Open Thread – Tue 27 Dec 2022


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Roger
Roger
December 27, 2022 7:11 pm

They had been released on bail after previous crimes in the last few days according to DiL’s Qplod sister.

Colour me surprised.

[Where’s the sarc button on this thing?]

Rabz
December 27, 2022 7:14 pm

Thanks MT – nothing like a bit of Nyeechee to remind you of your place in this world.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:14 pm

Pogria, the missus sent me that as an SMS the other day.
2 outta 3 kids still incommunicado in this place
all because of my bigotry

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 7:14 pm

Find your perfect Japanese Waifu in Vietnam.

This is far too good to be fake.

calli
calli
December 27, 2022 7:16 pm

Rabz, I was speaking generally, not specifically. Sometimes some poor bugger finds themselves used as “family broker” and they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

No one should ever be used as either a doormat or a punching bag.

My preferred response to emotional abuse.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:16 pm

nothing like a bit of Nyeechee

my nanna would have said, “forgive them because they know not what they do”

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 27, 2022 7:17 pm

I’m so sorry Rabz. Hold your head high, mate.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 27, 2022 7:19 pm

Avatar 2
aka
Aquatic Space Smurfs – Electric Boogaloo

South Park did a pisstake of Avatar called Dances With Smurfs.
Not sure if they could attempt such a thing now, since the woke have gone all holier than thou.
HBO just took down a bunch of their episodes because unwoke.

‘South Park’ Episodes Banned from HBO for Depicting Islamic Prophet Muhammad (26 Dec)

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 7:20 pm
Christine
Christine
December 27, 2022 7:21 pm

If Nietzsche did say that, I think he was wrong.
Often the price IS too high

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 27, 2022 7:22 pm

The Bachelor’s Handbag

The hot chicken war was the Colesworths duopoly at its finest. $7 chooks, they were practically giving them away.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 27, 2022 7:22 pm

Diogenes says: December 27, 2022 at 4:27 pm

I missed out on all my Christmas favourites, Stollen, pfeffernuesse, lebkuchen, Mozart kugel

??
At least you got the word salad.

Dot
Dot
December 27, 2022 7:23 pm

*Bid price and search times may be affected by client SMV such as “baldness” or specialty requirements such as “women with 125 IQ or above”.

LOL

Only an economist or plastic surgeon could be so plain speaking about someone else’s personal misfortune.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:27 pm

Often the price cost IS too high

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
December 27, 2022 7:28 pm

You lot have no idea any more what it means to be Australian. What is an ‘Australian’ now?

Time knows

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Matrix,
I am so sorry to hear about your kids. I won’t offer you glib words about hanging in there, I have no idea how it will pan out. The love we have for our kids does not end when they are old enough to drink and vote. I believe that is what hurts the most.
Your missus sounds awesome.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 7:30 pm

Only an economist or plastic surgeon could be so plain speaking about someone else’s personal misfortune

POL, you are a cruel man. The above reminds me for some reason of Norman Gunston’s ditty about the travails of a Kiss Armee member:

“There are only two people who know my true identity – my landlady and my skin specialist.”

And all this without even mentioning that most bizarre specialty of all, proctology.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 27, 2022 7:30 pm

So I can’t have my eldest child’s birth certificate changed to include my middle name because some incompetent Beattie era public servant omitted it when it was struck that has caused me untold dramas with her passport as a minor and likely again for her if she needs those proofs.

However I am able to pretend to be something I’m not with government backing?

We truly are in a clown world.

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 7:32 pm

Bolsonaro to make public statement at 7.00pm EST (USA time)

Can’t quite work out whether it’s overnight tonight or tomorrow (the story is unclear)

Also says….

Breaking News/Brazil: Journalist that was just sent to prison by crooked justice Moraes reveals: the out-of-control magistrate is BLACKMAILING the defense minister, threatening his son.

And so we hear that the ‘change of guard’ of the Military Commanders will take place BEFORE Lula is sworn in, not after as is always the case. Lula is in PANIC.

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 7:33 pm

Sorry no link.

miltonf
miltonf
December 27, 2022 7:36 pm

Notice how all the pollimuppetts from Edinburgh to Brisbane, from Ottawa to Canbra are always in lockstep whether it be the scamdemic, ‘sex changes’ for minors or late term abortion- almost like they all get their orders from the same source.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:40 pm

Your missus sounds awesome.

thanks Pog
it’s easier for her because the two non-talkers aren’t her bio-kids

she’s alright for a crazy old mole who starts talking any time I utter a single syllable

you gotta laugh
she has Plantar Fasciitis at the moment … because life
telling me about it again for the 10th time this week she goes, “… and you know what makes it worserer?”
without looking up I says, “I dunno … talking about it?”

she didnt even hear me

I think she’s a fasciitist

Rabz
December 27, 2022 7:42 pm

This one comes to mind:
The Stranglers – Skin Deep

BoN, that’s still a regular on my playlist, although it seems more relevant to some of my ex goilfriends.

132andBush
132andBush
December 27, 2022 7:44 pm

you gotta laugh
she has Plantar Fasciitis at the moment … because life

I’ve heard it’s painful, hope it heels soon.

Arky
December 27, 2022 7:44 pm

Plantar Fasciitis

..
Tape it up.
Look up one of the many videos of how to do properly.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:45 pm

hope it heels soon

so do I, she’s feeling a bit down-trodden

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 7:46 pm

Best quote today.

Conspiracy Theorist

A derogatory term used to discredit someone
Who speaks about things you can’t bear to look at
Because if it were true, it would reveal a darkness in the world
You’re not simply ready to accept

bespoke
bespoke
December 27, 2022 7:46 pm

she has Plantar Fasciitis at the moment … because life

Up next “dream catchers”, matrix.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 7:48 pm

Weather News:

BOM radar stations are in fact military-grade EMP facilities, which are currently pulsing into ex-Tropical Cyclones keeping them in place over some of the largest cattle stations in the country – thus providing mountains of feed, bigger and more cattle and enriching capitalists who must then employ more people who can buy their own homes and creature comforts.

All of this is communism at work.

h/t Trusted Bloggers

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 27, 2022 7:49 pm

In a family some people can specialise in holding grudges. My Big Sis does that. She held a grudge against our father and while she assisted getting him into aged care with her medical contacts she never spoke to him again after their big falling out. She came to his funeral simply to see others. She was rather absent with our mother’s period of lingering death too. Living in Canberra and too busy was her excuse; same for when our brother was dying, Covid was her excuse then. She was kind enough to mum by telephone but I handled it all. My second eldest son, the one with bipolar disorder, once sprayed the whole family with a terrible email. Others understood he was distressed but Big Sis still won’t come to a family Christmas at ours if he’s there as he struggles to rejoin the family. She thus ensures she’s always down Nowra way with our nephew and his family at Christmas. Even her own son she scorned until he was dying of cancer in his last days and in the hospice.

She has changed. There once was a time when she would do anything for anyone.
I think it’s a sort of burn out. Maybe I’m not too surprised.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:50 pm

“dream catchers”

well, she does have a crystal that she uses for important decisions.
on xmas eve she was up the orthotic shoe shop and was sending me pics of overpriced runners
I did suggest she should have taken the crystal

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 7:51 pm

Arky, thanks I’ll get her to look it up

Indolent
Indolent
December 27, 2022 7:52 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 27, 2022 7:52 pm

Dot says: December 27, 2022 at 5:36 pm

3. The whole thing shuts itself and we get 200,000+ fire sales with a slump in purchasing power

Who’s gonna buy them? Can only imagine China (perhaps indirectly via the super funds, investment bankers, hedge funds, such as Blackrock).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 27, 2022 7:53 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

December 27, 2022 at 3:50 pm

You lot have no idea any more what it means to be Australian. Shameless denialism. Look at you. Parading around with Eurotrash recipes.

Sorry.
We started with salmon gravlax on Christmas Day. The brothers-in-law (one truckie, one cropping farmer) hooked into it like they were Bjorn and Benny.

Nobody mentions good, hearty Aussie bratwurst any more.

Traitrous swine.

Mmmyes.
My swine was traitorous.
Michel Roux recipe including ears and trotters.
Cheese eating surrender recipe but, again, the bronzed Aussie B-i-Ls left none of it behind.

Zipster
December 27, 2022 7:56 pm

Avatar: The Way of Water is a pandering and one-dimensional environmentalist propaganda piece by director James Cameron that feels like a three-hour version of a TikTok video where a blue-haired Leftist lectures you about the evils of colonialism.

tik tok symbolises everything wrong with the west. bite sized bits of meaningless hedonism for the metoo generation

Rabz
December 27, 2022 7:58 pm

What is going on with Piers Morgan?

Massive (and rather obvious) brain damage.

Other than that I’d rather not know. Unless Brett Lee was finally able to clock him from a full 22 yards. 🙂

Roger
Roger
December 27, 2022 8:14 pm

Best quote today.

Conspiracy Theorist

A derogatory term used to discredit someone
Who speaks about things you can’t bear to look at
Because if it were true, it would reveal a darkness in the world
You’re not simply ready to accept

And what if the theory isn’t true?

miltonf
miltonf
December 27, 2022 8:14 pm

What is going on with Piers Morgan?

why would anyone with half a brain want to know what the waste of space thinks about anything.

Roger
Roger
December 27, 2022 8:21 pm

The darkness still persists – only an inebriated wombat could deny its existence – but the proponents of the false conspiracy theory have brought ridicule upon the attempt to shine a light into the darkness by not employing proper standards of truth/light.

Whose interests does that serve?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 27, 2022 8:21 pm

Artificial intelligence and algorithms: pros and cons

Would Skynet and Clippy be a pro or a con?
Open the pod bay doors Alexa.

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 8:21 pm

It appears Piers Twitter account was hacked.

Some real wild stuff was tweeted

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 8:24 pm

Everyone’s pathway to the light may look slightly different Roger

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 27, 2022 8:28 pm

Rabz is a Proctologist an Anal yst?

Roger
Roger
December 27, 2022 8:36 pm

Everyone’s pathway to the light may look slightly different Roger

That sounds like relativism, custard (I hope it isn’t).

The truth of events in space-time is objective, but being limited creatures we may only ever know it in terms of probability. But there has to be a minimum verifiable threshold for truth statements nonetheless, otherwise we enter the hall of mirrors of subjectivism where onean’s truth cannot be questioned by another.

Roger
Roger
December 27, 2022 8:38 pm

one man’s truth

bespoke
bespoke
December 27, 2022 8:41 pm

It’s the need to believe one single group controls all that leads to the oldest of conspiracy theories.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 27, 2022 8:47 pm

At least you got the word salad.

The only salad I consume is cigars….

Salads contain leaves. Cigars are made from leaves. Ergo , cigars are salad.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 8:51 pm

Conspiracy Theorist

FFS, there is no such creature. I’m not having it, Cats.

The correct appellation is “Conspiracy Hypothesist”.

So apropos of nothing, let’s have some mighty superstructure … 😕

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 27, 2022 8:55 pm

The Sydney-Hobart should be a chance to think about the ultimate old dude, Jim Clark. And blowing large amounts of money on boats.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 27, 2022 8:59 pm

Lately I’ve been smoking my word salads. Coles keep ringing saying they want their spinach back. “Whatever, Mon.”

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 8:59 pm

132andBushsays:
December 27, 2022 at 7:44 pm
you gotta laugh
she has Plantar Fasciitis at the moment … because life

I’ve heard it’s painful, hope it heels soon.

Bush, I got the joke, and because I’m a little pissed, I almost pissed myself!

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 27, 2022 8:59 pm

Diogenes says: at 7:06 pm
No mention of 3rd nations:
From the link:
The two 17-year-olds, from Zillmere and Holland Park, …
Sudanese.

132andBush
132andBush
December 27, 2022 9:00 pm

It’s the need to believe one single group controls all that leads to the oldest of conspiracy theories.

Some people have the need to go through life thinking they posses knowledge others don’t.

For some it becomes all consuming, chemtrails being a prime example.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 27, 2022 9:04 pm

In renewable-energy newspeak, it’s called demand management. You’ll find it in the AEMO report.

I think you will find it’s ‘supply management’, not demand management…

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:05 pm

Matrix,
I can empathise a little, I had two stepchildren for 35 years. Also one of my own. I must say though, with the stepson, even if we didn’t agree on things, he believed in the old adage, “we agree to differ”. He grew up to be a good man. His sister was never a problem, she had Downes.

rickw
rickw
December 27, 2022 9:05 pm

What machine is it, Rick?
You mentioned the other day a pto type.

Horwood Bagshaw pto, I think the model is 1070.

Identical to these:

https://auctionsplus.com.au/auctions/machinery/‘wybara’-deniliquin-clearing-sale/2x-horwood-bagshaw-1070-trailing-pto-headers%2C-complete-with-fronts/listing/86828-119801

custard
custard
December 27, 2022 9:07 pm

I notice that the blood supply chain is now being questioned by unvaccinated people who are worried that if they were to receive blood from somebody who was vaccinated that would be tarnished blood!

miltonf
miltonf
December 27, 2022 9:09 pm

Michael Trumble really stuck it up us with his Audrey Zimmerperson and her ‘demand shaping’, that horrible old woman from the water board and the Paris betrayal. Who brought Trumble into the lieboral party and convinced him to stay?

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 9:13 pm

Do people who often mention Dr. Malone as an anti-vax expert realize he’s vaccinated? I heard this in a podcast today. Can’t verify if it’s true but it sounded like it. Just wow if true.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Who brought Trumble into the lieboral party and convinced him to stay?

Yep, it’s a mystery. Except when it isn’t.

132andBush
132andBush
December 27, 2022 9:17 pm

Horwood Bagshaw pto, I think the model is 1070.

My Horsham clients used to have one. Not sure if it’s still in the graveyard or not.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:18 pm

Klaus Schwabs’ favourite movie will be on shortly; “The Boys From Brazil”.
I know, I know, Mengele was put down and his evil plan thwarted in the end, BUT!, in Schwabs’ mind, if “Keating! the Musical”, could change the outcome of recent History in the minds of people today, why couldn’t fudging history work for Klaus? He only needs a good editor/Director.

With Leni long dead, maybe Cameron or Alec Baldwin would be happy to come up with a more realistic ending.

miltonf
miltonf
December 27, 2022 9:21 pm

had to look at that a few times Rabz lol

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:22 pm

Rabz,
did you ever see John Howard, the actor, in any early roles? He was hot! But not for long, seems he realised early that his future lay in Character Acting.

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 9:26 pm

Rabz

Why are you asking permission to go see your very ill brother? Ignore them and just show up FFS. If he asks you to leave then do so after you tell him he can go screw himself.

rickw
rickw
December 27, 2022 9:27 pm

My Horsham clients used to have one. Not sure if it’s still in the graveyard or not.

Let me know if it’s still in their graveyard! Generally pretty well engineered I think, based on recent experience, pretty fast and straightforward to fix.

It’s also really been playing nice, two weeks of use without a hitch, I turn up and it’s unloading all its problems!

I reckon getting contract harvesters is way quicker and more cost effective, but, I think you need to maintain the capability, which is really Dad’s rationale.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:29 pm

Speaking of Family, I would be willing to bet this was over demands for money.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:30 pm

Yep, JC, that’s just what I need – a shouting match in a hospital with various deadshits that I never wanted blighting my life ever again.

There should be more of it.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:31 pm

JC,
surprisingly astute.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:32 pm

Rabz,
having been there, done that, it can be surprisingly cathartic.

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 9:32 pm

No, you ignore them. You don’t have to shout back. I think you mentioned your dad and he’s still around. Go with him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 27, 2022 9:33 pm

JCsays:

December 27, 2022 at 9:26 pm

Rabz

Why are you asking permission to go see your very ill brother? Ignore them and just show up FFS. If he asks you to leave then do so after you tell him he can go screw himself

Upticks x 104.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:37 pm

you mentioned your dad and he’s still around

Only in my (still vivid) memories, JC. He’s been dead since 1996.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:39 pm

Ignore them and just show up FFS. If he asks you to leave then do so after you tell him he can go screw himself

OK, OK, I haven’t ruled it out. Still a very bloody tempting option. 🙂

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 9:41 pm

Oh okay, I vaguely recall you mentioned your pa in this discussion. I had the wrong recollection.

Annie
Annie
December 27, 2022 9:41 pm

Diogenes @5:10pm:

I have a spare Aldi marzipan stollen. We usually don’t use them straightaway. I’ve no idea where you live; I am in Nth Central Vic nearish Marysville. If you can make contact through the blog owner you are welcome to it.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:42 pm

JC – I remembered one of his many lectures about the importance of forgiveness.

He was a Christian. I am not.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 9:44 pm

Some people have the need to go through life thinking they posses knowledge others don’t.
For some it becomes all consuming, chemtrails being a prime example.

Preach it.

A phenomenon around since humans were upright. Some find it impossible to be anything else but Harbingers of Doom.

rickw
rickw
December 27, 2022 9:44 pm

OK, OK, I haven’t ruled it out. Still a very bloody tempting option. ?

I reckon you feel like you need to do it, so do it!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 9:46 pm

Pelting down in my corner of D-Town suburbia.

Those EMP jockeys at the BOM must have their feet to the floor.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 27, 2022 9:46 pm

Families.
Christmas report card.
Mrs Panzer’s family this year.
Two dozen attendees.
19 get a pass mark.
S-i-L’s partner was more subdued than usual on account of being on probation for shitty behaviour earlier in the year. But still something of a ladies front bottom (heeding Dover’s call to clean things up).
There were two other one-on-one stoushes which didn’t erupt into fully blown public punch-ups. I only found out about them when the warring parties had a sook to me. It may have come across that my care factor was incredibly low because they lost interest in the whinge pretty quickly.
Two were bluing over the will of a still living relative. I told both of them that there is nothing more crass than discussing inheritances, particularly whilst the benefactor is still alive.
So, business as usual really.
Rabz, the only difference between yours and mine is that yours are a little more overt in their tactics.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 9:47 pm

Of course, this is punishment for clueing onto their Big Secret.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:48 pm

rickwsays:
December 27, 2022 at 9:44 pm
OK, OK, I haven’t ruled it out. Still a very bloody tempting option. ?

I reckon you feel like you need to do it, so do it!

Rabz, if you do go ahead with it, don’t forget to have Ride of the Valkyries playing full blast as you stride in.

Dot
Dot
December 27, 2022 9:49 pm

Salads contain leaves. Cigars are made from leaves. Ergo , cigars are salad.

Damn…

Dot
Dot
December 27, 2022 9:50 pm

Two were bluing over the will of a still living relative. I told both of them that there is nothing more crass than discussing inheritances, particularly whilst the benefactor is still alive.

Just assume you’ll get nothing.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:53 pm
Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:54 pm

don’t forget to have Ride of the Valkyries playing full blast as you stride in

“I love the smell of familial stoushes in the morning …

They smell like human dysfunction (again) …”

Rabz
December 27, 2022 9:55 pm

Just assume you’ll get nothing

Which has been done for my superannuation.

Factored out, it is.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 9:56 pm

Not an aviator. However, I will assert there’s a fair bit wrong with this (the Tele):

A 67-year-old Sydney accountant who dreamt of becoming a Qantas pilot and another man aged 68 died when their plane, an “experimental aircraft” built from a kit, crashed into bushland.

Experimental, you say? Oh-ho kay…

Pilot Leigh Cunneen, 67, an accountant from Annandale, and his passenger, a 68-year-old man from Holsworthy, were killed when the Glasair Super II aircraft went down near Appin Rd in Appin – east of Picton – on Boxing Day.

The burnt bodies of Mr Cunneen and his passenger were found after a small bushfire sparked by the crash was brought under control. NSW Police were yet to formally identify the pair on Tuesday afternoon.

Why would an accountant want to be a Qantas pilot? Was he gay? This is his neighbour:

“He wanted to be a Qantas pilot, but he didn’t have the qualifications, so he put himself through college, as far as I know, and got his own licence,” Mr Sarsin said.

Mr Cuneen and his passenger had recently purchased the aircraft and had been rebuilding it. The crash occurred on their first official cross-country flight.

Rebuilding it? Did it crash before this?

Upstream Aviation director Tim Collins said the Glasair Super II could pose a risk if not properly built. “If it’s home built or bought in a kit form it’s not certified in Australia,” he said.

What did he do? Build it in his shed? I’ve yet to see one in a box at Bunnings.

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:56 pm

Rabz, is this how you may be feeling?

Pogria
Pogria
December 27, 2022 9:59 pm

Pilot Leigh Cunneen,
KD, that is his problem right there. His parents gave him a girls’ name.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 10:00 pm

A 67-year-old Sydney accountant who dreamt of becoming a Qantas pilot

Wow. If that’s not unintentional comedy gold, then I can’t imagine what is. Very similar to this:

“A XX-year-old Sydney economist who dreamt of gettin’ it on with an eastern suburbs glamourpuss party chick …” 😕

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 27, 2022 10:04 pm

have Ride of the Valkyries playing full blast as you stride in

With an unlit stogie in your gob. Wear your boxing boots.

Do a couple of star jumps at the end of his bed. Say ‘What’s cracking, champ? You coming down the road for a couple of jars or what?

‘No? What’s that? I can’t hear you properly with all the machines and tubes. Anyway. Hey, are you crook? I came by because I thought you had a cleaning job here – was going to touch you for a pineapple.

‘Righto. Happy hour’s on somewhere – see you later, masturbator’. Then sack whack him before walking backwards out of the room with double middle fingers out and proud.

Rabz
December 27, 2022 10:06 pm

Sacré bleu!

Or should that be “Bellissima”?

Indolent
Indolent
December 27, 2022 10:07 pm
Rabz
December 27, 2022 10:11 pm

KD, that scenario is much more tempting. I’ve even got a brand new pair of boxing boots ready to go.

Indolent
Indolent
December 27, 2022 10:13 pm
custard
custard
December 27, 2022 10:14 pm
rickw
rickw
December 27, 2022 10:14 pm

Making rope by hand.

(I just realised given the current malaise how useful this really is!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfaLUi-qtnA

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 27, 2022 10:25 pm

JC,
It is possible to be vaxxed and then become anti Vax.
Probably the most well known Dr to change his mind is Aseem Malhortra a UK cardiologist. He was double vaxxed and was on UK TV promoting the Vax. His father, also a Dr, died of a heart issue after Vax. Malhortra had an autopsy done and then spent six months researching Vax and now very anti. He thinks they should be stopped.

He has written much about his thoughts and given many interviews including one hour with Tucker Carlson. Plenty of information about him can be seen at web page Totality of Evidence in the resources section which lists many experts who have expressed concerns about the Vax. Same website has a list of relevant docos and he features prominently in the one called Second Opinion.

Luzu
Luzu
December 27, 2022 10:29 pm

I shouldn’t have but I laughed out loud, KD. I’m reading that out to my offsider at work tomorrow. Pure comedy gold.

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 10:31 pm

Rooster

It’s possible that you’re smart. Anything is possible. However probable doesn’t mean the same thing. Malone claims to have invented the process. It’s different to other doctors changing their mind.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 27, 2022 10:44 pm

I’ve heard it’s painful, hope it heels soon.

I sympathise with the sentiment with all my sole.

It is like having an arch enemy.

Dot
Dot
December 27, 2022 10:47 pm

Malone claims to have invented the process.

No one with any medical background or biomed research background really disputes this.

https://www.10news.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-did-robert-malone-invent-mrna-vaccines-in-san-diego

Malone later joined Felgner at Vical, where they were the first people to introduce these fatty bubbles carrying mRNA into mice. Malone and Felgner are listed on several papers and patent filings together.

Felgner, now the director of the Vaccine Research and Development Center at UC Irvine, has been recognized internationally for his contributions to the mRNA vaccines. Some former colleagues feel Malone deserves recognition for conceptualizing the experiments.

“There were a half-dozen people at Vical who really contributed to this,” said one Vical employee. “But who was the brainchild? Who came up with the idea? It was Robert [Malone].”

https://firstfactcheck.substack.com/p/fact-check-robert-malone-is-a-fraud

The New York Times claims that Robert Malone, the outspoken critic of the mRNA vaccines, is a ‘Covid misinformation star’ and did not invent the mRNA technology that is used in the mRNA vaccines.

This is not true. Malone has the credentials to speak about these topics, his name is on the first studies that report successful in vitro transcription (IVT) of mRNA, and reputable sources speak of him as the discoverer of this technology.

and:

WHAT NATURE MAGAZINE SAYS
A quote from the very beginning of “The tangled history of mRNA vaccines” in Nature magazine, one of the premiere scientific journals, September 2021:

In late 1987, Robert Malone performed a landmark experiment. He mixed strands of messenger RNA with droplets of fat, to create a kind of molecular stew. Human cells bathed in this genetic gumbo absorbed the mRNA, and began producing proteins from it1.

Realizing that this discovery might have far-reaching potential in medicine, Malone, a graduate student at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, California, later jotted down some notes, which he signed and dated. If cells could create proteins from mRNA delivered into them, he wrote on 11 January 1988, it might be possible to “treat RNA as a drug”. Another member of the Salk lab signed the notes, too, for posterity. Later that year, Malone’s experiments showed that frog embryos absorbed such mRNA2. It was the first time anyone had used fatty droplets to ease mRNA’s passage into a living organism.

If anyone at all has a claim to the process, it’s Malone.

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 10:53 pm

Dot

Being in a leadership position in the development doesn’t mean he was the only one. I’m sure he was prominent but he was the only guy in the lab or labs working on it? I have my doubts. But even so, if was the inventor as he claims, then how do you square the circle.
1. He claims he was the inventor. ( okay, lets accept that)
2. He was vaccinated twice I believe
3. He is a prominent anti-vaxer.

Rooster brought up that cardio dude in the UK who changed his mind. That’s a perfectly credible position to take in view of his experiences. My cardio had similar experiences with young male patients and he was threatened with his practice license if he spoke up. That’s credible.

But Malone?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 27, 2022 10:55 pm

Dot, thanks for putting up the Malone background info.

JC could of course see a huge amount of information on Malone at Totality of Evidence plus he has written a book about past two years.

Seems Dr Peter McCullough visiting Oz next year. Probably the most credentialled of those speaking against the Vax,

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 10:58 pm

Rooster

You’re not dealing with the issue at hand and trying to change the subject. If you can’t be honest about it and directly respond to the subject then STFU.

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 11:11 pm

I can empathise a little

Pogria,
right back atcha
blended families can be rugged
as indeed, life can be

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 27, 2022 11:11 pm

Can’t remember the technical aspect but Malone has said MNRA method was not designed for vaxxing billions in a short period of time.

Perhaps he was confident initially but soon changed his mind as more information came out. He is one of many who did. A good UK example is Devon GP Dr Cartland. Got vaxxed because a friend died of Covid but now very anti Vax and spoken up strongly about not vaxxing kids. Details at Totality website.

JC
JC
December 27, 2022 11:16 pm

Can’t remember the technical aspect but Malone has said MNRA method was not designed for vaxxing billions in a short period of time.

Okay. So why get vaxxed, you infernal twit?

Perhaps he was confident initially but soon changed his mind as more information came out.

He claims to have invented it!

He is one of many who did. A good UK example is Devon GP Dr Cartland. Got vaxxed because a friend died of Covid but now very anti Vax and spoken up strongly about not vaxxing kids. Details at Totality website.

I’m talking about Malone. Just stop commenting .

MatrixTransform
December 27, 2022 11:17 pm

plus he has written a book about past two years

I remember the wiki disinformation wars over Malone

his book might be very interesting

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 27, 2022 11:23 pm

JC,
I suggest you spend a few hours looking around the Totality website. You might learn a few things so that when you are trying to discuss the opposing Drs you might have a clue. Totality covers many aspects of the virus policies and Vax issues.

One of the terms to describe some people in past two years is “wilful blindness”.

Arky
December 27, 2022 11:29 pm
Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 27, 2022 11:31 pm

KD
Mr Cuneen and his passenger had recently purchased the aircraft and had been rebuilding it.

Given that the aircraft was a do-it-youself build, I assume it was originally built in the US, dismantled and shipped to the Aussie flyers, who re-assembled it.
It would be nice if the press gave all the facts.

Arky
December 27, 2022 11:42 pm

A song for Dan. Victoria, what do you see in him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzLGVGZkVQ

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 27, 2022 11:57 pm

Malone will not talk about synthetic venom peptides in the jabs.

Arky
December 28, 2022 12:01 am

It’s tough seeing how old Brian is now. In my memories he is still that young guy flinging the RS2000 Escort about. His mum Jan was my mum’s best friend. (Mum died earlier this year and I never got to say goodbye, thanks Covid Nazis). I worked with Brian every weekend milking their cows. He was a much loved hero growing up for all the youngsters around, even in the big smoke of Rangiora they knew him.
I remember working with his dad one morning and I forgot to put the bung on the milk vat. After the first two lines went through we saw the milk running down the dairy stairs. Ken looked at me and instead of being angry said “No use crying over spilled milk”.
He adopted a dog that had been beaten by its previous owner. Called “Boy”. Ken was the only person Boy let anywhere near him. I called my latest dog Boy after him because I will always remember Ken’s quiet good nature.
..

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/06/08/canterbury-family-proves-rallying-is-in-their-blood-with-five-participants-in-one-race/

Arky
December 28, 2022 12:18 am

Not RS2000.
It was a proper RS1800 with the Cosworth engine.
Brian rallified it himself in that farm garage and took it to become national champion.

Arky
December 28, 2022 12:27 am

Homesick as all hell now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 12:27 am

Had a Kate’s dad in Feraldton who did 3/4 replica light aircraft for people. Spitfires were his best seller.
Died working on one, as opposed to flying in one.
Must have made them well as I never knew of any of his unpacking themselves in mid air.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 12:28 am

Mates dad thanks spellwrecker.

Arky
December 28, 2022 1:12 am

The now defunct Grov:
Where many a young apprentice fitter and turner met up with hairdressers from the Polytech next door. Across the avenue was Andrews and Bevans where I did my time. Where do young men meet young woman nowadays? Pub culture is mostly dead. So much of the good stuff is gone now. Pub culture, car culture., motorbike culture. Working man’s culture.
..

The Grosvenor, from its very beginning, was an unpretentious pub. It never had the grandiose aspirations of such establishments as the Terminus, the Clarendon or Warner’s. It is, and always has been, a working man’s pub, serving the needs of the railway workers and the travelling public of humbler means. Nowadays its role has changed due to changing circumstances. The transfer of the Christchurch Railway Station to Addington Saleyards means that not only have the railway workers gone, so has the travelling public. The seven bedrooms were patronised by railway staff until at least the 1980’s, but the transfer of NZ Rail into private hands, and the cost-cutting that was subsequently involved mean that revenue from accommodation has vanished.

That is not to say that the Railway connection has been severed, and indeed the Grosvenor is looked upon as something of a shrine to the railway fraternity. In April of 1996 a memorial stone to railwaymen who had been killed on the job was unveiled at the old Christchurch Railway Station (now the Hoyts – Science Alive complex), and the function following the ceremony was held at the Grosvenor. Former trade unionist Murray Horton was present and “greatly enjoyed the camaraderie of the union ‘do’ put on after the function in the Grosvenor Hotel, still the railway workers’ pub of choice, and one of the last of the City pubs not to have been ‘yuppified’ and turned into a phoney baloney theme bar” (Political Review, Sept/Oct 1996, p19).

But all hotels evolve, all clienteles change and all is not lost. Being very handy to the Christchurch Polytechnic, the Grosvenor has understandably become a popular venue for the local students. The Polytech has a habit of designating its various sub-areas as Blocks defined by a letter of the alphabet, for example A Block, B Block and so on. Should you happen to hear a group of students mentioning that they are hurrying off to G Block, do not be too admiring of their academic diligence; they are actually shooting down to the Grosvenor!

..
https://poddimok.wordpress.com/087-the-watering-holes-an-historical-essay/grosvenor-hotel/

Figures
Figures
December 28, 2022 1:17 am

1. He claims he was the inventor. ( okay, lets accept that)
2. He was vaccinated twice I believe
3. He is a prominent anti-vaxer.

It must be fun to have the ability to rationalize the way pro-vaxers do.

If Malone wasn’t a vaccine researcher everything he said in opposition to this vaccine would be dismissed because he’s a “discredited hardcore anti-vax ideologue conspiracy theorist non-expert”. That’s how people like Sherri Tenpenny are described.

But because he’s actually supportive of vaccination in general his views on covid vax are dismissed because he’s not consistently anti-vax!

You can’t make this stuff up.

The word “vaccination” automatically makes most people lose half their IQ score and all of their principles. You can actually see this in real time when you ask JC a question on economics and then another on vaccination.

Or ask an anti-abortion guy why they don’t mind injecting the product of aborted baby parts to (not) stop rubella.

Or ask Rex to explain why paralysis rates have increased since the polio vaccine and how this doesn’t affect his views on said polio vax even though his go to argument for vaccination in general is “you never see polio [aka a kind of paralysis] anymore do you?”

I genuinely have no idea what it is about these concoctions. Completely useless at preventing any kind of disease but bona fide magical powers when it comes to turning people into blithering idiots.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 2:24 am

Figures

You make zero sense and the mind reading is off he charts.

I’m not pro or against the vax, you moron. Malone remains that the biggest name in the vax business , he’s anti covid vax while having been vaxed. This isn’t a problem to you?

Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:07 am
bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 5:09 am

MatrixTransformsays:
December 27, 2022 at 7:14 pm
Pogria, the missus sent me that as an SMS the other day.
2 outta 3 kids still incommunicado in this place
all because of my bigotry

Your kid has made life altering decision with few if any people pointing out the negatives. This is challeng of owe generation, Matrix.
Paternal instincts are being eroded and replaced with self destructive enabling. What you are feeling isn’t bigotry it is love.

Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:54 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 7:06 am

I have my doubrs.

Get Trump

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 7:10 am

Falling Over Championships News – this dude is an absolute caricature of socka fans (the Hun):

The hooligan who hurled a metal bucket at a goalkeeper’s face in the violent pitch invasion at AAMI Park is upset that he’s being “unfairly targeted” over the mayhem.

Alex Agelopoulos can be revealed as the thug dubbed “Bucket Man” after he threw a large can filled with sand at Melbourne City’s goalkeeper Tom Glover during shameful scenes which forced the derby match against Melbourne Victory to be abandoned on December 17.

There are pics – selfies – of this wanker at a gym, but with an unhooded hoodie on.

…. the 23-year-old from Craigieburn has been complaining about his photos being “plastered” over the news outlets and social media and being “unfairly targeted”, it is understood.

And despite being front and centre of the pitch invasion, Agelopoulos has been keen to escape scrutiny this week, first changing his Facebook profile name to “Lex Lex” and later deactivating the account.

I assume the deactivation occurred after realising ‘Lex Lex’ was extremely – well, mincy. He’s a proper alpha though. Seriously.

Family members refused to comment about Agelopoulos, whose attack on Glover left the keeper needing several stitches across his cheek. And his lawyer Martin Amad threatened legal action if his case was “prejudiced”, while demanding his family should not be contacted again.

Guaranteed there’s an Angelopolous nonna somewhere triple-piking onto the fainting couch every fifteen minutes, accompanied by wailing from several dozen extended family members. He still has the full support of former associates though:

Agelopoulos’ former suburban footy team Epping Football Netball Club distanced itself from the youth, with a committee member saying on Monday he had not played there for more than a year.

Gold. That’s code for ‘He’s a wanker and we banned him from here as well.’ Also:

An analysis of his Facebook activity reveals him posting a screenshot of a chat on the “Australian Ultras” about organised fights between soccer fans. One mate says “Guys, can we arrange a fight with Frankston or yville? once we get 20 lads it’s on … No more peace treaties … Alex Aggs … their time’s up.”

Oh no, Alex. No no no. You appear to be one of those hard as nails young blokes as long as there 20 others around you. In typical socka handbag dog fashion.

I wonder how long you’d last one out?

Gabor
Gabor
December 28, 2022 7:13 am

WA in size is the third of all of Australia.
Nothing to do with anything, I just thought I mention it, was looking for something.
It’s blooming huge.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 7:21 am

I would like to claim this, but I can’t. Saw it on FB overnight. Paraphrased:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a trans plumber. That’s because mental illness doesn’t go well with decision making and a work ethic.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 7:21 am

Someone drew a line on a map.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 28, 2022 7:21 am

Rabz whatever you do is only up to you. No matter what it is us lot would not say you did the wrong thing.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 7:27 am

How do you hide 8 billion of liabilities in an account?
business insider on the ftx Alameda fiasco

rickw
rickw
December 28, 2022 7:35 am

Brandon Herrera and gun Darwin Awards.

Also includes at end the ultimate example of why police should not be allowed anywhere near firearms, courtesy of the Polish Chief of Police. Actually nominated on Twitter for a Darwin Award by Polands foreign affairs minister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmm7yBg9yhA&t=277s

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 7:40 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 28, 2022 7:42 am

Agelopoulos’ former suburban footy team Epping Football Netball Club distanced itself from the youth…

The “youth” is 23, ffs.
In unfashionable reckoning, an adult.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 7:44 am
Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 28, 2022 7:48 am
calli
calli
December 28, 2022 7:53 am

China lies

Not buying a single word of it. Anything coming out of China is carefully curated b/s with bells on.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 8:00 am

The CCP is reporting zero deaths, others say different.
It’s not paliwood though.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 28, 2022 8:04 am

how do you square the circle.

1. He claims he was the inventor. ( okay, lets accept that)
2. He was vaccinated twice I believe
3. He is a prominent anti-vaxer.

Rooster brought up that cardio dude in the UK who changed his mind. That’s a perfectly credible position to take in view of his experiences. My cardio had similar experiences with young male patients and he was threatened with his practice license if he spoke up. That’s credible.

But Malone?

Aseem Malhotra believed what his government told him, UNTIL his own father (who had a clean bill of health, heart wise, prior to the shot) died shortly after it – then he ‘did his own research’.

Malone also got red pilled because, in his own words…

I used to believe that the FDA, NIH, and CDC were working for the people, not big pharma. I thought that if we could just re-purpose already known, safe drugs for emerging infectious diseases, we could quickly find ways to reduce the death rate. I thought that drug and vaccine development were regulated by the Federal government for the common good. What I have learned over the last two years is that regulatory capture of the federal government has warped and shaped the work of Congress and Federal agencies to such an extent that they no longer represent what is in the best interests of the nation, the world, and humanity. The more I have expressed data-based concerns about what is happening with the vaccines, the US Federal and WHO responses, the more I have been censored, defamed, and subjected to various forms of character assassination by big tech and legacy media. I am not alone in being targeted. Mainstream media has attacked and censored me and other prominent physicians/scientists who do not recite the governmental narrative

I know how he feels…

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 8:06 am

he’s anti covid vax while having been vaxed. This isn’t a problem to you?

Almost like me JC.

I don’t have a problem at all with it.

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 8:11 am

Rosie, if Sky News gets an “exclusive” from a hospital cleaner or a party insider, it’s ultimately the same thing. It is something that the CCP is allowing out for international consumption.

They are consummate liars and manipulators. My kids are in constant contact with business friends in China – under no illusions that every conversation is carefully monitored. Everything is rosey and upbeat…how could it be anything else? Of course Sky tells a different story – the purpose is to keep onlookers worried and uncertain of true events, and to stimulate the notion of it happening here. It creates fertile ground for imposing restrictions yet again.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 8:15 am

As of the writing of this article, he has made no verifiable efforts to corral together the research group, research funding, or multi-center collaboration to produce the basic science, clinical science, or epidemiological research to show that his beliefs are backed with peer-reviewed evidence (which is what the rest of us have done).

The Aseem Malhotra lecture isn’t what you think it is.

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 8:19 am

Come on you weak mother’s basement basement’s dwelling wussies!

Pick yourself up by the bootstraps and man up! If you were a responsible adult you would get married to a woman you don’t even live with!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/15/couples-living-apart-together-post-pandemic

Goodbye from a very blessed Dave “Boomer Bootstraps” Ramsey.

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 8:20 am

It’s possible to be vaxxed and be anti-mandate. Also to be very anti low risk groups, especially children and youth, being vaxxed “to establish herd immunity”.

It’s also possible to change one’s mind on any issue, once new information comes to hand. What is more intelligent – doggedly sticking to an original but flawed idea or modifying your thinking to suit emerging facts? The problem is all the authoritarian, bellowing voices pushing one idea or the other, and damning anyone who disagrees over the slightest variation from the faith as they perceive it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 28, 2022 8:22 am

Anthony Albanese will declare momentum is growing to enshrining an Indigenous voice in the Constitution and, on Wednesday, start the countdown to the referendum, as he commits to holding a national poll in the next 12 months.

The Prime Minister will tell the Woodford Folk Festival, a favourite of Bob Hawke when he was alive, that “when Woodford takes place next year, the referendum on the voice to parliament will have been held”.

Good luck with that. Together with Energy Uselessness™, it will ensure Albo is leading a one-term government.

Pogria
Pogria
December 28, 2022 8:25 am

rickw,
that was hilarious. Also, I wasn’t surprised when Herrera said the Polish Commander survived and that Poles are “weird that way”. Lol. Grew up with a lot of Poles, practically unbreakable. Like Russians.
The portrayal of Boris the Blade, aka, Boris the Bullet Dodger in Lock, Stock was more of a training manual than a fictional movie scene.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 28, 2022 8:28 am

The two 17-year-olds, from Zillmere and Holland Park, …

This is going to be a real political mess.

This morning it was being reported that the 2 boys were in the area, because as part of their bail conditions they had to live in a half way house located in the same street as the victims’.

Very big oops.

P
P
December 28, 2022 8:29 am

First known Nativity scene figurines are on display in Rome
CNA – Dec 27, 2022

The Italian art historian and restorer noted that this is not the first depiction of Christ’s birth in Christian history, but it is the first Nativity scene in the form as it is known today.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 8:30 am

A man is at work one day when he notices that his co-worker is wearing an earring. This man knows his co-worker to be a normally conservative fellow and is curious about his sudden change in fashion sense. The man walks up to him and says “I didn’t know you were into earrings”. “Don’t make such a big deal, it’s only an earring” he replies sheepishly. His friend falls silent for a few minutes, but then his curiosity prods him to say “So, how long have you been wearing one?” “Ever since my wife found it in my truck”.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 8:33 am

Always do whatever’s next.

– George Carlin

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 8:37 am

Let’s see if the censorship of Kanye really was about antisemitism or not.

https://youtu.be/tx_aogbXCGg

From Salty

Whoopi Goldberg doubles down on Holocaust “not being racial”.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 8:42 am

I’m not worried, and all news is presented to engage our interest I suppose.
I’m also quite sure Xi being consistent with his ccp forbears and communist philosophy in general will have no qualms about even 2 million covid deaths of the frail elderly.
‘It’s the freedom they deserve’.

According to Marx and Engels. Individuals will ultimately serve the state in which the state will control many facets of the individuals’ life, but in return, the civilians will receive the freedoms they deserve in a communistic society.

Christine
Christine
December 28, 2022 8:42 am

P might know why Caravaggio placed Saints Francis and Lawrence at nativity scene.
I don’t know much about art.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 28, 2022 8:42 am

he’s anti covid vax while having been vaxed. This isn’t a problem to you?

There are at least 2 scenarios explaining this which I have seen at first hand amongst my circle. I know a dozen or more people in BOTH categories.

1) The became ‘antivax’ after taking one or more COVID injections, suffering side effects, getting gaslit by their own Drs and saying ‘no more’.
2) They were never in favour of the shots, but were forced to take them by top down co-ercion – family responsibilities etc.

Christine
Christine
December 28, 2022 8:43 am

Sortition is long overdue

Pogria
Pogria
December 28, 2022 8:45 am

flyinduk,
2) They were never in favour of the shots, but were forced to take them by top down co-ercion – family responsibilities etc.

Calli has been telling us this for months. Mater also, and numerous others here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 28, 2022 8:48 am

A top high school has been withholding academic awards

Interesting how we’ve exported tall poppy syndrome to the US as well as welcome to countrys.
Both lefty quirks of Australia that the Left in the US have adopted. Normally we adopt their rubbish.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 8:50 am

It’s also possible that people have to find reasons to explain anything.
Someone I know, quite a bit younger than Prof Chand had a heart attack, shortly before the vaxx roll-out, but he was in the right place at the right time, and was defibrillated within a minute of collapsing and his life saved.
Ambulance delay caused Manchester doctor’s death, claims son. Dr Malhotra says he believes his father would have “almost certainly survived” if the ambulance was not delayed

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 28, 2022 8:52 am

Whoopi Goldberg doubles down on Holocaust “not being racial”.

Sage advice.

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 8:52 am

Christine says:
December 28, 2022 at 8:43 am
Sortition is long overdue

Yes.

…and

Jury nullification
Confederalism
Sunset clauses on all legislation
Subsidiarity
CIR to strike down bad laws, and;
Recall elections

Pogria
Pogria
December 28, 2022 8:53 am

The huge difference between marrying class or marrying trash.

Cassie of Sydney
December 28, 2022 8:55 am

“Agelopoulos’ former suburban footy team Epping Football Netball Club distanced itself from the youth…

The “youth” is 23, ffs.
In unfashionable reckoning, an adult.”

This confirms something I wrote about here earlier this year, that we now live in a society where “youth” can mean anything up to 35 years old. Agelopoulos is NOT a youth, he’s a young adult male. Today our society extends adolescence so as to excuse bad and reckless behaviour, and there are never any consequences that ensue from this bad and reckless behaviour. There’s a reason ALL societies once made young men and women get married and procreate, because marriage and children instills responsibility and generally facilitates maturity.

Roger
Roger
December 28, 2022 8:56 am

This morning it was being reported that the 2 boys were in the area, because as part of their bail conditions they had to live in a half way house located in the same street as the victims’.

A half-way house for people headed into prison rather than coming out after having served their time. “Interesing” concept.

This is going to be a real political mess.

And so it should be.

Cassie of Sydney
December 28, 2022 8:58 am

“The huge difference between marrying class or marrying trash.”

Ah yes, Mrs Sparkle is trailer park trash.

Mater
December 28, 2022 9:00 am

Today our society extends adolescence so as to excuse bad and reckless behaviour, and there are never any consequences that ensue from this bad and reckless behaviour.

And yet, they want to lower the voting age.
When people suggest that the voting age should be lowered, I always agree (sarcastically) and add that the age for owning and using firearms, without supervision, should be likewise lowered.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 28, 2022 9:00 am

flyingduksays:
December 28, 2022 at 8:42 am
he’s anti covid vax while having been vaxed. This isn’t a problem to you?

There are at least 2 scenarios explaining this which I have seen at first hand amongst my circle. I know a dozen or more people in BOTH categories.

2) They were never in favour of the shots, but were forced to take them by top down coercion – family responsibilities etc.

flyingduk,

I am unvaxxed, but retired so no pressure re work, Family and GP pressure was immense, and as an RNSH attendee over 90 times during the 2 years of covid, some pressure, but not great

I was already on Anti-virals, Quercetin, Vit D, Zinc, NAC etc when COVID arrived, and after a lot of research decided to stick with that approach, but had HCQ if necessary.

Again I was lucky that I was in a position to be able to avoid pressure, but fully understand the position a lot of people were in re work & family pressure to be vaxxed.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 9:03 am

Apparently it is impossible for people who are fit and active to have heart attacks, yet I know of two. One was only 46, the other 58
blockages and he had examined his father years ago

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 28, 2022 9:04 am

Experimental aircraft were mentioned earlier. From a CASA document:

Note that experimental aircraft are not type-certificated; such aircraft may be issued an
experimental certificate for one or more of a number of specific recognised purposes, as follows:
· research and development
· showing compliance with regulations
· training the applicant’s flight crew
· exhibition
· air racing
· market surveys
· operating amateur-built aircraft
· operating kit-built aircraft
· private operations of aircraft previously used for research and development or showing
compliance with regulations

With the exception of the last, this is pretty much a copy of the U.S. regs. It has worked there for 70 years.
The “Experimental” is because Cessna, Piper, Beech didn’t like the idea of their market being taken away by people building their own, so got the authorities to require the word Experimental (scary)to be displayed in 2 inch high letters where anyone getting in can see it. In Australia we also require a notice visible to each occupant that says CASA doesn’t set safety standards for these aircraft and that people fly in it at own risk.
These aircraft are generally very desirable compared to factory built as they are faster, can go further and are significantly cheaper as you aren’t paying for the manufacturer’s product liability. They may require slightly higher pilot skill levels. They may not meet ALL the type certificate requirements but as aircraft are expensive and time intensive to build, the designers of them will in the vast majority of cases design to the certificated regs. It is just you don’t need some pubic serpent to sign on the dotted line. You can’t hire one out or use commercially.
It is a good system of individual responsibility. Who is going to be more careful building one, you or Joe Sixpack nailing a Cessna together that he knows neither he nor his family are ever going to fly in?
Also a lot of innovation in homebuilts has now transferred across to certified aircraft as it is well proven.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 9:07 am

Arkysays:
December 28, 2022 at 1:12 am
The now defunct Grov:
Where many a young apprentice fitter and turner met up with hairdressers from the Polytech next door. Across the avenue was Andrews and Bevans where I did my time. Where do young men meet young woman nowadays? Pub culture is mostly dead. So much of the good stuff is gone now. Pub culture, car culture., motorbike culture. Working man’s culture.

Christians find churches are good places to meet those with similar beliefs.

Leon L.
Leon L.
December 28, 2022 9:10 am

flyingduk says:
December 28, 2022 at 8:42 am
he’s anti covid vax while having been vaxed. This isn’t a problem to you?
There are at least 2 scenarios explaining this which I have seen at first hand amongst my circle. I know a dozen or more people in BOTH categories.

Malone said he got the vax as he needed to travel with his work commitments. This was early on, before the safety issue was known.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 28, 2022 9:15 am

People also need to realise that CASA doesn’t care about aviation safety except for airlines and they have an interest in not killing passengers anyway.
One of my airline pilot mate’s colleagues recently went to work at CASA. First thing they told him was that there were only two things he had to worry about – his pay and his leave entitlements.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 28, 2022 9:16 am

It’s also possible that people have to find reasons to explain anything.

Aseem Malhotra said that his father had a clean cardiac bill of health only months before his heart attack. This included a calcium scan and CT angiogram showing NO coronary disease. Then he gets injected, and dies within months with EXTENSIVE coronary disease found at autopsy… THAT was his light bulbs moment.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 28, 2022 9:19 am

EXCLUSIVE: How violent teen gangs who boast online about home invasions have one of Australia’s largest cities gripped by fear – as locals reel from the murder of a mother trying to protect her family

. Brisbane residents have raised concerns about youth crime
. It comes as Emma Lovell, 41, was killed during a home invasion
. Two 17-year-old boys were arrested and have been charged

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 28, 2022 9:24 am

From the science based medicine blurb
I challenge any audience member to find me a physician who directly recommended an unhealthy lifestyle to a patient.

Food Pyramid anyone?

That site is just a hit piece site trying to discredit anyone who deviates from conventional wisdom. Which is the only way any progress is made. See poor old Semmelweiss.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 9:25 am

violent teen gangs who boast online about home invasions have one of Australia’s largest cities gripped by fear – as locals reel from the murder of a mother trying to protect her family

I sense another Ricky Slater event in the near future.

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 9:27 am

Funny how these adolescent gangs avoid:

Share houses of young men who go pig hunting
Boxing & other martial arts coaches
Cops or ex cops
Guys who own a veritable collection of firearms
Military and younger ex military types
Professional pest management shooters
Friend groups consisting of the above

It’s almost as though they prey on the weaker members of society.

Pogria
Pogria
December 28, 2022 9:28 am

KD,
I sense another Ricky Slater event in the near future.

As I said in an earlier thread, time for the three S’s.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 9:30 am

Food Pyramid anyone?

Hallward, the “defying” question relates to the word “deliberately”. Your example is nonsense.

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