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The Census at Bethlehem, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1566


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December 15, 2022 8:11 am

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Mater
December 15, 2022 8:11 am

Thanks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2022 8:13 am

JCsays:

December 15, 2022 at 8:10 am

Salvatore has always been Steve to me, btw. My bad, but he was Steve long ago until he transitioned ethnicity. Does that clear anything up? I trust that ‘Driller’ is Salvatore?
….
Only last night he lied that he’s never changed his name.

Oh dear, Lizzie.
I think you have unwittingly confirmed Sal/Steve’s looseness with the truth.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 8:14 am

Sancho Panzer says:
December 15, 2022 at 8:07 am
Most important of all.
What happened to the Trains’ stash of iodine?

If he doesn’t show up by Friday I’m radioing in a welfare check, but this time it should be the SWAT team at night.
For obvious reasons.
I suspect he o’d’ed and the idiot poisoned himself to death.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 8:15 am

I don’t know a teacher that doesn’t have one, but I guess it’s possible.

I don’t do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or the CCP ones. A deliberate decision long ago to not be bothered by past students. I supposed Catallaxy might draw in a few, but usually the nicer ones.

One of my five ex brother-in-laws comes in here occasionally, lurks a bit.
Don’t know of any others from my deep past who do.
My only other social media is commenting on The Australian. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 8:15 am

Oh, and Quadrant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:15 am

That is possibly the most hurtful thing ever said to me on this august journal of record, and I’ve had people call me a child molester.

That’s nothing. Special Ed once agreed with Rabz.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 8:15 am

Dont forget ‘camera went flat’ … the AFP used that in my trial in Canberra

What? No, no no no no. Ho ho no.

I am reliably advised that these things, which are supplied to jacks in every State and Territory by the same company are almost impossible to ‘go flat’ without deliberate intervention – ie, leaving them uncharged for literally months. Apparently it is standard practice, under threat of getting a smack across the back of the hand with a metal ruler, to put the units in big charging banks at stations when not being worn.

When you put them in the charging banks (it is said), it also allows for automatic footage downloads onto the system.

‘Went flat’. Fuck off. In all likelihood it was an ‘oh fuck’ moment, or a ‘make an example of this one’ moment, of which both are equally stupid because prosecutors, defence mouthpieces and the courts also know this.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 8:17 am

“but other than the Car folks I didn’t sense lots of hatred and outrage against them in punterville.”

Hmm, JC I did, particularly among longstanding Liberal voters such as my sister. They were seething. She lives in a marginal electorate and her hatred and outrage at the unlamented former Liberal member for the electorate of Reid, Fiona Martin, was palpable.

Fiona Martin, like the other unlamented Liberal Katie Allen, don’t even have the excuse of losing to a Teal. Both lost their seats to Labor.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 8:17 am

Oh my struggling scroll wheel!

shatterzzz
December 15, 2022 8:20 am

Anthony Albanese pushes residents to get off the gas and switch to electricity

Bit short on reality this one .. 90% of social housing in Oz is a mix of gas/electric power .. not sure about how it works in other states but in NSW (250 000 properties) the HC gets/got a kickback from AGL for allowing gas installation in public housing .. given that the conversion to all electric would be a NSW gummint expense with no clawback …….. duuuuuuh!

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 8:22 am

“As Neil Oliver said, ‘Its not about going green, its about going without…’”

without power, without food.

It isn’t just that we will own nothing, will have nothing to keep us warm and we will have nothing to eat. We’re being told to eat bugs, I presume the idea is that the bugs will be raw?

All part of the great reset.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:22 am

I’m old enough to remember when gas was part of our clean energy future. Have those goalposts moved? Pretty common with zealots.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 8:23 am

Duk

Please tell us your silk is following this up with great vengeance and furious anger?

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 8:24 am

Scroll wheel?

PgUp, PgDn, Home, End!

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 8:24 am

Also

Ctrl F

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 8:24 am

Those dead eyes are familiar. We see them on all the joyless Gaia worshippers.

Funny joke, but.

I saw something while idling away time taking a breather yesterday about pronouns.

In response to Elon’s tweet about his pronouns being prosecute/fauci so progressive scold rebuked him with “Pronouns are not a joke!”

There followed the following:

Knock knock
Who’s their/there/they’re

Progressives seem utterly joyless. I suppose because they see themselves as a righteous army paving the way for the progressive future, and in the fight there is no room for slacking off for a laugh or undermining the cause with even light humour.

So now that the right are coming back to Twitter the jokes are flying thick and fast, and progressives who have long sought to intimidate with their angry constipated looks feel they are losing their hold. It is driving them nuts. And makes them even funnier.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 8:24 am

I’ve always taken Salvatore to be an Italian form of Steve/Stephen, so not a big change, but I see Google says it is an Italian variant of Saviour. My bad. But there was at the time comment that we had too many Steves to contend with here – Steve from Brisbane being one of them, and who would want to be identified with him, ffs?

I’ve always enjoyed hearing Sal’s tales from the hotel front in the Deep North.
I take people here on trust pretty much as I find them. As they release more info about themselves, then perceptions can deepen but they rarely change much. That’s just like IRL.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 8:26 am

These misbehaving storm troopers need to realize that they will be struck off Santa’s list, possibly forever.

In Danisbad they have also lost all trust, which is going to make the job harder for the next 50 or so years.

Beertruk
Beertruk
December 15, 2022 8:28 am

Anthony Albanese pushes residents to get off the gas and switch to electricity

He can pissoff and/or get the fuk out of my kitchen.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 8:29 am

Ed Casesays:
December 15, 2022 at 6:26 am
To paraphrase Winston Smith:
All of Catallaxy’s issues would be solved if about 20 commenters headed over to Jo Nova Blog and never returned.

What’s holding you up?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:29 am

Scroll wheel?

A bit retro now. I have a steampunk mouse.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 8:32 am

Never mind, you choice to be misunderstood. I will soldier on with it.

I think the expression is “solder on” Lizzie.
Don’t burn yourself.

Put an ‘r’ in the you for me in that comment and I’ll let you take out the ‘i’ in soldier, Sancho.
Fair exchange.

Even though ladies of my generation do not attempt soldering. We let the men do men’s work.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 15, 2022 8:34 am

I am reliably advised that these things, which are supplied to jacks in every State and Territory by the same company are almost impossible to ‘go flat’ without deliberate intervention ….. ‘Went flat’. Fuck off. In all likelihood it was an ‘oh fuck’ moment, or a ‘make an example of this one’ moment, of which both are equally stupid because prosecutors, defence mouthpieces and the courts also know this.

The judge did say it was ‘curious’ that all 3 AFP Officers had tightly correlated recollections of my guilt – yet my own film showed their recollections to be wrong.

My own assessment is that I was initially just a random stop, but their ‘checks’ showed I was worth making an example of in Canberra, and that required the loss of their vision and the substitution of their own recollections (also known as destroying the evidence of my innocence and manufacturing evidence of my guilt). I believe it was only my own camera evidence that kept me out of jail.

What has happened to my country?

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 15, 2022 8:36 am

In news other than the Train brothers, who’s a naughty girl then:

Royal race row accuser Ngozi Fulani’s charity Sistah Space probed

London authorities are to investigate the finances of the Sistah Space charity run by Ngozi Fulani, the woman who claimed to have been racially violated at a Buckingham Palace function, leading to the resignation of long term aide Lady Susan Hussey.

Several social media posts have highlighted some aspects of Sistah Space accounts since the palace race furore, but one lengthy investigation by “James” in Scotland has resulted in government departments now scrutinising the taxpayer funded grants that have been made to the East London based domestic violence charity.

The Charity Commission is looking into the claims by James who spent more than a week delving into the charity’s finances. He has made serious allegations that the charity has been providing benefits to several close relatives of Ms Fulani and raised questions about whether the monies had been used under the conditions of the grants.

On Wednesday the chairman of the Greater London authority ordered an examination of the charity’s accounts.

Chair of the London Assembly Neil Garratt said on Twitter: ‘These are unproven allegations, but part of this thread mentions two five-figure grants from the GLA which may not have been used as intended. As Chair of the London Assembly Audit Panel, I have spoken to the GLA finance chief this morning and asked them to be looked into.”

The Sister Space charity has received at least nine different grants worth more than £200,000 from public funds and £60,000 from one of the country’s biggest charities, Comic Relief.

The Comic Relief grant was for internet training to allow the charity to reach even more women.

In regards to the Greater London Authority, the charity received £12,000 to run a poll but it used a free online survey which allegedly costs a fraction of that.

The second grant, worth £40,000, given to the charity in 2020 was allegedly given to an organisation using Sister Space’s charity number, but it had a different name, Royal Dock.

Some of the concerns raised by others looking into the charity’s accounts have been that the Trustee annual reports were signed off by a senior trust member, and not an independent examiner.

Ms Fulani has had several names – Ngozi Headley; Ngozi Headley-Fulani; Marlene Headley; Marlene Fulani; Mary Headley; Mary Fulani; Mary Headley-Fulani; or Sister Ngozi throughout the existence of the charity which was set up in 2015 to assist domestic violence victims of African or Caribbean descent.

Social media users have pointed out that the charity has shown an extraordinary increase in administrative expenses in the accounts which had been filed.

Ms Fulani said last week that the charity was being paused because of the public reaction.

The interest in the charity comes after Ms Fulani previously posted on social media the encounter with Lady Susan at a palace reception, saying Lady Susan had repeatedly asked where she “really” was from, and that Lady Susan had touched her hair which was “racial abuse” and cultural inappropriate.

Lady Susan, 83, who had been with Queen Elizabeth for 60 years, immediately stood down from her position assisting Queen Camilla and offered an apology.

Oz

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:36 am

Anthony Albanese pushes residents to get off the gas and switch to electricity

He can pissoff and/or get the fuk out of my kitchen.

You suspect Karl Marx didn’t like awake at night wondering how he was going to use his wok.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 8:36 am

JCsays:
December 15, 2022 at 7:39 am
Mark my words This is going to be a very short lived government.

Against all my better judgement I’ve bookmarked that one to flog you with JC…
I don’t know the formula which has let a proudly tyrannical government like Andrews’ Victoria win back office despite the head-to-toe corruption, nepotism, despotism and cronyism, but I suspect it’s largely through surrounding the Capo with a halo of sugar- soft and squishy bubblegum boasts with the LGBTIQs and moozies and minors- and simply not answering hard questions. Owning the unions, police and judiciary also helps no end.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 15, 2022 8:37 am

JC:
The libs were chucked out at the last election, but other than the Car folks I didn’t sense lots of hatred and outrage against them in punterville.

JC, the other half does a fair bit of travelling and didn’t come across anyone, either at work, or about, who had anything good to say about the Libs. As for Scummo, it was palpable. I’m happy to say it was our position as well.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 8:39 am

Indolent how about you give up trumpeting the death notices for obscure members of the media and entertainment industry?
They are sad but we don’t need to read hot takes from vultures about every premature death in those particular industries.

Stephen “tWitch” Boss has died from suicide at age 40.

JMH
JMH
December 15, 2022 8:40 am

alwaysrightsays:
December 15, 2022 at 8:26 am
In Danisbad they have also lost all trust, which is going to make the job harder for the next 50 or so years.

“Danisbad”. Brilliant and clever, alwaysright.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 8:43 am

Sounds like the Fulani Headley Family Charity.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 15, 2022 8:46 am

Plus, the base reality is that boofheaded market interventions is what the punters elect a Trotskyite government to do.
Luigi Albanese could schedule regular alternating announcements which bankrupt businesses and then subsidize startups, and the differential will generate nothing but fellating praise. Plus he’s heading to work with an incoming NSW Labor who will nationalise everything, so there’s a few years of flouro vests, ribbon cutting and job creation announcements to feed off of.

will
will
December 15, 2022 8:47 am

The judge did say it was ‘curious’ that all 3 AFP Officers had tightly correlated recollections of my guilt – yet my own film showed their recollections to be wrong.

Commendable.

I know a barrister when I lived in Canberra, who advised that in one case, he clearly demonstrated that the jack was lying on the stand under oath, and the judge just ignored it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 8:47 am

Tomsays:
December 15, 2022 at 8:01 am
Energy collapse: it all begins with a market cap

Thousands of years of experience – from the ancient Babylonians and Roman Emperor Diocletian, through to modern times – have demonstrated how price controls prevent the allocation of scarce goods to their most valuable uses, lower short-term production, and cause investment to seize up.

The inevitability of such outcomes is lost on Australia’s political class.

Would it not have been simpler for the states to lower royalties on coal and gas?

Sorry, silly question, not many extra bureaucratic jobs in that!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:50 am

For people concerned that the Socialists will come for their stoves my Instagram algorithms throw up a wok burner by Nationwide Electrical that looks OK. Maybe lay down a few gas bottles too.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 8:51 am

Any suggestions on the fastest way to learn Russian? Serious question!

Go live in Russia.

Good luck!

Seriously, the fastest way is to be around native speakers and use it all the time.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 8:52 am

Just read back thread, and see I got Sal confused with Struth when looking at the crazy levels of argumentation via blockquotes of blockquotes occurring recently on the Cat and putting people off coming here.

Sorry about that.

Struth was once reasonable in his assessments and fun to interact with. No more though. Sometimes a glimmer of the old Struth emerges, but it is rare. Covid has sent more than a few people to the Dark Side. I find that sad.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 15, 2022 8:53 am

Darwin suburb store does a San Fransisco:

A new Nightcliff business is locking its doors during trading hours thanks to a spike in anti-social behaviour in the Territory.

Porkin Small Goods and Coffee co-owners Manfred Mletsin and Ryan Hamilton said NT Police were “short-staffed”so they had to take the store’s protection into their own hands.

“We’re now locking the door in our trading hours, so customers have to ring a bell to get inside the venue,” Mr Hamilton said.

“That’s just for the safety of our staff.”

Mr Mletsin said the store also engaged Neptune NT Security Services on a trial period to deter anti-social behaviour.

“That particular night, it was kind of chaotic as well, but having him there, it made a difference,” Mr Mletsin said.

“He would just turn people away, people would listen to him.”

NT Police recorded 3069 commercial break-ins between October 2021 and September 2022, up 53.76 per cent since last year.

NT News

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 8:54 am

Wali, Cass

They lost the election , which obviously means folks were upset with them. But as I said , I feel punterville had no deep hatred of them.

This government aren’t going to hold for long. Their support isn’t deep and every decision is a huge mistake.

You guys aren’t the average punter.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 8:54 am

all 3 AFP Officers had tightly correlated recollections of my guilt

If it’s too tightly correlated, right down to minutiae, that’s a big old red flag right there.

Show the same series of events to – for example – three people, then get them to write what happened during said events and you should get the same thing back – in general terms. Significant things, like who was wearing what, who had what and in which hand, and so on.

However, you’ll get differences in the little things. Exact words used while people are yelling at each other, who was punched or hit with something and where during a scrap.

If everything’s too tight it screams collusion. This is also known by the courts, and it undoubtedly helped – along with duk’s own footage, of course – to discredit these amateurish flogs.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 8:55 am

Wally.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 8:57 am

With Brittany having her hand out for $3m does anyone not expect the actual payout to be leaked at some point?

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 8:57 am

As for Scummo, it was palpable.

His performance at the RC into robodebt reveals he’s learned nothing.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 15, 2022 8:59 am

can one of our resident engineers tell us the percentage of energy loss when converting gas to electricity.
I’m guessing that it is about 40%

If you use the gas in a combined cycle plant you’ll lose 40%. If you use a simple gas turbine (usually used for peaking) you’ll lose 65 to 70 % of the energy. Another dumb idea from the Greenies and their captives.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 9:01 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
December 15, 2022 at 8:22 am
“As Neil Oliver said, ‘Its not about going green, its about going without…’”

without power, without food.

It isn’t just that we will own nothing, will have nothing to keep us warm and we will have nothing to eat. We’re being told to eat bugs, I presume the idea is that the bugs will be raw?

One of the early benefits of the “eat bugs” regime will be greater control of the number of rabbits in Australia.

Soon to be followed by pigeons, feral cats, dogs, pigs, deer, goats etc. Then other native and domesticated species will start to reduce in numbers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 9:02 am

People complain about having to scroll, and I suspect it is the longer comments that get scrolled the most. The influence of Twitter on blogging? I do it myself at times, scroll long stuff – I didn’t read all of the debate between Dover and John H on subjective realities, for instance, just some of it to get the gist of what they were on about.

Pithy soundbites are fun, but they are not the whole of serious blogging.

Just a thought.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 9:04 am

This government aren’t going to hold for long. Their support isn’t deep and every decision is a huge mistake.

For a government elected on 32% of the primary vote they’ve got tickets on themselves.

Crossie
Crossie
December 15, 2022 9:04 am

My own assessment is that I was initially just a random stop, but their ‘checks’ showed I was worth making an example of in Canberra, and that required the loss of their vision and the substitution of their own recollections (also known as destroying the evidence of my innocence and manufacturing evidence of my guilt). I believe it was only my own camera evidence that kept me out of jail.

What has happened to my country?

Flyingduk, it’s not our country, it’s their ACT. Miasma from the Lake Burley Griffin changes them all. We should lobby for government by zoom.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 9:05 am

One other thing. The real point I was making is that governments lose elections and these morons are only just starting out.

Watch things like the NDIS blow the country out of the water.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 9:07 am

One of the early benefits of the “eat bugs” regime will be greater control of the number of rabbits in Australia.

Run, Rabbit, Run.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 9:07 am

Dentist………………aaaargggh.

JC
JC
December 15, 2022 9:08 am

For a government elected on 32% of the primary vote they’ve got tickets on themselves.

You betcha . They’re multiples worse than the Rudd/lying slapper combo.

mem
mem
December 15, 2022 9:08 am

Presumably Albo didn’t get the memo
The European Commission has decided that power plants burning natural gas can be considered generators of green energy. This means they can count as sustainable investments along with nuclear power. The commission’s technical rules on sustainable finance classify a list of sustainable economic activities in the EU.
July 6th 2022 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/06/europe-natural-gas-nuclear-are-green-energy-in-some-circumstances-.html

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 9:08 am

A man travelling by plane and in urgent need to use the men’s room is nervously tapping his foot on the floor of the aircraft. Each time he tried the men’s room door, it was “OCCUPIED”.

The stewardess, aware of his predicament suggested that he go ahead and use the ladies room, but cautioned him against using any of the buttons inside. The buttons were marked “WW, WA, PP and ATR”.

Making the mistake that so many men make in disregarding the importance of what a woman says, the man let his curiosity get the best of him and decided to try the buttons anyway. He carefully pressed the first button marked “WW” and immediately warm water sprayed all over his entire bottom. He thought “WOW, the women really have it made!” Still curious, he pressed the button marked “WA” and a gentle breeze of warm air quickly dried his hind quarters. He thought that was out of this world! The button marked “PP” yielded a large powder puff which delicately applied a soft talc to his rear. Well, naturally he couldn’t resist the last button marked “ATR”. When he woke up in the hospital he panicked and buzzed for the nurse.

When she appeared, he cried out “What happened to me?! The last thing I remember is I was in the ladies room on a business trip!”

The nurse replied “Yes, you were having a great time until you pressed the “ATR” button which stands for Automatic Tampon Remover… Your penis is under your pillow!”

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 9:09 am

When I was young I thought that money was the most important thing in life; now that I am old I know that it is.

– Oscar Wilde

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 9:11 am

memsays:
December 15, 2022 at 9:08 am
Presumably Albo didn’t get the memo
The European Commission has decided that power plants burning natural gas can be considered generators of green energy. This means they can count as sustainable investments along with nuclear power. The commission’s technical rules on sustainable finance classify a list of sustainable economic activities in the EU.
July 6th 2022 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/06/europe-natural-gas-nuclear-are-green-energy-in-some-circumstances-.html

Yes but Elbow is beholden to the Greens and the Teals.

Crossie
Crossie
December 15, 2022 9:13 am

… Andrews’ Victoria win back office despite the head-to-toe corruption, nepotism, despotism and cronyism, but I suspect it’s largely through surrounding the Capo with a halo of sugar- soft and squishy bubblegum boasts with the LGBTIQs and moozies and minors- and simply not answering hard questions. Owning the unions, police and judiciary also helps no end.

It also helps that they have driven all reasonable and conservative voters out of the state.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 9:16 am

He can pissoff and/or get the fuk out of my kitchen.

Try running through scenarios to imagine how Albo became so ‘fired up’ on this.

Can it be that he is familiar with the facts and the figures? Science? Albo? I think we can dismiss that one.

Can it be that he has had some panel looking into whether this is actually doable for ordinary people for whom any remodeling will cost money? I can’t imagine him even conceiving such a thing.

Perhaps another panel that has taken a sober look at what impact this will have on the power grid, already creaking and groaning under existing stress, and we are already been prepared for black outs due to lack of reliable power. Damn those number-ey things!

Or how about this: Some 20-something staffer saw something on Twitter (or Fakebook or Instagram or whatever), thought it was a good idea (perhaps writing it down on a drinks coaster – as much risk assessment as the idea will ever see), told it to the other staffers, who tell their boss that they reckon saying this will look good.

Now that last one seems to gel pretty much with how we know Labor politicians work.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 9:22 am

Some beta at Wikipedia took offence to my war against David Elliot MP.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 9:24 am

ML

Some 20-something staffer saw something on Twitter (or Fakebook or Instagram or whatever), thought it was a good idea (perhaps writing it down on a drinks coaster

I can understand that 20-something family members or maaaaates might be hired as “advisors”. What I cannot understand that those who hired them actually listen to them.

See also Mizzz Knickerless.

Vagabond
Vagabond
December 15, 2022 9:25 am

For a government elected on 32% of the primary vote they’ve got tickets on themselves.

They didn’t really only get 33%. The Green slime are the old socialist left of the liars (plus gullible greenies) and any estimate of the liars vote needs to be added to the slime vote to be realistic. The liars love the slime, they have learnt from the coalition/DLP split of the 50s and 60s that kept them out of power for 23 years. The preferential voting system we have has allowed rebranding of the extreme wing of the liars which had the advantage of making them look superficially more centrist and harvested the really crazy vote to and resulted in additional 2pp preferred vote.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 15, 2022 9:26 am

“Even I realised that money was to politicians what the Eucalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter, and something to crap on.”
P. J. O’Rourke

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 9:28 am

Now that last one seems to gel pretty much with how we know Labor politicians work.

Don’t underestimate him.

This was not a brain fart courtesy a staffer.

As I’ve previously written here, his budget included funds for activists to conduct lawfare against new gas developments.

They are also legislating to effectively cancel any fracking approval the NT govcernment grants.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 9:31 am

The liars love the slime…

Labor fears the Greens.

How that works out for the country can go either way.

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 9:33 am

The preferential voting system we have has allowed rebranding of the extreme wing of the liars which had the advantage of making them look superficially more centrist

Yes, the lazy SFL’s have allowed the filth to redefine the centre much to the left, then doubled down on their stupidity by racing headlong into the trap of moving further left so as to appear centre/right. In so doing abandoning all conservative causes and conviction.

Dumb as a bag of rocks.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 9:34 am

Another dumb idea from the Greenies and their captives.

The Greens and greenies consider a less efficient system beneficial because it means less output, which means people will be forced to live closer to the Greens/greenies impoverished ideal.

When men and women spend their days sitting inertly in dilapidated grey rooms, staring blankly at blank walls, unspeaking, giving a stronger impression of un-life than a corpse – then, the Greens will know they have done Great God Gaia’s work.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 15, 2022 9:34 am

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican who easily secured reelection last month, is petitioning the Sunshine State’s supreme court for an order to impanel a statewide grand jury to probe any wrongdoing pertaining to COVID-19 vaccines.

“Florida law prohibits fraudulent practices, including the dissemination of false or misleading advertisements of a drug and the use of any representation or suggestion in any advertisement relating to a drug that an application of a drug is effective when it is not,” the governor’s petition states.

“The pharmaceutical industry has a notorious history of misleading the public for financial gain.

https://www.conservativereview.com/florida-gov-ron-desantis-seeks-grand-jury-to-probe-any-wrongdoing-related-to-covid-19-vaccines-2658960868.html?utm_source=cr-weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CR%20Weekly%202022-12-14&utm_term=ACTIVE%20-%20Weekly%20Daily%20Combined

Crossie
Crossie
December 15, 2022 9:35 am

Porkin Small Goods and Coffee co-owners Manfred Mletsin and Ryan Hamilton said NT Police were “short-staffed”so they had to take the store’s protection into their own hands.

A government that is “short-staffed” to protect its taxpayers and residents is no longer a legitimate government. From that point on it becomes a crime organisation conspiring with thieves and violent elements who attack the rest of the people.

Could it be that the police are “short-staffed” because they have driven off all the good officers thus depressing new recruitment? Once again, an indication of an illegitimate government that nobody wants to join.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 15, 2022 9:42 am

When will we ever learn. NO jab jab booster.

Journal of Medical Ethics Published Online First: 05 December 2022. doi: 10.1136/jme-2022-108449

This group found the risks of COVID-19 vaccination, including serious adverse events (life threatening, hospitalization, and death) and myocarditis far outweigh any theoretical benefits. If Bardosh would have considered the two prospective cohort studies by Mansanguan and Le Pessec, the myocarditis rates would have been sharply adjusted up to 25,000 cases per million. Additionally, since no prospective, randomized placebo-controlled trial has demonstrated reductions in COVID-19 hospitalization and death as a primary or secondary endpoint, that theoretic benefit of vaccination could have been dropped to zero.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 9:45 am

It also helps that they have driven all reasonable and conservative voters out of the state.

I don’t think so.
What was the total of the covid exodus, 40,000? and all four I know that left for QLD are progressive voters.
More likely the demographic shift in Victoria is driven by immigration.
Box Hill used to be solid middle class, now it’s a Chinese enclave with towering apartment blocks; unrecognisable from the 1970s/80s .
I went into the Commonwealth Bank there yesterday, could have just as easily been in Hong Kong.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 9:50 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 15, 2022 9:51 am

One of the early benefits of the “eat bugs” regime will be greater control of the number of rabbits in Australia.

Soon to be followed by pigeons, feral cats, dogs, pigs, deer, goats etc. Then other native and domesticated species will start to reduce in numbers.

We will extinguish the minifauna.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 9:54 am

Stephen “tWitch” Boss, the longtime and beloved dancing DJ on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, has died at the age of 40.

Posted without comment. Don’t really need one at this point.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 9:54 am

I see The Guardian is making hay with the beliefs of the Train brothers’ father:

God and guns: the strict religious upbringing of the Wieambilla shooters

Because, hey…the Bible is full of commands to “kill the pigs”, don’t you know?

I look forward to their exposé of the Quranic teachings on jihad bis saif after the next Muslim terror attack.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 9:55 am

What I cannot understand that those who hired them actually listen to them.

I suppose they are cheaper and easier to come by than experienced people, they don’t have any challenging insights, but also because it maintains the bubble they are in.

Our politicians have no idea about what matters to Australians. Imagine if voting was not compulsory, think of what politicians would actually have to do to win. They would have to listen to voters concerns and deliver. They would have to be fighters.

Now, compare that to what we now have – like spineless blobs in the sea, anchored under a rock in the dark, knowing nothing but the occasional urging of the current this way or the other, in their own tiny little protected recess.

Only difference is that, even if given a couple of billion years, that they will evolve into anything much more.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 9:55 am

I’m not surprised ring to enter is being used, even if police are fully staffed what use are they to shopkeepers fending off shoplifters and trouble makers, especially if they adopt the swarming method.
One of my old retail neighbours started locking the door after being robbed at knife point, after that it was always knock to enter.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 9:57 am

don’t know the formula which has let a proudly tyrannical government like Andrews’ Victoria win back office despite the head-to-toe corruption, nepotism, despotism and cronyism

Stick your creatures at the head of every state body.
Said creatures whittles away the uncompliant and promotes and rewards the subservient.
And employ nearly 1/2 the people in the state onto the public payroll, with a leavening of pensioners/DSP/ Mediterranean backs and other public teat tuggers and you cant fail.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 9:57 am

Indolentsays:
December 15, 2022 at 6:36 am
When Did Congress Vote To Go To War With Russia?

The unstated but obvious U.S. objective is to supplant Russia as the provider of energy feedstock to Western Europe. This explains why the United States has resisted diplomatic off-ramps and why it appears to be the party most likely responsible for the sabotage of Nord Stream pipeline.

We need to pull ourselves back from the brink here, and soon, before it is too late.

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
December 15, 2022 9:58 am

So I guess we won’t be seeing Albo turning the sausages at any more charity bbq’s if the fire is being fueled by the debil, debil gas. Every cloud, as they say..

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 9:58 am

Grant died from the rupture of a slowly growing, undetected ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium,” she wrote on her husband’s website.

“The chest pressure he experienced shortly before his death may have represented the initial symptoms.

“No amount of CPR or shocks would have saved him. His death was unrelated to COVID. His death was unrelated to vaccination status. There was nothing nefarious about his death.”

Yuhuh. She’s a Ukraine-flag-in-bio type. The Message must be defended at all costs!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 9:59 am

Canadian Research Group Finds Unvaccinated People More Likely to Have Severe Car Accidents – Paving Way for Insurance Rate Hikes for Unvaccinated

Sarah Hoyt over at Instapundit takes this one to the cleaners with both barrels.

This isn’t science. It’s clown world. (14 Dec)

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 15, 2022 10:04 am

I don’t know a teacher that doesn’t have one, but I guess it’s possible.

I’m a teacher and I don’t do faecesbook, twatter, insta, snapchat, tik tok or any other anti-social media.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:10 am

Ronald Train must have been very upset over the marriage breakup to have been out of contact for over two decades.
He has written about the subject of divorce in his book ‘Protestant Shame’.
Sounds like Gareth had issues as a teen.
I’m not buying parental responsibility for the acts of adults in their 40s.
If parents of mature adult children are responsible for their acts, then the Guardian should tear apart the lives of all such, not just free Baptists.
What about the parents of Paul Denyer, John Bunting, Paul Wagner, John Wayne Glover?

mem
mem
December 15, 2022 10:11 am

So how will South Australia, the so-called poster state for renewable energy, keep its electricity flowing when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining? If it wasn’t for gas it would have to import 100% of energy from Victoria on many days. And when they take out Vic’s brown coal-fired generators, there just won’t be enough energy to power both states. There are many times when both SA and Vic are in a wind doldrum for days and weeks at a time as happened earlier this year.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 10:15 am

Grant died from the rupture of a slowly growing, undetected ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium,” she wrote on her husband’s website.

How did the aneurysm come about?

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:17 am

Pre covid no-one ever died out of the blue of an aneurysm.
Except when they did.
I know of two, one a young man aged twenty, aortic aneurysm and the other in her early fifties, brain aneurysm, one six years ago the other about ten.
Grant Wahl’s gay brother was convinced he’d been murdered by the Quataris for his stance on lgbt rights so the family had him autopsied in New York.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 15, 2022 10:18 am

Oh come onsays:

December 15, 2022 at 9:54 am

Stephen “tWitch” Boss, the longtime and beloved dancing DJ on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, has died at the age of 40.

Posted without comment. Don’t really need one at this point.

Died from the shot.
(The 12 gauge shot, that is).

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:21 am

With rubber boats overladen with the desperate, the gullible and in the case of parents with children – the reckless, attempting to cross the Channel everyday, I note Rishi Sunak is replicating Abbot’s illegal boat arrival policies:

Boat arrivals will never be settled in the UK & will be returned whence they came after being processed in Rwanda.

Two cheers for democracy!

(That both Sunak & his Home Secretary are brown-skinned means it’s not so easy for progressives to play the “racist” card.)

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:21 am

In older men mostly smoking, iirc the young man of my acquaintance was probably born with it.
aortic aneurysm

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 10:22 am

…and – you can set your watch to it – Rosie runs interference for the mad vaxxers. A very reliable footsoldier, she is.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 10:22 am

A super-hot chick walks into her church and says to the priest “Forgive me Father, for I have sinned”. The priest says “Tell me dear, what’s on your mind?” “Well Father, I am a sex addict, and lately I discovered that I like doing it with priests. I had sex with the one from the church two blocks from here, the one five blocks from here, and also the one from the church nearby”. The priest says “It’s okay, just pray three times a day for one week and it will all be okay”. As the girl tries to go out, the priest says “Oh, and don’t forget that I will always be here for you!”

A woman went to her psychiatrist because she was having severe problems with her sex life. The psychiatrist asked her many questions but did not seem to be getting a clear picture of her problems. Finally he asked “Do you ever watch your husband’s face while you are having sex?” “Well, yes, I did once”. “Well, how did he look?” “Very angry”. At this point the psychiatrist felt that he was really getting somewhere and he said “Well that’s very interesting, we must look into this further. Now tell me, you say that you have only seen your husband’s face once during sex… that seems somewhat… unusual. How did it occur that you saw his face that time?” “He was looking through the window”.

A blonde walked into a doctor’s office with two burnt ears. The doctor asked her “What happened to your ear?” The blonde replied “I was ironing and the phone rang, so instead of picking up the phone, I picked up the iron and put it to my ear. Still not satisfied, the doctor asked “Well, what happened to the other ear?” “The bastard called again!”

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 10:24 am

The most important thing is to enjoy your life – to be happy – it’s all that matters.

– Audrey Hepburn

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 10:24 am

Sorry Lizzie – Scroll quickly

The AFR View

Labor’s true spots are now on show

The verbal battering of the gas companies means business now surely has the measure of the business-unfriendly way the Albanese government does politics.

While Anthony Albanese tried to present a pro-business face to the Australian people before the federal election, eight months after coming to office, Labor’s true spots are now on show.

First, there was the retro industry-wide pattern bargaining workplace shake-up the Albanese government sprang on business at its jobs summit stitch-up in September – which excluded most CEOs, who actually create jobs, from the guest list.

Dressed up as a way to get wages moving again but without doing anything meaningful to boost productivity, it showed Labor is still controlled by its union movement paymasters whose institutional interests were served by forcing the industrial relations bill through parliament before Christmas. That is despite union membership slumping to a new low of just 12.5 per cent of the workforce.

Then Labor floated the idea of breaking its election promise to retain the stage three personal income tax cuts that give back bracket creep, in order to help pay for Labor’s childcare and disability services spending monuments. That is Whitlamesque “nation-building” and not the kind of Hawke/Keating-style economic reform that Mr Albanese said he wanted his government to emulate.

Now comes Labor’s massive intervention into the energy market, which the government has the numbers to ram through both houses of parliament during Thursday’s emergency sitting.

Labor’s approach to energy and climate is generally more rational than the Coalition’s mix of culture war agendas and big-stick interventions. But the Albanese government’s plan, driven by a mix of populist politics and green ideology, for a mandatory code of conduct to force gas to be sold to domestic users at a “reasonable price” is Labor reverting to its worst anti-business, pro-regulation, big-government instincts.

Modern Labor has no sense of Australia’s wealth emanating from its great extractive industries.

The gas industry says it has been blindsided and received no warning that this was on the cards. It rightly warns of sovereign and political risk jeopardising investment in the new gas supply that is needed to sustainably bring down prices and help keep the lights on during the net zero transition.

This has spurred the populist attack launched by Industry Minister Ed Husic, who likens the gas companies’ questioning of Labor’s market-distorting energy plan to Facebook’s pulling of Australian news content from its platform in protest against Australia’s world first media bargaining code.

Demonising gas producers

This is baselessly demonising the gas producers, many of them Australian-owned, that have invested tens of billions of dollars of risk capital – often for low or no returns during periods of low global prices – while developing Australia into an LNG exporting global powerhouse.

It is reminiscent of Kevin Rudd cherry-picking the mining tax from the Henry tax review to confiscate resource “rents” to pay for Labor’s spending promises without implementing any genuine incentive-sharpening tax reform.

It shows that modern Labor has no sense of Australia’s wealth emanating from its great extractive industries, and hence the need to maintain the confidence of international investors in the resources sector that is now propping up the tax base and the value of the Australian dollar, which increases the nation’s purchasing power.

The verbal battering of the gas companies, the overtones of 1970s-style Rex Connor-style resource nationalism, and the “Gregory thesis” kind of hostility towards mining, means business now surely has the measure of the business-unfriendly way the Albanese government does politics.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:24 am

If parents of mature adult children are responsible for their acts, then the Guardian should tear apart the lives of all such, not just free Baptists.

Come on down…Joe Biden!

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 10:26 am

Rosie, no one is saying people don’t die young for various reasons. What is obvious is that there’s clearly a massive increase in the number of people dying young and in certain ways. Every time this is highlighted, you never fail to harrumph about how people have died in such ways and at such ages in the past.

No shit.

You’ve missed – or are deliberately skirting – the point.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:27 am

No oco.
I prefer facts, not stupid relentless blowies circling around every obscure suicide and death by natural causes buzzing
The Vaxx, The Vaxx, The Vaxx.
If nothing else, it’s boring.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 10:28 am

KRudd – Pink bats.
Luigi the inconceivable – Electric bats.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/14/labor-energy-price-cap-plan-to-pass-parliament-greens-deal-gas-transition-electrification-households

Guardian Australia understands the government package will be aimed at low-income households, renters, people in apartments and public housing. It will look to address energy efficiency and cut power bills, including updates to space heating, water heating, and cooking and other household appliances and equipment.

The federal energy minister, Chris Bowen, said the details would be the subject of consultation with science experts, but he indicated the package could include concessional loans to households looking to upgrade with the Clean Energy Finance Corporation to play a role.

“I’m not announcing the package today … inevitably there are some design elements and further work to go,” he said.

Bowen wouldn’t say how much money would be dedicated to the electrification package, but other sources indicated it would run into the many tens or potentially hundreds of millions of dollars – and could include grants or rebates to households.

“For too long, too many people have been barred from making that switch and enjoying those savings because there is an upfront cost associated with that,” Bandt said.

“Our package will help unlock hundreds if not thousands of dollars in savings to the people who need it most and that means more money in people’s pockets to deal with the cost-of-living crisis.”


Bowen welcomed the Greens’ support and criticised the Coalition for holding out. He shrugged off criticisms from gas companies that the price caps would stifle investment or supply.

Mongs gunna mong.

Old and busted, blood and soil
New and hot, gas and soil
“This is Australian gas. It is from Australian soil and Australians have a right to expect they will pay a fair price for that gas,” he said on Wednesday.

“Australian gas should be sold for reasonable and fair prices. While the cap is on, there will still be a market but we’re capping the prices.”

Pocockhead is going to be grift that keeps on giving for the ACT local shire area.

The independent senator from the Australian Capital Territory suggested the government run an electrification pilot program in a suburb in Canberra, and a transition authority to help communities which had traditionally relied on fossil fuel jobs.

“The solution is electrification, the solution is getting on this transition and ensuring that households benefit and small businesses,” he said. “While I will be supporting this package, I want to see a lot more in the way of electrification.”

Pocock also voiced concern at potential compensation for fossil fuel producers, and again called for consideration of a windfall profits tax on coal and gas.

Compensation and energy bill relief should be funded through a windfall profits tax. I wish the government had the courage to ensure Australians could start getting a fair return on the exploitation of the natural resources we own.”

From the famous pocock gas and coal leases he developed and brought into production??

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:29 am

No there isn’t.
Duncanm had a look at the Australian death stats, and it’s not young people dying the excess deaths of dementia, diabetes, heart disease and cancer.

rosie
rosie
December 15, 2022 10:33 am

No there are some changes in deaths in under 65s, but they need investigation not assumptions.

Ms Cutter said while the numbers of deaths in the 0-44 and 45-64 age bands was small, the numbers were materially higher than expected, particularly for females.

“The differences are worth investigation, although the small numbers mean that there is considerable natural variation,” she said.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:36 am

“Compensation and energy bill relief should be funded through a windfall profits tax. I wish the government had the courage to ensure Australians could start getting a fair return on the exploitation of the natural resources we own.”

Sit down, David; I’d like to read you one of Aesop’s fables.

It’s called, ‘The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.’

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 10:37 am

Luigi the inconceivable

Obviously what Dad thought.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 10:40 am

The Vaxx, The Vaxx, The Vaxx.
If nothing else, it’s boring.

How’s the view down there? Sandy, I suppose.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 10:40 am

It needs to be remembered Albo started out as a staffer to Tom Uren who was too left wing for the Whitlam Cabinet. Think about that.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 10:41 am

Knock knock
Who’s their/there/they’re

Could this be Elon calling?

The door [to leave] is always open wide.

Knock knock
Who’s their/there/they’re

Now as Lefty Twitter’s falling,

Break out your Memes, and come insiiiiiiiiiide! 😀

#NotSorry

#NotOneBit

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 10:42 am

Old and busted, blood and soil
New and hot, gas and soil
“This is Australian gas. It is from Australian soil and Australians have a right to expect they will pay a fair price for that gas,” he said on Wednesday.

It belongs to the Crown in respect of each State.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 15, 2022 10:43 am

I know, right? Constant posts about the premature death of someone and how it must be because of the vaxx. Day after day after day! Relentless! BOR-ING!

It never used to be like this before the vaxx came out. What boring idiots these people are.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 10:43 am

Apparently Elon Musk is moving Twitter HQ out of San Francisco.

Instead of escorting ex-employees from the building he is escorting the building somewhere else and leaving the most unpleasant employees to ‘ex’ themselves because they will die anyplace without free-trade-soy-pumpkin-turmeric-lattes or where every little bit of virtue signalling is applauded by a public from The Island of Dr Moreau.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 10:46 am

Boat arrivals will never be settled in the UK & will be returned whence they came after being processed in Rwanda.

Not happening. The courts are totally progressive, and have refused almost all extraditions right up to the HC. After that the ECJ weighs in and the Tories aren’t withdrawing from that court despite it being one of the main causes of Brexit in the first place. Then the Border Force was sprung last month undermining government policy on country shopper boats in the Channel.

Just 0.3 Per Cent of Boat Migrants Arrested Under UK’s New Border Control Laws (12 Dec)

This is just fig-leaf signaling to the extremely annoyed base, and nothing will happen. And the base will walk anyway, because they know they’re being had.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 10:47 am

US struggling to track Ukraine aid – Politico

Washington is seeking technological solutions to the problem of weapons diversion, according to a cable seen by the outlet

The administration of US President Joe Biden is turning to the blockchain and other tech-based solutions amid mounting calls for oversight of over $50 billion in aid pledged to Ukraine this year, according to a State Department cable seen by Politico on Wednesday.

Reportedly signed by the US Ambassador to Kiev, Bridget Brink, on September 6, the nine-page “sensitive but unclassified” document laments that “kinetic activity and active combat between Ukrainian and Russian forces creates an environment in which standard verification measures are sometimes impracticable or impossible.”

The State Department declined to comment on the document’s contents, merely stating that it “takes very seriously our responsibility to ensure appropriate oversight of all US assistance.”

Washington’s options for imposing order on uncontrollable spending in Ukraine reportedly include “a commercial smartphone app that uploads all photo and video media onto a blockchain at the point of capture,” delegating equipment inspections to the Ukrainian military in the absence of Western contractors willing to work in “high-risk” areas, and requiring photographic proof that aid has been received, especially in “hard to reach areas.” The use of management consultants to “review [and] identify gaps” in oversight was also recommended.

With members of both parties demanding stricter oversight of taxpayer funding to Kiev, Washington is reportedly assembling a dedicated program focused solely on overseeing aid to Ukraine under the heading MEASURE (Monitoring, Evaluation and Audit Services for Ukraine Reporting). This will apparently operate alongside the many inspectors general tasked with overseeing aid spending for the Pentagon, State Department, USAID and other agencies.

Politico’s cable sets out a March timeline for MEASURE’s launch, with a three-year contract.

Earlier this month, Nigerian president, Muhammadu Buhari, alerted other regional leaders that western weapons earmarked for Ukraine had reportedly surfaced in the hands of militant groups in the African Sahel. Interpol head Jurgen Stock has warned as far back as June that weapons sent to Ukraine would likely “be trafficked not only to neighboring countries but to other continents.”

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 15, 2022 10:48 am

Based on what the ALP have legislated the ultimate outcome has to be the nationalisation of the GAS industry. With so many sovereign risks and control of prices in the legislation why would you continue to explore and deliver gas? Eventually GAS explorers and producers will be asking for the government/s to buy them out.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:49 am

Luigi the inconceivable

Obviously what Dad thought.

I’m taking a break while my keyboard dries out.

local oaf
December 15, 2022 10:51 am

mem says:
December 15, 2022 at 10:11 am

So how will South Australia, the so-called poster state for renewable energy, keep its electricity flowing when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining?

Looks like we’re going to find out soon.

Many thanks to the stupid rural “conservative” independents who first gifted South Australia to Labor, then kept it in power long enough to blow up Port Augusta. 16 years of Labor, now the state is fucked.

We Croweaters laughed at the outrage of the eastern staters when Windsor & Oakeshott handed the federal govt to Gillard, we’d been living in that sort of democracy for 8 years already.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 10:51 am

Apparently Elon Musk is moving Twitter HQ out of San Francisco.

I recommend someplace far far away from the FBI, DOJ and the Democrats. Maybe Kazakhstan.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 10:52 am

As far as Luigi the Incomprehensible and His Gassy Baggers’ New! and Brilliant! focus group-derived ideas about how and what to do with Natural Gas go, he could have done the inarguably one smart thing* that Colin Barnett did over here.

Which was to arrange with gas explorers and producers that a given percentage of all production is diverted exclusively for WA domestic use.

It is the sleight of hand that Emperor Markus Sneakerus I is relying on to keep his statue’s codpiece spinning when the coal fires finally go out in Kwinana and Worsley in 2030 (assuming the ashy Brazilian shit he’s importing at the moment doesn’t choke the grates to death first!), and all the Big Batteries go flat…

* There were actually a few, but the rusted on Laborites here can’t disparage that one without exposing the utter bankruptcy of The Green Dream.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:54 am

Not happening. The courts are totally progressive, and have refused almost all extraditions right up to the HC.

The battle has been joined, Bruce.

A boat capsized & sank last night.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 15, 2022 10:55 am

ecause they will die anyplace without free-trade-soy-pumpkin-turmeric-lattes or where every little bit of virtue signalling is applauded by a public from The Island of Dr Moreau.

They may end up sing hosannahs of joy.

SFO is a total shithole, the housing is incredibly expensive, when Mrs D’s aunt sold up a year ago they stupider than Sydney prices, and because a lot is rent controlled, rents are stupid high.

I hope it moves it to Texas, the employees will be so much happier … the final of Babylon Bees Californians move to Texas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmT60tS2f4 (sorry if it has been posted before)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 15, 2022 10:56 am

JPM: “For countries that see CPI exceed 5%, it takes around 10 years for CPI to fall back to 2%.”

FOMC Preview: Boil The Frogs Slower

Here’s the full context of that JPM comment from “Thoughts on the Terminal Rate”

The Fed typically will hike until Fed Funds exceeds CPI, which intersect in May 2023, should our Fed and CPI forecasts prove correct. Should CPI prove a bit more stubborn than forecast, could we see the Fed continue with a series of 25bps hikes beyond the March meeting? Conversations with our EM client base reveal views that Fed Funds likely needs to reach the 6 – 7% range. Why? For DM countries that see CPI exceed 5%, it takes ~10 years for CPI to fall back to 2%. A higher terminal rate than 5% has been mentioned in recent Fedspeak by Evans and Williams last week.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 10:57 am

US struggling to track Ukraine aid – Politico

LOL from lefty Politico. The Republicans have been trying to get an auditor general assigned and the Dems have resisted tooth and nail. Which says exactly everything you need said. The FTX thing was a giant money laundering operation designed to get taxpayer dosh to the Dems for the mid terms via Ukraine. Which is of course why they got SBF arrested one day before testifying to Congress.

Pogria
Pogria
December 15, 2022 10:57 am

50 new Memes I haven’t seen before.
Scroll down a bit if they don’t show up straight away. There are some excellent ones.
Enjoy.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 10:58 am

Which was to arrange with gas explorers and producers that a given percentage of all production is diverted exclusively for WA domestic use.

Rex, as I understand it, when the export contracts were signed Ian McFarlane was the Federal minister responsible and he rejected a domestic reservation policy.

struth
struth
December 15, 2022 11:02 am

That’s why rosie is evil ..

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 11:07 am

So how will South Australia, the so-called poster state for renewable energy, keep its electricity flowing when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining?

There’s always this option.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 11:07 am

Hi Struth!

Still alive! 😀

I wouldn’t recommend coming to sort me out, however- My tainted blood will probably turn you into a Were-Unionist.

I’m not sure Mrs Struth nor the neighbours would appreciate the stillness of the moors being shattered by the haunting Solidarity Forever!s of the damned…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 11:08 am

Rex, as I understand it, when the export contracts were signed Ian McFarlane was the Federal minister responsible and he rejected a domestic reservation policy.

What a goose that man was…

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 11:08 am

JPM: “For countries that see CPI exceed 5%, it takes around 10 years for CPI to fall back to 2%.”

Which is a rate of change measure. So if CPI goes to zero, it means prices have settled at the new HIGHER level than the preceding period. In other words, if your income hasn’t kept up you have fallen behind . And with CPI now at say zero , that removes any index support for bargaining.

Open discussion now of the Fed considering increasing their inflation target from 2-3 is %. Lol. A whole new world.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 11:09 am

the inarguably one smart thing* that Colin Barnett did over here.

I think it was actually the relatively short lived Carpenter government. Both Western Power and Alcoa had long term take-or-pay contracts for NWS gas and DBNGP pipeline capacity to get the whole thing off the ground. Western Power had gas in excess of operational requirements for years under the contracts, particularly when Collie and Muja were up and running.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 15, 2022 11:10 am

How did the aneurysm come about?

Traitors.

It’s always traitors.

And it’s traitors all the way down.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 11:11 am

Did the guy die because he was vaccinated or because the aneurism was pre-existing? Did the guy die of the vaccine or because he topped himself?

If lies are being treated as truth, who will speak up for the truth? And if they do, and it is the truth, why the disparagement of the truth teller?

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 15, 2022 11:13 am

I recommend someplace far far away from the FBI, DOJ and the Democrats. Maybe Kazakhstan

Not far enough, Bruce. Plenty of weird anti-Russia activity happening there sponsored by NGOs. It seems like only Russia will do nowadays.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 11:14 am

The East Coast gas market was probably finished (at least from a pricing point of view) once Gladstone opened. I don’t really know much about it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 11:16 am

I think it was actually the relatively short lived Carpenter government.

Thanks, HB.

A prudent move, regardless of who actually did it.

As I understand it, the Kwinana Power Station is a triple-fired design. So it can work off coal, oil or gas as availability (price) dictates.

Not that you’ll ever see a decent oil price here without a proper and concerted effort at domestic offshore production and refining again. And maybe convincing the oil merchants here not to peg their prices to the Singapore Crude market.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 11:17 am

Rosie is on a hiding to nothing here. She has taken it upon herself to research every claim that is dropped willy nilly onto the blog that supports the obvious groupthink. And comments on some of it.

If you don’t like your little comfy lie-bubbles burst, then you’re all more fragile than you think.

Roger
Roger
December 15, 2022 11:17 am

Rex, as I understand it, when the export contracts were signed Ian McFarlane was the Federal minister responsible and he rejected a domestic reservation policy.

What a goose that man was…

There’s been talk of domestic reservation up here as new fields are opened up.

Oh, wait…Albanese & Co. will be doing their darnedest to prevent that happening.

m0nty
December 15, 2022 11:17 am

Rosie, no one is saying people don’t die young for various reasons. What is obvious is that there’s clearly a massive increase in the number of people dying young and in certain ways. Every time this is highlighted, you never fail to harrumph about how people have died in such ways and at such ages in the past.

These cherries I am picking, their juiciness proves that every fruit is a cherry! How can this sweet, sweet taste be wrong?

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 11:20 am

·

Dec 14
Biden: “We need to challenge the hundreds of callous, cynical laws … targeting transgender children … criminalizing doctors, who give children the care they need.”

That WH shindig Biden hosted for the kiddies and drag queen playtime seems to have got old pervs sap running. Dr Jill complicit in removing obstacles for the groomers too I suspect. Focusing Biden’s goldfish like memory on the really important stuff.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
December 15, 2022 11:21 am

Typical of the Grauniad to blame it all on the Train brothers’ evil religious upbringing.
Former Fairfax and the ABC are censoring the inconvenient fact that they were rabidly anti-Catholic and given to frothing about a Jesuit world order.

That probably won’t stop Milligan from telling us that it was all a Vatican-CIA-Mossad conspiracy orchestrated by George Pell.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 11:23 am

local oaf

Looks like we’re going to find out soon.

It won’t just be Mainland Tasmania, although they will be one of the hardest hit if the NEM collapses into a State based beggar-thy-neighbour approach, which I wouldn’t rule out.

bespoke
bespoke
December 15, 2022 11:27 am

Even though ladies of my generation do not attempt soldering. We let the men do men’s work.

My wifes grandmother would strongly disagree, worked long hours under shit conditions supporting the war effort in factorie production lines. But I guess thay aren’t part of the feminist ‘literati’ so there contributions still remain under appreciated.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 11:27 am

Boat arrivals will never be settled in the UK & will be returned whence they came after being processed in Rwanda.

Not going to happen.
Just more tough talk for the morons to vote for the Conservative party.

From June

Plan to reverse European Court Rwanda rulings

Unveiling the plans, Mr Raab confirmed the government would not quit the European Convention on Human Rights,

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 11:30 am

Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Washington Post CEO just announced massive layoffs as the publication HEMORRHAGES subscribers. 500K lost THIS YEAR.

Listen to the screaming of DNC activists masquerading as “reporters” as they learn their derivative, hive-minded herd animal throne sniffing actually loses money:

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1603091145634062338

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 11:30 am

WA should really have no power issues as Collie coal is unstable and there is really no alternative use but burning it on the spot. Presumably roof top solar killed the economics some time ago.

dopey
dopey
December 15, 2022 11:34 am

Pocock wants electrification. I’ll pay his fare to Alabama.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 11:37 am

Mother Lodesays:
December 15, 2022 at 9:34 am
Another dumb idea from the Greenies and their captives.

The Greens and greenies consider a less efficient system beneficial because it means less output, which means people will be forced to live closer to the Greens/greenies impoverished ideal.

An ideal which the Slime/greenies (and the Liars) have absolutely no intention of applying to themselves.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 11:37 am

These cherries I am picking, their juiciness proves that every fruit is a cherry! How can this sweet, sweet taste be wrong?

They are whole jelly doughnuts you obese slug.
Trust you to emerge from your sugar coma looking for more.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 15, 2022 11:40 am

rosie

More likely the demographic shift in Victoria is driven by immigration.
Box Hill used to be solid middle class, now it’s a Chinese enclave with towering apartment blocks; unrecognisable from the 1970s/80s .
I went into the Commonwealth Bank there yesterday, could have just as easily been in Hong Kong.

Ditto for the Chatswood/Epping area in Sydney.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 11:40 am

They are whole jelly doughnuts you obese slug.
Trust you to emerge from your sugar coma looking for more.

He has been

Reply
Boambee John

KD

We will extinguish the minifauna.

Turducken will be replaced by Pelieagkooka?

local oaf
December 15, 2022 11:43 am

So, cherries are the latest dish cooked up for us by m0nty

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 15, 2022 11:47 am

Keep getting jabbed, you know you deserve it!

A major new autopsy report has found that three people who died unexpectedly at home with no pre-existing disease shortly after COVID vaccination were likely killed by the vaccine. A further two deaths were found to be possibly due to the vaccine.

The report, published in Clinical Research in Cardiology, the official journal of the German Cardiac Society, detailed autopsies carried out at Heidelberg University Hospital in 2021. Led by Thomas Longerich and Peter Schirmacher, it found that in five deaths that occurred within a week of the first or second dose of vaccination with Pfizer or Moderna, inflammation of the heart tissue due to an autoimmune response triggered by the vaccine had likely or possibly caused the death.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 11:47 am

PK on ABCcess launching into “how can gas companies have a social license to operate if they dont fall into line with every left wing demand” and harks back to KRudds/red Witch carbin tax, super profits tax/ resisting our glorious new dawn as proof they are kulaks and wreckers and jim Chalmers is right to threaten them with anything he wants.

C.L.
C.L.
December 15, 2022 11:48 am

Latham is right re Bolt.
Right also to point out that Sky dumped Alan Jones for being 100% right about Covid.

https://twitter.com/RealMarkLatham/status/1603085064891342848

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 11:50 am

Ditto for the Chatswood/Epping area in Sydney.

I was in Castle Hill again yesterday (another Sydney Christmas party). More densely packed high-rise in the old Bible Belt. The demographic change there is stark.

Many masks in evidence, even on small children.

That being said, one of my friends sat at the dinner table at the club in a mask last night, removing it only to eat. I could barely look at her, it was so distressing to see the wariness of germs eclipsing normal human interaction. This thing has broken many people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 11:52 am

An excellent science story.

Ancient grammatical puzzle solved after 2,500 years (Phys.org, 14 Dec)

A grammatical problem that has defeated Sanskrit scholars since the 5th century BC has finally been solved by an Indian Ph.D. student at the University of Cambridge. Rishi Rajpopat made the breakthrough by decoding a rule taught by “the father of linguistics,” P??ini.

The discovery makes it possible to “derive” any Sanskrit word—to construct millions of grammatically correct words including “mantra” and “guru”—using P??ini’s revered “language machine,” which is widely considered to be one of the great intellectual achievements in history.

Leading Sanskrit experts have described Rajpopat’s discovery as “revolutionary”

I think Jean-François Champollion would stand him a beer any day of the week for that marvelous philological leap.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 15, 2022 11:53 am

The narrative is set.

All we need to do now is beat the story into shape by any means necessary.

Wieambilla killings a chilling reminder of far-right threat in Australia

Far right Aboriginal schoolteachers.
Talk about a self licking ice cream come of wrongology.

C.L.
C.L.
December 15, 2022 11:56 am

I was thinking yesterday (for some reason) of that 57 year-old woman who was the mother of those two removalist brothers who became public enemy N0.1 because they drove around making deliveries and supposedly gave dear old mum Delta. She contracted it one arvo and was dead the next morning. ‘Health officials’ used this to claim that covid could kill you that quickly. Remember, the sons were kept locked in their car outside their home by police – as the media (strangely free to roam) filmed their grief-stricken faces for the 6 o’clock news. She almost certainly died of a heart attack brought on by the media’s demonisation of her hard-working twin boys. Just one of many cases that should be examined by an independent expert.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2022 11:57 am

Box Hill used to be solid middle class, now it’s a Chinese enclave with towering apartment blocks; unrecognisable from the 1970s/80s .

The Lib candidate came a cropper in Box Hill recently. She was Asian in appearance (Local background), young, attractive female, big on ‘community’. Campaigned like she was running for Form 6 class rep.

There’s enough older white people around to resent the Asian takeover. Labor put up a white, middle aged, non smiler. Matched the mood of the electorate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 11:59 am

The Queensland killings are a perfect Rorschach test. If you set out on right wing teacher killing spree it would take weeks.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 12:03 pm

Thank you JMH

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 12:04 pm

Another test for diversity results in a fail as France defeats Morocco 2-0.
Widespread rioting and destruction in French cities.
“Our strength is diversity.”

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 15, 2022 12:06 pm

an independent expert

I think we have had enough of independent experts.
That’s what got us into this mess.

calli
calli
December 15, 2022 12:06 pm

It was all lies, of course, C.L. Thanks for the reminder. I heard people up here wanting to cordon off the peninsula at Salt Ash to “keep us safe”. Flippin’ lunatics.

Still haven’t caught it.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 12:13 pm

A blonde walks into a barber shop with headphones on. She tells the barber what cut she wants, but that he has to cut around her headphones. The barber looks a little puzzled but agrees. So, he starts cutting the best he can but accidently he knocks the headphones off. Within a few seconds the girl dies. Very startled, the man walks over and picks up the headphones and hears “Breathe in, Breathe out”…..

A large fat, big mouthed American is on a bus tour of Sydney and has been bragging on about how everything is bigger and better in the good ol’ US of A and how everything is small in Australia. As they meander around Randwick, he points his podgy finger at a small building attached to The Prince of Wales hospital and says to the tour guide “See that hospital building over there? Why if that was in the States it would be a hundred times bigger”. The tour guide says “I’m not surprised mate. That’s the obesity wing”.

Johnny Rotten
December 15, 2022 12:15 pm

The most important thing in acting is honesty. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.

– George Burns

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 12:15 pm

Another test for diversity results in a fail as France defeats Morocco 2-0.
Widespread rioting and destruction in French cities.

Talk about being on a hiding to nothing.

m0nty
December 15, 2022 12:19 pm

Regarding the above post by Jorge:

Nicole Ta-Ei Werner: Chinese voters are ‘Labor Party only’
The Liberals’ Box Hill candidate reveals the painful lessons of her long campaign and how the party hung her out to dry.

Nicole Ta-Ei Werner
December 10, 2022 – 7:00AM

As the Liberal candidate for Box Hill, I ticked all the boxes. Young, female, ethnically Chinese, a true local with strong connections to the community. I had everything going for me. I ran a strong campaign over nine months, quitting my job to campaign full time, giving it everything I had. I poured my heart out to serve my community and offered them a committed representative in parliament.

My campaign amassed a following that was unusual for a Liberal candidate. There was no shortage of volunteers, resources or support. I spoke the language: of the Chinese community – Mandarin (albeit poorly), of young people – on social media, of young women – being one of them.

My candidacy attracted significant media attention in various outlets, including front pages and feature stories and news reports which were all positive.

My story resonated as the granddaughter of an illiterate Malaysian woman who survived World War II and as the daughter of immigrant parents who arrived in Box Hill from Malaysia in 1987 with their life savings of $800 and one suitcase, who worked hard to make a better life for their family.

My parents campaigned with me every single week for months on end. Dad, at nearly 70, hung every one of our signs across the electorate. Mum took a month off work to be part of the campaign’s final weeks. When it came to pre-poll, they were the first to arrive and the last to leave, volunteering 12-hour days. My parents are no strangers to hard work and toiled with me over those two weeks, neglecting even to take proper lunch breaks to support their daughter and win back the seat of Box Hill.

In the end, it was not to be.

They say hard work pays off, but it doesn’t necessarily in politics. Despite the gruelling hours and the months of campaigning, the swing against us in Box Hill and across the middle eastern suburbs was impossible to overcome.

Statistically, they say your personal vote only accounts for 1 per cent and, at an absolute maximum, 2 per cent. I now see that to be true.

Likewise, my colleagues in Ashwood and Ringwood ran impressive grassroots campaigns and failed. Even our colleagues in Glen Waverley and Bayswater, with the benefit of their name recognition and former incumbency, were casualties to the severe swing against us.

There are several reasons we were unsuccessful in the middle eastern electorates. Primarily, the Chinese vote has abandoned the Liberal Party. We saw this anecdotally every day of pre-poll.

My Dad speaks four different Chinese dialects. As a fellow Chinese person, he would look our voters in the eye, talk to them in their mother tongue, and encourage them to vote for their Asian representative and offer them Mandarin-translated “how to vote” cards. Most of the time, Chinese voters refused to take any card but red. “Labor Party only,” they would say.

I saw a similar trend in the Indian community. In speaking to Indian friends post the fact, they say they have friends who were Liberal voters who have since become Labor Party donors and supporters because the Labor Party is more active and engaged in their community. A friend cited a recent Indian cultural event to which politicians from both parties were invited. There were nine Labor Party MPs – federal and state – in attendance and not one Liberal MP.

Our lack of long-term engagement and work within multicultural communities hung candidates like me out to dry.

Other macro factors that went against us include our brand damage, the hangover of contempt for Scott Morrison, our failure to appeal to young people and the reality that the anti-Dan sentiment failed to resonate in the middle eastern suburbs. We failed to present ourselves as a better alternative.

The reality was, for every vocal anti-Dan voter we met (who were there in abundance) – there were two quiet Australians who would politely walk past and go in to vote Labor.

In processing and speaking to my non-political friends, they remind me that until I started on this journey, they never paid any mind to who the candidate was. They voted for the party.

A painful lesson learned after a long nine months.

It’s not about the individual candidate, and it’s not about their merit. It’s about the party, the message and the leader.

As the dust settles and the Liberal Party leaders review the election, I hope they ask the tough questions and address the challenges and issues facing the party in the electorates rather than scapegoating the blame on internal party politics.

This is the Liberal Party’s challenge and opportunity in opposition for our third consecutive term. Winston Churchill said, “never let a good crisis go to waste.” For the sake of our party and the sake of Victoria, I hope that we don’t.

Nicole Ta-Ei Werner is the former Liberal candidate for Box Hill

C.L.
C.L.
December 15, 2022 12:19 pm

The Guardian:

It’s believed [Stacey Train] had strong views on the jab and believed the government was “interfering”, a former colleague told The Guardian.

“She didn’t go around spruiking her thoughts or anything like that, but we knew she had alternative views and was anti-vax, and there was the sense there was ‘big government interference’ and things like that,” they said.

“I was trying to convince her to stay, and I said, ‘I should hold you down and force it into you’, and her face just dropped … and her eyes got wide with horror.”

Casual workplace rape threat. No big deal.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 12:23 pm

WA should really have no power issues as Collie coal is unstable and there is really no alternative use but burning it on the spot.

The entire WA synthetic rutile industry is built on Collie coal.
Last I looked they’d still not found an alternative, but that was over a decade ago, so they may’ve found something else to use by now.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 12:26 pm

Regarding the above post by Jorge:

Yeah, nah Fat Man.

Viktoristan is so thoroughly State [i.e. Left]-captured that nobody outside of Danisbad will dare be seen voting for anyone other than The Party.

And beyond the Liberals’ utter inability to provide a viable political alternative, all the attempts to pander to voter group X is lefty tactics anyway. And as the woman said, that seat is already taken.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Stacey Train is the new Dick Pusey.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 15, 2022 12:27 pm

Chinese voters refused to take any card but red.

The PLA is watching. I wonder how many of those Chinese police stations there are in Victoria?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 12:28 pm

Viktoristan is so thoroughly State [i.e. Left]-captured that nobody outside of Danisbad will dare be seen voting for anyone other than The Party.

I rephrase:

Viktoristan is so thoroughly State [i.e. Left]-captured that nobody (except maybe those outside of Danisbad) will dare be seen voting for anyone other than The Party.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 12:30 pm

Most of the time, Chinese voters refused to take any card but red. “Labor Party only,” they would say.

Suburban hostages of the CCP.
Dan loves all his children.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 12:34 pm

Viktoristan is so thoroughly State [i.e. Left]-captured

When even the tourist railway folks I know in Victoria share cynical quips about Puffing Billy dancing on the strings of government grant money (and gone full circle from being a Government Railway in the late 60s to a volunteer organisation back to being a de facto Government Railway again as a result), and bemoan Victrack’s insidious and increasingly insistent demands for environmental impact policies and mitigations (on isolated lines run for the joy of the public), you know the place has gone full Soviet.

You never go full Soviet…

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 12:37 pm

What sort of volumes do they take Bruce? I was thinking more in terms of export. I understand it is quite unstable to handle.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 15, 2022 12:38 pm

And the opposition was not really an opposition at all.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 12:40 pm

scroll quickly

Old Ozzie, I read long posts that are links or reproduce part of links to other commentary. Your post on Labor’s mismanagement was one of those worth reading. Sometimes I even get so carried away by something mentioned here that I spend hours chasing up further info – as in the Singing Neanderthals instance.

I’ve always been glad there is not a 140 character limit here, because sometimes people of all sorts and interests just like to write stuff. As long as its not too frequent I can’t see any issue with individuals doing that. So I just spoke up in favour of longer posts in general. I suggest some Voltarin for the scrolling finger of scroll arthritics. To each their own.

m0nty
December 15, 2022 12:41 pm

It should be pointed out that Nicole Ta-Ei Werner did secure a swing towards her… of 0.1% to bring her margin of loss down to 14.5%. So it’s not as if she was in a marginal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 15, 2022 12:41 pm

Maybe the Lieborals should establish a Victoriastan government-in-exile on the other bank of the Murray until they lose government in NSW?

struth
struth
December 15, 2022 12:41 pm

And you all say nothing

Cynical quips and all

Soon Sancho.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 12:43 pm

I need to see another dentist for a second opinion.

I don’t believe the one that I just saw.
No-one is ripping my bridge out if I can help it.
It was such a misery having it put in.

Hairy says my dentist tells whoppers.
He has chosen another one who tells truth to teeth.
Can I have him too? I ask hopefully.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
December 15, 2022 12:44 pm

The Lib candidate came a cropper in Box Hill recently. She was Asian in appearance (Local background), young, attractive female, big on ‘community’. Campaigned like she was running for Form 6 class rep.

There’s enough older white people around to resent the Asian takeover. Labor put up a white, middle aged, non smiler. Matched the mood of the electorate.

Must be the same reason Kristina Keneally won her seat.

struth
struth
December 15, 2022 12:45 pm

Dark side hey Lizzie?

Is that the side of those who flashed their nazi passes and participated in a segregated society or those that held the line.

What costs more …a trophy wife or a prostitute?

struth
struth
December 15, 2022 12:47 pm

Scoffing is now called doing research according to calli.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 15, 2022 12:48 pm

LNP had 82% of Labor’s TPP vote in the state election but achieved 48% of Labor tally of seats.

It’s a clear gerrymander using migrant population placement and a VEC who need to do their job properly and redraw boundaries that more closely reflect the total voting percentages.
The electoral map of Melbourne looks like a red shark eating a blue minnow. It’s not by accident.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 15, 2022 12:50 pm

Well at least medic and the Canbra hooker are gone

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 15, 2022 12:51 pm

What costs more …a trophy wife or a prostitute?

Do we ask Mrs Struth?

Or the boat?

Mater
December 15, 2022 12:56 pm

“I was trying to convince her to stay, and I said, ‘I should hold you down and force it into you’, and her face just dropped … and her eyes got wide with horror.”

Hmmm, yes. My father said the same thing to me.
“Try it!”, was my response.

They live amongst us.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 12:56 pm

Stacey Train

More proof of the simulation.

No more comments required.

Dot
Dot
December 15, 2022 12:59 pm

What costs more …a trophy wife or a prostitute?

Charles II had a LTR with “the Protestant Whore”.

Turns out if you are a big enough balla, both can have net benefits.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 15, 2022 1:02 pm

Even though ladies of my generation do not attempt soldering. We let the men do men’s work.

My wifes grandmother would strongly disagree, worked long hours under shit conditions supporting the war effort in factorie production lines. But I guess thay aren’t part of the feminist ‘literati’ so there contributions still remain under appreciated.

May I politely point out that my generation is not that of your wife’s grandmother?

That would be my own mother’s generation. Mum worked in a factory too, but not during ‘the war’ when she was busy having us three in a Glasgow slum. She worked at Ducon Condensers out Liverpool way in the 1950’s when dad’s farm collapsed after he did. She had a long journey to work from Mt. Druitt, car-pooling to get there, and very long hours on poor pay as a female. She wasn’t any sort of feminist literati, and nor am I. Women in factories in the post-war period weren’t Rose the Riveters. They did shit repetitive work on production lines, tedious, heavy, and often dirty – but not much welding. Funnily enough, because it got her out of the house and away from my father, with her children all run away while she had stayed, she improved in her own mental state from the social contact. She also got promoted to forewoman because she took the trouble and had the intelligence to learn smatterings of the languages of all the migrant women on the line.

The last word she ever said in this life was to me, in Italian: finito.

Some snobby bitch who worked alongside me when I was copywriting ads in the early 60’s saw a photograph of mum and co-workers in a company news item and recognised my name in the listing underneath it. Is this ‘person’ a relative of yours? she enquired with a nasty emphasis as though she was talking of some sort of unthinkable connection, attempting to put me down. Snobs existed a lot then, and reverse snobs also exist a lot these days.

Cassie of Sydney
December 15, 2022 1:05 pm

“Latham is right re Bolt.

Yep.

Right also to point out that Sky dumped Alan Jones for being 100% right about Covid.”

Yep. It was a disgrace. Sky capitulated to the far-left Twitter mobs re Jones.

Jorge
Jorge
December 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Ta, Monty. That was a good piece by/ about Nicole in Box Hill.
Pretty shallow to think that ethnicity is the deciding factor so let’s put up a Chinese in BH.

Nicole’s pitch stressed being part of the community which was trying to have a bob both ways. Too clever by half.

Nothing at all about any of the issues.

Makka
Makka
December 15, 2022 1:12 pm

I see Oz jobs blew it out of the water, permanent and part time. UE rate unchanged.

Lowe will not be pleased with those numbers. Higher for longer interest rates.

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