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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 3:43 pm

Bourne1879says:
December 28, 2022 at 3:29 pm
J Rotten,
One of the biggest failures of the vaccine was that it did not prevent the oldest Aussie, aged 110, dying ! In fact the article about his death implicated Covid which he had several weeks earlier.
One Courier Mail article had a 102 dying of Covid.

They could both have made it to at least 115!

If you look at most state Government health web pages you will find little info of ages of dying.

And here am I at age 70 years not giving a shit about the ‘Rona. Not been jabbed and never will be. I have good genes and My Mum is still alive at age 92 years. And she hasn’t been jabbed either (I told her not to get jabbed). All the Guv’ment had to do was to protect the most vunerable. BUT they did not. They tried to scare everyone and did a good job so it seems. The ‘Rona was no worse than a very Bad Flu. To put it in the same frame as the Spanish Flu was as The Ginger Witch said in her welsh……… hyperbowl-,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL. Don’t you love the English Language when not spoken very well………………..LOL

And she was all about the Edjecation Revolution…………..FMD

John H.
John H.
December 28, 2022 3:45 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 3:46 pm

Don’t think it’s real driving, but still the song is great

Vicki
Vicki
December 28, 2022 3:46 pm

And withholding the antibiotics that cure the consequential bacterial pneumonia that killed a lot.

The “pneumonia” that many developed was actually an inflammatory condition in the lungs caused by the spike protein. Dr Shankara Chetty, a doctor in South Africa who treated thousands of Covid patients, observed that on the 8th day of Covid some patients developed this life threatening condition. As it reminded him of an allergic reaction, he treated his patients with antihistamines and aspirin, and, I recall, steroids. He did not lose a patient. Scottish doctor Dr. Malcolm Kendrick also observed patients sometimes dying suddenly when they had shown very mild symptoms & wasn’t sure why this was so. I have always thought that the footage of Chinese dying suddenly in the street, which has been so derided as false by the West, may have been the result of this phenomenon.

johanna
johanna
December 28, 2022 3:47 pm

TheirABC has been warning of Thermageddon as the first wave of normal summer weather comes through the south east of the continent.

We’ve had a few days in the low thirties – hasn’t even hit 35C. The nights have have been quite cool, mostly down in the low teens. A doddle compared to many previous summers.

A clear case of ‘wishing don’t make it so.’

Zipster
Zipster
December 28, 2022 3:50 pm

At minimum, Dr. Gundry would need to repeat the test with a control group, which wasn’t even done in the original abstract. If Dr. Malhotra and colleagues sincerely think the entire world failed to catch vaccine-accelerated coronary atherosclerosis, coronary hypersensitivity, myocarditis, and dilated cardiomypathy, do the study to show that we all missed it!

try and get funding for this and report back. this hiding behind peer review which still produces dodgy results for example the case against ivermectin then we will be here for the next 20 years debating the damage of mRNA genetic experiments.

In relation to the claims about statins, these actually help against covid and long covid specifically, but not by lowering cholesterol, by being fractalkine ligand antagonists. There is a reason statins are included in flccc protocols and it has nothing to do with cholesterol.

So taking his dad off statins was a mistake.

the rest of the rebuttal is basically saying no peer reviewed double blind controlled experiments showing harm therefor piss off.

hang on isn’t that what big pharma’s job is to do, to prove the injectables are safe, not the other way around? something they were given a pass on because emergency authorisation.

we already know the mRNA injectables were a national security response to a bioweapon leak or deployment. the fact it killed people, is and continues to be irrelevant.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 3:56 pm

Dover

It’s not really re-purposing marriage in the slightest. You purport to be religious, consequently a non-religious marriage ought to be of no import to you as a registry marriage doesn’t count to someone with a religious bent. It’s similar to “living in sin”.

You persist with telling me it impacts you personally without explaining why. How eggsactly?

For all intents a registry marriage is giving slightly more recognition to a defacto relationship. Just as defacto doesn’t impact either of us neither do a couple of queers pretending they’re married. It’s bullshit. Why care?

Children? They could adopt before.

Cassie of Sydney
December 28, 2022 3:56 pm

“To be accurate she is against blokes in women’s toilets and playing women’s sport.”

As any sane, reasonable, intelligent person should be.

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 3:57 pm

Thanks Bourne. Just got hijacked by two small girls wanting me to make them “handbags”!

I wondered if there was a political angle re the upcoming NSW elections. If so, watch it all disappear when Labor are elected here. As it is, we can claim all those deaths happened on Albo’s watch.

Turn about is fair play.

shatterzzz
December 28, 2022 4:02 pm

Almost one million Australians are in line for welfare payment increases starting January 1.
Carer payments, mobility allowance and single parents payments were also expected to see increases.
Albanese shoring up his support base…

Nope, just the usual! .. for some reason the gummint has different dates during the year for increases in various welfare benefit .. the January 1 mainly affects education & under 21 payments ..
OAP, rorters & dole are 20 March & 20 September every year ……

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 4:02 pm

i tried to do my best as did so many of my contemporaries. All now gone.

We’re still here Macbeth fighting the good fight.

I was thinking of you at Christmas but didn’t get it up here, apologies for that.
I was running around like a wizzer wozzer, whatever that is.
I hope you are well and it is great to see you here again.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 4:02 pm

TheirABC has been warning of Thermageddon as the first wave of normal summer weather comes through the south east of the continent.

Yes Johanna the media have told us all day Melbourne had their hottest night. In 5 years.
Locally, there was a heatwave warning despite it being quite hot yesterday, beautiful day today with temperature down, maybe 35 on the weekend.
2 days above 30 in a week constituteth* not a heatwave dummies.
*Channeling the Bard

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 4:03 pm

Bucket Man update (the Hun):

A man dubbed “Bucket Man” has travelled to Newcastle while on bail for assaulting a goalkeeper during the Aami Park pitch invasion, which a magistrate described as “relatively notorious”.

Alex Agelopoulos faced a short hearing via video link in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday, where he held his camera under his chin and complained of his bad wi-fi connection.

Cue nonna: ‘Heeeee’s a gooooot boyyyyyyyy……..’

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:04 pm

I talked to a homeless man this morning and asked him how he ended up this way. He said “Up until last week, I still had it all. I had plenty to eat, my clothes were washed and pressed, I had a roof over my head, I had TV and Internet, and I went to the gym, the pool, and the library. I was working on my MBA on-line. I had no bills and no debt. I even had full medical coverage”. I felt sorry for him, so I asked “What happened? Drugs? Alcohol? Divorce?” “Oh no, nothing like that” he said. “No, no… I was paroled”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 4:05 pm

Bourne1879

At the very least 80% in aged care must have had the virus and yet less than 10% dying with it. Oops with multiple co-morbidities!

“With”, not “of”.

And what percentage of aged care residents die from old age and co-morbidities each year?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:05 pm

The only source of knowledge is experience.

= Albert Einstein

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 4:07 pm

Good lord.

Get a look at this vaccuous waffle from a pubic serpent in the spotlight.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/dec/28/australia-news-live-albanese-renewables-climate-vic-nsw-qld-weather-politics-christmas-covid-woodford-festival-labour

Queensland’s Youth Justice Taskforce assistant commissioner Cheryl Scanlon is speaking. She says it’s only 48 hours into the investigation.

I just want to reiterate many of the things whilst I’ve been head of the Youth Justice Taskforce over the last two years, about youth crime, these are complex and multifaceted issues* and this conversation is important for the community. Youth crime is as complex an issue as some of the things that we see in domestic violence and other wicked problems** in the community.

Those things are not fixed overnight*** and they would take considerable effort by all agencies and everyone in the community. These events are nothing any of us want to see. They affect all of us when it happens.

And as the minister alluded to, everybody wants the same thing here and that is a safe community. I don’t have any further to add on that.
….

Updated at 04.49 GMT
42m ago
04.18 GMT
Police will allege the husband and wife were at home when they heard dogs barking. A confrontation happened in which Lovell and her husband were allegedly both stabbed.

Their two teenage daughters were present during the confrontation. They were not harmed but remain very traumatised by the ordeal.

Queensland police said the investigation could take weeks.****

*Im going out on a limb here.
The perps are scrotes.
They have a history of being scrotes
Because they were scrotes they stabbed someone.
Thats about as multifaceted as it gets.

**”What happened to you”
“Oh this wicked problem in the community got me, its going around”.

*** Lock up scrotes. You already have figures that show higher incarceration rate of scrotes leads to a safer community and reduced crime.

**** Is Cert 3 “suspension by the neck until dead, dead, dead” longer than a week course? They could shave a couple of days off it if they skip the first aid/CPR component.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 4:08 pm

Warner spills a chance at slip any decent clubbie would swallow in one hand with a schooner in the other.

Perhaps if he were taller.

Immediate retirement beckons further.

Zipster
Zipster
December 28, 2022 4:08 pm

If the belief is that the immunization associated SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is causing hypercoagulability, show us some immunofluorescence proving that vaccine spike is there! Show us an abnormal thromboelastograph in real patients with the clots you believe are there!

Dr. Resia Pretorius has done exactly that.

Show us a T-cell or cytokine assay revealing a previously unknown behavior of the immune system!

Dr Bruce Patterson has done exactly that.

if this Frank Han dickhead resorts to quoting reuters for so called fact checks, which he has done, then he has lost all credibility.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 4:09 pm

You persist with telling me it impacts you personally without explaining why. How eggsactly?

I think it does affect us all, JC. Not directly, but in ways that matter for the understandings and approvals that society has for foundational stuff such as parenthood – mothers and fathers – and biological kinships such as up and down the lineal generations, and collaterally with siblings. It seems to subvert the natural order of things that we see in the biological coupledom of everyday life – all over the world, men and women join in marriages to produce and bring up children. Look down any street and you’ll see the ‘coupling’ of heterosexual humanity. It is not an optional thing – without this happening, and without this being as natural as night and day, humans would die out.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 4:10 pm

The perps are scrotes.
They have a history of being scrotes
Because they were scrotes they stabbed someone.
Thats about as multifaceted as it gets.

BAM.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:10 pm

Yes Johanna the media have told us all day Melbourne had their hottest night. In 5 years.
Locally, there was a heatwave warning despite it being quite hot yesterday, beautiful day today with temperature down, maybe 35 on the weekend.
2 days above 30 in a week constituteth* not a heatwave dummies.
*Channeling the Bard

I remember living in the heat of Australia many many years ago. There were no warnings then about so called heatwaves. So how come now? Alarmism? Of course. And paid for by our tax dollars……………

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 4:12 pm

One thing Dragger, if Warner doesn’t shout Labuschagne grog for all of next year he’s the flog of flogs.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:14 pm

The Pope was having a shower. Although he’s very strict about celibacy he occasionally felt he needed to exercise the Papal wrist, and this happened to be one of those occasions. Just as he reached the Papal climax he saw a photographer taking a picture of the Holy seed flying through the air.

“Hold on a minute!” said the Pope “You can’t do that – you’ll destroy the reputation of the Church!” “This is my big lottery win” said the photographer “I’ll be financially secure for life with these photos!”

So the Pope offered to buy the camera from the photographer. After much negotiation they eventually settled on a figure of two million Euros.

The Pope clothed himself and headed off to destroy the images on the camera.

Along the vast Vatican hallways, he bumped into his personal housekeeper.

Being a bit of a photography buff, she noticed the camera and said “That looks like a really expensive digital SLR camera, how much did it cost you?” Not being one to lie the Pope replied “Two million Euros…”

“TWO MILLION EUROS!” replied the housekeeper “They must have seen you coming!”

LOL.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:16 pm

Part of the secret of a success in life is to eat what you like and let the food fight it out inside.

– Mark Twain

Robert Sewell
December 28, 2022 4:22 pm

Plasmamortar:

.357 mag hollowpoint for indoor use?? ?

It would do the job – but make sure you have lead lined walls.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 4:27 pm

.357 mag hollowpoint for indoor use?? ?

You can use a panzerfaust indoors if you like. It just depends on how much you care about other stuff.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 28, 2022 4:28 pm

10 minutes ago
‘This country will vote Yes,’ Burney tells Woodford
Georgina Noack
GEORGINA NOACK

Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney has delivered a speech at the Woodford Folk Festival, saying she is confident Australians will vote in favour of an Indigenous Voice to parliament.

Speaking at the iconic music and cultural event located 72km north of Brisbane, Ms Burney urged all Australians to write a new chapter in the nation’s history by supporting the upcoming referendum.

The minister said she was more scared of continuing with the status quo than the referendum failing.

“It won’t be easy, progress rarely is. If we do not try, then we have already lost. If we do not try, then we might never have a possibility of bringing this nation together united like never before,” Ms Burney said.

“In 2023, I know this country is up for it (the referendum). I know that this country will vote Yes.”

Ms Burney said the Voice would provide independent advice to parliament and government on matters affecting Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians, and urged Ausrtalians to talk about it with their friends, family, and colleagues.

She said no other public policy question in Australia had been subject to as much inquiry, research, public consultation and report writing as the constitutional recognition of Indigenous Australians.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will deliver a speech at the festival shortly, and is expected to say he respects the right of all Australians to make their own decision on the referendum.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:31 pm

Albesleasy is not so easy. Whoever voted for those creeps will be disappointed. Big Time.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:33 pm

You cannot vote for this voice rubbish as there is nothing to vote on. End of whatever.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The two 17-yo murderers in Brisbane:
Three years after becoming Premier, Anastacia Palaszczuk raised the age at which you’re tried & jailed as an adult.
…. othewise this pair would be facing up to an adult sentence, served in Big Boy’s Jail.

Were I Qld’s leader of the opposition, that nugget would be on high rotation & receiving maximum possible publicity.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 28, 2022 4:36 pm

You cannot vote for this voice rubbish as there is nothing to vote on. End of whatever.

All I see the voice as being is a vehicle for the activists and an instrument of division. It will settle nothing – the next demand will be for a treaty, then “compensation” and “reparations.”

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:39 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
December 28, 2022 at 4:03 pm
Bucket Man update (the Hun):

A man dubbed “Bucket Man” has travelled to Newcastle while on bail for assaulting a goalkeeper during the Aami Park pitch invasion, which a magistrate described as “relatively notorious”.

Alex Agelopoulos faced a short hearing via video link in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday, where he held his camera under his chin and complained of his bad wi-fi connection.

Cue nonna: ‘Heeeee’s a gooooot boyyyyyyyy……..’

The pronown/dickhead/twat/arsehole/wanker/whatever just needs a good kicking and thrown to the sharks as bait.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 28, 2022 4:43 pm

Albanese shoring up his support base…

Nope, just the usual!

The same thing the Biden White House trumpeted as an unprecedented achievement – the highest percent increase in welfare payments EVAH!!!

Fact checked by people on Twitter: it is an automatic indexed increase in accordance with a provision signed into law by Nixon.

Oh, and the record breaking increase was due to record breaking inflation.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 4:46 pm

Mother Lodesays:
December 28, 2022 at 4:43 pm

Same old story.

Government ‘fixing’ a problem it created.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 4:47 pm

All I see the voice as being is a vehicle for the activists and an instrument of division. It will settle nothing – the next demand will be for a treaty, then “compensation” and “reparations.”

There can never be a Treaty as there was never any one to have a Treaty with. The aborigines in Sydney Cove had no idea that there were aborigines in Broome or Alice Springs or Margaret River or Torres Strait or Tasmania. And there was no Flag. It has all been invented to make money from the long suffering Australian Taxpayer. You Knobs.

No more money is my next Vote and my next Voice. Listen.

Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 4:50 pm

Spending weeks on end sleeping with one eye open, weapon under the pillow and all between my little children and marauders was two dergs, a somnambulant “security guard” armed with bow and arrow…and me. How to grow up fast.

People who aren’t regulars at Dover Cat don’t understand one of its most valuable features is that, as well as the trolls (who are tolerated because if they weren’t it would be an echo chamber), it attracts people who have unmatcheable experience in the real world.

Calli, for example, who supplied the above quote, has run a very successful small business — partially flowing from her experience living among primitive people in the PNG highlands where resourcefulness and independent thought are not only useful, but essential for survival.

Vicki
Vicki
December 28, 2022 4:52 pm

In relation to the claims about statins, these actually help against covid and long covid specifically, but not by lowering cholesterol, by being fractalkine ligand antagonists. There is a reason statins are included in flccc protocols and it has nothing to do with cholesterol.

Hey, thank you Zipster, I didn’t know that.

Vicki
Vicki
December 28, 2022 4:54 pm

we already know the mRNA injectables were a national security response to a bioweapon leak or deployment.

Yes – this is what Dr. Phillip Altman reckons. See his recent article in The Australian Spectator.

johanna
johanna
December 28, 2022 4:55 pm

Black Ball says:
December 28, 2022 at 4:02 pm

TheirABC has been warning of Thermageddon as the first wave of normal summer weather comes through the south east of the continent.

Yes Johanna the media have told us all day Melbourne had their hottest night. In 5 years.
Locally, there was a heatwave warning despite it being quite hot yesterday, beautiful day today with temperature down, maybe 35 on the weekend.
2 days above 30 in a week constituteth* not a heatwave dummies.
*Channeling the Bard

I arrived in Melbourne in January 1973, to live for a year. I was living and working in a three storey house in Drummond Street, Carlton. During the day, it was so hot inside that I would stand under a cold (lukewarm) shower until my clothes were drenched and then re-emerge to do some work, until my clothes dried out and I would do it again. I slept under a wet towel. True, I relocated from Canberra, but summer there is pretty hot.

The BOM is a hotbed of activists who have crawled inside the skinsuit of a once respected institution.

All those maps with red hot areas (that turn out not to happen.) Remember ‘the angry summer’ – which was just a typical summer during a drought period.

Schoolkids today need more Henry Lawson and Steele Rudd, and less pap about gender awareness and ecological disaster.

BTW, been watching a few of those ‘off the grid’ so-called reality programs recently. I am curious to know how sincere they are.

Turns out that ‘off the grid’ means pouring a concrete slab, using earthmoving equipment and even cranes, finished off with Chinese-manufactured solar panels and Tesla batteries.

But hey – they’re ‘off the grid.’

It reminds me of Marie Antoinette in a milkmaid’s costume.

Tom
Tom
December 28, 2022 5:02 pm

Liberty quote:

The BOM is a hotbed of activists who have crawled inside the skinsuit of a once respected institution.

— Johanna.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 5:02 pm

More good stuff to jam it up (JC). What a wanker and a dipstick hiding behind Dover. You can’t take it can you? You Fake.

Party Politics

Blog/America’s Economic History
Posted Dec 28, 2022 by Martin Armstrong
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COMMENT: Thoughts regarding your “Trump and 2024” comments. I’ve been following your blog for well over 10 years and signed up on your basic Socrates program months ago. I’m 67 and voted Democrat most of my life until 2016. I voted for Trump. No way I was voting for Hillary Clinton and considering the political DNC and Deep State gamesmanship following Trump’s victory I’ll likely never vote blue again. It was and is disgusting.
I’m also a Floridian and voted for DeSantis. I think he’s a great governor for Florida. But there is absolutely no way I’ll vote for him for POTUS. If DeSantis is the GOP candidate I’ll stay home on voting day. In my mind, deep down, he’s just another RINO and will just return us to the status quo. He also has a few ghosts in his closet. I’m personally peeved that he held one of his first cabinet meetings in Israel. And his time at GITMO, if true, is likely to come back to haunt him.

To me Trump is the only one that would, shall we say, have the motivation to get done what really needs to get done inside the beltway and beyond. One would only hope he learned the necessary lessons and could surround himself with the right support staff. Of course, that’s the mystical, magical question. He obviously listened to McConnell too much last go around.
I would never profess to have more insight than you and certainly not Socrates. I am simply expressing a personal belief that Trump is our best hope to navigate what’s coming our way. I’m not ready to give up on him yet…and if I do I’ll just throw in the towel and hope for the best.
From a Loyal Follower of your Blog!

REPLY: I think a lot of people just have a false impression of politics these days. They take what politicians say seriously. I also think that was Trump’s problem. He did try to actually keep his promises, which politicians routinely do not do. Biden said he would make abortion a constitutional right. He knew that was total BS. To create a Constitutional Amendment you first have to get it through Congress and then every state legislator must agree. It would take years even if you tried. which was total nonsense. But if it gets votes, no problem.

Trump thought being President actually meant you got to run the country like a corporation. They stuffed his cabinet and the Deep State always runs the game. He had to find that out the hard way.

As I said before, I could run for office promise whatever you want to hear. Then when you get there, the Party boss has a gathering and you are told how to vote and when. Just look at the votes in Congress. They are Party Line. Personally, I would prefer DeSantis to stay here in Florida. I think he has done a great job. However, Washington is nothing but a conflict of interest on steroids. Just look at how they poured money into Ukraine, Zelensky then fed it to FTX and FTX became the 2d largest donor to the Democrats. It was money laundering that will never be allowed to get to trial.

People do not understand that running the nation is far different than an individual state. Look at California and New Jersey v Florida and Texas. They do not even blend together to form a united country. In New Jersey, stores are not allowed to give you a bag. The governor is constructing windmills in the ocean and it’s only a matter of time before he outlaws gas cars and gas stations. The United States is rapidly becoming ungovernable as a united nation. The political difference is so great, it no longer makes sense to have a single nation. The Roman Empire split into three, a civil war was fought to bring it back together.

Then Diocletian divided the Empire in two and this created the Tetrarchy. That lasted just 23 years before Constantine I (307-337AD) reestablished one emperor. But then the West fell and the East survived as the Byzantine Empire after about 180 years. The official Byzantine Empire began in 498AD with the Monetary Reform of Anastasius I (491-518AD). The Byzantine Empire lasted until 1453. The likelihood of the separation of the United States begins to increase post-2024. The United States as we have known it may no longer exist post-2036.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/history/americas-economic-history/party-politics/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

JMH
JMH
December 28, 2022 5:04 pm

Johnny Rottensays:
December 28, 2022 at 3:15 pm
Still, at least Rudd will be out of our hair for a while. Thanks, Albo.

No he will not. The RKudd is a menace. He will not be a Diplomat as he is an ArseHole of the first degree.

Just look at those youtube videos and you will see the measure of the TWAT.

But this will be Albosleazy’s baby – from birth to national embarrassment!

I’m gunna love it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 28, 2022 5:05 pm

The BOM is a hotbed of activists who have crawled inside the skinsuit of a once respected institution.

— Johanna.

Druids of the new religion.

Dot
Dot
December 28, 2022 5:07 pm

by Martin Armstrong

No. Please don’t.

The United States as we have known it may no longer exist post-2036.

They endured a civil war which was one of the major conflicts of world history.

Robert Sewell
December 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Bourne1879:

If you look at most state Government health web pages you will find little info of ages of dying.

We must now look at the media as an arm of the government and look at the Russian treatment of them.
Lies, more lies, and hyperbullshit.
Analyse what they don’t say instead of what they do.

johanna
johanna
December 28, 2022 5:09 pm

I just want to reiterate many of the things whilst I’ve been head of the Youth Justice Taskforce over the last two years, about youth crime, these are complex and multifaceted issues* and this conversation is important for the community. Youth crime is as complex an issue as some of the things that we see in domestic violence and other wicked problems** in the community.

This in response to a mother who was murdered in her own home.

There was an even worse one at TheirABC this morning where a do-gooder said that what was needed was to find a ‘safe space’ for the murderer and the rest of the young thugs like him.

Not a word about the victim. Nope. It was all about the perps.

Then there was some eunuch copper saying the now popular line ‘we cannot arrest our way out of this problem.’ That one is popping up everywhere.

Well, you could, if there were suitable consequences. We are talking about habitual, serial offenders. When locked up, they can’t offend.

That poor woman’s family are not going to be made whole by a lot of posturing by do-gooders. Shame on them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 5:09 pm

The “Spanish Flu” was entirely Vaccine caused Mortality.

You can’t be serious. Vaccines for ‘flu were non-existent in 1920. Treatments were very basic.
This ‘flu swept through whole populations, in remote areas like Inuit Canada as well as through industrial urban slums. Highly infectious, it felled young people in particular who had huge immune-responding cytokine storms, not necessarily only the immune-compromised, although they could cop it too, and did it in a day or less at times. It came in waves, not all of them of decreasing severity although some were. This is why influenza has been on the public health list as a number one worry for all future pandemics; thinking Covid was going to be similar explains the early panic. A big one was expected, plans were made (including no lockdowns), and we wuz ready. Covid was a fizzer. Watch out for another nasty ‘flu though, it hasn’t gone away. I take my ‘flu vaxx regularly, and will do so until they change it to mRNA. Then I’ll reconsider.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:10 pm

Liz

You’re telling me gay marriage impacts heteros in some way because it does. That’s your argument?

Okay, let’s take your procreation argument.

Russia doesn’t allow gay marriage and queer relationships are frowned upon.

Russia’s fertility rate?

1.50 births per woman (2020)

Let’s take Australia, a very gay friendly nation.

Australia’s fertility rate?

1.58 births per woman (2020)

If we use your perverse argument then, gay marriage must help the fertility rate because Australia has a slightly higher fertility rate to Russia. In other words, the procreation argument is made up. It’s just bullshit.

Incidentally, Russia’s abortion rate is the highest in the world. I might repeat, it’s the highest despite being gay unfriendly.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 5:11 pm

Albanese shoring up his support base…

Albo shoring up support at a jeering rock concert crowd.

You might want to have a bit of respect for what I’m about to say…

…and immediately retreats to “First Nations” people.

Cowardly invertebrate.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 28, 2022 5:15 pm

That cell to the north Alice has been there for days. They are having fun.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:15 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
December 28, 2022 at 5:02 pm

More good stuff to jam it up (JC). What a wanker and a dipstick hiding behind Dover. You can’t take it can you? You Fake.

I can take it, Rodney Rottenhead, however Dover has explicitly said he doesn’t want lowrent aggro of the senseless stuff you post here. I bet, you were a shop steward.

Only someone of low intellect would excitedly post anything that fraud Armstrong has to say.

You should be deported.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 28, 2022 5:16 pm

Anthony Albanese has faced a barrage of yells and screams from anti oil and gas protesters at the Woodford Folk Festival, admonishing them for not “listening” to the rest of the crowd who cheered when the Prime Minister asked if he had given the protestors “a fair go” to chant and yell.

Shouts of “oil and gas” could be heard from the group to the left of the stage, with some brandishing #StopAdani T-shirts.

Mr Albanese, who walked on to the stage to give an address at the festival being held north of Brisbane, said he would give the protestors a moment to be heard.

“How about we agree we’ll give the group over here another minute to chant whatever they want and then we’ll get on with it?” he said over the yells.

After a few seconds, he asked the crowd: “We have given them all a fair go, does everyone agree?” and was met with cheers and applause.

The Prime Minister then delivered a veiled swipe to the protestors who continued yelling.

“In a democracy we actually listen to the majority and what they think,” he said.

Mr Albanese pushed through his address, in which he said the implementation of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament would allow Australia to “reach its full potential” and become “an even greater” nation.

He reaffirmed his government’s commitment to holding a referendum on the Voice, which would occur within the next 12 months.

“It will be when we join with our continent’s mosaic of ancient nations that our modern nation will find its greatest strength, achieve its fullest potential, and realise its truest self,” he told the crowd.

“We live in the world’s greatest nation, but an even greater Australia is so tantalisingly within our reach. Together, I know we can reach it.”

Oz

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 5:16 pm

It reminds me of Marie Antoinette in a milkmaid’s costume.

Perfect.

As I recall, it didn’t end well.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 28, 2022 5:20 pm

A newly elected Republican congressman has admitted fabricating his education and work experience as he faces allegations that he lied on his CV to win his seat.

George Santos, 34, who prised New York’s third congressional district away from the Democrats to help give the Republicans a narrow majority in the House of Representatives, had claimed that he worked for two Wall Street banks and attended university. None of that was true.

Despite this, Santos insists he will take the oath of office to be sworn in to Congress next week.

On paper, Santos was the perfect candidate for Republicans to break into a Democratic stronghold. The self-proclaimed “embodiment of the American dream”, he claimed to be the gay son of Brazilian immigrants and that he was a “seasoned Wall Street financier and investor” with a real estate portfolio of 13 properties.

Santos also claimed that he was Jewish and that his grandparents had “survived the Holocaust”.

If his glittering business career and emotive family history were not enough to clinch it for voters in the wealthy Democratic-leaning area of Long Island, Santos claimed he spent his spare time running an animal rescue charity he established called Pets United.

However, Santos’s story quickly began to unravel, forcing him to break his silence in an interview with the New York Post.

He admitted that he “never worked directly” for Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and that the fabrication had been down to a “poor choice of words”. He also confessed that he did not attend Baruch College, as he had claimed, nor any other university.

“I didn’t graduate from any institution of higher learning. I’m embarrassed and sorry for having embellished my resume,” he said. “We do stupid things in life.”

His claim that his grandparents were Ukrainian Jews who fled to Brazil to escape the Nazis also fell apart. The Forward, a Jewish news site, found that there were no records of Santos’s grandparents at the International Center on Nazi Persecution.

“I never claimed to be Jewish,” he backtracked to the Post. “I am Catholic. Because I learnt my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was ‘Jewish’.” Pets United also appeared to be a figment of his imagination. The authorities have no record of a registered charity in that name.

Santos is also facing allegations that he lied about his sexuality after The Daily Beast reported that he had been married to a woman, whom he divorced in 2019. He now claims to be a happily married gay man. “I dated women in the past. I married a woman,” he told the Post. “People change.”

“I am not a criminal,” Santos insisted, claiming that the controversy should not prevent him from entering Congress. “This will not deter me from having good legislative success. I will be good … My sins here are embellishing my resume. I’m sorry.”

Democrats demanded that Santos be barred from taking his seat and face an investigation. The Republican Jewish Coalition condemned the congressman-elect in a statement yesterday (Tuesday). “We are very disappointed in congressman-elect Santos. He deceived us.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 5:20 pm

Still the latest story about Keern Phelps at their ABCces is the dope growing one.

Hemp research push begins with consortium keen for crop expansion
Renowned doctor Kerryn Phelps will lead a consortium of universities and international companies seeking to make hemp into one of Australia’s top crops.

7 Nov 20227 November 2022

Ex head of the AMA, ex-politician suffering vaccine injury (and her partner) is appeartnly less newsworthy than…

Dermatologists say vitamin A products are exploding in popularity but warn of potential for sun damage

m0nty
m0nty
December 28, 2022 5:21 pm

But a tiny minority of us knew that the Spanish flu was actually caused by mass vaccination and had nothing to do with contagious disease.

A late but very strong contender for the stupidest thing said on the Cat all year. Well done Figures, you stand out from the crowd.

JMH
JMH
December 28, 2022 5:21 pm

Woodford Folk Festival. A collection/collective of non-thinkers and Socialist happy-clappers. No wonder Burney and the Sleaze are keen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 5:22 pm

That cell to the north Alice has been there for days. They are having fun.

‘They’?

Is this EMP-related? If so, what is their goal?

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:22 pm

Crispin Berka

Your argument doesn’t wash. People here have said that Malone was the father of mRNA. He took the vax despite his many protestations it is dangerous. He didn’t have to as he was old enough and likely wealthy enough to avoid the vax. He’s very much different to the rest of us as we didn’t develop this process. He did.

Also, I’m stickler for revealed preferences as I believe talk is cheap.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 5:24 pm

John M Barry’s ‘The Great Influenza’ details the full story of this pandemic, of its spread and attempts to curtail that, and of treatments, including the earliest attempts to identify a pathogen and find a vaccine. They found a bacterium, but the wisest knew they were searcing for a virus. And there it stayed. They did develop a serum of sorts from the blood of sufferers, capturing some antibodies which helped, but almost no-one got this serum; it was all highly experimental. It was very early days for immunology, as the book compellingly recounts, interspersing this search with the chaos the disease caused worldwide.

Robert Sewell
December 28, 2022 5:25 pm

ZK2A:

All I see the voice as being is a vehicle for the activists and an instrument of division. It will settle nothing – the next demand will be for a treaty, then “compensation” and “reparations.”

It will become an excuse for violence from the Left, because we are racists.
The end game is racial violence getting out of control just as is happening in the US.
Then they will have the opportunity to confiscate all the weapons.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 5:27 pm

You can’t be serious. Vaccines for ‘flu were non-existent in 1920.
That’s a very dishonest response.

This ‘flu swept through whole populations, in remote areas like Inuit Canada as well as through industrial urban slums. Highly infectious, it felled young people in particular who had huge immune-responding cytokine storms, not necessarily only the immune-compromised, although they could cop it too, and did it in a day or less at times

You’ve lifted this from somewhere but haven’t acknowledged them.
In fact, “Spanish Flu” followed the vaccinated soldiers returning from the Great War, hospital patients, women in Maternity Wards, Indians on reservations, they all got it.
Evidence points to Fort Detrick, the same place that the CovidVaxx was developed.

sfw
sfw
December 28, 2022 5:27 pm

We need the following words to be used again in our courts.

“The sentence of this court is that you will be taken from here to the place from whence you came and there be kept in close confinement until [date of execution], and upon that day that you be taken to the place of execution and there hanged by the neck until you are dead. And may God have mercy upon your soul.”

Christine
Christine
December 28, 2022 5:29 pm

A “mosaic of ancient nations”
An almost elegant description. But false

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 5:29 pm

Belay that m0nty!

That gong belongs to me and I’ll defend it to the death!

m0nty
m0nty
December 28, 2022 5:31 pm

Groogs: shut up, you pillock.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 28, 2022 5:34 pm

“It will be when we join with our continent’s mosaic of ancient nations that our modern nation will find its greatest strength, achieve its fullest potential, and realise its truest self,” he told the crowd.

“We live in the world’s greatest nation, but an even greater Australia is so tantalisingly within our reach. Together, I know we can reach it.”

Albanese honestly thinks this is his Redfern speech. Did Don Watson write this trite Michelle Obama-lite shite?

“In a democracy we actually listen to the majority and what they think,” he said.

Oh dear, the hazards of improvising. Not that anyone in the MSM will keep that one in the memory locker.

calli
calli
December 28, 2022 5:36 pm

Or at least midnight Saturday!

I don’t want to steal my own future.

😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 5:37 pm

‘They’?
Is this EMP-related? If so, what is their goal?

Nothing yet.

Patience, my pretties. Patience. All in good time.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 5:39 pm

If we use your perverse argument then, gay marriage must help the fertility rate because Australia has a slightly higher fertility rate to Russia. In other words, the procreation argument is made up. It’s just bullshit.

No. It’s axiomatic. No proper marriages= no enduring mums and dads and grandparents and siblings.
Marriages produce families and families produce communities and nations. I can’t see what is so hard to see about that.

It’s got nothing at all to do with the reproduction rate of any given country.
That’s the sort of missing the point argument one might expect from an economist, lol.
That is a total furphy. Lots of things interfere with the reproduction rate, not just sexual relationships, although they do play a part. Try alcoholism and STD’s for a start. Then add career-mindedness in females and an anti-marriage ideology targetting males. Throw in too many bloke on bloke relationships for good measure. Mix all well with a dose of economic destruction and dislocation and who wants kids? Once you mess around with marriage and enduring male-female relationships that are validated throughout the economy and culture you invite in a whole range of reproduction rate-lowering disasters.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 5:40 pm

“Spanish Flu”, eh?
Spain remained Neutral in the Great War.
And Spain didn’t have a “Spanish Flu” outbreak either.
How about that?
Monty, your thoughts.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 5:42 pm

The end game is racial violence getting out of control just as is happening in the US.

We are forewarned. Are people smart enough not to take the bait?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 5:43 pm

‘They’?
Is this EMP-related? If so, what is their goal?

Nothing yet.

Patience, my pretties. Patience. All in good time

The nanowrigglers were angry that day my friend.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 28, 2022 5:43 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
December 28, 2022 at 5:22 pm
That cell to the north Alice has been there for days. They are having fun.

‘They’?

Is this EMP-related? If so, what is their goal?

Good question.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 5:45 pm

Its finally happened.
Mongageddon.

Ed-Mong has said something so devoid of logic hes made monty the voice of sanity.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 5:46 pm

The end game is racial violence getting out of control just as is happening in the US.
Black slaughter of Whites in America could be stopped anytime.
It’s just that there’s no political will to do so.
President CheetoHead McDump spent 4 years watching from the sidelines.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:48 pm

A “mosaic of ancient nations”

This mosaic bullshit most likely comes from a speech made by a former black NYC major. I think it’s partially lifted.

The “Gorgeous Mosaic”: Tribute to David N. Dinkins

But hang on- Dinkins may have lifted it from Gov Mario Cuomo.

Mario Cuomo, who coined the phrase “gorgeous mosaic” to describe the city’s diverse cultures,

🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 5:48 pm

johanna

what was needed was to find a ‘safe space’ for the murderer and the rest of the young thugs like him.

‘safe space’ is a complicated way to spell ‘jail’.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Ed-Mong has said something so devoid of logic hes made monty the voice of sanity.

This will be known only by those who read said mong’s text-vomit.
The rest of us remain happily unaware.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 28, 2022 5:49 pm

“The sentence of this court is that you will be taken from here to the place from whence you came and there be kept in close confinement until [date of execution], and upon that day that you be taken to the place of execution and there hanged by the neck until you are dead. And may God have mercy upon your soul.”

There are two serviceable sets of gallows in this country – one at Old Melbourne Gaol, and the other at Old Fremantle Gaol.

Dunno how you get on about recruiting a hangman, sorry hangperson. Situations vacant in the local paper?

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 5:51 pm

Albanese thinks A Voice will lower aboriginal incarceration rates, infant mortality, domestic violence, get Aboriginal kids in school and increase life expectancy.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 5:53 pm

My brother lives in a childless but committed heterosexual marriage. Are they heretics for not appropriating?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 5:53 pm

m0ntysays:
December 28, 2022 at 5:21 pm
But a tiny minority of us knew that the Spanish flu was actually caused by mass vaccination and had nothing to do with contagious disease.

A late but very strong contender for the stupidest thing said on the Cat all year. Well done Figures, you stand out from the crowd.

Sleep soundly, m0nty=fa, your crown as the Cat’s top wrongologist remains secure.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:55 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
December 28, 2022 at 5:48 pm

Ed-Mong has said something so devoid of logic hes made monty the voice of sanity.

This will be known only by those who read said mong’s text-vomit.
The rest of us remain happily unaware.

And here we are, cleaned the sheets, well sort of. Put nice little patterns on the toilet rolls in the motel rooms and now for some stoush trolling in the third person.

Driller, do you think the mosaic comment was plagiarized? 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 5:56 pm

when we join with our continent’s mosaic of ancient nations

What a load of verbal hyperbowl.

There were no ‘ancient nations’. There was no ‘mosaic’ of anything. This wasn’t the Roman or Persian empire ffs, to image ‘mosaics’ and ‘ancient nations’ in a speech high on iconography and low on any relevant associated content to back up these fine words.

There were constantly warring small hordes of people living hand to mouth off hunting and gathering a territorial range, who occasionally got together seasonally for celebrations in a slightly wider group. They killed off the megafauna and destroyed all vegetation other than fire-prone gums by fire-farming to flush out game and in some areas they created savannahs grasslands where game were easier to hunt. And that’s it for ‘nationhood’. We live with their fire heritage to this day. Australia would have had a vastly more diverse flora and fauna if they had never come here. So much for our ‘custodians’ of the land. So – indigenous peoples here acted like people everywhere, no better and likely no worse. Time for us all to join in together now and get over it, on all sides.

A little more realism and a lot more attention to the current ‘cultural entrapment’ that is deleterious to people with indigenous heritage would serve remote communities much more than any ‘Voice’ ever will.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 5:57 pm

bespoke says:
December 28, 2022 at 5:53 pm

My brother lives in a childless but committed heterosexual marriage. Are they heretics for not appropriating?

Appropriating what, Bespoke? You mean stealing a child? Of course not.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JCsays: December 28, 2022 at 5:55 pm

Shantaram tries some low-rent stoush trolling.

Must be tough for him now he cannot use his favourite word.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 5:58 pm

And Spain didn’t have a “Spanish Flu” outbreak either.

That’s because the rain stayed on the plain.

Mainly.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 5:58 pm

…reproducing?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 5:58 pm

Richafrd Cranium

Evidence points to Fort Detrick, the same place that the CovidVaxx was developed.

Your Google-fu has, again, failed you.

Detrick did not become a military installation until 1931, it thus seems an unlikely source for the Spanish Flu.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 6:00 pm

It’s got nothing at all to do with the reproduction rate of any given country.

Okay, sorry you alluded to it and I commented then. 🙂

That’s the sort of missing the point argument one might expect from an economist, lol.
That is a total furphy. Lots of things interfere with the reproduction rate, not just sexual relationships, although they do play a part. Try alcoholism and STD’s for a start. Then add career-mindedness in females and an anti-marriage ideology targetting males. Throw in too many bloke on bloke relationships for good measure. Mix all well with a dose of economic destruction and dislocation and who wants kids? Once you mess around with marriage and enduring male-female relationships that are validated throughout the economy and culture you invite in a whole range of reproduction rate-lowering disasters.

Okay, but how do a couple of flamers tying the knot adversely impact that?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 6:00 pm

“It will be when we join with our continent’s mosaic of ancient nations that our modern nation will find its greatest strength, achieve its fullest potential, and realise its truest self,” he told the crowd.

“We live in the world’s greatest nation, but an even greater Australia is so tantalisingly within our reach. Together, I know we can reach it.”

Just wow. FMD
Did the oratory rise a few octaves when he was reaching the crescendo of his remarks to a patently antihuman crowd?
Now what was the attractions that drove Bob Hawke to attend? Mad rooting and bulk grog?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 28, 2022 6:00 pm

Mario Cuomo, who coined the phrase “gorgeous mosaic” to describe the city’s diverse cultures,

A mosaic where every tile thinks it is the important one, the one that Carrie’s the beauty of the whole image, and thus deserves special recognition and to have the other tiles provide it. That, at least, is how Democrats talk to their mosaics.

johanna
johanna
December 28, 2022 6:01 pm

I am not seeing any attempt to grasp the reasons why women and their husbands/partners do not want to have more than a couple of children if any here or anywhere else.

Railing against abortion (a battle lost long ago) does not explain it.

It seems more like an Isaac Asimov novel, where there were plenty of material comforts and personal space, which became most highly regarded. But, it was a dead end.

Look at all those US House Hunters shows – apparently everyone having a bathroom is a human right. Of course, they don’t mention the Hispanic maids who will clean them.

Isaac was a wise fella, as well as a good storyteller. 🙂

rickw
rickw
December 28, 2022 6:02 pm

Latest MSM hysteria:

Drowning…

Just idiotic.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 6:03 pm

rosiesays:
December 28, 2022 at 5:51 pm
Albanese thinks A Voice will lower aboriginal incarceration rates, infant mortality, domestic violence, get Aboriginal kids in school and increase life expectancy.

No, he just sees it as a useful way to wedge his political opponents, inside and outside his party.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 6:04 pm

Shantaram tries some low-rent stoush trolling.

Must be tough for him now he cannot use his favourite word.

Naaa. just think it’s always there in spirit when you’re mentioned drills. Dover also kind of has his eye on stoush trolls like you, so be careful. We don’t want to see you getting thrown back onto Twitter and then dumped from here like a dirty old rag or in your case ..sheets.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 28, 2022 6:04 pm

Albanese thinks A Voice will lower aboriginal incarceration rates, infant mortality, domestic violence, get Aboriginal kids in school and increase life expectancy.

Yep. And that cow farts are destroying the planet.
Which is more believable than the Voice claptrap.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

johannasays: December 28, 2022 at 6:01 pm
I am not seeing any attempt to grasp the reasons why women and their husbands/partners do not want to have more than a couple of children if any here or anywhere else.

Laws on mounting baby capsules in cars may have done as much as anything else to limit families to two children.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JCsays: December 28, 2022 at 6:04 pm

Yep, Shantaram is both stoush trolling & projecting.
What a sack of faeces.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 6:08 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
December 28, 2022 at 6:06 pm

JCsays: December 28, 2022 at 6:04 pm

Yep, Shantaram is both stoush trolling & projecting.
What a sack of faeces.

How was xmas? Alone like every year?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 28, 2022 6:11 pm

Tomsays:

December 28, 2022 at 1:16 pm

A cheating, midget, houso, ranga flog.

Sancho, you got the order wrong. It’s midget houso ranga cheat. GreyRanga owns the patent.

Sorry.
Midget houso ranga cheat.
Midget houso ranga cheat.
Midget houso ranga cheat.
Midget houso ranga cheat.
I think I’ve got it.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 6:11 pm

Where’s the facetious font when you need it?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Shantaram, stick to online. If you tried the above rot in a pub, you’d be on your back gazing at the ceiling (until the swelling around your eyes closes over that is)

Stoush troll somewhere your stupid rot is welcome. Go, the flies are swarming around you, you sack of faeces.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
December 28, 2022 6:16 pm

“In a democracy we actually listen to the majority and what they think,” he said.

Says Mr 32%.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 6:22 pm

Drills, you have a unique way of admitting I’m right. Alone! ?

Stop the third person stoush trolling.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 28, 2022 6:24 pm

“It will be when we join with our continent’s mosaic of ancient nations that our modern nation will find its greatest strength, achieve its fullest potential, and realise its truest self,” he told the crowd.

Soaring oratory from a shite retail politician, who is deliberately obscuring the scope and intent of what Australians are actually being asked to vote for.

Quite appropriate that he’s up on his hind legs at Woodford – a festival woke enough to choke a brown dog.

(People of a normal sensitivity follow the link at their own risk. No responsibility is taken for damaged phones or computer equipment.)

Bill P
Bill P
December 28, 2022 6:25 pm

johannah

I arrived in Melbourne in January 1973, to live for a year.

Interesting. I started work in Drummond St in April 1973.
Distractions you will no doubt know, just to name a few:
John Curtain
Lemon Tree
Weathercock

Bill P
Bill P
December 28, 2022 6:26 pm

Curtin

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 6:27 pm

This ‘flu swept through whole populations, in remote areas like Inuit Canada as well as through industrial urban slums. Highly infectious, it felled young people in particular who had huge immune-responding cytokine storms, not necessarily only the immune-compromised, although they could cop it too, and did it in a day or less at times

You’ve lifted this from somewhere but haven’t acknowledged them.

Don’t accuse me of plagiarism, Ed. Those are my own words, compounded from a good general knowledge of what happened in 1920-21. I have no need to plagiarise words or sentences, though I doubt if in any serious published work I would have descended to the colloquial as I have by using the word ‘cop’, which I deemed suitable only for this august blogue, along with the general construction of that sentence ending. In publication, I would do better, lol.

You should apologise to me for such a ludicrous accusation, by which I would declare myself to be highly offended had it come from anyone more intellectually serious than you, Ed Case. I am perfectly competent at writing good publishable English sentences myself. As I’ve suggested, a detailed account of what is often misnomered as ‘Spanish’ Influenza is available in Barry’s book on the subject (see my reference above) if you wish to know more detail about the well-known issues I’ve summarised for readers here from my general knowledge and MPH qualification.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 6:27 pm

So – indigenous peoples here acted like people everywhere, no better and likely no worse.

Carved in stone on Aires rock 50′ high.

This elevating stone age tribals to magical pixie people is almost at mental illness levels.

Humanity passed through the age of stone pretty well everywhere else on earth, except here.
A “nation” 2 and a half times the size of India, or 3/4 quarters the size of China which gave absolutely nothing to the wider world.

Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:28 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:29 pm
Cassie of Sydney
December 28, 2022 6:31 pm

Just on SSM, I was tepid about it for a long time. I suppose I adopted a libertarian approach to it, thinking for quite a few years, what harm would it do. If two gay men or two lesbians want to tie the knot, so what, who am I to interfere. However, in about 2014/2015 I began to turn away from just being tepid about it to being opposed to it. Why? Well, there were several reasons, I suppose the catalyst was that those pushing SSM preached and screeched a lot about “love” yet I didn’t see much love being propagated by them, in fact all I saw was a lot of “hate” and “vitriol”, directed primarily against Christians. Speaking of vitriol against Christians, who could forget the utterly appalling way Margaret Court was treated on The Project. And the fact that Cardinal Pell was resolutely opposed to SSM enraged the activists and I believe added fuel to their campaign to “get him”. Anyone who opposed SSM was considered fair game. My opposition stiffened, and I realised that the campaign was part of a sinister and toxic cultural shift, it wasn’t about two individuals wanting to “get married”. In 2017 I voted NO and I would vote NO again tomorrow. “SSM” was a Trojan horse, designed to allow in much more serious and sinister cultural changes and this is evidenced by what we are seeing now with the whole “trans” debate, the sexualisation of children, the “Safe Schools” gunk and ten year old children being taught about the joys of anal sex.

Oh and I used to find it amusing when activists such as Magnum Szubanksi would screech about SSM marriage being about “love”. Whilst love in a marriage is nice, traditional marriage in ALL cultures was never about “love”, it was about procreation, tribe, clan, religion, economics, social standing and so on. If love ensued, then great, but love was the least important aspect of marriage. Most of our great-grandparents, when they married, in all likelihood didn’t love each other. Love came later, if at all.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 6:31 pm

Marriage just is a that relationship between a man and a woman that brings forth children

This introduces a hierarchy into the commitment.

Btw: ancient Greeks aren’t known for monogamous hetro relationships.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 6:33 pm

As it reminded him of an allergic reaction, he treated his patients with antihistamines and aspirin, and, I recall, steroids. He did not lose a patient. Scottish doctor Dr. Malcolm Kendrick also observed patients sometimes dying suddenly when they had shown very mild symptoms & wasn’t sure why this was so. I have always thought that the footage of Chinese dying suddenly in the street, which has been so derided as false by the West, may have been the result of this phenomenon.

Vicki, the Chinese didn’t have any vaccines at the time the “dying suddenly in the streets” was filmed. Even later they used their own vaccines. Their lies are still lies.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 6:38 pm

Dr Faustus.

Thats … amazing.
Disappointed theres no genuine Cherokee hair tampons for sale though.

Also the sound of all the “artistes” chowing down on government choad would drown out everything else.
I cant seem to find how much largesse was distributed, but heres the link to the badged sponsors.
https://woodfordfolkfestival.com/the-festival/sponsors/

Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:38 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:39 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:41 pm
Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 6:42 pm

johanna says:
December 28, 2022 at 3:47 pm
TheirABC has been warning of Thermageddon as the first wave of normal summer weather comes through the south east of the continent.

We’ve had a few days in the low thirties – hasn’t even hit 35C. The nights have have been quite cool, mostly down in the low teens. A doddle compared to many previous summers.

Johanna, we will get the high temperatures but in late January and February. These will be the direct opposite of the very low temperatures we had in July and August. The cause is not anything we do or did but the shift in Earth’s axis.

If we still had real scientists or weather specialists they would have looked at the last few years of high summers and extraordinarily cold winters and worked out that the axis has tilted slightly. It’s the tilt that gives us the seasons and the greater the tilt the greater the disparity between winter and summer.

I learned this in high school in the early 1970s but apparently this is no longer taught as it may contradict the “climate change” misinformation and disinformation.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 6:43 pm

Found a news article on how much the various squandermonkies are ‘investing’ in the festival of the bush tomato.
https://www.moretondaily.com.au/news/grants-boost-for-woodford-folk-festival
Guaranteeing this year’s event will be better than ever is the completion of more than $5 million of investment in facilities upgrades from the State Government and Council

Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 6:45 pm

This one should start the hares running. It is not about the Covid vax.

Do vaccines cause autism? It sure looks like it to me.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 6:45 pm

Okay, but how do a couple of flamers tying the knot adversely impact that?

Come on, JC, it’s just adding more bloke on bloke stuff to the mix. It’s just one more nail in the coffin of one man and one woman as mum and dad for life to their offspring. Keating wanted them to stick to the two men and a cocker spanial meme, and if they did I’d have no real argument with them going ‘love is love’ with the exchange of rings (umm let me rephrases that), er, kisses, er, nope …

I had a relationship with a gay man during the interregnum and I am sympathetic and sensitive to the issues he had that made him declare himself to bat occasionally for the other side (even though he asked me to marry him and have children). The cultural pressures on him at that time were such that this essentially heterosexually-inclined and rather scrumptious guy had to go down the full ‘I’m gay’ road (can’t say route due to ‘phrasing’). If he’s happy now, I’m pleased for him. I hear news of him every now and then still. Doesn’t mean I agree with gay men raising children unless there are no other options for the child and nor do I diss all gay men in saying this. Many are very decent people. Some aren’t though, still held in thrall to an adolescent male fetish mentality.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 6:45 pm

As I’ve suggested, a detailed account of what is often misnomered as ‘Spanish’ Influenza is available in Barry’s book on the subject (see my reference above) if you wish to know more detail about the well-known issues I’ve summarised for readers here from my general knowledge and MPH qualification.
Huh?
That’s gobbledegook.
Plus it puts you on the same page as Monty.
Here’s a few facts:
U.S. Biowarfare Labs began creating a vaccine to treat multiple diseases that Troops returning from Europe might be carrying.
Civilians at the Entry Points were also Vaccinated, with particular emphasis on Maternity Wards and State Hospitals.
Since Old Peoples Homes weren’t a thing in 1918, old people didn’t get the vax and were underrepresented in the Death Toll.
No one in Spain died of it at all.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 6:47 pm

Some more to my previous comment, I checked with my grandchildren if they were taught in school* how climate and seasons worked and they said no. I wasted no time in explaining how it all worked.

*All my grandchildren attended/are attending the same high school. It is possible that the real climate science is still taught in other schools.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 6:47 pm

Railing against abortion (a battle lost long ago) does not explain it.

Indeed, At least the US prolifers set up clinics to give alternative. The Aus side are content with hash tagging out rage.

johanna
johanna
December 28, 2022 6:47 pm

Bill P says:
December 28, 2022 at 6:25 pm

johannah

I arrived in Melbourne in January 1973, to live for a year.

Interesting. I started work in Drummond St in April 1973.
Distractions you will no doubt know, just to name a few:
John Curtain
Lemon Tree
Weathercock

The Lemon Tree hotel, a pub with the only good feature being its name.

When I was there, Lygon Street featured little upstairs clubs where Grik men and Italians gambled, while downstairs they drank coffee and argued about politics and football.

Also some great charity shops. I got my beautiful lambswool white with black fringing scarf there for 50c. Alas, destroyed in the Great Moth Attack in Sydney much later.

I suppose a very rich person now lives where I spewed my guts out on the stairs via Southern Comfort in 1973.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 28, 2022 6:49 pm

FFS its a registered “charity”…

https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/charities/a4b5377e-38af-e811-a963-000d3ad244fd/documents/460f0e4b-50c8-e811-a964-000d3ad24077

The fund has aided in the creation of the Woodford Folk Festival (WFF) and The Planting. WFF presented 2,169 artists (over 400 acts) over 2,169 concerts and presentations.

Full time employees: 25
Part time employees: 3
Casual employees: 0
Full-time equivalent staff (FTE): 27
Estimated number of volunteers: 3090

Expenses
Employee expenses $3,360,756.00

Some very well remunerated “charity” employees there
3.3 million divided by 27 FTE employees is a cool $122, 000 each.
.
Plus another 10,000,000 in “All other expenses”.

m0nty
m0nty
December 28, 2022 6:50 pm

Yes, the Spanish Flu was misnamed, because someone wanted to blame the Spaniards for something that had little to do with them.

No, the Spanish Flu was not a result of vaccinations. There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 6:52 pm

Between whom?

Childless couples.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 6:53 pm

No, the Spanish Flu was not a result of vaccinations.
Wrong.
There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.
Strawman.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 6:56 pm

No, the Spanish Flu was not a result of vaccinations. There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.

You’ve just tied yourself in knots there.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 6:56 pm

Good on Sweden. Here is their recent medical advice on ‘transgendering’ children:

The Swedes also note the explosion in cases and the “detransition” phenomenon:

Several factors have pointed towards increased caution in offering hormonal and surgical treatment: insufficient scientific evidence, a yet-to-be-explained increase in the number of people being diagnosed, especially 13–17 years old and with registered sex female at birth, less uniform experience-based knowledge among participating experts than in 2015, and the documented prevalence of detransition.

This recommendation makes clear that, despite the caterwauling of gender-ideology warriors, there is no general scientific agreement — much less certainty — on how to best care for children with gender dysphoria, nor is there currently the depth of knowledge or the kind of systematically collected evidence required to assume that certainty. The recent spike in cases warrants an investigation as it may indicate a social contagion, akin to how youth suicide can sometimes proliferate.

Arky
December 28, 2022 6:58 pm

There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.
..
Yeah, nah:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862332/

Vicki
Vicki
December 28, 2022 6:58 pm

Vicki, the Chinese didn’t have any vaccines at the time the “dying suddenly in the streets” was filmed.

Crossie, I think you have misunderstood. I am not suggesting that those who “died in the street” died as a result of the vaccine. No – what I am suggesting is that they died as a result of the ability of the Covid spike protein to cause a catastrophic inflammatory process in vascular tissue in the heart. This sudden collapse that Dr Kendrick was astonished with could well be the “8th day” occurrence that Dr. Chetty noticed.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 7:00 pm

I arrived in Melbourne in January 1973, to live for a year.

Johanna, in 1974 I worked with a Johanna in Sydney CBD and thought it may have been you but if you were in Melbourne at the time then I was obviously wrong.

Arky
December 28, 2022 7:01 pm

The fate of Pfeiffer’s bacillus as the probable cause of influenza is reflected in the use of vaccines in the United States during the pandemic of 1918–1919. By 1918, the successful use of some vaccines, especially those against rabies, typhoid fever, and diphtheria, as well as the use of diphtheria anti-toxin, had raised high expectations for a vaccine against influenza.12 Those who already had a vaccine in hand were quick off the mark to promote their vaccines as sure preventives or cures for influenza. Drug manufacturers aggressively promoted their stock vaccines for colds, grippe, and flu. These vaccines were of undisclosed composition. As public anxiety and demand swelled, there were complaints of price gouging and kickbacks.13 (p. 114–6) Preexisting vaccines of undisclosed composition were also endorsed by physicians such as M.J. Exner, who actively promoted in newspaper interviews and testimonials the vaccine developed some six years earlier by his colleague, Ellis Bonime.14,15 Bonime was a late champion of the tuberculin treatment of tuberculosis and an adherent of the opsonin theory of immune response and of the therapeutic use of vaccines.16 His vaccine was claimed to prevent pneumonia, influenza, and blood poisoning. Exner’s boosterism paid some dividends. At least one municipality, Far Rockaway, New York, announced that it would provide Bonime’s vaccine to all its citizens.17

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 7:02 pm

Vicki says:
December 28, 2022 at 6:58 pm
Vicki, the Chinese didn’t have any vaccines at the time the “dying suddenly in the streets” was filmed.

Crossie, I think you have misunderstood. I am not suggesting that those who “died in the street” died as a result of the vaccine. No – what I am suggesting is that they died as a result of the ability of the Covid spike protein

Vicki my apologies, you are right.

Indolent
Indolent
December 28, 2022 7:04 pm

Aseem Malhorta wants the grip of the nanny state to tighten and regulate ‘unhealthy food’ like tobacco.

Yes, that was the one part of his Tucker interview which really got my goat. However that is a matter of opinion, to which he is entitled, which doesn’t negate his professional, evidence based view on the mRNA shots.

As regards the discussion on Dr. Malone, one point which was not raised is that the mRNA delivery process he was involved in designing was modified for the Covid shots by the insertion of a synthetic molecule which is the why it doesn’t dissipate within minutes as mRNA normally would but causes it to linger for what is still an unknown period, measured in months.

Rabz
December 28, 2022 7:09 pm

Chapter heading from the cheating houso ranga’s new book:-
“The Day I Nearly Died at the G”.

Fox had a particularly vomit inducing interview with the aforementioned imbecile this evening after stumps. Couldn’t get into the living room quickly enough to hit the off button.

Thank goodness there were no sledgehammers lying around.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 7:09 pm

No, the Spanish Flu was not a result of vaccinations. There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.

Yes. And even that was using a bacterium for a pneumonia misnamed as Bacillus influenzae, today called Hemophilus influenzae, a bacteria not a virus. It did not protect against influenza but may have given some minimal protection against pneumonia. An influenza virus was not isolated until 1933, producing early vaccines which were used in the second world war. A lot of work then went into identifying strains and variants of strains of influenza and developing ongoing vaccination programs for these, from about 1957 onwards.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 7:10 pm

There was not a vax program for influenza until a decade after the Spanish Flu epidemic.
It wouldn’t matter one way or the other.
A Mass Vaccination Program caused what was known as the “Spanish Flu”.

The idea that Vaccination could prevent Influenza was a loony idea then, it’s a loony idea now, since Influenza isn’t a contagious disease.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 28, 2022 7:14 pm

A “nation” 2 and a half times the size of India, or 3/4 quarters the size of China which gave absolutely nothing to the wider world.

Is that cos for 40-60-80,000 million years they were just a bunch of racists?

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 7:16 pm

Robert Sewell says:December 28, 2022 at 5:25 pm
ZK2A: All I see the voice as being is a vehicle for the activists and an instrument of division. It will settle nothing – the next demand will be for a treaty, then “compensation” and “reparations.”

It will become an excuse for violence from the Left, because we are racists.
The end game is racial violence getting out of control just as is happening in the US.
Then they will have the opportunity to confiscate all the weapons.

Robert I wouldn’t worry on that score, there are too many new arrivals who are not into reparations of any kind to a section of the population that are smaller than they are.

As for the violence, that also will only happen in regional centres where the Aboriginals comprise significant numbers and no new arrivals. The outcome may be what the activists are not imagining, those regional towns will be losing all other populations to capital cities.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 7:22 pm

Steak & rise.

Life is good.

Roger
Roger
December 28, 2022 7:23 pm

This introduces a hierarchy into the commitment.

Depends on how you define hierarchy, bespoke.

Arky
December 28, 2022 7:24 pm

There was some crazy stuff going on in 1918:

the crisis atmosphere of the pandemic, the Pittsburgh vaccine developers isolated their strains, prepared the vaccine, tested it for toxicity in some laboratory animals and in two humans, and turned it over to the Red Cross for use in humans—all in one week.

..
Mostly with strep and other stuff they found in throats and chests of corpses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 7:30 pm

Cassie

Whilst love in a marriage is nice, traditional marriage in ALL cultures was never about “love”, it was about procreation, tribe, clan, religion, economics, social standing and so on. If love ensued, then great, but love was the least important aspect of marriage. Most of our great-grandparents, when they married, in all likelihood didn’t love each other. Love came later, if at all.

One of the songs in Fiddler on the Roof summarised the reality of this situation very well.

“After 25 years, it’s nice to know.”

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 7:34 pm

In the Spanish Flu they did not have lockdowns or face masks. How so in 2001/2002/ and thereafter?

Over to you Sheeple……………………..

sfw
sfw
December 28, 2022 7:40 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha, dad was a copper and for a while was in the vicpol Transport Branch, they used the Old Melbourne Gaol as a workshop and depot up to the early 70’s. As kids Dad would often take us in there while he did whatever Dads do. The old gaol was essentially untouched after WW2 when it was last used. we would go into the cells and play hide and seek. The gallows was untouched as was the condemned cell, we would look at them but never played in them. Most of the cells were used as storage and were full of paperwork.

I was dragged there on New years Eve 1999, the first time since I was a kid, there was a NYE party on. Personally I was uncomfortable, too many ghosts and memories of youth. I can’t understand how people want to live at the old Pentridge Prison, I went there more than a few times for work and it was a sad miserable place, why would anyone want to live among the ghosts and the misery?

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 7:41 pm

Roger

If you put having kids as part of the commitment then its implied. This demishes those that can’t or chooses not too.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 28, 2022 7:42 pm

Richard Cranium

U.S. Biowarfare Labs began creating a vaccine to treat multiple diseases that Troops returning from Europe might be carrying.

Prove the existence of such labs in 1918. And don’t babble on about “Fort Detrick”. Detrick did not become a military installation until 1931 and did not get into BW research until 1943.

It seems that Google is no longer your friend, so try Wikipedia instead.

Or you could keep babbling on, repeating the same errors, and too stupid to know.

rosie
rosie
December 28, 2022 7:43 pm

I’m now even more convinced people should take all claims made by Dr Shankara Chetty very seriously.
intention is to kill billions without anyone noticing.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 7:43 pm

Fox had a particularly vomit inducing interview with the aforementioned imbecile this evening after stumps. Couldn’t get into the living room quickly enough to hit the off button.

No less than 5 stories in the dead tree version of the Hun. Headlines:

Miracle Of Melbourne (back page)
Warner Wins Biggest Fight (Russell Gould)
Just keep on batting, was advice from Smiffy (typo, Gould)
A street brawler armed with tons of self belief (Daniel Cherney)
Most underrated Aussie cricketer ever feels the love. (Crash Craddock)

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 7:49 pm

Craddock compared the innings to that of Dean Jones in Madras.
Except Jones nearly carked it, lost 8 kilos(?) and went to hospital

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 7:49 pm

Most of our great-grandparents, when they married, in all likelihood didn’t love each other. Love came later, if at all.

Chuckle! Return to trading women like cattle?

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 28, 2022 7:50 pm

https://www.thecollegefix.com/almost-40-percent-of-students-identify-as-lgbtq-at-liberal-arts-colleges-survey/

There’s a high school in inner Melbourne which apparently has similar numbers of kids identifying as against their genitals. Woke parents are trying to push that number higher. Non woke parents are biting the bullet and sending kids elsewhere.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 28, 2022 7:51 pm

Alan Border to Jones:
Jones wanted to retire ill but Border warned him: “At 170 I said ‘if you can’t keep going I’ll get a Queenslander on’,” referring to Greg Ritchie, next in and a native of the state, like his captain.

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 7:52 pm

Cassie

Have you done your duty for the tribe?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 7:54 pm

No – what I am suggesting is that they died as a result of the ability of the Covid spike protein

Vicki my apologies, you are right.

Yes, I think Vicki is right too re video clips of those early days of the pandemic in China. What is known as a cytokine storm. appeared to be part of the world’s first Covid attack. That is why there was so much uncertainty and panic about Covid infection at that time. Attention was always on a return of a similar but new respiratory virus to the 1920 influenza, where people had died suddenly, sometimes with massive bleeds from the lung into tissues with explosive blood upon coughing. There was also the phenomenon of seeming to get well but after a week keeling over with a vicious relapse.

As for Ed Case, what a dumbo. Knows nothing, most egregiously accuses me of plagiarism, and falls flat on his face when he displays the insufficiency and clownishness of his own information.

Of course C19th and early C20th ‘influenza’ vaccines caused problems. They were mostly snake oil of various origins, a panic reaction, or even if science-based they were inexpert and targeted the wrong pathogen, until at least the 1930’s. Failed treatments are part of the history of medicine – so much so that there’s a term for doctor caused illness – iatrogenesis. Don’t however throw the vaxxed baby out with the badvaxx bathwater. Vaccination does save lives. Figures and Ed are noted fools.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 7:55 pm

Adam and Eve said “Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you anymore. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us”.

And God said “I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves”.

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve. And it was a good animal and God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.

And Adam said “Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal”.

And God said “I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG”.

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.

And they were comforted.
And God was pleased.
And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said “Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well”.

And God said “I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration”.

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat’s eyes, they were reminded that they were not the Supreme Beings.

And Adam and Eve learned humility.
And they were greatly improved.
And God was pleased.
And Dog was happy.

And the Cat? The Cat didn’t give a shit one way or the other.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 28, 2022 7:56 pm

Off now for dinner – duck legs au package de Woollies.

Then we will settle down to watch the new series of Fauda – on Netflix.
Episode One was good, they do it so well.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 7:57 pm

To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.

– Nicolaus Copernicus

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 8:04 pm

The ‘religious’ v registry/ secular distinction makes no difference here. Marriage just is a that relationship between a man and a woman that brings forth children, which is why there were laws re marriage in Greek and Roman societies, and that these carried over in European societies as well. It clearly is re-purposing marriage because sans the ability to produce children, marriage as an institution becomes something fundamentally different to marriage before this redefinition.

Marriage is one of a couple of ways to raise children. It’s not the only one. Please, in Greek and Roman society a woman would be killed if she was found to be cheating on the husband. We’ve certainly “re-purposed” marriage to avoid murder inside a marriage.
On a similar score, marriage was “repurposed” the moment it became no-fault divorce in the most recent times. The entanglement of marriage over the ages has most certainly “re-purposed”, especially when the state took over from the religious institutions – especially in Christian countries.

I’ve never said anything about ‘impacting me personally’ permitting me to have an opinion on the institution of marriage, or any other institution.

Of course you have, in not so many words, when you inflict the word “society” into the discussion.

How could you oppose polymarriage, or incestuous marriage, or marriage between a human being and a humanoid, and so on, if nothing about marriage itself is material, and the only thing that is is whether the alteration effects me personally? What bar could this premise raise against the above? None at all.

Nothing really prevents polymarriage these days. There may be laws against polymarriage, but they certainly aren’t enforced. Also, nothing really prevents incestuous marriage or co-habituation.

So what you’re arguing here is not “why care?’ but that there were several changes to the institution of marriage before the redefinition above that were significant so why care now about this one? Because it is as if not more significant a change those before. Because it formalizes the trends and amplifies the errors that were denied and promoted respectively by those peddling the previous changes. Because we can only oppose those changes that are currently before us.

Oh please, the traditional concept of marriage was destroyed- literally destroyed- by no fault divorce and family law being a witch’s coven of anti-male thinking.

People don’t adopt as couples. Adoption works through, or at least did to begin with, through a single person that was to be the adoptive parent. Either way, the fact that gays could adopt prior to the redefinition of marriage only goes to show that these and other changes, as mentioned above, impact the institution of marriage, not that they are irrelevant.

Of course couples can adopt as couples. In fact, it would still be more difficult to adopt as a single parent in relative terms.

Oh, you’re veering towards the slippery slope. It doesn’t exist. Things move to the point where it simply stops and isn’t allowed to go on.

MatrixTransform
December 28, 2022 8:05 pm

3.3 million divided by 27 FTE employees is a cool $122, 000 each.

never give money to charities

ever

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 28, 2022 8:06 pm

Then we will settle down to watch the new series of Fauda – on Netflix.
Episode One was good, they do it so well.

Keep paying for that Netflix and they will keep making the moneeeeeeeeeeeey

Zipster
Zipster
December 28, 2022 8:06 pm
Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 8:07 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
December 28, 2022 at 7:57 pm
To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge.

– Nicolaus Copernicus

Johnny, when Donald Rumsfeld rephrased it for journalists they ridiculed him and proved to the world their ignorance. From then on it went downhill for the media.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 8:10 pm

MatrixTransform says:
December 28, 2022 at 8:05 pm
3.3 million divided by 27 FTE employees is a cool $122, 000 each.
never give money to charities

ever

MT, it depends on the charity.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 28, 2022 8:10 pm

Almost 40 percent of students identify as LGBTQ at liberal arts colleges: survey

Thank you ball boys, thank you umpires, this civilization is over.
We are completely rooted.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 28, 2022 8:12 pm

The idea that Vaccination could prevent Influenza was a loony idea then, it’s a loony idea now, since Influenza isn’t a contagious disease.

Thanks for that, Figures.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 8:13 pm

Marriage is one of a couple of ways to raise children. It’s not the only one. Please, in Greek and Roman society a woman would be killed if she was found to be cheating on the husband.

JC, obviously orphanages are the way to go.

By the way, what used to happen to cheating husbands?

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 8:15 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
December 28, 2022 at 7:56 pm
Off now for dinner – duck legs au package de Woollies.

I found they’re not bad as long as you scrape off all the skin.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 8:16 pm

My Great Uncle Otto Case, the noted mutineer, stayed on in England until the vaccination hysteria had died down before he took the ship back home.

I’d like to see research done on the survival rates of the Diggers who were repatriated in December 1918 and January 1919 at the height of the VaxMadness.
Assuming all had the Vax, it couldn’t be pleasant reading.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 8:16 pm

By the way, what used to happen to cheating husbands?

Nothing of course. There was no reason. 🙂

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 8:17 pm

never give money to charities

Small churches are the safe bet.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 8:18 pm

By the way, what used to happen to cheating husbands?
The wronged husband/father shot him.
It was an admirable Society.

JC
JC
December 28, 2022 8:21 pm

The wronged husband/father shot him.
It was an admirable Society.

Eddles, as a self confessed slut addict (“I’m addicted to sluts”) you really shouldn’t be calling such a society as being admirable.

Vicki
Vicki
December 28, 2022 8:21 pm

Off now for dinner – duck legs au package de Woollies.

Lizzie, duck is my all time favourite dish – cooked in pretty much any way. But I guess Peking Duck a special fave. When we are in Sydney we drive to Chatswood to queue up in Victoria Avenue for a duck, pancakes and plum sauce to take home for lunch. Or we save it for dinner and have a bowl of Pho at the little restaurant next door to the Peking Duck place.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 28, 2022 8:27 pm

Eddles, as a self confessed slut addict (“I’m addicted to sluts”) you really shouldn’t be calling such a society as being admirable.

Ed’s Tip of the Day:
avoid married sluts.

Rabz
December 28, 2022 8:28 pm

Except Jones nearly carked it, lost 8 kilos(?) and went to hospital

And at one point during his innings emptied the contents of his stomach next to one of the batting creases.

The cheating houso midget ranga southbore’s* behaviour yesterday was preposterous embarrassing narcissism personified. Instead of congratulating him, his team mates should have [that’s enough of that, Rabz – Dover].

AKA “cackhanders” – as noted above, ‘itler was one.

Crossie
Crossie
December 28, 2022 8:30 pm

Just roasted duck until the skin is crispy is the best. I don’t like any sauce on it to dilute the flavour. The duck is usually put on a roasting rack so I can collect the fat which is later used to roast potatoes. That reminds me …

bespoke
bespoke
December 28, 2022 8:33 pm

Rubbish!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 28, 2022 8:34 pm

I cook pretty well that we rarely go to restaurants. Can’t cook duck or roasts. Love duck. Roasts not so much.

Rabz
December 28, 2022 8:36 pm

Albansleazy has faced a barrage of yells and screams from anti oil and gas protesters at the Woodford Folk Festival

He will of course, remain too stupid to realise there is no satisfying such idiotic, utterly insane zealots.

Although he will succumb to their incessant infuriating screeching. At everyone else’s expense.

Ah, good ol’ Mr 32%.

What’s the saying? Oh, that’s right, “this will not end well”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 28, 2022 8:42 pm

Rabz the word is ‘southpaw’. I’m 2 of those things and I like painting, I must be hitler.

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