Open Thread – Weekend 17 Sept 2022


The Shores of Dalmatia, Ivan Aivazovski, 1848

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Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:11 am
calli
calli
September 17, 2022 12:12 am

First one!

We are staying around a kilometre from the Bosnian border. It’s a little village with a big new hotel.

But “village” is a misnomer. The houses are bombed out and very few people still live here. The hotel is a mixture of private investment and UN funds. This place was on the front of the 91-95 war. Just looking around, it’s still devastating. Little farmlets and houses, boarded up, roofs stoved in, docks and other weeds growing all around.

War is hideous. It has no honour only misery and horror. And it leaves long shadows.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:19 am

War is hideous

And Banalities are excruciating. Especially when visited upon the unsuspecting.

Again.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:26 am

The Afghanistan idiocy being a prime example.

The most hideous thing about it was the sheer pointless waste of twenty years of priceless blood and treasure.

The end result – the idiots the West went to war with emerging triumphant with gazillions worth of hardware and the former’s toxic beliefs even more firmly embedded in their enemy’s homelands.

Masters of War, indeed.

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 12:27 am
Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:33 am
calli
calli
September 17, 2022 12:39 am

I had forgotten “Masters of War”.

Dylan nails it. No more needs be said.

No risk of exposure these days – we have TikTok nurses and aspiring rappers for social commentary.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 17, 2022 12:39 am

An electric car parked on a street in Manly, on Sydney’s northern beaches, was spotted being charged by a lengthy trail of power cord

Link

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 12:42 am

From the old fred.

callisays:

September 16, 2022 at 11:39 pm

A quick travelogue before the thread ticks over to the weekend.

The lakes are unique and lovely

See.
I furken toldya.
No cascadin’ water, duzzen matter.
Of all the places in the wide world we have visited, Plitvice Lakes are up there.
The crystal clarity of the water and the almost primeval rock formations are something to behold.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 17, 2022 12:43 am

Lauren’s great isn’t she?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9sbZAtST58
Deadpan parody of progressive influencers.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:47 am

Highway 61 Revisited – Triumph T-shirts and 501 stoves.

The latter I’m wearing a pair of now.

Just timeless. Especially when carrying on one’s shoulders a Siamese Cat, Cats. 🙂

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 12:49 am

And Dover…thanks for the Art.

Off to the Istrian peninsula tomorrow. Destination Opatija. From there we’ll be touring the locality and the Remains of Rome.

By the way…I’m the short one. 😀

Rabz
September 17, 2022 12:56 am

Deadpan parody of progressive influencers

Had she not opted out of politicking?

Either way, love her curvy new bottomage. 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

No risk of exposure these days – we have TikTok nurses and aspiring rappers for social commentary.

TikTok nurses with a George Cross.

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 1:10 am

On protest songs and war.

The enigma wrapped in a mystery.

I know the best version is Buffy’s. But the visuals in this one are…compelling.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 1:16 am

It does seem that the (formerly) hot chilli has taken the bait.
Again.
🙂

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 1:16 am

In the interest of balance, Jan and Dean wrote this parody:

“The Universal Coward”

He’s young, he’s old, he’s inbetween and he’s so very much confused
He’ll scrounge around and protest all day long
He joins the pickets at Berkeley, and he burns up his draft card
And he’s twisted into thinkin’ fightin’ is all wrong
(Universal coward)

He’s a pacifist, an extremist, a communist or just a yank
A demostrator, an agitator, just a knave
A conscientious objector, a fanatic or a defector
And he doesn’t know he’s diggin’ his own his grave
(Universal coward)

Aww, he just can’t get it through his thick skull
Why the mighty U.S.A
Has got to be the watchdog of the world
Else that greedy U.S.S.R. will bury us from afar
And he’ll never see the missiles bein’ hurled
(Universal coward)

He’s the universal coward, and he runs from anything
From a giant, from a human, from an elf
He runs from Uncle Sam, he runs from Vietnam
But most of all he’s runnin’ from himself
(Universal coward)

Make up your own minds.

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 1:19 am

Who is Hot Chilli?

calli
calli
September 17, 2022 1:34 am

Don’t answer. I think I might know. Another blog with a little cross fertilisation.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 17, 2022 1:46 am

Daniel Andrews tightens screws with new ‘nanny-state’ rules in Victoria

Walkers and riders face heavy new fines for not using ­government-sanctioned trails in Victoria, while swimmers could be barred from using some waterways without a necessary permit.

The planned new Andrews government regulations, affecting more than 50 city and regional parks, have been criticised as “nanny state” measures.

They also allow for the wider imposition of fines for rock climbers and other adventurists who fail to adhere to strict controls over the way they pursue their sport.

The draft regulations include fines for anyone who fills a chainsaw with oil and petrol on a soft surface such as grass and dirt and a ban on “intrusive” scientific studies and visitor surveys in parks.

The controversial moves are outlined in the government’s proposed Metropolitan and Regional Parks Regulations, which also lay the framework for the wider use of permits, user-pays systems and restrictions to access, which are already among the toughest in the world in parks in parts of the state.

When enacted, they will affect some of Victoria’s best-known parks, stretching from near the NSW border in the east, across Melbourne and politically sensitive regional centres including Ballarat, Bendigo and Shepparton.

The regulations state that land managers may set aside tracks for walking or riding and that “a person must not, in a park, leave a track set aside for walking or riding…’’

The penalty for walking off the track is $924, $1840 for filling a chainsaw in the wrong place, $1472 for conducting “any intrusive research” such as a scientific study and $1840 for breaching rules where public land is set aside to ban sport or recreational ­activity.

The reforms follow an unprecedented campaign by the government in its parks to gut rock climbing in Australia’s two key destinations – the Grampians and Mt Arapiles in western Victoria – where participation has dived in the past three years, including after the pandemic lockdowns ended.

Under the government’s timeline, the regulations, after being reviewed during the consultation process, are due to come into force by the end of this month or next month, in the lead-up to the November 26 election.

Australian Climbing Association Victorian president Mike Tomkins said the decision to include Macedon Regional Park, just outside Melbourne, in the regulatory list could affect some of the best rock climbing close to the city.

The proposed regulations read that a person must not rock climb, abseil, hang glide or paraglide in any park unless with the use of a special permit or if an area is set aside by the government for the pursuit.

“Everything is leading to the point of more and more control,” Mr Tomkins said.

A spokeswoman for Environment Minister Lily D’Ambrosio said the reforms would be pursued only to preserve parks or heritage.

“The regulations do not ­restrict any activities that are currently allowed and will only be used to restrict an activity if it is necessary to protect the environment, cultural heritage and safety,” she said.

“(The department) is considering the submissions and will develop recommendations for the minister in coming weeks.”

Opposition environment spokesman James Newbury said the government was failing to find the balance between protecting parks and intruding on liberties.

“Instead, Labor takes a nanny-state approach and has repeatedly taken extreme measures which lock land away from the community,” he said.

“Conservation relies on the community being involved and invested in the future of our unique lands.”

The new regulations, if enacted in full, have been framed for a wide number of parks in Victoria that aren’t currently covered by such laws. It includes for the first time special set aside provisions in the parks that enable certain activities to be banned or restricted.

The clampdown comes after the government has overhauled rock climbing in Victoria under the guise of protecting cultural heritage, which includes separate heavy penalties for wrongdoing under the relevant legislations.

Oz

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 2:21 am

The penalty for walking off the track is $924, $1840 for filling a chainsaw in the wrong place, $1472 for conducting “any intrusive research” such as a scientific study and $1840 for breaching rules where public land is set aside to ban sport or recreational ­activity.

Fascists gotta Fascist.

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 2:33 am

Just talking to a young bloke who’s career was almost ended by the vax.

He’s here trying to get a job flying the twin otters to punch out hours towards his commercial pilot’s license.

Vax gave him an elevated heart rate for three months.

Mater
September 17, 2022 3:00 am

Vax gave him an elevated heart rate for three months.

ROSIE!
Time for some googling.

RickW,
Was that confirmed by a randomised, double blind trial?

Mater
September 17, 2022 3:36 am

Vax gave him an elevated heart rate for three months

C’mon peoples!
There must be something on the interwebs which counteracts this heresy.

Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 4:15 am
Jorge
Jorge
September 17, 2022 5:32 am
rosie
rosie
September 17, 2022 6:18 am

Looks like the ‘under 12 hours’ fruitcake had boiled dry.
The only changes in Sweden are the approval of the bivalent variants of the vaxes.

‘The first vaccines, approved on September 1st, are the Comirnaty Original/Omicron BA.1 and Spikevax bivalent Original/Omicron BA.1. These are booster vaccines which will be available for those aged 12 and above who have completed one course of the vaccine against Covid-19. The third vaccine, approved on September 12th, is an adapted version of the mRNA Covid-19 vaccine Comirnaty (Pfizer/BioNTech), designed to target the Omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5 in addition to the original strain of SARS-CoV-2. These are the two variants which have dominated Covid-19 infections in Sweden this summer.’when will the new covid 19 vaccines be available in Sweden

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2022 6:25 am

As for the malignant trolling of my comments, I’ll note that 99.9% of the anti vaxx tripe that gets posted here goes through to the keeper and only rarely do I bother to query some of the most outlandish nonsense.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2022 6:44 am

Remember their names, peoples, because no obnoxious screechy inner city collectivist hypocrite will.

I remember Bob Chappell.

The state said his life was worth less than an armed robbery because they declared a woman was guilty.

Does that mean women are incompetent at everything, including being evil – save for the banality of being evil?

Come at me sis.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2022 6:45 am

I’ll note that 99.9% of the anti vaxx tripe that gets posted here goes through to the keeper and only rarely do I bother to query some of the most outlandish nonsense.

Most are wides, no balls or dead balls.

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2022 6:47 am

Vax gave him an elevated heart rate for three months.

I was shocked by how and how many people just accepted “Pfizer Arm” as a thing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 17, 2022 6:48 am

The Kyiv Security Compact was formally presented to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who endorsed it, published it on the website of the Ukrainian presidency, and supports its adoption

The document specifies for “the US, UK, Canada, Poland, Italy, Germany, France, Australia, Turkey, and Nordic, Baltic, and Central European countries” to make “legally and politically binding” agreements” that ally them with “Ukraine in its ongoing war against Russia.”

The document was drafted by a long list of Washington’s bought-and-paid-for European puppets, co-chaired by former Danish Prime Minister and NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of Australia,

https://www.unz.com/proberts/is-reality-over-the-kremlins-head/

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 6:54 am

I went down a rabbit hole last night on FDR & National Recovery Administration.
For such a critical piece of US economic history it really is memory holed.
I think the government response to COVID will go the same way.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 17, 2022 6:55 am

Seeing the over the top bullshit about Queen the last 9 days makes me wonder:
Does the MSM tell massive lies about other topics as well?

min
min
September 17, 2022 6:58 am

Cartoons spot on today Tom
And Calli hope they have removed allthe landmines When iI was there we had to be very careful.

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2022 6:58 am

Looks like someone has changed socks.
Pro tip, it’s a good idea to wash your sock before putting it back on.

min
min
September 17, 2022 7:01 am

Note vaccinated or not , over 200 Covid deaths in Victoria last week

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 7:02 am

Imagine in the early 1930’s, having a distinguishing sign on your business to ensure others knew your compliance to the state.
In the US.

Mater
September 17, 2022 7:27 am

As for the malignant trolling of my comments, I’ll note that 99.9% of the anti vaxx tripe that gets posted here goes through to the keeper and only rarely do I bother to query some of the most outlandish nonsense.

Like when you took a hatchet to Robert Malone’s character, motivations and warnings using an Atlantic article when he was trying to warn people the “he would probably recommend their use only for those at highest risk from COVID-19. Everyone else should be wary, he told me, and those under 18 should be excluded entirely.”

Yeah, that was outlandish nonsense:

Based on passive surveillance reporting in the US, the risk of myocarditis after receiving mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines was increased across multiple age and sex strata and was highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males and young men. This risk should be considered in the context of the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination.

Long-term outcome data are not yet available for COVID-19 vaccine–associated myocarditis cases. The CDC has started active follow-up surveillance in adolescents and young adults to assess the health and functional status and cardiac outcomes at 3 to 6 months in probable and confirmed cases of myocarditis reported to VAERS after COVID-19 vaccination.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 17, 2022 7:39 am

Imagine in the early 1930’s, having a distinguishing sign on your business to ensure others knew your compliance to the state.

Signs of the times?

Trump Voters Put Biden Signs In Their Yards So That The FBI Will Pass Over Them (12 Sep)

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2022 7:41 am

In five days I am meant to get a booster.

No way that is going to happen.

Albanese will cave and get rid of the isolation rules before I am press ganged into another medical experiment.

Tom
Tom
September 17, 2022 7:44 am

Graham Lloyd:

An international study of major weather and extreme events has found no evidence of a “climate emergency” in the record to date.
The study by Italian scientists provides a long-term analysis of heat, drought, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and ecosystem productivity and finds no clear positive trend of extreme events.
The authors do not say that no action should be taken on climate change but argue the issue should be placed in a bigger context.
“Fearing a climate emergency without this being supported by data, means altering the framework of priorities with negative ¬effects that could prove deleterious to our ability to face the challenges of the future, squandering natural and human resources in an economically difficult context,” the report, published in European Physical Journal Plus, said.
The paper – “A critical assessment of extreme events trends in times of global warming” – found the most robust global changes in climate extremes are found in yearly values of heatwaves, but it said global trends in heatwave -intensity were “not significant”.
Daily rainfall intensity and ¬extreme precipitation frequency were stationary.
Tropical cyclones show a “substantial temporal invariance”, as do tornadoes.
The impact of warming on surface and wind speed remained unclear.

The team, led by Gianluca Alimonti from the Italian National Institute for Nuclear Physics and the University of Milan, extended the analysis to include natural disasters, floods, drought, ecosystem productivity and yields of the four main crops (maize, rice, soybean and wheat).
“None of these response indicators show a clear positive trend of extreme events,” the report said.
The authors said it was important to underline the difference ¬between statistical evidence of ¬excess of events, with given characteristic, and probabilistic calculation of anthropogenic attribution of extreme events. The statistical evidence is based on historical observations and tries to highlight differences between these and recent observations or possible trends as a function of time. “The anthropogenic versus natural attribution of the origin of a phenomenon is based on probabilistic models and makes reliance on simulations that hardly reproduce the macro and microphysical variables involved in it,” the ¬researchers said.
“In conclusion, on the basis of observational data, the climate crisis that, according to many sources, we are experiencing today, is not evident yet.”
On floods, the report said: ¬“Although evidence of an increase in total annual precipitation is ¬observed on a global level, corresponding evidence for increases in flooding remains elusive and a long list of studies shows little or no evidence of increased flood magnitudes, with some studies finding more evidence of decreases than increases.”
The paper said there was “no evidence that the areas affected by the different types of drought are increasing”.
In conclusion, the findings do not mean we should do nothing about climate change. “We should work to minimise our impact on the planet and to minimise air and water pollution,” the authors said.
“Whether or not we manage to drastically curtail our carbon dioxide emissions in the coming decades, we need to reduce our vulnerability to extreme weather and climate events.
“How the climate of the twenty-first century will play out is a topic of deep uncertainty. We need to increase our resiliency to whatever the future climate will present us.”

Dot
Dot
September 17, 2022 7:48 am

Somehow, in NSW, I have to put up with Dan Andrews!

From NewsCorp.

But he has a long way to go to convince his counterparts, such as Daniel Andrews, who have raised concerns about the pressure it would heap onto hospitals and healthcare workers.

So I hate Victorians a little bit now. Your inability to excise this cancer is now affecting me.

Please all go and take 20 Pfizer shots right now. It’s double plus good science juice, don’t argue with science, you bigots.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 7:53 am

Daniel Andrews tightens screws with new ‘nanny-state’ rules in Victoria

Victorians deserve Dan Andrews.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 17, 2022 7:53 am

Bullshit

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 17, 2022 7:54 am

It’s your state that totally fucked up the senate

rosie
rosie
September 17, 2022 7:55 am

Oh I remember Malone, it was FTB who linked the very unflattering article about him which I relinked to another thread with an unflattering comment of my own about Malone’s motives iirc and you accused me of having it ‘bookmarked’ and posting it multiple times.
Not only that you didn’t bother to read it or the attached letter in support by his wife before slamming it having wrongly assumed the wifely diatribe was negative, rather that in support of ‘Iwasrobbed’ Malone.
Your pathetic pointless malice is only a reflection on you.
It may surprise but I have zero interest in the opinions of either Malone or any other ‘trusted bloggers’ or yours, for that matter.

Mater
September 17, 2022 7:56 am

Victorians deserve Dan Andrews.

Not the hundreds of thousands who I matched with in the CBD streets. They most certainly do not. That restored my faith, somewhat.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 17, 2022 7:58 am

And the so called Opposition offers more of the same or even worse

Mater
September 17, 2022 8:00 am

So I take it from that, that you recognise you unfairly maligned him…and missed his message in the process.

Thanks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 8:01 am

Groogs! How are those Brittany tapes going? Sounds like you will be needed.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 17, 2022 8:05 am

‘The first vaccines, approved on September 1st, are the Comirnaty Original/Omicron BA.1 and Spikevax bivalent Original/Omicron BA.1……….designed to target the Omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5 in addition to the original strain of SARS-CoV-2.

Ask yourself why they were so desperate to get that original wuhan spike into you, and they still are – despite that variant being long dead. We dont keep giving the same flushot year after year, so why this?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 8:05 am

That restored my faith, somewhat.

We’ll revisit this on Election night. The Victoriastan Lieborals aren’t helping things. As usual.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 17, 2022 8:07 am

In five days I am meant to get a booster.

Pro tip – they aint ‘boosters’, they are ‘remedial shots’.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 8:08 am

Victoriastan really needs an underground resistance. At least they have some great cafes to meet in.

Cassie of Sydney
September 17, 2022 8:08 am

A tale of 50 illegals. Two days ago, a politician who does have some spine and conviction, Governor DeSantis, sent a small number of men and women, about 50 illegals, by aeroplane to a very nice and tony enclave island known as Martha’s Vineyard in Massachusetts, an island inhabited by some of the wealthiest people in the US, including an ex-president. The reaction? Well, youda thinka that the progressive voting hypocritical scum who reside in Martha’s Vineyard would be very happy to accommodate impoverished and desperate men and women, many of whom had trekked hundred of miles to cross the border. Remember, this is the same hypocritical scum who shouted, screamed and wailed about President Trump’s border wall, who shouted, screamed and hurled labels such as “fascist” at Trump because of his administration’s strict immigration policies so youda thinka that these Martha’s Vineyard residents would be more than happy to put up desperate people in their neighbourhoods, you know, to set an example to those hideous MAGA voters and to share the pain, because after all, isn’t “sharing” what progressive Marxism is all about, or should be all about?

Well, the well heeled scum of Martha’s Vineyard weren’t too happy about these 50 or so illegals arriving on their doorstep, in fact they were livid, and they did what progressives do so well, they wailed, they shouted, they yelled, they cried, they lectured and then they tried to smear DeSantis by saying he was “trafficking” human beings. You gotta laugh at the chutzpah of progressive hypocrisy, they truly have no shame, suddenly they’re worried about human trafficking, yet these same people have said nothing about the human trafficking of illegals across the southern border, all because it suits their progressive politics, because it enables them to engage in cheap and adolescent virtue signalling, because they think these illegals will vote Democrat, and finally, because they have long known they don’t have to bear any personal consequences from having porous borders and waking up, stepping out of their mansions and having to avoid stepping on human beings sleeping in their streets.

Well, in news just in, the Massachusetts’ authorities have moved the 50 or so illegals to a military base on Cape Cod, which is on the mainland. Didn’t take long did it? Tis amazing what happens when you upset progressives. Seriously though, you couldn’t make this shit up. The illegals been been taken off the streets of Martha’s Vineyard, and life can resume as normal for the island’s hypocritical inhabitants, they can continue with their cheap virtue signalling and their endless, endless hypocrisy. They won’t have to worry about leaving Zabar’s deli after buying some bagels and a knish or two whilst sipping on their almond latte and then having to worry about stepping on some illegal migrant camping on the street. Quelle horreur! We’ve all long known that those who spruik notions such as open borders and sanctuary towns and cities are hypocrites of the first order but well done to Governor DeSantis because he’s truly exposed the progressive scum for what they are.

Memo to Liz Truss and her new government, after the Queen’s funeral, you should put up the illegals streaming over the channel in the wealthy, very progressive and now Labour voting suburbs of London. Might win you back a few votes in the red wall, those same voters that Boris trashed.

The moral of the tale of Martha’s Vineyard and 50 illegals? Well of course, it’s the never ending stench of progressive hypocrisy but whilst we all know that, it’s still bloody delicious. And Governor DeSantis, he’s truly….Top Gov.

In my mind I’m going to Martha’s Vineyard, but not 50 illegals, they’re not welcome.

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 8:10 am

Any day now Vlad the shirtless defender of Christendom will defeat the infidel West.
Trust me.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 17, 2022 8:14 am

FFS_Scotland was already taken.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 17, 2022 8:15 am

VIC oppo need to run hard on a ‘Public Parks not Dan’s Parks’ angle now. But they won’t.

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 8:17 am

A lawyer was working in his office one day when Satan appeared. “I can make it so you win every case in your career and make huge piles of money. In exchange you will give me your soul, your wife’s soul, your children’s souls, your parent’s souls, your grandparent’s souls and the souls of all your friends!” The lawyer thought it over for a moment and then asked, “What’s the catch?”

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 17, 2022 8:17 am

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police is facing declining trust in the force’s performance and questions about the organization’s integrity. That’s according to internal polling reviewed by Global News that suggests the Mounties face an increasingly skeptical public concerned not only with their job performance but with the national police force’s honesty, integrity and transparency.

Baffling! Hopefully we don’t see the same here – checks calendar, when is my date for trial courtesy of our own AFP?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2022 8:18 am

September 17th, 1944. Commencement of Operation Market Garden – the Allied attempt to capture the bridges over the Rhine, and drive into the Ruhr, with the aim of finishing World War Two, in Europe, by the end of 1944. A poor plan, but one which came closer to sucess then is usually given credit for.

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 8:25 am

I was shocked by how and how many people just accepted “Pfizer Arm” as a thing.

Because they really, really care about our health. Rigging and curtailing the trials, putting an untested drug on the market (with total indemnity, of course) and then advocating for mandates was all for our own good. The resulting multi-billions in their bank accounts while our lives and livelihoods were wrecked was all the reward of virtue.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 17, 2022 8:26 am

Cassie the whole illegal immigration assault in the US shows that class warfare is a big part of it. Warfare against regular productive citizens. Sad to think that a once great republic has come to this. As for the grub in the Whitehouse, how low will he go?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 17, 2022 8:31 am

Ed Casesays:
September 17, 2022 at 6:55 am
Seeing the over the top bullshit about Queen the last 9 days makes me wonder:
Does the MSM tell massive lies about other topics as well?

Dickless

The real question is, does the MSM tell the truth on any topic?

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 8:34 am

Heart attack symptoms as more younger women are experiencing medical emergency

Heart attacks are becoming increasingly more common in women under 50 and medical experts can’t figure out why.

Yes, a real mystery.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2022 8:35 am

Daily Mail

EXCLUSIVE: Convicted wife killer Chris Dawson files appeal against his guilty verdict – after lawyer revealed death threats in jail and his mental health fears

Chris Dawson’s legal team have filed papers to appeal his murder conviction
Legal move at NSW Court of Criminal Appeal precedes sentencing in November
His lawyer Greg Walsh said he’d received serious death threats from inmates
Lyn Dawson’s family want to find where Dawson left her remains in 1982
Detectives believe she may have been buried on the NSW Central Coast

JC
JC
September 17, 2022 8:36 am

Fester, you drivelling imbecile , it’s a joke. You linked to the Bee. FMD, you’re an idiot … and you wanted the science monopoly at the Car. The fuck!

Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 17, 2022 at 7:39 am
Imagine in the early 1930’s, having a distinguishing sign on your business to ensure others knew your compliance to the state.
Signs of the times?

Trump Voters Put Biden Signs In Their Yards So That The FBI Will Pass Over Them (12 Sep)

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
September 17, 2022 8:37 am

Shorter Rosie
“Just shut up and get your jab”.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 17, 2022 8:38 am

Reporting in from Martha’s Vineyard, and I note Cassie’s wise comments above.

No sign of any illegals, but yes they have all been spirited away.

Makes me think that flying them in here was a cunning move to get the progressives to do just what they have done – move them off the well-heeled ones’ doorsteps, thus showing what hypocrites they are. Mrs TE commented on our bus rides around MV today that there were “no derros”, and indeed there weren’t.

The island of Martha’s Vineyard in fact is four little towns, all with very expensive shops designed to sell to well-off tourists. Everything food-wise was about 30-40% more expensive than the mainland. It actually cost us $68US each just for the ferry ride over. Parking in Hyannis – the little town where you board the ferry – had parking for tourists’ cars available at extortionate rates. No illegal immigrant could possibly afford to get a job on MV as they couldn’t find anywhere to live anyway. So it was inevitable they’d be taken to the mainland.

DeSantis and Co have made a good move. It’s all over the front pages here. Listening to Americans’ comments it’s notable that none – that we heard anyway – support the present shambolic disaster of what’s happening on their southern border.

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 8:39 am

This really gives me the creeps. I saw something just yesterday about him releasing them in Florida. What will it take to deliver us from this psychopath?

Bill Gates’ Colombian Mosquito Factory Breeding 30 Million Bacteria-Infected Mosquitos Per Week

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 8:45 am

Twitter has been great overnight.

John Hayward
@Doc_0
1. Sending 50 migrants to Martha’s Vineyard is like the Holocaust

2. HAHAHA, you just gave us a chance to show how compassionate we are

3. We demand emergency assistance

4. Get these damn migrants off our island

5. Call out the National Guard!

ALL IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS

125 National Guard were authorised to “handle” 50 punters.
I saw no footage of them there but the fact the governor approved them can’t be undone.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 8:46 am

More twitter gold.

Sean Davis
@seanmdav

Cartels bringing illegals over the border: not human trafficking.

Biden secretly dumping illegals in red states: not human trafficking.

DeSantis flying 50 illegals to Martha’s Vineyard: chattel slavery.

Martha’s Vineyard elites deporting the illegals: not human trafficking.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 8:46 am

Only [14] days left to save the Daily Exposé.

Frank
Frank
September 17, 2022 8:47 am

From the feminist lady pages. Ontario High School Teacher Seen Wearing Massive Prosthetic Bust to Class. I can’t tell anymore if it is real or if someone is trolling.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 8:47 am

And another one.

Holden
@Holden114
An island with a 16K population and one of the highest concentrations of wealth in the nation was not prepared to feed and house 50 migrants. Is what we’re going with.

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 8:48 am

There was a competition between a team of blondes and a team of brunettes to see who could catch the most fish ice fishing. Once the contest started, it was clear that the brunettes were going to win… they kept pulling out fish after fish. Soon, the blondes got worried and sent over one of their team to see what the brunettes were doing differently. A few minutes later, the blonde comes running back. “A hole! You need to put a hole in the ice!”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 8:49 am

Can someone show me what I linked to regarding Malone?
And when?
And were there any comments to put the link in context?

Zipster
Zipster
September 17, 2022 8:54 am

Only [14] days left to save the Daily Exposé.

buy them a coffee you stinge

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2022 8:54 am

‘Picnic’, ‘women’ among list of words now deemed too offensive

We are living at a bewildering time, as yesterday’s euphemisms and woke terminology become tomorrow’s taboos. If you think language policing is largely practised by US arts students, think again.

By ROSEMARY NEILL
From Review
September 17, 2022
11 minute read
51

Picnic. Women. Young. Old. Smartphone. Addict. All these words have something in common: they belong to a growing list of seemingly innocuous terms that have been deemed by universities, government departments and professional associations to be offensive or problematic.

In our era of performative kindness, representation and inclusion – not to mention sensitivity readers and open letters aimed at cancelling writers and thinkers deemed to have crossed a line – we are seeing a laudable rejection of racist, homophobic and sexist slurs turn into something more troubling: a regime of language policing that makes George Orwell’s Newspeak sound reasonable.

In June 2021, the Prevention, Advocacy & Resource Centre (PARC) at America’s Brandeis University released an “Oppressive Language List” which included the words and expressions “killing it” and “trigger warning” – because of their purported “connections to guns” – as well as “picnic”, “people of colour”, “crazy”, “addict” and “homeless person”.

PARC raised claims – which have been disputed – that “picnic” has historical associations with lynchings, and suggested replacing it with “outdoor eating’’. The university said the list’s “neutral” recommendations were not a requirement for students and staff, yet PARC went on to expand its glossary of oppressive terms in August 2021.

Among the new additions was the expression “whipped into shape” which, according to PARC, could evoke “imagery of enslavement and torture’’. PARC also urged students to replace “addict” with “person with a substance abuse disorder” – such terminology is being increasingly used in the health field – and recommended that “homeless person’’ be abandoned in favour of “person who is experiencing housing insecurity’’.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 17, 2022 8:56 am

Dozens of modest properties and homes are available for rent on AirBnb on Martha’s Vineyard, DailyMail.com can reveal, despite the island’s main homelessness expert claiming there was no affordable housing in which to place migrants.

Private rooms and small guest stays are on offer for $180 a night, which could have been used as a stop gap for the migrants to be housed.

Lisa Belcastro, homelessness director of the island, yesterday claimed that the affluent area has a ‘housing crisis’.

Speaking after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sent two planeloads of migrants to the pretty coastal town, Belcastro claimed that the island cannot support the addition of 50 more people.

Belcastro, who herself lives in a lavish four bed and four bath $3.6million property in a secluded part of the island, is one of the liberal officials who declared it a ‘humanitarian emergency’ – reacting as they would to a hurricane.

Her claims were backed by Gov. Charlie Baker, who said that Martha’s Vineyard, with a population of 15,000, is ‘not equipped to provide sustainable accommodation’ to the migrants.

Earlier today he announced plans to ferry the illegal immigrants across to the mainland to military Joint Base in Cape Cod – 32 miles away.

“…homelessness director of the island”?????

More at the Daily Mail

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 8:56 am

Zipstersays:

September 17, 2022 at 8:54 am

Only [14] days left to save the Daily Exposé.

buy them a coffee you stinge

I think Mr Exposé has quite enough caffeine in his system, thanks all the same.

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 8:57 am

Thanks for the on the ground reporting, TE.

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 8:59 am

This article is from 2014, under Obama. Where were the screams then?

Thousands of Illegal Immigrants Bused Across U.S. into Cities

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 17, 2022 8:59 am

Anyone able to copy/paste the piece by Janet Albrechtsen from the Oz about the inVoice?

Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 9:01 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 17, 2022 9:03 am
shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 9:10 am

‘It was an unmitigated disaster’: COVID lockdown and remote learning has set back kids by ‘up to several GRADES’ and cratered social skills in younger students, education expert says

My two school age Grandees in Danistan reacted different to “home ” schooling .. Master L, very bright, luvs school took to it like a duck takes to water and has gone back into the classroom seamlessly .. tho being a “people” person suffered from missed group/sports interaction ….
Miss G, average student at the best of times treated “home” as a holiday when not watched .. looking like she’ll have to repeat as she improved very little during “lockdown(s)”.. more of a “loner” wasn’t bothered by being secluded …..

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:11 am

FYI.

I just knocked back a $160k/y job offer due to a contract clause which basically said “You ‘may’ be required to obtain covid19 vaccinate or other vaccination as requested by the company”.

Of course I took issue with this, even though this company does not have any current (nor had any) vaccine mandates. HR were saying ‘legally’ they couldn’t take it out. So that was that.

Anyone else seen this kind of clause in new employment contracts?

mem
mem
September 17, 2022 9:15 am

Far out news – look out you krauts.

Our old friend Nostradamus has foretold more upheaval to come.

“”Quatrain 10/22 then allegedly reads: “Because they disapproved of his divorce, A man who later they considered unworthy. The people will force out the King of the islands. A man will replace who never expected to be king.””

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1670132/nostradamus-predictions-queen-death-royal-family-next-spt

The royal family and Germany go way back

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 17, 2022 9:15 am

Business on board with voice as corporate branding exercise Janet AlbrechtsenFollow @jkalbrechtsen

12:00AM September 17, 2022
24 Comments

Following the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Anthony Albanese says he will focus on cementing his promised Indigenous voice in the Constitution ahead of pushing for a republic. That makes sense. After all, many Australians may feel the same way as Tim Shipman.

When the Queen died, The Sunday Times journalist remarked that while he harboured a “bit of a republican spirit in my teenage years”, he “was cured of that by two things: prolonged exposure to elected politicians and Elizabeth II. I feel a bit like I felt when my favourite grandmother died.”

theaustralian.com.au04:24
Voice to parliament likely to take place in second half of 2023
UNSW Professor of Constitutional Law George Williams says it is still likely the Voice to parliament referendum… will take place in the second half of next year. “I’d say the second half of next year because to run this well, I think, will take 12 months,” he told More

Echoing the Prime Minister, a couple of business leaders have said they want the country, and their staff, to focus on an Indigenous voice too. CSL’s Brian McNamee said there was a “greater need” to enshrine an Indigenous voice in the Constitution. Lendlease’s global chief executive Tony Lombardo agreed, saying the building giant was encouraging staff to think about the constitutional changes required for an Indigenous voice. Lendlease was “right behind” the Uluru Statement from the Heart, he said this week.

Sweeping statements of support for the voice sum up a large chunk of corporate Australia today, especially chief executives who sit atop other people’s money.

It beggars belief that so few of them, if any, have thought deeply about this change, pondering its scope, its power, its constitutional and governance implications and how it will address disadvantage.

If they have considered these critical details, it would assist this national debate if they shared them publicly.

Is there a single faddish issue (defined as any issue that consists of feel-good statements ideally used to attract sympathetic media mentions) that corporate bosses do not embrace these days as a branding exercise?

Any self-respecting business leader ought to know the devil is in the detail. When facing a corporate restructure, a takeover or a merger, chief executives use teams of qualified experts to advise them on the finer details of what it means for them and for shareholders.

But on the voice, so many chief executives resort to vibey slogans. They sound frightfully hip in social justice land, where nothing real is measured, only one’s image. No doubt some have a genuine personal attachment to Indigenous matters. But none of them appears to have undertaken scrupulous analysis to determine what is right and what is wrong about this proposal.

They could start by offering a forensic analysis of how Albanese’s proposed amendment to the Constitution to establish the voice will affect our parliamentary democracy. We are not drafting a mission statement; this is a proposed alteration to the rule book that determines how and by whom we are governed. Now that we have the text of the proposal, in the form of the Albanese Amendment, we can better understand the risks this amendment creates for effective government and for parliamentary supremacy.

Unless one is a reckless risk-taker with our Constitution, diligent and expert legal analysis of the impact of the Albanese Amendment is surely the precondition for all public advocates for the Yes team. Indeed, how does a corporate leader meet their fiduciary obligations to shareholders by advocating for the Albanese Amendment without knowing precisely what the practical impacts will be on our system of government and on their companies?

So, yes, let’s now focus on the detailed implications of the Albanese Amendment to our founding document. To that end, here are 10 questions for members of the Yes team who have hitherto limited themselves to expressing a vibe, an emotion and a slogan.

In truth, the Prime Minister should have sought answers to these questions before unveiling the Albanese Amendment. To have announced it without first getting careful legal advice on the issues below would be remarkably negligent.

After all, the Solicitor-General was able to act quickly to advise on the constitutional and legal implications of Scott Morrison assuming five secret ministries.

The Albanese Amendment, by contrast, is a permanent change that demands extensive and expert legal advice. Where is the Solicitor-General’s careful advice on this?

Separate to the Prime Minister’s responsibilities, chief executives of companies the size of CSL and Lendlease should be getting their own advice on these matters. Given they owe that level of diligence, as a bare minimum, to their shareholders, chief executives should feel free to copy and paste the below questions for internal consideration to satisfy shareholders that this suggested reform has been analysed diligently by management.

In answering each of these questions, please don’t rely on hopes and wishes: instead, demand cold hard legal reasons for each conclusion.

Questions

1. Can you guarantee that the High Court of Australia won’t have the final say on the key features of the voice, including its budget, staffing, processes, timing and the breadth of what constitutes “matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”?

2. If you do guarantee to voters that parliament’s power is supreme, and that neither the current High Court, nor any future High Court, will get involved in litigation concerning the voice, on what basis is that guarantee made?

3. How can you presume to know what a High Court will decide given that the court’s composition changes over time, and will change over the next few years with the retirement of two justices?

4. Can you guarantee that the voice, and therefore the court’s intervention, will be limited to matters solely relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people? If not, what matters that relate to non-Indigenous Australians will the voice be entitled to make representations about?

5. If you are unable to determine in advance of High Court rulings the matters before parliament and executive government that the voice can choose to involve itself in, do you agree that the voice potentially will be able to frustrate urgent laws and decisions that may need to be made by parliament and executive, respectively?

6. Can you guarantee that the High Court will not involve itself in what is proper consideration by parliament or executive government of representations by the voice? What will be the consequence of failure to consult the voice properly in relation to a proposed act of parliament or an act or omission of executive government? Is the relevant proposed act or action invalid?

7. Can you guarantee that the body called the voice, enshrined in the Constitution, will not be controlled, from time to time, by factions that represent more radical Indigenous activists whose interests may differ markedly from other Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people?

8. What definition of Aboriginality will determine eligibility to vote for or to sit on this body? Can you guarantee that parliament, not the High Court, will in all cases ultimately determine who is eligible to vote for or sit on the body called the voice?

9. Remembering that both the Yes case and the No case were equally funded during the republic referendum, will the Prime Minister guarantee that equal funding will be given to both the Yes case and the No case to ensure that the debate about altering our founding document will be fair? Or will the Prime Minister repeat his actions when proposing to recognise local government in the Constitution in 2013, where he offered the No side 1/20th ($500,000) of what the Yes camp was promised ($10m)?

10. What is it, specifically, about the voice that will make a difference in addressing the tragic levels of Indigenous disadvantage, given that decades of consulting with Indig­enous leaders and communities has failed to ensure that Indigenous children complete school at the same rate as non-Indigenous children, that getting a job is a mainstream Indigenous ambition along with providing a safe home for Indigenous men, women and children?

A charitable observer must assume that detailed legal advice on all these critical questions already exists and that it will be made public very soon so voters can properly analyse this proposed constitutional change. Not seeking legal advice would be irresponsible. Suppressing it would be unthinkable. Either path is dangerous for the Albanese government. It would destroy the legitimacy of the referendum by asking Australians to recklessly gamble with the future governance of the country.
Janet Albrechtsen
Columnist

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:15 am

Only took 48 hours for this “welcoming community” to start deporting.

Where’s monty?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 9:15 am

I just knocked back a $160k/y job offer due to a contract clause which basically said “You ‘may’ be required to obtain covid19 vaccinate or other vaccination as requested by the company”.

In Japan presumably?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 17, 2022 9:16 am

Thanks ZK2A.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 17, 2022 9:17 am

Certificate awarded to Struth, me and a few others on this blog;

https://substack.com/redirect/85ad9aa8-1091-4821-a295-6d33f108d116?r=ho9bj

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:18 am

Business on board with voice as corporate branding exercise

Great way to alienate your customers.

And presumably they’ll drop it like a hot potato when it’s rebuffed in the referendum.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 17, 2022 9:18 am

The welcome sign on the road to Martha’s Vineyard is the best self-own of all. Not even the Bee could do better.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 17, 2022 9:20 am

Cannon’s second order appointed Judge Raymond J. Dearie to serve as special master and established his responsibilities and other logistical duties. Trump proffered Dearie, a semi-retired senior judge for the Eastern District of New York, as one of two recommended candidates. Dearie’s recommendation raised some eyebrows given that Dearie, who had served for seven years on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act or “FISA” court, had signed the fourth faulty Carter Page surveillance order that allowed federal intelligence agencies to spy on Trump’s administration and campaign.

While the DOJ objected to the other candidate proposed by Trump, the government agreed that Dearie would be acceptable. In accepting the special master assignment, Dearie, a Reagan appointee, signed a declaration attesting that he had no known conflicts of interest.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/16/trump-scores-two-huge-victories-in-fight-for-special-master/

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:20 am

Eventually there will be a new separate tax listed on everyone’s rates notice which will be a rent for basically squatting on First Nation peoples land.

If you don’t like it, move to another country. 🙂

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 17, 2022 9:21 am

September 17th, 1944. Commencement of Operation Market Garden – the Allied attempt to capture the bridges over the Rhine, and drive into the Ruhr, with the aim of finishing World War Two, in Europe, by the end of 1944. A poor plan, but one which came closer to sucess then is usually given credit for.

Their resistance at the Rhine shows the nazi leadership *still* hadn’t admitted the war was lost – if they had, they would have stiffened their forces on the Eastern front so as to ensure it was the allies, not the soviets, who occupied Germany.

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:22 am

Rogersays:
September 17, 2022 at 9:18 am
Business on board with voice as corporate branding exercise

Great way to alienate your customers.

And presumably they’ll drop it like a hot potato when it’s rebuffed in the referendum.

I like your optimism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 9:23 am

Those illegal immigrants are lucky Ted Kennedy isn’t around to give them a lift.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 9:23 am

If you don’t like it, move to another country.

And how are things in the Land of the Rising Sun?

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:25 am

Speaking of referenda, ABC radio had former ARM chief John Warhurst on this morning.

He conceded two things:

If Elbow lost the inVoice the republic debate would be delayed indefinitely

Trump! Trump! Trump! gave a bad name to republicanism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 9:27 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
September 17, 2022 9:27 am

If you don’t like it, move to another country. ?

What?? after being ‘welcomed’ to this one so many times??

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:28 am

I like your optimism.

You can tell how well it’s going by the fact that Elbow & Burney thought getting Shaq to lecture Australians on racism in a series of videos was a good idea.

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 9:29 am

A charitable observer must assume that detailed legal advice on all these critical questions already exists and that it will be made public very soon so voters can properly analyse this proposed constitutional change. Not seeking legal advice would be irresponsible. Suppressing it would be unthinkable. Either path is dangerous for the Albanese government. It would destroy the legitimacy of the referendum by asking Australians to recklessly gamble with the future governance of the country.
Janet Albrechtsen
Columnist

How can anyone vote on a change to the Australian Constitution when the wording of that change has not been written down to be read and considered. Will such wording be put forward to vote upon? If so when? And if there is no wording then how can this ‘change’ be voted on.

It’s like signing a blank cheque and just handing it over………………………

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:30 am

Matersays:
September 17, 2022 at 7:56 am
Victorians deserve Dan Andrews.

Not the hundreds of thousands who I matched with in the CBD streets. They most certainly do not. That restored my faith, somewhat.

Yep. You deserve a lot better. But the Hunchback will get back in, most likely in a landslide.

The average victorian loves being told what to do and think.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 9:32 am

I expect references to the Voice referendum will become fewer and fewer over time. Particularly towards the next election. I may be wrong but remember The Golden Rule.

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 9:32 am

Big_Nambassays:
September 17, 2022 at 9:17 am
Certificate awarded to Struth, me and a few others on this blog;

https://substack.com/redirect/85ad9aa8-1091-4821-a295-6d33f108d116?r=ho9bj

I already have one.

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 9:32 am

Stick ya cirt…

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 9:33 am

Cert

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 9:34 am

Where is Boaty McBoatless, the trouserless troubadour?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 17, 2022 9:34 am

On Trusted Bloggers.

Covid Injections Are Dangerous, What You Can Do If You’ve Had One or Two

The Exposé reporting it’s current poster boy:

Dr. Shoemaker: In the British study, non-vaccinated children continue to die at a low, modest, hardly noticeable rate, 10 to 14-year-olds. For the 10 to 14-year-olds that got the shot, their death rate went from 52 times more to 82 times more to now over 100 times more – that’s 10,000% more likely to die if you’re a 10 to 14-year-old if you’re given the shot than if you don’t.

Let’s go to the data (Table 6):

For England, in the 17 month period to 31 May 2022:

• Deaths of unvaccinated 10 to 14 yo’s with Covid recorded = 9;

• Deaths of vaccinated 10 to 14 yo’s with Covid recorded = 1 (one).

Out of an age group population of ~3.4 million.

Now this tells us about the vanishingly small risk that Covid poses to the young – and (considered along with zero herd immunity) questions why anyone would even consider jabbing that age group with a vaccine that has such significant and serious side effects.

But it also highlights the absolute, dishonest shite spread by trusted bloggers.

Anyone seriously stating “10,000% more likely to die if you’re a 10 to 14-year-old if you’re given the shot than if you don’t” on the basis of a near invisible data set, is either deliberately misinforming, or statistically hopeless.

In the case of The Exposé misinformation is stock in trade as it grifts for its next ‘cup of coffee’.

Form your own judgement about Dr Shoemaker.

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 9:34 am

1. Can you guarantee that the High Court of Australia won’t have the final say on the key features of the voice, including its budget, staffing, processes, timing and the breadth of what constitutes “matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”?

Given that the HC, regularly, overturns/reverses decisions already taken at ministerial level regarding immigration/boat folk I would expect HC powers/involvement should have been front and centre sorted before anything else was considered ……!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 17, 2022 9:36 am

Test

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:37 am

flyingduksays:
September 17, 2022 at 9:27 am
If you don’t like it, move to another country. ?

What?? after being ‘welcomed’ to this one so many times??

LOL yeah haha. It seems to have crept in over the last few years.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 9:37 am

Form your own judgement about Dr Shoemaker.

Attention seeking grifter?

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 9:38 am

If you don’t like it, move to another country. ?
What?? after being ‘welcomed’ to this one so many times??

definite! .. 12/10 .. well dun! LOL!

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:40 am

Rogersays:
September 17, 2022 at 9:28 am
I like your optimism.

You can tell how well it’s going by the fact that Elbow & Burney thought getting Shaq to lecture Australians on racism in a series of videos was a good idea.

Does anyone know what the modern definition of ‘racist’ is?

I’m thinking by the way it seems to be used is ‘anyone one who disagrees with anything the left says’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 9:40 am

Thanks Dr F for wading through the swill that is the Daily Exposé.
I can rarely get past the first 2-3 paragraphs of tripe.
If you ever see Sancho’s name on the cup of coffee roll, you will know my bank account has been hacked.

Mater
September 17, 2022 9:42 am

Can someone show me what I linked to regarding Malone?
And when?

No, because you didn’t. Not on this Cat anyway.

She’s probably referring to Dr Faustus:

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/15/open-thread-sunday-evening-15-aug-2021/comment-page-3/#comment-946

You did link to an Atlantic article in the days prior, but one that merely highlighted Biden’s ineptness.

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/15/open-thread-sunday-evening-15-aug-2021/comment-page-5/#comment-1425

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:43 am

I expect references to the Voice referendum will become fewer and fewer over time. Particularly towards the next election. I may be wrong but remember The Golden Rule.

I don’t expect we’ll see Shaq’s little clips, which is a pity really as I’m sure they would have made a positive contribution to the debate. Cough.

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 9:44 am

Their resistance at the Rhine shows the nazi leadership *still* hadn’t admitted the war was lost – if they had, they would have stiffened their forces on the Eastern front so as to ensure it was the allies, not the soviets, who occupied Germany.

Methinx the failure of Market Garden had more to do with dropping paratroops & equipment miles from their objective(s) and failing to take into account (or missed) there was a, battle-hardened, Panzer regiment resting up & refitting in the target area ……..

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 9:45 am

Does anyone know what the modern definition of ‘racist’ is?

Why, yes…

A racist is a white person who believes all people should have equal rights and responsibilities regardless of the colour of their skin.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 9:48 am
Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 17, 2022 9:50 am

What was m0nty saying yesterday about Martha’s Vineyard wealthy “progressives” accommodating the illegal immigrants?

https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1570809025054535684?cxt=HHwWiMDTxYuf0cwrAAAA

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 17, 2022 9:50 am

The average victorian loves being told what to do and think.

More pragmatic than that.
TaliDan has expanded the government into nearly all the social and economic functions of the state.
People owe their positions or pay to the state. A thirty six billion payroll buys lots of influence and loyalty.
The regulatory police apparatus keeps business in check for fear of a visit from the inspectors.
Big business has done the devil’s deal with the regime to win contracts and keep sweet with Dan’s union mafia.
He keeps legislating absurdly punitive regulations on all manner of usual human activities or interactions.
What this petty tyrant perpetrated on the populace should have been no surprise. Only when he sought to have citizens indefinitely detained by the say of a committee, without recourse to a court, did the legal community raise mild concerns and Dan blinked.
The main hope is that the progressive potentate tires of the job and the underlings take over. There’s usually very little to back up one man personality regimes and the successors always fail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 9:52 am

I don’t expect we’ll see Shaq’s little clips, which is a pity really …

Destined to join Scotty Cam’s apprentice ads on the Canberra cutting room floor even before the cheque is banked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 17, 2022 9:54 am

Because they disapproved of his divorce, A man who later they considered unworthy. The people will force out the King of the islands.

That Nostradamus bloke must have been something else.

Predicting the activities of Wayne Carey 500 years in advance.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 9:55 am

keeps legislating absurdly punitive regulations on all manner of usual human activities or interactions.

Good luck having the gliberals remove any of them, if they’re ever elected, which seems highly unlikely.

johanna
johanna
September 17, 2022 9:56 am

Sancho Panzer says:
September 16, 2022 at 3:49 pm

Johanna.
I just bought a modem from my new internet supplier.
I think it was $150.
It is my property.
If I change providers I can nominate that I am providing my own modem.
It sounds like you have been subjected to a typical Telstra gouge.

Nah. I paid $144 for my dongle (ugh!) which I now own and can use on any machine with any provider.

The’ve certainly come down in price – I remember paying $400 for the first one more than 20 years ago.

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 9:57 am

Farmer Gezsays:
September 17, 2022 at 9:50 am

The regulatory police apparatus keeps business in check for fear of a visit from the inspectors.

I’m hoping Ian Cook comes through with a big win on this one.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 9:57 am

Scotty Cam’s apprentice ads

Another legendary example of the sensible and productive expenditure of taxpayers’ dollars by our beloved politicians.

Rabz
September 17, 2022 10:01 am

a typical Telstra gouge

Had to deal with them again – just taken up their new 5G offer, which is $10 a month cheaper than my current plan. They’ve sent me a new modem, which I didn’t think was needed. Be interesting to see if it’s the same modem when removed from the box.

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 10:02 am

Thanks Dr F for wading through the swill that is the Daily Exposé

Indeed, I’m not a medical expert so my fall back in regard to trust is the willingness to call out rubbish even when they themselves are sceptical of the vax. Plus enyone that needs to be seen as some resistance fighter is also a flag.

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 10:03 am

A man went into a local tavern and took a seat at the bar next to a women patron. He turned to her and said “This is a special day, I’m celebrating”. “What a coincidence” said the woman “I’m celebrating, too”. She clinked glasses with him and asked “What are you celebrating?” “I’m a chicken farmer” he replied. “For years all my hens were infertile, but today they’re finally fertile”. “What a coincidence, the woman said. “My husband and I have been trying to have a child. Today, my gynaecologist told me I’m pregnant!” How did your chickens become fertile?” she asked. “I switched cocks” he replied. “What a coincidence” she said.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 10:05 am

Plus enyone that needs to be seen as some resistance fighter is also a flag.

FFS, can you spellcheck before you post?
It’s flog.
Not flag.
Flog!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 17, 2022 10:06 am

There’s always one (the Hun):

A male was tackled to the ground by police after appearing to rush at the Queen’s coffin.

The shocking incident unfolded around 10pm local time at Westminster Hall hours after the Queen’s children held a vigil in the monarch’s honour.

Police arrested the man which left onlookers stunned.

Evidently the bloke was making a grab for the Royal Standard.

No word yet as to whether his limbs have been cut off and sent to Cornwall, Wales, York and East Anglia as a warning.

johanna
johanna
September 17, 2022 10:06 am

He keeps legislating absurdly punitive regulations on all manner of usual human activities or interactions.

Not to mention the continual assaults on private property. The recent one where the State can mandate that people are allowed to camp or caravan by the river, when the river can only be accessed through farmland, and the landowner has no say whatsoever, is outrageous.

Imagine if you have valuable livestock, and anybody can drive through your property and camp. Gates could be left open, animals could be harassed or worse by dogs and yahoos, rubbish left around – too bad. Then there are the biosecurity issues.

It says a lot about the weak condition of democracy in Vicco that this didn’t cause a massive political brawl.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 17, 2022 10:07 am

True Rabz.
Victoria need a citizens freedom audit to review all laws and regulations to remove coercive powers and fines.
All senior public positions should be declared vacant.
Local government should have strictly limited operational parameters. All political involvement in council elections should be banned.

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 10:08 am

My old man taught me how to swim.
He took me out on a row boat into the middle of a lake and shoved me in.
The hardest part was getting out of the sugar bag.

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 10:12 am

Had to deal with them again – just taken up their new 5G offer, which is $10 a month cheaper than my current plan. They’ve sent me a new modem, which I didn’t think was needed. Be interesting to see if it’s the same modem when removed from the box.

Seems to be a thing with some providers .. new modems .. my mob sends me a “newie” at least once, sometimes twice, a year never bothered swapping the original over as it still worx .. have 6 unopened boxes in the cupboard … LOL!

P
P
September 17, 2022 10:17 am

Johanna, you may find this article of some interest:

Admirers of Agatha Christie have much to be thankful for this month. On September 6, we got a new biography to dig into—Lucy Worsley’s Agatha Christie: An Elusive Woman—and now, on top of that, we have a tribute to the incomparable Miss Marple.

MatrixTransform
September 17, 2022 10:17 am

I can rarely get past the first 2-3 paragraphs of tripe.

sancho follows the links and reads

then has fits of eye-rolling

LoL

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 10:22 am

Telsta don’t replace routers best of chucking it out and getting one with better security.

Franx
Franx
September 17, 2022 10:29 am

The jab has been said to have led to a peace of mind as well as a ticket to ride, and in some cases, possibly very many cases (I can only hope not because people I love have been jabbed), caused harm; and if Chomsky had his way, the jab would allow you to eat. Essentially, though, the jab has been a violation if not upon all then upon many. So now that the pendulum has been let swing, we would prefer to not reflect on the jab. But the jab has become a metaphor which in extension is that of the dogs of war having been let slip. From this perspective, to maintain the rightness of the jab is to avoid insight into what might be true. I suppose if we drew up something like a T bar noting the jab on one side and the concomitant violations and social atrocities and evils on the other, we might get a clearer picture. We might notice, for instance, that the mutilation of children and the denial of biological humanity had its correlates in the jabbing of children and of workers denied bodily autonomy. And so on. The people who knew and feared all this were those that pushed prams and carried children on shoulders as they marched. Hence it seems to me that the underlying struggle about the jab is valid for it is also about the big picture, a perspective of which becomes clearer with the lens of honesty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 10:36 am

bespokesays:

September 17, 2022 at 10:02 am

Thanks Dr F for wading through the swill that is the Daily Exposé

Indeed, I’m not a medical expert so my fall back in regard to trust is the willingness to call out rubbish even when they themselves are sceptical of the vax. 

Without downplaying his sterling fact-checking efforts, the stuff Dr F called out this morning didn’t require specialist medical knowledge.
Just a keen eye for statistical pea ‘n thimble tricks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 10:36 am

Franxsays:

September 17, 2022 at 10:29 am

The jab has been said … etcetera … etcetera

Sure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 10:36 am

I’m hoping Ian Cook comes through with a big win on this one

Need more Freedom Slugs.

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 10:41 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 17, 2022 10:41 am

The TAC is a case in point. The very act of driving in Victoriastan is conducted under the dead hand of the State.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 10:53 am

MatrixTransformsays:

September 17, 2022 at 10:17 am

Don’t be concerned about me.
If I was youse, I’d be more worried about how long it will take before the interior designer starts telling you that British Paints Arctic Snow is sooo last year, and you need to re-paint the whole place in Dulux Lexicon (half strength).

Johnny Rotten
September 17, 2022 10:57 am

Three engineers and three accountants were travelling by train to a conference.

At the station, the three accountants each buy tickets and watch as the three engineers buy only a single ticket.

“How are you three going to travel on only one ticket?” one of the accountants asks. “Watch and you will see” answers one of the engineers.

They all board the train. The three accountants take their respective seats, but the three engineers all cram into a restroom and close the door behind them.

Shortly after the train has departed, the conductor comes around collecting tickets. He knocks on the restroom door and says “Ticket please”.

The door opens just a crack and a single arm emerges with a ticket in hand. The conductor takes it and moves on.

The accountants saw this and agreed it was a very clever idea. So after the conference, they decide to copy the engineers and purchase a single ticket on the return journey to save money.

When they get to the station, they buy a single ticket there. To their amazement, the engineers buy no tickets at all.

One of the accountants asks “How are you going to travel without any ticket?” “Watch and you will see” one of the engineers replies.

When they board the train, the three accountants cram into one restroom and the three engineers cram into another one nearby. The train departs.

Shortly after it has departed, one of the engineers leaves his place and walks over to the restroom where the accountants are hiding. He knocks on the door and says “Ticket please”.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 17, 2022 10:59 am

Roger says:
September 17, 2022 at 9:45 am

Does anyone know what the modern definition of ‘racist’ is?

Why, yes…

A racist is a white person!

FIFY.

2dogs
September 17, 2022 11:00 am

[youtube clip] we don’t have the services to take care of 50 immigrants

If somewhere as wealthy as Martha’s Vineyard can not take care of illegal immigrants, how could anywhere else in the US be expected to be able to do so?

MatrixTransform
September 17, 2022 11:02 am

Don’t be concerned about me.

sancho, you used to be funnier

before the mask fell … so to speak

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 17, 2022 11:03 am

Nearly two thirds of Australians are credulous numpties.

A third of Aussies fear losing their homes to climate change (Phys.org)

Six in 10 Australians (62%) expect climate change will have a severe effect in their area over the next 10 years and globally across 34 countries more than 71%, including a majority in every single country, expect the same, a new study conducted by Ipsos for the World Economic Forum finds.

More than one-third globally (35%), and 29% in Australia expect to be displaced from their home as a result of climate change in the next 25 years.

We have to live next to these people. Sheesh.

johanna
johanna
September 17, 2022 11:03 am

Thanks for the Marple heads up, P. Look forward to reading that one.

calli may also be interested.

JC
JC
September 17, 2022 11:06 am

That’s really unfair, 2dogs. Although, its the end of summer and most of the extreme wealthy have now gone back to their regular homes – meaning a large percentage of the summer cottages, on the island, are now empty and could be used to house 50 “undocumented”, you can’t expect these people to make such sacrifices.

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 11:07 am

Nearly two thirds of Australians are credulous numpties.

Those polls aren’t exactly scientific, Bruce.

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 11:13 am

you can’t expect these people to make such sacrifices.

Exactly! Sacrifice is for us peasants! Besides, what if these grubby third worlders soiled things? You would need to gut the cottage and redecorate it. It’s just not economically viable.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 11:14 am

Just finished some fully unlicensed plumbing.
Toilet cistern in the West Wing leaking.
Replaced all the seals in the cistern.
Done.
But gave the tap a crack to shut it off.
It then leaked.
Replaced washer and seal.
Leaked through the spindle.
Fuck it.
New tap, new hose, the lot.
20 minute job turns into 3 hours running backwards and forwards to Big Hardware.

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 11:14 am

H B Bearsays:
September 17, 2022 at 10:36 am
I’m hoping Ian Cook comes through with a big win on this one

Need more Freedom Slugs.

The average Labor voter would say ‘Freedumb Slugs’.

Who wants to be free after all?

m0nty
m0nty
September 17, 2022 11:14 am

Can’t wait for Dom Perrotet to kidnap 50 Sri Lankan refugees from Cabramatta and airdrop them on Rottnest Island to own the lefties.

JC
JC
September 17, 2022 11:15 am

The Vineyard thing is the funniest thing that’s happened for a while. Even though I think DeSantis is really smart, I can’t imagine he would have thought of doing something as poisonously funny like that. It had to come from Mar a Lago. It has Tumpster’s paw prints all over it.
Why?

Back in the late 80s Trump bought a rent controlled building on Central Park South to renovate and sell on. Later on, it was called , Trump Parc. There was a problem though. Even though he bought out a large number of tenants there were a few hold outs. Rent controlled meant dirt cheap rent. So, in order to get the remaining fuckers out, he began “leasing” apartments rent free to hookers and druggies. The hold out left quickly and took the money.

(It ended up being a horrible conversion too. We went there to scope out an apartment to buy, but it was awful.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 11:15 am

How’s the appendage op recovery going JC?

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 11:16 am

Time for a SHOUT OUT .. this one to David Beckham who queued for 13 hours to pay his respects to HER MAJESTY .. said, when interviewed, “My grandparents, if still alive, would have queued and would have expected me too” …… !

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 11:17 am

Just finished some fully unlicensed plumbing.

Hear that helicopter? It’s for you!

First time plumbing offence in Danograd will cost you $19k and 2000 social credits!

Razey
Razey
September 17, 2022 11:17 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 17, 2022 at 11:03 am
Nearly two thirds of Australians are credulous numpties.

Just proves government propaganda works. Even Joseph Goebbels would blush at the level of BS coming from the overlords.

bespoke
bespoke
September 17, 2022 11:18 am

How’s the appendage op recovery going JC?

Terrible, my painting’s didn’t arive.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 11:19 am

First time plumbing offence in Danograd will cost you $19k and 2000 social credits!

Cheaper than getting a plumber!
Man’s gotta know his limitations.
I don’t fuck with gas or electricity.
As much for insurance reasons as anything.

rickw
rickw
September 17, 2022 11:20 am

Munty has a Meme Vineyard injury!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 17, 2022 11:20 am

Terrible, my painting’s didn’t arive.

A bullet dodged.
They will be crass modern artz stuff.

Roger
Roger
September 17, 2022 11:21 am

Can’t wait for Dom Perrotet to kidnap 50 Sri Lankan refugees from Cabramatta and airdrop them on Rottnest Island to own the lefties.

Ah, monty…Good morning. How’s the forehead?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 17, 2022 11:22 am

Not to mention the continual assaults on private property. The recent one where the State can mandate that people are allowed to camp or caravan by the river, when the river can only be accessed through farmland, and the landowner has no say whatsoever, is outrageous.

Whereas in many areas the farmer isn’t allowed to take water from the river for the livestock to drink.
And what about firewood? In some woke areas farmers are forbidden to collect fallen timber for firewood. Is the government going to enforce that against campers?

shatterzzz
September 17, 2022 11:22 am

Can’t wait for Dom Perrotet to kidnap 50 Sri Lankan refugees from Cabramatta and airdrop them on Rottnest Island to own the lefties.

Geez! MONTY, if yer gonna try and crack a “funny” get it right .. FFS!

dum parrot-head would “borrow” 50 SE Asians from Cabramatta and airdrop ’em onto Scotland Island ..

the chances of finding Sri Lankans in Cabramatta are about the same as sighting plod on foot patrol in Fairfield .. LOL!

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