Open Thread – Tues 27 Sept 2022


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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 7:20 pm

‘Aspiring florist’ Michael Slater, again (the Tele):

Former cricketer Michael Slater is reportedly in hospital after being arrested for allegedly breaching bail.

The 52-year-old was arrested at a home on Sydney’s northern beaches on Thursday night after a woman made multiple triple-0 calls, The Australian first reported.

The former opening batter and high profile TV commentator with Channel 7 and Channel 9 is reported to have been taken to a northern beaches police station before being rushed to hospital for a mental health assessment.

Yes I am aware it was the similarly cowardly Andrew O’Keefe who tried the ‘opening a flower shop’ line. But still.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2022 7:21 pm

I’m assuming that this is just “quality journalism”.

Without a doubt.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 7:25 pm

miltonf says:
September 27, 2022 at 7:14 pm

EU will be ‘Vigilant’ Towards Any Threat to Abortion After Italy Election, French PM Threatens- another evil old woman. Why are they so hot on dismembering babies?

You know how I think the Right could totally win the abortion debate. Say that because the burden of childbirth rests sheilas, men will remove themselves from the debate and let the gals decide.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 7:28 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 7:36 pm

Rolfe is a dead duck.

Rolfe is being offered up to placate the woke…

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 7:36 pm

“Matt Thistlethwaite said the Voice was an “important stepping stone” on the way to a referendum on departing the Commonwealth.”

Interesting choice of words, whether intentional or not, all I can say is, bring it on. I’d say that the idea of becoming a republic AND leaving the Commonwealth would be too much to stomach even for the likes of Grand Republican Turdbull and co. As for Thistlethwaite, he’s a complete cretin, a peewee man with peewee brain.

I do hope organisations like Australians for Constitutional Monarchy and other pro monarchy groups make merry with Peewee Thistlethwaite’s slip of the tongue. This is manna from heaven.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 7:37 pm

Rogersays:
September 27, 2022 at 7:05 pm
Birmingham is another in the long line of gutless conservatives.

He’s a Liberal wet, not a conservative; always has been.

I suspect that Dickless is one of his greatest supporters.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 7:41 pm

Is there anything the Australian left doesn’t copy from the American Left?

It’s old

the systemic wacism.

AFL urged to do more to stamp out ‘systemic racism’, following harrowing Hawthorn racism claims

<bl

ockquote>The AFL is being urged to do much more to stamp out what one academic calls “systemic racism”, following a grand final week marred by harrowing claims levelled at the Hawthorn Football Club.
Key points:

Former players, families and academics have called for action, after a review into racism at Hawthorn AFL club was released
Suggestions include Indigenous quotas for club staff, Indigenous programs for players and a league-wide review
One AFL player’s grandmother has praised the model adopted by the Gold Coast Suns

Former players, families and academics are united on the need for broader action, including Indigenous quotas for club staff, Indigenous programs for players and a league-wide review.

Dr Matthew Klugman, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Sport and Health at Victoria University, said the AFL has repeatedly failed to address what he describes as “clearly systemic racism”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 27, 2022 7:47 pm

You know how I think the Right could totally win the abortion debate.

No.
Women [in general] will always vote for abortion and right wing Labor Governments will always keep them in a state of fear that the non Labor side will take it away.
We saw the Liberal Party drop a lotta Sydney Seats over the issue [and other issues] in May.

miltonf
miltonf
September 27, 2022 7:48 pm

Is there anything the Australian left doesn’t copy from the American Left?

Just change names and places. Just look at the stuff that montypox vomits up here. As I’ve said before, the democratic party is a hugh threat to us here in Australia. Just one example- O’bumma sounding off about the Barrier Reef. Just fuck off you poisonous leftie cunt.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 7:51 pm

The mainstream conservatives find themselves in a pickle.

They’ve been telling you for years that Q people are crazy, and anyone who promotes it is a whack-job.

Now Trump has repeatedly, directly, and publicly, promoted Q. Which, according to their logic, makes Trump a whack-job.

Yet they still feverishly support him ?

So is Q fake, therefore making Trump a whack-job? Or is Q “real”?

You cannot believe both simultaneously.

Either Q is real, or Trump is promoting a disinformation psyop.

-Clandestine

HT BioClandestine substack

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 27, 2022 7:52 pm

Rolfey has let his supporters down bigtime
He had to have known that those text messages would show up at an Inquest, so why didn’t he just walk away and get on with his life?

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 27, 2022 7:53 pm

Either Q is real, or Trump is promoting a disinformation psyop.

Did you ever actually believe that Q was real?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 27, 2022 7:56 pm

Cohenite
says:
September 27, 2022 at 7:28 pm

Rolfe is a dead duck.

I really don’t see why police calling offenders in the “communidy” disparaging names should be considered a sin. If I had to put up with what the cops do, I wouldn’t be abusing the shits behind their backs, I’d be telling them to their faces just what kind of arseholes they are.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 7:59 pm

Meloni looks the real deal. So much so skanks like EU’s von der Leyen are threatening her.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 8:01 pm

If I had to put up with what the cops do, I wouldn’t be abusing the shits behind their backs, I’d be telling them to their faces just what kind of arseholes they are.

For shame, you aren’t allowed to be disrespectful to the members of the “First Nations”….

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2022 8:01 pm

But they are planning to build monster offshore windfarms in the path of migrating whales.

One of the issues regarding turbines is noise (both what is audible to us and infrasound).

If the towers for the turbines are in the sea, well the sea water conducts sound vastly better and over far longer distances than air. Add to this that sound is whales’ main interface with the outside world – like light is for us – so sound would be especially disruptive.

miltonf
miltonf
September 27, 2022 8:04 pm

Eurotrash like von der whatsit don’t even pretend anymore

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 8:07 pm

Ed.

Trump is trolling Q. I’ve said I don’t fully understand what the Q posts are all about. Go and read them.

I’ve read about 2800 of them in numerical order just to, sort of, watch.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:09 pm

miltonf says:
September 27, 2022 at 8:04 pm

Eurotrash like von der whatsit don’t even pretend anymore

Italy is the EU’s little bitch. They have too much debt and will have to what the boss says.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve read about 2800 of them in numerical order

Custard deserves some sort of award or recognition for endurance that goes above & beyond.
I’m in awe.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:13 pm

Did these aspiring cash-grabbers really think this would end with a massive cheque? The Hun:

Brisbane coach Chris Fagan has hired a top legal team in a bid to clear his name in the Hawthorn racism bombshell.

Fagan has enlisted Clayton Utz lawyers and barristers Liam Kelly KC and David Turner to act on his behalf in the proposed investigation.

What Fagan said:

“I confirm, as I said in my earlier statement, that I deny, categorically, the allegations of wrongdoing by me in relation to First Nations players at the Hawthorn Football Club, and that I intend to defend myself.”

Meanwhile:

The First Nations families who have made allegations against ex-Hawthorn coaches have serious reservations about being interviewed as part of an independent investigation into the claims.

I fucking bet they have.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:14 pm

I’ve read about 2800 of them

Many such cases!

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:14 pm

Someone will end up with the loot, KD. Who?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:16 pm

Fagan has done exactly what Collingwood should have done during the Harry O’Brien/Hertier Somebody contretemps.

But no. Mr Fix-It McGuire thought he could schmooze his way through it like a Millionaire Hot Seat episode.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 27, 2022 8:16 pm

All the cops that Rolfey sent those texts to, he’s fucked their careers as well.

Now, he hails from down Canberra way, so why did he apply for a job in the N.T., where he was certain to encounter non Law abiding aborigines on
365 days in the year?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2022 8:19 pm

The First Nations families who have made allegations against ex-Hawthorn coaches have serious reservations about being interviewed as part of an independent investigation into the claims.

Hence you will never see these claims in open court. Just commissions and inquiries where everything is taken as gospel. Too bad if Aunty is trashing your life’s work.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:21 pm
Winston Smith
September 27, 2022 8:21 pm

JC:

Someone will end up with the loot, KD. Who?

The Tribal Big Men of course. Not necessarily Aboriginal but.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:21 pm

Someone will end up with the loot, KD. Who?

If Hawthorn hand over a single dollar to that third-rate indig bloke (and his various aunties), that will be the end of any ongoing Aboriginal recruitment program by any AFL club.

Junior academies, remote sponsor programs, schooling (Daniel Rioli in Ballarat as an example). All gone, because the bad press and the mountains of cash going the wrong way after dodgy claims of baby killing will tip the PR hacks and the bean counters against it.

Risk vs reward – it’s just not there. Thanks very much, fuckwits.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:24 pm

Run, run!

Gold.

Naturally, a chick started the panic.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 8:25 pm

Now, he hails from down Canberra way, so why did he apply for a job in the N.T., where he was certain to encounter non Law abiding aborigines on
365 days in the year?

He also previously joined the army and served in Afghanistan.
No doubt hoping to encounter stray aborigines who took a wrong turn on their way back from Woolies.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:25 pm

Turtlehead fuck off. If you have anything to say to or about me, you know where to go. The other thread. Fuck off and stop groveling you grub.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2022 8:30 pm

“If you look at the role of the head of state and the constitution, the constitution really is about guaranteeing rights for Australians – Indigenous Australians have not had that right to be consulted about issues affecting them – and that’s the first important step to take,” he [Thistlethwaite] said.

Be terrified.
Whatever the Minister for Stupid says, the constitution gives us all (including the Aboriginal community) a very, very small number of rights:

There are five explicit individual rights in the Constitution. These are the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).

Unless I’m hopelessly wrong, none of those is the right for anyone “to be consulted about issues affecting them”.

Neither is it a right conveyed in the words of Albanese’s simple’ constitutional change: “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to parliament and the executive government…”.

Perhaps this is an accidental sneak preview of the additional rights the Albanese Government expects Parliament to grant The Voice after we all approve the constitutional change.

The best alternative is that Thistlethwaite is a complete twat who wouldn’t be a minister in a sensible world and should be deeply sedated in the current Clown World.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 8:33 pm

I really don’t see why police calling offenders in the “communidy” disparaging names should be considered a sin.

Not allowed to call ferals disparaging names. They’re magic or something.
And never use a spit-hood on one, no matter how spitty he is.

I’m sad these kids have fallen so far. What can anyone do? Other than keep them from hurting others?

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 8:36 pm

Trump at his speech in Youngstown Ohio on the 17/9 was pertinent.

I’ve watched every Trump rally since he came down the escalator. I haven’t missed one.

He said words, to the effect, “that there had only been 45 people ever elected President.
He paused and then said “ You might wanna think about that statement “

So at this point I say

Go and think about it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 8:37 pm

I’m sad these kids have fallen so far.

Most aren’t kids.

What can anyone do?

Lock them away from normal people just trying to live their lives in peace, and enjoying what they bought and earned.

Other than keep them from hurting others?

See above.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Meloni can define what a woman is. No wonder the left call her a fascist. Incidentally what the fuck is a fascist?

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Bruce Funk

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
September 27, 2022 at 7:36 pm

Rolfe is a dead duck.

Rolfe is being offered up to placate the woke…

The big problem with Rolfe and other police texts is that they are TRUE. Anyone who has been to the NT or northern WA communities and interacted with the indigenous knows the comments are TRUE.

Mater
September 27, 2022 8:41 pm

and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).

That one worked well.

“Queensland hospitals are for Queenslanders!”

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 8:43 pm

Busselton

if you’re sitting on the beach in Busselton and staring off from the fore-shore
you’d probably be looking more toward Indonesia

you’d need to go to Smiths Beach and look west
still even then, you’d probably be looking more toward Cape Town

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:44 pm

The big problem with Rolfe and other police texts is that they are TRUE. Anyone who has been to the NT or northern WA communities and interacted with the indigenous knows the comments are TRUE.

Tell me Big N, would you use that sort of language about aboriginals with other colleagues in a work place setting because that’s exactly what he did.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2022 8:45 pm

Good piece at Quadrant Online about Hawke and his “habits”.

Extracted from Bramston’s tome. Can’t be arsed linking ‘cos I fuck it up.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Tell me Big N, would you use that sort of language about aboriginals with other colleagues in a work place setting because that’s exactly what he did.

Not quite. Texting among co-workers is usually less formal & more akin to meme/joke sharing.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 8:47 pm

to look west to Madagascar, you’d need to be sitting on a beach in WA about 2000km further north than Busselton

dream on mUnty, dream on

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 8:55 pm

Not quite. Texting among co-workers is usually less formal & more akin to meme/joke sharing.

Quite so. There’s nothing less or more informal with texting. No court would consider texting vs verbal discourse of lesser value for evidentiary purposes. Your comment is silly and badly thought out as usual. Furthermore, in this specific case the guy is a cop using pejorative text messages sent to who he believed were pals. At least one them was disgusted. Next time, it would be a good idea for you to comment on the dueling thread for obvious reasons.

miltonf
miltonf
September 27, 2022 8:56 pm

Yes Hawke was a bad little man. Puke worthy how the meja covered for him.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 8:58 pm

BRUSSELS, Sept 23 (Reuters) – European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen has warned Italy of consequences should it veer away from democratic principles,

“democratic principles” in von der Leyen means “EU Diktats”. They have nothing at all to do with the wishes of the Italian electorate.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 27, 2022 8:58 pm

I just watched Gonzalo Lira’s Roundtable 22 with Larry Johnson in the USA, Brian Berletic in Thailand and Alex Christof0rou in Cyprus. The discussion mainly centred around the Ukraine conflict and what will happen post the referendum.

It was a two hour talkfest, the most interesting moment was when Gonzalo had to switch his microphone off due to air-raid sirens in the background, he’s stuck in Kharkov, Ukraine.

The main takeaway was that once the referendum is completed and the Duma incorporates the occupied territories in Russia (assuming the populations vote accordingly), any further attacks on the civilian population in the newly occupied regions will be viewed as an attack on Russia itself.

If such an attack occurs then Russia can activate some joint military protection plan it has with former soviet states and they can then attack the Ukraine in force to end to this war. Of particular interest, this could mean that Belorussia then also becomes an active party which will open another front in the war. Ukraine would then find itself facing hostile forces in the south and east, and Belorussian forces in the north.

Poland is also rattling sabres to regain former Polish territory and cities including Lviv, this could get really messy.

The Roundtable #22: Alex Christoforou, Larry Johnson, The New Atlas

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 9:01 pm

Incidentally what the fuck is a fascist?

easy
anybody who isn’t Bolshie enough

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

No court would consider texting vs verbal discourse of lesser value for evidentiary purposes.

Rubbish, courts love texts.
Something not always considered by those doing the texting.
Half the NT Plod are now latently realising this. They should have been aware enough to delete.
They weren’t.

Next time, it would be a good idea for you to comment on the dueling thread for obvious reasons.

No.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 9:04 pm

cohenitesays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm
Meloni can define what a woman is. No wonder the left call her a fascist. Incidentally what the fuck is a fascist?

Anyone a lefty disagrees with. See also: m0nty-fa.

cohenite
September 27, 2022 9:04 pm

Unless I’m hopelessly wrong, none of those is the right for anyone “to be consulted about issues affecting them”.

The full text of rub and tug’s proposed Voice alteration to the constitution is:

There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the Executive government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

The first issue is where in the constitution will this amendment be situated. Prior to the 1967 referendum the Australian constitution gave legislative power to parliament to make laws with respect to “[t]he people of any race, other than the aboriginal race in any State, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws” (section 51 (xxvi). This meant that the Commonwealth could not make special laws for the Aboriginal people, except in the Territories. Aborigines were a subject for State laws.

In 1967 the words “other than the aboriginal people in any State” were struck out. As a consequence, the Commonwealth gained the power to make special laws for the Aboriginal people (Native Title laws are an example).

The point is the parliament already has a constitutional right to make laws about and for aboriginals. It already can receive advice from any 3rd nations group or groups in respect of the making of those laws, which it does in spades. The Voice amendment is therefore redundant. So, what the fuck is going on.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2022 9:06 pm

European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen has warned Italy of consequences should it veer away from democratic principles

She ain’t good at irony.

The EC is unelected (tick)
The EC is in league with big business (tick)
The EC is totalitarian (tick)

I believe there might be a word for this form of government, which starts with an F.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anybody not remember the haughty instructions given to Austria by the EU when Jorg Haider & his Freedom Party looked like having electoral success?

There was talking Austria being slung out of the EU if the people dared to vote for him.
They’ll go for Italy alright, for daring to elect a PM who makes the Ravensbruck guard women look like benign lefties (or so the msm would have you believe)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 9:12 pm

Half the NT Plod are now latently realising this. They should have been aware enough to delete.
They weren’t.

I don’t know much about the technology, but I’ve seen it said that even deleted texts can be retrieved.

Also, FWIW, Rolfe might have believed that having been found “Not Guilty”, he was out of the woods.

In any event, good luck in recruiting for Northern Territory Police.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 9:14 pm

Clay Clark

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 9:14 pm

Puke worthy how the meja covered for him.

One of the best bits of that piece by Tony Thomas:

Given Hawke’s sex appeal for countless women, did he deliver the goods? Not with distinction, according to Jim Cairns’ secretary, Glenda Bowden, who at 23 at Terrigal, submitted to the 45-year-old’s “voracious sexual appetite”. Her verdict: he was “an average lover” (219).

Hawke liked to flaunt what he clearly believed was his above-average equipment. Union and party colleagues visiting his Sandringham home would find him naked in the pool. He’d climb out to greet them sans towel. In hotels he’d open his door to waiters, colleagues and journos similarly unclad, “with his penis dangling between his spindly legs.” (259)

Political rival and later Governor-General Bill Hayden wrote in his auto-biography:

‘I suspected he harboured visions of himself as a Greek god, I saw only an extroverted quinquagenarian flasher.’

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anyone know what is actually in these horrid texts allegedly found in Rolfe’s phone?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

In hotels he’d open his door to waiters, colleagues and journos similarly unclad, “with his penis dangling between his spindly legs.” (259)

In this age of camera phones everywhere, he’d soon be cured of that habit.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:16 pm

I had EXACTLY this problem with an eggnog at the family business a about a month ago. We’d hired this idiot about a month before the incident. I should have shut him up before it became a problem but I thought I’d just ignore it. This dude went through a bitter divorce years ago . He began to talk to me about how badly men are treated and he was up on the latest Reddit rightwing bullshit bringing it to work the following day. Everyday the was a new conspiracy theory.

We have a New Zealander working for us. The eggnog, during the course of a conversation, told the NZer that NZ had Maoris who are okay smarts wise ,whereas our Aboriginals a stupid. She began to walk away and the eggnog chased her and became visibly angry after telling him she felt it was a racist comment and didn’t want to continue.

I was told about it and let it go for a few days. I spoke to him suggesting we leave political commentary at home and not bring it to work.

He called in sick the next day. I waited a few days and called him. He said, he felt bullied and was seeking medical attention. He also said he was discussing the bullying with a lawyer. I wished him well and haven’t heard from him again. This is the Australian workplace in the present day.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Hahaha, the flaws with voice-to-text technology.
It seems Catallaxy does not have a dedicated “jewellery” thread as I’d first believed it did.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 9:18 pm

Things are accelerating.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 9:19 pm

It all comes back to the complete unvarnished truth.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 9:23 pm

The Voice amendment is therefore redundant. So, what the fuck is going on.

For my money, Linda Burney let the cat out of the bag, some time ago. Words to the effect that “Once the voice is embedded in the Constitution, they won’t be able to get rid of it, the way they did ATSIC.”

The “Voice” is either the fourth or fifth attempt at an Aboriginal “Voice” to Parliament, Each has collapsed amid allegations of graft, nepotism and corruption. If the referendum passes, we’ll need another referendum to strike it down…

rosie
rosie
September 27, 2022 9:25 pm

In Nicki Savva’s book there is a photo of Hawke running around in red undies at the Prime Minister’s cricket match in Canberra when everyone else was fully dressed.
Pretty obvious he was an exhibitionist with delusions of grandeur.
Yet the media went crazy about much fitter SurfLifeSaver Abbott wearing bathers at the beach, doing life saving stuff.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:26 pm

Rubbish, courts love texts.

Which is what I said.

This is why it’s impossible having a worthwhile discussion with you. You downgraded the value of texting with this bilge:

Not quite. Texting among co-workers is usually less formal & more akin to meme/joke sharing.

There is absolutely no earthly reason to come up with a ridiculous suggestion above. It’s idiotic and only a simpleton could come up with a comment about how people communicate nowadays being “less formal. It can be or can also be very formal.

Something not always considered by those doing the texting.

What’s the point of this – another imbecilic comment?

Half the NT Plod are now latently realising this. They should have been aware enough to delete.
They weren’t.

Or perhaps someone was disgusted enough to tell his superiors.

You need to head over to the other thread as this level of stupidity is a form of incitement.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:26 pm

Rubbish, courts love texts.
Something not always considered by those doing the texting.
Half the NT Plod are now latently realising this. They should have been aware enough to delete.

Do you actually understand the technology around storing and sending text messages?

mc
mc
September 27, 2022 9:29 pm

RickW, Good point earlier about fossil fuels saving countless whales by replacing whale oil.

My grandfather was a black smith and I remember him telling me that he thought they had never been able to adequately replace whale oil for quenching/hardening steel..that was 40 years ago so no doubt they have come up with something since. Pretty sure hardening of steel is better today than it was, but that could be to better metallurgy. Maybe BoN can comment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:29 pm

custardsays:

September 27, 2022 at 9:14 pm

Clay Clark

Hey, now you’re talking!

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:30 pm

I’m waiting for the psychopathy to rear its head really soon.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Once room service waiters cottoned on to Hawke’s proclivity to flash them, two things would likely happen.
1/. A photo. Immediately a selected section of the photo would be minimised by photoshop (or other similar app) & texted to “all”.
Everybody who mattered would have a copy by daybreak.

2/. He’d do it to a female room service attendant, who’d be well prepped & suitably traumatized/sexually harassed (& so on) to maximise the chances of good production values for the film, it’d be videoed from at least three different angles.

mem
mem
September 27, 2022 9:32 pm

He said words, to the effect, “that there had only been 45 people ever elected President.
He paused and then said “ You might wanna think about that statement “

What he is intimating is that Biden was never elected.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Do you actually understand the technology around storing and sending text messages?

I do. Though it seems NT Plod could do with a refresher.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 9:34 pm

@TheStorm

It’s Happening!

Again!

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:38 pm

Thank goodness we have a room service expert here to explain it all to us. Now, I feel, we understand and a much better for it.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:38 pm

are..

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2022 9:41 pm

SFL.
Why would Dutton agree to appear on Four Corners. It was a complete hatchet job.
Tell the ABC to fuck off on every occasion.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 9:45 pm

There is not one single person in this country who has not confided in his or her colleagues some level of negative assertion about their bosses, co-workers, customers, clients or whoever they deal with – whether by voice, text, or voice-to-text.

Ordinarily these would be private conversations and treated as such. However, Rolfe’s phone was apparently seized and/or downloaded illegally. Therefore – although the texts recovered (yes, even if deleted) would not have been able to be used in the trial, the lower standard of proof and different rules of the Coroner’s Court means they can be entered in evidence during an inquest.

This state of affairs would not have dawned on most of the jacks there, because full-blown inquests are so few and far between.

If, as reported, one of Rolfe’s sergeants referred to ‘bush coons’ in a text to Rolfe who was a two to three year constable, that’s on the sergeant who is clearly a nincompoop.

I will guarantee you that almost every single copper in Central Australia has been frantically trying to wipe their phones – if not burning SIM cards and getting new ones, because they will all have the same type of content – if not much, much worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 9:45 pm

Zulu

If the referendum passes, we’ll need another referendum to strike it down…

Not really. The detail will all be established by legislation. If the “Voice” becomes too grotesquely corrupt, amend the legislation to give the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs the function. It would meet the requirements of the referendum.

As the amendment says, “There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to Parliament and the Executive government on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 9:46 pm

Dover, if you’re lurking, I’ve sent you an email.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 9:47 pm

Q

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 9:49 pm

I love the new PM of Italy BTW just in case you didn’t know.

Is she possibly the female Trump of Europe?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:50 pm

R

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 9:52 pm

custardsays:
September 27, 2022 at 9:49 pm
I love the new PM of Italy BTW just in case you didn’t know.

Is she possibly the female Trump of Europe?

A DeSantis of EU would be better.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 9:53 pm

Breaking:
Prince Andrew has been appointed Keeper of the Late Queen Elizabeth II’s Corgis due to his extensive experience in grooming.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 9:54 pm

Not really. The detail will all be established by legislation. If the “Voice” becomes too grotesquely corrupt, amend the legislation to give the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs the function. It would meet the requirements of the referendum.

Thanks for sorting that one.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 9:56 pm

I don’t have a link, but it was just Burney’s comment that “they won’t be able to get rid of (the Voice) in the same way they did ATSIC.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 9:57 pm

I’ve sent you an email.

That takes me back.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 9:58 pm

Is she possibly the female Trump of Europe?

No.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2022 9:58 pm

Zulu

You might be giving her too much credit for understanding the operation of legislation.

Zipster
Zipster
September 27, 2022 9:59 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Thank goodness we have a room service expert here to explain it all to us. Now, I feel, we understand and a much better for it.

Glad to be able to help.
Though it should be noted that photographing the genitals of the occupants is not usually part of the experience when delivering room service

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 10:02 pm

Custard

I’m just being hypothetical here and don’t this the wrong way as it’s not meant to offend. I’m just curious.. If Trump asked, would you fuck him, like as in male on male real hardcore , rough sex thrown into the mix.?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rural cats, particularly those in the Beef Cattle game & especially those from Central Queensland will remember Rick Farley.
The tragedy is Linda Burney is Rick Farley’s widow.
She’ll have likely been partly to blame for his late-in-life radicalisation & descent into “poor bugger me”
A bloke who made it to the top, in the world of (racist/evil) pastoralists, without his Aboriginality being an issue, or something he relied upon, or rather, something he would even have been able to rely upon.
He rose purely upon merit & with the full support of cattlemen.
It was a helluva surprise to many to ultimately learn he was Indigenous.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 10:08 pm

You might be giving her too much credit for understanding the operation of legislation.

Fair comment, given that she believes all the old malarkey about poisoned waterholes, and the Flora and Fauna Act.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:10 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 27, 2022 at 9:57 pm

I’ve sent you an email.

That takes me back.

Take it to the Love Songs and Dedications Thread.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 10:11 pm

“Knuckle Draggersays:
September 27, 2022 at 9:57 pm
I’ve sent you an email.

That takes me back.”

Oh my God, don’t remind me!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:11 pm

Though it should be noted that photographing the genitals of the occupants is not usually part of the experience when delivering room service

When and why did you do that?

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 10:13 pm

“A bloke who made it to the top, in the world of (racist/evil) pastoralists, without his Aboriginality being an issue

Rick Farley was not indigenous.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:14 pm

JCsays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:02 pm

Custard

I’m just being hypothetical here and don’t this the wrong way as it’s not meant to offend. I’m just curious.. If Trump asked, would you fuck him, like as in male on male real hardcore , rough sex thrown into the mix.?

Presumably we are talking consensual, no money changes hands?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

When and why did you do that?

Who has intimated anyone did it?
After that, if it was done, who intimated it was I who did that?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:15 pm

Rick Farley was not indigenous.

He’s thinking of Bob Marley.
Not Rick Farley.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rick Farley was not indigenous.

Huh? Fair dinkum?

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 10:17 pm

Just today two customers inexplicably paid for their caravan’s both in the near term of delivery but also way out too!

They have not taken delivery of their vans.

Why would they do that.

Just think about that.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 27, 2022 10:17 pm

Razey says:
September 27, 2022 at 5:41 pm
Things going well in Russia. Mass arrests, able-bodied men fleeing the country, Putin micromanaging the war because his generals keep failing.

Says western propaganda. Goebbels himself would blush with the amount shit spewing out of western media outlets.

I note that Bolt is screaming out the same propaganda. His hysteria was so overpowering I switched off just as he was introducing Sheridan to back up his shrill anti-Russia stance.
I get it – Russia invaded Ukraine and deserves condemnation. But: I’d prefer Bolt to provide his viewers with factual information not blatantly biased opinions.

A silver lining – I took the opportunity to re-watch ‘The Princess Bride”.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 10:17 pm

Was boning up on granny flat rules in Vic. How draconian compared to NSW. Once granny moves out, you need to demolish it.

Funny thing is, back in the 90s I lived in a converted garage at an old grannies place in Nth Balwyn for $70/week. Somehow I don’t think that was legal.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Just today two customers inexplicably paid for their caravan’s both in the near term of delivery but also way out too!

Can you explain this again, in layman’s terminology?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:18 pm

Rick Farley was not indigenous.

Huh? 

RICK FARLEY WAS NOT INDIGENOUS!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

RICK FARLEY WAS NOT INDIGENOUS!

Sancho, you know this… how?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 10:19 pm

Rural cats, particularly those in the Beef Cattle game & especially those from Central Queensland will remember Rick Farley.

Rural Cats from Western Australia remember Rick Farley – one time head of National Farmers federation, when they chewed the Meatworkers Unions to arsepaper over a dispute about a Northern Territory meatworks – the name of who escapes me. It was almost as though he lost his mojo after that….

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 10:20 pm

It’s (I think) because money is going to become very less in value shortly

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2022 10:20 pm

They have not taken delivery of their vans.
Why would they do that.
Just think about that.

Those Sovereign Caravanners must have got to them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:20 pm

Razeysays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:17 pm

Was boning up on granny flat rules in Vic. How draconian compared to NSW. Once granny moves out, you need to demolish it.

Err, wut?

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2022 10:22 pm

“He’s thinking of Bob Marley.
Not Rick Farley.”

LOL. You are funny.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 10:22 pm

Call me ,you know who!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:24 pm

custardsays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:20 pm

It’s (I think) because money is going to become very less in value shortly

WTF!
Whoa!
They contracted for a van at, say, $40k.
They’ve got $40k in their bank account.
How is that money going to reduce in value as it relates to the purchase of the van?

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 10:24 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
September 27, 2022 at 10:20 pm
Razeysays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:17 pm

Was boning up on granny flat rules in Vic. How draconian compared to NSW. Once granny moves out, you need to demolish it.

Err, wut?

Yeah the rules in Vic are that you can build a granny flat for a dependent, but once they move out or die, you must remove the dwelling.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

the name of who escapes me. It was almost as though he lost his mojo after that….

Jay Pendarvis at Mudginberi.
Farley had moved up to the NFF at that time? Okay.
He was a strong performer for a long time. Seemed to go a bit squishy in the NFF.
I wrote a piece for the [redacted publication] at that time (i.e. some time after Mudginberi), somewhat uncomplimentary of the NFF (it wasn’t all my work, I was just the best at rearranging thoughts into legible works.)
The NFF has always had a …er…. mixed…. degree of support among producers.

custard
custard
September 27, 2022 10:25 pm

I’ll hang around until the top of the hour

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:25 pm

Yeah the rules in Vic are that you can build a granny flat for a dependent, but once they move out or die, you must remove the dwelling.

Which rules?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

There is no danger of confusing Rick Farley & Bob Marley.
Besides, at the time I would not have ever heard of Bob Marley.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 10:26 pm

custardsays:
September 27, 2022 at 10:20 pm
It’s (I think) because money is going to become very less in value shortly

But but I’m finally getting interest on mah dosh.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Custard, if someone paid for a caravan & did not pick it up, might be an idea to conduct a welfare check on them.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2022 10:28 pm

What are the laws for granny flats in Victoria?
Current Victorian building laws mandate that a granny flat or DPU:

Must be located on a minimum property size of 450m2

Must have its own entrance

Must be self-contained – with its own toilet, bath or shower, kitchen and living area, and have its sewerage and water services shared with the primary dwelling

Must be movable or easily removable

Must be removed as soon as the dependent ceases living there

https://www.racv.com.au/royalauto/property/renovating/granny-flat-building-rules-costs-victoria.html

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 10:28 pm

Of course it would be consensual. What, you think Trump would ape rape Custard? No way.

It would just be a consensual, loving rough sex.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 27, 2022 10:30 pm

“with his penis dangling between his spindly legs.”

Hypothetically, a cartoonist could draw an annual calendar showing high profile Australians like Hawke in full frontal nudity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:30 pm

I was just the best at rearranging thoughts into legible works.

Wow!
Really?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:32 pm

JCsays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:28 pm

Of course it would be consensual. What, you think Trump would ape rape Custard? No way.

It would just be a consensual, loving rough sex.

And neither party is paying, right?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:37 pm

Call it dual occupancy.
450 sq mtrs is pretty small.
What if it was 600?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 10:37 pm

The NFF has always had a …er…. mixed…. degree of support among producers.

Which was why West Australian Farmers Federation, of which I was an active and vocal member for several years, separated from them.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

West Australian Farmers Federation … separated from them.

I now like WAFF a whole lot more.

JC
JC
September 27, 2022 10:42 pm

No, there’s no payment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:44 pm

JCsays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:42 pm

No, there’s no payment

I dunno.
The more I think about it I’m still not comfortable with the whole thing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:48 pm

Look, custard, I guess I am OK if you give The Donald a quick handy.
But none of that other stuff.
And no kissing.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2022 10:53 pm

Not an awesome weekend.
One of our blokes organised a last camping trip with his dad ( pancreatic cancer).
Rest of the family travelling up for the weekend as well.
Friday I get the call his O2 is low ( 78 or so, he’s coping around 85+).
A conversation is had and after a short discussion with the offsite doc I load the family up with cylinders and a few masks and we see if the bloke can get his last week with the family camping.
Back in this morning, RFDS out, at least they got a couple of days.
Nice old bloke. We all knew we weren’t trying to make him better, just get him the family time in the place he wanted.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 10:54 pm

How is that money going to reduce in value as it relates to the purchase of the van?

who’s gonna break it to him?

2dogs
2dogs
September 27, 2022 10:57 pm

Nord Stream 1 & 2

Foul play is suspected.

I suspect Russia might be testing the waters with a view to augmenting its economic war with sabotage acts against the energy infrastructure of NATO countries.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 27, 2022 10:59 pm

What about breakfast, would Trump spring for coffee and croissants the next morning at least?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 10:59 pm

Razey, why do you care about granny flat rules in Victoria, when you are living in Japan?
Or the Philippines?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 11:01 pm

Perfidious Albinosays:

September 27, 2022 at 10:59 pm

What about breakfast, would Trump spring for coffee and croissants the next morning at least?

That’s fine.
Just a courtesy, or a token of affection.
It doesn’t constitute fee for service.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 11:02 pm

its economic war with sabotage acts against the energy infrastructure of NATO countries.

2dogs, the Russians own Nordstream

rickw
rickw
September 27, 2022 11:02 pm

European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen has warned Italy of consequences should it veer away from democratic principles

Don’t know anything about the new Italian PM, but she’s certainly irritating all the right arseholes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2022 11:04 pm

I now like WAFF a whole lot more.

Agri politics in Western Australia always was a ruthless game. Never forget that it was a protest meeting of farmers in Western Australia, who listened to Gough Whitlam call them “a crowd of lazy bludgers, who’ve never had it so good” and were unkind enough to pelt him with anything that came to hand….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Testes.

Winston Smith
September 27, 2022 11:09 pm

Salvatore:

Anyone know what is actually in these horrid texts allegedly found in Rolfe’s phone?

Probably a lot less than found on our Duelling Thread.

Winston Smith
September 27, 2022 11:12 pm

J.C.

Turtlehead fuck off. If you have anything to say to or about me, you know where to go. The other thread. Fuck off and stop groveling you grub.

Not duelling – you asked a question – I answered it.
Try scrolling instead of dictating who can and can’t write here.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2022 11:14 pm

Two-in-one comment, for extra efficiency.

Russia admits errors made in mobilization – DW News
Putin’s mobilisation order sparks arson attacks across Russia | 9 news Australia

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s partial mobilisation order has sparked defiance, with more than a dozen conscription buildings lit on fire across the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bvdubLtjM

1. The Russians are revolting! (Or foreign agent sleeper cells are trying to destabilise Russia, but I can’t make a pun out of that.)

European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen has warned Italy of consequences should it veer away from democratic principles

2. That’s the same European Commission that takes advice from the European Parliament but is free to ignore how the MEPs voted on any particular issue, which doesn’t give them credibility on valuing democracy. Back in the days of Jean-Claude Juncker as President the attitude from the EC was that doing the will of the people was dismissed as populism, not democracy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2022 11:14 pm

The first rule of Duelling Thread is … no-one talks about Duelling Thread.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 11:28 pm

the second rule of Dueling Thread ?

… no lap-dogs

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

My voice-to-text really needs tweaking, it now sounds like Catallaxy has a “drilling” thread.
That, combined with a couple of people talking earnestly of hot sweaty man-2-man action (& there’s usually only one reason a bloke raises that topic) makes a good Christian lad like me shudder to think what may be going on in the “jewellery” thread.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 11:33 pm

well, it isn’t really a rule but “woof” in falsetto is kinda limp-dicked

rickw
rickw
September 27, 2022 11:45 pm

Interesting FDA advisor comments on Redacted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On2HbCg6ZGs

m0nty
m0nty
September 27, 2022 11:46 pm

For the benefit of Salvo’s text-to-speech machine:

Around the ragged rocks, the wretched rascal ran.

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 11:48 pm

hey m0nty.

which way is west?

m0nty
m0nty
September 27, 2022 11:48 pm

It’s WA, everything is west out here.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 27, 2022 11:49 pm

The chief vaxx salesman is panicking:

COVID vaccine review lead Jane Halton ‘surprised’ government has not ordered vaccines for 2024

Obviously, we need to buy another few hundred million shots of whatever’s in Big Pharma’s pipeline.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 27, 2022 11:53 pm

Of course it would be consensual. What, you think Trump would ape rape Custard? No way.

4chan doesn’t offer up anywhere near this level of insight!

MatrixTransform
September 27, 2022 11:57 pm

everything is west out here.

you ever heard of great circles?

howardb
howardb
September 28, 2022 12:00 am

The prices of gas and oil have fallen and suddenly there is major “unprecedented” damage to both Nord Stream Pipelines. With authorities using the term ‘sabotage’

Winter is coming, Europe is on its knees. The question is, is the enemy within?

Razey
Razey
September 28, 2022 12:01 am

Shit. Some fucker just stole money out of my account. I bet it was that Optus breach as I just bought that Optus Sports for the soccer. Hopefully I’ll get a refund from the bank.

rickw
rickw
September 28, 2022 12:04 am

Doctors and specialists now galloping away from the vax. Where was your caution and research two years ago you fucking tools?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtE0I5FqHPs

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 28, 2022 12:09 am

2dogs, the Russians own Nordstream

The obvious, quick and dirty amelioration – or at least partial amelioration – of Germany’s pending energy crisis is to get Nordstream 2 operational and transporting at least some gas. If the Russians keep that chip on the table, the Germans will negotiate with the knowledge that they can always fall back to starting up Nordstream 2 – okay, on crappy terms, but at least they know won’t go cold for a winter, and they’re negotiating on that basis.

Well, what if something happens to Nordstream 2 that decisively takes it off the table, and suddenly there’s no safety net for the Germans? They’re going to change their approach, perhaps.

It would make sense for Russia to close off that avenue.

howardb
howardb
September 28, 2022 12:25 am

@eugyppius1
“the goal is probably to relieve political pressure on German gvt to open the pipelines, and eliminate any corresponding Russian leverage. but there is probably also the longer-term goal, of reducing the chances of any German return to Russian gas, even after the war.

whereas all major German parties (officially anyway) refused to contemplate negotiations with Russia or opening NS2, there are people for example in CDU who spoke openly of reopening the pipelines after the Ukraine war. this action could also be directed against them.”
https://twitter.com/eugyppius1/status/1574759203603881984

JC
JC
September 28, 2022 12:31 am

Not duelling – you asked a question – I answered it.
Try scrolling instead of dictating who can and can’t write here.

You’re beginning to appear like a stalker. You emailed the previous blog owner that I was mean to you. He suggested you avoid conversing with me and asked me to as well. It worked well for 6 months until you had to, but just had to begin grovelling to me. I’ve said this to you many times. Go back to the old rule that worked well. You will never change my mind about you. You will also feel better about yourself because you won’t be reading negative stuff . Seriously, just fuck off, you horrible stalker.

Dover

Can you please intervene. The previous blog owner asked the Turtlehead not to talk to me and me not to to either. Can yoo think about imposing this rule as this is now becoming a stalking issue with the clown.

Indolent
Indolent
September 28, 2022 12:39 am
howardb
howardb
September 28, 2022 12:43 am

Pres. Biden: “If Russia invades…then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

Reporter: “But how will you do that, exactly, since…the project is in Germany’s control?”

Biden: “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662

Probably done by America, they sit on a gas bubble that they can’t sell because it’s too expensive, DE going to have to buy that! Now you suddenly know why the gas is so expensive there

This is a direct attack on RU and DE infrastructure that is of strategic importance (yes also for the EU, because one day they will have to go through the same economic door with RU…). Here a casus belli is being provoked…

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 12:44 am

test

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 12:56 am

test again

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 12:58 am

Something weird, it wont let me post with a link to youtube, or a link to bitchute

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 12:59 am

They gon’ try to call you names, label you with things till you’re ashamed
You’re a sexist or a racist, white supremacist or gay
They’ll attack your reputation, claim that you’re the one to blame
And try to make you hate yourself for ways that you behave
They’re just names, embrace them and they’ll never cause you pain
They’re just words that another person thought up in they brain
They’re just names, they do not define you, that’s insane
And they’ll just call you something different if you change
Call me racist, I don’t make no BLM donations
I can stand with black folks without a branded corporation
All this systemic prejudice, if you live in this nation
You privileged, black or Caucasian
Call me transphobic, but I support you and your policies
I just can’t ignore the very basics of biology
All I see is men and women tryna live in harmony
Not a hundred genders, that you wanna be
Call me snowflake ’cause I’m offended, I ain’t stone-faced
Social justice warriors destroying us with woke ways
Mad because they voted for the POTUS with the most hate
Man, I miss the old days

Call me loser, call me bigot, call me stupid, call me bitter
Call me ugly, call me cracker, call me douche or call me triggered
You can call me what you want ’cause at the end of the day
Man, they’re just names

Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
We ain’t tripping ’cause we heard it all before
Give a damn, about the names, dawg, we feel no pain
Your words ain’t gonna hurt us anymore
Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
Y’all are tripping, but I hope you find the Lord
Give a damn about the names, dawg, we feel no shame
Call us anything you want, I’m getting bored

They gon’ try to call you names, label you with things till you’re ashamed
Repeat it till you really start believing what they say
They gon’ stamp it on your forehead and scream it till you break
They love to say they’re woke, they’re not awake
They’re just names, afraid of anyone who ain’t the same
So they classify your thoughts as controversial, not okay
Then they cancel you till everything you have, all gets erased
They tryna tell the world you’re bad, they’re just names
Call me conservative or liberal, Republican or Democrat
I’m somewhere in the middle, but y’all don’t know what to do with that
The system got you so obsessed with classifying right or left
You never call a person human, call ’em names instead
Call me sexist, men run the world ’cause they’re aggressive
But behind every man, there’s a woman just as successful
We will never be equal in every way, that ain’t helpful
Our differences are why we’re great together
Call me white devil, I know you think the system favors me
My privilege is residual, benefits from the slavery
Subconscious prejudice embedded in the system made for me
Don’t mean I never struggled to survive, I guess we ain’t agree

Ignorant and jaded, call me dumb, uneducated
Call me idiot or redneck or delusional or crazy
Call me anything society has taught you to say
‘Cause at the end of the day, they’re just names

Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
We ain’t tripping ’cause we heard it all before
Give a damn, about the names, dawg, we feel no pain
Your words ain’t gonna hurt us anymore
Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
Y’all are tripping, but I hope you find the Lord
Give a damn about the names, dawg, we feel no shame
Call us anything you want, I’m getting bored

Your sticks and your stones might break my bones
But your words don’t hurt, so give me your worst
Stupid, loser, ugly, poser
Moron, liar, crazy, loner

Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
We ain’t tripping ’cause we heard it all before
Give a damn, about the names, dawg, we feel no pain
Your words ain’t gonna hurt us anymore
Go ahead and call us names, dawg, do your thing
Y’all are tripping, but I hope you find the Lord
Give a damn about the names, dawg, we feel no shame
Call us anything you want, I’m getting bored

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 1:00 am
Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 1:01 am

Names

By Tom MacDonald

Jannie
Jannie
September 28, 2022 1:05 am

Tom MacDonald is a mirror to modern American and Western culture. At face value he is hideous, mutilated and deformed, consumed by doubt and self hatred. But underneath the facade is an ordinary man yearning for the values of a lost Christian America. Love of God, love of family, love of country. Good neighbourliness and respect for all people.

sorry about the test posts

Johnny Rotten
September 28, 2022 1:46 am

Boambee Johnsays:
September 27, 2022 at 8:58 pm
BRUSSELS, Sept 23 (Reuters) – European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen has warned Italy of consequences should it veer away from democratic principles,

“democratic principles” in von der Leyen means “EU Diktats”. They have nothing at all to do with the wishes of the Italian electorate.

The EU Commission is just a bunch of unelected bullies. Italy will now take big steps to leave the EU and the Euro, default on the EU debts and go back to the lira. ALL IMHO.

Johnny Rotten
September 28, 2022 2:00 am

Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.

– Albert Einstein

Johnny Rotten
September 28, 2022 2:08 am

A guy walked into a crowded bar, waving his 1911 Colt pistol and yelled “I have a .45 Colt with an eight-shot clip and I want to know who’s been screwing my wife?” A voice from the back of the room called out… “You’ll need more ammo!”

Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 28, 2022 4:11 am
calli
calli
September 28, 2022 4:24 am

Pretty obvious he was an exhibitionist with delusions of grandeur.
Yet the media went crazy about much fitter SurfLifeSaver Abbott wearing bathers at the beach, doing life saving stuff.

The MSM always prefers the illusion to reality. It chimes with their showbiz approach to everything.

I noticed up thread some discussion of Rudd. Almost a week out, so I can now process the horror – I spent almost three weeks on tour with a man who not only looked like, but sounded exactly like Kevin Rudd. And with the same politics.

The first night, I said to the Beloved, “Close your eyes and listen. What and who do you hear?”. Once heard, it could not be unheard. The falling, condescending cadence, the certainty of correctness, the lack of curiosity in others’ thoughts…it was all there. We had to avoid each other’s eyes lest we collapse in hysterics…or worse.

Three weeks of Programatic Specificity. No wonder I’m now sufficiently recovered to speak of it.

calli
calli
September 28, 2022 4:45 am

I have come to a sad conclusion – unless you are prepared to spend a huge amount of money at swanky restaurants – no one here can actually cook. Anything. Not even a salad.

No wonder they all shoot across to the Continent on el cheapo air fares. It’s for sustenance.

Directed to an “excellent” fish n’ chips in Whitby, the Beloved and I partook of a meal of such hideousness that most was left on the plate. Battered fish swimming in grease, soggy tasteless chips, fishcakes the consistency of wallpaper paste.

How do they manage it? Are there classes?

British “cuisine” ceases after breakfast. No wonder the most popular dish here is Chicken Tikka Masala.

calli
calli
September 28, 2022 4:56 am

Enough whingeing.

Visited “Aidensfield” today, otherwise known as Goathland. And Hogsmead station. And, just like the tv series, the little steam engine toiled its way around the bend and up the long slope to the station with a puff of soot and a stream of steam. I stood on the overhead bridge and filmed it all.

The moors are fascinating – a vast, acidic man-made landscape. Neolithic man, seeking land to cultivate, cut down swathes of primeval forest and planted crops. Over time the pH changed and the land became unproductive. So another section was cleared. On and on over the centuries. Heather, an acid lover, colonised the dead soil. Animals adapted and thrived.

I wonder if our ruinous solar and wind farms will be viewed the same way centuries hence? Will we be forgiven, or simply passed off as primitives?

calli
calli
September 28, 2022 5:00 am

Last one, I promise.

Yorkshire “sayings” – there are a gazillion of them. My personal favourite:

Where there’s muck, there’s brass.

The rich Tradie’s secret.

miltonf
miltonf
September 28, 2022 5:24 am

Very interesting Calli- so you reckon the cooking is better here in Oz?

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