Open Thread – Tues 13 Sept 2022


The Duke of Marlborough and Prince Eugene Entering the French Entrenchments, Louis Laguerre, early 1700s

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 11:56 am

m0ntysays:
September 15, 2022 at 11:12 am
Geez Tom, is there any topic on which you don’t take the side of cheats and blaggards?

Yes, leftist politics, which is completely comprised of “cheats and blaggards”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

miltonfsays: September 14, 2022 at 8:31 pm

Junkee is a left wing news channel which Qantas was, and maybe still is, showing on screens in their terminals.

Thank you milton.
I’ve never heard of Junkee, though in the era BC (Before Covid) I spent countless hours in Qantas terminals & lounges.
Then again, I don’t pay much attention to screens, except those showing flight departure times.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2022 11:58 am

“I’ve theorised before that much of the motivation for supporting Putin’s invasion of Ukraine among the fringe right”

“but it does help explain why some people have thrown in their lot with an absolute dud in Putin.”

LOL, hey DaStink, if Putin’s a “dud”, what does that make the Sniffer?

Poor DaStink, he comes here and likes to throw around, with gay abandon, smears like “fringe right”. I always find it amusing that lefties like to spend time here, this spooky wooky, far right, neo-Nazi site!

The war in Ukraine has occurred after years of insidious American fiddling, American meddling and stinking American corruption combined with, since January 2021, a venal and very corrupt Biden administration, although the Biden and Democrat Party involvement in Ukraine precedes the Biden presidency by years. Has everyone forgotten the second Trump impeachment? It was like a combustion, bound to blow up and blown up it has, pity the Ukrainian people because they’re the ones who are bearing the brunt of this disaster. Of course, Putin saw his opportunity and moved however what’s interesting is that Putin has also miscalculated and is facing stiffer resistance in Ukraine, courtesy of arms being supplied by the West, no doubt the US military-industrial complex is happy, very happy at the moment. Anyway, we know what happens when the world is compelled to endure a weak America, I remember the Carter years of the late 1970s well, a time when we witnessed a weak and craven America. The immediate aftermath was disastrous and the legacy remains disastrous. The collapse of the Shah saw the emergence of the mullahs and a theocratic Iran, a country that has sponsored global Islamic terrorism and been a menace for four decades. It’s an unsavoury legacy the world is still dealing with forty years later. But what I find interesting and much more concerning is that we are now living in much more unstable times, times that are far worse than what they were forty years ago, at least in 1979, when the Shah fell, America was still culturally strong, now it is sinking under a stinking and very toxic morass of social and cultural rottenness, be it CRT, BLM, transgenderism and so on. This has been enabled by the collapse of the American public school system, a system always flawed but now totally rotten, a a corrupt, violence supporting Democrat Party that bears zero relationship to the party of FDR and JFK, and a biased, complicit and compromised MSM. As I wrote last night, the state of the US depresses me, whilst I see hope in men like DeSantis (someone who, no doubt, DaStink probably thinks is “fringe right”), I’m concerned the Rubicon has been crossed and the collapse of America is inevitable.

That doesn’t make those of us here who see the reality (and nuances) of the conflict as, DaStink likes to smear us, “far-right Putin apologists”, in fact I don’t think anyone here is “pro-war”. Interesting that after one Ukrainian victory, DaStink appears here to scoff, sneer and smear others as “Putin apologists’ and “far-right”. I’m pretty sure commentators like Glen Greenwald, Aaron Matte and George Galloway are NOT “far-right”.

And if this was Trump’s war, you can be guaranteed that, as C.L. wrote on his blog…

“If this was President Trump’s war, the papers would be filled every day with lurid accounts of Ukrainian reversals, failures, mutinies and looting. Stan Grant would be emceeing earnest panel discussions on the morality of backing Nazis and Four Corners would be investigating Zelensky’s offshore accounts.”

Quite so C.L. By the way, those who say that Russia has no right to complain about American and NATO involvement in Ukraine and encroachment on Russian borders should not complain about Chinese encroachment in the Pacific and Indian oceans. And as for those who say that’s a false equivalence, why? Whilst the US is not yet as malignant and corrupt as Xi and the dictatorship in China, it isn’t far off. At least Xi and Putin don’t pretend to be “nice guys”. They’re not “nice”….they’re thugs but so is Biden and the US Democrat Party.

I’m no Putin apologist but I won’t be gas-lighted and verballed into supporting the current fetid US administration with a rotting corpse as its leader, and his speech two weeks ago confirms that he, his administration and the rotten corrupt Democrat party are not interested in the preservation of American democracy, rather, just like Putin and Xi, they are only interested in making the US a one party state.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 12:01 pm

Lysander

So, I demand VOLCANO ACTION NOW.

Play it carefully, and you should be able to get a crowd of half-wit leftist activists from the Slime, various second rate universities, and “social” media out in the streets, waving placards screeching: “Stop volcanoes NOW!” or shouting: “Waddawe want? End volcanoes now. When do we want it? NEEEOOOOW”.

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 12:02 pm

So what happens where a GG (appointed by the people) has “reserve” powers such as being the Chief Commander of all armed forces and decides to go to war? They could argue they have the support of the people right and the Parliament wouldn’t matter?

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 12:03 pm

Arsehole watch

Governor DeSantis Sends two Planes of Illegal Aliens to Martha’s Vineyard

He’s really good.

The vineyard is the playground of the east coast liberal fuckheads.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 15, 2022 12:05 pm

P says: Ron DeSantis Sends Two Planes Of Migrants To Martha’s Vineyard, Follows Through On Promise

That’s slightly annoying – we will be there tomorrow….

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 12:05 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 12:07 pm

Lysandersays:
September 15, 2022 at 12:02 pm
So what happens where a GG (appointed by the people) has “reserve” powers such as being the Chief Commander of all armed forces and decides to go to war? They could argue they have the support of the people right and the Parliament wouldn’t matter?

The GG has to act on the advice of the Executive Council, unless a legal impasse is reached. Such as Whitless attempting to govern without Supply.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 12:08 pm

Hopefully, it’s not too late to undo the mess! .. Sweden’s “right” wing party has won the national election …
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/swedish-prime-minister-resigns-far-right-wins-majority-expected-pm-make-sweden-great/

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 12:08 pm

The GG has to act on the advice of the Executive Council, unless a legal impasse is reached. Such as Whitless attempting to govern without Supply.

But that’s only a convention right BJ?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 15, 2022 12:10 pm

RUS sent in the dam busters.

Dams are built for multiple reasons and all of them positive to the general population.
Blowing dams is an arsehole act and despite the excuse is an act of terror.

Louis Litt
September 15, 2022 12:11 pm

Cassie 10.15 am

Thank you for your psot as well as Speedbox psot last night and BON on this topic.
I must say I am tired, aggrevated by this far fight nonsense. These teenagers who have not left home eg Probyn of ABC – are living their lives as if they are Rick from the Your Ones (Aka silent P).

P
P
September 15, 2022 12:14 pm

The vineyard is the playground of the east coast liberal fuckheads.

Including former President Barack Obama, who bought a multimillion-dollar house there in 2019.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 12:16 pm

Tom at 11:11.
Largely agree, except for the bit about poisoned wells.
There are 18 AFL coaching jobs and about 100 wannabe coaches.
Essendon is a financial powerhouse, has a reasonable list and salary cap headroom. They will be queuing up.
Don’t take any notice of Ross Lyon’s declaration of lack of interest. Truth is, he wasn’t a contender and he got in first.
As for Hird triggering a few ferals like Caro? I suspect that, if they appointed Hird, there will be no objection from those who matter. There has been a noticable softening of attitudes towards Hird of late, with people going out of their way to say the AFL pursuit of him was OTT. This coincides with the spectacular fall from grace of Fat Andy Demetriou, resigning in disgrace from the Crown board and now being an untouchable in corporate Australia, and his protegé, McPolo-Pony on the way out.
Having said that, I don’t think Hird will get the job. I think Adam Yze is the front runner.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 12:19 pm

If you use Urban Dictionary for anything other than comedy value, you place yourself squarely in the ‘dunderhead’ category.

How dare you!

-Offendarazzi

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 12:21 pm

On the topic of footy, I’m glad my Swannies barely rate a mention on any footy show, ever.

The Victorians (particularly including Essendon/Pies) are so far up themselves they think no other clubs exist. Works perfectly for me.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 12:25 pm

Lysandersays:
September 15, 2022 at 12:08 pm
The GG has to act on the advice of the Executive Council, unless a legal impasse is reached. Such as Whitless attempting to govern without Supply.

But that’s only a convention right BJ?

Constitutionally, a government cannot govern without Supply, and cannot spend monies unless they have been appropriated by the Parliament. The choices for Whitlam were to cease spending money, or govern illegally by the mad scheme to borrow billions to pay the government’s bills.

So, not a convention, a Constitutional requirement.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 12:27 pm

JCsays:

September 15, 2022 at 12:03 pm

Arsehole watch

Governor DeSantis Sends two Planes of Illegal Aliens to Martha’s Vineyard

He’s really good.

Imagine their horror if they see a Mexican without a pair of hedge clippers in his hands.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Piggy squeals like piggy does.

Mehreen Faruqi considering human rights commission complaint over Pauline Hanson tweet
Greens senator says One Nation leader created hostile and unsafe workplace and she has since been subjected to racist hate speech by others


Faruqi on Wednesday fired back at the One Nation leader and said the Greens would look to move a censure motion when parliament resumes for normal business on 26 September.

Faruqi said she believed parliament and politics should be a “safe workplace” free from such hostility.

“The kind of racist hate fuelled by these comments cannot go unaddressed. The community, particularly migrants of colour, need to see parliament strongly condemn Senator Hanson without delay,” Faruqi told Guardian Australia.

It is understood Faruqi is considering a complaint to the human rights commission, or the parliamentary workplace support system, over Hanson’s tweet.

“People who look like me have all been told to go back to where they come from at one point or another. I’ve copped it more times than I can count, but the hurt and sorrow it causes never lessens,” Faruqi said.

Luckily you know the problem must be everyone else, not the fact you are an entitled, piggy, COAT.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 12:28 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
September 15, 2022 at 12:10 pm
RUS sent in the dam busters.

Dams are built for multiple reasons and all of them positive to the general population.
Blowing dams is an arsehole act and despite the excuse is an act of terror.

Also prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, as is firing at artillery at, or bombing, a nuclear power plant. Look up words like “releasing dangerous forces”.

Not too many saints on either side in this one.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 12:29 pm

Pauline, more gonads than the entire Liberal party of Australia.

Hanson did not resile from her comments when contacted by Guardian Australia on Wednesday and informed of the potential censure motion.

“Mehreen Faruqi showed extremely poor judgment with her insensitive and highly offensive statement about the Queen and as is so typical of pants-wetting Greens, now that she’s been called out she’s pretending to be a victim. It’s classic ‘Karen’ behaviour: all entitlement and no responsibility,” Hanson said.

“Mehreen Faruqi is not a victim of anything. Faruqi is just another rich, privileged, out-of-touch Greenie faithfully executing her dear leader’s strategy to disrespect and insult the institutions which have helped make Australia one of the most socially inclusive and diverse nations in the world, including the very institutions which allowed her to come to Australia and make it her home.”

Hanson maintained she did not personally attack Faruqi or subject her to discrimination and said the incident did not physically occur in parliament.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 12:29 pm

Why multiple locations

haven’t you noticed! .. it’s soooo 2019-ish to only have ONE tribal affiliation .. two( comma, not hyphened) resound better along with yer .. Proud, Auntie/Uncle (always capitals) additives and very, very “white” surname …!

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 12:31 pm
bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 12:32 pm

Good luck with Putin the shirtless, crusader for Christendom.

Jorge
Jorge
September 15, 2022 12:33 pm

On the Craig Hutchison media conglomerate. It’s turning into a monster. His method seems to be to poach talent from elsewhere such as the estimable Gareth Hall who moved over from RSN in time for the Spring Carnival.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 12:34 pm

Dams are built for multiple reasons and all of them positive to the general population.
Blowing dams is an arsehole act and despite the excuse is an act of terror.

Upticked, for the record.

It’s also an act of desperation, which is a concern.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2022 12:37 pm

Top Endersays:
September 15, 2022 at 12:05 pm
P says: Ron DeSantis Sends Two Planes Of Migrants To Martha’s Vineyard, Follows Through On Promise
That’s slightly annoying – we will be there tomorrow….

Better double-check your booking .. if it’s anything thing like Oz the “migrants” will get priority placement .. LOL!

duncanm
duncanm
September 15, 2022 12:42 pm

Ron DeSantis Sends Two Planes Of Migrants To Martha’s Vineyard

what’s better, there’s a whole resettlement program in place:

Yes, Florida can confirm the two planes with illegal immigrants that arrived in Martha’s Vineyard today were part of the state’s relocation program to transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations,” [said] the governor’s communications director, Taryn Fenske…
“States like Massachusetts, New York, and California will better facilitate the care of these individuals who they have invited into our country’ by incentivizing illegal immigration through their designation as ‘sanctuary states’ and support for the Biden Administration’s open border policies.

Florida’s Republican-controlled state legislature has handed the governor $12m to remove migrants from the state and transport them elsewhere.

Oh.. and check this backhand bullshit at Yahoo news

The migrants could be seen getting off the planes at the island’s airport in a video obtained by Fox News Digital.
… the governor’s communications director, Taryn Fenske, told the right-wing news organisation.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 12:43 pm

Pauline, more gonads than the entire Liberal party of Australia.

She may be a political grifter – heck, aren’t they all? – but she’s always been better value than the rest.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 12:45 pm

Ron DeSantis Sends Two Planes Of Migrants To Martha’s Vineyard

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is high quality trolling.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 12:46 pm

“States like Massachusetts, New York, and California will better facilitate the care of these individuals who they have invited into our country’ by incentivizing illegal immigration through their designation as ‘sanctuary states’ and support for the Biden Administration’s open border policies.”

Magnificent.

areff
areff
September 15, 2022 12:50 pm

Ex-Bulldog Giansiracusa, who has been working for the Dons, would be a worthwhile gamble as Essendon’s next coach — if, that is, Hird doesn’t get the job by way of ameliorating some of the indignities the poor bugger was forced to endure.

Arky
September 15, 2022 1:06 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 1:07 pm

areff at 12:50.
Yes, there are plenty of assistants who could step up, including Giansiracusa or Yze.
They don’t need the likes of Lyon, Scott or Chocko Williams.
As for the events of 2012, that was based heavily on Fat Andy trying to stitch up Hird. Remember, “informed sources” (Caro) told us that all the samples had been sent off to Germany and we would know within a couple of years what was in them. Ten years on … crickets.
My take is that Dank was soaking EFC by running his entire purchasing through the EFC books, including stuff which is used in anti-ageing clinics but illegal for sports. These very common and detectable substances never showed in the players samples.
I think something has surfaced within the AFL recently which has shifted attitudes towards Hird, and this coincides with a less than favourable judicial finding as to Fat Andy’s propensity for truthiness.

Arky
September 15, 2022 1:09 pm

Bought an initial, small position in Lockheed Martin a few weeks ago.

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 1:11 pm

‘Earth is our only shareholder’: Patagonia’s billionaire family transfers retailer’s entire ownership to climate-change efforts
Patagonia billionaire Yvon Chouinard will surrender all ownership of the privately held retailer, valued at about $3 billion, to two entities that will divert profits toward combating climate change

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2022 1:14 pm

RUS did this overnight to make supply, movement, and the like more difficult for UKR troops south of the Ingulets River.

If I understand it correctly, Catholic moral doctrine states that in any attack on infrastructure, the military objective must be balanced against the imperative to not inflict disorder and death on an innocent civilian population.

Arky
September 15, 2022 1:15 pm

Zipster says:
September 15, 2022 at 1:11 pm
‘Earth is our only shareholder’: Patagonia’s billionaire family transfers retailer’s entire ownership to climate-change efforts
Patagonia billionaire Yvon Chouinard will surrender all ownership of the privately held retailer, valued at about $3 billion, to two entities that will divert profits toward combating climate change

..
Almost all their gear is made from synthetic fabrics.
Made from oil.
Offshore and then put in containers and shipped across the world.
If they really believed in this silly shit they would stop trading immediately.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 1:17 pm

Dover

Are you calling the Brits in WW2 terrorists?

The relevant changes to the Geneva Conventions date only from the 1980s/1990s. Different times, different rules.

Arky
September 15, 2022 1:20 pm

Slowly moving out of WHC and NHC into the next big thing: War.

dopey
dopey
September 15, 2022 1:21 pm

Sydney Morning Herald. Important Correction.
In an article “Bondi nearly ‘royal’ after 1954 visit” published yesterday, we said Queen Elizabeth Park was in Croyden. It is in Concord.

mc
mc
September 15, 2022 1:21 pm

The relevant changes to the Geneva Conventions date only from the 1980s/1990s. Different times

if something is illegal, it doesn’t mean it is wrong. If something is legal, it does not make it right.

Mater
September 15, 2022 1:21 pm

Language is not defined in a book anyway. One of the fundamental lessons of post-modernism, that.

Bolshevik Bob gave almost an identical excuse when he refused to admit that “apeing” was not how it is spelt. A ‘Journalist’ and School Principal, wow!

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 1:24 pm

Imagine their horror if they see a Mexican without a pair of hedge clippers in his hands.

LOL.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2022 1:30 pm

“If you’re an Armenian Christian, beggars can’t be choosers.”

Indeed, just ask the Christians in Syria. The West made no attempt to assist them when ISIS was running amok and Christian men and boys were being butchered and Christian women and girls were being enslaved.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 1:35 pm

Im calling it now.
The In-Voice is dead, strangled in its crip by various members of the gimmiredat tribe, largely located in Canberra.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/14/dont-ask-me-to-give-the-queen-a-minutes-silence-ask-me-for-my-truth-about-british-colonialism

Still at least they are fine with relegating Mabo to the rubbish bin..

The “British empire” declared a war on these shores, against this country’s First Nations peoples. This led to massacres. And you want a minute’s silence from me?
….

I’m writing this in solidarity with First Nations people who are triggered by the glorification of our oppressor, to the mothers who will have to listen to people grieving the Queen while living in fear of their babies being stolen and our kids who will have to pay their respects at school despite the British empire’s attempts to wipe us out.

Colonial governments are complicit in continuing the crimes against First Nations people because that is the agenda of the coloniser against First Nations people around the world. To think that people can stand and celebrate that is ignorant and painful.

First Nations people are proud, sovereign people. The British empire tried to wipe us out, but they failed. We are still here and we have an opportunity to do things differently in this country.

We’re one of the few commonwealth countries that doesn’t have a treaty with First Nations people.

Treaty is an end to the war. It’s when we come together to negotiate how we can live alongside each other, peacefully. Treaty will create a new national identity, that we can all feel proud of and a part of.

If we want to mature as a nation, the only mechanism to truly unite us is a treaty. Join us in creating a nation that we can all celebrate.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 1:35 pm

They have no choice but to choose sides you do, Dover.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 15, 2022 1:37 pm

Can’t wait for the Grinning Negro and his fat arse missus to open the curtains in the morning to see the Mexicans playing on Martha’s lawn.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 1:40 pm

The latter has to be proportional to the former.

In the old days they used a slide rule and now an Excel spreadsheet?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 15, 2022 1:44 pm

mcsays:
September 15, 2022 at 1:21 pm
[The relevant changes to the Geneva Conventions date only from the 1980s/1990s. Different times]

if something is illegal, it doesn’t mean it is wrong. If something is legal, it does not make it right.

I remember reading somewhere that there was no significant resentment in Germany about the Dambusters raid – the Germans accepted that the dams were legitimate targets. And since the Luftwaffe were bombing the UK docks and the U boats were trying to blockade merchant ships heading to the UK, they could hardly claim that the rules of engagement for WWII precluded attacks on infrastructure.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 1:45 pm

THE CORRUPTION OF THE HUMAN DIET

Root Cause Medicine is a reaction, a response to an unprecedented tsunami of lifestyle disease washing over the planet. Today, it is ‘normal’ to accumulate a growing list of chronic medical conditions, treated with an ever-growing list of life-long pill prescriptions.

Never before have type II diabetes, hypertension, obesity, cancer, autoimmune disease, psychiatric disease, autism, dementia and infertility been so widespread. Something happened in the early 1970s — a small wave has now become a tsunami.

Modern medical advancements have enabled the treatment of more manifestations of late-stage chronic disease but have done nothing to reduce the accelerating growth rate of new illness.

In fact, such a poor state of global health has arisen despite the freest access to abundant food, pharmaceuticals and medical intervention in the history of the human species. Too few are asking the important questions.

. What are the fundamental root causes of chronic disease?

. Why is the prevalence of obesity and chronic disease continuing to rise?

. Why is the age of onset of illness decreasing?

. What happened in the early 1970s to trigger an acceleration of the chronic disease epidemic?

These are the questions that Root Cause Medicine seeks to answer.

– Genetics and Environment

– Environmental and Evolutionary Mismatch

– Loss of Ancestral Dietary Wisdom

– Corruption of the Human Diet

. The Seventh Day Adventists
. The Invention of Crisco
. The Diet-Heart Hypothesis
. The Closing of the Gold Window
. The American Dietary Guidelines
. Big Pharma and Statins
. The Propaganda of Big Food
. RoundUp, Glyphosate and Monsanto
. The ‘Carcinogeneity’ of Red Meat
. The WEF’s Great Reset

– The Medical-Pharma-Agricultural-Complex

– The Root Causes of Disease

Conclusion

To summarize:

. environmental mismatch is the root cause of chronic lifestyle diseases and the so-called diseases of modernity

. one of the most important mismatches is diet, namely replacing the ancestral diet rich in animal meat, fat and organs with highly processed products of industrial mono-cropped agriculture: refined grains, sugar and seed oils.

. dietary dictates of the past century overwhelmingly reflect the corporate interests of the Pharmaceutical industry, the Food industry and the religious doctrine of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.

In the meantime, think hard about the food you buy, cook and serve to your family. If your ancestors didn’t eat it, you probably shouldn’t eat it.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 15, 2022 1:50 pm

Junkee

They’re having a larf at normal people, shirley.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 1:56 pm

duncanm says:
September 15, 2022 at 12:42 pm

Ron DeSantis Sends Two Planes Of Migrants To Martha’s Vineyard

what’s better, there’s a whole resettlement program in place:

Oh.. and check this backhand bullshit at Yahoo news

From the Comments

Way to go DeSantis, great job! Send them 1000 more loaded flights! Be certain to give them Obamas Marthas Vineyard address…free lawn camping!

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 2:05 pm

Meh!
2/10

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 2:09 pm

. The Seventh Day Adventists

Had one in my class at primary school and neighbours of my Granddad. Pasty as can be, were always sick. Another was foreman of the fitters, he never kept good health either. Don’t know if its common or not but 100% of ones I’ve known didn’t appear to have a good diet.

Johnny Rotten
September 15, 2022 2:10 pm

m0ntysays:
September 15, 2022 at 11:52 am
Oxford Dictionaries doesn’t actually define the word either, but provides a quotation in which the word appears.

Language is not defined in a book anyway. One of the fundamental lessons of post-modernism, that.

No, but spelling and the meaning of words is. There were no previous posts referring to language anyway.

However, Google being the font of all of the known (and unknown) knowledge that has ever existed and ever will exist does have a reference to ‘blaggard’ when searched for.

So there you have it. Google gets it wrong again…………..lol

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 2:10 pm

Russia reacts to US ‘boasting’ about Ukraine involvement

The Pentagon is openly aiding Kiev and bragging about it, the Russian envoy to Washington said

It is cause for “deep concern” that the US government is “openly boasting” that Ukraine’s battlefield successes were achieved with the Pentagon’s direct involvement, the Russian ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Antonov, said in an interview on Wednesday.

“Against this background, Washington’s statements that the US is not a party to the conflict sound absolutely ridiculous and unfounded,” Antonov told RIA Novosti. “Facts and interviews of former and current politicians and generals say otherwise.”

“Videos currently shown on Western channels clearly demonstrate that soldiers and officers who speak fluent English, many with pronounced British and American accents, are fighting against us,” the ambassador added.

The US has done everything to turn Ukraine into a dumping ground for its obsolete weapons, but also a testing range for new NATO equipment, Antonov said, pointing out the insatiable appetite of the US military-industrial complex for profits.

By the Pentagon’s own admission, the US has sent Ukraine “more than $17.2 billion in security assistance” since 2014, and another $14.5 billion since February.

Kiev’s patrons are “hungry for power and money” and not interested in peaceful solutions, said Antonov. There is little to no talk in the West about negotiations, only about sending more weapons to Ukraine, he added.

Medvedev issues apocalyptic warning to West over Ukraine

“Their main main goal is to defeat Russia by any means, and subsequently prevent it from playing a key role in the international arena. And if possible, break it into pieces,” the ambassador said. “They will not stop pushing Ukraine into further suicidal adventures, such as the ‘offensives’ that were doomed from the start.”

“The current situation of Washington inciting Kiev against us is an indisputable, obvious fact,” said Antonov. If the Americans go along with Ukraine’s “insane” demands for long-range rockets, he added, “such a scenario would mean direct involvement of the US in a military confrontation with Russia.”

Even so, this will “not lead to real change on the frontline,” Antonov said, “Only naive, short-sighted politicians who know history poorly can talk about victory over Russia on the battlefield.”

Russia’s mission is to “lay down the foundations of a multipolar world order and send the American ‘rules-based world order’ into the dustbin of history,” and Moscow’s diplomats “have no doubt that we will achieve victory,” he concluded.

P
P
September 15, 2022 2:11 pm

Sydney Morning Herald. Important Correction.
In an article “Bondi nearly ‘royal’ after 1954 visit” published yesterday, we said Queen Elizabeth Park was in Croyden. It is in Concord.

I was there that day and had an excellent view. It was at the time wonderful.

A park fit for a queen

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 2:11 pm

Just remembered we had a receptionist in one of our businesses too that didn’t keep good health. Strange?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 2:11 pm

Germany Weighs Nationalizing Uniper as Energy Crisis Worsens

More government is never the answer.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 2:16 pm

Proportionate here isn’t numerical.

I was just kidding, but you don’t appear to be. Of course proportionate has to have a fundamental numerical basis. How else can anyone make an estimates otherwise.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 2:17 pm

If you use Urban Dictionary for anything other than comedy value, you place yourself squarely in the ‘dunderhead’ category.

Urban Dictionary is the “trusted bloggers” of dictionaries. Yes, we’re laughing at you mUnty.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 2:18 pm

Hey Ozzie, not sure posting RT.com rubbish is useful. You might as well as an Essendon supporter whether James Hird is a good ‘un.

Entropy
Entropy
September 15, 2022 2:20 pm

Adventists are a tad more diverse than that Ranga.
There certainly are adventist vegans because they give it a religious dimension and those can be as nutty as, well vegans.

But most are more about not taking in harmful,stuff like ciggies and alcohol, and either lacto-vegetarian or restricting meat to the Jewish template, which made a lot of sense back in the days of no refrigeration and lack of understanding of hygiene.

But overall, they do tend to live longer than the average person.
Not so much because they have a blessing from the Lord or some such, but I suspect it might be because they tend to be generally temperance minded, conservative middle class people that do take health seriously.

Winston Smith
September 15, 2022 2:21 pm

rickw:

CAC Boomerang back to airworthy:

Marvelous effort on behalf of the teams – both original and restoration.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 2:22 pm

Don’t take any notice of Ross Lyon’s declaration of lack of interest. Truth is, he wasn’t a contender and he got in first.

Ross Lyon is the AFL’s running joke since Damian Dumb entered politics.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 2:24 pm

H B Bear says:
September 15, 2022 at 2:11 pm

Germany Weighs Nationalizing Uniper as Energy Crisis Worsens

More government is never the answer.

Let me say first it’s not the answer in case I’m giving the wrong impression. Do you know what’s going on in Euroweenie land. I read a few days ago that nearly all their utilities are heading into bankruptcy. I suspect the reason is that their participation in the energy markets also forced them to sign up onto wholesale ceiling prices, which they have to adsorb as they can’t pass it onto consumers. They’re pretty fucked.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 2:26 pm

Weaken Germany to strengthen US: Alleged leaked RAND doc outlines plan to destroy Europe as ‘political competitor’

Either this leak is a brilliant piece of technothriller fiction – or it shows that collapse we are experiencing was Made in the U.S.A.

“How can we destabilize Europe?”

“How can we destroy Germany and make life hard for Russia at the same time?”

“How can we seize total control over all people, everywhere?”

Total conspiracy theory questions. Right?

Well, to be sure, what you are about to read may be such good technothriller writing that Tom Clancy would have a run for his money. However, this reportedly comes from none less than the RAND Corporation, which is a real and well-known think tank in California that makes it its business to think about how to do things. All kinds of things.

A few days ago a leaked document from RAND started to appear in the news cycle, even making it to Russia Today. It was a small piece but it did get international attention from RT’s estimated 700 million English-speaking viewers. However, the scope of the story was not delved into very deeply, and understandably so, because it is an alleged leak and one without confirmation, and by the standards of truly good journalism, sources really do need to be verified.

However, having viewed the entire document, it seems necessary to bring its full text to your attention for reading and consideration. We have a link to it here:

And, yes, this is on Yandex, Russia’s Google in essence. Take that as you will. However, the writing is very polished for the most part and it appears to be serious.

Here, though, I want to insert a few notes that make me distrust this document’s authenticity, for your consideration:

There are probably more errors, but these all jumped out at me. Signs of a hoax or signs of something else? We leave it up to you, Dear Reader, to decide.

We only have the Executive Summary, but it is interesting to note the destinations for it. Here is the key for the alphabet soup that we see:

– Executive Summary: Weakening Germany, strengthening the U.S
– Vulnerabilities in German and EU Economy
– A Controlled Crisis
– Expected Consequences

So, there it is. What do you think?

The team at Redacted.inc have a great report on this:

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 2:28 pm

Conspiracy theorists have plenty to work with at the Essendon Football Club.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 2:35 pm

They’re pretty fucked.

They’re beyond fucked. And it isn’t even winter yet.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 2:37 pm

Total conspiracy theory questions. Right?

No, it’s worse than that, it’s fabulism even exceeding the Turtlehead’s nonsense. Trump was warning those German doofi not to sign up to the Russian pipeline and they did.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 2:39 pm

Comment from

Comment from – Weaken Germany to strengthen US: Alleged leaked RAND doc outlines plan to destroy Europe as ‘political competitor’

How to explain Government to an Alien (from Outer Space, not Mexico)

Alien (A): “I’ve traveled across space to check on the progress of your species.”

Human (H): “Cool. Shall I take you to our leader?”

A: “Your what?”

H: “Our leader. The guy in charge.”

A: “The guy in charge of what?”

H: “Well, in charge of everything.”

A: “You have one guy in charge of everything?”

H: “No, no. He’s in charge of Government.”

A: “What is ‘Government’?”

H: “Well, Government makes the rules for us. It tells us what we can do, and what we can’t do.”

A: “So, Government is really smart? They come up with wise rules for you to follow?”

H” “Well, mostly. But some of its rules really are stupid.”

A: “Do you disregard those rules?”

H: “No we have to follow the rules, even if they are stupid or we disagree with them. Government punishes anyone who disobeys the rules.”

A: “So, you are a slave to government?”

H: “No, no. It’s not like that at all. Government works for us, the people. It serves us. We are the boss.”

A: “It tells YOU what to do. And it punishes YOU with violence if you disobey it. And, yet, you’re it’s boss?”

H: “Yeah.”

A: “But there are some things government does that you don’t like?”

H: “Well, yeah. Not everything government does is popular. Like, spending on wars, for example.”

A: “What is a ‘war’”?

H: “It’s when the Government spends the people’s money on weapons and soldiers and sends them over to the other side of the world to kill a bunch of people over there and destroy their country. I don’t like that the Government does this.”

A: “Well. I can see why you might not like that. Have you humans reached the stage where you generally consider stealing, enslaving, and killing each other to be … bad things?”

H: “Oh, yeah! We know that! Don’t steal. Don’t attack. Don’t assault.”

A: “But you give money to Government and they use it to kill people.”

H: “Umm, yeah. But the Government does good things with tax money as well.”

A: “Why don’t you stop paying for the things you don’t like, and only pay for the good things it does?”

H: “No, we can’t do that. You can’t just decide to stop paying taxes because the rules say that everyone has to pay taxes.”

A: “But the rules come from Government, don’t they?

H: “Yes.”

A: “So Government made the rule which said everyone has to pay the money?”

H: “Yes”

A: “So, everyone pays taxes because if they didn’t Government would punish them using violence?”

H: “Yes, but most people don’t mind paying taxes. Most people feel obligated to pay taxes and obey Government laws because it’s for the good of society. Society needs Government so that means we all must pay taxes ”

A: “So, just to make sure I’ve got this straight. Government makes the rules and you feel obligated to follow the rules, even the ones you don’t like. And it tells you what to do and threatens to punish you if you don’t do what it says, and it uses some of the money it takes from you using threats of violence to pay for things you don’t like, and actually think are immoral like, mass murder.”

H: “Yes, but we can ask it to please tell us to do smart things like, please don’t use our money to kill people. We’re allowed to ask them to tell us to do what we want them to tell us to do.”

A: “Are you guys just scared of this thing? Is Government some huge monster which can just squish you at any moment if you disobey?”

H: “No, Government isn’t a monster.”

A: “Well, what is it then? Can you draw me a picture of it?”

H: “Government isn’t really the sort of thing you can draw a picture of.”

A: “Maybe you can take me to it. Where is Government?”

H: “You mean the buildings?”

A: “Government is a building?”

H: “No, but the politicians who make up the Government have buildings they work from.”

A: “So, Government is a group of these politicians?”

H: “Yes”

A: “OK. Then what species are these politicians?”

H: “They’re human.”

A: “Like you??”

H: “Yeah”

A: “So, politicians are human and they’re Government. You’re human, but you’re not Government.”

H: “No”

A: “So it’s the politicians they’re the ones that boss the rest of you around and make you do things you don’t want to do and take your money using threats of violence. But, even though you’re all humans you’re not allowed to boss them around and take their money?”

H: “No, they’d put us in a cage if we did that. But, look, it’s not like the politicians can just do whatever they want. Like, a politician can’t just come up to me on the street and make me give him money. They can’t do that. Politicians can only do things like that in their job when they are working for Government.”

A: “Oh, so politicians aren’t Government. They just work for Government.”

H: “Yeah”

A: “OK. So, Government isn’t a monster, and it isn’t a building, and it’s not politicians. It’s something else. But it employs politicians, who are just regular humans who get to boss everyone else around and take their money. How does a regular human become a politician?”

H: “Well, that’s the great thing about our Government. It’s a Democracy. And that means that the people actually have the power because we get to decide who among us get to be politicians. We get to vote! If a politician starts doing things we don’t like we can just replace them with someone else in the next election.”

A: “So the people that get chosen to be politicians only get to boss people around and take their money for a short time, and then they go back to being regular humans?”

H: “Exactly”

A: “Sounds like a powerful position to be in. But if you get to choose who does that I assume that politicians are always the wisest, most honest, caring and perspective people among you.”

H: “Well, no, not really. I wouldn’t say politicians are known for being honest or wise or caring. And they’re certainly not the most respected people among us. Come to think of it, most politicians are lying power hungry crooks.”

A: “The ones YOU chose?”

H: “Yeah, they’re always doing things we don’t like. They use taxpayers money to enrich themselves and their friends. And they never keep their promises to voters. They’ve been caught stealing and lying and taking bribes. And they mostly do what the big corporations want. Yeah, they’re always doing stuff like that. They’re completely corrupt. They’re a bunch of lying crooks.”

A: “But, … you said that most humans know that stealing and beating each other up and killing are wrong. And you said you have the power because you can change who’s in charge. So why don’t you just replace the lying, thieving, murderous, crooked politicians with some regular people.”

H: “Well, we don’t try to elect lying crooks. It just turns out that way. But we have to have a Government because some humans are nasty and they might kill or enslave or steal. Civilization just couldn’t survive without Government.

A: “Let me get this straight. Because you are worried about the small number of nasty people who are willing to kill and enslave and steal, you think it is necessary for your survival to have a system where some humans among you for a short while get to call themselves the Government and they get to order everyone else around like slaves, and if they want commit mass murder overseas, using money they stole using threats of violence. Politicians get to enslave and kill and steal because if they didn’t … someone else might? And you try to elect good honest people to be politicians but what happens every time is that the people you elect turn out to be corrupt evil lying crooks. That’s your system?

H: “Yup. That’s pretty much Government.”

Speedbox
September 15, 2022 2:41 pm

OldOzzie says:
September 15, 2022 at 2:10 pm
There is little to no talk in the West about negotiations, only about sending more weapons to Ukraine. “Their main main goal is to defeat Russia by any means, and subsequently prevent it from playing a key role in the international arena. And if possible, break it into pieces,” the ambassador said.

Russian Ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Antonov reads the Cat!! These are the very things we’ve been saying for weeks/months.

The US has done everything to turn Ukraine into a…….. testing range for new NATO equipment.

We said that too!! This is getting weird.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 2:41 pm

NRLW player ban for post over Queen ‘over the top’
Staff writers
STAFF WRITERS

The Rugby League Players Association chief executive officer has slammed the NRL’s punishment for player Caitlin Moran that included a one-game ban and a suspended 25 per cent fine for a social media post in relation to the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

The Newcastle NRLW player put the post about the death of the Queen on her Instagram account on Friday.

She deleted the post after about eight hours following heavy criticism online.

Moran’s coach at the Knights, Ronald Griffiths, said the relationship between Indigenous people and the monarch was a complicated one and that many people wouldn’t understand her comments.

But the integrity commission didn’t see it that way, issuing Moran with a breach notice on Tuesday evening that carries a suspended fine that will be activated if she goes against the code of conduct again in the next 12 months.

Players Association chief Clint Newton says the punishment is way over the top for a player who isn’t on a professional contract and will now miss one-fifth of the regular season when a similar penalty would cost an NRL player five games and $250,000 fine if they were on a $1m deal.

Moran, 25, was part of the Australian team who won the 2017 Rugby League World Cup.

She has also represented NSW and the Indigenous All Stars.

Moran has five days to respond to the notice. – Martin Gabor, NCA Newswire

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 2:41 pm

What’s the numerical basis for judging whether the owner’s act was ‘proportionate’. Nothing at all.

Actually there is. The graduated steps the parent took to the end point has a broad numerical basis.

But it’s not a matter of balancing the number killed on both sides, its a matter of judging whether the response to the mortar fire was sufficient to destroy the mortar position but not excessive so as to reduce collateral damage; in other words, proportionate.

Even the above example has a numerical basis. It’s also how algos are developed. It can’t be any other way.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 2:44 pm

H B Bearsays:
September 15, 2022 at 2:22 pm
Don’t take any notice of Ross Lyon’s declaration of lack of interest. Truth is, he wasn’t a contender and he got in first.

Ross Lyon is the AFL’s running joke since Damian Dumb entered politics.

The thing I detest about Lyon and the Scott brothers is, when something goes wrong on the field, they do a very good impression of a fairground clown. You know, the fibreglass ones with the head rolling from side-to-side with the mouth agape waiting for a ping-pong ball. The obvious play for the cameras is that the boys did not follow his instructions. I heard first hand from an ex Freo player that this was rarely the case.
The other thing I hate is that ultra defensive style invented by Roos and Lyon which worked beautifully for ten years for the Swans … right up until the last ten minutes of the 2016 Grand Final.

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 2:46 pm

In the meantime, think hard about the food you buy, cook and serve to your family. If your ancestors didn’t eat it, you probably shouldn’t eat it.

That’s pretty silly. So, if all your ancestors were Italian, which time period of diet do you choose? For example, are you allowed tomato based sauce, given that toms are an introduced food?

If, like many Australians, your ancestors are a mongrel mob, does that mean you get to eat from all of their cuisines? Do you have to work out the proportions according to your ancestry?

Dietary ‘science’ ranks slightly below astrology.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 2:47 pm

Russian Ambassador to Washington, Anatoly Antonov reads the Cat!! These are the very things we’ve been saying for weeks/months.

Uh no Speedy, the Cat funnels Russian propaganda. You have the thing backwards.

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 2:53 pm

Moran’s coach at the Knights, Ronald Griffiths, said the relationship between Indigenous people and the monarch was a complicated one and that many people wouldn’t understand her comments.

As is now standard when reporting on a leftie who totally oversteps the mark on social media, the actual comment is never spelled out so that readers can judge for themselves. Instead, it becomes about the ‘victim’ who has allegedly been misunderstood.

Megan
Megan
September 15, 2022 2:57 pm

What happened in the early 1970s to trigger an acceleration of the chronic disease epidemic?

In Australia, they added fluoride to the water supply.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 2:59 pm

Oh gosh!

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 3:05 pm

Fatboy

Do you agree with Hillary Clinton at the time that Trump rigged the 2016 election with the help of the Russians? You continue to believe that, right?

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 3:06 pm

What is the numerical basis?

Imposing numerical values.

All the algos are doing would be reflecting the parameters you set

And how do you set parameters without resorting to some of sort of numerical basis at the bottom of the logic trail? You have to.

Speedbox
September 15, 2022 3:06 pm

Play fair Monty. You know there has been a lot of analysis of the Ukraine war here and it has not been mere regurgitation of Moscow’s talking points, nor have they followed the MSM stance. To pick up on something Cassie said upthread, the assorted historical truths and nuances for the region have been extensively examined and some contributors have added real depth to our understanding of what’s going on, why and where it may lead.

Oh, and the obligatory ‘piss off’. 🙂

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 3:07 pm

I do not believe the votes were rigged at the 2016 US election, no.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 3:09 pm

You did, Fatboy because you believed in Wussiagate and still do. Stop lying as it’s not a good look even for a huge porker like you.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 3:11 pm

You know there has been a lot of analysis of the Ukraine war here and it has not been mere regurgitation of Moscow’s talking points, nor have they followed the MSM stance.

It’s a live war in the information age, so there is propaganda on both sides. I’d only trust what victories are being admitted by the other side.

Ozzie posting RT.com and Scott Ritter joints here verbatim is a bit on the nose. I mean, I don’t come here every day and post CNN screeds.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 3:11 pm

As is now standard when reporting on a leftie who totally oversteps the mark on social media, the actual comment is never spelled out so that readers can judge for themselves

The actual comment was spelled out on this site. She should have been sacked, forthwith.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 3:16 pm

H B Bearsays:

September 15, 2022 at 2:28 pm

Conspiracy theorists have plenty to work with at the Essendon Football Club.

Breaking: Jake Stringer tests positive to Krispy Kremes.

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 3:17 pm

I mean, I don’t come here every day and post CNN screeds.

Tautology at its best.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 3:17 pm

I said at the time that I didn’t believe the votes were rigged, JC, even though the outcome was a rather arsey inside straight draw given how many more votes Clinton got in national totals. Trump exploited the old gerrymanders built into the US system to protect the South from centuries past, the culmination of Nixon’s Southern Strategy.

Hopefully he won’t get to do it a second time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 3:18 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

September 15, 2022 at 3:11 pm

As is now standard when reporting on a leftie who totally oversteps the mark on social media, the actual comment is never spelled out so that readers can judge for themselves

The actual comment was spelled out on this site. She should have been sacked, forthwith.

I think she is a moron, but calling for someone to be sacked for a political view has a touch of the Raelene Castles about it, don’t you think?

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 3:20 pm

You go, girl!

A woman accompanied by activists and brandishing what she said was a toy pistol has broken into a Beirut bank branch, taking more than $17,700 from her trapped savings.
Key points:

Lebanon’s banks have imposed strict limits on withdrawals of foreign currency since 2019
About three-quarters of the population has slipped into poverty
Other hold-ups by people trying to access their savings were reported in recent months

Sali Hafez told the local Al-Jadeed TV that she needed the money to fund her sister’s cancer treatment.

She said she had repeatedly visited the bank to ask for her money and was told she could only receive $200 a month in Lebanese pounds.

Ms Hafez said the toy pistol belonged to her nephew.

“I had begged the branch manager before for my money, and I told him my sister was dying, didn’t have much time left,” she said in the interview.

“I reached a point where I had nothing else to lose.”

Lebanon’s cash-strapped banks have imposed strict limits on withdrawals of foreign currency since 2019, tying up the savings of millions of people.

I don’t care if she wanted the money to buy false eyelashes and cosmetic surgery. It’s her bloody money.

Hard to imagine how Beirut used to be – a glittering city, a centre of culture and entertainment, a holiday destination. Now, it’s a smoking ruin.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2022 3:21 pm

“I think she is a moron, but calling for someone to be sacked for a political view has a touch of the Raelene Castles about it, don’t you think?”

Agree…either we’re for free speech or we’re not.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 3:33 pm

m0ntysays:
September 15, 2022 at 3:17 pm
I said at the time that I didn’t believe the votes were rigged, JC,

You spent around three years screeching about “Wussia, Wussia, Wussia, Muellerween, ThanksMueller, aaannnnnyyy day now, tick, tick, tick, chatter on lefty blogs” and so on ad infinitum. Now you claim that you accepted Trump’s victory from the beginning.

If you had a middle one, I’d suggest that you pull it. It might play Jingle Balls.

JMH
JMH
September 15, 2022 3:35 pm

Hard to imagine how Beirut used to be – a glittering city, a centre of culture and entertainment, a holiday destination. Now, it’s a smoking ruin.

The destiny of Melbourne in the not so distant future.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 3:36 pm

I think she is a moron, but calling for someone to be sacked for a political view has a touch of the Raelene Castles about it, don’t you think?

What if she signed some conduct agreement?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 3:37 pm

Here’s How Big Tech Plans To Rig The 2022 Midterms

Through its censorship, Big Tech controls the flow of information that informs voters and impacts elections.

As the 2022 midterms loom, big tech companies are again announcing their plans to meddle in U.S. elections by censoring news and information. Social media censorship ramped up dramatically following President Donald Trump’s 2016 victory, leading to companies such as Twitter and Facebook colluding with Democrat operatives in intelligence agencies to censor and suppress factual stories that harmed then-candidate Joe Biden during his 2020 campaign.

Two years later, following heavy documentation of the meddling, big tech companies are intent on using the same strategy. And they’re openly admitting as much.

Facebook

Nick Clegg, president of global affairs for Meta — Facebook’s parent company — wrote in a blog post that Facebook’s approach to the 2022 midterms will be “largely consistent with the policies and safeguards” from 2020.

Lead Stories, one of Facebook’s many left-wing “fact check” censors, is partly funded by the Democratic National Committee as well as Beijing-based ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns TikTok. In 2020, Lead Stories was responsible for censoring The Federalist’s own correct reporting about the Georgia election. After The Federalist criticized Lead Stories for its fake “fact-checking,” it was censored again.

While discussing their approach to the midterms with The New York Times, Facebook employees said the company will take a “greater interest” in censoring information that it claims could lead to “real-world violence” like the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

According to internal documents obtained by The Wall Street Journal, Facebook’s Disaggregating Harmful Networks Taskforce tracks hundreds of thousands of users and pages that could “distribute potentially harmful content.” Once Facebook employees identify a “dangerous information corridor” — networks of accounts, pages, and groups — they work to undermine it, usually by removing popular accounts or severely restricting users’ ability to transmit information. This is the same strategy Facebook applied when it censored more than 700,000 “Stop the Steal” supporters after the Jan 6. riot.

Yet Facebook took no action against the Democrat-funded and coordinated operation to question the legitimacy of the 2016 election by falsely accusing Donald Trump of being a traitor who stole the election by colluding with Russia. That lie, which led to mass public hysteria and years of investigations, is allowed free rein on its platform. Facebook’s so-called “fact-checkers” included journalists who participated in spreading the lie or otherwise allowed it to continue without censorship via fact-checking.

Twitter

In August, Twitter announced it would begin enforcing its “Civic Integrity Policy” for the 2022 midterms. This means taking “action against misleading claims about the voting process, misleading content intended to intimidate or dissuade people from participating in the election, or misleading claims that may undermine public confidence in elections outcomes.”

Of course, no censorship comes close to the level of Twitter (and Facebook) banning then-President Trump, leader of the Republican Party, from their platforms after the Jan. 6 riot — effectively cutting off communication from the president of the United States to his supporters and the rest of the country.

TikTok

Arguably the most popular social network in America right now, TikTok announced that it would also be countering so-called election misinformation through its Elections Center, a segment of the app that will “connect people who engage with election content to authoritative information and sources in more than 45 languages.”

As Federalist Culture Editor Emily Jashinsky reported, this gives the Chinese-owned social media company access to the voting profiles of all American users who opt to use TikTok’s Elections Center. As TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, is connected to the Chinese Communist Party, TikTok’s Elections Center “will put detailed voter profiles in the hands of a company based in Beijing, stocked with party members and state employees, subject to laws that allow the Chinese government data access.”

YouTube

YouTube was the last major social media platform to announce that it, too, had a plan to combat misinformation leading up to November’s general election.

In a Sept. 1 blog post, the company wrote that searches for midterm-related videos will prioritize “content coming from authoritative national and local news sources like PBS NewsHour, The Wall Street Journal, Univision and local ABC, CBS and NBC affiliates,” although many of these corporate media outlets possess a heavy left-wing bias. Any content deemed “borderline” misinformation will be prevented from being widely distributed.

Snapchat

Democratic organizations were accidentally granted access to a trove of Republican voter data on Snapchat, enabling them to hone their political ads leading up to the 2022 midterms. As Federalist Staff Writer Shawn Fleetwood reports, a “slip-up” by Snapchat gave groups such as the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, and Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams’ gubernatorial campaign access to voter data by Republican-aligned firm i360. Such groups used the data to create targeted political ads to sway voters.

What This Means

Much like in 2020, Big Tech companies are actively censoring information they deem harmful to their official narrative or preferred candidates. By falsely labeling factual information from conservatives “misinformation,” such companies have the power to control the flow of information that informs voters and rig elections in their favor.

It’s been heavily reported that companies like Facebook and Twitter have colluded with the Biden administration to censor information related to Covid-19. As the Biden administration already has plans to massively influence the 2022 midterms, they and other Democrats will continue to collude with big tech to swing high-stakes congressional races come November

Speedbox
September 15, 2022 3:38 pm

m0nty says:
September 15, 2022 at 3:11 pm

It’s a live war in the information age, so there is propaganda on both sides.

God knows that’s true.

I’d only trust what victories are being admitted by the other side.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Although the propaganda is often so biased as to render it virtually worthless, there can also be the tiniest gems of truth. Looking through lots of sites/reports builds a picture and where you have a historical perspective and understand the nuance, plus of course the capacity to think something through (missing from many public commentators) whilst ignoring the bias, you can often draw reasonable conclusions as to what is probably happening.

As none of us have access into the war room at the Kremlin, the CIA, MI6, military satellite feeds etc, it can only be our ‘best guess’ but some of the things posted on the Cat have subsequently turned out to be very close to the mark.

Oh, and ‘piss off’, again. 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 3:38 pm

Bombadee.

Beat me to it.
Dickless is claiming Putin got Trump over the line and has never withdrawn that lie. Even after the original liars gave up on it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2022 3:42 pm

Moran’s coach at the Knights, Ronald Griffiths, said the relationship between Indigenous people and the monarch was a complicated one and that many people wouldn’t understand her comments.

Lucky we have football coaches around to explain stuff to us.

I would ask Ronald where Moran would be without the colonisers? Playing a game so she could afford to live where she liked, buy what she liked, and have the right to her own private time and space – and opinion?

Or spending her time either searching for food, or sitting around with no TV, books, aircon, imported clothes, cars, computers etc. until it was time to search for food. Or to be traded for food.

Judging by how these pained and suffering Aborigines live it is quite clear that they prefer the modern lifestyle to the tribal one. So what then are they griping about? That when the Brits came to Australia’s shores they should have brought all the benefits differently? Perhaps giving the Aborigines what they wanted but all the while apologising for giving them what they want disrupting their pristine ancient lifestyles?

Perhaps the British should have turned up, built houses, roads, hospitals, power stations and such, then withdrew leaving just as many people as were necessary to maintain this new lifestyle for the inhabitants and otherwise keeping in the shadows or on their Europe-polluted ships?

Well, tough luck. Doesn’t work that way.

Hypothetical poser – if a band of Aborigines invented new means to make their mark on the land, to claim more territory, to access more food, would they have abandoned the new technology? Or would they have exploited it? What were their priorities? To get as much as they could? Or never to exceed the bounds of their condition even though they could.

I reckon they would have been fine pushing competitors to the edge in order to secure as much food and security as possible for their own. They simply never got themselves in a position to do that on a large scale, but I have no doubt that if they lucked into their own group having a couple of extra males with spears and they chanced upon old rivals with fewer spears about to tuck into a a kangaroo they would have chased them off and feasted. If they could have claimed a better water hole, a more bountiful plain, or a location better shielded against the elements for their camp, they would have seized it without any qualms.

On this principle they would have been on par with the Europeans.

Just the Europeans did it on so much a vaster scale.

Frank
Frank
September 15, 2022 3:42 pm

I don’t come here every day and post CNN screeds.

No, there are the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, ABC, The Chaser and Guardian screeds too.

rosie
rosie
September 15, 2022 3:45 pm

I think Liz Truss said she was putting an end to everyone else getting paid the same as I don’t know the expression? marginal gas which apparently some wholesalers manipulate (how nice for them) in the UK.
I am at a lose as to why contracts for renewals are not locked in but allowed to be subject to ludicrous amounts..
I bet the market was never played like that when fossil fuels were the only game in town.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 3:49 pm

Election Interference: DOJ/FBI Carpet-Bombed Subpoenas An Attempt To Freeze Political Opposition In Runup To Midterms

If Trumpworld and conservative world and Republican world legitimately were deserving of carpet bombed subpoenas regarding January 6, it would have been done a year ago, not now in the runup to the 2022 midterms. It’s reminiscent of the 2013-2014 prosecutorial attempt to freeze the Wisconsin conservative movement.

In recent days, the U.S. Department of Justice has served upwards of 40 subpoenas on people affiliated with Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign, many of whom continue to associate with or support him.

The reports were first aired by Steven Bannon, and confirmed at least in part by attorney Harmeet Dhillon:

The NY Times and other mainstream media have confirmed (with glee) the large number of subpoenas, including phone seizures:

Justice Department officials have seized the phones of two top advisers to former President Donald J. Trump and blanketed his aides with about 40 subpoenas in a substantial escalation of the investigation into his efforts to subvert the 2020 election, people familiar with the inquiry said on Monday.

The seizure of the phones, coupled with a widening effort to obtain information from those around Mr. Trump after the 2020 election, represent some of the most aggressive steps the department has taken thus far in its criminal investigation into the actions that led to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob.

The subpoenas themselves are extraordinarily broad, seeking communications with dozens of people.

So one subpoena to one person actually implicates dozens of people. Redstate published one of the subpoenas, along with the threatening cover letter:

Assume, for the sake of argument only, that such subpoenas were proper and necessary to investigate alleged crimes associated with the January 6, 2021, Capitol Hill riot. That’s a big assumption, but it proves the point, which is why now, some 18 months later?

If these subpoenas were so necessary to the investigation, why did DOJ/FBI wait a year and half until we are in the thick of the runup to the midterms?

These subpoenas are a big freeze not only on Trumpworld, but conservative and Republican worlds.

When people know that dozens are being subpoenaed by the feds regarding hundreds of people or entities, people stop talking to each other and engaging in perfectly lawful political activity out of fear that they will be next. Lawful political communication with the wrong person could find you on the receiving end of a DOJ subpoena and FBI home visit, or as just happend to Mike Lindell and others, being confronted on the street or in public by FBI agents.

It’s a way to shut down a political movement without having to arrest, indict, or prosecute anyone.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 3:54 pm

Or spending her time either searching for food, or sitting around with no TV, books, aircon, imported clothes, cars, computers etc. until it was time to search for food. Or to be traded for food.

At puberty, she would have been given to one of the old men of the tribe to act as sex object/ domestic slave. She would have ranked below the camp dogs when it came to food. After four or five children – if she survived – and frequent bashings – when he tired of her, she would have been passed on to the young men, as their sex object/ domestic slave. When she got too old to keep up with the tribe, when they moved on to new hunting grounds, she would have been left behind to stave or die from thirst.

JMH
JMH
September 15, 2022 3:54 pm

What This Means

Much like in 2020, Big Tech companies are actively censoring information they deem harmful to their official narrative or preferred candidates. By falsely labeling factual information from conservatives “misinformation,” such companies have the power to control the flow of information that informs voters and rig elections in their favor

.

You would be wanting to think the average Republican voter would be all over this deception by now – the Covid 19 bullshit and the big steal as two examples. You would think they might just flock to those social media platforms that do not censor news and pay zero attention to anything Farcebook and Twatter have to say.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 3:55 pm

Election Interference: DOJ/FBI Carpet-Bombed Subpoenas An Attempt To Freeze Political Opposition In Runup To Midterms

From the Comments

The fact recipients are requested not to disclose the subpoena or their compliance with it, on pain of interference with enforcement of the law strikes rather an alarming note.

Keep silent, and do as you’re told, or else face charges.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 4:02 pm

You’re confusing basis with representation.

No I’m not. I’m exactly saying that basis forms representation or reverse.

but what that robot executes is simply the instructions of the owner, which could be more or less resistant to home intrusion.

Following an immediate instruction is altogether different than what we’re talking about.

The question of whether those instructions, as reflected in the algorithms, were proportionate are entirely separate.</blockquote

No, I don't accept that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 4:05 pm

If they could have claimed a better water hole, a more bountiful plain, or a location better shielded against the elements for their camp, they would have seized it without any qualms.

On this principle they would have been on par with the Europeans.

Just the Europeans did it on so much a vaster scale.

Magical pixie people, they were completely free of all vices known to lesser mortals.
Its well past the point some of the dopier outliers were smacked on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and informed their people were failures.
Apocolypto was science fiction movie set thousands of years in the future compared to their farcical “increase ceremonies”.
We are supposed to kow-tow to savages performing rain dances as though not doing agriculture instead was a great achievement.
https://ozoutback.com.au/Australia/jarduwanpa/index.html

I dont like being rude about it, putting it that way, but ill be buggered if blacknecks like Thorpe and the execrable Langton have a monopoly on being racist shitheads.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 4:06 pm

The USAF Closes Ranks With Defense Contractors to Prevent a Fighter Pilot’s Widow From Finding Out Why Her Husband Died

When nearing the base, Schmitz, an Airman with the 77th Fighter Squadron at Shaw, misinterpreted the approach lighting system. He failed to identify where the runway began, hitting the localizer antenna array on the ground and “severely damaging the left main landing gear,” according to Air Combat Command.

The aircraft briefly touched the ground, then tried to circle back and land again. Shaw Airmen attempted to land the plane by catching the jet on a cable at the beginning of the runway, but the cable missed the tailhook. Damage to the landing gear caused the plane’s left wing to hit the runway.

Schmitz ejected from the fighter after missing the cable, but his parachute never deployed. He died after hitting the ground while still in the seat, according to the release.

The F-16CM is equipped with the Advanced Concept Ejection Seat (ACES) II, which is supposed to be capable of ejecting in any landing gear failure scenario while traveling at speeds up to 200 knots. Schmitz’s aircraft was going 120 knots, or about 138 mph, when he ejected.

However, there was a “critical failure” when the seat left the aircraft, and six of seven “pyrotechnic devices” that should have activated did not.

Second, the DRS’s 10-year life span expired on Feb. 28, 2019, but the Air Force Life Cycle Management Center issued three temporary extensions because parts once again were not available.

In a restricted annex to the accident report, Air Force investigators found a problem they were not willing to make public. The ejector seat was incapable of functioning because key components installed by the manufacturer were possibly counterfeit versions or just crap. This information became public thanks to a lawsuit filed by Schmitz’s widow, Valerie, against Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the F-16; Raytheon subsidiary Collins Aerospace; and several Teledyne Technologies business units.

More – An F-16 pilot died when his ejection seat failed. Was it counterfeit?

An Air Force investigation of a fatal fighter jet crash in 2020 quietly discovered that key components of the pilot’s ejection seat may have been counterfeit, Air Force Times has learned.

According to Air Force Research Laboratory slides dated Aug. 3, 2020, however, the service suspected that several transistors and microchips inside the sequencer were fake. Valerie’s legal team obtained the slides through a Freedom of Information Act request.

Six transistors “had no conformal coating, were heavily gouged, had arcing scratch marks, were considered obsolete and were suspected of being counterfeit,” the complaint said. A capacitor that may have been damaged while it was handled was “partially dislodged.”

Suppliers Atmel, Analog Devices and Siliconix provided the potentially counterfeit transistors, memory chips and accelerometer chip, according to the Air Force slides.

First Lt. David Schmitz, an F-16 Fighting Falcon pilot at South Carolina’s Shaw Air Force Base, died June 30, 2020, when his ejection seat malfunctioned as he tried to escape from a failed nighttime landing. He was 32.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 15, 2022 4:06 pm

Geez Tom, is there any topic on which you don’t take the side of cheats and blaggards?

This is one of the least valuable and most bannable trolls having a go at one of the blogs most valuable contributors.
It’s been going on far too long and degrades most threads.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

For those who were wondering what the Proud NRLW player tweeted,
Underneath a photo of Queen Elizabeth she wrote:

Todays a good fkn day, uncle Luke announces his tour, and this dumb dog dies Happpy fkn Friday

Btw, judging by two NRLW photos of her, she’s not as blakk as Senator Lidia Thorpe.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2022 4:10 pm

Someone was saying earlier that post-modernism has lessons.

Lessons are not sustainable in post-modernism since they bespeak of order, objective facts, logic, etc.

Post-modernism is just an absurd abuse of modernism, applying logic to logic and discovering that the laws of logic are not prior to logic and that experience, not being derived from logic, cannot be defended in logic.

In practice it is simply a simple-minded sophistry to be used to insist that an opponent is disqualified from holding an idea, while the bore who resorts to post-modernism would never apply the same searing torch to their own opinion because it would also disqualify their claim.

That is, they would decry notions of justice with ideas of guilt and law and morality as the rather pathetic clinging to a favourite blanky from an intellectual childhood which should have been lefdt behind, while at the same time demanding people be forced into a new world order and anyone who gets in the way be punished for their intransigence.

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 4:13 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
September 15, 2022 at 3:21 pm

“I think she is a moron, but calling for someone to be sacked for a political view has a touch of the Raelene Castles about it, don’t you think?”

Agree…either we’re for free speech or we’re not.

It’s a bit more complicated than that. Remember what happened to Israel Folau? It was about expressing his religious views, not political ones. Unlike the US, we don’t have Constitutional protection for religious beliefs, or for political ones.

What is very common is that people’s employment contracts include a clause about not trashing the reputation of his/her employer directly or by association, whether it be a sports team or a company or even a government agency. When someone uses their profile as an employee to make public comments, it can reflect on the employer.

If (to take an extreme example) a contracted sports figure announced on Twitter an attraction to toddlers, the suspension or cancellation of that person’s contract would not be controversial.

The case under discussion is not as bad, but certainly abhorrent to at least a plurality of Australians. It immediately raises the question of what her employers are going to do. The only reason anyone has heard of her is because of her ‘job.’

I’m not saying that she should be sacked, or that she shouldn’t.

But, one of the reasons sport keeps getting high ratings is because of inconsistent decisions. 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 4:19 pm

Proportionate response to any situation can only be judged from the sideline after the event. If I wake in the night to find someone in my house I do not ask him what he wants or is doing there. Crash bang wallop is my response. I care not what damage I inflict on him. I need not some feckless prick telling me I overreacted. Ricky Slater come on down, oh he can’t, thankyou Ben. Don’t bring a pair of scissors to a gun fight. Thankyou Constable Rolfe.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 4:22 pm

You’re making a comparison in terms of the proportionate response. You think it can’t be expressed as a value – even a range of values but that’s where we eventually end up. You’re otherwise suggesting we’re similar to very ancient folk who at the time hadn’t learned to count even to one.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 4:24 pm

GreyRanga says:
September 15, 2022 at 4:19 pm

Proportionate response to any situation can only be judged from the sideline after the event. If I wake in the night to find someone in my house I do not ask him what he wants or is doing there. Crash bang wallop is my response. I care not what damage I inflict on him. I need not some feckless prick telling me I overreacted. Ricky Slater come on down, oh he can’t, thankyou Ben. Don’t bring a pair of scissors to a gun fight. Thankyou Constable Rolfe.

That’s Defcon 1, no? :-1

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 4:25 pm

bespokesays:

September 15, 2022 at 3:36 pm

I think she is a moron, but calling for someone to be sacked for a political view has a touch of the Raelene Castles about it, don’t you think?

What if she signed some conduct agreement?

My answer remains the same as it was for Israel Folau.
If your football association/club is the only realistic option for a person to earn a living, inserting a “behavioural” or “conduct” clause in their contract which has precisely zero to do with their performance as a player and infringes their freedoms, that is unconscionable conduct and the clause is void.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 4:29 pm

Then there is the case of NRLW Indigenous player Caitlin Moran. As The Daily Telegraph reported, last Friday the Newcastle Knights player posted an image of the queen on Instagram along with the caption: “Todays a good fkn day, uncle Luke announces his tour, and this dumb dog dies Happpy fkn Friday”.

Anyone imagine the uproar if similar remarks had been posted about Marcia Langton, or Linda Burney?
Freedom of speech?

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 4:30 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
September 15, 2022 at 3:54 pm

Or spending her time either searching for food, or sitting around with no TV, books, aircon, imported clothes, cars, computers etc. until it was time to search for food. Or to be traded for food.

At puberty, she would have been given to one of the old men of the tribe to act as sex object/ domestic slave. She would have ranked below the camp dogs when it came to food. After four or five children – if she survived – and frequent bashings – when he tired of her, she would have been passed on to the young men, as their sex object/ domestic slave. When she got too old to keep up with the tribe, when they moved on to new hunting grounds, she would have been left behind to stave or die from thirst.

But, but – we were told it was a matriarchy.

Well, it is now a matriarchy just like poor American black families are matriarchies. Following the collapse of the family, American blacks in ghetto areas typically consist of grandmothers who house their daughters and the daughters’ children. The fathers are nowhere to be seen for practical purposes, although they do drop in for booty calls and to proudly admire their offspring.

Yes, strong older women hold these shambolic situations together as best they can.

Matriarchy? Where you are a full time/lifetime carer for the children of fuck-ups?

Time to consult the dictionary. I must be missing something.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 15, 2022 4:33 pm

Daisy Pearce weighs in:
“What I’ve learned… is that for First Nations people, colonialism… represents the genocide of their people, the theft of their land, the erasure of their culture and way of life, the loss of their wealth, their basic human rights, and their children.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-15/daisy-pearce-indigenous-round-minute-silence-queen-aflw/101443846

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

johanna; Thank you for the link/copypaste recently to the story of Roland Breckwoldt & his book of his adventures in the Qld Gulf Country in the early 1960s.
I’d never have known of that book if not for your raising it on the Cat.
Book was ordered, has now arrived & placed on the ‘to read’ pile.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 4:39 pm

Daisy Pearce is a very classy lady.

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 4:39 pm

Just occurred to me that Anchor meant Cassie and her comments. Which makes far more sense.

Sorry. The bouquet is already in the vase and looks quite nice. I’m keeping it.

calli
calli
September 15, 2022 4:41 pm

I’ve seen the best of Split. Raining today. The sapphire sea is now a dull pewter. Off to the lakes.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 15, 2022 4:43 pm

No original thought in her commentary, none here.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2022 4:45 pm

It’s already been said on the Cat, but Russia losing in Ukraine really would turn it into a Chinese client state. Russia losing is by no means assured yet, but the possibility is growing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 4:45 pm

m0ntysays:
September 15, 2022 at 4:39 pm
Daisy Pearce is a very classy lady.

When will you be giving back the “stolen” land on which your house, and any investment properties you own, to the local indigenous Land Council?

Morsie
Morsie
September 15, 2022 4:45 pm

Walking through Diocletians palace we encountered a local acapella group singing under a dome.Absolutely magic.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 4:45 pm

Facebook spied on private messages of Americans who questioned 2020 election

By Miranda Devine

Facebook has been spying on the private messages and data of American users and reporting them to the FBI if they express anti-government or anti-authority sentiments — or question the 2020 election — according to sources within the Department of Justice.

Under the FBI collaboration operation, somebody at Facebook red-flagged these supposedly subversive private messages over the past 19 months and transmitted them in redacted form to the domestic terrorism operational unit at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, without a subpoena.

“It was done outside the legal process and without probable cause,” alleged one of the sources, who spoke on condition of ­anonymity.

“Facebook provides the FBI with private conversations which are protected by the First Amendment without any subpoena.”

These private messages then have been farmed out as “leads” to FBI field offices around the country, which subsequently requested subpoenas from the partner US Attorney’s Office in their district to officially obtain the private conversations that Facebook already had shown them.

But when the targeted Facebook users were investigated by agents in a local FBI field office, sometimes using covert surveillance techniques, nothing criminal or violent turned up.

“It was a waste of our time,” said one source familiar with subpoena requests lodged during a 19-month frenzy by FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, to produce the caseload to match the Biden administration’s rhetoric on domestic terrorism after the Jan.?6, 2021, Capitol riot.

‘Red-blooded Americans’

The Facebook users whose private communications Facebook had red-flagged as domestic terrorism for the FBI were all “conservative right-wing individuals.”

“As soon as a subpoena was requested, within an hour, Facebook sent back gigabytes of data and photos. It was ready to go. They were just waiting for that legal process so they could send it.”

In a second, unprompted “updated statement,” sent 64 minutes later, Sackin altered her language to say the claims are “wrong,” not “false.”

Agency doublespeak

Responding to questions about the misuse of data only of American users, the statement curiously focused on “foreign malign influence actors” but did acknowledge that the nature of the FBI’s relationship with social media providers enables a “quick exchange” of information, and is an “ongoing dialogue.”

‘None were Antifa types’

The DOJ sources have decided to speak to The Post, at risk to their careers, because they are concerned that federal law enforcement has been politicized and is abusing the constitutional rights of innocent Americans.

They say more whistleblowers are ready to join them.

Unrest has been building among the rank and file across the FBI and in some parts of the DOJ for months. It came to a head after the raid last month on former President Donald Trump’s home Mar-a-Lago in Florida.

“The most frightening thing is the combined power of Big Tech colluding with the enforcement arm of the FBI,” says one whistleblower. “Google, Facebook and Twitter, these companies are globalist. They don’t have our national interest at heart.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 4:46 pm

Hard to imagine how Beirut used to be – a glittering city, a centre of culture and entertainment, a holiday destination. Now, it’s a smoking ruin.

The thin veneer of civilisation.

Mater
September 15, 2022 4:50 pm

COVID-19 is a very serious threat to public health, and to the human rights of people in the community (such as the rights to life, and the highest achievable standard of health). There is clearly a rational link between health responses to the pandemic and the risk faced by the community. However, under international human rights law, governments also have a responsibility to demonstrate that any limitations they put on rights are proportionate to the threat.

I wouldn’t mind seeing the numbers behind this ‘proportionate’ response!

https://humanrights.gov.au/about/covid19-and-human-rights/where-line-covid-19-emergency-measures

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 4:50 pm

But, but – we were told it was a matriarchy.

My uncle “went droving” around Alice Springs, in the late 1940’s, before managing cattle stations in the Kimberly’s until the 1970’s.

He recorded his impressions. “First the men got the pick of what was on the campfire, then the dogs. Women got the scraps.” Some matriarchy….

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2022 4:52 pm

on which are your house …

johanna
johanna
September 15, 2022 4:55 pm

Dover, at its core proportionality is about numbers.

In cooking, two parts this to three parts that illustrates the principle of proportionality. It cannot exist without numbers. Without numbers, it is void.

You may argue about the application, but not the concept.

Speedbox
September 15, 2022 4:57 pm

By the way…….

About 3 weeks ago one of our Cats (forget who) suggested that buying shares in Asra Minerals Ltd (ASX:ASR) might be worth a punt. Usual cautions were given.

Anyway, at the time ASR were around $0.018 cents per share and peaked at $0.028 a couple of days ago. Slipped back today to $0.026 but still a tasty % profit for those who bought in when first suggested. (I didn’t).

Mater
September 15, 2022 5:00 pm

2.63 In short, a structured proportionality analysis involves considering whether a given law that limits important rights has a legitimate objective and is suitable and necessary to meet that objective, and whether—on balance—the public interest pursued by the law outweighs the harm done to the individual right.

https://www.alrc.gov.au/publication/traditional-rights-and-freedoms-encroachments-by-commonwealth-laws-alrc-report-129/2-rights-and-freedoms-in-context/justifying-limits-on-rights-and-freedoms-2/

Hard to put figures around that hot little mess.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 15, 2022 5:00 pm

This is the moment I gave up on Joe Biden

By Sasha Stone

Yes, tell them, Joe. Tell the “MAGA Republicans” they’re not welcome in their own country. Tell them their participation is a threat to a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Tell them that Democracy means they have to sit down and shut up.

Tell the truck driver who travels coast to coast, working the graveyard shift, to bring freshly cut meat to supermarket shelves. Tell the police officer, the waitress, the bartender, the cable guy, the grocery-store clerk, the grandmother, the garage mechanic, the veteran who served in Afghanistan who now has been kicked out of the military for not taking the vaccine, the mother of two who now must home-school her children — that they are the violent extremists posing the biggest threat to the country they call home.

Tell them, Joe, that you’ve decided to throw them away like human garbage and that you’re hoping for another Jan. 6 so you can arrest anyone who ever voted for or supported Donald Trump. Tell them that you and you alone ARE America, and any threat to your power is a threat to the State because that’s not fascism at all.

Why did Joe Biden give that speech? Who thought that was a good idea?

Desperate & dishonest

I forced myself to disconnect from the media entirely to escape the bubble. I stopped reading my Twitter feed and started an alternative account that paid attention only to the right.

It took a conscious effort on my part to reprogram my brain to be able to see both sides clearly and fairly. Once I did that, I was horrified by what I saw on the left. The hypocrisy, the inhumanity. Worse than all, I could suddenly see what was true and what wasn’t true and how much the media and politicians lie daily. They tell themselves what they want to be true, not what is true.

At the same time, they were busy silencing dissent everywhere. If you challenge their narrative, you will be attacked on Twitter, fired from your job at any media outlet, or forced to apologize. You aren’t given any other option. They don’t want anyone to tell the truth ever. They want to shut it down.

How did we ever get here? And is there any way out?

There is a line in “Citizen Kane” where the character of Gettys says to Kane, “you’re going to need more than one lesson. And you’re to get more than one lesson.”

And so it goes with the Democrats. Right now, they need to be taught a lesson — to be voted out in such massive numbers, it causes them to rethink the mess they’ve made of this country. They might destroy most of the cultural institutions the Boomers built in the 1960s, but we can’t let them do that to our government.

This is hard for me to say or even think about. It took me a few years to arrive at this point. After President Biden’s speech, however, I don’t see any other way. Substack, YouTube, podcasts, and other outlets offer objective opinions and investigative reporting. Hopefully, more people will begin to gravitate away from mainstream news until they can get a grip and maybe grow a pair.

I used to be a true-blue Democrat. I voted faithfully in every election. I can even remember voting for Michael Dukakis. My faith remained unshaken for most of my adult life.

A supporter betrayed

Most of my friends and family remain gobsmacked that my entire perspective could change almost overnight. My mother said, “you became a completely different person.”

I don’t think that I did. I think I just saw, for the first time, what my side looked like from the other side. Now I can see just how much power and influence the left has. We used to be the counterculture, the anti-establishment. But now we have become the system we used to fight against.

The 2020 election was even further proof, at least to me, that the Democrats had now become corrupt, that they had way too much power and wealth such that we might never have a free and fair election again. They spent $1 billion, the most expensive election in history, to elect Joe Biden.

They changed voting laws to close the enthusiasm gap they battle with in every election and simply collect votes from voters who weren’t motivated to go to the polls themselves. They took complete control of nearly every major institution just to stop Trump, and even still, they barely won. Trump still won Iowa, Ohio and Florida.

They haven’t stopped. If anything, they’ve just gotten much more authoritarian. With the prime-time Jan. 6 show trial, the raid of Mar-a-Lago, and now the DOJ going after Trump and Steve Bannon, we are truly living through a dystopian nightmare in a near-totalitarian state.

Zealots in charge

We might not be able to purge this madness from our culture. But we most certainly can purge it from our government by voting. If the Democrats refuse to stand up to the “new puritans” brand of injustice, intolerance, and ongoing hysteria, they must go.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2022 5:11 pm

Daily Mail

Awkward moment embattled war hero Ben Roberts-Smith flies commercial to London for the Queen’s funeral – rather than on Albo’s VIP jet with handpicked ‘everyday Aussies’

Ben Roberts-Smith checked in at Brisbane International Airport on Thursday
Embattled ex-soldier didn’t receive invite from Anthony Albanese
He instead had to pay for his own commercial flight to London for service
Roberts-Smith invited alongside Australia’s three other VC recipients
Gai and Robert Waterhouse did receive invites for private flight from the PM
The former corporal is facing allegations of historic war crimes

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:14 pm

Hahaha

Just perfect.

Steve Sailer

My definition of “feminism:” A movement that attempts to elevate the status and interests of less feminine women above those of more feminine women.

Arky
September 15, 2022 5:16 pm

johanna says:
September 15, 2022 at 4:55 pm
Dover, at its core proportionality is about numbers

..
Depends if the data is qualitative or quantitative.
You can make a value judgement to assign numbers to qualitative data, but: value judgement in, value judgement out.
Such as when they ask you to rate your pain 1 to 10.
Perceptions of pain doesn’t have a number measurement like voltage or miles per hour.
Believe too much in the assignment of numbers to perceived things like pain or how bad some action is, and you are on the path to pseudo science, safe spaces, micro aggressions and privilege.
Moral judgements are moral judgements and concrete, real things can be measured by actual counting, counting things, counting graduations on a scale, counting dollars, rather than assigning numbers to things like pain, colours or rating nipple cripples vs Chinese burns.
If 9 out of ten people rate a wedgie as worse than a wet willie, who cares?
I don’t care if you rate the colour orange 6 and blue 4. It isn’t anything real.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 15, 2022 5:16 pm

… handpicked ‘everyday Aussies’

Maaaate

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:17 pm

Oh jeez.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2022 5:18 pm

OldOzzie says:
September 15, 2022 at 2:26 pm

Weaken Germany to strengthen US: Alleged leaked RAND doc outlines plan to destroy Europe as ‘political competitor’

Fake RAND Report on ‘Weakening Germany’

FOR RELEASE
Wednesday
September 14, 2022

A supposedly leaked RAND report about a bizarre U.S. conspiracy to “weaken Germany” is fake.

Take this as you will.
One thing is for certain, we are in such a low trust environment that any bullshit can seem credible if it stacks up with what you see going on around you.

In the case of the US, you can’t put on a shit show like Biden without a self inflicted wound.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:20 pm

Hey Leadership.. Sprocket Leadership can you just fuck off from comments or topics I initiate. Focus more on telling us just what a predictive genius you are, you shithead. Go on fuck off.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:22 pm

Believe too much in the assignment of numbers to perceived things like pain or how bad some action is, and you are on the path to pseudo science, safe spaces, micro aggressions and privilege.

Medics!

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:27 pm

Tucker is hilarious .

The running lump. Keep an eye on the lump.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tuckers-mocking-of-fetterneck-is-truly-glorious/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2022 5:29 pm

Morsiesays:
September 15, 2022 at 4:45 pm
Walking through Diocletians palace we encountered a local acapella group singing under a dome.Absolutely magic.

Same, same.
The dome and stone walls create perfect acoustics.
I have a CD I bought somewhere.
That was another tourist piss off for me.
People elbow to the front and film and record them, but don’t leave a cracker in their tin.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2022 5:31 pm

JC those two I mentioned could have prevevented anything at all happening by not doing what the did in the first place. On an international scale the belligerence of the likes of china saying and doing anything they like but as soon as anyone respondes the poor old choggies get so upset. You can’t say that you’re mean and nasty. By putting up with their bullshit you condone their behaviour. Do not threaten anyone, you may not live to regret it. Only the weak turn the other cheek. Only bullies threaten.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2022 5:31 pm

The measure, announced as part of a new emergency intervention package on Wednesday, calls for a cap on the revenues of so-called “infra-marginal producers” – which takes in wind, solar, biomass, nuclear, lignite and some hydropower plants – at.

And how the renewables industry is howling. At €180/MWh they’re still making massive windfall profits – just €200/MWh less than they were.

As I may have mentioned, Australia needs to implement a windfall limit on our own ‘infra-marginal producers’.

Alternatively, give out shitloads of OPM via subsidies to keep households and industry running…

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 5:33 pm

Ranga

Explain what you mean as I’m not getting the point or from where it’s coming from. Honest.

cohenite
September 15, 2022 5:50 pm

I do not believe the votes were rigged at the 2016 US election, no.

The 2016 election was rigged. Comey exonerated shrillary for doing what Trump is now accused of doing.

John H.
John H.
September 15, 2022 5:55 pm

What happened in the early 1970s to trigger an acceleration of the chronic disease epidemic?

People started believing nutritionists.
Omega 6 based cooking oils. So bloody stupid.
The explosion in HFC syrup being used in everything.
Whitlam

Now excuse me while I once again pay my agents to trash Key’s gravestone.

Johnny Rotten
September 15, 2022 5:57 pm

m0ntysays:
September 15, 2022 at 2:47 pm

Uh no Speedy, the Cat funnels Russian propaganda. You have the thing backwards.

All Governments utilise propaganda especially in Wartime. Who the heck really knows what is going on with the Russian ‘Police Action’ in the Ukraine. I do like that phrase ‘Police Action’ as it sounds a bit softer than the word Invasion………..lol

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 6:00 pm

If your football association/club is the only realistic option for a person to earn a living, inserting a “behavioural” or “conduct” clause in their contract which has precisely zero to do with their performance as a player and infringes their freedoms, that is unconscionable conduct and the clause is void.

I think athletes need to either knuckle under on their plantations to the ‘massahs, or the various competitions need to accept if a person acts like a flog ( Adam *cough* Goodes) then fans are entitled to serve it back.

id rather see the mole booed till she left the ground in tears, or the opposition propose a toast before bouncedown “Gentlemen THE KING” and when she whines to the sports controllers they give them unsolicited travel advice.

Fans used to be what kept sportsmen from getting away with being massive flogs.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:04 pm

Dover

Think of it like this:

I love these animals in this order
1/ dogs
2/cats
3/gerbils
4/ Cronkites

I can attach a numerical value to show how much I like these animals in a relative order. Sure the underlying reasons may not have numerical values attached at to why (they may) but the end result is that I love dogs the most and Cronkites the least. It’s also displayed in a way that others can understand.

Take remote driven cars, all of the programming would be done numerically or at least configured numerically.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 6:07 pm

The chiron..

Fetterman is a giant walking vegetable…

My sides.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Take remote driven cars, all of the programming would be done numerically or at least configured numerically.

Hence they run into people & other stuff ups.
There is no replacement for human judgement.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:10 pm

So 88% of those forced on ventilators died. These people are fathers, mothers, grandfathers, most of them far younger than those who died from Covid alone. It was a murderous calamity about which hardly anyone writes. No one takes responsibility.

Let’s take this at face value and assume that it’s correct. The world was panicking in 2020 and part of 2021. People were rushed to hospital complaining of being unable to breathe and I would bet their oxygen saturation was extremely low. When oxygen sat. is low I would imagine doctors may call for an oxygen mask or even ventilation.

There are people in ICU who are placed on vents even today, so what is the issue?

Perhaps, it’s the newer therapeutics that are helping a lot too.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2022 6:12 pm

That was me with the Asra minerals tip.

But as i said, treat strictly as coming from the derro at the pub who knows about a dead cert in the next race…
The derro (a relative) was talking about it hitting a dollar, which seems realms of fantasy stuff without something legendary turning up in drilling results.

Only put beer money in, it may have already hit its height!

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 6:15 pm
Johnny Rotten
September 15, 2022 6:16 pm

Doverbeachsays:
September 15, 2022 at 4:15 pm
No, I don’t accept that.

Take the Israeli example I provided, how do you numerically determine whether the IDF’s actions were proportionate?

Simple. The Israelis themselves determine whether their actions were proportionate. Which is why they always are……………………….

Lysander
Lysander
September 15, 2022 6:18 pm

Simple. The Israelis themselves determine whether their actions were proportionate. Which is why they always are……………………….

Brilliant?

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:19 pm

Hence they run into people & other stuff ups.
There is no replacement for human judgement.

Ummm actually there is as the mining houses can attest. At the time, it was explained to me that you don’t want combined remote and human driving at a working mining site as it’s a disaster. The two don’t mix. I’m not sure if it’s got better (the combo), but I suspect it has because this was told to me over a decade ago.

What the miners also found is that they increased efficiency with remote in all sorts of ways, but one area was explicit and that was truck upkeep. They found much less upkeep was required because computers didn’t thrash the shit out the trucks. Shit like tires held up longer and those things (tires) cost a mountain for this monsters (100K each?)

Also, I think human judgement can be pretty imprecise and we’ll find AI will do better in the future.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 6:21 pm

Spend five minutes in a Bunnings car park and you’ll soon loose faith in human judgement.
Slow motion chaos.

cohenite
September 15, 2022 6:25 pm

I love these animals in this order
1/ dogs
2/cats
3/gerbils
4/ Cronkites

I still wear that collar you gave me head prefect, every night

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 6:26 pm

kitten corner: EU electricity trading
electrons have consequences

If you want a good laugh. At least from this distance. Not so funny there.

Zipster
Zipster
September 15, 2022 6:27 pm

Take remote driven cars, all of the programming would be done numerically or at least configured numerically.

Hence they run into people & other stuff ups.
There is no replacement for human judgement.

yet

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

That was me with the Asra minerals tip.

$1,000 turning into $1,500 three weeks later.
Not a bad result.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 6:28 pm
JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:29 pm

bespoke says:
September 15, 2022 at 6:21 pm

Spend five minutes in a Bunnings car park and you’ll soon loose faith in human judgement.
Slow motion chaos.

Or even a layer worse-far worse. Female and Asian (all) drivers. Female drivers are freaking horrendous. They will never give another driver access even at an intersection they shouldn’t be blocking. I’d personally ban all these groups, which is an excellent way to reduce emissions and traffic.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Hence they run into people & other stuff ups.
There is no replacement for human judgement.

Ummm actually there is as the mining houses can attest.

Only if they keep them in a controlled environment that resembles a virtual slot car track.

They found much less upkeep was required because computers didn’t thrash the shit out the trucks.

Putting females as dump truck drivers achieves the same, with the added bonus the mine site need not be totally a virtual slot car track.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:33 pm

My hunch about AI is that it will take a lot longer than what optimists are suggesting about AI having much more impact on the world. Data is really dirty and as we’ve found through covid as most of it is fucking useless. The world’s data sets have to improve enormously.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:35 pm

Only if they keep them in a controlled environment that resembles a virtual slot car track.

This was over a decade ago what I’m described above. I suspect it’s got loads better as there’s a ton of money being spent on this.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2022 6:38 pm

Helping the homeless.

It’s not compassion. It is a scam.

“Helping” the homeless is an industry for the people who make a living and make a killing off of it. Bureaucrats, nonprofits, and developers are essentially farming homeless people to make a nice living and profit off of the problem.

And, of course, it’s government rules and regulations which create the problem in the first place.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 15, 2022 6:40 pm

And how the renewables industry is howling. At €180/MWh they’re still making massive windfall profits – just €200/MWh less than they were.

Amusing as it is to see the “renewables” spivs getting their snouts dragged partly out of the trough, as a general principle the imposition of price caps like this on an established enterprise is what used to be called “sovereign risk”. When people commit to an investment in a jurisdiction with a supposedly open market they trade off the prospects of downside risk versus prospects of upside reward. If, after having committed to the investment, they get part of the upside reward confiscated from them, that sends a message to anyone thinking of investing in that jurisdiction to give negligible value to the higher levels of upside. It’s the kind of stunt that governments can pull only so often. Here it’s being used to try to hide from the voters the fact that the government has made an almighty disaster area of the country’s energy supply system, so it’s politically inevitable, but that doesn’t mitigate the long term consequences.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I suspect it’s got loads better

I suspect“. Is that a numeric based methodology or a hunch?

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:42 pm

Out of curiosity, if it was a binary choice between this venomous scorpion

@AdamBandt
·
1h
There is nothing racists hate more than strong women of colour speaking up, and calling them out.

I’m in awe of @MehreenFaruqi’s strength, and condemn Pauline Hanson for her inexcusable hate.

We’ll be moving to censure her in Parliament.

….or a strict Wahhabi, who would you choose to keep in the country or deport. The choice is either or (only).

Me, I’d go for the Wahhabi in a micro second.

JC
JC
September 15, 2022 6:44 pm

“I suspect“. Is that a numeric based methodology or a hunch?

A quasi numeric based hunch because the rate of software advancement has been pretty progressive.

You appear to have time on your hands these afternoons. 🙂

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 15, 2022 6:45 pm

What the miners also found is that they increased efficiency with remote in all sorts of ways, but one area was explicit and that was truck upkeep.

There’s another advantage in underground mining. Cave ins do occur, albeit very infrequently, and in the first world there’s a tendency to want not to have deaths among the work force. The fewer personnel hours spent underground the better.

bespoke
bespoke
September 15, 2022 6:48 pm

My concern about AI transport is misuse.

You will only go out at x amount of time. Or only to approved destinations.

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