Andromache mourning Hector, Jacques Louis David, 1783
I wasn’t impressed. If they had spent less on the flash packaging and more on the whisky, then I would…
Andromache mourning Hector, Jacques Louis David, 1783
I wasn’t impressed. If they had spent less on the flash packaging and more on the whisky, then I would…
Sadly I missed it with my children, they were not interested but we had a jolly good time when I…
More of British. Love it or hate it. Yum. Pork pies.
Nostalgic Brits reminiscing. Picture, As we were not so long ago. some of the comments; “Powell tried to warn us,…
Oh dear turkeys and chickens coming home to roost — looks like Labor has a woman problem and BTW so…
Black Ballsays:
January 25, 2023 at 1:34 pm
‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’
The only people I know who are White are Albinos. Being Caucasian, a person’s skin is white/pinky/pale. And the only Black skinned people I have ever seen have come up from an underground Coal Mine or have come down from a coal fire chimney. Otherwise, every one is the same colour on the inside.
And short skirts with frilly knickers.
Tennising ladies usually have very nice legs.
Short sighted.
Pub chain sacks 700 workers to avoid Australia Day penalty rates
Hospitality giant Mantle Group has fired all of its casual employees and rehired them under a new agreement that ensures it does not have to pay them penalty rates on Australia Day.
Just 10 days after winning full penalty rates for the first time in 22 years, Mantle’s workforce of up to 700 casuals across 15 venues were handed termination notices on Monday.
Mantle immediately rehired the workers through a different entity with an agreement struck in 2019 that does not pay any weekend penalty rates.
While the agreement pays public holiday rates at 225 per cent, Mantle’s job offer includes a blanket clause saying the employee agrees to work all public holidays, without penalty rates, and to swap them for other days decided by the company.
‘Harold Holt volunteered…but I don’t think he went overseas.’ He tried it once but never got another go.
Hmm by that logic isn’t Albo also a whitey? But I guess the Voice will fix that.
“never, ever, trust anybody else
’s wiring“FIFY.
Was doing some 240 wiring once and asked “Is this dead?”
“Yeah, all the 240 in the room is dead” was the reply.
As is my wont, before I proceeded to strip it, I banging the bare end against a rack screw.
Blew a 2mm hole in the top of said screw and also blew a 60A HRC fuse.
“Well, it is now” says I.
‘The community will probably note that here we are asking you, a white Police Commissioner, his thoughts. Do you understand how some people might bristle at that whole situation?’
From a bloke who owes his reputation & well paid position to his ethnicity .. FFS!
Johnny and maybe Sid co write a song with Frank Ifield – I remember you, c**t.
Hmm by that logic isn’t Albo also a whitey? But I guess the Voice will fix that.
No, as ‘Albo’ is everything to everyone……………….’I was brought up in a Housing Commission place by a Single Mum’…………………..BTW. No one else ever has. He is the only one in the World. ‘Sarc’
How’s being woke going for ya Qantarse?
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/qantas/qantas-flight-to-kalgoorlie-from-perth-turned-around-the-seventh-in-seven-days-to-experience-mechanical-issues-c-9553491
Lidia Thorpe, 15/16th non- indigenous….
Tennis Australia ticking off the next box of wokedom:
Indian tech giant Infosys is in its fifth year of a partnership with the Australian Open, and fresh from raising its global revenue and sales forecasts – and renewing its tennis partnership until 2026 – the company has a new focus: helping the Open achieve net-zero carbon emissions by 2030.
Infosys has collaborated with Tennis Australia on a new prototype digital platform dubbed Engage, which it says will help Tennis Australia achieve a 50 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030 and net-zero by 2040, in accordance with the UN Sports for Climate Change Action Framework.
The platform will enable better transparency for each Australian Open event from 2023 onwards, across Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions, he said.
“It’s a big priority for us. We’ve been carbon-neutral as an organisation ourselves for a number of years, it’s something we’re really proud of, especially we’re a big global organisation of about 300,000 people,” Mr Groth said.
“Having been through that journey ourselves it’s something that we’re then able to help our customers and our partners go through, and we’ve created this platform for the Australian Open that will be base lining this year, and fully functioning next year. It’s about measuring the Open’s emissions, the partners’ emissions, and then helping with what actions need to be taken to be carbon-neutral by 2040.
“It’s a really important piece of work we’ve got with them.”
Along with the new climate focus, Infosys is providing players at the Open with new AI-generated videos including game and competitor insights, along with ‘Get into the Zone’, a feature that plays video montages of the player’s previous exceptional performances to put them in the winning mindset before the match.
Fans have access to new insights and experiences too through Match Centre 2.0, a feature on the AO website and mobile app that includes features such as AI commentary and rally analysis, as well as real-time predictions of match outcomes.
The multinational company, which provides business consulting, IT and outsourcing services, this month raised its annual sales forecast, and said it was bullish on large clients’ need to cut costs and automate their systems.
“Working with Infosys over the past five years has enabled us to set new benchmarks in fan engagement using digital technologies,” Australian Open chief executive Craig Tiley said.
“This partnership has enabled us to deliver new innovative digital experiences year after year for everyone associated with the tournament. We are also going deeper and wider in our journey this year with truly meaningful use of technology for climate action.
“We remain committed to making the Australian Open a global standard for a digitally-enabled sport that is inspiring, engaging, inclusive and sustainable.”
Interesting thread on casualty estimates:
That doesn’t include the local militias which are likely to be twice that.
Johnny and maybe Sid co write a song with Frank Ifield – I remember you, c**t.
Frank wants to to do it but he is under contract. If that is what what you meant by c**t, only you didn’t leave enough spaces for the letters in the word contract. Are you a ‘preffessor’ of English in ‘Ocker’ per chance? Or just a T.W.A.T.?
One more sporting item from me before I head for a Carlton Draught preceding the commencement of social bowls, the ICC Test XI of 2022. Note who is captain, and who isn’t.
1 Usman Khawaja (Aus)
2 Kraigg Brathwaite (WI)
3 Marnus Labuschagne (Aus)
4 Babar Azam (Pak)
5 Jonny Bairstow (Eng)
6 Ben Stokes (c) (Eng)
7 Rishabh Pant (wk) (Ind)
8 Pat Cummins (Aus)
9 Kagiso Rabada (SA)
10 Nathan Lyon (Aus)
11 James Anderson (Eng)
That doesn’t include the local militias which are likely to be twice that.
By all accounts, the UKR have lost at least 100,000 plus dead. Then a lot more injured and maimed. They cannot sustain those losses. Russia can with a larger population. Game over soon.
Regarding casualties.
It’s amazing how for almost 12 months they’ve been able to keep a lid on any footage of wounded soldiers.
These guy go home at some stage & you’d imagine someone with a phone would video something for social media.
But there’s been nothing from anyone.
what are we talking about? plastic bags over the heads of players?
i wonder does it include emissions of those who drove in for the tennis?
how about those who flew across the globe?
what about all the televisions turned on watching it?
Tennis Australia has turned into little more than a wank-fest
how about those who flew across the globe?
There should be a video wall at the venue showing the carbon footprint of those involved.
Not so much now but there was plenty at the start.
Good. Very good.
Mr Rotten at 1:39 pm
a recent letter (shown to me this month) from a government body quotes a “CPI of 3.6% as determined by the ABS”
“We remain committed to making the Australian Open a global standard for a digitally-enabled sport that is inspiring, engaging, inclusive and sustainable.”
Meanwhile, all of the spectators and sportspeople and admin people and anyone else breathes out CO2. And to get to the Australian Open, the Overseas players and others have to fly in on Aeroplanes that belch out CO2 to get to Melbourne. Let alone the local players who live around Australia and need to get to Melbourne.
When confronted with this, Tennis Elbow Australia were unavailable for any comment. I wonder why?
My father trained at Pukka in the 2/4th Field Regiment (artillery) circa 1940. As they were leaving Pukka, my father told me, there was a somewhat dejected-looking solitary man waving to the Unit as it departed. My Dad asked his fellow gunners who was that man and why was he remaining behind. Dad was told “That’s Harold Holt – he’s a politician”.
Davey Boysays:
January 25, 2023 at 2:26 pm
Mr Rotten at 1:39 pm
a recent letter (shown to me this month) from a government body quotes a “CPI of 3.6% as determined by the ABS”
Lies, Damned Lies and and Statistics. Could be Mark Twain………………………..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
Tucker: You should be mad about this
No one thought Putin would solve the culture wars at home.
You’re not on Telegram, ftb?
Not on Telegram.
Lots of Ukraine content?
After a while, all social media platforms evolve into just pretty ladies & dogs.
According to social media, 95% of the global dog population are golden retrievers.
So, he became a midget sub commander.
The truth had to come out eventually.
Total mystery why.
Once the war in Ukraine ends, their biggest issue will be the depopulation that they’ve experienced.
If 10% of your population has left & you already had a declining birth rate, what do you do?
Maybe NATO will explore Operation Keelhaul 2.0.
Perhaps Dover , a poor choose of words on dots part.
But plenty of people expressed that the west deserved to be beaten because of its current social trajectory.
Daily Mail
Naw, poor Fang Fang.
I reckon a similar amount of people who were Rootin’ for Putin were tearing up at Penn giving Zelensky the Oscar.
Ie, small segments from different parts of the global population.
Yes and no. You can be arrested for showing footage of areas under attack in Ukraine, etc. which is likely to effect morale but you do nevertheless see footage. I’ve seen a number of videos of Ukrainian cemeteries filled with flags on individual plots.
LOL!!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-25/classified-documents-found-mike-pence-home/101889568
There was a stabbing in Coles, while the Three Blind Mice were in town?
Which poses the question, how does evolution work?
A single mutation that causes a change in species to be born, who does it mate with? If it mates with the older species, its progeny are unlikely to be fertile.
While decisions for what the Alice needs were being made in Darwin & Canberra, to close bottle shops except for 4 hrs of an afternoon 5 days of the week, & the Three Blind Mice, plus the Chief Minister of
Darwiner… NT, did any of the skilled investigative journalists at the press conference ask Anal how many of the offenders making life hell in The Alice were aged 18+?Y’know, old enough to buy takeaway plonk?
Indubitably, bern.
feelthebern says:
January 25, 2023 at 2:47 pm
Once the war in Ukraine ends, their biggest issue will be the depopulation that they’ve experienced. If 10% of your population has left & you already had a declining birth rate, what do you do?
Various reports, including (surprisingly) those via the MSM have commented that some 20% of the population have decamped to Europe and elsewhere. That equates to approximately 8m people. When this conflict is eventually over it remains to be seen whether that is true but the longer it goes on, I suggest that fewer and fewer will return. They will have made ‘new lives’ in their adopted country and unless they have significant (undamaged) UKR holdings, why would they return? Especially those who have relocated overseas – the effort and cost to move back will be substantial.
Someone was asking about fetal alcohol.
Its massive- a proper genocide if you want to use an emotive term..
NT apparently doesnt have stats on possible prevalence, WA does.
https://alcoholpregnancy.telethonkids.org.au/siteassets/media-docs—alcohol-preg-fasd/environmental-scan_alice-springs_final.pdf
FASD prevalence has been ascertained at 194 per 1000 among school-aged Aboriginal children in the Kimberley (Fitzpatrick et al., 2017), and 360 per 1000 among juveniles in detention in Western Australia (Bower et al., 2018). These rates are among the highest in the world.
…
The prevalence of FASD in the NT (and nationally) is currently unknown, as no prevalence studies have been conducted. However, the NT Government reports that anecdotally, there is an understanding that many NT children are experiencing learning difficulties, have difficulty controlling their emotions and impulses
Basically a kid with FASD is destined to end up in jail unless they have a supportive network around them to protect them from bad influences and exploiters.
Which poses the question, how does evolution work?
A single mutation that causes a change in species to be born, who does it mate with? If it mates with the older species, its progeny are unlikely to be fertile.
As I understand it “species” is a far fuzzier concept than used to be thought.
The f*cking idiots went with re-branding the Australian Open “The Grand Slam of the Asia Pacific”.
Opening up the possibility that it could be re-located to anywhere from Seoul to Mumbai. As if any other location could be granted “Grand Slam” status or, even if it was, it would be accepted by tennis fans.
Eventually all field sports end up looking like basketball. That is what makes golf so great – and why so many sportsmen take it up after they cease the need to make a living.
Following in the footsteps of the esteemed frollickingmole, I present you this, not sure Chad Caddington makes an appearance, Daily Telegraph:
Former high-profile escort Amanda Goff has told how “dating d—heads” and being ghosted by men prompted her to ditch her media career and become a full-time sex worker.
Ms Goff, formerly known as Samantha X, has opened up about her past in a candid interview with Detective Inspector (retd) Gary Jubelin for his I Catch Killers podcast series.
In part one of their interview, the 48-year-old mother of two revealed how her disillusionment with the “tiring” dating scene eventually led to her working at a Sydney brothel.
She also told how a brutal sexual assault by a client forced her to temporarily leave the industry and how being a sex worker made her feel like she had “power” over men.
Unable to cope with her “suffocating” life, Ms Goff split from her long-term partner in her late 30s.
She had long been intrigued by the sex industry and when a man she was dating told her “you’d make a very good sex worker”, she decided to take the plunge.
“I just thought ‘f— you, that’s what I’m going to do’.
“I remember thinking this is the right time to do it.
“I just thought, really, I’m too old to be messed around by men.”
Ms Goff said she wanted to “capitalise” on her power over men.
When asked by Mr Jubelin what it was about the sex industry that “intrigued” her, the London-born Ms Goff said her fascination stemmed from her teenage years.
The daughter of a wealthy businessman, she had a privileged childhood in the posh suburb of Wimbledon.
“As a family, we used to go to the South of France for summers and I used to see sex workers on the streets.
“In the eyes of a young girl, they used to seem so glamorous — that intrigued me.”
After moving to Sydney to work as a journalist, a visit to a Kings Cross strip club for an article she was working on flicked a switch inside her.
“I went backstage at Kings Cross and these women were just so powerful and smart and sassy and strong.
“And they were older — they weren’t 19-year-olds, they were mums, they were studying, they were lawyers.”
Ms Goff said the incident left her “like a moth to a light”.
In her two books, which she said she wrote to clear up “misconceptions” about the sex industry, Ms Goff told how she initially led a double life by working at a boutique brothel in North Sydney while maintaining her real job.
“I dipped my toe in – and from day one, I was hooked,” she told the podcast.
She refers to her first client as “Mr Bean” and said the experience was life-changing.
“Some nerdy, normal bloke — you know, 30-second sex and an hour-and-a half conversation. and I go home with $100 bills,” she told Mr Jubelin.
Another client was not interested in sex and just wanted to sit on the bed with her and watch sport on the TV.
There has, however, been dark times, including her alleged sexual assault by a married customer.
“I was sexually assaulted and sex workers can get sexually assaulted, as you know,” she told the podcast.
“It wasn’t so much the assault that upset me, it was the fact that I was sacked afterwards.
“It’s the only job I’ve been sacked from and it really upset me.”
Jubelin said the client was a “a pig of a human being”.
“You were injured and you were outraged by it and quite rightly so.”
Ms Goff praised the police for their efforts in locating the man.
The attack forced her to return to her “normal life” but she just “couldn’t do it.”
“I thought, you know what, I’m going to be more powerful and more successful and I created this woman called Samantha.
“I rented a really beautiful waterside unit in the city, I tripled my prices and that journey began.”
German companies have been helping the Mullahs for some time now. If I were nasty I could insinuate that it’s their Jew hatred by proxy but since I’m not nasty I won’t.
The retirement of the Williams sisters has got to help.
“Winning” the Brisbane Olympics suggests most developed nations recognise the value of holding major sporting events.
Cos Indonesia is more accommodating?
It would seem normal is not how I’d always believed it to be.
Bruce O’Newk:
Just like Rudds apology. Not one more Aboriginal child woke up to a decent breakfast, a clean school uniform, and a cut lunch the next day. But Rudd got plenty of plaudits for his ‘bravery’ and ‘determination’.
Bastard ineffective, gutless, and mendacious politicians, and the filth that hangs on to the gravy train.
No.
They’re serious. My sister showed me a gardening book by Millie Ross of the ABC at a late Christmas gathering.
Yep, pay the rent is in there. Why TF is this in here, I thought to myself?
Pay the rent & reserved seats to an unofficial third chamber of Parliament.
We will unwittingly create a race based aristocracy and it will never be enough. Whites will also have to continually apologise for their existence.
My forbears permanently abolished serfdom in 1574; thanks Queen Lizzie.
That equates to approximately 8m people.
It’s somewhere between 4m & 8m.
No one really knows or is willing to tell.
Considering the wage gap between what you can earn in other European nations & Ukraine, why would you go back.
Professional golf has the same issue, predominantly with the balls. Less of an issue for suburban hackers as I can attest.
FTFY.
Gardening Australia has always been a hotbed of ALPBC hive types.
Only the needy.
Not all.
Interesting that Major League Baseball still requires wooden bats. The PGA is lead around by the nose by the equipment manufacturers and the R&A just follows.
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
January 25, 2023 at 2:06 pm
No. The part-indigenous should pay their rent in proportion to their non-indigenous ancestry. That would focus some tiny minds.
Lidia Thorpe, 15/16th non- indigenous….
Don’t indigenous “activists” often allege that many of the relationships were non-consensual? If so, should there be an additional penalty payment by those less than fully indigenous?
There is a race on LinkedIn to be the most virtuous about working tomorrow.
Dovetailed nicely into support for The Voice.
Well done corporate Australia.
Something that wasn’t on your radar a couple of months back has somehow turned into your life’s mission.
On the issue of Ukrainian population decline, I searched a few statistics and on average, the population of Ukraine has declined by approximately 470k people per year since 1994. In 1994, the population of Ukraine was ~51m but by 2021 had fallen to ~43m. Now, the population is around 36m being 7m less than the pre-conflict number.
Unsurprisingly, as a consequence of overall population decline the live birth rate was also in serious deficit being an average of ~250k fewer births than annual deaths. This suggests that those leaving UKR consisted of a significant percentage of ‘breeding age’ females.
It appears that UKR was in trouble with serious population decline well before the conflict began.
Lysandersays:
January 25, 2023 at 2:57 pm
Mike Pence taking one for the Democrat team!
Mantaray – I read your posts on Jo Nova & am a fan of your perception and common sense.
However, in spite of your greater acquaintance with contemporary Aboriginal folk ( although I do claim more acquaintance than the average person), I must protest the inevitability suggested by your assessment of Aboriginal IQ…viz Jacinta Price and her mum (just as an example) and many many others.
The human brain is not limited by its seeming genetic pool. It is the training and education of that amazing pool of neural connections that produces greater than the sum, in my humble opinion.
And now I will be truly controversial and bring much criticism – I think Noel Pearson, in spite of his recent extreme statement, to possess one of the greater intellects in this land. He was the son of hard working parents and was educated by the Lutherans, I recall, and is a case in point.
Burney believes Indigenous voice would have prevented Alice Springs crisis
Laugh out loud headline of the day so far.
Gotta had it to Linda .. been sucking on the public trough for ever with very little (ha ha!) profile and suddenly (like death!) she’s found VOICE .. nothing worse than a professional trougher not only believing but vocalizing for public relevance ..!
Save that stuff for the car park.
And, as I said yesterday, if you take the day off, expect a bit of heat from the HR spiky hairs afterwards.
Oh, and how many virtue signalers will clock on from home?
Well ChatGPT and I are no longer on speaking terms after I tried to convince it that their ABC didn’t have a single conservative presenter on any of its shows.
It kept saying “it is a large organisation” and “it had a variety of views.” Also that bias is “in the eye of the beholder.” I managed to get it to concede that some reviews had found it had a small l liberal bias but it said “this was not representative of the broader organisation which has a robust complaints process” **rolls eyes**
Obviously gotta long way to go ChatGPT! But, delving into my conspiratorial mode -> This is what the future holds. You won’t be debating people in the future. You’ll be debating robots who are smarter than any human who has ever lived yet who refuse to concede. And there will be nothing you can do about it.
Albo may have picked up the Green preferences but they are no friend to the Liars.
Boambee John:
…and at a time when the casualty rate amongst junior leaders was greater than 80% (IIRC).
..
Like a libertarian, only smart then?
“Winning” the Brisbane Olympics suggests most developed nations recognise the value of holding major sporting events.
yep, not so much Brizzie winning as no one else interested .. hosting the Olympics is more of a “come in spinner” exercise these days than a “prize” … LOL!
Winning the olympics is such a massively obvious method of lining the pockets of politicians and their mates that even the most corrupt of third world s-holes think it’s a bit brazen.
I remember watching Greg Norman about the time metal “woods” were coming into the game. Before 460cc drivers, hitting one “off the screws” paid real dividends.
Back in the peace and sanity of my own home after spending waaaaay too much time with family. Not my kids who are sensible on most issues, but the extended family.
WWIII almost broke out last night – the electrical storm overhead was nothing compared to the fireworks between The Beloved and his sister. She’s nearly 70 and shamelessly Woke, much to his amusement. There is no popular cause that she will not support. A multitude of science degrees, she is the edumacational antithesis of her brother, who is your quintessential realist and number cruncher (and also an inveterate stirrer).
Climate Change (natch) was the subject. Well. We are all going to die of Heat. The 412ppm of atmospheric CO2 will kill us. Now, that scary figure as a percentage, quips he…not so much. And on and on it went until the appeal to authority – Columbia Climate School. Oh, the butcher is recommending the chops today? He ran the figures on EVs and also using EVs as a magical household battery…completely over her head, as well as emissions generated by various forms of renewable apparatus and delivery systems vs using and beefing up existing infrastructure.
She looked as if he had bitten off a puppy’s head. He had mansplained her into shocked silence…so he stopped.
Then we got down to the important stuff…Cointreau on ice and international travel. Apparently they don’t emit any earth-warming carbins so can be indulged in without remorse.
Bewdiful.
Lol Arky! I was more thinking of Munted. 😛
However, ChatGPT was most infuriating on the point of bias at the ABC as it thinks it’s the smartest thing ever and it won’t concede what it has been programmed to not concede.
Winning the olympics is such a massively obvious method of lining the pockets of politicians and their mates that even the most corrupt of third world s-holes think it’s a bit brazen.
Lock in Peter Beattie.
My memory might be off but I believe the Covid Commander Jerome Weimar is holding the reins of the Commonwealth Games in Victoriastan
He can use a kryptonite driver for all I care, just no more “tasteful nude photo shoots”.
Johnny Rotten:
When you start paying blackmail, the demands never stop.
Currently the blackmail is B30+ per year.
When will the demands stop? Well, that’s a simple one answered by anyone who studies history – they don’t.
Apparently they don’t emit any earth-warming carbins so can be indulged in without remorse.
Funny that. Tis the same with my brother and his wife. Their son, my nephew, is here for a gap year before he returns to the UK, he’s getting educated from his non-woke family. He’s actually remarkably open minded about us, the non-woke family.
Well I will concede that ChatCPT does know about UWA’s first-ever free market Economics Professor, Ed Shann. And it did also concede that his frosty relationship with (market interventionist) Professor Winthrop may have contributed to his suicide…
Amazing history of WA in how Prof Winthrop conspired with drunkard Curtin during the Depression and how Shann’s theories and solutions were cut off…
…total seque sorry…
Like so many over educated and overqualified people she is certain regardless of her own expert knowledge. She was unable to grasp the sleight of hand presented by the Snowy 2.0 scheme for instance.
But worse, far worse in my opinion, was the reliance on future knowledge and technologic advancement without regard to the realities presented right now. It reminded me of the John Frum cult, waiting starving on the shore for some mythical ship bringing good things from afar rather than shifting for yourself. This time the saviour will be someone in a lab coat finding a way to circumvent the laws of thermodynamics.
It really was that weird.
I have an heirloom – my great grandad’s putter. Wooden head, leather grip and bamboo or reed shaft. He was a good golfer, but sadly I only got a tiny bit of golfing DNA handed down. I have no idea how you could build a driver in those days that wouldn’t immediately snap.
I played squash many years (just as badly). Wooden catgut strung squash racquets were fun when they broke, which was often given all the concrete walls. They’d turn into strange and exotic works of art.
One of our contract IT developers (SQL Server expert) is an ex Ukrainian of Russian descent. He made his home in Australia with his Ukrainian wife (Transfer Pricing expert) about 10 years ago. His intention of going back was nil before the Ukrainian war and is now probably in negative territory. Australia is their home now.
Thankfully the Instagram algorithms take of this for me. Only Russian bikini models here.
The only ex-polly who I think either ALP or LNP will touch for an Olympics gig is Campbell Newman. That is man still has a giant stench about him in Queensland.
Cricket is another sport where the equipment has become ridiculous.
Mishit shots going for six from a giant bat.
I dipped my toe in – and from day one, I was hooked
U R doing it wrong.
“touch” or “torch”. If even Peter Beattie passes it must be a real stinker.
To a great many nominally educated ppl, science and technology are magic. The scientists and engineers will produce whatever politicians tell them to, almost immediately.
Mobile phones are proof of this.
Doverbeach:
I strongly suspect that if Putin were to use a 50kt weapon against Kiev, with a further demand for Ukrainian forces to pull back to the Dnieper River, with a demilitarised zone around the city, the West would cave quickly.
Boris isn’t going to sacrifice London for Kiev, and Biden won’t sacrifice New York for the same reason.
Why? Both are centres of the corruption that he believes is threatening him.
Speedbox, what’s the pop of the annexed territories? Also, the majority of the pop outside of Kiev is in east and south. If more of them are occupied, it would be even worse.
Well, mummy was Finnish, so it’s only a matter of time before Greg identifies as a Russian bikini model.
Anything for the attention.
Sancho – well that will require a work around. Any suggestions?
https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-driving/driver-training-and-licences/resources/nsw-double-demerits
Jesus H Cristo….grrrrrrrrr (foaming at the mouth intensifies)
Five days of Double Demerits over Australia Day long weekend
As they say in the third chamber of Parliament: Ya farken white fascist dawgs!
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We advise motorists that double demerits are in place in NSW and the ACT for 5 days over the Australia Day long weekend from Wednesday, 25 January until Sunday, 29 January inclusive.
Please be aware that on Friday 27 January 2023, school zones will be in operation. Drivers are reminded additional penalties can apply for certain offences committed in school zones.
Double demerit periods typically fall during holiday periods or over long weekends. They run from midnight on the start date to midnight on the finish date and are enforced by police. Please drive safely and take extra care on the roads to protect yourself, your loved ones and all road users.
What offences attract double demerits?
During double demerit periods, double demerit points apply for speeding, illegal use of mobile phones, not wearing a seat belt and riding without a motorcycle helmet.
Keep in mind that Mobile Phone Detection Cameras are active in NSW and the ACT and drivers caught using their phones during a double demerit period will be hit with a $352 fine ($469 in a school zone) and 10 demerits.
Certain driving and parking offences attract an additional demerit point if committed in an operating school zone. Remember to always drive with care and attention through school zones. Be aware that failing to do so can come with heavy penalties.
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What a country.
Bear Necessities says:
January 25, 2023 at 4:10 pm
There are quite a few Ukrainians in Australia and they (like Russians) have been coming here for decades.
This past New Years Eve I was at a private party* and one of the other guests was a Ukrainian woman. We chatted briefly and she told me she was new to Australia. I asked what she thought and she said she loved it. Most tellingly, she also said “this is my home now”. This woman was about 35, single with no kids. (She left the party later to travel to the city for NYE celebrations at a nightclub – I presume to also scout for a potential partner).
Separately, at my youngest daughters gym club, there are two young Ukrainian families consisting of 2 adults and either one or two young (4-7 y/o) children. Both families recently arrived on humanitarian visas.
I acknowledge these are insignificant numbers (total 8 persons) but this is just in my small orbit and the adults are prime age breeding/working stock with young primary school age children. That is at least 8 persons who will never return to Ukraine to live and this is being replicate all over Australia and the world.
(no, I have no idea how the men got out of Ukraine – they may have left very early in the conflict or, otherwise ‘found a way out’ in the traditional Ukrainian manner.)
*The host was Russian and there were lots of Russians present. No animosity.
hosting the Olympics is more of a “come in spinner” exercise these days than a “prize” … LOL!
The Chook couldn’t wait for “the Prize”.
Try a refined search …
Russian bikini model (no massive flogs).
Haven’t played any Greg Norman courses. We got a few Robert Trent Jones Jr ones out West in the 80s. Joondalup is (was) good for a laugh every couple of years. Wouldn’t want to play it every week.
Boris isn’t going to sacrifice London for Kiev, and Biden won’t sacrifice New York for the same reason.
Why? Both are centres of the corruption that he believes is threatening him.
If Vlad nukes Washington, District of Corruption more than half of America would cheer.
Not sure what the purpose of your search is then sir.
From the very Pro-Ukrainian APSI Institute:
Russia, and Russians, would become the most hated people on Earth. The effect upon Russia’s economy would be disastrous. The place would be regarded like North Korea only worse. Russian expatriates would be arrested and held. Russian oligarchs and businesses would be denuded of all assets. There would be no succour or favour given to anything Russian. They’d be pariahs for a century.
And the Ukrainians would fight with rifles, then knives, then teeth. There would be no peace, only a devastation, and it would spill over into Russia proper too. The experience of the West in Afghanistan shows what asymmetrical force can do, if it’s pissed off enough.
The ASPI article reads like horseshit modified by wishful thing and whistling past the graveyard.
Santo Albo of Grayndler, during the April/May 2022 election campaign, copied the Joe Biden template from 2020. Maybe not exactly, but he and Labor used it, quite effectively. If Santo Albo wasn’t hiding from the media, he was running away from the media when they had the audacity to ask a curly question during the election campaign. Since the election last May, he’s been lucky to have a grovelling MSM who’ve treated him with kid gloves.
However, that’s changed and there’s been a turning point over the last week, firstly with the Ben Forham train wreck interview on 2GB and then with the mayhem and all round havoc in Alice. Whilst Santo Albo tried his shtick of hiding/running, it hasn’t worked and he’s been forced to deal with the situation. Leading a pack of other blind mice, he made the pilgrimage to Alice yesterday to basically concede that the alcohol ban was a good thing and even he, the great progressive, is now conceding that there must be a total alcohol ban. In other words, after two decades, he’s been forced to concede that Howard’s intervention and the Coalition’s policies were right, not that you’d ever hear him say that.
Cassie Of Sydney:
I also noted the unshaven faggot to her Left giving the camera the “I’m rooly tough” look.
Would it kill some of these people to forget their fashion affectations for just one day?
14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.
I played Cape Kidnappers in New Zulland a few years ago.
Man oh, man.
On a lot of holes it was (a) fairway or (b) Pacific Ocean.
Went through a box of balls, but what speccy views.
I am helping Bear filter out unwanted nekked Greg Norman pics.
Well, I assume they are unwanted.
“Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer’s wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
As three blind mice?
A very appropriate nursery rhyme to describe the three blind mice who flew to Alice Springs yesterday, Albanese, Burney and Dodson.
They look more like rats to me.
Big, sleek, unpleasant ones.
Zipster:
Pence, a crook?
The man who accepted State voting results that were corrupt and enabling the Democrats to form a government that has been a catastrophe for the US?
That Pence?
dover0beach says:
January 25, 2023 at 4:36 pm
what’s the pop of the annexed territories? Also, the majority of the pop outside of Kiev is in east and south. If more of them are occupied, it would be even worse.
Indeed. Some of the data is old and not entirely reliable. The numbers get even more difficult to pin down the closer to you go to the Dnieper river because this includes portions of neighbouring oblasts. But a fair, if conservative, assessment is probably about 10-11 million (inc Crimea).
The other issue for Ukraine is the natural wealth of the area. Good land, mineral rich……which means jobs and broader prosperity for the country. So, not just the loss of people, but the loss of national ‘assets’. Remember that all of Ukraine could easily fit inside NSW (Ukraine 603k sq/km vs NSW 801k sq/km).
Remember this one? 😀
All on your dollar…
I don’t think they’ve completed a census in more than 2 decades.
Unfortunately I don’t have as access to a First Nations library as there are no caves nearby. Perhaps somebody can check their First Nations history references.
Are there any known instances of a larger tribe entering land and settling there with a few occasional dust ups with the smaller mob who were there first? Or was it all fields of sunflowers and skies filled with rainbows and flying unicorns?
Hmmm, sounds like another Venn diagram is required. They’re pretty useful.
Meanwhile, Lidia Thorpe tackles the issues that really, really matter…….
Good spot for a honeymoon if you can get away with it.
Speedster: One of my cousins is in the game of smoothing the arrival for Ukrainian refugees. He deals with several couples & young families.
All of them are white collar types who were already out of Ukraine when the balloon went up, working in SE Asia, North Africa, & the like.
There’s not a bulldozer with enough horsepower to pull any of them back to Ukraine, ever.
dover0beach says:
January 25, 2023 at 5:33 pm
Indeed. Some of the data is old and not entirely reliable.
I don’t think they’ve completed a census in more than 2 decades.
Accurate published data is scarce. The other aspect I didn’t mention is whether to include the areas that take in Mykolav and further west to Odesa. Add them and we’re talking another 5-6 million people +/-.
Worst case would probably see the Ukrainian population down to, say, 20 million in a land area of 325-375k sq/km with vast tracts of arable land gone along with minerals, ports etc. along with a shattered economy. Try to stabilise your population and encourage reproduction in those circumstances. Good luck.
“unless she is satisfied it guarantees First Nations Sovereignty is not ceded
1. There never was a First Nation with sovereignty over the Great Southern Land in 1788.
2. The only Sovereign Nation on the Great Southern Land in 2023 is called Australia.
3. Get over it Thorpe or get out of the Australian Senate.
QED
Gina Carano
@ginacarano
People lost their lives to blood clots & heart problems, fired from professions they worked their entire lives for, were attacked & ostracized ruthlessly. Some of our loved ones are now dead. Why?
Just for them to say “ya these jabs were crap but here trust us on the next one.”
Response to a critique of our statin analysis
Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
Notice how calm Bill Gates is as he just rattles off now that the MRNA vaccines are an abject failure. No big deal!
14 of the 16 beds in the towns intensive care unit were filled with Aboriginal women who had been bashed.
In Feraldton a conservative estimate would be 80% of police calls are to deal with Aboriginals.
CCTV of offenders appears to show the 15% or so of the population punching well above their weight in the crime/nuisance stakes.
And for any asshole lefty who will wail about “overpolicing” the hospital admissions for injuries and illness are similar.
And the biggest victims of the criminal element are fellow Aboriginals.
Thorpe doesn’t give a toss about bashed up Aboriginal women. Why would she? She’ll never be like them and she knows it.
She will use them when she’s good and ready and not a moment sooner. Until then they can rot away on settlements. The money earmarked for them will be whisked away as usual to other destinations like bank accounts.
Nothing changes.
For shame, don’t you believe Lidia?
The Game Is Over and They Have Lost
ZK2A:
Very difficult to have a Voice when you’re intubated, paralysed, and have brain damage from the very last flogging many of these women will ever get.
Apparently international and domestic travel is “driving inflation”. This is what was just blared at me from the television.
Any ideas on how this could possibly be? It seems a stretch to me.
No wonder Albo wants the Voice out the way. Can’t see things improving when Parliament gets back.
Speedbox:
I’m sure the UN will solve the depopulation problem.
By importing tens of thousands of young males from Turkey, Iran, The Sudan, etc.
Oh…I see. It’s energy costs being hidden by price increases in food, building materials, and travel because…energy costs.
We see you, you charlatans. The shell and pea trick won’t work this time around.
On Twitter:
Excellent troll, Mr President. If we can’t buy farmland/industries in China, then neither can they.
And I’d add the stuff they’ve bought in Australia. Two can play the Predatory Trade Game, Mr X1.
I think the technical term is bullshit
Ahahaha! And the weather reportette is standing in front of a collapsed brick wall in Sydney.
Only one problem. It is apparent why the wall collapsed…it wasn’t the weally weally scary weather…the wall was single skin and had no footings.
😀
You know what the world needs.
Pugwashcore.
Apparently pence was asked by the DOJ to search his home for secret docs to show Trump’s possession of secret docs was unique. But Pence had docs so that fell flat. The secret doc comparisons are remarkable:
Trump = POTUS: can declassify and have secret docs. His secret docs were momentos – signed napkins from rocket man and the like. Cooperated with DOJ. Raided before mid terms. No culpability
Pence: VP, no right to have secret docs but his docs in locked container but still guilty of felony under strict liability provisions.
Biden: senator and VP; no right to docs. Docs known but not revealed before mid terms. All docs unlocked and many in penn state uni in Chinese study centre financed by chunk money. Unsecured at home; accessible by druggie son with proven connections to Ukraine and chunks. Docs dealing with Ukraine, Russia and the chunks consistent with biden family business connections.
In a just world the whole wretched biden family would be fed to pigs.
Animal cruelty.
“For 120 years, decisions have been made … on behalf of Indigenous Australians. What we need to do is to make decisions with Indigenous Australians and listen to them.”
That’s a fu.king lie; the commonwealth had no power to make laws for the 3rd nations until after the 1967 referendum. This voice is going to be a lie fest of such proportion that it will make biden look like a truth-teller.
“The voice is the vehicle, by listening to people to get better practical outcomes, to close the gap, which is there in health, in education, in housing, in life expectancy, in justice outcomes,” Mr Albanese said.
“The truth is that in 2023, we still have extraordinarily large gaps in all of those key indicators.”
1: stable families
2 Educated and well looked after kids
3 one parent working
4 Gradual buildup of social and economic capital
There you go, gap closed.
Applies for every race/social group in the world.
Using the dispossession template the Jewish people must have the worst outcomes in all indicators globally.
If not, why not?
US Justice Department sues Google over alleged online ad monopoly | English News | WION
Joe Biden AGREES to Give “Significant Number” of Abrams M1 Tanks to Ukraine – DESPITE RUSSIAN THREATS OF NUCLEAR WAR
Well, this is where we find out if Putin is going to double down…
Despite journalists being leftist maniacs, if they smell blood they can’t help themselves. Feeding frenzies are indiscriminate.
Ah…that old playbook… if you don’t get the right answer first, ask again… and again as they did 3x with the Irish and the EU… or have tried in WA with Daylight Saving (and many other issues!!)
Should all CCP owned US land be repossessed?
YES or NO?
Excellent troll, Mr President. If we can’t buy farmland/industries in China, then neither can they.
And I’d add the stuff they’ve bought in Australia. Two can play the Predatory Trade Game, Mr X1.
Don’t worry as we have seen this coming which is why we have been dumping your crap US Debt as fast as we can. Only 500 billion US dollar left to go and we will never buy anymore of your crap debt. How is that Debt Ceiling going BTW? You takeover our US assets then we not sell you Rare Earth Materials and other stuff that you need.
And we will take Taiwan anyway while you send all your Military assets to the UKR. BTW, we bought that 80 Billion US Dollar worth of military assets that you left behind in Afghanistan for a song and sold it on to Russia. They now know how some of your stuff works and so do we.
Bye for now – your friend Mr Xi.
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A bit unfair on the pigs don’t you think.
Surely the Torres Strait has to go?
No, this has been a 60,000 year old sting operation in the making.
They want “wepawations” Elbow style.
Well look modern adult animation phenomena Rick and Morty is dead.
Justin Roiland got accused of domestic abuse by Abi Lyn Maley (from an incident in May 2020 apparently) and got cut loose by Warner/Adult Swim.
Assumed guilty pending any evidence.
What a world.
It doesn’t matter what the evidence says unless he decides to go full Johnny Depp if she’s proven to be a liar.
A totally rational article by a woman who clearly has a lot of male attention:
https://medium.com/honestly-yours/rick-and-morty-never-should-have-happened-a8696a96aee3
…and that’s right she was into rough stuff and her Hollywood production career turned into an “adult entertainment” career.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-rick-and-morty-fandom-and-haters.35075/page-44
Moral of the story.
DO. NOT. STICK. IT. IN. A. CRAZY. WICKET.
Some people walk in the rain, others just get wet.
– Roger Miller
Already started around here – the local “elders” are repeating all the bullshit about Aborigines not being citizens, or counted in the census until 1967.
If a deluge of dollars counts, Brittany did both to perfection.
Robert Sewell says:
January 25, 2023 at 5:59 pm
I’m sure the UN will solve the depopulation problem. By importing tens of thousands of young males from Turkey, Iran, The Sudan, etc.
Actually, you’re kind of on the right track. The long-term problem for any future Ukrainian government is ‘how’ do they protect what’s left. A shattered economy, severe population decline, loss of industry, arable land etc.
How do you encourage what’s left of your population to stay – in particular the best and brightest and of course the young ‘breeding age’ men and women. Only with income – but how is that achieved with massive debt from the World Bank (+ USA/EU funds) and without annoying the neighbours and becoming a tax haven for investors.
Import people? Sure, but you’ll need millions of them and over time this will eventually dilute the ‘native’ Ukrainian DNA – and some of your existing people will find it very unsettling to discover their new neighbours are Sudanese…… which equals social unrest. (Ukraine is a very ‘white’ country – very few darker skinned.)
It’s all very well for someone to suggest that Ukraine could become the world’s next ‘melting pot’ of races but this would be deeply troubling to Ukrainians. It is not difficult to see why Zelensky sees the conflict with Russia as existential for Ukraine – and in some respects he’s correct. I wonder, with the benefit of hindsight, whether he quietly regrets not taking a different, but still independent, trajectory after 2014. Maybe the deal laid out by Russia prior to Russian troops crossing the border. Or allowing Boris to strong arm him to reject the peace deal offered in April.
In any case the dream of EU/USA supplied tanks and artillery rolling across Ukrainian fields driving Russia back to its borders and then reclaiming the Crimea in the greatest tank assault since WW2 supported by vast numbers of troops triumphantly marching into Sevastopol…… are just that. A dream.
New World Odor™
@hugh_mankind
Dr Jordan Peterson With a Warning
“If you think you’re going to be served well by craven political ideologues who are primarily selected to be physicians on the basis of their political purity, you’ve got a-bloody-nother thing coming.”
It was the stir of the town when an 80-year-old man married a 20-year-old girl. After a year she went into the hospital to give birth. The nurse came out to congratulate the fellow. “This is amazing. How do you do it at your age?” He answered “You’ve got to keep that old motor running”. The following year she gave birth again. The same nurse said “You really are amazing. How do you do it?” He again said “You’ve got to keep the old motor running”. The same thing happened the next year. The nurse said “You must be quite a man”. He responded “You’ve got to keep that old motor running”. The nurse then said “Well, you had better change the oil, this one’s black”.
The DoJ is desperately looking for squirrels.
Exactly.
We’re all in the same boat. It’s called representative democracy.
If you want to change that polity, why shouldn’t all “stakeholders” get a Voice to parliament to shape and review legislation, starting with tax payers?
Roger…that’s perfect. And a way to frame the inherent racism of the proposal.
We are all in the same boat. These buggers (whether I voted for them or not) make decisions on my behalf but not necessarily to my benefit.
Been going on all my life. 😀
Precisely, calli.
And I’m in favour of any mechanism which will make them more responsive to voters.
Just not on a racial basis, thank you.
That’s so last century Mr Rotten.
ADDS YEARS TO YOUR LIFE, AND LIFE TO YOUR YEARS! Viagra Linked to Much Lower Risk of Death in Men, But Questions Remain.
The major question is only how many a Viagra-upped 80 year old can sire.
Oops, meant to link to the Instapundit version, whose editorialization those caps are. 😀
Is there any hope that the complicit media will ever be made to pay for their ardent embrace of the climate scam?
I mentioned a while back a very senior WA public servant telling the dinner party that Aborigines were Flora and Fauna until 1967. I called bullshit and said where that lie came from.
About 40 minutes later she came and said she had immediately ducked out and googled it and I (and the Cats who made me so well informed) were RIGHT!
Apparently they were told this by a local indigenous consultant PAID BY THE WA GOVT TO INFORM THESE SENIOR PUBES about aboriginal issues.
More couples having fun; women, children hardest hit!
And they didn’t have the intelligence to check what they were told. In short, they were and presumably still are gullible nitwits. And these are the ppl running the state.
Jeez, talk about thin edge of the wedge stuff.
When in doubt … Short it out
On the first night of their honeymoon, the new bride tells her husband “I have a confession to make. I’m not a virgin. I’ve been with one other guy”.
“Oh yeah? Who was the guy?” “Tiger Woods, the golfer”.
“Well, he’s rich, famous and handsome. I can understand that”.
The couple then makes passionate love. When they finish, the husband gets up and walks to the telephone.
“What are you doing?” asks the wife. “I’m hungry. I’m calling room service”. “Tiger wouldn’t do that”. “Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?” “He’d come back to bed and do it a second time”.
The husband drops the phone and makes love to his wife a second time. When they finish, he goes back to the phone.
“What are you doing now?” she asks. “I’m still hungry, so I’m going to ring room service for some food”. “Tiger wouldn’t do that”. “Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?” “He’d come back to bed and do it one more time”.
The husband puts the phone down and heads back to bed.
Exhausted after the third lovemaking session, he shuffles back to the phone and starts to dial.
The wife asks “Are you calling room service?” “No! I’m calling Tiger Woods to find out what’s par for this hole!”…………………………
A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.
– Gerald R. Ford
Anyone like to explain why “this is clearly bullslip” or why Putin was forced to reject this, etc?
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/
Well yes, but sometimes you got to risk it for the biscuit.
Do not attempt shoplifting. If it is a dodgy biscuit, pay for the biscuit up front. Or do not consume the biscuit, otherwise you will pay later.
In non-metaphoric commenting, has Mater been about lately? I seem to have missed him.
Revolutionary, eh?
Celeb goss…
https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/you-are-already-loved-beyond-words-paris-hilton-welcomes-birth-of-first-child-via-surrogate-with-heartwarming-message/news-story/f6af984778167d055ac95830500276ed
Paris Hilton must think she’s too good to give birth.
Much too messy. Clearly a job for a surrogate.
Now that you mention it, so have I.
Silly season break perhaps?
A snapshot of how this country should and should not be:
Yesterday, a family member on the far north coast opined that one of the differences he sees, after leaving Sydney, is no foreign faces. He was very pleased with that, knowing where he lived.
I look out my window and my Burmese neighbour is flying an Australian flag for Australia Day.
I don’t see foreign faces either.
If Canberra was moved to Alice Springs it might make a difference.
Speaking of pigs:
Woke Medical Journal Says Humans Are No More Valuable Than Animals, Calls For Shift Away From Human-Centered Health Care
The Lancet is essentially arguing that your life has no more value than a pig. Any efforts to better your well-being must take the welfare of the pig into consideration.
ffs, what’d I tell youse?
… you’re the farm
My first attempt at Gozleme tonight. Very popular market food in the eastern states, apparently. I’d never heard of it, nor had a ‘taste’ to guide me, other than the recipe.
“Yum, Granny!” was the popular verdict. Minimal leftovers disappeared with, “I’m taking this!”
I love cooking for these wonderful women of the future.
She knows she has a lot to be grateful for just being here (and she’s likely made the most of it).
The same goes for my wife, a migrant and “person of colour” whose enthusiasm for Australia Day extends to putting those little flags on her car.
The majority of whom will have been bashed by other women.
Because they never, ever tell you the truth.
From The Speccie’s (Oz edition) evening mailout:
‘Albanese has been guilted into visiting Alice Springs following a wave of violence sparked, according to the police, by Labor’s bright idea to ignore the voices of Indigenous women and allow the purchase of alcohol. The effect was almost immediate. Aside from the nightmare Albanese has caused, his quick little private jet hop to Alice Springs has proved something rather interesting – it turns out you don’t need a racist clause added to the Constitution to listen to the voices of Indigenous Australians. All you need is a bit of jet fuel and some media pressure.’
They’ve been going even more fruity than usual lately.
Woke Lancet Announces ‘Medical Urgency’ of Climate Change (23 Jan)
That’s not entirely surprising since the Lancet editor is an actual Extinction Rebellion supporter.
The Liars, always unable to resist the grand gesture.
Vicki – I think – mentioned Wave Hill way upthread.
Cue the “iconic” pic of Whitlam pouring dust into Vincent Lingiari’s hands.
Iconic, yes, but not for the reasons imagined.
since the Lancet editor is an actual
Extinction Rebellion supporterskin-suitDamaging anthropogenic climate change (if it is a problem at all) could be ended if Australia simply made regenerative grazing and anything nuclear industry related absolutely tax free for the 30 or so years.
There is no need for any taxes, regulation or explicit subsidies to any party.
Climate change activists are the useful idiots for industrial grifters.
Pretty clear from the article and elsewhere that neither side trusted the other by that stage.
next
Did anyone save the Obama/Clinton 16 year plan meme? I can’t turn it up but distinctly remember that it included nuclear war. What is absolutely clear is that NATO/the West have no intention of seeking a cease fire but are determined to escalate.
2023.01.23 About Those F-16’s