Open Thread – Tues 20 Sept 2022


The Tapestry Weavers, Diego Velazquez, c. 1655-1660

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 9:55 pm

It’s right in front of you. If you can’t see it. You are fast asleep.

Now you’re going all Scientology again.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Gasp!!

This is the second time I’ve caused you to choke.
You should take more care when eating, & not gobble on things that’re too big for you to swallow.

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 9:56 pm

Sancho has no clue either.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Custard: I do not disagree with the sentiments you’re quoting. I’ll wager 99% of the readers here agree.
I just don’t see the mechanism by which those sentiments can be consummated.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 9:59 pm

custardsays:

September 20, 2022 at 9:54 pm

The responses so far confirm my assertion.

No.
They confirm you hinted at some off the wall theory, which three people called on you to flesh out with facts.
Then you went with “look it up yourself”.
How very Googlery.

Digger
Digger
September 20, 2022 10:00 pm

Custard I believe Trump is very much back in the frame. Democrats are shit scared of him, hence the DOJ and FBI trying to get him, on orders of Biden.

On orders of Obama…

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 10:00 pm

I lost a lot of money on betting on the 2020 US presidential election. I have been trying to find out the truth of what actually happened ever since. Trump has caught them all.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I lost a lot of money on betting on the 2020 US presidential election.

I feel for you, coz Trump won.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 10:01 pm

custardsays:

September 20, 2022 at 9:56 pm

Sancho has no clue either.

Mainly because you refuse to elaborate how Trump might get his arse back into the Oval Office before the end of January 2023.
Four months away.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:01 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
September 20, 2022 at 7:52 pm
UK brewers are facing tenfold price increases for the CO2 they use to carbonate and package beers, the Financial Times reported on Friday, also citing supply disruptions that could threaten brewing ahead of the Christmas season.

Europe’s Economy And Living Standards Are Plummeting

Written by ORIENTAL REVIEW on 19/09/2022

The ill-considered sanctions against Russia have exposed the most acute problems of Europe which is rapidly losing its economic power. A tremendous amount of businesses are on the verge of bankruptcy. A flood of migrants from Africa, the Middle East and Ukraine requires more and more budget spending.

Funds are also being used to support the Kiev regime. As a result, Europe’s economies are deteriorating and living standards are plummeting.

Enterprises are on the verge of closing

In Britain 60% of enterprises are on the verge of closing due to higher electricity prices. This is reported by the analytical group Make UK, representing the interests of British industry. 13% of British factories have reduced working hours and 7% are temporarily closing down. Electricity bills have risen by more than 100% compared to last year.

In Germany, according to the Leibniz Institute for Economic Research, the number of firms and individuals went bankrupt in August alone rose 26% compared to the same period last year. The figure was significantly higher than German analysts had forecast. According to experts, during the autumn the number of bankruptcies will only increase. This is connected with the increase of the cost of production processes, in particular with the rise in prices for energy.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz acknowledged that many Germans have faced with rising prices for fuel and food. Most countries in Europe were in a similar situation. But the authorities are sacrificing the quality of people’s lives in order to continue to exert pressure on Russia.

The crisis is just ahead

At the same time, many experts believe the stopping of Nord Stream will cause Europe’s worst energy crisis in decades.

– “Europe reaps what it sows”
– Poverty is coming
– Migrants are ruinous to the budget

Migrant influx into European countries over the past two decades has been less than 1 million people a year. But already last year, 1.3 million people entered the countries, and this year, there were already 1.8 million people. We must take into account the fact that some immigrants enter Europe illegally and are not registered. They are primarily residents of Somalia, Nigeria, Gambia, Iran, Pakistan, Mali, Afghanistan, Eritrea and Syria.

Moreover, more than 10 million people left Ukraine since the end of February. Of these, at least 6 million people remain in European countries, while 3.7 million have already received refugee status. The average cost per such migrant is 7,000 euros per year. Even without Ukrainians, Germany alone spends 25 to 55 billion euros annually on refugee aid.

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 10:07 pm

If Cats would like to talk to me. You know my real identity.

Call me now. I’m available until the next top of the hour.

[Too easy to abuse]

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:08 pm

“I Do Not Think I Know”: Scott Morrison’s Submarine Deception

Written by Binoy KAMPMARK on 20/09/2022

When it was revealed that former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison had not only shown contempt for his own government in secretly appointing himself, via the Governor-General’s approval, to five portfolios, the depths of deception seemed to be boundless. His tenure had already been marked by a spectacular, habitual tendency to conceal matters. What else would come out?

The latest revelation in the Morrison Mendacity Roadshow came in a leaked document authored by a former Department of Defence deputy secretary, Kim Gillis, a key figure in submarine contract negotiations with the French Naval Group. The contract to build twelve French-made diesel-powered Attack class submarines was spectacularly scuppered by the Morrison government with the announcement last September of the AUKUS security pact. A key provision of that agreement between Canberra, Washington and London was that Australia would be acquiring nuclear-propulsion technology for submarines sourced from either the United Kingdom or the United States.

France was kept in the dark of both the AUKUS negotiations and the fact that their treasured, lucrative submarine contract would cease to exist after September. It ruined, for a time, the relationship between Australia and France, and led President Emmanuel Macron to publicly accuse Morrison of lying. “I don’t think,” he memorably responded to a journalist’s question when asked about the conduct of Australia’s prime minister, “I know.”

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 10:09 pm

Silence so far…

cohenite
September 20, 2022 10:11 pm

I don’t know about Trump getting back in in 2023 when the mid terms are stuffed. Unless Trump has the armed forces on his side I don’t know how he’s going to do it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:12 pm

Brutal: Joe Biden Greeted by ‘FJB’ Chants at Queen’s Funeral

As foreign dignitaries gathered for Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, Joe Biden rolled in late and was also greeted by “FJB” chants by British spectators (via The Guardian):

FJB chants as far as GB… dude is literally getting heckled attending the funeral of a monarchy Americans won our independence from. ?????

Total embarrassment!!

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 10:13 pm

I dare someone to ring me.

I’m a nice person

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 10:14 pm

Not sure if Sportsbet or Bet365 are going to pay out on 2020 US presidential election reversals.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:16 pm

SUNDAY READING

Prime Minister Trudeau And Q Spirit

Written by Fr. Lawrence FARLEY on 18/09/2022

Note: My thanks to the reader who passed along to me the eye-opening link to Q Spirit.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

As foreign dignitaries gathered for Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, Joe Biden rolled in late and was also greeted by “FJB” chants by British spectators

Heh heh heh x infinity.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:19 pm

Whistleblower: FBI is Ignoring Child Sex Abuse Cases in Favor of Political Witch Hunts

Katie Pavlich

Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan is sounding the alarm after a whistleblower explained a shift in the FBI’s priorities.

In a letter sent to FBI Director Christopher Wray Monday, Jordan is demanding answers about why the Bureau is allegedly distributing resources away from child sex abuse cases in favor of political witch-hunts.

“The whistleblower disclosed that the FBI is sacrificing its other important federal law-enforcement duties to pursue January 6 investigations. The whistleblower recalled, for example, being ‘told that child sexual abuse material investigations were no longer an FBI priority and should be referred to local law enforcement agencies,’” the letter states. “Such a posture is not only a derelictions of the FBI’s mission to investigate violations of federal laws, but is a grave disservice to the victims of child sexual abuse and other crimes that do not advance the FBI leadership’s political agenda.”

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 10:20 pm

Does anyone think that the leader of the free world would be in the 14th row at the Queens funeral?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The person who was in the 14th row is not the leader of the free world.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 10:24 pm

Why stop at 50? Why not a few thousand?

Because we don’t have reliable and accurate data for a few thousand years. Isn’t that obvious or you’re now swinging blind with zero appreciation of reality? And why did Fester therefore stop at 25 years when you’re asking me why not go a couple of thousand years? Fester didn’t have to but needed to because he was truncating a chart to cherry pick.

Answer, you’re just bloviating because you’ve got 0.0000 [recurring to infinity] scientific or statistical grounds for dogmatically asserting that 25 years isn’t enough for a trend. It’s pure argument by assertion with 0.0000 factual or logical basis.

I’ll ignore your your sad attempt at abuse and just go with the facts. I have more experience dealing with charts and stuff like this than you have had hot dinners and quite frankly I reckon you’re just going around in circles like a chook with it’s head chopped off. You’re not winning the argument by making silly assertions.

Your most glaring logical error is your fanatical insistence that things can’t change and therefore something that was happening in the past must still be happening.

Of course they can change, you delusional nitwit, But they hadn’t changed to the point of the proceeding 25 years and when things change then we’ll take a look. Perhaps it’s something new to you to appreciate, but we have to wait another 25 years for the next 25 years unless you have a time machine and we can arrive there sooner. There’s zero logical error on my part and your histrionics aren’t going to change a thing. Truncating a chart for the purpose of cherry picking is well, cherry picking.

That’s why you ignore the obvious temperature cycle in the 20th century which fits in with exactly what BoN was saying, and is strong evidence for 25 years (or less) being plenty to establish a trend in climate.

Yes, I’m ignoring everything other than the charts that Fester presented and truncated, because that is the entire topic of the discussion so stop going all 2oth century on me as that’s irrelevant. I’m not interested in your knowledge of 20th C climate as you’re not even able to understand the importance of a 50 years chart.

You might as well say that the average temperature of winter needs to be measured over a 12 month period.

And why would I do that?

I’m not a fan of argument from authority but if vast numbers of climate scientists and authorities are saying 15, 17 or 30 years is enough, then to dogmatically denounce BoN’s point without showing why those estimates are wrong is just exhibiting the factual and logical poverty of your assertion.

It actually demonstrates how sad and stretchy your points are. If you stretch a y further you’re going to break.

PS, what’s the “AGW span”? Are you signed on to the dogma that human produced greenhouse gasses have caused all the warming since the Little Ice Age? If not, why are you asserting that a climate trend needs to be measured over that span? Wouldn’t that be a circular justification of the dogma rather than a proper investigation of it? Are you claiming that the climate influences must be identical over the whole of the “AGW span”? What’s your scientific basis for that? Somehow it hasn’t made it into your comments.

Interesting, one paragraph ago you suggested I should listen to climate scientists and now you’re suggesting I’m listening to dogma from .. well climate scientists about spans etc? Zero consistency from one para to another.

Of course you can’t because every single thing you’ve said has been refuted and you’ve got nothing left but bluster.

People can make up their own mind about who’s the blusterer and it isn’t me.

But the denial of flatlining once again reveals your reasoning in a circle,

I never denied that it flatlined. That’s just you being delusional. It did flatline and he used the flat-line period of 25 years conveniently by truncating the 50 year chart for no reason. He’s no better than Greta Thumberg and you’re acting like her defense lawyer.
I honestly thought that as an experienced lawyer you’d put up better arguments and you wouldn’t jump into defending Fester’s stupid argument unless you were paid to do it. Frankly, I’d be a little embarrassed if I were you.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:25 pm

Some interesting reads – https://orientalreview.org/about/

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:27 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:30 pm

White House says COVID-19 policy unchanged despite what President Biden said on ’60 Minutes’

As Twitchy reported, President Joe Biden was interviewed by Scott Pelley for Sunday night’s edition of “60 Minutes,” and he said that U.S. men and women would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion. After the interview, however, the White House said that its Taiwan policy had not changed. Biden also declared that the COVID-19 pandemic “is over,” although that would scuttle his loophole allowing student loan cancellation because of the emergency imposed by the pandemic.

As with the Taiwan comments, the White House is walking back the “pandemic is over” talk, saying that the White House’s policy remains unchanged and emergency orders are still in effect.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 10:31 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
September 20, 2022 at 9:52 pm

JC is correct,

Custard, you’re right. Trump is going to get back in because Drills reckons I’m correct. And he’s never been right about anything.

custard says:
September 20, 2022 at 10:00 pm

I lost a lot of money on betting on the 2020 US presidential election. I have been trying to find out the truth of what actually happened ever since. Trump has caught them all.

Dude, I really feel for you because I believe they cheated. Perhaps you’re so upset that you’re in a bit of cloud about this. Is there anyone you can talk to about it, because I think you should.

And custard, get your phone number scrubbed as you don’t want the wrong person to get a hold of it. Just take it easy.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:34 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Record excess deaths in Europe

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JC a good bloke.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:34 pm

‘Here we go again’! Politico’s report about what ‘we may not know’ on Election Day sure sounds familiar

There are only 50 short days between now and the midterm election and Politico has been spotted helping do a bit of preparation for the occasion:

They’re trying to prepare us this time. From the Politico article:

Many of the same factors in the same battleground states are at play in 2022, starting with races that could have very slim margins. Add in the continued popularity of mail voting and state laws in Pennsylvania and elsewhere that can delay processing of those ballots, and the chance of another waiting game is distinct — possibly with control of the Senate up in the air.

And the possibility of broken water pipes! Don’t forget about the possibility of broken water pipes.

– Bring on ALL the facepalms!

Remember the good old days when we knew who won midterm elections before the next day (or week, or month, or…)?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JC is honourable & pays his bills.

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2022 10:37 pm

Having a meal at an Italian restaurant in East Melbourne and who walks in …. Our favourite former prime minister …

… suddenly and without seeming provocation, the kitchen staff dropped their exchequer trousers.

their Ninja uniforms on display it was now obvious what was about to go down …

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:37 pm

And then this

Experts alarmed by COVID vaccination rates among America’s youngest kids

They know very well how harmful it is, particularly to children, and continue to push it nonetheless. What do you call that level of depravity?

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:40 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:45 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Not convinced Custard gave his phone number.
Anyone else phone “Custard” & get a young lady with a husky, sultry voice, from a business named “Deidre’s Darlings”?

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2022 10:49 pm

I can’t believe people can talk “individual freedoms” out of one corner of their mouth

… or “standards”

you duplicitous prick

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 10:53 pm

Gonzalo Lira has been banned by Twitter and was suspended for a week on YouTube, not for anything he said about Ukraine and Russia but for interviewing Dr. Peter McCullough about Covid treatments. The livestream was taken down almost immediately. He is now on Rumble and will upload it there – Roundtable No. 20.

This is his first clip on YouTube after his suspension and he explains in the first 10 minutes or so exactly how the censorship works. Effectively, a government funded group lodges masses of complaints and insists that items they dislike be removed. Is there a better description of fascism than government and corporations working together to suppress individual rights?

Notes On Being Unpersoned (I’m On The Myrotvorets Hit List)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 10:54 pm

Is DeSantis being given the Trump treatment?

Just yesterday, Texas sheriff Javier Salazar announced that he is investigating the legality of Gov. Ron DeSantis’s flying of illegal migrants to Martha’s Vineyard.

Salazar is a Democrat but, like all Democrats, he insists that his probe has nothing to do with his political affiliation.

Salazar said the following:

“Somebody saw fit to come from another state, hunt them down, prey upon them, and then take advantage of their desperate situation just for the sake of political theater, just for the sake of making a statement”.

“I believe people need to be held accountable for it to the extent possible.”

Salazar could not cite specific federal, state, or local laws that may have been broken by relocating the migrants, yet he says that his office will be investigating what he called an “abuse of human rights.”

Salazar isn’t the only one going after DeSantis.

If Trump decides not to run in 2024, the Democrats know that DeSantis is their primary challenger.

These investigations must therefore be seen as Democrats sharpening their knives to go after DeSantis.

They also hope they could hurt DeSantis’s reelection bid in Florida.

They probably hope it deters DeSantis and the other GOP governors from dispatching more migrants to Martha’s Vineyard.

The tone and content of the probe demands and the investigations seem reminiscent of hoaxes against Trump.

The goal is most likely to take DeSantis out.

DeSantis may have huge popular support and may even win the presidency in 2024, but the potential verdict of the public seldom deters the Democrats.

This should end the argument that some conservatives make that Trump has too much baggage owing to the multiple allegations and investigations and that a clean candidate would serve the GOP better.

Make no mistake, any GOP candidate, even if it is their current useful idiots such as Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger will be demonized and any MAGA GOP candidate will be gratuitously probed in addition to being demonized.

That’s how they roll.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 10:54 pm

Caught a bit of a bloke called Dr Jay Bhattacharya on 3AW this morning.
He talked so much sense* I nearly piloted the Sluggy Beemer into the scrub.
Covid effort should have focussed on the aged and infirm.
Vaccinate that group and anyone else who volunteers.
Lockdowns cause more health problems, directly with covid, and via delayed diagnosis of other problems.
Etcetera.

* He was allowed to make his case because Tony Jones was standing in for Nanny Neil.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 20, 2022 10:55 pm

JCsays:
September 20, 2022 at 10:24 pm

Because we don’t have reliable and accurate data for a few thousand years. Isn’t that obvious or you’re now swinging blind with zero appreciation of reality? And why did Fester therefore stop at 25 years when you’re asking me why not go a couple of thousand years? Fester didn’t have to but needed to because he was truncating a chart to cherry pick.

Poor old logic fail.
He said that there’d been flatlining for 25 years because in his view that’s sufficient to establish a trend, and once again you’ve offered 0.00000 [recurring to infinity] evidnce that he’s wrong.

I’ll ignore your your sad attempt at abuse and just go with the facts. I have more experience dealing with charts and stuff like this than you have had hot dinners and quite frankly I reckon you’re just going around in circles like a chook with it’s head chopped off. You’re not winning the argument by making silly assertions.

Poor old mental defective. Yes, he’s seen a lot of charts. But he’s forgotten the most basic aphorism in his own game “past performance is no guarantee of future performance”. It’s desperately sad.

Of course they can change, you delusional nitwit, But they hadn’t changed to the point of the proceeding 25 years and when things change then we’ll take a look. Perhaps it’s something new to you to appreciate, but we have to wait another 25 years for the next 25 years unless you have a time machine and we can arrive there sooner. There’s zero logical error on my part and your histrionics aren’t going to change a thing. Truncating a chart for the purpose of cherry picking is well, cherry picking.

Let’s take this very slowly.
Question 1 – do you believe that a climate trend can come to an end and be superseded by a different climate trend?
Question 2
If your answer to question 1 was “no”, please report tomorrow morning to the Sheltered Workshop for Mental Defectives.
If your answer was “yes”, please consider the following scenario:
A climate trend has lasted 100 years and is superseded by another trend which may well last another 100 years. How long into the second 100 years do we have to wait before we’re allowed to ask serious questions (like BoN did) of those who insist that the first trend is continuing?
Question 3
If your answer to question 2 was “more than 25 years”, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for that answer?

Yes, I’m ignoring everything other than the charts that Fester presented and truncated, because that is the entire topic of the discussion so stop going all 2oth century on me as that’s irrelevant. I’m not interested in your knowledge of 20th C climate as you’re not even able to understand the importance of a 50 years chart.

The importance of a “50 year chart” depends entirely on its content. Do you believe that a 50 year chart can never be used to demonstrate a change occurring? If not, why not?

[You might as well say that the average temperature of winter needs to be measured over a 12 month period.]

And why would I do that?

You wouldn’t unless you were an imbecile. But it makes as much sense as insisting that a trend must continue for 50 years without having a skerrick of fact or logic to support that assertion.

It actually demonstrates how sad and stretchy your points are. If you stretch a y further you’re going to break.

Poor old logic fail. It’s one thing to argue from authority. It’s another to do what you’re doing and dogmatically insist that the authorities must be wrong without being able to muster a single fact or logical point to support that.

Interesting, one paragraph ago you suggested I should listen to climate scientists and now you’re suggesting I’m listening to dogma from .. well climate scientists about spans etc? Zero consistency from one para to another.

Poor old logic fail. All I was asking you to do was explain your dogmatic obsession with the “AGW span”, whatever that is, and explain why you insist that climate trends MUST continue consistently throughout it.
If you’re not a Greta Thunberg disciple, please do explain the basis for your view about consistency of climate trends throughout the “AGW span”.

People can make up their own mind about who’s the blusterer and it isn’t me.

I’m content with that. But it would be useful for you to answer the three questions above.

I never denied that it flatlined. That’s just you being delusional. It did flatline and he used the flat-line period of 25 years conveniently by truncating the 50 year chart for no reason. He’s no better than Greta Thumberg and you’re acting like her defense lawyer.
I honestly thought that as an experienced lawyer you’d put up better arguments and you wouldn’t jump into defending Fester’s stupid argument unless you were paid to do it. Frankly, I’d be a little embarrassed if I were you.

He didn’t “truncate” the chart. His assertion is that the trend switched from downward to flatlining. If you do accept that there’s been flatlining for 25 years, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for insisting that there’s been no change to the trend?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 10:56 pm

you duplicitous prick

I’ll take that as a comment.
Woof!
And a jolly good evening to you, too.
Mwah!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 10:58 pm

Custard.
Have you got any mysterious calls?
With heavy breathing?
In Mandarin?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 10:58 pm

Farter time, after having re-read Lode’s most excellent post at 7.09.

You made it worse you spittle flecking self-frottering moron. Get it? You made the anti-vaccine position disreputable and more difficult.

Hahahaha.

Accurate, too.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 11:00 pm

to Anti-terror operation (ATO)

I can’t roll my eyes anymore.

Yeah it’s a real war now because Russia is losing.

Yes, let’s hold a referendum in a war zone, even places we don’t physically control, and call the enemy terrorists when the election doesn’t run smoothly.

No one will ever see through that.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 20, 2022 11:02 pm

Incidentally, JC didn’t respond to my question about why he assumed that the decline for 25 years shown in BoN’s chart was “steep”.
I asked him whether he’d made the howler of just looking at the shape of the line without considering scale, and if not, on what basis did he regard the decline as ‘steep”.
He didn’t respond.
I think we all know why.
Desperately sad.
I’m mindful of the admonition in Paul’s letter to Titus, but I suspect that the currawongs etc. in Newcastle haven’t been getting fed any popcorn over the course of today.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 11:02 pm

I lost a lot of money on betting on the 2020 US presidential election. I have been trying to find out the truth of what actually happened ever since. Trump has caught them all.

Custard, there isn’t the slightest doubt that the election was stolen. Whether they admit it or not, everyone knows it. But, and this is the real question, who is going to do anything about it? As I’ve said before, there are crimes galore right out in the open and the FBI and CIA and other government bodies are simply sweeping it under the carpet and going after middle America full bore. As has been shown with Trump, they will happily manufacture the crime to suit their purpose. The tourists from January 6 are still in gaol without trial. How is that legal?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 11:05 pm

You made it worse you spittle flecking self-frottering moron. Get it? You made the anti-vaccine position disreputable and more difficult.

Correct.
Some here (KD and me among them) warned of hitching your conveyance to any looney-tunes moonbeam who wandered past.
Or allowing fringe dwellers of the anti all vax movement (or Sovereign Citizens) to hijack a reasonable case about mandates or these particular vaxes.
St Ruth hasn’t only allowed them in as partners of convenience to swell the numbers.
He is now one of them.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 11:06 pm

Shades of Mengele

Paul Dowling

Is a Doctors’ Trial needed in America?

cohenite
September 20, 2022 11:06 pm

Mid-terms shaping up well for R.

The problem is no poll factors in demorat cheating which will be monumental in the mid terms. If the demorats even allow the mid terms to proceed it will be because they have put in place cheating to get both houses. After that within 6 months Trump and De Santis will be sharing a cell.

custard
custard
September 20, 2022 11:07 pm

I’ve had a call from a very nice person. It’s just past the top of the hour.

I might be back tomorrow or not as the case may be ….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

CNN’s Don Lemmon, reporting from London, makes the accession of King Chilla into a call for slavery reparations (I’m not making this up) – gets schooled bigtime by his interviewee.

Worth watching just to see Lemmon’s face as he gets comprehensively pwned.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve had a call from a very nice person.

Probably got texts from all sorts of crazies too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 11:10 pm

New Hampshire: 44/48

That would be one which would worry the ‘rats.
Biden won it in 2020 by 53/46.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 11:14 pm

The Justice Department Was Dangerous Before Trump. It’s Out of Control Now

The current Trump investigation is just the latest chapter of a long-brewing civil liberties nightmare.

Matt Taibbi

Extremely long but well covered History up to present today

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 11:19 pm

Just re-read Mother Lode’s demolition of the trouserless troubadour at 7:09.
That is what Basil Fawlty refers to as a “damn good thrashing”.
Highly recommended reading.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 11:23 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 11:23 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 11:24 pm
Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 11:25 pm

If Cats would like to talk to me. You know my real identity.

Call me now. I’m available until the next top of the hour.

Dude!

Just. Chill. The. Eff. Out.

Get the number scrubbed off here!

If we’re doing a call in show, I want to hear some Oingo Boingo or Timbuk 3.

Even some Red Rider or Foghat would do nicely.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2022 11:26 pm
Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 11:27 pm

No, if it goes ATO it will be on the grounds of the shelling of Donetsk City and the like and/or the shelling of the nuclear power plant.

So he’s a cry bully.

Xi is going to walk all over him from now on.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 11:37 pm

“Hallelujah” – The Penny finally drops – B’Obvious

Lockdown-loving premier Mark McGowan unleashes on ‘laptops in the kitchen culture’ in extraordinary rant demanding workers return to the office – but does he have a point?

. Mark McGowan says working from home is ‘not good for community or society’
. He said he would prefer for people to stop working from home as less Covid risk
. WA premier argues working from home does not generate collaborative culture

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 11:40 pm

Poor old logic fail.
He said that there’d been flatlining for 25 years because in his view that’s sufficient to establish a trend, and once again you’ve offered 0.00000 [recurring to infinity] evidnce that he’s wrong.

You really don’t seem to be able to handle losing an argument well do you? He had a chart that went back 50 years, you ridiculous choker. That entire chart showed there had been a subsequent fall, which conveniently fell into Uncle Fester’s 25 year truncation. He used that to cherry pick, ignoring the previous 25 years. There’s logic fail on your part, because your stupid point was demolished by an actual argument.

Poor old mental defective. Yes, he’s seen a lot of charts. But he’s forgotten the most basic aphorism in his own game “past performance is no guarantee of future performance”. It’s desperately sad.

And why I or anyone else need to appreciate that when it has absolutely zero relevance to this discussion? What the fuck does it even mean in terms of what we’re discussing. Nothing! Why? Because, in this case, past performance is relevant to current performance, you dunderhead. It’s not future unknown performance, it’s past to the present. In other words, the 25 Fester years are also the past and not the future too, you one man clownshow.

Let’s take this very slowly.
Question 1 – do you believe that a climate trend can come to an end and be superseded by a different climate trend?
Question 2
If your answer to question 1 was “no”, please report tomorrow morning to the Sheltered Workshop for Mental Defectives.
If your answer was “yes”, please consider the following scenario:
A climate trend has lasted 100 years and is superseded by another trend which may well last another 100 years. How long into the second 100 years do we have to wait before we’re allowed to ask serious questions (like BoN did) of those who insist that the first trend is continuing?
Question 3
If your answer to question 2 was “more than 25 years”, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for that answer?

You’re malfunctioning I believe. You have completely misrepresented my comments and I think you’re too drunk to even understand your own.

The importance of a “50 year chart” depends entirely on its content.

No shit, you climatic genius.

Do you believe that a 50 year chart can never be used to demonstrate a change occurring?

Let me ask you a question . You think that after reams of your verbose stupidity I haven’t argued there was a change in the 50 year chart. In fact, because there was, Fester truncated the former 25 years?

But it makes as much sense as insisting that a trend must continue for 50 years without having a skerrick of fact or logic to support that assertion.

You know after all the verbosity I’ve seen you’ve thrown at Fatboy (that I haven’t read) I’m beginning to think he may actually be on the winning side against you after dealing with your nosnense here. Intellectually you’re all over the place.
I’ve never said that a trend must continue for 50 years. I criticized the Nobel prize winner because he actually didn’t mention the change in trend, you clown. I did. FMD, you really aren’t that bright are you.

Poor old logic fail. It’s one thing to argue from authority. It’s another to do what you’re doing and dogmatically insist that the authorities must be wrong without being able to muster a single fact or logical point to support that.

Who are these authorities ? You and the Fester? Both of you are no more authoritative than a teenage girl.

Poor old logic fail. All I was asking you to do was explain your dogmatic obsession with the “AGW span”, whatever that is, and explain why you insist that climate trends MUST continue consistently throughout it.
If you’re not a Greta Thunberg disciple, please do explain the basis for your view about consistency of climate trends throughout the “AGW span”.

Span is code for AGW, which I explained earlier and you’ve obviously forgotten. The time span that AGW is supposed to have cranked up was between the advent of the industrial revolution to the present.

I’m content with that. But it would be useful for you to answer the three questions above.

Bullshit you are.

He didn’t “truncate” the chart. His assertion is that the trend switched from downward to flatlining. If you do accept that there’s been flatlining for 25 years, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for insisting that there’s been no change to the trend?

Okay, Let me repeat this one last time and then no more because I really don’t think you’re the smartest tool in the shed. He truncated a chart because the previous 25 years was inconvenient for him to discuss especially because the proceeding 25 year trended down.

There’s no more to this discussion.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2022 11:45 pm

I’ll have a side of fries and wokeness with that burger

With recent “yuge” changes in commercials, Robin Itzler reached out to a leading marketing company and asked if she could sit in on a commercial planning meeting with several of advertising’s best and brightest participating. She taped the meeting to share with American Thinker readers. (This is satire.)

“Good morning. We’re here to create the special 90-second commercial that will run during the October World Series. Now, remember, our burgers are the best tasting thanks to our unique secret family sauce. Plus, we have a 99% satisfaction customer rating. Okay, any ideas for the commercial?”

“Let’s have the restaurant filled with happy customers eating their delicious burgers.”

“Sounds good.”

“An average restaurant can seat 45 people so let’s make sure there are at least 20 Black customers.”

“But Blacks are just above 13% of the population.”

“Doesn’t matter. We don’t want Black Lives Matter protesting.”

“What about focusing on the mouth-watering hamburgers?”

“I think at least 10 people should be Asian.”

“No, they should be Hispanic.”

“I need at least one transgender. Will someone trade me a Black, Asian, or Hispanic for a trans?”

“Will anyone even know this commercial is about our burgers?”

“This could be an award-winning commercial.”

“Just make sure you run the script by our Diversity, Inclusion, Equity & Safe Spaces Department.”

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 20, 2022 11:45 pm

Dot, if you think the Russians are losing in Ukraine, well…there’s not much more to say. Go and sit with m0nty.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 21, 2022 12:10 am

I said: I’m content with that. But it would be useful for you to answer the three questions above.

JC said: Bullshit you are.

English translation: JC can’t answer the questions because he knows he’d beclown himself further.

From a previous comment JC said: I’m happy to tell you. As we really don’t have a great deal of seriously accurate and comprehensive data then most certainly every year counts especially if the beginning of AGW time is considered to correlate with the Industrial Revolution. So yea, 25 years more does count and it really counts when you have 50 years of info with snowfall declining in the next 25 years without any recovery.

I said: I presume you mean “previous” not “next”.

now JC says: That entire chart showed there had been a subsequent fall,

There’s some serious dissembling going on.

In other words, the 25 Fester years are also the past and not the future too, you one man clownshow.

Poor old mental defective. The first 25 years of the chart doesn’t t ell us that there isn’t a relevant change in the nest 25 years. Poor old JC can’t comprehend that when the “future’ change transpires it proves the aphorism that “past” i.e. the first 25 years doesn’t tell us that a change won’t happen in the “future” i.e. the nest 25 years.

Let me ask you a question . You think that after reams of your verbose stupidity I haven’t argued there was a change in the 50 year chart.

YEEEES! that’s the whole point. The argument is whether the change is significant or not. And you’re still mired in the excrement of your own obsession that there can’t be a change that’s indicative of a change in the trend. You’ve totally failed to deal with the real issue.

Who are these authorities ? You and the Fester? Both of you are no more authoritative than a teenage girl.

Poor old transparent dissembler. Criticises me for referring to climate scientists and authorities and when I trounce him on that he pretends I was talking about me and BoN.

I’ve never said that a trend must continue for 50 years. I criticized the Nobel prize winner because he actually didn’t mention the change in trend, you clown.

So if you admit that there’s been a change in trend why are you denying that the change could prove BoN’s point about the disconnect between the trend and the alarmists’ theories?

Span is code for AGW, which I explained earlier and you’ve obviously forgotten. The time span that AGW is supposed to have cranked up was between the advent of the industrial revolution to the present.

Yes, exactly. And BoN is denying that there’s an inherent connection between the two things. Are you insisting that there is? Are you insisting that since Watts’ steam engine the fitful and inconsistent temperature increases have been caused by post-industrial revolution human activity? If not, what relevance does your comment have?

He truncated a chart because the previous 25 years was inconvenient for him to discuss especially because the proceeding 25 year trended down.

Poor old logic fail, again denying what he’s previously claimed to have admitted. There was a change during the 50 years and the whole discussion is about the significance of that change. Poor old abject failure.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2022 12:17 am

Test. As mysteriously two attempts at posting did not work earlier in the evening.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

mysteriously two attempts at posting did not work earlier in the evening

referencing Cthulhu in one’s post will have that effect.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 12:24 am

Tim

You’re one weird fuck, dude. I thought you are weird writing pages and pages of bilge to Fatboy. Your noble but stupid defence of Uncle Fester is a laughable clownshow.
I’ll deal with the latest drivel tomorrow.

Arky
September 21, 2022 12:24 am

dover0beach says:
September 21, 2022 at 12:01 am
I’ll wait and see, but if mobilisation of some sort occurs

..
I think it’s going to be mostly all over before Russia can mobilise shit.

custard
custard
September 21, 2022 12:24 am

I’ve had another call from a very nice person.

We’ve exchanged many thoughts.

I’m going to bed.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 21, 2022 12:27 am

[This is me as the waiter and JC as Mr Creosote]

Come on JC, just three itty bitty teensy weensy little questions.

Let’s take this very slowly.
Question 1 – do you believe that a climate trend can come to an end and be superseded by a different climate trend?
Question 2

If your answer to question 1 was “no”, please report tomorrow morning to the Sheltered Workshop for Mental Defectives.
If your answer was “yes”, please consider the following scenario:
A climate trend has lasted 100 years and is superseded by another trend which may well last another 100 years. How long into the second 100 years do we have to wait before we’re allowed to ask serious questions (like BoN did) of those who insist that the first trend is continuing?
Question 3
If your answer to question 2 was “more than 25 years”, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for that answer?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You’re one weird fuck

English translation: “I just got my arse handed to me”

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 12:37 am

Russian intel is making harassing calls.

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 12:45 am

What a mess today, trying to turn a German designed POC into something workable…..

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 1:02 am

Europe’s Economy And Living Standards Are Plummeting

If you’re really fucking stupid, sooner or later shit like this will happen.

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 1:09 am

Having a meal at an Italian restaurant in East Melbourne and who walks in …. Our favourite former prime minister …

How badly did you glass him?

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
September 21, 2022 1:25 am

Timothy Neilson says:
September 21, 2022 at 12:27 am

Timothy

You have to remember that Just Crap is basically a used car salesman that has to keep talking fast so you don’t notice the puddle of oil under the engine bay.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
September 21, 2022 1:30 am

Has JC Quixote and his sidekick Sancho got over their tics?

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 1:30 am

I chose not to get jabbed for various reasons and as I was fully retired and fairly independent at the time (I still am), the mandates didn’t work on me.

Mandates didn’t work on me either until I was stood down without pay and then terminated.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 1:44 am

NFA

Go change Faulty’s adult diaper and don’t forget to wash up after.

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 1:54 am

Andrews knows there are limits to what he can inflict upon the masses without inviting serious consequences for himself and his party politically.

He would seem to be edging steadily towards Hello Kitty burned into his forehead with a branding iron, 25 doses of Pfizer and a Colombian Necktie.

rickw
rickw
September 21, 2022 2:01 am

“”I’ve been a republican all my life and voted Yes in the 1999 referendum. I am still a theoretical republican but now find myself in that paradoxical category: republicans for a constitutional monarchy. I would vote No to any republican referendum now. It’s inconceivable, in this time of peak woke madness, that any change to the Constitution could produce something as stable and good as we have now. My monarchism is entirely pragmatic.“”

Sheridan is such a Mong, WTF did he think the trajectory of this shit was?

calli
calli
September 21, 2022 2:49 am

There’s another wedding tonight, this time in the church at Bled. The reception will be up at the castle.

The church bells are sounding joyfully.

What a beautiful place to tie the knot.

Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:08 am

Being a Sydney theatregoer, David Rowe barracks for the South Melbourne Bloods (a.k.a. the Bondi Surfies) and their latest marketing tool, Buddy Franklin.

Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2022 4:19 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
September 21, 2022 4:29 am

Hopefully not interrupting.
Biden’s call to arms bearing fruit.
“I have a job, a life and a house and things I don’t want to see go by the wayside — family that are very important to me,” Brandt told the judge.
https://www.wctrib.com/news/north-dakota/police-driver-admitted-to-intentionally-killing-teen-at-north-dakota-street-dance-after-political-dispute

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 4:37 am
rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 4:41 am
NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
September 21, 2022 4:43 am

JC says:
September 21, 2022 at 1:44 am

NFA

Go change Faulty’s adult diaper and don’t forget to wash up after.

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I have always admired your pig ignorance, Just Crap.

I see your tic is still active.

Hopefully you are better soon.

calli
calli
September 21, 2022 4:48 am

Coastal erosion is suddenly a new thing. Never happened before. Nup. No way.

Amusing flipping around the “news” services here. A sample:

– activist shrieking about an Indian summer and fears of enwarmening

– next activist hand wringing over enfreezening because no gas for heating

Guys, hope like crazy that the earth is actually getting warmer*. Otherwise many…many people in Europe will die of cold this winter.

* I doubt it, and son do the Croats and Slovenes – the size of the domestic woodpiles in preparation for Winter have to be seen to be believed. Bugger particulates and CO2.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 21, 2022 4:49 am
Johnny Rotten
September 21, 2022 4:56 am

Thanks Tom. The Cartoons with the Queen are quite lovely. Are we there yet?…………LOL

calli
calli
September 21, 2022 4:56 am

They worry and obsess about “climate change” and CO2 here, yet have massive woodpiles ready to go up the chimney. Because reality.

And stupid, gullible Aussies say, “yes…yes – we will be good citizens of Gaia and tug the forelock and do as you tell us and ruin ourselves.”

Aussies make concrete look smart.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
September 21, 2022 5:08 am

feelthebern says:
September 21, 2022 at 4:49 am

Snowden on the CIA.

At least all those protest songs from the ’60s and ’70s now make sense to Conservatives… lol

Johnny Rotten
September 21, 2022 5:15 am

callisays:
September 21, 2022 at 4:56 am
They worry and obsess about “climate change” and CO2 here, yet have massive woodpiles ready to go up the chimney. Because reality.

And stupid, gullible Aussies say, “yes…yes – we will be good citizens of Gaia and tug the forelock and do as you tell us and ruin ourselves.”

Aussies make concrete look smart.

The Clever Country? Welcome to Country…………………..lol

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 21, 2022 5:22 am

“Billionaire George Soros is that rare megalomaniac who not only believes he’s a god but revels in behaving like one. “It’s a sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out,” he once boasted to The Independent.

This god complex, combined with his downright amorality and bizarre ideas about society, makes the 92-year-old extremely dangerous to democracies, especially America. The warning comes loud and clear in Matt Palumbo’s recent book, The Man Behind the Curtain: Inside the Secret Network of George Soros, which documents Soros’s decades of financial dealings, political operations, and nefarious networks.”

Janet Levy at American Thinker

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 21, 2022 5:25 am

Italians are voting right-of-centre instead of left, so the MSM are tagging them as “far right” and demonising them just as they have with respect to Hungary’s Victor Orban and Brazil’s Bolsonaro.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 21, 2022 5:32 am

Narrative engines & surrogates are warming up.
From the Federalist universe on twitter, one of the planes that dropped off the 50 punters on Marthas Vineyard has been chartered & flight plan logged to fly to Delaware this week.
The destination is a shortish drive to Biden’s house (not sure which house, he has a few).
Time will tell if this is a repeat or a head fake.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 21, 2022 5:33 am

As the Federalist points out, imagine if the journo’s spending time tracking planes now did the same with the flights for the past two years.

Dot
Dot
September 21, 2022 5:33 am

The contract to build twelve French-made diesel-powered Attack class submarines was spectacularly scuppered by the Morrison government with the announcement last September of the AUKUS security pact. A key provision of that agreement between Canberra, Washington and London was that Australia would be acquiring nuclear-propulsion technology for submarines sourced from either the United Kingdom or the United States.

This is the best thing Morrison did.

Those lazy French bastards were ripping us off blind.

Dot
Dot
September 21, 2022 5:34 am

As the Federalist points out, imagine if the journo’s spending time tracking planes now did the same with the flights for the past two years.

Over Melbourne?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 21, 2022 5:39 am

BB I read your link. Further down the newspaper says they only print what is on the public record and will not withhold information if requested. Can anyone imagine that happening in Australia. No need for a question mark as it was a statement.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 21, 2022 6:04 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

September 20, 2022 at 8:17 pm

Am informed by ex Army types who know SF types that 2 Cdo command were much more attentive to an unsavory behaviour than 2 Sqn and headed it off at the pass. Sounds like tit for tat or east vs west rivallry again.

On things defence. Another rumour through a mate, apparently ALP true to form has gone to town on Defence budget. Just not public yet.

Dot
Dot
September 21, 2022 6:05 am

My initial reaction is the silly old bastard should be executed for a hate crime.

41 year old Democrat runs over and kills MAGA Republican 18 year old in North Dakota.

(Actually, the kid does not look to be 100% white).

Oh dear. Racist white progressive murders young patriotic conservative man of colour after senile authoritarian declares political rivals as dangerous enemies of “democracy”.

No. It isn’t a death penalty state.

:crying emoji:

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2022 6:22 am

A rather odd EV story.

Bosch Warns Electric Vehicle Industry over Reliance on Battery Cells (19 Sep)

The head of mobility services for German electronics giant Robert Bosch GmbH has warned the electric vehicle industry of the reliance on battery cells and possible shortages in the future.

Bloomberg reports that Markus Heyn, the head of mobility services for Bosch, has warned the electric vehicle industry over its overreliance on a single fuel source — battery cells — as Europe’s energy crisis worsens.

He said in that case, “everyone would certainly like to see an alternative to battery power. But this will only exist if we have prepared it in good time.” Heyn said that alternatives that should be considered include fuel cells using hydrogen and oxygen to power electric motors.

Maybe it’s a translation from German thing, but I can’t see how electric vehicles can really be electric vehicles if they don’t have a battery. Priuses for example are hybrids not EVs, and even they have a large and expensive battery in them. Ok he mentions hydrogen fuel cells, but they’re even worse since they must* use platinum group metals, which are much rarer than battery metals. So as soon as you try to build fuel cell cars you’ll hit a supply and price wall even worse than the current lithium price spike.

Still you’d think the head of Bosch would know a thing or two about electric stuff. So what gives?

(* Proton membrane ones, the alternative being alkaline fuel cells which can’t cope with CO2 in air used for the O2 supply – they get poisoned by it and stop working. No one has found an answer to that problem yet either.)

Crossie
Crossie
September 21, 2022 6:44 am

Bruce, we already have a solution that is safe and cheap, the internal combustion engine but that has been forbidden by the new religion.

bespoke
bespoke
September 21, 2022 6:54 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2022 7:00 am

Stinky Swiss miss.

Switzerland’s Environment Minister Suggests People Shower Together To Save Energy (20 Sep)

Switzerland’s environment minister is facing backlash after recommending that people shower together in an effort to cut energy consumption this winter and fend off power cuts.

Simonetta Sommaruga, 62, suggested that people “turn off the computer when you don’t need it, or turn off lights, or shower together” as part of her measures promoting a 15 percent energy consumption reduction, The Times of London reported.

However, Social Democrat Sommaruga’s comments have been heavily criticized by Géraldine Savary, editor of the women’s magazine Femina.

In an editorial published on Sept. 16, Savary wrote that the Swiss government is seeking to “administer our private lives, down to the most trivial details.”

She jokingly added that Swiss residents should wake up to the sound of “chirping birds” because they have disconnected their alarm clocks, and eat breakfast in “the darkness of the kitchen” before going to work “arm in arm, having left the car, the scooter and the electric bicycle in the garage.”

Haha, even the wymminses pages think she’s out of her tree. Good luck getting the proles to comply, lady.

struth
struth
September 21, 2022 7:06 am

Ah…all the cry babies hate the truth so much those that speak it are tyrannical nut jobs trying to incite rebellion and lead from rhe couch.

Now after all your attempts at character assassination of the messanger. ….let me ask you…..
Were the millions in Australia doing the right thing doing so because it was the right thing to do….or because they’d heard of me and decided to follow my declared path?
Fucking lame.
Trying to pretend it was “Following st Ruths declared path” is a nonsense and a cop out.
No one called dot Hitler either.
When you have to lie about what people said because you can’t argue facts. ..It’s reminiscent of leftism.
Which those living the lie seem to be embracing.
Germans….who went along with the apartheid state of Hitler’s Germany where all flashed their passes….like Notafan…..and all who did so here…were not Hitler. …..but they empowered him.
That was what I was saying to you dot……and you knew it…..the response that I called you Hitler is so typical of the over emotional exaggeration and lies of the sneerers which you are fast becoming.
You may have taken the jab but living a lie to defend your actions will be called out.
And motherlode did the same thing.
I said that there has been a 20% increase in overall deaths….he tries to claim I said 20% of jab takers have died.
The emotion is expected.
You fucked yourselves and even with choo choo not cold in the ground…..you’re in complete denial.

struth
struth
September 21, 2022 7:11 am

Messenger was a predictive text fail.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 21, 2022 7:16 am

From the WSJ.
What could possibly go wrong.

Most Adults Should Be Screened for Anxiety, U.S. Panel Recommends

Adults under the age of 65 should be screened for anxiety disorders and all adults should be checked for depression, a government-backed panel said, as many Americans report symptoms of these mental-health conditions following the height of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 21, 2022 7:19 am

What a mess today, trying to turn a German designed POC into something workable…..

Are you saying the POC won’t work?

I think the problem goes back to education that teaches nothing useful and a gangsta culture that glorifies a brief but violent hedonistic existence in a narcotic fog and a lack of responsible role models. Working eight hours a day is incompatible with that kind of lifestyle.

You would probably do better sourcing your POC’s outside Democrat controlled cities.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 21, 2022 7:21 am

Germans….who went along with the apartheid state of Hitler’s Germany where all flashed their passes

I remember when you wailed that your elderly parents lived interstate and had nobody to care for them, except they did. Then you couldn’t go to see them, except you could. Then you didn’t want to. Even when you had your very own ‘Nazi pass’.

How dare somebody put their own brother’s welfare ahead of some volume-up screecher with predispositions for unwarranted embellishment and throwing toys out of the cot because he’s not immediately acclaimed as Saviour of The PeoPle.

Lode from last night, partially because it is relevant and partially because it deserves yet another run:

Your preposterous persona as the peoples hero is pantomime. You are a small man lookin for an arena wherein to be big. A stupid man lookin for an issue where he might be be influential – by discounting 95% of people, but more to the point by excluding 99.9% of the people you might meet. You desperately need to be a messiah, and need a nodding audience to create the illusion.

Nazi Nazi Nazi. Just like antifa. Go on, put the Jewish cloak on again.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 21, 2022 7:21 am

Is there a better description of fascism than government and corporations working together to suppress individual rights?

As Mussolini said ‘fascism is best defined as a marriage between the corporation and the state..’

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:22 am

Most people will try to reduce their electricity usage because of cost, not because of admonitions from a politician.
They mostly won’t go as far as the gentleman who turned it off every morning but they’ll make sure the washing machine and dishwasher are full, turn off unnecessary lights, dry clothes on a horse not in a dryer, that kind of thing, if they weren’t already.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 21, 2022 7:26 am

Most Adults Should Be Screened for Anxiety, U.S. Panel Recommends

Ah yes, screen asymptomatic people for an invisible disorder, then put them on a drug that ‘manages’ but doesn’t cure it … for life presumably. Where have we heard that business model before?

(Statins antihypertensives, oral hypoglycaemic, NSAIDS….)

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:33 am
struth
struth
September 21, 2022 7:34 am

Do you lie from emotion or training KD?
I had my own Nazipass now?

You’re a fuck head.
A prize fuck head.
Answer the question above numbnuts
Did all those millions only do the right thing because I told them to?

Dot
Dot
September 21, 2022 7:38 am

Yes struth, you gave me “so much truth” you can’t take up a bet or answer my questions, just shake your fist and ramble on about your righteousness.

struth
struth
September 21, 2022 7:39 am

The power of st Ruth. ..It’s incredible.
Those millions lost….not knowing the right thing to do heard about a truckie in Qld.

struth
struth
September 21, 2022 7:41 am

I’ll get an apology from you first dot.
I gave y ou more credit than to lie like the sneerers.
What is this bet you speak of?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 21, 2022 7:41 am

You’re a fuck head.
A prize fuck head.

So emotional. Just put the mascara away and calm down, please.

Did all those millions only do the right thing because I told them to?

Is this a ‘stolen freEdom votes’ reference?

shatterzzz
September 21, 2022 7:43 am

Unfortunate enuf to join in the Woolworths celebration of the Sept 20 OAP rise this morning ..!
bought 10 standard, every week shop items .. 8 of the 10 have gone up since last time bought ..! duuh!

custard
custard
September 21, 2022 7:44 am

And another day dawns. It was great to talk to two great Cats last night.

If they wish to share any thoughts about the conversation that took place that is matter for them.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:45 am

Every day, like a whistling kettle that can never boil dry.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 7:45 am

This is me as the waiter and JC as Mr Creosote]

Really? How pathetic and unaware could someone be who has been called out as a clown, a buffoon and wants people to imagine him as John Cleese- a buffoon.

Come on JC, just three itty bitty teensy weensy little questions.

In the reams and reams of missives to Fatboy, did you talk to him in that effeminate tone too?

Let’s take this very slowly.
Question 1 – do you believe that a climate trend can come to an end and be superseded by a different climate trend?
Question 2
If your answer to question 1 was “no”, please report tomorrow morning to the Sheltered Workshop for Mental Defectives.
If your answer was “yes”, please consider the following scenario:
A climate trend has lasted 100 years and is superseded by another trend which may well last another 100 years. How long into the second 100 years do we have to wait before we’re allowed to ask serious questions (like BoN did) of those who insist that the first trend is continuing?
Question 3
If your answer to question 2 was “more than 25 years”, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for that answer?

Tell you what champ, go and answer my questions first and try to do so honestly.

I couldn’t believe what an hysterical twit you are for being shown to be wrong.
Fester used the shorter time frame like any cherry picking alarmist would. To lie and exaggerate. That’s what you’re supporting and now too engulfed in your position to change opinions. You’re embarrassing.

Go answer my questions first Judge Judy.

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2022 7:45 am

And the war on truth and free speech continues….

Back in June of this year, a biologist named Colin Wright, who has written that biological sex is a reality, that there are only two biological sexes and that only biological females are women (I know, such shocking bigotry and transphobia), had his account with payment processer PayPay demonetised and closed, no explanation given.

In the last few days, the UK’s excellent Free Speech Union (I’m a member), and The Daily Sceptic website, both founded and run by Toby Young, have also had their accounts demonetised and closed by payment processer PayPal, no explanation given. Also, Toby Young’s personal PayPal account was demonetised and closed, no explanation given. Young’s personal account even had money in it (for his children), the dosh now gobbled up by PayPal.

Of course, these tech evictions, cancellations and demonetisations have been going on now for years, since 2018, but because it was then only fringe personalities such as Milo, Gavin McInnes, Laura Loomer, Alex Jones and others, everyone just shrugged their shoulders and some on the right even laughed, and despite the GOP having a majority in both houses back in 2018, they did what RINOs, LINOs and CINOs excel at….they just sat back and did nothing about progressive big tech power abuses and progressive censorship. So naturally, what happens when nothing is done? Well, it gets even worse and we even saw the former president of the USA booted from every major tech platform. And so, because they’ve been given the green light PayPal, Twitter, Patreon and all the rest continue to censor and/or boot those who have said things that might be considered unorthodox to the progressive mindset, such as criticising lockdown policies and vaccine mandates, questioning net zero emissions, that there are only two biological sexes, all of this is now, as Young said overnight on GB News, verboten as far as these tech companies are concerned.

But heck Toby…don’t be upset, in the immortal words of a very unlamented, so called conservative, right of centre Liberal PM of Australia….

“Free Speech doesn’t create one job’

Well might we laugh but it isn’t funny, is it?

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 7:46 am

Custard

How much did you lose?

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:47 am

It’s going to keep happening shatterzz as energy and fuel prices go up up up.
Time to get your vegetable crop in the ground, summer winter is coming.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 7:48 am

Whoops

This bit shouldn’t be in quotes

Tell you what champ, go and answer my questions first and try to do so honestly.

I couldn’t believe what an hysterical twit you are for being shown to be wrong.
Fester used the shorter time frame like any cherry picking alarmist would. To lie and exaggerate. That’s what you’re supporting and now too engulfed in your position to change opinions. You’re embarrassing.

Go answer my questions first Judge Judy.

duncanm
duncanm
September 21, 2022 7:48 am

With all the slagging-off going on here at the moment, I’m only visiting for Tom’s toons.

What a bunch of children some of you have become.

custard
custard
September 21, 2022 7:49 am

$560

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:50 am

Duncanm while you are
Do you know how to find age of death at the ABS website?
I’ve tried to but not having any success.

Crossie
Crossie
September 21, 2022 7:52 am

Cassie, it’s beginning to look as if you have to be independently rich to have free speech. The great reset is almost complete.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:53 am

I was wondering if, somehow, lockdowns had actually slowed down death rates for older people and now they are catching up.

Gabor
Gabor
September 21, 2022 7:54 am

A question, not really important, but puzzling.
I logged in to Discordant cats first time for many months and I can only see posts, posted at the last time I was logged in, no new activity.
Strange, why is it so?

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 7:55 am

Just wow.

I know, it’s the NYTimes but it wifey’s sub.

Tens of thousands of bar-tailed godwits are taking advantage of favorable winds this month and next for their annual migration from the mud flats and muskeg of southern Alaska, south across the vast expanse of the Pacific Ocean, to the beaches of New Zealand and eastern Australia.

They are making their journey of more than 7,000 miles by flapping night and day, without stopping to eat, drink or rest.

“The more I learn, the more amazing I find them,” said Theunis Piersma, a professor of global flyway ecology at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands and an expert in the endurance physiology of migratory birds. “They are a total evolutionary success.”
The godwit’s epic flight — the longest nonstop migration of a land bird in the world — lasts from eight to 10 days and nights through pounding rain, high winds and other perils. It is so extreme, and so far beyond what researchers knew about long-distance bird migration, that it has required new investigations.

And

Distances vary, but all told, in a year, the godwits cover some 30,000 kilometers, or nearly 18,720 miles, because they take a less direct route to return north in March. They fly nonstop from New Zealand to China’s Yellow Sea and its rich tidal flats, where they refuel, and then return to Alaska. And they are proficient at the incredibly risky endeavor; the survival rate is more than 90 percent.

“It’s not really like a marathon,” said Christopher Guglielmo, an animal physiologist at Western University in London, Ontario, who studies avian endurance physiology. “It’s more like a trip to the moon.”

And we think flying intercontinental is a stupendous marvel.

Where do they end up on Oz?

shatterzzz
September 21, 2022 7:56 am

Incredible an amazing insight into the level of BONDAGE in the AFL .. not an AFL fan but always thought it was a sport that ALL the participants engaged in willingly but, apparently, I was wrong! .. seems lotza the younger , impressionable, kiddies are ‘stolen” and then forced into the lifestyle without any avenues of redress or quitting ..
no idea if they are paid, as well, the “exposure” doesn’t go that far .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/alastair-clarkson-and-chris-fagan-named-in-hawks-review/101452320

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 7:58 am

Google tells me mostly northern Australia on estuarine mudflats, JC.

P
P
September 21, 2022 7:59 am

Anchor What says:
September 21, 2022 at 5:22 am

This god complex, combined with his downright amorality and bizarre ideas about society, makes the 92-year-old extremely dangerous to democracies, especially America. The warning comes loud and clear in Matt Palumbo’s recent book, The Man Behind the Curtain: Inside the Secret Network of George Soros, which documents Soros’s decades of financial dealings, political operations, and nefarious networks.”

Janet Levy at American Thinker

Comments (27) very interesting also.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 21, 2022 8:00 am

$560

Ah …. I made $25k on the 2016 election, and they stole 10 back in 2020.

As another poster noted…. for those with eyes, the steal was obvious, but the Left now so thoroughly control the apparatus of state that they don’t bother hiding it anymore. Meanwhile, 95% of the people just keep watching MKR, rolling up their sleeves and supporting ‘the current thing’

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 8:02 am

Neilson

No kidding the endless screeds are a sign of mental instability. You not only did that with Fatboy, but you’re tried that shit with Lizzie – screeds that went for days and longer than the bible. It was beyond the so called evil she caused and didn’t. That’s not going to work with me, champ. You should be asking yourself why are you posting these screeds for zero money , when as a tax attorney you could be charging over 1000 bucks and hour that have value. No work! No wonder. Go see someone about it as you’re unstable. I reckon there’s room here for a group therapy.

duncanm
duncanm
September 21, 2022 8:03 am

rosiesays:
September 21, 2022 at 4:40 am
You guessed it, climatechange.
At the Age, wasn’t paywalled?
Inundation by salt water’: Maps show threat to Inverloch beachside properties

1933

INVERLOCH Mr. W. G. McKenzie, M.L.A., has received the following letter from the Department of Public Works “Sir, —With reference to your representations in the matter, I beg to
inform you that the Minister of Public Works has approved of a subsidy of £75 to the council of the Shire of Woorayl towards cost of works for the prevention of erosion on the foreshore of Inverloch

1950

Minister to Discuss Erosion
Erosion and flooding at San Remo and Inverloch will be discussed by the Minister for Public Works (Sir James Kennedy) when he visits the district next, Thursday.

1954

Erosion plan Inverloch, Thursday
The Inverloch Progress Association has suggested to the Ports and Harbors Department that ship hulks be scuttled near Point Smythe to arrest erosion and reduce tidal flooding of Anderson’s Inlet.

.. etc

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 21, 2022 8:08 am

Achtung! Producer Prices in Germany Jump 7.9 Percent in August to 45.8 Percent, Highest Jump in Prices in History of German Economy

September 20, 2022 – sundance

The statistics behind the energy impact upon the German economy, the largest economy in the European Union, are almost unfathomable in scale. There is no way for the German industrial economy to continue with this level of price pressure. Stick a fork in the current creation of German industrial products and exports, the inflection point of feasibility for continued production has been crossed. They are done.

According to release statistics from the German economic ministry, energy prices in August were more than double the same period last year, up 139%. The monthly increase was more than 20.4% higher than July. Additionally, producer prices for electricity rose 174.9% compared with August 2021 and by 26.4% in a single month.

This jaw-dropping increase in energy cost has resulted in German manufacturing prices for industrial goods jumping 7.9% in August alone, with a year-over-year increase in the cost to manufacture goods at 45.8%. That is the highest rate of price increase since Germany began recording their statistics in 1939.

What does this mean in practical terms?

Firstly, it means the people within Germany and the larger EU will not be able to afford goods if the increased price to manufacture them is passed on to customers. German industrial goods, including the heavily dependent auto sector, will hit the market at double the price from last year. Exported goods, again assuming the government doesn’t provide some sort of subsidy to offset, would also double.

Secondly, it means the prices of used goods will increase in value. With imported vehicles holding that scale of increased manufacturing price, I would expect to see German automobile dealers in the U.S. sending out incentives to purchase used BMW’s, Audi’s and Mercedes for the products that are not produced in North America.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 8:09 am

Thanks Duncanm
I’ve stayed there in the past, seems to be same same for that first row of houses nearest the beach, except now ridiculously expensive.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 21, 2022 8:09 am

Coastal erosion is suddenly a new thing. Never happened before. Nup. No way.

You don’t need a degree in oceanography to work out sandy beaches in particular,
are only ever temporary.
That ‘temporary’ can sometimes be measured in geological time scales and sometimes in merely decades when puny humans forget they’re puny humans*.
*Side-eyes some surf killing attempts to stop bits of Surfers Paradise
from going elsewhere.

duncanm
duncanm
September 21, 2022 8:09 am

rosiesays:
September 21, 2022 at 7:50 am
Duncanm while you are
Do you know how to find age of death at the ABS website?
I’ve tried to but not having any success.

rosie. Data is in the weekly and monthly dashboards at the bottom of the page you linked.

A quick squiz says the elderly are up by about 10-20% and constitute most of the excess deaths – which puts paid to the theory that the vax is a major contributor.

duncanm
duncanm
September 21, 2022 8:10 am

make that ‘major contributor in the young’

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 21, 2022 8:11 am

I prefer the headline as displayed in ABC News app so I’ve run with it here:
‘Gentle’ and ‘passionate’ healers use ancient methods in outback Kimberleys

Sounds like the kind of thing you could do serious time for. Also, Buronga Ridge Fruity Lexia has been around for quite awhile but it’s hardly ancient.

On the banks of the Fitzroy River in the Kimberley’s central desert, a group of women gather.

They run their hands over the knee of a patient and sing an ancient song.

Their meeting is part of a program called Jalngangurru Healing — a pilot project that works with cultural healers to treat patients in the outback Kimberley.

The women’s practices are slow and meditative, and among the people of Fitzroy Crossing are said to be effective.

Beth (whose name has been changed for cultural reasons) is a healer who works with the program.

“We’ve been doing this for ages, for a long time,” she said.

The elder recalled her time healing a woman at a nearby roadhouse, who had been suffering from headaches.

“We rubbed everywhere all over her body with red ochre, and then sang a healing song,” she said.

“She just sat quieter, feeling the spirit … it’s gone into her, into her head, everywhere.”

Dear lord, whitey’s gunna make it rain for these folks.

Petrine McCrohan works with the healers in Fitzroy Crossing as a coordinator, driving them to and from patients.

She said she had seen firsthand how important the service was, and the need for it to operate alongside traditional healthcare.

“[Culturally appropriate healthcare] is desperately important because I’ve spoken to some older women who’ve been Aboriginal healthcare workers … and they’ve seen people die because they haven’t been able to get access to their own healers,” Ms McCrohan said.

“[It’s through] no fault on the Western medical practitioners, but they just couldn’t help. “What they needed was something different, they needed something through their own Aboriginal knowledge system.”

In all seriousness – considering the state of the medical profession as witnessed over the past two years, if I got sick, I’d sooner go pay an old woman to slap some dirt on me whilst warbling out a sea shanty from the 1850s rather than consult one of the overeducated vaccine salesmen referred to as ‘doctors’. At least the former is harmless.

bespoke
bespoke
September 21, 2022 8:16 am

I don’t think it’s fare to call the general population sheep.
We live in a system that relies on being informed by others.
Unless you can think of an alternative go after the one’s responsible for the miss information.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 8:17 am

Thanks Duncan, I found it. Hard to read on phone, next time I’m on PC I’ll have a look. That or do my tax return.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2022 8:17 am

Last night I made a post at 7:21 pm referring to JC’s comment about his “battered wives”.

Since then he has made multiple posts and it is quite clear he must have read mine. So I think it safe to assume he does not want to reply. The thing about wife beaters is that they are always bullies and cowards. Like any wife beater he doesn’t like any fightback from his “battered’s”. He screams “pile on” whenever he stirs up too many at the same time.

Thanks for reading but I just wanted to emphasise the point by being a bit repetitive. Just like JC often does.

If he has a go at you respond in the same manner. Who knows maybe one day he might realise it is not a productive way to spends his days.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 21, 2022 8:21 am

Governmental incompetence:

Sort of like the Pell case, and the Dawson case, and the VikPol being used for political cases, and the climate change rorting, and the pushing of EVs and….

They knew it was dubious but didn’t say a word

HEDLEY THOMAS

Scientists who use clumsily complicated explanations of the process of taking and testing DNA are apt to baffle the rest of us.

Lawyers with legalese unwittingly raise further obstacles to the wider public’s comprehension of DNA’s crucial role in crime fighting. But there should be no misunderstanding about what is at stake with DNA and crime in Queensland right now.

In plain language, one of the most alarming and systemic crises to confront the state’s criminal justice system is being revealed at the start of a royal commission-style inquiry.

Inquiry head Walter Sofronoff’s interim findings – delivered before a single witness has been sworn in to give evidence – are gravely serious.

Strip the scientific mumbo-jumbo and legalese away and what we’re left with are findings that mean when it comes to major crimes and potential DNA, victims in Queensland are hurt twice. Firstly by the offenders, and secondly by the state’s DNA testing system.

We are talking about victims of rapes. Of child sexual abuse. Of horrific murders and cowardly ­serious assaults.

All of these victims of major crimes should always – no ifs or buts – benefit from exhaustive and forensic focus by the state’s DNA testing lab of the human cells left behind in rapes and ­killings.

Instead, Queensland Health scientist-managers in charge of the lab take it upon themselves to play god with the potentially ­incriminating evidence.

These public servants – who would be stood down for incompetence if they were in the private sector – have put the lab’s KPIs and obsession with backlog and waiting lists ahead of the safety of the wider public.

The effect of their wrong­headed decisions to minimise testing and mislead the criminal justice system with untrue reporting about the potential presence of DNA in crime scene samples will be obvious.

The effect, inevitably, is that dangerous criminals walk free. To offend again.

We’ll soon hear from some of the scientists who have been in charge of the laboratory as it got away with bad science for years. They will surely be compelled to give evidence in this inquiry.

Victims of crime stood no chance. The scientific managers even bamboozled heads of the Queensland police into accepting a substandard, unforgivable model of DNA detection.

And they, or more senior ­bureaucrats in charge, succeeded in spinning the Health Minister, Yvette D’Ath, and Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk as The Australian and the Shandee’s Story podcast series were exposing the dire situation since late last year.

The public servants would have continued and got away with it too, were it not for the courage of forensic biologist ­Kirsty Wright. Dr Wright started out by highlighting in the podcast alarming problems with the testing of DNA in Shandee Blackburn’s 2013 murder. Then she kept going to prove gross negligence in numerous other cases.

Dr Wright told me in January this year when the politicians and bureaucrats were still hosing down calls for a public inquiry: “I said to you a few months ago, I think Shandee’s case is the tip of a really large iceberg. I really did not want that to be true.

“I feel sick to the bottom of my stomach that this is going on. And I understand the gravity of these findings. Something has to be done. This can’t be swept under the carpet.”

All those boffins and managers who tried to silence Kirsty Wright, who worked to undermine the concerns we were raising in Shandee’s Story, are arguably complicit in the attempted cover-up.

Why have other highly qualified scientists, who are still employed in the lab having adopted processes which they must have known were defective and certain to let criminals walk, not spoken up before?

What about the senior police with their own longtime misgivings? The state’s Ombudsman? The Crime and Corruption Commission? The Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions?

If the watchdogs and pillars of the system have failed too, Walter Sofronoff’s inquiry might tell us why.

In 2005 after a commission of inquiry run by former Supreme Court judge Geoff Davies into the dysfunction in Queensland Health, he described “a culture of concealment”. The problems were ingrained. Systemic. History repeats itself. Poor DNA detection rates from the DNA lab have been talked about behind closed doors by cops and lawyers and scientists for years.

They knew the lab was dodgy, perhaps broken, but they couldn’t get behind the screens to work it all out. They didn’t speak up.

As a result, a hidden crisis gathered momentum, affecting more cases – until Dr Wright, with a bit of spare time on her hands, agreed to help me ­understand a suspicious lack of DNA evidence in the ­brutal stabbing murder of Shandee Blackburn as she walked home from work in the sugar and mining town of Mackay in central Queensland.

The inquiry head, Mr Sofronoff, and his team of lawyers and investigators are all over it now.

Let his public inquiry remove the deeply misleading scientific veil and tell Queenslanders, in blunt terms, what has gone wrong, who is responsible, why they got away with it, and how the system gets fixed.

With proper retesting of the DNA at major crime scenes, there’s still a chance the police can arrest and charge the criminals who were permitted to get away with their violent deeds for years.

That should become the ­unrelenting focus of the cops for years ahead.

Oz

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 21, 2022 8:24 am

If the Clarkson, Fagan and Hawthorn allegations are true then they have used ‘abortion’ as a management tool for a player. That is barbaric.

Have to be careful with these allegations though. There are 2 sides to each event. It would be good to here from Clarkson and Fagan.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 8:24 am

What would we do without ‘contributors’ whose only contribution is to post long winded complaints about people they don’t like and complain they aren’t being provided with quality entertainment?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 21, 2022 8:25 am

Ah, the healing powers of red ochre and song. Must be a PHD in that. Being able to differentiate between the two, maybe one is a prop. Maybe both and their was nothing wrong in the first place. So many questions, wheres my grant is the first one.

Crossie
Crossie
September 21, 2022 8:28 am

OCO at 8:11, why would the outback indigenous people trust modern medicine when they are constantly told about the evil whitey? Mental attitude often defeats medication though I wonder what happens when they fracture a limb or get some other disease that requires surgery.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2022 8:29 am

DuncanM,
I have not had time to look at the data plus our trends might be behind the UK. Dr John Campbell had a recent episode where he said deaths in elderly should actually be down because so many who would normally die this year had died ahead of time in 2020 and 2021.

What is clear is that our average age of people dying with Covid is mid 80’s (obviously with comorbidities) but the media mostly reports the number of deaths and not ages and no mention of comorbidities. This distorts how people think about the virus because as we all know there is little danger to the under 70’s.

Covid was even mentioned during the reporting of the death of a 110 year old !

As Coatesworth has said when you are in your 80’s with comorbidities pretty anything will do you in including mild flu.

the elderly are up by about 10-20% and constitute most of the excess deaths – which puts paid to the theory that the vax is a major contributor.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 21, 2022 8:30 am

Those New Oirish seem nice.

bespoke
bespoke
September 21, 2022 8:32 am

I don’t know JC apart from online but hinting he is a wife beater seems pretty low.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 8:33 am

Rooster

You really shouldn’t be sort of describing yourself as a “wife”. It’s not a good look. I describe, you are the others as battered wives because you behave that way. You’re always back for more and don’t know when to go away. It’s also a weird form of adoration too.

You’re obsessed.

JC
JC
September 21, 2022 8:34 am

bespoke says:
September 21, 2022 at 8:32 am

I don’t know JC apart from online but hinting he is a wife beater seems pretty low.

Actually, it’s funny because the rooster appears to be placing himself in that position. He used to go absolutely nuts about it in the past.

Dot
Dot
September 21, 2022 8:35 am

These public servants – who would be stood down for incompetence if they were in the private sector – have put the lab’s KPIs and obsession with backlog and waiting lists ahead of the safety of the wider public.

If they didn’t get results, Hedley Thomas would call them incompetent.

The law is not legalese. Science is not Mumbai jumbo.

In 2005 after a commission of inquiry run by former Supreme Court judge Geoff Davies into the dysfunction in Queensland Health, he described “a culture of concealment”. The problems were ingrained. Systemic. History repeats itself. Poor DNA detection rates from the DNA lab have been talked about behind closed doors by cops and lawyers and scientists for years.

No.

They could be doing their job properly.

You cannot conjure evidence when it does not exist.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 21, 2022 8:36 am

.
Secondly, it means the prices of used goods will increase in value. With imported vehicles holding that scale of increased manufacturing price, I would expect to see German automobile dealers in the U.S. sending out incentives to purchase used BMW’s, Audi’s and Mercedes for the products that are not produced in North America.

It’d be a laugh if the flood of ropey old Audis and VWs that head east to be resold at enormous profit ever since the USSR went kaput started flowing back to their country of origin to be repurchased by their original owners.

Hey Fritz, check out this beautiful 2003 Opel Astra, only 7 accidents between 16 careful owners, (dashcam footage included, dashcam sold separately), convenient aftermarket storage area recently added to dashboard (stereo sold separately), everything works great except the odometer. A bargain at whatever the 2022 model with the 12 year waiting list costs. Sorry, we don’t accept Euros.

rosie
rosie
September 21, 2022 8:37 am

Excess deaths in the elderly.
Covid, speaks for itself, more or less?
‘Dementia’, more rapid deterioration because of lack of social contact due to lockdowns?
Delayed diagnoses of cancers etc, because of lockdowns again?
Enough of an increase this year to be noticeable in a decrease in average life expectancy?

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2022 8:37 am

“You cannot conjure evidence when it does not exist.”

Indeed…but as in the case of Pell and the alleged in the Higgins’ case, they do.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 21, 2022 8:39 am

JCsays:
September 21, 2022 at 7:45 am

Poor old self-beclowner.
Can’t answer three simple questions because he knows he’ll cement his position as a fitting object of jeering hooting ridicule.
As best I can tell I’ve answered every one of his “questions” but he’s pretending I haven’t to give himself a pathetically transparent excuse.
In any case my three questions are so straightforward that if he had answers to them it would be the simplest thing in the world to tick them off. His failure to do so is the key to understanding his hopeless implosion from his initial dogmatic bluster against BoN.

Of course the cause of his self-beclownment has become apparent now that he’s outed himself as a fanatical disciple of Greta Thunberg, with his yammering on about the “AGW span” and his insistence that there can’t be a change in climate trend within that period.

His second missive is right about one thing – I’ve got a work deadline today and a commitment this evening so it might be a while till I can respond to any further eructations from him.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2022 8:39 am

All those boffins and managers who tried to silence Kirsty Wright, who worked to undermine the concerns we were raising in Shandee’s Story, are arguably complicit in the attempted cover-up.

Why have other highly qualified scientists, who are still employed in the lab having adopted processes which they must have known were defective and certain to let criminals walk, not spoken up before?

We’ve seen exactly the same thing over and over everywhere. Climate realists like Peter Ridd get pilloried and fired from their jobs. Vaccine injuries are swept under the same carpet. Election questions are hushed up and the questioners persecuted. This is getting worse than the Soviet Union, and government scientists are increasingly in the same honeypot as the bureaucrats and pollies.

It certainly can’t end well.

  1. Is that the line being pushed by the DNC/MSM talking points? Very inventive, but hardly credible.

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