicative that he will not find guilt beyond reasonable doubt & is redacted to protect witnesses …..maybe.

rosie
rosie
August 30, 2022 2:14 pm

I liked how Townsend said bushfires were caused by climate change not arsonists as those were the only two options.
BTW how does climate change cause bushfire?
Monty can you explain that one, you must know as you voted greens.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 2:14 pm

Monty thinks “gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables” are the lower classes.

From sans culottes to sans Nikes..

m0nty
m0nty
August 30, 2022 2:14 pm

I thought you thought the lower classes were the people who never got as far as tertiary education.

America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 2:14 pm

In a move unprecedented in the democratic world, the Australian Academy of Science is lobbying the tech giants Meta (Facebook), Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Adobe and TikTok to censor and harass any Australians who circulate what the Academy insultingly labels “climate denialism misinformation”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 2:14 pm

A Mar-a-Lago Transgression

Found in Selected Writings of Sir Edward Coke, vol. I
By Sir Edward Coke and Walter Lippman

In 1604, the English the English judge and jurist Sir Edward Coke announced in a “ruling known as Semayne’s Case that there were strict limits on how Sheriffs may enter a person’s house in order to issue writs”: “That the house of every one is to him as his Castle and Fortress as well for defence against injury and violence, as for his repose…”. If the Sheriffs did not follow the correct procedure in issuing writs, then the home owner had the right “to shut the door of his own house” in their faces.

In 1934, the American political commentator Waler Lippman added: “[T]he Englishman’s belief that his house is his castle and that the king cannot enter it, like the American’s conviction that he must be able to look any man in the eye and tell him to go to hell, are the very essence of the free man’s way of life.”

The Method Of Freedom, 1934, pp100-2

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 2:16 pm

Hi there Monty!
good to see you’re around cos I think you’ve missed my question a few times (about 9 times to be precise):

Do you still assert “Trump appointed Reinhart” and that a fundamental rake like this says a lot about your lack of judgement/knowledge?

rosie
rosie
August 30, 2022 2:18 pm

So the real plan is to recompense people caught up in fake degree mills.
Finding that a little hard to believe.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 30, 2022 2:19 pm

m0ntysays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:58 pm
[Which Cats have ever said that the student debtors don’t include vast numbers of dropouts, gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?]

Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.

Well at least you’ve dropped the “talking point demolished” bullshit with which you cemented your status as a ridiculous stooge.

As for “lower classes”, I don’t think of people in such terms. I’ve just described a few categories of student debtors. I didn’t pass any value judgment on them. So what makes you think I hold them in contempt anyway? Projection, much m0nty?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 2:19 pm

2 minutes ago
Dawson in ‘energetic sexual relationship’ with JC
Claire Harvey
CLAIRE HARVEY

Gasp!
JC!
Get in here and explain yourself!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 2:21 pm

rosiesays:

August 30, 2022 at 2:18 pm

So the real plan is to recompense people caught up in fake degree mills.
Finding that a little hard to believe

Fake degree mills which depend solely on government for their accreditation and ability to keep trading.

m0nty
m0nty
August 30, 2022 2:21 pm

That was part of it rosie, not all of it.

The most salient part of it was that it was means-tested, so it was targeted at those for whom college did not lift their earnings enough to get them paying it off.

Morsie
Morsie
August 30, 2022 2:24 pm

About deceased partners I wonder how Glen McGrath’s new wife deals with the celebration of his deceased wife every year.

Rabz
August 30, 2022 2:25 pm

The mother-of-three livestreamed her arrest, showing police handcuffing her in a video that … sparked concerns from the Australian Human Rights Commission.

The latter part of the sentence above is complete horseshit.

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 2:25 pm

Sydney bus news….

This morning I caught the bus into the CBD, the bus was full and very few were wearing face masks. I sat down next to an elderly woman who was wearing a mask. I smiled at her. I don’t know whether she smiled back, because you can’t tell when someone is wearing a mask but she quickly showed she was in a very bad mood and unimpressed with us “unmasked”.

She said…“Dreadful that so many people on this bus aren’t wearing masks.”

I responded…“No, it’s a good thing, nobody is worried anymore and people are getting on with their lives.”

She said…“People are still getting sick, I went to a party last week and four people caught Covid, and people on this bus are spreading Covid. The bus driver should make people wear masks”.

I said…“Firstly, if you’re so worried about Covid, you shouldn’t be going to parties and secondly, stop lecturing me”.

She said…“I’m not lecturing you, I’m telling you”.

I said…“Then get off the bus and walk.”

She said nothing more.

m0nty
m0nty
August 30, 2022 2:25 pm

The trick with the Cat, Lysander, particularly when you are dealing with me, is not to become one of those posters who are indistinguishable from bots, repeating the same things over and over. Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference. They are the Internet equivalent of those dancing fish that you put on your wall which wiggle whenever you click your fingers near them.

Don’t become one of those pathetic losers, if you can help it. Or lean into it, if that’s your thing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 2:26 pm

Judge addresses Dawson’s arguments about trial delay
David Murray
DAVID MURRAY

Justice Harrison has addressed the delay in prosecuting Chris Dawson.

A dominant and understandable theme of Mr Dawson’s defence was that he was at a significant forensic disadvantage due to the extraordinary delay in charging him, the judge said.

Some witnesses had died, and some documents were no longer available.

However, closer examination of the dead witnesses’ evidence suggest that Mr Dawson complaints may be less significant than it at first appeared, Justice Harrison said.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The most salient part of it was that it was means-tested, so it was targeted at those for whom college did not lift their earnings enough to get them paying it off.

This may have a meaning deeper than the one you at first thought.

bespoke
bespoke
August 30, 2022 2:36 pm

Student activists demanding ever more bizarre services played apart in the debt. And I wouldn’t oppose going after the grey money that the university’s hold in trusts.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 2:36 pm

Lysandersays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:34 pm
Are student loan payoffs “income?”

The IRS is asking.

Apparently they are rated as income. Nasty surprise ahead for some.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 2:39 pm

How can some crusty old judge decide if someone is truthful or not?
The premise is ridiculous.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 2:40 pm

According to British media reports, a direct sea shipping container route has been opened for the first time between China and Scotland. And soon, more than 1 million bottles of whisky will leave the west coast of Scotland to be shipped to China through this direct route.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202208/1274167.shtml

CCP crowing about the Scots flogging them grog.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 2:41 pm

m0ntysays:
August 30, 2022 at 1:58 pm
Which Cats have ever said that the student debtors don’t include vast numbers of dropouts, gender studies graduates, all-purpose no-hopers, “activists” and other unemployables?

Your contempt for the lower classes is duly noted.

More likely contempt for the low standard drivel that often passes for a university “education” these days, which seems aimed at those who would never have made it into more “academic” courses.

It’s not as if they were studying economics.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 2:41 pm

War, fatalism, even some heavy drinking:

Here are the modern movies you should watch to understand the mysterious ‘Russian soul’

As Russia celebrates its Cinema Day – RT tells you which flicks deserve your attention

even some heavy drinking: – was invited to the wedding of a Lovely Russian Girl working for me to an Italian (who I also knew)

1. No seating in Russian Orthodox Wedding
2. We were seated on the Russian side at the Reception in Beverly Hills (Sydney) and on every table including the Italian Side were bottles of Gin, Vodka, Rum, Whiskey plus Beer and Wine

Bride’s Father went round every table drinking a Toast, then as we lined up to give wedding presents to Bride and Groom (a Russian Tradition). he had a Toast with every presenter

When she returned from her Honeymoon, I asked how was her Father able to stand after so many Toasts

Practice, She said, to drowning the misery of winters

to Quote

“The greatest pleasure of this people is drunkenness, in other words, oblivion. Poor folk! they must dream to be happy…”

Words that might have been written yesterday, they in fact belong to Astolphe Louis Leonor, the Marquis de Custine, a 19th-century French aristocrat and traveller whose observations on matters Russian, including their love of the bottle, remain trenchant almost 200 years on.

And as we all know, that relationship with alcohol is indeed epic; existential, metaphysical, even. Russia can take your average, half-hearted office party bender and pump it up to Olympian feats of endurance and stupefaction.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
August 30, 2022 2:42 pm

I hope she sues the Andrews government for lots of money.

Zoe Buhler was arrested in her Ballarat home in September 2020 while pregnant.

The mother-of-three livestreamed her arrest, showing police handcuffing her in a video that later went viral and sparked concerns from the Australian Human Rights Commission.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-30/anti-lockdown-protest-charges-thrown-out-ballarat-woman/101385396

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 2:49 pm

m0nty-fa

America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.

If Creepy Joe is going to protect mugs from the effects of their own stupidity, he’s going to need a lot more money. He is replacing one scam with another.

rosiesays:
August 30, 2022 at 2:18 pm
So the real plan is to recompense people caught up in fake degree mills.
Finding that a little hard to believe.

The real plan is to buy some votes, at the taxpayers’ expense. The DemonRats are too cheap to use their own money. That is the real scam here, and m0nty-fa supports it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 2:51 pm

Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference.

Good to see that you are still reading my comments.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 2:55 pm

Alright, Mr DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up.

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 2:56 pm

The trick with the Cat, Lysander, particularly when you are dealing with me, is not to become one of those posters who are indistinguishable from bots, repeating the same things over and over. Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference. They are the Internet equivalent of those dancing fish that you put on your wall which wiggle whenever you click your fingers near them.

Don’t become one of those pathetic losers, if you can help it. Or lean into it, if that’s your thing.

Answer the question shiteater (h/t Tim). Do you agree you made a pre-primary school-level error by saying “Trump appointed Reinhart?”

Go.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 3:03 pm

It is sounding more and more like Dawson is going to be found guilty.
The JURDGE seems to be “satisfied” with a lot of the prosecution stuff.
Could be just making sure he canvasses all possibilities, but he seems to be going further than that.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 30, 2022 3:04 pm

Two of my nephews have been dux of their respective yr 12 high schools. Come from a extra large family, no money to support themselves through uni except part time work like many. Contrast that with the lawyer whose house we brought years ago that I used to go to school with who wanted for nothing. Went to uni only to find some work was required and drugs and partying paid for by daddy was much easier. The surgeon across the road had a wastrel son, failed medicine enjoying drugs and finally spent time in gaol for trafficking rare birds. Of course they could have married up and started a fantasy football site. Imagined class has nothing to do with effort required to succeed. Thats why you’ll always be a failure, no effort.

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 3:06 pm

This ‘counter-offensive’ will go nowhere.

And it’s a walk in the park for Russia?

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 3:09 pm

m0nty says:
August 30, 2022 at 2:25 pm

The trick with the Cat, Lysander, particularly when you are dealing with me, is not to become one of those posters who are indistinguishable from bots, repeating the same things over and over. Posters like BJ and cohenite could be replaced by a few lines of code with no discernible difference. They are the Internet equivalent of those dancing fish that you put on your wall which wiggle whenever you click your fingers near them.

Don’t become one of those pathetic losers, if you can help it. Or lean into it, if that’s your thing.

This is unlike you, Fatboy. That’s because all your views and opinions expressed here on any topic comes from your original thoughts and not Vox or MSBC, right?

You’d have to be the biggest NPC here.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 3:09 pm

America is full of shysters selling diplomas from fly-by-night operators who implode before the students can finish their degrees – but the student debt lingers on for years. Part of Biden’s plan was to absolve the debt from the victims of these scams.

So the answer to “shysters/fly by night/etc” is to allow them to keep their ill gotten gains and dip into the pockets of people who didnt sign up for their courses.

I dont know about anyone else but Im not really seeing any Justice’ done here, just a bailout of scammers.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
August 30, 2022 3:09 pm

CCP crowing about the Scots flogging them grog.

The only thing missing is buggery.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 3:11 pm

mUnty back again like one of those child’s punching clowns. How apt.

Tom
Tom
August 30, 2022 3:12 pm

Lysander, Monty is a professional troll. One of the troll’s favourite tactics — for example, to avoid answering a simple, direct question — is the look-over-there squirrel:

The trick with the Cat, Lysander, particularly when you are dealing with me, is not to become one of those posters who are indistinguishable from bots

My advice is to treat Monty as an excellent source of unintended humour. Trolls like to see themselves as masters of the universe when they’re actually as dumb as dogshit. I mean, leftards like Monty believe boys can be girls and vice versa. Totally retarded.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 3:13 pm

Sourced any good information from the Twitterverse today mUnty? Go straight to the source Crikey.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 3:13 pm

First thing, if the allegation is correct the bloke is a pest who deserves criminal charges.

Grace Tame alleges ‘threats and harassment’ on social media came from her abuser
Former Australian of the year shares screenshots on Twitter purportedly from the now-suspended account of the man who repeatedly abused her in 2010

However…
Cant you mute people on twitter and remove their ability to post on your ID?

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 3:16 pm

Dawson guilty.

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 3:16 pm

Dawson GUILTY!!!

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
August 30, 2022 3:17 pm

Dawson found guilty of murder.

Lysander
Lysander
August 30, 2022 3:18 pm

Lysander, Monty is a professional troll. One of the troll’s favourite tactics — for example, to avoid answering a simple, direct question — is the look-over-there squirrel:

Indeed Tom. Munted has only been asked 10 times now if he still holds the view the Trump appointed Reinhart. A pretty fucking stupid mistake.

My advice is to treat Monty as an excellent source of unintended humour. Trolls like to see themselves as masters of the universe when they’re actually as dumb as dogshit. I mean, leftards like Monty believe boys can be girls and vice versa. Totally retarded.

Totally retarded.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 3:18 pm

Ridiculous.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 3:20 pm

The standard of proof in Australia is now having a journalist getting a bee in their bonnet.

Franx
Franx
August 30, 2022 3:20 pm

What style on the part of vicpol to withdraw charges agains Zoe Buhler on the very day of the hearing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 3:22 pm

What style on the part of vicpol to withdraw charges agains Zoe Buhler on the very day of the hearing.

In situations like this, the state should pick up the tab on the legal fees for the punter impacted.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 3:23 pm

Dawson guilty of wife Lyn’s murder
David Murray
DAVID MURRAY

Former teacher Chris Dawson has been found guilty of murdering his missing wife Lynette.

NSW Supreme Court judge Ian Harrison SC today found Dawson killed Lyn, disposed of her body and then lied for decades to conceal the crime.

Four years after The Australian’s investigative podcast series The Teacher’s Pet detailed the highly suspicious circumstances around Lyn’s decades-old unsolved disappearance, Justice Harrison said he was satisfied beyond reasonable doubt Dawson was guilty.

Dawson’s 10-week trial was held without a jury at his request, to ensure proceedings weren’t tainted by publicity or prejudiced by the long delay in charging him.

The prosecution presented a wholly circumstantial but powerful case, overcoming the hurdle of Lyn’s remains never being found.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 3:24 pm

GreyRanga

Of course they could have married up and started a fantasy football site. Imagined class has nothing to do with effort required to succeed. Thats why you’ll always be a failure, no effort.

Nicely summed up.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 3:25 pm

Dawson may have done it.
Dawson may have been involved if someone else killed her.
He’s probably a horrible prick too.
But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 30, 2022 3:26 pm

Noticed the site of the new Russian Embassy has been taken off them and given to the Ukes. Reason being the Ruskies haven’t done enough work on it. There are sites all over here earmarked for Embassies with nothing ever being done. Yesterday the Uke Ambassador was on about a tent or crowd funding a building. Grifters gotta grift.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 30, 2022 3:28 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 30, 2022 3:28 pm

BJ, I’m learning off the best, Cassie!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 30, 2022 3:30 pm

Dawson trial. Listens all 4 + hours of judges decision process.
Falls asleep for last 30 min of declaration.
Wakes up to find Dawson guilty.

Wow! Wowee!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 3:30 pm

The prosecution presented a wholly circumstantial but powerful case, overcoming the hurdle of Lyn’s remains never being found.

So the long summation by the judge was to try to cover appeals against the guilty verdict.
Id call it a brave judgement.
Probably correct, but brave.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 30, 2022 3:32 pm

Its funny how whenever I read Cassie I hear Stephanie of 2GB fame after someone else mentioned it. Two excellent commenters, hit the nail on the head every time. Both could drive a six inch nail with a tack hammer.

rickw
rickw
August 30, 2022 3:33 pm

But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.

Australia.

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 3:34 pm

Dover

I wouldn’t be overly optimistic Russia will be perceived as the winner in this conflict. They should have taken the place by now… at least ages ago.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 30, 2022 3:35 pm

Munty is perplexed by gender studies, he can feel a willie but when he looks in the mirror he sees a vag.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 3:39 pm

If JC (Dawson’s lover, not our esteemed Cat) was found to be so truthy by old judge, why didn’t she come forward in the 80’s or 90’s?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 3:41 pm

So the long summation by the judge was to try to cover appeals against the guilty verdict.

Also seems that such a long summation is required where there is no jury.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

What style on the part of vicpol to withdraw charges agains Zoe Buhler on the very day of the hearing.

In situations like this, the state should pick up the tab on the legal fees for the punter impacted.

Apparently costs split is “to be worked out by the parties themselves”
If Vikstasi were smart, they’d pay her bill.

Nothing the Vikstasi have done over the past 3 yrs would be grounds for accusing them of being “smart”

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 30, 2022 3:49 pm

Dawson may have done it.
Dawson may have been involved if someone else killed her.
He’s probably a horrible prick too.
But it’s over 40 years ago with no evidence.

True Bern. The judge seemed to see the deception with phone calls (to the pool etc) showed he was bs-ing from the get go. Dawson is a wretch, no doubt. But you’d think there’s still plenty of reasonable doubt about murder. Why the police weren’t chasing this up by about March-April 1982 is beyond me. Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 30, 2022 3:50 pm

If Vikstasi were smart, they’d pay her bill.

Vikstasi aren’t what you’d call a model litigant – what a bunch of savages

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

feelthebern says: August 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm

If JC (Dawson’s lover, not our esteemed Cat) was found to be so truthy by old judge, why didn’t she come forward in the 80’s or 90’s?

Eggzackerly.
Nothing is more reliable or truthy than statements by a former root, especially comments designed to have a deleterious effect upon the reputation & future prospects of the rootee.

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 3:50 pm

“feelthebernsays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm
If JC (Dawson’s lover, not our esteemed Cat) was found to be so truthy by old judge, why didn’t she come forward in the 80’s or 90’s?”

She did, back in the 90’s.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 30, 2022 3:51 pm

BTW how does climate change cause bushfire?

I am still reading Plimers latest work ‘Green Murder’ and he lays out how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth (deserts expand when its cooler) – kinda opposite the narrative .

Kneel
Kneel
August 30, 2022 3:52 pm

“…it was targeted at those for whom college did not lift their earnings enough to get them paying it off.”

Hmm… So that masters in lesbian interpretive dance didn’t lead to a good paying job, eh?
Who knew?
Well, YOU should have. No M0nty, not you – the person taking out a loan to get said degree.

How is it fair that the family that saved and scrimped so their offspring didn’t need a loan, are now required to contribute to their neighbours kids debt – while they were holidaying in a caravan, the neighbour was flying to Bali or where ever, living it up, making their kids take out a loan instead.

Or what about the builders labourer that never went to college and neither do his kids – but he has to pay for someone else’s kids to go for a useless degree that doesn’t even pay enough to cover it’s own cost?

As Dan Bongino succinctly puts it “Pay off your own damn loan!”

Unless, of course, you think it’s OK to take out a loan to buy a mansion, then get everyone else to pay it off because you didn’t get that pay rise you thought you’d get? In which case, if that’s on the cards, where do I sign?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 3:53 pm

I didn’t listen to all the Dawson verdict, but every time I tuned in I thought “He’s definitely leaning towards guilty, or maybe trying to ‘appeal proof’ his verdict by demonstrating he has left no stone unturned”.
As it went on I became less convinced of ‘appeal proofing’.
To be honest, the DPP was never going to appeal a JURDGE only not guilty verdict in a circumstantial case.
The only appeal was likely to be from the defence in the case of a guilty verdict.
Please, let’s not say “no evidence”.
There was a lot of credible circumstantial evidence, corroborated by independent witnesses.
Was it enough?
The JURDGE thought so.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 30, 2022 3:54 pm

Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?

Things were different then, anyone remember the case of Leigh Leigh?

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 30, 2022 3:55 pm

Its funny how whenever I read Cassie I hear Stephanie of 2GB fame after someone else mentioned it. Two excellent commenters, hit the nail on the head every time. Both could drive a six inch nail with a tack hammer.

Stephanie, as erudite as she sounds, comes across as a pompous, North Shore Grand Dame.

Cassie, is far more visceral in her remarks. I mean that in the nicest possible way. She never leaves us in any doubt as to what she thinks. That’s a good thing. I just don’t want to sit on the bus next to her, maskless.

Kneel
Kneel
August 30, 2022 3:55 pm

“…how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth…”

While you’ve got the climate historical data out, check out how the temperature increase is a lagging indicator of less precipitation (certainly true in Oz)
IOW, it’s not that heat causes drought, it’s that drought causes heat!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 30, 2022 3:57 pm

Nigeria becomes first nation to ban white models in commercials

Something similar happened in 1960 when Nigeria gained its independence from the UK.
All Brits working in the British Civil Service in Nigeria were blocked from any promotions that could be taken by locals.
Hazy memories of that time so any corrections are welcome.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 30, 2022 3:59 pm

While you’ve got the climate historical data out, check out how the temperature increase is a lagging indicator of less precipitation (certainly true in Oz)

CO2 lags temperature also!

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 3:59 pm

“True Bern. The judge seemed to see the deception with phone calls (to the pool etc) showed he was bs-ing from the get go. Dawson is a wretch, no doubt. But you’d think there’s still plenty of reasonable doubt about murder. Why the police weren’t chasing this up by about March-April 1982 is beyond me. Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?”

And therein lies the rub. Having listened to the podcast, it’s clear….

1. The local police were in awe of Dawson due to his league celebrity. He was famous, and he and his brother were treated like gods. The police simply couldn’t be bothered following up Lyn’s disappearance. It took almost ten years before a policeman on the northern beaches bothered investigating.

2. What I find so strange and devastating is Lyn’s family, including her mother and father. For a long time after Lyn disappeared, they did nothing and simply swallowed Dawson’s lies. If that had been me, my mother would have spent years harassing Dawson as to where her daughter was and also badgered the police but Lyn’s family were so smitten by Dawson, they believed his lies, despite clear warning signs such as Dawson shacking up with his teenage lover days after Lyn’s disappearance. so her family did nothing for years.

It’s a really tragic story, I have no doubt Dawson did it….with help…and that help wasn’t the teenage lover.

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 30, 2022 4:00 pm

Things were different then, anyone remember the case of Leigh Leigh?

Yes, Tinta, I worked in Newcastle at the time. It was dreadful. The little office I worked in processed all the cardboard school bus passes.

About a month after her murder the system printed out her school bus pass. A little reminder of a little life of great value taken by others who didn’t value life and her dignity at all.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 4:01 pm

Cassie I didn’t know she came forward.
Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 30, 2022 4:02 pm

and that help wasn’t the teenage lover.

bruvvers are bruvvers

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 4:04 pm

“Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.”

I agree.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 4:05 pm

It’s a really tragic story, I have no doubt Dawson did it….with help…

Agree.

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 4:08 pm

“bruvvers are bruvvers”

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 4:09 pm

1. The local police were in awe of Dawson due to his league celebrity.

I agree Cassie.
Homicide didn’t want to touch it and referred it back to local plod as a routine missing persons case.
You can imagine what happened even if some bright-eyed junior officer had started digging.
Some old copper would haul him aside on Monday morning (after spending all Sunday demolishing schooners at the rugby league club) telling him something like, “Listen, son. His missus has pissed off to Queensland with some no-hoper druggie. She’s been rootin’ around behind his back for ages. The poor bloke is left with two kids and he’s got enough on his plate. Leave it.
Not suggesting the cops were willingly corrupt in the brown paper bag sense.
Just asleep at the wheel.
Remember, this was only 5-6 years after “no-fault” divorce was introduced.
Dawson and his ilk would have been outraged that “she would get half of his assets”.

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 4:09 pm

Goodt news.

MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology

A new concept for low-cost batteries
Made from inexpensive, abundant materials, an aluminum-sulfur battery could provide low-cost backup storage for renewable energy sources.

https://news.mit.edu/2022/aluminum-sulfur-battery-0824

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 30, 2022 4:13 pm

Why the police weren’t chasing this up by about March-April 1982 is beyond me. Why didn’t Lynette’s family raise hell then?

At a guess – the Dawson twins mesmerised northern beaches locals (including police, family and friends) with their good looks, rugby league “star” status, and convincing narrative.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 4:15 pm

Something similar happened in 1960 when Nigeria gained its independence from the UK.
All Brits working in the British Civil Service in Nigeria were blocked from any promotions that could be taken by locals.

Something similar did happen when Zambia – formerly Northern Rhodesia – gained independence – the British mining engineers running the copper mines that were the backbone of the economy – were told that their jobs would be done by locals, and it was all downhill from there.. the mines flooded, the machinery broken down, spare parts sold on the ‘black” market…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 4:17 pm

Dawson’s alleged murder motives outlined
David Murray
DAVID MURRAY

Chris Dawson had three alleged motives to kill his wife Lyn.

One was to replace Lyn with his teenage lover. The second was his animosity to Lyn. The third was a desire to avoid the financial consequences and custody issues that would have been associated with a divorce.

The crown said the completely fortuitous and cost free disappearance of the wife he loathed was no coincidence.

Mr Dawson’s defence team denied he had any motive to murder Lyn.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 4:18 pm

Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.

I believe this matter went before two coronial inquests, both of which determined that Lyn Dawson was dead and recommended that Chris Dawson be charged with her murder. It’s not as if the case was run on the basis of the podcast; the police investigation was already well underway after it was realised that the original 1980s investigation was unsatisfactory.

duncanm
duncanm
August 30, 2022 4:22 pm

Rabzsays:
August 30, 2022 at 2:25 pm
The mother-of-three livestreamed her arrest, showing police handcuffing her in a video that … sparked concerns from the Australian Human Rights Commission.

The latter part of the sentence above is complete horseshit.

You are incorrect Rabz.

They were very concerned about how the arrest was handled.

Not by the arrest itself, mind you, but how it was handled.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:24 pm

dover0beachsays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:26 pm
And it’s a walk in the park for Russia?

Not at all.

2 sides to every story – Ukraine’s counter-offensive attempt has failed – Russia

Kiev’s troops suffered great losses in a failed attack ordered by president Zelensky towards Kherson, Moscow says

Ukraine’s much-heralded “counter-offensive” in Kherson has “failed miserably,” the Russian Defense Ministry insisted on Monday, listing estimated losses suffered by Kiev during the operation.

Ukrainian forces had attempted to attack in three directions on orders of President Vladimir Zelensky but made no gains, Moscow explained.

Russian troops caused “great losses” to the Ukrainian attackers during the day’s battles, a statement read. Kiev saw 26 tanks, 23 armored fighting vehicles, nine more armored vehicles, and two SU-25 ground-attack jets destroyed, while more than 560 troops were lost, according to the summary.

Earlier in the day, the Ukrainian outlet Suspilne quoted Southern Command spokesperson Natalia Humeniuk as saying that “offensive actions in various directions” had begun, “including in the Kherson region.” She offered no details, however, saying only that “any military operation needs silence.”

By Monday evening, however, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine mentioned only a Russian attack near the village of Potemkino.

Kiev has been talking about a “Kherson counteroffensive” all summer, while soliciting more weapons and ammunition from its Western backers. In a video address to the people on Sunday, Zelensky vowed that “Ukraine will return” to Donbass – as well as Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Kherson and “definitely to Crimea.”

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 4:25 pm

Old Ozzie

You can’t really believe any side of the war.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:25 pm

OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 at 2:23 pm · Reply
Pentagon admits ‘likelihood’ of Ukrainian shelling near nuclear plant

US officials responded to questions about Kiev’s forces targeting Zaporozhye

A senior US military official admitted on Monday that Ukrainian forces may have struck the area around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, but insisted that this was only in response to Russian fire allegedly coming from the area. Earlier in the day, Russian authorities said a Ukrainian artillery shell damaged the roof of the building storing reactor fuel.

“What I know for sure is that the Russians are firing from around the plant,” the unnamed official told reporters during a background briefing at the Pentagon. “I also know that there are rounds that have impacted near the plant.”

The official said it was “hard to explain, I guess” how the US was monitoring the situation around the nuclear power plant, Europe’s largest.

“And I don’t want to say that the Ukrainians haven’t fired in that vicinity either because I think there’s probably a likelihood that they have, but in good – in a number of cases, it’s returning fire of the Russians

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 4:26 pm

This was published 3 years ago
Timeline of the disappearance of Lynette Dawson
Laura Chung
By Laura Chung
December 5, 2018 — 6.01pm

1965: Chris Dawson and Lynette Simms met at a high-school function when they were both 16. “They were a good-looking couple,” Mrs Dawson’s sister, Pat Jenkins, told the ABC in 2003. “They used to dress beautifully.”

March 26, 1970: The couple married at St Jude’s Anglican Church, Randwick.

1979: Mr Dawson started teaching physical education at Cromer High School on Sydney’s northern beaches.

1980: Joanne Curtis, 16, became Mr Dawson’s student in year 11. Later in the year, the couple began a secret relationship.

October 1981: Following difficulties in Joanne’s home life, she moved into the Dawsons’ family home in Bayview, on Sydney’s northern beaches, at Mr Dawson’s invitation. Joanne spends the next few years between the Bayview property, Mr Dawson’s twin brother’s home and her mother’s home.

Towards the end of the year, Joanne alleged that Mr Dawson had tried to hire a hitman to kill his wife.

January 8, 1982: The Dawsons attended marriage counselling. Mrs Dawson’s friend, Sue Strath, told the ABC in 2003: “I had seen her walking hand-in-hand with him, walking back into work [after the session]. And she was very positive, very hopeful for the future.”

Later that evening, Mrs Dawson’s mother, Helena Simms, called to speak to her daughter. During their chat, Mrs Simms noted her daughter sounded “sozzled”. Greg Simms, Mrs Dawson’s brother, told the ABC in 2003 that Mrs Dawson had said to their mother that “everything is just going to be fine”.

January 9, 1982: Mr Dawson alleged he drove his wife to a bus stop so she could return clothes in Chatswood, The Teacher’s Pet podcast reported.

The family had plans to meet Mrs Simms at Northbridge Baths later that day.

While Mr Dawson, his two daughters and Mrs Simms were at the baths, Mr Dawson received a phone call he alleged was from his wife. He said she needed time away and was going to the Central Coast with some friends.

January 10, 1982: Joanne permanently moved into the Bayview property, sleeping in Mrs Dawson’s bed. The Teacher’s Pet podcast reported Joanne wore Mrs Dawson’s clothes and jewellery.

January 12-26, 1982: Mr Dawson alleged his wife called him several times and she had used her bank card twice.

February 18, 1982: Six weeks passed before Mr Dawson reported to Mona Vale police that his wife was missing.

1983: Mr Dawson sought legal advice to divorce Mrs Dawson. Their divorce is finalised that year.

January 1984: Mr Dawson and Joanne Curtis were married. Mr Dawson reset his first wife’s rings for his new wife. The couple divorced nine years later.

January 2000: Police excavated part of the Bayview property. They uncovered a woman’s pink cardigan that appeared to have been slashed. Forensic testing did not show a positive match for Mrs Dawson’s DNA, The Teacher’s Pet podcast reported.

February 2001: The first coronial inquest was held. Deputy State Coroner Jan Stevenson concluded that Mrs Dawson had been murdered and that her killer was someone she knew. The coroner recommended charges be laid.

The then-Director of Public Prosecutions Nicholas Cowdery, QC, refused to do so because he said there was not enough evidence.

February 2003: A second coronial inquest was held. Coroner Carl Milovanovich recommended laying charges against Mr Dawson.

August 2003: Mr Cowdery refused to prosecute Mr Dawson, citing the same reasons as in 2001.

2015: The NSW Police Force unsolved homicide unit re-investigated Mrs Dawson’s suspected murder.

April 2018: Following extensive investigations, detectives requested the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions to review its brief of evidence.

September 12, 2018: NSW Police dug up the Bayview property but did not find any trace of Mrs Dawson’s body.

December 5, 2018: Mr Dawson was arrested in Queensland and was expected to be charged in NSW over the death of Mrs Dawson. Her nephew David Jenkins tweeted: “I’m shaking. There is a long road in front of us in bringing Lyn home, but this is a big step.”

Mrs Dawson’s disappearance gained worldwide attention following The Australian’s podcast, The Teacher’s Pet. Journalist Hedley Thomas and producer Slade Gibson won a Gold Walkley, Australia’s highest journalism honour, for the podcast this year.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:29 pm

JCsays:
August 30, 2022 at 4:25 pm
Old Ozzie

You can’t really believe any side of the war.

JC,

totally agree, but still like to read both sides – based on Past American Efforts – not much faith in American Propaganda

Re American Incompetence

THE MADNESS OF SLOW JOE, IRAN EDITION (17)

duncanm
duncanm
August 30, 2022 4:29 pm

At a glance, the Judge’s remarks on the Dawson trial sound more like a coroner’s report than a legal finding.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 4:31 pm

Gazprom announces further reductions in gas supply just now.
Most of northern Germany will be mid to low 20’s today.
This shit has to be sorted before winter.
Shit sandwiches for everyone.

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 4:31 pm

“Homicide didn’t want to touch it and referred it back to local plod as a routine missing persons case.
You can imagine what happened even if some bright-eyed junior officer had started digging.
Some old copper would haul him aside on Monday morning (after spending all Sunday demolishing schooners at the rugby league club) telling him something like, “Listen, son. His missus has pissed off to Queensland with some no-hoper druggie. She’s been rootin’ around behind his back for ages. The poor bloke is left with two kids and he’s got enough on his plate. Leave it.””

Umm…yes, and this is what happened when a curious northern beaches copper started rummaging around back in the early 1990’s.

Someone I know went to a north shore high school back in the early 1970’s, Chris Dawson and his twin were the PE teachers there. This person’s description of Dawson and his brother, decades later, was that they were like Greek gods. They would walk into the classroom and people would blink, they were mesmerising.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:36 pm

The FBI: A Campaign Arm of the Democrat Party

“Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity” is the FBI motto. According to the FBI website, this motto, “Succinctly describes the motivating force behind the men and women of the FBI.”

Perhaps a new motto of “Funny Business Incorporated” or “Friendly to Biden Interests” would be more appropriate to their apparent new mission. When did the FBI, the largest and most heavily armed law enforcement agency in America, now inserting itself unconstitutionally into American politics, pivot from fidelity and integrity to partisanship and dishonesty?

Start with the 2016 presidential election. Many are already familiar with Spygate

And influence an election they did. Media Research Center conducted a poll of 1,750 voters in seven swing states and learned that, “One of every six Biden voters (17%) said they would not have voted for him had they known the facts about several of the news stories the national media refused to investigate thoroughly because they might have hurt his candidacy.”

The FBI had the laptop for almost a year and right before the election conveniently declared it Russian propaganda, a falsehood parroted by “51 former intelligence officials.” The FBI, and Big Tech under FBI encouragement, fabricated and spread Russian propaganda in 2016 when it could hurt the Republican candidate and suppressed and censored a real story in 2020 when it could hurt the Democrat candidate. That certainly sounds like election interference.

The Mar-a-Lago raid is a shot across the bow for any GOP presidential candidates for 2024, Trump being the presumptive nominee at this point. Will the FBI ask the DoJ to indict Trump on nonsensical declassification accusations? While they gave candidate Hillary Clinton a pass despite her using an unsecured server and personal email account to traffic highly classified emails?

The FBI is delivering a warning to Trump. Will Governor Ron DeSantis be the next one to have his home raided by the FBI?

We expect this type of behavior from the corporate media, academia, Hollywood, big finance, big pharma, big tech, and other Democrat party constituent groups, but not the FBI and other government agencies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 4:36 pm

Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.

Hear, hear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 4:40 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

August 30, 2022 at 4:04 pm

“Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.”

I agree.

To a point, so do I.
I know people will draw comparisons with the Pell case.
And there are similarities – cold case, only 1-2 central players, no direct eyewitnesses, and therefore a wholly circumstantial case.
However there is one key difference.
In Pell’s case, all of the ancillary ‘second hand’ witnesses (more than 20) virtually constructed a web of exculpatory evidence which was akin to having Mother Theresa as an eyewitness.
In the absence of direct witnesses in the Dawson case, almost all secondary witnesses provided evidence of either pre-meditation, predisposition to violence, or cover-up which, in aggregate, was enough to convince the JURDGE.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:41 pm

Meaningless Things in Life – Melbourne’s coffee order vs Sydney’s, and what we ordered in winter

On cold winter nights Australians turned to Indian food and burgers to warm their bellies, but for coffee deliveries there was a sharp difference between what Melbourne and Sydney picked for their caffeine fix.

Data from food delivery company DoorDash showed 43 per cent of coffees ordered over the app in Melbourne were lattes, but in Sydney it was the cappuccino that took the prize, with 44 per cent of coffees delivered.

The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age collected winter delivery order data from DoorDash, UberEats, and Deliveroo to get a picture of what Australians had brought to their door in the coldest months of the year.

– Melbourne vs. Sydney coffee orders
– Top Milk Choices in Coffee Orders
– Winter 2022 Top Dishes
– Winter 2022 Top Cuisines

will
will
August 30, 2022 4:44 pm

Chris Dawson found guilty

Former teacher Chris Dawson has been found guilty of murdering his missing wife Lynette.

NSW Supreme Court judge Ian Harrison SC today found Dawson killed Lyn, disposed of her body and then lied for decades to conceal the crime.

Four years after The Australian’s investigative podcast series The Teacher’s Pet detailed the highly suspicious circumstances around Lyn’s decades-old unsolved disappearance, Justice Harrison said he was satisfied beyond reasonable doubt Dawson was guilty.

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Them evil European colonizers.

Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice May Be World’s Largest

More than 140 children were ritually killed in a single event in Peru more than 500 years ago. What could possibly have been the reason?

Evidence for the largest single incident of mass child sacrifice in the Americas— and likely in world history—has been discovered on Peru’s northern coast, archaeologists tell National Geographic.

More than 140 children and 200 young llamas appear to have been ritually sacrificed in an event that took place some 550 years ago on a wind-swept bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean, in the shadow of what was then the sprawling capital of the Chimú Empire.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Some memories of yester-year from Zulu’s “timeline” post:
* Dawson received a phone call at the Northbridge baths – must have been a call to the office who then called out “Dawson. Chris Dawson. Phone call”. I’m assuming the rudimentary and expensive mobile phones weren’t part of Chris’ belongings.
* BankCard. The first credit card we were all issued with. Through the mail, whether we needed it or not.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 30, 2022 4:46 pm

John Connor II
August 30, 2022 at 4:14 pm · Reply
British begin moving war planes to civilian airports

Britain is preparing to station combat aircraft in civilian airports for the first time since World War II in response to the Ukraine conflict.

The dispersing of planes across the country will allegedly help the Royal Air Force’s rapid-response units survive attacks on their bases.

The Agile Combat Employment (ACE) scheme was initially intended for potential hotspots overseas, such as the Indo-Pacific, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe.

A trial next month will have Eurofighter Typhoon and F-35 jet fighters based in Norfolk, Lincolnshire, and Scotland “scattered in small groups and based discreetly” in several regional airports with suitable runways.

Other jets and larger aircraft will be based in different areas in times of “imminent crisis.”

https://ussanews.com/2022/08/29/uk-to-move-warplanes-to-civilian-airports-daily-express/

Hardly surprising considering Britain’s willingness to start a nuclear war…

Given it would take just 20 minutes for a Russian ICBM to hit the UK, they’d better not poke the bear too hard…

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 4:47 pm

Saw a Jim’s Ironing franchisee drive past yesterday. The outsourcing of menial tasks is getting out of hand. Had a few mates who had 5 shirts hanging behind the office door most of the time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 4:50 pm

Beyond being circumstantial evidence I do not see any parallel with Pell.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 4:51 pm

The outsourcing of menial tasks is getting out of hand

Don’t knock it – Mme Zulu reckons money spent on a cleaning lady, and an ironing lady, is money well spent.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 30, 2022 4:51 pm

Both the Dawson murder and the Kelli Lane investigation saw Northern Beaches police officers drag their feet instead of investigating.
Must be the slow pace of life in Godsone.

Mater
August 30, 2022 4:53 pm

Don’t knock it – Mme Zulu reckons money spent on a cleaning lady, and an ironing lady, is money well spent.

I already spend money on a cleaning lady AND an ironing lady…and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let her subcontract it out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 5:00 pm

1998: Senior police officer Paul Hulme assigns Lyn Dawson’s file to Detective Sergeant Damian Loone for reinvestigation. Paul had been urged to look into the case by his wife’s friend Sue Strath, Lyn’s friend who had contacted the Ombudsman about the case in 1985. Detective Loone takes over the case but finds that Lyn’s case file is almost empty; all previous documents appear to have been lost.

Part of the time – line in the Oz.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 5:03 pm

dover0beachsays:

August 30, 2022 at 4:50 pm

What was Lynette’s purported reason for going missing? Any proffered in court?

Chris Dawson somehow put it about that she had variously “just pissed off” or “pissed off with some bloke”.
He never advanced any reason as to why he might think that.
He then contrived credit card transactions which purported to have been made by Lyn some weeks after she disappeared.
You have to ask.
Why would he do that?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 30, 2022 5:03 pm

flyingduksays:
August 30, 2022 at 3:51 pm
BTW how does climate change cause bushfire?

I am still reading Plimers latest work ‘Green Murder’ and he lays out how a hotter earth is a wetter earth, and a colder earth is a dryer earth (deserts expand when its cooler) – kinda opposite the narrative .

These conclusions come from observation, which is a much less powerful tool than computer models. Ask any klimate “scientist”, they’ll tell you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Chris Dawson somehow put it about that she had variously “just pissed off” or “pissed off with some bloke”.

Which you could do in the early 1980s. You could go to parts of QLD, WA and all of the NT and effectively disappear.

Try that excuse on for a missing wifey in this day and age and see how far you get.

Johnny Rotten
August 30, 2022 5:09 pm

Them evil European colonizers.

Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice May Be World’s Largest

More than 140 children were ritually killed in a single event in Peru more than 500 years ago. What could possibly have been the reason?

Evidence for the largest single incident of mass child sacrifice in the Americas— and likely in world history—has been discovered on Peru’s northern coast, archaeologists tell National Geographic.

More than 140 children and 200 young llamas appear to have been ritually sacrificed in an event that took place some 550 years ago on a wind-swept bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean, in the shadow of what was then the sprawling capital of the Chimú Empire.

It was the Spanish invaders and they were not Colonisers. They were stealing all the Gold, Silver and Precious Stones, etc, that they could their hands on and shipping it back to Spain. Anyone or anything that got in the way got smashed.

rickw
rickw
August 30, 2022 5:09 pm

This is largely why I’m dismissive of the Kherson counter-offensive.

The Russians are in big trouble.

I believe that Munty is personally leading the Kherson offensive.

Will be going over the top with his boys.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 5:09 pm

believe this matter went before two coronial inquests, both of which determined that Lyn Dawson was dead and recommended that Chris Dawson be charged with her murder.

Correct.
Pretty well the case can be summed up as “justice delayed is justice denied”.
Because the original plod dropped the ball its been 35 years of catching up.

Still uncomfortable with 40 year old well publicized cases etc, but at least they have 2 coroners inquests to back up laying the charges in the first place.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 30, 2022 5:10 pm

I already spend money on a cleaning lady AND an ironing lady…and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let her subcontract it out.

There have been a few WFH stories about software developers in both the UK and US contracting their work to India. Nice gig if you can get it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 5:11 pm

Before the Internet and credit cards it was plausible to just disappear. Don’t like your chances today. Cops still turn up the odd fugitive after decades working for cash in the arse end of nowhere or one of struth’s gigs.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2022 5:11 pm

Anyone or anything that got in the way got smashed.

That explains the 200 dead llamas then.

Indolent
Indolent
August 30, 2022 5:12 pm
Rabz
August 30, 2022 5:13 pm

Not by the arrest itself, mind you, but how it was handled.

Dunc, thanks for picking that up. One twat from Croucher, which doesn’t even mention Ms Buhler’s name and much “concern about the handling of the arrest”.

Shut them down and fire them all, as of yesterday. Absolutely bloody useless fascist hypocrites.

Johnny Rotten
August 30, 2022 5:15 pm

Except that this time it wasn’t the Spanish as they hadn’t got to South America 550 years ago. Columbus didn’t get to the West Indies until 1492. Looks to be an inside job to appease those Gods.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
August 30, 2022 5:17 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

August 30, 2022 at 4:04 pm

“Still, I don’t like these rulings 40 years after the crime.
Slippery slope.”

I agree.

That’s the really troubling thing – whatever’s done will leave an uneasy feeling that justice hasn’t been done. It would be immensely difficult to defend against an accusation that something happened decades ago. But on the other hand how could there be a blanket rule that no case can be brought just because time has passed, no matter how good the case now is?
The only solution is a very consistent approach to whether to bring such a case at all, and if it is brought, a rigorous application of the “beyond reasonable doubt” requirement. I don’t know enough about the Dawson case to say whether that was done.
But clearly it isn’t always.
Much as I would like to see Kathy Sherriff get a proper chance to bring her accusations against the execrable Peanut Head, looked at in isolation one could understand (even if one didn’t agree with) the decision not to prosecute.
But LaborPol (formerly known as VicPol) behaved so differently in relation to Pell than they did to Peanut Head that it’s impossible not to conclude that there was serious police misconduct involved in one or more likely both of those investigations.

duncanm
duncanm
August 30, 2022 5:17 pm

Rabzsays:
August 30, 2022 at 5:13 pm
Not by the arrest itself, mind you, but how it was handled.

Dunc, thanks for picking that up. One twat from Croucher, which doesn’t even mention Ms Buhler’s name and much “concern about the handling of the arrest”.

Shut them down and fire them all, as of yesterday. Absolutely bloody useless fascist hypocrites.

agreed. The AHRC never put out anything official.. just a bit of a murmer from this bird on twitter.

Like you say – fire the lot.

Delta A
Delta A
August 30, 2022 5:17 pm

I already spend money on a cleaning lady AND an ironing lady…and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let her subcontract it out.

Well played, Mater. 🙂

BTW, I’d love to be a fly on the wall if ever Mrs Mater stumbles upon that post.

bespoke
bespoke
August 30, 2022 5:18 pm

I already spend money on a cleaning lady AND an ironing lady…and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let her subcontract it out.

Ditto!!

Cassie of Sydney
August 30, 2022 5:21 pm

In the podcast, in one of the last episodes, there’s a curious anecdote about how Dawson and his brother attended a function at the home of a couple who’d known Lyn, Chris, and the Sims and Dawson families. This function/occasion was about twelve years ag. The person at the function casually asked Chris, having not seen him in decades, “whatever happened to Lyn”? Apparently, Chris looked at his twin brother and the brother said that Lyn ran off to join a religious cult and Chris nodded in agreement. Both of these men are joined at the hip…the brother knows.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 5:21 pm

Because the original plod dropped the ball its been 35 years of catching up.

Two similar cases up here in recent times. Policing in that period could be amateur to the point of incompetence. There are always risks in bringing “cold” cases to trial but prosecutors & judges take that into consideration.

m0nty
m0nty
August 30, 2022 5:22 pm

About the only news you can trust about Kherson is that there is a counter offensive going on. Both sides agree on that much. Beyond that, it’s all propaganda at this point.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 30, 2022 5:23 pm

she disappeared.
You have to ask.
Why would he do that?

She didn’t have any say in the matter

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2022 5:24 pm

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? If Chis Dawson was playing happy families with a schoolgirl, isn’t the age of consent raised to 18 in such a case?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 30, 2022 5:24 pm

why believe it?

Well speculating here.

There would have been an element of “what sort of a loose mole buggers off with a new bloke leaving her kids behind with her saint of a husband”…

Fair bit of milking for sympathy he could have done there.
And as mentioned if her own parents didnt kick up a stink then maybe the story was true… (this being public perception, who knows how much bullshit he laid on them before the disappearance)

Lots of impossible to answer questions now.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 5:25 pm

The evidence in the Pell case was in not compelling, and certainly not beyond reasonable doubt, as was evident to anyone who considered it impartially, as the three Victorian dimwits should have done.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 5:27 pm

Sorry, two dimwits.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 30, 2022 5:29 pm

Sorry, two dimwits.

Excellent quick autocorrect Roger.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 5:33 pm

Excellent quick autocorrect Roger.

Multi-tasking, Toad.

Spag Bol on the boil!

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 5:41 pm

Cassie would you recommend the podcast?
I’m looking for something to binge on.
I resorted to re-starting the Perry Mason reboot, making it two episodes in this time but it stinks.

JC
JC
August 30, 2022 5:50 pm

Bern

Try City on a Hill , showing on Stan. It’s not bad.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Not by the arrest itself, mind you, but how it was handled.

Dunc, thanks for picking that up. One twat from Croucher, which doesn’t even mention Ms Buhler’s name and much “concern about the handling of the arrest”.

It gets even better, in that same statement HRC says (unbelievably) in two consecutive sentences
In times of crisis our rights are as important as ever. … measures to control have required temporary limitations of our rights & freedoms.

Indolent
Indolent
August 30, 2022 5:53 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 5:56 pm

Don’t have Stan.
I can’t keep signing up to streaming services.
I’m already pissed that Paramount plus took Star Trek Discovery from Netflix.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: August 30, 2022 at 5:24 pm

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? If Chis Dawson was playing happy families with a schoolgirl, isn’t the age of consent raised to 18 in such a case?

Dunno the laws of those times in New South.
In mighty Qld today it wouldn’t matter what age the girl (or boy) is, if they are a “client” of the Education Dept & he is a teacher for that Education dept, then regardless of which school either is at, he is subject to summary termination with all the misconduct penalties being applied.

i.e. if a 23yo bloke is a teacher at a state school in Mt. Isa, & on a big weekend in Brisbane shags a 43yo skank at a nightclub, & it transpires she’s an adult re-doing high school at the Mt. Gravatt adult remedial learning centre, then he is in as much trouble as if he snogs one of his 16yo pupils at the school dance.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 30, 2022 5:57 pm

It would be immensely difficult to defend against an accusation that something happened decades ago.

Yep. The main argument is around the quality of the evidence that can be lead on both sides.

WA Cats would be familiar with the Lloyd Rayney case, again circumstantial and heard by an interstate judge sitting without a jury because the victim, Rayney’s wife was a Supreme Court Registrar. He was acquitted. Interestingly I met him at a friends birthday party before it went to trial.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 6:02 pm

I was reading today that one of the reasons people are knowingly using fentanyl in their drug mix is because they’re trying to recreate the same hit from xanax & methadone which one of the preferred combinations.
How fucked up would you have to be.
Seriously.

bespoke
bespoke
August 30, 2022 6:04 pm

I’m already pissed that Paramount plus took Star Trek Discovery from Netflix.

It is so woke and so obviously anti MAGA I reckon the writers could be Monty Python fans.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 6:08 pm

It would be immensely difficult to defend against an accusation that something happened decades ago.

If anything, all things being as they should be, the delay favours the defendant.

The prosecution must prove its case beyond reasonable doubt; with the passing of time it should become easier for the defence to cast doubt on circumstantial evidence, key witnesses may no longer be available, and so on.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 30, 2022 6:08 pm

DC mayor forbids in-person school attendance and remote learning for all unvaccinated students

How terrible that these kids aren’t being taught about 57 genders by drag queens!

I wonder when the obvious will occur: that parents club together and do real educations of their kids in a collaborative home schooling model. The credentials of the HSC etc must be looking less and less meaningful.

Ponygirl, btw, is making apprenticeships in TAFE colleges free. Not sure she quite understands what she’s doing. Breeding class-enemies probably won’t go down well with ALP HQ.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk extends free TAFE and apprenticeships for under 25s until midway through 2023 (Sky News, 29 Aug)

rickw
rickw
August 30, 2022 6:11 pm

About the only news you can trust about Kherson is that there is a counter offensive going on. Both sides agree on that much. Beyond that, it’s all propaganda at this point.

General Muntgumery!

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 30, 2022 6:12 pm

isn’t the age of consent raised to 18 in such a case?

Dawson has been charged with sexual assault or something similar, and has yet to face trial for it, apparently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2022 6:13 pm

There is another angle to the Dawson case, and this might sound like rough justice, but here goes.
If he appeals and is successful, it is unlikely he will have served any unwarranted time in the slot.
He still faces charges of statutory rape, or carnal knowledge of a child as it was known then.
This carries an extra tariff if the offender is (or was) “in loco parentis” as he was as a teacher, and he has virtually admitted that the offence took place. It would be an act of epic stupidity to plead not guilty to that one.
Unlikely he would get less than 2-3 years for that one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 30, 2022 6:13 pm

Star Trek Discovery is some of the darkest shit on TV.
Good watching.

bespoke
bespoke
August 30, 2022 6:16 pm

Burn has crush on the doc in Star Trek Discovery.

Roger
Roger
August 30, 2022 6:16 pm

If anything, all things being as they should be…

If you’re perceived as an enemy of the state in Victoria, things may not be as they should be.

  1. Confirmed that it’s mental health. We live in a society where our educated and compassionate betters expose the general public…

  2. “We know that the offender in the matter suffered from mental health,” Cooke told reporters.We are continuing to work through…

  3. Anal, you despicable piece of shit – you and your government have created this situation where lunatics known to police…

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