Open Thread – Tue 27 Dec 2022


Cabins along the Loing Canal, Sunlight Effect, Alfred Sisley, 1896


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JC
JC
December 30, 2022 1:41 pm

About 20 years ago, I read someone making the claim that we would get to the point where nations would be fighting for young immigrants. I couldn’t see it.

I reckon we’re getting awfully close to that point in time.

Western fertility rate is around 1.6 and lower.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 1:44 pm

I’m worried about Rex Anger.
He seems different somehow to the last time he was here.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 1:48 pm

Rex is great and ripping Ken Worth limb from limb. He is terrific at it.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 1:52 pm

A young boy enters a barber shop and the barber whispers to his customer. ‘This is the dumbest kid in the world. Watch while I prove it you.’ The barber puts a dollar bill in one hand and two quarters in the other, then calls the boy over and asks, ‘Which do you want, son?’ The boy takes the quarters and leaves. ‘What did I tell you?’ said the barber. ‘That kid never learns!’ Later, when the customer leaves, he sees the same young boy coming out of the ice cream store. ‘Hey, son! May I ask you a question? Why did you take the quarters instead of the dollar bill?’ The boy licked his cone and replied, ‘Because the day I take the dollar, the game is over!’

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 1:53 pm

Life is too short for long-term grudges.

– Elon Musk

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 1:53 pm

American fertility rate began to take a hit (below replacement) since 2010. The decline has been inexorable.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=US+fertility+rate

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Farmer Gez says: December 30, 2022 at 8:48 am
Hop farmers won’t take the unvaxed.
Probably not farmers but labour hire companies complying with the TaliDan junta’s mad edicts.
Farmers won’t ask you and won’t give a shit about vaccines. Everyone ignored the need to be vaccinated to deliver grain last harvest. The only masks at bunkers is to keep the dust out of your lungs.

Can’t speak for hops growers, coz there’s none around here (man is there some specialist gear in that game), graingrowers (i.e. real farmers) don’t give a hoot, but the horticulture & orchardists (glorified gardeners) can be ultra-strict about it, they took one helluva hit over lockdowns & are understandably very jumpy – biosecurity is a very precarious matter with them at the best of times.

Robert Sewell
December 30, 2022 1:55 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

Let me just point out that it is not a crime to be a ‘dunderhead’ or a ‘serial pest’ or even a ‘cranky old fart’. Other things maybe so.

And that, Knuckle Dragger is why I deliberately put ‘dunderhead’ or a ‘serial pest’ or even a ‘cranky old fart’ separately.
So why could you not refrain from trying on that I was suggesting otherwise?
So here’s a handy bit of advice – READ what I posted. REPLY to what I posted, Not what you THINK I posted just so you can get in a free kick without any consequences.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 2:01 pm

JCsays:

December 30, 2022 at 1:48 pm

Rex is great and ripping Ken Worth limb from limb. He is terrific at it.

Yes.
And that is God’s work.
But you don’t think Rex has changed somewhat?

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Possibly. Perhaps it’s an imposter.

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 2:03 pm

American fertility rate began to take a hit (below replacement) since 2010. The decline has been inexorable.

it actually plummeted in the 70s, but I suspect immigration was used to push it up for a while

the 70s is when all the gender equality crap came into vogue

Bluey
Bluey
December 30, 2022 2:04 pm

Short but good read.

The key takeaway is this: When it comes to Leftists, we are not dealing with honest people who want what is best for society but are tragically mistaken about how this can be achieved. Such individuals certainly exist on the Left, but the average Leftist is spiteful, malicious, and vindictive. They cannot be reasoned with or rationally convinced of their “mistakes” because they are driven by deep-rooted biological and psychological issues that, in many cases, cannot be resolved. Use extreme caution when dealing with them. They would think nothing of using the system to destroy your life.

https://biopolitics.substack.com/p/the-leftist-personality-left-wing

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2022 2:07 pm

And that, Knuckle Dragger is why I deliberately put ‘dunderhead’ or a ‘serial pest’ or even a ‘cranky old fart’ separately.

No, you used the exact words I did last night when I was talking about editorial licence portraying nasty old men with convictions for sexual assault as ‘cranky old farts’, and contrary to certain media reports that salt-of-the-earth working men were deliberately being targeted solely because they were carrying two inch pocket knives

‘Dunderhead’ and ‘serial pest’ were Categories (1) and (2) in how to attract attention you don’t want.

So why could you not refrain from trying on that I was suggesting otherwise?

Because you were.

So here’s a handy bit of advice – READ what I posted. REPLY to what I posted

Gee, ta. Here’s a handy bit of advice back – have some context and background on what was discussed, prior to wandering in swinging feeble, old-timer haymakers.

Like I’m taking advice from iodine hoarders. Good one Robbie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 2:07 pm

JCsays:

December 30, 2022 at 2:01 pm

Possibly. Perhaps it’s an imposter.

Maybe.
I sort of doubt that.
I think it is the same person but just changed somewhat.
Maybe he had some life-changing experience during his little Cat sabbatical prior to the Rexurexion.
I’ll ask him next time he drops by.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 2:08 pm

Honestly, who doesn’t carry a pocket knife, cable ties and a roll of duct tape with them everywhere just in case?
I know I do.

I used to joke about that if I was detailing a car and had seats ripped out.

Apparently that’s bad taste.

m0nty
December 30, 2022 2:09 pm

the 70s is when all the gender equality crap came into vogue

Whose fault is it: women who didn’t want to be married to dud men… or the dud men?

Figures
Figures
December 30, 2022 2:17 pm

Immunity comes from antibodies. There is no mimicry, the purpose of vaccination is for the body to generate genuine antibodies.

Natural infection also – so we’re told – produces antibodies monty. Vaccination mimics that. Stop acting dumb.

Even if it’s not acting.

During an asymptomatic infection, no matter what the disease, you do not have a “harmless portion” of the virus in you.

If it’s not doing any harm then it’s harmless. That’s how words work.

The problem you seem to be having here is believing that a disease has to be binary, that you have it or you don’t

“Why can’t you just believe two contrary things at once? The government says we should.”

You need to answer the question. Does harbouring a virus make you more or less susceptible to illness later?

This is patently foolish thinking on your part.

See above.

The body hosts invasions by countless amounts of virus cells every day, most of which are controlled by the body’s defence systems.

Just so you know, the ubiquity of germs is an astonishingly poor argument for germ theory. And even if you still believe in GT your ubiquity argument demolishes the importance of vaccination. Long before a baby has gotten all their shots, they have, presumably been exposed to these viruses. So, presumably, they already have immunity. So the vaccines are pointless.

I thought I told you to dig up!

Sometimes those defences get overwhelmed, mostly they hold up.

If they do get overwhelmed how on earth do we recover?
Dig up!

Your failure to grasp concepts understood by primary school children reflects only on you, not on science.

Oh well then in that case you can ask a schoolkid to answer what you and Dot cannot.

Does harbouring a virus make you more or less susceptible to illness later?

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 2:33 pm

Whose fault is it: women who didn’t want to be married to dud men… or the dud men?

What does it mean if women initiate 80% of divorces?

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 2:38 pm

well smutley, you managed to get married so there is no excuse for anyone else

the actual data show conclusively the more education women get the less children they have.

the magic number seems to be about 10 years. so pushing women into higher education and in fact even yr 11 & 12 in oz, is a recipe for civilisational collapse

there is absolutely no reason for women to be in the workforce, leaving the state to educate kids has been a catastrophe.

universal suffrage must go as a starting point to reclaiming a sustainable population

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 2:56 pm

Anyone wanting a look at the very model of a green left loon with a national platform should watch this clip.
Oh, and hes being interviewed by a cretin from “the New Scientist”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQGTViNgsM

Gorgeous George Monopod of the gruinid doing a Q&A on envionment issues.

In particular, to use his words, the most destructive activity to have ever bighted the earth
..
Unbelievably damaging thing

FARMING!!!!!

The ignorant pillock then waffles about a ‘revelation’ he has that free range is not as efficient as intensive, something people actually farming have known… oh- forever.
Mong from New Scientist, instead of stating “you know nothing about farming, yet you claim to have “solutions” licks Monopods moist bits for nuggets of wisdom…
such as
“Taking proteins and fats out of farming altogether”
” switch from annual crops to perennial crops”
” dont use fertilizer or manure’
“switch subsidies for producing agricultural products to ‘good things”
Im not even going to attempt to describe the waffle on gerbil worming. Other than he thinks its simple to work out.

They are so stupid they dont even know how ignorant they are.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2022 3:00 pm

The fog went home, the rain cleared and the clouds allowed a bit of blue sky some visiting rights.
Took the ferals for a walk down the road. Front gate was shut, that means a local is moving livestock to another property. I was in luck, the move had just started. A couple of hundred merino ewes and lambs. What a beautiful sight. The farmer was cute also. If only I were thirty years younger. LOL!
My smallest feral was giving the sheep a real tongue lashing. He warned them that the chihuahua/foxie cross disguise hid a killer dingo underneath it. What a great day.

m0nty
December 30, 2022 3:15 pm

Oh Zippy, you really are never going to win in life ever again, are you.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 3:16 pm

Carefully selected case meets a carefully selected judge.

The legal basis of Australia’s system of indefinite immigration detention is set to be challenged in a case that could determine the freedom of hundreds of asylum seekers and people whose visas were cancelled.

In a judgment earlier in December, federal court Justice Debra Mortimer said Australia’s immigration system has achieved the “disgraceful objective” of desensitising officers to indefinite detention, making preliminary findings in favour of a man she said had “no real likelihood” of being removed from Australia in the near future.

Mortimer said that departmental officers appear to have taken a “leisurely approach” to removing Tony Sami, a man indefinitely detained after his visa was cancelled, to his country of origin, Egypt.
Advocates believe Sami’s case prepares the ground for a high court appeal to challenge the controversial 2004 decision in Al Kateb, in which Australia’s highest court held indefinite detention is authorised by the Migration Act.

This is whats alleged to be stopping him from deportation.
Sami exhausted all avenues of appeal against his visa cancellation, but remained in detention because Egyptian authorities would not issue him a travel document unless he provided contact details of relatives in Egypt, none of who could be identified.

So in short hes not providing relatives details making his deportation impossible.
Seen it before. Its not new, its not clever and to pretend its a failing by the department rather than a deliberate tactic is willful dishonesty by a number of the involved parties.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 3:18 pm

Whose fault is it: women who didn’t want to be married to dud men… or the dud men?

LOL -this from a hunka hunka burning love with a reverse pivot and no assets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 3:18 pm

m0ntysays:
December 30, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Zippy, I will continue to address you like the pinhead you are.

Likewise.

How many of your thousand deaths have you experienced so far?

m0nty
December 30, 2022 3:21 pm

You need to answer the question. Does harbouring a virus make you more or less susceptible to illness later?

Harbouring a virus makes you more susceptible. Harbouring antibodies makes you less susceptible.

There are certain diseases which hang around with the virus and antibodies at loggerheads within the body, like your cited example of hep B. That situation does not invalidate germ theory. It describes a war inside the body, which sometimes descends into the trenches for long periods.

Your binary thinking only underlines the childish nature of your belief system. You are scared of a complex world comprises of spectra and ranges. You want things to be black and white, because you can’t handle anything more complicated.

Grow up, Figures.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 3:24 pm

Whose fault is it: women who didn’t want to be married to dud men… or the dud men?

Consequently, what does it mean if 80% of divorces are initiated by women?

Also note women report consistently declining happiness for the last 50 years.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 30, 2022 3:30 pm

So, this is about a lot more than “oh, the vaccines don’t stop transmission.” They appear to proliferate it and also to worsen clinical outcomes. But why?

1) ADE
2) Mareks disease

Gabor
Gabor
December 30, 2022 3:33 pm

m0nty says:
December 30, 2022 at 3:21 pm

You need to answer the question. Does harbouring a virus make you more or less susceptible to illness later?

Harbouring a virus makes you more susceptible. Harbouring antibodies makes you less susceptible.

There are certain diseases which hang around with the virus and antibodies at loggerheads within the body, like your cited example of hep B. That situation does not invalidate germ theory. It describes a war inside the body, which sometimes descends into the trenches for long periods.

Your binary thinking only underlines the childish nature of your belief system. You are scared of a complex world comprises of spectra and ranges. You want things to be black and white, because you can’t handle anything more complicated.
Grow up, Figures.

Well said M0nty.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 3:34 pm

Nothing like for me.
If it were more oriented to larger towns in Portugal Spain France and Italy I’d have smashed it.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 3:35 pm

Inflation is taxation without legislation.

– Milton Friedman

Speedbox
December 30, 2022 3:38 pm

Youth Advocacy Centre chief executive Katherine Hayes said young people who stole cars were often disengaged and were seeking a sense of belonging.

But Ms Hayes said social media was making the problems worse. “Some of the crime gangs we are aware of require posting of car theft to join the gang,” she said. “It gives the young people a platform to boast about what they are doing to a very large audience, so social media does have a really big part to play.”

Queensland Minister for Children and Youth Justice Leanne Linard also blames social media for the increase in repeat offenders at the state’s three youth detention centres. In north Queensland, 96 per cent of children detained in Townsville’s Cleveland Youth Detention Centre between July 2020 and June 2021 were charged with another crime within a year of being released. The figures, recently released by Ms Linard, showed similar rates of repeat offenders at Brisbane Youth Detention Centre (92 per cent) and West Moreton Youth Detention Centre (84 per cent).

So, there you have it. The kids are disengaged but mostly, it’s the fault of social media.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-30/engine-immobiliser-car-theft-trial-north-queensland-racq/101815792

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 30, 2022 3:39 pm

Ruminating on the subject of medicine after reading the comments here. I think that there might be two streams, one very effective, the other much less so.

The very effective stream might be called the engineering stream. It includes most surgery. …….. usually handled very competently, and the incompetents are usually weeded out quickly (except where politics intervenes, as in Queensland’s Dr Death case).

The less effective stream might be called the nostrums stream. It relies on the products of the pharmaceutical industry…..

100% agree, I spoke to this in an interview recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCAjxhw-oDI

There is the ‘acute’ stream which concentrates on fixing broken parts, and (with some exceptions) does this pretty well. Think surgery for bowel obstruction, plating your broken tibia etc.

There is also the ‘chronic’ stream which screens patients for chronic illness sometimes real (eg diabetes) sometime imaginary (eg hypercholesterolaemia) and matches said illness to a medication which doesnt fix the problem, but is instead required for life.

Unfortunately, the bulk of medical effort is now directed at #2, which is why ‘health care’ (better termed ‘sick care’) is becoming ever more expensive, yet the population is also becoming ever sicker.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 3:39 pm

Wifey has two gal nieces (sisters) who are both qualified docs. One had a kid, while the other married last year and is having one in about six months.

The one with a kid says she only wants to works a few hours a week while the other says she isn’t heading back. Both are married to fellow docs.

That’s all good, except the state spent a fortune training these two and the taxpayer lost out big time. These aren’t isolated occurrences either. Sheilas cost the state a fortune as they either don’t hang around in the workforce or end up HR’ing corporations to death.

The world would be better off if the gals went to finishing school.

Also, what the hell is going on.? In the summer youngish gals wear revealing shorts with parts of their arse heading out and their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting. I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs .

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 3:39 pm

The Pope was having a shower. Although he’s very strict about celibacy he occasionally felt he needed to exercise the Papal wrist, and this happened to be one of those occasions. Just as he reached the Papal climax he saw a photographer taking a picture of the Holy seed flying through the air.

“Hold on a minute!” said the Pope “You can’t do that – you’ll destroy the reputation of the Church!” “This is my big lottery win” said the photographer “I’ll be financially secure for life with these photos!”

So the Pope offered to buy the camera from the photographer. After much negotiation they eventually settled on a figure of two million Euros.

The Pope clothed himself and headed off to destroy the images on the camera.

Along the vast Vatican hallways, he bumped into his personal housekeeper.

Being a bit of a photography buff, she noticed the camera and said “That looks like a really expensive digital SLR camera, how much did it cost you?” Not being one to lie the Pope replied “Two million Euros…”

“TWO MILLION EUROS!” replied the housekeeper “They must have seen you coming!”

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 3:39 pm

You need to answer the question. Does harbouring a virus make you more or less susceptible to illness later?

This is quite the open ended question.

It depends what it is and if you fought the infection or not, what your level of immunity was and even how old you were and if you are a woman and gestating or not, or if you want children but don’t have any yet.

HIV
Herpes zoster
Human papilloma viruses
Epstein Barr virus
Mumps
Measles
Rubella

Many different outcome from those alone, multimodal fractal trees branching off into hundreds if not thousands of possibilities.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 3:42 pm

Also, what the hell is going on.? In the summer youngish gals wear revealing shorts with parts of their arse heading out and their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting. I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs .

Accept masculine women you incel!

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 30, 2022 3:43 pm

Be glad to see a person like that shitholed for being a pimp, but the politicization of everything makes a person ask “why now”.

Because no one was really sure where he was until he posted the youtube with a pizza box with the name of a Romanian Pizzeria plastered all over it*. When the Romanian Police saw that they put 2 & 2 together and were able to arrest him

Hint : if posting videos keep anything that might identify where you are off screen

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2022 3:46 pm

Unbelievable sense of entitlement.
I’m willing to bet ten bucks the dog shit hoarder doesn’t even own a car.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 3:46 pm

What we know about the global financial crisis is that we don’t know very much.

– Paul Samuelson

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 3:48 pm

Also, what the hell is going on.? In the summer youngish gals wear revealing shorts with parts of their arse heading out and their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting. I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs .

Tramp stamps- I can just (only just) tolerate them on dudes. It’s relief to meet a nice long lady now and then- to find out that they do still exist.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 3:48 pm

nice young lady

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2022 3:50 pm

The world would be better off if the gals went to finishing school.

Preach it.

their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting….. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs.

Can I get an Amen?

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 3:52 pm

Meanwhile the gp shortage gets worse and women are encouraged to study medicine.
They need to double the places available.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 3:52 pm

Tell it Daddy!

Testify!

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 30, 2022 3:52 pm

The modern woman spends her peak fertility years, that being 18-25, studying, partying and travelling.

Then believes she shouldn’t have to ‘settle’ for a guy in her 30’s after being railed by countless guys in her younger years.

As for guys, they are scared of false rape accusations due to saying “Hi”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2022 3:53 pm

Tramp stamps- I can just (only just) tolerate them on dudes.

No. No no no.

Tramp stamps, aka licence plates, aka aiming marks. These are okay on the ladeees if well presented, but never, ever on dudes. The only exceptions are raging flamers and blokes who kept drinking the vodka-laced schooies at bachelor parties.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 3:55 pm

I used to want to get a barbed wire one on my upper arms but decided not to

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 3:56 pm

A husband comes home from the night shift to find his wife snuggled up in bed with the sheets pulled up right over her whole head, obviously not wanting to be disturbed.

Not to be denied, he slips in under the sheet anyway and begins making love to her. He gets out of bed again to go downstairs and get something to eat. He is absolutely startled by his wife standing in the kitchen making breakfast and coffee!

“How did you get down here so fast?” he asks. “We were just upstairs making love!” “WHAT?!” his wife screams. “Oh my God!” the wife gasps. “That’s my mother up there you sick bastard! She came over complaining of a headache and I told her to go lie down for a while”.

The wife rushes upstairs and says to her mom: “Mother, why didn’t you say anything?” To which the MIL replies: “Hah, I haven’t spoken to that arsehole in 15 years, I wasn’t about to start now!”

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 3:56 pm

Rosie

NO! 🙂

What they need to do is keep the current funding system going for the fellas. I’m not being “Telibanic”as I would allow gals to study medicine, but they or their parents would have to pay their own way to the last cent. And no loans either. In fact I’d push that for all study disciplines.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 3:58 pm

Tramp stamps, aka licence plates, aka aiming marks. These are okay on the ladeees if well presented,

Dude, have you seen what’s out there. Tree stumps for legs in short shorts and masses of ink strewn all over the stumps. Marry one, I dare you!

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 4:00 pm

Cheap sluts. No thanks.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2022 4:01 pm

Too many female quacks contributed to the mass covid hysteria.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 4:02 pm

Like Ryan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 4:04 pm

their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting….. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs.

Leg tatts are ordinary.
But the ones on the front of the thigh are next level.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2022 4:06 pm

Tree stumps for legs in short shorts and masses of ink strewn all over the stumps.

Hang on. Stop. Trampies are the ones on their lower backs, just above the crack. The hail-damaged dreamcatchers and poorly-inked cat pictures on the fronts of their thighs are another beast entirely.

Marry one, I dare you!

Don’t. Just don’t.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 4:06 pm

JC

Also, what the hell is going on.? In the summer youngish gals wear revealing shorts with parts of their arse heading out and their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting. I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs .

The tatts are sometimes called “tramp stamps”.

Megan
Megan
December 30, 2022 4:08 pm

and its not paxlovid which is just a patentable version of ivermectin that sells for $200 a tablet

I departed the plague word at my local hospital with 18 of the things in my bag. The Prince, got molnupiravir at local pharmacy, for concession price of $5.80. Full cost on the packet – $1100.39.

I don’t recommend the paxlovid. I ended up with the most vile metallic taste in my mouth. Eucalyptus and honey boiled lollies only thing that helped and then only for the duration of consuming it slowly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 4:09 pm

miltonf

Snap.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2022 4:09 pm

and its not paxlovid which is just a patentable version of ivermectin that sells for $200 a tablet.

Wouldn’t touch Paxlovid, Zipster. It’s not a new drug, as I understand, and was offered as a result of Remdesivir and Molnupiravir having adverse effects. However, evidence suggests that Paxlovid causes Covid Rebound. Certainly two of my friends who took Paxlovid after contracting Covid were reinfected just weeks later. Yet nobody seems to know this. Countless friends breathlessly advise to get “the anti-viral” -it will fix you in a couple of days.

You just give up.

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 4:10 pm

That’s all good, except the state spent a fortune training these two and the taxpayer lost out big time. These aren’t isolated occurrences either. Sheilas cost the state a fortune as they either don’t hang around in the workforce or end up HR’ing corporations to death.

or karenising the public service or whinge about sexual harassment in the work place with their hands out for compensation.

women make mediocre workers at most jobs are a serious liability in the police force to the point where female cops have to have a male officer to protect them where ever they go.

its a communist comedy and the joke is on a dying civilisation

Megan
Megan
December 30, 2022 4:10 pm

Geez, the plague seems to have damaged my ability to spell and construct a grammatical sentence.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2022 4:12 pm

Incidentally, one of the two friends who got Covid Rebound after taking Paxlovid is a Professor Emeritus (medical) from a renown Australian university.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 4:12 pm

I read someone figuring out the actual number of men sheilas find desirable and want to marry. In US context.

1. Must be at least 6 feet tall 14.5% of males.
2. Good income and great prospects. Call it an income over 150K.
(5.3% of that number are those who make between $100,000-$150,000, and only 0.1% make over a million per year.)
I’m calling it 7% of men

3. Good looking and non-beta. Call it 5%?

4. Between the ages of 20 to 35 years. Total population is 60 million approx then halve that for men. So there are around 30 million men of marriageable age in the US.

30,000,000 X 14.5% X 7% X 5% = ~15,000

30 million gals are after 15,000 guys. And dot reckons gals have gotten progressively unhappier through the decades. Gee, I wonder why.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 4:13 pm

Beached Whales, those fat women with the tatts (Fats with Tatts) are great food for Great White Sharks. MontyPox Virus ,just stay out of the water as it is not safe for you either. But, on the other hand, do us all a favour and go swimming. If you can swim that is. Take Head Case and a few others as well. Munch, munch.

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 4:14 pm

Yet nobody seems to know this. Countless friends breathlessly advise to get “the anti-viral” -it will fix you in a couple of days.

there are various other actual anti-virals, good luck getting any access to them

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:16 pm

Heh. 4/4*

Eat your hearts out chickie babes. He’s out at golf right now so I can talk about him behind his back.

* the $$ came later. That’s what “prospects” look like.

Speedbox
December 30, 2022 4:17 pm

JC says:
December 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm
Also, what the hell is going on.? In the summer youngish gals wear revealing shorts with parts of their arse heading out and their legs are covered in ugly tattoos. It’s really disgusting. I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs .

Melbourne Cup day is a classic for this. Young women have obviously spent a great deal of time over their appearance and dress – only to expose extensive tattoos on their shoulders, arms and elsewhere. Why would a woman (or anyone) want a tattoo of a hippo on one shoulder and a giraffe on the other? Or Chinese symbols? Or a dragon, in full colour!

I can imagine the tattoos are attractive to some males but for the most part, will probably only attract a limited demographic. Don’t whinge when the men whose career paths are destined for the upper echelons, treat you like a hooker.

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2022 4:20 pm

Zipster at 4.10 pm

or karenising the public service or whinge about sexual harassment in the work place with their hands out for compensation.

women make mediocre workers at most jobs are a serious liability in the police force to the point where female cops have to have a male officer to protect them where ever they go.

its a communist comedy and the joke is on a dying civilisation

I could not agree more. No need to add anything further to the above. Says it all.

Figures
Figures
December 30, 2022 4:21 pm

Harbouring antibodies makes you less susceptible.

???

So then how do we go from having the virus to having antibodies?

The story is that harbouring virus leads to creating antibodies. Is that story wrong?

Shouldn’t, if you’re right, vaccines be a matter of injecting antibodies rather than the virus (or some version of)?

Well said monty

No Gabor. It wasn’t. It made no sense. You and Monty just clutched at a straw because you have no idea how to answer this.

Nobody does.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2022 4:22 pm

God I loathe tatts. Be it on men or women. Scars, now scars can be sexy.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:22 pm

I know a young lady who is very embarrassed about her two tiny tattoos. Acquired when very young and foolish and with friends, naturally.

Those great acres of ink are another thing altogether. As the body inevitably goes south due to gravity, those budding roses and skulls will become Dali-esque in their dripping, drooping splendour.

The Metamorphosis of Narcissus.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Scars, now scars can be sexy.

Come up to my abode sometime and I will show you my scars.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 4:27 pm

I can’t think of a worse way to attract young guys. Tatts strewn all over their, frequent, fat legs

JC is pining for a cute owl I think.

Or is this more his taste?

Hes the nightclub Ahab.
“arr but the hour be late, and the blowhole wet”…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 4:28 pm

Is there a Genetic Trait here? – Australian Amish Import at Work

Wild moment woman goes on an angry rampage at a McDonald’s – jumping over the counter to abuse staff and allegedly help herself to food and drinks

. A woman has gone on an angry rampage in an Adelaide city McDonalds store
. Footage shows a woman behind the service counter and going into the kitchen
. It will be alleged she ‘damaged a door and threw a bottle of water at staff’
. She has been charged with disorderly behaviour, property damage and assault

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2022 4:29 pm

I also hate inking. It always looks dirty so I assume the tatted is also unclean.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:30 pm

– I will only eat organic whole foods, no dairy or animal products because vewy vewy unhealthy, and please, no gluten as it’s deadly on my poor tummy. And I must have only kombucha and other expensive drinks because fermented. My skin will glow with health because of my wise food choices.

– Please, please prick me all over with needles and inject me with ink! Every square inch, mind! Don’t I look lovely?

Idiots.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:32 pm

Don’t fall for it. Alwaysright only wants you to sample his scratchings.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 4:33 pm

Mole

Please. Those are putrid pics. Don’t that!

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 30, 2022 4:34 pm

calli, My what big postings you have.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 30, 2022 4:34 pm
calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:34 pm

😀

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 4:35 pm

Shouldn’t, if you’re right, vaccines be a matter of injecting antibodies rather than the virus (or some version of)?

Because the idea is for your body to make the antibodies you cretin.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 4:38 pm

OCO

I’m invincible. I haven’t had covid. Wifey caught it on the plane back from the US. Not me though. I can’t believe I haven’t had it. People all around me have been testing poz and I don’t get it.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 4:38 pm

Why is our western political class so evil? Where they always that way? I can’t image Barton or Lyons wanting to destroy our livelihoods or even Wran for that matter

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 4:40 pm

The trouble is that uncertainty about numbers propagates through all modelling and forecasting of the pandemic in Australia.

Having a good idea of case ascertainment would improve the accuracy of forecasts, letting governments, hospitals and the public better understand when peaks are coming and how big they will be.

Sure it would. Because all forecasting and modelling in all areas of scientific endeavour have been so very accurate.

A gutted chicken would give better forecasts than your dumb auguries. Go shake a juju rattle and dance around. That’ll work.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 4:41 pm

Please. Those are putrid pics. Don’t that!

I see the awesome beauty has short circuited your linguistic synapses.

The second pic is single again….
https://m.facebook.com/clementineford/photos/a.597443643666067/3771510399592693/?comment_id=3771738979569835
23 Jan 2021 — Marriage is just like a seed stage for true happiness, which is divorce.. 2 yrs Report. Clementine Ford

Getting some strong “Ive found someone who will be paying child support for 18+ years now i dont need no man” vibes here.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 30, 2022 4:41 pm

Pop over to CL’s blog and check out with disgust the latest on the Brisbane stabbing culprits.
Beyond belief.
The judiciary needs royal commission into their competence and abject failure to protect the public from predators.

turnip
turnip
December 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Is there a Genetic Trait here? – Australian Amish Import at Work

Daily Mail: Sorry we are not currently accepting comments on this article.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Regarding the vexed topic of the vaxxes.

There are good studies and crap studies.

Local docs doing their own ‘studies’ of their own patients often produce studies that are not scientifically valid in terms of sampling, hypothesis, variables covered and general epidemiological study design, nor in some cases by the statistical measures of significance they use (t-tests or ancova or others), if they use any at all. Additionally, the biological pathways they posit explaining any correlations found, whether the correlations are spurious or not, are in some cases ludicrous – nanowrigglers etc.

Complex general population epidemiology is a specialty for a very good reason and it is hard to get it right in design and procedural terms. When testing immunological issues studies should be done in step with immunologists advising.

Re the study mentioned above by Duk contrasting a paedatrician’s ‘vaccinated’ vs ‘unvaccinated’ patients, this man’s immediate deregistration (a pretty severe sanction) suggests his work may be suss, although he may just be subject to unwarranted cancelling. It’s hard to tell without reading it. How did he determine nature and extent of vaxx and and time scales for expression of effect, and prior histories indicating existing immunological problems, for instance, as well as identifying and sheeting home to the vaxxes the immune-declared injuries? Possibly there are confounders and biases you could drive a bus through. Any link to it?

Duk, I am personally wary of getting too involved with less than satisfactory studies. Good ones exist already for childhood vaccination. That said, a latency period of post-vaxx immune deficiency may be worth seeking. It would need various sorts of validations in strong testing regimes. Plus it would be hellishly difficult to tease out scientifically when the ideosyncratic immune system responds to many environmental and genetic triggers apart from reactive vaxx remnants; but perhaps indicative work could be done. Ask an immunologist.

I am also pretty fed up with comments such as Matrix’s saying I am barracking for more poorly tested Covid vaxx and lockdown oppressions. That was uncalled for and so were the truly dickless upticks, for it was not what I was doing in the slightest, I am very conscious of the problems of Covid vaxxes and lockdowns, nor was I ‘ranting’. I try to keep my tone and analysis rational.

Duk’s views have a naturopathic bent. That’s OK as long as he keeps his trained scientific hat on.

The politicisation of the Covid vaxx has had many bad consequences. Like the vaxx itself.
I enjoy reading what people have to say about that here, within the confines of science.

JC
JC
December 30, 2022 4:47 pm

There are good studies and crap studies.

How can anyone tell? Over half of all studies turn out to be wrong.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 30, 2022 4:49 pm

There are good studies and crap studies.

That covers most of the possibilities.

Or not.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 4:53 pm

Oh come onsays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:34 pm
Australia had more than 10 million COVID-19 cases this year. But how many more went unrecorded?

More importantly – who gives a shit?

I agree and does anyone believe those test results? What a load of BS. I never got jabbed and never will by an experimental (mental) gene therapy emergency approved drug that was developed and tested at ‘warp speed’. FFS.

And as far as I know I have not had the ‘Rona.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 30, 2022 4:54 pm

vexed topic of the vaxxes.

Vexxination – Kiwi vax.

bespoke
bespoke
December 30, 2022 4:54 pm

My grandfather had tattoos I doubt enyone was stupid enough to diss him for it. I don’t like them personally, though.

Leon L
Leon L
December 30, 2022 4:57 pm

rosie says:
December 30, 2022 at 3:52 pm
Meanwhile the gp shortage gets worse and women are encouraged to study medicine.
They need to double the places available.

We have been there and done that.

From the Australian Medical Students Journal – a puff piece on increasing the number of doctors in Oz from 2010.

Besides Pink Bats in every roof, KRudd increased the number of medical schools and doubled the number of student positions.

The number of medical graduates has gone from 1544 in 2007 to 3066 in 2020.

So doubling graduates didn’t work. Pretty sure 20% of the medical workforce including GPs departed last year.
A feature of the new normal.
Plus most new graduates want to work x3 days a week from 9am to 3pm and be paid more.

The focus of medicine has moved to “prevention” not treatment.
If we weren’t already preventing disease, life expectancy wouldn’t have gone from 55 in 1870 to 65 in 1910 to 80+ in 2020. (A lot of this is not necessarily medicine, but proper engineering, food supplies, sewerage, water etc)
The next 10 years will see these numbers reverse significantly I think, especially with the lunacy of returning our energy and food supplies to the stone age.

The health outcome has moved to the dollar, rather than the patient, as this is in the interest of both doctors and the government.

Minimal reason to be a GP now. You would be better off financially and mentally being a train driver.
The system (public and private) is a shadow of its former self.
Works ok with an acute emergency – heart attack, accident etc, but once the crisis has passed, it is just crap.
And this has all happened before the past three years of madness.

I am pretty sure the answer is not more of the same when this has failed.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 5:00 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:41 pm
Pop over to CL’s blog and check out with disgust the latest on the Brisbane stabbing culprits.
Beyond belief.

The judiciary needs royal commission into their competence and abject failure to protect the public from predators.

From the Comments

– Shy Ted says:
30 December, 2022 at 8:59 am
Well, that answers that
It’s amazing how hard it is to get a non-pixelated pic.

– Rosie says:
30 December, 2022 at 2:59 pm
They are indigenous?
I thought as much.
Different rules.
If they were any other boys they would have gone straight to prison.
The courts have incentivised repeat offending by under age aboriginal youth by effectively offering little or no consequences.

– Rosie says:
30 December, 2022 at 3:00 pm
It’s a political decision to be fair, because the only thing that matters is indigenous incarnation rates.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 5:02 pm

It has been interesting to watch Dr m0nty=fa, BEc (Fail), BJ’ism give us the benefit of his vast medical knowledge today. His colleague, Dr Google, must be exhausted.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 5:03 pm

OldOzziesays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:28 pm
Is there a Genetic Trait here? – Australian Amish Import at Work

Wild moment woman goes on an angry rampage at a McDonald’s – jumping over the counter to abuse staff and allegedly help herself to food and drinks

. A woman has gone on an angry rampage in an Adelaide city McDonalds store
. Footage shows a woman behind the service counter and going into the kitchen
. It will be alleged she ‘damaged a door and threw a bottle of water at staff’
. She has been charged with disorderly behaviour, property damage and assault

Apparently she didn’t get her Happy Meal present and her free tatts.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Plus most new graduates want to work x3 days a week from 9am to 3pm and be paid more

That was my point.
If they are going to keep having fifty percent or more women in medical school they are going to have to continue to increase the number of places to have sufficient GPs.
It doesn’t matter what the focus of this or that is.
It’s simply increasing supply to meet demand.
There are the exact number of places in medicine as students applying?
Seems unlikely.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 5:05 pm

China COVID wave sparks desperate drug scramble across region

Hong Kong | A tsunami of coronavirus infections in China is causing shortages of key drugs across the region as relatives and friends living overseas ship painkillers and antivirals from abroad, driving up prices and forcing some stores to cap purchases.

South Korea’s health ministry warned this week that it would punish the sale of “excessive amounts” of cold medicine to an individual patient, after local media reported that a Chinese customer had bought 6 million won ($7000) worth of drugs in Hanam city in Gyeonggi Province.

Some pharmacies in Taiwan are running low on Panadol cold and flu tablets, while Bloomberg News visited 20 dispensaries in Hong Kong that were out of Panadol and Coltalin pills.

Beijing’s decision to abruptly remove most pandemic restrictions with little preparation is driving an unprecedented number of cases, leaving hospitals and funeral homes overwhelmed.

Almost 37 million people were possibly infected on a single day last week, according to estimates from the government’s top health authority. That’s led to a dearth of critical over-the-counter medicines locally, fuelling the surge in cross-border shipments.

Shen Tsai-Ying, a pharmacist in Taipei, said Panadol was out of stock, and staff were instructed to refuse sales of more than 80 pills of antipyretics to help prevent stockpiling.

“We’re worried that Taiwanese people who work in China or have Chinese spouses will hoard and send antipyretics back,” Huang Chin Shun, chairman of the Taiwan Pharmacists Association, said in an interview.

Ibuprofen, paracetamol and Pfizer’s Paxlovid are among the most sought-after medicines in China, but the supply crunch is forcing residents to queue up for hours outside stores.

Delivery apps say orders could take weeks to arrive. E-commerce platform Meituan said its medicine service provider, starting Thursday, would include an option for pharmacies to help them sell paracetamol and ibuprofen in smaller lots.

Just like the Taipei pharmacy, other outlets in the region such as Singapore supermarket FairPrice and Hong Kong pharmacy chains Watsons and Mannings are responding to the buying spree by imposing purchase limits on Panadol and Nurofen.

Some pharmacies in Japan are following suit, according to 27-year-old Tokyo resident Yichun Geng. She said she could buy only two boxes of the ibuprofen tablet EVE at one outlet to send to family in China.

Tokyo-based Taisho Pharmaceutical Holdings, which makes over-the-counter cold remedy Pabron, said it’s seen an “unexpected, sudden increase” in demand after speculative Chinese social media posts saying the medicine eases COVID-19 symptoms.

Taisho said in an email Thursday that none of the OTCs, including its own, is known to be effective against COVID-19, and advised customers to exercise caution.

Asahi Shimbun reported that the increase in demand for cold medicines is emptying out shelves of drugstores in Japan.

Logistics challenge

For those lucky enough to lay their hands on dwindling supplies, logistics is proving to be a hurdle.

Courier ShunXing Logistics in Singapore is placing caps on the number of COVID-related medical items people can mail due to a “manpower shortage and overcrowding,” it announced in a WeChat post last week. Some branches are allowing a maximum of 50 customers per day to send parcels containing COVID medicines.

The boom has also meant a windfall for some couriers and scalpers, with some charging as much as ten times the retail price for medicines.

Wang, a Singapore-based Chinese energy broker who didn’t wish to disclose her full name owing to sensitivities in China, said one student on e-commerce app Xiaohongshu, or “Little Red Book,” had offered to deliver Panadol to Shandong province when he returned for the holidays, but for a fee of S$40 ($59) plus the drug’s cost of S$7-S$10 per box.

Another Singapore resident, who identified himself as Xu, said his uncle in Shanghai had spent more than 1,000 yuan ($212) on “bulk purchases of useless medicines” in a deal that included a box of the vital Nurofen tablets. “There’s high demand and low supply, so these shops think about making money,” he added.

Bare shelves

In Hong Kong, staff at Mannings had put up signs under bare shelves reading “keep prices down,” next to notices informing customers that sales of cold, flu and pain relief products would be limited to two units per brand in a single transaction due to “a sudden surge in demand”. Watsons has capped Panadol purchases at six boxes.

The high prices and long wait times aren’t deterring those seeking to ride out the wave, which China’s National Health Commission predicts will peak during January.

“I am worried. There are elderly people at home, my grandfather and my grandmother,” said Zhang, a Singapore resident who sent three boxes of Panadol to her family in Anhui. “It’s good to be prepared. They can still use them in the future.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Johnny Rottensays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:13 pm
Beached Whales, those fat women with the tatts (Fats with Tatts) are great food for Great White Sharks. MontyPox Virus ,just stay out of the water as it is not safe for you either.

The last time m0nty=fa was standing in the shallow water, half a dozen Greenpeace volunteers tried to push him back out to sea.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 5:07 pm

A store that sells new husbands has opened in town, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates:

You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

FLOOR 1 – THESE MEN HAVE JOBS

She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

FLOOR 2 – THESE MEN HAVE JOBS AND LOVE KIDS.

“That’s nice” she thinks “but I want more”.

So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:

FLOOR 3 – THESE MEN HAVE JOBS, LOVE KIDS, AND ARE EXTREMELY GOOD LOOKING.

“Wow” she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

FLOOR 4 – THESE MEN HAVE JOBS, LOVE KIDS, ARE DROP-DEAD GOOD LOOKING AND HELP WITH HOUSEWORK.

“Oh, mercy me!” she exclaims “I can hardly stand it!”

Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

FLOOR 5 – THESE MEN HAVE JOBS, LOVE KIDS, ARE DROP-DEAD GORGEOUS, HELP WITH HOUSEWORK, AND HAVE A STRONG ROMANTIC STREAK.

She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:

FLOOR 6 – YOU ARE VISITOR 31,456,012 TO THIS FLOOR. THERE ARE NO MEN ON THIS FLOOR. THIS FLOOR EXISTS SOLELY AS PROOF THAT WOMEN ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE.

THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING AT THE HUSBAND STORE.

PLEASE NOTE: TO AVOID GENDER BIAS CHARGES, THE STORE’S OWNER OPENED A NEW WIVES STORE JUST ACROSS THE STREET, WITH THE SAME RULES.

The First Floor has wives that love sex.

The Second Floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer.

The Third, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Floors have never been visited.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 5:08 pm

I suppose we can draw some conclusions about the international drug buy up apparently being driven by expatriate Chinese?

win
win
December 30, 2022 5:09 pm

I am now on my 4th dose of Covid apart from a runny nose no ill effects . If I die from Pancytopania you can bet it will be Covid on the death certificate

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2022 5:10 pm

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

– Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2022 5:11 pm

“Not me though. I can’t believe I haven’t had it. “

JC, not that you’re aware of. Same with me, I haven’t had Covid either however I may have and not known it.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2022 5:11 pm

“Not me though. I can’t believe I haven’t had it. “

JC, not that you’re aware of. Same with me, I haven’t had Covid either however I may have and not known it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 5:15 pm

JCsays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:47 pm
There are good studies and crap studies.

How can anyone tell? Over half of all studies turn out to be wrong.

I was going to say “Is that all?”, but realised that “over half” actually covers everything up to 99.99999 recurring %, then it goes to “All studies …”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 5:20 pm

However – No Question on Arkancide

Why do Russian tycoons keep falling to their deaths?

The sheer frequency of unusual deaths befalling so many prominent businessmen who have criticised President Vladimir Putin is bound to lead to questions.

The deadliest threat to Russia’s oligarchs this year? Heights. At least eight businessmen have died from falls in 2022, variously tumbling down stairs, off boats, over balconies and out of windows.

The latest to succumb to a bout of fatal vertigo is Pavel Antov, a Moscow-born politician and mogul nicknamed Russia’s “sausage king” for founding meat producer Vladimirsky Standart.

Antov was found dead at the Hotel Sai International in Rayagada, India, after apparently falling from a third-floor window.

He was reportedly visiting the hotel to celebrate his 66th birthday. Days earlier, another member of the party, Vladimir Bidenov, was also found dead surrounded by empty wine bottles.

Indian authorities have chalked up Antov’s death to suicide, blaming depression due to the death of his friend Bidenov.

The sheer number of similar deaths involving Russian oligarchs this year is remarkable, so much so that the phenomenon has garnered its own Wikipedia entry: “2022 Russian businessmen mystery deaths.” There are 21 names on the grim list so far – almost two deaths a month.

Authorities insist there is no foul play. A spate of depression, heart disease and sheer bad luck has beset Russia’s executive class, we are assured.

But it should not be overlooked that many of the men on the list had publicly criticised the war in Ukraine.

Antov called Russia’s missile attacks on Kyiv “terrorism” in posts on WhatsApp earlier this year. He apologised shortly after and claimed he had not written the message, adding he was “a supporter of the president and my country’s patriot” and “shared the goals” of the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine.

The sheer frequency of unusual deaths befalling so many prominent businessmen who have criticised President Vladimir Putin is bound to lead to questions. Even without pointing fingers, it is hard not to spot a pattern. (looking at the numbers in Arkancide at the Top/This Link – There is another pattern in America – and those numbers beat Putin’s numbers easily)

Incidents like these highlight why Western businesses that fled Russia at the start of the year won’t return even after the war in Ukraine inevitably ends. It is simply an unsafe place to do business.

This is hardly new information. Bob Dudley, the former chief executive of BP, famously had to flee Russia in 2008 as a result of what the company termed an “orchestrated campaign of harassment”.

When Dan Rapoport, another critic of the war, fell to his death from a luxury apartment building in Washington in August, campaigner Bill Browder called the circumstances “extremely suspicious”. He should know – he’s been warning about the dangers of doing business in Russia for more than a decade.

Browder was a hedge fund manager who until 2005 was a major investor in Russia. His former lawyer in the country, Sergei Magnitsky, died in prison in 2009 after exposing a massive government fraud. Browder says his friend was denied medical treatment.

Since then, Browder has campaigned for the introduction of laws around the world that strengthen prosecution of human rights abuse in Russia.

Faustian pact

For years, he faced an uphill struggle. Western leaders – and businesses – made a Faustian pact with Moscow: you send us oil and gas, and we’ll tolerate the intolerable.

Even BP remained in Russia after Dudley’s forced departure, only quitting operations at the start of this year as Kremlin forces attacked Ukraine.

Putin’s war has irreparably broken the bitter bargain that kept companies in the country for so long. The West cannot turn a blind eye to such egregious violations of international law, human rights and democratic values. No amount of oil is worth it.

It is hard to see why businesses would ever go back to Russia. With an oil price cap in place across most of the West – and with Britain and Europe constructing alternative energy infrastructure to ensure they are never again beholden to Moscow – Urals crude has lost its appeal.

Oil and gas make up the bulk of Russia’s exports and represent a significant chunk of its economy. The country will only get poorer as its fossil fuel industry falters, leaving fewer and fewer reasons to venture there. There are much more promising, and less risky, markets on the horizon.

In breaking the fragile understanding with Western businesses, Putin has also sown the seeds of his demise. On its current path, Russia is only set to become more like a hermetic despot state akin to North Korea, rather than the proud global player he and many other citizens aspire for it to be.

Replacing Putin is Russia’s only hope of reversing this decline and attracting international businesses back to its shores.

Even if Putin is replaced – something seriously talked about earlier this year, but which looks less and less likely now – convincing businesses to return is still likely to be a struggle.

Putin’s two-decade rule over Russia has corrupted institutions so totally that it is difficult to see how others could now rule it differently. Even a zealous reformer would struggle to transform a system so bent and twisted towards the enrichment of insiders.

Until it changes, major Western corporations will not want to return. Most will do just fine. Russia, however, faces a less promising path.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 5:20 pm

Hey Dover are we operating with a list of dirty words (thanks Javed Miandad). If so, what are they? I’ve had a couple of comments swallowed by moderation. Cheers. Luv ya work.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2022 5:21 pm

Whoo hoo. Just toted up the cities I have visited on that list back thread, admittedly a few of them only in transit.

69.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2022 5:23 pm

Can add a few more that are not on the list too, of course.

Speedbox
December 30, 2022 5:28 pm

dover0beach says:
December 30, 2022 at 4:17 pm
Tatts on girls have been promoted incessantly in popular culture. It’s that whole grrlpower/ Girls/ hipster chic thing that went nuts in the last decade.

Indeed. And not helped when about 10 years ago that monument to masculinity and talent* Justin Bieber said that he loved girls with tatts. Bieber was about 18-19 years old at the time. His comments were widely reported in the MSM with giddy-like enthusiasm.

I can imagine the horror some parents confronted when their fresh-faced 18 year old daughter came home with ink on her arm/leg/shoulder etc.

* I really don’t need to add a ‘sarc’ do I?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 5:29 pm

Another Arkancide? Calls For New Inquiry Into Death Of Ashley Haynes, Who Drowned Just Months Before Former Clinton Advisor Mark Middleton’s Murder

The Washington Standard – June 7, 2022

On Monday, I reported about the ongoing investigation into the alleged suicide of former Clinton adviser Mark Middleton, who was found hanged and had shotgun blast to the chest. I’m sure all suicides happen like that, especially when one is tied to the Clintons. However, news is out now that another woman who drowned, but was found with an extension cord wrapped around her ankle tied to a cement block is facing an outcry for a new inquiry into her death.

Can’t rule out foul play? Do people normally wrap extension cords around their ankles, attach them to a cement block and just hop in a lake to drown themselves? Well, it is Arkansas, so I suppose it is possible in many people’s minds, but in realville, these things just don’t happen.

I’m guessing the boys in Arkansas know which side of their bread the butter is on and we’ll get the same thing back for Haynes as Middleton: Nothing to see here, just another suicide, right?

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 30, 2022 5:29 pm

Andrew Tate. Strikes me as a blowhard. Dude has issues. He’s a symptom of the anti-masculine culture of today, however. Turns out that it’s impossible to suppress an innate characteristic and when you try, it has a tendency to re-emerge in a grotesque or distorted form (ie. Andrew Tate). Surprise! Although, anyone with at least half a brain wouldn’t be.

With that said, I’m fairly confident the charges laid against him are politically motivated. The claim that it wuz St Greta wot flushed him out is obvious bullshit that only the most gullible, mouth-breathing type would believe (hi m0nty!). They’re making out like he was some John Mcafee-type figure and Interpol were just waiting for a clue as to his whereabouts so they could pounce. Um no. The purported “internet sleuths” who felt so proud of the fact they were able to locate him in Romania by way of the pizza boxes could have got this information in five seconds via a Google search. The guy didn’t make a secret of the fact he lived in Romania. Additionally, the pizza boxes were manifestly, blatantly, clearly product placement, so it’s not like he was trying to conceal anything.

But dopes like m0nty, who possesses the critical thinking capacity of a toddler, will believe just about anything as long as it gives mentally ill weirdos like Greta a win. Sad.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 5:32 pm

OK Ithink I know one.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 5:34 pm

I can imagine the horror some parents confronted when their fresh-faced 18 year old daughter came home with ink on her arm/leg/shoulder etc.

I know what it’s like. A long…long time ago a certain child came home with her tongue pierced.

I said nothing. Went upstairs, had a good cry (particularly over the vast sums I’d spent in orthodontics), dried my eyes, then came back down and continued cooking dinner.

Week by week tongue girl would lithsp her way through dinner conversations, relishing the thought that she’d shock me into commenting. Nothing.

After six months she had it removed. Life moved on regardless. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 5:34 pm

Tatts are like French Bulldogs but you just can’t dump them late at night.

Mater
December 30, 2022 5:36 pm

We are, indeed. It’s a small list, that I may add to, and it isn’t restricted to profanity either.

Can you add “you lot”, and see if we can force Monty to branch out with his collective pronouns?

It’d be for his own good. We want him to be the best he can be.

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 5:38 pm

has corrupted institutions so totally

how this different to the west

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2022 5:38 pm

Beached Whales

I can think of several names but saying them out loud might be more than my life’s worth.

Virginia zoo seeks public’s help to name pygmy hippo baby (29 Dec)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 5:38 pm

dover0beachsays:
December 30, 2022 at 5:30 pm
Hey Dover are we operating with a list of dirty words (thanks Javed Miandad). If so, what are they? I’ve had a couple of comments swallowed by moderation. Cheers. Luv ya work.

We are, indeed.

Flippin’ cove!

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 5:40 pm

testing verbotten bad words

homosexual

m0nty
December 30, 2022 5:40 pm

So then how do we go from having the virus to having antibodies?

The story is that harbouring virus leads to creating antibodies. Is that story wrong?

Shouldn’t, if you’re right, vaccines be a matter of injecting antibodies rather than the virus (or some version of)?

That is how monoclonal antibody injections work, yes, but that is an advanced technique that is too expensive for widespread global use at this stage. Maybe when the next pandemic comes, that will be the main defence. For now, vaccination to engender production of your own antibodies is more practical.

If you reject germ theory you have to explain what B cells are doing when they release antibodies. It’s not just for fun, Figures. There is a reason that white blood cells do that. What is your theory?

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 30, 2022 5:42 pm

Only in the Territory:

A teenager has been left blushing after being arrested over an alleged break-in at a Darwin sex shop where he was found stark naked by police.

Police about 1am Friday received reports from the owners of Sexyland in Stuart Park that the store had been broken into.

When police attended, they allegedly found an 18-year-old man naked inside the store with a number of items in his possession.

Police said what he was doing with the items was unclear but would be determined once CCTV was viewed.

It is unclear if the man was naked when he entered the store.

About 9.30am, Sexyland staff were cleaning up glass throughout the store which was left behind from the teenager allegedly smashing through the front door.

People took to social media on Friday morning, with one person nicknaming the alleged offender a “sticky hand bandit”.

Another suggested the alleged break-in may have been soundtracked by Michael Jackson’s hit Beat It.

“They don’t call it the SILLY SEASON for nothing,” one person commented.

“Try before you buy,” another wrote.

Both staff and management declined to comment on the incident.

The teenager was arrested and was expected to be charged with criminal damage and unlawful entry.

In February last year, Alec Gladigau avoided jail after stealing more than $400 in sex toys including a neon blue dildo valued at $89.95, a “foreplay costume”, a “silver choker collar”, three pairs of women’s underwear, a singular ankle cuff, a black lace mask and a bullet vibrator.

He was handed a nine-month good behaviour bond.

A month later, a couple was arrested after allegedly robbing Sexyland at Palmerston in an unrelated incident.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 5:42 pm

The problem with forbidden words is that they can form part of perfectly innocent words.

WordPress cannot differentiate (unless the filter code has been changed to include a space before and after the Word of Doom).

win
win
December 30, 2022 5:43 pm

Drug scram ble in China. CCP management decisions are becoming more frenetic by the day except we know that CCP decisions are never with out forward planning.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 5:44 pm

Testing.
Traitors.
COWS!
Treason.
Sheeple.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 5:46 pm

You mean like jewellery?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says: December 30, 2022 at 5:21 pm
Whoo hoo. Just toted up the cities I have visited on that list back thread, admittedly a few of them only in transit.

69.

Top work Lizzie.
I’ve been to 39, with another 10 if nightstops or stopovers are counted as ancillaries.
As with many others upthread, there’s a lot of places I’ve been that aren’t on the list.

Africa, a great swathe of northwest South America & central america, caribbean, pacific, black sea, & east-central southeast asia are noticeable black spots for that list.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 5:46 pm

Top Endersays:
December 30, 2022 at 5:42 pm
Only in the Territory:

A teenager has been left blushing after being arrested over an alleged break-in at a Darwin sex shop where he was found stark naked by police.

KD.
Where’s the boy?

Speedbox
December 30, 2022 5:47 pm

Years ago on the old Sinc Cat I was caught out once with the word jewellery.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 5:48 pm

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 5:48 pm

Truckstop.
Panties.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 5:49 pm

I’m thinking a certain North Lincolnshire town. East of the Trent, south of the Humber.

Banned.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 5:49 pm

with a number of items in his…………possession.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 30, 2022 5:49 pm

That was my point.
If they are going to keep having fifty percent or more women in medical school they are going to have to continue to increase the number of places to have sufficient GPs.
It doesn’t matter what the focus of this or that is.
It’s simply increasing supply to meet demand.
There are the exact number of places in medicine as students applying?
Seems unlikely.

The other option is to reduce demand to meet supply (population reduction)

But that wouldn’t be on the cards now would it…. :/

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2022 5:50 pm

bespokesays:
December 30, 2022 at 4:54 pm

My grandfather had tattoos I doubt enyone was stupid enough to diss him for it. I don’t like them personally, though.

Your grandfather may have had a legitimate reason to get ‘illustrated’.

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 5:51 pm

And who can forget “compelled”? 😀

I got my knuckles rapped over that. Naturally, I apologised profusely and sent him the yeti on a unicycle playing fire-spouting bagpipes for his birthday.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 5:52 pm

Oh come on says:
December 30, 2022 at 5:29 pm
Andrew Tate. Strikes me as a blowhard. Dude has issues. He’s a symptom of the anti-masculine culture of today, however. Turns out that it’s impossible to suppress an innate characteristic and when you try, it has a tendency to re-emerge in a grotesque or distorted form (ie. Andrew Tate). Surprise! Although, anyone with at least half a brain wouldn’t be.

He’s a glowie. Look into his father.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 30, 2022 5:53 pm

– Rosie says:

30 December, 2022 at 2:59 pm
They are indigenous?
I thought as much.
Different rules.
If they were any other boys they would have gone straight to prison.
The courts have incentivised repeat offending by under age aboriginal youth by effectively offering little or no consequences.

– Rosie says:

30 December, 2022 at 3:00 pm
It’s a political decision to be fair, because the only thing that matters is indigenous incarnation rates.

The Murderers are Sudanese.
Do you have a congenital defect that prevents you ever telling the truth?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2022 5:54 pm

Calli – modelling is more like a game of construction than a science.
If you don’t do it right, it all falls down. Garbage in, garbage out.
Economic modelling, epidemiological modelling, climate modelling.
Applies to all.

JC – a ‘good’ study applies its scientific method and give a determinate yes or no to the null hypothesis.
A crap study has little or no scientific method and has its answers before it starts.
Then there’s a lot of so-so or ‘indicative’ stuff inbetween.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 5:56 pm

Not if you have an aging population and there is a distinct scarcity in regional and remote locations as it is, not to mention immigration.
Paying $25 a visit might cut demand in metro areas, certainly bulk billing is getting rarer even in the big cities.
My daughter’s GP has announced child visits will no longer be bulk billed in 2023.
Royal children’s will probably cope with that corresponding increase in demand.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2022 6:00 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 30, 2022 6:01 pm

rosiesays:
December 30, 2022 at 6:00 pm
sure, whatever.

Funny looking Sudanese

calli
calli
December 30, 2022 6:04 pm

My beef with “modelling” as it appears to be done is the “if only we had more information our models would be better”. Well, durrrr.

But with natural systems you’re never going to have sufficient information to make perfect predictions. Unfortunately our media and governments have been expecting perfection lionising the predictors and making ridiculous policy on what is clearly imperfect. It reminds me of gamblers addicted to the next pull of the lever – this time it will pay off!

It’s the white coat infallibility that sticks in my craw. Trust the experts.

Dot
Dot
December 30, 2022 6:10 pm

One for JC since he brought up probabilities.

Female delusion calculator

https://igotstandardsbro.com

White
20-35
6’1” or over, not obese
Income at least 150k

Turns out this man has a 0.048 % chance of actually existing in that age range.

Or less than 1 in 2000 men that age will fit the bill.

Given that age range makes up 11.3 % of US males, there are (roughly) one man like this per 8,850 people in the USA. Or 39,550 men across the entire age range in the entire country.

Now god forbid if the men have standards or are reasonable people but refuse to be leftist NPCs, own guns, vote the wrong way or don’t want to live near her parents, need to travel for work, spend five months a year on a USN ship, work long hours in the Bakken oil field, don’t want to marry a 200k student debt or simply have a backbone and don’t want drama.

Arky
December 30, 2022 6:11 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
December 30, 2022 at 5:54 pm
Calli – modelling is more like a game of construction than a science.

..
Mathematical modelling isn’t reality.
You build a model to find out about reality, but you never confuse the model with reality.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2022 6:14 pm

Daily Mail. Phatty Adams is playing all the cards….

Under-fire ABC host uses his Aboriginal wife and daughter to fight claims of bigotry after Kamahl called him a ‘bully with a black soul’ over ‘disgusting’ accusation Don Bradman was racist

Singer Kamahl ‘humiliated’ by shocking tweet from ABC Radio’s Phillip Adams
The broadcaster said Bradman was friends with Kamahl as ‘an honorary white’
Kamahl and Bradman were friends for 13 years from 1988 until Bradman’s death 
Adams has hit back at critics calling for his sacking by saying he is not a racist
He cited his Aboriginal wife and daughter and another child who is Jewish

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2022 6:21 pm

I am adding Rovanieme to my list soon.
It is the main town in Finnish Lapland.

Today in a sale I found some sox, $10 for five pairs.
What a bargain. They were winter sox, one size fits all.
Just the thing for inside my snowboots in Rovanieme.
They weren’t selling like hotcakes on the Northern Beaches today.
Load of ’em in the bin still.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:21 pm
bespoke
bespoke
December 30, 2022 6:22 pm

You build a model to find out about reality, but you never confuse the model with reality.

CS did but when I asked why they changed over time he went into a babbling deGrasse Tyson hissy fit.
Made my day.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 6:23 pm

What gets me is how the old thief and the other rubbish in congress are pissing up trillions of dollars on various marxist projects to destroy US society AND their rotten war. Don’t deficits matter anymore? Is this modern monetary theory?

Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 6:25 pm

anyone in sicktoria know about this?

https://www.planning.vic.gov.au/policy-and-strategy/planning-for-melbourne/plan-melbourne/20-minute-neighbourhood

20-minute neighbourhoods
Learn about how we are creating inclusive, vibrant and healthy neighbourhoods

where’s muh equity?

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:27 pm
Zipster
Zipster
December 30, 2022 6:28 pm

Is this modern monetary theory?

correct, in MMT taxation drives the demand for money and taxation is what you use to control inflation from unlimited money printing

I kid you not, I have argued with some of these losers over the years, they are delusional communists

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 6:29 pm

Phatty Adams always sounds like he mumbling through a mouthful of his own cock.
Hes an obese “farmer” who has his ‘man” do the farm work while he fellates himself for 6 figures on their ABCcess.
He burrowed into Whitlams/Fraser film subsidies like an engorged little parasite and never let go.

Apparently into cultural appropriation big time as well.
Looted indigenous artifacts are his passion.
https://twitter.com/phillipadams_1/status/1236143092303974400

Adams collects antiquities from many “dead civilisations”, including sculptures and artifacts of Egyptian, Roman, Greek, Etruscan, South American and other indigenous cultures’ origin.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:29 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: December 30, 2022 at 6:14 pm
Daily Mail. Phatty Adams is playing all the cards….

Under-fire ABC host uses his Aboriginal wife and daughter to fight claims of bigotry after Kamahl called him a ‘bully with a black soul’ over ‘disgusting’ accusation Don Bradman was racist

Lol, who ever would know he’s married to an Aboriginal?
Phatty Adams looks more Aboriginal than does his wife.
She looks less Aboriginal than does Leigh Sales.

Kamahl the “Whitey” looks like a fresh piece of charcoal.

Keep digging Phatso.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2022 6:31 pm

A teenager has been left blushing after being arrested over an alleged break-in at a Darwin sex shop where he was found stark naked by police.

KD.
Where’s the boy?

I have no son.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:32 pm

This relates to county commissioners’ elections in Georgia, with similarities to her own claim.

Kari Lake Celebrates Georgia Judge Ordering New Election

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2022 6:33 pm

The meja cossets and incubates the most repulsive people imaginable.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 30, 2022 6:34 pm

Lizzie, that’s funny- just looking into Finland and Karjala for their summer 2024. If I went in winter it would be vodka and war stories and I might never leave.
Apropos of Rabz… Ghosts of Karelia.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:35 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2022 6:35 pm

Hes an obese “farmer” who has his ‘man” do the farm work while he fellates himself for 6 figures on their ABCcess.

Adams is proof, yet again, that hobby farmers are the curse of Australian agriculture.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:36 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2022 6:36 pm

Testing.
Nazipass.

Robert Sewell
December 30, 2022 6:38 pm

rosie:

I suppose we can draw some conclusions about the international drug buy up apparently being driven by expatriate Chinese?

We can draw the same conclusions that were as obvious the last time this situation happened.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 6:39 pm

Daily Mail. Phatty Adams is playing all the cards….

Under-fire ABC host uses his Aboriginal wife and daughter …

When you can’t even play you own race card …. Shades of Used Carr, his wife is Asian you know? How progressive.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2022 6:39 pm

Never in history has more been done, worldwide, to divert attention and cover up harm from a medical procedure – which is still being pushed by the very people entrusted to protect our us.

The PfizerGate Scandal: A Shocking tale of a Global Government Plot to hide the COVID Vaccine’s Immune System Destruction

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2022 6:41 pm

Arky

Mathematical modelling isn’t reality.
You build a model to find out about reality, but you never confuse the model with reality.

About 20 years ago, there was a clear discrepancy between modelled temperatures in the Antarctic, and measured temperatures. The modeller was bemoaning the inability of reality to match the model.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 6:43 pm

Phatty Adams will be fine. He is Leftist royalty.

Rabz
December 30, 2022 6:44 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
December 30, 2022 6:44 pm

Another tale of electric car rage…

Daily Mail

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

thefrollickingmole says: December 30, 2022 at 6:35 pm
Phattys wife.
Proud longnose tribe member?

OMG, is that the Aboriginal wife & Aboriginal daughter?

Rabz
December 30, 2022 6:45 pm

Sorry Cats – trigger warning: hideously uglee imbecile … 😕

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2022 6:46 pm

Testing….Jew, Jewish, Israel.

Robert Sewell
December 30, 2022 6:48 pm

Old Ozzie:

You can still indulge in wine on the road 4WD Driving

*snork*
Upgraded Valsac and Clarsac.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 30, 2022 6:52 pm

Rosemary Fawcett was the first wife, no pic of her i can find with a quick search.

Vicki
Vicki
December 30, 2022 6:53 pm

Calli – modelling is more like a game of construction than a science.
If you don’t do it right, it all falls down. Garbage in, garbage out.
Economic modelling, epidemiological modelling, climate modelling.
Applies to all.

I recall a wonderful judge of advanced years thundering on the first day of a civil case (involving a disaster) that he would not be paying much attention to computer modelling. What a relief that was after those involved had been subject (the right word!) to 20 months or so of highly paid “experts” and their computer data throughout a prior coronial hearing.

Lizzie, in any examination involving nature it is virtually impossible to have complete data. The selection is therefore highly subjective. And that is without the concentration of on only a particular aspect of the problem.

MatrixTransform
December 30, 2022 6:53 pm

I am also pretty fed up with comments such as Matrix’s saying I am barracking for more poorly tested Covid vaxx and lockdown oppressions

I did not say anything of the sort
it is implied
and you implied it yourself

seems to me that you’d prefer a wait and see approach to present-vax and future-vax based on your view of past-vax efficacy
how long do we wait … until you’re back from holidays?

sounds like you’re willing to overlook the actual societal and bodily harms … because past-vax
trivial, minuscule, mistakes, the greater good … etc

or waiting for data
… how many harms will be acceptable?
… is there set of scales you use to balance the lives of co-morbid covid deaths against myocarditis and suicides from despair?
… give us a frame-work
… explain the maths, you self appointed Gaussian Goddess

Lizzie, you sound fine taking a wait and see approach on brutal and heavy handed tactics too.
do you think they may be necessary because, you know… because stupid people, apparently don’t know whats good for them, and because past-vax?
…when is a human rights abuse, not a human rights abuse?
… when you say so?

you waiting for more data on that too?
you studiously and meticulously gathering said data yourself?
you analyzing it, or having drinkies with the neighbours again?

discussions on past-vax are a moot point.

the only thing that proceeds from them are a series of post-hoc fallacious gibber
and a pedestal for you to screech from.

Lizzie, do try not to sound like The Queen of Hearts all the time it makes you seem like a 2-dimensional caricature of an otherwise normal person

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2022 6:54 pm

Adams has been married to former model Patrice Newell for decades. Newell, who was adopted, only found out she had indigenous heritage a few years back. But such a discovery must have been manna from heaven for the two uber progressive leftist luvvies, Adams and Newell. And now, of course, Newell parades her indigenousness because she has an indigenous ancestor and this conveniently gives Adams a free pass when caught out for his bigotry, whish is legion.

Adams has long been known to be a pontificating wind bag and all round hypocrite of profound proportions.

Just think about this, Newell is paraded by her partner and the progressive MSM as “indigenous” whereas Jacinta Price and Kerrynne Liddle are routinely smeared and derided despite the fact that they ARE indigenous and both have lived in indigenous communities.

You just can’t make this shit up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2022 6:54 pm

*snork*
Upgraded Valsac and Clarsac

Used to keep a couple of mini goons in the cupboard for cooking. They were pretty rough from memory. Same for the Penfolds port for the spag bol.

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