Open Thread – Tues 11 Oct 2022


Battle of Poitiers, Charles de Steuben, 1834-37

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Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:17 am
calli
calli
October 13, 2022 4:23 am

Thanks Tom. Margolis #1 for me. It has been ever thus and chimes nicely with my embarrassment at Heathrow.

Maybe next time I’ll do a Pauline and get a rails run.

Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:40 am

Calli, give us a review of your JAL flight to Tokyo Narita (or are they now doing long-haul to the downtown airport, Haneda?). At one stage, JAL was the only carrier in the world with eight-abreast economy in its 787 Dreamliners, instead of the usual squeezy nine abreast. Being Japanese, they’re also very good at in-flight food.

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 4:44 am

Haneda, Tom. Report to follow, natch.

At present I’m being subjected to some minor functionary’s zoom meeting. Because Important. She must be in “Health” because she has already consumed enough FC lounge food to feed a small village.

You never know. There may not be food on the plane. 😀

calli
calli
October 13, 2022 4:56 am

modest old Christian lady

One of these descriptors is not true.

In my mind, I’m 18. My right ankle, however, is 102. 😀

Tom
Tom
October 13, 2022 4:59 am

As per Knight’s second cartoon, the “rain bomb” (lingo for retards) has arrived here. Soaking rain now falling in the entire west of Victoria from the Murray to the sea stretching all the way out to Ceduna, SA.

Most of the local news today will be about flash flooding in the southeastern bit of the land of droughts and flooding rains.

Johnny Rotten
October 13, 2022 5:54 am

Miss Beatrice, the church organist, was in her eighties and had never been married. She was admired for sweetness and kindness to all.

One afternoon the pastor came to call on her and she showed him into her quaint sitting room. She invited him to have a seat while she prepared tea.

As he sat facing her old pump organ, the young minister noticed a cut-glass bowl sitting on top of it. The bowl was filled with water. In the water floated, of all things, a condom!

When she returned with tea and scones, they began to chat. The pastor tried to stifle his curiosity about the bowl of water and its strange floater, but soon it got the better of him and he could no longer resist. “Miss Beatrice” he said “I wonder if you would tell me about this?” pointing to the bowl.

“Oh, yes” she replied “isn’t it wonderful? I was walking through the park a few months ago and I found this little package on the ground. The directions said to place it on the organ, keep it wet and that it would prevent the spread of disease. Do you know I haven’t had the flu all winter!”

Johnny Rotten
October 13, 2022 5:56 am

A blind bloke walks into a shop with a guide dog. He picks the Dog up and starts swinging it around his head. Alarmed, a shop assistant calls out: ‘Can I help, sir?’ ‘No thanks,’ says the blind bloke. ‘Just looking.’

– Tommy Cooper

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 6:02 am
rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 6:08 am

Sutton wanted masks back at the beginning of winter.
Andrews just making it clear every decision was political.
“The result is that an unprecedented public health response which began in March 2020 and culminated in Melbourne spending 262 days in lockdown has ended in a whimper, with no parliamentary scrutiny and little public debate.”

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 6:11 am
rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 6:15 am

White racists, they’re everywhere.
Incidentally you could say that about large groups out socially where every member is Chinese/Indian/Aboriginal/etc
Only then it’s not racist.
When almost half of Victorians are either born overseas or have a parent who was born in another country, why do I run into large groups of people out socially where every member is white?

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 6:19 am

Wonder how many of Emma’s friends didn’t go to Firbank or Brighton Grammar etc

2dogs
2dogs
October 13, 2022 6:31 am
Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 6:49 am

Has anyone seen Tucker Carlson’s The End of Men?

Not to be confused with Lana Rhoades’ The Ends of Men.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 13, 2022 6:50 am

Leak is pretty weak, parroting the Washington/CIA line that Putin is going to use Nuclear Weapons.
So is David Rowe, the only blood on Putin’s hands is from Russian soldiers he has condemned to the meat grinder.
And as far as Zelensky goes, he’s more likely at his Miami mansion or his parents Tel Aviv condo than risking a bullet in his arse in Ukraine.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 13, 2022 6:53 am

Sutton wanted masks back at the beginning of winter.

Sutton is right.
Vaccinated persons are living Spike Protein factories, social distancing should also be enforced.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 6:56 am

Has anyone seen Tucker Carlson’s The End of Men?

No do you have a link Dot.

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 7:03 am

DXB, midnight, need to stay awake for another 2 hours.

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 7:03 am

Herald Sun has a headline
‘White Elephants That Failed Victoria’
Paywalled
Mickleham Quarantine, healthsmart I can see.
The bridge monitoring system, desal plant, I’m sure there are many more.

Mater
October 13, 2022 7:05 am
rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 7:09 am

I’m sure there are many more.

Railway level crossing removal. The one they removed near me retained the same phenomenally shit road layout, removed 4 boom gates and required a massive bridge span.

The whole suburb did a collective head slap when they realised that the two roads that align with each other would not be connected. That’s where the fucking ticket office is.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 7:10 am

I have only seen Paul Joseph Watson’s video about how it is being called “fascist” by soy guzzling beta males like Colbert and 600 lb proud independent black cardiac patients.

I saw Cernovich on it and I cringed a little.

132andBush
132andBush
October 13, 2022 7:17 am

First comment on the link from Mater.

Dan
@Dan19Hatton
·
22h
Replying to
@jamessmithPT_
Least you’re big enough to apologise most will just back track

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 7:18 am

“Railway level crossing removal. The one they removed near me retained the same phenomenally shit road layout, removed 4 boom gates and required a massive bridge span.”
Thank goodness I very rarely venture to that part of town.

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 7:22 am

Still hoodwinked by climate changy though.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 13, 2022 7:26 am

KD you must be pretty disappointed the Poms made the Aussies look a bit ordinary last night. From what I read the score flattered the Aussies. I haven’t watched T20 since Brendon McCullum stopped playing for Brisbane. Loved watching that guy.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 13, 2022 7:27 am

40mm so far in the big deluge.
My wife put down some lawn seed on bare patches before the rain. The seed is floating down the drive.
64mm at Swan Hill. That’s a lot for a Mallee town but there’s been over 55mm in Bendigo, the water will really be running in the hills as they’ve now had over 100mm for October.

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 7:29 am

What the experts were saying a year ago.
COVID-19 vaccination reduces household transmission up to 97%

Razey
Razey
October 13, 2022 7:33 am

Farmer Gezsays:
October 13, 2022 at 7:27 am
40mm so far in the big deluge.
My wife put down some lawn seed on bare patches before the rain. The seed is floating down the drive.
64mm at Swan Hill. That’s a lot for a Mallee town but there’s been over 55mm in Bendigo, the water will really be running in the hills as they’ve now had over 100mm for October.

Was up on the Sunshine Coast for a bit once. Had 1,000mm in a week.

Razey
Razey
October 13, 2022 7:35 am

The covid transmission bombshell makes a mockery of those remaining countries still discriminating against the pure bloods.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 7:39 am

Impressive by Mr Smith in Mater’s linked tweet above.

As one of the down thread commenters said – most people would just backtrack.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 7:41 am

Snap, Bush.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2022 7:47 am

More confirmation that the vaccine actually makes transmission worse after several months.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Turns Negative Within Months: Study (12 Oct)

Which means it removes prior natural immunity same as Pfizer’s does. Makes sense since they both use the spike protein, which mediates cell fusion. So the T cells get stuck onto the cells the mRNA is expressed in then they stop working as first responders to an infection.

Amazing how all this stuff is coming out, which we were discussing more than 2 years ago.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 7:47 am

rosiesays:
October 13, 2022 at 6:02 am
The Age, paywalled
Andrews did not seek Sutton’s advice on ending pandemic declaration

Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton, having served for nearly three years as the public face and key adviser to Victoria’s response to COVID-19, was not consulted on the decision to lift the state’s pandemic declaration.

At 11.59pm on Wednesday the current pandemic declaration expires, signalling the end of Victoria’s emergency response to the virus. Government sources confirmed that advice prepared by the state’s public health team to inform this decision was neither sought nor considered by Premier Daniel Andrews.

In response to questions from The Age about the premier’s decision not to seek Sutton’s advice, a government spokesman referred to a separate decision agreed to by national cabinet to end mandatory isolation for COVID cases.

That decision, based on the advice of Australia’s Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly, removed one of the few remaining public health orders in Victoria which requires a pandemic declaration to have legal force.

Under Victoria’s Public Health and Wellbeing Act amended in late 2021 as Melbourne was emerging from its sixth and final COVID lockdown, there is no requirement for the premier to seek the advice of the CHO when deciding whether to allow a pandemic declaration to lapse.

If Andrews had wanted to revoke the declaration before its October 12 expiry date, extend it or otherwise vary it, he would have been obliged to consult and consider the advice of both Sutton and Health Minister Mary-Anne Thomas. Sutton’s advice, in due course, would have been published.

To let the declaration expire, Andrews was not required to do anything.

Reason Party leader Fiona Patten, one of the crossbench MPs whose support was vital to the passage of Victoria’s pandemic laws through parliament, said this reflects a deliberate design feature of the amended act.

A pandemic declaration is the legal instrument required to give the health minister the power to order people to stay home, businesses and classrooms to shut and positive cases to isolate.

As the laws are written, the onus is on the government to show why it needs these extraordinary powers to respond to a pandemic, not why it doesn’t. “The legalisation is proactive,” Patten said. “A declaration ceases to exist unless the premier makes the case that it needs to.”

The result is that an unprecedented public health response which began in March 2020 and culminated in Melbourne spending 262 days in lockdown has ended in a whimper, with no parliamentary scrutiny and little public debate.

While the lifting of the pandemic declaration has been broadly welcomed by business groups, the absence of Sutton and his public health team from this final, significant decision will create unease among people who, since the pandemic began, have taken comfort from the government’s repeated assurances that it always follows the public health advice.

“I just think it is extremely curious that after 2½ years of the CHO being side by side with the premier, the government is now not seeking his advice,” opposition health spokeswoman Georgie Crozier said.

“Technically, the premier doesn’t have to, but you would think he would.”

Andrews’ decision not to seek the CHO’s counsel further widens the gap between Victoria’s public health leadership and the government about where our ongoing pandemic settings should be.

Previously published advice by Deputy Chief Health Officer Ben Cowie showed that the government did not act on his advice to reimpose mask mandates in schools, early learning centres and retail outlets at the start of this year’s winter wave.

Sutton’s recent tweet warning against “sleepwalking into COVID” suggests he doesn’t support the national cabinet decision to abandon mandatory isolation – a decision taken without input from the state chief health officers – and by extension, the lifting of the pandemic declaration.

Melbourne University public health expert Nathan Grills, while not critical of the decision to end the pandemic declaration, questioned the process followed by the government.

“I think something is missing if they are not consulting their chief health officer who, right through the pandemic, has been responsible for implementing the emergency health orders,” he said.

“The government doesn’t need to take only the advice of the chief health officer – they can consult other departments and interests to make a final decision. But it would be unwise not to at least consult with the CHO and take their advice into account.”

Deakin University epidemiologist Catherine Bennett said the absence of formal advice from Sutton was only a problem if it reflected a larger gulf in communication between his public health team and the health minister’s office.

“I would be comfortable if we knew there was good communication,” she said. “Do you have to write it a rule book, ‘we have to go talk to that person’, when that person should be reporting to the health minister on a very regular basis?”

Andrews said on Wednesday that, although a pandemic declaration was “central to whether it’s a pandemic in a legal sense”, COVID remained. He urged people to follow the CHO’s advice on getting tested, staying home when sick and keeping up to date with vaccines.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 7:48 am

KD you must be pretty disappointed the Poms made the Aussies look a bit ordinary last night.

I am more disappointed it wasn’t the Kenyan or Canadian cricket team that made the Aussies look ordinary. That was supposed to be their best eleven on the park. Straya lost by eight runs, but it was never really a close-run thing – aside from one wayward over by the Poms, they controlled the match throughout.

Midget ranga cheat – 4. One step closer to the cricketing grave. Glenn Maxwell needs to pull his finger out, or he’s a real risk of getting the arse before the World Cup.

The upside is that ex-skipper Cheaty McSookage wasn’t nervous ticcing all over the ground at all.

duncanm
duncanm
October 13, 2022 7:48 am

White racists, they’re everywhere.
Incidentally you could say that about large groups out socially where every member is Chinese/Indian/Aboriginal/etc
Only then it’s not racist.
When almost half of Victorians are either born overseas or have a parent who was born in another country, why do I run into large groups of people out socially where every member is white?

She might want to have a squiz at the ‘born overseas or of immigrant parents’ vs. ‘white’ venn diagram, too.

duncanm
duncanm
October 13, 2022 7:50 am

White racists, they’re everywhere.

FMD – I just had a quick look at that article.

The older I get, the more I find myself scanning the crowd to find faces like mine. Children of immigrants, those with a mixed heritage and third culture kids. We gravitate towards each other with a sense of solidarity, even if our cultures are vastly different.

so groups of non-white OK, groups of white BAD.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 13, 2022 7:50 am

It’s not by accident that “Kevin 07” occurred.

Indeed, there were omens aplenty.

Comets appearing in the sky. Sheep being born with five legs.

And a healthy economy. It is one of the greatest portents that a healthy economy precedes Australians voting for spendthrift charlatans who promise to blow all the dosh on feel-good schemes and even as they tip out the coffers they will magically refill.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 13, 2022 7:50 am

Dreyfus on The Voice to Parliament;
Press Club, 12/10/22:

“I can’t think of a reason why there should be overseas funding permitted or campaigning in this referendum,”

Albanese on the Voice to Parliament;
27/08/22

Shaquille O’Neal joins PM as Anthony Albanese says ‘world is watching’ Voice to Parliament debate

“I’m here in your country, whatever you need from me, just let me know,” O’Neal said.

Apparently the Government needs you to fuck off.

(If I was running the CCP Political Destabilisation Unit, I’d funnel a few $million into the ‘Yes’ campaign – and then, after the Voice got up, leak the fact and warm my hands at the Golden Bonfire of Eternal Conflict.)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 7:52 am

Pedro at 12.26, overnight:

The astrolabe was invented sometime around 200 BC

You can dig them up six at a time out here. 40,000 years old they are. The countrymen use them as doorstops.

and the Greek astronomer Hipparchus is often credited with its invention

That’s bullshit. Astrolabes, as far as I am aware, have nothing to do with concreting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2022 7:56 am

Once people stop having boosters the T cell population will re-establish itself from stem cells. There won’t be much immunity as the new ones won’t be trained yet, but with ordinary coronavirus cold infections and Omicron (which has a different spike to the vaccines) then natural immunity should return. None of these studies go on long enough though to have a chance of showing that. But that’s what the biochemistry would appear to suggest. The trouble is constant boosters just keep clearing out the latest bunch of new lymphocytes that were generated since the last booster.

Zipster
Zipster
October 13, 2022 7:56 am

Chinese Police Arm in NYC: Spying on Dissenters?; Report: Communist China Rewriting the Bible?
China in Focus – NTD
00:53 Chinese Police Arm in NYC: Spying on Dissenters?
03:28 Irish Gov’t Asks Chinese Embassy for Answers
04:05 State Media: China to Stick to ‘Zero-COVID-19’ Plan
05:11 Highly Contagious Omicron Sub-Variants Emerge: China
06:17 China Imposes Lockdowns Amid Virus Surges
07:43 Pompeo Releases Video Series on Beijing’s Propaganda
10:50 Report: Communist China Rewriting the Bible?
12:58 Undersea Cable Safety Is Critical in War: Greg Copley

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 7:58 am

Andrews did not seek Sutton’s advice on ending pandemic declaration

Just incase you thought you weren’t living in a Mongocracy.

The whole things stinks of profoundly stupid people having big and important meetings and showing “leadership” by making really fucking dumb decisions.

Crossie
Crossie
October 13, 2022 8:06 am

The C19 vaccine debacle proves that the media are completely ignorant of anything excepts what’s trending on Twitter. Most of us here knew that a flu or corona virus vaccine was impossible to make effective and safe as it had been tried for decades. None of the media even checked into it, it never occurred to them that it’s their job. That suddenly there was a pandemic and a solution and it did not ring any bells for them is unforgivable.

The other thing that makes the media more culpable than politicians and bureaucrats for everything we went through is that they demonised perfectly good and safe treatments in favour of nothing, they did not even have the vaccine at that stage as cover.

What I expected to see at the beginning while waiting for a vaccine is all sorts of treatments with drugs that we already had. I expected to see a plethora of competing ideas all being showcased in the media. That they did the opposite is proof that they must all ay for this.

The MSM are the real enemy.

shatterzzz
October 13, 2022 8:07 am

When does “gerbil werming” kick in, does anyone know? .. Mid October in Fairfield, NSW and still wearing jumpers and have blankets on the bed! ……. Duuuuuuuh!

Crossie
Crossie
October 13, 2022 8:09 am

Sorry for the typos and the long screed above. I just had to get it off my chest.

We supposedly have the media to keep the bastards honest and they prove to be worse than the bastards.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 8:09 am

Uncle Fester now goes to Zero Hedge for his science . FMD.

Crossie
Crossie
October 13, 2022 8:13 am

shatterzzz says:
October 13, 2022 at 8:07 am
When does “gerbil werming” kick in, does anyone know? .. Mid October in Fairfield, NSW and still wearing jumpers and have blankets on the bed! ……. Duuuuuuuh!

Yeah, I’m still using heating first thing in the morning and for a bit in the evenings to take the chill off. I remember the October long weekend in 1974 being this cold as I went to a wedding and needed to wear my leather and fur coat. So we are back where we started in the 70s when predictions were for a coming ice age.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 8:17 am

Crossiesays:
October 13, 2022 at 8:06 am

The public have been feed disaster porn movies for decades. Where a group of experts saves the world. I think this played a part. Giving people a chance to be here’s.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 8:20 am

Sorry for the typos

I forgive you but only this time.

Cassie of Sydney
October 13, 2022 8:21 am

“The MSM are the real enemy.”

Never a truer word spoken.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 8:22 am

…to be heroes.

Chuckle.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 8:25 am

Why Farmers make the Best Intellectuals

There is a good reason why not many truck drivers and farmers are progressive utopians with dreams of revolutionizing society. A farmer who doesn’t learn to work with the grain of reality is going to have silos with no grain. A trucker who doesn’t learn that the wrong air pressure in his tires will lead to blowouts, or in other words, that he must conform to the rules of physics and not the other way around, is not going to be on the road very long before disaster strikes. In these professions, with their close proximity to grounded reality, error leads quickly to correction and discipline in the most obvious and painful of ways.

But in the softer sciences, conceits and abstract theories can float around and spread like a mind-virus long before their incarnated effects reveal how disastrously mistaken their assumptions were. The long delay is a key and critical difference. The correction and discipline do come, but just like sending a child to time-out 3 hours after they hit their sibling is sure to teach them nothing, so the delayed correction to the wrong-headed theories rarely seem to change the minds of those who adopted them. And by then the damage has been done.

So the farmer and the trucker get discipled into a kind of humility with regard to nature. Their relationship to the nature of the cosmos and of human behavior is such that they must adjust themselves, like a partner in a waltz, to the larger forces they reckon with and harness. The best farmers, or plumbers, or electricians, or woodworkers — all those hands-on trades — are those who best discern and adjust themselves to the raw material they handle, and the natural forces which act on that material. This willingness and ability to adjust to nature as we find it is a kind of humility which is absent from those who aim to remake the world.

Beyond the forces of nature, there are certain universal human elements that must be accounted for as well. For example, being punctual, truthful, and trustworthy will lead to repeat business and recommendations – in short, flourishing. So a brilliant plumber who cheats his customers will not get far, but a personable and honest electrician who burns a house down through shoddy work will do no better. One needs a measure of both practical and interpersonal skills.

If only the work of intellectuals had such tight feedback loops, we could save ourselves so much pain and misery. Unfortunately, the work of the intellectual allows him to entertain ideas which are manifest nonsense, but which sound good and appeal to a great many people for one reason or another. And the more wealthy and decadent a society becomes, where the educated classes are further and further insulated from the harsh realities of the created order — and its humbling lack of flexibility on many points — the more they have the illusion that everything is malleable and plastic. Yes, everything can be re-imagined! And then our perfect utopian vision can be brought to pass!

But God will not be mocked, and the particular shape he gave to the world we inhabit will only be thwarted for so long.

For this reason, I prefer my intellectuals and thought-leaders to also be farmers.

Winston Smith
October 13, 2022 8:28 am

Old Ozzie:

“The government doesn’t need to take only the advice of the chief health officer – they can consult other departments and interests to make a final decision. But it would be unwise not to at least consult with the CHO and take their advice into account.”

Listening to the people who pay your salaries, would also help, Mr Andrews.

shatterzzz
October 13, 2022 8:30 am

Leak is pretty weak, parroting the Washington/CIA line that Putin is going to use Nuclear Weapons.

Unfortunately, Leake is anti-Vlad always has been and it is reflected in all of his “Wussi/Vlad bad ” cartooning …

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 13, 2022 8:30 am

The apostrophe was invented sometime around 250 BC

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 13, 2022 8:33 am

When almost half of Victorians are either born overseas or have a parent who was born in another country, why do I run into large groups of people out socially where every member is white?
Because birds of a feather flock together. Smart man, Mr Kipling.

Indolent
Indolent
October 13, 2022 8:34 am
rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 8:35 am

American Precision Museum Part 2. Home of Bridgeport Milling Machine Serial No.1 (!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-1rn5nx4L8

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 8:37 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 13, 2022 at 8:21 am
“The MSM are the real enemy.”

Never a truer word spoken.

Dover’s post from earlier needs another run

Production of dramatic photos for the Western media:

— Taka a photo of me, Andrej Andreevich. I’ll take a selfie and will send it to my sister in Russia.

How that Production appears in the Western Media as “Evidence” of Russian Atrocities

Thank you, Maria, for exposing the fakes in the making. And below are them already published by Western media. Beware of Ukrainian and Western propaganda!

More of these “shoking images” on the front pages of Western media

Mater
October 13, 2022 8:37 am

Most of us here knew that a flu or corona virus vaccine was impossible to make effective and safe as it had been tried for decades.

+1000
And it didn’t take a crystal ball, merely a steady head and some critical, rational thinking.

Some people around here are being accused of benefiting from hindsight, despite their story not deviating an inch since April 2020.

Labelling it a lucky guess doesn’t cut it either.

shatterzzz
October 13, 2022 8:37 am

Midget ranga cheat – 4. One step closer to the cricketing grave.

Not a big cricket fan but I glanced at a puff piece headline on (I thinx) Fox Sports yesterday that he was edging closer to redemption and in line for T20 captainship ……..

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 8:39 am

The C19 vaccine debacle proves that the media are completely ignorant of anything excepts what’s trending on Twitter.

Well, yes.

I’m not confident they (as a generic beast) are Resident Evil though. As areff and Tom have accurately pointed out in the past, that ‘profession’ has become an incurious, semi-literate press release recycling facility. The concepts of value-adding and balance have disappeared.

It’s about a) ratings, b) the advancement of presenters’ profiles and c) promulgating whatever they think is popular at the time in the interests of (a). Sure, there are pockets of heavily opinionated horseshit such as The Project, but in large part I believe their influence is drawn not from Klaus and the Lizard People, but from stupid ponytailed YouTube devotees.

Certain smaller elements of society are louder and more strident. More screamy. The media ponytails equate volume with accuracy, and repeat it in the belief that because it’s loud it must be true.

It doesn’t matter what the subject is, the terminology used is designed to attract. Rampage. Crisis. Rain bomb. An average munter standing outside a shop with a broken window somewhere, exclaiming that ‘it’s like a war zone’ – and despite never having been anywhere near a war zone, that average munter’s statement is accepted without question and broadcast because it might rate.

It’s not malevolent, it’s just going after the low-hanging fruit – and because shit tins of people will believe absolutely anything coming out of the picture wireless, the media can just coast along in neutral without asking questions or applying any significant analysis to what’s fed into the front end.

shatterzzz
October 13, 2022 8:42 am

The older I get, the more I find myself scanning the crowd to find faces like mine.

Pop into the shopping centre I use and the odds are the only “white” faces you’ll see or EFL voices you hear are likely to be the ‘ckeck-out” chicks … LOL

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 8:48 am

he was edging closer to redemption and in line for T20 captainship ……..

There’s no redemption for that child-sized pissant.

None.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 8:54 am

Gaining More Prominence in West –Pfizer Executive Admits They and the White House Lied About Vaccine Efficacy

Well, today (October 12th, 2022) offers just a bit of vindication for those who didn’t take our beatings lying down. An executive for Pfizer has admitted in an open hearing that they never even tested their vaccine to see whether it helped prevent transmission.

That admission runs counter to the claims coming from Pfizer and the Biden administration during and after the initial rollout of the vaccines. For well over a year, both entities alluded to data and studies showing that the transmission was significantly reduced after receiving the shots. It wasn’t until that lie became completely indefensible during the Omnicron wave that the goalposts began to move, with the CDC finally admitting in mid-2021 that the vaccinated were still spreading the virus at a high rate.

Now, we know that there never was any data to back up those claims. Pfizer, citing time constraints, never even tested the topic of transmission, instead focusing on whether it reduced the risk of severe illness.

In a vacuum, that would have been fine. Clearly, time was an issue, and you’d expect whether the vaccines help prevent death to be a priority. But we don’t live in a vacuum. Instead, we live in a world where these massive, government-leeching pharmaceutical companies made billions of dollars pushing their vaccines as a way to “protect others” knowing they had no data to back that up. Some might even call that fraud.

Meanwhile, the White House, desperate to push its own narrative regarding the vaccines, largely for political reasons, used those same false claims to justify mandates that never had any scientific backing. To this day, the Biden administration won’t admit that things like vaccine passports, for example, are completely worthless and unnecessarily discriminatory.

Of course, no one will pay a price for misleading the American public to bilk taxpayers out of billions of dollars. Accountability when it comes to COVID-19 would put the cult at risk, and we can’t have that.

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 8:55 am

And it didn’t take a crystal ball, merely a steady head and some critical, rational thinking.

So naturally Politicians, Bureaucrats and Health Experts completely failed this basic test.

Winston Smith
October 13, 2022 8:55 am

JC:

Uncle Fester now goes to Zero Hedge for his science . FMD.

Take it to the Dueling thread, sunshine.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 13, 2022 8:56 am

Apostrophes was a very possessive Greek philosopher.

Indolent
Indolent
October 13, 2022 8:56 am

I’m not confident they (as a generic beast) are Resident Evil though. As areff and Tom have accurately pointed out in the past, that ‘profession’ has become an incurious, semi-literate press release recycling facility. The concepts of value-adding and balance have disappeared.

That’s the least of it. That would, perhaps, be understandable. Actively ignoring and suppressing information and demonising even well credentialed experts with differing opinions is the unforgivable part. It’s not a question of “they know not what they do” but of producing outright and deliberate propaganda. That is no longer journalism in any genuine sense of the word.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 8:58 am

Mater says:
October 13, 2022 at 8:37 am
Most of us here knew that a flu or corona virus vaccine was impossible to make effective and safe as it had been tried for decades.
+1000

Mater, we’ve the flu shot since forever.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 13, 2022 9:01 am

Brendan O’Neill looks at UK labour’s rising star.

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2022 9:05 am

Mater, we’ve the flu shot since forever.

Do they work? Last one I had was about 10 years ago. Only year I got the flu.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 9:06 am

WSJ reporting that Brad Pitt is in talks to sell part or all of his production company.
It’s hard to see the claims Jolie has made regarding royalties/residuals not making the jump into the mainstream media.
If you compare her producer credits to his, you can see her motivation.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 9:06 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
October 13, 2022 at 7:56 am
Once people stop having boosters the T cell population will re-establish itself from stem cells. There won’t be much immunity as the new ones won’t be trained yet, but with ordinary coronavirus cold infections and Omicron (which has a different spike to the vaccines) then natural immunity should return. None of these studies go on long enough though to have a chance of showing that. But that’s what the biochemistry would appear to suggest. The trouble is constant boosters just keep clearing out the latest bunch of new lymphocytes that were generated since the last booster.

…would suggest…we want mechanisms and proof, you do not work for Pfizer…

Look. If you are lucky and don’t get adverse effects, your body would destroy these vaccine material after any initial effect. The mRNA ones needed to be kept at sub zero temps.

I would have thought the effect of constant boostering would be a negligible effect – per a usual dose response curve.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 9:08 am

My experience is the flu shot works better in some years than others.

Influenza is not a coronavirus. Please look at some electron scanning microscope photos of either.

sfw
sfw
October 13, 2022 9:08 am

Maybe not Kipling.

“The expression birds of a feather flock together can be traced to a 1545 work called The Rescuing of Romish Fox, written by William Turner: “Byrdes of on kynde and color flok and flye allwayes together.” Whether the proverb was in common use before this time is unknown.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 9:09 am

If you’ve had any mRNA COVID jabs you need to be taking a NMN/NAD supplement.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 9:13 am

The schematic shows why they’re different species of virus, the level of detail and differentiation makes it very apparent.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1876034120306808

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 13, 2022 9:13 am

The aged still vomiting up marxist agitprop I see. Do people actually own shares in that miserable outfit called 9? What do they think of this shit? What does our former treasurer think of it?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 9:16 am

One of the sweetest deals Pitt did was with 12 Years a Slave.
It’s going to be played in US class rooms forever as part of multiple states curriculum.
Taxpayer funded royalties.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 9:19 am

I declare as a non violent stochastic noise vigilante civil rights dissenter.

You know the jig will truly be up when they craft the phrase “non-violent terrorism”.

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2022 9:22 am

The older I get, the more I find myself scanning the crowd to find faces like mine.

Are you saying you judge a person by the colour of their skin?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 9:24 am

Seven times ‘disinformation’ turned out to be just the opposite

From Hunter Biden’s laptop to the origins of COVID-19, numerous contentious claims deemed false and misleading by elites have since proven legitimate.

Rabz
October 13, 2022 9:27 am

Did anyone watch Hildebrand on Sky blaming everyone except labore for the power crisis.

Ah yes, the point at which I started shouting at the TV.

Latham then set the audience straight about the beta sook soy boy’s lies.

No sooks, no lefties, eh Fatso (Murray)?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 13, 2022 9:28 am

Dotsays:
October 13, 2022 at 9:19 am
I declare as a non violent stochastic noise vigilante civil rights dissenter.

You know the jig will truly be up when they craft the phrase “non-violent terrorism”.

The jig is already well and truly up. We have had incessant babble for over 18 months proclaiming the first unarmed “insurrection” in history.

Hard to beat that.

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2022 9:28 am

When almost half of Victorians are either born overseas or have a parent who was born in another country, why do I run into large groups of people out socially where every member is white?

Steady on…they could be aborigines.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 9:29 am

Bombshell revelation of $1M offer to Steele shows FBI misled Congress on Russia probe: Kash Patel

The House Intelligence Committee under Rep. Devin Nunes sent 17 congressional subpoenas to the FBI “for information specifically related to payments and confidential human sources, were denied this information, and we learn it four years after our investigation,” said the lead investigator of the panel’s probe into the FBI’s Russia Collusion investigation.

“That means somebody obstructed a congressional investigation with congressional subpoenas,” said Patel, a former national security prosecutor.

This exposes “the depths that [the FBI] would go to to falsely corroborate the Steele dossier, which … shows they didn’t have it verified, which we’ve said the whole time,” Patel added.

“And more importantly,” he continued, “they were willing to spend a million taxpayer dollars on shoveling political hot garbage through the federal court system just to surveil a political target that would have been totally baseless — it was baseless then.”

Referring to a group of senior FBI leaders during the James Comey era as “government gangsters,” Patel said “this bombshell” shows that they “were so arrogant, that they said, ‘Nobody is going to catch us. We are going to break a constitutional republic’s 250-year tradition because we don’t like the guy in the White House, and we’re going to manufacture a crime on it.’”

Retired FBI supervisory special agent Bassem Youssef, one of the bureau’s most famous whistleblowers, said Tuesday’s revelation at the trial was unlike anything he ever saw in his three-decade FBI career.

“Never in my entire career have I heard of such an offer to pay a source to corroborate their own information,” Youssef told Just the News. “The FBI queries other sources in order to validate the original source of information. It is unheard of that the FBI would offer to pay Steele $1 million to corroborate his own information.

“Obviously, the FBI was unable to validate this information through any other source that they had to resort to ‘bribing’ Steele to lend credibility to his own information, which the FBI knew to be inaccurate and unreliable,” he added. “What a sad state of affairs in my beloved FBI.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 13, 2022 9:31 am

Farmer Gezsays:

October 13, 2022 at 7:27 am

40mm so far in the big deluge.
My wife put down some lawn seed on bare patches before the rain. The seed is floating down the drive.

Your culverts will be chockers with grass in six weeks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 9:32 am

Seven days of mayhem: Random killings expose lethality of Democrat crime policies

More than three-quarters of U.S. voters said violent crime is a major problem in a poll taken one month from Election Day.

Rabz
October 13, 2022 9:35 am

Emma Sullivan is a hypocritical racist imbecile.

A common or garden variety collectivist, in other words.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 9:36 am

Immune Imprinting and Protection against Repeat Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2

More than 2 years into the coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) pandemic, the global population carries heterogeneous immune histories derived from various exposures to infection, viral variants, and vaccination.1 Evidence at the level of binding and neutralizing antibodies and B-cell and T-cell immunity suggests that a history of infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) can have a negative effect on subsequent protective immunity.1 In particular, the immune response to B.1.1.529 (omicron) subvariants could be compromised by differential immune imprinting in persons who have had a previous infection with the original virus or the B.1.1.7 (alpha) variant.1

Omicron infection induces strong protection against a subsequent omicron infection.2,4 In the present cohort study, an additional, earlier infection with non-omicron SARS-CoV-2 was found to strengthen this protection against a subsequent omicron infection. The earlier pre-omicron infection may have broadened the immune response against a future reinfection challenge.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 9:38 am

Labelling it a lucky guess doesn’t cut it either.

It does for me. I can’t point to everything definitive that told me something was not right. Only a resistance to alarmist rhetoric that I’ve built up over the years. But I’m not about to go around saying I told you to others as it serves no practical purpose.

P
P
October 13, 2022 9:38 am

‘ISIS brides’ will return to Sydney
The Catholic Weekly – October 12, 2022

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 9:39 am

Rickw

The flu shot is guess work as to which strains they should aim for. There was year that I recall, pharma made a huge mistake.

How did you know if what you got was the flu or a cold?

I have one now and I can’t tell as the symptoms are the same.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 9:44 am

Winston Smith says:
October 13, 2022 at 8:55 am
JC:

Uncle Fester now goes to Zero Hedge for his science . FMD.
Take it to the Dueling thread, sunshine.

It doesn’t concern you. If you’re really upset write an email to the blog owner, dickhead. You’re good at snitching.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 13, 2022 9:51 am

Pedro the Loafer: I believe all RAN Officer cadets are required to be able to obtain a “fix” at sea using the sextant…

Nope, only if you’re a Seaman Branch officer, or other related disciplines.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2022 9:52 am

Talked to a colleague about how I hate “corporate art style” or “globohomo”.

Then I came across Soy Booru memes.

Oh god.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 9:54 am

Pfizer’s Covid drug Paxlovid – which was used to treat Biden – can cause deadly blood clots, study warns

. Medicine to treat heart conditions can become unsafe when taken with Paxlovid
. Coronary heart disease drugs prescribed with it mean a higher risk of blood clots
. And alongside immunosuppressants it can cause plasma to rise to toxic levels

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 13, 2022 9:57 am

Top Ender says:
October 13, 2022 at 9:51 am

Top Ender, the R.S.L. policy on the “Frontier Wars” Gallery at the AWM is over on the “Paywallen.”

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2022 9:58 am

‘ISIS brides’ will return to Sydney The Catholic Weekly – October 12, 2022

Seems to me Labor have just given the 50 000 or so Chaldean Christians living in Fairfield a very good reason not to vote for them.

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2022 10:01 am

Pfizer’s Covid drug Paxlovid can cause deadly blood clots, study warns

Another experimental medical therapy developed “at the speed of science”.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 13, 2022 10:03 am

The Harrison #4 chronometer is on display in the Royal Observatory at Greenwich. It is magnificent work of art as well as an incredible invention.

Pedro, I’ll see your chronometer and raise you the songlines of our 3rd nations.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 10:08 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 13, 2022 10:09 am

Ta, Zulu.

bons
bons
October 13, 2022 10:11 am

It’s not just the Navy that require ‘sun gun’ skills.
Mature cat aviators may recall the earlier Senior Commercial Pilots’ Licence flight planning module focused on navigation skills relevant to Catalinas or Super Connies but were totally irrelevant to contemporary aviation.
“But but, what if your triple redundant nav systems should fail”?
Enormous amount of study thrown in the bin as soon as you obtained your ticket.
Gotta love bureaucrats.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 13, 2022 10:15 am

Talked to a colleague about how I hate “corporate art style” or “globohomo”.

The blobby, long legged featureless bendy limbed pastel people?

Those ones?

it actually has a proper name.
Corporate Memphis

Not satan apparently.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 10:23 am

It’s been one of his policies for at least a few months but AZ Senate candidate Blake Masters is only now talking it up.
Any government employee that lost their job due to jab mandates are to get their jobs back, with backpay & all entitlements reinstated.
I’ve seen some coverage of it today focusing on the armed forces, but it’s for all government employees.
I think Rand Paul said something like this months ago but haven’t heard much since.

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 10:26 am

I see Emma Sullivan’s twitter account is protected.

rosie
rosie
October 13, 2022 10:30 am

Noticed a brave local Chinese lady yesterday driving a car completely covered in pro Falung Gong messages, obviously I could only read the English language versions.
More on Chinese police stations.
Following the release of the report, the ABC discovered an official “contact point” had been established in Sydney by the Department of Public Security in the Chinese city of Wenzhou in 2018.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 10:32 am

BLAME AMERICA FOR ALL YOUR TROUBLES.

Having a great defense is always a good idea but if it isn’t backed up by a good offensive capability, then failure becomes inevitable for the oldest of reasons. Your great defense has to succeed every time in stopping every attack, but their offense only needs to succeed once for you to lose. That’s a basic rule and applies from things as small as being the only one to get out of an eight by ten room alive to something as big as Army Group Centre taking on the First Guard’s Army in some titanic tank battle.

Two questions should have been posed to yourself by yourself and answered in a realistic fashion. What do I do if it all goes badly wrong? What do I do if it all goes brilliantly? The fabled plan B. Within the context of what’s rapidly becoming the Ukraine war, the first question is trivial. What’s left of the Ukrainian military in terms of surviving personnel is simply no match for the Red Army and the Biden administration has no stomach for a direct war with Russia, preferring instead to fight a proxy one using Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Bear in mind that the Russian’s recent partial mobilisation of 300,000 men represents only 1% of the Red Army’s strength.

If America isn’t going to get directly involved, then you can bet the house that NATO won’t, especially as all their arsenals will stay empty for the next few years because they’ll simply be too broke to replenish them.

Despite a lot of dissembling, denials and muddying of the water, it’s clear to everyone over 12 years old who lives outside the sphere of fake news propaganda in America that it was the Biden boneheads who blew up the two Nord Stream pipelines. That attribution is going to grow the deeper Western Europe tips into economic recession. Never mind the arrant nonsense the NYT, BBC, Guardian and the like are spouting, the ordinary guy in the street knows it was done by the Americans because they are the only party with anything to gain from such suicidal vandalism.

You’ve got to see the irony in it. Suddenly pipelines submerged and on land are now being patrolled by NATO countries to protect them from the boss of NATO whom everyone knows was behind the sabotage. How long the Turk Stream and Ukraine pipelines will last is anyone’s guess but you can bet the Turks will be aggressively patrolling the entrance to the Black Sea from now on.

In a more immediate response, Germany has just announced it won’t be sharing any of its precious hoard of winter fuel with any other EU countries. The message is simple – with the destruction of the pipelines then from now on it’s every country for itself when it comes to fuel. The EU dies, not with a whimper, but with a vicious dog on dog scrap for every precious drop of Russian fuel dripping off the sanctions table.

Into this general atmosphere, running a covert propaganda campaign in the West block that says all your troubles and misery were caused by your association with America and it doing crazy things like blowing up pipelines you depended on would find fertile ground. Even now, the 24/7 hate on Russia in the media is starting to show signs of fatigue and I can see blaming America for everything might easily become a very electable platform to run on.

Why not propose the eastern states of a now shattered EU join BRICS or some other type of loose economic union with Russia? The big carrot that can be dangled is that such an arrangement gets them off Russia’s “unfriendly country” shit list, which means they can get back to sucking on the teat of Russia’s energy and natural resources at reasonable prices again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 13, 2022 10:37 am

Comment, on the “Frontier Wars memorial” story, at the Oz.

John Steen
1 hour ago
Suddenly we had “First Nations”. Now we have “frontier wars”. Are there any other irrelevant American terms we can adopt? The American and the Australian indigenous people were world’s apart in development, and using American terms is just silly.

bons
bons
October 13, 2022 10:38 am

Oops. Air Transport Pilots’ Licence, not Senior Commercial.
Age.

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2022 10:40 am

Bear in mind that the Russian’s recent partial mobilisation of 300,000 men represents only 1% of the Red Army’s strength.

Erm…the Red Army hasn’t existed since 1946.

Carry on, but.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 10:43 am

Michael Malice sends out a warning tweet, saying he is about to drop a troll tweet.
Next, drops troll tweet (a fake tweet from Musk saying he’ll pay for Alex Jones ruling).
Then troll tweet lifts off, as you’d expect it would.

Megan
Megan
October 13, 2022 10:43 am

First comment on the link from Mater.

Dan
@Dan19Hatton
·
22h
Replying to
@jamessmithPT_
Least you’re big enough to apologise most will just back track

If you read further down the thread it takes barely a minute before the backtrackers leap in with their weak excuses and bleats of ‘it was never claimed it would reduce transmission’.

We are well outnumbered by the dolts and the terminally dumb these days.

132andBush
132andBush
October 13, 2022 10:49 am

Bespoke

But I’m not about to go around saying I told you to others as it serves no practical purpose.

Disagree.
This is not a “I told you if you drink that bottle of whisky in one night you’ll feel shit the next day” scenario.
This is about how we are governed and the calibre of the people, who choose as their profession, to govern us.
More than enough was known, if not at the start, then at least after three months, to show what they did was wrong. And then to impose vaccination mandates which are still being adhered to in some cases, also wrong.
So, yeah, I bloody well will say I told you so if any supporter of this bullshit starts backsliding on it.
Our society can not be run on media whipped hysteria and blind panic.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 10:50 am

If VIC Opposition Leader Guy had half a brain he would be running on this as well.

Dunno about that dover.
The half a brain part of your comment.
He’s got no more than around 20% operating.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 10:51 am

Tulsi Gabbard Quits Democrat Party and Slams Dems as “Elitist Cabal of Warmongers.”

Tulsi Gabhard, a former 2020 Democrat presidential candidate hauled off and punched the Democrat Party right in the mouth on Tuesday, then quit and started a podcast, “The Tulsi Gabbard Show.”

The quitting wasn’t much of a surprise, not after Democrats and their media allies rolled in political filth and portrayed Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran, as a traitor and Russian agent for daring to challenge the bi-partisan establishment War Party that seems determined to walk the U.S. ever closer to nuclear war.

And quisling Combine Republicans like the vengeful U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney, the milquetoast of Utah also known as “Reek,” and Jacobin sports media flamethrower Keith Olbermann branding her as a traitor and Putin stooge.

“When powerful, influential people make baseless accusations of treason,” she said in April, “they are sending a message to all Americans: if you dare to criticize the establishment’s narrative, you will be smeared and discredited. If this is allowed to continue, our democracy will be no more.”

But it does continue, aided and supported by media in displays of Orwellian hate directed at those who question the regime.

Yet on Tuesday, just four weeks until the midterm elections, Gabbard landed a whopping roundhouse punch. You might say that she witch-slapped the Democrats, but she hit them with a closed fist.

I’m sure America’s most well-known political troll, Hillary Clinton, has them gathering up dry firewood for a bonfire to her Clintonian vanity. And in the things you learn while looking up other things department, the word “bonfire” comes from old English, literally “fire of the bones.”

So, Clinton was willing enough to torch and destabilize the U.S. by attributing her 2016 election loss to that Russia collusion fantasy she paid for. And she was protected by corporate legacy media. What’s another witch-burning to her now?

But there is no ignoring it now, is there? Gabbard just said it clearly on Tuesday so all Americans could hear.

She didn’t leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left her.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 10:54 am

I thinking more on the personal level, Bush. (family and friends)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 10:54 am

Former Dem Gabbard Barnstorming for GOP Senate Nominee Bolduc

New Hampshire GOP Senate nominee Don Bolduc announced Wednesday the newly independent Tulsi Gabbard is going to go on a barnstorming campaign tour to stump for the conservative Senate candidate.

“@TulsiGabbard is a fellow change agent and independent-minded outsider willing to speak truth to power,” retired Army Brig. Gen. Bolduc tweeted Wednesday morning, linking to an official press release. “I’m honored to have her support and looking forward to barnstorming NH with her! #NHSEN.”

The announcement comes just one day after Gabbard made her departure from the Democratic Party official. Gabbard, who is a frequent guest on Newsmax, had run in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary as a moderate.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 13, 2022 10:55 am

Mate in NZ has just picked up a CZ-27 destined for the black market and has legally registered it through his club. rickw they are going through the same hassles over there with plod being hopeless in the registration department. In the more good news department he has finally realised the whole China Bat Flu Scam was just that, a scam. He has a mate, high up in the hospital system that told him the truth. He is so angry.

Zatara
Zatara
October 13, 2022 11:00 am

Any group whose past has not provided them with as many heroes, cultural contributions, or other glories as some other group’s past now has a grievance against those who write history. Apparently a past to your liking has become an entitlement.

– Thomas Sowell

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 11:02 am

Breaking news.
The African American ladies who were wearing the green body suits who robbed those punters on the NY subway last week, apparently they thought they would be invisible to cameras.
If this is true, their teachers should also face charges.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 13, 2022 11:08 am

I’m finding it very difficult to read Breitbart these days. Them highlighting the Freakshow running things is starting to depress me. Rational thinking has been cast to the wind. There’s more sanity in the lunatic asylum, not counting the staff of course. We see it everyday when munty expounds his worldly views, but he’s nothing in comparison to the looneys in government and the elite.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 11:08 am

feelthebernsays:
October 13, 2022 at 11:02 am
Breaking news.
The African American ladies who were wearing the green body suits who robbed those punters on the NY subway last week, apparently they thought they would be invisible to cameras.

You mean like Zelenskyy

I’ve told everyone on our podcast for months Zelenskyy was using green screens – believe me now?

Picture 1 and then picture 2

Make Peace Now
@DoctorGerhard
This is an example of this active president who may physically be in Hollywood.

The AP fact checkers have not yet found this photo.

It shows Zelinsky in optical reversal mode. There the green screen stays intact and the foreground person changes instead.

This surprise 3D avatar appears to predict Zelinsky back in his old job fairly soon.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 11:11 am

Dover

Jones lied and lied maliciously about the school kid mass murders. He accused the parents of being complicit to a propaganda charade, so yeah it is different to all the examples Sandwich provided. Jones deserved it. Period.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 11:15 am

Alex Jones Jury Delivers a Truly Insane Verdict

When it comes to this entire saga, I feel like I’ve been fair, and as I explained in a prior piece, it does look like Jones violated the plain letter of defamation law. But to the tune of nearly a billion dollars? That’s objectively insane, unprecedented, and completely unsupported by any logical calculation of damages that has ever been used in court before. I would also assume it’s a record when talking about a judgment against an individual person.

I saw a post earlier on social media where the largest fine paid by any executive after the 2008 financial collapse was $67 million.

This seems like a jump-the-shark moment for the court system, where the goal was to end Jones instead of just making him pay a fair amount.

And that’s really the goal here. That jury didn’t award $965 million because that makes sense. They awarded it because they want to bankrupt Jones and his outlet. In fact, Jen Psaki said the quiet part out loud on that.

I may not agree with Jones, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to rejoice at the court system being so blatantly abused. Compensatory damages have a legal definition. There is no way that nearly a billion dollars of damage, injury, or incurred loss was caused by Jones’ claims. What formula was even used to come up with that? Certainly not one that has ever been used before.

For that reason alone, I think this doesn’t survive appeal. Whatever court touches this next is likely to look at the verdict sideways because it’s just that far out there.

shatterzzz
October 13, 2022 11:18 am

For those that follow it .. BABYLON BERLIN season 4 is now out .. episodes 1 & 2 (with subs) are available ..

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 11:18 am

Jones is actually lucky one or more of the parents didn’t take him out. A very lucky fat guy.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 11:23 am

13 Sep 1952 – Oranges Rotting On Ground – Trove

Sir—We are asked to produce more, but when I walk through my orchard I see hundreds of cases of …

‘Graveyards’ filled with millions of oranges that have been marked from endless rain and hail pop up across Australia’s east coast – as farmers say they’re forced to dump the ‘unattractive’ fruit in paddocks

. Orange farmers across NSW forced to dump produce because of blemishes
. La Niña including the wet weather and hail has wreaked havoc on oranges
. Farmers blame fussy shoppers and supermarkets around east coast of Australia

Truckloads of fruit being dumped around the country

Farmers across Australia are dumping truckloads of fruit or letting their produce fall to the ground to rot.

Florida orange crop expected to plummet — even before Hurricane Ian impact measured

Florida’s orange crop is expected to plummet, even before destruction due to Hurricane Ian is taken into account.

The Department of Agriculture is forecasting that the crop will decline to levels that haven’t been seen since the 1940s.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 13, 2022 11:24 am

Rogersays:
October 13, 2022 at 9:58 am
‘ISIS brides’ will return to Sydney The Catholic Weekly – October 12, 2022

Seems to me Labor have just given the 50 000 or so Chaldean Christians living in Fairfield a very good reason not to vote for them.

Maybe he plans to settle the “ISIS brides” near his ex-wife?

But, really, they should all be settled in his electorate.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 13, 2022 11:27 am

The definition of an optimist.
Passed a guy on a flooded road driving a low arsed Porche.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 11:36 am

Connecting “Energy Inflation” With “Climate Extremism”

In the approaching 2022 midterm elections, American voters will have the opportunity to decide whether oil industry executives are really to blame for high energy prices—or if it’s instead the political class that needs a shakeup.

In a new report for Real Clear Energy, Joseph Toomey, a career-management consultant, makes a persuasive case that the energy inflation now victimizing American consumers and taxpayers is the result of deliberate public-policy choices made here at home. Even as President Biden vilifies energy companies, the evidence is overwhelming that the current regime in Washington is beholden to climate extremism at the expense of affordable energy, Toomey argues.

As Toomey explains, Biden is poised to create a new industry of climate activists who will use the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) as a conduit for constraining private enterprise with the ostensible purpose of achieving “net zero” carbon emissions.

Meantime, the president’s EPA regulators are doubling down on biofuel blending mandates, collectively known as the Renewable Fuel Standard, a byproduct of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. The onerous new rules impose retroactive compliance requirements over a two-year period. They’re just the latest of the Biden’s administration’s anti-energy initiatives. Recall that the president canceled the Keystone XL Pipeline on his first day in office and imposed a moratorium on oil and gas drilling on federal lands just a few days later. And Toomey documents a host of other choices that have put U.S. policy in the hands of “anti-energy zealots.”

Or consider two key Biden appointees: John Kerry, the administration’s climate envoy, and Gina McCarthy, top climate advisor, who served as EPA administrator under Barack Obama. Kerry has been a longtime proponent of the Paris Climate Accord, a U.N. agreement designed to put America last and China first. McCarthy, who recently left the White House, is a former president and CEO of the Natural Resources Defense Council, a green group with close ties to China.

Search for White House statements critical of China’s environmental record and you won’t find much. Biden did manage to express indignation when Xi Jinping, China’s president, declined to participate in the U.N. climate summit in Glasgow last year. But it hardly compares to the “harshly worded letter” addressed to American energy companies, as Toomey explains, in which Biden needled companies like ExxonMobil and Chevron for their “historically high profit margins for refining oil into gasoline.”

A major challenge besetting American industry is the accelerated pace of refinery closures. Several factors have played a role—but especially Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) polices, which, as Toomey points out, have found a home in corporate boardrooms and in the Biden White House. Over the next few months, and into 2024, we will see “significant refinery closures,” Toomey warns, in response to corporate America’s ESG-driven anti-carbon initiatives.

“These policies will see China become the world’s leading refiner for years to come,” Toomey warns, “and that fact doesn’t seem to bother anyone in Washington.”

But it should bother American voters.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 11:36 am

The definition of an optimist

You are to kind, Gez.

Razey
Razey
October 13, 2022 11:40 am

OldOzziesays:
October 13, 2022 at 11:15 am
Alex Jones Jury Delivers a Truly Insane Verdict

And nothing for the pure bloods who resisted and continue to resist government and social tyranny.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 13, 2022 11:40 am

Pattern detected

A Black Louisiana teenager has been identified as the person who posted a social media message late last month that threatened to kill Black people at an Alabama fair and used white supremacist imagery, police said Thursday.

Opelika police began investigating the Facebook post Sept. 19 where the poster, later identified as Smith, said he and his friends “are coming to [the] Opelika Alabama fair to kill every N3GRO that we lay eye contact on so be prepared. WH1TE POWER.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 11:44 am

In a new report for Real Clear Energy,

Energy Inflation – Was by Design

The West is experiencing its third energy crisis. The first, in 1973, was caused by the near-quintupling of the price of crude oil by Gulf oil producers in response to America’s support for Israel in the Yom Kippur war.

This time is different. The third energy crisis was not sparked by Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies or by Iranian ayatollahs. It was self-inflicted, a foreseeable outcome of policy choices made by the West: Germany’s disastrous Energiewende that empowered Vladimir Putin to launch an energy war against Europe; Britain’s self-regarding and self-destructive policy of “powering past coal” and its decision to ban fracking; and, as Joseph Toomey shows in his powerful essay, President Biden’s war on the American oil and gas industry.

Hostilities were declared during Joe Biden’s campaign for the Democrat- ic presidential nomination. “I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel,” candidate Biden told a climate activist in September 2019, words that the White House surely hopes get lost down a memory hole. Toomey’s paper has all the receipts, so there’s no danger of that. As he observes, Biden’s position in 2022 resembles Barack Obama’s in 2012, when rising gas prices threatened to sink his reelection. Obama responded with a ruthlessness that his erstwhile running mate lacks. He simply stopped talking about climate and switched to an all-of-the- above energy policy, shamelessly claiming credit for the fracking revolution that his own EPA tried to strangle at birth.

Passage of the comically mistitled Inflation Reduction Act places this option beyond Biden’s reach, even if he were so inclined. Democrats are hardly going to take a vow of climate omerta? when they’ve achieved a political triumph of pushing through Congress what they regard as the most significant climate legislation to date. Although the price of oil has slipped back from recent highs, the factors behind high gasoline prices remain in place. Foremost among these is the steep decline in U.S. oil refinery capacity triggered when Covid lockdowns crushed demand but continued after the economy reopened. There has never been such a large fall in operable refinery capacity. Moreover, Gulf Coast refineries were operating at 97 percent of their operating capacity in June 2022. As Toomey remarks, “There isn’t any more blood to be squeezed out of this turnip.”

Toomey identifies five factors driving this decline in refinery capacity.

An Extremely Long and Fascinating Paper – have downloaded

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 13, 2022 11:55 am

You mean like Zelenskyy

I’ve told everyone on our podcast for months Zelenskyy was using green screens – believe me now?

This was obvious in one of the clips shown the other night after the rocket attacks. As soon as it started I said greenscreen.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 11:56 am

My view on Alex Jones, DB?
Depends.
Part of me thinks play a stupid game, win a stupid prize.
But then another part of me wonders how a jury can essentially override a range of laws & precedents with regards to defamation & incitement, etc.

The boarder issue is if the process can do this to Alex Jones, we all know it’s the thin edge of the wedge.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2022 12:00 pm

The African American ladies who were wearing the green body suits who robbed those punters on the NY subway last week, apparently they thought they would be invisible to cameras.

Bern – worse than that, they’re invisible to the justice system.

Highlights of the News (Surber, 12 Oct)

ITEM 4: The New York Post reported, “An alleged member of the neon-cloaked Green Goblin gang accused of pummeling two 19-year-old women on a Times Square subway train was released without bail Tuesday — with her lawyer insisting she didn’t do anything wrong.

“Mariam Issouf, 26, was cut loose on supervised release after being arraigned on a second-degree robbery charge in the Oct. 2 caught-on-video assault — one day after she turned herself in to cops with her defense attorney at her side.”

I think it’s darkly comedic that greens want people to ride on public transport to save the planet but allow green muggers free rein to assault the people riding on it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 12:01 pm

One of the things I was watching this morning is regardless of how something gets amplified, precedent in the US is that the reach of the originator’s comments is critical.
That is, if you same something on CNN or Foxnews & you defame someone, you’re up shit creek.
But if you defame someone in a newsletter/blog with limited reach, penalties are limited regardless if it goes viral after the fact.
Considering Infowars limited reach, the ruling blows all precedent up.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 13, 2022 12:02 pm

Alex Jones is an idiot but the payout is more proof that lawyers and courts are being run by shake down merchants.
Close the law schools for a decade and nobody will notice the the lack of lawyers but the world will improve.

Cassie of Sydney
October 13, 2022 12:04 pm

“Part of me thinks play a stupid game, win a stupid prize.
But then another part of me wonders how a jury can essentially override a range of laws & precedents with regards to defamation & incitement, etc.

The boarder issue is if the process can do this to Alex Jones, we all know it’s the thin edge of the wedge.”

Agree.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2022 12:05 pm

As soon as it started I said greenscreen.

Putin does as well. I’ve seen him wave his hands through solid objects a couple of times.
Pretty good way for a leader to get more stuff done, rather than having to waste time travelling.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:06 pm

Texas Tech Faculty Shrews Team Up to Cancel Kayleigh McEnaney

During a recent man-on-the-street interview with a gay man, Steven Crowder said that he had spent the day asking people if they were proud to be Americans. People of all colors and sexes said they were, except white women. He commented:

“I have a joke in standup, ‘We don’t need to build a wall on the southern border, we need one around every single Pottery Barn. Just seal them in until 2025.’ Because they all become teachers, sorry, true heroes, and they have never worked in the private sector, most of them are public school teachers.

We’ve even said this today, look, you’re a gay man, you know this better than I do. If you see a woman and she’s attractive, and she’s with a man, she’s happy, she’s conservative. If you see a woman who’s past the point of her window, and she’s single, she’s miserable or she’s unattractive, she’s always liberal.”

He added that the only demographic with which Joe Biden enjoys favorability is suburban white women. He also said that these women are trying to speak for the gays, blacks, Hispanics, etc.

Before someone screams “Misogyny!” consider the following:

Members of the faculty of Texas Tech are planning a pre-emptive strike against an appearance at the college by Kayleigh McEnaney. The event is sponsored by Young Conservatives of Texas and is slated for this Saturday. McEnaney will talk about her time as press secretary for Donald Trump. The plan is to reserve as many tickets as possible and then have no one show up. The faculty members have been posting the idea on social media, and judging by a piece on Campus Reform, those objecting to McEnaney’s appearance are almost exclusively female.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 12:11 pm

I was on a conference call this morning.
Since BHP settled an iron ore contract in RMB, China Inc has sent notices to Rio, Vale & Fortescue informing them of their intent to move a small proportion of all iron ore contracts to RMB.
& citing the “success” of the BHP contract.
What a time to be alive.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:12 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
October 13, 2022 at 12:02 pm
Alex Jones is an idiot but the payout is more proof that lawyers and courts are being run by shake down merchants.

Close the law schools for a decade and nobody will notice the the lack of lawyers but the world will improve.

A Fact known for centuries – HENRY THE SIXTH, PART 2 ACT 4, SCENE 2, 71-78

The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.

Dick the butcher, a character no one remembers, utters one of the few memorable lines from the entire three-part Henry the Sixth cycle. Dick’s Utopian idea to kill all England’s lawyers is his addition to the promises of the traitorous Jack Cade, who envisions a quasi-communistic social revolution, with himself installed as autocrat. Cade alleges that all lawyers do is shuffle parchments back and forth in a systematic attempt to ruin the common people. His demagoguery is simply a calculated appeal to simple folks’ longing to be left alone. Yet one may recognize Cade’s moral failings and still sympathize with Dick.

In 1987, three Supreme Court Justices convened for a mock trial, in which representatives of the poetaster Edward de Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford (1550–1604), challenged Shakespeare’s authorship of the plays. The president of American University in Washington, D.C., which sponsored the event, “drew some nervous laughter from the legal contingent in the crowd,” the New York Times reported, “when he yielded to the temptation to quote the world’s most-quoted English author (whoever he was) by saying, ‘The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers. . . .’” Unsurprisingly, the justices ruled in favor of the Bard of Avon.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 12:16 pm

Or not — this feels way too close to the 4Chan trollers convincing the DNC-MSM that the “Okay” hand gesture is racist (except when Biden flashes it of course). But if you’re a fan of Happy Days, it might be wise to buy its seasons on physical media before all of Fonzie’s thumbs up gestures are edited out.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:16 pm

Let’s be clear, none of the examples cited by Sandwich comes close to what Jones said about the parents. If there was ever case where American defamation laws applied, it’s with Jones and what he said.

In any event, jury awards in the US are rarely held, so let’s see what happens.

Also, I believe Trump should have an excellent case against CNN as they are serial defamers in the most malicious way.

There have been cases of folks on the Right winning awards.

1. The case against Oberlin college.

2. The Christian kid being maliciously treated by the msm.

Both these parties won awards so it’s all not one sided.

132andBush
132andBush
October 13, 2022 12:19 pm

bespoke says:
October 13, 2022 at 10:54 am
I thinking more on the personal level, Bush. (family and friends)

Fair enough.
Even then …

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:20 pm

feelthebern says:
October 13, 2022 at 12:11 pm
I was on a conference call this morning.
Since BHP settled an iron ore contract in RMB, China Inc has sent notices to Rio, Vale & Fortescue informing them of their intent to move a small proportion of all iron ore contracts to RMB.
& citing the “success” of the BHP contract.
What a time to be alive.

Bern, wouldn’t the producers simply sell their receipts for US dollars or Aussie.
Also the RMB price would be equivalent to the US Dollar spot price.

I don’t think it really matters all that much because they aren’t going to hold RMB.

What do you think?

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 12:23 pm

The problem isn’t lawyers it the inconsistent and obscure laws.

cohenite
October 13, 2022 12:24 pm

We’ve even said this today, look, you’re a gay man, you know this better than I do. If you see a woman and she’s attractive, and she’s with a man, she’s happy, she’s conservative. If you see a woman who’s past the point of her window, and she’s single, she’s miserable or she’s unattractive, she’s always liberal.”

Yeah, I know a few older, single, childless women; they’re uniformly sad lefties. I sat next to one in a doctor’s waiting room recently. We got talking about how tough things were due to alarmism. She said she didn’t care one way or the other about alarmism, but she supported everything which made life harder for people. It was really a deep level of hate. We can’t sympathise with them though because as is observed they really are the driving force behind a lot of really destructive, woke policies. I haven’t really examined the psychology behind this syndrome though, but I think it will be based on the fundamental gap between biology and prevailing societal values.

(This comment does not apply to childless women, single or otherwise, on this thread)

cohenite
October 13, 2022 12:26 pm

The problem isn’t lawyers

Well said!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 13, 2022 12:26 pm

Daily Mail.

Twist in Brittany Higgins trial as judge says evidence is expected to wrap up by next Tuesday – as ex-staffer is absent for a fourth day: Here’s what to expect when she returns tomorrow

Brittany Higgins is expected to return to her rape trial on Friday morning
Chief Justice Lucy McCallum told jury the case could close by Tuesday
She alleges Bruce Lehrmann had sex with her while she slept in March 2019
He has pleaded not guilty to one charge of sexual intercourse without consent
She has been absent for four days of the trial so far, which started last Tuesday

duncanm
duncanm
October 13, 2022 12:26 pm

In a more immediate response, Germany has just announced it won’t be sharing any of its precious hoard of winter fuel with any other EU countries.

could this be the beginning of the end for the big EU experiment ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2022 12:27 pm

Attacking the nuclear family has always been central to the politics of the Left.

cohenite
October 13, 2022 12:30 pm

I’m not sure who Jones defamed. His comments were dreadfully insensitive, but he didn’t defame the parents, as far as I can see. But what do I know, I’m just a purveyor of cute owls.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:30 pm

Okay, let’s go back to the Tape. What did Jones say and how many times did he push the point that the parents were in on some form of false flag operation?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:34 pm

DISGRACE: Joe Biden Falsely Claims Son Beau ‘Lost His Life in Iraq’

He also reportedly kept talking about Beau while visiting with the family members of U.S. servicemembers who died during his botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

“When he just kept talking about his son so much it was just — my interest was lost in that,” said Mark Schmitz, whose 20-year-old son Jared died in Kabul. “I was more focused on my own son than what happened with him and his son. I’m not trying to insult the president, but it just didn’t seem that appropriate to spend that much time on his own son.”

The family of fallen Marine Rylee McCollum also reported that when they met with Biden, “he kept checking his watch and bringing up Beau.”

It was grossly inappropriate for him to constantly invoke his son who died of brain cancer as though it was the same thing as if he had lost his life while serving our country.

But on Wednesday while giving a speech in Colorado, Biden claimed that Beau actually lost his life in Iraq.- 1 min 2 secs

Biden’s brain might be Swiss-cheesed, but it’s hard to wrap my head around the idea that he would have forgotten how his own son died. So this naturally begs the question as to whether Biden was confused because of how often he brings up Beau as though he was a war casualty or whether he just thinks it makes him look better to say he was.

And frankly I don’t know which answer is worse.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:36 pm

His comments were dreadfully insensitive,

By definition, isn’t all defamation dreadfully insensitive?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 12:36 pm

JC it’s more a case of the Chinese throwing their weight around with the cartel.
And just being a pest to the US.
Roll the clock back 10 years this wouldn’t have happened.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2022 12:40 pm

Jones said the participants in a range of interviews after Sandy Hook were not the parents but crisis actors.
He then pivoted to saying they were the parents but all on drugs.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 13, 2022 12:40 pm

Biden really is a piece of shit. Shame on anyone who ever voted for this piece of low rent trash.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 13, 2022 12:40 pm

JCsays:

October 13, 2022 at 11:11 am

Dover

Jones lied and lied maliciously about the school kid mass murders. He accused the parents of being complicit to a propaganda charade, so yeah it is different to all the examples Sandwich provided. Jones deserved it. Period.

Correct. If it wasn’t malicious it was Annie level “red shoes in tunnels” crazy to be suggesting the whole thing was a fiction involving paid actors. By all means, argue that $1 billion is a ridiculous award of damages but to me that is a distraction. It is actually an attempt to absolve him of any responsibility for his actions, rather than argue the quantum of damages. I didn’t see anywhere in those arguments anyone advancing a case that he should pay some lesser amount of damages.

JCsays:

October 13, 2022 at 11:18 am

Jones is actually lucky one or more of the parents didn’t take him out. A very lucky fat guy.

Yep. I would have been unbelievably angry if I had just buried the shredded body of my six year old only to hear Jones say I was part of some anti-gun conspiracy.
The good thing about taking him out is that you could just say it was all stunt-double Hollywood stuff, and Jones was alive and well and living on Epstein’s island.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:42 pm

What do you call a thousand lawyers chained together at the bottom of the ocean?

In the 1993 legal drama “Philadelphia”, Tom Hanks asks Denzel Washington;

“What do you call a thousand lawyers chained together at the bottom of the ocean?”

“A good start.”

duncanm
duncanm
October 13, 2022 12:42 pm

Brittany Higgins is expected to return to her rape trial on Friday morning
Chief Justice Lucy McCallum told jury the case could close by Tuesday

Does this sound like Lehrmann won’t be taking the stand?

mc
mc
October 13, 2022 12:42 pm

At least all this rain over the roads in Vic is covering up the pot holes….oh wait, that might not be so good.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:44 pm

Yep, Jones is a dirtbag.

Lawsuits
On April 16, 2018, Neil Heslin, father of victim Jesse Lewis, filed a defamation suit against Jones, Infowars and Free Speech Systems in Travis County, Texas.[234] Later that day, Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, parents of victim Noah Pozner, filed a defamation suit against them as well.[235] Pozner, who has been forced to move several times to avoid harassment and death threats, was accused by Jones of being a crisis actor.[236] Jones was found to be in contempt of court even before the trial started, failing to produce witnesses and materials relevant to the procedures. Consequently, Jones and Infowars were fined a total of $126,000 in October and December 2019.[237]

On June 26, 2018, six families of victims and an FBI agent who responded to the attack filed a defamation lawsuit in Connecticut Superior Court against Jones, Infowars, Free Speech Systems, Infowars Health and others for spreading false claims, resulting in the harassment, stalking and threatening of survivors.[238][239][240][241][242] On March 25, 2019, Jeremy Richman, one of the plaintiffs, whose daughter Avielle was killed, committed suicide. Jones, through his lawyer, offered condolences to Richman’s family, then later that day on his show suggested that Richman had been murdered, and that his death had something to do with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference.[243]

On July 24, 2018, William Sherlach, husband of victim and school psychologist Mary Sherlach, filed a defamation lawsuit in Connecticut Superior Court against Jones, Infowars, Free Speech Systems and Infowars Health

cohenite
October 13, 2022 12:46 pm

Okay, let’s go back to the Tape. What did Jones say and how many times did he push the point that the parents were in on some form of false flag operation?

So, he’s on tape as saying the parents of the dead kids were part of the conspiracy. If that’s true, that’s different.

Jones said the participants in a range of interviews after Sandy Hook were not the parents but crisis actors.
He then pivoted to saying they were the parents but all on drugs.

He said that!? FMD.

bespoke
bespoke
October 13, 2022 12:46 pm

It was grossly inappropriate for him to constantly invoke his son who died of brain cancer as though it was the same thing as if he had lost his life while serving our country.

This ‘identifying’ with others on the slimmest of pretext is as toxic as the affirmation culture.

duncanm
duncanm
October 13, 2022 12:47 pm

Does this sound like Lehrmann won’t be taking the stand?

talking to myself.. we don’t know what’s been happening since Brihnee had a case of the vapours, so Lehrmann may have already been on the stand.

JC
JC
October 13, 2022 12:50 pm

Yeah, he did Cronkers.

He’s all class. I can’t imagine the pain of your kid getting getting killed at school and then this fat mouthed obesity saying i and others had staged it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:51 pm

America’s energy chaos is Biden’s fault. As we pay at the pump, will Democrats pay in midterms?

Biden’s war on American energy has him begging foreign countries for oil instead of drilling here

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 13, 2022 12:53 pm

It should never have got to the point where Jones was sued for a ridiculous amount of cash that will never be paid.

Jones is actually lucky one or more of the parents didn’t take him out. A very lucky fat guy.

Jones should have been subject to the mother of all hidings by the largest and fittest parents of those children. In public. Once suitably crippled, shamed to the point he was forever unemployable, and compelled to live under a cardboard box next to a bridge giving out handjobs for food.

But not sued.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 13, 2022 12:53 pm

DC deputy mayor for public safety resigns after being charged with assault that was caught-on-camera

D.C. Deputy Mayor Christopher Geldart allegedly assaulted someone outside a gym in Arlington, Virginia

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 13, 2022 12:53 pm

The problem isn’t lawyers it the inconsistent and obscure laws.

Laws made by parliaments absolutely chock a block full of lawyers.
I rest my case.

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