Open Thread – Tues 25 Oct 2022


The Seven Works of Mercy, Caravaggio, 1607

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 26, 2022 7:00 pm

Biden spoke of the end of the world if a battlefield nuke is used.

Thats pretty much a threat to use the US nukes.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/07/pentagon-no-sign-putin-is-planning-to-use-nukes-after-biden-armageddon-comment-00060922

“First time since the Cuban Missile Crisis, we have a direct threat of the use [of a] nuclear weapon if in fact things continue down the path they are going,” Biden said. “I don’t think there’s any such thing as the ability to easily [use] a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with Armageddon.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 7:00 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 26, 2022 at 6:50 pm

Does ANYBODY understand Duckworth Lewis? Harder than explaining LBW to a chick.

I understand it means the Paddies have taken down Engerland.

cohenite
October 26, 2022 7:04 pm

John H.says:
October 26, 2022 at 6:31 pm

Some profound physiological differences other than the visual morphometrics between 3rd nations and caucasians exist, including brain volume and kidney susceptibility to diabetes. Walking around for
millennia will do that. Artificial and accelerated evolution also works; the US black man was bred for size and aggression for a couple of centuries resulting in a much higher crime rate within that population today.

Sociobiology suggests that differences between races also results in different societies. Which is interesting since the caucasians invented both democracy and communism

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 7:04 pm

There is no such thing as “stolen generations”.
There are half castes who were saved from being murdered for being half caste.

There were those who’s parents gave them up to be looked after…cite you the prominent Western Australian activist whose mother gave him up because she was afraid her new partner would abuse her son….

John H.
John H.
October 26, 2022 7:08 pm

dover0beachsays:
October 26, 2022 at 6:56 pm
He said it in relation to the current battles. It clearly was a threat against Ukraine. When was the last time you heard a national leader threaten the use of nukes?

Where is the quote?

I know what he said but context matters. It is no coincidence that he then annexed regions and Russian officials have been suggesting Ukraine may use a dirty nuke. All this is clearly aimed at threatening Ukraine with nuclear retaliation. Not surprising given the abysmal performance of their conventional military.

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2022 7:11 pm

Clinton Carpet muncher sounding off again I see.

Razey
Razey
October 26, 2022 7:15 pm

Trying is the first step towards failure.

– H. J. Simpson

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 7:17 pm

. Artificial and accelerated evolution also works; the US black man was bred for size and aggression for a couple of centuries
Any credible link, otherwise that’s horseshit.

… resulting in a much higher crime rate within that population today.

Compared to what?
You’re slyly blamin’ YT for your own weird fantasies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 7:22 pm

H. J. Simpson sounds like Yoda.

mem
mem
October 26, 2022 7:24 pm

Lilydale ( The gateway to The Yarra Valley) got flooded last night
Drench all rain ( as somebody once said)
This year everyone gets a flood

I live 5km away from Lilydale but only received 10ml last night. It is unusually humid given low temps so more rain to come. Believe it or not we are on a par for the same rainfall as last year.

Razey
Razey
October 26, 2022 7:31 pm

memsays:
October 26, 2022 at 7:24 pm
Lilydale ( The gateway to The Yarra Valley) got flooded last night
Drench all rain ( as somebody once said)
This year everyone gets a flood

I live 5km away from Lilydale but only received 10ml last night. It is unusually humid given low temps so more rain to come. Believe it or not we are on a par for the same rainfall as last year.

Was having a right winge this morning. Drizzly, cold, smelt of a wet dog outside. Sicktoria is depressing.

Razey
Razey
October 26, 2022 7:33 pm

Rainfall This Month 102.9 mm
Rainfall This Year 616.8 mm

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 7:38 pm

Was having a right winge this morning. Drizzly, cold, smelt of a wet dog outside. Sicktoria is depressing.

Good thing you’re in Nagasaki, hey?

MatrixTransform
October 26, 2022 7:45 pm

Good thing you’re in Nagasaki, hey?

omg … so funny … seriously sancho, you gotta tell us about your muse

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2022 7:46 pm

“He said it in relation to the current battles. It clearly was a threat against Ukraine. When was the last time you heard a national leader threaten the use of nukes?

Zelensky. A few weeks ago, when speaking to Australia’s very own Lowy Institute, Zelensky called for a “pre-emptive” nuclear strike on Russia. Zelensky’s own words were…

“Mr Zelensky replied that NATO should “eliminate the possibility of Russia using nuclear weapons”.

“But what is important, I once again appeal to the international community, as I did before February 24 – we need pre-emptive strikes, so that they’ll know what will happen to them if they use nukes, and not the other way around,” he said.”

The only way the West could eliminate Russia’s nuclear weapons would be to use weapons.

MatrixTransform
October 26, 2022 7:46 pm

what the fuck is wrong with you?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 7:48 pm

Emma Brown, 31, and Carmen Lean, 28, had travelled down from Scotland

From Top Ender’s link. I do hope they walked…

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2022 7:50 pm

Not the Bentley! Rotters.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 7:53 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 26, 2022 at 7:50 pm

Not the Bentley! Rotters.

The chaps at the club were jolly well miffed.

duncanm
duncanm
October 26, 2022 7:54 pm

There is no such thing as “stolen generations”.

I’d love to see a study of life outcomes of those ‘stolen’ vs. not.

I know what the answer is – just the magnitude of difference is a question mark.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2022 7:54 pm
miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2022 7:56 pm

Does Zelensky really believe that shit or is he just saying what the Washington War Machine tell him to say? What a grotesque clown.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2022 7:57 pm

“What a grotesque clown.”

I’ve never liked clowns. He’s also managed to piss off the Israelis.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 7:57 pm

Just Stop Oil eco-zealots spray orange paint over luxury Bugatti, Ferrari and Bentley car showrooms in London’s Berkley Square on day 26 of protests

Annoying daddy’s car dealer is probably unwise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 8:02 pm

I know what the answer is – just the magnitude of difference is a question mark.

The ten year old Aboriginal girls, who had contacted venereal disease, as a result of their parents prostituting them to the crews of the North West pearling fleet? The Aboriginal children, foraging on the town rubbish tip, while their parents were “on the grog?”

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2022 8:02 pm

Clowns are sinister witness Mr Bubbles and Cloe’s clowns (lesbian clowns).

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2022 8:04 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 26, 2022 8:04 pm

What is tonight’s argument:

– HMAS Sydney
– Nagasaki and Hiroshima
– George Custer
– The Alamo
– The American Civil War
– The Charge of the Light Brigade / Battle of Trafalgar (anniversaries recently)

– or a combination of the above?

Roger
Roger
October 26, 2022 8:06 pm

A few weeks ago, when speaking to Australia’s very own Lowy Institute, Zelensky called for a “pre-emptive” nuclear strike on Russia

The Ukrainians have fought bravely and better than anyone expected, but it’s time for NATO to force Zelensky to the negotiating table.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 26, 2022 8:07 pm

Struth, I don’t disagree about the way vaxes were forced on us. Reprehensible and I will never forget.

However Chloe from Kuranda in all likelihood is probably and anti any vaxer anyway. Like visiting Barron Gorge up the range from Cairns but you can’t miss the hippie bent of Kuranda, which I will admit adds to it’s charm but certainly in measured doses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 8:07 pm

rosiesays:

October 26, 2022 at 7:54 pm

Dawn sings a different song
Dawn Fraser concerned Gina Rinehart may pull out of sports sponsorship after netball debacle

She’s right.
Gina sponsors a stack of unfashionable low profile sports – synchronised swimming, rowing, beach volleyball, swimming.
I don’t think it would take much for her to pull the pin on those too.
Dawn has had plenty of experience with gutless sports administrators over the years. She is telling them they need to grow a backbone, jump on any noisy dickheads in their midst or kiss the cash goodbye.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 8:09 pm

Top Endersays:

October 26, 2022 at 8:04 pm

What is tonight’s argument:

I nominate the biggest battle ever seen on the high seas.
Guess.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 8:09 pm

– The Charge of the Light Brigade

I’ve seen the order that launched the “Charge of the Light Brigade” – I’ve always thought that half the problem arose because no – one could decipher the staff officer’s handwriting…

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 26, 2022 8:10 pm

Russel Brand has built his “Stay Free” studio to look like a bicurious Louder With Crowder.
The bloke’s a carpetbagger and fairweather flog. If he had any deep belief, or live knowledge, in The Current Things that he’s constructing his show around, he wouldn’t need a fifteen year old girl’s amount of sheets and screens in front of him.
Compare and contrast to Crowder or Oliver.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 8:14 pm

I nominate the biggest battle ever seen on the high seas.

“Where is, repeat, where is Task Force 34? The world wonders!”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2022 8:15 pm

Russel Brand has built his “Stay Free” studio to look like a bicurious Louder With Crowder.

Too many scatter cushions?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 8:15 pm

what da fuck is rong wit u?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 8:16 pm

Just Stop Oil eco-zealots spray orange paint over luxury Bugatti, Ferrari and Bentley car showrooms in London’s Berkley Square on day 26 of protests

Don’t wet your pan ties just yet.
100/1 On it was water based paint that washed straight off after the Photo op.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 8:19 pm

Here ya go, Topster.
Why did it take RAN 70 years to decide where the Centaur was?
No walls of text, please

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 26, 2022 8:20 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
October 26, 2022 at 3:48 pm

Peace Was Never an Option – Romanian Defense Minister Resigns

There is, reputably, 40,000 US forces in Romania waiting to enter Ukraine to keep the Russians out of western Ukraine. The Defence Minister probably viewed the US presence in Romania as a needless provocation, for example, if the US fired on the Russian advancing army and the Russians fired back at US targets in Romania, then that’s an attack on a NATO country.

Romania could then become the new Ukraine for the remainder of this decade.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2022 8:20 pm

Again with the panties? You were doing so well today too Groogs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 8:20 pm

Ender – I’ve already mentioned Lincoln and McClellan, but no one bit.

Nor Yoda, which does it for Star Wars also.

Back to book, which is a cross between 007 and John Wick, with a tad of Steve Irwin (he gets a mention).

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 26, 2022 8:21 pm

Photo of notable Hater of African People Mohandas Gandhi too, wot’s that about?

Makka
Makka
October 26, 2022 8:22 pm

Does Zelensky really believe that shit or is he just saying what the Washington War Machine tell him to say?

There is a fight for Russian public opinion, that Zelenskiy is aiming at also. Particularly the younger generation(s). He’s trying the scare the crap out of them.

Roger
Roger
October 26, 2022 8:27 pm

Ender – I’ve already mentioned Lincoln and McClellan, but no one bit.

I would’ve if I’d been around.

Little Mac was a fine soldier on paper, but that never quite translated onto the battlefield.

Otoh, Shelby Foote maintained that Lincoln was one of two geniuses the war produced.

The other being Nathan Bedford Forrest, who adapted calvalry tactics for a new era of higher power weaponry, turning them into mounted infantry, which was reflected later in the AIF.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 26, 2022 8:27 pm

rosie says:
October 26, 2022 at 8:04 pm
I guess he won’t be flying qantas again.

identified as a high-profile rugby star = recently represented Afghanistan at an international rugby tournament

Bwahahahahahaha!

Mater
October 26, 2022 8:30 pm

The other being Nathan Bedford Forrest, who adapted calvalry tactics for a new era of higher power weaponry, turning them into mounted infantry, which was reflected later in the AIF.

If I’m not mistaken, he’s quite famous for developing something else, too.

cohenite
October 26, 2022 8:31 pm

. Artificial and accelerated evolution also works; the US black man was bred for size and aggression for a couple of centuries
Any credible link, otherwise that’s horseshit.

https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(20)30200-7

… resulting in a much higher crime rate within that population today.

Compared to what?
You’re slyly blamin’ YT for your own weird fantasies.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/06/the-geek-in-pictures-keynesian-crime-wave-edition.php

4th graph. Plus here.

If I thought about you I dare say that would be a weird fantasy.

Roger
Roger
October 26, 2022 8:33 pm

If I’m not mistaken, he’s quite famous for developing something else, too.

The Klan, yes; but he later persuaded them to disband and promoted harmony between black and white.

Roger
Roger
October 26, 2022 8:35 pm

Or attempted to persuade them to disband, at least.

calli
calli
October 26, 2022 8:36 pm

If I’m not mistaken, he’s quite famous for developing something else, too.

Rinso, for whiter than white bedsheets?

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2022 8:36 pm

Can someone actually quote what Putin has said here? All I’ve ever heard him say is nothing more than that they will only ever be used if there is an existential threat to the Russian Federation, which is pretty much consistent with what everyone else with nukes says anyway.

He also thinks Ukraine has no right to exist and was a Colonel in the KGB.

Just a middle of the road guy.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2022 8:42 pm

Biggest sea battle. Jutland?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Shelby Foote maintained that Lincoln was one of two geniuses the war produced. The other being Nathan Bedford Forrest

Tad unfair not to’ve mentioned Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Lee was a genius already of course.
Grant and Sherman are who the Russians are after though. So far they’ve not found them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Rinehart disavowed her old man’s remarks.
She still appears petty though.
All she hadda say on Day 1 was:

Look, Dad was as fruity as a big bag of Queensland bananas, you wouldn’t know what he’d say next, but … I disavow those remarks and if some chick doesn’t wanna be a billboard for Hancock Mining, Cool Bananas.
In the meantime, let’s all get on the piss and Brittany Higgins for Australian of the Year.

Y’know, how hard is it?

Zipster
October 26, 2022 8:43 pm
Mater
October 26, 2022 8:44 pm

The Klan, yes; but he later persuaded them to disband and promoted harmony between black and white.

Or attempted to persuade them to disband, at least.

When violent Democrats get up a head of steam up, there’s just no stopping them.
A tradition that has stood the test of time.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2022 8:45 pm

Spanish Armada, maybe. Am I getting close?

Zipster
October 26, 2022 8:46 pm

All she hadda say on Day 1 was:

she doesn’t have to do shit to please small twerps

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 8:47 pm

Biggest sea battle. Jutland?

Lleyte Gulf – which, ironically, involved the last “clash of the dreadnoughts” at Surigao Strait.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 26, 2022 8:48 pm

Biggest sea battle.
Lizzie at the self serve.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 8:49 pm

Why are we still talking about The Klan?
It disbanded 145 years ago, all iterations since have been FBI Cointelpros.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 26, 2022 8:50 pm

FMD can the BOM do anything right? Just been watching storm 2 for the afternoon/evening bombing out by Dotswood Station and then just like that every doppler radar in QLD goes down, The Harveys Range radar goes down all the time. The one on Mt Stuart before the BOM decommissioned it was much better, same with the backup at the aerodrome but being at sea level it couldn’t see over the ranges. The present radar is unreliable and overestimates the rain intensity, it has done so since they commissioned it.

That said beautiful front came through about 4pm, stinking day that was cooled off nicely with around an inch in under an hour. Waiting for the second instalment but I think it will only be rain, lightning seems to be dying as soon as it is off the range…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 8:51 pm

Biggest sea battle. Jutland?

Salamis, followed by Lepanto. More sheepstations on the table.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2022 8:52 pm

Charlie Teo operated on a former colleagues wife.
That would have been a decade ago.
Everything is still fine.
Teo was the only one who would operate.
Zero idea how much it cost.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2022 8:52 pm

she doesn’t have to do shit to please small twerps
Oh yeah.
So, why has she disavowed The Langster’s 1982 remarks, then?

calli
calli
October 26, 2022 8:52 pm

Salamis?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 26, 2022 8:52 pm

Biggest sea battle? I have a go – Lepanto.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 8:54 pm

Then the Armada of course, quite a lot hung on that one.
The Anglican Church wouldn’t exist if they’d won.
And we’d all be speaking Spanish.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 8:59 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 26, 2022 at 8:48 pm

Biggest sea battle.
Lizzie at the self serve.

Yes!
We have a winner!
The battle of the C-Deck Laundromat.
Epic!

cohenite
October 26, 2022 9:02 pm

So, why has she disavowed The Langster’s 1982 remarks, then?

That’s just your weird fantasy.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 26, 2022 9:08 pm

Otoh, Shelby Foote maintained that Lincoln was one of two geniuses the war produced.

I read Shelby Foote in Kandahar, I wonder if anyone else on earth has done that…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 9:13 pm

I read Shelby Foote in Kandahar, I wonder if anyone else on earth has done that…

Be a hard act to follow.

calli
calli
October 26, 2022 9:14 pm

we haven’t made any progress

We definitely haven’t stayed still either. The movement has all been backwards.

Except for certain bank accounts. They’re definitely on the up and up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 9:18 pm

Scott Morrison’s apology to Brittany Higgins risked fair trial: lawyer
Angus Thompson
By Angus Thompson
October 26, 2022 — 8.51pm

Bruce Lehrmann’s former lawyer accused then-prime minister Scott Morrison of egregious conduct by apologising to Brittany Higgins in parliament, a move he said implied his client’s guilt and the accuser’s truthfulness and put the prospect of a fair trial at risk.

Morrison apologised to Higgins in the House of Representatives on February 8 “for the terrible things that took place here”. Responding to the first recommendation of the review into parliamentary workplace culture, he said that parliament should have been a place of safety but “turned out to be a nightmare”.
Brittany Higgins watches as Scott Morrison apologises to her in the House of Representatives.

The apology was among the reasons Lehrmann, a former ministerial staffer, applied in April to have his trial halted indefinitely as his legal team argued he would be unable to get a fair hearing due to the overwhelming publicity.

Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to sexually assaulting Higgins in a parliamentary office in the early hours of March 23, 2019 after a night out drinking with colleagues. He denies ever having sex with Higgins.

The contents and outcome of his unsuccessful stay application before ACT Supreme Court Chief Justice Lucy McCallum had been suppressed until Wednesday afternoon when the court lifted the non-publication order, while the jury continued deliberating in Lehrmann’s criminal trial after five days.

In her published remarks, McCallum said it was submitted by Lehrmann’s then-barrister David Campbell SC that Morrison’s apology “was particularly egregious as it imputed the accused with guilt of the offence or at least implicitly assumed the truthfulness of the complaint”.

“The accused submitted that the effect has been to elevate the complainant to a status she should not have for the purpose of the accused’s trial,” McCallum said in her April 29 judgment. “He submitted that the case is unique because the complainant ‘walks into court with an aura about her’ and that the problem this creates is incurable.”

She said Lehrmann’s barrister also submitted that the “vice of the pre-trial publicity here is its ‘enhancement’ of the complainant”.

“He submitted that this is a case of ‘accuser v accused’ in which the accuser (the complainant) has set out to discuss her accusation with the support and assistance of the media and the backing of famous people including the prime minister,” McCallum said.

In her decision, McCallum said the discourse after Higgins went public with her story in early 2021 “generally proceeded on the premise that the complaint was true” and cited sexual assault survivor advocate Grace Tame publicly recognising Higgins as a “survivor”, and crowd members at the March 4 Justice yelling to Higgins “we believe you”.

In refusing the application, McCallum said a jury member being aware of pre-trial publicity “is not of itself problematic.”

She said the court relied on the members of the jury panel to come forward in response to remarks made by the judge before the jury was empanelled.

“Examples may be brought to mind of trials in which most if not all members of the panel summoned for the purpose of selecting a jury were likely to have had some awareness of the notoriety of the case, such as the trial of Cardinal Pell and the trial of Robert Hughes of Hey, Dad! fame,” she said.

She said the critical concern was for the trial judge to take steps to ensure that each potential juror felt capable of giving impartial consideration to the case.

“To seek instead to regulate media discussion of criminal proceedings by the inexact tool of suppression and non-publication orders is a pious hope, particularly since the advent of the internet and social media,” she said.

Before the commencement of the trial, the judge asked the “party faithful” to consider whether they could impartially judge the facts of the case, and at the end of the evidence, she warned them they were not beholden to public opinion.

Makka
Makka
October 26, 2022 9:19 pm

… The net of it is clearly we haven’t made any progress.”

Well, not quite. $3.2 Trillion has changed hands. That’s a lot of progress in any one’s language. And the primary object of this climate colossal scam. To move money, mostly via public subsidy and from national treasuries, into selected hands.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 26, 2022 9:22 pm

And we’d all be speaking Spanish.

Que?

bons
bons
October 26, 2022 9:27 pm

Chief Justice McCallum has been nominated as the next Governor of Queensland.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2022 9:30 pm

“When violent Democrats get up a head of steam up, there’s just no stopping them.
A tradition that has stood the test of time.”

The Klan is now called Antifa.

Razey
Razey
October 26, 2022 9:31 pm

Chief Justice McCallum has been nominated as the next Governor of Queensland.

It’s a club, and you aint in it.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 26, 2022 9:31 pm

I read Shelby Foote in Kandahar, I wonder if anyone else on earth has done that…

Be a hard act to follow.

OTOH, I also read the Quran in Baghdad, which is probably less uncommon.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2022 9:32 pm

Shelby Foote

Shelby Foote would be cancelled now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 9:35 pm

I read Shelby Foote in Kandahar

Dr Duk wins the Cat for the next century.

I hope you weren’t also reading Kipling? I’d feel very inadequate if you did.

Indolent
Indolent
October 26, 2022 9:36 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 9:42 pm

Was Shelby Foote a flamer?

Indolent
Indolent
October 26, 2022 9:42 pm
Razey
Razey
October 26, 2022 9:47 pm

History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right

– 1984

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 9:58 pm

Wash your mouth out Sancho, Foote’s history is damn fine.
I liked his spots on Ken Burns’ docos too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2022 10:04 pm

sorry too much iodine

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 10:07 pm

I liked his spots on Ken Burns’ docos too.

I read his short stories in the old “Saturday Evening Post..”

2dogs
October 26, 2022 10:10 pm

How much of a precedent is this likely to set?

Are we likely to get broader reinstatements throughout US companies?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 26, 2022 10:22 pm

I hope you weren’t also reading Kipling? I’d feel very inadequate if you did.

Nope, but whilst in Kabul, I did recall that the sole survivor of Elphinstone’s 1842 retreat was the Regimental Dr, who eventually ‘galloped into the garrison at Jalalabad on an exhausted pony’

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2022 10:23 pm

I’m reading Ron Chernow’s biography of John D Rockefeller , Snr – apparently his father brought his mistress into the house, along with his wife, and began fathering children, alternately, by wife and mistress……

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2022 10:29 pm

Top Ender

– The Charge of the Light Brigade / Battle of Trafalgar (anniversaries recently)

How about the link between the Charge of the Light Brigade and the Battle of Leyte Gulf?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 10:33 pm

Just to let you know Dr Duk, a younger Duk helped my mum a couple years ago during the Covid mess. He was prepared to do GP house visits, she was in a difficult time. Because of da virus he decided the best thing he could do was wear his service overalls with mask. Still had his epaulettes. Sqn Ldr. I am much in appreciation of junior Sqn Ldr Duk for his help back then.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 10:41 pm

Battle of Leyte Gulf

The 78th anniversary is today btw.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 26, 2022 10:43 pm

I am much in appreciation of junior Sqn Ldr Duk for his help back then.

I wonder if he was shown the door*, as I was, for refusing to stay silent whilst the ADF used its power to coerce serving members and citizens to participate in a medical experiment.

* told I couldn’t speak out and wear the uniform – offered them my resignation – they accepted via return email – they cancelled my security card immediately and my one base visit after that (to return kit) required an escort.

After 20 years service, including 7 OS deployments, tossed aside like that, I cant wait for Nuremberg 2.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 10:43 pm

Oops, bingo BJ.
Also the 168th anniversary of the Charge.
I doffs me hat sir.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2022 10:53 pm

Dr Duk – I won’t give his name, he’s only mid thirties. I think he did a stint then decided to go into general practice. I don’t know how he is faring, this was after Covid got going but before the vaxxes were rolled out. My mum has returned to a GP she had had before the Covid mess, an old Irishman. I’m thankful to Dr Junior Duk though.

Zipster
October 26, 2022 11:03 pm

Chief Justice McCallum has been nominated as the next Governor of Queensland.

they could have waited till after the trial

Zipster
October 26, 2022 11:08 pm

In refusing the application, McCallum said a jury member being aware of pre-trial publicity “is not of itself problematic.”

there is no real justice in australia either

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 26, 2022 11:21 pm

Sorry wasn’t here…we were watching the last episodes of Stephen King’s 11.22.63.

About twice as long as it should have been, and half as good as it could have been.

Indolent
Indolent
October 26, 2022 11:44 pm
rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 12:36 am

“Tanya Plibersek said the government was investing in “evidence-based science, planning and construction projects”.”
Yeah, right.
“It comes as other Queensland projects like Hells Gate Dam, Emu Swamp and Urannah Dam had their funding withdrawn, reduced or deferred. ”
Federal budget confirms funding for Paradise Dam rebuild amid water project cuts

rickw
rickw
October 27, 2022 12:56 am

His first action. Close off the cheap energy supply.

WEF baby!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 27, 2022 1:51 am

Random stuff.

Ben Fordham must be really annoying Ray Hadley. Has a Facebook post about a girl from TAS who is Vax injured. Had a couple of other good posts recently including about EU MP and Pfizer evidence about not texting for transmission. Ben along with Rowan Dean and Alan Jones and Rita are on the good team. Just need some more.

Avi Yemeni recent clip is of a VIC cop stopping a female driver. Says reason is because suspects the car has false plates as description does not match the plate number. Car rego is actually Birth. Then proceeds to do alcohol and drug tests on her. Her friend films it all including the bit where they prove he lied about reason for the stop. Driver or somebody then called Avi. No idea but do they have a quota for testing people as he definitely had no reason to test her. Yet another example of why VICPOL are scum.

New com au seem to be having a few “not following the Vax narrative” type articles recently including a poll, that had 45,000 plus people, that was not favourable towards Vax. It indicated high levels of regret in taking the Vax.
Naturally those articles never make it into paper editions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 27, 2022 3:59 am

Lysander, one of my sons and two of my six grandchildren have level two autism with ADD; one is very smart indeed, just flighty and capricious, and the other at three is too young to tell, he enjoys mechanical diggers and is fixated upon buses, but his problem is he has very little speech capacity and will not make eye contact, so he particularly benefits from speech therapy. Both get interactive therapies as well, which in their cases I think are not worth the money given for them by the NDIS. My first son born fifty years ago received nothing, milder autism was never diagnosed in those days, and while his life hasn’t been economically successful and he has struggled with himself at times, he has proved to be an excellent dad to his kids. He has had two partners and produced a child with each, with only one being that smart but autistic kid. His other son is also smart, but neurologically normal. Hairy and I together have a son who is a lawyer who was a normal child (but he couldn’t tolerate loud noises until he was two), and it is his child who has the speech issues.

With kids you take what you get and humans have a great deal of variability, which starts young if it goes awry. That can include heartache for parents, but it comes with the territory. Provide them with a loving family environment like all humans need, and they can flourish still, but they won’t necessarily have a life path as easy as a parent would wish. The NDIS isn’t going to change that very much if at all. Self-respect and a job of some sort will though. Efforts should be directed to that outcome regarding ‘non-neurotypical’ kids. That is a community endeavour and doesn’t need the NDIS. Assistance could be offered in other ways, less expensive.

Lads like Tinta’s son (whom I’ve met and who is having the best life he can live assisted by his wonderful mum and dad), but who needs constant lifelong care not just some extra ‘support’, are what the NDIS should be about.

Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2022 4:19 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 27, 2022 4:31 am

Thanks Tom. What was Margolis on about?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2022 5:11 am

Some aspects of these US debates are sickening.
So many of the decision makers who shut down schools are now saying they didn’t or it was only for a couple of months.
It reminds me of the German who was made to dig the graves in Saving Private Ryan.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 27, 2022 5:46 am

Aruba is eighteen miles from the coast of Venuezela and is only 20 miles long and six miles wide. It is a dry place and covered in thorny organ pipe cactus and other cactii, including prickly pear and alloe vera, as it has a very low rainfall. Aloe Vera provides some limited income still. A desalination plant supplies most water and there is a prominent oil rig not far the port. It’s primary source of wealth is tourism; on the leeward side are clustered many hotels built with American money, and they are still building – a six-star is under construction to open soon.

Aruba’s location has been its saviour. It had two oil refineries servicing Venezuelan oil, which became very important in World War 2, where one was blown up by German attacks. The current one still provides a good income, although Venezuela is a serious problem to Aruba now – the average wage per month in Aruba is around $US900, for the island is quite well off, and in Venezuela it is $US4 if you can get any work at all. Hence, as our tour guide told us, the coastal strip to Venezuela is heavily patrolled now by US and Dutch vessels, as 30,000 unwanted immigrants had fled to add to the 120,000 residents, all of whom are Dutch citizens. The population is very mixed with a lot of Spanish descendants, though our guide claimed to be a local indigenous descendant, of whom there are now very few.

The island was originally Spanish, founded by Amerigo himself, then Dutch, then British (all due to European C17 to C19th skirmishes). Peter Stuyvesant was governor here and then in New Amsterdam until in an exchange New Amsterdam went to Britain, the peninsula swamp there becoming New York’s Manhattan, and Aruba remained Dutch. In the C20 the island sought its independence, receiving firstly a system of home rule. They were supposed to eventually become completely independent but the advantages of being Dutch won out, and the independence bill was ditched never to return. Now, with Curacao and Sint Maartin they form part of the four kingdoms of the Dutch Kingdom or Commonwealth, and all external relations are handled by the Dutch (with US help). During the Covid years the Dutch provided a guaranteed level of half-income support which was greatly appreciated.

Hairy and I climbed through some sort of pathway up through broken rock stairs to the top of a big rock vantage point, noted the volcanic core rising, the only major hill on the island, were taken to see where an ocean bridge archway had recently fallen in, and saw the tall Dutch influenced lighthouse with its many ornate windows, now replaced in function by radar. We also visited a very small and beautifully designed and presented chapel, replacing the original native wooden chapel first built there by the sea in 1750 when the Catholic missionaries arrived (most of the island is still Catholic). The area was obviously a sacred place to the original inhabitants and cave and other later archaeology in that area timelines their presence. There are now Stations of the Cross lining the road in.

A local man, who looked indigenous and poor, was selling stuff apart from the usual tourist stall, and I purchased from him a redundant car number plate. These nominate Aruba as ‘One Happy Island’. Mine is number A-365. No-one else on the bus seemed interested in them. I didn’t bargain for it as he had obviously had a lean couple of years. He grabbed my two hands and bowed over them in thanks as I handed him the cash. I’ll put it on the wall next to some palms in our Terrace Conservatory. Not on the same wall as my E11R sign taken from a British parliamentary building though. I like to have odd signals of other times around me at home. I also bought a Delft Blue Handcrafted cup No. 50740, displayed in the Delft Stall under the pics of the Dutch Royal Family, of whom the island is very proud.
I gave my pottery Guatemalan bird whistle a blow, making Hairy jump, as I put my new treasure on the shelf next to it, ready to pack in three days time for Fort Lauderdale.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 27, 2022 5:58 am

Leak draws the Aussie family so very well. He is really honing his cartooning style now.
Never misses a beat on the content either.

Australia is unplugged and the budget doesn’t do anything to fix that.

Johnny Rotten
October 27, 2022 6:12 am

Little Johnnie and Susie are only 10 years old, but they just know that they are in love.

One day they decided that they want to get married, so Johnnie decided to approach Susie’s father to ask him for her hand. Johnnie bravely walked up to him and said “Mr. Smith, me and Susie are in love and I want to ask you for her hand in marriage.”

Thinking that this was the cutest thing ever, Mr. Smith replied, “Well Johnnie, you are only 10. Where will you two live?”

Without even taking a moment to think about it, Johnnie replied, “In Susie’s room, of course. It’s bigger than mine and we can both fit our stuff in there nicely.”

Still thinking this is just adorable, Mr. Smith said with a huge grin, “Okay then how will you live? You’re not old enough to get a job. You’ll need to support Susie.”

Again, Johnnie instantly replied, “Our allowance – Susie makes 5 bucks a week and I make 10 bucks a week. That’s about 60 bucks a month, and that should do us just fine.”

By this time Mr. Smith is a little shocked that Johnnie had put so much thought into his proposal. So, Mr. Smith thought for a moment, as he tried to come up with something that Johnnie wouldn’t know how to answer. After another moment, Mr. Smith said, “Well Johnnie, it seems like you have got everything all figured out. I just have one more question for you. What will you do if the two of you should have little ones of your own?”

Johnnie just shrugged his shoulders and said, “Well, gosh, Mr. Smith, I’ve been worried about that, but we’ve been lucky so far…”

Johnny Rotten
October 27, 2022 6:13 am

Gambling: The sure way of getting nothing for something.

– Wilson Mizner

bespoke
bespoke
October 27, 2022 6:26 am
March
October 27, 2022 6:33 am

Let the lockout begin. Australian state government hands over control of National Parks to “first nations”. First act: close one of country’s most popular parks and ban the public. https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2022/10/the-grim-warning-of-mount-warning/

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 27, 2022 6:50 am

Winston Smith says:

October 26, 2022 at 6:41 pm

Sure. If you like.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2022 6:53 am

Watched snippets of that Fetterman chap in Pennsylvania take part in the live debate as part of the gargantuan midterm process. Never really taken an interest in him before – it was ‘oh, the weird hoodie bloke’.

It is now clear to me that Fetterman’s sponsors have put him into the electoral race in the same manner as the TV producers who select a double amputee for a series of So You Think You Can Dance.

Votes/ratings at the expense of content/talent via a perceived triumph of the human spirit, aka stunning and brave.

duncanm
duncanm
October 27, 2022 7:01 am

Examples may be brought to mind of trials in which most if not all members of the panel summoned for the purpose of selecting a jury were likely to have had some awareness of the notoriety of the case, such as the trial of Cardinal Pell

With all due respect your Honor. Exactly

bons
bons
October 27, 2022 7:02 am

Duk, you are heroic. You have demonstrated yet again the danger to defence capability represented by the Defence People Group.
Senior uniformed officers are criminals for allowing that coup to be implemented by the HRC.
So you cannot express opinions in uniform. Right.
Err, well, except at the faggot festival.
Defence is stuffed.

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 27, 2022 7:03 am

Polling in the USA now consistently reveals a majority who regard the MSM as the greatest threat to democracy.
For years, the MSM has stretched the boundaries of credibility to make the absurd fit the narrative. They’ve been caught telling us falsehoods that were obvious falsehoods. They created a narrative bubble, which is now bursting. Six out of ten Americans know they’ve been lying to us. They’re now seen as the propaganda ministry of the Left and the political party the Left controls.

duncanm
duncanm
October 27, 2022 7:04 am

“Tanya Plibersek said the government was investing in “evidence-based science, planning and construction projects”.”

oh dear.. that would be the “speed of science” kind.

duncanm
duncanm
October 27, 2022 7:08 am

DrBeauGansays:
October 27, 2022 at 4:31 am
Thanks Tom. What was Margolis on about?

Dr Beau,

its about as inscrutible as one of Warren’s AFL cartoons would be to the yanks.

NY (apple) Mets (baseball team) has just signed some fast pitcher called (H)efner.

duncanm
duncanm
October 27, 2022 7:10 am

Oh dear. I found Rowe’s cartoon quite clever and amusing.

Am I losing it ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2022 7:17 am

The NT News headline:

Midflight blowjob: Pilot assaulted while flying plane

In the ordinary course of events, one wouldn’t really regard this as an ‘assault’ However:

Jarrison Lalara, 19, was sentenced in the Supreme Court on Monday, after pleading guilty to aggravated assault and endangering the safe operation of an aircraft.

The court heard the teenager assaulted the pilot on a remote charter flight only four weeks after being released from prison for a horrific boiling water attack.

The 19-year-old sister-girl was flying with four members of their family on April 11, 2022 when the plane landed on an island at East Arnhem Land.

‘Sister-girls’ are the rough equivalent of the trannies who read to young children in libraries, except these ones are (slightly) less flamboyantly dressed, smaller and drunker. Apparently they are quite popular in prison.

Their family left the plane, leaving Lalara and the pilot alone as it prepared for takeoff to go to the next island. Chief Justice Michael Grant said Lalara began asking the pilot personal questions.
“You then asked the pilot if you could suck his penis,” Justice Grant said.

“He refused and felt understandably uncomfortable at that approach.” After the chartered plane took off Lalara continued to pursue the pilot, again asking to give him a blowjob. “You then placed your hand on the pilot’s thigh and squeezed his penis,” Justice Grant said.

“The pilot removed your hand and told you to stop. Despite his protests, Lalara massaged the pilot’s shoulders and groped him, squeezing his genitals four more times during the 35km flight.

“On each occasion the pilot removed your hand and told you to stop while he continued attempting to fly the aircraft,” Justice Grant said.

Then:

Lalara was arrested soon after the assault.

And:

Justice Grant said at the time Lalara was on a suspended sentence for a horrific attack on a woman which left her with burns to 10 per cent of her body.

Lalara threw boiling water on his victim, scarring her face, neck and chest and leaving her with life-threatening injuries.

In traditional fashion, trannies – i.e., fake women – have a deep loathing for actual women. The sister-girls are most common on the Tiwis, although there are a smattering across the Top End coastline saltwater communities.

As a contrast – the bigger, stronger, nastier Central Australian Walpiris do not stand for that sort of thing for one single, solitary second.

The sister-girls are nasty, scratchy, spiteful little packages and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if this dude wanted to go back to prison, where he’d be protected by the other prisoners in exchange to regular polishing.

Lalara got his wish. Two years in the bin, and of vigorous jaw exercises.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2022 7:17 am

“Polling in the USA now consistently reveals a majority who regard the MSM as the greatest threat to democracy.”

No surprises. The MSM is the enemy of the people.

Johnny Rotten
October 27, 2022 7:23 am

My definition of an intellectual is someone who can listen to the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger.

– Billy Connolly

bespoke
bespoke
October 27, 2022 7:30 am

In the ordinary course of events, one wouldn’t really regard this as an ‘assault’ 

What’s the correct description?

Johnny Rotten
October 27, 2022 7:33 am

There are two excellent theories for arguing with women. Neither one works.

– Anonymous

Struth
October 27, 2022 7:34 am

You naughty people.

I got something totally wrong yesterday…I’m getting older, and people could have had a field day with it.

I got WC Gosse and Ernest Giles mixed up when it was actually Ernest Giles buried in Coolgardie.

Now I have to try to live with myself.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 27, 2022 7:34 am

The legacy meja in the west now make pravda and izvestia look sane and decent

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 7:35 am
rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 7:37 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2022 7:38 am

Augusta National Golf Club Under Investigation in DOJ Antitrust Probe

Augusta National Golf Club, which hosts the Masters, is under investigation in the Justice Deptartment antitrust probe of the PGA Tour and other bodies.

Isn’t it amazing how the DOJ only started investigating the blatantly illegal rules the PGA & the whole US golf blob maintains after the Saudi’s LIV tour kicks off.
You can not tell me the two are unrelated.
There’s a reason there are 250,000 Saudi’s with dual US citizenship (the only country the Saudi’s allow it with).

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 7:44 am

I’m just disappointed Dan didn’t do a Justin and play dress ups as well
Daniel Andrews under fire for hosting ‘culturally insensitive’ Diwali event

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2022 7:47 am

Most people just don’t realise how insidious the influence of Saudi money is.
Makes BlackRock & Fink almost look human.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 27, 2022 7:49 am

A great argument for energy independence

Indolent
Indolent
October 27, 2022 7:52 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 27, 2022 7:52 am

In the Daily Tele:

How likely would you be to vote Labor at the next election if they break their power bill promise?

Very unlikely 82 %
Unlikely 5 %
Likely 1 %
Very likely 5 %
This issue will not affect how I vote 7 %
3657 votes

Vote here if you can climb the paywall

WolfmanOz
October 27, 2022 7:55 am

Great article today in the Speccic by James Allan:

A couple of days ago, Greg Sheridan had a piece in The Australian in which he argued:

‘Covid has been diabolical for centre-right governments around the world. They handled Covid generally no better or worse than centre-left governments. But Covid hurt conservatives in two crippling ways.’
Sheridan then at length goes into how all the massive spending crippled the reputation of conservative governments (or supposedly conservative ones) because it gutted one of their main selling points: that they were more fiscally careful, more thrifty, and more likely to deliver a balanced budget than the left-of-centre crowd. And that is true, sort of, subject to a caveat I’ll make below. What is not true, in my view, is Sheridan’s implicit suggestion that this is the main way in which the pandemic hurt right-of-centre parties around the anglosphere and more widely across the democratic world.

At this point readers might be wondering what that second crippling way in which ‘Covid hurt conservatives’ might have been. After over half an article on the loss of fiscal credentials, Sheridan gives this second circumstance or feature to the readers in one sentence, in under twenty words. Sheridan writes that on top of the emasculation of their economic credentials, ‘Covid left centre-right constituencies confused over civil liberties, with a segment of their base disgruntled.’ Have you ever read a more Jesuitical, weasel-wordy, sophistical, dissembling account (I’m trying to be kind) of what irks us conservatives about the last two-plus years of life in an anglosphere democracy?

Look, we have just lived through the worst inroads on our civil liberties in three centuries (those are retired UK Supreme Court Justice Lord Sumption’s words, not mine, though he’s right). Greg, it’s a bit more than being ‘confused over civil liberties’.

Right-of-centre politicians in Britain and here in Australian were a disgrace. They either enacted thuggish policies (here in Australia think inter alia about stopping citizens from leaving the country, no other democracy was doing that, or deferring with nary a criticism to despotic premiers) or deferred holus bolus to a public health clerisy that genuflected before models, not hard data (when world’s best epidemiologists were laying down what the data and facts pointed towards in the Great Barrington Declaration) or they disempowered their own real Cabinet in favour of a cadre of mostly lefty Premiers in the name of a made-up ‘National Cabinet’ that is nowhere in the Constitution.

Boris Johnson has an actual communist in his SAGE advisory group but not Oxford’s Professor Sunetra Gupta, holder of the world’s most prestigious chair in the field. ScoMo couldn’t summon up the will to say a single negative thing about Chairman Dan and his world’s toughest lockdowns. And as near on everyone here in the pages of The Spectator Australia pointed out from the beginning, right back in March of 2020, this set of policies was going to devastate the young in favour of the very old and very obese (without even asking the old whether they wanted to ruin their grandchildren’s lives). It was going to crush the small business sector (many of whom will never forgive the Liberals, and I say that after a night on stage with Jay Bhattacharya in Melbourne filled with over 500 people, mostly from the small business sector, who relentlessly booed any politician linked to the Libs, as well Dan the Dictator). These policies produced the best two years ever for the uber-wealthy, for the big corporations (who could stay open when small businesses were shut down), for the public service types with nice homes who quite liked working from home, for the already rich, the list goes on. And you’ll note that this list of beneficiaries is comprised of people who generally vote Left.

These were also policies that devastated school results – go and check out the differences in the US between lockdown states and non-lockdown states on math and English scores of high school students. Before the pandemic, Australia was behind Kazakhstan and now is probably battling it out with Sierre Leone to avoid basement status. Poor kids will never make this up. They have had their lives massively affected. For the virtue-signalling laptop class, the core beneficiaries of lockdowns, you might also like to know that these policies will take away some 75 million life years from those in the third-world (that’s Professor Bhattacharya’s claim, and he is an epidemiologist for all the ‘you’re not a doctor’ buffoons out there).

It gets worse. These brutal, thuggish, despotic laws and regulations (recall that Greg described them as ‘confusions over civil liberties’) had absolutely no science behind them. In October 2019, a century of data that lay behind the WHO pandemic plan and the British plan (that Sweden alone followed) said ‘don’t lock down; trust your citizens; give them information; focus your efforts and protections on the vulnerable’. In the course of six or seven weeks, we threw that all out based on bogus claims from China and a few videos from Italy. Worse again, from the start we knew that the young and healthy were not at any real risk at all. Our conservative governments flat-out lied to us and pretended we were all at risk. They lied; we’re not confused.

Or look at the institutions supposedly there to protect our civil liberties. The Australian Human Rights Commission was composed of Commissioners that were all Coalition appointees. Each and every one of them. Not one uttered a peep throughout the pandemic about the brutality of police behaviour or the idiocy and irrationality of most of the rules or the heartlessness of the border regulations. Not a single peep from these self-styled human rights defenders. Nada. Nothing. Zippo. Give them three uni students who wander into an empty computer room reserved for Aboriginal students and the AHRC will bring the weight of the state down on them, pour encourager les autres. But brutalise the population and transmogrify the police into thugs and they turn into Sargeant Shulz of ‘I see nothing’ fame.

So, ya Greg, some of us conservatives are fuming mad. And if you think I’m angry here’s what a decades-long conservative voter (at one point incredibly well-connected to the Libs) sent to me recently:

‘I don’t think you are angry enough Jim. Not since the worship of Baal, or whatever the alternative Aztec deity was, have we sacrificed so many children for such low returns. [These whitewash efforts are] just an attempt by courtiers to paper over the cracks and provide a defensible defeat for those whose favour they like to curry.’
And trust me Greg, there are loads of conservative voters like me, more Old Testament than New Testament in our anger right now, who want a grovelling apology – of the sort that the newly installed conservative premier in Alberta, Canada just offered last week.

Peter Dutton, whom I like and supported over Morrison after the riddance of Turnbull, is making a big mistake in offering up enervated pleas ‘that we didn’t know how devastating the school closures would be’. Yes, Peter, you did – or should have. Because I and others were saying it in print from March of 2020. And so were three of the world’s best epidemiologists in the Great Barrington Declaration. If you didn’t hear it then your decision-making procedures were woeful. No, they were criminally negligent. Where was the red team, the people assigned to put across the opposing views and positions.

Frankly, these sort of waffly, enfeebled pleas in mitigation will ensure core conservatives take a decade to return to the tent. Admit you were shockingly wrong, give a proper heartfelt apology, and many of us can move on. We’ll be angry still. But we’ll move on. Half-hearted justifications of the last two-plus years are a terrible mistake. Boris lost power because he failed to follow his hero Churchill and stand up for what (by all accounts) he knew was the right thing to do.

Want to see conservative politicians who did stand up for civil liberties throughout the pandemic and how they’re faring? Look at Ron DeSantis. In 2018 he won the Florida governorship by 30,000 odd votes out of 8.5 million. In a fortnight he’s going to win by a massive amount. Same for all the other Republican Governors who stood up against the wrongheaded public health clerisy and, yes, the media class. Because what Greg Sheridan nowhere touches upon is the role of the legacy press in the last two years – how they stoked fear; how they never bothered to learn the data and read the studies and look at the actual infection fatality rates for different age groups; how they became the fear porn Pravda arm of the lockdown state. And my memory is that you, Greg, were as supportive of lockdowns as the next journalist. Right?

So the base is a little more than disgruntled. In point of fact we are not ‘confused over civil liberties’ as Sheridan quaintly claims. We thought conservative governments were for freedom of the individual, for small business, for not jumping straight to policies that emulated China’s ‘let’s weld them in their homes’ approach and we turned out to be wrong.

Last thing. It was not Covid that did this to right-of-centre parties. It was the response to Covid by politicians. As Sheridan correctly points out, the anger about this thuggish, wrong-headed, massively costly, response is asymmetrical. Left-of-centre voters (I generalise you understand) are more in sync with big government, with imposing answers on the rest of us, with not tolerating dissent approaches. But for conservative politicians this was always going to come back to bite them down the road. Let me point out that Sweden, right now, has fewer cumulative excess deaths per capita than we do – and that is surely the one ungameable, deaths statistic that matters. Be clear. Australia did not handle the pandemic well, Scott Morrison and his attempts to line up speaking gigs notwithstanding. We were awful and on just about every axis of concern. And enough conservative voters can see this to make it likely the Coalition loses in NSW next year.

Principle and values matter. Conservative parties and politicians around the world, with a few noteworthy exceptions, showed they didn’t have them. They succumbed to cowardice and focus groupitis. It was that that really killed their electoral prospects for the foreseeable future. You’ll note that just about every new Republican running in the midterms is not tainted with a pro-lockdown record. Same goes for Premier Danielle Smith in Alberta and the new Opposition conservative leader in Canada who marched with the trucker protesters.

‘Not on my watch’ should have been made of sterner stuff.

Bravo . . . but it does sound like our own Cassie from Sydney may have helped him !

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2022 7:55 am

In the “before times” getting your Melbourne cup lunch/event sorted was something that had to be locked in a month before the big day.
Now, I am still getting emails from top notch Sydney venues hawking “it’s not too late for a Cup booking”.
Indicative of many things I suppose.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 27, 2022 7:58 am

Is it just me or is Kari Lake very attractive?
Like most conservative women?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 27, 2022 7:58 am

One omission KD
‘Aspiring didgeridoo artist.’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2022 7:58 am

The Tele:

A Sydney truck driver has admitted he never told police he believed a recently slain bikie was the masked gunman who executed former Comanchero boss Mick Hawi.

Moustafa Salami, 41, confessed in court on Wednesday that

Stop. Stop. They’re just taking the piss now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2022 7:59 am

Aspiring didgeridoo artist

Follow your dreams!

Indolent
Indolent
October 27, 2022 8:00 am

How Businesses are softening up the Public for a Chinese-Style Social Credit System

This is from the Expose on a survey conducted before 2020 on the idea of a social credit score. And then this –

For anyone who has been following the true nature of events over the past few years, it comes as no surprise that financial institutions are ahead of the pack when it comes to an attempt to control people and their behaviour through money, even though it is our earnings which these institutions are using as the tool against us.

As our regular readers will be aware, they are using covert forms of a social credit system in their never-ending attempt to shut The Exposé down.

The latest attempt was last weekend. The Exposé’s account was frozen and the donations in the account were “temporarily” blocked.

What “temporarily” practically means is not clear. But not allowing access to one’s own funds is tantamount to theft.

It also demonstrates that the social credit system is already here and ready to be rolled out.

And this is the U.K.

Details of the survey are below. What it proves is that none of this is accidental. It was all planned, as is the digital prison they are preparing for us.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2022 8:03 am

Thanks Wolfman.

So, ya Greg, some of us conservatives are fuming mad. And if you think I’m angry here’s what a decades-long conservative voter (at one point incredibly well-connected to the Libs) sent to me recently:

‘I don’t think you are angry enough Jim. Not since the worship of Baal, or whatever the alternative Aztec deity was, have we sacrificed so many children for such low returns. [These whitewash efforts are] just an attempt by courtiers to paper over the cracks and provide a defensible defeat for those whose favour they like to curry.’

The baked in disadvantage so many of these kids face will be hard to reverse.

Indolent
Indolent
October 27, 2022 8:05 am

Us Citizens Were Tracked Via Secret ‘Covid Decree Violation’ Scores

Call me paranoid, but I stopped carrying my phone during lockdowns.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2022 8:06 am

“How likely would you be to vote Labor at the next election if they break their power bill promise?”

My analysis is that Australians didn’t vote for Labor at the last election, rather they voted to throw out Scumbag Morrison and his motley crew. The problem with this is that you get something infinitely worse, a Labor government that doesn’t hesitate implementing its policies.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 8:08 am

Hear! hear! James Allan.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 8:10 am

So disappointed to hear fracking will be banned again in the UK.
Something will eventually have to arise from the climate fetish ashes.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 27, 2022 8:11 am

No, you can’t do it. It’s assault.
Swampy adjacent wanker could probably do with a bit of a smack.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 27, 2022 8:17 am

feelthebernsays:

October 27, 2022 at 7:47 am

Most people just don’t realise how insidious the influence of Saudi money is.

You mean like Pat Cummins and Adam Zampa giving Alinta a kicking but when asked about Aramco it was “Meh. It’s complicated.”
Aramco sponsors the current T20 World Cup and the IPL.
Given Aramco is owned by the Saudi Government and pumps 12,000,000 barrels of oil PER DAY, you’d think they would be on Pat’s radar.
But he knows.
One word and he doesn’t play IPL again.

calli
calli
October 27, 2022 8:20 am

I used to love watching sport. Can’t be bothered any more. Just about every code is now dead to me.

Only interested if the grandchildren are playing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 27, 2022 8:21 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 26, 2022 at 10:43 pm
Oops, bingo BJ.
Also the 168th anniversary of the Charge.
I doffs me hat sir.

There is a closer link than that, to do with signals and cipher security measures.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 27, 2022 8:24 am

So you cannot express opinions in uniform. Right. Err, well, except at the faggot festival. Defence is stuffed.

Indeed it is. Like the rest of the Western world, *everything* that made us independent and free is being torn down by the left. I gave 20 years reserve service, including providing high end trauma and aeromedical skills that the regular ADF could not provide from within its own ranks. So much so that, of my 7 deployments, only 4 were working for the ADF itself, 1 was for the USAF, 1 for the USN, and one for the UN (forgive me!). At the end, I was escorted off the base. Add that to all the other atrocities seen in this country over the last 2 and a half years and I now feel no service obligation to the Australian people and will never salute the flag again.

My daughter was so proud when she joined the army reserve a few years back. She passed the physical first time (I wouldn’t have – she rides a lot of horses), slogged her way through Kapooka in winter, and, when sent to learn how to drive trucks for them, was the ONLY person (male or female) who went to the course already in possession of a truck licence (she used to drive a horse feed delivery truck – before the covid madness cost her that job – it not being safe for her to work solo all day in the cab without the vaxx!).

Last year, a bit before I left, she came to me sheepishly and asked me if I would be terribly upset if she resigned from the ADF. I told her no, I thought she should do it, the country had changed and neither the people nor the government were worthy of her service, and would not thank her for it.

That is just one short story illustrating the terrible terrible damage wrought on this country and its social fabric over the last few years, particularly since C19.

calli
calli
October 27, 2022 8:28 am

Well Duk, I am grateful. And I’m not alone.

She sounds like the sort of person who can turn her hand to anything. What does she have in mind?

Indolent
Indolent
October 27, 2022 8:29 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
October 27, 2022 8:29 am

Vaccines don’t work as well in people aged over 70?

Real vaccines work by stimulating the immune system – for that reason, they don’t work well in people with poor immune systems, ie the elderly, chronically sick, malnourished, on immunosuppressant medications, diabetics etc etc etc

This is a fundamental point which they knew, but lied to us about – its why ‘herd immunity’ for highly contagious respiratory viruses is a myth – my immune system DOES NOT PROTECT YOU – so no, I won’t let you force me into it ‘to protect grandma’ you evil lying bastards.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 27, 2022 8:30 am

Cassie of Sydney at 8:06 – I would say that is true of most post-Hewson, small target elections. Particularly Abbott and the end of R-G-R. At a State level it certainly applied to the end of Emperor Barney and the rise of Sneakers in the West.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 27, 2022 8:32 am

Hear! hear! James Allan.

Always worth reading.

shatterzzz
October 27, 2022 8:33 am

Call me paranoid, but I stopped carrying my phone during lockdowns.

I still don’t ..! .. got into the habit of doing without it .. very rarely take it out of the house with me anymore ..!

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2022 8:33 am

James Allen is right…of course. He’s also very handsome.

LOL.

Crossie
Crossie
October 27, 2022 8:33 am

Cassie, Labor is worse but there was no other option than to turf out Scummo and his enablers. If they won the election they would have seen that as a seal of approval for what they had done during the lockdowns and their commitment to renewables.

Libs must be thrown out to bring in a new generation of representatives that have seen the folly of their predecessors’ ways. I know we will have terrible three years while Labor smashes everything we have for the sake of the teals crowd, their real constituency. The working class and the laptop class will fight it out in the next few years with the workers hopefully winning.

duncanm
duncanm
October 27, 2022 8:35 am

There’s easy ways to disable GPS/sharing of that data until you need it in an app.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2022 8:37 am

Well, according to Liberal Party elites, people like James Allan, myself and others here should not criticise the Liberals. According to Peter Dutton, we’re extreme right and washed up PHON and UAP voters and according to Nick Cater we must move on from the last nine years.

Read my lips Nick….

NO….NOPE…..NON….NYET…..NUP.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2022 8:38 am

Cassie, Labor is worse but there was no other option than to turf out Scummo and his enablers. If they won the election they would have seen that as a seal of approval for what they had done during the lockdowns and their commitment to renewables.”

Correct Crossie. We had no choice.

shatterzzz
October 27, 2022 8:39 am

My analysis is that Australians didn’t vote for Labor at the last election, rather they voted to throw out Scumbag Morrison and his motley crew.

And before that we didn’t vote Labor but BRADBURY to keep Bill Shitten out ..
the vote-herd can’t win .. which is what the troughers luv about us ..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 27, 2022 8:41 am

duncanmsays:

October 27, 2022 at 8:35 am

There’s easy ways to disable GPS/sharing of that data until you need it in an app.

Yep.
No need to get all paranoid about the phone.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 27, 2022 8:43 am

Frankly, these sort of waffly, enfeebled pleas in mitigation will ensure core conservatives take a decade to return to the tent.

As I told Senator Antic recently – the appalling failure of so called ‘Liberal’ governments at both state (SA) and national level to protect the people from the appalling COVID repression measures means I will NEVER vote for them again – I want to see them, and everyone else responsible, swinging from a mound of salted skulls from a bridge.

Where was the red team, the people assigned to put across the opposing views and positions.

I, for one, was fending off police visits, getting arrested at demonstrations and fending off AHPRA investigations.

Last thing. It was not Covid that did this to right-of-centre parties. It was the response to Covid by politicians.

That x1000: it was conscious political decisions, enforced by our craven security apparatus and professional bodies that did all the damage. The virus was NEVER going to be bad enough to warrant what they did, we knew that, and they knew that by March 2020, after the Diamond Princess experiment.

calli
calli
October 27, 2022 8:43 am

So the base is a little more than disgruntled. In point of fact we are not ‘confused over civil liberties’ as Sheridan quaintly claims. We thought conservative governments were for freedom of the individual, for small business, for not jumping straight to policies that emulated China’s ‘let’s weld them in their homes’ approach and we turned out to be wrong.

They betrayed us. They betrayed the country.

And now we have Albo, who kept a very low profile indeed and will betray us even further.

Crossie
Crossie
October 27, 2022 8:44 am

Talking of the working class and the effects of COVID …

A plumber who recently replaced my hot water heater mentioned that most of the equipment and supplies he has to buy now cost more than double what they did pre-covid. Of course he has to pass these costs on to customers. He thinks if things keep going that way he may start losing jobs as people will not be able to pay him.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 27, 2022 8:48 am

Cohenite at 7.04pm says:-

Artificial and accelerated evolution also works; the US black man was bred for size and aggression for a couple of centuries resulting in a much higher crime rate within that population today.

I saw this from last night. I’m not wanting a stoush but the above sounds just a tad, erm, controversial. Is there any peer-reviewed science behind that? Just sounds a little David Duke-ish to me. No offence, Cohenite, but where does that idea come from. BTW as a Christian I see that all humans have the Imago Dei, made in the image of God.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 27, 2022 8:48 am

Crossie

Labor smashes everything we have for the sake of the teals crowd, their real constituency. The working class and the laptop class will fight it out in the next few years with the workers hopefully winning.

Labor has long since ceased being the party of the working class. Those fancy dinner parties and restaurants are not in the outer suburbs, neither are the homes of the wankerdemics they so lurrrrve to cosy up to.

There is a constituency there for the taking, by a party willing to fight for social conservatism and a (genuine) mixed economy.

Zipster
October 27, 2022 8:49 am

This is a fundamental point which they knew, but lied to us about

they lied about everything and continue to do so

calli
calli
October 27, 2022 8:50 am

One of the businesses that thrived under Covid was home improvement/renovation.

No longer. Enquiries are starting to dry up as interest rates rise. Add the fear of jumps in COL and price of materials – people will just make do and try to ride it out. Forget the high turnover big builders – many more of them will fold as fixed price contracts bite. The smaller firms doing cost + will do a bit better.

The ones who will rake it in will be those on the government teat. Those “million homes” have to come from somewhere, mostly over-priced and straight out of the taxpayers’ pockets.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 27, 2022 8:51 am

She sounds like the sort of person who can turn her hand to anything. What does she have in mind?

Now making a lot more money running her own equestrian business – I am off there shortly with my home engineered pump and skimmer to take the duckweed off the dam.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2022 8:52 am

“Real vaccines work by stimulating the immune system – for that reason, they don’t work well in people with poor immune systems, ie the elderly, chronically sick, malnourished, on immunosuppressant medications, diabetics etc etc etc”
Is that why older people get free annual flu shots, need covid boosters but are still more likely to succumb to flu/covid anyhow, because there is always a limit to what vaccination can do for people with seriously compromised immune systems?
And doesn’t that make the covid vaccines real vaccines, albeit ones that reduce in efficacy too quickly?

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  1. I have all my aircons on. A few widespread blackouts – while bloody inconvenient – are a damn sight less…

  2. I don’t think your heart is in the right place that the idiots in Canberra have put us in. 🙂

  3. Well, the zap didn’t correct my AFib, so off for a pacemaker. I’m expecting to feel 200% in three hours…

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