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Suicide of Saul, Pieter Bruegel, 1562


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Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 6:06 pm

A man went to his lawyer and told him “My neighbour owes me $500 and he won’t pay up. What should I do?” “Do you have any proof he owes you the money?” asked the lawyer. “Nope” replied the man. “Okay, then write him a letter asking him for the $1,000 he owes you” said the lawyer. “But it’s only $500” replied the man. “Precisely. That’s what he will reply and then you’ll have your proof!”

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 6:06 pm

FluyingDik:

At the risk of awakening Sun Tsu again, might I say:

I remember him well – he was one of my better students, but quite verbose. I gave him an A- for arguing about the efficacy of “Kill them all. God will know his own.”

cohenite
November 10, 2022 6:07 pm

White women and young, brainwashed retards got the demorats over the line in the midterms.

Johnny Rotten
November 10, 2022 6:07 pm

I tell you. In this world, being a little crazy helps to keep you sane.

– Zsa Zsa Gabor

P
P
November 10, 2022 6:12 pm

Blame Trump for the ‘Red Trickle’? Nonsense.

The GOP establishment is already trying to ding The Donald for its own underwhelming strategies and messaging. Do not buy it.

DeSantis has a big and bright future. But it cannot come at a cost to the MAGA movement. Even those surrounding and supportive of the victorious Florida governor accept that DeSantis is closer to the GOP comfort zone – including the neoconservatives – than Trump is. The Florida governor had the winds at his back in this election – an horrific opponent, a mass Republican migration to the Sunshine State, and of course, his own well-earned incumbent record to run on. I think I may even have been the first person to tell DeSantis, during a 2015 Sirius XM news interview, that he would be president one day. But I do not think that time is now, and I do not fancy the governor wants to be the “kingmaker” of the party just yet. We shouldn’t force that fight.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 6:12 pm

Flynonduk:

Cue the government, therefore, solving this economic hurdle by making it ‘free’.

When and where did this happen?
I’m trying to get the cash together to put in a rainwater system but can’t quite afford it this week – I’m a poor old pensioner, you know.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 6:18 pm

Flyingduk:

And to root out and fire the ‘peace generals’ (Morrison, Campbell, I’m looking at you. Sirs)

As I read that, I had a thought bubble of an older, S/SGT adding the Sir on the end before I got to it.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 6:22 pm

What Did Obama Know and When Did He Know It!
Judicial Watch
Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Barak Obama Presidential Library for Obama White House records about the 2016 “Russia Collusion Hoax.” The records, which by law were not available under FOIA until five years after President Obama left office, are held at the Library, which is part of the National Archives system (Judicial Watch, Inc. v National Archives and Records Administration (No. 1:22-cv-03310)).

everyone in the obama administration was corrupt

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 6:24 pm

Johanna calls out the people who called out the US electoral corruption and then tells us all how corrupt their electoral process is, in a grand example of an own goal.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 6:25 pm

Cohenite:
“pink wink”
That’s very disturbing mind picture you’ve drawn there, sport.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 6:27 pm

Amazing, also, how the RNCC gets it biggest win in a generation with Dobbs and decided to go all quiet about it. They even spent money on a poll which should a popular defensible position re Dobbs, think legal until fetal heart or for first trimester, but decided to not have the fight while the Dems maligned them unopposed.

What do you think a regular single female thought about Dobbs?

Brad Wilcox
@BradWilcoxIFS
Married men broke Republican by 20 pts

Married women broke R by 14 pts

Unmarried men broke R by 7 pts

But *unmarried women* broke D “by whopping 37 pts”

Dover, a large number of these races were tight where 2% to 3% is the difference between winning and losing. I’m not suggesting the SCOTUS did anything wrong. In fact they corrected very bad law. The abortion issue may have had that small margin effect on some results.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 6:28 pm

The fucking jabbed compliant gooses calling for Trump to bow out are so so dead wrong.

He now needs to go harder.

De Santos still has plenty of time to go next.
Trump may make the faint hearted nervous but the faint hearted got us into this mess.
Maybe it’s time for them to fuck off.

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 6:28 pm

RINOS are blaming Trump – now there’s a surprise.

P says:
November 10, 2022 at 5:54 pm

Sarah Huckabee Sanders
https://twitter.com/SarahHuckabee/status/1590534800531918848

A beautiful family photo.

Another Divine Sarah, like our local one at the TURC. Rest assured, she will not be spending her time opening flower shows.

I well remember her boxing the ears of the pissweak, entitled presstitutes when she was Trump’s Press Secretary. She is bulletproof, articulate, and very clever indeed.

🙂

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 6:29 pm

Walli Dali:

… we don’t really have governance in Australia, we just have a laptop class who are plundering our larder and making play-dough figurines in their own image.

The playdough is self produced, from the great supply dump of Shit in Canberra.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 6:31 pm

Talk about playing straight into the hands of the left going after Trump and suggesting he should step down.
Fuck you

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
November 10, 2022 6:32 pm

The First Nations Ambassador budget would spend $1.3 million initially on a taskforce in the department, remuneration for the ambassador, international and domestic engagement as well as meeting facilitation.

Why do First Nations Ambassadors, or any other title for that matter, need to go overseas? Isn’t everything they need here in Oz? They’re always telling us it is.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 6:33 pm

Well I have just drunk a 2021 Allegiance Mataro Graciano Shiraz.

2021.

But the woman in my local shop swore by it. (“Fuck, this fuckin’ shit is the crust’s tits, ya crunt. Faaark!” – her English has come a long way since she fuckin’ left Germany.)

Mataro (also called ‘Mourvèdre’) is a Spanish grape. Graciano – not related to grandchildren – is too. Shiraz is just the warm climate version of…shiraz. Not the ‘Syrah’ style.

Red fruit at front (think raspberry) moving to darker fruits at the back. Flavour, acid and tannins balanced. The balance was the mastery – I have drunk many not as good, where you have to consciously concentrate to find the interesting traits, at a higher price.

Not a big aging wine but, like so many Greek heroes, born fully formed.

And all for $30!

If you find it then buy it. If you find it but an old woman has grabbed the last bottle before you, slam her to the ground and take it. God will understand.

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 6:34 pm

struth says:
November 10, 2022 at 6:24 pm

Johanna calls out the people who called out the US electoral corruption and then tells us all how corrupt their electoral process is, in a grand example of an own goal.

You are as thick as two short planks.

My point is that US elections have always been corrupt, and that this has not resulted in the popular uprising that you and others fantasise about under the bedsheets.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 10, 2022 6:35 pm

Directors’ ID-
all in all it’s just another brick in the wall.
I’m going to have to ration how much time I spend on frustrating it, but I will at least sidestep it being linked to my drivers license, gun license, and passport in any way. Electronic make-believe money accounts, meh what are you going to do.
The questions they ask over the phone are auto-generated, hence sounds like some get questions from all over the ATO spectrum. Like I said to the subcontinental, well it sounds like you know the right answer you’re listening out for, how about you tell me and I’ll double-check?
I mean ffs, I’m volunteering for the stoopid fifteen digit number, how about you just print one out and post it to the one and only address I’ve ever had? Sheesh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 6:39 pm

And to root out and fire the ‘peace generals’ (Morrison, Campbell, I’m looking at you. Sirs)

Don’t have a reference, but I did read one history of the United States military, in the Pacific War, that said the first year was spent weeding out the peacetime leadership.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 6:40 pm

You saw this also in PA where Oz did better than Trump in Philly but worse in all other parts of the state.

What, he got three votes in Philly vs Trump’s one? 🙂

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 6:41 pm

Can you believe that with all that we have seen …..especially the last two years….looking at the 2020 stolen election and history generally. ..that people are still analyzing the election as if it was legit?

Here’s what voting machines achieved.

Just enough Republican winning so dumb gullible c…ts on our side don’t think to question electoral integrity.
No one from Trumps team……the people who make the left shit themselves won.
De Santos was too hard and too obvious to budge.

Whaddaya think happened?

The very worst outcome happened.

The right had their tummies stroked just enough to not cause trouble while the program to roger them continues.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 10, 2022 6:42 pm

ML any hints? Any chain store distribution? Cmon help me out here, it’s the Cat sortee v the cashed-up schoolies soon

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 6:42 pm

The First Nations Ambassador budget would spend $1.3 million initially on a taskforce in the department, remuneration for the ambassador, international and domestic engagement as well as meeting facilitatio

Lidia Thorpe for First Nations Ambassador…….

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 6:43 pm

I fantasize about you Johanna.
But then you speak and ruin it all.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 6:52 pm

At the risk of awakening Sun Tsu

The villager on his river bend in the river sees the rocks around which the water flows. The king sees the water that flows past obstacles from the source to the sea.

REPORT THIS AD

– Sun Tzu

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 6:54 pm

Didn’t Tony Abbot appoint Natasha the despoiler as an Ambassador for Women or something?

Has anyone ever asked what she has achieved, in concrete terms? How much it has cost?

Now we have another one, who apparently has something to do with indigenes and foreign policy. What a joke, what a waste of money.

Someone a couple of days ago asked why it is called ‘Senate Estimates.’ The ostensible purpose is to review current and revised estimates for the Budget. This includes what the money is being spent on.

It is one of the few venues in Parliament where meaningful questions can be asked and answered.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 6:55 pm

You know Struphid, you’re only saying what you saying because you only have experience driving a bread delivery van and zero input in higher up decisions… for obvious reasons.

When an organization does much worse than expectations the guy at the top gets his head lopped off. Call it unfair, call it what you want but that’s how this crazy old world works which know nothing about.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 6:56 pm

I got mine from a local bottle-o. Farkin’ Grog Cellars, ya Crunts.

Fire off an email to the vineyards and ask for who is selling. They seem new (and I believe enthusiastic) so they would be keen for you to find somewhere.

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 6:56 pm

struth says:
November 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm

I fantasize about you Johanna.
But then you speak and ruin it all.

Eeeuw! 🙂

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 10, 2022 6:57 pm

Trump did great things but his job is now done and he needs to ride off into the sunset.

Except for the irritating issue that De Santis may want to serve a full second term in Florida.
After those two men, it’s daylight to the next contender.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:01 pm

After those two men, it’s daylight to the next contender.

Are you kidding?

Youngkin, Greg Abbott, Kemp, the sheila from one of the Dakotas and really decent looking too, Senator Cotton and there’s a few more. The GOP bench is potentially full of decent candidates with a strong ideological bent.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 7:02 pm

Funny thing is they are in Tumbarumba, but doing warm climate wines.

The Pinot Grigio (Italian style of the French Pinot Gris) is named after the daughter, Emily Jane.

A certain family-level involvement.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 7:03 pm

I fantasize about you Johanna.

Called it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 7:04 pm

Here’s what voting machines achieved.

Second semi final in the World Cup. The call centre blokes versus soap-dodgers, who are minus a bit of firepower in Mark Wood.

The sledging should be epic.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 10, 2022 7:05 pm

Youngkin, Greg Abbott, Kemp, the sheila from one of the Dakotas and really decent looking too, Senator Cotton and there’s a few more

Ha.
So much brand awareness in that group that you can’t even remember one of their names.
I’m sure there is nothing but a struck match between Trump/de Santis and “the sheila”.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:06 pm

That’s South Dakota Gov, Kristi Noem.

Some people are saying DeSantis copied her repose to Covid keeping the state open and very few regs.

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 7:07 pm

I am hungry to get a bet on.

Who wants some action?

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 7:10 pm

TheirABC, objective and factual as usual:

Lockyer Valley Regional Council (LVRC) is the latest organisation to add mattresses to an ambitious recycling trial aimed at recovering precious space in landfill sites across south-east Queensland.

‘precious space in landfill sites’ – precious, FFS?

What is wrong with these people? Can they not comprehend a map? There is enough space for landfill for the whole planet for more than a thousand years here.

It is infuriating that so called ‘conservative’ senators don’t bail them up in Estimates for their unashamed bias.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:11 pm

Ha.
So much brand awareness in that group that you can’t even remember one of their names.
I’m sure there is nothing but a struck match between Trump/de Santis and “the sheila”.

What brand awareness did Bill Clinton have before his time? How about the Kenyan? Like or lump it they are considered two successful presidents on the left having won two terms. You “develop brand awareness” as you move through the primaries and get noticed. I forgot Kristi’s name, that’s all, so stop making hay out of it.

As for”brand awareness”, Bloomberg was well known – more so than Trump- spent a billion dollars of his own money and the only vote he received in the primaries was from freaking Guam. Stop it with your brand awareness shtick.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:12 pm

response..

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 10, 2022 7:13 pm

Let’s move along.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 10, 2022 7:13 pm

To the page turn …

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 7:13 pm

UK Parliament vaccine debate, Dr. John Campbell

Dr John really has come along way on his Red Pill journey.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:14 pm

Cronkite is a female looks connoisseur or at least pretends he is.

Cronkite, who’s the better looking out of Kari and Kristi? Also, who would you like to see as prez.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 10, 2022 7:14 pm

Because people won’t bother going back …

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 7:16 pm

There are a lot of people not worth reading on the US mid-terms. Relax struth, you are still at the top.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 7:17 pm

As I read that, I had a thought bubble of an older, S/SGT adding the Sir on the end before I got to it.

On one of my MEAO gigs, I worked on the HQ staff which meant I had a 2 star as my boss, and interacted with him daily. I liked his style, without directly saying so, he made it VERY clear that you had better be on the top of your game and you better make sure you made him aware of ANYTHING relevant that came across your desk.

After a few weeks, we had a video conference with the Joint Ops Room in Canberra. It was quite a shock to hear him refer to *his* boss (a 3 star) as ‘Sir’.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:17 pm

Amazing, also, how the RNCC gets it biggest win in a generation with Dobbs and decided to go all quiet about it. They even spent money on a poll which showed a popular defensible position post-Dobbs, think legal until fetal heartbeat or first trimester, but decided to not have the fight while the Dems maligned them unopposed.

There is no “popular defensible position”. If the GOP led with a pro-life strategy, they would lose 40 states.

Anchor What
Anchor What
November 10, 2022 7:18 pm

It’s an aim of the Democrats to “Peel Trump away from the Republican party”.
Which would be because they fear him.
I don’t think our commentators (like Chris Kenny and others) should be assisting the Democrats in this aim. But they are. They’ve swallowed the agitprop about Trump being a problem. They’ve conveniently memory-holed all the things he got right.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:19 pm

U.S. House
Democrats
192(-7)
Republicans
210(+7)

Real Clear. 8 more seats to win a majority. 33 seats to go.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:22 pm

Anchor

Chris Kenny has as much influence on the US political game as we do talking about it here. It’s zero.

Trump is going to be 78 in 24 and he’s simply too old. I don’t know if people realize this or can’t bare thinking about it. Seventy freaking eight is too old to be prez.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 10, 2022 7:23 pm

The First Nations Ambassador budget would spend $1.3 million initially

Did they miss out the bit “ramping up to x% of GDP after the in-voice to Australia arrives”?

Thinking about the “equal funding for both sides” of the yes/ no for the invoice.
Dreyfuss, a very clever and evil lawyer, will undoubtedly push for neither side being funded.
Which will leave the no vote competing against 30+ years of BC/SBS/ATSIC/ALS/various NGOs such as Amnesty/multiple land councils etc. Plus whatever they can skim of the 30 Billion plus spend on Abo issues every year.

Total direct expenditure on services for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians in 2012-13 was estimated to be $30.3 billion, accounting for 6.1% of total direct general government expenditure.

Its going to be as subtle as a brick and as nobbled a race as you can imagine.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 7:25 pm

Knuckle Dragger:
Previous quote:

In fact, I often get shut down before I’ve even said anything. ‘What do I think of statues being pulled down?’ one of them might ask me.
‘Well what I think is…’ and then before I’ve expressed any view at all, whichever child has asked the question starts lecturing me on the horrors of colonialism.

A perfect example. Abject and undeniable parental failure, compounded by whining to the media about it.
Stop running your household as a democracy.

Exactly.

“Your right to lecture your parents is proportional to your economic contribution to the family fortunes. Now shut up and listen.”

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:27 pm

Here’s a real interesting factoid:

Uvalde County, where the state’s deadliest mass school shooting happened five months ago and sparked massive calls for gun reform, voted 63-38 for Gov. Abbott over Beto…

It’s Texas. That county would be as hard-up Republican as the Castro district is Demon in San Fran. You couldn’t get San Franciscans to vote GOP even if multiple homeless barged into your home and also lived in your roof and took a shit everywhere.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:31 pm

It’s an aim of the Democrats to “Peel Trump away from the Republican party”.
Which would be because they fear him.

Yeah I dunno, I am sanguine about that one.

On the one hand, Trump is a fascist and it would be good to see the back of him. On the other hand, the voters have sussed him out and they don’t like his selfishness. A politician is supposed to fight for them, not himself. He is an electoral plus for the Democrats at the moment. Every one of the Trump picks that the DNC “supported” with deliberately provocative ads during the primaries lost yesterday. Every man jack of them. It may be a blaggard’s way of doing it, but by hell it worked.

The left’s opinion on it doesn’t matter, though. Trump is a known quantity, he is who he is, and he is going to take the fight up to DeSantis. It has already started: the namecalling, the insults and the dark oblique references to skeletons in the closet. We have seen DeSantis troll the left, but how is he when he faces up to a bully from his own tribe who is going to steal his lunch money? I think there’s more than a bit of Pence in DeSantis.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 7:36 pm

On the one hand, Trump is a fascist and it would be good to see the back of him.

Using Mussolini’s own definitions of fascism (fascism is best described as a marriage between the corporation and the state), what do you think of the marriage between government and pfizer this last couple of years, or any of the other ‘public private partnerships’ which have blossomed in recent years?

In retrospect, they weren’t even hiding it.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:37 pm

On the one hand, Trump is a fascist

Oh, how so?

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Ducky, if you are defining PPPs as fascism then you are condemning every right-wing Western government in the past few decades as fascist.

You’re a bit of a pillock.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:39 pm

Oh, how so?

Have you heard he has taken during recent speeches to promising prison rape for journalists whose work he disagrees with?

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 7:40 pm

Monty would still be underqualified compared to John Fetterman.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:41 pm

Have you heard he has taken during recent speeches to promising prison rape for journalists whose work he disagrees with?

Evidence . Go!

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 7:41 pm

Johnny Rottensays:
November 10, 2022 at 4:46 pm
Another Brick in the Wall

He then asked the reporter what he thought America would do if China began to line up on the US border. We all know the answer to that question. Imagine if China placed nuclear weapons in or near Canada and Mexico? The nuclear apocalypse would have already happened.

Now change US Border with Cuba.

custard
custard
November 10, 2022 7:41 pm

So Nancy is out of a job and the GOP are still a good chance of taking the senate.

Not a bad result.

Trump endorsed candidates 219-16 win/loss ratio

Lake certain to take AZ which will finally fix their corrupt election system

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 7:43 pm

WSJ editorial:

Trump Is the Republican Party’s Biggest Loser
He has now flopped in 2018, 2020, 2021 and 2022.
By The Editorial Board
Nov. 9, 2022 6:52 pm ET

What will Democrats do when Donald Trump isn’t around to lose elections? We have to wonder because on Tuesday Democrats succeeded again in making the former President a central campaign issue, and Mr. Trump helped them do it.

Trumpy Republican candidates failed at the ballot box in states that were clearly winnable. This can’t be what Mr. Trump was envisioning ahead of his “very big announcement” next week. Yet maybe the defeats are what the party needs to hear before 2024.

Looking at the Senate map, the message could not be clearer. In New Hampshire, the Trump-endorsed Republican Don Bolduc lost to Sen. Maggie Hassan, 53% to 45%, as of the latest data. At the same time voters re-elected Republican Gov. Chris Sununu by 16 points.

“Don Bolduc was a very nice guy, but he lost tonight when he disavowed, after his big primary win, his longstanding stance on Election Fraud,” Mr. Trump said. “Had he stayed strong and true, he would have won, easily.” We doubt New Hampshire voters simply wanted Mr. Bolduc to stay kooky.

In Arizona the Trump-endorsed Republican Blake Masters trails Sen. Mark Kelly, 51% to 47%. This is a state successful Gov. Doug Ducey won by 14 points in 2018. Mr. Ducey could have won the Senate seat, but Mr. Trump pledged to go to war with him because Mr. Ducey refused to entertain 2020 fraud theories.

In Pennsylvania, the Trump-endorsed Republican Mehmet Oz lost to John Fetterman, 51% to 47%. This is a tough state for the GOP. But Mr. Fetterman was a weak candidate: He’s a lefty with a record of wanting Medicare for All and a ban on fracking, and he’s recovering from a stroke. David McCormick would have been a better Republican nominee, but he wouldn’t say the 2020 election was stolen, so Mr. Trump endorsed Mr. Oz.

In Georgia, the Trump-endorsed Republican Herschel Walker trails Sen. Raphael Warnock, 49.4% to 48.5%. This is going to a December runoff, which Mr. Walker could win. But Gov. Brian Kemp won re-election by eight points. Mr. Walker’s flaws as a candidate were obvious, but Mr. Trump helped clear the primary field and other candidates opted out.

In Ohio the Trump-endorsed Republican J.D. Vance won a solid victory over Rep. Tim Ryan, 53% to 47%, while Republican Gov. Mike DeWine won by 26 points. Mr. Vance was a poor fundraiser. As of Oct. 19 he’d pulled in $12 million to Mr. Ryan’s $47 million. What saved him was $32 million from the Senate Leadership Fund (SLF), a Super Pac aligned with Mitch McConnell. Mr. Vance trailed in the polls until mid-October.

Doug Mastriano, Pennsylvania’s Trump-endorsed gubernatorial choice, lost by 14 points. Tim Michels in Wisconsin and Tudor Dixon in Michigan fumbled winnable gubernatorial races. Also in Michigan, Mr. Trump helped John Gibbs beat GOP Rep. Peter Meijer in the primary in the Grand Rapids seat because Mr. Meijer voted to impeach him. Mr. Gibbs lost by 13 points. Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler also voted to impeach Mr. Trump, who helped Joe Kent beat her in a primary. Mr. Kent is trailing in that Washington state district.

Mr. Trump could have stayed quiet in the final weeks of the campaign except to spend money to help his candidates. But he did little of the latter and instead staged rallies that played into Democratic hands. His rally in Latrobe last week might have hurt Mr. Oz with suburban voters who cost Mr. Trump the state in 2020.

Since his unlikely victory in 2016 against the widely disliked Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump has a perfect record of electoral defeat. The GOP was pounded in the 2018 midterms owing to his low approval rating. Mr. Trump himself lost in 2020. He then sabotaged Georgia’s 2021 runoffs by blaming party leaders for not somehow overturning his defeat. That gave Democrats control of the Senate, letting President Biden pump up inflation with a $1.9 trillion Covid bill, appoint a liberal Supreme Court Justice, and pass a $700 billion climate spending hash.

Now Mr. Trump has botched the 2022 elections, and it could hand Democrats the Senate for two more years. Mr. Trump had policy successes as President, including tax cuts and deregulation, but he has led Republicans into one political fiasco after another.

“We’re going to win so much,” Mr. Trump once said, “that you’re going to get sick and tired of winning.” Maybe by now Republicans are sick and tired of losing.

Mater
November 10, 2022 7:43 pm

On the one hand, Trump is a fascist and it would be good to see the back of him.

Ironic coming someone who advocates randomly bashing people based on disagreement with their beliefs. Someone who’s apparently sick of opposing views, and wants to shut them up.

What do you propose to do with your ‘opposition’ to shut them up, Monty?
Send them Madagascar?

Careful not to become the devil you supposedly despise.

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Monty has mastered the art of being able to suck his own cock.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 7:46 pm

On the one hand, Trump is a fascist and it would be good to see the back of him. On the other hand, the voters have sussed him out and they don’t like his selfishness. A politician is supposed to fight for them, not himself.

mutley ensures he only absorbs woke propaganda, which is course true beyond a doubt, unlike right wing propaganda which is all conspiracy theories

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 7:48 pm

TRUMP hasn’t ruined his brain with grog like you JC.
Nor does he smoke like you.
He’s much sharper than you and his age therefore is only relevant if we are talking lack of life experience.
I know Trump scares beta male CINOs but the CINOs are the problem. …not Trump.

Always scared of being called names by leftist excrement.
JC….let men handle it.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 7:53 pm

Ducky, if you are defining PPPs as fascism then you are condemning every right-wing Western government in the past few decades as fascist.

As Ben Shapiro said, when asked where it said ‘you have to be a boy to join the boyscouts’, ..’ it’s right there in the title’.

Same same with ‘public private partnerships’ … the title alone meets Mussolini’s definition.

Does that mean I am labelling ‘Right wing’ governments as fascist? Why yes, yes I am. The events of the last 2 years have clearly demonstrated that.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
November 10, 2022 7:54 pm

What really happened
And why did Don tell Ron to pull his head in?
And why has this story cropped up now? If “they” didn’t want Ron in place it would have appeared before the election. Who’s “they”? That’s the Question.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 7:55 pm

How would you know what a man is, Struphid? For two years , every single day, you’ve been harassing us about you abject fear of a needle, you girly man. Fuck off and go change Faulty’s diaper.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 10, 2022 7:59 pm

Rolling Stone? Haha.
$100 for things that never happened Alex.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 8:06 pm

Abject fear of a needle.

You’re embarrassing yourself very well.
I don’t need to say a word.

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 8:06 pm

Nice example of non State regulation here last night, which I slept through.

The proprietress of the motel tells me that she was told by Sledgehammer Guy (a regular, good bloke) that a bunch of guys were partying loudly in the early hours today.

An irate neighbouring tradie (SG) came out and told them that if they didn’t shut up he was going to his truck to get the sledgehammer.

Quiet was then the order of the night.

No police required.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 10, 2022 8:09 pm

“We’re going to win so much,” Mr. Trump once said, “that you’re going to get sick and tired of winning.” Maybe by now Republicans are sick and tired of losing.

They haven’t repudiated Trump yet, so they must want more losing.
Keep on wittering on about Abortion, 51% of the Electorate can’t get enough of that shit.
At some stage, you gotta start thinkin’:
Y’know, Trump was a Registered Democrat from 1966 to 2015, I wonder … ?

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 8:11 pm

Xi Jinping has expressed ‘ambition’ to become ‘the world’s global leader’
Former US Army Vice Chief of Staff General Jack Keane says Chinese President Xi Jinping has expressed his ambition to replace the United States as “the world’s global leader”.

He said the discussions to take place between US President Joe Biden and President Xi at the G20 summit will be “significant”.

“It would be a good thing for these two leaders to talk to each other,” General Keane told Sky News host Andrew Bolt.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 8:11 pm

Doc Beaugan:

JC disagrees with you:

JC
November 10, 2022 at 3:37 pm

At the end is the Bloody Hard way which involves choppers to the Great White breeding grounds.
If he’s not scaring himself to death with fabulist crap, he’s wishing death and destruction on a mass scale. All perfectly normal.

Obviously forgotten just how bad Chile had gotten under the communist insurgency and the steps that were taken to crush the Marxist revolution.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 8:14 pm

HBBear:

Hehe … am looking at a (McDonalds?) Eeyore I was given by some girl in accounts. Not sure why.

Eeyore is a donkey, right?
Were you wearing your full kit that day, O Trouserless one?
I am not drawing a picture for you, you pervert.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 8:15 pm

Maybe I do need to say a word seeing I’m at Dovers Denialists.

Who sees a failure regarding civic duty. .duty to their fellow man…and a person submitting to tyranny in order to be a member of a privileged class in an apartheid socialist hell hole…trivialise it down to having a jab?
A jab that’s raised the overall death rates by 20%.
Which is quite ironic….and very amusing.
Useless …..

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 8:15 pm

The problem with self help remedies is when a random 15yo gets hit with a metal pole. It has its limitations.

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 8:17 pm

Xi Jinping has expressed ‘ambition’ to become ‘the world’s global leader’

The Hunchback is on board.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 8:18 pm

Who sees a failure regarding civic duty. .duty to their fellow man…and a person submitting to tyranny in order to be a member of a privileged class in an apartheid socialist hell hole…trivialise it down to having a jab?

How do you feel about your son who had a jab (as you told us)? On speaking terms?

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 8:19 pm

Where’s choo choo?
Tick tick tick…….

Who’s next?

Back to the cricket.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 10, 2022 8:20 pm

They even spent money on a poll which showed a popular defensible position post-Dobbs, think legal until fetal heartbeat or first trimester, but decided to not have the fight while the Dems maligned them unopposed.
Sooner or later, the Republican Party [and the Liberal Party] must realise that criminalising Sex isn’t an Election winner.
But they’re not there yet.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 8:21 pm

No comment says JC.
Attempts to deflect.
Sad.

Cassie of Sydney
November 10, 2022 8:21 pm

“On the one hand, Trump is a fascist and it would be good to see the back of him.”

On the other hand, you’re a fascist and it would be good to see the back of you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 8:21 pm

submitting to tyranny
privileged class
apartheid socialist
death rates

Kohli out for 50. India 4/136 with two overs to go.

struth
struth
November 10, 2022 8:24 pm

Fascists and socialists were allies in ww2.
They are exactly the same thing.
Undemocratic centralized power via dictatorship.

Razey
Razey
November 10, 2022 8:25 pm

struthsays:
November 10, 2022 at 8:19 pm
Where’s choo choo?

Fuckhead probably got taken out by the ‘glowies’ it kept raving on about. What a retard.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 8:27 pm

Eeyore I was given by some girl in accounts. Not sure why

Bloke goes into a bar and orders a beer.

Another guy at the bar calls out “Hey. Donkey. Give us another beer.”

The visibly annoyed bartender serves him another beer.

And it goes on.

“Hey Donkey, how about changing the channel to the footy.”

“Hey Donkey, another beer!”

Finally the first guy in subdued voice asks the bartender “why do you let him call you donkey?”

“Oh, eeyore, eeyore, eeyore-ways calls me that.”

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 8:29 pm

George Christensen’s interview with Alex Jones

Birth rates DOWN in Australia! The jab is causing miscarriages.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 8:29 pm

Sooner or later, the Republican Party [and the Liberal Party] must realise that criminalising Sex isn’t an Election winner.
But they’re not there yet.

Mr Ed, you’ve self described as a slut addict. The Libs haven’t thrown you in jail and tossed the key.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 8:29 pm
JC
JC
November 10, 2022 8:32 pm

struth says:
November 10, 2022 at 8:24 pm

Fascists and socialists were allies in ww2.

Which WW2 was that, struphid?

johanna
johanna
November 10, 2022 8:33 pm

We are not talking ‘it could have happened to anyone’ here:

The incident occurred on a Link Airways SAAB 340 turboprop passenger aircraft bound for Sydney, scheduled to leave Canberra Airport about 8am.

Shortly after take-off, a ratchet strap attached to a propeller punctured the side of the plane, with one of its ends appearing inside the cabin.

Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) Chief Commissioner Angus Mitchell said the strap had been used to secure the propeller overnight and had not been removed.

How does that happen?

Roger
Roger
November 10, 2022 8:35 pm

Xi Jinping has expressed ‘ambition’ to become ‘the world’s global leader’

Typical hubris, after which comes nemesis.

He should be focused on the basket case that is China.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 8:43 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
November 10, 2022 8:46 pm

Opposing Abortion isn’t what made America great.
Biden just won a victory by staying focused on one thing:
The Republican threat to recriminalise abortion.
The Presidents on Mount Rushmore, did any of them oppose abortion?
No.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 8:47 pm

This is how D countered the R+4 generic ballot. Hand it to D, they know how to work the machine.

Yep, they encourage the unmotivated voter to vote. I have to say, it’s an incredible machine. The demonrat party is amazingly impressive in this regard.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 8:47 pm

Mother load:

The villager on his river bend in the river sees the rocks around which the water flows. The king sees the water that flows past obstacles from the source to the sea.

– Sun Tzu
That was one of the reasons I gave him an A-.
He really got the shits when I scribbled in red across his paper “Enough of the inscrutable Chinese verbosity, Tzu, old mate. You should have asked where the bloody bridging engineers were – they’ve known this river has been here forever.”

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
November 10, 2022 8:56 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 8:57 pm

Typical hubris, after which comes nemesis.

He does seem to be getting ahead of himself. Senses time running out or opportunity?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 9:00 pm

The demonrat party is amazingly impressive in this regard.

The Liars get the useful idiots on the phones here too. Still a few unionists still stuck in the 70s too.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 10, 2022 9:04 pm

The term “Snout Counter” from a Scifi book randomly popped into my head, damned if I can remember the book…
Winston – Harry Turtledove, World War series. The lizard aliens from Alpha Centauri arrive in the middle of WW2.

Gabor
Gabor
November 10, 2022 9:05 pm

johanna says:
November 10, 2022 at 8:33 pm

How does that happen?

Total lack of professionalism of the flight crew.
Unforgivable, no matter what the circumstances, no excuse.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 10, 2022 9:06 pm

Shortly after take-off, a ratchet strap attached to a propeller punctured the side of the plane, with one of its ends appearing inside the cabin.

That’s one reason I always prefer to be seated away from the arc of the propellor or, in the case of a jet, the fan-disc.

The safest place in a large passenger aircraft in a crash is probably over the wing box, as it tends to stay intact, and there are multiple exits there. As a bonus, the fuselage often breaks at the leading or trailing edge, affording ample opportunity for rapid exit.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 10, 2022 9:08 pm

How does that happen?

Someone forgets to do the walk around.

custard
custard
November 10, 2022 9:09 pm

4961

Endless lies.
Endless wars.
Endless inflation.
Endless ‘printing’.
Endless oppression.
Endless subjugation.
Endless surveillance.
Who will put an end to the endless?
Taking control.
Q

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 9:18 pm

JCsays:

November 10, 2022 at 7:55 pm
How would you know what a man is, Struphid? For two years , every single day, you’ve been harassing us about you abject fear of a needle, you girly man. Fuck off and go change Faulty’s diaper

That’s rich coming from you, JC – the author of a two week whinge about an ingrown toenail.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 10, 2022 9:19 pm

If the bloody racket they make isn’t reason enough to permanently ban the SAAB turboprop…

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 9:19 pm

I wonder if Q hunches over his laptop by candlelight like most seers?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 9:21 pm

I wonder if Q hunches over his laptop by candlelight like most seers?

Endlessly.

custard
custard
November 10, 2022 9:23 pm

HB

If you disagree with anything in a Q post, just say so

If you can’t refute what the post says, just say so

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 9:23 pm

custard please, snap out of it

custard
custard
November 10, 2022 9:25 pm

Out of what?

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 9:25 pm

Turtlehead..

How’s the toothache? Sad we didn’t hear more about it. Everyone was worried for you.

cohenite
November 10, 2022 9:27 pm

Cronkite, who’s the better looking out of Kari and Kristi? Also, who would you like to see as prez.

Tulsi.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 9:27 pm

Struth:

No comment says JC.
Attempts to deflect.
Sad.

I’ve a feeling his attempts to escalate DB’s requests to consider donations to a pissing contest may have copped an email about the people who he named as bludgers as being quite incorrect.
Have you checked your email, JC?

Dot
Dot
November 10, 2022 9:29 pm

struth says:
November 10, 2022 at 8:19 pm
Where’s choo choo?
Tick tick tick…….

Who’s next?

Back to the cricket

Wanna bet?

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 9:31 pm

Turtlehead’s had testosterone shots.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 9:32 pm

Poms 0/95 after 9 overs.

Pasting it.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 9:35 pm

Tulsi

meh

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 9:38 pm

4961

Endless lies.
Endless wars.
Endless inflation.
Endless ‘printing’.
Endless oppression.
Endless subjugation.
Endless surveillance.
Who will put an end to the endless?
Taking control.
Q

You can’t refute this. There’s nothing to refute, because it’s shit with a nonsensical question at the end that could mean anything.

I know you’re big on this custard and that’s great, but Santa is not real.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 9:41 pm
JC
JC
November 10, 2022 9:43 pm

Custard

Get in contact with Turtlehead to start up an Australian chapter of Q. Call it Ozzi Q. He’s really big on delusional, fabulist stuff and you two would get on like a house on fire.

Zipster
Zipster
November 10, 2022 9:44 pm

custard, Q posts, it’s not that sort of blog.

if we want astrology, we’ll pick up women’s weekly

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 10, 2022 9:44 pm

Good article at Spiked, A Tale of Two Americas.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 9:45 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 9:46 pm

Poms 0/129 after 12, chasing 169.

Brutal.

There’ll be naan bread being thrown into bins all over the country about now.

Indolent
Indolent
November 10, 2022 9:46 pm
custard
custard
November 10, 2022 9:48 pm

If you can’t see the relevance of Q posts it’s your problem Cat’s

They are relevant

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 10, 2022 9:49 pm

The Indian crikkiters have, I hear, outstanding home security – which is good because the punters there can and have burned the houses of failed teams to the ground.

0/140.

MatrixTransform
November 10, 2022 9:49 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
November 10, 2022 9:49 pm

One interesting point in the Spiked article is the high proportion of singles in the DemonRat demographic. Those who don’t breed are not replaced, the future belongs to those who turn up.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Winston Smith says: November 10, 2022 at 9:27 pm
I’ve a feeling his attempts to escalate DB’s requests to consider donations to a pissing contest may have copped an email about the people who he named as bludgers as being quite incorrect.

He folded like a cheap suit when challenged to an ultimate pissing contest.
A bet for a significant sum that something he was blowharding about for days as being true, really was true.
Turned out neither he nor his chequebook were up to it.

When it comes to pissing contests, he’s in the same league as fleas, not elephants.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 9:54 pm

I wonder if Q hunches over his laptop by candlelight like most seers?

Most seers are tripping balls. Nostradamus certainly was, he loved a bucket bong.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The Indian crikkiters have, I hear, outstanding home security – which is good because the punters there can and have burned the houses of failed teams to the ground.

In the spirit of multiculturalism we should adopt that particular custom.

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 10:00 pm

Eyrie:

The term “Snout Counter” from a Scifi book randomly popped into my head, damned if I can remember the book…

Winston – Harry Turtledove, World War series. The lizard aliens from Alpha Centauri arrive in the middle of WW2.

Those Harry Turtledove “World War’ series were as entertaining as hell. Unfortunately he really stuffed around with the titles and continuation and never really got them back in sequence or even corrected the timelines. Kindle also charged like wounded buffaloes for individual books and so I wasn’t able to collect them.

MatrixTransform
November 10, 2022 10:00 pm

Most seers are tripping balls.

v funny … mUnty having a rare moment of self-reflection

Winston Smith
November 10, 2022 10:09 pm

JCsays:
November 10, 2022 at 9:43 pm
Custard

Get in contact with Turtlehead to start up an Australian chapter of Q. Call it Ozzi Q. He’s really big on delusional, fabulist stuff and you two would get on like a house on fire.

We were having a great day here, just shooting the shit, having a good time, lot’s of bonhomie & good cheer, and now you’ve dropped in with a shitbomb just because you like being a prick.
How old are you again?
Anyway, it’s past my bedtime so I’m off.
And check your email.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Kari Lake’s election result could be known as early as January 2023. Electoral staff will work if they have to, all through Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc, to finish the count as soon as possible. (hat tip, Mr. Tucker Carlson – whatever his source is)

Arizona is comparable to Victoria.
Victoria: 90,000 sq miles & Six & a half million people.
Arizona: 110,000 sq miles & Seven million people (a bit over that actually)

Yet it will take a month or more, while Florida 65,000 sq miles & 22 million people, had the answer the same night.

Yeah, no problems with Arizona’s voting system, nah, none.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 10, 2022 10:13 pm

Endless lies.

Endless wars.
Endless inflation.
Endless ‘printing’.
Endless oppression.
Endless subjugation.
Endless surveillance.
Who will put an end to the endless?
Taking control.

Quite a poser, is endless.

When we imagine something endless we don’t actually imagine something numbering infinity.

Imagine an ‘infinite number of telephone poles’. You don’t imagine infinity. How could you mentally distinguish an image of, say, a billion from an infinite number.

No, you imagine a finite number (perhaps a number of poles fading into the distance along a road) but with ‘the feeling’ that the procession will go forever.

Infinity is not a matter of the universe being infinite, but of the harrowing embarrassed human awareness that it is not.

Think about it.

– Papa Tzu (ignore my Sun. He is a right twat.)

custard
custard
November 10, 2022 10:21 pm

I’ve checked my email, nothing!

Q posts are relevant

It’s not a big deal

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 10:33 pm

Shanelle Dawson honours her murdered mother Lynette HEDLEY THOMAS

33 minutes ago November 10, 2022

“Why didn’t you divorce her? Let those who loved and needed her keep her? (Was it) because of money? For God’s sake.”

Shanelle Dawson honoured her mother Lyn on Thursday in the most poignant, moving and courageous way.

With equal parts anger and sorrow, she stared down her convicted murderer father, Chris Dawson, in a Sydney courtroom.

Shanelle explained to her father and to Justice Ian Harrison how the rippling ongoing impacts of the cold-blooded killing of a doting mother have profound and ongoing impacts, four decades later.

Shanelle was aged 4 in January 1982. She was just weeks from starting preschool when her mother disappeared from her life, her home, her family and friends, never to be heard from again.

Lynette Joy Dawson was last seen by anyone on the night of Friday, January 8, 1982. She was murdered soon afterwards. Perhaps within minutes, perhaps a few hours, of an unusual telephone conversation with her mother Helena.

Their chat on that fateful Friday evening was unusual for two reasons.

Lyn told her mother that her marriage was not doomed after all – Lyn was confident that the counselling she and Chris went to that same day had somehow changed everything.

She must have been persuaded by her teacher husband that his lustful obsession with his former student, the family’s teenage babysitter, had finally fizzled out.

The other unusual thing is that Lyn, who was not a drinker, sounded “half sozzled” to her mother Helena.

Lyn must have died a short time later. And most likely in the family home at Gilwinga Drive, Bayview, as the noisy cicadas laid down summer’s soundtrack.

Shanelle has pictured the murder scene from that night too many times. It has haunted her in her waking hours and in her sleep. Unlike her younger sister, Shanelle is sure of her father’s guilt.

She has been to clairvoyants and spiritualists for answers. She has traipsed lonely ground looking for her mother’s remains.

As she bravely told the
court through her tears, her life has been marked by deep emotional wounds and damage for many years.

The lies her father told her – “your mother went away and doesn’t love you enough to return” – were crippling.

One of Chris Dawson’s most cruel acts after murdering his wife Lyn was his campaign to persuade her parents, her siblings and her two little girls that she was alive.

Shanelle’s capacity to trust, to believe in people, irrevocably damaged her relationships with friends, partners and family.

She tried to shield her own adorable little girl from the truth of her family’s dark past.

Until the youngster’s friend blurted it out one day – “Your grandmother was murdered by your grandfather.”

“She had many questions and anger, confusion and grief. She kept asking me, ‘why did he do that?’,’’ Shanelle told the court.

“The same question that’s tortured me over and over now for many years.”

Shanelle implored her father to answer her questions.

Tell her where her mother’s remains are.

Admit to her his guilt.

But nobody expects that Christopher Michael Dawson ever will.

He did such a good job of convincing many others for years that Lyn had simply walked away from it all, he’s convinced himself of this lie, too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 10:42 pm

struthsays:

November 10, 2022 at 8:06 pm

Abject fear of a needle.

You’re embarrassing yourself very well.
I don’t need to say a word.

OK then.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 10, 2022 10:49 pm

I know you’re big on this custard and that’s great, but Santa is not real.

Santa is not fucking what?!?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 10, 2022 11:00 pm

Life ban for policewoman who filmed sexual act on duty
David Woode, Crime Correspondent
Thursday November 10 2022, 12.01am, The Times

NORTH NEWS AND PICTURES

A policewoman who filmed herself masturbating in a station lavatory while on duty has been banned from policing for life.

PC Clare Ogden was dressed in her police uniform when she made a seven-second video at the end of her shift at Redcar police station. She then sent it to her partner.

Ogden, 40, also used her mobile phone to record highly classified information from the police computer and shared it with a colleague because “she found it amusing”, a misconduct panel was told.

Wonder if she’ll be applying to join West Australian coppers?

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 10, 2022 11:09 pm

Poms win by 10 wickets.
Pedro is happy.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 10, 2022 11:17 pm

A policewoman who filmed herself masturbating in a station lavatory while on duty has been banned from policing for life.
That’ll have all the woman-chokers and the train-station-sling-tackle-slammers and the granny-macers all purged from the forces too then eh? After all, there’s widely distributed video of their violent assaults on peaceful citizens, taken by third parties, all over the interwebs.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 11:28 pm

Murdoch is going all in for DeSanctimonious. It’s a sight to behold. WSJ, Fox, NY Post, it’s a full court press.

It would be hilarious if the base stuck to Trump.

m0nty
m0nty
November 10, 2022 11:31 pm

It was noticeable that Carlson avoided Trump criticism by saying it was too early to tell if he was to blame. He has the same thought I do, I reckon: that Trump is going to fight, and he still leads the party in both an institutional and emotional sense.

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 11:44 pm

We were having a great day here, just shooting the shit, having a good time, lot’s of bonhomie & good cheer, and now you’ve dropped in with a shitbomb just because you like being a prick.

I did? The way I see it is that you again began to talk about me or two me.

How old are you again?

Old enough to be a male nurse.

And check your email.

Oh lord, you ended up obtaining my email? How?
Have you emailed the owner with a complaint again?

JC
JC
November 10, 2022 11:57 pm

to.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 10, 2022 11:58 pm

I’m here for the personality test.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:00 am

Okay , let’s go.

How many vaxes have you had?

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:01 am

2. What’s your star sign?

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:02 am

3. Rate your relationship with your parents out of 5 with 5 being tops.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 11, 2022 12:03 am

How’s the collection of scars Bear. Hope you’re bearing up. Ha!.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:03 am

4. Was dad a naval officer?

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:04 am

Answer those 4 questions and we’ll then give you another batch.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 11, 2022 12:05 am

I’d rate my relationship with my parents 0. They’ve been dead for years and when alive -5.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 11, 2022 12:07 am

Santa what? Next you’ll be saying Roger isn’t playing James Bond anymore.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:08 am

Let’s fuck our most important businesses asap.

Labor risks new row with miners over coal, gas tax

Federal cabinet is set to consider a new tax on gas and thermal coal aimed at cutting energy prices when Anthony Albanese returns from a nine-day overseas trip.

Taxes will cut energy prices. It’s part of economics 101.

The Albanian is always overseas too.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:14 am

Beto O’Rourke has lost three races in four years. Is his political career over?

He has been the Texas Democratic Party’s great hope. But after failed runs for senator, president and governor, observers wonder if he has a political future.

No, he doesn’t and he needs to leave everyone alone now.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 11, 2022 12:16 am

McDonald-Tipungwuti a “cult hero”?
Well, he did have this belter written about him, so maybe the meeja hyperbowl is right this time.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 11, 2022 12:17 am

Good documentary on Netflix. FIFA Uncovered about World Cup bid corruption. Very interesting.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:21 am

Nothing at all troubling about the US electoral system. Cheating? How could anyone ever suggst such a thing.

Joel Fischer ??
@realJoelFischer
·
1m
Over 500,000 of Kathy Hochuls votes were mail in ballots pre-filled, all you had to do is sign.

Do you understand what they do now?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 11, 2022 12:24 am

How’s the collection of scars Bear. Hope you’re bearing up. Ha!.

Haven’t found any new ones. I guess that’s a win.

JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:30 am
JC
JC
November 11, 2022 12:39 am

US CPI data comes in cooler than expected.

US CPI data shows inflation increased less than expected in October. Month-over-month was 0.4% (expected to be 0.6%), while annual CPI was 7.7% (instead of the expected 7.9%.

.4% is okay considering.

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vr
November 11, 2022 1:49 am

Christopher Caldwell’s take on the vote counting fiasco of this week.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 11, 2022 3:09 am

Email today from the IPA:

The US midterm elections held yesterday were hit-and-miss for the Republican Party but a clear winner emerged in the form of Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. Ron DeSantis was re-elected as the Governor of Florida with an unheard-of margin of 20 points.

This is important because no one on the right has been more effective at fighting ‘woke ideology’ in our institutions than Governor DeSantis – be it in schools, universities, bureaucracy or big corporations.

The little-known governor came into the limelight during COVID when he fought lockdown advocates to keep schools in Florida open. He legislated a historic bill to protect parental rights in education and which prohibited gender ideology being taught to young children from kindergarten up to Year 3. When the woke corporation Disney tried to pressure him into abandoning the legislation, he confronted the company head on by stripping Disney of a decades-old tax district.

And as IPA Executive Director Scott Hargreaves mentioned in his Friday email to you last week, Governor DeSantis has not only declared 7 November ‘Victims of Communism Day’, but has also made it mandatory that it be marked in the state’s education system.

Governor DeSantis understands that woke ideology has become so pervasive in our institutions that it cannot be fought merely through rhetoric or reason. It requires a frank and fearless confrontation. Rooting the ideology out will require that we simultaneously fight it at institutional, legislative and ideological levels – and it will make some people uncomfortable.

The mainstream media (both in Florida and across the US) has been a harsh critic of Governor DeSantis, but the people of Florida – who live the outcomes of his policies – have made their choice clear. What makes his win still more remarkable is that nearly a quarter of the state’s population is Hispanic and another 15 per cent is African American. He brought the state’s diverse population together on a platform of values.

There are lessons in Governor DeSantis’ victory for Opposition leader Peter Dutton who made a promising start in our homegrown culture war. To further confront radical gender ideology and critical race theory in school curriculum, he should call it out forthrightly and fearlessly.

Governor DeSantis said in his victory speech:

We have embraced freedom. We have maintained law and order. We have protected the rights of parents. We have respected our taxpayers, and we reject woke ideology. We fight the woke in the legislature. We fight the woke in the schools. We fight the woke in the corporations. We will never, ever surrender to the woke mob. Florida is where woke goes to die.

National debt a big problem
This week, Secretary to the Treasury Steven Kennedy warned of the long-term health of the Australian economy stating we need ‘a combination of spending restraint and increases in taxes to reduce deficits and lower debt’.

Did he just say ‘reduce deficits and lower debt’? I wonder if Steven Kennedy is belatedly reading IPA research from March 2021 and August 2022, which predicted precisely this scenario.

IPA research report Selling Australia’s Future: Why government debt matters and how to return to surplus published in February 2021 warned that interest payment on debt could consume 7.5 per cent of the Commonwealth Budget and cost $64.1 billion by 2030-31. [Read here]

The Treasury Secretary blames the ‘pandemic and war in Ukraine’ for our mounting bills. Yet, the IPA published this report long before there were any signs of war in Ukraine. Moreover, it wasn’t the pandemic per se that led to our gargantuan deficit – it was our government’s extreme response to it.

The Treasury is still playing a game of smoke and mirrors warning us about debt, but not offering specific figures on exactly how untenable Australia’s debt has become.

The IPA can offer those figures. In landmark research published in August 2022, Australia’s Debt Disaster: Estimating Interest Repayments on Federal Government Debt by 2030, IPA Deputy Executive Director Daniel Wild and IPA Research Fellow Dr Kevin You found that annual interest repayments on federal government debt could quadruple reaching $89 billion by the year 2030.

Such a scenario means that Australia’s annual debt interest repayments will be:

Double the current annual defence budget
Double the current annual education budget
Approximately three times the current annual NDIS budget
The equivalent to the cost of purchasing a fleet of six nuclear submarines [Read here]
IPA Report: Debt Repayments To Quadruple By 2030
Tony Abbott and national service
As geopolitical tensions grow in the Asia-Pacific, the government is rightly focused on building and strengthening Australia’s defence infrastructure. But even the best infrastructure cannot save a country, if the people living there don’t think it is worth fighting for.

In March this year, the IPA surveyed a 1,000 Australians asking them: ‘If Australia was in the same position as Ukraine is now, would you stay and fight, or leave the country’. Of the Australians aged 18 to 24 surveyed, the results were:

Stay and fight: 32 per cent
Leave the country: 40 per cent
Unsure: 28 per cent [Read here]
Which is why, in the latest episode of the podcast Australia’s Future IPA Distinguished Fellow Tony Abbott praised shadow defence minister Andrew Hastie for pointing out that the future of our defence lies in appealing to Generation Z and the younger Generation Alpha. Mr Abbott went a step further and suggested that perhaps we need to start having a conversation about national service for people who turn 18 or leave school. He said:

Whether it’s putting on the uniform and becoming at least a basically trained infantry soldier, whether it’s going to work in a remote Indigenous community to try to ensure that the schools have got plenty of good role models for young people, whether it’s maybe deploying as a kind of an Australian Peace Corps to the South Pacific. There are all sorts of things which people could do.

Yes, we have rights and the government has certain obligations to us, which it should do. It’s best to discharge them but this is a two-way street. It’s about giving as well as receiving and I think we do have to talk more about what we can give back to our country. [Listen here]

The Kids Aren’t Alright
Mr Abbott’s suggestion sparked a debate in the media, with reports in The Australian, The Daily Telegraph, The Herald Sun, Sky News, 9 News and many major metropolitan and regional radio stations across the country.

I think the opportunity of something like national service – military or otherwise – could be the right thing for young Australians, but compulsion would be a big step. The last time it went to the people in a referendum, in 1917, it lost. What do you think? Please share your ‘yay’ or ‘nay’ with me via email!

Twitter and free speech
Love it or hate it, no one can deny that the social media platform Twitter plays an important role in shaping national debates across the globe – if only because journalists spend an inordinate amount of time on it.

Which is why Twitter’s takeover by tech billionaire and self-proclaimed free speech absolutist Elon Musk is so important. He has shown a refreshing willingness to allow a diversity of opinions to prevail on the platform – as against the strict and heavily biased moderation of content preferred by the previous management.

But it may be too early to cheer according to IPA Director of Policy Gideon Rozner. In a piece for The Spectator Australia he warned of the pressure Elon Musk will face from activists and advertisers to maintain the status quo. Gideon wrote:

To veterans of 21st century fight for free speech, this should sound depressingly familiar. Nobody ever openly advocates for censorship, it’s always a case of ‘I support free speech, but…’ ‘Hate speech’ is a frequent carve-out, but the term is used so widely it’s basically meaningless. ‘Misinformation’ is another – despite the fact that almost everything deemed to be ‘misinformation’ by social media platforms, from the efficacy of lockdowns to the murky contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop, turned out to be true.

But it would defeat the entire purpose of Musk’s acquisition of Twitter if he took the knee to the kind of sanctimonious grievance-mongers who are so intimidated by contrary opinions that they have embarked on a childish crusade to simply will them out of existence. [Read here]

IPA Welcomes Peter Dutton’s Culture War Call In Budget Reply
Recommended listening
Stop pandering to woke mobs: Andrew Doyle on Reason TV

I still remember the moment when it first dawned on me that there was no reasoning with social justice warriors. I was debating ‘women’s rights’ with a social worker friend of mine, and suggested that women in Australia were not as oppressed as is often claimed. She smugly responded that I had ‘internalised misogyny’ which is why I felt as I did. I could think of no reasonably way to counter that.

I was reminded of this conversation while listening to this interview of the British author and comedian Andrew Doyle by Nick Gillespie on Reason TV. Doyle, a former comedian and GB News host, has authored a new book The New Puritans: How the Religion of Social Justice Captured the Western World and he talked about the ‘frenzy of conformity’ that plagues so much of contemporary media, academia and policy, and how to counter it. Andrew explained:

The more I have read and thought about this [the social justice movement] the more I have realised that the culture wars are really a battle of language and who gets to control the definition of words. And so in order to combat it, there is an extra shield, if you like. You can’t just challenge the ideas that are being presented in a traditional method, in the Socratic method, or through traditional evidence-based enlightenment values.

Because this movement is impervious to reason and that is deliberate aspect of it. And its practitioners have a habit of redefining language. So basically they can dance around the salvos of their critics. Because if you criticise them, they say, ‘but ah… the words you use to describe me don’t mean the things you think they do.’ [Listen here]

As always, here’s a request before I finish. If you enjoyed this email, please pass it on to at least one friend or colleague who is not yet an IPA member.

Until next week…

Chetna Mahadik
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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 11, 2022 3:16 am

Florida in the news again here with a ‘Hurricane Force One’, i.e. mild, declared in order to bump up the Hurricane numbers for the climate cause. Now that it has crossed the coast and registered it’s been downgraded to a Tropical Storm, but the storm surges have put us off heading down that way till it clears, so we are keeping to country today, probably to end up in Selma, Alabama, like the song says. NASA have called off the blast off due to this storm so we aren’t hurrying down to see that anymore.

Correct spelling of where we stayed last nite is Vicksburg, in case anyone wants to check out the Civil War details online. Hairy tells me the great Mississippi has actually changed course since then so some of the sites don’t make sense until you know that. (probably due to massive flooding in the 20’s)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 11, 2022 3:34 am

I’d rate my relationship with my parents 0. They’ve been dead for years and when alive -5.

That’s sad, Grey Ranga. Objectively, mine failed the three of us in important ways, but they tried in their own minds to have us as a family and to provide care. I think they were both lost, rather than bad. My dad was hugely selfish and my mum miserably dependent first on him, then on us. But can any of us cast the first stone when it comes to ideal parenting of our children? If you’ve been perfect you have some right to criticise. I haven’t, so I don’t. Most parents feel they’ve tried to do their best.

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