Open Thread – Sunday Evening 15 Aug 2021


Nighthawks, Edward Hopper, 1942

N.B. If you’re commenting here for the first time it goes into automoderation. Once I approve it it should appear immediately and without delay from then on.

Also, can people let me know if they like or dislike the nested comment format. I think it saves having to quote replies to existing comments as you can reply directly (there are also other benefits to this) or do you prefer the old format?

Any other suggestions are welcomed too.


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rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 1:12 pm

Does everyone get flicked to the previous page when they comment?

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Does everyone get flicked to the previous page when they comment?

Yes. Deja vu all over again.

As Dover says, it might take some time to work itself out.

On Catboy “hotness”, nothing a well-aimed brickbat wouldn’t fix. ?

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 1:20 pm

I didn’t get the flick that time.

Must have been the brickbat threat. ?

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 1:21 pm

Why are my comments always finishing with a question mark? I never end my sentences with an upward inflection.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 1:23 pm

I think my complaint fixed it.

WordPress now sentient.

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2021 1:28 pm

“Andrews knew what he was doing. There was zero need to identify the religious beliefs on the engagement party attendees.

I wonder how many Eid parties went ahead after lockdown this year?”

Correct.

Arky
August 17, 2021 1:29 pm

TIK having the time of his life:
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZsANgpOVw

Tom
Tom
August 17, 2021 1:38 pm

I did increase the number of comments to be viewed each page

Great idea, Dover. A lot to be said for 250 comments per page, a la the old Cat. One hundred comments per page was designed by Word Press for blogs with much less daily traffic than Dover’s new Cat will be getting in the coming weeks and months.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2021 1:46 pm

Flying Pigs – I am fairly sure Jo Nova obtained a stand alone copy of WP software right at the start, and stays right away from WP as they are now. Her site doesn’t have the issues we’re seeing on the Kittens and places like Tony Heller’s blog. She’s a science communication grad as I recall, and has had a commendable level of planning and sceptical caution to’ve done all this so long ago.

WUWT also moved to a different commenting plug-in not too long ago.

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 1:56 pm

Dr Faustussays:

August 17, 2021 at 12:46 pm

What we need is a rabid anti-semite, a lecherous geriatric and a sprinkling of PHON conspiracy theorists to spice it up.

And sovereign citizens exchanging DIY explosives recipes.

Please, no.
We don’t want to get [redacted]nitrate and [redacted] in dover’s new Persian rug.

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 2:01 pm

Or I’ve been hacked by Prof. Higgins.

In my defence I am a Professor in the Arts Faculty at Latrobe and therefore have no practical knowledge of anything in the real world which would enable me to do this.

Megan
Megan
August 17, 2021 2:07 pm

The thumbs up button is refusing to…well…go thumbs up for me.

Systems and I do not have a straightforward relationship. It’s like they know I was once a gun tester and they simply roll over and die before I even get to do anything.

Sunday morning I even brought the lovely Samsung tech helper to complete speechlessness when, following carefully every individual step of her instructions to hand over my device to her remote control in order to solve my problem, we got a flat out refusal from their server and a recurring error message on my screen. The phone call continued to tick away for another ten minutes but there was nothing audible from my end. I do hope she has recovered.

Megan
Megan
August 17, 2021 2:09 pm

In my defence I am a Professor in the Arts Faculty at Latrobe

Oh, I am so very sorry.

Delta A
Delta A
August 17, 2021 2:11 pm

Tomsays:
August 17, 2021 at 12:50 pm

Tom, thank you for the link to Tucker Carlson. The entire show is worth watching, although I did think that Mark Steyn seemed a little scatty at times.

Thanks also for your daily toons and WiP. They’re greatly appreciated.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:16 pm

On the Thumbs Up button. Is there a “Most Popular Commenter” at the end of the week? Is there a prize? Can we “like” our own comments and thus increase our chances? Or employ bots?

How about Personal Grooming and General Demeanour?

These are important issues for the cheersquad. ????

areff
areff
August 17, 2021 2:16 pm

A potential problem with WordPress involves censorship, as the outfit booted A Conservative Treehouse.

https://wptavern.com/wordpress-com-gives-conservative-treehouse-the-boot-citing-tos-violations

The key is not to let WordPress host the site and content. Rather, to have it hosted independently.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:17 pm

Oh. I see. The site does not support emojis.

*sob*

🙁

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 2:20 pm

I also fear we will run out of question marks.
It could be as bad as the exclamation mark shortage on the Old Cat when a few people starting hoarding them.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:25 pm

Testing everyone’s patience…

😀
🙂
😉
😐

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 2:27 pm

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Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 2:28 pm

Emojis don’t work here. I just proved it. I’ll try again……

?????????????????

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 2:29 pm

Told you so.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:31 pm

B-|

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:32 pm

Bother. That was meant to be a smart alec in shades.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
August 17, 2021 2:33 pm

Test

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 2:35 pm

Hannity summing things up….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMj5lrPMpk

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 2:44 pm

Arma, the presidential election shenanigans of 2020 removed any moral authority from the US. Perhaps permanently.

What made their form of democracy superior has withered on the vine. How can you impose on others what you don’t yourself possess?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 2:45 pm

Doc Faustus:

The station borders a UNESCO World Heritage site and could soon be home to giant wind turbines and solar panels as the push for green hydrogen becomes a reality in Western Australia.

…and in ten years time, it will join the Desalinators as yet another white elephant to Green vanity.
Trillions of dollars being pissed up against the wall in a solution in search of a problem.
The grid becomes more unstable every year and only coal and nuclear can buttress its shaky foundations.
Welcome to our Radiant Green Future.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2021 2:54 pm

Calli

??????

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2021 2:55 pm

My Emojis became question marks! Robbed.

Try again.

???

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2021 2:55 pm

I’m an Emoji failure.

cohenite
August 17, 2021 2:56 pm

UK officials shift blame for looming COP-Flop onto enfeebled Joe Biden

And other exciting news from the whacky world of alarmism including:

The Prince of Wales will address Cop26, it emerged yesterday, amid concerns that the UN climate conference in November may end in failure.

That’ll get the punters revved up.

https://www.thegwpf.com/?mc_cid=5e865c2574&mc_eid=38089d59cb

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 3:06 pm

I wonder how many Eid parties went ahead after lockdown this year?

Eid parties? Hell no! Vikpol are class bullies, won’t take a chance on getting fucked up by the Swarthies.

I’ve seen Leb boy racer drift across in front of cop car at lights and the fishtail off down road. Sirens turned on, then they contemplated dealing with him and his 50 cousins, lights turned, they then quietly trundled off down the road in search of grannies not wearing masks.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:11 pm

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:16 pm

???????

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:17 pm

I’m an emoji failure too.

cohenite
August 17, 2021 3:19 pm

Better late then never:

BECAUSE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WAS NOT VERY INTERESTED IN THIS STORY (FOR OBVIOUS REASONS) IT IS LIKELY THAT YOU DID NOT SEE THIS WHEN IT BROKE. FOR THIS REASON WE ARE POSTING IT AGAIN.
The sh*t show the Democrats staged at the confirmation hearings for Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, was a disgusting group denigration of the high office Democrats have been entrusted with.

This was borne out again yesterday when Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley made a third criminal referral, this one against a second Kavanaugh accuser, Judy Munro-Leighton.

Here is Grassley’s letter of referral to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Christopher Wray:

https://thebeltwayreport.com/2021/08/p6203/

Skanks who falsely accuse men of rape are doubly guilty: firstly for ruining the man’s life (see Rush, Jarratt, McLachlan, Diamond etc), but they also make it harder for genuine cases to gain traction. Of course the demorats and the left have never cared except if it provides political capital for them. Look at the disparity between accusations against the scomo government compared to the hidden accusations in the liars.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 3:24 pm

😛

Nah nah!

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 3:27 pm

Dover, please ban Calli.

?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:30 pm

says:
August 17, 2021 at 3:24 pm

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Smarty-pants.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 3:30 pm

Calli:

Why are my comments always finishing with a question mark? I never end my sentences with an upward inflection.

I put a smiley on one of my posts from emojipedia and got a question mark instead.
Format issue?

Cassie of Sydney
August 17, 2021 3:32 pm

“Look at the disparity between accusations against the scomo government compared to the hidden accusations in the liars.”

Made worse by Scummo and the Liberal’s total feebleness in dealing with Labor and the Greens…particularly over the Porter nonsense. The Liberals could easily have thrown stuff back at Labor….but they didn’t. Back in March when the Porter story broke all Scummo had to do was stand in front of the MSM and mention…Shorten, Shorten, Shorten and say that Porter, like Shorten, should be accorded the presumption of innocence. But no, Scummo danced to their tunes.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:32 pm

Calli says:
August 17, 2021 at 3:24 pm

?

Nah nah!

Smarty pants again.

Arky
August 17, 2021 3:32 pm

Having two Catallaxy open forums is twice as good.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
August 17, 2021 3:35 pm

????????????????

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
August 17, 2021 3:36 pm

Hmmmm, seems people may be correct regarding emojis.

🙁

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:46 pm

So it’s not a formatting issue, Calli’s emoji turns into a question mark when I copy and paste it. She’s got the power and I haven’t.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:51 pm

?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 3:54 pm

?

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 3:58 pm

OK.
Makeshift middle finger emoji.

oIoo
.l..
.:..

cohenite
August 17, 2021 4:04 pm

FOX News Dirtbag Chris Wallace Tries to Blame Trump for Biden’s Afghanistan Debacle (VIDEO)

In March 2009 Barack Obama reached out to the Taliban terrorist organization for peace talks.

Joe Biden at the time told reporters “only 5% of the Taliban is incorrigible.”

In August 2010 Barack Obama removed the Taliban from the national terror list.

In May 2012 Barack Obama rewarded the Taliban terrorists with their own office in Qatar for peace talks.

Also in May 2012 the Taliban bombed Kabul two hours after Obama announced peace talks with the terrorist group.

In 2012 the Obama administration even paid for the Taliban peace office in Qatar.

In 2013 Barack Obama secretly released five deadly Taliban prisoners from Gitmo in exchange for peace talks.

In 2014 the Taliban officially released a statement on victory in Afghanistan 6 years into the Obama presidency.

On Sunday FOX News host Chris Wallace blamed the Trump Administration for situation in Afghanistan.

This is after years of Obama and Biden appeasing the Taliban, releasing their top operatives from prison and building them an office for peace talks in Qatar.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 4:05 pm

Armadillo:

Hannity summing things up….

In the shortest possible way of describing this balls up?
“The Generals were replaced by Kommissars. And the same in DHS/CIA/FBI – in fact the entire administration and upper levels of the bureaucracy have had a Kommissar replacement program going for the last two decades – starting with Obama.”

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 4:12 pm

Hannity summing things up…

Does he still say “tick-tock” all the time?

Brislurker
Brislurker
August 17, 2021 4:19 pm

?

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 4:19 pm

😀

Tee hee

Brislurker
Brislurker
August 17, 2021 4:21 pm

?

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 4:24 pm

Pompeo explains Trumps strategy….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcQz91kqLAY

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 4:27 pm

With the cavemen in Afghanistan, there is only one thing they respond to.
Sheer brutality.
They called Biden’s bluff & won a huge PR victory with the other cavemen in the region.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 4:29 pm

I’m surprised the social media platforms haven’t blocked the Kabul footage.
Whatever you are seeing on twitter & fb isn’t a patch on what’s being shown on TikTok.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 4:31 pm

It’s almost as if Joe Biden has been brainwashed by Jimmy Carter.

In fact, I’m just gunna come out and say it. Stuff your doxxing policy, Dover.

Joe is Jimmy’s sock puppet.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 17, 2021 4:35 pm

Winston Smithsays:
August 17, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Armadillo:

Hannity summing things up….

In the shortest possible way of describing this balls up?
“The Generals were replaced by Kommissars. And the same in DHS/CIA/FBI – in fact the entire administration and upper levels of the bureaucracy have had a Kommissar replacement program going for the last two decades – starting with Obama.”

Much the same here. Looking only at the Army, LTGEN David Morrison was CA from 2011 to 2015. He probably began to have an influence on officer career paths as a Col or Brig, some ten years earlier. CAPTs and MAJs he sponsored will now be BRIGs and MAJGENs, themselves having been able to influence officer career paths for more than a decade.

His pernicious influence still could reach down to some COLs and LTCOLs. The only possible solution to his influence is either a purge reaching down to that level, or a major military disaster. FDR jumped Colonel George C Marshall over some 400 officers senior to him to prepare the US Army for WW II; would any Australian government have the cojones to select a proven LTCOL or COL as the next CA?

And ditto for the bureaucracy.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
August 17, 2021 4:35 pm

:-p

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 4:35 pm

It’s amazing how Biden was in the Senate to block funding bills during the Vietnam War.
That’s how long he’s been leaching off taxpayers.
I’m surprised the Biden Crime family doesn’t have more money.
Pelosi is minted.
The Clintons are minted.
Biden is rich, but he must be quite retarded to only have what he has after almost 50 years in DC.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 17, 2021 4:40 pm

UK Rona Numbers

Active Cases: 1.3 million (mostly Dread Delta)
Hospitalised: 5,894 (0.4%)
ICU: 882 (0.1%)

Australian Rona Numbers

Active Cases: 7,467
Hospitalised: 439 (5.9%)
ICU: 66 (0.9%)

There had to be something to explain the difference in case outcomes.

Panic in Berejiklistan?
The Poms are 10x tougher?
The NHS is 10x more indifferent to human suffering?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 17, 2021 4:48 pm

Joe is Jimmy’s sock puppet.

Good point.
Nobody has ever seen a picture of them together.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 4:56 pm

The UK is running at ten times the Australian cases per head of pop.

Either we are hospitalising as an exaggerated precautionary measure, or they are a callous lot.

And also, there are seven thousand infected people out there in the community, presumably without treatment for the worst disease evah.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 5:02 pm

In other Covid news, our local clinic is now a regional jabbing hub. Which means that’s all they are doing.

The doctors have given the desk Karens a list of the most urgent cases. Dad, double jabbed and very unwell, has been offered a telephone consultation because too busy. He has a hideous blistering skin condition where the limbs are swelling and the skin is splitting. It needs to be seen and treated. He is in agony and losing hope.

But, hey, Covid.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 5:22 pm

These vaccination stats over the last week in NSW are astounding.
Calli’s story above shows how they are doing that.
Imagine if the same resourcing was applied to stop indigenous youth being sexually assaulted.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 5:25 pm

Armadillo says:
August 17, 2021 at 3:27 pm
Dover, please ban Calli.

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Report comment

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Wow! Three calls for banning, and I’m not even Bird. I knew I should have worn the tiara.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 5:48 pm

Test:

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rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 5:49 pm

Nope, don’t got Calli’s special power.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 5:52 pm

Dad, double jabbed and very unwell, has been offered a telephone consultation because too busy.

Calli did he only get sick after the second jab?

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 5:56 pm

At the risk of more people wanting me banned, I’ll annoy you for one more comment.

It’s old-fashioned formatting. If you had an old Nokia back in ancient times, you’ll know. Don’t use the + sign.

🙂 is : + )
😉 is ; + )
😛 is : + P

and so forth. Just make sure there are no spaces. Sorry Dover to use up your pixels on trivia.

cohenite
August 17, 2021 5:59 pm

Great new paper by a large number of prominent scientists showing the Sun has controlled the climate in recent times:

https://globalwarmingsolved.com/2021/08/06/how-much-has-the-sun-influenced-northern-hemisphere-temperature-trends-an-ongoing-debate/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 17, 2021 6:04 pm

Either we are hospitalising as an exaggerated precautionary measure, or they are a callous lot.

My understanding is all nursing home residents who have positive tests are being transferred to hospital as a precaution. That is going to inflate the numbers of hospitalized, but is a better situation than last year when Sutton said that infected elderly would stay in their nursing home. We all know what happened then.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2021 6:04 pm

the Sun has controlled the climate in recent times

Bird told us it was the false Canaanites.

What else might he have been wrong about?

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 6:06 pm

Bird told us it was the false Canaanites.

What else might he have been wrong about?

How long have you got?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 6:20 pm

Calli:

Dad, double jabbed and very unwell, has been offered a telephone consultation because too busy. He has a hideous blistering skin condition where the limbs are swelling and the skin is splitting. It needs to be seen and treated. He is in agony and losing hope.

Calli, is this your dad?
If it is, call an ambulance and get him to hospital now. It sounds like either cardiac failure or some way out of control immune system/allergy reaction.*
Do it NOW!
* Not a doctor Calli – just an old scrubber nurse.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 17, 2021 6:21 pm

PROSECUTORS in the murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe will apply for proceedings to be stayed pending an appeal to the High Court of Australia.

Rolfe has pleaded not guilty to murdering 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker in a police shooting in Yuendumu in 2019.

The full bench of the NT Supreme Court last week ruled an immunity provision in the Police Administration Act could be put to the jury in the trial now due to start next Monday.

But late on Tuesday it was announced the Crown would apply to the High Court for special leave to appeal the Full Court’s ruling.

Section 148B of the act excuses police officers from criminal responsibility for acts done “in good faith” during the performance of their duties.

Crown prosecutor Philip Strickland SC had argued that if Rolfe was acting in defence of himself or a colleague, he was no longer exercising the police power of arrest.

But in their joint decision, Justices Stephen Southwood and Dean Mildren ruled there was nothing in the act “to prevent a police officer from exercising multiple powers and performing multiple functions during the course of a single incident”.

“The Crown’s submissions overlook the fact that at the relevant time the defendant may have been exercising his power of arrest and simultaneously performing his functions of preventing an offence and protecting the life of Constable (Adam) Eberl,” they wrote.

“It may be that when he fired the second and third shots the defendant was intending to both arrest the deceased and defend Constable Eberl.

“It would be open to the defendant, if he gives evidence, to state as much.”

Mr Strickland is set to make the stay application after the NT’s current three day lockdown is due to end on Thursday afternoon.

NT News

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 6:24 pm

BTW it isn’t false Canaanites.
It’s fake Canaanites.
Completely different.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2021 6:24 pm

The woman at my local wine shop was very impressed by the observation that a virus which apparently escaped a level 4 biological lab would be blocked by a 50 cent paper mask.

I was also going to tell her about the contrast of young men storming the beaches on D-Day in the face of very real death compared to men today of the same age hiding in the dark (in case the new variant can see) in their house but decided not to because she came from Germany.

It is not so much that it would be awkward to mention that rather than it would be more awkward trying to avoid being awkward. That is it right there. As far as I know she would have no trouble but I would feel I had to make sure she understood I understood what she probably has not problem with.

Conspicuous virtue is hard. I don’t know how virtue signallers do it.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 6:25 pm

Feelthebern:

Whatever you are seeing on twitter & fb isn’t a patch on what’s being shown on TikTok.

I’m unable to find the current news on tiktok – never joined up.
Can you chuck us a couple of links?
What we’re seeing on the guvvie channels (FB and Twitter) are bad enough.
This is catastrophic for the US and its Allies.
We need to get making plans for if the O’Biden/Harris administration deserts us as well.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 6:28 pm

Calli:

Either we are hospitalising as an exaggerated precautionary measure, or they are a callous lot.

There’s a third option, they are both lying through their teeth about the numbers and neither sets of stats are believable outside a Birdian LSD trip.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 6:32 pm

Test
😛

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:33 pm

Back from walk.
Beat the nine y.o. in the final sprint up the drive and onto the steps to do the whole Rocky thing with hands over head jumping up and down. Loser.
Called out down street to missus “Yo, Adrian”.
At the start of walk some demented old biddy tried to scold us for taking up half the path.
Me: “Shut up”
Her: “You’re not even wearing your masks”.
Me: “Shut UP”.
I’m such a nice guy I resisted the temptation to arm her off into some dog shit.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 6:34 pm

He has been diagnosed with Grovers Disease, Winston. Just spoke to him on the phone and read the riot act.

His condition re-ignited after the first jab, plus other side effects and got far worse after the second one.

He trusts his doctor, which is fair enough. Told him that if he deteriorates any further, to call the ambulance. Thanks for your concern.

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:35 pm

“Calli, is this your dad?
If it is, call an ambulance and get him to hospital now.”
..
And check his will.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 17, 2021 6:36 pm

Calli, I need the code for the smiley with a halo. 🙂

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:37 pm

“He has been diagnosed with Grovers Disease,”
..
Grrrrrr…uhh?
https://twitter.com/grover

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 17, 2021 6:40 pm

And on that note I shall share an anecdote from an earlier life.

I worked in a language school in Japan where we had English, French, and German teachers. The number of English teachers was growing which meant finding space in the teachers’ room to write up comments was growing more and more difficult.

One day an exasperated German teacher complained, “Ah! We need more room!”*

One of the English teachers quipped, “Whoa. Look out. Remember the last time a German said that.”

Suffice to say the English and French teachers laughed uproariously. The other German teachers did not seem to note the exchange. But the German teacher immediately replied along the lines, “Ah you are talking about the war. Terrible. Terrible.”

Brought up in a state of reflexive apology for something before he was born. But you can’t just say, “Nah, forget it.” Instead people just told him to lighten up. It was a joke.

Nice guy. Knew his German wines, which was a boon for me. Even told me about a wine shop in Kobe where they had a vast imported range on the basement floor where few Japanese ventured.

*No quasi-German phonemes. His English pronunciation was very good. Still with German vowel sounds but none of that ‘I vhant to read ze news. Vhere are der papers?’

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:41 pm

Sorry Cali.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 6:45 pm

No needs to apologise, Arky. I’m tough, and so is he. When he first told me the diagnosis, I thought exactly the same thing.

Cutting all those frames in the blazing sun. Apparently carpenters are susceptible.

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:46 pm

“When he first told me the diagnosis, I thought exactly the same thing.”
..
That he was going to grow blue fur?

Arky
August 17, 2021 6:48 pm

I just image Googled Grover’s disease.
It doesn’t make you look anything like a blue furry muppet.

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 6:58 pm

Calli:
Grovers disease sounds like a bitch.
“Causes aren’t known” but sure as shit sounds like the immune system is involved.
I hadn’t heard of it before, but after I wrote, I had to wonder at the renal aspect – sounded a bit like the renal failure post extensive burns.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 17, 2021 7:09 pm

Gotta be careful with the Germans. Either at your feet or your throat.

Who said that then?

Winston Smith
August 17, 2021 7:12 pm

Just having a closer look at the people trying to get away from Kabul.
What do you notice?
Mostly young men.
Military age young men.
Very few women and children.
The women and children have been left behind and they are at the mercy of the Taliban.
Bastards.

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 7:12 pm

Cutting all those frames in the blazing sun. Apparently carpenters are susceptible.

Phhht!
He told you that?
Rubbish.
Everyone knows frames are pre-fabbed in a shed.
The only one in the whole process who gets any UV is the crane truck driver.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 7:18 pm

Forget sport.

The politicians and the media are now the new cool kids.

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 7:20 pm

Top Ender at 6:21.
Thanks for that.
I think the DPP wants this to be scrubbed by the HC to get them off the hook that they’ve put themselves on.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 7:34 pm

I was thinking there might be another reason so many fewer are hospitalised in the UK.

Very highly vaccinated 🙂

a little reminder how out of touch Australia is.

Bruce K
August 17, 2021 7:34 pm

Re Winstons comments on the young men trying to get away from Kabul. It was the same age group trying to get into Oz back when Morrison was actually doing something useful. If you look back there were many of military age -pumped up on steroids – coming ashore.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 7:54 pm
Bons
August 17, 2021 8:01 pm

Ultimately, the collapse of the Afgan cavemen will be good for the west.
The greater the physical threat, the closer the West comes to the equivalent of a Munich realisation and it’s Halifaxes are overwhelmed and discarded by a society suffering genuine fear.
Problem being of course, there are so many Halifaxes in contemporary society we will only have Maccas and CFC kids to take over.
That’s not a bad thing; in an indulgent, self centered world, kids who are prepared to get out there and earn a few bucks in a disciplined organisation are probably our last hope.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 8:04 pm

Rosie, with all due respect, the views you have linked to aren’t “alternative”. They are mainstream.

Others here are exploring the alternatives and weighing them.

The reasons why some don’t trust mainstream views are a story in themselves. Why won’t some people just trust like they used to? It’s a mystery.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Just having a closer look at the people trying to get away from Kabul.
What do you notice?
Mostly young men.
Military age young men.

Who else is going to able to hang on the fuselage of a plane in flight?

Mater
August 17, 2021 8:14 pm

Test2

Mater
August 17, 2021 8:14 pm

Cool, it’s working again.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 17, 2021 8:17 pm

When able Calli, see if a Dermatologist would recommend attempting Methotrexate treatment for Grovers disease. The whole topical corticosteroids/uv treatment has hairs on it for acute disease, takes so long and sounds like he is suffering. I am not a doctor, merely a patient under a Dermatologist.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 17, 2021 8:37 pm

Young males, ready to make a new life.
Same cohort deserted the aged, women and children in Syria.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 8:37 pm

No calli

What they are is alternatives to the children’s defence fund and other bogus operators being offered as the true dinks truth at dash cat.

Whenever I see a *name* being offered up as the only real world renowned expert I check, and inevitably there are red flags everywhere.

We all have ears keen to be tickled but some people seem happy to swallow anything offered up.

Don’t forget quite a few were cheering on bird, up to and including ‘nano wrigglers’ .

If a site has seemingly valid theories but also espouses nano wrigglers, 5g, NWO and a bunch of other stuff forgive my scepticism.

Some of the names Robert Malone, Bryam Bridle some woman with the surname Tenpenny, the Thai German professor, the ex pfizer guy all look like whackadoodles to me.

Mater
August 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Active Cases: 1.3 million (mostly Dread Delta)

Dr Faustus,
Can you point me to where this active cases figure came from?
The best one I can find gives: 197,626 active cases

That figure would give a hospitalisation rate (approx 3%) which is closer to the Australian version, though still only half.

The Poms might only be 2x times tougher, or the NHS only 2x more indifferent to human suffering.
The level of panic in Berejiklistan remains unchanged, regardless.

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 8:43 pm

All the vaccines have been subject to large randomised double blind trials

https://www.biznews.com/global-citizen/2021/08/13/ivermectin-aldous-mdladla

rosie
rosie
August 17, 2021 8:53 pm
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 17, 2021 8:53 pm

Sure they have, Rosie.
All episodes are filmed in front of a live studio audience, too.
But the laugh track is pre-recorded.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 17, 2021 8:54 pm

Wahey!
My gravatar is working!
Such a handsome dog.

calli
calli
August 17, 2021 8:56 pm

Rosie, I know that, I’ve been watching it all for months.

My point was why the distrust? It isn’t just “itching ears”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2021 8:59 pm

Professor H, apropos of the young bloke in Yuendumu saving the taxpayer some cash:

I think the DPP wants this to be scrubbed by the HC to get them off the hook that they’ve put themselves on.

Oh yes. After the Full Bench ruled that self-defence was, in fact, an option, and that intent to moida was clearly not there as the bloke was still alive whilst being dragged out of the house and into the van (Southwood J actually said something along the lines of ‘well, he didn’t shoot him four or five times taking him to the van, did he?’), AND that the jacks can exercise multiple powers during the same fluid incident (natch), that is the only card the prosecution has left.

If they ran the trial as it is, they have nothing. Nothing.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2021 9:02 pm

The smallgoods company I drop into from time to time won’t let me access this site either.

It is a ‘newly-registered website’, apparently.

Oh well. Muppets*.

*Not having a crack at Grover’s Disease.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 9:13 pm

All the vaccines have been subject to large randomised double blind trials

Over how many years?

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 9:16 pm

Just having a closer look at the people trying to get away from Kabul.
What do you notice?
Mostly young men.
Military age young men.

In fairness to them, NGO’s and ISAF spent the last 20 years taking every AK-47 and RPG from them that they could find.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 17, 2021 9:19 pm

Dr Faustus,
Can you point me to where this active cases figure came from?
The best one I can find gives: 197,626 active cases

Mater: That number comes from Worldometer – which pulls its data from the Gov.UK daily Covid reporting package (if interested, scroll down and follow the links into the labyrinth).

Not exactly sure how long a case remains a case – it appears to be driven by follow up testing, which is reported in aggregates. But as a sanity check, based on around 40,000 daily new cases over the Delta spike, this suggests once diagnosed, you are statistically Covid for about 28 days.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 9:21 pm

😉

Crossie
Crossie
August 17, 2021 9:22 pm

Who’s ready for passports to travel interstate? But of course you must get jabbed first, two shots at present but who knows, it may be three or four or five by the time we are allowed onto a plane or to drive across the border.

Mater
August 17, 2021 9:27 pm

Dr F,
Thanks.
I used your original link to the UK site and looked at the ‘Cases by Area (last 7 days)’ and looked at total UK. 7 days is likely not enough to encompasses them all, so the real figure is probably a moving feast. Maybe 14 days would be more useful.

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 9:28 pm

AND that the jacks can exercise multiple powers during the same fluid incident (natch), that is the only card the prosecution has left.

Only a fucking lawyer would say … “you can’t be simultaneously arresting him and acting in your own self defence and acting in defence of your colleague.”
Glorified conveyancing clerks.

rickw
rickw
August 17, 2021 9:28 pm

The only decent politicians in Victoria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNIREbXDrTo

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 17, 2021 9:29 pm

rickwsays:
August 17, 2021 at 9:21 pm
?

Was that directed at me?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 9:35 pm

What they are is alternatives to the children’s defence fund and other bogus operators being offered as the true dinks truth at dash cat.

Is Bret Weinstein part of the children’s defence fund?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 9:36 pm

All the vaccines have been subject to large randomised double blind trials

The fact that the Pfizer control group was given the vaccine/treatment would say otherwise.

Zipster
Zipster
August 17, 2021 9:39 pm

Young males, ready to make a new life.

virile young men come to find the bay watch girls in the red bikinis

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 9:40 pm

The TIK video arky linked to is hilarious.
Hitler was a secret Jew-Catholic-Spy.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 17, 2021 9:40 pm

I was thinking there might be another reason so many fewer are hospitalised in the UK.

Very highly vaccinated ?

Public Health England thinks that too.
Given they are working with a 47 million person dataset, I’m inclined to agree with the analysis.

The pointer for our Leaders (and the Premiers and Ministers) is: if you are lucky enough to get to 70% jabbed, and the rest offered, open the gates because the health system can cope.

cohenite
August 17, 2021 9:43 pm

Tucker and who is liable for the red, stinking stain of the US leaving afghanistan: woke generals, gender sprouting lefties, idiots who think islam can be changed into democracies and all round over educated swamp things, but not the zombie who is obviously well into the second stage of dementia; a 12 minute watch; pretty good:

https://videos.whatfinger.com/2021/08/17/tucker-we-are-led-by-buffoons-everything-they-touch-turns-to-chaos/

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 17, 2021 9:43 pm

So Australia shut down their embassy in March-April-May (initial drawdown began in March & 99% done by May).
1800 interperators out.
400 odd since March.
How come our guys saw this coming and the US didn’t ?
The US has been sitting on 18,000 visa applications since end the of 2020.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 17, 2021 9:53 pm

This is what we apparently need, seeing as how the CHOs now run the States and Premiers will seek their advice on how repressed people must be after how much they’re vaccinated.

CHO elections, and shadow CHOs. Pressers and all.

An election cycle of say, two years with a potential option for four.

What’s that you say? They’re all on executive contracts? Signed off by who?

Oh.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 9:54 pm

The only decent politicians in Victoria:

Pussys. The dude spent the entire time apologising about being there.

Isn’t this the mob that Alex Turnbull just joined?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 17, 2021 9:58 pm

If a site has seemingly valid theories but also espouses nano wrigglers, 5g, NWO and a bunch of other stuff forgive my scepticism.

Some of the names Robert Malone, Bryam Bridle some woman with the surname Tenpenny, the Thai German professor, the ex pfizer guy all look like whackadoodles to me.

Yes, it is not possible to have a reasoned discussion about some of these ideas or people.

However, and this we must note. A respected site that has good stuff on it re vax testing and bringing down some of the worst of the vax loonies, when I explored it a bit, also had stuff trying to bring down Abigail Shrier’s excellent book ‘Irreversible Damage’ by putting forward as ‘proper science’ some of the very poor clinical work of mad gender bender shrinks and assorted gender clinic loonies, all clearly on the feed the kiddies hormones and chop off their bits bandwagon. To be fair, there was in the comments quite a bit of opposition to this ‘science’, but not on the main thread. So you have to be selective in what you take from sites that might be otherwise ok. It’s always a matter of keeping sceptical, knowing how to sort a scientific argument from dross, hence looking for good arguments supported by good evidence.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 17, 2021 10:01 pm

Question for military Cats.

Why did the US leave all that military hardware behind in Afghanistan? Everything from rifles to fighter jets.

Surely there would have been plans in place to either pack up and move or blow it all up rather than have it fall into Taliban hands.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 10:09 pm

Why did the US leave all that military hardware behind in Afghanistan?

The same happened in Iraq, which ISIS promptly took into Syria.

I still want to know why there isn’t a “kill switch” on multi million dollar military equipment. Or at least a tracking device.

It’s a fair question.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 17, 2021 10:10 pm

Pedro, the Donald had plans to ensure nothing useable would be left for the goat fuckers.

Dementia Joe couldn’t work it out.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 10:12 pm

Your suburban drug dealing hoon with a decent car has more sense than the US military.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 17, 2021 10:23 pm

I suspect that the more extreme elements of the Taliban aren’t going to let the US simply fly everyone out of Kabul Airport without incident.

There is sure to be some outrageous atrocity yet to occur. A final “FU” to the West whilst the media are still watching. I don’t think flying the black flag over the US Embassy on 9/11 will suffice.

They will want to make a bigger fuss than that.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
August 17, 2021 10:34 pm

Pedro, the Donald had plans to ensure nothing useable would be left for the goat fuckers.

Dementia Joe couldn’t work it out.

And because Sleepy Joe’s masters chose to break Donald’s deal (for little reason, it seems, other than ORANGEAN BAD! REEEEE!!!1!), the Taliban declared that Unrestricted Warfare rules were now in play.

When their declaration and initial offensives did not result in their advance columns getting carpet-bombed into oblivion or running headlong into US Army and Marine armour-heavy Regimental Combat Teams, they simply picked up the pace…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
August 17, 2021 10:35 pm

ORANGEAN

ORANGE MAN BAD…

Brislurker
Brislurker
August 17, 2021 10:41 pm

? test

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 17, 2021 10:58 pm

Emperor Xi’s eunuchs read Taiwan’s tea leaves:

Afghan abandonment a lesson for Taiwan’s DPP: Global Times editorial

Larfing at Golden Failure Biden.
(But still a bit sweaty about the unintended consequences.)

Megan
Megan
August 17, 2021 11:11 pm

Some of the names Robert Malone, Bryam Bridle some woman with the surname Tenpenny, the Thai German professor, the ex pfizer guy all look like whackadoodles to me.

Clearly takes one to know one, you mealy mouthed ignoramus. The first name on that list was involved in the development of mRNA…you know, the one in your blessed and worshipped vaccines…and is a self confessed vaccine true believer.

There are always plenty of whackadoodles in debates of this kind but a lazy smearing of a brilliant mind simply demonstrates that you are one of them.

Megan
Megan
August 17, 2021 11:12 pm

Professor Bunyip has stirred.

Excellent news! And about damned time.

Eddystone
Eddystone
August 17, 2021 11:13 pm

Mater says:
August 17, 2021 at 4:23 am

Bruce,
I feel your pain.
I felt like I had been gut-punched when I was informed that McGowan had instituted a ‘at least one jab to enter the state’ policy. It was a threshold I never thought I’d see crossed in this country.

I was once proud of my country, so proud and grateful that I spent a good portion of my life dedicated to it’s defence. I’ve only just realised that it wasn’t my country I was proud of, it was what it provided it’s citizens, what I thought it stood for. That has all been removed in less than 18 months. The country has literally been divided into parts, segments of our citizens have been de-humanised, and the very essence of our personal property, the sovereignty of our bodies, are being bandied about as a political football, all by a government sworn to protect the integrity of the Commonwealth, and our rights.

I once sourced great pride and motivation from my fellow countrymen and women. I’m left now with an overwhelming sense of disgust. How quickly our society and culture disintegrated into that morass of human filth that fills our history books. I just don’t wish to be here any longer. However, I remain focused on my wife and children. Nothing else matters anymore.

My duty is to see them through this, or at least soften their landing into whatever dystopian nightmare finds equilibrium. Nothing else now matters, certainly not some illusion of a ‘united’ country, filled with tough, fair minded people who believe in a fair go. That Australia, if it even existed in the new century, was crushed under the feet of the panicked crowd in March last year. I’ll continue to help and support those who are struggling against this insanity, but I’ll not be doing so based on the fact that they label themselves ‘Australian’. They’ll now need better bonafides than that. It’s a meaningless label.

Whatever the eventual outcome, a return to my ‘normality’ or, indeed, a ‘new normal’, things can never be remotely the same. Some things, once seen, cannot be unseen. Once rung, Bells cannot be unrung. I’ve seen what a large portion of my fellow citizens are capable of, and I fear I may not have seen the worst of it yet. I’ve seen the indifference they have to what I thought were traditional Australian values. I’ve also seen what our politicians, of both persuasions, are capable of. More importantly for the future, they’ve seen what they can get away with…and how.
moderated

Absolutely first class comment Mater.

My son was a soldier for many years and now feels the same way.

I was a Nasho, and loved it, but would not want any of my grandchildren to join the ADF in the future.

Ever since I arrived in Australia in 1958, all I ever wanted was to be Australian, and I was proud to call myself Australian.

I don’t feel that way now. It’s very sad.

And Bruce in WA, chin up. I know how you feel, but you are not alone.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 17, 2021 11:14 pm

Exactly Angry Rex.

But Dementia Joe’s woke lefty defence “experts” did teach a lot about diversity and equality for the hijabs. Shame they forgot about airpower.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 18, 2021 12:01 am

No insurgency against tyranny in the world will ever trust the US and it’s allies again. Ever.

Bruce in WA
August 18, 2021 12:09 am

In fairness to them, NGO’s and ISAF spent the last 20 years taking every AK-47 and RPG from them that they could find.

Rick, this is what they have left behind at the airport …

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/21154a7075f32e23c913de0919350391?width=316

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/3f51d7df35aad1ae92d665acd0539fb5?width=316

Just sitting there, no guards, no nothing … ammo included.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 18, 2021 12:11 am

The 5000 Islamic hotheads released from prison are now wandering the countryside, free as birds.

They will have their revenge.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 18, 2021 12:39 am
Arky
August 18, 2021 12:49 am

Pedro the Loafersays:
August 17, 2021 at 10:01 pm
Question for military Cats.

Why did the US leave all that military hardware behind in Afghanistan? Everything from rifles to fighter jets.

..
The same reason that we’re all going to have to take vaccines that don’t do shit.
If they blew up their shit on leaving instead of leaving it in the hands of the Afghani Army, it would be tantamount to admitting that the Afghani Army would be immediately defeated. Which they would. But they can’t admit they knew they would. Otherwise it would look like the last 20 years training the mother lovers was a waste of time. Which it was.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 18, 2021 1:08 am

I was informed that McGowan had instituted a ‘at least one jab to enter the state’ policy

The next Australian Surf Life Saving Championships are due to be held at Scarboro beach in April 2022.
That’s 6000 competitors plus support crews and families.
Imaging the disruption if 50% decided not to go because of vax hesitancy, slow vax roll out, or closed border fears. Another huge loss to the hospitality industry.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 18, 2021 1:13 am

It’s only a matter of time before the Taliban demand BRS be hauled back to Afghanistan for a trial. I wouldn’t put it past the ABC journalists to agree.

On another point, once these Afghan “terps” get resettled here, you need to remember that many of their relatives left behind are going to become bargaining chips. Just like the Tamil Tigers used the worldwide diaspora of Tamils.

The Tamils weren’t even in Government. The Taliban are, and they will have total control over the local population. Do as we say, or your uncle/brother/cousin gets it right between the eyes.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 18, 2021 1:18 am

Here’s an Afghan veteran instead of the usual talking heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TganRev7yZg

Tom
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feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2021 4:31 am

They will want to make a bigger fuss than that.

All it’s going to take is one Taliban yahoo to turn it up to 11.
One of the ones who isn’t getting CIA money to keep a lid on things until the media leaves.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 18, 2021 4:43 am

Lex Fridman is on Rogan.
Hard going.
Lex is a little dry, a little too cerebral for Rogan.

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 5:02 am

Dad Joke time:
If a Gull flies over the sea, it’s called a Seagull.
Therefore, when the same bird bird flies over a bay, shouldn’t it be called a Bagel?

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 5:24 am

Armadillo:

There is sure to be some outrageous atrocity yet to occur. A final “FU” to the West whilst the media are still watching. I don’t think flying the black flag over the US Embassy on 9/11 will suffice.

Yep my money is on a couple of stinger variants going up a C 17 couple of the four engines on take off.

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 5:31 am

Dover Beach:

Professor Bunyip has stirred.

Where?
Does he still have his boat?

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 5:51 am

Armadillo:

It’s a clusterfuck…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKVpqanBQM8

Certainly it is.
There hasn’t been one decision from this O’Biden/Harris Administration that hasn’t left the US weaker.
The whole thing has that stench of Obama drifting through it.
It’s time for the militias to remember just why they have a 2nd Amendment.

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 6:19 am

This is turning into a catastrophe for the West.
Biden has no idea of how many American citizens are in Kabul and has no plans to get them out – Admin spokesman.
I think we are watching a repeat Tehran hostage situation – or worse – unfurling, and the O’Biden/Harris Administration is complicit in this.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2021 6:20 am

There is sure to be some outrageous atrocity yet to occur. A final “FU” to the West whilst the media are still watching.

There will be, because there’s no longer any incentive for the goat herders not to do it.

Mater
August 18, 2021 6:29 am

There is sure to be some outrageous atrocity yet to occur. A final “FU” to the West whilst the media are still watching.

What would be the response? Invade Afghanistan?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2021 6:30 am

Thanks Tom! Mark Knight #3 wins it for me. Not only is he a funny cartoonist but he can write funny census questions too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2021 6:56 am

Pathetic headlines are competing with themselves today. This one is probably the most greasy.

EU panic as bloc poised to offer Pakistan cash in desperate bid to halt new migrant crisis (17 Aug)

Josep Borrell, the bloc’s top foreign diplomat, said he would provide support to countries in the regions to cope with the “negative spillovers” that can be expected from increasing numbers of refugees. The plans were discussed at an emergency meeting of EU foreign affairs ministers called to discuss the situation in Afghanistan. A growing number of European governments are fearful that the Taliban’s Afghan takeover could spark a repeat of the 2015 migrant crisis.

Yup, bribe Pakistan so that millions of refugees don’t try to come to Europe. One day after people were falling off planes trying to get out of Kabul. Very hard to beat for completely degenerate tin-eared smugness.

Winston Smith
August 18, 2021 6:58 am

Mater:

What would be the response? Invade Afghanistan?

I think that would cross O’Bidens mind…
Then get trapped in a tangle of calcified neurons, drowned in cerebrospinal fluid, do a short dance across the short circuiting astrocytes and then, with a feeble gasp, decides we may have done this all before with President Bush, and dies.

I fink it’s time to get some sleep…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 18, 2021 6:59 am

1. Because not even the Taliban thought it would be so easy to reclaim an entire country, it takes them a year or so to plan and carry out another full-blown terrorist attack on Western soil. Or sponsor someone to do it, and harbour them before, during and after.

2. Re-invading is not an option, because conquering in this day is considered a bit low-brow. ‘Surgical strikes’ become the go.

3. After each such strike, the Talis will wheel out a few truckloads of pre-executed women and children, tastefully arrange them for the cameras and claim atrocities by the infidel.

4. And around and around it will go, because nobody has the election cycle courage to take out an entire city. Or province. Gaza, writ large.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 18, 2021 7:00 am

And then this one.

Pete Buttigieg Announces He’s About To Become a Parent (17 Aug)

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg on Tuesday announced that he and his husband, Chasten, are set to become parents.

They broke the news on Twitter.

“We’re overjoyed to share that we’ve become parents!” Pete Buittigieg wrote. “The process isn’t done yet and we’re thankful for the love, support, and respect for our privacy that has been offered to us. We can’t wait to share more soon.”

One wonders which one of them was the pregnant one. But talk about a terrible roll of the dice for the poor kid. No matter what gender it is it’ll be on sex change drugs very quickly I suspect, since that’s the latest fad amongst the ragingly woke.

Bushkid
Bushkid
August 18, 2021 7:04 am

Mater, Bruce of WA, Eddystone, Cassie too (if I recall correctly)

Yes, I hear you loud and clear.

While still being in the relative calm of regional Qld, the ripples and echoes of the disasters and hideous decisions and impositions of the premiers in other states and even our own SE corner is taking its toll. There is the ever-present knowledge that we are all just one probably manufactured “positive” (inappropriate anyway) PCR test away from similar crap, and the understanding that they simply do not care a single fig about us, our lives, or the lives of our kids.

I also gave enough years of my life to the ADF, and am just glad I’m no longer there and that I’m beyond age and physical capability to be called back to active duty.

I’m also disgusted at what such a cabal of arrogant *rseholes has done to my country. The Australia I grew up in was a magnificent place. I doubt very much that that wonderful place will ever return. That’s the saddest part of all this. I’m old enough to not be bothered by the idea of dying, but I grieve that today’s kids will likely never know and enjoy the country I did. It’s hard to see a way back from here.

At one level I think perhaps these people do not trouble themselves to know the harm they’re causing, but on another I think they do know – but simply do not care at all. Some probably are even enjoying the hell out of it.

rosie
rosie
August 18, 2021 7:05 am

I don’t know calli.

Maybe its the behaviour of government, suspending democracy, indefinitely. Maybe it’s Australia not experiencing a widespread covid outbreak to date. Maybe a significant percentage are the same people that always prefer a conspiracy over reality and meticulously produced videos made them seem more plausible.

Cassie of Sydney
August 18, 2021 7:12 am

“Bushkidsays:
August 18, 2021 at 7:04 am”

Hiya, I think you probably meant Calli but further to what you’ve written, Fred Pawle has written an excellent piece in Spiked Online….it was only uploaded yesterday…

“The authoritarian takeover of Australia
This once happy and freedom-loving nation is being crushed by its pro-lockdown elites.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/08/17/the-authoritarian-takeover-of-australia/

It’s a little depressing but then again I’m finding a lof about this country depressing.

rosie
rosie
August 18, 2021 7:12 am

Which reminds me of another pernicious claim made at old and dash cats.

Some Australians receiving vaccines are only getting saline injections.

Either as unwitting participants in an ongoing secret trial, or to hid the vacc kill rate, depending on who made the claim.

Btw Nothing the bird man claimed re covid was original thinking either , it’s all there, swirling around the internet.

  1. I think the punters are stirring, getting ansty. Normally letting politics of either persuasion slide by as we just get…

  2. Great stuff from the past. Visuals and audio are great. —— F r. David – Words Don’t Come Easy

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