Open Thread – Tues 17 Jan 2023


The Strawberry Thieves pattern, William Morris, 1883


2,347 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 17 Jan 2023”

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  1. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    ha ha
    the Russian finished the Seppo

    omg, and the white flag didn’t even make him surrender

    the whole world should posture harder

    clearly unacceptable mUnty … what should they do next?

  2. calli Avatar
    calli

    Davros Dingbats

    Tee hee. Daleks the lot of them.

  3. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Is she hot?

    Very. Spent most of Thursday chatting to her about various matters (apart from the WEF).

    She’s 38 and looks about 28. Her English is impeccable with just the slightest accent (as opposed to my Slovakian, which is non existent). A classic quote:

    “I never watch or listen to the news – it’s too depressing”

  4. JC Avatar

    clearly unacceptable mUnty … what should they do next?

    Dunno, maybe cut his tits off? What’s your think here, Trans?

  5. m0nty Avatar
    m0nty

    Healthy 18-40 year olds

    … are not even a majority of the population. Try again.

  6. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Dunno, maybe cut his tits off?

    oh no

    sorry punters

    mUnty must have escalated the situation and gone higher up.

    … now we have to deal with the Shit-Talker-In-Chief

  7. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    you’re another one JC

    you’re so nice and simpering in real-life

    mind how you go

    you shit-talker

  8. JC Avatar

    I’m very nice to people who are nice, dickface. That changes when they’re not nice to me, you “simpering” drunk. I also don’t like blowhards. Here’s one example:

    there are some forums where your’e like a god and people hang on yr every word.
    parts of my little world are like that
    I’m the old man
    the oracle
    the bloke that makes people shit themselves when I enter the room

    What’s your thinking here, Trans? Blowhard much?

  9. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    She’s 38 and looks about 28.

    The Australian sun isn’t too kind to the ladies (or the blokes for that matter). Takes a bit of adjustment in the UK and Europe. Particularly when you had 3 generations out clubbing in Manchester. 10 pints of Guinness still couldn’t help deal with that.

  10. dover0beach Avatar

    … are not even a majority of the population. Try again.

    I didn’t imply they were a majority of the population. They were mentioned because they were the majority of the pool of 18 year olds and above not yet double vaxxed, and importantly, they had nothing to worry about from COVID. So, again, the idea they would be left to the wolves without the vax mandate is hysterical nonsense.

  11. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    the bloke that makes people shit themselves when I enter the room

    hope to meet you again in real life soon JC

    I’d really like to shake your hand

  12. JC Avatar

    Dover

    I’m just thinking out loud here. This was the point I was trying to get to earlier. How do you think things would have worked out without a state mandate? I don’t know the answer other than having another government intervention in the workplace. The state could have instituted a regulation preventing employees from taking action over COVID. However, this would be as unrealistic as a fat boy suddenly becoming thin.
    What do you think would have occurred in Australia without mandates? I’ll tell you what I think. There would have been a complete shitshow of lawsuits against employers on both sides. Let’s say a firm took the view that all employees needed to be vaccinated. Those that weren’t would have sued because their human rights were violated. Those who did not demand vaccination would have been in big trouble if they were caught blaming it on an unsafe workplace.This is Australia this century, as little makes sense. In this case, either way, employers would have their rear ends handed to them. The only way things would work is if employees are employees at will.

  13. JC Avatar

    hope to meet you again in real life soon JC

    I’d really like to shake your hand

    The god oracle making threats, hey. Piss off you useless drunkard.

  14. JC Avatar

    Whoops, should read.
    Those who did not demand vaccination would have been in big trouble if someone caught covid blaming it on an unsafe workplace.

  15. JC Avatar

    Here’s Thought Leader making threats too. Wow.

    This is the individual who goes to a the Good Doc’s home, eats his meals, drink his drink , asks to make videos, takes his entire family to his the docs home and then indirectly refers to the good Doc as a “idiot libertarian”. The Good Doc ran for the LDP as the Thought leader is aware. FMD. Class. 100 % class.

  16. JC Avatar

    Arky says:
    January 21, 2023 at 12:06 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsM_VmN6ytk

    Perhaps in a court house over various stalking incidents.

  17. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    JC says:
    January 21, 2023 at 12:11 am
    Here’s Thought Leader making threats too. Wow

    ..
    I’m actually going to reply to you this once.
    Nothing I post is directed at you.
    I don’t read your comments generally. The ones directed at me are too full of vitriol to tolerate. I don’t want that stuff in my head.
    I have NO ill will towards you despite your best efforts to make it so.
    I think fondly of the great conversations we used to have and sad that you have gone this way.
    I genuinely wish you all the best and every success. Always. Yes, MTs post made me think of that old song.
    Not directed at you.
    Nothing I write here or anywhere is at all ever, about you.
    Please leave me out of it. I am not interested.

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  18. JC Avatar

    I don’t believe anything you say because you’re an untrustworthy individual. The Doc one being one example of what an untrustworthy person you are. Many times you’ve posted comments to me or about me (indirectly). You have stalked me in the ways we both know, with the example of the voice mail incident being one.

  19. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    I have no idea why you dislike and distrust me.
    I don’t know what you are on about.
    I think you worked yourself up into a fear over something I have no idea about early on, and it’s spiralled from there.
    I have no inside information about you that I could imagine anyone else would find interesting or negative.
    I think the most negative things about you are on display in your comments to people here.
    I have repeatedly stood up for you. As late as last year suggesting that a mutual friend seek out your advice.
    If you have something against me you should man up and broach the actual original thing.
    I don’t hold grudges, it this over a year long and personal attack has sure strained that philosophy.

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  20. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    It’s not just Rugby League with behavioural problems:
    1. Rugby union star Kurtley Beale has been charged over an alleged sexual assault of a woman in a toilet in Sydney’s eastern suburbs last year. Refused bail.
    2. Australian Olympian Peter Bol has been provisionally suspended after failing an out-of-competition drug test. Bol, who finished fourth in the 800 metres at the Tokyo Olympics, returned a positive result for the banned substance EPO.

    Innocent until proven guilty in both cases.

  21. JC Avatar

    Oh, for lord’s sake! You posted comments of a private nature about me that could only have been gleaned in a private setting. You did it on two different occasions! You took sides over an issue that had zero to do with you. Even though you deny it, you’re continually making indirect comments directed against mine. You laughed when I blocked your number by leaving a voicemail. It’s not the first time you’ve menaced others with threats. To be honest, I don’t think those two links you left were for Transition.You’re also blind to the negativity of others. I did not strike up a conversation with Trans. He began to troll me, which he does every single time. As for vitriol, I made what would be reasonably considered a fair assessment of your comments to Monster. You cannot justify your opposition to lockdowns and COVID mandates when you’ve supported Duarte’s summary executions and hardcore protectionism. It then just becomes a case of weighing the COVID mandates and laws you prefer against those that you don’t. There is no vitriol there—just an example of highlighting inconsistencies.

  22. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    You took sides over an issue that had zero to do with you.
    ..

    I don’t know what you are referring to, but does this mean you expect friends to suppress their real opinions and you call this “honesty”?
    I think you just provided a shit list that are not at all the heart of the original issue.
    What is the original thing?
    Seriously, what the FK is this all about?

  23. JC Avatar

    “Suppressing  true opinions”? such as not participating in a non-topical argument that had nothing to do with you. This was the time you were carousing around like you owned the joint. But why focus on this? Why don’t you discuss the other matter dealing with your discussion with Monster? Why is it so vitriolic to raise glaring inconsistencies?

  24. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Why don’t you discuss the other matter dealing with your discussion with Monster?

    ..
    Because it’s just the latest in a long line of you attempting to draw me into a discussion with you so I’m forced to endure yet more personal abuse and accusations.
    I’m not playing.
    If you want to address whatever it was that set you off down this path, we can do that.
    Seriously, I have no idea where this “you are dishonest” “I can’t trust you” stuff comes from.
    Either raise the original issue or I think that’s goodnight.

  25. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    I’m going to take a guess at it.
    When I moved your comment you took it to mean I was against you.
    You took it personally.
    I was at that time struggling with what to do with comments. It wasn’t ideal and I upset many people. But at least I was trying to contribute to this blog.

  26. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    As for disagreeing politically, over the death penalty, etc, I will never, never, ever modify my true opinions as a sop to friendship.
    Politics and friendship are separate.
    I have reserved my strongest criticism to DB on the war.
    I don’t notice him responding with accusations of dishonesty.

  27. JC Avatar

    Because it’s just the latest in a long line of you attempting to draw me into a discussion with you so I’m forced to endure yet more personal abuse and accusations.
    I’m not playing.
    If you want to address whatever it was that set you off down this path, we can do that.
    Seriously, I have no idea where this “you are dishonest” “I can’t trust you” stuff comes from.
    Either raise the original issue or I think that’s goodnight.

    I don’t care if neither you nor anyone else responds to a comment. Similarly, if you leave a comment, anyone has the right to respond.

  28. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Similarly, if you leave a comment, anyone has the right to respond.

    ..
    Correct.
    And I expect you will continue to respond to my comments with abuse and accusations of dishonesty.
    And I will continue to not respond when you act that way.

  29. JC Avatar

    I’m going to take a guess at it.
    When I moved your comment you took it to mean I was against you.
    You took it personally.
    I was at that time struggling with what to do with comments. It wasn’t ideal and I upset many people. But at least I was trying to contribute to this blog.

    You’ve brought this up a few times. I don’t know why because I had no idea you moved a comment until you told me. In fact, I didn’t even comment about this.

  30. JC Avatar

    As for disagreeing politically, over the death penalty, etc, I will never, never, ever modify my true opinions as a sop to friendship.
    Politics and friendship are separate.
    I have reserved my strongest criticism to DB on the war.
    I don’t notice him responding with accusations of dishonesty.

    1. I’ve never once suggested you should change your views on any matter. I criticize them as they deserve lots of criticism but not once have I ever made such a suggestion. You’re yelling at windmills.

    I didn’t say you were being dishonest on Monty issue. I said you were inconsistent.

  31. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    I have reserved my strongest criticism to DB on the war.

    Yes, you did, and you shall be proven wrong.
    This conflict has nothing to do with the Chinese, and the outcome will neither hinder them nor encourage them.
    You are reading it wrong, personal involvement never leads to a cold logical conclusion in politics or any affairs of men.

  32. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to butt in, couldn’t help.
    Apologies.

  33. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Well, I guess it will just have to remain a mystery as to why you have levelled these accusations against me.
    I guess I’ll never know, and you’ll never know what my response to it would be.
    But it sure would have been better if you had responded to the voicemail, we could have had this completely non illuminating conversation months ago.

  34. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Gabor says:
    January 21, 2023 at 2:36 am
    I have reserved my strongest criticism to DB on the war.
    Yes, you did, and you shall be proven wrong.
    This conflict has nothing to do with the Chinese, and the outcome will neither hinder them nor encourage them.

    ..
    I think the destruction of the Black Sea fleet will have caught their attention.
    Whether it ultimately helps them or discourages them I’m not sure. I’m just being upfront that my immediate interest is with Taiwan, and I see the conflict through that lens.

  35. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    Sooner or later, the Chinese will do something about Taiwan militarily.

    Why they would do that is a mystery to me when the Taiwanese gov was very approachable for cooperation, maybe not reunification, a few years ago.
    Besides, Taiwan was never a long term province of China anyway.
    Must be an ego trip

    Same as the South Koreans toward the North, but the North scuttled that reaching out, both economic and political too.
    Ideology rules!

  36. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Gabor:

    Sooner or later, the Chinese will do something about Taiwan militarily.
    Why they would do that is a mystery to me when the Taiwanese gov was very approachable for cooperation, maybe not reunification, a few years ago.
    Besides, Taiwan was never a long term province of China anyway.
    Must be an ego trip

    The Taiwanese government may have been approachable a few years ago, but then Hong Kong happened and they realised unification was just a bus stop on the road to the Camps for most of the Taiwanese population.
    Had the CCP been more lenient in reducing Hong Kongs democratic traditions, Taiwan may have just fallen into its lap, but you cannot expect a Socialist government to act against its own ideological stance.

  37. Robert Sewell Avatar

    Germany, “standing atop a billion-dollar mountain of masks” purchased by the panicked Merkel government in 2020, begins to “thermally reprocess” (i.e., incinerate) the rapidly expiring surplus
    Here.

  38. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    making threats

    fine … I wont shake your hand then

    get some help you infantile tosser

    https://kidshelpline.com.au/

  39. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    The Preppers and Truthers have been busy overnight.

  40. Dot Avatar

    And before everyone gets too soppy over JFK

    Absolutely not.

    He was a deeply flawed man. Before the Missile Crisis, my understanding is that he was viewed as a failure.

    The idea that Oswald was the only shooter was silly and the hand waving away of evidence to the contrary is laughable. Back spasms as your brain tissue is destroyed. Made up by a trial lawyer. No doctor would agree to this crap.

    Kennedy had so many enemies, Sam Giancana being the obvious one along with Castro.

    “Oswald acted alone, for reasons unknown…” – simply absurd, like a blowjob from an intern “isn’t” “sexual relations” but that depends on what your definition of “is” is.

  41. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    m0ntysays:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:28 pm
    I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt MT, grab the floaties when offered.

    LOL, m0nty=fa calls his man-boobs “floaties”.

  42. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    m0ntysays:
    January 20, 2023 at 11:21 pm
    Healthy 18-40 year olds

    … are not even a majority of the population. Try again.

    But are they close to 30%? Try again.

  43. Helen Avatar
    Helen

    duk put up an excellent and definitive analysis of the JFK shooting a few weeks ago.

    I can’t believe it is still being argued on the Cat, is it like the endless Japan should not have been bombed and OMG I cant believe I got the needless needle so must defend my lemming like behaviour (unless it was needed to keep your job to feed your kids and pay the mortgage) re runs?

    It is like being in the bar and the beers keep coming. Is it the comfort of familiar conversations or purely the desire to save face by holding a position?

    It is ground hog day over and over.

  44. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    The fact that Dan Andrews increased his parliamentary majority should put paid to any assertions that he did the wrong or immoral thing. The voters of Victoria are not mugs, they know the score.

    https://youtu.be/KHJbSvidohg

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