Open Thread – Weekend 22 Oct 2022


Deluge, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1864

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Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 6:33 pm
duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 6:34 pm

And yes XXXX lite beer exists.

Can someone explain to me what happened with the Qld basement beer situation?

Was up in FNQ recently and everything was Great Northern. Where did the XXXX go ?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
October 24, 2022 6:36 pm

Gina Hancock is not a woman to ‘mess’ with,..just ask her own kids.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 6:37 pm

It’s hilarious because Ukraine has no chance whatsoever of pinning a dirty bomb on Russia, because Russia has actual nukes. Why would Russia let off a conventional explosive-powered nuclear waste dirty bomb if she could just use a nuclear weapon instead?

Except that all the western media and governments will run with the “Russian” dirty bomb. It’s all part of the propaganda war and would be used to justify NATO boots on the ground.

Johnny Rotten
October 24, 2022 6:37 pm

The commanding officer at the Russian Military Academy (the equivalent of a 4-star general in the U.S.) gave a lecture on ‘Potential Problems and Military Strategy’.

At the end of the lecture, he asked, were there questions?

An officer stood up and asked “Will there be a third world war? And will Russia take part in it?” The general answered both questions in the affirmative.

Another officer asked “Who will be the enemy?” The general replied “All indications point to China”. Everyone in the audience was shocked.

A third officer remarked “General, we are a nation of only 145 million, compared to the 1.4 billion Chinese. Can we win at all, or even survive?” The general answered “Just think about this for a moment: In modern warfare, it is not the quantity of soldiers that matters but the quality of an army’s capabilities. For example, in the Middle East we have had a few wars recently where 5 million Jews fought against 150 million Arabs, and Israel was always victorious”.

After a small pause, yet another officer from the back of the auditorium asked “Do we have enough Jews?”

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 6:37 pm

Dalta A, is your brother married to a German lady? I believe IT was.

dopey
dopey
October 24, 2022 6:38 pm

Jurors don’t understand their duty. They are not required to reach agreement. They may agree or they may not agree. If they are unable to reach a verdict they should say so.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 6:38 pm

Harsh words TFM.
You vill regret them.

How, you going to make me drink the stuff?
ill chuck a redbeard Rum before I submit to XXXX

Johnny Rotten
October 24, 2022 6:39 pm

Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can’t help them, at least don’t hurt them.

– Dalai Lama

Chris
Chris
October 24, 2022 6:39 pm

Struth, you should give yourself an uppercut for that.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 6:40 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 6:42 pm

Gina Hancock is not a woman to ‘mess’ with,..just ask her own kids.

Her own kids, two of them, unfortunately show exactly what the woke netballers are like. There’s no reasoning with the Borg collective.

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 6:45 pm

ill chuck a redbeard Rum before I submit to XXXX

May have to revise my opinion of moles.

Nope.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 6:47 pm

IT has young children, a daughter born 2014/2015 maybe, son slightly older?

calli
calli
October 24, 2022 6:49 pm

Jurors don’t understand their duty. They are not required to reach agreement. They may agree or they may not agree. If they are unable to reach a verdict they should say so.

If they can’t reach a verdict after four days, then “reasonable doubt” must come into play.

If it doesn’t then you can safely assume there’s some behind the scenes browbeating going on. It doesn’t matter in which direction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 6:49 pm

Except that all the western media and governments will run with the “Russian” dirty bomb.

Eyrie – The other argument is that Russia is softening up the media et al before actual use of tac nukes. By “responding” to a dirty bomb they can “justify” their use of real nukes. Except that Ukraine would never let one off for the reasons I outlined.

The RGS has all these weapons just sitting around, and there’s a lot of pressure on them from the more excitable parts of the Russian punditocracy to use them. But they can only do that if they have a just cause.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 24, 2022 6:49 pm

Dr Jordan Peterson’s Sydney speaking tour targeted by left-wing protesters

Controversial Canadian author Dr Jordan Peterson, whose comments around gender and politics make him “hated” by the left, is coming back to Sydney.

Sydney university students will protest outside controversial personality Dr Jordan Peterson’s speaking tour in Australia next month.

Dr Peterson was banned on Twitter earlier this year and consistently finds himself in the headlines for his comments around gender issues, politics and sexuality.

The author, who only eats meat, has shows in Sydney in November and December in the Aware Super Theatre at the International Convention Centre.

Sydney University Community Action of Rainbow Rights member Owen Marsden-Readford said he would protest outside the events in hopes to counter Peterson’s messages.

“I think if you take a pretty cursory look at what Jordan Peterson has to say about the world, it’s obvious he’s a hard right reactionary,” he said.

“This is someone who thinks women have too many rights and demand too much of the world.

“To someone that goes around touring to speak to far right audiences and speaks consistently at far right events, he’s constantly building up a far right base.”

The 60-year-old was banned from Twitter after posting comments about transgender athletes and women.

“Sorry. Not beautiful,” he wrote about a Sports Illustrated cover. “And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.”

Women’s rights activist Hersha Kadkol led a protest the last time Dr Peterson was on tour and planned to stand up to the Canadian.

She said she was hoping to start gaining victories over voices like Mr Peterson in an attempt to make left-wing views more prominent in the world.

“I hope that he and people like him lose their influence in society, and I hope that they are defeated politically by people who are on the left and have some decency,” she said.

“I hate Jordan Peterson, I hate his views and I think he knows exactly the type of audience he’s trying to appeal to, and it’s on the basis of defending an unequal social order and teaching young men that they should be proud to adopt a certain place in the top of that order.”

The two said it was a danger if the critically acclaimed author comes to Australia to spread his views as his influence is astonishingly big already.

“Yes it is a danger because I think he is toxic and obnoxious, they’re all about saying and celebrating everything that’s wrong in the world, and they’re trying to make it worse.” Mr Readford said.

Although hated by some groups Dr Peterson has built a large following, with many fans supporting the author any chance they can get. Dr Peterson is expected to sell out both Sydney shows.

Daily Tele

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 6:50 pm

Ahh…I do miss the Infidel Tiger King.

AKA Zac Kircup…

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
October 24, 2022 6:52 pm

Its been a big day here in the West. exporting Iron Ore , Gas , Wheat, Sheep and Cattle to keep the rest of Aust. living in luxury. Its a big job , but we dont mind.

calli
calli
October 24, 2022 6:53 pm

IT changed when he went Artisan.

Never go full Artisan.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 6:54 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 6:57 pm

Her own kids, two of them, unfortunately show exactly what the woke netballers are like. There’s no reasoning with the Borg collective.

Not a bad comparison.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 6:58 pm

Stretching a long bow there, BoN. Zelensky is desperate and most of what is left of his Army will be dead by New Year unless something changes. He’d use a dirty bomb to get NATO boots on the ground. No more layers of intrigue needed.
Ukraine has access to nuclear waste from its power plants.
Occam’s Razor.
The Russians aren’t going to use nukes to kill Zelensky’s Army. They don’t need them for that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 6:59 pm

She’s not wrong

There was a large protest on Friday against mutilating children. Thousands were there.
How odd that it didn’t receive wall to wall coverage from the MSM.

Rally Against ‘Child Mutilation’ Draws Thousands Of Supporters (24 Oct)

They’ll probably get swatted by the FBI.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 7:00 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 7:01 pm

Never go full Artisan.

There goes the farmers markets.
Disclosure: I used to get my bread from a farmers market. But I used to argue with the Sea Shepherd guys. We learned to ignore each other,

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 7:01 pm

All traces of Western Civilisation is to be removed!

‘All existing infrastructure should be removed with the minimal amount of impact.’

The entire park will be closed:

Who cares?
I’ve never been to a National Park and I consider walking up Mount Warning to be tempting fate.
There’s plenty more scrub and swamp to walk around in circles in, 2 Million Square Miles, to be exact.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 7:02 pm

http://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au
Nice perfectly fitting URL ” criminal lawyers”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 7:06 pm

Lotta backpackers in national parks Groogs. All that lovely skin just walking around.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 7:07 pm

Scroll down to the meme in the first comment. This is what concerns me most, and has for some time.

Qdified
@Qdified

I believe THIS LCB and @ROYALMRBADNEWS been warning for a month or so! STAY SAFE

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 7:09 pm
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duncanmsays:
October 24, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Can someone explain to me what happened with the Qld basement beer situation?
Was up in FNQ recently and everything was Great Northern. Where did the XXXX go ?

Great Northern is everywhere. It is Australia’s biggest selling beer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 7:16 pm

Stretching a long bow there, BoN. Zelensky is desperate and most of what is left of his Army will be dead by New Year unless something changes.

Eyrie – You’re reading too many Russophile sites. The Ukrainian Army is in pretty good shape from what I see. Their reserves retraining program has been steady and professional. I think they’re up to the seventh intake. The problem the UGS has isn’t warm bodies, it’s ammo. And support, since they can’t use air assets and they’re out-gunned in the artillery department.

On the other hand I am seeing severe manpower problems on the Russian side. The recent call up of reserves has seen many appear at the front about a week after call up. Without retraining. That is a sign of desperation, not of strength. Reserves need a couple months in camp to get back to readiness.

I agree that Russia can bury Ukraine if they really try, but so far what I’ve seen is not promising. Very badly organized, plus endemic logistical issues.

The winter period will be interesting. I think the Russians may not do as well as many predict – because of personnel problems. I could be wrong, often am.

Mater
October 24, 2022 7:17 pm

Great Northern is everywhere. It is Australia’s biggest selling beer.

Because it’s an unpretentious, clean, crisp beer.
Back to basics…thank God!

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 7:19 pm

Great Northern is everywhere

Never heard of it.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2022 7:20 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 7:20 pm

You are reading too many CIA propaganda sites, BoN.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 7:20 pm
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duncanm:
XXXX is a southern beer. It was never as big in NQ, though it had an increased presence during the recent XXXX Gold supremacy, when the entire nation was swathed in XXXX yellow.
About 10 years ago Great Northern started getting real traction, & now outsells XXXX by about 4 to 1 at my place.

By 2016 the Great Northern incursion was really knocking Lion around. The area manager for XXXX gave me a long tirade over the phone (over some minor matter), the entire time his voice was in that screeching fast babbling high pitch of a very panicked man.

When the call ended, I leaned back in the chair & told the rest of the office that Great Northern must be knocking XXXX around far more than anybody realises.

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bespoke says: October 24, 2022 at 7:19 pm
Great Northern is everywhere
Never heard of it.

Move to Australia dude – it’s the biggest selling beer. (Black fish label)
the White fish label version is in the top 5 Australian sellers – making the Great Northern brand one helluva winner for Carlton & United.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 7:27 pm

Because it’s an unpretentious, clean, crisp beer.
Back to basics…thank God!

It’s the beer version of a black and tan kelpie dog!

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 7:28 pm

Jeez, just spoke to a bloke from near Swan Hill.

173mm overnight/this morning.
Nearly all crops eliminated.

Did that head your way, Gez?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 7:31 pm

the entire time his voice was in that screeching fast babbling high pitch of a very panicked man.

When you spend your time fighting for the 2nd decimal point of market share every litre counts.

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 7:31 pm

Move to Australia

Chuckle!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 24, 2022 7:32 pm

About 30mm for the last few days.
Didn’t want it but grateful it wasn’t a lot more. Fifty to sixty not far away.
I saw big totals around Griffith. Did you miss that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 7:33 pm

Jeez, just spoke to a bloke from near Swan Hill.
173mm overnight/this morning.
Nearly all crops eliminated.

Get into eels.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 7:37 pm

Its anti democratic not to outsource making laws to the unelected unaccountable blob of the EU!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/oct/24/post-brexit-proposals-mean-2400-laws-could-disappear-lawyers-warn

Leading lawyers have sounded the alarm over Jacob Rees-Mogg’s proposals for post-Brexit legislation that could result in 2,400 laws disappearing overnight – including a ban on animal testing for cosmetics, workers’ rights and environmental protections.

Swathes of laws including equal pay for men and women, pension rights for same-sex married couples, food standards and aviation safety rules could accidentally disappear or be redrafted poorly, they warn.

The retained EU law (revocation and reform) bill will get its second reading on Tuesday. It was designed in such a way that 47 years of laws devised during EU membership will be switched off on 31 December 2023 under a so-called sunset clause.


“Ministers must act now to reassure everyone that hard-won ?protection won’t be shredded. A free-for-all ?giving the green light to unscrupulous bosses ?is not the ?route to economic growth.

“All of this is deeply objectionable on two grounds – it is anti-democratic and it is anti-growth,” said Peretz, pointing out that employers need legal certainty on employment laws, technical standards and other matters before expanding or investing.

“We are a democracy and we have a process of making law in parliament. People can write to their MPs, industry gets consulted, we have debates in the House of Commons and in the Lords. This is a completely anti-democratic process,” he added.

And yet this same person was happy to get rid of pretty well all those processes and allow the EU to make law instead.
Now they have to actually look at their own legislation before its rubber stamped.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 7:38 pm

Great Northern is everywhere

Rebranded XXXX.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 24, 2022 7:38 pm

But any potential sponsor would be looking at this and asking, “Why would I put my money anywhere near that shit-show?”

Quite so

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 7:38 pm

They laughed at my crayon drawing. I laughed at their chalk outline.

H/T internet.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 24, 2022 7:40 pm

Delta A, is your brother married to a German lady? I believe IT was.

Furthermore, does your brother’s wife own a thermomix?

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 7:42 pm

LOL

Documents detail plans to gut Twitter’s workforce
Previously unreported details shed new light on Twitter’s motivations for selling the company — and Elon Musk’s plans to transform it

Twitter’s workforce is likely to be hit with massive cuts in the coming months, no matter who owns the company, interviews and documents obtained by The Washington Post show, a change likely to have major impact on its ability to control harmful content and prevent data security crises.

Elon Musk told prospective investors in his deal to buy the company that he planned to get rid of nearly 75 percent of Twitter’s 7,500 workers, whittling the company down to a skeleton staff of just over 2,000.

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Mater says: October 24, 2022 at 7:17 pm

Great Northern is everywhere. It is Australia’s biggest selling beer.

Because it’s an unpretentious, clean, crisp beer.
Back to basics…thank God!

When it first came out, it was near impossible to sell.
Carlton sponsored it, by subsiding a 15 fluid oz glass to be sold for $2 or something.

Still didn’t sell. I took it off tap after a few months & Carlton comped me the price of the kegs I already had.

I don’t even recall putting is back on pour, but a couple of years later it was on tap again & held its own.
Slowly it started to gain traction, until May 2016 when I sold an equal amount of CUB beer as Lion beer.
This had never happened before. It was such a watershed occasion we actually held a “crossover party” to mark the event.

Mater
October 24, 2022 7:45 pm

It’s the beer version of a black and tan kelpie dog!

Except your neighbours bottle of Great Northern doesn’t tend to slip under the fence to service your bottle of Great Northern, leaving you to deal with a whole batch of throwdowns to dispose of.

😉

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 7:45 pm

You are reading too many CIA propaganda sites, BoN.

😀
The idea is to read everything. I’ll add that I’ve been doing multiplayer wargaming for several decades, and the interplay of opponents does give a feel for the strategies. Diplomacy (the boardgame) was one of the best. I was pretty good at it although eventually lost interest. Kennedy and Kissinger used to play it as a teaching tool.

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Sancho Panzer (in the most clueless & uninformed comment ever seen on the Cat) says:

Great Northern…
Rebranded XXXX.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 24, 2022 7:47 pm

One loudmouth at the bar was telling a group including women about the time he managed to shake hands with ‘Trump’ and give his hand a trick shock. He looked for appreciation along the bar and got mild appreciation of his self-awarding cleverness but ended his swoop looking at me for his final accolade.

Lizzie, he’s a liar.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 7:53 pm

Sancho Panzer (in the most clueless & uninformed comment ever seen on the Cat) says:

Special Ed, “Hold my XXXX”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 7:54 pm

132andBushsays:

October 24, 2022 at 7:28 pm

Jeez, just spoke to a bloke from near Swan Hill.

173mm overnight/this morning.

Jeez.
We’ve had 145 for September and October so far a bit further South.
OK, it’s going to be 25% above average, but nothing remarkable (our highest has been 225 and lowest 35 for the same period).
Here’s the thing.
The BoMs will cherry-pick a few locations which have had OTT rain and present it like it has happened everywhere.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 7:55 pm

Special Ed, “Hold my XXXX”.

Hang on!
I think I’ve got two on this line!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 7:56 pm

For example in the Kherson front I think the strategy is indeed to pull back over the river in good order then blow the dam. That pretty much would wall off the whole southern sector since Ukraine doesn’t have the capability to force bridge crossings over such distances – a massively flooded ginormous river.

Then once that front is denied to the Ukrainians present a peace deal, or cease fire, on the existing front lines. That would be in Russia’s interest to safeguard DNR and LNR plus Crimea. By making half the front unattackable it allows Russia to move forces to the Donestsk front. Which prevents the Ukrainians making any headway there either. That enables the cease fire offer.

Right now I think the RGS is holding off a decision on this strategy, and is seeing what the Ukrainians do. They don’t want to abandon the Kherson area on the west bank unnecessarily. I think though they will do it. Possibly midwinter if their planned winter offensive fails.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 8:06 pm

Elon Musk told prospective investors in his deal to buy the company that he planned to get rid of nearly 75 percent of Twitter’s 7,500 workers, whittling the company down to a skeleton staff of just over 2,000.

Bwah ha ha ha.
It would be a contest today between Netty Straya and Twatter as to who sent the most, “OMG! OMFG!! How could he/she?!?”
Just imagine Twatter HR.
“Phut! How does he think he run the place with only 40 Diversity and Inclusion Officers?”

cohenite
October 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Fuck me; PML speaks sense and then, always, has to say he’s not a climate denier.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 8:13 pm

Why would RUS use a dirty bomb rather than nukes?

Yup, Dover, that’s the obvious question.

So it’s pointless for the Russians to warn about Ukraine using one since Ukraine isn’t dumb enough to make themselves a pariah by doing so. Ukraine has to keep the West sweet, or they lose. All those yummy plane loads of ammo and howitzers and javelins.

Which then leads to the question: if it is this obvious Ukraine would never use such a silly weapon, why is Russia now warning world leaders in a bunch of phone calls?

The temptation to use nukes must be getting really bad on the Russian side. But to do so without just cause is to render Russia a disastrous mess for the next century, between internal popular revolt and revilement by every other country on Earth.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 8:13 pm

XXXX is a southern beer.

Brisbane beer.

It was never as big in NQ,

… or Rockhampton, or Toowoomba, or Cairns, because those places had local Breweries.
When CUB bought the local breweries in 1968 and shut them down, drinkers deserted Carlton’s beers, except in Cairns.
The reason was that there have always been plenty of expat Victorians in Cairns, they’re considered Pests in Rocky and Toowoomba.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 8:15 pm

The Russians are most likely not going to blow the dam. That would cut off water to Crimea. They would be really, really dumb if they did that.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 8:19 pm

Russia spent years warning darkly about dirty bombs in Syria, not to mention massive chemical attacks. Bugger all happened.

I expect the same thing is at play with the dambusting and the nuke scarifying, be it suitcase- or Big Boy-sized. The threats are deployed for propaganda, most likely nothing along those lines will actually come to pass. Hopefully.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 24, 2022 8:19 pm

I don’t think the Russians are dumb

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 8:21 pm

That’s three on the same line!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 8:21 pm

You’re not being especially consistent today Monty. This morning you were supporting the Ukrainians, now you are supporting the Russians. Ok yes I realize it’s Monday and that you were grumpy this morning. But do show a little consistency. You have a side to uphold.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 8:25 pm

Bruce, I realise Putin has not done things in this war in a particularly logical fashion, but even he wouldn’t be so foolish as to cut off Crimea’s water. Unless it looked like he was going to lose the whole thing. That prospect is a long way off, if it comes at all.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 8:30 pm

Let’s think outside the square here:
Everyone knows that Putler and Zelenskyy are on the same page as far as makin’ YT disappear goes.
Let’s say Putler blows the Dam, cutting off water to Crimea, but his Ehrenburg’s convince the Russian Sheeple that Z is to blame?
Win/Win, I’d say?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 8:31 pm

Groogs, you coming to the Woomba Miata Helldrivers AGM?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 8:33 pm

Ed Casesays:

October 24, 2022 at 8:30 pm

Let’s think outside the square here …

Yeah, nah.
Let’s not.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 24, 2022 8:35 pm

Never heard of it.

It’s more important that you never taste it. Just awful.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 8:37 pm

cohenitesays:
October 24, 2022 at 8:09 pm
Fuck me; PML speaks sense and then, always, has to say he’s not a climate denier.

I doubt that any sentient being denies that there is a climate. The key is the two words that are rarely highlighted by alarmists: catastrophic and anthropogenic.

For the second, intuitively, humans have an effect on climate, if only because burning coal and oil adds heat (conservation of energy), which shows up in major centres as Urban Heat Islands.

As for catastrophic, all the evidence so far is for nett benefit. Only the (hot running) models show any suggestions of imminent, or even distant, disaster.

PML is a dolt.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 24, 2022 8:38 pm

Perth Trader says:
October 24, 2022 at 6:52 pm

Its been a big day here in the West. exporting Iron Ore , Gas , Wheat, Sheep and Cattle to keep the rest of Aust. living in luxury. Its a big job , but we dont mind.

… and alumina, about one third of the world’s aluminium comes from West Australian alumina.

Those Woodstock cans aren’t made from bark.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 8:41 pm

Who could have imagined RUS were engaging in such a deception? As Monty said, they were openly declaring a retreat south.

And what the head of Ukraine military intelligence says is never deception either! LOL.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 8:41 pm

m0nty-fa

or Big Boy-sized

The Nagasaki bomb was called Fat Man, not Big Boy. The Hiroshima bomb was Little Boy. How could you get confused over your own name?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 8:42 pm

US Still Denies Entry to Unvaccinated Legal Travelers but Not Illegal Aliens Walking Across the Open Border

In case you are unaware, unvaccinated foreigners are still banned from entering the US despite the low number of COVID-19 cases.

Two Canadian nationals were denied entry on Saturday at a land border in British Columbia, Canada to Washington State.

According to the viral post tweeted by Josh (@JBar1982), his friends named Dona and Susan were turned away for being unvaccinated.

“The United States of America is STILL refusing unvaccinated travelers from Canada,” he said. “This is madness. My friends were turned around today.”

This mandate is only applicable to individuals who are traveling legally and does not apply to those who are illegally crossing our southern border.

2.3 million illegal aliens walked across the open border into the US this past year.

Not one was checked for the COVID vaccine.

caveman
caveman
October 24, 2022 8:43 pm

Great Northern is everywhere. It is Australia’s biggest selling beer

I’m not a fan of it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 8:44 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 24, 2022 at 8:30 pm
Let’s think outside the square here:
Everyone knows that Putler and Zelenskyy are on the same page as far as makin’ YT disappear goes.
Let’s say Putler blows the Dam, cutting off water to Crimea, but his Ehrenburg’s convince the Russian Sheeple that Z is to blame?
Win/Win, I’d say?

Richard Cranium, could you translate this into something resembling the King’s English.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 8:44 pm

Those Woodstock cans aren’t made from bark.

If it wasn’t for the gas reservation they might have to be. Some philistines might think this would be a good thing.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 8:45 pm

I don’t follow the logic here. False flags are typically for public consumption (and third parties) used to justify escalating or intervening in a conflict. Why would RUS use a dirty bomb rather than nukes? Because UKR doesn’t have the latter but plausibly has the means of putting together the former. The question is rather why would RUS want a false flag event all? Alternatively, what would UKR gain from a false flag event? Possibly US/NATO intervention.

Correct, Dover, which is what I said earlier. Everyone should remember that the Rus have form when it comes to laying on a good maskirovka or desinformatsiya. Who knows what is really going on in Kherson?

shatterzzz
October 24, 2022 8:46 pm

And with a last quarter attempt to improve her crumbling image Lidia shoots for the hoop with a new sponsorship deal .. !
https://ibb.co/X4RJhhs

m0nty
October 24, 2022 8:47 pm

Since Kyrylo Budanov is such an authoritative source, db will be pleased to learn that Russia is almost out of missiles, more than two-thirds of them get shot down anyway, and that Ukraine will win the war by next northern summer.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 24, 2022 8:47 pm

At least this is unlikely to happen in the Russian Airforce.

Air Force investigators found that a series of purported text messages where an airman allegedly told another airman that he was not being considered for a position because “the Air Force is looking for somebody of white complexion” were fake.

“Following an exhaustive investigation, authorities determined that the statements published did not occur and the text messages were fake,” Sean Clements, chief of media relations for the 56th Fighter Wing at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona told Task & Purpose on Monday.

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 8:48 pm

OldOzziesays:

October 24, 2022 at 8:42 pm

The stupid irony is my son just come back from Mexico to renew his US visa.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 8:48 pm

In fact, “there is an active build-up of troops” with the aim of defeating our advancing forces while on the defensive.

That is what I said about the RGS. They aren’t stupid, but the forces they have are somewhat brittle right now. It makes sense to have a plan and a fallback plan.

One of the issues is the lower Dnipro pontoon bridges are quite vulnerable and aren’t likely to be up for supplying a serious force concentration around Kherson. Logistics and supply are the two most important words to a general officer, and since the Ukrainians have mostly disabled the Antonovsky bridge the Russians have been building pontoon bridges. Their capacity isn’t huge for supplying a whole corps.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 8:49 pm

My airline pilot mate is married to a Russian, actually from Ukraine. She speaks Russian, understands Uke but can’t speak it fluently. She’s not happy about the death and destruction but is also unhappy that Russian speakers in what Ukraine considers its territory are discriminated against. She says he was happier when it was all part of the USSSR and that shit didn’t happen.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 8:49 pm

Toowoomba is a pretty place, but a little too Catholic for me.
Try to imagine a place with a Sancho or a Rosie in every second house and a coupla Knuckle Draggers lying in a gutter fighting over a bottle of Brown Muski …

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 8:51 pm

To be precise he had to go to Mexico to get a new US visa.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 8:52 pm

I saw big totals around Griffith. Did you miss that.

Yes, just. Threaded the needle so to speak.
Same as you all up and that puts us at just under 300mm since Aug 5.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 8:52 pm

Toowoomba is a pretty place, but a little too Catholic for me.
Home of the armed Christian Right.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 24, 2022 8:53 pm

LOS ANGELES (RNS) — Two California State University professors are suing their employer — the largest public university system in the United States — as they try to prevent officials from enforcing a new caste discrimination policy that they say singles out students and staff who are Indian and Hindu.
Professors Sunil Kumar and Praveen Sinha claim the new policy “seeks to define the Hindu religion as including ‘caste’ and an alleged oppressive and discriminatory caste system as foundational religious tenets,” according to the complaint filed Monday (Oct. 17) in California federal court.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 8:53 pm

Baron of the Taiga

No links on that tweet. I checked just now. Smells iffy.

Normally if it is a real story there will be a link back to some source. Not in that case.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 8:54 pm

Except your neighbours bottle of Great Northern doesn’t tend to slip under the fence to service your bottle of Great Northern, leaving you to deal with a whole batch of throwdowns to dispose of.

Yes.
The less said about that the better.

Anyone like an extra stubbie?

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 8:55 pm

Home of the armed Christian Right

Numberwang(spud)?

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 8:58 pm

We’ve had 145 for September and October so far a bit further South.
OK, it’s going to be 25% above average, but nothing remarkable (our highest has been 225 and lowest 35 for the same period).
Here’s the thing.
The BoMs will cherry-pick a few locations which have had OTT rain and present it like it has happened everywhere.

You’re lucky.
Not many places that haven’t had at least 3x average.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 8:58 pm

So that’s a No then.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 9:01 pm

You’ve got me thinking, perhaps i’ll go up there to buy Spud’s Book?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:02 pm

Looks like we will have to start looking for a new guest speaker for the “Replacing your knob” breakout session.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Labor warned energy prices to rise ‘by up to 50 per cent’ in 2023 as Ukraine war drives up cost of gas and coal

A source told Sky News Australia in the lead-up to Tuesday’s federal budget the conflict in Ukraine was “99 per cent” responsible for the looming increases in the cost of energy.

Andrew Clennell – Political Editor

Power prices will rise by up to 50 per cent next year, the federal government has been warned by the Australian Energy Regulator, according to government sources.

The forecasts are even worse than the dire predictions from the CEO of power firm Alinta, Jeff Dimery, who earlier this month said power bills without government intervention would increase by more than 35 per cent next year.

While the regulator is predicting an increase of up to 50 per cent, federal government sources have told Sky News Australia the budget will contain a forecast of between 30 and 40 per cent.

The increased price of gas and coal in the wake of the Ukraine war is being blamed for the rise which is set to come.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 9:12 pm

What advantage does UKR achieve by deceptively stating that RUS is reinforcing their positions on the north bank if it isn’t?

It makes the impending victory over them more meritorious. Russia is lowering expectations by saying they withdrew, Ukraine trying to claim a bigger PR win.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 9:15 pm

Home of the armed Christian Right
Numberwang(spud)?

nah, he’s of the left and thinks guns are ikky.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

he’s of the left and thinks guns are ikky.

His precise term for firearm owners, or even casual target shooters, is; Gun Wankers.

He took this so seriously it is unlikely it was a cover for being a clandestine gun owner.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 9:17 pm

Netball Australia heading to ‘go woke, go broke’ oblivion after alienating any sponsor who isn’t as pure as the driven snow

By scaring off a $15 million deal they desperately needed to stay afloat, Diamonds players and the sport’s national governing body couldn’t have painted themselves as more entitled, hypocritical and financially illiterate if they tried.

Caroline Di Russo – SkyNews.com.au Contributor and Political Commentator

There’s a commonly-known saying that you shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

As we head for a period of economic uncertainty, with everyday Australians tightening their belts, that saying rings true just that little bit more.

So, while most people are grateful for mercies – small or otherwise – our professional sporting codes continue to outdo each other in the entitlement and hypocrisy stakes.

The last fortnight has been particularly undignified.

Next, there were rumblings in and around the Dockers about whether it was appropriate for Woodside to remain a club sponsor because “something, something – fossil fuels are bad”.

Given the amount of time the Dockers and their entourage spend on a plane, they probably aren’t that well placed to criticise anyone else’s carbon footprint.

It also presents an additional and broader problem: Richard Goyder is both the Chairman of Woodside and the AFL Commission.

So, query whether under the newly enshrined “Thorburn rule”, Mr Goyder should resign his position at the AFL because his other interests don’t align with the values of the code?

Is this the new position for all perceived ills or is it just reserved for Christians?

Then it was reported that, Pat Cummins, eco-warrior, professional whinger and Australian Cricket captain, went to Cricket Australia CEO Nick Hockley with “ethical objections” about their major sponsor, Alinta Gas, and its climate impact.

He has been rightly slammed as a hypocrite given his extensive air travel and the fact he is paid handsomely to play in the Indian Premier league.

India, of course, being the second largest polluter on the planet. He could “ethically refrain” from playing IPL but we all know he won’t.

Any sponsor who isn’t pure as the driven snow won’t touch Netball Australia with a barge pole lest they upset the overwrought moralists within.

As for solidarity, maybe they can braid each other’s hair while they stand in the dole queue.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 9:17 pm

If he’s wrong he’ll own it.

So how about a source then Dover?
In God we trust, it says on US dollars.
Everyone else needs to provide a link.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:19 pm

While the regulator is predicting an increase of up to 50 per cent, federal government sources have told Sky News Australia the budget will contain a forecast of between 30 and 40 per cent.

But …but… but… Albo said*mmmmmmph*

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 9:20 pm

Senator Jacqui Lambie ‘prays’ Netball Australia has a backup sponsor as she defends mining magnate Gina Rinehart

Senator Jacqui Lambie has thrown her support behind Gina Rinehart as she slammed Netball Australia for losing a major sponsor while local sports clubs struggle to stay alive.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 9:22 pm

Speaking of which lately I haven’t been bothering to include links myself Most stuff is obvious like the situation with the Antonovsky bridge, the dam and the pontoon bridge efforts. I assume people following the war will have seen the reports. But please if you want me to provide links: say so and I will.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 9:23 pm

It’s gonna be a long 3 years.
On a brighter note, any sightings of Thorpey?
Or Rolfey?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 9:24 pm

PML is a dolt.

Another midget. Probably left-handed as well.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 9:24 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
October 24, 2022 at 7:37 pm
Its anti democratic not to outsource making laws to the unelected unaccountable blob of the EU!!!!

not just the EU.. dictators like Ardern (and our own grubs) are more than happy to sign up to UN charters. Then they can sit back and say ‘we don’t want this, but the UN makes us!’.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 9:25 pm

Looking at all the news reporting from Echuca and the developing (and I suspect stoked by the media) furore over the placement of the temporary flood levee.
According to my work colleague, a life long resident, the houses on the river side will always go under in a flood like this and the people living there would be well aware of that.

Lets hope the council hasn’t been charging rates the same as for the “other side”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 24, 2022 9:26 pm

The BoM is using the measurement indiscriminately for scare value. They are no longer a serious agency.

Indeed, some of the disorganised eddies on the monsoon trough they have named as cyclones in the last few years have been highly questionable. Overestimating intensity is something I have noticed as well, one that passed over us a few years back was not a Cat 1 by any stretch. Their forecasts in the wet season are good for 3 days, 5 days hit & miss and over 5 days trust at own risk. The climatology records that I used to regularly access for interest on rainfall in different areas is now full of holes and a lot are apparently unable to be “quality controlled”, whatever that means. I am increasingly sourcing weather info from overseas, especially US sites.

That said was talking to an ex Army mate tonight, he’s heard apparently Dan’s is squealing for troops and Albo will probably give them to him. Rumour is too, the diggers have had enough of domestic operations too.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Ed Casesays:
October 24, 2022 at 8:49 pm
Toowoomba is a pretty place, but a little too Catholic for me.
Try to imagine a place with a Sancho or a Rosie in every second house and a coupla Knuckle Draggers lying in a gutter fighting over a bottle of Brown Muski …

Hmmm. m0nty-fa is obsessed with Jews, Richard Cranium is anti-Catholic. Not noice!

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 24, 2022 9:26 pm

Senator Jacqui Lambie ‘prays’ Netball Australia has a backup sponsor as she defends mining magnate Gina Rinehart

Translation:
Tassie Labor are holding discussions with potential “Independent” Senate candidates in NW Tasmania.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 9:27 pm

I like crisp unpretentious beers — but I’m yet to find a good Australian pilsner.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 9:28 pm

Standing up to a warmongering Putin and an assertive, illiberal China will cost the West more than we can possibly comprehend

The price of successfully shoring up the world order in the current climate is sky-high. No wonder Joe Biden’s latest security roadmap is so heavy on the “what” and so light on the “why”.

Professor Joseph M. Siracusa
SkyNews.com.au Contributor and Political Commentator

US President Joe Biden recently released his 2022 National Security Strategy – ironically, an apt bookend to China President Xi Jinping’s own speech of obsession with security and ideology to the Communist Party Congress.

In it, he articulated US values and interests in this age of disruption, while offering a strategy for protecting and advancing them.

The National Security Strategy report, released annually since 1987, is sent from the President to Congress to communicate the White House’s national security vision to the legislative branch, as well as proposed uses of all aspects of US power needed to make their national security goals a reality.

The result this time is an incoherent, reckless road map “in search of monsters to destroy”, to use a fitting quote from the sixth US President John Quincy Adams.

Like every National Security Strategy, according to Paul Miller, also of the Scowcroft Centre, this is not truly a strategy document; it is mostly a jumbled discussion of ends with some consideration of ways and almost no consideration of means.

Simply put, there is not much guidance in the document about implementation.

Competing with the Great Powers while shoring up the democratic order is a tall order, the costs of which the American people and the West as a whole cannot begin to comprehend.

From the Comments

– Biden will sell the west down the river so he’s crone’s and family can make money. It’s all part of the great reset wanted by these global elites aligned with the WEF.

– Biden will go in history as the worst President ever.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 9:31 pm

Ed Casesays:

October 24, 2022 at 9:01 pm

You’ve got me thinking, perhaps i’ll go up there to buy Spud’s Book?

Up there?
Up there?
Isn’t the correct term “out there” when travelling from Brissy to Woomba?
I mean, it’s pretty much due West.
“Up” usually signifies North.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 24, 2022 9:40 pm

Health Hazzard quitting politics – anither rat in the drink -pity he didn’t leave in 2019

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 9:41 pm

Most of Toowoomba is over 2000 feet AMSL. We aren’t worried about rising sea levels although I’m looking forward to the beach at Port Withcott.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 9:44 pm

You’ve got me thinking, perhaps i’ll go up there to buy Spud’s Book?
Still on sale at Toowoomba East Post office.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 9:47 pm

Health Hazzard quitting politics

Too much to hope that he will deport himself to somewhere far away. Paris? Pyongyang?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 9:49 pm

Internal Server Error..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 9:55 pm

No link then. OK.

I like to hunt up the source of such stuff. It always says a lot about the content.

The default position should be to firmly distrust anything that comes from either side. Then see if any of it can be verified, particularly from external sources like FIRMS or geolocation. If, after that, it passes then it might be true. This is an information war as much as a grungy muddy one. Nothing you read is trustworthy. Verify, crosscheck and verify again.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 9:57 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

October 24, 2022 at 9:49 pm

Internal Server Error..

Wut???

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 10:00 pm

Australia’s favourite indig Muslim cross-coder on the netty contretemps The Tele):

“She (Rinehart) could have apologised for her father’s comments, distanced herself from them and told us that she doesn’t believe those things. Instead, she pulled her money out.

“All the netballers, they need to be staunch and stick behind Donnell, because they’re going to try to turn them against her.

“It’s the old divide and conquer routine. But I truly hope that God forgives [Hancock] and blesses his soul. We should be living in peace and harmony, and working together and learning to own your actions.”

Also, in related news:

Anthony Mundine net worth: Anthony Mundine is an Australian professional boxer who has a net worth of $30 million dollars.

Mr Mundine. Fork out or fuck off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 10:09 pm

Anthony Mundine net worth: Anthony Mundine is an Australian professional boxer who has a net worth of $30 million dollars.

People the Netty chicks would be desparately hoping wouldn’t chime in to “help” with a few words of support:-
Bandana-Man.
Mrs Bandana.
Anthony Mundine.
Martin Bryant.
Kevin Rudd.
Dick Pusey.
Julian Knight.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 10:15 pm

Bandana-Man.
Mrs Bandana.
Anthony Mundine.
Martin Bryant.
Kevin Rudd.
Dick Pusey.
Julian Knight.

John Setka.
Kel from Kath and Kim.
David Koch.
Michael Slater.
Andrew O’Keefe.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 24, 2022 10:16 pm

Great Northern I believe is brewed or used to be at the old Powers site at Yatala, near enough to the Gold Coast.

XXXX at Milton in Brisbane.

Both southern beers to us up this way. Great Northern has been good with it’s advertising, recent XXXX billboards will continue their erosion in the market being woke as. Lion seriously need to sack their consultants, woke inner city types look down their nose at XXXX. That said the yellow Gold signs are still widespread up this way even with the competitor.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2022 10:25 pm

Tonight I attended a wonderful talk at the Centre of Independent Studies. I will write a post on that later. Nick Cater was there and I decided to have a chat with him about the state of the Liberal Party. I asked Nick about the SMH piece by Brandis the Bigot. He said he hadn’t read the piece. We continued to talk and he started saying that “we need to look forward”. I responded, “that’s all very well Nick but first the Liberal Party needs to learn the lessons of the past nine years”. He then said “Morrison is no longer PM, it’s all in the past”. I was left flummoxed and I said “I know Nick but if we don’t learn from the past then the party is bound to make the same mistakes”. I asked him “where are the conservatives in the party?” He said that the Party is a broad church. I said “yes, but to be a broad church it needs to have some moderates and conservatives and yet Turnbull and Morrison purged the conservatives. He then asked me if I liked Dutton and I said I did like him but he referred to CPAC attendees such as myself as “extreme right”. Nick said that wasn’t true and I said YES IT WAS. I then said “Dutton better say no to the Voice”. Cater didn’t answer.

After that I gave up, I was very polite but I thought I’d lose it so I walked away. Nick’s a nice guy but such naivety doesn’t bode well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2022 10:27 pm

Brad Hazzard is the biggest pussy in Australian politics.
Or at least for the last 20 years.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 10:34 pm

Shit!

Excuse that it’s from Zero Hedge but I found it on Twitter.

This could be big

NY Judge Declares ‘Vote By Mail’ Law Unconstitutional

The way New York counts ballots was thrown into chaos on Friday after a judge ruled that several of the state’s recent voting reforms are unconstitutional.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ny-judge-rules-vote-mail-law-unconstitutional

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 24, 2022 10:39 pm

Thanks for the report Cassie.

It’s a pity an alternative to the Libs hasn’t been founded. There’s been some good efforts but it seems it’s not there yet.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rockdoctorsays:
October 24, 2022 at 10:16 pm
..recent XXXX billboards will continue their erosion in the market being woke as. Lion seriously need to sack their consultants, woke inner city types look down their nose at XXXX.

Amen to that.
XXXX have not sent a rep to my place this calendar year. (The other major reps make a site visit at least every fortnight)

The last time a XXXX rep did visit, they had no interest whatsoever in the performance of the core lines. i.e. XXXX Bitter, XXXX Gold, various Hahns, etc.
They wanted to talk only about the pooncey beers, “Ye Olde Style Parramatta Horse Piss” & that sort of crafty hipster shit.

My favourite quote from a XXXX rep in recent years: “I’m not interested in your sales volume, only your compliance with our directives”
This was the state sales manager. Easy to see why Carlton are going gangbusters.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 24, 2022 10:47 pm

Just Stop Oil protesters today threw chocolate cake in the face of a waxwork of King Charles at Madame Tussauds – as it emerged some of the mob are paid to continue their idiotic stunts by a group of wealthy Americans including an oil heiress.

Footage shows two of the eco loons walking up to the waxwork at the famous London attraction at around 10.50am before taking off their tops to reveal Just Stop Oil t-shirts. One of them shouts, ‘This is a time for action’ before they both smear it with cake.

….

It recently emerged the group is being funded by a coalition of wealthy individuals from California, including Aileen Getty – the granddaughter of oil tycoon J Paul Getty – and that some of this money is used to pay activists. In response to a report in The Times this weekend, a spokesman for the group confirmed that ‘some people supporting Just Stop Oil do receive a small income’.

Daily Mail

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 10:47 pm

Logistics and supply are the two most important words to a general officer

“Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 10:50 pm

It’s a pity an alternative to the Libs hasn’t been founded. There’s been some good efforts but it seems it’s not there yet.

Would a truly conservative Party get off the ground these days?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 10:51 pm

Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics”

Omar Bradley?

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 10:54 pm

It actually is whitey’s fault. Leftwing whitey’s fault.

4 Corners this evening.

First Nations women are being murdered at up to 12 times the national average. In some regions, their deaths make up some of the highest homicide rates in the world.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 10:54 pm

“Up” usually signifies North.

Yes but we say “going up the mountains” when travelling south-ish from sea level Sydney to the 5600 feet Perisher.
Life is full of inconsistencies.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 24, 2022 10:55 pm

Doing the jobs Americans won’t do

HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) — Investigators told Eyewitness News that 13 more victims had come forward after a janitor accused of urinating in employee water bottles was caught on video.

On Friday, court records show that 50-year-old Lucio Diaz was granted a $75,000 bond after being charged with indecent assault and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

A camera she set up near her desk caught Diaz, who has been working at the office for 8 years, in the act. She shared only a still image from the video but allowed ABC13 to watch it in its entirety.

Court records show a urinalysis confirmed it.

Pulls out his penis and puts his penis in my bottle, basically rinses his penis in the water,” she told Eyewitness News in a previous report.

Further testing brought devastating news. The victim learned she acquired an STD, which he also tested positive for.

Court records show Diaz is in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody. The Mexican national’s immigration and work status are unclear. The victim said Diaz continued to work at the building even after management was notified. She is working with attorney Kim Spurlock.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 24, 2022 10:57 pm

I was speaking to an Army officer recently and he mentioned that SAS had been used use for hotel quarantine in Perth and also in recent Lismore floods. Thought it was done so that they would not think they are any different to normal units.

Might be understandable in case of Perth as not many regular army guys in WA. Cost to get Army in from other states would have been very expensive especially if also had to quarantine themselves when entering WA.

Would be intesting to know how many volunteers in VIC cant turn out because not vaxxed to the required extent. Probably more than the Army going to turn out.

“That said was talking to an ex Army mate tonight, he’s heard apparently Dan’s is squealing for troops and Albo will probably give them to him. Rumour is too, the diggers have had enough of domestic operations too”.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
October 24, 2022 10:58 pm

Would a truly conservative Party get off the ground these days?

No.
Conservatism is dead. People should let go of the rotting corpse.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 10:59 pm

Cassie
Nick’s a nice guy but such naivety doesn’t bode well.

Either naive of slowly moving leftwards in the hope no-one notices.
Shame for him that you did.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 11:00 pm

OR slowly

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 11:03 pm

Just Stop Oil protesters today threw chocolate cake in the face of a waxwork of King Charles at Madame Tussauds

Doesn’t such disrespect to an image of the Monarch earn you a trip to the chopping block on Tower Hill?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:09 pm

And here is the UKR link. This will be the 9th wave of mobilization.

Thanks, Dover. That looks pretty reasonable. As I said earlier I thought they were up to the 7th, but 9th would be consistent. I’m not seeing a huge amount of resistance to the call ups.

On the demographics I suspect they could manage at least 4 million combatants. We fielded over 10% of our population in WW2. If so that means they will go to a further step, since the current number is about 1.1 million active and reserve since the start of conscription in 2014.

As I said earlier though the issue with Ukraine isn’t guys it’s ammunition. And to some extent weapons. Mostly ammunition though.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:16 pm

I’m still up, btw, because I made the mistake of starting Col. Schlichter’s 6th novel. Reading slowly on account of laughter attacks every half a page. I think the good Colonel has watched too many James Bond movies.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 11:31 pm

Fester

The least you could do is read the Cambridge gate watcher’s novels. He stuck up for your bullshit to the point when he jumped over the cliff.

Johnny Rotten
October 25, 2022 12:22 am

My wife and I went to the state fair and one of the first exhibits we stopped at was the breeding bulls.

We went up to the first pen and there was a sign attached that said:

‘THIS BULL MATED 50 TIMES LAST YEAR’

My wife playfully nudged me in the ribs, smiled and said “He mated 50 times last year”.

We walked to the second pen which had a sign attached that said:

”THIS BULL MATED 150 TIMES LAST YEAR’

My wife gave me a healthy jab and said “WOW!! That’s more than twice a week! You could learn a lot from him!”

We walked to the third pen and it had a sign attached that said, in capital letters:

‘THIS BULL MATED 365 TIMES LAST YEAR’

My wife was so excited that her elbow nearly broke my ribs, and said “That’s once a day. You could REALLY learn something from this one!”

I looked at her and said “Go over and ask him if it was with the same old cow”…

Johnny Rotten
October 25, 2022 12:23 am

Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.

– Confucius

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 25, 2022 12:36 am

#Justice for Brinny jury deliberations have now gone on for longer than the trial- can we assume that there are one or two holdouts who will never acquit because believe all women?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 25, 2022 12:47 am

#Justice for Brinny jury deliberations have now gone on for longer than the trial

What’s going to happen to the book?

Gabor
Gabor
October 25, 2022 12:55 am

dover0beach says:
October 25, 2022 at 12:21 am

Sunak is PM.

That’s what it was all about from the beginning.
They made people “see the light”!

rosie
rosie
October 25, 2022 1:24 am
rosie
rosie
October 25, 2022 1:28 am

At China Daily because Bloomberg is paywalled.
“This week, the coalition agreed a positive stance towards nuclear energy and indicated its intention to construct new power station reactors, reported Euronews, while Bloomberg reported that the nationalist Sweden Democrats do not support the country’s goal of net-zero emissions by 2045.”

Swedish govt ditches environment ministry, leading to shock, upro

areff
areff
October 25, 2022 1:49 am

Would a truly conservative Party get off the ground these days?

A sensible party would.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Kevin Argus from RMIT University said Rinehart’s response to the debate – to cancel the contract – demonstrates “reactive decision making” that’s counterproductive for a company seeking to win public support.

Yeah, how good is this “expert”?

Support for Gina from the genpop is a tidal wave.
Comments threads everywhere (including the CNN thread that printed his “expertery”) are running at about two comments against Gina….. per thread!

Yeah, she sure read the room wrong.

rickw
rickw
October 25, 2022 2:03 am

Health Hazzard quitting politics – anither rat in the drink -pity he didn’t leave in 2019

I wonder where next in the swamp he will float to the surface?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

One of the been-put-out-to-pasture former netball players posted on her Twitter feed how “Proud” she is of the Diamonds & how they’ve coped in the face of “adversity” (meaning the past week or so) & have achieved things no other sporting team ever has (seriously)

The comments thread is brutal. Universally unsupportive.
Some of the better comments:
“They’ve achieved something no other Australian team has, they blew $15million in one weekend, be very proud
“They proved an own goal is possible in Netball, even though the rules say it is not possible, be very proud
“Their new financial status means they should change their name to the cubic zirconias”

rickw
rickw
October 25, 2022 2:04 am

First Nations women are being murdered at up to 12 times the national average. In some regions, their deaths make up some of the highest homicide rates in the world.

#tribalife

areff
areff
October 25, 2022 2:37 am

According to the viral post tweeted by Josh (@JBar1982), his friends named Dona and Susan were turned away for being unvaccinated.

I went through US Customs/Immigration at 2am Saturday (US east coast time). Not asked about vax status, not once. I’m calling BS on the above.

Odd thing, Philippine Airlines has a strict mask mandate on all its planes, which the hosties try to enforce even after they are out of Philippines airspace. They gave up after being told that they should charge me the next time in Manila which, God willing, will never, ever happen again.

They handed out a COVID vax form to be filled in by all arriving at JFK, per the insistence of NY State health officials.

Filled it in. Nobody at JFK to collect it, so into the trash by the taxi rank.

As far as I can see, COVID mania is now but vestigal whining.

Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:07 am
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
October 25, 2022 4:09 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 25, 2022 4:13 am

Boris isn’t going after the job.

I did say he ‘would have been able to’, which more than suggests I knew he’d withdrawn.
Allow me to dream. 🙂
And I know he’s no conservative but I saw him as the only possible bulwark against Labor. He’s about the only one who could possibly pull the red wall into play again, and this would require, as I noted, a very big policy turn around back to what he promised them – and these days, to get that would require him to dump his green friends and family. A tall order, a long shot, or whatever you’d like to call it.

Boris has still got a few years left in him, he is undeniably charismatic, which really counts in British leadership, his parliamentary performances can be dramatic, and I doubt he sees himself completely out of the picture yet, even if right now he’s taken his hat out of the ring.

Cliche time over now from me. I’ve highlighted the most egregious of them for the nit-pickers, and we may note how much English expression can rely lazily upon idiomatic expression in daily conversation. It’s not always a bad thing either. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 25, 2022 4:46 am

Filled it in. Nobody at JFK to collect it, so into the trash by the taxi rank.

As far as I can see, COVID mania is now but vestigal whining.

Yes, there is still a bit of official officious hangover in the form system – we had to fill in an uncollected form on re-entering Australia in early June this year but nothing at all to get into the UK in early May. We tossed the uncollected Oz forms into the garbage at home.

Re the US, a similar thing to areff – a form from the US (online the nite before or at the desk on the day) managed by Qantas asking simply vaxxed or not, no detail required, and those who filled it in at the Qantas desk didn’t have it collected at the US end.

We’ve had a sudden surge in mask earing with one, unusually for this trip, a cruise functionary handing them out to people going on bus tours in Costa Rica if they wanted them. Most still didn’t want or wear masks. A few crew members have suddenly appeared wearing them, but most don’t still.

We have seen and heard quite a lot of occasional sniffles and some with constant koffs (the most common sign of Omicron Covid), and we know of two cases where people seem to be ‘ill’ and confined to their ‘staterooms’. But that could be anything given the bucket list crowd on board. Panama have just texted a form to all passengers offering to register us as voluntary participants into their Covid testing regime, to which Hairy simply said bugger that. We are completely well anyway, not even a vague cough or tickle. I doubt many on this cruise will want to get tested and if they feel a bit koffish and offish then the new informal rule seems to be to conceal where possible and soldier on.

Having got this far, no-one was going to miss seeing this huge ship get through two tight locks, as has just happened, and we are now sailing a lake with superb jungle on its surrounds. The room attendants who have just been in do not know much of the history of the canal, but they are perfectly aware that so many thousands (more than 36k) died during its c0mpletion, many of them hired hands like themselves. They tell me they all have to be vaxxed against Yellow Fever. As we are too, though it is not compulsory.

Calli was quite right in saying this is an absolutely amazing engineering feat and a world-class sailing experience going through. The sight of massive container ships doing the newer extended lock system was also breathtaking. It costs US$30K to simply book a traverse timeslot for the canal and then $370 for each passenger carried (included in our fare). It’s still cheaper and faster though for cargo ships to pay up rather than going round the Horn. On the right hand side going into the first lock, in the distance, the mini-Manhattan towers of Panama City peek up through a chink in the mountains that have been dug into for this channel and flooded river-lake you enter on the way through.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 25, 2022 4:53 am

At certain hubs, European gas went negative overnight.
What a time to be alive.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 25, 2022 4:55 am

We went through the older lock system, the container lock is unimaginably huge. In our passage there was only approximately two feet of space on each side for the ship to nestle into as we rose up. Hairy and I were on the high bow and were able to watch the extraordinary tractor engines that move along on special cog electric rails that are roped to the ship on either side to stop movement – those machines, made more high tech each decade, made by Mitsubishi, now cost over US$2.4 million each and they have over thirty of them in the whole of the canal.

bespoke
bespoke
October 25, 2022 5:53 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 25, 2022 5:56 am

rickw Re:Health Hazzard, the turds always float to the top.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 25, 2022 6:20 am

I don’t subscribe to the Washington Post so can’t see the details.
A group of 30 Democrats are reportedly pushing Biden to change tact regarding Ukraine.
If anyone can get around the paywall can they please post the column.
If true, and considering it’s a DNC story getting fed to the WaPo, you think it would be, it’s big news.
It’s the first time since the Russian invasion that there’s been any pushback from within the DNC machine.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 25, 2022 6:26 am

I see the Conservative Party has again stiffed their members by denying them a vote for leader.

Way to go swampies. You just might all fit into a London cab after the election when your base deserts you. FPP can be brutal to arrogant pollies.

Gabor
Gabor
October 25, 2022 6:32 am

feelthebern says:
October 25, 2022 at 6:20 am

try this link, works for me, I don’t have a sub either.

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