Open Thread – Tues 16 May 2023


The Peasant Dance, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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MatrixTransform
May 18, 2023 12:33 am

self assembling Lego seems somehow pointless

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 18, 2023 2:25 am

Pat McAfee shows Crowder how it’s done.

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Tom
May 18, 2023 4:17 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
May 18, 2023 4:28 am

From Taibbi.

Eight Takeaways From the Durham Report
Susan Schmidt examines the highlights and lowlights of the new Special Counsel report on Trump-Russia

https://www.racket.news/p/damn-thats-thin-i-know-it-sucks-the?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1042&post_id=121889608&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 18, 2023 6:08 am

And you weren’t a crotchless pisslewit you’d be man of the year.

cohenite – you haven’t been dipping into Shakespeare’s insult generator have you — or is pisslewit a new invention, I’m pinching it – I asked Signorina Google and she said: I got nuffing

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 18, 2023 6:25 am

Henry IV

‘Sblood, you starveling, you elf-skin, you dried neat’s tongue, you bull’s pizzle, you stock-fish!

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 18, 2023 6:49 am

What great timing.
The Hoover institution releases an interview with Alexander Downer the week his stupidity was shown all over again.
It’s part of their “Secrets of Statecraft” series.
Bwahahaha.

Pogria
Pogria
May 18, 2023 6:54 am

Gunmaker Heckler & Koch Deletes Woke Tweets After Backlash

This is so funny. Almost all the companies that have jumped on the woke band wagon or publicly relayed their support for wokeness, have women heading their advertising etc. Perhaps they should employ Faux women instead.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 18, 2023 6:55 am

All of the usual suspects in the leftoid MSM are becoming increasingly shrill and repeating the alarmism raised to eleven by the “World Meteorological Organisation” ( a subset of the Guterrez leftoid UN?) that the next five years will see the holy writ of 1.5C breached and thuh “hottest year evah” experienced.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:00 am

Rugby Australia adds its voice to the “Yes” vote.

Seriously, these cretins should stick to the knitting of sport, particularly so in RA’s case. Tis funny though, I do recall how, not too many years ago, RA didn’t support another coloured man and his particular “voice”, in fact he lost his rugby career because of his particular voice, but I suppose he, being of the wrong ethnicity and the wrong religion, had no voice.

Razey
Razey
May 18, 2023 7:02 am

Aren’t people tired of woke sports? Perhaps they vote No to spite these idiots.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 18, 2023 7:03 am

The BBC’s Tech show went after Elon Musk overnight. The execrable Musk stands accused of “censoring tweets to stay in business in Turkey”.
Far be it from the Beeb to explain that Turkey is ruled by a despot, and that all Big Tech companies reach accommodations with despotic regimes if they want to stay unbanned in those countries. Whoops! That sort of censorship also applies to the USA, and in the UK you can get arrested for unapproved opinions promulgated on social media.
What the Beeb is really doing is attacking someone who they now dislike.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:06 am

I should also add that the various sporting codes, and the companies and corporations that spruik the Voice and attempt to shove it down people’s throats are just going to alienate Australians. I think people are and will be seriously turned off, I think people are already being seriously turned off. The “yes” vote is already falling, despite there being no effective “no campaign”. This isn’t SSM again (which wasn’t a referendum, it was a plebiscite, big difference).

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:11 am

“What the Beeb is really doing is attacking someone who they now dislike.”

Correct, because Elon Musk has come out and bought Twitter, because he publicly supports free speech and because he now questions sacred leftists beliefs, he must be attacked and destroyed.

Also, Musk’s brutal takedown of that BBC journalist a few weeks ago is the reason why the Beeb are now attacking Musk, left, right and centre.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:12 am

And I don’t recall the BBC ever standing up and supporting Trump’s right to tweet, in fact they cheered when Trump’s was kicked off the platform.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 7:15 am

Rugby used to be my favourite spectator sport. After Folau and the toxic goth, I still watch it, but only when my grandsons play. The rest is dead to me.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:23 am

“Rugby used to be my favourite spectator sport. After Folau and the toxic goth, I still watch it, but only when my grandsons play. The rest is dead to me.”

Yep, me too, my nephews still support the Tahs but they’ve both admitted to me they prefer to support club rugby.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 18, 2023 7:24 am

Squad demands $14 TRILLION in federal reparations for descendants of slaves: Radical Dems say huge bill will be paid by reducing defense spending – and ‘trauma lives in the black body’

Daily Mail

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:25 am

“Far be it from the Beeb to explain that Turkey is ruled by a despot, “

I don’t like Erdogan however I reckon the Turkish elections were probably at lot cleaner than elections in some US states. The US is not entitled to lecture any country about democracy, or anything else for that matter.

Pogria
Pogria
May 18, 2023 7:31 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 18, 2023 at 7:00 am
Rugby Australia adds its voice to the “Yes” vote.

Seriously, these cretins should stick to the knitting of sport, particularly so in RA’s case. Tis funny though, I do recall how, not too many years ago, RA didn’t support another coloured man and his particular “voice”, in fact he lost his rugby career because of his particular voice, but I suppose he, being of the wrong ethnicity and the wrong religion, had no voice.

Cassie,
the ALPBC is promoting a two-part hit job on Israel Folau. It starts tonight. I hope Israel has a good Lawyer on standby. The scum do mention that there was “no input”, from Israel Folau. No Shit, Sherlock.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
May 18, 2023 7:32 am

Cassie 17/5 @ 1.57pm
The calling people names by lefties has been turbo charged since the 1980s. Note the evolution from Gough to the next generation.
These people are from the show “the young ones” – all you need to do is call the opposition “spotty” or “silent p”.
Theses people went to school, the student union, the amps job.
Labor pick a good lookin chick or a articulate male, place then in the ps and then as their candidate.
This is an observation which I have noticed keeps re occurring.
So say “what ya got spotty”.
You should also reel out the cracking Beaurepairs advert from the 1990 where this dude rocks up in a 3 wheeled vehicle and after striking a “good deal” says “I’ll have a tyre for my blah mobile” .Beau sitting is the background reading the paper quips “that’s fair”

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 7:34 am

Grate. The ABC using taxpayer money to hunt and defame an innocent Australian citizen. For Wrongthink.

Why don’t they simply rename themselves the Ministry of Truth and be done with it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 18, 2023 7:37 am

the toxic goth

Raelene Castle. A stock-fish if there ever was one.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 7:38 am

“Cassie,
the ALPBC is promoting a two-part hit job on Israel Folau. It starts tonight. I hope Israel has a good Lawyer on standby. The scum do mention that there was “no input”, from Israel Folau. No Shit, Sherlock.”

Folau is their ABC’s new Pell. As with Pell, Folau is to be destroyed completely.

I also hope Folau has a good lawyer on standby. And Folau, unlike Pell, will sue.

Gabor
Gabor
May 18, 2023 7:43 am

Erdogan is what a mid east (partly geographically but definitely in spirit) country like Turkey needs.
The two biggest mistakes the US made in the not too distant past were getting rid of Saddam of Iraq and Gaddafi of Libya.

No need to bother about the rest of their stuff-ups.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 7:43 am

It’s interesting that Wolfman’s review this week is A Man for all Seasons.

Oh, and the Manly players who refused to wear the rainbow jersey refuse to wear one in the future. If all the football codes wish to lose their most talented Pacific Island players over perceived meanness to magic mincers, they’re going the right way about it.

Gabor
Gabor
May 18, 2023 7:45 am

“No need to bother”

Should read, no need to mention, we most certainly should be worried and bothered by US foreign policy.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 8:12 am

The US is not entitled to lecture any country about democracy, or anything else for that matter.

Amen.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 18, 2023 8:16 am

Joe Biden isn’t coming but the idiots in charge have not yet cancelled this:
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/sup/s23-h25.pdf

The size of a Presidential TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction) in the US is typically 30nm radius. Ours is 120nm. FMD.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 8:21 am

The US is not entitled to lecture any country about democracy, or anything else for that matter.

‘The Japanese people have grown tired of being dictated to by Washington liberals.’

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 18, 2023 8:23 am

ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold replaced amid inquiry into handling of Bruce Lehrmann’s trial

The ACT Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Shane Drumgold has been replaced in the position while the board of inquiry into the handling of the Bruce Lehrmann case continues.

On Tuesday, the ACT government executive appointed Anthony Williamson SC — the Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions — to act in the position until June 13.

So, not going in the direction the ACT Government originally expected.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 8:29 am

Who needs the bard when you’ve got Caterina Sforza:

“Do it if you want, hang them out in front of me, I have the equipment here to make more!”

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 8:30 am

“ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold replaced amid inquiry into handling of Bruce Lehrmann’s trial”

Oh the schadenfreude is sweet this morning.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
May 18, 2023 8:31 am

“I’m increasingly inclined to think that there should be some regulatory oversight, maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don’t do something very foolish. I mean with artificial intelligence we’re summoning the demon.”
Elon Musk

shatterzzz
May 18, 2023 8:31 am

Rugby Australia adds its voice to the “Yes” vote.

Cricket Oz , AFL & thugby league also going the full YES, as well (amazing what OPM can achieve!) ..
I’m guessin’ the Latrine Mitchell fronted ads will drag all those of “undecided” over to YES .. LOL!

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 8:36 am

Hmmm

Washington propagandists on overdrive now on Medium.

They’re actually advocating for and predicting a break up of Russia.

It’s hard to tell if this is just trolling Putin, his supporters or is a veneer of “good” news on top of a very costly war Ukraine has fought Russia to a standstill on.

Crossie
Crossie
May 18, 2023 8:42 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 18, 2023 at 7:11 am
“What the Beeb is really doing is attacking someone who they now dislike.”

Correct, because Elon Musk has come out and bought Twitter, because he publicly supports free speech and because he now questions sacred leftists beliefs, he must be attacked and destroyed.

I wonder if Musk’s haters will all now give away their Teslas.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 8:44 am

The two biggest mistakes the US made in the not too distant past were getting rid of Saddam of Iraq and Gaddafi of Libya.

Libya hasn’t downed any airliners lately and who hears about Iraq now?

The issue always were really: did Gaddafi get punished severely enough in the first instance and was Iraq a western concern at all? America’s diplomacy pre war was incompetent to say the least.

Zipster
May 18, 2023 8:45 am
Crossie
Crossie
May 18, 2023 8:45 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 18, 2023 at 7:25 am
“Far be it from the Beeb to explain that Turkey is ruled by a despot, “

I don’t like Erdogan however I reckon the Turkish elections were probably at lot cleaner than elections in some US states. The US is not entitled to lecture any country about democracy, or anything else for that matter.

You can count on it that with America’s fall from grace every dictator will go full Saddam and then innocently say that their elections are as fair as those of the US.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 18, 2023 8:48 am

Yolngu man Yunupingu is gone, but his flame and truth live on

11:00PM May 17, 2023

It’s often said that we stand on the shoulders of giants. Yunupingu was a giant who made sure we could.

He lifted us up and held us there so that we could see as far as he did. And what a vision he shared with us. A vision underpinned by an unbending belief in the need for Aboriginal people to hold their future in their own hands. A vision so grounded in all that was just and fair and right that, ultimately, it elevated us all.

He had every right to be cynical, but he wasn’t. No matter how often Australia let him down, he kept striving to have us rise to his level of integrity. And as he did, what Yunupingu helped us all to see was not the reinvention of Australia, but the realisation of an even greater one. Now his life is at an end, we gather in the place where it began. And as we gaze out to where the Gulf of Carpentaria meets the sky, we soften our sorrow with joy and gratitude for all that his life was.

It is an honour to be here in the country that so filled his heart, but as it’s my first time in Arnhem Land without him, it is a poignant one.

Yet his presence – and the reminders of all he believed in and all that mattered to him – are all around us, the profound cultural, political, social and economic legacies of a leader.

Of a statesman. A painter, dancer, singer and musician. Australian of the Year in 1978. Member of the Order of Australia. A national treasure. A remarkable member of a remarkable family.

A great Yolngu man. An extraordinary Australian, who understood if you want to make your voice count you have to make sure that it is heard. He made sure with the sheer power of his advocacy for land rights. He made sure when he helped draft the Yirrkala Bark Petitions, which delivered such a powerful message that resounded within the walls of the nation’s parliament.

He made sure when he co-created that blueprint for treaty, the Barunga Statement.

And he made sure in his crucial role in that masterclass of concise and unifying eloquence, the Uluru Statement from the Heart. In his words: “At Uluru we started a fire, a fire we hope burns bright for Australia.”

Now Yunupingu is gone, but the gurtha – the great tongue of flame and truth with which spoke to us – is still here. And it lights the path ahead for us. We will never again hear his voice anew, but his words – and his legacy – will keep speaking to us. The finest tribute we can offer to his memory is within our grasp.

Yunupingu walked in two worlds with authority, power and grace, and he worked to make them whole – together.

Now he walks in another place, but he has left such great footsteps for us to follow here in this one. With deepest respect. Vale Yunupingu.

mem
mem
May 18, 2023 8:49 am

Dr Faustussays:
May 18, 2023 at 8:23 am
ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold replaced amid inquiry into handling of Bruce Lehrmann’s trial

The ACT Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Shane Drumgold has been replaced in the position while the board of inquiry into the handling of the Bruce Lehrmann case continues.

On Tuesday, the ACT government executive appointed Anthony Williamson SC — the Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions — to act in the position until June 13.

So, not going in the direction the ACT Government originally expected.

My guess is that Drumgold won’t be returned to his position and will go on stress leave before disappearing into the sunset.

Rabz
May 18, 2023 8:49 am

Just noting some earlier comments above – REM were (are?) a fantastic band. I’ve got three of their albums and first started getting into them back in the late eighties. My favourite song of theirs is this.

As for rugby, I stopped watching it decades ago. Professionalism, combined with constant ridiculous rule changes made it less and less of a spectacle and more of a borefest, increasingly infested with dickheads. The culmination of all this being the Castle era, exemplified by that whinging talentless Rhodesian twat Poocock, the persecution (and banishing) of our most talented player for wrongthink, unacceptable interference by the toxic leprechaun and our worst ever world cup result, for which, funnily enough, no one was held responsible.

I’ve pretty much given up watching all professional sport, thanks to woke dickheads (both players and administrators) constantly hectoring the fans about their multiple (perceived) shortcomings. The other infuriating aspect of modern sport is the players constantly shooting their mouths off about their ideological soundness.

Listen, you largely useless overpaid sanctimonious knuckleheads and talentless lardarsed dykes – you’re allegedly professional athletes – as with actors, I don’t give a rodent’s backside what your worthless opinion is on anything. So just STFU and stick to engaging in playing sport for a living, you obnoxious infuriating ingrates.

Rant off>

Indolent
Indolent
May 18, 2023 8:51 am
areff
areff
May 18, 2023 8:52 am

but his flame and truth live on

as does his personal helicopter

Crossie
Crossie
May 18, 2023 8:55 am

calli says:
May 18, 2023 at 7:34 am
Grate. The ABC using taxpayer money to hunt and defame an innocent Australian citizen. For Wrongthink.

Why don’t they simply rename themselves the Ministry of Truth and be done with it.

The ABC will continue to do as they please until an actual conservative* government cuts their funding enough to hear the squeals. Nothing short of a 30% cut in the first instance will work. Make the, choose whom they would let go and then face the music from their erstwhile supporters.

*Yes I know, probably not in my lifetime.

Rabz
May 18, 2023 8:55 am

Drumgold has been replaced in the position

Why hasn’t the incompetent corrupt idiot been sacked? Given the revelations in the Sofronoff enquiry so far, his position is untenable. Oh, that’s right, cause he’s an ACT labore drone.

Once again, for a certain irredeemable imbecile stinking up this place, Lehrmann should never have been tried for sexual assault.

The reason why? Zero Evidence.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 8:55 am

So just STFU and stick to engaging in playing sport for a living, you obnoxious infuriating ingrates.

If I want an opinion (political or otherwise) from someone whose job it is to chase a ball, I’ll ask the dog.

Probably get a more sensible answer as well.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 8:57 am

I won’t break out the schadenfreude popcorn just yet over Drumgold. Not until I see where his useless bargearske lands.

Which will most likely be another well paid government sinecure.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 18, 2023 8:58 am

If I want an opinion (political or otherwise) from someone whose job it is to chase a ball, I’ll ask the dog.

Very good.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 18, 2023 8:58 am

It’s dehumanizing to call someone just “Yunupingu” after their death. Not as much of a wank as calling them “Doctor Yunupingu”, using a stage name like “Gurrumul” instead of their given Geoffrey, or renaming them something brand new and unused like “Kumanji”… but still, it denies them individuality.
It’s a power play, isn’t it? Are you, journalist or social media user, spiritual enough to join the magic chant? Or are you afraid enough of their ghost? Or afraid of the intolerance bone being pointed at you?

Indolent
Indolent
May 18, 2023 8:59 am

The country we escaped from when I was a child is now an example to the world of how to stand up for yourself and your nation. On the whole, the former Soviet satellites are taking a harder stance because they’ve been here before and know what’s in store. As do their emigrants.

Viktor Orbán’s Hungary continues to withstand attacks by pro-LGBT, pro-war EU

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 18, 2023 9:01 am

You suspect Drumgold could probably hand back his DPP swipe card at this point and join Brittany in the Maldives.

Crossie
Crossie
May 18, 2023 9:02 am

On Tuesday, the ACT government executive appointed Anthony Williamson SC — the Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions — to act in the position until June 13.

So, not going in the direction the ACT Government originally expected.
My guess is that Drumgold won’t be returned to his position and will go on stress leave before disappearing into the sunset.

Nah, he will be back and will announce that he has learned from this event and will carry this new skill into the rest of his career.

Gabor
Gabor
May 18, 2023 9:03 am

Libya hasn’t downed any airliners lately and who hears about Iraq now?

No but it’s a starting point- embarkation port for illegal immigration to the EU.
Almost as planned, but I’m only guessing

You don’t hear about Iraq, because the western journos MSM, are not interested, plenty is happening there but like, who cares what is happening in Barcaldine?
Lots of Queenslanders I suppose, but no big news in Vic.

My point, obviously not well expressed, was that the US deep state has the experience in getting rid of leaders they don’t like and instituting their own puppets, without starting stupid wars.

Just look at Zelensky and a long line of others before.

Indolent
Indolent
May 18, 2023 9:04 am
Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 9:06 am

You suspect Drumgold could probably hand back his DPP swipe card at this point and join Brittany in the Maldives.

I thought it was the Seychelles?

Anywhere but here.

Indolent
Indolent
May 18, 2023 9:08 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 18, 2023 9:09 am

James O’Keefe has taken up where he left off at PV, who fired him shortly after a certain undercover video he had released.

O’Keefe Hidden Camera: Fox Producer Admits Dominion, Corporate Demands to Fire Tucker (17 May)

James O’Keefe’s newly minted O’Keefe Media Group (OMG) has released new, undercover footage showing Fox News producer Sean Langille admitting that host Tucker Carlson’s firing was tied to the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit, as well as a Big Pharma pressure campaign.

“When it’s corporate media you’re beholden to advertisers… we take money from Pfizer,” Langille said. He was later confronted over the phone by O’Keefe over the matter.

Very interesting. I wonder what that means for Tucker’s contract, by which Fox so far seems to want him muzzled until after the 2024 election.

duncanm
duncanm
May 18, 2023 9:09 am

Anchor Whatsays:
May 18, 2023 at 7:03 am
The BBC’s Tech show went after Elon Musk overnight. The execrable Musk stands accused of “censoring tweets to stay in business in Turkey”.

well derr. He’s done that in every country. He publicly stated some time back that twitter would abide by local laws in every jurisdiction. The BBC are a bunch of whiney losers.

In more musk news:

Elon Musk

@elonmusk May 16
Soros reminds me of Magneto

@elonmusk 4h
I’d like apologize for this post

@elonmusk 4h
It was really unfair to Magneto

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:10 am

I suspect Drumgold will be back as DPP too, he’s just too busy atm.

Indolent
Indolent
May 18, 2023 9:11 am
Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 9:15 am

My point, obviously not well expressed, was that the US deep state has the experience in getting rid of leaders they don’t like and instituting their own puppets, without starting stupid wars.

Just look at Zelensky and a long line of others before.

I never got this, how is Zelensky a puppet when he beat the prior Euromaidan supporting President?

Zelensky’s votes were strongest in Russian speaking regions and the first vote in a three way contest went to a runoff election.

How in any way is he a puppet?

Either the deep state got very lucky or they’re way smarter than they get credit for.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 18, 2023 9:16 am

The country we escaped from when I was a child is now an example to the world of how to stand up for yourself and your nation. On the whole, the former Soviet satellites are taking a harder stance because they’ve been here before and know what’s in store. As do their emigrants.

Correct, when I pointed out the er, ‘curiosities*’ I saw with the 2020 US Elections, my son’s International Uni student friends (mainly Chinese and Russian) all said ‘of course… all elections are corrupt, why would that be any different’.

My Australian colleagues said ‘ha ha, your man lost’… completely oblivious to the implications if something fraudulent had transpired.

* Cover the ears of the usual curiosity deniers 😉

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:16 am

We’ve been working on the food supply chain is being deliberately disrupted narrative for years.
Fingers crossed it will happen.
The biggest threat to food supply is energy costs and other insane climate measures .
The British should resign themselves to swedes and turnips in winter.

Food production and manufacturing are widely dispersed throughout the U.S. and there are currently no wide-spread disruptions reported in the supply chain

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 9:17 am

Just look at Zelensky and a long line of others before.

I think you’ll find “The Chocolate King” was favoured by the Americans in 2019.

Biden used to joke that as VP he spent more time talking with Poroshenko than with his wife.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 18, 2023 9:18 am

Nothing to see here. They just lost enough explosive material to blow up the world.

I checked that out earlier. Apparently it was one of those bulk rail cars with a bottom opening hopper door. The company believes the door hadn’t been closed properly. I think that means the ammonium nitrate prills are scattered all over the track all the way between Wyoming and California. It’s not being regarded as a danger.

It was a few thousand tonnes of poorly stored ammonium nitrate that blew up Beirut that time. Almost a nuclear sized detonation. And a truck load of it, roughly similar size to this railcar load, once exploded here in Australia while it was going over a road bridge. Pretty much destroyed the entire reinforced concrete bridge. So it certainly is a good question to ask.

Real Deal
Real Deal
May 18, 2023 9:18 am

Drumgold (deserving as he is for what is befalling him) appears to be the patsy for this. There are many more involved in this sorry affair that need exposing and disinfecting.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 9:19 am

Snap, dot.

I would say Zelensky has played the Americans very well.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 18, 2023 9:20 am

Mutley must be having trouble pulling today’s talking points out of his arse. The left should stop using pineapples as the delivery system but I guess that would deprive then of so much enjoyment.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:20 am

Mail out votes were a disaster for Republicans in 2020.
They need to match Democrat efforts in getting can’t be bothered lining up for hours to vote voters mobilised too.
The revelation that Dems cheat when they can was news at eleven a century ago.

dopey
dopey
May 18, 2023 9:21 am

FitzSimons. SMH:…What the Voice is about is simply trying to make a structural change to that playing field so that, I repeat: “Aboriginal people can be consulted on matters that affect Aboriginal people.” Which already happens you monumental clown. The only thing he ever gets right is “I repeat”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 18, 2023 9:22 am

It must have all seemed so easy.

Brinny publicly terrified of the dark shadow of Peter Dutton. Linda Reynolds’ bizarre behaviour during Lehrmann’s trial. A leaked letter from the DPP, the impartial minister of justice, pointing the bone at political interference:

“I am of the view that at the conclusion of the trial, there should be a public enquiry into both political and police conduct in this matter,” he said.

All that was needed was an unimpeachable inquiry head who could be relied upon to dig deeply into the mire of political influence brought to bear against Justice for Brittany.

It had already helped roll Morrison. How good if a second instalment slotted Dutton and Reynolds and Cash – and splashed another bucket of ordure on the Liberals’ women problem.

And obscured the miasma surrounding Our Brinny’s $3 meg lifestyle payola.

As they say: Shit happens.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 9:22 am

There were also 39 candidates in the first voting round.

That’s not how to rig an election.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 9:24 am

FitzSimons. SMH:…What the Voice is about is simply trying to make a structural change to that playing field so that, I repeat: “Aboriginal people can be consulted on matters that affect Aboriginal people.” Which already happens you monumental clown. The only thing he ever gets right is “I repeat”

I repeat, regional autonomy is a better solution than “The Voice”.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 9:27 am

Indolent says:
May 18, 2023 at 9:02 am

Titanic revealed: Stunning full-size images show shipwreck like never before.

Thanks for that link, Indolent. Amazing visuals. What intrigues me is the lighting.
Human vs. Nature.
Yet we can change the climate ‘pulse’ of an entire planet, can’t we?

Rabz
May 18, 2023 9:29 am

There are many more involved in this sorry affair that need exposing and disinfecting.

Agreed, mainly various cretins in the braindead lamestream meeja and federal politics.

I still maintain that Hoggins, Lehrmann and the two security guards should all have been summarily jobsacked as soon as the events on that Saturday morning became known by Reynolds and parliament house administration (if the latter could be dignified with such a term). Had the idiots on the security desk been even halfway competent, Hoggins and Lehrmann would never have been granted entry in the first place.

Z-grade stupidity and incompetence all round, in spades.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:30 am

Sometimes it feels like everything new fad is imported, from drag queen story hour, to calling aboriginal people First Nations to insisting the AEC is hopelessly corrupted.
I was watching a Canadian True Crime series made in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
They were calling the indigenous ‘aborigines’ and treading very warily.
One elderly mother who’s prostitute* daughter was callously murdered for kicks by a couple of white college males was claiming the eagles were keeping watch til the killers were caught. Where were they when her daughter was being murdered?
Did they never ever come again, I bet they did.
I’m sick of animist beliefs being elevated over Christianity (and the rule of law here)
*making no judgement other than the obvious that it’s a very high risk profession.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 18, 2023 9:31 am

I reckon Dominion used the Uke election as a testbed for large scale cheating. No evidence, not a conspiracy theory, more a gut feeling. Where better than one of the most corrupt nations around. Sniffy pedo Joe was heavily involved there as VP.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 9:32 am

Had the idiots on the security desk been even halfway competent, Hoggins and Lehrmann would never have been granted entry in the first place.

Their job was to implement protocols determined by their higher ups.

Parliament security are there to protect parliamentarians and staffers from the public, not from themselves.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:33 am

I agree Rabz.
Still think Higgins threw out a suggestion in a desperate attempt to hang on to her job and then her and the new flame created a dossier for personal and political advancement.

Gabor
Gabor
May 18, 2023 9:33 am

Either the deep state got very lucky or they’re way smarter than they get credit for.

I think getting rid of Trump in a probably rigged election, and trying to make sure he stays there is an indication of their prowess.
The Shah of Iran wasn’t going anywhere until the alternatives were presented to him by the US, all it needed was a proclamation of verbal support. It was not forthcoming.
France and the US had different ideas at the time for the mid east.

If you look at the effort made by the US foreign affairs at the moment sending their influencers to the EU countries not in favour of supporting the UKR you should perhaps see it in a different way, but having read your previous posts, I doubt it very much.

But whatever.

dopey
dopey
May 18, 2023 9:33 am

Rugby Australia…. We’re sure that, like us, you don’t support a ‘third chamber of government’…
The issue is about a third chamber of parliament, not government. Who wrote this nonsense. Most of it is moral blackmail.

mem
mem
May 18, 2023 9:34 am

Real Dealsays:
May 18, 2023 at 9:18 am
Drumgold (deserving as he is for what is befalling him) appears to be the patsy for this. There are many more involved in this sorry affair that need exposing and disinfecting.

Don’t forget there are civil cases hanging in the wings. However given how things have proceeded in the Canberra Inquiry it will be more than likely that these will be settled out of court.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 9:35 am

dopey says:
May 18, 2023 at 9:21 am
FitzSimons…“Aboriginal people can be consulted…

I didn’t get ‘consulted’ about the mandatory medical experimentation laws that stripped me of a job, my entire savings (not much, but that made the loss more devastating) and my ability to pay my bills (not to mention my dignity).

This is about continuing the museumification (a clumsy word, I know) of part of our population, with non-indigenous and the taxpayer ‘unfortunate collateral damage.’
Cages are no longer static and tangible.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 18, 2023 9:42 am

I think you’re right Real Deal except I don’t see Drumgold being a patsy. A patsy doesn’t know they’re being set up. In this case he’s giving all the ammo for the firing squad. I’ll be interested to see what sinecure he may receive in the future for taking the fall if that is what has happened.

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 9:47 am

Good rant Rabzy!

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 9:48 am

I’ve acknowledged above, and on other occasions, the awkwardness of my ‘museumification‘ label regarding indigenous issues, but I truly think it is a valuable direction to take. Primarily this is because by emphasizing the continuing and future effects on our regional and remote indig. brothers and sisters, we leave no room for the ‘racist whitey’ tag to shut down the conversation. In private, we can express concern with like minds about the enormous financial burdens that will lower the quality of living for future non0indigenous Australian citizens, but in public, the established and effective practice is to verbally coward-punch the messenger by identifying them (as a Caucasian) as a natural enemy (an outsider; see my gang culture references in previous days), whose participation in the conversation is unacceptable under any circumstances. By taking the position of advocating for our regional and remote indigenous citizens, that tactic cannot be used. By negating the use of the shut-down, the potential to discuss other elements, such as the financial aspect, becomes more likely.

Zipster
May 18, 2023 9:51 am

She was burned alive in the market place, in front of the cathedral of Angers.

beats taking half his wealth

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 9:55 am

It’s not just that Muddy, it’s giving perpetually angry Professional Aboriginals effective control over the rest of us.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 9:59 am

MatrixTransform says:
May 18, 2023 at 12:33 am

self assembling Lego seems somehow pointless

Once Lego becomes imbued with autonomous intelligence, the standard domestic living room becomes a killzone.
This could be the way humanity finally goes.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:01 am

It’s not just that Muddy, it’s giving perpetually angry Professional Aboriginals effective control over the rest of us.

Keeping roughly 45% of the indigenous population in a dysfunctional state is a means to that end. Change their conditions for the better and the guilt card can’t be played as easily.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 10:09 am

Agreed, rosie.
My post was about the most effective way to publicly present our side of the argument.
We’ve permitted our opponents to establish a very effective set of tactics, to which we have thus far presented no effective counters.
When you’re negotiating with another party, there will only be a mutually satisfactory outcome if both/all participants have that mutual satisfaction as a goal.
Our opponents are not shy in stating explicitly that they are not seeking compromise. They are not aiming for the cliched ‘win-win’ result.
By using anything less than ‘Our aim is to crush you’ tactics, we are setting ourselves up for failure. Again. Still. Repeat ad nauseam.
We MUST change our mindset.
Hence my above suggestion.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 18, 2023 10:09 am

beats taking half his wealth

That thought did occur to me, yes.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 10:09 am

No evidence, not a conspiracy theory, more a gut feeling. Where better than one of the most corrupt nations around.

Hunter, we’ve got corruption at home!

If you look at the effort made by the US foreign affairs at the moment sending their influencers to the EU countries not in favour of supporting the UKR you should perhaps see it in a different way, but having read your previous posts, I doubt it very much.

It’s the vibe, right?

39 candidates and the incumbent was already sympatico with the US Deep State.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:12 am

39 candidates and the incumbent was already sympatico with the US Deep State.

Facts can be so inconvenient at times, in which case they are best ignored or a diversion employed.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 10:12 am

Hoggins and boyfriend were discussing the desire for a “sex scandal” well before any of this transpired. It was always there in the wings.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 18, 2023 10:15 am

I checked that out earlier. Apparently it was one of those bulk rail cars with a bottom opening hopper door. The company believes the door hadn’t been closed properly. I think that means the ammonium nitrate prills are scattered all over the track all the way between Wyoming and California. It’s not being regarded as a danger.

If that’s what happened – and it appears that it is – it’s certainly not a danger. Without exciting the ASIO kiddie, there is zero chance of the 1000 miles of railroad going bang.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 10:17 am

Drumgold (deserving as he is for what is befalling him) appears to be the patsy for this.
Nah, I’ve just read his Wiki entry.
He’s been looked after by Labor his whole working life and he called for the Inquiry.
Sure, there may be some minor findings of fault against him, but he doesn’t care about that.
Yeah, the ALP won the Election due to the loss of Liberal support by women voters disgusted by the Liberal Party role in the Higgins Affair, but no one’s ever going to be able to prove that Drumgold was part of a Conspiracy, so whaddya whaddya?
There are many more involved in this sorry affair that need exposing and disinfecting.
Yeah, like Peter Dutton.
Unless the AFP are prepared to throw him overboard, he’ll skate.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 10:17 am

Well that section of track will be green and growing when the rains come.

Sudden Impact for grass. For the hardware…not so much.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:20 am

Hoggins and boyfriend were discussing the desire for a “sex scandal” well before any of this transpired. It was always there in the wings.

I must have missed that. Is it really so or speculation?

(Serious question; not having a go at you.)

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 10:22 am

I have zero sympathy for Drumgold.

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 10:23 am

There’s a phone text record Roger. Along the lines of “what we really need…”.

No wonder she didn’t want her phone examined. In the end, it made no difference (paraphrasing Killary).

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 10:24 am

Hoggins and boyfriend were discussing the desire for a “sex scandal” well before any of this transpired. It was always there in the wings.
Former boyfriend, earlier in 2019 when Labor were a mile ahead in the Polls and Scotty appeared to be a dead duck, and the context was a Sex Scandal that assisted the Liberal Party, in other words a Sex scandal involving a Senior Labor Figure.

You’re a longstanding troll, but is it too much to ask that you be an honest troll?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 18, 2023 10:29 am

The Liars do look after one who takes one for the team – see Carmen Lawrence and Bambi. It remains to be seen whether Drumgold falls into that category. Generally small, isolated professional communities have a way of dealing with these things among themselves to reach some sort of conclusion.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
May 18, 2023 10:29 am

My post was about the most effective way to publicly present our side of the argument.

My tactic has been to seperate the two issues. A voice is one thing. Albanese could legislate for a voice tomorrow. Changing the Constitution is quite another thing entirely.

Use Linda Barney’s words – if it’s in the Consitution, they can’t get rid of it the way they did with ATSIC.

ATSIC was a well-intentioned idea that morphed into a monster. What do we do if (when) the same thing happens with the voice?

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 10:30 am

Cassie of Sydney:

I think we need to blame blame the Liberals for the fact this pernicious and malignant female is now a senator.

The Liberals, Cassie, are acting only in a way a party occupying and blocking the ground a conservative party could occupy.
They have been utterly infiltrated by the Left and by doing so, the socialists are locking out of the democratic process, half of the Australian electorate.
The Socialists don’t need to commit fraud with the voting system. They only allow – by controlling the selection process in the Liberal Party – Socialists to be up for election.
They’ve discovered Australia’s’ weak spot and are pouring through the defences.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:31 am

There’s a phone text record Roger. Along the lines of “what we really need…”.

Oh, ok…thanks!

To be honest, I’ve found following this sordid affair in detail – other than what’s been posted here – a waste of my time. And that “to read” pile next to the sofa isn’t getting any smaller!

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 10:33 am

I’ll leave commenters and lurkers to make up their own minds about that accusation Ed.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:33 am

Use Linda Barney’s words – if it’s in the Consitution, they can’t get rid of it the way they did with ATSIC.

It could be gotten rid of, but it would require another referendum.

local oaf
May 18, 2023 10:34 am

When professional “sportspeople” lecture us they’re actually performing their most important function. Any “sport” they take part in is no more than simulated sport, performed for one reason only – to attract the eyeballs of the sheep to the media’s screens from which they can receive the messaging.

Millions of people obediently absorb the message from school and university, millions more soak it up from the mouths of politicians and from the many levels of governments. Others absorb the message from the corporations and advertising industry and also the entertainment world – popular music, TV, movies and computer games.

The most resistant segment of the population would have to be those considered by the elites to be the “uneducated” working classes. People who didn’t go to universities and don’t watch the ABC.

The simulated sport broadcast on TV screens is designed to attract these simpletons so they can be nudged and lectured by their betters.

There seems little point in complaining that they should stick to playing sport, that’s not what they’re really being paid for.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 10:34 am

You’re a longstanding troll, but is it too much to ask that you be an honest troll?

That’s a roomerbang comment if ever I read one.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:35 am

I’ll leave commenters and lurkers to make up their own minds about that accusation Ed.

At the least, it goes to their state of mind and ethics. No surprises there, I suppose.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 10:35 am

Here’s what happened:
Higgins was shooting the breeze with Ben Dillaway, at the time a Labor victory at the 2019 Election looked a certainty and all the Ministerial staffers were going to be out of a job in a few months time.
She said,
The Liberal Party needs a Sex Scandal
6 weeks or so later, the Liberal Party had a very minor sex scandal involving 2 staffers, Higgins herself was part of the [high level] cover up, 2 years later it blew up again and ended up destroying the Morrison Government.
Hardly the Sex Scandal the Liberal Party needed, right?

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 18, 2023 10:36 am

Making the Referee the star of the show ruined Rugby Union.

Muddy
Muddy
May 18, 2023 10:37 am

Great comment, local oaf.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 10:38 am

It was a text conversation between Higgins and an ex boyfriend, not Sharaz.

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 10:38 am

Calli:

Favourite, favourite, favourite, REM song.
Plus the technically fine video. But that’s another story.

I’ve never been able to figure out that video. I understand there was a giant screen with multiple cameras rerecording sections of it, but it just doesn’t somehow work for me. (But I especially like the girl throwing the glass of water into the Greek woman’s face.)

calli
calli
May 18, 2023 10:41 am

I am aware of that rosie.

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 10:44 am

Wally Dalísays:
May 17, 2023 at 8:28 pm

Bruce, get some Kvelertak in your earholes.
New choon, Krøterveg Te Helvete.
Like seven bands rolled into one. Or, Led Zeppelin dosed up by Motley Crue and stuffed up inside Midnight Oil. Listen without the vision for a start on Spotify if you can, it’s honestly lifechanging.

Bloody ‘ell, Wally. There’s no Midnight Oil or Moody Blues in that. That’s just an insensate screech of rage from a pack of pseudo tough poseurs.
*Did not like*
*Would not recommend*

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:45 am

Generally small, isolated professional communities have a way of dealing with these things among themselves to reach some sort of conclusion.

Speaking of which, it would appear many Victorian barristers are not happy with their Bar Association’s public statements on the Voice, going so far as to claim that a straw poll on the matter was “rigged”.

This comes after a prominent KC publicly stated last month that their was a financial inducement for lawyers to support the Voice.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 10:47 am

It was a text conversation between Higgins and an ex boyfriend, not Sharaz.

Huh?
Sharaz wasn’t even in the picture in early 2019.
This would be at least the 20th time that Calli has raised this text conversation as some sort of cockeyed proof that Higgins made the entire thing up.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 10:48 am

there was a financial inducement…

Personally, I find the suggestion of compromised ethics in the Victorian legal fraternity offensive.

But only because it’s true.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 10:50 am

Ed Case says:
May 18, 2023 at 10:24 am

Hoggins and boyfriend were discussing the desire for a “sex scandal” well before any of this transpired. It was always there in the wings.
Former boyfriend, earlier in 2019 when Labor were a mile ahead in the Polls and Scotty appeared to be a dead duck, and the context was a Sex Scandal that assisted the Liberal Party, in other words a Sex scandal involving a Senior Labor Figure.

You’re a longstanding troll, but is it too much to ask that you be an honest troll?

Jesus Christ you’re a lunatic.

TO wit:

Police recovered a text exchange between Ms Higgins and former boyfriend Ben Dillaway dated February 7, 2019, six weeks before the alleged rape, in which the pair joked about wanting a political sex scandal.

“The bar for what counts as a political sex scandal nowadays is REALLY low,” Ms Higgins wrote.

“I want a sex scandal I can be like whoa. Impressive. Didn’t think he had it in him,” Mr Dillaway wrote.
Exactly! A sex scandal the party can be proud of. Another Barnaby but without the baby haha,” Ms Higgins responded.

Actually for primary vote, Feb 2019 is when the LNP/ALP primary vote was roughly equal, the LNP primary vote went up all to the election and the 2PP polls were pretty much exactly wrong calling it 52:48 for Labor.

These operators know how polls work and your narrative is a load of garbage.

P
P
May 18, 2023 10:51 am

Millions of people obediently absorb the message from school and university, millions more soak it up from the mouths of politicians and from the many levels of governments. Others absorb the message from the corporations and advertising industry and also the entertainment world – popular music, TV, movies and computer games.

When I attended a public high school in Sydney in the early ’50s, among many songs at Monday morning assembly we always sang:
When gallant Cook from Albion sailed,
To trace wide oceans o’er,
True British courage bore him on,
Til he landed on our shore.
Then here he raised Old England’s flag,
The standard of the brave;
With all her faults we love her still”
Britannia rules the wave.
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.

God Save the Queen our National Anthem.
(My first week it was God Save the King).

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 18, 2023 10:53 am

Special Ed is a unique commentator. Gluten free if you like.

johanna
johanna
May 18, 2023 10:54 am

I still maintain that Hoggins, Lehrmann and the two security guards should all have been summarily jobsacked as soon as the events on that Saturday morning became known by Reynolds and parliament house administration (if the latter could be dignified with such a term). Had the idiots on the security desk been even halfway competent, Hoggins and Lehrmann would never have been granted entry in the first place.

They would have been in danger of losing their jobs if they didn’t let them in.

Parliament House is a 24/7 workplace – people come and go at all hours. Security guards are obliged to let anyone with a valid pass in. It is not their job to make on the spot assessments of sobriety, nor should it be. Besides, a lot of those denied entrance on those grounds would be MPs, and that would never do. 🙂

No, it was up to their bosses to discipline them, and Lehrman was indeed disciplined – he was sacked. The genesis of the problem was Reynolds giving Brit-neh a free pass, even though she already had a track record of lying, skiving off, and being a general PITA around the office.

Why she did this is a mystery, but it is a mistake that will haunt her forever.

rickw
rickw
May 18, 2023 10:56 am

ATSIC was a well-intentioned idea that morphed into a monster.

A bog standard government initiative then!

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 10:57 am

Hmm yes well. Everyone living in office spaces. Hell on earth.

The New South Wales government will explore converting empty offices and unused government buildings into much-needed social housing, as commercial building owners grapple with a surge in vacancies.

The NSW housing minister, Rose Jackson, told Guardian Australia that providing incentives to developers to convert surplus office space presented a “good opportunity” for the state as it struggles with a soaring social housing waitlist.

While buildings in Sydney’s city centre might be too expensive, smaller commercial centres and underused government properties could be explored, the minister said.

Oh well, you knew the gravy train was coming.

Jackson said incentives for developers would “absolutely” be looked at, as well as the realities of converting spaces designed for work into homes for our most vulnerable, including challenges of light, plumbing, green spaces and balconies.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 10:57 am

“The bar for what counts as a political sex scandal nowadays is REALLY low,” Ms Higgins wrote.

“I want a sex scandal I can be like whoa. Impressive. Didn’t think he had it in him,” Mr Dillaway wrote.
Exactly! A sex scandal the party can be proud of. Another Barnaby but without the baby haha,” Ms Higgins responded.

Lehrmann’s defence didn’t think this exchange was significant, but you reckon it’s a smoking gun?
GTFOutta here, you low IQ dopehoover.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:01 am

Parliament House is a 24/7 workplace – people come and go at all hours. Security guards are obliged to let anyone with a valid pass in. It is not their job to make on the spot assessments of sobriety, nor should it be.

I think it should be a matter for contest regarding for the highest offices regarding state security. The PM, AG, Foreign and MINDEF offices should be off limits to drunk staff. If the departmental heads, Ministers or secretaries are blotto, there’s not much we can do.

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 11:01 am

Colonel Crispin:

An upcoming Disaster & Emergency Management Conference “will address the challenges associated with total communication blackout and explore strategies to mitigate its impact.”

Should we be expecting this to actually happen here during next 18 months?
There is precedent for these hypotheticals suddenly becoming actuals.

That was my first thought, Colonel.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 11:03 am

The genesis of the problem was Reynolds giving Brit-neh a free pass, even though she already had a track record of lying, skiving off, and being a general PITA around the office.
You just made this up to curry favor, right?

Why she did this is a mystery, but it is a mistake that will haunt her forever.

It wouldn’t have anything to do with Higgins disclosing that she’d been raped by the other staffer on the morning in question, d’ya think?

rickw
rickw
May 18, 2023 11:03 am

Libya hasn’t downed any airliners lately and who hears about Iraq now?

Gaddafi had been playing nice for sometime. Rex Tillerson had met with him prior to his demise about XOM getting back into Libya.

Gaddafi getting taken out was pretty left field. You get the sense in his final minutes that he was pretty incensed at having been double crossed.

Tom
Tom
May 18, 2023 11:05 am

A bog standard government initiative then!

Every government department and government program has a single inviolable objective that they faithfully follow year after year without fail — to make the government bigger.

rickw
rickw
May 18, 2023 11:07 am

beats taking half his wealth

Oz norm is 70-90.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 11:08 am

Jackson said incentives for developers would “absolutely” be looked at, as well as the realities of converting spaces designed for work into homes for our most vulnerable…

How many of our “most vulnerable” would, in a previous era, have been housed in mental hospitals?

Yes, I know it’s not ideal, but surely it’s more humane than leaving them to fend for themselves on the streets.

Lysander
Lysander
May 18, 2023 11:09 am

I just wanted to announce to Cats that I am in the process of transitioning…

You see, like most Sandgropers, for some dumb-f-ck reason we are programmed to get home (tired) and automatically press “7” on the remote. In 2021 I “transitioned” to Tucker and never watched MSM again (but still stayed with Fox).

Now I’m totally off MSM, said goodbye to Fox and am usually on Rumble.

Crowder is good to watch and so is War Room but Bannon does annoy me how he thinks he needs to get more words in than his guests. Last night I really wanted to hear Rudy’s thoughts on Bill Barr (who should’ve prosecuted Killary and certain FBI folks) but Bannon kept interrupting ffs…

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 11:09 am

Just catching up – OK. Seen the “How they did it REM Video.”
Cool.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:10 am

Lehrmann’s defence didn’t think this exchange was significant

He knew better than to bring it up, even though he didn’t know it existed. A silly article from Sam Maiden.

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/i-asked-you-a-question-prosecutor-confronts-bruce-lehrmanns-barrister-over-media-leaks/news-story/80aa62c6e95a8aff280ff2c7a3a04def

Why is the defence not allowed to bring up police doubts about their complainant or leak it after the trial is abandoned?

How ridiculous.

Bruce Lehrmann’s barrister, Steve Whybrow, received a 7am phone call from a furious prosecutor after the rape trial, demanding to know whether the defence team had leaked sensitive police documents critical of Brittany Higgins.

Let’s see why Skye Jerome thinks this is a crime or unprofessional. Or accusing other barristers at 7 AM in the morning.

Slamming the explosive document as “inadmissable opinion evidence”, the ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold has detailed the extraordinary power struggle between the AFP and the DPP.

Hey champ, here’s how it’s not inadmissible: The cops get asked questions in examination regarding the document. You know this, or maybe you forgot.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 11:13 am

Every government department and government program has a single inviolable objective that they faithfully follow year after year without fail — to make the government bigger.

Bit of a concern hearing the ChatGPT developer the other day begging the US government to make AI a “force for good.”

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:14 am

Reprinted for laughs.

Ed Case says:
May 16, 2023 at 7:58 am

Communist partisans murdered Mussolini.
Were they Italians?
Probably not.

It is laughable how Ed Case/Septimus/Grigory M exhibits oppositional defiance as some sort of mental illness to “own” conservative and libertarian commentators and discussion.

Execution of Mussolini, as carried out by Italian communist partisans.
Ordered by: Luigi Longo and Palmiro Togliatti
Execution (shooting) carried out by: Walter Audisio and Aldo Lampredi along with Michele Moretti, Bellini delle Stelle and Urbano Lazzaro.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 11:15 am

I still maintain that Hoggins, Lehrmann and the two security guards should all have been summarily jobsacked as soon as the events on that Saturday morning became known by Reynolds and parliament house administration (if the latter could be dignified with such a term).

What “events”?
According to Lehrmann, he either
#1. Fiddled with Post It notes while Hihhins was crashed on the couch
#2. Drank Whiskey
#3. Wrote a speech for Reynolds
One issue that hasn’t been explained is why Lehrmann intentionally left his Pass at home and signed in at reception when according to his Evidence, he always intended to go to Parliament House that night/following morning.
That’s [according to Reynolds, who couldn’t lie straight in bed] why he was sacked.
If he’d shown up with his Pass, no problemo there.

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 11:18 am

Alamak!@#$

Elbow was asked several times on air if he would legislate for a Voice if the referendum failed. And several times he refused to answer. This whole thing may get a bit “constitutional” if the will of the people is disregarded in such a blatant way.

I initially said that if the Referendum didn’t get up, it would be introduced at state level. It looks like that is precisely what is going to happen, and it’s happening already before we even get the opportunity to kick it in the nuts.
Our Labor governments are out of our control and they will enable their entire social policies despite our objections.
This is where we need recall elections and Citizens veto. Which is why we don’t have them.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:19 am

UFC Fighter Tim Elliot wasn’t alpha enough, couldn’t maintain “frame” and did not project male discipline to a rebellious female spirit that craves spanking, etc.

If only he bought the pheromone soap and learnt “game”.

UFC fighter Tim Elliott accuses ex-wife of cheating on him with friend on wedding night

https://www.foxsports.com.au/ufc/ufc-fighter-tim-elliott-accuses-exwife-of-cheating-on-him-with-friend-on-wedding-night/news-story/47261475ff5d71036d90fe925beb234d

When UFC fighters Tim Elliott and Gina Mazany were engaged on July 28, 2020, Elliott had no idea Kevin Croom would be intimately involved in their relationship.

But Elliott is claiming that his teammate and friend Croom and Mazany had a relationship throughout Elliott’s marriage to Mazany, including on their wedding night.

Elliott, 36, posted a photo on Twitter that he said shows Mazany reading wedding vows to Elliott’s daughter, with UFC star Croom holding the microphone for her.

Turned out better than the War Machine freakout, beatings, rapes and life sentence.

johanna
johanna
May 18, 2023 11:19 am

I think it should be a matter for contest regarding for the highest offices regarding state security. The PM, AG, Foreign and MINDEF offices should be off limits to drunk staff. If the departmental heads, Ministers or secretaries are blotto, there’s not much we can do.

Get real, Dot.

Are you suggesting that all pass-holders except those you mentioned should be breathalysed before being allowed into the building? Or should the low-paid, low status grunts on the door be charged with deciding who might be drunk, whatever that is firstly defined as meaning? What if the Defence Minister wants to bring a staff member with him/her who might be intoxicated?

What about visitors? If the PM’s CoS comes to the door to sign in a delegation of diplomats, or businessmen, who have just had a convivial lunch, what should happen?

For someone who claims to be all for individual freedom, you exhibit a remarkably authoritarian streak sometimes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 11:21 am

FitzSimons. SMH:…What the Voice is about is simply trying to make a structural change to that playing field so that, I repeat: “Aboriginal people can be consulted on matters that affect Aboriginal people.” Which already happens you monumental clown. The only thing he ever gets right is “I repeat”

I repeat, regional autonomy is a better solution than “The Voice”.

And I repeat, the NO side need to get serious about Albo’s mollifying words that nothing bad will happen from it. Saying that ‘yes’ is a ‘racist’ vote and that No is about anti-racism is NOT the way to tell people the truth. That’s just argy-bargy over the word racism. Cut to the chase and inform voters that an unelected body of appointees who cannot be dismissed will INSIST on treaties, reparations and a say about everything that happens in Australia and that as with native title, the High Court will agree with them. Parliament will be made IRRELEVANT. The current wording ALLOWS THIS.

This is not democracy as we have known it so far. Our Constitution should not be altered. Vote NO.

Not sorry for shouting. We need to shout, and loudly, and soon, about this.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:21 am

I don’t see how not letting in Lehrmann and Higgins who were pissed and not going to do any work is “authoritarian” but people think they should be sacked. If they should have been sacked, they should not have been there.

How is that authoritarian and how have you “owned” me with this inference?

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 11:22 am

Cassie of Sydney:

Yep, all this Ed Sheeran/Taylor Swift rubbish leaves me cold.
I still love Talking Heads and Simple Minds too.

I haven’t bought a music CD/DVD in the last 20 years.
Because modern music is crap.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 11:22 am

Our Labor governments are out of our control and they will enable their entire social policies despite our objections.

The Voice is small beer compared to what the states are engaging in.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 11:27 am

Why was Lehrmann in the habit of showing up at odd hours without his Pass?
Does the Pass allow security to track the holders whereabouts in the building?

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
May 18, 2023 11:29 am

Cut to the chase and inform voters that an unelected body of appointees who cannot be dismissed will INSIST on treaties, reparations and a say about everything that happens in Australia and that as with native title, the High Court will agree with them. Parliament will be made IRRELEVANT. The current wording ALLOWS THIS.

Lizzie, this will be Joe Biden x 5,000,000. Every person born here (and some that aren’t) will be claiming 10% on every transaction in the country. It’s little more than a massive money grab.

Robert Sewell
May 18, 2023 11:32 am

Grey Ranga:

ZK2A I’m pretty sure Jordan kicked the Pali’s out coz the are perpetual troublemakers. The only thing Pali’s are successful at is failure.

IIRC, Black September arose from the Jordanian expulsion of them because they tried to create a civil war against the King.
The response – again IIRC – was that the KIng of Jordan surrounded their main city with all his artillery and shelled the shit out of them for a week, while having his army shoot anyone trying to escape. The survivors were then packed onto a ship and sent to Lebanon which was the only country that would take them. At the time, Lebanon was a Christian country and the Palestinians did there what they failed to do in Jordan – started a civil war which has left Lebanon a wrecked state ever since.
No one has tried liberating Lebanon from the Palestinians since. Why would you bother liberating such stupid people from the consequences of their stupid decision?

I’m sure someone will correct the parts I’ve got wrong.

rickw
rickw
May 18, 2023 11:32 am

Are you suggesting that all pass-holders except those you mentioned should be breathalysed before being allowed into the building?

That’s where most of the corporate world has been pushed to. Guaranteed if you operate any sort of machinery.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 11:34 am

I haven’t bought a music CD/DVD in the last 20 years.
Because modern music is crap.

The last contemporary release I purchased was Bob Weir’s Blue Mountain (2015).

It’s not crap, but then again it isn’t exactly “modern music” either.

Yeah, he’s an old hippie, but I give him a pass on that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 18, 2023 11:42 am

Recall, when Lehrmann hurriedly left the building alone about an hour after he entered with Higgins, security began a frantic search of the building for Higgins.
So, Lehrmann was intentionally signing in with I.D. rather than taking his Pass, which indicates that he didn’t want his movements in the building tracked or recorded.
Did the cops question him about that?
It doesn’t look like it.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:42 am

From Tim Pool: Fetter synapses arcing wildly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG_EzV4C1w8

Fetterman Incoherent RAMBLING Goes Viral, Media PRAISES Garbled Nonsense, Democrats Are INSANE

Welp

Fetterman: “Gub dahn, jixood mongtar bishaad?”
Democrat propaganda media: “OMG HES SO AMAZING AND ARTICULATE”

“His dream to be in the senate” – I did not know the Make a Wish foundation was able to do that.

Is it staggering is it a staggering resp…sense of responsibility that that that the head of a bank could literally could literally crash our economy..it’s astonishing…that’s like if you have I mean like and and they also realise that that now they have it’s in in a guaranteed a guaranteed way to be saved by a new manner again by a new manner and by how you know, you know and isn’t it appropriate these that these kinds of control should be more stricter to prevent this kind of thing from growing or should we just go on and just start to bailing and sailing any bank regardless of how of how there there sound there conduct is….you know, I’ll, I’ll give you an example, err, the Republicans want to give a work requirement for SNAP…err, err, err, you know for you know a hungry family has to have these sorts of penalties or working requirements…shouldn’t your bank have a working requirement after we sail your bank with billions in your bank…because they say we weren’t prudent, preoccupied err with then SNAP requirements for works for hungry people but not about protecting the tax…taxpapers that will bail out them no matter what with the bank crashing.

That question makes no sense. “Vote blue, no matter who!”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 11:43 am

Our Labor governments are out of our control and they will enable their entire social policies despite our objections.

At least Labor can be voted out and a government with the power to legislate out those very same Labor policies can be voted in (I’m thinking ahead here to generations of the future, my grandchildren perhaps, not today’s stupid effing Liberals). Once in the structure of the Constitution, the Voice and High Court approval of any weird scheme of ‘redress’ they care to write into our laws (see Native Title for how they do this) could sell Australia completely down the sinkhole.

Voting No is the only way to keep the current lunacy within the bounds of politics rather than enshrined as unchangeable due to the very system under which we are governed. De-establishing what is done, even by another Constitutional Referendum, is almost too hard. Consider Native Title being removed now at High Court level. Even without Constitutional backing, which would make it impossible to remove, dismantling what has grown out of it would be an extremely difficult barrow to push now it’s embedded in practice. We need to persuade people that the Voice is deeply undemocratic and dangerous. Not just that it’s racist (which it is, but people will still say that doesn’t matter as we need to be kind). We need to say it is dangerous, which it also is. That’s much more convincing.

Later generations will look back on what we have done and weep if this Voice attack gets up.

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:45 am

John Fetterman really caught the witness off guard. His question was a master stroke!

Dot
Dot
May 18, 2023 11:45 am

Biden Fatterman 2024 – It’s a no brainer!

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
May 18, 2023 11:47 am

Later generations will look back on what we have done and weep if this Voice attack gets up.

Fortunately Albo’s ambition far exceeds his competence. He’s screwing it up and doubling down.

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
May 18, 2023 11:49 am

Biden Fatterman 2024 – It’s a no brainer!

Indeed they are, Dot, indeed they are.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 11:51 am

I think you’ll find the states have been quietly handing over quite a bit.
The Yorta Yorta native title claim failed all the way to the High Court.
What did the state government do?
yorta yorta website
https://www.sheppnews.com.au/news/historic-barmah-joint-management-plan-launched/barma management plan

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 18, 2023 11:51 am

Cassie of Sydney
May 18, 2023 at 7:00 am
Rugby Australia adds its voice to the “Yes” vote.

Seriously, these cretins should stick to the knitting of sport, particularly so in RA’s case.

How can anyone say that Rugby Australia adds its voice? Rugby Australia (such as it is) can’t have an opinion. People can. Not organisations. What has really happened is a handful of people at a certain level within the organisation had a vote. Well, everyone has opinions. It is possible (perhaps likely) that most players and most people who work for RA support the ‘No’ vote. Yet RA comes out 100% for yes?

And how would this handful of people have decided which way to vote. If they claim to be speaking for RA how much of it was because they think they are following the zeitgeist as revealed in surveys (so often by partisan organisations who feel the nobility of their cause excuses a little jiggery pokery). Perhaps they worry about the bad publicity that activist groups blackmail them with to extract compliance. Perhaps they have looked into ‘incentives’ from the government, which are neatly paired with sanctions if they choose wrong – funding, promotions, and so on.

No one should take RA’s position as anything serious or real. “They’ve got one job…”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 18, 2023 11:52 am

Comment, from the Oz.

bob
6 hours ago
The voice has nothing to do with consultation and being heard. It is about power-sharing, treaties, reparations, pay-backs, compensation and highly paid sinecures for the indigenous elite. The goal is clear. People need to wake up. It will change our system of Government with an unelected self-interested cohort pulling the strings. As Peta says “you have been warned”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 11:52 am

It’s little more than a massive money grab.

Indeed it is, Beery. That can work to send us broke.
More frighteningly, it is also a POWER grab.
That can work to take away all of our freedoms the Australians died for.

Vote No.

rosie
rosie
May 18, 2023 11:53 am

Why bother with any claim by Ed there’s CCTV inside the minister’s office Case?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 18, 2023 11:56 am

Aussie
1 hour ago
If sovereignty was never ceded then what do the first Australians owe the WW1 and WW2 veteran’s families for keeping the country free from total invasion (a real one!).

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 11:56 am

The voice has nothing to do with consultation and being heard. It is about power-sharing, treaties, reparations, pay-backs, compensation and highly paid sinecures for the indigenous elite.

All of which will be effected by the states regardless of what happens with the Voice.

The Queensland government is already working out a formula for reparations and promising indigenous activists roles in the education system and criminal justice as part of treaty negotiations.

dopey
dopey
May 18, 2023 11:58 am

Rugby Australia: “Half a century later, too many First Nations communities are still plagued by social and economic inequality.” Why call it alcoholism and violence when you can blame inequality.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 11:59 am

Zulu at 11.52. So true.
The other day I put up here the run in I had with moderators on the Oz, accusing the paper of outright censorship. Two weeks later a top editor agreed with me and my comment similar to 11.52 above was restored. They now seem to be allowing such comments. Probably I wasn’t a lone ‘voice’ (lol) in forcing them to acknowledge outright moderating censorship, but I like to think I played me part in it.

All subscribers should keep up the pressure. It can help to change opinion.
So can talking to the undecided in one’s family and acquaintance.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
May 18, 2023 11:59 am

and promising indigenous activists roles in the education system and criminal justice as part of treaty negotiations.

Are there even ENOUGH aboriginals in Australia for all these promised jobs?

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 12:00 pm

The QLD Minister for Aboriginal and TI Partnerships, as he is called, is boasting that the “indigenous economy” will be worth tens of billions of dollars in the not too distant future as the 150 “first nations” of QLD invest their reparations money.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 12:00 pm

Rugby Australia: “Half a century later, too many First Nations communities are still plagued by social and economic inequality.” Why call it alcoholism and violence when you can blame inequality.

And how will the anti-colonialism and kultcha mucking of The Voice change any of this?

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 12:02 pm

Are there even ENOUGH aboriginals in Australia for all these promised jobs?

There’s no shortage of people willing to “identify” to get a seat on the gravy train.

Academia is already full of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 18, 2023 12:02 pm

the “indigenous economy” will be worth tens of billions of dollars in the not too distant future as the 150 “first nations” of QLD invest their reparations money.

Tax revenues from beer and smokes will be secured for a good future?

Native Title money has done so well so far in this regard.

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
May 18, 2023 12:04 pm

More frighteningly, it is also a POWER grab.

Absolutely. The power is to ensure the money, but power is corrupting so becomes an end in itself.

In other words, the end result will be far worse than the bad intentions they’re starting out with. It’s not what happens year 1 that matters, but year 20. Fortunately, Maori hubris gives us a direct window into the future.

Roger
Roger
May 18, 2023 12:06 pm

Tax revenues from beer and smokes will be secured for a good future?

Native Title money has done so well so far in this regard.

They’re looking at the Maori system of investments creating an asset base and an income stream as a model, Lizzie.

I’d call that cultural appropriation, but who am I to judge?

The Maori do quite well, apparently.

The welfare rolls should be lightened considerably (cough).

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