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Rocks and Ferns in a Wood at Crossmount, John Ruskin, 1847


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H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 5:13 pm

AND an investment property. Much loved by Liars politicians and others not paying their fair share of tax.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:13 pm

Driller

No blowharding and no pubbling. A rundown motel in the middle of shit creek is nothing to be crapping on about. STFU.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 5:14 pm

KD – at least he didn’t steal the office fridge.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 21, 2022 5:15 pm

I see that with the appointment of the fat rat looking through a toilet brush as the Ambassador to the US, Labor is following biblical teachings: in particular Proverbs 26:11 – As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly. There is a reason why the uniquely unpleasant and inept (H/t Rita Panahi) former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was known for some time as ‘DV – Dog’s Vomit’

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 5:15 pm

Lysander, your analysis is a bit simplistic.

That’s as far as I read Munt. It was a mistake addressing you (other than with sounds like “git” or “sit” or “rollover”) following my ban on you.

Been paying 45 cents in the dollar in tax for over a decade now. I don’t need The Archives Weekly Editor’s advice, Mr Scrollable.

(or is that rollable?)

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 5:17 pm

Driller

No blowharding and no pubbling. A rundown motel in the middle of shit creek is nothing to be crapping on about. STFU.

Selling grog to Australians is not a particularly difficult business to run, is it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 21, 2022 5:17 pm

America’s Favorite Engineer Takes His Final Revenge On Package Thieves With GlitterBomb 5.0

Mark Rober mastered a level of punishment that leftist counties won’t get with reduced police budgets and district attorneys who refuse to lock up criminals.

America’s favorite engineer is back and ready to take his final revenge on San Francisco’s plethora of package thieves with a new and improved GlitterBomb.

Armed with mini autonomous glitter-carrying drones, a 360 camera, and 50 times more f@rt spray than in previous years, Mark Rober’s GlitterBomb 5.0 is intricately designed to teach California’s thieves a lesson about stealing from porches and parked vehicles.

The YouTuber, famous for his backyard squirrel obstacle courses and outside-the-box experiments like dropping an egg from space, first started the GlitterBomb series in 2018 after two porch pirates pilfered a $6 package from his front door. Rober tried to turn the not-so-sneaky thieves over to law enforcement using video evidence, but when the police did nothing, he took matters into his own hands.

Rober didn’t just want to stop criminals from stealing his valuables, he wanted to give them a taste of their own medicine. With a GlitterBomb contraption disguised as eye-catching technology, Rober took to the streets of California to go what he calls “full ‘Home Alone’” on the scummy people who steal Christmas gifts and other expensive possessions to resell for a profit online.

Anyone who successfully snatches the packages strategically planted by Rober and crew is suddenly and unknowingly transformed from a perpetrator into a victim. Once the thieves think they are safely back in their own homes or cars with the new treasure in tow, Rober remotely tasks the armed box with doing its worst.

Women, men, and even children involved in stealing the special parcel are met with an assault of the world’s finest glitter from sky-bound drones and a stinky spray that Rober confirmed takes days to air out of fabric such as carpet and chairs. A loud beeping, countdown, and soundbites from police radio recordings further confuse the criminals who frantically try to dispose of the obnoxious-smelling, noisy device by any means necessary.

Where Soft-on-Crime Counties Fail, Rober’s GlitterBomb Succeeds

cohenite
December 21, 2022 5:18 pm

JC says:
December 21, 2022 at 1:09 pm

Naked Man Interrupts Several Chicago Online Court Proceedings Masturbating with “Unknown Item” Inserted Up His B*tt

If that’s what it takes to get your attention I’ll do it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 21, 2022 5:18 pm

Dont forget operating as a pipeline to poverty by encouraging problematic activities leading to gambling…

Hes the donut flavored vape of addiction…

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 21, 2022 5:19 pm

what confidence can anyone have in any investigation process he has managed?
The Hawks need to have a serious word with themselves- why the heck would anyone expect anything other than a “toxic structural and personal racism” finding? Let alone pay some dodgy hustler and gift him the privilege of pissing in the faces of every non-Aboriginal player, coach, staff and supporter, past and present, while handing it down?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 21, 2022 5:20 pm

with “Unknown Item” Inserted Up His B*tt

At least we now know where ‘dillo has been hiding.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 5:21 pm

JC, you’re a business analyst by trade. Perhaps you can weigh in on how servicing an extra US$13B of debt factors into Twitter’s future profitability.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:22 pm

Selling grog to Australians is not a particularly difficult business to run, is it.

Actually, it probably is Fatboy. We’re about 27th in per cap consumption.

The stuff is poison anyway.

Zipster
December 21, 2022 5:24 pm

“SBF is not a progressive. “

by definition progressives are the one true righteous out to save the planet

actually it’s a cabal of imbecility

JMH
JMH
December 21, 2022 5:25 pm

JCsays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:04 pm

Oh look, it’s Angry Karen making an appearance.

Just cringe-worthy. Tries to draw Sal into a stouch over a post at 2.35 pm that had no mention whatsoever of Just Cringe-worthy and now Just Cringe-worthy attempts to engage with me after being warned numerous time to back right off. BTW, your head cavity reeks. I need to get out of it.
How long will Struth remain in moderation? Just to determine a comparison with regard to moderation rules, that’s all!

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 5:26 pm

is there any end result difference between the sheer dickheadsmanship of M0nty, Ed Case & Bird?

Bird is a magpie with a gammy leg pecking the fly-wire screen hoping for anything
Ed can crack a joke but you gotta get him on a good day
mUnty plays like a scratched DVD

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 5:27 pm

Not sure if it is common knowledge, but Monty also runs a fantasy tycoon site.

Last year alone he made ?20 Bn (? is the in-game currency. It is named ‘Mont’ and the symbol represents a donut intersected by a chocolate bar.)

So if Monty decided to turn his hand to real-world business chances are Elon Musk would be licking clean the shoes of the guy who licks clean the shoes of the guy who licks clean the shoes of the guy who refills the chocolate fountain.

So before you all get fired up about how amazing ‘Elon Musk’ is, pause for a moment and think about that.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:27 pm

JC, you’re a business analyst by trade.

No I’m not and never have suggested I was.

Perhaps you can weigh in on how servicing an extra US$13B of debt factors into Twitter’s future profitability.

How would I know or anyone other than Musk’s team? You would have to know what the top line revenue number is and what is the breakdown of expenses in a P/L statement.

Fathead, this is the guy who is currently running a ca- making business with the widest net margin in the industry. Incidentally, an industry where no other company has succeeded in holding on since WW2. That’s the guy you’re down-noting. Okay.

Zipster
December 21, 2022 5:28 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 5:28 pm

The level of self- flagellation inside the AFL rivals some medieval sects.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:29 pm

Just cringe-worthy. Tries to draw Sal into a stouch over a post at 2.35 pm that had no mention whatsoever of Just Cringe-worthy and now Just Cringe-worthy attempts to engage with me after being warned numerous time to back right off. BTW, your head cavity reeks. I need to get out of it.
How long will Struth remain in moderation? Just to determine a comparison with regard to moderation rules, that’s all!

Cringe worthy, just so cringe worthy and even more cringe worthy from Angry Karen. Cringe worthy.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 5:30 pm

No I’m not and never have suggested I was.

I was trying to say something nice about you, man. I could call you a day trader, but that would be a bit disrespectful.

this is the guy who is currently running a ca- making business with the widest net margin in the industry. Incidentally, an industry where no other company has succeeded in holding on since WW2. That’s the guy you’re down-noting. Okay.

What is your analysis of the TSLA stock then? Buy, hold or sell?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 21, 2022 5:30 pm

Dover’s Rules (from why is my post not appearing?)

More importantly, in the interests of promoting a more attractive forum for the discussion of politics and culture, the following guidelines are being introduced:

Flaming, “posting insults, often including profanity or other offensive language” will result in the deletion of the relevant comment/ conversation;

Trolling, posting “inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages…with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others’ perception” will result in the deletion of relevant comment, while persistent trolling will incur a ban;

Doxxing, the “act of publicly revealing previously private personal information about an individual”, will result in a ban; and

Picking scabs – reviving/ revisiting past incidents from this or previous iterations of Catallaxy that are best left behind, will result in deletion of relevant comment/ conversation.

JMH
JMH
December 21, 2022 5:30 pm

JCsays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:11 pm

You can employ 1000’s of people, B John. What matters is the marginal productivity you extract from each hire. I pretty much doubt an idiot sitting in the middle of FNQ posting jibes on a blog who claims to have had his twitter account stolen (wasting more time) is running the most productive business in the rain forest. That’s just me though.

What a repulsive post!

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 21, 2022 5:30 pm

So does Ernie, he laughs and says it was “invented” recently and has no basis in Aboriginal heritage.

Invented indeed. I wouldn’t have thought the competing tribes for water and abundant food, along with child bearing females, would have had a smoking ceremony and exchange niceties upon meeting. It was kill or be killed and it remains so today. Not so much the homicide but vary wary of each other.
Kooris in Victoriastan, Murris in Queensland and Noongars over west have a deep distrust bordering on hatred.

cohenite
December 21, 2022 5:31 pm

OldOzziesays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:17 pm
America’s Favorite Engineer Takes His Final Revenge On Package Thieves With GlitterBomb 5.0

Mark Rober mastered a level of punishment that leftist counties won’t get with reduced police budgets and district attorneys who refuse to lock up criminals.

Outstanding.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:32 pm

What a repulsive post!

Cringe worthy.

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 5:36 pm

I run my own business Sally

then why are you saying such stupid things?

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:36 pm

Hallward

I’d also add someone who continually miscasts actual links that often times contradicts the original assertion should be immediately banished to the lollipop blog. Frankly I don’t know why both you and Angry Karen are here as you’ve threatened to decamp to the lollipop site often enough. “Pity”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 5:37 pm

“SBF is not a progressive. “

And it is never real socialism, is it?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Selling grog to Australians is not a particularly difficult business to run, is it.

It is.
(Try to not keep demonstrating you know little to nothing about business)
As with any business, unless it is run like a … business…. it will go bad, sometimes quite fast.
When I started in the game the average lifespan of a licencee in Qld used to be 22 months.
More people left the industry via the back door, rather than voluntarily.
In the decades since the industry has become considerably more difficult.

The two things that used to kill a pub were 1) overstaffing & 2) mate’s rates.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 21, 2022 5:41 pm
JMH
JMH
December 21, 2022 5:42 pm

Eyriesays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:30 pm

Dover’s Rules (from why is my post not appearing?)

More importantly, in the interests of promoting a more attractive forum for the discussion of politics and culture, the following guidelines are being introduced:

Flaming, “posting insults, often including profanity or other offensive language” will result in the deletion of the relevant comment/ conversation;

Trolling, posting “inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages…with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others’ perception” will result in the deletion of relevant comment, while persistent trolling will incur a ban;

Doxxing, the “act of publicly revealing previously private personal information about an individual”, will result in a ban; and

Picking scabs – reviving/ revisiting past incidents from this or previous iterations of Catallaxy that are best left behind, will result in deletion of relevant comment/ conversation

.
Interesting. Add to that, the new Moderation rules! Do they only apply to
Struth – and probably me – but not the main Open Thread polluter. I’d hate to think $$$ are involved in decision-making!.

Makka
Makka
December 21, 2022 5:44 pm

Leftism
@LeftismForU
He can’t help himself

https://twitter.com/LeftismForU/status/1605433032701345792

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:44 pm

Dover’s Rules (from why is my post not appearing?)

I’d also add someone constantly demanding others get the boot should be booted.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 5:45 pm

There’s a lollipop site?

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 5:47 pm

Peter Singer is a sociopath, he is not partisan at all, just a fruit loop.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 5:48 pm

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I knew Lee Harvey Oswald: without doubt he acted alone Paul Roderick Gregory
Lee Harvey Oswald is shot dead by Dallas nightclub owner Jack Ruby. Picture: AP
Lee Harvey Oswald is shot dead by Dallas nightclub owner Jack Ruby. Picture: AP

The Wall Street Journal
6:45AM December 20, 2022
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Less than a year after John F. Kennedy’s assassination, the Warren Commission released its findings to the public: JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, who acted alone. The new tranche of files the US National Archives released last week contains nothing that calls that conclusion into question. But many Americans do anyway.

When the Warren report came out in September 1964, some 80 per cent agreed with its finding that Oswald acted alone. Today more than 60 per cent don’t believe Oswald acted alone.

The persistent belief in a conspiracy has been fuelled by the 400 books published on the Kennedys, most on the multitude of conspiracy theories revolving around Cuba, the Soviet Union, the mafia, Texas oil interests, Lyndon B. Johnson and so on. One of the most amusing, in an effort to shift the blame from the leftist Oswald, lists my father and me as part of a White Russian conspiracy.
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We did have a connection with Oswald. My father, a native Russian speaker, taught the language at a public library in Fort Worth, Texas. Oswald wanted a certificate of fluency in Russian and invited my father and me to his brother’s house. There we met Lee’s wife, Marina, for whom my father translated after the assassination.

Moscow and some American leftists accused him of mistranslating her to shift the blame to Lee. Lee’s brother identified me as Lee and Marina’s only friend during their stay in Forth Worth.

I never doubted that Lee did it, or that he did it alone, when I saw his image on the TV screen as he was brought into Dallas police headquarters. As I told the Secret Service the next day, the Lee Harvey Oswald I knew would be the last person I would recruit for a conspiracy. He was genetically incapable of being either a leader or a follower.

The Warren report itself is a masterpiece in careful investigation. Its agents interviewed almost everyone who crossed paths with the Oswalds, down to fellow passengers on Lee’s bus to Mexico City and a landlord who once knocked on their door. The explanation of the sustained rejection of its findings rests with incredulity that history-changing events can happen by chance, especially through the actions of a nobody like Lee Harvey Oswald – a paranoid, delusional high school dropout who expected his Historic Diary to make him an intellectual figure of the left.

I have a quite different picture as I remember waving goodbye to Lee and Marina as they boarded the night bus from Fort Worth to Dallas on November 22, 1962. Lee had all the attributes for a “low-tech” assassination: motive, resources, persistence, street smarts and the soul of a killer. He also needed a string of the coincidences that formed the brew for the conspiracy theories that seem to have won the day.

The loss of national innocence begun with JFK’s assassination has only gotten worse – the Pentagon Papers, WikiLeaks, Russiagate, evidence of a partisan bureaucracy, and questioning of formerly revered institutions such as the Supreme Court and FBI. Can public trust be regained after such damage?

Top Ender, did you say you had been to the Texas Schoolbook Depository, and looked out the window there?

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:48 pm

I’d hate to think $$$ are involved in decision-making!.

Lol. You couldn’t afford it, Angry Karen.

You’re actually fucking lucky Dover is easy going because anyone else being accused of acting because corrupt favoritism would be lifetime banned. You disgusting piece of shit Angry Karen.

Dover s/hes accusing you of being corrupt. This is where this regional zero is going.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 5:49 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 21, 2022 5:49 pm

Mums hubby & his son nearly went bust running a large pub with the only nightclub in town attached.

The nightclub was a money sink, the laws and regulations and fees combined with staffing levels and only offering alcohol (and water) to drink as opposed to other recreational substances was a massive loss maker.
People buy SFA at a nightclub, instead they get hammered elsewhere or drug up, then go to the club to vomit/fight.

Staring into the abyss of going broke they shut the nightclub and instead expanded the pub beer garden and got their opening time extended to about midnight.
Never looked back, coining it now.

But tell Monty the only nightclub in town is going broke and hed scoff.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
December 21, 2022 5:49 pm

this email just received, “we’re from gummint central planning, and we’re here to help”:

Hello Davey

The NSW Government has launched the Shared Equity Home Buyer Helper to make it easier for single parents, older singles, nurses, midwives, paramedics, teachers, early childhood educators and police officers to own a home.

Under the initiative, the NSW Government will contribute a proportion of the purchase price of a property in exchange for an equivalent share of the property.

If eligible, the Government will contribute up to 40% of the purchase price of a new home; and up to 30% of the purchase price of an existing home.

Check your eligibility and register to get notified when the initiative goes live on 23 January 2023.”

Eligibility:

The initiative is open to:
– single parents of a dependent child or children
– single people 50 years of age or above, or
– first home buyer key workers who are nurses, midwives, paramedics, teachers, early childhood educators or police officers.

The gross income of the participants must be no more than $90,000 for singles and $120,000 for couples.

Participants must buy a home in NSW with the maximum property price determined by the home’s location:
– $950,000 in Sydney and major regional centres (Newcastle & Lake Macquarie, Illawarra, Central Coast and North Coast of NSW), or
– $600,000 in other regional areas of NSW.

Participants must:
– be 18 years or over
– be an Australian or New Zealand citizen, or a permanent Australian resident
– have a minimum deposit of 2% of the purchase price
– occupy the property as their principal place of residence
– not currently own any land or property
– not be able to service the mortgage for the property purchase without the government contribution but be able to service the mortgage with a participating lender with the government contribution.

It will all run smoothly and work out just fine, I’m sure.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:50 pm

Dover

Angry karen is accusing you of taking money for comment. Think about where this regional zero is heading.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 21, 2022 5:53 pm

Wow, Courier Mail now has two Frank Chung Phelps articles showing online.

Daily Telegraph seems not interested but I did see SMH covered the story.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 5:55 pm

Here we go – again!

No, there’s no here we go again, that’s just you attempting to dominate the blog you piss weak little zero.. If you don’t like it then you too have to potential to fuck off, Angry Karen.

He’s losing it. 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 5:57 pm

Davey Boy
that Shared Equity thing is for scammers…

You must earn under $90K as a single? When they launched this in WA I knew a bunch of youngins earning $130K so they asked HR to do some salary sacrificing for a month so their paycheque looked smaller when the gubbermint asked for it.

Another one is the “must be a first home buyer.” Great news for investors with a bit of cash and a few kids who haven’t bought a house yet!

Lastly, you get NO EQUITY in these deals… If the house goes up 10,000% you can’t use the increase to leverage a personal loan (which is why most Aussies choose to buy 100%, not shared!)

JMH
JMH
December 21, 2022 6:00 pm

Readers, please take no notice of my post at 5.52 pm.
a serious C/P FAIL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 6:02 pm

m0ntysays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:47 pm
Peter Singer is a sociopath, he is not partisan at all, just a fruit loop.

Who provides the “intellectual” arguments in support of the leftard eugenics project. Nothing to see here, move along now.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You disgusting piece of shit

Them new rules in the new thread are working out really good.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 6:09 pm

What new rules are those as I have read them?

Where are these new rules?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2022 6:09 pm

Eyrie if you want a more attractive blog I can post photos of myself. But be warned fainting spells may occur in the fair lady community which I cannot be held responsible.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 21, 2022 6:11 pm

Oops, seems Tim Blair has a column on the Phelps story

Wonder if Phelps injected any of her clients after being aware she and her partner injured and of so did she give them any warning?

JMH
JMH
December 21, 2022 6:11 pm

JCsays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:48 pm
I’d hate to think $$$ are involved in decision-making!.

Lol. You couldn’t afford it, Angry Karen.

You’re actually fucking lucky Dover is easy going because anyone else being accused of acting because corrupt favoritism would be lifetime banned. You disgusting piece of shit Angry Karen.

Dover s/hes accusing you of being corrupt. This is where this regional zero is going.

JCsays:
December 21, 2022 at 5:55 pm
Here we go – again!

No, there’s no here we go again, that’s just you attempting to dominate the blog you piss weak little zero.. If you don’t like it then you too have to potential to fuck off, Angry Karen.

He’s losing it. ?

He’s losing it! I live in its filthy little brain cavity. If anyone should fuck off Just Cringe-worthy, it should be you – until you advance from the schoolyard bully into an adult.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 6:13 pm

Cyclone Darian,
currently packing a Cat 5 with 220km hour winds and guts up to 350kmph:

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=-11.4;95.6;3&l=cape

But shitty “little” cyc is gonna keep heading west before turning into a light rain band that drifts southward way below Australia in early January..

Arky
December 21, 2022 6:16 pm

Them new rules in the new thread are working out really good.

..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOBXH-5QrGU

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 6:24 pm

I mean, you gotta love some factchecks. This one on the next Speaker of the US House:

Yes, technically the House can decide to choose a speaker who is not a member of the House, although it has never been done. This would make it possible for a former president like Donald Trump to be the speaker of the House.

Morsie
Morsie
December 21, 2022 6:27 pm

I haven’t seen any evidence that SBF donated to the Repjblicans other than his statement that it was untraceable dark money

Given the stupidity generally of the GOP I find this highly unlikely

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 6:30 pm

The US Constitution only states that the Speaker shall be elected by the House of Reps – it does not specify from the House of Reps.

Lysander
Lysander
December 21, 2022 6:33 pm

I know that by even typing Trump could be elected Speaker of the House (which, legally is possible) I am bordering on Muntedesque fantasy land. Although it’d be a cracker story for a few days with screechy tears. 😛

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 6:35 pm

dover0beachsays:
December 21, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Peter Singer is a sociopath, he is not partisan at all, just a fruit loop.

Singer’s position on animals, abortion, euthanasia, and the like, is no different to the Left’s.

Pure coincidence, could happen to anyone who holds opinions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 6:41 pm

Cars are just metal and plastic Lizzie, and the good news is, they’re still making them. As long as nobody was hurt, the rest will sort itself out.

Yep. We went up to Vaucluse village to see our repairer who remembers us from the troublesome Audi. He is going to try to rig up a working tail light and rhs blinker light so we have this car back tomorrow till we go away early January. Insurance can offer $800 emergency fix and then we have to sort out an authorised repairer. NRMA nonsense. $690 excess, and in a dual backing clash each pays for their own. Unfair, I reckon, as I was very slowly backing and they were pelting; my car was thumped and I don’t think the huge, huge, extra big garbage truck took a scratch anywhere. Maybe it did, but it wasn’t obvious. Possibly I was too upset to look properly. Abdul and Mohammed (not their real names) were keen to point out the illegally parked car that partially obscured my view, tho’ it didn’t block it too much and their truck did hadn’t hoved over it as I backed. I was keen to point out that it wasn’t a drag race they were engaged in, but I doubt they listened.

Anyway, the good news is that the dog is vetted, poor thing has a gummy fungal ear and was in pain, so it is good that he’s now got proper veterinary treatment. This is very important for dogs, the ears that is, as my autobiography of the Supervet tells me. I’m finished the book now, chapter by chapter each night. It is about love and science, in equal good measures, with the focus on ‘listening to the animals’. He concludes it with a poem he wrote as a lad of thirteen, loving animals wholeheartedly on his dad’s farm:

For when ngith’s pillow nuzzles back the day
The only light you get to keep – is the love you gave away.

I like that. It takes some of the pain out of paying the vet’s bill. 🙂

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 6:43 pm

Singer’s position on animals, abortion, euthanasia, and the like, is no different to the Left’s.

His opinion on economics is no different to the Right’s.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 6:45 pm

ngith’s – night’s

Can’t ruin the poor man’s poem with my jumpy autistic typing

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 6:47 pm

Peter Singer is a sociopath, he is not partisan at all, just a fruit loop.

I note his interlocutor on this occasion was Smitha Haneef, “assistant vice president of Campus Dining in University Services…”.

So basically she’s number 2 in charge of the uni refectory.

A very important job for those who work and eat onsite, I’m sure, but hasn’t the American obsession with titles and credentialism reached absurd levels?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 6:54 pm

Amazing how much of the body of modern cars is made out of plastic stuff.
I’ve also heard that planes, in particular the Dreamliner, also feature a lot of plastic structures.
All to be lighter and use less fuel, making fewer emissions. Bah.

Makes me long for the days when you were surrounded by solid heavy metal in a vehicle or plane.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 6:57 pm

A very important job for those who work and eat onsite …

Anyone who ate at the Ref should be automatically failed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 6:59 pm

I wonder if Ahmed and Mahommed have some very fancy titles.

I hope they do. They seemed nice enough. Especially Ahmed, who had to stablise the bins for the pickup.
A boring job, enlivened no doubt by a little prime mover backward drag racing as Mahommed went for his best time backwards up the street.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 7:00 pm

I think they are called composites. Particularly in European cars, whose owners tend to be sensitive about these things.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 7:02 pm

The two things that used to kill a pub were 1) overstaffing & 2) mate’s rates.

3.
Getting on the wrong side of the local cops.

#3 hasn’t been a problem for you, according to you?
Is there a reason, or are you a Bullshitter.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 7:04 pm

Bruce Lehrmann’s lawyers send legal letters to Ten, News Corp
Angus Thompson
By Angus Thompson
Updated December 21, 2022 — 6.16pmfirst published at 9.27am

Lawyers acting for former political staffer Bruce Lehrmann have sent legal letters to media outlets over their coverage of rape allegations aired by his former colleague Brittany Higgins as he welcomed a public inquiry into authorities’ handling of his abandoned criminal trial.

The ACT government announced the inquiry following reports that the territory’s director of public prosecutions, Shane Drumgold, SC, complained that police tried to pressure him not to prosecute Lehrmann, prompting law enforcement to call for a separate probe.

Lehrmann pleaded not guilty to sexually assaulting Higgins in the ministerial office of the pair’s former boss, Coalition senator Linda Reynolds, in March 2019. The trial was aborted in October this year due to juror misconduct, and the case against Lehrmann was later dropped due to grave concerns about Higgins’ mental health.

Lehrmann’s lawyer Steven Whybrow issued a statement on Wednesday saying, “Mr Lehrmann welcomes an inquiry and hopes the terms of reference will extend to an examination of all aspects of the matter, including decisions not to prosecute various individuals, and the efforts taken by the DPP to ensure a fair trial.”

Defamation lawyers acting for Lehrmann have also sent legal notices to media outlets, including Ten network and News Corp, over their coverage surrounding Higgins’ allegations. Spokespeople for those organisations declined to comment when contacted

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 7:04 pm

His opinion on economics is no different to the Right’s

which opinions mUnty?

rosie
rosie
December 21, 2022 7:07 pm

You know I wasn’t making excuses for Phelp’s sitting on her and her partner’s vaccine injuries, I was not invoking the spirit of Hilary Clinton, I’m saying she should have spoken then but instead she was all Ozsage, and now when it’s too late for most she’s speaking up.
And Roger they might well have been claimed as safe for those with autoimmune conditions but Phelps said she did her research, so she didn’t take the official advice on face value, like those of us without a medical background must obviously in view of potential side effects, and she opted for pfizer over astrazeneca when over sixty hoi polloi were only allowed to get astrazeneca.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 7:11 pm

I knew Lee Harvey Oswald: without doubt he acted alone Paul Roderick Gregory

That’s HorseShit from the get go.
The guy claims his daddy was a native Russian speaker, yet his name is Paul David Gregory?
C’mon?

It was Rabz who said he’d visited the 6th floor of the [now demolished*]
TSBD.
* Interesting, Ford’s Theatre wasn’t demolished, though it’s function as a theatre is long redundant.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 7:12 pm

Makes me long for the days when you were surrounded by solid heavy metal in a vehicle or plane.

This may be counter-intuitive, Lizzie, but the idea of the light panels and plastic interiros is to absorb the energy of a collision in a controlled manner so as to lessen the the impact on passengers.

The more rigid (and unseen) safety cell surrounding the passenger capsule provides the primary protective measure.

Tests have shown conclusively that this is overall a much safer design than the more solidly panelled vehicles of previous eras, beautiful though they were.

(I hope I’m not guilty of mansplaining with this!)

P
P
December 21, 2022 7:14 pm

Early this morning swf said ‘Summer Solstice today, some say tomorrow’.
For me today has been the longest day of the year.

Awoke early and received a phone call from my sister telling me my niece has passed during the night. 50years of age, diagnosed with Stage 4 bowel cancer a year ago. I wondered at the time if it hadn’t been for the lockdowns during 2020 and 2021 and the scare of the pandemic if she would have been diagnosed earlier.
I am very grateful that my niece and my sister became Catholic 12yrs ago.
The Parish Priest and so many of the parishioners have been there for them during this last year, and perhaps because she was a member of the ‘band’ who played at Mass so many from the Church visited her both at home and when she was palliative care. None of the family can fault the nursing care she received. It has been A1.

I then prayed the Rosary and was comforted by the fact that it was the Glorious Mysteries today.

At 9am I received a call from my eldest son informing me that my grandson’s open heart surgery that had been scheduled for 6.00am had been postponed because the surgeon had an emergency with a young child at the Children’s Hospital.
Later “The Ross Procedure” was performed on my 16yr old grandson and was successful and only took 4hrs. It will be a long recovery. I now await news from my son after he has spoken to the surgeon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 7:14 pm

I bought a small DVD/CD/USB etc player yesterday. Very cheap, I thought.

It can be given to a kid in the back seat of the car to amuse them with DVD’s, and as the Sporty Beamer has no CD function (it is too tech advanced for that) I can still play my old CD’s in the car on long trips.

Hairy looks at me funny sometimes.

cohenite
December 21, 2022 7:17 pm

His opinion on economics is no different to the Right’s.

Fuck off dickless. Singer ran as a candidate for the filth, is a vegetarian believes the interests of the whole are greater than individual interests. He is fundamentally opposed to meritocracy and self interest. In short he is a commie slug hiding behind moral sophistry. No doubt you support him because he would give equal standing to dickless turds.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 7:19 pm

P that puts my crazy little day back into its box. What a time you have had of it today.

I hope all goes well now for your teenage grandson. And condolences to you and your sister re your neice; what a comfort it must be to know of the care and love she received during her illness.

Rabz
December 21, 2022 7:20 pm

said he’d visited the 6th floor of the [now demolished*] TSBD.

Indeed, Eddles, I’ve got photos of it from the outside and photos of Dealey Plaza from the inside. That was 1993 and according to the link above, any reporting of the TSBD’s demise is apparently premature.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 21, 2022 7:21 pm

Daily Mail has,turned Phelps story into an opportunity to have a go at “anti vaxxers” particularly Craig Kelly who is in my view entitled to criticise her.

Phelps pushing the Vax whilst not mentioning injury she and partner had is negligence. I hope her patients are looking elsewhere for medical advice.

miltonf
miltonf
December 21, 2022 7:23 pm

Yes best wishes P.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 7:24 pm

I’m preparing a steamed baby spinach side for dinner.

Walking on the wild side.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 7:24 pm

(I hope I’m not guilty of mansplaining with this!)

Not at all, Roger. You are being sensible. And informative, backed by physics.
I was being nostalgic for times past, and its great cars, backed by longings.
We can happily co-exist here.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 7:25 pm

And Roger they might well have been claimed as safe for those with autoimmune conditions but Phelps said she did her research…

Aye, but there wasn’t much data to work with at the time, rosie.

miltonf
miltonf
December 21, 2022 7:25 pm

I was at at the TSBD in ’15- def still there. Whole place is like a circus- people standing on x marks the spot on road and getting tooted.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 7:29 pm

Phelps pushing the Vax whilst not mentioning injury she and partner had is negligence. I hope her patients are looking elsewhere for medical advice.
Injury?
She’s got multiple Organ Failure and 6 weeks to live?
Fuck off.
She’s felt a little unwell after the needle and so has Jackie, who we know discover has suffered chronic illness most of her life.
It’s more “Look at me!” from Phelps, and total bullshit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 7:29 pm

I was at at the TSBD in ’15- def still there. Whole place is like a circus- people standing on x marks the spot on road and getting tooted.

Any opinion as to whether Oswald fired those three shots?

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 7:32 pm

Singer has been sucking up to billionaires recently as part of this “effective altruism” movement which is thinly-veiled reheated Reaganite trickle-down rubbish. Coddling the idle rich is not the pastime of a progressive.

Mater
December 21, 2022 7:34 pm

Coddling the idle rich is not the pastime of a progressive.

Hahahaha…..
[Wipes tears from eyes…]

FMD you’re a deadhead.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 7:36 pm

Not at all, Roger. You are being sensible. And informative, backed by physics.

Good old Newtonian physics, even!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 7:36 pm

Everyone over 75 should be mandated to drive steamrollers, and with mariachi horns attached on continuous loop.

15kph max, and everyone has time to see and hear each other.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 7:36 pm

“The Right is the new champion of the working class,” says the Cat, “anyway how hot is Elon Musk, so dreamy amirite…”

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2022 7:37 pm

Coddling the idle rich is not the pastime of a progressive.

Get out…it’s the Democrats’ business model!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 7:37 pm

Phelps pushing the Vax whilst not mentioning injury she and partner had is negligence. I hope her patients are looking elsewhere for medical advice.

As someone mentioned above, she’s probably looking for an opportunity to turn hers into a ‘long Covid’ medical practice; she has a bit of a reputation already for dipping into the some of the less evidenced fields of naturopathy to treat with this mode some rather unevidenced but imaginative maladies that are popular with celebs. That stuff turns quite a good buck with what others call ‘the worried well’.

Long Covid may well be real, but needs to be disaggregated from more than just a general viral malaise (or even worse, some sort of malingering). For instance, auto-immune reactions, which I firmly believe do relate to these vaxxes, are not the same as an amorphous ‘long Covid’, even though they may be long lasting and distressing. Similarly, heart related problems are not classically ‘long Covid’ but they may be debilitating and ongoing and due to the vaxxes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 7:38 pm

Oswald wasn’t a killer, nothing in his background indicated that, so, no, he didn’t fire any shots.
Jack Ruby, he was a killer for the Mob in Chicago.

Morsie
Morsie
December 21, 2022 7:39 pm

According to AOS McConnell is racing to pass Bidens agenda before the congress can sit.
He really is happy being minority leader

Mater
December 21, 2022 7:45 pm

“The Right is the new champion of the working class,” says the Cat, “anyway how hot is Elon Musk, so dreamy amirite…”

Musk actually calls himself a socialist.

cohenite
December 21, 2022 7:47 pm

Singer has been sucking up to billionaires recently as part of this “effective altruism” movement which is thinly-veiled reheated Reaganite trickle-down rubbish. Coddling the idle rich is not the pastime of a progressive.

You’re so pathetic; even if you had a dick it would be miniscule. The US is rooted because it is run by progressive billionaires who coddle their wealth while espousing the smug platitudes of equality shits like Singer vomit up. Everyone is a cow!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 7:48 pm

Oswald wasn’t a killer, nothing in his background indicated that, so, no, he didn’t fire any shots.

What, so Officer J.D. Tippet died from old age, did he?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 21, 2022 7:53 pm

Everyone over 75 should be mandated to drive steamrollers, and with mariachi horns attached on continuous loop.

Now that sounds like a recipe for a fair contest between me and a monster garbage truck revved up in a flying reverse against an innocent little Sporty Beamer one tenth of its size. It was one of the smart and bigger ones, contracted by Councils for the job. On a steamroller I would win. I am woman and I am invincible. All I need is the right equipment.

And now, I am off for a simple G & T. The sort you having when getting over the day.
No ice. It wrecks the bubbles.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2022 7:54 pm

To Monty the Labor Party would be right wing.
From his perspective.
I’m always amused when luvvies complain how right wing the ABC is.
Which they regularly do.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 21, 2022 7:56 pm

ABC is crowing as Penny Ass-kiss-inger is set to pull off the greatest diplomatic coup in the history of lesbian foreign ministers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 7:58 pm

the greatest diplomatic coup in the history of lesbian foreign ministers

A low bar indeed.

‘Don’t fuck with the Wongs, man!’

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 8:04 pm

Last year alone he made ?20 Bn (? is the in-game currency. It is named ‘Mont’ and the symbol represents a donut intersected by a chocolate bar.)

Just saw that this did not render properly.

The character for the 20 bn was a Greek ‘Phi’, which is a circle bisected vertically by a bar that extends beyond the circle circumference. That was the donut intersected by a chocolate bar.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 8:04 pm

The Hun:

A farm worker has died in a quad bike accident at a property west of Colac after an incident on Tuesday.

The 74-year-old Simpson man who was working on a farm at Pirron Yallock, west of Colac, yesterday died following an incident involving a quad bike.

One more year and he would have been on a steamroller. Would never have happened.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 8:08 pm

“Billionaire capitalists are all pinko commies who want to kill and eat your babies,” says the Cat, “except if they suck up to my alt-right heroes in which case they are actually heroes of the working class.”

shatterzzz
December 21, 2022 8:11 pm

Luigi doing well with his media passes! .. he’s about to give permanent residency with all its benefits, trips home, family reunion, CentreLink access ect, to 23 000 illegals on temporary protection visas who arrived before 2012 and hardly a mention in the media …..

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2022 8:12 pm

“I knew Lee Harvey Oswald: without doubt he acted alone Paul Roderick Gregory”

I read the piece in the Oz last night. It’s an interesting read, and I believe Gregory is right. Gregory and his father knew Oswald, his father was called before the Warren Commission and testified. It’s an odd thing when you read anecdotes and stories by those who knew Oswald, either intimately or casually, how none of them were surprised when he was arrested for the murder of Kennedy. He was a ticking time bomb. They all tell a similar story about Oswald, how he was a high IQ young man but also someone who was cold, aggressive, callous, a true misfit who was always looking for a fight, who thought he was hard done by and who was always looking for a way to make himself famous. He found that “something” that awful day in November 1963, he murdered two men, first the president, and then Officer Tippit.

I’ve been thinking over the last few days why so many don’t want to believe in the reality of history, instead preferring to believe in Alex Jones type conspiracies, such as the grassy knoll, a CIA/FBI conspiracy, Russians, Cubans etc. I remember reading a book about the Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna, who was Nicholas II’s younger sister. She and her elder sister survived the revolution whilst her two brothers were murdered. She lived until the early 1960s. For decades after the revolution, she, her sister and other intimate family members, such as Prince Phillip’s mother and grandmother, were plagued by stories of Anna Anderson and harassed by Anderson’s supporters and serial fantasists who insisted that Anna Anderson was the real Grand Duchess Anastasia, who’d somehow miraculously survived that ghastly night in the cellar in Ekaterinburg. Olga and other intimate family members did meet Anna Anderson and after meeting her they knew she was an imposter who was being used by unsavoury fantasists. Yet no matter how much they said Anna Anderson wasn’t the Grand Duchess, no matter how much they said they had known the real Grand Duchess and that Anna Anderson bore no resemblance to the young women murdered with her family in a cellar, their opinions were always rubbished and dismissed. Olga was asked by the biographer as to why people didn’t want to accept her account, after all she was the aunt of Anastasia and she had known her intimately, and Olga said, rightly, that people don’t want to accept reality because the fantasy, the made-up, the invention, is always so much more interesting. It’s the same with the assassination of November 1963, the fantasy is much more interesting than the reality of a misfit murdering a president.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 8:15 pm

It’s the same with the assassination of November 1963, the fantasy is much more interesting than the reality of a misfit murdering a president.

That’s a good summary of the whole situation, Cassie. There was no grand conspiracy. Oswald acted alone. Deal with it, and move on.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 8:16 pm

I mean, do you lot listen to yourselves? How do you cope with the cognitive dissonance of pretending you are a downtrodden member of the righteous prole army… but then also devote yourself in head and heart to the cults of personality run by arsehole billionaires Elon Musk and Donald Trump?

I can only conclude that you are so dumb that you don’t understand how foolish you look.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 21, 2022 8:18 pm

the fantasy is much more interesting than the reality

That’s the human bean: believe what you want to believe. We’re a pathetic species.

custard
custard
December 21, 2022 8:19 pm

I can only conclude that you are so dumb that you don’t understand how foolish you look.

Look in the mirror dickhead.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 8:20 pm

I think we should wait till we’ve heard from Groogs. This has spooks written all over it.

Zipster
December 21, 2022 8:22 pm

Long Covid may well be real, but needs to be disaggregated from more than just a general viral malaise (or even worse, some sort of malingering). For instance, auto-immune reactions, which I firmly believe do relate to these vaxxes, are not the same as an amorphous ‘long Covid’, even though they may be long lasting and distressing. Similarly, heart related problems are not classically ‘long Covid’ but they may be debilitating and ongoing and due to the vaxxes.

long covid is primarily endothelial dysfunction.this causes organ hypoxia among other problems. this has been known for over a year and still hasnt filtered through to the medical agencies. too busy regulating and fining vitamins companies $13k for making medical claims about vitamins.

custard
custard
December 21, 2022 8:23 pm

Montifa thinks Trump is in the cult of personality.

Put down the crack pipe.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 8:24 pm

I can only conclude that you are so dumb that you don’t understand how foolish you look

How about the cognitive dissonance of arguing economics with people, a number of whom didn’t fail Econs 101?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2022 8:24 pm

I can only conclude that you are so dumb that you don’t understand how foolish you look.

The Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 8:25 pm

the fantasy is much more interesting than the reality

Exception, thus proving the rule: Fantasy football.

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 21, 2022 8:26 pm

Gommers- you have the self awareness of a cat turd. But at least with cat poo, I can console myself with the possibility it might have been the processed remains of the plovers which have long-past pest levels in my area.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 21, 2022 8:27 pm

I’ve been thinking over the last few days why so many don’t want to believe in the reality of history, instead preferring to believe in Alex Jones type conspiracies

Lotsa humans prefer conspiracy stories for some reason. Let’s not get started on HMAS Sydney again though.

Here’s another silly WWII example:

Op. JB

by Christopher Creighton

During the 1930s, the Nazi Party looted thousands of pounds, hiding the proceeds in secret accounts. The key to getting it back lay with Nazi treasurer, Martin Bormann. This book tells the story of Ian Fleming’s raid to snatch Bormann out of Berlin. Creighton led a commando raid into the city.

Goodreads

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 8:27 pm

the fantasy is much more interesting than the reality

See also: Zeeee Media, The Daily Expose and assorted other bargain-bin troofer sites.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 21, 2022 8:30 pm
Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 21, 2022 8:31 pm

I remember seeing a documentary on the JFK shooting. The Warren commission recreated the shooting scene to exactly what is was on that day. They then got a man of the same height and weight as Oswald and asked him to shoot the 3 rounds in the same positions and angles that Oswald shot that day. All the cartridges were expelled and landed in the exact same positions as those in the Texas Book Repository.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:32 pm

m0ntysays:
December 21, 2022 at 6:43 pm
Singer’s position on animals, abortion, euthanasia, and the like, is no different to the Left’s.

His opinion on economics is no different to the Right’s.

LOL. m0nty=fa introduces Singer to the discussion, then spends the next couple of hours explaining why, regardless of his leftard political positions on the key totemic issues of the left (abortion, euthanasia, animal rights), Singer is actually a rabid conservative.

Another rake needed in Aisle 18.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:36 pm

dover0beachsays:
December 21, 2022 at 7:06 pm
His opinion on economics is no different to the Right’s.

His position on economics falls comfortably within the centre left.

If his position on economics is not on the extreme left, then obviously he is a rightie, regardless of his leftard position on the totemic political issues of the left. Duh!

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 21, 2022 8:41 pm

More handouts for certain people:

Entry fees to be introduced at Northern Territory tourism hot spots

By ED BOURKE
REPORTER

Tourists will soon be charged to visit some of the Northern Territory’s most picturesque locations as the government plans to introduce fees to visit its national parks.

A new pay-to-visit system will be implemented in April next year to allow tourism providers and the Traditional Owners of joint managed parks to prepare for the changes, the NT government said.

The scheme had originally been planned to come into effect in July.

NT government minister Selena Uibo said the revenue from entry fees would be vital to protect the region’s natural wonders.

“It is imperative that we are able to care for, maintain and improve our parks. Camping and walking fees for Territory parks have not been increased in over 20 years, and increasing fees will help to generate some of the funds required to support our parks,” Ms Uibo said.

“The revenue from fees that will flow to Traditional Owners in 33 of our parks will provide the opportunity to create jobs on-country and develop Aboriginal tourism opportunities.

“These changes to our parks will protect our spectacular natural landscapes, whilst creating new opportunities to enhance visitor experiences and attract tourists from across the country and the globe.”

NT residents will be exempt from the Parks Pass, which will cost families $25 per day, $75 for two weeks or $150 for an “open pass”.

While Territorians will not have to pay, any visiting families they are bringing to the sites will have to purchase a pass.

The Litchfield, Djukbinj and Nitmiluk (Katherine Gorge) National Parks are among the 50 sites which will require an entry fee.

The NT Department of Environment, Parks and Water Security said “options are still being explored” as to how locals could easily prove they were Territorians and gain free entry.

Park passes were already in place at Uluru and Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, which are both managed by the federal government.

Travellers will be able to book passes online in advance via the NT government’s online booking system.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 8:42 pm

Oswald was already famous, from when he defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 after service at the top secret Atagi Base in Japan, through to when he returned to the US in 1961.
The Russians always thought he was a fraud.
He was also working for the FBI the day a team of Hitters blew JFKs head apart.
Estimates vary, but as many as 100 bullets were fired once the Umbrella Man gave the signal to open fire.

Mater
December 21, 2022 8:44 pm

but then also devote yourself in head and heart to the cults of personality run by arsehole billionaires Elon Musk and Donald Trump?

…and I give you Mike Cannon-Brookes (Green Jesus) and Mark Zuckerberg…just for a whiff of the entree.

At least the right believe in capitalism as a means to lift the “downtrodden”. Acknowledging those who create employment and opportunity is well within our lane.

Surely it’s the height of cognitive dissonance to despise capitalism, yet kiss the arse of some of it’s largest beneficiaries.

Your mistake, Monty, is to assume that pro worker should automatically equate to anti capitalism. First order thinking which is stuck in the 1920’s, but I expect nothing more from you.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 21, 2022 8:44 pm

They then got a man of the same height and weight as Oswald and asked him to shoot the 3 rounds in the same positions and angles that Oswald shot that day. All the cartridges were expelled and landed in the exact same positions as those in the Texas Book Repository.

This is humor, right?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:44 pm

m0ntysays:
December 21, 2022 at 7:32 pm
Singer has been sucking up to billionaires recently as part of this “effective altruism” movement which is thinly-veiled reheated Reaganite trickle-down rubbish. Coddling the idle rich is not the pastime of a progressive.

No, it is undisguised virtue signaling (and buying indulgences for multiple sins of greed, sins much committed by the leftards of our time).

But please keep squirming, it is fun to watch.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:45 pm

PS, tell the person who is providing your talking points that he/she/xe is an idiot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:47 pm

m0ntysays:
December 21, 2022 at 7:36 pm
“The Right is the new champion of the working class,” says the Cat, “anyway how hot is Elon Musk, so dreamy amirite…”

The left has abandoned the working class, someone will step into the gap. Do you prefer conservatives or One Nation?

PS, “so dreamy”? Is there something you want to tell us?

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 8:53 pm

Dan Andrews’ Sicktoria

https://youtu.be/GYZbfVxZJq4

1. Rezone land.
2. Compulsorily acquire at the near worthless, refined value.

Bring back ironic punishments from Hell Labs Inc.

Andrews is a grub.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 21, 2022 8:54 pm

m0ntysays:
December 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm
I mean, do you lot listen to yourselves?

It’s quite clear that you (and many of your ilk) do not listen to yourselves, living high on the hog (no, m0nty=fa, not that one), while pretending to care about those who lost most from Kung Flu.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 8:54 pm

The right has always championed the right of workers to negotiate the best deal for their labour. This has been the way of things going back centuries. They have never believed that market forces not apply to labour.

The idea that labour is singled out to be ground down to the point of ineffectuality is just a cartoonish lefty trope to get around the fact that the right offers more to workers than the left.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 8:59 pm

All you people moaning about Brih-nee Commando going into mental health treatment never knew the full story (the Tele):

A semi trailer fully loaded with Chiko rolls crashed into a tree on the Mid North Coast, trapping the driver. The truck rolled about 5am on Tuesday on the Oxley Highway between Walcha and Yarras.

How do you feel now? Huh?

Seriously, go and have a long hard look at yourselves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 21, 2022 9:00 pm

I’m that upset I didn’t even use blockquotes.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
December 21, 2022 9:00 pm

One for the speculators.
Genesis Minerals (GMD) and St Barbara Mines (SBM) are negotiating a merger with some recent modest rises on the ASX. Both good performers with healthy assets in the Kalgoorlie Goldfields.

Disclaimer; my financial advice is guaranteed to be worth every penny of what you paid for it.

John H.
John H.
December 21, 2022 9:06 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
December 21, 2022 at 7:37 pm
Phelps pushing the Vax whilst not mentioning injury she and partner had is negligence. I hope her patients are looking elsewhere for medical advice.

As someone mentioned above, she’s probably looking for an opportunity to turn hers into a ‘long Covid’ medical practice; she has a bit of a reputation already for dipping into the some of the less evidenced fields of naturopathy to treat with this mode some rather unevidenced but imaginative maladies that are popular with celebs. That stuff turns quite a good buck with what others call ‘the worried well’.

Long Covid may well be real, but needs to be disaggregated from more than just a general viral malaise (or even worse, some sort of malingering). For instance, auto-immune reactions, which I firmly believe do relate to these vaxxes, are not the same as an amorphous ‘long Covid’, even though they may be long lasting and distressing. Similarly, heart related problems are not classically ‘long Covid’ but they may be debilitating and ongoing and due to the vaxxes.

Long COVID, one current hypothesis is CNS penetrance due to low IGA presence in nasal tissues. Animal studies have revealed that the olfactory axons allow for that penetrance and not just viruses. There are studies documenting diesel nanoparticles penetrating to the olfactory bulb and then to the temporal\hippocampal structures. I like the CNS penetrance idea because of the potential for sustained inflammatory cytokine release being generated by both peripheral and central immune cells responding to the presence of nasties. It has echoes of sickness behavior(Benjamin Hart) and studies showing how even very small injections of LPS, a primary inflammatory mediator, causing declines in cognition. Interleukin 1, the primary inflammatory mediator, can also cause fatigue.

Lizzie, full text available if so interested. It also explains why fatigue can be an issue post brain damage, multiple sclerosis, and other neurodegenerative conditions.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28109186/

However, more recently, it has become clear that the brain is the central regulator of fatigue perception. It has been suggested that pro-inflammatory cytokines, especially interleukin-1 alpha (IL-1?) and interleukin-1 beta (IL-1?), play a prominent role in the development of central fatigue, and several studies have been performed to elucidate the connection between inflammation and these central processes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 9:06 pm

Brittany and Co better stock up on Chiko Rolls unless they get the right Commissioner. Which shouldn’t be a problem in the ACT.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:08 pm

The right has always championed the right of workers to negotiate the best deal for their labour.

Hahahahahahaha!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2022 9:11 pm

mUnty have you stopped exploiting your workers? Or just let them go?

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 9:13 pm

Bear Necessities says:
December 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm
I remember seeing a documentary on the JFK shooting. The Warren commission recreated the shooting scene to exactly what is was on that day. They then got a man of the same height and weight as Oswald and asked him to shoot the 3 rounds in the same positions and angles that Oswald shot that day. All the cartridges were expelled and landed in the exact same positions as those in the Texas Book Repository.

I doubt you could pull the shots off in four seconds or less. Maybe a good marksman could.

The cartridges landing in the exact same spot seems fanciful.

Regardless, the wound to Kennedy’s frontal visage is an entry wound.

A 6.5 mm calibre round with a bull nose 168 gr lead bullet at 80 m (still being supersonic) would not leave a clean and neat exit wound. The pressure wave would have been immense.

We all know half of the back of his head was missing.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 9:14 pm

Pedro

The plan is MTL to the moon then BAS to Jupiter.

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 9:15 pm

Animal studies have revealed that the olfactory axons allow for that penetrance and not just viruses. There are studies documenting diesel nanoparticles penetrating to the olfactory bulb and then to the temporal\hippocampal structures.

does it happen with gypsum too?

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 9:17 pm

have you stopped exploiting your workers? Or just let them go?

10/10

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 9:21 pm

The right has always championed the right of workers to negotiate the best deal for their labour.

For clarification, the Union movement has come to distort this beyond recognition.

They prevent businesses from accessing the labour market, allowing them only to deal with them. They have also lumbered businesses where wages were already commensurate with productivity by forcing them to pay the higher wages more appropriate to businesses where productivity was higher – hence driving those other businesses out of business.

They have also deliberately leveraged politics to make their ridiculous excesses protected by law while the options available to businesses are banned. And so on.

Few, if any, forces have destroyed so many Australian jobs as the unions.

Mater
December 21, 2022 9:23 pm

The right has always championed the right of workers to negotiate the best deal for their labour.

Hahahahahahaha!

Unions are a capitalist concept.

Both Communism and National Socialism socialised/absorbed them into the State mechanisms and under a single totalitarian regime, erasing their representative utility.

Read more history, and less talking points.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 9:27 pm

I doubt you could pull the shots off in four seconds or less. Maybe a good marksman could.

Oswald made three shots in eight seconds – well achievable by any average rifleman, with a bolt action rifle.

Regardless, the wound to Kennedy’s frontal visage is an entry wound.

There’s any amount of scientific evidence proving that those shots were fired from behind.
Gerard Posner’s book “Cased Closed” is a good place to begin.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 21, 2022 9:27 pm

Before the political left inserted itself to the detriment of the workers, the commonsense approach that would suddenly be called ‘right’ in order for the left to distinguish itself, produced a productive regime so successful that the left saw it as THE thing to attach itself to like a leech.

The fecundity of capitalism made it a target for the greed of the left.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 21, 2022 9:30 pm

Club Grubbery discussing Phelps news. Three good Dr’s on the panel.

Phillip Altman – see his background at Totality of Evidience if not familiar with him.
Chris Neil cardiologist and President of Australian Medical Proffessional Society
and Ted Steele.

Delta A
Delta A
December 21, 2022 9:31 pm

Psays:
December 21, 2022 at 7:14 pm

Prayers and best wishes to you and your loved ones, P.

Terrible times for you. Stay strong.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 21, 2022 9:32 pm

Regardless, the wound to Kennedy’s frontal visage is an entry wound.

Hmmm:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5934694/

P
P
December 21, 2022 9:34 pm

Thanks Delta A.

I was wondering if any here had any experience with “The Ross Procedure”.
The surgeon advised my son that he was very happy with the op and my grandson’s level of fitness.
I think I’ll sleep well tonight.

rickw
rickw
December 21, 2022 9:37 pm

Peter Singer is a sociopath, he is not partisan at all, just a fruit loop.

His views on most issues are exactly the same as your munty.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:37 pm

For clarification, the Union movement has come to distort this beyond recognition.

Ah yes, the Right are champions of the workers! Unless the workers organise themselves, that’s not allowed.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 9:41 pm

Ah yes, the Right are champions of the workers! Unless the workers organise themselves, that’s not allowed.

Explain why “workers” through unions are allowed to organize themselves but corporation aren’t? This is called anti-trust in the US or illegal collaboration in Australia.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:43 pm

Explain why “workers” through unions are allowed to organize themselves but corporation aren’t? This is called anti-trust in the US or illegal collaboration in Australia.

Don’t try to make a serious argument JC, that sort of thing is not your go. Stick to stoushes and insults.

Entropy
Entropy
December 21, 2022 9:45 pm

Monty you know modern super unions are really employment agencies whose leadership has more in common with the executives and directors of corporations and parliamentarians (frequently intermarried even) than any worker in any shop floors that are left.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 9:48 pm

Don’t try to make a serious argument JC, that sort of thing is not your go. Stick to stoushes and insults.

So you can’t answer the question, you idiot. No one should be allowed to negotiate pay en masse if corps aren’t allowed to cavort.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:48 pm

Monty you know modern super unions are really employment agencies whose leadership has more in common with the executives and directors of corporations and parliamentarians (frequently intermarried even) than any worker in any shop floors that are left.

There is a lot of truth to that, no doubt. However, some unions still do some very good work when they remember who they are supposed to be.

There is a strong correlation between unions losing power and real wages stagnating in relation to productivity.

Entropy
Entropy
December 21, 2022 9:49 pm

It does seem a little one sided eh? But then, it is obvious that the Albanese Government is the most interventionist government in Australia since the Whitlam Government.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 9:50 pm

Really Ent. They’re employment agencies? Strike action threats to individual employers by union reps makes them agencies. I don’t see that.

How do public sector unions work within that when the members basically can’t be fired?

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:51 pm

JC, you’re just salty about Sydney Airport no longer being a solid monopoly buy. If I want the spiv perspective on economics I’ll go straight to you, but in general you talk your book and thus can be ignored.

Entropy
Entropy
December 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Production ti its in Australia? Hahahaha!

I guess you could say that in the transition to computerisation, productivity leapt while less required workers’ wages stagnated. Other wages of course, leapt.
But that is a watershed transition, not general productivity improvement where wages tend to move in line with productivity, unionised or not.
Seventies style Stagflation including for wages is what you end up with after much intervention by the dead hand in Canberra..

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 9:54 pm

It does seem a little one sided eh? But then, it is obvious that the Albanese Government is the most interventionist government in Australia since the Whitlam Government.

I am not sure they have the track record to be saying that yet. Particularly when Dan Andrews has won an election on a platform of reintroducing the SEC!

If Albo starts talking nationalisation, then the excrement will contact the airflow equipment.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 9:55 pm

JC, you’re just salty about Sydney Airport no longer being a solid monopoly buy.

Huh and that is supposed to explain your argument against what I said? This is worse that stupid.

If I want the spiv perspective on economics I’ll go straight to you, but in general you talk your book and thus can be ignored.

What you mean is that you support anti-market behavior by unions , but won’t support corps getting together. Typical .

Entropy
Entropy
December 21, 2022 9:56 pm

JC, look at any multiplex building site. CFMEU organises the labour including recruitment. See also the waterfront.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 10:00 pm

We have the truly ridiculous situation where the state determines wages. Meanwhile the ACCC threatens petrol retailers if they discount petrol too steeply.

Fatboy reckons that’s fine and that I’m being dishonest in mentioning this absurdity.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 10:00 pm

I guess you could say that in the transition to computerisation, productivity leapt while less required workers’ wages stagnated. Other wages of course, leapt.
But that is a watershed transition, not general productivity improvement where wages tend to move in line with productivity, unionised or not.

You could say that, but I suspect that would be an excessive simplification. Technology can always bring change, be it looms or railroads or computers, but there is no good reason that capital should capture all of the benefits of the productivity gains thus provided. Which is essentially what is happening these days, particularly in America.

Seventies style Stagflation including for wages is what you end up with after much intervention by the dead hand in Canberra..

I was promised stagflation for years and years by the Doomlord, funnily enough it never happened.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 10:02 pm

Entropy says:
December 21, 2022 at 9:56 pm

JC, look at any multiplex building site. CFMEU organises the labour including recruitment. See also the waterfront.

And it’s collusion Ent. Multiplex doesn’t give a rats as long as they get the margin. This wouldn’t occur in a free labor and goods&services market.

m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 10:08 pm

What you mean is that you support anti-market behavior by unions , but won’t support corps getting together.

I daresay if we tried your laissez-faire approach, the tumbrels would soon be a-creaking. Careful what you wish for.

The balance of power has definitely swung towards corporations since the 1980s, you can see that in inequality stats and the gutting of antitrust enforcement. This is something that the Right has been (allegedly) fighting against lately, in the form of globalisation. Who do you think runs the globalist agenda? Certainly not unions. It’s multinational corporations and their extremely well-compensated executives, who merge and acquire to form megacorps who are increasingly immune to national tax laws.

Of course you lot claim to be against globalisation, but it’s not as if you want to raise taxes on them.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 10:09 pm

Yeah. Sure!

Entry wounds multiple orders of magnitude larger than exit wounds.

This is quite unbelievable.

I assert there has never been a murder victim other than John Kennedy where this has been claimed.

“I built a model and got it published” is not good enough. Go and test it with repeatability. Sure, we can’t go around shooting people. I have never seen this happen with any small game and it defies ballistics and forensic medicine. I doubt war veterans have seen it happen. I doubt you could find a pathologist who has ever seen this.

Let’s say the shot sheared off the back of Kennedy’s head. That would have made the bullet very unstable. It likely would have yawed heavily to its left. It would likely still be supersonic and left an exit wound that would have totally obliterated Kennedy’s face.

Cartridge ejection that matches exactly for two separate sets of multiple rounds (3 or 4). The statistical improbability of that is astronomical. Given possible Soviet or Cuban involvement, it is understandable why such ambit claims were made. A nuclear WWIII was not worth risking.

The funny thing about 3 or four shots in 4, 6 or 8 seconds is the answer is the same. “Oh that’s very easy”. 3 shots in 8 seconds is a lot easier than 4 in 4. What matches the actual sound recording? Is that possible?

I just can’t accept Oswald acted alone, nor did consequential US official investigations.

The CIA came forward in 2014 and admitted they withheld evidence that might have put the US in a poor strategic position – such as their own communication with Oswald. Their position was to manipulate the findings as they believed American security was assured by “Oswald acting alone for inexplicable reasons”.

JC
JC
December 21, 2022 10:14 pm

I daresay if we tried your laissez-faire approach, the tumbrels would soon be a-creaking. Careful what you wish for.

We’ve tried a laissez-faire in the labor market? When?

The balance of power has definitely swung towards corporations since the 1980s, you can see that in inequality stats and the gutting of antitrust enforcement. This is something that the Right has been (allegedly) fighting against lately, in the form of globalisation. Who do you think runs the globalist agenda? Certainly not unions. It’s multinational corporations and their extremely well-compensated executives, who merge and acquire to form megacorps who are increasingly immune to national tax laws.

Unions have basically gutted every industry they’ve put their mitts on.

Of course you lot claims to be against globalisation, but it’s not as if you want to raise taxes on them.

I have? When?

Indolent
Indolent
December 21, 2022 10:14 pm
m0nty
m0nty
December 21, 2022 10:17 pm

We’ve tried a laissez-faire in the labor market? When?

1789 in Paris comes to mind.

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2022 10:17 pm

Another rake needed in Aisle 18.

More like Trap 2. That’s where the shite is these days…………….

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 10:24 pm

This is really quite interesting and incredible.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/jfk-assassination-john-mccone-warren-commission-cia-213197

“HISTORY DEPT.”

Yes, the CIA Director Was Part of the JFK Assassination Cover-Up

John McCone was long suspected of withholding information from the Warren Commission. Now even the CIA says he did.

By PHILIP SHENON October 06, 2015

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 21, 2022 10:31 pm

Just saw the Qld police funeral on their ABC… got to say there was a lot to not like. The dedicated black arms, the military medals, the faux last post, the highjacked and bastardized Binyan, the cortege, the escort, the stadium full of uniforms.
Are we going to do this every time a policeman is killed on an operation? Or only when they take a Bearcat to meet a “right wing conspiracy theorist”?

custard
custard
December 21, 2022 10:35 pm

to quote Steve Bannon

You are listening to the primal scream of a dying regime

He’d be right about that

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2022 10:45 pm

Backpacker walks into a rundown bar in Mexico, orders a beer, notices a big jar jammed with cash behind the bartender.

“What’s that?” he asks. Bartender: “It’s a contest we’ve had running for years now. You put $20 in, then you find out how to win it all”.

The backpacker shrugs and throws down money. “Okay, you have to complete 3 challenges to win. First up, you must drink this in one go”. The bartender pulls out a bottle of black liquid with a faded label. “This is devil’s tequila, made by a crazy lady in the hills outside of town!”

“Second, out back of the bar we have the most vicious Rottweiler EVER! He’s had a rotten tooth for years that causes him much pain. You must remove it!”

“And finally, upstairs there is the world’s oldest prostitute, 107, and she has never experienced an orgasm. You must pleasure her!”

“Ready?” The backpacker nods, slams his beer, grabs the bottle and chugs the entire thing. He then spends several minutes writhing and pinballing around the bar in a drunken stupor, before a handful of locals gleefully grab him by his jacket and eject him out the back door.

Then the whole bar stops moving as they listen to a cacophony of screams, barks, growls, and general canine/human mayhem. Everything goes silent for a few minutes, and the locals are just getting nervous and heading towards the door.

Suddenly however it bursts open. The backpacker stumbles in, clothes shredded, looks at them and asks: “Alright, I’m ready, show me the hooker with the toothache!”

Johnny Rotten
December 21, 2022 10:47 pm

When anger rises, think of the consequences.

– Confucius

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 21, 2022 10:51 pm

You know I wasn’t making excuses for Phelp’s sitting on her and her partner’s vaccine injuries, I was not invoking the spirit of Hilary Clinton, I’m saying she should have spoken then but instead she was all Ozsage, and now when it’s too late for most she’s speaking up.

Feeling a little restless rosie?

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2022 10:52 pm

food!

the missus’ job to cook tonight and she’s decided its fish’n’chips

which means I&J (or a branded version thereof) bloody fish fillets and roast potato

What’s wrong with Ling?
Cant risk the bones. she reckons
But there’s no bones in Ling, woman.
what-ever
What about Gummy Shark?
no.

I made a special trip to ColesWorth for fresh dill and knocked up a Tartare with cornichons and capers and mayo etc

we sat down to eat and I’m like, “WTF? where’s the salad?”

“well, lucky you bought the dill”, she says

cohenite
December 21, 2022 11:03 pm

There is a strong correlation between unions losing power and real wages stagnating in relation to productivity.

You such a liar dickless. One of Trump’s great victories was raising wages and employment, especially amongst minorities while at the same time decreasing tax on corporations and bureaucratic imposition. Trump shows that in a vibrant economy both wages and employment and corporate profit increase.

I’d wish you ill but being a dickless cuckold makes that superfluous. In the meantime a great speech on energy by Mark Latham.

custard
custard
December 21, 2022 11:03 pm

I had no idea about the Payseur family until yesterday.

Makes you maybe stop and prop.

Don’t use google to research

Use another search engine

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 11:12 pm

Real wages grew 400% in the west in the go go capitalist 19th century, despite the Crimean, US Civil & Napoleonic Wars & revolutions of 1789, 1830, 1848 and so on.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2022 11:14 pm

custardsays:
December 21, 2022 at 11:03 pm
I had no idea about the Payseur family until yesterday.

Makes you maybe stop and prop.

Don’t use google to research

Use another search engine

All I got was disgusting crap about Jews being blood sucking satanists.

Is this the shit you want me to read?

cohenite
December 21, 2022 11:15 pm

Whacky world of islam:

Jihad Watch

Geller

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2022 11:17 pm

“Sliante ” to all you mob.

Finished harvest in the Wheatbelt, and it was a fvcking RIPPER! Three tonnes to the hectare at $380 a tonne…..

custard
custard
December 21, 2022 11:20 pm

Do a duck duck go search dot and see what you get, that’s what I did

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  1. My accountant informs me that I have made an obscene amount of money during the year, No amount of money…

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