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I’m surprised Fake diggeynous bwuce the goothse pascoe hasn’t claimed the diggies were playing gayfl for thousands of years.
“feelthebernsays:
August 31, 2022 at 5:40 am”
Thanks, you’ve said it best.
She wore contact lens in the 80’s?
She was a trooper then.
Seriously, as a lens wearer, it’s the first thing you plan when leaving for an overnight trip, let alone doing a runner.
I was thinking about the theory that Lyn Dawson “just ran off”.
Chris Dawson displayed the level of “smarts” you so often see in schoolteachers, particularly male schoolteachers (think Numbers).
A misguided overconfidence in their own intelligence and ability to manipulate the narrative.
If she had simply disappeared without trace, people might have speculated about suicide.
But no.
The very clever chalkie decided to fabricate sightings, phone calls and credit card transactions to make it appear she was still alive.
Which ultimately provided pieces of circumstantial evidence to convict him.
The reason he got away with it for forty years was not because he was particularly smart. It was because his copper mates ran dead on it, and “lost” what investigative work had been done by others.
Gorby never recovered from the drubbing he received from Frank Drebin.
It was because his copper mates ran dead on it, and “lost” what investigative work had been done by others.
This.
It would be good to have all the plod named & shamed.
Frank Drebin, from a more simpler time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZgmcm7nLjE
Oh and Lyn Dawson didn’t have a driver’s license.
And, as Bear says, the Education Department maaates as well.
You can’t tell me there weren’t parents complaining about these grubs preying on their daughters.
This was even before they had Prince Andrew as a role model.
Guess Rudd might have been stiffed by Elbow on that US ambassador gig. Nothing is showing up yet.
I love cause and effect.
New Jersey banned plastic bags. So, people are stealing grocery store shopping baskets (30 Aug)
Here Coles announced that people can bring their own containers for deli stuff to be put into. Which means they want to ban those clear plastic tubs. I wonder what will happen when someone puts out their cupped hands to get them filled with potato salad, then wander up and dump it onto a checkout to pay for it? Maybe keep the plastic jars Coles people, getting potato salad out of checkout machinery might be expensive and messy.
Coles’ BYO deli container trial met with criticism after supermarket giant bans shoppers from bringing glass Tupperware (Sky News, 26 Aug)
My point there is that there is a difference between someone deserves X and X.
This is a rather tendentious account of events.
You could more accurately describe the ascension of various countries to NATO, which alone do not appear significant but together are, a ‘salami-slicing’ operation.
The Dawson case. The NSW DPP comes off looking very poor in the early 2000s. 2 coroner reports concluded murder and recommended charges be laid. Both times Nic Cowdrey refused to pursue the case.
The WSJ should be charged with aiding the enemy for publishing this news during a time of war.
U.S. Army Grounds Entire Fleet of Chinook Helicopters
The U.S. Army has grounded its entire fleet of CH-47 Chinook helicopters due to a risk of engine fires, U.S. officials said.
If you’re not with us, you’re against us.
The Infamous Trump Raid Affidavit Forced Out by Judicial Watch is Evidence of Biden Admin Corruption
Judicial Watch President @TomFitton discusses why President Clinton was able to keep his presidential records, but President Trump couldn’t. WATCH NOW!
an entire generation of fuckwit woke zombies are in positions of authority and power. what a catastrophe
Re the above, I heard on Neil Oliver’s program that upto 70% of pubs, cafes, and the like might have to shut down in UK because of energy price rises. Madness.
chairman mao nods from the grave
“and some energy companies are refusing to even quote for supply.”
It’s like those stories you read about hyperinflation in Germany in the 1930s.
another article on British pub crisis
m0ntysays:
August 30, 2022 at 10:38 pm
If you find yourself arguing that it was the West that really engineered war in Ukraine and Putin was just an innocent bystander, give yourself an uppercut. What a historically dumb talking point.
To use the techniques of modern j’ismists, “So, what you’re saying is that there was absolutely no western involvement in Ukraine before the eeeevilll Butin invaded early in 2022”?
What a historically dumb talking point.
Gorbmeister was at one stage on the international advisory board of the bank. He’d walk though the NY trading room and one time stood around me to know where the dollar was trading against the Deutschemark and other currencies.
another day, another big pharma con job
“Sorry about your mother’s café but it’s absolutely crucial that gay marriage be legalized in Ukraine.”
I know the tweet is tongue in cheek but it accurately shows the West’s priorities.
I see Debbie Downer was back last night telling Dover how and what to think. Lord almighty.
If anyone wants to subscribe to the theory that she bolted, I suggest they go to the JURDGE’s transcript and read his extensive, meticulous brick-by-brick demolition of that fairy tale.
Lies, damn lies, and cloimet choinge,
The greatest fraud in history started with the idea that you can run an economy on sunshine and breezes.
Sequentially, inevitably, every myth and lie put forward by renewable energy rent seekers and their shrinking band of acolytes gets busted and exposed.
Lines like: wind power is cheaper than coal (it isn’t); the wind is always blowing somewhere (it isn’t); this wind farm will power 30,000 homes (it doesn’t and never will); and that the ‘transition’ to an all renewable energy future is simply inevitable (sure, provided it’s a transition to the Dark Ages that you’re looking for?) – sound even more nonsensical, by the day.
https://stopthesethings.com/2022/08/30/enviro-fraud-why-intermittent-wind-solar-cant-reduce-carbon-dioxide-gas-emissions/
People don’t seriously think she did a runner do they?
He (& others) killed & dumped her.
However, my view still is that judgements like this are slippery slope.
A custodial sentence could have been arrived at by pursuing the underage sex aspect & giving a max sentence on that.
Similar to what the Las Vegas judge did with OJ.
Yep. Suspect this isn’t over yet. Would be a few nervous characters at the NSW Dept of Education.
My recollections of high school from the mid 1960s was that senior girls were considered a perk of the job for male teachers yet reading today’s media you’d think teacher/pupil relations back then was a rarity .. still, whatever suits the narrative, ! suppose ..!
er, the already did…. its a feature not a bug
Can’t believe I’m writing this but I “up-ticked” the Rowe cartyoon this morning .. LOL!
And as bloody usual .. DIDN’T SPELL CHECK … duuuuuuuh!
Sancho Panzersays:
August 31, 2022 at 7:46 am
This.
It would be good to have all the plod named & shamed.
And, as Bear says, the Education Department maaates as well.
You can’t tell me there weren’t parents complaining about these grubs preying on their daughters.
The bolded bit. I look forward to Louse Nilligan pursuing all the education bureaucrats and police who covered up the predatory behaviour.
Including those of any political party who were ministers at the relevant times.
Sorry, silly me. Louse would only pursue the Catholic ones.
Format fail. Down to “their daughters” was Sancho’s comment, and the sentence starting “And, as Bear …” was meant to be bolded.
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You could, if you overlooked the fact that NATO didn’t invade them to make it so.
Did Finland change it’s stance recently towards NATO because of NATOs actions, or because of the Russian penchant to invade everywhere?
That is rhetorical, don’t answer it.
Well done shatterzzz I was about to but fell short by *. * this much
Fair Shake at 7:55.
Cowdery might be a good lawyer, but he sometimes develops a blind spot and will not budge.
I suspect it might be driven by rivalries among egotistical legal eagles.
DB, if countries in the region such as Finland and Turkey were saying: “NATO, we need you to back off, you are destabilising the region and threatening our peaceful relationship with Russia” then you might have some point.
They are not.
Since thr invasion of Georgia they are instead clamouring to join NATO.
culling character to elevate cowardice
cancel culture as the destroyer of worlds
Young doctors in Canada are dying at a rate 23X normal after the second booster
Young doctors in Canada are dying at a rate 23X normal after the second booster
life’s too short for bad coffee and bad cartoons
The danger of lying about mRNA vaccine failure
It’s not exactly what you think
The law against telling the truth, or even expressing a medical opinion.
California Approves Bill to Punish Doctors Who Spread False Information
Remember the servo/small IGA on Sunshine Coast a few months back whose electricity has gone up significantly. He was one of the many “canaries in the coal mine” that we are walking past and ignoring.
Imagine if The Australian had regular articles by Neil Oliver, Mark Stein and Tucker Carlson. For a start the left would go nuts as to much common sense and factual information goes against their beliefs.
“Re the above, I heard on Neil Oliver’s program that upto 70% of pubs, cafes, and the like might have to shut down in UK because of energy price rises. Madness.”
Clarification: Turkey joined in 1952.
DPPs make dozens of these decisions a week against staffing and budget constraints. Courts and the entire justice system is not immune from human frailties. With a couple of notable exceptions, I think they strike a fair balance.
too many people around it seems, not enough volcanoes, for gaia’s sake
Cherman Chermanying
California Approves Bill to Punish Doctors Who Spread
False Informationwrongthink—
fify
Fun fact.
Overnight the US Attorney General broke about a dozen laws designed to protect government whistle blowers.
‘Salami-slicing’ doesn’t require an invasion to be an appropriate description.
Finland and Sweden are not being run by serious people; that has become obvious over the past fortnight.
Looked at the Thibault exit from the F amous B ut I ncompetent. Taking the fall for his bosses. Magically will be on some high paying do nothing job. Anyway, saw this in the comments.
I disconnected my home alarm system and quit the candy-ass Neighborhood Watch.
I bought two Pakistani flags and put one at each corner of the front yard.
Then I purchased the black flag of ISIS (which you CAN Buy on EBAY) and ran it up the flag pole.
Now the local police, sheriff, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, Secret Service, and other agencies are all watching my house 24/7.
I’ve NEVER felt safer and I’m saving $69.95 a month that ADT used to charge.
cant possibly have anything to do with a safe and effective vaccine
Wrong.
Never a better way to get such agencies to ignore your property.
If you want REAL overwatch, run a Confederate flag up the pole.
With the Dawson case presumably over for now, there is another scenario that no one seems to want to touch.
Disclaimer; I have no dog in this fight, but I was once a teenage girl and knew lots of teenage girls.
It is not unknown for teenage girls who have been seduced by the older man, to become delusional about their chances of taking over the marital bed. Especially if there are children involved, as they see themselves as “far better at being mummy” than the real mother.
The girlfriend taking out the missus in not unheard of, quite common actually. Dawson’s squeeze could have belted Lyn Dawson and lucked out in hiding the body.
Google “Long Island Lolita”, for one of the most famous cases.
I saw several silly girls who were infatuated with the guy porking them on the side, bash said Romeo’s missus. They would even bring friends along because the friends were stupid enough and gullible enough to believe the Mills and Boon fantasies.
After third booster started ha ing gall bladder problens .Specialist at hospital told me he had fixed without an operation many preg
Biden Crime Family* – Alleged Leaders, Bosses and Associates
Apologies writing this at U3A and was interrupted,
. specialist said he had cured many pregnant women I said I was not pregnant but still trying.
And pointing to the Ukrainian war as the chief cause is a red herring.
The energy crisis in Europe does seem significantly related to less gas and oil going from East to West.
Interesting theory, Pogria, but I think the timeline rules it out, IIRC. When Lynette ” disappeared” JC (the schoolgirl) was camping in South West Rocks on the Mid-North Coast.
I was referring to the UK, which is a different basket case.
Prices there are much higher than in Germany and were rising well before the war started.
It’s due to market failure, which is to say it’s due to government policy failure.
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Because they don’t want to be invaded by Russia AGAIN?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_between_Russia_and_Sweden
Putting 13 year olds to work is an excellent suggestion – they could clean chimneys or work in factories…
Louis CK coming to Oz.
Tickets booked.
Watch for the pearl clutching to begin.
Sure, but what is the proximate cause of the price rises in 2022? The energy market post-sanctions of Russia is only making the situation in the UK worse than it otherwise would be.
I don’t want to get all “Cromwellian” (you know, cancelling fun things like Christmas and the like) on the Cat but perhaps some betterer informed Cats than I can explain the latin root of the word “fun:”
Divertiri (in Italian divertimente).
Theologically (?), it sounds like “fun” was treated as a “diversion” – in a negative sense? Right?
That is db’s MO at the moment, he also uses this tactic when discussing abortion. He supports one side in a series of posts then when he gets called out he says oh no, that’s their problem, nothing to do with me. Then he goes back to attacking the other side.
It is disingenuous and not subtle, but it’s his blog so whatevs.
Real Deal,
thanks for that info.
Perusal of that list doesn’t often actually indicate Russia ‘invading’ again. In fact, people might wonder why Sweden is often the principal instigator of military operations on the Continent, and not merely against Russia.
‘It feels like enslavement’: This working mom owes $240,000 in student loans. Now she’s fighting for full cancellation to live her American Dream ‘freely.’
A California educator says that she owes more than $200,000 in student loans.
Dr Richelle Brooks, a principal in South LA, has joined the fight to cancel student loan debt for all.
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Don’t forget in the lithium mines, mate.
The law against telling the truth, or even expressing a medical opinion.
California Approves Bill to Punish Doctors Who Spread False Information
In effect, without a special law – the AMA have been doing just that in Oz. Doctors have been disbarred from practice and /or warned against giving advice re the vaccines that is contrary to AMA policy. The new organisation AMPS has been formed to contest this space.
Incidentally, some time ago I read that the anaesthetist at Royal North Shore hospital in Sydney, who was stopped from practising due to his refusal to be vaccinated, has won a case of unfair dismissal. I can’t find the source of this information. Does anybody have a link?
Love this
from the excellent thought bubble at the Bad Cattitude blog (h/t Indolent).
What the war has done is to accelerate the collapse of the British gas market. They were already over-reliant on gas for historical reasons and woefully unprepared to deal with a supply crisis due to a lack of storage and energy alternatives. Sort of like putting all your eggs in one basket and not noticing the basket had holes in it. When wholsale prices began to increase due to the post-covid economic bounce back, smaller retail suppliers (actually brokers) who couldn’t recoup their costs started going bankrupt, leaving larger suppliers to dominate the market. All this was happening 6 months before the war started.
Woops. Formatting fail.
The AMPS has been recognised and referred to by virologist Dr Geert vanDen Bossche:
Geert Vanden Bossche on his substack.
Australian Medical Professionals Society Releases Adverse Events Report of Covid-19 Injection Data
“To date, Adverse Events flowing from these products are at historically unprecedented levels globally and continue to rise. And again, to date, no other drugs in human history have reported more deaths, illnesses, injuries, and disabilities, which number as follows (to 28 June 2022):”
https://npaq-8630368.hs-sites.com/covid-19-an-update-of-evidence-based-information
That is a retarded take. Monty believes that anyone supporting the criminalization of abortion must also answer for and speak on behalf anyone else that supports in whole or part the criminalization of abortion. But that is a non sequitur. He only runs this ridiculous argument so he can say ‘you lot’, speaking of ‘disingenuous and not so subtle’.
I support Dobbs. Does that mean that I support the reasoning in Dobbs or simply its holding that Roe is now overturned. The latter far more than the former, which is obvious from the outset since I’ve argued that abortion isn’t reducible to merely a state’s rights argument, linked to articles critical of Dobbs, and so on.
Min at 6.35am:
Min, I have asked Dover Beach to forward my email address to you.
Cheers.
m0nty-fa
That is db’s MO at the moment, he also uses this tactic when discussing abortion. He supports one side in a series of posts then when he gets called out he says oh no, that’s their problem, nothing to do with me. Then he goes back to attacking the other side.
It is disingenuous and not subtle, but it’s his blog so whatevs.
Oh, poor widdle m0nty-fa is hurties because someone is using leftist tactics against him. Sad, low energy.
PS, you don’t have to put up with it. You can always revive Phat Pussy, and draw the readers there with your brilliant repartee. Homer and Steve from Brissy soon would be there to back you up.
Your clearly deliberate comic orthography of “cartyoon” was much funnier than most Rowe efforts!
I think if you support the people who are doing [x], you should have to defend the publicly stated reasoning of those people who are doing [x], including what their long term plans are if they include [y] and [z] as a consequence of doing [x]. They are not doing it for your reasons, they are doing it for their reasons. I don’t particularly care about your reasons because you’re not the actor in this drama… they are.
Woke NASA and Kamala are a match made in, um, somewhere completely hopeless.
Kamala Harris Launches Another Word Salad During NASA Remarks (30 Aug)
Which is fitting since NASA’s giant white elephant didn’t get off the ground anyway. The launch was scrubbed after another fuel leak.
I think it’s hilarious that after trying to get her interested in something, anything, the Dems finally convinced her to spox for NASA just as NASA lost the last remaining shreds of its mojo.
slug-zilla
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 10:16 am
….
That is db’s MO at the moment, he also uses this tactic when discussing abortion.
Whereas your tactic is wilful and persistent falsehood.
Or maybe you’re just vastly stupid.
Let’s test.
You wilfully and persistently ranted against your strawman of unborn babies being granted “full legal personhood” despite the many explanations given to you of why that was bullshit.
OK, let’s have a really clear compromise.
I’ll settle for legislation that treats unborn babies in exactly the same way as a member of a protected species. Nothing more. (And, yes, there can be exceptions for danger to the mother etc., the exact scope of which is irrelevant to this point because the exceptions in fact reduce the unborn baby’s protection to below that of a protected animal or plant.)
Presumably even you’re not stupid or dishonest enough to pretend that when the Lesser Spotted Backflipping Toad gets put on the protected species register Australia’s complement of “full legal persons” suddenly increases by a few 100’s or 1,000’s. So all your childish fears can be allayed.
But the unborn babies won’t be allowed to be killed.
Happy now? If not, why not?
Hello Monty! You seem especially obsessed this morning. Hump dayitis?
I think if you support the people who are doing [x], you should have to defend the publicly stated reasoning of those people who are doing [x],
So atheists are obliged not to support Christian charities.
You KNOW it makes sense!!!
FMD Pakistan is on the verge of a coup right now.
The punters want Khan back and the public service & diplomatic corps are not carrying out the new governments directions.
Almost a quarter of a billion punters who are not happy.
The government is recalling dozens of ambassadors who are viewed as loyal to Khan & they are not going home.
It is not a strawman, because there are plans underway by Republican lawmakers to make it legal in US states, as part of the movement that got Dobbs into law. Justice Alito made it explicit during oral arguments in Dobbs. It is a live issue.
mUnty still demanding answers and justifications for his own gibberish propositions?
this is where the response should be,
p155 off mUnty … don’t give a jot about the noise in your head
m0nty-fa
I think if you support the people who are doing [x], you should have to defend the publicly stated reasoning of those people who are doing [x], including what their long term plans are if they include [y] and [z] as a consequence of doing [x]. They are not doing it for your reasons, they are doing it for their reasons. I don’t particularly care about your reasons because you’re not the actor in this drama… they are.
Do you mean like the way that pro-abortion “activists” expanded the “time of viability” criterion set out in R v W to include abortion up to the point of birth, sex selective abortion, “genetic” abortion and “lifestyle” abortion in the years since 1973?
Are you willing to defend “their reasons”? Because ” you’re not the actor in this drama… they are”.
The weakness in the above is the conflation of ‘the people’ with ‘doing X’. What I support is opposing abortion, and no where do I unqualifiedly support ‘the people’ who are ‘opposing abortion’ (for instance, I think that viability arguments are dumb, they were dumb when pro-aborts raised them in Roe, and I believe they are dumb when anti-aborts employ them in state legislation, although there may be a prudential argument for their usage). And I can see why you want to argue that whatever my reasons might be for opposing abortion, that they don’t matter. You simply want to publicly silence people that oppose abortion from publicly doing so unless they also want to answer for the reasons that ‘the people who are opposing abortion’ are using, even though they may not be their reasons in whole or part. Finally, this ‘the people who oppose abortion’ is also confounded by the fact that public opponents of abortion do not have a single set of arguments that grounds their opposition to abortion.
PS, can you write the few lines of code needed for a troll-bot to be able to produce this comment for us please. You said yesterday that it would be easy, so demonstrate your brilliance to the world.
Why did she need a doctorate to be a schoolteacher?
m0nty-fa
It is a live issue.
An unfortunate choice of words when writing a pro-abortion comment.
he we go again, Special Counsel mUnty is on the case
FMD!
The ABC playing comments on the death of Gorbachev from the Miss Piggy Keating.
Lots of historical reinvention putting Gorbachev ahead of Yeltsin as the chief agent for change in the Soviet State.
Yeltsin did all the heavy lifting and saved Gorbachev’s arse. Old Gorby tried to keep the union together against the expressed wishes of many states who despised Russian rule.
Boris deserved far more praise than lampooning for enjoying a glass or sixteen.
Silence: no. Shame: yes.
If you want to join the chorus, you are responsible for the song being sung. You may think those different lyrics you are whispering really matter, but to the rest of us looking on you’re part of the chorus and the others drown you out.
Supporting Putin means supporting his actions and motivations, not just sticking up for Russian speakers living in Crimea who don’t like Zelensky. Particularly, you can’t ignore his stated reasons for starting the war, which is to become the new tsar of an expansionist imperial Russia.
Real Deal,
thanks for that info.
Cheers, Pogria.
I know. Totally novel. We would have to go back 50 or so years to encounter the unborn child receiving the protection of the law and having done so we’d uncover a long line of legal reasoning going back over a thousand years wherein the child in utero is not merely protected by law from being deliberately killed, but lawfully the subject of inheritance, and the like. Inconceivable!
Another unfortunate choice of words, LOL.
Lots of talking points for Munty to handle today, stand back and watch the rake tornado!
Fetal personhood is an extremely radical legal concept, btw. The implications are vast, and would mean the state becomes significantly more invasive, particularly (but not only) in the lives of women. It is a major departure from established precedent, no matter how much you may bleat about the Magna Carta or the Rosetta Stone or whatever.
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 11:04 am
[You wilfully and persistently ranted against your strawman of unborn babies being granted “full legal personhood” despite the many explanations given to you of why that was bullshit.]
It is not a strawman, because there are plans underway by Republican lawmakers to make it legal in US states, as part of the movement that got Dobbs into law. Justice Alito made it explicit during oral arguments in Dobbs. It is a live issue.
We can work together to kill it stone dead m0nty!!! I’m joining you in the fight for progressive values!!! All you have to do is confirm your support for my compromise that “full legal personhood” for unborn babies is totally out of the question, but the equivalent of “protected species” status will be guaranteed to them (subject to danger to the mother exceptions and others to be agreed).
You see m0nty, “full legal personhood” for unborn babies is a bullshit concept whoever thought it up, as was explained to you at great length many times. No-one on this site has argued for it. Everyone who’s referred to it here has rejected it as nonsense. But you keep railing about it. You can’t take “yes” for an answer because that would reveal the hollowness of your opposition to what’s really argued on this site.
Now, come on, commit yourself to the “protected species” plan to defeat the “full legal personhood” rubbish.
Nope, Monty’s not at all in a good mood.
Crimea is about abortion? Okaaay, got it.
The perpetual status of “victim’, the endless air of entitlement.
It’s foetal humanity. Personhood is the expression of the humanity.
It really isn’t and no it wouldn’t. It simply extends, as was once the case a mere 50 or so years ago, the protection of the law to the unborn child, that already applies to every other human being at a later stage of development.
Oz:
Submariners from Australia will be allowed to train inside Britain’s nuclear-powered submarines and access sensitive technology that has been kept secret from foreign nations for decades, it can be revealed.
Although Norwegian and French personnel have been inside British boats they have been restricted from accessing areas beyond the bulkhead, where the nuclear reactor technology is placed.
Under the plans being discussed by British and Australian ministers today, naval officers would be allowed to see nuclear engineering at work for the first time. In an exclusive interview with The Times, Richard Marles, Australia’s deputy prime minister and defence minister, said his country’s submarine crews needed to “evolve” from working on diesel-electric submarines to nuclear-powered ones so they could confront future threats.
“The idea of Australian crew working with either British or American crews to get experience on British or American vessels in the shorter term is what we are seeking to do,” he said. “Having the opportunity for Australian submariners to gain experience on the submarines of either the United States or the United Kingdom is going to be absolutely fundamental.”
From memory some of our submariners did already train with the Brits a few decades back…
Our mob are cribbing the UKs notes..
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/30/uk-manufacturing-sector-insolvencies-rise-by-63-in-year
Insolvencies across the manufacturing sector have soared by 63% since last year ahead of a wave of business failures expected this winter in response to rising energy prices, higher interest rates and falling order books.
The number of firms going bankrupt increased from 893 in 2020-21 to 1,454 in 2021-22, according to Insolvency Service figures analysed by the accountancy firm Mazars.
Many more companies are likely to have voluntarily wound up their companies before running out of credit and becoming insolvent.
Manufacturing groups have warned that thousands of firms stand on a financial cliff edge after negotiating the pandemic, Brexit trade restrictions and more recently skills shortages and rising wage bills.
…
Annette Dolan, managing director of Bath Aqua Glass, said the bill to keep her glass-making furnaces running was scheduled to increase in October from £14,000 to £131,000 a year.
…
with business energy costs rising by an average of 250% in the first quarter of this year compared with the same quarter in 2021
Im sure hiring a million windmill polishers will fill the gap.
We agree.
And yet, that is what Republicans are already doing, like in Georgia.
To abstract from the natural person is to arrive at knowing the unborn as a human being.
monty-fa
You simply want to publicly silence people that oppose abortion from publicly doing so unless they also want to answer for the reasons that ‘the people who are opposing abortion’ are using, even though they may not be their reasons in whole or part.
Silence: no. Shame: yes.
If you want to join the chorus, you are responsible for the song being sung. You may think those different lyrics you are whispering really matter, but to the rest of us looking on you’re part of the chorus and the others drown you out.
I also want to shame you, m0nty-fa. You have not condemned the chorus of pro-abortion “activists” who expanded the “time of viability” criterion set out in R v W to include abortion up to the point of birth, sex selective abortion, “genetic” abortion and “lifestyle” abortion in the years since 1973.
Therefore, by your own words above, you have joined in their campaign for unlimited abortion rights. And don’t forget that some of those “activists” are already pushing for “post-birth abortion”. At what point will your stomach revolt at what you implicitly support?
Aye.
Perisher wasn’t just a ski lodge.
TIL that the first football club to have a Kop was Arsenal.
That must enrage Liverpool fans.
RickW,
you mean like this? 😉
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 11:44 am
You see m0nty, “full legal personhood” for unborn babies is a bullshit concept whoever thought it up, as was explained to you at great length many times.
We agree.
And yet, that is what Republicans are already doing, like in Georgia.
So you’re 100% on board with ridding the world of this concept by instead giving unborn babies a sort of “protected species” status like protected animals or plants?
Yes or no? If “no”, why not? It removes all your concerns about “full legal personhood”.
[NB, in any case, strip the hyperbole and adjectives out of that article you’ve linked to and there’s really nothing left. Much as they try to hide it, it still comes through that unborn babies have had lots of legal protections in law for many years, and that this law won’t make any real difference except to increase the protection against the baby being killed – and that could be done without resort to laws about “personhood” anyway, as should be clear even to you.]
God save the Queen!
Fetal personhood is an extremely radical legal concept, btw.
Yet declaring yourself the opposite sex despite the biological facts is now an approved legal concept.
Not radical at all.
There’s also the dark truth that in many counties abortion is used for gender selection. Best not talk about that.
I don’t really know what you mean by that, Tim N. Explain a bit more please.
You didn’t understand the article.
California’s electric vehicle gamble
By Editorial Board – The Washington Times – Tuesday, August 30, 2022
That’s because President Joe Biden is pushing a tandem goal nationwide, aiming for half the 17 million new U.S. vehicles currently sold to be electric-powered by 2030. That will take more juice – as much as 23% more by 2050, according to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory.
Ominously, the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s Annual Energy Outlook 2022 assumes only a 7% electric U.S. fleet by 2050, and it forecasts a national average electricity growth rate of less than 1% a year until then. With EVs siphoning off most of the expected boost in energy output, and the nation’s population projected by the U.S. Census Bureau to grow by as much as 39% by mid-century, the odds of a coming energy shortfall loom large.
Bewilderingly, just as California goes all-electric, it is undertaking a $445 million joint project with Oregon to tear down four hydroelectric dams generating 169 megawatts of power along the shared Klamath River in order to restore the natural environment for fish.
Memories of blackouts affecting millions of citizens during the scorching summer of 2020 have unnerved California legislators. Unsurprisingly, they are hedging their “green” bets by budgeting hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase electricity from hated fossil fuel plants ahead of their scheduled shutdown next year.
Eyeing the power prognosis, Virginia’s Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin has vowed to reverse Democrat-backed legislation he inherited that is designed to mirror California’s EV policies. “I am already at work to prevent this ridiculous edict from being forced on Virginians. California’s out-of-touch laws have no place in our Commonwealth,” he wrote in a recent statement.
Other states would be wise to wait and watch whether the electric grid can power the current “clean car” craze or Californians end up walking.
you’d think lunatics are in charge, but the reality is more nuanced, it’s deliberate destruction of the west by its enemies, internal and external
m0nty-fa
[NB, in any case, strip the hyperbole and adjectives out of that article you’ve linked to and there’s really nothing left. Much as they try to hide it, it still comes through that unborn babies have had lots of legal protections in law for many years, and that this law won’t make any real difference except to increase the protection against the baby being killed – and that could be done without resort to laws about “personhood” anyway, as should be clear even to you.]
You didn’t understand the article.
Perhaps you didn’t understand the article? Failing Economics 1 and becoming a j’ismist might not provide a full legal education.
More social constructs.
ABC radio pumping up TaliDan’s animal rights legislation, excepting pregnant women in pyjamas of course.
All to “save the environment”
Tucker Carlson: This is an attack on your autonomy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIcwgiCi4WE
Elbow should bring this girl to Australia and have her give an opinion on The Voice.
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I suggest you concentrate on the wars that occurred in the last 200 years, rather than in the 1600’s.
No person shall be compelled to testify against themselves.
No judge or jury can draw an adverse inference against an accused because they refused to testify. Despite that, Dawson’s own words did him in.
Quite a recent development legally speaking.
But spread throughout the world of justice on wings.
Probably a coincidence it was a godsend for defense lawyers, therefore repeat business.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_and_Wales
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https://www.proctorlaw.com.au/criminal-lawyers/right-to-silence.html
By 1978, what we call the Judge’s Rules was adopted by the English Home Office, resulting in there being no adverse inference to be drawn by the tribunal of fact where the defendant didn’t answer police questioning.
This law was adopted by New South Wales, and has been so for the better part of the 20th Century and since. It was enacted into S.89 of the Evidence Act 1995, and apart from it being now “subject to section 89A” remains substantially the same and states –
89 Evidence of silence generally
(1) Subject to section 89A, in a criminal proceeding, an inference unfavourable to a party must not be drawn from evidence that the party or another person failed or refused:
(a) to answer one or more questions, or
(b) to respond to a representation,
put or made to the party or other person by an investigating official who at that time was performing functions in connection with the investigation of the commission, or possible commission, of an offence.
(2) Evidence of that kind is not admissible if it can only be used to draw such an inference.
(3) Subsection (1) does not prevent use of the evidence to prove that the party or other person failed or refused to answer the question or to respond to the representation if the failure or refusal is a fact in issue in the proceeding.
(4) In this section:
“inference” includes:
(a) an inference of consciousness of guilt, or
(b) an inference relevant to a party’s credibility.
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It used to be the case you could remain silent but it was considered damaging to your credibility.
in the what could possibly go wrong files
Dad (RAN) spent two years on Brit subs 67 – 68.
At least she didn’t win a Darwin Award.
Close but no cigar.
The eighty year anniversary of Americans and Australians dying to keep the Solomons free of tyranny is this month. Not much gratitude on display.
America’s new newspaper of record (the Bee) has a full expansion.
A female astronaut forgot to fill it up with fuel after the last trip.
expansion s/b explanation.
IIRC, RAN personnel went to the UK in the 60s and 70s to, amongst other things, practice escaping from a disabled sub in a training tower somewhere in the UK.
Walk in at ground level, then perform exit manoeuvres before ascending to the surface at the top of the water-filled tower.
I think WA has such a facility now.
A submariner’s life is not for the faint hearted.
Munty in Wonderland, it means whatever I want it to mean.
I’m sure its nothing….
Solomon Islands say they’re trying to work out a new way of docking vessels.
Funny buggers or for reals?
I don’t trust PM Soggy-varies much.
Actually, its quite the opposite (from Plimers latest book ‘Green Murder’) – subterranean volcanos spew ENORMOUS amounts of CO2 and heat into the oceans – and the ‘models’ are unaware of this!
except, of course, for the poor taxpayer….
DPPs make dozens of these decisions a week against staffing and budget constraints. Courts and the entire justice system is not immune from human frailties. With a couple of notable exceptions, I think they strike a fair balance.
Reality is until around 2005 when the internet really took off “justice” was more based on who you were/knew than guilt or innocence ….. no one could possibly convince me that the drug trade operating 24/7 in this “houso’ estate was a unique one-off! .. they got away with it because it was, pre-internet, kept localized and anyone who should/could have taken action was being paid off quite openly and didn’t care cos they knew they were “untouchable” ..!
As an example take the “turtle” and his ascent to Federal Parliament .. does anyone, today, believe that he would have been promised a Federal seat several years in advance knowing he was a great maate of Phong Ngo and regularly visited him in prison after his conviction .. the victim, John Newman, was in the same local Labor branch as “turtle” .. FFS!
“Houso” tales #101 …….
I did add a far better example than the “turtle” but deleted it .. LOL! .. I reasoned that even after 30 years putting a “real truth” about NSW plod & “justice” on a public forum might not be in my best interests ….!
Putting 13 year olds to work is an excellent suggestion – they could clean chimneys or work in factories…
My great-Grandad went down Lamesley pit, County Durham at 14 years of age .. dug coal until he retired at 65 in 1938 .. died 3 months later .. !
No show without Punch.
From a gay lobby press release that just landed:
LGBTIQA+ COMMUNITY REPS NOT INVITED TO JOBS AND SKILLS SUMMIT
Just.Equal Australia has called on the federal government to include LGBTIQA+ community organisations or representatives in its Jobs and Skills Summit following their conspicuous omission from the list of attendees.
The omission comes despite the fact many LGBTIQA+ Australians experience higher levels of workplace discrimination and have fewer workplace protections.
It is also despite a commitment from Treasurer, Jim Chalmers, that the Summit will address the “unique employment challenges” faced by LGBTIQA+ Australians.
Just.Equal spokesperson, Rodney Croome, said,
“Attendees at the Summit will include representatives of Indigenous people, young people, people with disability, women, single mothers, older people but conspicuously not LGBTIQA+ people.”
“This is despite the fact we face higher than average rates of workplace discrimination and have fewer workplace protections than other Australians.”
After that, eight or nine more paragraphs of whining
do we include the napoleonic wars?
I think it’s the exact opposite
Dawson brothers – what a pair of creeps.
JC’s disclosures published in the MSM around 2018 are unsettling reading.
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 12:07 pm
[So you’re 100% on board with ridding the world of this concept by instead giving unborn babies a sort of “protected species” status like protected animals or plants?]
I don’t really know what you mean by that, Tim N. Explain a bit more please.
It’s illegal to kill a member of a protected species. So if unborn babies are given status at law as a “protected species” it would be illegal to kill them. But they wouldn’t have “full legal personhood” any more than an animal or plant which is a member of a protected species. There could be exceptions to the illegality of killing an unborn baby (e.g. danger to the mother), and there may be other attributes of “protected species” status which aren’t vested in unborn babies.
However this would solve all your worries about “full legal personhood” for unborn babies, but would also solve pro-life people’s worries about unborn babies being killed.
On board or not?
You didn’t understand the article.
I don’t really know what you mean by that, m0nty. Explain a bit more please
Women Are Disproportionately Hurting Our Country
The result is that women are disproportionately active in doing damage to our society.
The most obvious example is education. American schools teach less and indoctrinate more than ever before. Big-city public (and most private) schools are damaging young Americans to an extent and in ways no one imagined just a few years ago. Young children are prematurely sexualized — they are, for example, exposed to “Drag Queen Story Hour” in class and in local libraries from the age of 5. These feature a man dressed as a woman reading and dancing for them.
And who is facilitating all of this? In virtually every case, a woman. Ninety-two percent of kindergarten teachers are women, 75% of all teachers are women and 85% of librarians are women.
And they are teaching young people to despise their country (the creator of the poisonous “1619 Project” is a woman), to feel guilty about their “white privilege” or to think of themselves as victims if they are black. Even worse, they are indoctrinating them in “nonbinary” thinking regarding sex and gender.
And women are disproportionately supportive of cancel culture, the greatest threat to free speech in American history.
Shouldn’t we have an agent or two in the Solomons, dispensing a little sly cash and whipping up the anti-Chinese locals (of which there are many, judging by the damage done to Chinatown in the recent riots) so that we can send in a gunboat or two and, as Wilson said of Mexicans, “teach them to elect good men”.
I imagine the problem would arise when ASIO’s finest hit the ground, ignore the Bat Soupists and begin an immediate quest to expose the Solomons’ garage nazis.
plugging the gaps they themselves created, awesome
gender equality is a civilisational killing agenda
LGBTIQA+ COMMUNITY REPS NOT INVITED TO JOBS AND SKILLS SUMMIT
Sooooo sad! .. shirley, there’ll be enuf room to sit on the floor alongside to “our” Kate and help wiv the crayons and colour-by-numbers handouts … LOL!
“…and the ability to make our own stupid mistakes.”
Something the political class has taken full advantage of – stupid mistakes abound, and with typical political ineptness, failure only indicates “we didn’t go hard enough.”
“Shoot ’em all and let God sort ’em out!” – harsh, but as time passes, ever more appealing.
Bank Australia is in the news for its policy of no longer loaning money for the purchase of internal combustion powered vehicles.
Which bank? This mob, formed by amalgamation of a large number of credit unions, look like green activists running a bank, possibly into the ground. One of their previous notable projects was the creation of a nature reserve in the Wimmera district of the people’s republic of Victoria, which has been locked away from development in perpetuity.
Maddie McMadpants has a modest proposal.
https://poemsforparliament.uk/framework/
The mindset shift to Degrowth will be initiated by ratifying the proposed ‘UN Charter for
Ecological Justice’. The draft Charter is shown overleaf; it cites the elimination of ecological
overshoot as a global aspiration. The UN would also need to formally endorse the Global
Footprint Network and adopt a demographic model which reflects the growing ecological
stress on our world. In this manner the UN can provide inspired and courageous leadership
for the shift from GDP growth to Degrowth. Humanity will subsequently learn the emotional
maturity required to accept that neither our ‘Human Rights’ nor ‘Our Common Agenda’ can
be successfully delivered until we are once more living within the biocapacity of Earth.
If you read this agendas you will say ” but this is lunacy, no sane person thinks this is ok”…
Star letter in the gruinaid today, they think this is fine.
…
Eco-costly Healthcare – In affluent countries huge sums are spent on eco-costly healthcare which prolongs lives beyond their natural span. We are maturing emotionally when we embrace ecological ethics which see Death as a natural process and an important facet in voluntary and equitable Degrowth
….
If the global community can provide basic rations to help all those people who cannot subsist from the land and wish to reskill and change direction, this would break the joint stranglehold that poverty and commerce currently wield, and lift everyone to a subsistence level.
Jim Chalmers the work experience Treasurer is way too fond of saying the deficit is what the Labor government “inherited”, as if no Labor government of any state had anything to do with the cash splurge during the unnecessary but Labor supported lockdowns and restrictions.
This is a silly analogy, since the penalty for killing a protected species is a fine and fetal personhood implies a long gaol stint for murder. You are not being serious.
Jim Chalmers the work experience Treasurer is way too fond of saying the deficit is what the Labor government “inherited”…
Harks back to ye old faithful ….. WINNAS IS GRINNAS ….. LOL!
Jobs summit is a success before it even starts according to elbow.
Let’s not stop there, this is the biggest and best thing since the invention of the segue. Remember what life was like before that? Neither can I . I don’t know how we crawled out of the bush to survive long enough to invent such a thing which has changed so many lives. This jobs summit will be no different..except don’t expect anything to move faster.
the writer must lead by example and volunteer for soylent green post haste
Actually, despite m0nty tugging his little peen about the Georgia amending law, it’s clear from reading the Georgia Code as amended that the relevant amendment falls far short of giving unborn babies “full legal personhood” (assuming that expression to have any definite meaning). It merely defines them as “natural persons”. (The rest of the amending Bill is specifics about abortion.)
What effect their status as “natural persons” will have in any legal context will be revealed by the normal application of legal reasoning, in specific instances, to how that status can apply (if at all) in the particular context in question. No doubt it will frequently be found that the unborn baby cannot have rights applicable to other natural persons. For example the amendment is in a section of the Code which goes on to describe certain rights of “citizens”, but there are no provisions addressing whether unborn babies are “citizens” or not. In fact Georgia can’t make them “citizens”. To be a citizen of Georgia a natural person has to be a citizen of the USA, and the only Constitutional guarantee of citizenship depends on being “born” in the USA. Thus, Georgia would be dependent on Federal law to be able to give an unborn baby the status of a “citizen”.
Zipster
She undoubtedly sees herself at the other end of the mattock handle.
Another year zero here giving me a tingling in my kindling.
ATTN, Chris Bowen.
Hows that 43% reduction going to work out?
The world burnt 8 billion tonne of coal to produce electricity in 2021..if China and India ,alone get back to normal the world will need 5% more. Thats 400. million tonne. Aust. exports 197 million tonne.
“Jobs summit is a success before it even starts according to elbow.”
Awesome – so we don’t actually need to have it then?
All good things must come to an end – indeed, to proceed past the end may result in turning a success into a failure. So, in the name of the “precautionary principle”, we should immediately cancel it, right? Think of it – all the benefits and no costs. The only downside I can see is that it gives politicians some free time to do what they call “thinking”. Best to avoid that process for that group – nothing good ever comes from it.
This is a silly analogy, since the penalty for killing a protected species is a fine and fetal personhood implies a long gaol stint for murder. You are not being serious.
Poor old logic fail m0nty. It’s desperately sad.
I expressly said that “protected species” status was an alternative to “fetal personhood” (not that it was an “analogy” or anything else) and poor old m0nty rails against that by asserting (rather ineptly) that the two things are different from each other. Yes, m0nty, they’re different. That’s the whole point. We can utterly reject “fetal personhood” and instead adopt the totally different approach of “protected species” status.
Poor old mental defective. It’s desperately sad.
Understand now, m0nty? On board with it? Total rejection of fetal personhood? Just “protected species” status, which is a totally different thing? Are you with me?
This may have already been posted. My apologies if so.
AEMO warns of power ‘gaps’ in Australia’s biggest grid within three years as coal exodus gathers pace
Electricity supplies are forecast to fall short of demand within three years in Australia’s eastern grid, according to an official report that labels the need to build new renewable energy and transmission lines as urgent.
In its latest 10-year outlook for the national electricity market, to be released today, the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) warns of reliability “gaps” affecting New South Wales from 2025 and Victoria, Queensland and South Australia by the end of the decade. The warning from the government agency follows a period of turmoil in the market, which has been buffeted by soaring coal and gas prices fuelled by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and higher-than-usual demand.
Central to the upheaval has also been a spate of coal-fired plant outages, which at one stage in June affected a quarter of the fleet in the eastern states. AEMO said those supply pressures were likely to get worse in the coming years as five coal plants closed, taking with them 14 per cent of the National Energy Market’s total capacity.
Further complicating matters is an expected surge in demand amid efforts to electrify big chunks of the economy, such as the transport industry. AEMO chief executive Daniel Westerman said that unless replacement capacity could be built in time, demand was forecast to periodically outstrip supply by 2025.
First hit would be NSW, where major energy retailer Origin has announced plans to close Australia’s single biggest power station, Eraring, in the same year. But Mr Westerman noted the shortfalls were forecast to spread to Victoria from 2028, Queensland from 2029 and South Australia by the beginning of next decade.
“The report reiterates the urgency of progressing generation, storage and transmission developments to maintain a secure, reliable and affordable supply of electricity to homes and businesses,” Mr Westerman said.
There is more if you care to read the full article.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/power-supplies-in-australias-biggest-grid-to-run-short-by-2025/101389018
…I don’t understand why, for weeks now, Munted is so adamant on his abortive rights?
YOU NEED LIPOSUCTION FAT BOY, IT’S NOT A PREGNANCY!
Woohoo , good news week . I just did a quick calculation…if I give up my nicotine addiction and replace it with a heroin habit , I wont need to spend the money I save on rehab. if I die in my dedicated and at my demographic age group.
Personhood gets killed incidentally, or accidentally, in an abortion which, as a fundamental intention, is not about killing a person but about killing the human being who has potential to find existence as a particular kind of person – already happening in utero, as it happens: expectant mothers know a bit about their child in utero, eg., placid, active, etc. Yet although abortion kills a person, the ultimate explanation of abortion is that it is the killing of a human being.
To continue. Aborting a disabled child because the child is disabled would indeed be intended as the aborting of an (imperfect) person, yet ultimately above and beyond killing the person, it would be the killing of a human being. As I understand things.
All I need to do now is find a ‘trustworthy’ dealer.
Geez, but this bloke’s been busy (the Hun):
Once again, it must be someone else’s fault.
Pogria earlier.
Movie from last century based on a true story, starting Nicole Kidman.
Female teacher starts rooting student(s) and concocts a story about how the husband is mistreating her.
Eggs the kids on to kill him.
In the Dawson case, though, I don’t think so. JC was trying to bail out, so unlikely to be her.
I think Dawson did it and was aided and abetted by someone (ahem) “closer to his own age”.
Munties parents had a Gender Reveal, its a girl.
Assaulted a man you say?
Good to see him fighting in his own weight division for a change.
“No doubt” is doing a lot of work there.
May have already been mentioned, but I see that the Victorian parliamentary committee investigating so-called right wing extremism has concluded that the Victorian lockdowns created the matrix for these alleged groups to develop.
The Kidman movie was “To Die For”.
It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Yet when the inevitable happens, politicians will speak of a “perfect storm”, as if a concurrence of factors over which they had no control were to blame.
Any street corner in Northbridge, surely?
Narrative change alert.
The DOJ is now saying it’s an “obstruction” investigation.
The widest of all nets to cast.
So they have nothing.
PT, tanya blathershyte’s hubby is trustworthy and has form.
Madness.
This thing is being designed to fail.
After having a Welcome to Country every morning (as well as ‘Welcome to Morning Tea’, ‘Welcome to the Bathroom’ and ‘Welcome to the Bar’) how do they plan to run the different workshops?
They are already showing them as backwards looking if they don’t employ tranny facilitators who can deftly wield that titillating sly and saucy repartee for which they are so famous:
“That’s a fantastic idea! Why don’t we park it over here. Behind the toilets, and you can…er…fill me in later.”
“Leveraging marginal value-add across alternative markets? Well, that was a mouthful. And don’t I know!”*wink*
“Now look at this pen! How else can we market it besides as something you write with? Well, obviously as a party favour to people who prefer small boys. Ooh, don’t pretend you didn’t think that!”
So every other narrative that was pushed & changed & tested have all fallen over.
“In the Dawson case, though, I don’t think so. JC was trying to bail out, so unlikely to be her.
I think Dawson did it and was aided and abetted by someone (ahem) “closer to his own age”.”
Correct…although my hunch is that the young schoolgirl always knew of the plans to get rid of Lyn. I don’t think she knew the intimate gory details, but she certainly knew something bad was afoot.
JC went to the police in the early 90’s…and told them that Dawson had killed Lyn.
Thought experiment.
Dems have passed “student loan forgiveness”..
What would be the argument against Trump going to the election promising “housing mortgage forgiveness’ (apart from economic vandalism)
Is there any difference, its just another identifiable group being gifted money for nothing.
Why is recognizing the child in the womb as a natural person a ‘bullshit concept’?
All I need to do now is find a ‘trustworthy’ dealer.
Tanya’s hubby’s gotta be yer man! .. if he’s good enuf fer running NSW Public Service his supply is gonna be top-notch!.. getz a 5 stars rating from dum parrot-head …!
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 2:20 pm
No doubt it will frequently be found that the unborn baby cannot have rights applicable to other natural persons.
“No doubt” is doing a lot of work there.
I gave you a specific example. It was easy to find. It was in the section in the Georgia Code immediately after the section you’ve been whining about. So have you got any actual grounds for believing that my statement isn’t accurate?
Now, how about answering the question that you’ve been evading all day?
“Understand now, m0nty? On board with it? Total rejection of fetal personhood? Just “protected species” status, which is a totally different thing? Are you with me?”
To help you, I’ve devised a simple multiple choice response which covers the field.
A. “Yes of course. It’s clear that “protected species” status can be adapted so as not to give unborn babies any sort of “fetal personhood”, but still protect them from being killed, so it solves all my worries about “fetal personhood”.”
B. “No, my peen-tugging about “fetal personhood” was always just a dissembling deflection from the real issue of baby killing.”
Tanya’s hubby…NSW public Service. Got it…Zulu. I’m not sure Northbridge is the place to buy the quality product I’m looking for. But thanks for the heads up.
That was my point earlier.
Typical ‘very smart’ male teacher.
If he let it run, it would have been open to a judge or jury to consider suicide.
His fabrication of subsequent transactions and sightings by ‘friendlies’ ultimately did him in.
Instead of constructing a diversion or an alibi, he partially built the circumstantial case against himself.
About 33% as smart as he thought he was.
Roger says:
August 31, 2022 at 2:26 pm
Yet when the inevitable happens, politicians will speak of a “perfect storm”, as if a concurrence of factors over which they had no control were to blame.
Indeed. Yet it will be those very same politicians and other ‘1%’ who have committed every western government to ‘green energy’ who will luxuriate in their generous lifelong pensions or investments in ‘green’ industries. The majority of those who have made those commitments have already signed the various UN/EU/WEF protocols (in some cases 30 years ago) and would be well on the way to eyeing the retirement door. Those individuals will never be held to account.
Even the current batch won’t be held fully accountable in the sense that they will always have the excuse that they inherited the pre-agreed international protocols and their hands are tied. And, of course, the vested ‘green’ interests, assorted spivs and the MSM will assure us that the planet is sick and any inconvenience from your living in a dark cave is a small price.
I know I’ve said before, ad nauseum, that the decisions have already been made and the 1% simply don’t care about your objections or how much money must be spent.
I don’t know what “natural person” means exactly, there seem to be a lot of phrases that seem interchangeable but are subtly different in operation. I am suspiciously wary.
Beyond that, the devil is in the detail. Lawyers suing the mother on behalf of the fetus for sins against the unborn child is one important such problem – especially for actions taken before the mother knew they were pregnant. All sorts of silly outcomes are possible from this seemingly simple concept. Another big problem is doctors preferencing the life of the child over that of the mother in emergency situations, leading to needless suffering or death of one or both. If you think about it for a while – anathema to you lot, I know – many such scenarios are likely to crop up.
There aren’t any in that list. Even the last in the 1808-9 involves the Russians acting in concert with the Danes and French.
m0ntysays:
August 31, 2022 at 3:05 pm ‘Another big problem is doctors preferencing the life of the child over that of the mother in emergency situations, leading to needless suffering or death of one or both.’
Monty…that sentence makes no sense to a parent in a “real world”, situation. Ask any parent what they would give up to save the life of there born or unborn child?…the answer may surprise you, or…it may not.
Almost happened this Summer.
When the remaining three units at Liddell are shut down in early 2023, pulling 1500MW of dispatchable supply out of the NEM, east coast Australia will be on the brink of supply interruption all the time.
Prices to match.
On a happier note, AGL executives and shareholders will be bathing in champagne. So there is that.
Vic Libs really really do not want to win.I see they are ginning up efforts to dump their Shadow Treasurer David Davis, not that he would be any great loss , but the timing seems somewhat less than auspicious
It’s not a silly analogy for the reason you offer. The fact that the penalties are different is neither here nor there, the point he was trying to make is that the classification provides protections that are conditional. This isn’t to say that I like it. I would have thought the classification ‘protected species’ applies to species at all stages of development, not merely after birth, so I’m not sure anything is gained by establishing such a precedent for human beings.