Open Thread – Weekend 21 Jan 2023


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Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:03 pm

US Congressional Election 2008:

November 4 (General election)

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2023 5:03 pm

“Beloved Sydney street personality Danny Lim “

“Beloved”, to whom? I regard him as obnoxious. I saw Lim the other day in the Sydney CBD. He looks extremely well, he’s clearly recovered from his physical altercation with the cops and his hospital stay, as I knew he would. Meanwhile, he’s lapped up lots of dosh from GoEffMe and he’s a “celebrity victim”. He’ll continue doing what he does best, being a serial pest to Sydney CBD shop owners and carrying around crude signs with such rude words as “Dutton is a “c-unt”, but that’s okay, it’s perfectly kosher to smear Liberals and Nationals.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 5:04 pm

Best chance for a Yes on The Voice is if the CovidMania cranks up again and it’s Postal Voting only.
In other words, it’s gotta be Stolen to get up.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 22, 2023 5:06 pm

OldOzziesays:
January 22, 2023 at 11:40 am
H B Bear says:
January 22, 2023 at 11:31 am

Did Mother make you play the violin as a child Groogs?

Did Mother make you play the violin as a child

Not Groogs – But Yes and I was lousy –

After I had around a year of lessons, the consensus was that the strings had sounded better in the cat.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 5:11 pm

You have absolutely no proof of this you bizarre fantasist.

Dotty Dot your Dottiness seems not to know where to stop. Maybe in the Basement where you belong sucking your thumb…………………………….baby.

Frank
Frank
January 22, 2023 5:12 pm

“Beloved Sydney street personality Danny Lim”

Is that a euphemism for derro?

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:12 pm

1. There is no proposal for the voice as a working organisation.
2 There is no constitutional proposal for a referendum.
3. The government has already affirmed they know they don’t need a referendum, but it won’t have the same degree of permanency.
4. There will never be a consensus on this, indigenous groups are not homogeneous and there are progressive and conservative factions within.
5. It could be as simple as electing a shadow senate that gives opinions on laws, but why not just let the land councils just form a peak national body with reps from each and write opinions and do consultations? As they are free to do now!

I don’t like it because it implies a race based aristocracy, which is why I detect ideas like saying sorry over and over again, welcome to country and “paying rent(!)”.* Suggestion 5. avoids this because they’d be like everyone else, an Indian lobby, an Italian lobby, a Jewish lobby and a Sudanese lobby etc.

*All of which also assume homogeneity and the left narrative of invasion but no ceding of territory occurred; and that all Aborigines are socialist and always were and will be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Beloved Sydney street personality Danny Lim

You suspect this may only be among SMH readers. But I would need to see a Venn diagram.

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Dotty Dot your Dottiness seems not to know where to stop. Maybe in the Basement where you belong sucking your thumb…………………………….baby.

World class wit, of a sort.

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Random caps.

???

rosie
rosie
January 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Hopefully beloved Sydney street identity Danny Lim will get as many votes as beloved Gosford archdeacon Rod Bower.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 22, 2023 5:16 pm

As a proud Muruwari woman

Considering the observations of the early settlers I wonder how many of those earlier Muruwari women, knocked unconscious for irritating a man, speared in the leg for breaching flickering momentary taboos, traded for a chunk of meat, scarred, bruised, and maimed Muruwari women would have thought themselves proud?

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 5:16 pm

Constitutional expert Prof. Anne Twomey says if the Voice referendum fails, Anthony Albanese will face a “political problem” legislating for it regardless.

You think, Anne?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:17 pm

Go back to 2008/2009 and you you will see what they did. Shareholders lost their money as did many others. Not one Bankster was put in the slammer for being a crook. You live in an Ivory Tower.

You revolting lump of human decay, Woddenhead. The banks lost money because their clients and or the securities they invested in went bust. Ironically, you wanted to see bankers in jail, but Armstrong, who actually stole money; oh he’s fine. You should be deported.

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:19 pm

Beloved Sydney street personality Danny Lim
Colourful racing identity George Freeman
Respected jurist and CSM Murray Farqhuar
Decorated police officer Roger Rogerson
Secure wildlife park Bullen’s African Safari
Cheerful anti crime campaigner Koby Aberton
Women’s rights activist Sheik al Hilaly

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:20 pm

Zelensky is a puppet in so much as almost all functional democracies have elected puppets.
Biden is puppet.
Albo is a puppet.
Rishi is a puppet.
They all answer to their donors.
And the people who will give them jobs long after their time in elected office is over.
They do not answer to their electorates.

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:21 pm

I can’t believe you’re implying Bob Carr isn’t a champion private banker and private equity investor.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 5:22 pm

Constitutional expert Prof. Anne Twomey says if the Voice referendum fails, Anthony Albanese will face a “political problem” legislating for it regardless.

Albo might have a problem keeping his job. Even with those KRuddy amendments. Is Australia really ready for PM Plibbers?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 5:26 pm

Aboriginal cricketer symbolically cranky about Australia Day but will still take the money.

Michael Smith has a picture of this “Proud Muruwari woman” – anyone able to provide a link?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 22, 2023 5:26 pm

Top Endersays:
January 22, 2023 at 1:15 pm
Why the preface of “PROUD” when it comes to describing yourself as one of an aboriginal tribe?

So it stops you using it in front of “white”.

No it doesn’t. I’m a PROUD Australian/Irish/Dutch/German/(possibly also English) man.

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 5:26 pm

Suggestion 5. avoids this because they’d be like everyone else, an Indian lobby, an Italian lobby, a Jewish lobby and a Sudanese lobby etc.

Where do I sign on for the “Descendants of British Settlers” lobby?

I mean, if we’re going to prioritise this by chronological order of arrival as well as race that’s the way to go, right?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:27 pm

Dot, I think you are being naive about Kolomoisky.
There’s some form of loose relationship between him, Zelensky, the Biden family & a range of alphabet agencies.
Keeping the money & the power is one of their many motivations.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 5:27 pm

Is Australia really ready for PM Plibbers?

We had PM Gilliard.

Makka
Makka
January 22, 2023 5:28 pm

The banks lost money because their clients and or the securities they invested in went bust.

In many cases the “securities” (lol) were sold to investors by…… banks. Who made many motzas from their sale. Knowing they were stuffed with trash, all rated nicely by friendly S&P, Fitch et al.. But that’s another story.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Yes, they did sell these securities to their clients as well as banks holding them. But then also explain why banks needed the federal government to come in and support them with Tarp? It could possibly suggest the asset side of their balance sheets were problematic, no?

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 5:33 pm

Democratic countries won strategically at the conclusion of the war and briefly the US beat the North Vietnamese, which is why they signed the accords.

Rubbish Dotty Dot. You really do need to go travelling and not just look at books or read the SMH and the Age or whatever. Look at those helicopters trying to leave Saigon in 1975 with people scampering to get on them. Then look at Dribbling Joe’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. Signed accords? LOL and FMD. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

And in Vietnam they call it the American War and rightly so. And they were not communist. The Vietnamese were Nationalists. Now USA is their friend and the CCP isn’t……………..

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 5:37 pm

Is Australia really ready for PM Plibbers?

We had PM Gilliard.

At least Plibbers can speak properly; no nasal whine or spit flying.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:38 pm

The bailouts & programs from the GFC are poorly understood by most.
One of the sweetest deals was Goldman’s lobbying hard for bailout of AIG, which happened, then AIG paid a chunk to to Goldmans the next day.
Taibbi was spot on with his Vampire Squid description.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:39 pm

And they were not communist. The Vietnamese were Nationalists.

Medics!

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:40 pm

bern

I am sure there are donors and quid pro quos and so on, even with the “deoligarchification”. The idea that Zelensky is a literal marionette is just dumb. He’s not senile like Biden and whether or not there are foreign advisors sticking their beaks in, they are in a defensive war they view as for their survival and this has given him a surge in popularity and literal direct support from the military. The narrative from pro Russia shills often repeat; Russian propaganda about “Khazaria” and “Ukraine” not existing, and a chosen people ebing the puppeteers. The stupid “Zelensky wants WWIII” stuff is typical of Russian propaganda that the NDP and Helen Caldicott used to shill. Yes he’s said some incredibly stupid, provocative stuff but he hasn’t serially said that sort of thing.

Putin can withdraw at any time. He could even just fortify his gains now, ignore Ukraine and just shoot back at or interdict any of their military action. A treaty can be formalised years on after a truce is offered or agreed to. He saves face and his army goes home as a victor. The West won’t arm a war to reclaim Ukrainian land if Putin digs in.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:42 pm

dot, I don’t disagree with anything you just posted.
My comments were related to Kolomoisky.

Indolent
Indolent
January 22, 2023 5:43 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 5:43 pm

Albo’s probably toast whether The Voice gets up or not, so he hasn’t got much motivating him.

He’s never going to beat Dutton in Question Time, though I’d say he’d go better against Angus Taylor.

Plibersek’s task is The Republic if The Voice fails.

Makka
Makka
January 22, 2023 5:44 pm

It could possibly suggest the asset side of their balance sheets were problematic, no?

Most definitely. Some still are is my guess. Especially the Fed’s! My take on the whole situation then was that it was one gigantic pass the parcel and every link in the process/chain of the securitizing process garnered a commission, we are talking hundreds of Billions changing hands. Starting way back at the mortgage writers , the MBS stages , right through to the deep dark vaults of Deutsche Bank.

Then the defaults started happening and suddenly the tide went out catching the naked ugliness of it all. Bankers believed their own bullshit and were caught red handed carrying a lot of heavily discounted paper.

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2023 5:44 pm

“feelthebernsays:
January 22, 2023 at 5:27 pm”

All correct.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 5:45 pm

And they were not communist. The Vietnamese were Nationalists.

That’s an old myth, dispelled a long time ago. There was only going to be one model of Government for an independent Vietnam – a Communist dictatorship. All other Nationalists were betrayed to the French, murdered or purged after 1954.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
January 22, 2023 5:45 pm

Funny how none of the mainstream press reports of the woman cricketer’s oz day problem or athletics plans to allow transsexuals to compete against women have the comments open….

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 5:49 pm

They do not answer to their electorates.

Actually, Zelensky probably does, certainly more so than the others.

Early in his term when he suggested a deal with the Russians he was told he’d be assassinated if he pushed ahead with it.

Since that was his only plan for peace he was pretty much a lame duck president after that until the war revitalised his standing.

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 5:50 pm

You really do need to go travelling and not just look at books or read the SMH and the Age or whatever. Look at those helicopters trying to leave Saigon in 1975 with people scampering to get on them.

Nixon bombed the shit out of Vietnam, into submission and the US Army and Marine Corps never fought under relaxed rules of engagement. If the North was invaded, they KNEW they were toast, so they signed the Paris Accords.

You can take the word of communist generals or you can make up history as the the strategic value of this.

And in Vietnam they call it the American War and rightly so.

I am sure they call the prior war the French War.

And they were not communist.

They were indeed communist, guilty of atrocities like targeting the top 1% of land owners, killing at least 13,500 people in the rural areas.

The Vietnamese were Nationalists.

They were communists first, they rejected unification out of hand. The UN was meant to supervise elections for unification, their Communist allies, the USSR, rejected it.

Now USA is their friend and the CCP isn’t……………..

The Chinese were only “friends” to Vietnam to eject the French and radicalise the Viet Minh more to Mao’s extreme peasant centric communism, even trying to purge the party of literature and art. The Chinese are the historic enemy of the Vietnamese, re: the Trung sisters, etc.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 22, 2023 5:50 pm

H B Bearsays:
January 22, 2023 at 5:13 pm
Beloved Sydney street personality Danny Lim

You suspect this may only be among SMH readers. But I would need to see a Venn diagram.

m0nty=fa can run one up for you. What would you like it to show?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:50 pm

Bern

If AIG went down during that storm, it would have brought the entire financial system down. However, there’s another story to the whole thing. Yes, investment banks did mess around in suspect securities, but banks (not investment banks) were only bit players. The Fed caused this as it misunderstood what was going on. A sudden spike in demand caused commodity prices to spike, and this was read as inflationary when in fact, it was a demand shock and therefore a change in relative prices. The Fed tightened until it caused the economy to choke massively, with massive deflationary consequences. My fear is that it could (not may, but could) happen again. We’ve experienced demand shocks over demand shocks and supply over supply shocks and there’s no way they’re able to untangle what exactly is the inflationary impulse running through the economy. Godspeed in 2023.

Zipster
Zipster
January 22, 2023 5:51 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:51 pm

Paulson only became GW Bush’s treasury secretary so he could sell his Goldman stock tax free.
Obama is lucky he had Tim Geithner in his cabinet.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 5:52 pm

alwaysrightsays:
January 22, 2023 at 12:42 pm
POLL
Who would you prefer as Dear Leader?

No one. How about someone as cheap as possible.

Tom
Tom
January 22, 2023 5:53 pm

Albo might have a problem keeping his job.

Haha. There’s a think tank with Elbow’s name on it as we speak — something about running elections on losing issues, which Elbow is in the process of becoming an expert in (as a loser).

The Liars have a long tradition of looking after their losers, like Paul Keating and (eventually) Bob Hawke, both of whom were gifted Australian lobbies for the Chinese Communist Party, which earned them squillions.

Stuff the Australian national interest — there was money to be made!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 5:53 pm

I am sure they call the prior war the French War.

They do refer to the “French War,” yes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 5:56 pm

The idea that Zelensky is a literal marionette is just dumb.

No, the suggestion that he’s anything other than an actor playing a role is just dumb.

Ukraine can’t defeat Russia.
It’s like the Winter War of 1940.
Finland fought off the Soviet Invasion for 100 days, then agreed to Terms which included loss of Territory, before they collapsed.

Zelenskyy is prolonging the War for no sensible Political reason, conscripts are being recruited at gunpoint and sent to the Front with no Training, so he’s either a traitor or a Stooge, take your pick.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:56 pm

If only Socrates was able to untangle the mess in the economy and tell us what’s going on. If only.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 5:57 pm

US files: Six more classified documents seized at Biden home

Ha, ha, ha, ha……………Dribbling Joe at his best. Trump, you have nothing to worry about as someone has beaten you to it………………….LOL

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64362655

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 5:58 pm

If AIG went down during that storm, it would have brought the entire financial system down.

This is true & the AIG should be more widely understood.

The Fed tightened until it caused the economy to choke massively, with massive deflationary consequences. My fear is that it could (not may, but could) happen again.

The Fed went far too hard (so the RBA).
They had so many other tools they could have used to slow credit growth but they didn’t.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 5:59 pm

Wodney, what’s with all the dots and the LOL at the end of each comment you post, you dickhead?

cohenite
January 22, 2023 6:00 pm

Mother Lodesays:
January 22, 2023 at 5:16 pm
As a proud Muruwari woman

Considering the observations of the early settlers I wonder how many of those earlier Muruwari women, knocked unconscious for irritating a man, speared in the leg for breaching flickering momentary taboos, traded for a chunk of meat, scarred, bruised, and maimed Muruwari women would have thought themselves proud?

Aboriginals were some of the toughest hunters and gathers the world has seen; which means that women were absolute chattels. But the left, who are made insane by their virtue propelled sense of superiority, regard them as victims and therefore, a la pascoe, have reinvented these tough bastards as Noble savages with flowers behind their ears and all sort of fanciful women rights, secret business and the like.

When I went and saw Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux 5 years ago they went through aboriginal hunting and gathering culture with a switch-blade, comparing it to the horrors of islam with aboriginal culture coming off second. That’s to be expected because as I say the hunting and gathering basis of aboriginality put them as close to nature as is humanly possible; and nature is red in fu.king tooth and claw. Idiots who venerate aboriginal hunting and gathering should be stripped naked and put in the middle of the Simpson desert with a goanna shoved up their arse.

The screech has nothing to do with aboriginals but, like every cause of the fu.king left, is merely a vehicle to institute communism. The aboriginals deserve nothing except what every other citizen gets; they had thousands of years of ripping the place apart. They got lucky when Cook arrived and they’ve had equality in every respect since 1967. But unless dutton bites the bullet and starts to shove this shit back at rub and tug and his fellow swine our constitution will be flushed down the toilet.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 6:03 pm

It wasn’t a message from the electorate, they’d just given him a Mandate for peace in the Donbass.

Makka
Makka
January 22, 2023 6:05 pm

If AIG went down during that storm, it would have brought the entire financial system down.

That was fixed when the US changed the Accountancy Laws by dropping the “mark to market” requirement to “mark to make believe”. Suddenly, as if by magic, all those derivatives were worth substantially more. Voila!

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 6:06 pm

Most definitely. Some still are is my guess. Especially the Fed’s! My take on the whole situation then was that it was one gigantic pass the parcel and every link in the process/chain of the securitizing process garnered a commission, we are talking hundreds of Billions changing hands. Starting way back at the mortgage writers , the MBS stages , right through to the deep dark vaults of Deutsche Bank.

The underwriters are sheltered workshops. That’s the core of the corruption, along with the HUD guarantees and CRA, which the left defend with tooth and nail it is insane. Then you have far too lose MP with Greenspan and the direct lines of credit the FNMA, GNMA etc had to the US Treasury, literally for trillions of dollars. Then on top of that, are no-recourse mortgages.

It can all happen again.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 6:08 pm

They got lucky when Cook arrived and they’ve had equality in every respect since 1967

Nonsense, they were equal before that too.

the 1967 census.

Essentially these changes allowed for Aboriginal people to be included in the census and altered the ‘race power’ to allow federal parliament to make ‘special laws’ about Aboriginal peoples.

Big freaking deal if they weren’t included.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 6:10 pm

But unless dutton bites the bullet and starts to shove this shit back at rub and tug and his fellow swine our constitution will be flushed down the toilet.

Rubbish.
Taking a position without knowing the facts makes it a Partisan issue, which means a Labor/Green/Fellow Traveler win.

Yeah, the National Party can afford to take the No position, because The Voice will only get up in 1 or 2 of their 17 Electorates.

Frank
Frank
January 22, 2023 6:11 pm

“Scott Adams does a U-turn on the vax”

Starting to get the feeling his goose is cooked?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 6:12 pm

Rosie at 3:41.

My host told me the metro station I wanted was on line 2 but on checking it was definitely on line 1, so there was a bit of toing and froing around Piazza Garibaldi. The station complex is modern and well organised, much like Termini.

True.
We caught a train from that station about four years ago. I remember it from the 1990’s as being dingy and crowded.
Last time I read the online reviews which called it dangerous and a pick-pocket’s paradise, with horror stories of knifepoint robberies. Traffic was gridlocked and the taxi driver let us out about 200 metres from the station. We walked down a narrow footpath cut-off by construction hoardings, clutching our passports and credit cards firmly under our chain-mail vests, furtively looking left and right for swarthy thieves.
Rounded the corner into the station…. wide open expanse of well-lit concourse with armed Carabinieri patrolling and no choke points or lurking spots for ne’er-do-wells.
It made me wonder if people on the web make shit up.

Rabz
January 22, 2023 6:12 pm

Pol Dot says: January 22, 2023 at 5:50 pm

“Languishing in a Kampuchean Jungle, I tells ya!” 😕

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 22, 2023 6:12 pm

But unless dutton bites the bullet and starts to shove this shit back at rub and tug and his fellow swine our constitution will be flushed down the toilet.

cohenite that has already happened to our Constitution over the last 3 years.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 6:14 pm

altered the ‘race power’ to allow federal parliament to make ‘special laws’ about Aboriginal peoples.

That wasn’t a good thing either.
The Federal Government was able to deport the Kanakas in 1906 and Intern Japs, Italians and Germans in the 1940s, but until 1967 Aborigines were the one Race not subject to that Power.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 6:20 pm

Is Australia really ready for PM Plibbers?

Only if she knows where the hyper bowl is and can pronounce it as hyperbole. Gizzard couldn’t.

cohenite
January 22, 2023 6:23 pm

Nonsense, they were equal before that too.

Read this numbnuts.

Big freaking deal if they weren’t included.

If you read my link you will see the 67 referendum gave the Commonwealth power to make laws for aboriginals. previously they couldn’t. After the constitution was altered, Mabo followed and Native Title. 50% of Australia is now covered by Native Title. That is a big freaking deal. The Voice will be worse; much worse. Now STFU while I deal with crotchless.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 6:25 pm

Makkasays:
January 22, 2023 at 6:05 pm
If AIG went down during that storm, it would have brought the entire financial system down.

That was fixed when the US changed the Accountancy Laws by dropping the “mark to market” requirement to “mark to make believe”. Suddenly, as if by magic, all those derivatives were worth substantially more. Voila!

The US Fed saved the day. AIG in London was farked. Bear Stearns folded and got bought up for 1 US dollar. Wot’ a cheap buy and the property holdings for free. Goldman Sucks did alright too. Banksters rule OK.

cohenite
January 22, 2023 6:25 pm

cohenite that has already happened to our Constitution over the last 3 years.

Activist courts, especially in respect to Native Title, after Mabo have made merry. But those changes are not constitutional changes and can be attacked by legislation. The Voice will alter the Constitution in a much more profound way.

cohenite
January 22, 2023 6:30 pm

That wasn’t a good thing either.
The Federal Government was able to deport the Kanakas in 1906 and Intern Japs, Italians and Germans in the 1940s, but until 1967 Aborigines were the one Race not subject to that Power.

The clause read special laws; ordinary legislation could be applied. Prior to 67 aboriginals were subject to a greater degree of control by state laws. The 67 alteration was the last piece of the jigsaw giving equality between aboriginals and other citizens at a federal level. The problem, as Mabo and consequent cases show, is activist courts who have in effect made laws ultra vires.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 6:32 pm

We had PM Gilliard.

How did that work out? 1950s Welsh class struggle comes to Radelaide.

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 6:33 pm

By whom? Azov?

Along those lines, yes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 6:33 pm

Once Labor wins the NSW election, get ready for a policy tsunami from Canberra.
The change in super taxes will be one of the first cabs off the rank.

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2023 6:40 pm

I’ve been thinking about the line “I still can’t understand why anyone cares what the WEF says

I’m pretty sure many said similar about the Bolsheviks in Russia in 1916.

I’m pretty sure many in Germany and outside Germany said similar about the Nazis in 1931 and 1932.

I’ve heard quite a few people say similar to me over the last few years when I’ve expressed serious concerns about the whole transgender lunacy cult yet today I read that World Athletics are pushing ahead with a plan to permit transgender women (biological males) compete against biological females in international athletics competition.

Please forgive me, I think I’ll care a great deal about what the WEF says. I know quite a lot of history and that history has taught me that Hitler, Mao, Lenin and other tyrants, despots and criminals throughout history have almost always laid out what they planned to do before seizing power. They were quite honest about it, just like the WEF is. Nobody can say they weren’t warned. When WEF acolytes such as Tony Blair and Julie Inman Grant spruik WEF thought farts, such as more censorship of ordinary people, I’m going to believe them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 22, 2023 6:40 pm

Libs in NSW are goners.

Premier Dominic Perrottet says Coalition can win New South Wales election despite polling suggesting Labor victory (22 Jan)

The new YouGov poll has Labor leading the Coalition 56-44 per cent on a two-party preferred basis ahead of the March 25 election.

The Chris Minns-led opposition is also ahead of the Government 39-33 per cent on first preferences.

Thirty three percent primary eh. The base hates Photios/Kean and no Perrottet-shaped figleaf will get them to hold their nose. And NSW votes can exhaust.

Get the Tesla Y ready, you be able to fit in it after the election wet Lib net-zero people.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 6:44 pm

Watching this stupid show on Netflix called Stay Close.
There’s a guy in it who looks like a really fat Andrew Tate.

Rabz
January 22, 2023 6:46 pm

Is being chairman of the WEF a lifetime thing? Klaus has been it as far as I can remember.
Crossie, the WEF is no ordinary business. It’s run like a dodgy family company with opaque financials and a lot of “reinvestment” of its not inconsiderable profits into private ventures owned by the Standartenführer. Some might call him one of the most successful conmen of modern times, with his marks being the world’s great and good in the realms of business and politics.

Standartenführer Schwab founded the WEF, kiddies.

Because we all love our “German Economists”, especially after the ’39 to ’45 unpleasantness. 😕

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 6:50 pm

Get the Tesla Y ready, you be able to fit in it after the election wet Lib net-zero people.

Be doing well to match the WA Lieborals. Won’t stop them from trying though. Green and Kean.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 6:52 pm

Because we all love our “German Economists”, especially after the ’39 to ’45 unpleasantness. ?

The Austrians go OK.

Robert Sewell
January 22, 2023 6:55 pm

Zipster:

This must NEVER happen again. The media are complicit in the biggest crimes against the people.

It will happen again unless the punishment for the lies and the deaths exceeds the profits to be made.
(NADT)

Rabz
January 22, 2023 6:59 pm

The Minns led labore opposition is also ahead of the Government 39-33 per cent on first preferences

What the *#@% did the gliberals expect? This NSW gliberal government has been one of the most embarrassing, obnoxious and lacklustre bunch of braindead barely concealed hitlerists I’ve had the misfortune to exist under in my lifetime.

The daily Beryl Gladyschlocklian bat flu press conferences were an infuriating new low and they will all be held accountable, so help me.

I existed in an “LGA” that was subject to a curfew, FFS. In peacetime, in a so called “liberal western democracy”.

Health Hazzard – the last thing you will see before your pointless existence is brought to a long overdue end will be my monstrous visage. A premature vision of the joys that await you in Satan’s realm, you fat braindead piece of hitlerist excrement.

Never forget, never forgive.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 22, 2023 7:00 pm

The Andrews government is seriously considering a complete ban on duck shooting just weeks ahead of the 2023 season.

Pressure has been mounting on the government to outlaw the annual hunt for years, with growing internal pressure from Labor MPs and ministers to end the practice.

“It was very close to coming to an end in 2022, but it didn’t get over the line because it was an election year” one source close to discussions said.

“As an issue, there is a genuine split within the caucus and there are senior ministers who want it stopped. There is momentum there for a change.

“However, the premier has been reluctant to go ahead with a ban in the past and it is likely to come down to his call.”

A government spokeswoman would not rule out a ban and said discussions remained ongoing.

Herald-Sun, with comment not supportive. Here’s one:

Stefan
20 minutes ago
So what of the 10’s of $1000 I have invested into duck hunting, Do I receive reparations for this outlay? What do I do with my duck punt, motor, decoys, hunting outifts, shotgun, ammo that have cost me a lot of money. They are useless as I can’t sell them to anyone. I served my nation for 40 years in the Army as I wanted to protect our liberties and freedoms and I am having them taken away for me by the very Govt’s I swore to protect. What was it all for???? This is criminal …. the right to hunt is a basic right.

bons
bons
January 22, 2023 7:01 pm

Felthern, yes.
Divert shareholder dividends to unionists through outrageous wages.
Screw all superannuation schemes other than Union Super Funds.
Ban SMSF.
Cancel franking credit rebates.
Remove the private health insurance rebate.
Death tax.
People don’t understand how hate driven these nobodies are. Never having worked and never having struggled to raise a family their worldview it limited completely by their associations, all of which are either public sector, university, or union.
Their contempt for the rural sector is indicative of their ignorance. Mind you, Morrisson was equally as narrow in his experience and associations – hence his refusal to make the Public Service share the pain that they created during covid outrage.
He was equally contemptuous of the rural sector – witness his refusal to provide assistance during the recent drought.
Small business simply annoys them – it’s messy and they demand things, and they are told by ATO/Tres that they are all tax cheats.
We are ruled by profoundly ignorant city dwelling scammers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 7:02 pm

Rabz – a measured response. Baseball bats ready?

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 7:05 pm

There’s a guy in it who looks like a really fat Andrew Tate.

He has no chin?

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 7:08 pm

Green and Kean.

There’s a movement active in the NSW Libs that is subversive of that agenda.

’twill be interesting to see what traction they get from a wipeout.

Robert Sewell
January 22, 2023 7:12 pm

Sancho Panzer:

Even though the Driller claimed the tradie had money in the bank, he was scrounging for food 8 days later.

You realise that having money in the bank isn’t the same as having it in your pocket?
Lose your wallet with your cards in it, cancel your cards and try to get money out of the bank. It’s not that simple – especially if you’re out bush and the nearest branch is 100km away.

Makka
Makka
January 22, 2023 7:15 pm

Newsom Twosome: Siebel Newsom’s Films – Shown In Middle Schools – Feature Pawn, Radical Gender Ideologies, And Her Husband Gavin

https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/newsom-twosome-siebel-newsoms-films

mOron’s lot, grooming kids for profits. Naturally the MSM can’t see anything wrong.

P
P
January 22, 2023 7:19 pm

Kmart’s anti-Australia Day push is ‘anti-migrant’

Sky News host Rita Panahi says Kmart’s refusal to sell Australia Day merchandise is an insult to migrant Australians, giving the “message that you’re not as entitled to call this country yours”.

Ms Panahi said the “polling” from a variety of outlets revealed a “clear majority” of Australians want Australia Day to remain on January 26 and migrants were among the “most patriotic”.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 7:21 pm

THE BEST REVENGE IS REVENGE
REVENGE #1: A man and his wife were at odds and not talking to each other. In the evening, the man suddenly remembered that he needed his wife to wake him up the next day at 5am so he could make it in time for a business flight. Since he did not want to be the first to break the silence, he wrote to her on a piece of paper “Please wake me up at 5am” and left the note on the bedside table. The next morning the man woke up only to find that it was 9am and he had missed the flight! He jumped out of bed furiously to find out why his wife had not awakened him and came across a note on his bedside table. The note read “It’s 5 o’clock, wake up”.

REVENGE #2: Two friends met at the neighbourhood supermarket one day. When they got to the checkout one of the ladies started rummaging through her purse for her wallet, she took out a few things, including a TV remote. “Do you always take the remote with you when you go shopping?” The other woman laughed. “No” the woman answered “But I asked my husband if he wanted to help me shop and he said no, I asked him if I could take the car and he replied that as long as I left him the TV, I could take whatever I wanted and get out of the house. So I turned to the fashion channel and told him he had nothing to worry about”.

Johnny Rotten
January 22, 2023 7:24 pm

Plato is my friend; Aristotle is my friend, but my greatest friend is truth.

– Isaac Newton

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 7:30 pm

Divert shareholder dividends to unionists through outrageous wages.
Screw all superannuation schemes other than Union Super Funds.
Ban SMSF.
Cancel franking credit rebates.
Remove the private health insurance rebate.
Death tax.
People don’t understand how hate driven these nobodies are. Never having worked and never having struggled to raise a family their worldview it limited completely by their associations, all of which are either public sector, university, or union.
Their contempt for the rural sector is indicative of their ignorance. Mind you, Morrisson was equally as narrow in his experience and associations – hence his refusal to make the Public Service share the pain that they created during covid outrage.
He was equally contemptuous of the rural sector – witness his refusal to provide assistance during the recent drought.
Small business simply annoys them – it’s messy and they demand things, and they are told by ATO/Tres that they are all tax cheats.
We are ruled by profoundly ignorant city dwelling scammers.

Worth repeating!

You’d think they were sitting on 64% of the primary vote rather than 32%.

Yes, yes, I know…Greens, Teals & Pocock.

But still…but that’s a lot of voters to piss off.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 22, 2023 7:35 pm

Genuine question.
How much of the excess death “bump” during December & so far into the start of January can be attributed to this killer flu season that’s been ripping globally?
I caught the worst flu I’ve had in years between Christmas & New Year that took 8 days to shake.
I know so many people who have had flu this summer.
Most of them have said the flu they caught was worse than COVID when they had it.
Bad flu season typically equals more deaths.
As I said, genuine question.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 22, 2023 7:38 pm

How much of the excess death “bump” during December & so far into the start of January can be attributed to this killer flu season that’s been ripping globally?
The real question is: how much of the killer flu season is caused by immune system depression from the jabs?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 7:39 pm

You realise that having money in the bank isn’t the same as having it in your pocket?
Lose your wallet with your cards in it, cancel your cards and try to get money out of the bank. It’s not that simple – especially if you’re out bush and the nearest branch is 100km away.

Turtlehead, piss off. Go blow Driller, you worthless dickhead.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 22, 2023 7:43 pm

We need a pet name for the new NZ PM.

HamsterHip?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 7:46 pm

Cronkite
I was responding to your false claim. This:

They got lucky when Cook arrived and they’ve had equality in every respect since 1967

Let me repeat, they were equal before 1967. The fact that the states dealt with Abo matters doesn’t mean they weren’t equal. I don’t quite get why you brought up the other stuff when I was responding to your very inaccurate comment.

Rabz
January 22, 2023 7:47 pm

Baseball bats ready?

Louisville Sluggers of the “Negan Collection“, Bear.

Which will be joyously wielded, so help me almighty deity. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 22, 2023 7:52 pm

We need a pet name for the new NZ PM.

Hitlerkins. He was the guy running the NZ lockdowns and mandates.

Lockdown Tsar Chris Hipkins to Become Next New Zealand Prime Minister (21 Jan)

cohenite
January 22, 2023 7:57 pm

Let me repeat

Did you read my link written by professor Helen Irving? Of course not. The primary purpose of the 67 referendum was to rectify a fundamental INEQUALITY between aboriginals and every other citizen of every other race: to wit the Commonwealth could make special laws for every other citizen of every other race EXCEPT aboriginals. The 67 referendum changed that and included aboriginals in the ambit of the Commonwealth to make special laws.

Please don’t harp on this; you’re wrong; go and have a slug of scotch.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 22, 2023 7:57 pm

H

itlerkins. He was the guy running the NZ lockdowns and mandates.

I like Maokins myself

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 22, 2023 7:57 pm

Rosie, I am all admiration for your independence in travels, something I did in my youth but which I would not try to do now. However, I won’t stop travelling even if I didn’t have Hairy as a companion, I would find others. Even if he should become less the competent traveller and driver that he is, we would still travel, booking tours that were all-in rather than the do-it-yourself modes we currently favour.

You and I have the travel bug. It bites hard. Today we move on to Pitauchy, just below the Great Glen, to stay in a castle hotel which nominates itself as a Palace. We shall see.

Been catching up on the Cat in bed and now late for that whisky porridge.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 22, 2023 8:02 pm

feelthebern says:
January 22, 2023 at 7:35 pm

Genuine question.
How much of the excess death “bump” during December & so far into the start of January can be attributed to this killer flu season that’s been ripping globally?

Havn’t had the flu in about 5 years & never had the China Pox, i put it down to a clean christian lifestyle.

And whiskey, that probably helped and bacon, because it’s bacon.

You know it makes sense.

Crossie
Crossie
January 22, 2023 8:02 pm

I know so many people who have had flu this summer.
Most of them have said the flu they caught was worse than COVID when they had it.
Bad flu season typically equals more deaths.

I had a flu in September, not Covid as I got tested, and it was really awful. It took me six weeks to recover some semblance of normality. I had a worse case about forty years ago but I bounced back a lot quicker then.

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 8:07 pm

Lockdown Tsar Chris Hipkins to Become Next New Zealand Prime Minister (21 Jan)

So he’ll take his own lumps as well as Jacinda’s.

Excellent.

Rabz
January 22, 2023 8:10 pm

An Economist and an Eastern Suburbs glamourpuss party chick, out for some Saturday night escapades … 🙂

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 8:17 pm

Genuine question.
How much of the excess death “bump” during December & so far into the start of January can be attributed to this killer flu season that’s been ripping globally?
I caught the worst flu I’ve had in years between Christmas & New Year that took 8 days to shake.
I know so many people who have had flu this summer.
Most of them have said the flu they caught was worse than COVID when they had it.
Bad flu season typically equals more deaths.
As I said, genuine question.

Bern, I got it on the plane, coming back from the US in mid December. I had both a cold virus and flu A which is a real horror according to the doc. At the same time, wifey caught COVID on the plane. That flight was a death trap. 🙂

Since then I’ve had two other viruses.

I think the lockdowns had some adverse impact in some way.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JCsays: January 22, 2023 at 7:39 pm
Turtlehead, piss off. Go blow Driller, you worthless dickhead.

Classy guy.
(this one is worth bookmarking)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 8:37 pm

Daily Mail – she’s not getting much chop in the comments.

Indigenous cricket star Ash Gardner slams Australia Day as the ‘beginning of genocide’ and says she’s unhappy about having to play on January 26 – sparking a flood of backlash from fans

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 8:38 pm

But still…but that’s a lot of voters to piss off.

I’m not sure that even enters the equation for the Liars. Give the Unions what they want and then back to Opposition while the Lieborals and the APS implement it and fix the books (except Josh and SloMo). Wait till the electorate forgets and the Lieborals become unelectable. Repeat. There main problem is long term loss of votes to the Greens.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 22, 2023 8:39 pm

Wrong their there. Stupid English.

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 8:43 pm

I’m not sure that even enters the equation for the Liars.

Evidently not.

There main problem is long term loss of votes to the Greens.

Going to be interesting – in the Confucian sense – as the green agenda eats further into the budgets of a good portion of the 32% of Labor rusted ons.

Do something, Jim!

rosie
rosie
January 22, 2023 8:45 pm

Exactly Lizzie.
I was out in the rain by eight this morning, businesses most likely to be open were fishmongers, lots of little shellfish in tubs of water.
Found a few churches but the first couple didn’t have noticeboards so I assumed not currently operational, then one with a open gate and a board with mass times, including a nine am so I sat in the back drying off for half an hour.
I have now indulged in a cappuccino* and a cornetto con crema which were better than expected.

There is a funicular a few steps away from here so I shall have an adventure on that then visit the gallery of Italian art because endless raining.
I could have borrowed un ombrello from my place but figured I could just put the hood of my rain jacket up, butit would almost be worth dragging one around to avoid the dozens of street vendors wanting to sell me one.
Had a squizz at an info board on another former palazzo now a bank. Like mine (which has a wiki page ) it was looted in the something beginning with M, Masseolini? riots in the late 1600s.
Apparently mine at one stage had 1100 artworks including some by Rubens.
When you’re rich you’re rich.
*I got the cappuccino because it allows one to linger longer.

Roger
Roger
January 22, 2023 8:46 pm

The solution for the Australian woman cricketer upset about playing on Australia Day would appear to be staring her in the face: Don’t play and forego your match fee.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 8:48 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
January 22, 2023 at 8:25 pm

Classy guy.
(this one is worth bookmarking)

Oh classy , yeah? Like a week or so ago with your comments laced with degenerate abuse. Get out of here, you dishonest, hypocritical loser. I’ll keep that too to match your bookmark, you lowlife.

Zipster
Zipster
January 22, 2023 8:48 pm

Genuine question.
How much of the excess death “bump” during December & so far into the start of January can be attributed to this killer flu season that’s been ripping globally?

excess deaths are mostly heart attacks and cancer

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh classy , yeah? Like a week or so ago with your comments laced with degenerate abuse. Get out of here, you dishonest, hypocritical loser. I’ll keep that too to match your bookmark, you lowlife.

Intelligent & well reasoned response there from Stuphid.
Last night’s faceplant by him must really be smarting.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 8:57 pm

Lorne’s nice

just spent the last two days there doing a little job there
let’s just say it was worth the trouble of doing it on a weekend

food was alright, the accommodation was nice
up early and getting about with the locals reminded my of the Mornington Peninsula
it was like home, but west-coast

we are doing a similar trip through NSW early next month so I’ll be away for the week and the missus’ is tuned into it.

she has a mate over from the UK and they’re already planning their week in Lorne up the Mantra resort while I slog it out in New South

it aint Kata Noi but still, excellent time of year for it

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 8:57 pm

to wit the Commonwealth could make special laws for every other citizen of every other race EXCEPT aboriginals.

In other words, the Commonwealth was forbidden by the 1901 Constitution from making any Laws specific to Aborigines.

Good.

So, why change that in 1967?

Obviously, that change is required before the Constitution can be altered by the insertion of The Voice.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 8:58 pm

Driller, you live in another universe where you’re a winner. It’s not this one though, you imbecile.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 22, 2023 9:01 pm

‘proud Muruwari woman’

Alluded to earlier, but let’s see how proud you are when your *ahem* is widened with a sharp rock before the bucks sort you out, then ‘traditionally’ married to one of the tribal elders, had your head beaten in with star pickets and bicycle frames, then shit yourself while asleep every night for two months before being thrown in a pit.

You should be distancing yourself from that Stone Age ‘culture’ at every opportunity.

Oh. Oh, right. Suburban indig, and nominal at that. A whole other story.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 9:08 pm

the concept of perpetual motion machines may violate the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd laws of thermodynamics depending on the machine’s formulation

but I’ll postulate right here that

as long as the internet is in existence then JC will continue to wank furiously

and it will impossible to tell if it’s perpetual motion or not

… prove me wrong

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

…you live in another universe where you’re a winner. It’s not this one though, you imbecile.

Yep, last night’s faceplant by him is really smarting.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 9:10 pm

proof in … 3 … 2 … 1

cohenite
January 22, 2023 9:11 pm

Stop trying to take the piss crotchless.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 9:14 pm

then ‘traditionally’ married to one of the tribal elders,

When you’ve had three or four children, and he’s tired of you – if you survive – he’ll take a younger wife, and you’ll be passed on to the young fellas…..

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 9:17 pm

Yep, last night’s faceplant by him is really smarting.

Driller, can you ever come up with something original? Do you lift everything? Faceplant, struphid? I’m flattered that you take stuff from me and use it as your own. But at some stage you need to track through life on your lonesome.

And no, nothing you said or say now removes the stain of your lying about the tradie begging for food. It’s laughable trolling.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh noes, Stuphid’s so tightly wound he’s made a formatting blunder.
Last night’s faceplant by him is smarting more than we first believed.

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2023 9:27 pm

I really like National Keith Pitt. He’s a straight talker and he speaks sense. Apart from Senator Alex Antic (who’s fantastic), there’s no one in the Liberals who comes near him.

Robert Sewell
January 22, 2023 9:28 pm

Salvatore:

Classy guy.
(this one is worth bookmarking)

I’d already done so by the time I got to your comment, But it’s OK – we’re about to get all the details of someone catching COVID, the Flu, and the state of their ingrown toenails.
I mean, just how world shattering is it when one gets the COVID AND the Flu on one transpacific flight rushing backwards and forwards saving ones Global Empire?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie; I don’t disagree with you re Keith Pitt.
However all the usual caveats apply. He’s still a major party machine politician first & foremost.
He’s been somewhat disappointing to me a couple of times.
He does seem to be making some better noises the past coupla years, perhaps he’s had a Road to Damascus moment at some point.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 9:43 pm

Turtlehead, if you’re not groveling to me, you’re teaming up with The Driller pretending you have something useful to say to him about me. It’s just a pitiful form of stoush trolling. You’re such pathetic individual. Most reasonable people ignore you here. I do most times except when your trolling becomes too much. Even your pattern of behavior is sad. If I ever respond to you unkindly, you simply run to Uncle Driller and gossip about me. Just sad. Just go away.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 9:50 pm

Hundreds of kids roam wild streets of Alice

Exclusive
By LIAM MENDES
Reporter
@liammendes
9:43PM January 22, 2023

On any given night, more than 200 children, some as young as five, roam the streets of Alice Springs looking for trouble – and almost always find it.

Many of those kids are drinking alcohol, sometimes in the form of hand sanitiser diluted in soft drinks, or consuming deodorant, petrol or glue.

When the Northern Territory Police Minister and police commissioner flew in to Alice Springs on Thursday, police launched a crime blitz – arresting locals for drinking in public, picking up young children in the back of their caged trucks, where they would then be bussed by a community organisation back to their town camps.

Only for the children to walk straight back into town.

Labor’s MP in Alice Springs says alcohol bans need to be brought back to curb the spiralling violence and crime.

Marion Scrymgour, federal MP in the seat of Lingiari, says she has watched “lawlessness and disrespect” in the town grow exponentially since the Stronger Futures laws lapsed in July last year, making alcohol legal in many Aboriginal town camps for the first time in 15 years.
A group of a dozen men and women engage in conflict brandishing weapons – including machetes and baseball bats – outside The Gap View Hotel in Alice Springs just in September, 2022.

The former NT deputy chief minister says the removal of the grog ban has led to a level of violence she had never encountered.

“I just find it unacceptable in this day and age that the violence against Aboriginal women in this town raises very little urgency from anyone – it’s appalling,” Ms Scrymgour said.

“There’s the issue of young people and the level of lawlessness and disrespect amongst those young people; to put it quite bluntly, they don’t give a shit.

“They don’t respect law or ­culture anymore and then there’s the adults and the level of violence, and it’s not just male on male or male on female, there’s a really bad level of violence of female on female and particularly under the influence of alcohol.

“I’ve seen some horrific fights in and around the town area of Alice Springs where women are just drunk and just stomping on (other women’s) heads.”

Daylight home invasions, ­vehicle theft, and a constant stream of physical violence and damage to property mean residents feel unsafe even in their homes. In one incident witnessed by The Australian, a caucasian man is set upon by a young Indigenous man wielding a wheel brace and beaten. After falling to the ground, he is kicked three times in the head.

“I’m at wits’ end,” said Ms Scrymgour. “I’ve participated in a number of roundtables trying to get a sense of urgency.

“The Northern Territory government does have responsibility for policing but trying to get them to see that there has to be some level of restrictions come back in, in terms of alcohol … (it) has been quite a feat just to get them to realise it’s a problem.”

On Thursday and Friday night, The Australian witnessed police conducting a rare operation to round up children.

Alice Springs mayor Matt Patterson says there can be more than a couple of hundred children roaming around every night. “It is hard to believe that this is the case in Australia in 2023 and I’m not sure what needs to happen or how much worse things can possibly get for people to start listening to us,” Mr Patterson said.

Due to high levels of domestic violence and sexual assault as well as lack of food, “it is probably safer for these kids to be on the street”, he added.

“What hope are we giving these children for their lives?” Mr Patterson said. “There is no accountability of parents and we are all too scared to have the difficult conversations. Alice Springs needs help; the kids need help.”

Many of the problems begin in the early afternoon, when the perpetrators return after staying awake all night and sleeping until late morning. It’s not just children and teenagers.

Just past midday at the Gap View hotel, an Indigenous man chases another into the pub, one brandishing a machete and the other a large metal pole.

A bouncer pushes the man holding the machete in a nonchalant manner out of the pub, where he’s met by a group of a dozen men and women, all brandishing similar weapons.

What happens next is a scene now normalised in Alice Springs – crowbars, bats, and machetes are thrown in what locals say is a disagreement between families.

A proud Aboriginal woman cricketer could be there to teach them about their culture……

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 9:52 pm

He’s been somewhat disappointing to me a couple of times.

Last night he was feeding starving tradies.

This evening:

Driller, the king maker in Australian politics. Don’t disappoint him!
Not even a couple of times.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 10:03 pm

I really like National Keith Pitt. He’s a straight talker and he speaks sense.

He’s a Galah and a Yahoo.
And a clown.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 10:14 pm

LoL

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 10:15 pm

Sewerl earlier.

You realise that having money in the bank isn’t the same as having it in your pocket?
Lose your wallet with your cards in it, cancel your cards and try to get money out of the bank. It’s not that simple – especially if you’re out bush and the nearest branch is 100km away.

Well, dur.
So why not work for cash at the going rate ($50 to $80 per hour depending on the trade), pull about $500 for the day and then pay for a greasy counter-meal at $30-$40?
Why would you work just for tucker.
Unless you are extremely stupid.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 10:20 pm

Let’s pretend Salvatore is a straight shooter.

Perhaps there was no work, the chippies had the munchies, and the tide was out?
It wasn’t any skin off his nose to get them to paint the balustrading, fix the steps, nail a few palings on the fence, rehang the door that the cops put a sledgie thru.
And feed them a coupla boiled eggs, a plate of chips and a coleslaw side?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:23 pm

He was a very well spoken tradie, Sanchez and he had excellent table manners too eating that 10 buck burger with a knife and fork. 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sancho (the Clown of Collins Street) & Stuphid-on-Yarra faceplanted heavily last night.
They seem to want to continue the faceplant.
Both (assuming they are different people) are so privileged & so removed from the Australian experience they had no idea when lockdown started.

They both (assuming they are different people) then cluelessly pontificate about the experience of the Australian working man, announcing from the comfort of Collins street hypotheticals that they deem to be the experience & the options of a bush itinerant.
And make pronouncements about the comforts of being put out of a job.

“No bread to make sandwiches – let them eat cake”

Pair of Melbourne morons.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:28 pm

Eddles

I get how the tradies had to rehang the door after the cops broke it down. Drills always seems to be in some sort of strife. What’s the tide have anything to do with it though?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 10:29 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

January 22, 2023 at 7:57 pm

Rosie, I am all admiration for your independence in travels …

Uptick.
It’s sometimes pretty hard travelling in foreign lands struggling with language and cultural differences, even with someone by your side.
Takes some bottle to do it alone.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:31 pm

Drills, that’s a very emotional outburst.

Robert Sewell
January 22, 2023 10:31 pm

JC:

Turtlehead, if you’re not groveling to me, you’re teaming up with The Driller pretending you have something useful to say to him about me. It’s just a pitiful form of stoush trolling. You’re such pathetic individual. Most reasonable people ignore you here. I do most times except when your trolling becomes too much. Even your pattern of behavior is sad. If I ever respond to you unkindly, you simply run to Uncle Driller and gossip about me. Just sad. Just go away.

What an odd world you live in where being polite is seen as ‘groveling’. And what a ridiculous picture of yourself you draw when yo see yourself at the centre of it.
Stick with the cheesecake recipes, sunshine. It’s more your style.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

that’s a very emotional outburst.

Your privilege is showing.
I’m please for your free ride in life. Nic e that you ride in comfort while others work for a living.
Why though, denigrate those others?

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 10:34 pm

JC and sancho, there’s a couple of things you missed … and it it ruins your tick-game

but yr so clever, you probs already worked it out

keep it up

… youse don’t look like tossers at all

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:41 pm

It’s not odd in the slightest. You know, I really want nothing to do with you. I’ve said this along as I find you be disgusting. Forgive me for saying that , but it’s how I feel about you.

I never read what you post except comments dealing with me that you now direct to others as though you’re just having a casual discussion. Unable ever “get me” you defame me such as the Brian instance.

In my opinion, your comments are basically unintelligent sludge with some veering towards extreme.
Just go away and stop talking to me or about me. I find you pathetic.

Have the Chinese landed at Melbourne Airport yet, You whacko. Piss off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 10:44 pm

I am prepared to accept that the alleged “tradie” might work for a greasy bag of dimmies if he was an air-con guy.
They’re a dime a dozen.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You whacko. Piss off.

Yep, it’s smarting one helluva lot at having faceplanted.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I am prepared to accept

What you are “prepared” to accept is irrelevant, you privileged flog.
Go & give Stuphid a reach-around (I’m assuming you’re not the same person)

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 10:46 pm

that’s a very emotional outburst

it may seem that JC is being somewhat hypocritical here but truly one needs to understand that JC is so full of raw emotion and earnest intent that he really can’t do anything but spurt the ‘truth’

I mean, the things he gibbers may not be true in a didactic sense but they are certainly is true in terms of what the man is trying achieve.

if only you’d people could pause for a moment and try to peer through all the bluff, bluster and bullshit

… I think you’ll see that he really does have everybody’s best interests at heart

Dot
Dot
January 22, 2023 10:49 pm

https://www.sott.net/article/476514-Officially-approved-by-the-EU-Four-insects-hiding-in-your-food

(Original article is in German).

EU citizens who do not want to unknowingly eat insects should be particularly careful: The EU Commission has already approved four types of insects in different forms as “edible insects”.

The most recent approval was on January 5: From now on, after mealworms, grasshoppers and crickets, the grain mold beetle can also be used as an ingredient in foods such as bread, soups, pasta, snacks, peanut butter and chocolate products.

Comment:

“Aren’t they a SICK SET OF BASTARDS, turning field’s of edible food to wild flower meadows, blaming cows for killing our planet by farting, making out as if meat is bad for one and through the back door they now have legalised the consumption of tasteless, meatless insects, what a load of BOLLOCKS.”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I think you’ll see that he really does have everybody’s best interests at heart

He’s copping a reach-around from the Collins street C**t at the moment, this may calm down his smarting feelings somewhat.
Faceplanting is humiliating for him, that stenching pantyhose tripped over the same rake does not soften the blow to Stuphid’s nose.

Heh.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:50 pm

Your privilege is showing.

How woke of you, Drills. Check your privilege at the motel door. Is that how it goes? 🙂

I’m please for your free ride in life. Nic e that you ride in comfort while others work for a living.
Why though, denigrate those others?

That has zero to do with your bullshit story a tradie was working for a burger and chips. I don’t know how to categorize this trolling. It’s blowharding but not this alone. It’s a form of pity/blowhard trolling I think. Others could help categorizing too.

Moreover, if the tradie worked hard for the day, why did you underpay him? They call that wage theft in leftiland, you bonehead.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

That has zero to do with your bullshit story a tradie was working for a burger and chips.

I made no such claim, you bloody idiot.

That you & stenching pantyhose mocked someone’s misery, deeming it to be “chips & parmy” is obscene.

You have a free ride in life. You’ve never had to struggle. Why denigrate those who don’t have you free ride, & have to work for a living?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 10:53 pm

I have another question.
What level of disrespect would you have to have for your fellow working Australians than to pay a skilled tradie in bain marie dregs?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 10:56 pm

You have a free ride in life. You’ve never had to struggle. Why denigrate those who don’t have you free ride, & have to work for a living?

Oh stop it with the emotional nonsense, Driller. You’re not tugging at anyone’s apron strings with that nonsense. You spun an bullshit story again, laughed off the site and you’re upset. Big deal as it’s not as though bullshitting is new to you. You’re an old hand at it, but not very good as you always get caught.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 10:56 pm

JC:
Assuming Salvatore’s pub is at the beach
and there’s surf there
but the tide is out
they might as well go to work.

At least, that’s how it used to work on the [southern] Mornington Peninsula many moons ago.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 22, 2023 10:56 pm

Alice Springs youth worker Stella Newland says crime drove her out of the town

Youth worker Stella Newland was ready to build a life for herself in Alice Springs after spending four years in the Territory until the town’s crime crisis drove her interstate.

Ms Newland, 24, left Alice Springs a fortnight ago after the recent spike in crime left her unable to sleep and too scared to leave her home after dark.

“I stopped going out,” she said.

She said during one night out she was punched in the back of the head by a child who appeared to be less than 10 years old.

Other times, she witnessed people being punched, spat on and swung at by drunk adults and youths on a “daily basis”.

Ms Newland said crime had escalated so much in Alice Springs in the weeks before she made the drastic decision to up and leave, she had phoned triple-0 at least once a day to report kids wandering the streets armed with knives – a scenario which has become all too familiar to locals in recent weeks.

“You see it so much it’s like it’s normal, but it’s not,” Ms Newland said.

“I just kept reminding myself it’s not normal.”

Last year, NT Police deployed 45 additional cops to the desert town as part of Operation Drina, which was launched in November to reduce anti-social behaviour and associated crime in Alice Springs.

According to NT Police, more than 30 officers remained part of the operation, but locals said police numbers had dwindled so low crime was now worse than before their arrival.

“It’s like they don’t care,” Ms Newland said.

Break-ins had become such a regular occurrence in recent weeks, community members and leaders were calling for federal government support to address the crisis.

Over the weekend, the Central Australian Aboriginal Media Association’s Alice Springs office on Todd St was broken into for the fifth time in 12 months, sparking calls for more support.

“We are all victims in this town” the business wrote in a social media post with photos of the damage.

Ms Newland said the crime crisis was forcing essential workers like her to leave town and tarnishing its reputation.

“Alice has so much potential and it’s being burdened by the crime,” Ms Newland said.

In the end the decision to leave became about prioritising her own safety.

“Without the crime I would have stayed and I would have made a life there.

“But it destroyed me.”

NT News

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I called you a series of names, you privileged Melbourne morons. I was too kind to you.
You mock & belittle the hoplessness of the situation a couple of men found themselves in through no fault of their own.

Obscenely, you deem those blokes hardships to be “bullshit” & to have not happened.
Stupid & clueless pair of wankers you are.

Why didn’t you type all that at the time?
Pair of flogs.

You know nothing of Australia or the Australian worker.
Stay down in the town, you pair of Bourke street bushies.

cohenite
January 22, 2023 10:58 pm

What a conundrum: Yellowstone, 1923 or 1883. Which is the best. I’m leaning to 1923 for the African romance scenes.

Conversely Billions went right off the rails in season 5: woke and puerile.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:00 pm

I have another question.
What level of disrespect would you have to have for your fellow working Australians than to pay a skilled tradie in bain marie dregs?

There’s three dimmi there. Take one and I want to see two left after you’re gone.

Drills is so caring about worken men.

Hey drills remember pretending you were a big time CEO and all, and told us you fired the dude on the spot after he burnt your breakfast toast. You Boneheaded eggnog.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 11:01 pm

JC and sancho … youse still running with the premise that saving the forum from decline?

tossers

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Yep, Stuphid is really smarting at having faceplanted last night.
Stencho not so much, as probably too busy patting himself on the back for being the smartest person in the room (sort of a Malcolm Turnbull wannabe) to realise he faceplanted just as hard as Stuphid did.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:02 pm

Which is the best. I’m leaning to 1923 for the African romance scenes.

I preferred 1923 over 1883. I thought the latter had a weak story line. 1923 is pretty decent.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

JC and sancho … youse still running with the premise that saving the forum from decline?

Total mystery why they’re referred to as “trolls”
In the past week Stuphid has (in addition to his favourites) sworn at or belittled Pogria, Rockdoctor, & Top Ender.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Stencho assisted in the sneering at Top Ender – it won’t take much more of such siamese-twin attacks until nobody will believe anything but one is a sock puppet of the other.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:08 pm

In the past week Stuphid has (in addition to his favourites) sworn at or belittled Pogria, Rockdoctor, & Top Ender.

No I haven’t. I don’t believe I’ve ever spoken to Pogria. Any conversations with RockDoc and Ender have always been cordial because they’re nice sincere people- unlike you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 11:08 pm

Alice Springs youth worker Stella Newland says crime drove her out of the town

Some time ago, a group of the young fellas in an outback sh!thole roped the community nurse. Not surprisingly, she was on the next plane out of the place.
The elders were outraged – her refusal to stay was clearly based on racial grounds, and they wanted a replacement nurse, immediately, if not sooner…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

No I haven’t.

You could benefit from scrolling back.

I don’t believe I’ve ever spoken to Pogria.

It is possible to belittle or sneer at people without directly engaging them.
… or even realise it is them you’re sneering at.

You are an ill-mannered scum. (That is not in dispute)
Your urge to sneer at all & sundry gets you knocked flat in real life.
Hence you’re a keyboard blowhard.

May the rest of your year be as pleasant for you & your family as is your online persona.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 11:12 pm

worn at or belittled

but he means well

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:14 pm

twin attacks

Like pile-ons, yeah? You’re the worst pile on offender here you useless jackass. The occasional shoe is on the other foot and you’re squealing like a FNQ wild pig who’s just been shot in the rear. Listen to your squealing for being caught out bullshitting.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2023 11:17 pm

Daily Mail

Montecito bookstore reveals it has only sold 30 copies of Prince Harry’s autobiography Spare – despite the controversial book’s record-breaking sales

Prince Harry, 38, released his controversial autobiography Spare on January 10
Owner of Montecito’s Tecolote Book Shop has only sold 30 copies of the book
However, tome has had massive sales selling 750,000 copies in the UK in a week

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Listen to your squealing for being caught out bullshitting.

Yet nobody has ever caught me “bullshitting”.
For the very good reason that I don’t “bullshit”

You’re judging others by your own standards. (btw, doing that is a sign of a not very agile intellect, just sayin’)

Calm down you senile old goat, you’ll blow a gasket.
Don’t worry about faceplanting so hard last night.
Not as if it was your first time.
Nobody expects any better of you, it’s not as if you’ve a reputation for accuracy on here.

Now have a hot mug of Horlicks & lie down, before you blow a fuse.

Heh.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 11:21 pm

… prove me wrong

no takers?

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:22 pm

It is possible to belittle or sneer at people without directly engaging them.
… or even realise it is them you’re sneering at.

Oh that’s interesting. So I’m not sneering, but I was or is that the other way around? You moron.

You are an ill-mannered scum. (That is not in dispute)

What’s not in dispute is that you’re a fraud and with criminal tendencies. You’re a despicable blowhard.

Your urge to sneer at all & sundry gets you knocked flat in real life.

Really, by the likes of you right? Get off the fruit box dickhead. You don’t frighten anyone. You’re making these threats every other day now. Curious for someone claiming to have an unblemished police record.

May the rest of your year be as pleasant for you & your family as is your online persona.

Really, so you sticking pins in dolls now are you, you blowhard? I hope the same for you and yours too.

You lied got caught out and there is no remorse for a blowhard like you. None.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 22, 2023 11:22 pm

Salvatore:
Look, I know you don’t read my posts, but what work did these Tradies carry out at your establishment?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 11:23 pm

How do you work out the GST on pokie revenue?
It’s really, really hard.
We’re going to need Martin Armstrong’s self-aware compuda for this one.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… prove me wrong

After your request for wankers, both the Uptick whingers, Stencho & Shantastruth, chimed in to make a couple of posts to demonstrate they’re wankers.

It’s like you were tickling for fish, or perhaps waving doggie treats around.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 11:26 pm

People shit themselves when I walk into the room (especially Bananaby Joyce).
I am like a God.
Flux, the God of Soldering.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:27 pm

How do you work out the GST on pokie revenue?
It’s really, really hard.
We’re going to need Martin Armstrong’s self-aware compuda for this one.

Remember that? The freaking moron. I’m still uncertain if the bonehead really didn’t know how it’s worked out or was blowharding something terrible and ended up faceplanting into a pancake.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2023 11:27 pm

It’s like you were tickling for fish, or perhaps waving doggie treats around.

it’s a forum.
they’re both a bit mental
it’s just the way it is

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:31 pm

Driller

How low have you sunk when you having to invest in the Turtlehead and Trans to help you climb out of a hole. You can’t go any lower.

You bullshitted, got caught out and now look at you.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I posted that a couple of blokes came to see me, & made a serious offer to work for food.
This happened in the last week of March 2020, in the days after Scomo-Sunday.

Sancho & JC have spent the past 26 hours or so continuously shitposting this comment, stating that it is not true, belittling the plight those blokes were in, trotting out hypotheticals (“Why, I wouldn’t work someone without paying them full tote odds“) & a series of other “Let them eat cake” remarks.

They’re reframed it from “men” to one person. They’ve reframed it from “blokes” to a qualified tradesman. They’ve reframed it from the plight of people in remote areas to the generous options available to people in Melbourne & similar metropolitan locations.
They’ve reframed it, nay belittled & mocked, from “will work for food” to a stupid: “a few parmys, chips, stale bain marie scraps, out-of-date food & $10 chicken burgers”

From a position of great privilege & having faced no loss or threat of loss at lockdown, they’ve reframed it as “no big deal, there were plenty of jobs” (about blokes who’ve just lost their means of support)
They’ve reframed it from “just lost their means of support” to “There were shedloads of options & govt cash everywhere”

Pair of privileged snobs, bloody idiots. Sneering at the hopelessness & despair of working men, and even more sneering & belittling of those men’s efforts to survive the scomo-induced collapse of their support system.

Pair of unwiped arseholes. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. You disgust me.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

These are the sort of elitist Davos-man types who’re responsible for the bad name Victoria has in the rest of Australia.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:41 pm

Driller

You were bignoting yourself and the fact is none of your claims ever took place. Everything about you is disgusting. You’re just a despicable lump of human garbage and that will never change. Unfortunately, it comes from your family DNA. You lie all the time like the illbred criminal fraud you have always been.
You lied and got caught out, which is nothing new.

JC
JC
January 22, 2023 11:43 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
January 22, 2023 at 11:39 pm

These are the sort of elitist Davos-man types who’re responsible for the bad name Victoria has in the rest of Australia.

Even this exaggerated nonsense would count as blowharding.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 22, 2023 11:53 pm

Sal.
Take it easy champ.
If it helps, I believe that, in certain backward parts of the country, you can pay an air-con technician in sausages and mash.
I really do believe that.

JC
JC
January 23, 2023 12:00 am

He’s getting the tucker ready for the plumber coming around tomorrow.

Arky
January 23, 2023 12:24 am

A bit of history. Operation baby lift:

At Phu My Rosemary met a Swiss nurse who was involved in arranging the adoptions of a few orphan children into European families. Rosemary soon began helping with the adoptions by bringing the children ready to leave for Europe to Saigon from provincial orphanages, a challenging task due to the difficulty of finding transportation. When the Swiss nurse had to leave Vietnam at the end of 1967 she asked Rosemary to be responsible for the departure of several dozen children whose adoptions were still in progress. In her book “Orphans of War” (Collins, 1988) Rosemary Taylor told of her early months working with orphans in Vietnam:

By now I had visited a dozen other orphanages in Saigon and in the provinces and begun to appreciate the dimensions of the problem of abandoned and orphan children. Nothing in my previous experience or reading had prepared me for this. I was coming into contact with hundreds of newborn babies with no identity and no prospects. There were healthy and handicapped babies; the fully Vietnamese and the mixed-race; the legitimate and the illegitimate! Many of the orphanages were run by Vietnamese Catholic Sisters, who were mostly doing the best they could under the worst conditions in a situation that was never meant to be. The offspring of men arrive one at a time for a reason. These babies came by dozens each month to the already overcrowded orphanages. They were never the center of anyone’s universe and never received the nurturing warmth of parental love. They often lacked the minimum necessary to animal existence. How much more did they lack the affection and stimulation needed to promote their human development. My instinctive reaction was to resist this destruction of personality and work towards getting as many of these babies as possible into the mainstream of human development. To give them caring parents was the first step.”

..
https://www.adoptvietnam.org/adoption/babylift-rosemary.html
..
In the early 90s I was in a close relationship for quite some years with one of those airlifted babies, by then grown up and studying at uni.
I fear that the early deprivation of love and security has lifelong effects on humans.
Adopted by French parents and brought to Australia, a little piece of a terrible history.

Arky
January 23, 2023 12:45 am

As the political situation in Vietnam deteriorated during the early months of 1975, it became clear that an evacuation of children already assigned to overseas families, as well as of other adoptable children in FFAC care, would be necessary in order for the children to join their adoptive families. Rosemary later wrote of the tense situation that existed by the end of March 1975: “No one knew how much time we had before Saigon would fall. Some thought it might be six months, others not as long.”

There were now about 600 children under FFAC care in the four nurseries, including the remaining Cambodian refugees. The children were cared for in shifts by the 400 local staff and fifteen foreign staff nurses and administrators. Should the situation in Saigon deteriorate, the Vietnamese staff would be unable to report for work, and without them there would be no way in which the rest of us could cope. It would be physically impossible to transport so many children to the airport or to the helicopter pick-up points in the event of an emergency evacuation. The radio newscasts on Easter Sunday were reporting the panic in Danang and the clogging of all circulation; it could be much worse in Saigon: “No one considered leaving the children behind…

FFAC staff in Vietnam and Colorado tried in vain to charter a plane for the evacuation, contacting Pan Am and other airlines. On April 4 a call came from USAID in Vietnam, notifying FFAC that the US had authorized transportation for the Vietnamese orphans scheduled to leave Saigon and offering a US military C-5A departing that afternoon. Space for 230 children was offered…

Tragically the C-5A crashed within minutes of take-off. Seventy-eight children died and ten were hospitalized. Of the eight FFAC staff who had accompanied the children, only one nurse survived. Among those who perished was Margaret Moses, Rosemary’s friend from their school days in Australia who had left her position with the education department in 1971 to heed Rosemary’s plea to come to Vietnam to assist her in running the nurseries

2dogs
January 23, 2023 1:09 am

This situation makes sense if you accept that Trump had, in fact, declassified his documents, while Biden’s documents were not declassified.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 23, 2023 1:43 am

Oh look another evening of pointless stoushing.

rickw
rickw
January 23, 2023 1:54 am

Greg’s Airplanes, British WWII tech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlNz53TBpk

rosie
rosie
January 23, 2023 2:20 am

More travel as I resist the temptation to sleep.
I rode the funicular, sleek, modern and enclosed in a tunnel so not the fun the Lisbon ones are.
To my surprise when we reached the top the sky had completely cleared and I was immediately lamenting my lack of sunglasses.
I followed my feet higher and higher (mostly up escalators) to Castel Sant’Elmo which was well worth the €5 cash only entry fee for a 360 degree walk around the rampants and magnificent views of the bay of Naples. It’s an easy walk up inside the castle too as it is ramps built to accommodate horse and wagon.
I spotted the Galleria Umberto I from the top, near the New Castle I so that will be my main port of call tomorrow, unless distracted by something else.
Back down to the Intesa Sanpaulo gallery which is one of a number of galleries in Italy where the bank displays to the public a selection of the 35,000 works in their collection.
There is currently a special exhibition of the works of Artemisia Gentileschi, whom I remember being discussed here as a rare female Old Master. They have a Carravaggio and several other nice works, including some art from Pompeii, was a pleasant way to spend an afternoon. I freely admit to racing through the 20th Century collection and still lifes.
Back out on Via Toledo (in the gallery there was an 19th artwork of Via Toledo in the rain that pleased me too) the street vendors had put away their l’ombrellos and were back to selling fake Gucci, phone covers and junky toys. I don’t envy them one bit.

rickw
rickw
January 23, 2023 2:32 am

“My dad and Nathaniel, they were out the front and both shot dead and then mum was trying to get out the back, it said she was armed but mum didn’t like guns so I don’t know what she was armed with,” Madelyn said.
“But the police said it was a gun so I trust the police.
“She didn’t make it through the back door, she died right by the back door.”

This is from a Channel 9 interview with Stacey Trains daughter.

My guess is that any bodycam footage with Stacey Train in it will never see the light of day.

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