Open Thread – Tue 6 Dec 2020


Mary and Joseph on the Way to Bethlehem, Hugo van der Goes, 1475


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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 9:47 am

Therefore MRNA would be correctly memory ribo Nucleic Acid.

Bob – It stands for “messenger ribonucleic acid”. DNA is “deoxyribonucleic acid” as you say.

In cell nuclei the DNA is read by enzymes which produce messenger RNA. That then is used to produce the corresponding protein, after which it gets chopped up and the RNA units reused. So the mRNA vaccine is adding a subroutine directly to the cell – the cellular machinery reads it and produce the protein which it codes for. Cells naturally display such things on their cell membranes so that the immune system can check to see if the cell is infected.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 9:48 am

There is a very fine margin for error before trust is lost.

There is a very fine margin for error before all is lost.

Recall Argentina, Lebanon, The Land of the Free and others.

Ozmailia is a possibility

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 9, 2022 9:48 am

Jab jab booster……………….

Patients commonly ask me why their other doctors push COVID-19 vaccination so hard still to this day, with alarming safety statistics, loss of efficacy, and now, a complete lack of human trial data with the bivalent boosters. The answer may come by following a money trail from HHS and CDC called “COVID-19 Community Corps” that early in 2021, made undisclosed individual payments to hundreds of organizations to promote mass vaccination. There were notable medical groups, including the American Medical Association, American Association of Family Physicians, American Association of Nurse Practitioners, American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Association of Pediatrics, and the American Medical Student Association

These broad acts of public bribery, corruption, and vaccine racketeering worked to put millions of lives in danger as we learned about the risks of COVID-19 vaccination in 2021. As we sit here today, the CDC VAERS system through November 25, 2022, is reporting 15,508 US deaths after COVID-19 vaccination; 22% occurred within 96 hours of the shot.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/why-doctors-push-covid-19-vaccination-so-hard-2d4affa0

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 9:49 am

Ozmalia

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2022 9:52 am

Really?
Flu vaccine prices in Australia somewhere between $21 and $31 a dose.
Australia apparently paid around $26 per dose for pfizer.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 9, 2022 9:54 am

BoN I loved DC10’s, just don’t sit near the door. To me it was a case of not admitting a problem in the internal workings of a company and then not doing anything about it. A common problem when companies that build things are run by lawyers and accountants. Both of them think they know a lot about business but have never made anything. I like that liberty quote Dover has up sometimes, from Thomas Edison, Opportunity wears overalls and looks like hard work. Something like that anyway.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 9:55 am

Declaration: I own NO pffizzer shares

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
December 9, 2022 9:55 am

An apologia for the so-called rights of greenleft extremists to obstruct ordinary citizens going about their lawful business from – guess where – ‘our’ABC:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-12-09/climate-change-protests-jail-what-could-be-more-effective/101737704

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 9, 2022 9:55 am

Ozphailia.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 9, 2022 9:55 am
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 9, 2022 9:58 am
Gabor
Gabor
December 9, 2022 9:58 am

If only we shot 1,000 leftwingers in the back of the head. That would show the rest.

I’m not advocating it, but it would, you know.
That is how totalitarian regimes work.
For a while, anyway.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 10:03 am

The Labor Party shows their true colours.

U.N. Demands Israel Surrender Its Nuclear Arsenal (8 Nov)

The vote at the UNGA First Committee, which deals with disarmament, threats to peace and international security, passed with 149-6. The five nations that voted against the resolution apart from Israel are the United States, Canada, Liberia, Micronesia and Palau.

Even Trudy voted no. Sheesh.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 10:05 am

Snatching the seat of power via underhand methods is nothing new and is relatively easy.
Maintaining your hold on power and keeping your own head attached to its body is another matter.
e.g. Viva el Presidente

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 10:08 am

$31 a dose

$31 ?? the capital of Ozmalia

Figures
Figures
December 9, 2022 10:13 am

Snatching the seat of power via underhand methods is nothing new and is relatively easy. Maintaining your hold on power and keeping your own head attached to its body is another matter.

I don’t think it would be hard at all.

If we force vaccinated (with 1000 vaccines) everybody who believed in forced vaccines, banned the use of electricity by climate change protesters, nationalised the house of everybody who called for the nationalisation of any industry, and sent 50 illegal immigrants to squat in the homes of refugee advocates then all virtue signalling would cease.

From that point on, ensuring the maintenance of the conditions necessary for civilisation would be a walk in the park – for 1000 years. The 20 per cent of people who have an enormous desire to lord it over others will be too scared to say anything and everybody else will be enormously happy.

JC
JC
December 9, 2022 10:14 am

Struth

Who are the folks you think have perished? I’m a little worried for Sanchez as he hasn’t been around for ages. You think he’s gonesky? Really?

Indolent
Indolent
December 9, 2022 10:15 am
Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
December 9, 2022 10:18 am

Interesting from 2015.
The good news is Rappers/Hip Hip musicians don’t live long enough to die of heart disease or cancer

Music to die for: how genre affects popular musicians’ life expectancy

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 9, 2022 10:18 am

They thought Lerhmann was expendable.

You’d have to think this is the case.

A plump, rather unappealing, white accused – a classic target for the chatteratti. And a sufficiently senior apparatchik to be intimately linked to the Morrison Government.

An ideal tactical target for the Barr Labor/Green Government and their national sponsors. A perfect prop for calumnies in the lead up to the 2022 election – nicely complimenting public displays of Brinny hand patting.

He can go unmourned into the chipper, to applause from the great and good.

Splashing all over the right shoes.

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 10:19 am

Old Ozzie:
My God, they’re clueless. This grid collapse will happen and these fuckwits are at war with the people who can prevent it.

Indolent
Indolent
December 9, 2022 10:21 am

‘Crime Against Science’: Senate Hearing Exposes Government’s ‘Mismanagement’ of COVID Pandemic

This is about the roundtable Chaired by Senator Johnson previously linked . I watched all 3 hours. I just couldn’t stop.

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 10:22 am

Struth:

You better wake up and quick fucking smart.
You’re supposed to be right wingers FFS.

Ah! I see your problem Struth. You think I’m a Right Winger, and you’re wrong. I’m a Conservative. Just because you think I’m a Rightie, doesn’t make me one.

Struth
December 9, 2022 10:23 am

We should ban all exports and imports with a totalitarian, murderous regime like China.
We should never have traded with them in the first place, you fucking moron JC.
We’ve empowered them and lost our country as a result.
How expensive was that, for a cheap white good that would have been as cheap from elsewhere if they could have competed fairly?

The cost of trading with criminal communist tyrants is astronomical and we haven’t yet began to pay the real price.
You’re a fucking gobsmacking moron, JC.
Not until they played on a level playing field and didn’t kill thousands for organs and use slave labour while tying up the west through the UN with environmental bullshit to make us uncompetitive, should we have ever entertained the idea of trading with them.

Struth
December 9, 2022 10:25 am

Ah! I see your problem Struth. You think I’m a Right Winger, and you’re wrong. I’m a Conservative. Just because you think I’m a Rightie, doesn’t make me one.

You’re not fucking left wing if you are a conservative, you fucking donut.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 10:30 am

Computer games are racist, sexist and altogether too much fun.

White supremacist ideology flooding online gaming (8 Dec)

The study noted that overall, women experienced the most identity-based harassment at 47 percent, but this number has declined since 2019. … “As online gaming becomes ever more common in America, it also becomes an increasingly common entry to extremist ideas and the gateway to violent antisemitism, racism, misogyny and more,” Greenblatt said.

Put down that copy of Castle Wolfenstein and step backwards slowly with your hands up!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2022 10:32 am

pics of Hunter Biden’s nine inch hog

Good lord do you ever stop obsessing about this?

It was day 837 of the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression story, and m0nty was still hog-wild.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 10:43 am

Music to die for: how genre affects popular musicians’ life expectancy

One for Rabz.

Jet Black dead: The Stranglers’ drummer dies aged 84 after ‘years of ill health’ (8 Dec)

Jet Black, the original drummer for 1970s punk band The Stranglers, has died aged 84, the band confirmed. The musician, who was born Brian John Duffy, was a founding member of the Guildford group, playing on hits like Golden Brown, Peaches and No More Heroes.

“Every day you’re working like a slave
Sweating buckets hoping that you get it right
Will it be as tough tomorrow
Have to wait and see
Life shows no mercy”

The Stranglers – No Mercy (1984)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2022 10:48 am

Robert Sewellsays:
December 9, 2022 at 10:19 am
Old Ozzie:
My God, they’re clueless. This grid collapse will happen and these fuckwits are at war with the people who can prevent it.

Robert,

Australia is Governed by a Bunch of Incompetent (Both Sides) Politicians & Bureaucrats

Coal and gas cut out of capacity mechanism

Mark Ludlow – Queensland bureau chief

Federal and state energy ministers have specifically ruled out coal and gas from being a part of the capacity mechanism that will be introduced next year to ensure there is enough supply in the grid.

At an energy ministers’ meeting in Brisbane on Thursday, Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen hailed the agreement as a breakthrough after the energy ministers controversially took the delivery of the capacity mechanism off the Energy Security Board in August.

Queensland Energy Minister Mick de Brenni – whose state is one of the biggest coal producers in Australia – declared “coal keeper is dead”, a reference to the former Morrison government’s proposal to pay coal-fired power stations to stay in the grid for longer.

?“After a decade of LNP denial and delay, today I’m very pleased to announce that coal keeper is dead. [Former energy minister] Angus Taylor and [former prime minister] Scott Morrison’s coal keeper is dead,” he said.

“What we decided to do is accelerate sensible market reforms and invest in new energy insurance on the grid, it is not funding for new renewable energy. This is about prices because only when the market is dominated by clean, renewable energy will we see wholesale energy prices come down permanently.”

Mr Bowen said the Commonwealth would run auctions for dispatchable generation from next year to ensure there was enough renewable energy in each state or territory.

The bids for the capacity mechanism – or Capacity Investment Scheme – will be underwritten and guaranteed by the federal government.

“That is the risk that the Commonwealth is undertaking on behalf of the country to ensure that we provide that stability and certainty for renewable energy,” Mr Bowen said after the meeting.

“This is important because this will unleash at least $10 billion into investment in renewable energy across Australia, at least six gigawatts of generation.”

‘Huge challenges’

As foreshadowed in The Australian Financial Review, Victoria cemented the right to slam the door on coal and gas as a source of secure energy supply when wind and solar are offline under the deal hashed out by federal, state and territory energy ministers.

Mr Bowen said coal and gas had been specifically excluded from the scheme as Australia moves to have 83 per cent renewable generation by 2030.

NSW Energy Minister Matt Kean acknowledged there were “huge challenges” in the energy transition as coal-fired power is excluded from the grid, but the capacity mechanism would help ensure the “lights stay on during the transition”.

?“We are very pleased that the Commonwealth government has agreed to ensure that the NSW capacity mechanism that we have in place will be supported by the Commonwealth,” he said.

Victorian Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio, who had been instrumental in excluding fossil fuels from the new scheme, said the capacity mechanism would ensure “no more coal generation” and help the state reach 100 per cent renewable energy.

?“Victoria has always had a strong view when it comes to the creation of a capacity mechanism. That is it was to have no fossil fuels incentivised for a future that has to be carbon emissions-free,” she said.

“Today, I am really pleased we have all agreed on a capacity mechanism that will do just that.”

But energy experts, such as Grattan Institute’s energy program director Tony Wood, have warned of the risks of relying on solar, wind and storage to provide dispatchable generation to replace synchronous generation like coal and gas.

“We are not in a position to rely on wind and solar yet and battery storage is questionable to start with,” Mr Wood told ABC TV.

“Around the world, most capacity mechanisms like this tend to have things like as a backup only, things like gas or diesel generation which is just as necessary as backup. We excluded those. So how will it actually deliver reliable dispatcher will capacity as we ramp up supply of renewables. I think it is a big challenge.”

Opposition energy spokesman Ted O’Brien said the Albanese government had “killed the capacity mechanism” which was supposed to make the grid more stable.

“As the ESB originally envisaged, the delivery of affordable and reliable energy in Australia’s energy market will require a balance of technologies as we transition towards a net zero energy system,” Mr O’Brien said.

“Instead, Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen has rejected the advice of the experts and ripped coal and gas out from the generator technologies available under the capacity mechanism.

“Ironically, this decision also sets up renewables to fail because it accelerates their roll out while throwing out existing capacity and leaves the entire system vulnerable for when Labor’s plan fails, and it will fail.”

The in-principle model on the design of a so-called capacity mechanism is understood to mean that other states can establish their own incentives to ensure energy producers provide reliable power, including to fossil fuel generators.

However, the deal is set to deliver a major victory to renewables investors because it removes another support for fossil fuel-fired power even as anxiety grows about Australia’s decarbonisation trajectory.

The proposed capacity mechanism will pay providers to have their capacity available during certain periods to ensure there are no power shortfalls in the grid.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 10:52 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 10:53 am

Street food anyone?

She’s probably applying for the job.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 10:54 am

Really?
Flu vaccine prices in Australia somewhere between $21 and $31 a dose.
Australia apparently paid around $26 per dose for pfizer.

The key here being “how many doses”..
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-statistics
64,382,557

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/australia-covid-vaccine-surplus-options/101237430
Of the roughly 255 million vaccine doses the federal government has purchased, less than a quarter — roughly 60 million — have been administered around the country.

A further roughly 40 million doses have been donated around the Indo-Pacific region.

So at the “middling” price of $26 a dose we actually payed 4 times that amount.

Ooopsie.

Sure it was an honest error.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 10:56 am

However, the deal is set to deliver a major victory to renewables investors because it removes another support for fossil fuel-fired power even as anxiety grows about Australia’s decarbonisation trajectory.

Australia’s suicide trajectory

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 11:00 am

Affinity Partners, LOL. They literally named the company after the kind of fraud they were committing.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 11:03 am

“This is important because this will unleash at least $10 billion into investment in renewable energy across Australia, at least six gigawatts of generation.”

At least six gigawatts!

Um…we’re gonna need a bigger capacity mechanism.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2022 11:04 am

Australia – A Land of Droughts & Flooding Rains

Meanwhile Snowy Hydro could be a bit late and a lot more Expensive

Snowy 2.0 cost increases ‘inevitable’ after Clough collapse

The collapse of the century-old Perth-based engineering group has raised fears that the cost of building big projects such as Snowy 2.0 and the Waitsia LNG project in Western Australia for Japan’s Mitsui and Australia’s Beach Energy will soar.

The 2000-megawatt Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project, which involves building about 40 kilometres of tunnels through the Kosciuszko National Park, has already been beset by delays and cost blow-outs and is running a year late. It is also suffering from management turnover with former Snowy Hydro chief executive Paul Broad abruptly resigning from his job in August.

Switzerland To Ban EV Owing To Energy Crisis?

Switzerland is reportedly making plans to prohibit electric vehicles (EV) from the roads. The national government announces the ban as a remedy to combat the energy crisis. If the nation faces an energy crisis in the winter a ban would be imposed on non-essential journeys in electric cars.

By doing so, Switzerland could become the first ever nation to deal with the energy crisis with a ban on electric vehicles. The officials would allow the EVs on roads for journeys that come under the category of being absolutely necessary. An uncompromising speed limit for vehicles on the highways is also under consideration.

Over 60 % of domestic electricity in Switzerland is generated from its hydroelectric power stations. This includes the river crossing dams and the generators that are operating from between the lakes.

The winter months results in the decreased functioning of the hydroelectric power stations thus causing a major portion of the Switzerlandian power to be received by importing from nations such as France and Germany. This supply is expected to be limited this year.

The hydroelectric power station largely depends on the amount of rain received and melted snow bodies. This is minimal during winter and autumn and is at its maximum during summer and spring.

Switzerland didn’t have a storage of power due to one of the driest summers ever which caused the presence of only shallow water in the rivers and lakes.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2022 11:05 am

So at the “middling” price of $26 a dose we actually payed 4 times that amount.
Ooopsie.
Sure it was an honest error.

The total incompetence, panic and inappropriate decisions (I am being polite today) are beyond understanding. But even more bewildering is the total lack of interest of most Australians in the whole sorry saga.

It is SO upsetting to perceive what has become of the people who once had such good “bullshit detectors”.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 9, 2022 11:06 am

A glimmer of sunlight? Watch the cockroaches scamper.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2022 11:10 am

Broelman counter-factual on the Ivm in his toon this morning. Not funny unless you’re as deluded as he is – or what he thinks his audience are.

Three points on Ivermectin:

• Here’s the paper supporting the theory of how Ivermectin works if applied promptly. https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8449/2/3/15 Browse the figures to see the difference attributed to that drug. e.g. https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8449/2/3/15# McCullogh comments “The published oxygenation curves from multiple studies clearly show this physiological effect of ivermectin occurs so rapidly, it must be explained by a direct anti-Spike protein effect of ivermectin.”

• There is also the case of Dr Paul Marik who was using Ivermectin until his employer (hospital) prevented him, who later testified:

They then accused me of seven most outrageous crimes … and [claimed] that I was such a severe threat to the safety of patients, they immediately suspended my hospital privileges because I posed such a threat to these patients—ignoring the fact that under my care, mortality was 50% less than it was under my colleagues.

• Billions of doses have been given to humans in total since the drug was first synthesised, particularly for *prevention* (not just recovery) of “river blindness” parasites in Central American and African countries. The foundation set up by USA president Jimmy Carter for that purpose is a notable example. The idea that it was only a horse pill is counter-historical nonsense.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 11:16 am

Barbarella is baaack.

Jane Fonda returning to DC to ‘demand’ Biden declare a ‘climate emergency’ – ‘When he does that, all kinds of mechanisms become available to him’ (6 Dec)

“Jane Fonda is getting ready to sound the alarm in Washington once again, heading back to D.C. for her first in-person “Fire Drill Friday” protest in nearly three years.

“COVID is somewhat diminished, and we feel it’s safe. And the midterms are over and we’re entering a new year — we wanted to come to D.C. live and say, ‘OK, this is what the election has meant for climate. This is what we have to do going forward,’ ” Fonda said.”

Hanoi Jane: Racist, Misogynistic ‘Mindsets’ Causing Climate Crisis (6 Dec)

” “But, you know, as I learn more about climate and as I dig deep as I have for the last four or five years, what you realize is if there were no racism, there would be no climate crisis,” Fonda continued. “If there was no misogyny, there would be to the climate crisis. It is a part of a mindset. It is the mindset that looks at a woman and says, ‘nice tits,’ or she could work in the fields. It is the same mindset as the person who looks at the tree and said floors that could make good flooring.”

I don’t know about the flooring, but I did quite like the upper story when I was younger. Not the penthouse though, that could do with a brain transplant.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2022 11:16 am

Billions of doses have been given to humans in total since the drug was first synthesised, particularly for *prevention* (not just recovery) of “river blindness” parasites in Central American and African countries.

Doesn’t anyone wonder why Equatorial Africa had a very low rate of Covid infections, let alone deaths!!!! They use Ivermectin regularly as a prophylactic for these tropical diseases.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2022 11:17 am

Vickisays:
December 9, 2022 at 11:05 am
So at the “middling” price of $26 a dose we actually payed 4 times that amount.
Ooopsie.
Sure it was an honest error.

The total incompetence, panic and inappropriate decisions (I am being polite today) are beyond understanding. But even more bewildering is the total lack of interest of most Australians in the whole sorry saga.

It is SO upsetting to perceive what has become of the people who once had such good “bullshit detectors”.

For a high proportion of the population, if it isn’t reported on FTA TV, which it generally isn’t, it didn’t happen.

Destroy the MSM.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 11:19 am

People in the West have lost sight of reality due to our advancements in technology…

Naturally occurring viruses, bacteria, diseases are natures way of killing off the weak.
We interfere with this by our use of vaccinations and other medical intervention.

Consider the introduction of Myxomatosis to Australia rabbit population.
In the early years, it was highly effective.
Over time, the weak were killed off and the strong continued to breed, passing on greater immunity each time, to a point where wild rabbits are basically immune to it.
You have to get your pet rabbit vaccinated though, because they have been genetically weakened due to successive generations of easy living.

All these same things apply to humanity.

In our pursuit of vaccinating everyone against everything, we allow the weak to survive and reproduce, rather than having them die due to the natural world determining them to be too weak to survive.

Vaccination will cause us to be reliant on vaccination to survive.

Stupid survival system, but an excellent business model if you’re the seller.

johanna
johanna
December 9, 2022 11:20 am

Attended a Christmas lunch yesterday with some old work colleagues – most enjoyable. One of them has a son who is a newly minted architect. As he sensibly joined a small firm, he gets to do entire (small) projects under supervision, instead of the lift shaft of a skyscraper if he was with a big firm.

Anyway, my friend said he sat in (out of sight) on some Zoom meetings his son had with clients during the lockdowns, and then watched him turn the specs into a design on a computer.

Apparently the programs are brilliant. No more drawing boards and set squares. In a day, the boy produced the design for a very fancy house, including:

– all the measurements required by the builder;
– all the plumbing, electrical, aircon etc specs and locations;
and
– ability to show where and how the sun would come in through the windows morning, noon and evening throughout the year.

This is an astonishing leap in productivity, although I doubt if they’ve reduced their prices much. 🙂

Talking about it, we compared it to our early days in offices where we had to send drafts to the typing pool, then edit them and send them back, then further to-ing and fro-ing if those up the line wanted changes. It could take a week to produce a final document. Nowadays, it can be done electronically in a couple of hours.

I suppose that a lot of semi-technical and fully technical trades and professions have experienced similar revolutions, which has happened in less than 50 years.

It really is remarkable, and comparable to the Industrial Revolution IMHO.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 9, 2022 11:21 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
December 9, 2022 at 10:03 am

The Labor Party shows their true colours.

Consistent pattern forming up.

The United Nations General Assembly holds its annual ‘give Israel back to the Palestinians’ – Surrender Meeting In Moscow edition. Overwhelmingly supported by fascists and the turd world.

Australia, which has historically voted againt the text, chose this year to slightly downgrade its support for Israel at the UN and abstained.

The Australian representative at the meeting said that the shift did not signify a lack of support for Israel.

Translation: Nom, nom, nom, plop, plopperty, plop, plop. Does my bum look big in this?

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 11:23 am

Regarding the elekky stuff:
It appears that no one in state or federal government has any engineering, arithmetic or reasoning skills.

This is straight out of the Idiocracy handbook!

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2022 11:24 am

Pfizer ?was the most expensive at around $26,
Astrazeneca was considerably cheaper at around $5 per dose, don’t know about moderna and novavax, both somewhere in between so suggesting we paid $104 per dose delivered is fairly inaccurate.
No disagreement regarding vast overpurchase though.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2022 11:25 am

Not that that was the matter under discussion though.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 11:26 am

The Rabbit Example

As per my previous post

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 11:26 am

Jane Fonda returning to DC to ‘demand’ Biden declare a ‘climate emergency’ – ‘When he does that, all kinds of mechanisms become available to him’ (6 Dec)

Reeducation camps?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 9, 2022 11:26 am

Upthread somebody linked to a Guardian article about young people under 30 getting the 4th jab even though it was against ATAGI advice (ie. Due to myocarditis risk).

One of the Dr’s quoted as advocating for allowing under 30’s to get the jab is Dr Robert Boot. He just happens to be a member of the Immunisation Coalition which is sponsored by big pharma including Pzizer. He is also promoting Paxlovid on 2GB in ads sponsored by Pfizer.

So totally impartial medical advice he is offering which is contrary to ATAGI.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 9, 2022 11:27 am

Booy not Boot

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 11:27 am

Federal and state energy ministers

Clearly, our best and brightest.

John H.
John H.
December 9, 2022 11:28 am

Plasmamortarsays:
December 9, 2022 at 11:19 am
People in the West have lost sight of reality due to our advancements in technology…

Naturally occurring viruses, bacteria, diseases are natures way of killing off the weak.
We interfere with this by our use of vaccinations and other medical intervention.

That is plain wrong. You need to spend a lot more time studying evolution. What is this “Nature” you refer too? A thing? An algorithm? A purposeful creation?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 9, 2022 11:28 am

Keep up, people. Anything Vic can do Qld can do better. Even though they are filthy, pox-ridden and spotty with runny noses.

That’s bloody unfair.
From an early age, we’re taught to wipe our noses on our sleeves.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2022 11:28 am

Paywallian panty buncher Gideon Haigh goes in to bat for KD’s cheating houso ranga. As I’m possibly the last person on Earth to defend CA, I’ll just leave it at that.

Jorge
Jorge
December 9, 2022 11:30 am

P says:
December 9, 2022 at 7:47 am
Brutal reality of new NT law

This isn’t some fantasy world or some (officially) communist regime; it is the law just passed in the Northern Territory.

But will the Catholic Church get it together and challenge such laws ?

The bishops and clergy just don’t get it. Closing churches because of the virus was an indication. There was a young priest in Bacchus Marsh who rallied a few of his parishioners and joined the protesting anti vaxxers but he seems to have been shut down. Compliance with State directives is enjoined upon Christians is the argument but that’s wearing very thin now. The Drum spent a recent program with panelists united in condemnation of the Catholic health system refusing tubal ligation procedures and abortions, all blanketed as ‘reproductive rights’ and ‘health care’.

I’m absolutely convinced that the great reset is all about ridding the world of the Catholic Church. Not so much the social justice stuff. It’s more about the proper and true form of worship in church, and to partake in the sacrifice of Christ on the cross by eating His body and drinking his blood as He commanded. No matter the Vatican is corrupt.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2022 11:32 am

In attempting to fix the NEM, like the proverbial Irishman, I wouldn’t be starting from here.

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 11:32 am

Naturally occurring viruses, bacteria, diseases are natures way of killing off the weak.
We interfere with this by our use of vaccinations and other medical intervention.

Sure, why have hospitals at all? Just let the sick die.

johanna
johanna
December 9, 2022 11:33 am

Vicki says:
December 9, 2022 at 11:05 am

So at the “middling” price of $26 a dose we actually payed 4 times that amount.
Ooopsie.
Sure it was an honest error.

The total incompetence, panic and inappropriate decisions (I am being polite today) are beyond understanding. But even more bewildering is the total lack of interest of most Australians in the whole sorry saga.

It is SO upsetting to perceive what has become of the people who once had such good “bullshit detectors”.

As Boambee John said, the reason is that they don’t know about it. If there were decent Opposition parties calling this crap out loudly and often, and if there was a mass media with a shred of integrity, it would be a different story.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 11:33 am

That is plain wrong. You need to spend a lot more time studying evolution. What is this “Nature” you refer too? A thing? An algorithm? A purposeful creation?

You’ll need to better than just say, “you’re wrong, go learn”
I mean nature/evolution, the weak dying and the strong surviving and carrying on the stronger genetic lines.

rosie
rosie
December 9, 2022 11:34 am

Average life expectancy Africa is just under 64, in Australia it is 83.2 if most Australian covid deaths are people over 80, when why is Africa a surprise?

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 11:37 am

Looking at our dear leaders, I have become sceptical about Darwinist theory.
They are certainly not the fittest or smartest.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 9, 2022 11:39 am

COVID-19 drug Paxlovid has been free; next year, sticker shock awaits

The U.S. government has so far purchased 20 million courses of Paxlovid, priced at about $530 each, a discount for buying in bulk that Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla called “really very attractive” to the federal government in a July earnings call. The drug will cost far more on the private market, although in a statement to KHN, Pfizer declined to share the planned price.

The government will also stop paying for the company’s COVID-19 vaccine next year — those shots will quadruple in price, from the discount rate the government pays of $30 to about $120.

Bourla told investors in November that he expects the move will make Paxlovid and its COVID-19 vaccine “a multibillion-dollars franchise.”

Paxlovid and the other treatments are currently available under an emergency use authorization from the FDA, a fast-track review used in extraordinary situations. Although Pfizer applied for full approval in June, the process can take anywhere from several months to years. And Medicare Part D can’t cover any medications without that full stamp of approval.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 9, 2022 11:40 am

I suppose that a lot of semi-technical and fully technical trades and professions have experienced similar revolutions, which has happened in less than 50 years.

It has.
AutoCAD has replaced design offices filled with engineering draftspersons.

The downside is that the design process has become automated to the point that nobody knows enough about the project to spot the errors – or predict the construction problems ahead of the ISO 9000 Oh, FUCK!! Moment.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 11:40 am

The Drum spent a recent program with panelists united in condemnation of the Catholic health system refusing tubal ligation procedures and abortions, all blanketed as ‘reproductive rights’ and ‘health care’.

Who was the token “staunch Catholic”?

KKK?

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 11:41 am

Bari Weiss @bariweiss
THREAD: THE TWITTER FILES PART TWO.
TWITTER’S SECRET BLACKLISTS.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 11:42 am

Been playing with ChatGPT, the thing is incredibly good at verbal reasoning but fails at visual reasoning. Which is realistically what you’d expect from a language model. If you ask it a question that requires being able to picture something it can get it wrong. It works fine so long as what you are asking can be worked out verbally, for example explaining the underlying meaning of a story or what a character represents.

When they combine ChatGPT with visual AI like stability, midjourney or dall-e it and add long term memory it will be pretty spectacular. Seems they are not adding out of session memory so as not to let the thing get polluted by interaction with the public.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 9, 2022 11:46 am

Robert Sewell says:
December 9, 2022 at 10:19 am

Old Ozzie:
My God, they’re clueless. This grid collapse will happen and these fuckwits are at war with the people who can prevent it.

FMD are these people running our country’s power grid, if so we are fucked.

Figures
Figures
December 9, 2022 11:51 am

Consider the introduction of Myxomatosis to Australia rabbit population.
In the early years, it was highly effective.

Incorrect. It was an epic fail. Myxomatosis is like the Invisible Boy from Mystery Men who could only be invisible when nobody was looking at him.

Rabbits are a particular animal because they breed very easily and they also die extremely easily. So their populations are, naturally, highly variable.

What this means is that if you are prepared to wait a few years, you will always get a drastic fall in a rabbit population (due to climate, habitat loss etc) at some point.

So if you do this whilst continuously releasing a “virus” on the rabbit population, at some point a release will coincide with said drastic fall in the population.

And that is what happened. They released the virus over and over with no success. Eventually though, climate conditions changed, rabbits died off and scientists gave all the credit to their useless “virus”. Just like Invisible Boy, the virus “killed” millions of rabbits that all would have died anyway (note also that there were simultaneous mass poisoning campaigns).

This is from the CSIRO itself. Hilariously they opened their essay by saying the virus worked on introduction but as you read further it becomes clearer that it took years and years for it to “work”.

https://csiropedia.csiro.au/myxomatosis-to-control-rabbits/

Needless to say, when climate conditions became favourable again to rabbits, their population rose again and so our genius scientists pulled out their epicycles and claimed that rabbits were becoming “immune”.

When I first started doubting germ theory it was the true history of myxomatosis that was the most astonishing discovery (along with the Black Death and Spanish Flu actually being caused by treatments and experimental vaccines respectively). Literally everything we are told is a lie.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 11:51 am

Talking about it, we compared it to our early days in offices where we had to send drafts to the typing pool, then edit them and send them back, then further to-ing and fro-ing if those up the line wanted changes. It could take a week to produce a final document.

Johanna, it’s been a fun ride. My first permanent job out of uni we had a typing pool, which was a shock to the system since I’d typed my own theses. Formidable ladies! Then they were all made redundant and we had to type our reports ourselves, which memorably led to some fun with my manager re spelling. I’m a chemist not an English grad!

Only a few years later spreadsheets, plus a project which led me to teach myself AutoCad, since showing a 3D graphic of a design was how you could swing an idea better than words or a whiteboard.

Fortunately while the typing may be software now, and the design may be software, the building still needs a guy with a hammer or a trowel. I don’t know how long that will last. Although the way we’re going in my lifetime so far we just might be back to living in tents, and cooking rats over bits of demolished houses.

C.L.
C.L.
December 9, 2022 11:51 am

All charges against swim coach Kyle Daniels dropped, third trial abandoned.
He deserves an official state apology and lots of money.

This was a case of mass hysteria – which is the defining psychological phenomenon of our time.

P
P
December 9, 2022 11:53 am

But will the Catholic Church get it together and challenge such laws ?

The bishops and clergy just don’t get it.

They appear to be busy with urgent matters:
Oceania facing two major threats, online conference told
9 December 2022

calli
calli
December 9, 2022 11:54 am

The downside is that the design process has become automated to the point that nobody knows enough about the project to spot the errors

Quite so. If Computer Says Yes, then that’s how it’s to be built.

Particularly true of landscape designing, where you’re working on uneven surfaces or ones that have been altered since the last survey.

custard
custard
December 9, 2022 11:56 am

Good article on the link between Larry Ellison and Elon

https://x22report.com/omnipresident-part-3/

calli
calli
December 9, 2022 11:56 am

The upside is also that you can produce sexy instant 3D renderings for those who are incapable of interpreting a plan, or even a section.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 11:58 am

Monty – Why are you linking tweets from a red-pilled NYT editor? Careful, son, you may be contaminated with wrongthink.

As to just letting the sick die, maybe you should ask nice Mr Trudy about that. He seems full-bore keen to expedite the process.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 12:03 pm

The downside is that the design process has become automated to the point that nobody knows enough about the project to spot the errors…

Small beer example….some years back an Anglo-Australian company entered the finescale model railway market with a 1:148 scale model of a GWR Manor class loco.

The model was praised in the model railway press for the level of its detail in such a small scale. But after pre-orders of the locomotive had been distributed an eagle eyed enthusiast, perhaps one of the type sometimes referred to as “rivet counters”, measured the model only to discover that it was 10% out of scale. The company then realised that at some point in the early production process the CAD drawing had been enlarged and the factory worked off the “revised” plans! The result was hardly a fine scale product as advertised and was recalled, presumably at significant cost to someone.

Anders
Anders
December 9, 2022 12:04 pm

Apparently the programs are brilliant. No more drawing boards and set squares.

So much wonderful advancement, pity the people operating the programs have no clue other than to keep churning out the same crappy building designs.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2022 12:04 pm

Biden To Hold Meeting With American Oil And Gas Producers To Ask Them To Help Ukraine

Surely you all remember from Biden’s election campaign the incredibly popular trade policy “Ukraine First”?

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 12:08 pm

But even more bewildering is the total lack of interest of most Australians in the whole sorry saga.

low info voters

Pogria
Pogria
December 9, 2022 12:10 pm

Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
December 9, 2022 at 10:32 am
pics of Hunter Biden’s nine inch hog

Good lord do you ever stop obsessing about this?

“It was day 837 of the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression story, and m0nty was still hog-wild.”

Colonel, it is in his DNA.
Throughout History, munty and his antecedents have been obsessed with dick.

duncanm
duncanm
December 9, 2022 12:13 pm

“officer, I identify as a woman!”

I think the term is I am a lady!

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 12:15 pm

That is certainly the thinking in Canada and they’re only too willing to help

There’s a big difference between not helping people, as opposed to actively murdering them. ?

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 9, 2022 12:18 pm

The Church in Belgium has reported a sharp rise in the number of people asking for their names to be removed from baptismal registers.

The Church’s latest annual report, published on Nov. 30, said there were 5,237 such requests in 2021, compared to 1,261 in 2020 and 1,800 in 2019.

Nevertheless, a rising movement in Europe promoting “debaptism” has encouraged Catholics to write to Church authorities asking to be removed from parish baptismal records. The movement is a consortium of several political and philosophical factions among European secularists.

It said that Mass attendance on an average Sunday was just 166,785 in 2021, compared to 241,029 in 2019.

Attendance at Midnight Mass and on Christmas Day was 347,229 in 2021, a significant drop from 551,134 in 2019.

There are roughly 6.7 million baptized Catholics in Belgium out of a total population of almost 12 million, suggesting that around 2.5% of Catholics attended Sunday Mass in 2021, compared with 42.9% in 1967.

The report noted that there were 36,834 baptisms in 2021, including 162 adult baptisms, compared to 44,850 and 219 respectively in 2018.

There were 41,751 First Communions in 2021, down from 45,079 in 2018; 35,783 confirmations in 2021, compared to 39,284 in 2018; 4,032 Catholic marriages in 2021, in comparison with 6,765 in 2018; and 41,760 Catholic funerals in 2021, fewer than the 48,407 in 2018.

There were eight priestly ordinations in 2021, while six diocesan priests left the ministry in the same year.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 12:21 pm

Purple Party news.

New South Wales government to introduce purple flag accreditation for ‘safe’ hotspots to revive nightlife in Sydney (Sky News, 9 Dec)

“Minister for Enterprise, Investment and Trade Alister Henskens said the initiative would help further position Sydney as a global night-life destination and offer people more ways to enjoy a safe night out. … “We have so many great night-time districts in Sydney and Purple Flag will promote many of the fantastic things they offer,” he said.”

Will there be fights along Oxford St between purple flaggers and rainbow banner wielders? This could be good for popcorn sales.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 12:21 pm

Strange World Has Disney’s First Gay Main Character

they ‘re still working on the P in the mental soup

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 12:23 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 9, 2022 12:23 pm

Sydney turns itself into schoolies. Will they be handing out red frogs?

JC
JC
December 9, 2022 12:23 pm

Struphid

I take it you’ve now purified the Ken Worth and the house etc of Chinese made goods and parts, right?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 12:25 pm

rosiesays:
December 9, 2022 at 11:24 am
Pfizer ?was the most expensive at around $26,
Astrazeneca was considerably cheaper at around $5 per dose, don’t know about moderna and novavax, both somewhere in between so suggesting we paid $104 per dose delivered is fairly inaccurate.
No disagreement regarding vast overpurchase though.

Is there any situation or piece of information which could change your mind on how “wonderful” the lockdowns, brutality and sheer economic wreckage of the governments reaction to a middling range virus were?

The vaccines fail in being vaccines for the EXACT REASON they hadnt produced a successful vaccine worth rolling out for the covid family in anything other than animals.
Short term immunity is a mugs game and coincidentally a stream of gold for the companies making them.

John H.
John H.
December 9, 2022 12:35 pm

Plasmamortarsays:
December 9, 2022 at 11:33 am
That is plain wrong. You need to spend a lot more time studying evolution. What is this “Nature” you refer too? A thing? An algorithm? A purposeful creation?

You’ll need to better than just say, “you’re wrong, go learn”
I mean nature/evolution, the weak dying and the strong surviving and carrying on the stronger genetic lines.

No I don’t need to elaborate because your understanding of immunology is sophomoric. The very idea of a “strong immune system” needs to be heavily qualified because it is impossible for any single person’s immune system to provide protection against all possible pathogens. That’s a brute force molecular fact because of the delicate balancing act between innate driven immune responses and autoimmunity.

Even the concept of “strong genetic lines” is ridiculed with problems because what constitutes stronger genetics is contingent on environmental realities. There must have been a time when APOE 4 had had some selection advantage because 25% of Caucasians carry that allele but it is now the single biggest genetic risk factor for CVD and dementia.

Get an education on both subjects. It takes a long time. Start with dendritic cells. Amazing little things.

duncanm
duncanm
December 9, 2022 12:35 pm

447 gigawatts of storage is required

FMD – first question out of the blocks, and its clear they have no idea what they’re talking about.

watts are a measure of power, not energy.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 12:39 pm

No I don’t need to elaborate because

I’ll take that to mean “I’m right, you’re wrong, shut up, fuck you”

That’s my assessment of your attitude, I have no reason to continue to pay attention to you at this point.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 12:41 pm

Its funny, ha ha, that the most progressive areas of society regularly seem to be some of the worst for all the ‘-isms” they love to dem=nounce..

Todays exhibit.
Gender pay gap in Australian arts almost double that in other industries, research finds
Women paid almost 25% less in performing and visual arts than men, with pay gap almost doubling if artist had a first language other than English

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 12:44 pm

But even if only 25% of that figure was stored in batteries that’s still a lot of batteries.

What is the “carbon footprint” of one of these batteries?

How often will they need to be replaced?

When they are replaced, what happens to them?

Who pays?

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 12:46 pm

UnZed officially a totalitarian state

New Zealand Authorities Legally “Kidnap” A Child

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 9, 2022 12:50 pm

Amazing these morons who don’t even understand the difference between kW and kWh.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 9, 2022 12:52 pm

Johanna and Bruce…

I trained initially as a journalist, writing the weekly motorcycle column for the Hobart Mercury. It took me three goes to have an initial column approved by a sub-editor, who quite rightly sent me back to rewrite it until it was at least marginally acceptable.

In those days you’d type up the column on a typewriter and take it to the sub, who red-penned it and flung it either at a copy-boy, or back at you to take to the typing pool.

I got told to take it in myself on this initial article, so found this room full of ladies who were typing at high speed. As I went in the boss lady took my copy in – and the entire room went silent. About 30 pairs of eyes inspected me, and the boss-lady murmured “fresh meat”. I fled.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 9, 2022 12:53 pm

NT police attacked in remote community
Aaron BunchAAP
Fri, 9 December 2022 9:39AM

Northern Territory police officers have been attacked by a mob of people in a troubled remote Indigenous community, with one officer suffering a head injury.

Police were called to an incident in Wadeye, 400km southwest of Darwin on Thursday evening after a man was allegedly assaulted with an edged weapon.

A group of people allegedly threw rocks at the officers at the site, injuring a policewoman, who was struck in the forehead and suffered a 2cm cut.

The officers were forced to flee from the area but returned a short time later with more police, who helped disperse the mob.

The man, who had allegedly been assaulted was found at the site.

He suffered a cut to his leg and was taken to the local medical clinic for treatment, along with the injured officer.

Commander Kylie Anderson said police have been working “extraordinarily hard” to keep Wadeye residents safe.

“The fact that one of those residents chose to deliberately harm an officer is completely reprehensible and police are currently working to identify all those involved,” she said.

Wadeye is one of the largest Aboriginal communities in the NT, and home to about 3000 people from 22 clans and seven language groups.

It is also situated in one of the most disadvantaged regions in Australia, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and regularly suffers from violent unrest that requires significant police intervention.

Perhaps Linda Burney could visit the community, and explain how a “Voice” will solve all problems.

duncanm
duncanm
December 9, 2022 12:57 pm

447 gigawatts of storage is required

answered by one Beth Brunoro – Head of Division, Electricity at Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water.

No engineering or science background. Degrees in business and environmental management (read: ‘shut it down’)

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2022 12:58 pm

You’d be a mug to employ others in this god forsaken country.

nah they’ve got ya either way.
If you aren’t in a company of employees, that means you’re filling out all the forms yourself and you’ll get hardly any productive work done.

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 1:08 pm

Bari Weiss has concluded her 30-tweet thread detailing Twitter’s shadowbanning system. Interesting if you’re into that sort of thing. They said in 2018 they didn’t do it, but by last year they definitely were doing it.

Not sure any of the perpetrators are going to gaol over any of this, but I’m sure there will be much vindicative joy among Cats.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 9, 2022 1:09 pm

Future Warriors R Us:

The war in Ukraine is draining U.S. arms stockpiles while geopolitical risks grow. Yet the Biden Administration is worried about — you can’t make this up — the climate impact of U.S. weapons and wants to impose costly green mandates on federal contractors.

A little-noticed rule-making proposed by the Department of Defence, NASA and the General Services Administration last month would require federal contractors to disclose and reduce their CO2 emissions as well as climate financial risks. The rule would cover 5,766 contractors that have received at least $7.5 million from the feds in the prior year.

Smaller contractors would have to publicly report their so-called Scope 1 and 2 emissions — i.e., those they generate at their facilities and from the electricity and heating they use. Firms with larger contracts would also have to tabulate their upstream and downstream Scope 3 emissions, including those from customers, suppliers and products used in the field.

What would Patton say?

Oz

Lysander
Lysander
December 9, 2022 1:13 pm

It won’t be long until we have State laws that punish all religious institutions (including Seminaries and Convents) from “discriminating” against gays, trans, sex workers and porn producers. Why, it’s already happening in the Northern Territory:

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/brutal-reality-of-new-nt-law/

The new law is so bad there you don’t even need a complainant or witness. The Commissioner “may undertaken an investigation based on anonymous complaints.”

Send the asteroid. Now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 1:13 pm

“What we decided to do is accelerate sensible market reforms and invest in new energy insurance on the grid, it is not funding for new renewable energy. This is about prices because only when the market is dominated by clean, renewable energy will we see wholesale energy prices come down permanently.”

What we decided to do is accelerate sensible market reforms

Im off at lunchtime to accelerate sensible market reforms on my wife.
After that Ill invest in new energy insurance at the pub till Im legless.

This is about prices because only when the market is dominated by clean, renewable energy will we see wholesale energy prices come down permanently.

Are we allowed to kill you, your family and friends if this doesn’t eventuate? Id love for you to have some real skin in the game, even if its flaying.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 9, 2022 1:15 pm

Unfortunately the NT is infested with Canbra style pubes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 1:16 pm

Even the concept of “strong genetic lines” is ridiculed with problems because what constitutes stronger genetics is contingent on environmental realities.

Um.

Genetic variants that offered protection during Black Death are also associated with current autoimmune disorders (Phys.org, 8 Dec)

How did this plague alter the population’s genetic composition, and did any alleles confer protection in those that survived? These questions are explored in a new paper published in Nature … “We were able to say one of the variants we’re looking at clearly shows a signal of selective pressure over the course of Black Death, and we showed that it’s definitely involved in the immune response to Y. pestis, as well as other pathogens. But today that variant is also associated with a higher risk of autoimmune and inflammatory disorders. So being able to make that link was like, wow, that’s something special.”

Makes a lot of sense as I pop more antihistamines into my mouth, it being late spring and early summer. The immune system takes a fair bit of energy and is apt to overreact, but if it saves you from Yersinia that’s evolution in action. The misery during spring is a small price to pay, sayeth Charles Darwin.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 9, 2022 1:17 pm

Zipstersays:
December 9, 2022 at 12:23 pm
New Zealand Authorities Legally “Kidnap” A Child
Malcolm Roberts

Let’s write an essay about Brittany.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 9, 2022 1:18 pm

So much wonderful advancement, pity the people operating the programs have no clue other than to keep churning out the same crappy building designs.

Our house plans are precise to the mm (which is the Australian standard). I am watching the slab being prepared across the road. One is using a tape measure (and not flat on the ground either) and marking out using a can of spray paint. The others are then roughly placing the formwork against the spray marks.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 1:20 pm

Twitter’s shadowbanning system

Monty, you might want to put down that red pill and walk away from it, slowly.
Shadowbanning of righties has been discussed quite often on the various Cats. It also affects Youtube.

Arky
December 9, 2022 1:23 pm

Reuters does a fact check:

Fact Check-Study of Thai teenagers did not find one third experienced heart effects after COVID vaccination
By Reuters Fact Check
9 MIN READ

A study of 301 teens in Thailand found mild and temporary heart rhythm changes after a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine among one in six teenagers, not one-third as social media posts claim. The study also saw possible signs of heart inflammation in just seven of those teens with rhythm changes and confirmed myocarditis in only one of the seven.

Social media users are circulating the study of post-vaccination heart effects in Thai teenagers with the claim that a third of participants experienced heart effects, and the suggestion that the results indicate a new danger level for children. These posts are missing context: the study’s authors concluded, “We found the risk of these symptoms to be not as low as reported elsewhere, but in all cases, symptoms were mild with full recovery within 14 days.”

..
Question: Assuming Reuters is correct. Would you give your teenage son a treatment that induced changes in heart rhythms in one out of six, and heart inflammation in 7 out of 300 persons, in response to a virus that for that particular age group the risk is so small that it barely registers at all? Would you continue to support a governments that all but mandated these treatments for it’s citizens?

Lysander
Lysander
December 9, 2022 1:23 pm

I really am beginning to believe Jordan Peterson who made a joke about the “last bastion of discrimination that the Nazi Left will come after is marriage.”

He goes on… “how dare you discriminate against all other people, races and gender just to choose one exclusive person to marry, to the detriment of others.”

What do you choose a partner on? Their looks? Health? Education? Ideology? Interests?… these are all “discriminatory choices…”

“Everyone belongs to somebody else” Aldous Huxley.

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 1:25 pm

Oh I know, Bruce. It’s quite obvious that it exists.

A separate question is whether it should exist. I would argue that it is entirely necessary given the long history of content moderation on the Internet forced upon it by bad eggs who want to distribute filth. You can certainly argue the toss as to who should be targeted by it.

Tom
Tom
December 9, 2022 1:27 pm

What the anti-democratic anti-American fascists running Twitter tried to foist on the US (and global) community was more than censorship.

Under new owner Elon Musk, journalist Bari Weiss is now revealing the extent of the shadow-banning, black-listing and mass mind control – all of which the company previously denied was happening — that was being undertaken from Twitter’s San Francisco headquarters, which had become an extension of the Democratic Party and the Biden White House.

Before Musk, Twitter had become the propaganda department of a one-party state.

Tucker Carlson Tonight.

Crossie
Crossie
December 9, 2022 1:28 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
December 9, 2022 at 10:03 am
The Labor Party shows their true colours.

U.N. Demands Israel Surrender Its Nuclear Arsenal (8 Nov)
The five nations that voted against the resolution apart from Israel are the United States, Canada, Liberia, Micronesia and Palau.
Even Trudy voted no. Sheesh.

Albo’s electorate has been a hotbed of anti-semitism for some time. He is simply thanking them for their support.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Plasmamortar says: December 9, 2022 at 11:19 am
Consider the introduction of Myxomatosis to Australia rabbit population.
In the early years, it was highly effective.
Over time, the weak were killed off and the strong continued to breed, passing on greater immunity each time, to a point where wild rabbits are basically immune to it.

In the 70-odd years since myxo was released onto them, rabbit numbers have not approached a fraction of the plague proportions they were in the decades prior to the release.

johanna
johanna
December 9, 2022 1:30 pm

One of the markers of a truly toxic person is that he/she/it leaves a trail of destruction, friends and foes alike. It’s fortunately a rare ‘talent.’

For an insignificant little cog in the vast Parliament House machine, it’s pretty awesome.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 9, 2022 1:30 pm

Not sure any of the perpetrators are going to gaol over any of this, but I’m sure there will be much vindicative joy among Cats.

Doesn’t bother you one jot though, does it monty?

P
P
December 9, 2022 1:30 pm

Consequences for Defenders of Traditional Marriage
Critics predict the measure, passed today by Congress, will be weaponized against groups that hold traditional views on marriage.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., high fives Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D, N.Y., as Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wisc., look on during a bill enrollment ceremony for the so-called ‘Respect For Marriage Act’ at the U.S. Capitol Building on December 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. In a 258-169 vote the House of Representatives passed the act

WASHINGTON — A newly enacted law to codify same-sex civil marriage may have just given the government and activist groups new ammunition against those who adhere to the long-standing view that marriage is between one man and one woman.

The U.S. bishops and religious-freedom groups are warning that the recent passage of the “Respect for Marriage Act,” purportedly aimed merely to uphold the protections afforded to same-sex couples in the Supreme Court’s 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision, in fact opens up new legal avenues for targeting people of faith and others who dissent on the issue.

The measure passed the House 257-168 Thursday, Dec. 8. It is expected to be signed into law shortly by President Joe Biden. Requiring all states to recognize same-sex civil marriages performed out of state, it formally repeals the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) that defined marriage as between one man and one woman.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 1:31 pm

447 gigawatts of storage is required

answered by one Beth Brunoro

Lets assume she means GWh. The great big battery in South Australia which Elon provided was about 100 MWh capacity and cost about $100 million.

So 447 GWh would cost roughly $447 billion, give or take a few bucks.
Then, after ten years, another $447 billion to replace the worn-out batteries.
And of course lithium prices have skyrocketed since SA put in their huge battery…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Two biological controls that worked on feral pests:
Myxo on Rabbits.
Cactoblastis on Tree Pear & Prickly Pear.
A third would be whatever was turned loose onto Rubber Vine.

All of those were saturating the countryside & totally & completely denying use of the land.
In the case of Rabbits, also totally destroying the land.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 1:32 pm

In the 70-odd years since myxo was released onto them, rabbit numbers have not approached a fraction of the plague proportions they were in the decades prior to the release.

I agree with that, my point was that the surviving rabbits, over several years, have become immune to the virus.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 1:36 pm

Oh I know, Bruce. It’s quite obvious that it exists.

Monty, I am mystified why you’re hot on this topic today. Shadowbanning and demonetization have been tools often used by the Left to persecute righty bloggers and video producers. We’ve known this for many years now. Yet suddenly you are condemning the practice? What gives?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 1:36 pm

I would argue that it is entirely necessary given the long history of content moderation on the Internet forced upon it by bad eggs who want to distribute filth.

Gee, funny how ineffective they were at that core function then eh?
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-says-child-sexual-exploitation-content-is-top-priority-2022-11
Bleu told Tesmanian that “the new management of the company takes the CSE problem seriously,” emphasizing that the three main hashtags used to sell child sexual abuse content on Twitter have been cleared since Musk’s takeover.
Insider found that Twitter had removed most of the content using these hashtags, but there were still some tweets requesting CSE content.

Bleu also said that Twitter had added a direct reporting option for child sexual exploitation on tweets with images or videos. Insider was able to verify this, and found that when reporting a tweet, users can now select the option of “child sexual exploitation” as the reason for the report.

To strap on the tinfoil, If I was an unscrupulous intelligence agency looking to compromise as many people as possible would Twitter ‘marketplaces” for this sort of shit be ideal?

Struth
December 9, 2022 1:38 pm

Struphid

I take it you’ve now purified the Ken Worth and the house etc of Chinese made goods and parts, right?

After being smacked in the face with the reality of his own “libertarian” dopeyness, this is all he has in response.

The facade is thin and easily seen through these days.

Pogria
Pogria
December 9, 2022 1:41 pm

Australian cryptocurrency exchange Digital Surge collapses into administration

Tip of the iceberg?

custard
custard
December 9, 2022 1:42 pm

So Dorsey lied to Congress in 2018.

That could be a problem for Jack.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 1:42 pm

I am actually quite interested Monty. As an example: Tony Heller, who has been a thorn in the side of the climate nazis for over a decade. His videos get demonetized, and YT actually edits the number of views on the fly to reduce their reach. At times he’s been banned as well. He also has been unpersonned by both Google and Bing, so if you try to search any of his articles literally no hits are returned. Yet he is telling the exact truth, with supporting data from official sources.

Did you not know of this practice? It has been going on for a long time. Many well-known righties have been shadowbanned. James Woods certainly as I recall.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I agree with that, my point was that the surviving rabbits, over several years, have become immune to the virus.

That didn’t take long either.
It is still there amongst them though, the resistance isn’t being passed to all of them. Every now & then you see a rabbit dying of it.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 1:50 pm

Gender pay gap in Australian arts almost double that in other industries, research finds women paid almost 25% less in performing and visual arts than men

Do these oft-repeated claims ever get fact checked?

Struth
December 9, 2022 1:52 pm

And still we read the same old bullshit here day in day out.
Our politicians are “stupid” and incompetent.
Really?

Why oh why oh why they cry, are our politicians doing this to us?

Because you’re stupid.
Not them.
They are enemies of the west, many of them WEF plants, out to destroy the nation states of the west.

Denialism……..why won’t you let yourself see the truth?
It would save you making a goose of yourself everyday calling the enemies of this nation….(who are succeeding in destroying it, because you won’t believe they are doing it purposefully), idiots and incompetents, when it’s you…YOU who are in denial and therefore the fucking idiot.

Let’s just go with Greg Hunt.
You know who Greg Hunt is and who his masters are, don’t you?
You’ve been shown proof here many, many times……
Same with Sco Mo and a host of others from Simon Birmingham to Sarah Sea Patrol and many many more we don’t know of who, as Klaus himself brags, “have penetrated ze cabinets”

What is it about traitorous behaviour you won’t let yourself see?
Once you do, all is clear and you see exactly what they are doing.

Go to the mirror.
Slap yourself in the face and say my god, I was smarter than this once, why aren’t I now?
Accept the truth…………..

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 1:55 pm

Monty, I am mystified why you’re hot on this topic today. Shadowbanning and demonetization have been tools often used by the Left to persecute righty bloggers and video producers. We’ve known this for many years now. Yet suddenly you are condemning the practice? What gives?

I am not condemning it per se. These are legitimate tools if used judiciously. Private publishers are allowed to exercise editorial judgment in a free society. No one is entitled to amplification of their message, there is no right of broadcast.

It is interesting to see what the internal systems look like. Quite routine and simple, from the looks of it. I guess the complexity is in the back-end code.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 9, 2022 1:56 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:42 pm
I am actually quite interested Monty. As an example: Tony Heller, who has been a thorn in the side of the climate nazis for over a decade. His videos get demonetized, and YT actually edits the number of views on the fly to reduce their reach. At times he’s been banned as well. He also has been unpersonned by both Google and Bing, so if you try to search any of his articles literally no hits are returned. Yet he is telling the exact truth, with supporting data from official sources.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the wankers from sussietube sent him the 100K sub achievement plaque.

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 1:59 pm

As for Tony Heller, I don’t care at all about him getting demonetised. Maybe if he stopped lying, he’d have a better time of it.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 2:00 pm

447 gigawatts of storage is required

answered by one Beth Brunoro – Head of Division, Electricity at Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water.

Speaking of failing upwards in the APS, the lady who headed up the robodebt fiasco has been put in charge of the AUKUS joint project office in Defence.

Under questioning at the royal commission, Ms. Campbell conceded that robodebt was a “significant failure of public administration.”

It was also illegal, as Ms. Campbell was advised.

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 2:05 pm
Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 2:05 pm

Woger:

Small beer example….some years back an Anglo-Australian company entered the finescale model railway market with a 1:148 scale model of a GWR Manor class loco.

Looking at some of the work being done on precise 5 Axis machining equipment, I wonder when someone starts making models of tanks, artillery etc that are just about perfect reproductions.

Speedbox
December 9, 2022 2:06 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:32 pm

Remember the calici virus back in the mid 90s? I was living in SA at the time and rabbit numbers were decimated.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 9, 2022 2:07 pm

m0ntysays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:59 pm
As for Tony Heller, I don’t care at all about him getting demonetised. Maybe if he stopped lying, he’d have a better time of it.

I figured out your Modus Operandi, years go.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 9, 2022 2:09 pm

Regarding cost of vaccines there is the actual Vax cost and then there is the payment for the jabber location such as Dr clinic or pharmacy. I believe the Govt pays $32 per jab administered.

However if you factored in how many jabs paid for then wasted due to expiry then cost per administered jab easily over $100.

As for Reuters fact checking it should be noted they are represented on the board of Pfizer.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 2:12 pm

Monty – I’ve been reading Heller’s blog for over a decade and I can’t recall him ever to have lied. Indeed he usually supports his articles with the official data from the likes of USHCN and NOAA. Plus Trove, which has a lot of extremely good stuff.

I’m yet to see any official data from you that supports your position. And every time we engage upon such topics you tend to mysteriously vanish. That’s OK. I don’t expect people without the training to have to do that sort of thing…unless they accuse someone of lying who is scientifically accurate. Ante up or piss off.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 9, 2022 2:12 pm

447 gigawatts of storage is required

Hmmm.

How about we use the free solar/wind power we have to convert biomass into coal, gas and oil.
We could then use this stored energy whenever we need it.
I am surprised it hasn’t been done already!

err… Hang on a minute …

m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 2:21 pm

Yeah Bruce I’m not going to get into the weeds with you on this one. I have a life.

Cassie of Sydney
December 9, 2022 2:21 pm

“C.L.says:
December 9, 2022 at 11:51 am
All charges against swim coach Kyle Daniels dropped, third trial abandoned.
He deserves an official state apology and lots of money.

This was a case of mass hysteria – which is the defining psychological phenomenon of our time.”

Correct C.L. The case had elements of the satanic ritual abuse mass hysteria back in the 1980s and 1990s. Fabricated accusations to suit a narrative. Police, mainly a zealous North Shore female detective, deliberately coaching small children so as to invent a case against Daniels. The whole thing stank from the beginning. Disgraceful.

Roger
Roger
December 9, 2022 2:24 pm

I wonder when someone starts making models of tanks, artillery etc that are just about perfect reproductions.

Right down to the mud on the tracks 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 9, 2022 2:28 pm

Always fun when Monty does a Sir Robin.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 9, 2022 2:30 pm

Always fun when Monty does a Sir Robin.

like this?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 2:33 pm

MONORAIL!!!!

I mean Okagee..

The place where a port couldnt be built.
Where no industry exists.
WA is working to establish 6,000 hectares at Oakajee, north of Geraldton, as one of the largest renewable hydrogen producing areas in the world.

Now the process uses electrolysis.
What happens to the concentrate left over, heavy in sodium salt as well as other salts?
You have a salt slug all ready to go..
https://www.wired.com/story/desalination-is-booming-but-what-about-all-that-toxic-brine/

Not to mention THERE IS NO PORT FACILITY THERE!!! And the nearest existing port, Feraldton, is over capacity anyway due to competing export items (Iron ore/cereals).

You also have some very productive farmland which will become solar panel wastelands.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Yeah Bruce I’m not going to get into the weeds with you on this one. I have a life.

Translation: I made something up, I’ve got nothing to support my lie, I concede the point to you without even trying, as you’ll win 100 – 0

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2022 2:37 pm

Speedboxsays:
December 9, 2022 at 2:06 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:32 pm

Remember the calici virus back in the mid 90s? I was living in SA at the time and rabbit numbers were decimated.

Yes and after millions of dollars spent to seriously control rabbit populations, very good results were left to rot on the vine. More
Australian stupidity. I hardly saw a rabbit for years after calici. They have now built up again.

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2022 2:39 pm

** “rot on the vine” with no followup.**

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 9, 2022 2:45 pm

m0nty says: December 9, 2022 at 1:08 pm

Bari Weiss has concluded her 30-tweet thread detailing Twitter’s shadowbanning system.
… I’m sure there will be much vindicative joy among Cats.

Nah.
This one is a nothingburger.
😈
Only because people already suspected the reach-limiting (VF) was happening from the view counts and lack of comments, but it is good to see internal confirmation of the mechanism.
And the rationale for VF that worked for “civic integrity” (elections??) was to later be used in other topics and arguments. It’s hard to not make a slippery-slope argument when your opponents are planning a slippery slope. 😀

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 2:50 pm

Dover Beach, I’ve been looking for the posts by JC denouncing Winston Smith as a potential Anders Behring Breivik, and the posts by Ed claiming I am calling for killing cops.
I can no longer find them and assume you must have removed the offending comments. Thanks.
I have of course kept both my digital and printed copies of their posts.
I also assume you have corresponded with JC about his claims and innuendo.
However it appears he is now pushing his boundaries to see what he can get away with:

JCsays:
December 9, 2022 at 9:45 am
If only we shot 1,000 leftwingers in the back of the head. That would show the rest.

It’s like a bloody minded 8 year old.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 9, 2022 2:51 pm

Dr F, ISO9000, measures the quality of the shit, knows where it’s come from but doesn’t know it’s shit. I had a mate with sign up in his establishment saying, “the cost of oats is expensive,if you want oats that have been through the horse go elsewhere”.

cohenite
December 9, 2022 2:52 pm

As for Tony Heller, I don’t care at all about him getting demonetised. Maybe if he stopped lying, he’d have a better time of it.

Give an example of Tony Heller’s lies; and don’t forget an example of Trump’s censorship.

Tony was out in Australia with Tim Ball in 2016. Both great men and brave with Tim now dead. There’s no justice.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 2:52 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 2:53 pm

Winshuttle takes henry Reynolds out to the woodshed..
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/the-voice/2022/12/the-lying-art-of-truth-telling/

In The Other Side of the Frontier, the book that made him famous when published by Penguin Books in 1981, Reynolds claimed that 20,000 Aborigines had been killed in frontier warfare. Of these, he said, 8000 to 10,000 were killed in Queensland, largely by the colony’s Native Police. However, the only source Reynolds footnoted for these figures was an essay of his own titled “The Unrecorded Battlefields of Queensland”, published by his employer, James Cook University, in a little-read anthology he edited himself. When I found it, I was surprised to see it was not a record of how many blacks had been killed but of how many whites had been killed by blacks in Queensland in the nineteenth century. Reynolds counted white deaths at between 800 and 850 but added, only in a footnote at the very end of the piece:

Aboriginal fear and insecurity was, we must assume, infinitely greater than that of the settlers. Their death rate may have been ten times more than that of the Europeans.

This was the sole “evidence” he offered for his claim of a total of 10,000 Aboriginal deaths in Queensland.

This “truth telling” is off to a shaky start.

Speedbox
December 9, 2022 2:53 pm

JMH says:
December 9, 2022 at 2:37 pm

I don’t have any info on that – no involvement in the virus or rabbit control whatsoever. I just remember that rabbits were almost completely wiped out in SA (at the time).

There was some kerfuffle that the virus was released prematurely by somebody and then the CSIRO (I think) had to undertake a full-scale release so the impact was not mitigated. I don’t remember the details but do recall seeing grumpy agriculture and (CSIRO) officials fronting the TV news.

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2022 3:01 pm

Speedbox @ 2.53 pm

There was some kerfuffle that the virus was released prematurely by somebody and then the CSIRO (I think) had to undertake a full-scale release so the impact was not mitigated. I don’t remember the details but do recall seeing grumpy agriculture and (CSIRO) officials fronting the TV news.

That’s pretty much my recollection also and I think it happened in SA. What got my goat was that CSIRO et al just dropped the whole programme that worked so effectively with no attempt at a later ‘calisi 2’ release to finish the job properly. All that money and effort flushed down the S-bend.

duncanm
duncanm
December 9, 2022 3:01 pm
Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 3:02 pm
m0nty
m0nty
December 9, 2022 3:04 pm

Tony Heller is perfectly entitled to publish his own video blog. He is not entitled to money from YouTube. Alphabet retains the right to publish whomever they please on the terms they contract.

Vicki
Vicki
December 9, 2022 3:06 pm

Re Henry Reynolds and footnotes :

Years ago I was travelling in Tasmania & decided to attend a talk by Windshuttle and others (including Reynolds, as I recall) at a history conference at the university. This was the first time, since my retirement, that I had heard the rabid anti-colonialists talking about the planned “extermination” of the Aboriginal populations.

I got to talking to Windshuttle after the event about the state of Australian history in this country and he astonished me by saying that footnotes were seemingly no longer required to verify propositions in texts and articles. This was just beyond my ken.

As a clear result, people like Pascoe and others just get away with virtual fiction.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2022 3:09 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:36 pm
Oh I know, Bruce. It’s quite obvious that it exists.

Monty, I am mystified why you’re hot on this topic today. Shadowbanning and demonetization have been tools often used by the Left to persecute righty bloggers and video producers. We’ve known this for many years now. Yet suddenly you are condemning the practice? What gives?

m0nty=fa’s fantasy football site has been shadow banned?

Speedbox
December 9, 2022 3:11 pm

JMH – it was in SA as I’m sure the virus was developed at the CSIRO’s laboratory at Urrbrae (Waite Campus). Urrbrae is an inner eastern suburb of Adelaide.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2022 3:14 pm

m0ntysays:
December 9, 2022 at 1:59 pm
As for Tony Heller, I don’t care at all about him getting demonetised. Maybe if he stopped lying, he’d have a better time of it.

“lying” = challenging the so-called progressive” narrative.

Mater
December 9, 2022 3:16 pm

Winshuttle takes henry Reynolds out to the woodshed..

He takes them all to the cleaners in this now aging missive.

http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/resources/pdfs/197.pdf

10 pages of must read, which will leave you agasp.

“Since the publication of my book last November it has been the subject of an often vicious debate in the press. Let me point out how academic historians have responded. In the February edition of Australian Book Review, Alan Atkinson of the University of New England described an article of mine in The Australian (9 December 2002) as “heart-sinking”. That article was largely a list of examples of the abuse of scholarship that I have just given, showing invented incidents, concocted footnotes, altered documents and gross exaggeration of the Aboriginal death toll. What made Atkinson’s heart sink, however, was not this catalogue of misconduct. Instead he was dismayed that my critique was based on such an outdated concern as getting the facts right. “Windschuttle aims to take the discipline of History back to some golden age,” he lamented, “when it was all about facts.”

custard
custard
December 9, 2022 3:17 pm

Montifa is a moron BoN and won’t debate you cos he knows he’ll lose.

The left are frightened of facts.

Speedbox
December 9, 2022 3:19 pm

Unrelated to rabbits but Bob Katter said today that “People like the CSIRO are nothing more than prostitutes, they serve the master that pays them.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-09/queensland-government-abandons-bradfield-scheme-after-report/101751678

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 9, 2022 3:19 pm

Leaked email claims Lehrmann case prosecutor did not consult police before releasing FOI
James Massola
By James Massola
Updated December 9, 2022 — 2.07pmfirst published at 1.55pm

ACT Police chief Neil Gaughan says the force was not consulted by Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold before the prosecutor released a letter under freedom of information laws that slammed territory police for their conduct in the investigation of Bruce Lehrmann, the man accused of raping Brittany Higgins.

The federal police union on Thursday flagged it would refer the release of the unredacted letter to The Guardian by Drumgold’s office to the Office of the Australian Information Commission and the ACT Ombudsman as a possible breach of Freedom of Information laws.

In The Guardian’s report of the letter, Drumgold alleged police engaged in a “very clear campaign to pressure” not to prosecute Lehrmann and called for a public inquiry to examine “both political and police conduct” relating to the case.

The leaking of the ACT police chief’s email to the police force underscores the dramatic deterioration in the relationship between ACT police and the public prosecutor’s office.

The decision not to proceed with Lehrmann’s retrial has triggered an extraordinary series of exchanges between the public prosecutor and the police union, all highly critical of the professional conduct of each other, and both camps calling for inquiries into the mistrial.

In a leaked email sent by Gaughan to ACT police and obtained by this masthead, Gaughan states that “I became aware that the DPP had released this letter under FOI this afternoon [Thursday] after the Guardian had contacted ACTP media for comment”.

“ACT Policing was not consulted in the FOI process,” Gaughan wrote.

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 3:20 pm

Speedbox:

There was some kerfuffle that the virus was released prematurely by somebody and then the CSIRO (I think) had to undertake a full-scale release so the impact was not mitigated.

I remember it moderately well.
The Department wanted to keep testing (Otherwise the funding was cut back) for another three or four years.
The farmers had a major environmental problem right now, and knew damn well the administrators were going to sit on their arses to keep the dollars coming in.
So one of them went to ?King Island? carved a few bunnies up and transported their kidneys back in a few test tubes.

Zipster
Zipster
December 9, 2022 3:22 pm

Alphabet retains the right to publish whomever they please on the terms they contract.

They can’t get S230 protection if they are a publisher, so which is it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 9, 2022 3:23 pm

I am watching the slab being prepared across the road. One is using a tape measure (and not flat on the ground either) and marking out using a can of spray paint. The others are then roughly placing the formwork against the spray marks.

You’ve never set anything out in your life, but you’re an expert anyway?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 9, 2022 3:27 pm

“Windschuttle aims to take the discipline of History back to some golden age,” he lamented, “when it was all about facts.””

It’s a pity Keith Windschuttle never wrote the third book in the series on “The Fabrication of Aboriginal History!”

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 9, 2022 3:30 pm

Windschuttle:

…altered documents and gross exaggeration of the Aboriginal death toll.

Windschuttle translated:
My Aboriginal Death Toll is acceptable [and yours isn’t].

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2022 3:30 pm

Speedboxsays:
December 9, 2022 at 3:11 pm

JMH – it was in SA as I’m sure the virus was developed at the CSIRO’s laboratory at Urrbrae (Waite Campus). Urrbrae is an inner eastern suburb of Adelaide.

I had a friend (died in 2003) who was a bunny-buster controller here. The work was massive. Bulldozing of warrens, etc. correctly releasing the calici, then following up removing carcasses for evaluation and recording. Went on for a heck of a long time in my area of Victoriastan.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

m0nty says: December 9, 2022 at 3:04 pm
Tony Heller is perfectly entitled to publish his own video blog. He is not entitled to money from YouTube. Alphabet retains the right to publish whomever they please on the terms they contract.

“.. the right to publish whomever they please..”
Just like “… the right to bake cakes for whomever they please… “

JMH
JMH
December 9, 2022 3:33 pm

I should have said ripping warrens with bulldozers!

Dot
Dot
December 9, 2022 3:44 pm

m0nty says: December 9, 2022 at 3:04 pm
Tony Heller is perfectly entitled to publish his own video blog. He is not entitled to money from YouTube. Alphabet retains the right to publish whomever they please on the terms they contract.

LOL!

But Twitter MUST be regulated!

What, are you retarded, son?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 9, 2022 3:46 pm

Windschuttle translated:
My Aboriginal Death Toll is acceptable [and yours isn’t].

or

I have actual records Im consulting and not using Ed-Facts* as the basis for my claims

* Like regular facts, but with 100% less factual content.

Figures
Figures
December 9, 2022 3:46 pm

Assume they meant 447 GWh, there is 50 GW of electricity generation capacity in Australia right now.

So 447 GWh is around 9 hours of that. Call it 24 hours as presumably the 50GW isn’t running at anything like 100 per cent.

So we will call it one day’s worth of electricity storage. A wind drought in winter (when solar panels are running way below capacity) could last a week. Two weeks even. Maybe a cumulative 6 weeks over the 3 months of winter.

No matter how much battery capacity we have – 1 day, 1 week, even a month – at some point, we will have a wind drought that lasts longer than the battery capacity. And once the batteries are discharged we’ll have basically nothing. Note that it won’t be a matter of, say, a 20 per cent fall in electricity generation and the market needing to redistribute scarce power to critical areas at high prices. It will be simply that there is, for all intents and purposes, no electricity.

This is what these idiots have assured us. And there’s basically no going back now.

Every home/office in Australia will need a petrol/diesel generator.

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 3:48 pm

Mater:

He takes them all to the cleaners in this now aging missive.
http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/resources/pdfs/197.pdf

Thanks for the link – I knew of the paper but didn’t have a copy.
Just recently took delivery of a mono laser Brother printer and it’s been getting a work out.
I’m going to Brisbane for Christmas for a family do, and I’ll take a couple of copies with me for the High School kids who might like a read.

Mater
December 9, 2022 3:50 pm

Windschuttle translated:
My Aboriginal Death Toll is acceptable [and yours isn’t].

Nah champ, he just went to the source quoted for the death toll, and the source said something different.

He never claimed a death toll, just the falsification of one.

Speaking of fabrication, how’s those death threats towards Brittany going? Been able to scrounge some up?

Indolent
Indolent
December 9, 2022 3:51 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

custard says: December 9, 2022 at 1:42 pm
So Dorsey lied to Congress in 2018.
That could be a problem for Jack.

Something for President Trump to handle in February 2025

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 9, 2022 3:54 pm

Talk to anyone in the street in Europe, ask them the first thing that they think of when you mention Australia.
Pounds to peanuts, it’s
They Genocided the Tasmanian Aborigines.
That’s our history, like it or not.

Robert Sewell
December 9, 2022 3:54 pm

Dick Ed:

You’ve never set anything out in your life, but you’re an expert anyway?

I’m just going to sit back and laugh while you get dismembered you deranged halfwit.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 9, 2022 3:55 pm

m0ntysays:
December 9, 2022 at 3:04 pm
Tony Heller is perfectly entitled to publish his own video blog. He is not entitled to money from YouTube. Alphabet retains the right to publish whomever they please on the terms they contract.

Hoe about you provide an example of Heller’s “lies”, rather than quietly backing off like this.

Or don’t the DemonRat Talking Points include any examples?

JC
JC
December 9, 2022 3:55 pm

Dover Beach, I’ve been looking for the posts by JC denouncing Winston Smith as a potential Anders Behring Breivik, and the posts by Ed claiming I am calling for killing cops.
I can no longer find them and assume you must have removed the offending comments. Thanks.
I have of course kept both my digital and printed copies of their posts.
I also assume you have corresponded with JC about his claims and innuendo.
However it appears he is now pushing his boundaries to see what he can get away with:

Turtlehead, let’s be very clear about this. The person who made the comment was someone called Winston Smith. He looks like a Caribbean turtle, which is the reason he’s referred to as the Turtlehead. But that’s an aside. Would I be right in assuming you’re the same person?

Anyway, I see your comment as a veiled threat. Let me just warn you though, I have kept every single defamatory comment you have made towards me. The lies in relation to “Brian: are a good example, you disgusting piece of filth. The comment about killing 1,000 people is deranged commentary and I would welcome you testing this in court, you disgusting cunt. Also, try not to every talk to me again, you lunatic. Thanks.

Is this another example of “Winston Smith” crying to the blog owner when he gets into trouble.

This was Winstron Sith, right?

All I can say is that which I’ve quoted from Taxicab Depressions :
“These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are fucking around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 1000 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 9, 2022 3:57 pm

He never claimed a death toll, just the falsification of one.

Okay, champ.
So, he’s one of these arseholes who scour the Internet looking for things to debunk, but he’s never done a skerrick of original research himself?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

By the size of the spazzo being chucked @ 3.55pm it looks like Robert Sewell hit bullseye.

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