Open Thread – Tues 20 Sept 2022
2,957 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 20 Sept 2022”
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Well of course.
Researchers have shed light on the story behind a large sandstone rock art site in Central Queensland that features seven star-like designs, large snake-like designs, six-toed human feet and even a penis.
Penises are about the first thing any grafittist draws. Why would aboriginal artists be any different?
Massive Outback rock art site reveals ancient narrative (Phys.org, 21 Sep)
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And by the way . I did not add ONE single vote to The Centurion’s tally. Not one. I went looking for something in the Fester stoush from yesterday and saw it, which is when I reported it.
Johanna, that is not quite right.
The Head Feuder keeps a comprehensive file of screenshots & copy/pastes of everything said about him.Of course I had to keep a record of comments and links because Driller and a few others would deny the very comments they made. It was the only way to keep them on a straight line. Even then, Driller would literally deny he made the comment that was copied and pasted from his own comment. I’ve never experienced such level of base lying. I called it base lying.
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Stephan Lewandowsky, hmm, I wonder who he is?
Isn’t he the guy who studied methods of propaganda then put his knowledge into use to back the Global Warming narrative. And yes he collaborated with the discredited Cook et al, to concoct the 97% of scientists agree research. I genuinely cringe when I see a photo of him.https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/28/stephan-lewandowsky-flees-australia-in-wake-of-investigations/
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Lewandowsky is a kraut.
And his colleague John Cook likes to dress up.
It’s not a photoshop, it was found on the SkS website when they left open a back door.
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Just as the Centurion, Mater and Bush continue to advocate for ticks, which is essentially giving people an opportunity to cheat then I and some others will be pushing for the other side. As I said a while ago, I had no real idea there was cheating when it became obvious earlier this week.
I don’t care either way about ticks and votes.
I could never understand why a particular poster got so bent out of shape about them.
The main point is that they are demonstrably able to be manipulated, and the manipulation seems to be quick and easy to achieve.
So, the next time someone sees scores of ticks against some fairly banal insult directed at them, they will be at least open to the possibility that it has been fudged.
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The great replacement is real…
President Macron, who made his remarks on Thursday, also called for a new system to redistribute migrants across France, specifically in “rural areas, which are losing population,” arguing that “the conditions for their reception will be much better than if we put them in areas that are already densely populated, with a concentration of massive economic and social problems.”
Similar policies have been suggested in other countries in recent years, including Germany, where in 2016 it was suggested that villages and small towns could help integrate asylum seekers better and the asylum seekers would help counter demographic decline.
A University of Milano-Bicocca study released last year also proposed using asylum seekers to repopulate rural areas and small towns in Italy, arguing that if the local governments limited migrant centres to no more than 25 people, there would be little economic cost.
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Did Trump sign the insurrection act?
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Stephan Lewandowsky, hmm, I wonder who he is? Aha! I remember now, he’s a climate funster and cartoonist John Cook’s mate, who thinks righties believe the Moon landings were faked (despite that Dr Schmitt, who is a climate sceptic, like went there.)
Lewandowsky and little johnnie appear to have got The Australian Sceptics Blog banned.
When I could get published in Fairfax I had a long exchange with Cook.
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bespokesays:
September 22, 2022 at 11:45 am
I remember how Sinclair shut down his blog for a whole weekend…and the reasons behind it had nothing to do with JC or Sancho.
Agree but who are you implicating
Arky and Egg_.
A three day stoush involving threats to take each other to the blog carpark.
Despite repeated warnings they went at it hammer and tongs.
Sinc then progressively let all threads time expire.
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Zali Steggall MP
Climate Action is now Legislated!
I’m very excited to say that we now have a Climate Change Act, locking into law Australia’s commitment to Net Zero by 2050 and the Paris Agreement goal of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees!
This is a win for all the communities, business groups, environmental groups, stakeholders, and all of you who got behind the Climate Bills that I presented in the last parliament and who have kept the pressure on Government for clear, legislated climate policy.
This legislation is a good first step as it locks in a level of certainty for the country and for investment, however, we need to make sure that the policies to support us achieving the 2030 target are implemented (and not wound back) and drive us well beyond 43 percent.
If we’re going to be consistent with the Paris Agreement, we will need to reduce emissions at a greater rate. We can do this by taking advantage of new technologies and unlocking innovation. We will not do this by approving more fossil fuel projects and that is something that I look forward to having more discussions about.But for now, we can celebrate that Australia is finally on the start line of the race to Net Zero, coming into step with the wider international community.
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Space travel is racist.
Who wants to go to the moon? Europe names astronaut candidates (Phys.org, 21 Sep)
The European Space Agency announced a team of seven astronauts on Wednesday to train for NASA’s Artemis mission to the moon—but only one will have the chance to become the first European to walk on the lunar surface.
The candidates—France’s Thomas Pesquet, Britain’s Tim Peake, Germany’s Alexander Gerst and Matthias Maurer, Italy’s Luca Parmitano and Samantha Cristoforetti, and Denmark’s Andreas Mogensen—have all completed at least one mission on board the International Space Station.
I had to look them up for photos to check my hunch. Yep. Be careful about sunburn astroguys and gals.
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It appears that people with a Low Resting Heart Rate are more likely to exhibit AntiSocial Behaviours [such as violence] from a young age.
Examples might be:
Ad Wolgast [1888-1953] Lightweight Champion 1910-16, [RHR-35] who spent the his last 35 years securely locked up in a State Hospital, and the Native American who won the Boston Marathon 4 times, did his training in Saloons and was stabbed to death in one, aged in his early forties. -
Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
! TRUMP to Hannity on declassifying documents:There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it. If you’re the president of the United states, you can declasify … **even by thinking about it**”
This raises all kinds of questions like, what happens if a president dreams about declassifying top secret intelligence, or hands someone w/o a clearance a declassified document and then mentally classify, subjecting them to legal jeopardy.
Trump also suggests he didn’t know Raymond Dearie but thought he might’ve been skeptical of DOJ because of his involvement in signing the fourhter FISA warrant for Carter Page.
“He was stung badly by that. The people in the Justice Department lied to him.”
13-dimensional chess lol.
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Lakes have feelings too.
Spain grants personhood status to threatened lagoon (Phys.org, 21 Sep)
Spain granted personhood status Wednesday to a large saltwater lagoon to give its threatened ecosystem better protection, the first time such a measure has been taken in Europe.
The initiative to grant the status to the Mar Menor—one of Europe’s largest saltwater lagoons—was debated in parliament after campaigners collected over 500,000 signatures backing it.
It now becomes law after Spain’s Senate, the upper house of parliament, voted in favour of the proposal, with only far-right party Vox opposing it.
This will allow the rights of the lagoon located in southeastern Spain to be defended in court, as though it were a person or business.
I wonder if it can vote in Spanish elections?
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Turned on the nation’s memorial service for the Queen part way through, caught Peter Dutton speaking followed by some poor coot caterwauling and really trying to get the most from his vocal range to deliver whatever pap he was singing. Now being treated to piano bar music while everyone places one single flower to honour the Queen.
Also the very irritating flag placement.
I can only assume that, like the pandemic, there was a plan in place for a memorial service, but it has been entirely ignored.
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So, let’s say Mayblooms FC has just signed some kid with a Resting Heart Rate of 35.
Having him run laps of the training track is pointless, since, duh, he’s got a Resting Heart Rate of 35.
But, with that Low Heart Rate comes a Low Boredom Threshold.
So, they’ve gotta keep the kid on a short leash until they’re wrung every bit of value outta him and they can cut him loose. -
Ed Casesays:
September 22, 2022 at 12:09 pm
It appears that people with a Low Resting Heart Rate are more likely to exhibit AntiSocial Behaviours [such as violence] from a young age.If true interesting. Lack of arousal, need high stimulus loading to enhance emotional response. Sometimes ascribed to psychopaths as a cause for their over the top behaviors. However I don’t trust anything Ed claims unless I’ve verified it.
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Ellison Brown, he won the Boston Marathon twice, killed outside a bar aged 62, usual Wikipedia mythmaking, he was no fucking good.
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If we’re going to be consistent with the Paris Agreement, we will need to reduce emissions at a greater rate. We can do this by taking advantage of new technologies and unlocking innovation. We will not do this by approving more fossil fuel projects and that is something that I look forward to having more discussions about.
But for now, we can celebrate that Australia is finally on the start line of the race to Net Zero, coming into step with the wider international community.
Ah I wonder if they considered that only 30% of Australian voters voted for this lot. But hey, throwing out all your gas appliances and replacing them with electrical ones is climate action we can all participate in, and buying an EV instead of petrol or diesel will be exciting and good for the planet. These people are naïve useful idiots.
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More from Wiki on Ellison Brown:
He usually sold the medals and trophies he won while racing in order to support his family. Tom Derderian wrote, “The economy in these depression times provided little for most Americans and nothing for Indians. They were a conquered people living on the margin… Ellison Myers Brown, born on the margin, saw running as his only way out of poverty.”[11]
Or, he was a drunk that squandered every penny he ever earnt.
Brown’s nephews remember their uncle as a great storyteller.
His wife lived until 2015, what was her opinion?
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Ed Casesays:
September 22, 2022 at 12:24 pm
So, let’s say Mayblooms FC has just signed some kid with a Resting Heart Rate of 35.
Having him run laps of the training track …Displaying your ignorance yet again, Googlery.
“Running laps” hasn’t been part of the training regimen for AFL clubs for at least 20 years.
You might occasionally see footage of players jogging around the perimeter of the oval to warm up.
It is never more than 800 metres and it is done at slow jog.
It is not considered a “training drill”.
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Just unreal.
47 charged in alleged $250 million Feeding Our Future fraud scheme
“These 47 defendants engaged in a brazen scheme of staggering proportions,” U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said during a press conference, describing the $250 million total as just the “floor.”
Where and what were they stealing from?
The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced charges against 47 Minnesotans Tuesday for allegedly defrauding the federal government’s child nutrition programs of $250 million in a little over 20 months.
“These 47 defendants engaged in a brazen scheme of staggering proportions,” U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said during a press conference, describing the $250 million total as just the “floor” because the federal investigation continues.
At the center of the charges is Aimee Bock, the founder and executive director of Feeding Our Future, a nonprofit whose offices were raided in January. Tuesday’s press conference marked a dramatic escalation in the case as the federal government spent the eight months since the raids preparing six indictments against 47 individuals for charges ranging from conspiracy and wire fraud to money laundering and bribery.
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Sure, John. I asked Head to show something to support his claim about 16% of Aboriginals are psychopathic. The reply was I was just being “sad”.
Well, you are being sad.
But, no matter!
My claim that 1.5% of White Americans are Psychopaths, do you dispute that?
And since you’d have an Agoraphobia attack if you strayed outside a
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Turned on the nation’s memorial service for the Queen part way through, caught Peter Dutton speaking followed by some poor coot caterwauling and really trying to get the most from his vocal range to deliver whatever pap he was singing
The memorial service began with a ‘smoking ceremony” and a “Welcome to Country.” Words fail me.
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Head:
My claim that 1.5% of White Americans are Psychopaths, do you dispute that?
Sure, I’d dispute because firstly it’s you, The Head, and secondly there’s nothing to back up your claim. There are some, but you and I have no idea the number.
Oh I see, the personal anecdote being now evidence. The lived experience thing that leftwingers always trot out when attempting to make an emotive claim.
But let’s go with this. Assume I’ve met zero aboriginals and that’s possibly true, why does your claim hold up?
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Can anyone briefly explain what John Adams is talking about
The 2nd POTUS?
Who cares.re: epic and systemic financial corruption in entertainment and sport?
Well, the NFL was dying in 1960, then the FCC Commissioner reclassified Football from Sport to Entertainment for the benefit of the TV Networks, so it’s been 62 years [2 Generations + 2 years] downhill from there.
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All roads lead to Somalia eh, Sancho?
This melon doesn’t look real Somalian, if you get my drift. -
Bear
Sure, they do get caught possibly.
I’m not shocked that they stole it. I’m staggered the government had no idea until a whistle blower showed up at their FBI.
I’m not saying this occurred here but it wouldn’t surprise that someone worked it out but kept their mouth shut for fear of the wacist label.
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Here we go! Russian reinforcements training in St Petersburg before deployment in the Ukraine!!
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Completely innocent!
“offered to pay him $40,000 per month to use his small storefront restaurant for the Stigma-Free Willmar site” and ultimately paid him a total of $570,000 in 2021. ”
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Marjorie O’Neill accused of hypocrisy over Sydney Football Stadium
Adelaide LangNCA NewsWire
Thu, 22 September 2022 7:59AMA Labor MP has been accused of hypocrisy after she was seen visiting the newly rebuilt Sydney Football Stadium after vocally criticising the multimillion dollar project.
Coogee MP Marjorie O’Neill was spotted in the plush corporate box watching three NRL games from the privileged vantage point, after vocally opposing the $828m stadium rebuild as unwarranted and unwanted.
Pictures obtained by The Daily Telegraph show the Sydney politician enjoying the benefits of the luxurious redevelopment after Labor leader Chris Minns reportedly cautioned ministers not to visit the stadium in light of their previous opposition.
During the 2019 state election campaign, Dr O’Neill was strongly against the multimillion dollar “stadium splurge”.
“This community does not want a new stadium,” she wrote on social media after a press conference in March 2019.
In parliament on Tuesday, NSW Sports Minister Alister Henskens slammed Dr O’Neill for backflipping on her fierce stance.
“She has been in the corporate box not once, not twice, but three times in the last three weeks,” he said.
“(Labor) say one thing, they do another. They are hypocrites.”
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Makka
That reminds me. Early this week, I suggested to The Driller that we should avoid talking to and about each other. It was my way to see if he could stop his lowrent stupid stoush trolling. He couldn’t do it . By early afternoon next day, which is when he begins sloshing down cheap liquor, the baseload lying kunt started trolling me again. So don’t include me in the list of those that ought to get the size 10. Baseload is one of the worst offenders.
See the last needless stupid comment.
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UAF has been hitting a brick wall for three weeks in Kherson. They must be bleeding white down there
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… always reckon the local indigenous copied the smoking ceremony from the Catholic missionaries.
Having read comprehensively (though it should be noted not exhaustively) plenty of material written about Aborigines/Indigenous/First Nations/new moniker to come in the 1930s & earlier, nowhere in all that reading has there been mention of a smoking ceremony in any context other than for exorcising evil spirits from a particular location, and this was a most rare & thus a remarkable occasion.
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Knuckle Draggersays:
September 21, 2022 at 5:13 pm
Shaun Burgoyne said today it was the first he heard of it. Now if you were a young black player who had coach Clarkson come to you asking for you and your partner to abort a pregnancy, you would think to tell the most senior Aboriginal player at the club.Bang on.
Burgoyne, due to his length of service and reputation would be regarded as an ‘elder’, no doubt – by the young indig blokes at the club, at least. In fact, Burgoyne would have been held in high regard by all assembled, regardless of anyone’s predilection for possum skin shawls.
There is zero chance they hadn’t asked him for advice. If, of course, this caper’s got any legs in it.
What does the AFL’s CEO do after these sensational claims have been made? Why, condemn them instantly at the same time he announces a formal inquiry into the matter. Way to go, Gil!
I just saw a “media person” on Sky – someone from the WA press, it seems – name unknown. I caught the bit of the discussion about the way to combat anything like “this.” What does that even mean, since this is an as yet unproven “thing”? (He at least had the care to draw back a bit and say that they’re only alleged claims).
Even so, on “combating” “this,” he referred to, and I missed the bit about where the idea came from, that the way to deal with all stuff to do with aboriginal players was to have an indigenous person on every club board. What a magnificent idea I hear you say! So, my question is, are these two things somehow linked?
& Bush at 4:24pm yesterday
+1The entire country was told in no uncertain terms by our governing class that everyone had to get jabbed or they would lose their jobs. Pregnant women, despite their concern for the health of their babies or those who were intending to start a family, were not given any dispensation from getting the jab, nor were people who’d previously had anaphylaxis.
Young people who had no chance of getting seriously ill from covid-19, unless their health was already severely compromised, had to roll up the sleeve. Never mind that they were being “asked” to play Russian roulette with their future health.
Those who would not conform were threatened with losing their rights, were denied the right to go about their normal activities because they didn’t have their papers and were ostracised. But it was all “for the greater good.” “You need to do it for the community – for grannie,” we were told.
Well, in footy parlance, the reason for doing anything and everything is to put the team in the best position to win and win bigly. When Tom Hafey was made the coach of the Swans he appeared on 60 Minutes and was asked “what is funny about football?” He responded, “nothing, there’s nothing funny about football.”
Footy requires a complete focus from everyone associated with the club. Every player, coach, trainer, support staff, member, fan – absolutely everyone – is working for one thing only – winning the flag.
When the AFL and every other organisation and business in this country apologies for not standing up to the politicians/medical/media-fascists against forced vaccination and acknowledge their own culpability in their forced vaccination programs, then and only then, will I commiserate with these “claims.”
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Aussie below 66 cents and trading at 65.90 ish.
Look, I could be wrongly bigly, but I’ve never been so bearish on stocks, the Aussie as much as I am now. It’s just so freaking ugly. And we can’t live on bread.. I mean the US alone. Europe is rooted and China is fucked. If Cronkite’s prediction becomes true that the demonrats cheat bigly at the mid terms and it looks apparent, stocks are going down 50% and there’s no way out of that rabbit hole. I can change my mind, and could very well be wrong. but boy I’m negative.
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
September 22, 2022 at 1:52 pmthe baseload lying kunt
JC’s self-imposed civility is proceeding as expected.
I’m not civil to you for the many reasons I have mentioned in the past. Stop talking to me and about me, you fucking moron. You’re not going to get anywhere trying to change my mind that I think you’re a blowhard , *baseload liar with zero attributes. You had an opportunity the other to stop talking to me. Try it, you’ll feel better about yourself as I won’t be pointing out what a worthless sack of shit you are. Seriously, just fuck off. It’s not going to be a one way street, Champ.
* you can’t be truthful above a certain level. Kinda like baseload power.
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JCsays:
September 22, 2022 at 1:52 pm
Aussie below 66 cents and trading at 65.90 ish.Look, I could be wrongly bigly, but I’ve never been so bearish on stocks, the Aussie as much as I am now. It’s just so freaking ugly. And we can’t live on bread.. I mean the US alone. Europe is rooted and China is fucked. If Cronkite’s prediction becomes true that the demonrats cheat bigly at the mid terms and it looks apparent, stocks are going down 50% and there’s no way out of that rabbit hole. I can change my mind, and could very well be wrong. but boy I’m negative.
I rely on your views about these matters. There is a lot of worry around the globe about the current economic circumstances. I’m bemused about the inflation concerns given the huge buckets of money governments have poured into the economy. Struck me as way over the top and now we’re paying the price.
What I don’t understand JC is why the MSM is so focused on China as a military threat when it increasingly has internal problems that are presenting huge challenges to maintain its growth.
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It’s just so freaking ugly.
There’s a few things on my mind…
To get inflation down to the Fed’s target and maintain it, I’m expecting UE to get close to 5% + . IR’s at close to 5%. IF oil behaves. If not then IR’s at 5%+
The USD will continue pushing higher , AUD lower. AUD could easily get to mid-high 50’s.
S&P around 3500-3000 in that scenario.
All of that just my opinion and could easily be quite wrong. It’s all about the (US) Dollar.
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Questions:
The name of the pool from which Eddie Betts was expelled for swimming while black?
It would seem worthwhile putting a few questions to management.
The Indigene couple allegedly instructed to abort their baby, what else was the player up to? I’m thinking here of the Bulldogs’ Liberatore, who was picked up by the wallopers from a planter box at Crown when passed out in a haze of grog and God knows what else. He was actively encouraged to reform by breaking contact with companions apt to lead him astray.
Also thinking of the Melbourne player from Yuendemu a few years ago who got into all sorts of trouble and ended up being sent home (where only the other day he was picked up on some sort of grievous bodily harm charge). Ah, Jarra! That was his name.
I fear that checking the details will be deliberately overlooked because the racism narrative is so much sexier.
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John H
I grew into adulthood when the world began to deregulate and open up. I mean I started working as the Carter era ended, Reagan came on board, Maggie had been around for a few years and Hawke took over. I saw a world open up economically that went on for decades and it’s been an amazing ride. It’s over I think. I don’t know what to make of this world, but it doesn’t not good.
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why the MSM is so focused on China as a military threat when it increasingly has internal problems that are presenting huge challenges to maintain its growth.
I think you answered your own question there. The MSM will focus on what their CCP friends allow (projected strength) , and suppress anything and everything it wants kept low low key(internal discontent and economic calamity). There’s a very big CCP meeting coming up which may shed light on future direction but we’ll have to be good at reading the tea leaves.
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New York Post
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Shannon Brandt free after admitting he mowed down ‘Republican’ teen over politics https://trib.al/7zCcub0Disgusting and disgraceful.
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areff …
Liberatore, who was picked up by the wallopers from a planter box at Crown when passed out in a haze of grog and God knows what else. He was actively encouraged to reform by breaking contact with companions apt to lead him astray.
Not saying I buy into the story, but saying “Stop getting on the piss with Macca and Drongo” is not quite the same as “You might want to coathanger the foetus”.
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New York Post
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Shannon Brandt free after admitting he mowed down ‘Republican’ teen over politics https://trib.al/7zCcub0Disgusting and disgraceful.
Following on from head prefect referring to my prediction the mid terms are cooked I reckon a few of these events will occur between now and then; and what the demorats will be waiting for is the slightest vigilante response from republicans which will give them the excuse to scream revolution/insurrection and call off the mid terms.
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Sancho, agreed. And don’t make me for a Clarkson fan. He’s a shit, as one particularly incident relates.
Last game of the year and Buddy Franklin has just kicked his 100. At the other end, Brendan Fevola is on 99 for the year, with Carlton losing badly and less than a minute to to go.
So what does Clarkson do? Remember, there’s no chance Carlton can win. He sends every Hawk into the Carlton goal square to make sure barrackers didn’t see two star forwards reach 100 goals on the same day.
Petty and spiteful — the two key words for Clarkson.
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The Indigene couple allegedly instructed to abort their baby, what else was the player up to?
If true, nothing else matters to me.
God, we’ve bitched and moaned here about Governments and employers mandating private medical procedures for their “subjects”.
If the player was “up to something”, by all means give him a rev about whatever that “something” is.
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Taurevanime
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Most people in the West do not know that Yandex is the search engine of choice in Russia.Plus, you’ll find that said google metric is the search terms written in English, not Russian. That is how it always goes.
Quote TweetBaron of the Taiga
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Btw, western psyop propaganda machine is now pushing two narratives:> Russians are fleeing en masse, based on Google search stats and other dubious metrics
> Russians are being drafted randomly off the street (this isn’t happening)Big Tech at it again.
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My mob, in the Kimberly’s, always reckon the local indigenous copied the smoking ceremony from the Catholic missionaries.
This excerpt is from Geoffrey Blainey’s book, The Story of Australia’s People – The rise and fall of ancient Australia (2015)- a discussion about Aboriginal ceremonies in Arnhem Land – pp 232, 236-237.
the Macassar fleet (which Blainey puts as first arriving on the coast, probably later than AD1600)
departure at the end of the wet season impressed itself upon the spectators on the beaches; and some of the mystery of the embarkation was captured and woven into the ceremonies…The raising of the mast in the vessels about to sail, and the last farewells, were actually grafted onto the burial ritual of Aborigines. Generations later a visitor to Arnhem Land was surprised to see several men, at a traditional funeral, lift up the dead body and move it up and down as if they were preparing to raise a mast. These movements were matched by a dance that imitated the hauling of those ropes used to raise a mast. Then some of the mourners chanted an imitation of the prayer which the Macassans had sometimes recited. The climax of the ceremony was the repeating of the cry which the Macassans had called out when the mast was at last erect and firmly placed on deck: a cry kept all those years in tribal memory and repeated even after the foreign ships ceased coming with the wet monsoon. A day of two after the burial, the final symbol of the voyage was erected on the grave: a mast of Macassan design.
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The name of the pool from which Eddie Betts was expelled for swimming while black?
What baffles me about this is Betts total lack of detail being believed without any questions plus what does it have to do with the Hawthorn episode or footie in general ..?
the reality is it only getz a start cos Betts .. 251 .. ex footie .. nuttin’ else .. and they (media) get on their high horse about discrimination .. FFS! -
The great replacement is real…
President Macron, who made his remarks on Thursday, also called for a new system to redistribute migrants across France, specifically in “rural areas,
Bound to work!
Someone I know worked in immigration in Adelaide, told me that “migrants” were sent from the eastern states to South Australia to try and ease the burden on Sydney.
They got off the train, whipped out mobiles and called taxis to the airport – back in Sydney the same day to re-join the invaders. -
Feds “entitled to a stay of the district court’s order, to the extent that it (1) requires the government to submit for the special master’s review the documents with classification markings and (2) enjoins the United States from using that subset of documents in a criminal investigation.”
From the Opinion issued tonight (emphasis added):
Following the execution of a search warrant at the residence of Plaintiff-Appellee, former President Donald J. Trump, Plaintiff moved for the appointment of a special master to review the documents that Defendant-Appellant United States of America seized. The district court granted that motion in substantial part. Now, the United States moves for a partial stay of the district court’s order as it relates to the roughly one-hundred documents bearing classification markings. We decide only the narrow question presented: whether the United States has established that it is entitled to a stay of the district court’s order, to the extent that it (1) requires the government to submit for the special master’s review the documents with classification markings and (2) enjoins the United States from using that subset of documents in a criminal investigation. We conclude that it has.
We stress the limited nature of our review: this matter comes to us on a motion for a partial stay pending appeal. We cannot (and do not) decide the merits of this case. We decide only the traditional equitable considerations, including whether the United States has shown a substantial likelihood of prevailing on the merits, the harm each party might suffer from a stay, and where the public interest lies.
For the reasons we explain below, we grant the United States’s motion for a partial stay pending appeal.
Key parts of the Opinion:
?? Mike Davis ??
@mrddmia
11th Circuit didn’t address these key legal points.Again, under Presidential Records Act:
1. Records “received” by the President are presidential records
2. He determines what are “personal”
2. Former Presidents get unfettered access to their records
Including classified.
P.S. “Presidential records” include documents “created or received” by the President and his staff.
Guess what this includes?
Documents the President receives from government agencies.
Classified or non-classified.
See 44 U.S.C. § 2201(2).
Game over, Biden.
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Petty and spiteful — the two key words for Clarkson.
Ian Aitken might agree.
Who king hits a bloke in a demo match in London?
And he hasn’t changed.
My mail is that he didn’t so much reject the Essendon job, as Essendon wouldn’t buckle to his demand for absolute control over the footy club.
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It might be 62% bullshit but, on the other hand, footy clubs exercise far too much control over the private lives of players.
The control comes from the contract(s) players sign in exchange for the BIG money! .. they have a choice which these dayz seems to involve signing & saying, “Yep, sure, I agree”.. then whingeing to the media when it doesn’t fit in wiv their, preferred, “free spirited” lifestyle ……
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No one has mentioned this yet but there appears to have been a prisoner exchange overnight:
Dr.Snekotron
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Regardless of what one may think of the morality of prisoner exchanges, what is hidden by Kiev’s informational victory is that they have no more Russian prisoners in their hands. Corruption, personal connections for Medvedchuk (who was exchanged here), etc might all be true.
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????Commanders of the Azovstal defense, including Denys Prokopenko, the head of the Azov regiment, deputy commander Svyatoslav Palamar and marine commander Serhiy Volynsky, were among the 215 people released from Russian captivity in a massive prisoner exchange on Sept. 21.215 for 85 Rus. Was 1:1 in previous exchanges. If, as is suggested, UKR has no more captured RUS, further evidence that recent victory in Kharkov yield very few if any captured RUS soldiers because they were hardly there.
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areff.
Without throwing Clarkson a lifeline, the comment might have been along the lines of, “I don’t think you are ready to be a father”.
But it seems that what followed supports the kid’s story.
If he actually did move house to live with one of the coaches and his sim-card/phone number changed, it isn’t a good look for Clarkson.
That screams control freak.
And it also tells of a bloke who is an ordinary leader. The only way he knows to influence a young bloke is put him under “soft house arrest”. -
JC says:
September 22, 2022 at 1:08 pm
RosieHow do you steal upwards of US$250 million and the only reason the government found out was through a whistleblower? Just wow. The US government is so inefficient.
30 billion is spent every year on Aboriginal Affairs programs with no discernible improvement in sociology-economic conditions. Where do you think that all goes?
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. Nearly 10 million Optus customers have personal details taken in cyber attack
. Optus is advising customers to check bank accounts for suspicious activity
. The telco giant has notified key financial institutions about this matter
. Customers’ payment details have not been compromised in the attackClose to 10 million Optus customers have been urged to check their accounts after their personal details were stolen in what is believed to be one of the biggest cyber attacks in Australian history.
Hackers stole 2.8 million customers’ passport and drivers licence numbers, email and home addresses, dates of birth and telephone numbers after reportedly exploiting a weakness in the company’s firewall.
The remaining seven million had their dates of birth, email addresses and phone numbers stolen.
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Oi, shatterzzz!
FMD, shatterzzz, I responded to that last night.
AFL/NRL/RA contracts are not negotiable. The clubs don’t even have a say in the “behavioural/reputational” clauses stuck in the contracts. They are determined by the likes of Raelene Castle.
Remember her?
The players either sign, or go digging ditches for a living.
The clauses will never survive a court hearing because everyone knows they are unconscionable and irrelevant to the core business being contracted for … kicking a footy.
This is why RA folded their tent over Folau, but who else would take them on?
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areff.
Without throwing Clarkson a lifeline, the comment might have been along the lines of, “I don’t think you are ready to be a father”.I expect this is likely to be the case. That said, it is not until you experience casual racism that you become attuned to it. Ask any Aussie working in a major London law firm. Aboriginal players have always carried their own risks for footy clubs. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that a couple of coaches overstepped the mark along the way.
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Having read comprehensively (though it should be noted not exhaustively) plenty of material written about Aborigines/Indigenous/First Nations/new moniker to come in the 1930s & earlier, nowhere in all that reading has there been mention of a smoking ceremony in any context other than for exorcising evil spirits from a particular location, and this was a most rare & thus a remarkable occasion.
Considering that Ernie Dingo has come out and said on multiple occasions that he & a mate invented, “Welcome to Country” as a way of earning some extra money and then somewhere along the line the “smoking” bit got added for extra “oomph” I’m baffled why folk still look for the “genuine” product in “past culture” ….. FFS!
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Roger says:
September 21, 2022 at 7:28 pm
…up to 60 years old.dover0beach says:
September 21, 2022 at 8:23 pmThey are calling up 300K out of 2M or so reserves. As reported: “Citizens who are currently in the reserve and, above all, those who have served in the Armed Forces, have certain military occupations and relevant experience will be subject to call-up for military service”
As a follow-up, the phone lines were alight last night. From the information received, the call-up will be in three broad groupings and occur simultaneously. There will be some cross-over between the groups subject to the individual’s military experience and rank when discharged from the regular force.
Basically, the first group are active reserve aged up to 25 years old and who will form the main bulk of the force. Group two will include personnel aged 26-35 years and also be a source of an appropriate number of NCOs up to about Senior Sergeant level and (probably) some officers up to about Junior Lieutenant. Group three will include some lower rank personnel aged 36-45 years but will also source higher rank officers up to about Senior Lieutenant or possibly Captain.
In a clarification overnight, the Russian defence minister confirmed that only people with relevant combat and service experience will be called up.
(Beyond the active reserve there is also the ‘inactive’ reserve which is basically anyone under 60 who has served in the military. The inactive reserve number around 25-30 million but there are a large number of exemption categories available so the number is very fluid. Probably more accurate to think of the inactive reserve as militarily experienced personnel for the defence of the Motherland.)
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If he actually did move house to live with one of the coaches and his sim-card/phone number changed, it isn’t a good look for Clarkson.
That screams control freak.
And it also tells of a bloke who is an ordinary leader. The only way he knows to influence a young bloke is put him under “soft house arrest”.Clarko hasn’t denied it, so you can take that to the bank.
The next question, which absolutely no one in the Media is game to ask [or speculate on] is:
Why was this player managed in this way?
Clarko is history at North Melbourne for sure, but if Jeff Kennett isn’t also history at Hawthorn, then you can make a pretty good guess at the origin of this atrocity story.l -
Oi, shatterzzz!
FMD, shatterzzz, I responded to that last night.
AFL/NRL/RA contracts are not negotiable. The clubs don’t even have a say in the “behavioural/reputational” clauses stuck in the contracts.
What rubbish! .. of course the clubs write the contracts .. the players sign ’em!.. If you don’t like the terms don’t sign .. all jobs carry restrictions .. your their to earn money not do as you like ….. and if the contract is sooo onerous why aren’t these players in court instead of whingeing to the media? .. because they signed and haven’t got a legal leg to stand on so they are hoping a bit of of adverse publicity will sway the club to buy ’em orff! ..
it’s all about MONEY not feelinz .. FFS!
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H B Bearsays:
September 22, 2022 at 3:09 pm
areff.
Without throwing Clarkson a lifeline, the comment might have been along the lines of, “I don’t think you are ready to be a father”.I expect this is likely to be the case. That said, it is not until you experience casual racism that you become attuned to it. Ask any Aussie working in a major London law firm.
You don’t need to go that far, or be that black.
Try turning up to any major Law or Accounting firm in Melbourne in the 1980’s – 1990’s.
Man, you felt naked without your Old Scotch tie. It has probably improved a fair bit by now. But don’t be fooled by their indigenous employment programs.
They would be dripping in tokenism with a capital “T”.
But, yes, even disputing some details of exact wording and intent, it sounds like a fuck up from go-to-whoa. -
“Citizens who are currently in the reserve and, above all, those who have served in the Armed Forces, have certain military occupations and relevant experience will be subject to call-up for military service”
Reports flights & trains out of Russia are booked out.
Make of that what you will.
Borders not yet closed though.
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some galah opines:
What does the AFL’s CEO do after these sensational claims have been made? Why, condemn them instantly at the same time he announces a formal inquiry into the matter. Way to go, Gil!
AFL and the Media have a symbiotic relationship going back decades.
Here’s a far more likely scenario:
The guy gets a friendly heads up that the story is going to break in a few days time, his investigators track down the truth or otherwise of the story, an official response is made taking into account
Truth, Politics and Money.
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From what I’ve read, is it just me or do others also find these AFL/Hawthorn tales manufactured, fantastic, improbable, unlikely and deliberately constructed to suit an ideological agenda, to destroy, to destabilise and to paint ordinary Australians as waaaaaaaaaaaciiiiiiiiiist?
Oh and these fantastic and fabulous tales provide us with an insight into what will happen if the Da Voice is passed and legislated. We’ll see similar on steroids and this country and people like us will be effed.
And in more madness…
“Karl Stefanovic investigated by police after waiter alleges touch at cancer fundraiser
Karl Stefanovic has been embroiled in a police investigation after a waiter alleged he was touched by the breakfast show star at a cancer fundraiser in Brisbane.
TV star Karl Stefanovic has been embroiled in a police investigation after a waiter at a charity gala claimed he was touched and complained to police.
The Courier-Mail can reveal the male waiter alleged he was touched by Mr Stefanovic at Brisbane’s Mercedes-Benz melanoma fundraiser.
Mr Stefanovic, the host of Nine’s Today Show, attended the charity event at Newstead with his wife Jasmine in August.
The six-hour event hosted by Mr Stefanovic, 48, raised $290,000 for melanoma research.
A Queensland Police Service spokesman confirmed they were investigating a report of an alleged assault of a man at a Newstead business during an event on Saturday, August 20.
“Queensland Police are investigating a report regarding the alleged assault of a man at a
Newstead business during an event on Saturday, August 20,” a spokesman said.
“As investigations are ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment further.”
The matter is understood to have been discussed behind closed doors to seek a resolution.
Mr Stefanovic and his wife posted photos from the event, The Six-Hour Project, which raises awareness to increase detection and find a cure for melanoma.
About 350 people attended the charity’s inaugural fundraiser, and the proceeds went to The Mater Foundation and Melanoma Institute of Australia.
He returned to Australia on Wednesday night after travelling to London to cover the Queen’s funeral for Channel 9.
The 48-year-old was pictured at Sydney Airport after his show’s marathon coverage of the funeral.
Mr Stefanovic’s lawyers were approached for comment and declined.
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because they signed and haven’t got a legal leg to stand on
You need to read what I wrote.
They do have a leg to stand on if the clause is unconscionable.
And they invariably are.
But you don’t find out to what extent until you do whatever it was that wasn’t specified in the contract, but a Raelene decides is “bringing the game into disrepute” afterwards.
Once again, yes, the contract is between the player and the club, but the code determines these clauses.
And the code has right of veto over contract clauses.
Anyone who thinks that there is a power equilibrium when an 18 year old signs an AFL contract is dreaming.
They nominate for a draft, they go where they are told and they sign the contract put in front of them. Any attempt at amending it and you will see a story under Caro’s by-line the following day tut-tutting about your “big head” and “discipline issues”. -
Anyone who can manipulate the ‘upticks’ can also repeatedly ‘report’ comments to have them automatically disappear, including his own stupid, boastful, ill advised and incriminating comments, when it suddenly appears it might be inconvenient.
I reported myself yesterday. How many do you need to be “disappeared”, Mater?
It seems that the place could be turned into a popularity contest quite easily.
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What does the AFL’s CEO do after these sensational claims have been made? Why, condemn them instantly at the same time he announces a formal inquiry into the matter. Way to go, Gil!
Bwah ha ha ha.
Gillon McPolo-Pony is on the run to the finish line.
This report has been bobbing around like a turd in the pool for two weeks before their ABC reported it.
No doubt McPolo-Pony had a plan to bury it in some AFL ethics committee for a few more weeks then leave the pile of shit for his successor. -
Buckle up, normies
Dot, you have no business calling anyone a normie given this normiest of normie takes:
This is as delusional as claiming retreating from Homostel airport/airbase was no tactical or strategic loss.
China clearly is screwing Putin in trade deals. Russia cannot even field a proper army anymore. They’re losing to a second rate Soviet bloc militia with western drones (they should have won months ago). China has 1.3 bn people and a properly maintained nuclear arsenal.
When did you start mainlining CNN? Jeepers.
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I reported myself yesterday. How many do you need to be “disappeared”, Mater?
I think Dover said there was a threshold figure before he even looks at it, but wisely didn’t disclose that number.
And reporting means s.f.a. anyway.
I don’t think it automatically scuttles the comment. It just flags it for review. If a comment has been ditched, it is because the Blog owner deemed it unworthy and, using his proprietorial discretion, drew a line through it.
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Anti-monarchy protesters march in Melbourne
By Jackson GrahamMeanwhile, in Melbourne, anti-monarchy protesters have brought the city to a standstill on Australia’s national day of mourning for Queen Elizabeth II.
Those marching are calling for Aboriginal sovereignty and land rights.
Anti-monarchy protesters outside Melbourne’s Flinders Street.Anti-monarchy protesters outside Melbourne’s Flinders Street. Credit:Getty
Alli Toby, a Gangulu woman from central Queensland and current Geelong resident, said today’s public holiday is “not a day of mourning … for us”.
“We’re all here to mourn all the people that we’ve lost.”
Protesters chanted “down with the monarchy” and carried signs reading “land rights, not royal rights” and “Blak lives always matter”. The crowd stopped at Flinders Street and the British consulate general office on Collins Street.
Activist and academic Gary Foley, who addressed the crowd twice, said that Australia needs to acknowledge its history of colonisation. But he saw no hope of Australia becoming a republic before a referendum is held on an Indigenous Voice to parliament.
“There’s no way that a referendum will get up if a referendum on Indigenous Voice fails,” he said.
“Progress will never be made until Australians come to terms and understand their own history and face up. That’s not gonna happen in my lifetime.”
There were about 500 people at the protest, according to Victoria Police.
Gary Foley? Where have I heard that name before?
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An old, old man was lying in his death bed upstairs. His most favourite food in the world was chocolate chip cookies. As he lay there, gasping for each breath, he was sure he could smell freshly-baked chocolate chip cookies. He crawled out of bed and slowly limped down the stairs. Sure enough, across the kitchen, there was a huge platter of chocolate chip cookies on the table. He finally made it to the table and he reached a shaking hand towards the cookies. Suddenly, his wife slapped his hand sharply and yelled “DON’T TOUCH THOSE! They’re for the funeral!”
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Ed Casesays:
September 22, 2022 at 3:41 pm
Inferring kids from chaotic family situations had a lot more trouble settling into the discipline required to play professionally.You don’t know this particular Aborigine or his background, so you assume
Chaotic Family Situation, eh?Don’t be so po-faced. You have been making general assumptions about indigenous players since this story broke.
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Alli Toby, a Gangulu woman from central Queensland and current Geelong resident, …
Could be a descendant of Big Toby, a 2 m. Aborigine arrested for Murder in C.Q. in the late 19th C.
He was manacled at the neck and wrists, picked up an axe between his toes, killed the bloke with the keys, and escaped.
Native Troopers eventually hunted him down and took of his head, but, assuming that we eventually recognise the Black Wars, he’d be in line for a Posthumous VC, wouldn’t he?
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Game over, Biden.
If only. I think entrenched corruption throughout the Demonrats negates Biden exiting stage right any time soon – barring some unfortunate accident.
In other words, the US is stuffed and so are we. I have no faith that the midterms will be held with prudence, honesty and be above corruption. The fix will happen in front of our faces and there is nothing decent US citizens will be able to do about it – other than civil unrest on a very large scale.
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Ed Case says:
September 22, 2022 at 3:41 pm
Inferring kids from chaotic family situations had a lot more trouble settling into the discipline required to play professionally.
You don’t know this particular Aborigine or his background, so you assume
Chaotic Family Situation, eh?Here is a good example of how a player overcame a chaotic family situation. Others would liken it to the stolen generations narrative
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I think the comment about “chaotic home lives” was in the context of what we might call, “white trash” rather than Aboriginal players.
Typically the absentee father from age four shows up when the kid gets drafted and insists on being treated like royalty by the club.
Not an estranged father beforehand so much, but there was a recent case of a Swans player who had to tell his old man to fuck off because of his overbearing bullshit around the club. And the player in question is not Aboriginal.
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Putin Is At War With The WEST – Not Ukraine
From Martin Armstrong –
“Vladimir Putin’s recent speech is making headlines as people falsely claim Russia is about to launch an all-out nuclear attack. Putin is sticking to his same plan and says it in his opening statement: “The subject of this address is the situation in Donbas and the course of the special military operation to liberate it from the neo-Nazi regime, which seized power in Ukraine in 2014 as the result of an armed state coup.” Russia must now play defense as they are no longer simply battling Ukraine.
Putin stated that in 1991 the West prided itself on dividing the USSR, and believes “now is the time to do the same to Russia, which must be divided into numerous regions that would be at deadly feud with each other. They decided these plans years ago.”
Putin knows that he is fighting a NATO offensive and not simply Ukraine and directly calls out Washington, London, and Brussels. He correctly stated that the West first set out to demonize Russia and spread “Russophobia,” as they did during the Cold War. NATO and the West are now the opponents of Russia in this proxy war, while the Ukrainian people are merely cannon fodder used to usher in this new world.
Putin has been trying to reclaim land since 2014. He had no plan to seize Ukraine, but did want to reclaim the Donbas. This is much bigger than Russia v Ukraine as he fears he must act on the offensive against most of the world’s superpowers who want to seize Russia. They are shoving endless funds into Ukraine because they expect a prize in the end. Putin stated that he attempted peace talks, but the West shot them down because they craved war.
“After the start of the special military operation, in particular after the Istanbul talks, Kiev representatives voiced quite a positive response to our proposals. These proposals concerned above all ensuring Russia’s security and interests. But a peaceful settlement obviously did not suit the West, which is why, after certain compromises were coordinated, Kiev was actually ordered to wreck all these agreements.
More weapons were pumped into Ukraine. The Kiev regime brought into play new groups of foreign mercenaries and nationalists, military units trained according to NATO standards and receiving orders from Western advisers.”
This will not end well; the West made it clear that peace would not be an option. Zelensky is simply the face of a much larger plan at play that involves an ongoing plot to seize Russia, which has been happening behind the scenes for decades.”
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This
apparently counts as being silenced.
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No doubt McPolo-Pony had a plan to bury it in some AFL ethics committee for a few more weeks then leave the pile of shit for his successor.
At any given time I expect there would be a half dozen plus of these issues floating around AFL House. If you waited for them all to be resolved you would never leave. This one does seem to have taken off like an Ash Wednesday campfire.
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Meanwhile, in Melbourne, anti-monarchy protesters have brought the city to a standstill on Australia’s national day of mourning for Queen Elizabeth II.
Those marching are calling for Aboriginal sovereignty and land rights.
Anti-monarchy protesters outside Melbourne’s Flinders Street.Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr. They already have Land Rights and get billions of dollars a year from the Australian Guv’ment (the long suffering Taxpayer). Do they want my house next?
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Old Leftysays:
September 22, 2022 at 4:18 pm
Thisapparently counts as being silenced.
So where was the ABC and these crowds when Australia was in lockdown under Totalitarian Rule. Not from the Monarchy but the Fascists right here. Where were they all?
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?? Mike Davis ?? @mrddmia
11th Circuit didn’t address these key legal points.
Again, under Presidential Records Act:
1. Records “received” by the President are presidential records
2. He determines what are “personal”
2. Former Presidents get unfettered access to their records
Including classified.P.S. “Presidential records” include documents “created or received” by the President and his staff.
Guess what this includes?
Documents the President receives from government agencies.
Classified or non-classified.
See 44 U.S.C. § 2201(2).
Game over, Biden.These “key legal points” are not law at all, but bullshit flung at a wall. They make no logical sense at all.
The 11th Circuit rejected it, for the moment. Your move, Judge Q’annon.
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Opinion: The last refuge of police comradery has been shattered forever
By Carey Joy
OPINION: An incredibly devastating and major blow has been dealt to the entire NT Police force this week due to the reprehensible actions and behaviour of the NT Police Command and Commissioner of Police, and another from which the already fragile force surely will not recover.
We have now seen the Commissioner and NT Police management destroy what is left of the ability of police officers to lean on each other and seek support when they need it.
This has been evidenced most lately by the illegally obtained material released through the current coronial inquest, but also includes the manner in which Alice Springs staff have been stood down recently and charged with breaches of police policy and alleged poor conduct for speaking to their mates.
At the same time we are being presented with the R U OK? Campaign, which encourages everyone to speak to their mate about their mental health, we have seen NT Police management remove the NTPFES social media post image of two commissioned officers holding an R U OK? sign after numerous current and ex-NT Police members commented, advising how poorly they had been treated and the simple fact that ‘no’, they were not ‘OK’.
As a 15-year police veteran, I am incredibly saddened and concerned by what has happened to our NT Police force and my ex-colleagues.
One would have imagined that the week prior to the biggest coronial trial that we have seen in our policing history, a concerned leader would attend Alice Springs, address his staff in person and put extra services in place to assist staff through this event.
One would have expected the leader, given the NTPOL is currently faced with record suicide levels, would ensure an NTPA rep, counsellor and welfare officer were posted in Alice as extra support for his staff going through such a difficult time in their careers. Instead, we have seen two superintendents and Deputy Commissioner Murray Smalpage sent to Alice to act as “liaisons” between NTPOL legal teams and the Commissioner to ensure their message is on course at the coronial.
So again, staff are second and the command structure protecting their own interests made the top priority.
The most astounding event so far, however, concerns the leaked messages and personal attack on Constable Zach Rolfe and other officers by means of disclosing what has been proven to be unlawfully obtained text messages.
The comments from the Coroner, in her ruling to permit illegally obtained private text messages, stated that, “Nothing in the Coroners Act expressly prohibits me from receiving, and considering, evidence that has been unlawfully obtained by another person”.
What this shows is that the Commissioner of Police has allowed investigators to illegally interrogate Constable Rolfe’s private phone and withdraw private conversation records involving different officers, retain these conversation records for over three years, then present them in a coronial inquest to publicly attack his own staff members.
Firstly, how is the Commissioner, who is meant to be the most ethical and trusted NT Police Officer we have, permitted to illegally obtain information and then use that information against his own staff members publicly when it suits him?
How has the Police Minister and the Chief Minister ignored these facts, and many more breaches of duty, but continue to leave him sitting in the chair as the Commissioner of Police? How is this not behaviour which directly ‘undermines the integrity of the Northern Territory Police and the community of the Northern Territory’, as has been levelled against another officer?
Why has no action been taken to ensure this can’t happen again? If the Commissioner can illegally obtain information from one of his staff members, what stops him from doing the same to any other Territorian, even with the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place? If he can illegally obtain it, he has shown that he will.
What’s clear to myself and other current and former officers is that this deliberate action was taken so the media could obtain this information and publish it, with the Commissioner believing people would then forgive him for his disastrous $4 million murder trial and agree, ‘yes Constable Rolfe and the IRT staff are naughty racist men, this is all their fault, not the NTPOL management team’.
However, the facts we have all seen on the body worn footage, show the behaviour of Rolfe and his partner prior to entering that house in Yuendumu and while in the dwelling were anything but racist. Constable Rolfe was respectful to those he approached. But then he was stabbed.
He was ultimately acquitted by a Supreme Court jury of murder and related charges.NT cops live with and protect Aboriginal people every day; sometimes it takes a toll
Our Police force and anyone who has ever lived in the NT, understands there is no way a genuinely racist person harbouring racist views towards Indigenous people would ever choose to work in such a location, where 90 per cent of your job as an NT Police officer is living amongst, working with, and protecting Indigenous persons. So, to suggest a racist would choose to work here is simply ludicrous.But that’s what Chalker wanted the public to believe and to use the texts to distract from other problems and failures in the force.
What the leaking of the illegally obtained text messages actually did, was destroy the last element of the fabric of the NT Police force’s sense of comradery and security.
We were always told as new recruits that at times you will need to vent, swear or discuss things that the average person not in the police force would find very confronting and offensive. So, if ever you needed to vent, yell, cry or say things that are not for public consumption, you were to discuss them with your colleagues in private or inside the stations, as we were not to lose our composure in the public eye. The station and the officers next to us were our last line of defence and the only people who understood.
This, thanks to the behaviour of our Commissioner and the management team, has been completely destroyed.
Officers now know that private messages taken completely out of context can be illegally obtained, used against you and given to the national media for distribution.
Also, it requires raising, that under our latest executive, your police stations now feature secret audio and video devices which have been used recently to order other officers in Alice Springs stood down for airing their personal grievances to their peers about management.
Is this how the NT Police encourages its members to speak to their colleagues?
When I say the texts were ‘out of context’, I can offer this as an example: in one 24-hour period as an NT Police officer I attended a remote location where a 7-month-old baby had been raped by an adult male relative; I then attended a job in Larapinta where a male had used a saw to cut his grandfather’s head off save for approximately one-inch of skin, killing him.
I was a first responder to these jobs, and if it had not been for the ability to vent and message a colleague at 3am, god knows where I would have ended up.
The general public have no understanding at all of what horrors a police officer deals with and sadly in the NT, a lot of these incidents occur in Indigenous communities. The workload is simply beyond belief and we have the highest percentage of violent crimes per capita than anywhere in Australia.
Is it any wonder our officers are now faced with the worst retention rate in our history, the lowest recruitment rates in our history, the highest resignation rates in our history, critical staff shortages, and now tragically, the highest suicide rates in our history?
During the week of the R U OK campaign, we have seen the Commissioner show he is happy to have illegally obtained private messages disclosed against an officer without any regard for his mental well-being, and at the same time, happy to delete comments made on a post about mental well-being by other officers still trying to come to terms with the trauma they have suffered through the job.
Any ability to vent to a colleague or vent inside the station, which were these officers’ only places of safety, have been destroyed forever.
It is absolutely disgusting that this has occurred to the NT Police force and its staff; these officers now have all of their friendships compromised, comradery and security is gone and won’t be restored.
We have also seen just last week another eight NT Police officers resign. To put this into perspective, that is enough staff for an entire 10-hour shift in Alice Springs, who have now also left the force in one week.
If the NTPA survey was to be done now, after this last week, the number of officers with no confidence in the Commissioner would be in excess of 99 per cent.
Carey Joy is a former NT Police officer who worked in the Territory Response Group (TRG), led the Immediate Response Team’s (IRT) initial task force, and was also a federal agent in the Tactical Response Team (TRT), a national and international police tactical group working on deployments around Australia and overseas. His last five years in law enforcement were in Alice Springs with the NT Police as a general duties shift sergeant and bomb technician for the Central Region. He resigned in 2016 to start his own company.
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I don’t totally agree with Cronkers with his scenario that the Hidens will call off the election. I think that’s too severe even for them. However they will cheat and cheat a lot. I suspect the senate will be cheated away from the GOP but it will be very hard in the House. Vote harvesting will happen in a huge way and there’s still nothing being done materially to make the count transparent and to a point where counts can be audited. So what’s different to 2020?
In the past, the generic vote polls always seemed to support the Demons but this time around generic is going for the GOP which suggests a massive swing because even though the Demons had the generic in past , the GOP used to win even in that headwind. Let’s see, but I’m not optimistic.
Getting bank to Cronkite. I can’t discount his comments because there were two people in 2020 who predicted Trump would lose due to cheating . They were Cronkite (the bitch) and Artie.
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Black Ballsays:
September 22, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Outstanding Ronald Dale Barassi
https://youtu.be/XmC_dmHFAP8Now that is what is called a Motivation Coach……………….lol
Reminds me of my old Skool Daze in the early 1960s in Pomgolia.
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Getting bank to Cronkite. I can’t discount his comments because there were two people in 2020 who predicted Trump would lose due to cheating . They were Cronkite (the bitch) and Artie.
Excuse me. There was me and my dog as well as billions of others who predicted it. The Fix was in and anyone could see that.
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Eva Karene Bartlett
@EvaKBartlett
Man I met in a Donetsk market yesterday spoke about the upcoming referendum to join Russia, and about the psychological toll of Ukraine’s shelling.I believe the voting in these referenda begin tomorrow, 23 Sept.
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JCsays:
September 22, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Yea, Rotten. Harry Hindsight is right 100%. Can you prove your claim or we just have to accept it.As you are obviously a Doubting Thomas, I do not need to prove anything to a tosser like you.
And your claim of only 2 people in a World of nearly 8 Billion people………………LOL. That does not pass the Pub Test you tosser.
Go and play in the traffic where you belong.
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Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
September 22, 2022 at 5:09 pm
BHP Dividend hits the bank today!
$$$$$$ in the money bin.BHP today, Woodside tomorrow, Wesfarmers in two weeks, and the season finishes with South 32, on October 13th.
Wot’ Amateurs. My money laundering operations at Crown Casino, HSBC and others pays far more than piddly dividends.
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Sancho Panzersays:
September 22, 2022 at 5:09 pm
Rotten.
I could be mistaken, but I don’t recall you posting at OldCat around the 2020 election.Correct. I was on other Blogs and wiv’ other people. There is a bigger World out there don’t yer’ know. There is a lot more going on in the World than this Gold Fish Bowl. I also predicted that Trump would win and that Brexit would happen. I’m not very good at picking horses to win at the Races though…………………………………………lol
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And this from a Democrat in the Good Old Daze……………………
You won’t here that today though.
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As you are obviously a Doubting Thomas, I do not need to prove anything to a tosser like you.
Of course you don’t. You did say that even you dog was able to see the election would be cheated.
And your claim of only 2 people in a World of nearly 8 Billion people………………LOL. That does not pass the Pub Test you tosser.
Two people at the old Cat made those assertion. It wasn’t to suggest two people out of 8 billion, you whack job.
Go and play in the traffic where you belong.
Sure, but before I do can you link to anything showing you made the prediction well before the election. It would clarify a lot.
Thanks.
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The last surviving Khmer Rouge leader has his genocide conviction upheld:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-22/khmer-rouge-final-verdict-genocide-khieu-sampan/101465242Meanwhile the Greens, the ‘First Nations’ protest industry, their media organs and their following among third-rate academics promote Pol Pot economics without shame.
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When Did Illegal Immigration Become A Republican Issue?
From Martin Armstrong –
“Securing the border was previously a bipartisan issue. National security, before the age of 9/11, focused on keeping the US borders secure and free from foreign invasion. There is a record number of illegal aliens crossing the US-Mexico border daily under the current Biden Administration, which has no plans to stop this invasion. In fact, they seem to be encouraging it and reframing it as a race or humanity issue.
The video above is from former President Bill Clinton’s 1995 State of the Union speech. Preventing illegal immigrants from crossing into America was on the DNC’s radar back then. It was not considered a racist issue until recently. Clinton states that although America is a nation of immigrants, it is also a nation of laws that must be protected. Under the Biden regime, this speech would be considered extreme right-wing fascism. If I posted only the transcription of this speech, many would think these words came from Trump. For an array of reasons, Bill Clinton would not have lasted long in woke America.
There is no plan to fix the open border. DeSantis and Abbott have attempted to send immigrants to blue states where they support open borders without experiencing the consequences. DeSantis caused a mass meltdown at Martha’s Vineyard when he sent a plane of illegal immigrants there, as the voters claim to be so tolerant. Within hours, the people of Martha’s Vineyard had the National Guard ushering out the undesirables. New York, Chicago, and DC are among the many blue cities that turned away illegal immigrants despite voting favorably for open borders.
The immigration crisis amounts to at least a $20 billion annual loss. Studies show that taxpayers spend $9,232 annually to support open borders. This will have an effect on absolutely everyone, Democrat or Republican, and should not be considered a Republican issue.”
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You have misunderstood JC, JR.
Of course many people around the world suspected shenanigans were afoot in 2020.
But the people JC sited brought it up at The Cat – asserted it and defended it in discussions.
It would be too time consuming and laborious to scour the intertubes and count everyone who raised it, or even who might have mentioned in conversation.
You can take it from that circumstance that that was not what he was saying.
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Ed says: Lotta work for a Bomb Technician around Alice Springs, Top Ender?
Interestingly enough, they get called out fairly routinely, like this week. What looks like a WWII bomb has been found in Darwin harbour. Not unusual – the first raid alone released 150 bombs with a load of 82,050kg. It was followed by 207 more air missions from the Japanese over the war.
Plus on the Allied side there was ordnance carted up and down the Territory through the war. This included mortar rounds, small-arms by the many million, grenades etc etc.
Bomb Techs don’t spend all of their time waiting for a call. But they do undergo intensive training, and when they do have to do the work it is most exacting and quite dangerous. The NT is the place where a couple are needed on call, all of the time.
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Should have refreshed before I typed that.
JC does not need me to defend him, but would suggest to JR that his Dad jokes will be rather less mirthful if delivered by someone embroiled in stoushes.
FWIW I perceived that there was some pretty rum goings on in the lead up to 2020, but the scale of it I did not foresee. I thought it was just for individual seats, not the Presidency.
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Greens senator Lidia Thorpe is reportedly leading protesters at an anti-monarchy demonstration in Melbourne, painting her hands red to symbolise blood.
The First Nations senator appeared at the protest and joined in chants of “no pride in genocide,” according to footage from the Herald Sun.
“The Crown’s boot is on our neck and we’re sick of it,” Ms Thorpe told the rally, AAP reported.
Senator Lydia Thorpe took the oath of allegiance to the British Crown, and is paid her salary to sit in the Senate. Didn’t that sort of conduct used to cost you your head, on Tower Hill?
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