Open Thread – Weekend 24 Sept 2022


Misty morning in Italy, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1864

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September 27, 2022 7:26 am

Trouble in paradise? This from the Sydney Morning Herald:

Leaked email reveals Greens staffer ‘scared and in shock’ after Lidia Thorpe’s ‘truly awful’ outburst

By Lisa Visentin

Greens senator Lidia Thorpe’s former chief-of-staff says he was scared and appalled by her outburst in a meeting with two Indigenous community leaders at Parliament House last year, calling her behaviour among the most unprofessional conduct he has ever witnessed.

The claims by Thorpe’s ex-top adviser reinforce the account of the meeting by Aboriginal elder Aunty Geraldine Atkinson, aged in her 70s, who has previously alleged the tirade of abuse levelled at her by the senator distressed her so much she sought medical attention from the parliamentary nurse.

David Mejia-Canales, who resigned from Thorpe’s office in June, accompanied the senator to the meeting with Atkinson and Marcus Stewart, the co-chairs of the First Peoples’ Assembly of Victoria, and their policy adviser Nicole Schlesinger, to discuss the state’s treaty process in a committee room in Parliament House, Canberra on June 22, 2021.

His account of what happened, and his efforts to inform the Greens’ leadership of Thorpe’s “appalling conduct”, are detailed in an apology emailed from his Parliament House address to Atkinson and Stewart in June, one year after the meeting, as one of his final acts before leaving the senator’s office.

In the email, a copy of which has been obtained by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Mejia-Canales said he still did not know why Thorpe had agreed to the meeting only to proceed “to behave so badly”.

“Since that meeting, I have wanted to reach out to you to apologise because the conduct that I witnessed at that meeting was by far one of the most unprofessional displays I have ever seen, not just during the length of my career, but in my life,” the email, sent to Atkinson and Marcus Stewart on June 21, 2022, stated.

He described his shock at how the meeting “went so wrong and so quickly”, and said his “biggest regret” was not ending the meeting sooner. He said he ended the meeting by getting a colleague to call the room’s phone.

“I hope that you can understand that I was scared and in shock because I have never, ever been in that situation at work,” he wrote.

“Eventually, I did discreetly text my colleagues to ask one of them to ring the committee room we were in, I then pretended that it was an urgent phone call and we needed to leave therefore cutting the meeting short.”

The claims by Mejia-Canales about Thorpe’s behaviour follow a period of scrutiny on Parliament House’s workplace culture, including the damning 2021 Jenkins report which examined bullying and sexual harassment within the building and recommended a new code of conduct for federal MPs and their staff be implemented. A special joint select committee will hold public hearings this week on a code of conduct for federal MPs and staffers.

Mejia-Canales described how he “wanted the earth to swallow me whole” as he and Thorpe exited the meeting room into a public part of Parliament House where a class “of excited school children” were waiting. He said they gave an impromptu speech welcoming the children to the building and “had to pretend as if everything was fine and normal”.

“I had just witnessed the most unprofessional conduct, and now I was staring at about 30 children who wanted to know what it’s like to work at Parliament House. It was truly awful,” he said.

Mejia-Canales does not go into detail in the email about the exact nature of Thorpe’s conduct. He declined to comment when approached by this masthead. Atkinson and Stewart, who is the partner of Jana Stewart who became a Labor senator in April this year, also declined to comment.

However, in a written complaint sent to Greens leader Adam Bandt following the meeting, Atkinson described Thorpe’s conduct as “vicious and personal” and “abusive”, and requested he take steps to ensure her complaint did not provoke further retaliation.

In a separate letter sent to then-Senate president Scott Ryan and revealed by The Age last year, Atkinson said Thorpe criticised the prominent Bamblett family, of which Atkinson is a member, saying they had “always tried to undermine her and bring her down”, and suggested Atkinson was involved in corrupt Aboriginal organisations.

“When I tried to intervene to respond, Senator Thorpe spoke over the top of me in a highly aggressive tone, repeatedly stating, ‘I am an Australian senator. You are in my meeting.’ I interpreted this as her using her position to try to intimidate me,” Atkinson said in the letter.

At the time, Thorpe described the meeting as a “robust discussion” about Victoria’s treaty program in which she raised concerns about the exclusion of some of the state’s 38 clans from the process. As recently as April this year, Thorpe described the exchange as “just a normal conversation I have in parliament every day”, saying “I did nothing wrong, so there’s no apology”.

Mejia-Canales raised the incident with Bandt’s chief-of-staff Damien Lawson, saying in the email he gave “a frank and true disclosure of what I witnessed”, but added he did not know if any action was taken.

Thorpe declined to respond directly to a series of questions from this masthead about Mejia-Canales’ account of the meeting and his characterisation of her behaviour, including whether she intended to apologise. Instead, a spokesperson for the senator repeated her view that the meeting involved a “robust discussion” about the treaty process.

“The Greens continue to work constructively with the First Peoples Assembly, particularly in the Victorian parliament as that is the jurisdiction of their work,” the spokesperson said.

“It would be inappropriate to discuss staffing matters publicly. The Greens have a strong complaints handling process, and when issues are raised, they are addressed.”

In response to written questions, Bandt declined to say why he had not contacted Atkinson directly to acknowledge her written complaints or offer an apology. Through a spokesperson, he said he discussed the matter with Thorpe but did not elaborate.

“Following correspondence from the First People’s Assembly of Victoria, Mr Bandt spoke with Senator Lidia Thorpe about the June 2021 meeting. Mr Bandt’s office also spoke with staff from Senator Thorpe’s office,” the spokesperson said.

“While we can’t comment on any individual staff complaints, we are confident that we have strong processes for addressing complaints that have been strengthened since the Jenkins Review.”

In the email, Mejia-Canales stressed that the apology was from him alone for not bringing an end to the meeting sooner, and not on behalf of Thorpe, and wished Atkinson and Stewart “nothing but my well wishes to you both”.

“This apology is from me and me alone both in my personal capacity but also as an employee, because no person should ever have to experience such appalling behaviour, let alone in their own workplace,” he said.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 7:27 am

min, isn’t there an aged care ombudsman or something?

If there was, you’d think the Victorian one would have piped up while Andrews and Hot Button Sutton were killing 800 of them a couple of years ago.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 7:28 am

min, isn’t there an aged care ombudsman or something?

Scroll down to ‘I have concerns about elder abuse’ for starters. Not sure what else may apply in min’s situation.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 7:28 am

I have had a death in the family. I have been hit for six.

Shit state of affairs. Condolences on your bereavement Dot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 7:30 am

m0ntysays:
September 26, 2022 at 10:34 pm
Melonhead did indeed use the term financial speculators, as cited upthread.

And immediately, m0nty-fa heard (in his inner mind) the words “rootless cosmopolitans … or financial speculators … or hook-nosed goblins”.

Anti-Semitic fascist trash.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 7:34 am

If you think Melonblonde’s party has really changed from a few short years ago when they were openly fascist into a centre right vehicle, you are fairly gullible.

If m0nty-fa thinks that the DemonRat Party has really changed from not many years ago, when they were openly racist, and still welcomed leaders of the KKK into their ranks, he is fairly gullible.

Fixedly!

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 7:35 am

Trouble in paradise? This from the Sydney Morning Herald

I’d suggest that the viciousness of inter-clan rivalry in aboriginal politics makes the standards of parliament house look to be all sweetness and light by comparison

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2022 7:36 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 27, 2022 at 6:50 am
It’s not a flash crash of the pound, it’s a flash rise of the USD.
We’ve gone under 65c overnight.
It’s the flight to safety reflex, which is ironic since it is the US that is causing this mayhem due to Dem policies.

My guess would be that everyone expects real unrest in Europe and UK this winter so they are parking their money in the only safer place left. Frankly, I would be inclined to park my money anywhere but in Euro and the Pound.

The US did not cause the energy crisis in Europe and the UK, they did it themselves, the US followed in their footsteps but only during Democrat administrations.

I wonder if this development is also a belief by big money that Dems will be hobbled in the November elections so it’s safe to buy the dollar.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 7:38 am

Condolences Dot.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2022 7:39 am

No matter how good or important the vido is, I doubt more than 1% of people are going to watch a 2 hour program in the hope of 10 minutes of worthwhile content.

Dr. McCullough was only there for the first hour. All the Roundtables are long and on YouTube can easily get 100,000 views. That’s why this one was consigned to Rumble. The suppression of information is one of the issues they cover.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 7:40 am

These bits here, from TE’s quoted piece:

Atkinson said Thorpe criticised the prominent Bamblett family, of which Atkinson is a member, saying they had “always tried to undermine her and bring her down”, and suggested Atkinson was involved in corrupt Aboriginal organisations.

And:

Thorpe described the meeting as a “robust discussion” about Victoria’s treaty program in which she raised concerns about the exclusion of some of the state’s 38 clans from the process.

This. This is the reason a ‘broad church’ indig Voice will fail, and it is the same reason every other national indig association with the potential to receive cash from the taxpayer (ie, ATSIC) has failed.

It is, and always has been about establishing the primacy of one skin group, or ‘clan’ over another. It is a ruthless, bloodthirsty process that makes Game of Thrones look like a Lions Club kids’ Christmas party where everyone gets a present.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 7:42 am

Holy rainbow serpents.

Snap Roger.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 7:43 am

We only get a glimpse of inter-clan rivalries fron time to time where land rights claims end up in court or something similar.
Didn’t Plibesek’s recent decision involve competing groups.
Suspect the voice will quickly degenerate into the cacophony.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 7:44 am

UBS put out a decent note on the Inflation Reduction Act last week.
It should be called the How Much Money Can We Shovel Into Wall Street Act.
Ex the $US400bill green VC fund, the key part that Wall Street is cheering is the part where “scoped” companies will either have to choose between paying the IRS the minimum tax rate or buying assets/companies (effectively the only way around the minimum tax for “scoped” companies).

PE firms (yes the ones that don’t have to worried about the carried interest provisions being knocked on the head after the DNC took that out of the IRA) that were concerned that the secondary market for their crap drying up has just been given an structural boost.
A deep market of S&P500 companies who will happily buy marginal assets from PE firms instead of paying the tax.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 7:45 am

Examples from the previous page of m0nty-fa showing respect for women in politics.

“Melons … Melonpasta … Melonblonde … ”

A kinder, gentler, fascism from the resident BlackShirt?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 7:47 am

Wall Street always wins.
Always.

bespoke
bespoke
September 27, 2022 7:47 am

I can’t find enything monty has said being remotely anti-Semitic.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 7:47 am

OVER ONE MILLION Fentanyl Pills Seized From Arizona Home

At least the owners weren’t as panicked as George Floyd.

If they had try to scoff them all down to hide the evidence they would have been wheeled into the morgue, bellies rattling like a child’s toy every time the wheels encountered as lip of bump in the floor.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 7:49 am

Numerous Material Issues Including the Clinton Foundation and Its Auditor Ignoring $483 Million Error

For Democrats that is a rounding error.

And as with all rounded numbers you don’t know if it was rounded up or down.

It could be that people owe the Clintons more money.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2022 7:50 am

So – will there be a run on the banks as a result of the massive hack of Optus????

shatterzzz
September 27, 2022 7:50 am

Maybe it’s time we ‘white” folk had a VOICE .. a motorcycle rider killed in Brisbane by 4 teens driving a stolen car and the media buries it way down the “news” list .. WHY? .. cos the under-age scroats are 251s .. now if they’d been ‘whitey” this story would be headlines .. FFS!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-27/qld-wynnum-west-fatal-motorcyclist/101476078

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 7:51 am

OVER ONE MILLION Fentanyl Pills Seized From Arizona Home

The establishment doesn’t care about poor people.
Fentanyl kills poor people.
So the establishment doesn’t care about fentanyl.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 27, 2022 7:51 am

Once more for the dummies…
Fascists are socialists who are nationalist rather than internationalist like the communists. They are chauvinist rather than racist, ie if you were a citizen, regardless of race, colour or creed, you had full rights.

Nazis are the racist* socialists who are also nationalist., Ie regardless of your citizenship, if your creed or ‘race’ were wrong you had no rights.

It took Mussolini 22 years to decree anti Semitic legislation, which was not enforced. That legislation was demanded by Hitler, but never really enforced. Italian Jews really only had a problem after Mussolini was deposed. Little known fact his long standing Mistress (1912-1930ish was Jewish and was generally regarded as the mother of fascism), look up Marguerite Sarfatti.

*Actually so are Marxists. A lot of Hitler’s ideas can be seen to be directly lifted from Marx’s On the Jewish Question.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 7:55 am

Diogenessays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:51 am
Once more for the dummies…
Fascists are socialists who are nationalist rather than internationalist like the communists. They are chauvinist rather than racist, ie if you were a citizen, regardless of race, colour or creed, you had full rights.

A woman can be a man, a man can be a women, a fascist is whoever I call a fascist.

This is the brave new world.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 7:58 am

Diogenes

One of my most emotional times while on vacation was walking around the Jewish Quarter in Rome. I’d walk past an apartment buildings that had brass plaques on the pavement with the names of people taken away to the gas chambers. It was so visceral as you could see the apartments where these people lived.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:00 am

With reference to the Trump tax cuts, you hear non stop about the income tax cuts benefiting high income earners the most.
High income earners did/do benefit more than low income earners.
Zero doubt.
But the biggest winners were those who sold assets & were able to defer capital gains tax for 10 years if they rolled the gains into a self-certified opportunity zone.
But the donor class ensures repealing the opportunity zone legislation is never on the agenda.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 8:01 am

Fascists are socialists who are nationalist rather than internationalist like the communists.

There were also Communists who were nationalists, as in Romania under Caucescu, for instance.

We need a flow chart.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2022 8:02 am

In Wholly Unexpected Consequences news:

The EV ‘social equity’ dilemma that may put apartment residents off electric cars

The Problem: The difficulty and cost of installing EV charging points in apartment buildings – or on the street, for that matter.

In fact this is the tip of the EV iceberg. In most cities, the electricity distribution system is inadequate to supply the upgraded transformers that will be required to power the chargers, that will be required to meet citizens’ expectations that their EV’s will run when required.

Naturally, this dilemma is being managed with the traditional Australian Three Tiers of Government approach:

Ed Husic’s office said the issue of retrofitting existing apartments is a question for state and territory governments.

State by state, an ad-hoc approach is emerging as the apartment conundrum continues.

Meanwhile the Albanese Government is providing on the spot guidance:

This week, the federal government is releasing a long-awaited issues paper that will outline how it plans to make EVs cheaper so more people buy them.

A hint to the nature of future solutions: Professor Cathy Sherry says ensuring apartment owners have access to EV charging is “a social equity issue”.

So, OPM, thickly distributed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 8:08 am

feelthebernsays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:44 am
UBS put out a decent note on the Inflation Reduction Act last week.
It should be called the How Much Money Can We Shovel Into Wall Street Act.

Sorry, bern, that can’t be true. Our resident political eggspurt, m0nty-fa, is adamant that only the Republicans favour Wall Street. No true DemonRat administration would take the kind of action you describe.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2022 8:10 am

PeterMsays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:04 am
I seem to see that 350.org advertisement running on multiple channels. Apparently, the Morrison Govt. spent $19000 a minute on the fossil fuel industry and Elbow’s October budget has to clean up the mess.

Does anybody understand what they’re on about?

As usual, they count anything and everything to do with exploration, ports, rebates, etc. as “spending”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-26/scott-morrison-climate-change-fossil-fuel-subsidies-net-zero/100094506

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 8:11 am

bespokesays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:47 am
I can’t find enything monty has said being remotely anti-Semitic.

Other than his obsessive belief that anyone involved in banking or finance must be Jewish? A belief that he trots out with depressing regularity?

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 8:11 am

Net Zero is all you ever get from the Uniparty.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 27, 2022 8:12 am

I’d walk past an apartment buildings that had brass plaques on the pavement with the names of people

JC no argument from me on that, however, it is my understanding that Mussolini cooperated unwillingly and the true horrors came after his downfall in the Nazi occupation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:12 am

Four things need to be addressed in the US to ensure some level of equity regarding taxation.
First, carried interest needs to be addressed.
Second, there needs to be limits on the amount that can be put into opportunity zones.
Third, the capacity to run unassociated costs through sporting franchises (similar to the olden days in Oz being loose with your investment property costs).
Fourth, tightening up the laws regarding 501C3’s & 501C4’s (the US NFP sector).

To most, all these four things may as well be in another language.
Which is what the donor class wants.
Fight over income tax rates (the crumbs) while the donor class eat the benefits of society (the pie).

Mater
September 27, 2022 8:13 am

Waiting…

It was delivered with such authority, it must be true!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:15 am

All right. I’ll say it.

The comprehensive injuries inflicted on the woman by a rollercoaster at the Show are unfortunate, but this is not a ‘how could this have happened?’ moment. It’s not as though she had no idea how rollercoasters operate. She worked on one of the nearby stalls herself.

If you are clumsy enough to drop your phone, mid-Insta post, onto the rollercoaster tracks – just fucking leave it there until you are 100% sure that the next one isn’t going to turn up at 70kph, smack you in the face and then drag you 30-odd feet in the air before dropping you back on the deck.

What did she think – that someone else would see it on the tracks from a following carriage, reach down and scoop it up?

I’m not sure if she made a conscious choice to turn that part of her life into a Road Runner cartoon while playing the part of Wile. E. Coyote, but that’s how it panned out.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 8:16 am

Fentanyl kills poor people.
So the establishment doesn’t care about fentanyl.

They will when perps panic and dump them down the lavatory.
Especially with those decrepit water treatment plants in blue states.
ODing on tap water or lettuce could become a thing, especially as nitazenes are increasingly being mixed into other street drugs.

Experts say new street drug is ‘as deadly as fentanyl’ (MedXpress, 16 Sep)

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 8:17 am

A mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor of a Honda when he spotted a well-known cardiologist in his shop. The cardiologist was there waiting for the service manager to come and take a look at his car when the mechanic shouted across the garage “Hey Doc, want to take a look at this?” The cardiologist, a bit surprised, walked over to where the mechanic was working on the Honda. The mechanic straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked “So Doc, look at this engine. I opened its heart, took the valves out, repaired or replaced anything damaged, and then put everything back in, and when I finished, it worked just like new. So how is it that I make $24,000 a year and you make $1.7M when you and I are doing basically the same work?” The cardiologist paused, leaned over, and then whispered to the mechanic… “Try doing it with the engine running!”

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 8:17 am

The Orthodox Times reports that shortly after the recent mobilisation orders Russian Patriarch Kyrill said that Russian solders who die on the battlefield will have their sins forgiven:

“…the Church realizes that if someone, driven by a sense of duty and the need to fulfill his oath… goes to do what he is called to do and if someone dies in the performance of that duty, then he has undoubtedly committed something that amounts to a sacrifice. He will have sacrificed himself for others. And therefore, we believe that this sacrifice washes away all the sins committed by such a man.”

This is sub-Christian teaching, but at least he didn’t promise them 72 dark-eyed virgins.

Mater
September 27, 2022 8:19 am

Blackball,
Hold off on that toast!

I’m waiting for clarification.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 27, 2022 8:19 am

No matter how good or important the vido is, I doubt more than 1% of people are going to watch a 2 hour program in the hope of 10 minutes of worthwhile content

woohoo! I’m in the 1% again!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 8:21 am

Just heard a long interview with Optus CEO Kelly Bayer Rosmarin.
She sounded like a junior staffer running through talking points provided by the boss that she doesn’t quite understand.
Clearly an ineffectual diversity pick who will give no comfort to customers that have had their personal information stolen and face years of exposure to bad actors.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:26 am

Fun fact, if you are an Australian & own a stake in a US sporting franchise you win two ways.
Part one, you can run unassociated costs through the franchise.
This makes the entity even more of a loss maker.
This can offset your other US taxes.
Part two, under the US/Australian tax treaties some aspects of your US investment universe can offset some aspects of your Australian investment universe.

Meaning, there could be a situation where Australian tax payers are subsidising the private jet usage that an Australian billionaire was running through the sporting franchise.

But sure, let’s argue about income tax rates here in Oz.
Seriously.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:26 am

I think you are right Diogenes, Mussolini conscripted Roman Jews to work on projects like building embankment on the Tiber but it was when the Germans took over the screws really tightened, first with a demand for a huge quantity of gold and then the round ups.
I’ve visited the Shoah museum in Rome a couple of times, I always have to walk through that quarter down between the Palace and the Circus, there was a special exhibition under the wedding cake one year too on the families who were deported.
There is a wall plaque on the police building, not far from the Vatican on the old road on the Trastevere side parallel with the Tiber where the people rounded up where held before being sent to the extermination camps.
And there are quite a few of those little plaques in the cobblestones around Trastevere too, I can’t help but look out for them.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 27, 2022 8:27 am

Please stick that shit in my arm, the gumint said it’s good for me……………………..

FDA unearths a minefield of quality issues at the contractor manufacturing Moderna’s jabs—that’s a product recall if ever there was one…

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/fda-unearths-a-minefield-of-quality-issues-at-the-contractor-manufacturing-modernas-jabsthats-a-product-recall-if-ever-there-was-one…-0bac0696

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 8:28 am

“I have had a death in the family. I have been hit for six.”

I’m sorry to hear Dot, take care and stay strong.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2022 8:28 am

minsays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:01 am
I live in a luxury retirement apartment where owners demanded $60,000 from me as well as other apartment owners to replace cladding.. The little old ladies sone with early dementia , signed up after being told we’ll burn down like Grenfell and other intimidating ,fear mongering tactics
As well we will be up for costs to fix leaks , on going since building opened ,2008, as it is claimed they can’t be fixed without removing cladding. True water tanking problems . A group of us got legal advice but can’t afford ongoing legal costs . HELP any ideas of whom to approach apart from media to expose what has happened ?

min – what state?

Vic has legislated that cladding must be addressed, for example – so it may not be the LOA factor.

‘addressed’ does not always mean replaced; for example, fire detectors may be acceptable.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 8:30 am

It’s ABC.
Inner city EV owners whinging that apartment owners won’t provide charging outlets for residents cars.
One effete climate warrior thought it would cost about $2,000 for a set up. The chances that a connection from mains with sized up wiring and circuit breakers would only cost that are bugger all.

bespoke
bespoke
September 27, 2022 8:30 am

Other than his obsessive belief that anyone involved in banking or finance must be Jewish

Don’t recall eny of that.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:32 am

What Optus have not done is tell customers what to do to safeguard themselves. I’m going to switch my contact email from my optusnet one to my Gmail for my bank and share accounts. But what else?
It’s not going to go away.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 8:34 am

Big_Nambassays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:27 am
Please stick that shit in my arm, the gumint said it’s good for me……………………..

FDA unearths a minefield of quality issues at the contractor manufacturing Moderna’s jabs—that’s a product recall if ever there was one…

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/fda-unearths-a-minefield-of-quality-issues-at-the-contractor-manufacturing-modernas-jabsthats-a-product-recall-if-ever-there-was-one…-0bac0696

Murderna must pay compensation to everyone who took their clot shot.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:34 am

There’s a cladding authority in Victoria. Maybe you could ring them?
Cladding Safety Victoria

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:36 am

I thought Monty was trying to imply Meloni was the new Mussolinihitler blaming the usual suspects for Italy’s economic woes.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 8:37 am

Britain Canceling its Outstanding Paper Money

From Martin Armstrong –

“One of the reasons why the US dollar remains the reserve currency is because it has NEVER been canceled. Europe routinely cancels coins and banknotes to prevent people from hiding cash. Britain is canceling the outstanding old paper banknotes of the 20 and 50-pound notes. They did issue polymer notes which are still valid – for now. This is how Europe will also force Digital Currency by eventually canceling all paper money forcing the underground economy to seek other methods.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/britain/britain-canceling-its-outstanding-paper-money/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 8:41 am

Pol Pot was the origin of the WEF – You will own nothing and be happy.

Didnt quite work out the first time.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 8:42 am

Mussolini’s mistress for many years, a fellow early fascist, was a Italian Jewish woman named Margherita Sarfatti. Margherita, even after the war, never denounced Mussolini.

The truth is that Mussolini never had any time for the German’s stupid racial laws however he ended up acquiescing to Germany and the Manifesto of Race was enacted in 1938. In a catastrophic move, he sold his soul to the devil. Why? No doubt for military help and other assistance. However, prior to 1938 the fascist government’s politics were not anti-Semitic, and fascist party membership was open to Jews, in fact many leading early fascists were Jews, because, as with Benito Mussolini himself, they had been socialists and communists. Every single original member of the Fascist Party had been a communist or socialist.

Italians are the least anti-Semitic people in Europe.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 8:42 am

“Gutless conservatives will destroy Australia” – Nigel Farage arrives in Sydney.

From Michael Smith News Blog –

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/09/gutless-conservatives-will-destroy-australia-nigel-farage-arrives-in-sydney.html

bespoke
bespoke
September 27, 2022 8:42 am

But what else?

Only use debit cards for online transactions.
Use a different and randomly generated password for everything.
Get a router that has better security then one given by your ISP.
Small travel routers are cheep.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 8:44 am

Condolences, Dot.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:44 am

If anyone thinks my tax gripes are anti capitalist, they’re not.
The ones I’ve raised above are only accessible to the donor class.
That’s the gripe.

If you turned 20k into 500k over the past 10 years by buying Apple in your smsf & are now in pension phase, not paying tax on it, great.
More of that.
But the moat the donor class put around their stuff while the fights are over income tax rates & increasing taxes on super should be seen for what they are.
A total scam.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:46 am

Make that about 15 years.
Buying apple during & just after the GFC was a sweet, sweet move.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2022 8:47 am

We should stop all Covid vaccinations says UK Cardiac Surgeon who once promoted them

Blockbuster Review papers like this are very useful to pass on to your doctor or officials. And until all patients get some synopsis of this or equivalent, there is no informed consent.

As Dr Aseem Malhotra says: “It’s perhaps the most important work of my career so far…”

The great thing is that he is speaking at medical conferences in the UK, and senior doctors are astonished. There is hope that things may yet improve after the worst medical experiment in history.

The figures that hit the hardest are that for the young, thousands of people need to be vaccinated to save one life, yet in the UK 1 in 120 people suffer from something defined as more than mild effects, and in Norway 1 in 1,000 end up in hospital or with “life changing” effects.

Dr Malhotra was the cardiac specialist I wrote about in November last year, who put forward the first very convincing case I had seen that not only were cardiac inflammatory risk factors doubled after vaccination (Gundry et al) would might double the risk of heart attacks, but that reports and images of cardiac damage and an increase in heart attacks in the UK were being actively suppressed for fear that the researchers would lose grant money if they published them.

Yet he had started off supporting the mRNA vaccines. In January 2021 he was one of the first to get the Pfizer vaccine in the UK, and was interviewed on Good Morning Britain to promote the vaccine. It was only after his father died unexpected from a heart attack in July 2021, with inexplicable levels of blockages, that he started to change his mind. Despite being a cardiac specialist, and yet he could not explain his fathers death. It didn’t fit the risk patterns he knew. It would take him months of investigation to “slowly and reluctantly” conclude the vaccines were “far from being safe and effective”. His father, by the way, was Dr Kailash Chand OBE, 73, and former deputy chair of the British Medical Association (BMA). He was very fit and healthy until his sudden death in the months following his second Pfizer dose.

This week Dr Malhotra has published a full review of the known risks and benefits, and the numbers are damning. Even in people in their 80s, as many as 230 people people need to be vaccinated to prevent one death — and that was with the Delta variant during 2021, when vaccines were more useful and before the Omicron variant arose to escape them. For people in their fifties, at least 2,600 of the cohort would have to vaccinated to save one life. For those in their twenties, at least 93,000 would need an injection to save one. In 2022 with Omicron, all these number would be much higher.

And this of course is not to count the risks, just the benefits.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 27, 2022 8:48 am

Get a router that has better security then one given by your ISP.

I’m one of those.

ISP: “We cannot offer you any support unless you use our router, so that we may access your network.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2022 8:49 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:42 am
Mussolini’s mistress for many years, a fellow early fascist, was a Italian Jewish woman named Margherita Sarfatti. Margherita, even after the war, never denounced Mussolini.

Italians are the least anti-Semitic people in Europe.

As an Italian – Thanks Cassie

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 8:49 am

Tax venting over.
Have a nice day.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:50 am

According to UK finance those obsolete notes can ‘always be exchanged by the Bank of England or can be paid into accounts at UK banks and the Post Office’ so they won’t ever lose their face value.
The US has a lot of obsolete bank notes and coins too, still legal tender but good luck paying for your Maccas with a $100,000 dollar note.
A few years ago I gave my daughter some US coins I’d been given to take on her trip, there were a couple of US fifty cent coins, cashier didn’t believe they were real but they were, haven’t been produced since 2002 for general circulation. (Though I see they started producing them again in 2021.)

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 8:50 am

It’s been cold and wet.
We’ve had one day in September that just crept over twenty degrees and none forecast for the rest of month.
75mm of rain.
KD’s ancestral fiefdom have just had another quick 15mm in the past couple of hours.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 8:55 am

I count maybe two three days of spring so far in Melbourne.
Climate changy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 8:56 am

Albo’s brainfart about teaching children the history of “Colonial massacres” over on the OZ, has just over eight hundred comments – very few – about five – support the idea..

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 8:57 am

Examples from the previous page of m0nty-fa showing respect for women in politics.

“Melons … Melonpasta … Melonblonde … ”

Maybe it is the strangled sputterings of his libido.

Perhaps she gives him aching melonballs.

Tom
Tom
September 27, 2022 8:59 am

75mm of rain.

I’m guessing Victorian rainfall since the turn of the century, including the drought in the first decade, is still below average. We’re still catching to our average.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 27, 2022 9:03 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
September 27, 2022 9:03 am

Despite being a cardiac specialist, and yet he could not explain his fathers death. It didn’t fit the risk patterns he knew.

Part of the problem there is that the ‘risk factors’ which all doctors ‘know’ are false – cholesterol in particular has NO relation to heart disease.

If you want to know if you actually have any real coronary disease, get a calcium scan.

Calcium scans visualise actual coronary disease, NOT predicted disease based on counterfeit risk factors.

Why don’t the Drs know that, and why do they keep ‘treating’ risk factors when no actual disease is present? They do it because they are taught to do it and they are taught to do it because it means big pharma can sell you drugs for life.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 9:03 am

Speaking of indigenous people, I am fascinated with how well documented the migrations of native Americans are.
We’re talking about almost five hundred years of contemporaneous works for some regions of the US.
It puts the religion of peace to shame.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2022 9:04 am

Russian Patriarch Kyrill said that Russian solders who die on the battlefield will have their sins forgiven:

That’s not just sub-Christian, it’s positively medieval and ranks right up there with the divine right of Kings and sin eating.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2022 9:06 am

For People with Paving and Brick Walls a cheap alternative to Wet & Forget

Quick update one year on. Fantastic result using my home made mix. Pavers all looking like new again. Not a quick fix but a cheap, easy and effective one.

My Mix: Add 1 Tablespoon of washing soda to a 10L water can and fill with water. Stir in 200ml of Green Blaster Algaecide (Bunnings $16). Apply lightly (to minimize run-off) over 20-25 sq meters. Let that sit for 10 minutes and repeat. That’s it. Sit back and watch your pavers self clean over the next 12 months. Brilliant. Works out to less than $20 per 100 sq meters and beats the hell out of pressure spraying.

I have modified after trial and error using in 8l Sprayer – 2l Liquid Pool Chlorine (15l Pool Centre Brookvale $11.95) – 200Ml Green Blaster Algaecide Bunnings (2l $25.87) and tablespoon of Sodium Carbonate (Hy-Clor 2.5kg Soda Ash pH Increaser Soft Pack – $18.98) – works extremely well

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 9:07 am

“Russian Patriarch Kyrill said that Russian solders who die on the battlefield will have their sins forgiven”
He can say it, won’t make it so.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 27, 2022 9:13 am

news.com.au continues its noble mission to educate its presumably know-nothing audience:

Reason one for the unprecedented collapse in the pound is the world is becoming more dangerous, financially speaking. Recession talk is in the air, as central banks try to slow down their economies to stop inflation from getting any higher. When recessions happen, investors like to move their money into safe investments. And the safest investment is US bonds. They call it a safe haven.

To buy US bonds you need to have US dollars, so investors need to buy US dollars on the currency markets. The extra demand makes the US dollar go up, just like extra demand for any product makes the price go up. (The effect is exacerbated by currency traders trying to get ahead of the game, buying USD in the expectation that bond traders will soon need to do the same.)

(…)

These tax cuts have become known as the “stage three tax cuts.” They are an old idea, brought in by the Turnbull government in its 2018-19 budget under then-Treasurer Scott Morrison.

The tax cuts were supposed to be rolled out over the following seven years, but we don’t have to stick to that plan – the world has changed quite a bit since 2018. For one thing, inflation is now the enemy. When the government cuts taxes it encourages spending, and spending makes businesses put up prices, creating inflation. We don’t need more of that right now!

LOL wtf? They actually write like that?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:15 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:17 am
You traitorous fucks.

Disgusting.

Talking about geopolitics, cross-border finance and wog women while your country is being destroyed. I’m going to have a hearty Aussie dinky-di schnitzel and a sausage roll, and then I’m going to write a protest song.

Get fucked, you Nazi pass COWard!

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 27, 2022 9:17 am

BTW, spending doesn’t create inflation. Just a quick fyi for ya, dumb scribbler.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 9:17 am

We don’t need more of that right now

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 9:18 am

Too slow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 9:18 am

This has to be satire, surely

Surber says it is a parody account. Nice Beeish satire though.

Italy elects first woman PM. Misogynist media hates her (26 Sep)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 9:19 am

Russian Patriarch Kyrill said that Russian solders

Down with the Patriarchy!

And down with the electronics industry! (Plumbers too – they solder, don’t they?)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:19 am

Oh, that was remiss of me.
Ahem … Mr Dragger, I am in disagreement with the sentiments you express.
Accordingly, I invite you attend the Duelling Thread such that we may settle this matter as honourable gentlemen.

m0nty
September 27, 2022 9:24 am

Thank you, bespoke.

As for Italian fascists, they were always the useful idiots of Axis. Or perhaps useless idiots, given their military performances. They never did get the trains running on time either.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:25 am

Oh come on says:
September 27, 2022 at 9:17 am
BTW, spending doesn’t create inflation. Just a quick fyi for ya, dumb scribbler.

Depends oco. Depends how they’re financed and depends on the economic setting of the time. UK tax cuts are likely to be set off by the Old Lady (central bank) setting off the cuts through a relatively tighter monetary policy than before.

shatterzzz
September 27, 2022 9:27 am

A few years ago I gave my daughter some US coins I’d been given to take on her trip, there were a couple of US fifty cent coins, cashier didn’t believe they were real

My last trip home to County Durham, Englamd, 2018, most shops wouldn’t accept 20 pound notes .. too many counterfeits floating around ..

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:30 am

Tell you what, mater. Post the apology I’m owed when you misled people about how the flu is counted and then we proceed.

Your own link contradicted your account .
I think that’s a fair deal.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2022 9:35 am

HELP any ideas of whom to approach apart from media to expose what has happened ?

min

What you describe frankly sounds like extortion.

As a rule, the property manager/owner is responsible for ensuring the property is safe, fit to live in, and in a good state of repair. The tenant/resident is responsible for keeping it clean and free from damage, such as accidentally breaking a window.

Seeking assistance from your local council would seem an appropriate first step (and I wouldn’t completely discard the idea of taking it to the press if that proves necessary to get action).

This QLD Govt page may be of use to guide your options or give you a reference to search your own State’s pages.

min
min
September 27, 2022 9:36 am

Thanks all for replying here is what we have done
Independent living in Victoria not classed as aged care although since change in government rulings people remaining in own homes rather than nursing homes we have owmers here with carers.
Strata titled with sprinklers fire risk moderate although with owners immobile enough to not be able to use stairs and confused dementia think of all of these waiting to be rescued by firemen .
One lawyer told us to sue Builder re faults re flashings leaks black mould .
Another VCat with a barrister as owner will pull out all stops so he doesn’ t have to pay . VCat also recommended by Cosumer Affairs
BAck to you Thanks. intimidation fear mongering , lies told by Chsir of OC to control outcome.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 9:40 am

FMD.
DON’T TOUCH IT.

NEWS ALERT
NASA’s DART Spacecraft Slams Into Asteroid in Effort to Alter Its Orbit
An uncrewed spacecraft smashed into an asteroid in an effort to deflect the distant space rock, the dramatic climax of a National Aeronautics and Space Administration mission to test whether the technique could one day be used to protect Earth. The mission is known as the Double Asteroid Redirection Test.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 9:40 am

Italian fascists were idiots says twinkle toes.
Considering Mussolini was an academic and Hitler was a failed art student, some with a vague knowledge of history would beg to differ.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 9:41 am

Get fucked, you Nazi pass COWard!

You are on the wrong ‘Fred’ for that sort of comment – DELETE BUTTON for U

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2022 9:42 am

Nice work!

NASA’s DART spaceship this morning (AEST) struck the moonlet asteroid Dimorphos, in a historic test of humanity’s ability to prevent a cosmic object devastating life on Earth.

“Impact confirmed for the world’s first planetary defense test mission,” said a graphic on the space agency’s livestream, as engineers and scientists erupted in cheers.

At 9.15 Tuesday AEST the DART spacecraft, travelling more than 24,000 km/h, smashed into Dimorphos, an asteroid about the size of one of the Egyptian pyramids more than 11 million kilometres away.

The collision is the first attempt by NASA scientists, indeed humanity, to redirect the path of an asteroid in case scientists ever find one of the giant cosmic rocks hurtling toward Earth.

NASA live-streamed the impact using imagery from a camera aboard the spacecraft. The craft was instantaneously destroyed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:43 am

Ah, yes, Rotten.
Spends all day recycling Dave Allen and Benny Hill, but doesn’t recognise a none-too-subtle joke when it hits him between the eyes.
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. Lol!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:45 am

Top Endersays:

September 27, 2022 at 9:42 am

Nice work!

NASA’s DART spaceship this morning (AEST) struck the moonlet asteroid Dimorphos, in a historic test of humanity’s ability to prevent a cosmic object devastating life on Earth.

Which will be used by all EOTW prophets to explain why their most recent prediction of Armageddon didn’t come to pass.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 9:46 am

An 85-year-old man wanted to spice up his marriage. He went to a lingerie shop to get a sexy lingerie for his 80-year-old wife. He got an expensive one and went home. Later that night he gave it to his wife and told her to put it on. She went to the bathroom to put it on and found out that it was too small for her. She thought “He does not have a great eyesight. I will go naked and he would not even know”. So she entered the bedroom naked. Her husband looked at her, squinting his eyes and muttered “Well, for the price I paid, they could have at least ironed it”.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 9:47 am

If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.

– Albert Einstein

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2022 9:48 am

Farmer Gezsays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:30 am
It’s ABC.
Inner city EV owners whinging that apartment owners won’t provide charging outlets for residents cars.

Correction – it would have to be *renting* inner-city EV owners.

If they owned their apartment, then they can use their vote in the strata to get outlets provided.

Of course that would involve spending their own money, not OP’s money.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2022 9:53 am

Lithium resource squeeze could put the brakes on decarbonization

“As the EV revolution speeds up, and big battery projects ramp up to stabilize power grids running on intermittent renewables, global demand for lithium batteries will rise sixfold in the next 10 years. But can the world actually supply the materials?”

Well duh. That issue was pointed out to the renewables cabal decades ago and numerous times since. Sucks when reality interferes with a good scam.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 9:54 am

THE STORY OF THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

The end.

THE MODERN AUSTRALIAN VERSION
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate like him are cold and starving. The ABC and Channel 9 show up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper, with cuts to a video of the ant in his comfortable warm home with a table filled with food.

Australians are stunned that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so while others have plenty. The Democrats, the Greens and the Coalition Against Poverty demonstrate in front of the ant’s house.

The ABC, interrupting an Aboriginal cultural festival special from North Queensland with breaking news, broadcasts them singing “We Shall Overcome”.

The Green’s rant that the ant has gotten rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his “fair share”.

In response to polls, the Liberal Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti-Discrimination Act, retrospective to the beginning of the summer. It is quickly passed in to law.

The ant’s taxes are reassessed and he is also fined for failing to hire grass hoppers as helpers. Without enough money to pay both the fine and his newly imposed retrospective taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

The ant moves to Bali, and starts a successful restaurant.

The TV stations later show the now fat grasshopper finishing up the last of the ant’s food though Spring is still months away, while the government owned house he is in, which just happens to be the ant’s old house crumbles around him because he hadn’t maintained it.

Inadequate government funding is blamed, Kevin Rudd is appointed to head a special inquiry that will cost $10,000,000. The grasshopper is soon dead of a drug overdose, the Sydney Morning Herald blames it on obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity.

The abandoned house is taken over by a gang of immigrant spiders, praised by the government for enriching Australia’s multicultural diversity, who promptly terrorise the community.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 9:54 am

Renting inner city apartments makes good sense. I was paying $400 wk years ago. I think the strata fees were around $100 wk. Not sure what it would be today.

Mater
September 27, 2022 9:55 am

Tell you what, mater. Post the apology I’m owed when you misled people about how the flu is counted and then we proceed.

Tell you what, JC. How about you post a link to said conversation, so we can verify you’re not making it up like the Gluten scare you created. I’d be interested to review this supposed victory of yours.

Or did you self ‘Report’ that conversation into the forgettery, too?

Delta A
Delta A
September 27, 2022 9:57 am

Sincere condolences, Dot.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 9:57 am

Mater, wasn’t it Ed Case that first raised the gluten/indigenous people issue?
Or is this a different stoush?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2022 10:02 am

President Trump Warned Us About Biden: “If He’s Elected, the Stock Market Will Crash”

President Trump warned us about Joe Biden. The 45th President shared that if Biden were in power the markets would crash. Well…

President Trump seems to always be right. If not today, give it some time.

In the 2020 debates, President Trump warned the US that if Biden were elected, the markets would tumble.

Mater
September 27, 2022 10:05 am

Mater, wasn’t it Ed Case that first raised the gluten/indigenous people issue?
Or is this a different stoush?

As the knower of all things, JC came in over top to declare it to be an undeniable fact.
He and Ed make great allies. They should tag team more often.

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2022/09/24/open-thread-weekend-24-sept-2022/comment-page-5/#comment-340094

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2022 10:05 am

Surber says it is a parody account. Nice Beeish satire though.

Nice line from Surber

Hillary was the Duchess of these Doormats

Mater
September 27, 2022 10:06 am

The fact is, he can’t tell the difference between lactose and gluten.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 10:08 am

Understood.
I’ll leave you two fine gentlemen to it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2022 10:10 am

The new leader of Italy is a conservative woman who loves God, her family, and her country. She shared her thoughts in early 2020 at an event in Rome.

Another video of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is making rounds online which has received 9.3 million views in just 14 hours and was praised by conservatives including Ted Cruz.

Here’s why the elites and globalists are freaking out about Giorgia Meloni’s victory in Italy’s elections last night, below is the transcript:

Why is the family an enemy? Why is the family so frightening? There is a single answer to all these questions. Because it defines us. Because it is our identity. Because everything that defines us is now an enemy for those who would like us to no longer have an identity and to simply be perfect consumer slaves.

And so they attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity. I can’t define myself as: Italian, Christian, woman, mother. No. I must be citizen x, gender x, parent 1, parent 2. I must be a number. Because when I am only a number, when I no longer have an identity or roots, then I will be the perfect slave at the mercy of financial speculators.

The perfect consumer…[But] we will defend it.

We will defend God, country, and family. Those things that disgust people so much. We will do it to defend our freedom. Because we will never be slaves and simple consumers at the mercy of financial speculators.

That is our mission. That is why I came here today. Chesterton wrote, more than a century ago. .. “Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.” That time has arrived. We are ready.

Just for Monty

Dinesh D’Souza
@DineshDSouza

Here’s what Giorgia Meloni says at campaign rallies. “I am Giorgia. I am a woman. I am a mother. I am Italian, I am Christian. You will not take that away from me!” For this, the Left calls her a fascist and an heir to Mussolini. Italians don’t believe it, and we shouldn’t either

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 10:10 am

Okay , so apology then and rather than talking to me he tries to persuade the audience. Great.

I said, recognise your mistake and I’m happy to post comments later as I’m “engaged”.

And stop it with the childish hissy fits. I thought you were better than that.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 10:11 am

Nice Speech. Now to see the Words being put into Actions. This could well be a lot of Fun to follow. The WEF and EU are now finally on the Run. Push Back is here………………………………

https://twitter.com/i/status/1574251105940377607

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2022 10:11 am

People getting their hopes up over Meloni will be as sorely disappointed as those who thought Kavanaugh would be a conservative.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 10:14 am

My last trip home to County Durham, Englamd, 2018, most shops wouldn’t accept 20 pound notes .. too many counterfeits floating around ..

Heading home from town yesterday I had a craving for a cheeseburger – it happens from time to time – so I pulled into McDonald’s drive through. Sign at the cashier’s station stating ‘Counterfeit note detector in use.’

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 10:14 am

There are two types of people in the world. People JC wants to talk to him and people JC doesn’t want to talk to him.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 10:17 am

Roger, did you have a counterfeit food detector in use? Mickey Ds hash browns are good though.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2022 10:18 am

Mater, wasn’t it Ed Case that first raised the gluten/indigenous people issue?
Or is this a different stoush?

what is coeliac disease

Coeliac disease affects caucasians and west Asians. It is uncommon in the Oriental Asian and full-blood Australian Aboriginal populations.

Oh.. and Immune dysfunction in Australian Aborigines

In contrast various autoimmune disorders (e.g. .. coeliac disease …), … appear infrequent or absent

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 10:25 am

“People getting their hopes up over Meloni will be as sorely disappointed as those who thought Kavanaugh would be a conservative.”

True, on GB News overnight, Neil Oliver has said the same thing. Meloni will be judged on her deeds. I think she needs to follow the likes of Orban.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:25 am

Matersays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:06 am

The fact is, he can’t tell the difference between lactose and gluten.

The most heinous of crimes.
🙂

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 27, 2022 10:26 am

People getting their hopes up over Meloni will be as sorely disappointed as those who thought Kavanaugh would be a conservative.

Agreed. Let’s see what happens when the rubber hits the road.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:29 am

Dover.
Can we have a separate Gluten vs Lactose thread?
It won’t cost much. We could just give the old Trucks vs Trains thread a fresh coat of paint. No-one is using that one.
And maybe a separate Carry On Joking thread as well.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 10:29 am

People getting their hopes up over Meloni will be as sorely disappointed

Possibly. But I don’t think the Kavanagh comparison quite valid. He had not particularly espoused any intention of policy – he was favoured because he had a history of black letter law, rather than fantasies about ‘living documents’. That and the fact that the Democrat tactics were so execrable and savage.

Meloni, on the other hand, will have had to hold her nerve throughout a more vicious campaign, with attacks coming in from not only Italy, but the rest of the EU. You need no small amount of backbone to put up with that, especially while having to reassure her family that she should stay the course.

She might turn out to be a damp squib in office. She may have a savant gift for speeches and interviews but easily unnerved when confronted by the nitty-gritty.

But at the same time, if there is such a thing as a politician with convictions and courage, how else would you expect them to speak other than what was quoted above?

She may yet be the real deal.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 10:30 am

There are two types of people in the world. People JC wants to talk to him and people JC doesn’t want to talk to him.

Why waste time time with imbeciles, Bear. That’s a better descriptor. It worked well in my Corp life and beyond.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 10:31 am

The fact is, he can’t tell the difference between lactose and gluten.

A real problem if you have a coffee and toast for breakfast. How does Groogs manage?

m0nty
September 27, 2022 10:36 am

What sin has Kavanaugh committed in your eyes?

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 10:38 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:56 am
Albo’s brainfart

‘Albo’ is a brain fart.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 10:40 am

“Meloni, on the other hand, will have had to hold her nerve throughout a more vicious campaign, with attacks coming in from not only Italy, but the rest of the EU. You need no small amount of backbone to put up with that, especially while having to reassure her family that she should stay the course.”

Yep…Georgia will need to take advice from Victor Orban. He’s been the victim of a smear campaign for years and yet it hasn’t dampered Hungarian enthusiasm for him. He keeps on winning elections, despite foreign interference (the left doesn’t mind some foreign interference in elections…but only when it suits them). So, why does Orban keep winning elections? Because of his deeds, not his words. There’s a clear lesson there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:42 am

At the risk of getting in the middle of the gluten wars ….
There are clearly physiological differences between Aboriginals and Europeans as far as some susceptibility to disease goes.
Aboriginals are far more susceptible to type 2 diabetes, for example.
If and how diet plays into this I don’t know, but some develop it very early in life, relative to Europeans, and the impacts seem to be far more debilitating.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 10:43 am

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.

– Albert Einstein

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 10:45 am

Roger, did you have a counterfeit food detector in use? Mickey Ds hash browns are good though.

The burger was quite good – actually tasted grilled, slightly smokey; new recipe/cooking method?

I also like their hash browns, Bear – guilty pleasures!

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 10:50 am

The actual burgers were always McDonalds weakest link. The buns and sauces are typically too sweet and gloopy in the American way. The sausage egg McMuffin avoids these problems.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 11:05 am

The actual burgers were always McDonalds weakest link.

Hence the line “The burgers are better at Hungry Jack’s.”

Truth in advertising, just for once!

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 11:05 am

A young couple got married and left for their honeymoon.

When they got back, the bride immediately called her mother.

Her mother asked “How was the honeymoon?” “Oh, mama” she replied “the honeymoon was wonderful! So romantic…!!”

Suddenly she burst out crying. “But, mama, as soon as we returned Sam started using the most horrible language… things I’d never heard before! I mean, all these awful 4 letter words! You’ve got to come get me and take me home…. please mama!”

“Sarah, Sarah” her mother said “calm down! Tell me, what could be so awful? What 4-letter words?” “Please don’t make me tell you, mama” wept the daughter “I’m so embarrassed they’re just too awful! Come get me, please!”

“Darling, baby, you must tell me what has you so upset… tell your mother these horrible 4-letter words!” Still sobbing, the bride said “Oh, mama…words like DUST, WASH, IRON, COOK…!”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 11:06 am

Johnny Rottensays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:43 am

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.

– Albert Einstein

Does Albert know you are doing this?

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 11:08 am

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its trousers on.

– Winston Churchill

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 11:09 am

Via Instapundit comes an awesome Monty-squishing thread on Il Duce Meloni:

Tom Elliott rains inconvenient truths on all the media libs screeching that new conservative Italian PM Georgia Meloni is the new Mussolini (Twitchy, 26 Sep)

Lots of fine inconvenient history goodness!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 11:12 am

I got a girl named Giorgia Meloni.
She’s as skinny as a stick of egg noodle.

– Sun Tzu

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 11:13 am

While taxiing at London’s Gatwick Airport, the crew of a US Air flight departing for Ft. Lauderdale made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 727.

An irate female ground controller lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming: “US Air 2771, where the hell are you going?! I told you to turn right onto Charlie taxiway! You turned right on Delta! Stop right there. I know it’s difficult for you to tell the difference between C and D, but get it right!”

Continuing her rage to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting hysterically “God! Now you’ve screwed everything up! It’ll take forever to sort this out! You stay right there and don’t move till I tell you to! You can expect progressive taxi instructions in about half an hour, and I want you to go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you! You got that, US Air 2771?”

“Yes, ma’am” the humbled crew responded.

Naturally, the ground control communications frequency fell terribly silent after the verbal bashing of US Air 2771. Nobody wanted to chance engaging the irate ground controller in her current state of mind. Tension in every cockpit out around Gatwick was definitely running high.

Just then an unknown pilot broke the silence and keyed his microphone, asking “Wasn’t I married to you once?”

shatterzzz
September 27, 2022 11:13 am

Not a bad “freebie” if your a 251 .. qualify for “old age” package(s) from age 50 .. methinx it’s time, us, white folk hounded the gummint for a VOICE ..
Four categories of assistance are offered, based on the level of care required. Annual funding amounts range from around $9000 to more than $53,000.
To qualify, you must be 65 or older (or 50 years and older for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders). The level of care is determined through a My Aged Care assessment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 11:19 am

To qualify, you must be 65 or older (or 50 years and older for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders).

That’s to compensate for the shorter life spans of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders – I kid you not.

local oaf
September 27, 2022 11:32 am

*Actually so are Marxists. A lot of Hitler’s ideas can be seen to be directly lifted from Marx’s On the Jewish Question.

Back in the 70s I went into an Adelaide communist bookshop to see if I could get a copy of that gem of Marx’s writing.
Was served by a pasty faced faux working class kid in bib’n’brace overalls who had never heard of it and tried to tell me no such book existed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 11:32 am

Hence the line “The burgers are better at Hungry Jack’s.”

Truth in advertising, just for once!

Um, no. Proudly and prominently displayed under that slogan at my local shopping centre was a banner for their Vegeburger! It was always fun to see the line of cars at Maccas just across the road and the absence of same at Hungry Jacks. (Amusing too that the Vegeburger, which was called a “Rebel Whopper” to obscure its actual identity, was developed with the help of the CSIRO. You couldn’t make this up.)

The vegeburger was eventually retired to the place where woke ideas go to die, but the banner was up for months and months.

I’m wondering if Joe has provided the sort of Maccas spread to the Atlanta Braves as Trump did for the Clemson Tigers that time.

More likely a choice between vegan potpourri and insect stew.

White House says it wants Atlanta Braves name change… on same day Biden hosts team (26 Sep)

You’d think he’d at least wait one day.

shatterzzz
September 27, 2022 11:32 am

That’s to compensate for the shorter life spans of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders – I kid you not.
I knew that was the excuse but reality is the gummint sets the “old age” qualification (65) and then moves the goalposts for a specified “race” ..
WE is all equal .. except .. LOL!

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 11:32 am

Average life expectancy for Aboriginal Torres Strait Islanders is iirc approximately 17 years less than the rest of us.
Nothing to be envious of.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 27, 2022 11:43 am

Problem with statistics is, if you torture them enough, they’ll tell you what you want to hear.
Extract early infant mortality, adolescent misadventure fatality, assault fatality, the lifestyle disease mortality of booze, drugs, darts and diabetes, and you’ll get a figure representing the life expectancy of First Nationses Australians who have a job and something to live for.
No, I can’t be buggered doing the numbers, but it’s a hunch that it’ll be under a decade, and approaching the seven year male-female differential which has our sociology departments up in arms.
And yes, I realise that proles with a job shouldn’t be needing a pension because superannuation.

rickw
rickw
September 27, 2022 11:44 am

Aboriginals are far more susceptible to type 2 diabetes, for example.

This is also pretty common in Islanders as well. It seems to be related to food scarcity. IIRC it seems to be related to ability to survive a famine, natural ability to turn down metabolism. Down side of surviving the famine is the type 2 susceptibility.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2022 11:45 am

Shocking moment brazen brutes ransack Philadelphia Wawa store as they toss goods into the air, cackle and one TWERKS on a counter

There is another video of that farce shot from the deli counter. One young female is standing there with the maelstrom going on behind her, stuff flying through the air, looters ransacking the shelves, etc.

She looks expectantly at the clerk who is ducking behind the counter to avoid being brained by a some errant missile or shot by some yute and says “Are ya’ll still making sammiches?”

Entitled obliviousness.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2022 11:46 am

Zulu, is that you combatting the animal rights activists:

Tash Peterson later left WA but on Monday returned to the Perth Royal Show and locked herself to a cattle judging ring.

She told her social media followers she joined ‘fellow animal rights activist Aly’ and ‘disrupted the abhorrent ‘Royal’ Agricultural Show’.

Peterson claimed the event ‘glamourises animal slavery, abuse and murder’.

Police have confirmed that both activists have now been charged with trespass and disorderly behaviour in public or in sight or hearing of any person in a public place.

Daily Mail

132andBush
132andBush
September 27, 2022 11:47 am

Sancho Panzer says:
September 27, 2022 at 10:25 am

Matersays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:06 am

The fact is, he can’t tell the difference between lactose and gluten.

The most heinous of crimes.
?

No, that would be pointing out when JC is wrong.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 11:49 am

Farmer Gezsays:
September 27, 2022 at 9:40 am
Italian fascists were idiots says twinkle toes.
Considering Mussolini was an academic and Hitler was a failed art student, some with a vague knowledge of history would beg to differ.

Twinkle toes is capable only of repeating talking points, he was not programmed for independent thought.

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 11:52 am

It may well be lifestyle related, and that includes the problems faced by aboriginal children in remote communities blessed with scabies, worms, gastro, ear infections, malnutrition etc
The only thing I’ve found that is perhaps inbuilt is, in common with most non-westerners, is lactose intolerance.
Doesn’t mean those health issues shouldn’t be addressed.

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2022 11:54 am

He who rises the quickest, falls the hardest.

– Swans Crew –

(let’s not mention the “F word” today)…

Morsie
Morsie
September 27, 2022 11:55 am

Chinese property market.we have no idea how big a bubble it is.
Chinese friend of mine tells me her investment apartment has appreciated 100 times since she bought it not 100 per cent 100 times.
Probably come off a bit but the appreciation has been insane

cohenite
September 27, 2022 11:56 am

Trump promised a lot of things on the campaign trail that were progressive and distributive in nature, and instead handed over his legislative agenda to Mitch McConnell to exclusively enrich billionaires like himself.

From dickless of course; Trump who raised all employment and especially minority employment to all time highs was for the rich. Sure, that’s why silicon valley and every billionaire in the US hates him; because he was for the rich.

Head prefect how the fuck did you break bread with this piece of shit.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 11:56 am

Average life expectancy for Aboriginal Torres Strait Islanders is iirc approximately 17 years less than the rest of us.
Nothing to be envious of.

No, nothing to be envious of, but is it alone a sound rationale for offering indigenous people the OAP at 50 rather than 65 (if that is the case)? People of working age, of whatever race, who cannot work can access the disability pension and associated benefits. Making race a qualifying factor for government benefits is a retrograde step that will only further entrench poverty and dependence among some aboriginal people. Incidentally, it was announced today that a free dental clinic has been established in this area that will see 200 patients per week. The catch is you have to be indigenous to access the treatment. The rest, whatever “race” thay may be, can languish on the public dental hospital waiting list while their teeth fall out.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2022 11:58 am

McDonald’s is facing a $10 billion lawsuit from media mogul Byron Allen, who has accused the fast food giant of failing to advertise with Black-owned media.

Give us money, just because.

Old fashioned shakedowns never went out of taste.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2022 11:59 am

Peterson claimed the event ‘glamourises animal slavery, abuse and murder’.

Oh Billy, if a cow had the chance, it would kill you and everyone you care for.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2022 12:06 pm

The Socialist Economics of Italian Fascism

Mussolini became more vocal in his claims that fascism explicitly rejected the capitalist elements of economic individualism and laissez-faire liberalism.

“The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity.”

Mussolini more a man of the left than of the right

Mussolini was clear on his ideology: “I am and shall remain a socialist and my convictions will never change! They are bred into my very bones.”

… looking at the early fascist program, one can see massive overlaps with a socialist agenda circa early 20th century. Among other things, there was to be a minimum wage, an eight-hour workday, a progressive tax on capital, expropriation of uncultivated lands, and universal suffrage.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 12:11 pm

Zulu, is that you combatting the animal rights activists:

No, I was one of those who fought the battle over mulseing, and the live show trade, but the identity of the bloke who grabbed the silly trollop, in the wedgie from Hell, and threw her over the fence, is an open secret in agricultural circles….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Chinese firm pays off worker with 9st of coins worth £1,320
Didi Tang, Beijing
Monday September 26 2022, 12.00pm BST, The Times

A Chinese company has been rebuked for paying off a sacked worker with £1,300 severance in coins, weighing more than 60kg (9st).

The health management company in the southern city of Changsha was ordered to repay a former employee 10,000 yuan (£1,320) in wages and compensation after it fired her without reason and lost a labour dispute in an arbitration court.

The company, which has not been named by state media, procrastinated in making the payment and its boss directed an employee to go to several banks and take out small change worth 10,000 yuan.

A video released by state media shows row after row of coins — in 1 yuan (13p), 50 fen (6.5p) and 10 fen denominations — when officials arrived at the business this month to enforce the court order.

“It’s true you’ve fulfilled your legal obligations, but the way you did it is not right,” a court official said in the video.

bespoke
bespoke
September 27, 2022 12:21 pm

feelthebernsays:
September 27, 2022 at 10:11 am
People getting their hopes up over Meloni will be as sorely disappointed as those who thought Kavanaugh would be a conservative.

Fare enough.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 12:26 pm

Head prefect how the fuck did you break bread with this piece of shit.

I paid up on a bet, Cronkite. Anyway, I stay away from bread. Gluten is a silent killer.

🙂

Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2022 12:27 pm

New Fred.

m0nty
September 27, 2022 12:27 pm

Zatara’s second link references Reagan, who oversaw a massive increase in government spending, and Thatcher under whom government spending also rose consistently.

Mussolini was more open about his statism, but if you accuse him of being a socialist then so were Reagan and Thatcher.

Italian fascism was an alliance between capital and business. I doubt Melonballs can recreate that sort of system, as she is far more likely to be out of office within a year given the recent history of Italian politics.

The fact that she is an enthusiastic supporter of Ukraine makes things more complicated.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 12:31 pm

Bush

I may have been wrong that gluten is the fault marker. That’s no biggie. I wasn’t wrong about the issue of carbs being at fault though (very likely) with type 2 at 4 times the incidence in the Indig population.

Perhaps you can fact check mater’s assertion that the flu is counted directly and not an estimate as I never heard back other than witnessing a massive hissy fit.

I’ll assume silence proves the point, yea? 🙂

Mater
September 27, 2022 12:51 pm

Perhaps you can fact check mater’s assertion that the flu is counted directly and not an estimate as I never heard back other than witnessing a massive hissy fit.

Perhaps you can link to “mater’s assertion”, and we can take it from there.

Your referencing of previous discussions tends not to be 100% reliable, and what you think was said, does not always represent what was actually said.

I linked to your faux pas, perhaps for the sake of accuracy, you could link to mine?

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 1:10 pm

No, I’m not linking to it champ. I’m sure you can find it as your link made your assertion silly . Y ou obviously didn’t understand it. Flu is an estimate and you suggested it was counted . It’s not.

But let’s back up and have the discussion here and now just like you reverted to the gluten discussion this morning that you dredged up occurring a few days ago. Are the annual flu numbers basically an estimate or hard numbers?

Also, while you’re there can you explain the need for a VPN as I’m confused.

Thanks Mater.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 1:10 pm

New Zealand Prime Minister Calls For A Global Censorship System

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-zealand-prime-minister-calls-global-censorship-system

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 1:12 pm

Mater

Can you get Bush in on it to find where it was discussed as he appears to be a fact checkers fact checker nowadays. 🙂

He’s really good at it.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 1:36 pm

After being nearly snowbound for two weeks last winter, a Seattle man departed for his vacation in Miami Beach, where he was to meet his wife the next day at the conclusion of her business trip to Minneapolis.

They were looking forward to pleasant weather and a nice time together. Unfortunately, there was some sort of mix up at the boarding gate, and the man was told he would have to wait for a later flight. He tried to appeal to a supervisor but was told the airline was not responsible for the problem and it would do no good to complain.

Upon arrival at the hotel the next day, he discovered that Miami Beach was having a heat wave, and its weather was almost as uncomfortably hot as Seattle’s was cold. The desk clerk gave him a message that his wife would arrive as planned. He could hardly wait to get to the pool area to cool off, and quickly sent his wife an e-mail, but due to his haste, he made an error in the email address.

His message therefore arrived at the home of an elderly preacher’s wife whose even older husband had died only the day before!

When the grieving widow opened her email, she took one look at the monitor, let out an anguished scream, and fell to the floor dead. Her family rushed to her room where they saw this message on the screen:

Dearest wife,

Departed yesterday as you know. Just now got checked in. Some confusion at the gate. Appeal was denied. Received confirmation of your arrival tomorrow.

Your loving husband.

P.S. Things are not as we thought. You’re going to be surprised at how hot it is down here.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 1:37 pm

Courage is fire, and bullying is smoke.

– Benjamin Disraeli

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 1:44 pm

The COVID End-Game: It’s Time for Answers

From The Quadrant Online –

“And we all thought Wagner’s The Ring Cycle was overly long! Well, the Great COVID Show still ain’t over yet because the Fat Lady in this opera bouffe is still singing, as she has been for nearly three years now, thus knocking Herr Wagner’s interminable opus into a cocked hat for tedious length. The scolding, histrionic COVID divas from Public Health Central Casting are still bellowing away, despite growing audience fatigue.

Thankfully, however, they are on half-lung power and reduced to reprising ever-feebler versions of the original show’s greatest hits.There are no full-dress lockdown encores in store whilst the continuing medley of mask mandates and vax variations are not quite hitting the heights of the earlier shows. Much of the audience, shifting restlessly in their seats and looking anxiously at their watches, has stopped listening to any of it. The COVID arias about the lethality of footballs and pizza boxes, are now so much white noise.

To the dismay of the impresarios who brought us the original COVID blockbuster, there is no new production clamouring to take its place. Monkeypox (COVID – the Sequel) has been a box-office flop – there is no dramatic death-ticker to keep the audience gripped with tension whilst the casting has failed to generate wider engagement beyond the special interest group found in what the US CDC defines, coyly, as “spaces like back rooms, saunas, sex clubs, or private and public sex parties, where intimate, often anonymous sexual contact with multiple partners occurs”.

The Mask Lives On

Through the relative lull of the full ‘social distancing’ orchestra, however, comes the annoying solo of The Mask, that slightly shop-worn symbol of the political power and ideological dominance of the public health caste. This self-important and ceaselessly self-promoting clique of technocrats who, faster than a democratic debate, more powerful than an elected government and able to leap a clinical trial protocol in a single ‘emergency’ bound, haven’t hesitated to act out their superhero fantasies when given half a chance. The mask remains the most visible reminder that ‘the pandemic is not over’, as the Lord Protectors constantly remind us; thus, their orders must continue to be obeyed without question.”

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/public-health/2022/09/the-covid-end-game-its-time-for-answers/

Mater
September 27, 2022 1:46 pm

Flu is an estimate and you suggested it was counted . It’s not.

Ok, let’s just randomly pick one report from 2018.

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/CA086525758664B4CA25836200807AF9/$File/2018-Season-Summary.pdf

Year to date, there were 48,276 notifications of laboratory confirmed influenza to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS) in 2018, which is less than half of the 5 year average (107,450).

laboratory confirmed influenza

They are the figures I’ve always used.
Can I help you further?

Mater
September 27, 2022 1:50 pm

Also, while you’re there can you explain the need for a VPN as I’m confused.

Talk to your Discord buddy, Sancho.

Sancho Panzer
says:
September 19, 2022 at 9:35 am

I dunno. The quickest method for me got three done in a minute.
If I did it a bit more I could probably do 4-5 minute.?
Not rapid fire. But 30 in ten minutes gets the job done.

Though you won’t find this admission anywhere on the blog (anymore), because it was self ‘reported’ into the forgettery…using a VPN.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 1:51 pm

Anyway, I stay away from bread. Gluten is a silent killer.

Lawsons Settlers Grain is worth the pain.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 1:57 pm

Mater

If you really want let’s go back to the old discussion , I really can’t recall when it was and truly I don’t have the time.

Look, if you want to assume the worst of me then do so. I’m sorry it got to this because I really do like you as a person and known you long enough to make that judgement.

If you really want to get back to the discussion on the flu, see if you have time over the next couple of days as I’d like to go through it. Otherwise let’s leave it as done and won’t discuss it anymore.

Getting back to the gluten issue I made a mistake in thinking type 2 was linked to gluten and it wasn’t . But it is linked to carbs. I didn’t have time to check. Let’s simmer down a little as it’s just a blog.

Mater
September 27, 2022 2:02 pm

You were wrong then, as you are wrong now.

Live with it.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 2:09 pm

Mater

This is a copy from the report you just linked.

No one single system, including notification data, provides the full picture on influenza, because influenza is a common disease and its presenting symptoms are non-specific. The epidemiology of influenza is informed by a number of different systems based in the community, laboratories, primary care and hospitals, as well as official deaths and notifiable diseases data. Throughout the influenza season in Australia these systems are reported in the Australian Influenza Surveillance Report at http://www.health.gov.au/flureport. For further details about information contained in this report please contact the Influenza Surveillance Team

They have to estimate the numbers because of the unknown non-reports and the inability to distinguish between a cold and flu at the GP. They treat the symptoms.

Let’s just call it quits now.

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2022 2:10 pm

Action may not always bring happiness; but there is no happiness without action.

– Benjamin Disraeli

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 2:10 pm

Also

I suspected this was the case because the place totally obsessed with stats ( the US) flu is done on estimates.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 2:12 pm

Mater

I’m not wrong and I’m happy to live with it.

Mater
September 27, 2022 2:16 pm

Let’s just call it quits now.

No, if I’ve only used the laboratory confirmed influenza cases, your bullshit about estimates is irrelevant.

Perhaps read some more Sun Tzu before coming at me again. You are not the smartest person in the room, despite what your alter ego tells you.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 2:19 pm

I doubt Melonballs

m0nty-fa continues to display his contempt for a strong, independent, woman.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 2:23 pm

Mater

Confirmed cases are a portion of the total. The except suggests that as you can see. They can only estimate using stat inference.

And I’m the second smartest person in the room after you of course.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 27, 2022 2:24 pm

McDonald’s is facing a $10 billion lawsuit from media mogul Byron Allen, who has accused the fast food giant of failing to advertise with Black-owned media.

Give us money, just because.

Old fashioned shakedowns never went out of taste.

And if they had advertised in black-owned, and presumably targeted at blacks, advertising, the screeches of “big food targeting blacks, who are already the most obese” would be heard on Mars.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 2:25 pm

PROPAGANDA on the TAXPAYER DOLLAR
26th September 2022
Chris Battle
[excerpts only]
Currently, the SBS documentary series The Australian Wars is being aired on the SBS and NITV channels. The director and presenter of the three-part series is Rachel Perkins, the Aboriginal activist who also directed The First Australians. Perkins has quite mastered the art of the political documentary, also known as propaganda.
This series is a part of what we are being told is a process of “truth telling”, and apparently this process is defined as being whatever an Aboriginal activist says to the non-Aboriginal majority of Australians.
This Leftist political campaign to claim exclusive ownership of the “truth”, and therefore the exclusive right to have their ideology taught in the classroom, the university lecture hall and across the media generally, is being done with a lot of taxpayer money using the agencies and platforms that were created by the Australian government, such as the ABC, SBS and NITV.
We are now witnessing a concerted effort by Aboriginal politico-social activists and their allies on the Left to denigrate and de-legitimise the Commonwealth of Australia and its history, with the ultimate goal being to replace it with a federation of sovereign “First Nation” states.
The subject documentary, The Australian Wars, is an effective propaganda tool (or should we say “weapon”?) deployed towards the goal of recognising and returning the sovereignty of the so-called “First Nations”, and hence the dismantling of the Commonwealth of Australia.
Unfortunately, most conservative politicians appear to be unaware of this threat from the Left.
It would appear that the Left has been the undisputed winner of that public debate known as the “History Wars”, because there is now no questioning or challenging of the mainstream narrative about the historical relations between European settlement and Aboriginal peoples.
The first episode is described as:
‘…….The story of Australia’s first wars, calling for the nation to acknowledge the First Peoples who died in these conflicts and for the Australian War Memorial to recognise them…’
This series has been supported by Screen Australia, a Federal Government agency that supports Australian screen development, production and promotion. Their website describes The Australian Wars as:
‘…….A polemic documentary series that tells the extraordinary story of Australia’s First Wars – and calls for the First Peoples who died in these conflicts to be acknowledged by the nation and officially recognised by the Australian War Memorial in Canberra.
First Wars is a documentary series which investigates the frontier conflicts between 1788 and 1928 and their impact, asks Australians who we are, and what we want to become…..’
But it is Documentary Australia that sets out best the socio-political aspirations and intentions of this new documentary series. I had never heard of Documentary Australia before, and so I informed myself by clicking the “About Us” tab on their website and read:
OUR MISSION AND IMPACT
We connect filmmakers, activists, educators and change-makers and empower them to maximise their advocacy and impact goals.
It is our mission to advance awareness and inspire action on important social issues by supporting independent documentary filmmakers and organisations on the front-lines of social change, and amplifying the impact of their works to encourage empathy, activism and social transformation.
Our expertise, guidance and resources help creatives, not-for-profits, educators and change-makers work together to achieve their goals and maximise their social impact through the power of documentary.
We enable impact documentary projects to raise tax-deductible funding and make it possible for passionate philanthropists to collaborate with filmmakers to tell stories that change lives.
****Those of the Albanese Labor government are only too happy to grab their boards and ride the wave of Aboriginal “truth telling” all the way to constitutional recognition, treaty, republic and the Voice.
****What of the Liberal/National opposition?
They appear to be completely unaware of the threat to Australian democracy and the ultimate integrity of the Australian nation state that is behind the so-called “truth telling” agenda of the Aboriginal activists and their Leftist fellow travellers.
[for more follow this link below]
https://quadrant.org.au/…/propaganda-on-the-taxpayer…/

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