Open Thread – Weekend 20 May 2023
1,660 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 20 May 2023”
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Flyinduk:
It is interesting to muse on whether war *is* an illness in of itself, or a symptom of some other malady.
If the former, regarding it as a ‘public health problem’ (something to be stamped out early and at all costs) is valid. If the latter, such eradication attempts will be futile.
Given the repeated failure of ceasefires to eradicate wars (Korea, Gaza etc) I suspect war is closer to a symptom than a disease.Not sure if you got my reference.
The US made the point that the use of a chemical, biological, or mass armoured attack was the equivalent of a nuclear weapon in terms of their reprisal. Which makes sense really. A nation of 25 million is not going to have the manpower capabilities that a nation of 1.5 billion would have. Therefore they need biological or chemical weapons to level the field. -
The bomb over Nagasaki was dropped about halfway between two military targets.
My book stated it was several kilometres short of the intended target.incidentally the Emperor overruled the military the day after the Nagasaki bombing.
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the female conductor of the ballet orchestra stood up and said “we are on Gadigal land”, and then she said “we stand with Stan Grant“. I nearly fell of my chair in shock, my sister nearly sprayed her bottle of water over herself in shock,
And at that point, I would have taken my leave whether or not I was busting to see the performance.
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War is about theft
and destruction, just for the hell of it. The history of humanity looks a lot more sanitised given I was never let off the leash of civilian life, thank bloody goodness.
Yet, it may still happen. See this clip essaying Cap’n Stransky’s arrival at the Eastern front and the description of his nemesis, the Universal Soldier, Corporal Steiner.
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Assume I don’t and explain it to me without silly assertions such as this.
You’re very comfortable having a crack at someone, the basis for which is something out of that persons control.
Says a lot about you.Re abuse others cop;
Believe it or not I’m with you there. The problem with your mate monty is he very rarely comments in good faith, choosing mostly to troll.
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It’s Dreamtime at the G tonight
Richmond vs Essendon
As a paid up Tiger supporter for 21 years I have been to quite a few of these.
I have absolutely no need to be welcomed to country having been there on over 240 occasions
Take the train to Jolimont line up at Gate 3 and sit in Bay 53 . Easy
I find the ceremonies cringeworthy, condescending ,ridiculous and extremely pointless
Fat white blokes dressed in …. What exactly ?
None of the performance , from lighting, amplification , music , venue , crowd would be possible without the arrival of you know who
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You’re very comfortable having a crack at someone, the basis for which is something out of that persons control.
Says a lot about you.Oh really, but you remained silent when Hallward made pejorative references to my ethnic background. What control did I have about that Wally?
Also, illiterate and all – even if he can’t help it, he was progressive enough to volunteer at the front line with the other pile-onners against Liz and Rosie too recently. Incidentally he tried out a smart arse assertion on me earlier, which started it all. Yet you only have eyes for me. How noble of you, Bushmaster.
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It is interesting to muse on whether war *is* an illness in of itself, or a symptom of some other malady.
War is what happens when memeplexes collide. If one memeplex controls a nation, and if it contains the meme that members of that nation are intended to control and/ or enslave members of any other nation, then war is inevitable. Not necessarily a shooting war, those are rather inefficient and old fashioned, but a war.
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JMH says: May 20, 2023 at 7:05 pm
the female conductor of the ballet orchestra stood up and said “we are on Gadigal land”, and then she said “we stand with Stan Grant“. I nearly fell of my chair in shock, my sister nearly sprayed her bottle of water over herself in shock,
And at that point, I would have taken my leave whether or not I was busting to see the performance.
I’d have loudly heckled with something like: “Then bugger off & stand with him, or stick to the programme, you subsidized grant monkey!”
There’s nothing quite like heated glares & perhaps an easily demolished counter-riposte or two from any subsidized grant monkeys who happen to be in nearby seats.
Example: Watching “Australia” (Huge Ackman, Nick Ol’ Kidman) had lotsa opportunities to shout “utter bullshit” into the cinema, thus triggering nearby woke sheilas.
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Upthread it was noted the sports and players and camaraderie gleaned, with everyone striving for excellence.
It never leaves you. Was roped into having a game of footy today, loved every minute of it. Despite the swollen ankle, bruised ribs and now back cramps, I will be back.
It’s the same with bowls. Champions of physical sport cannot rid themselves of competition. So they get into a pursuit like this.
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Feel free to check out Wally’s Archibald post, even if it’s just to click on the link and roll your eyes at the entries.
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Ed Casesays:
May 20, 2023 at 1:05 pm
The stuff he is posting would be a slam dunk for a defamation lawyer.
The stuff you and plenty of others have been posting about Higgins non stop for 2 years would be a Slam Dunk for a Defamation Lawyer too, then?
Well, wrong again Googlery KC.
What has been said here about Britnah is basically on the public record and confirmed by none other than Britnah herself.
Trivia like she sometimes forgets her pants and, of course, more important stuff like that she is a serial liar.
You see, the problem for Team Britnah with any defamation claim for that stuff is that she has to repudiate what she has already said … under oath.
Y’know, like, perjury man.
And the other more tenuous stuff, like the political connections between Mr Sharaz and others, well, I don’t reckon Ms “cleared my phone” Britnah would want to go through discovery on that, do you?
She’s got three million reasons not to.
You, on the other hand, have been accusing an innocent man of rape.
Keep it up, champ, and you stand a good chance of ending up in phase 2 of Lehrmann’s payday.
Remember Nick Sandman?
Having fried the big fish, he is still churning through the minnows.
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We need lots more of this. These buggers have been exploiting our good manners for much too long. If your good manners are a weakness, get rid of them.
I think I would have been very tempted to stand up after the clapping an announce “Well, I don’t, I don’t stand by him.”
Cassie, you should write a letter to complain to the Company about political indoctrination at the ballet.
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areffsays:
May 20, 2023 at 6:56 pm
To put a turbine in deep water requires huge amounts of concrete, drilling and general disruptionPretty sure the albatross-choppers the Danfilth is installing off Gippy are the floating variety. How you go about doing that is for someone else to explain.
Look to the failed tidal generation systems (all in OZ have failed) for an indication of the probable success rate.
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Cap’n Stransky’s arrival at the Eastern front
David Warner is one of my favourite actors. And Lee Marvin is everyone’s favourite actor.
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Example: Watching “Australia” (Huge Ackman, Nick Ol’ Kidman) had lotsa opportunities to shout “utter bullshit” into the cinema, thus triggering nearby woke sheilas.
Some of the next generation walked out of “Rabbit Proof Fence.” Their great grandparents were farming on the Rabbit Proof Fence at the time the film was set, and they never remembered three Aboriginal girls, with a police party in pursuit.
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And at that point, I would have taken my leave whether or not I was busting to see the performance.
We did that very pointedly at a hideous woke commedian on a cruise ship. As he really wound up on his TDS, Hairy says in a loud voice ‘Let’s Go’, and we ‘excused me’d’ along the row till we could exit. Lots of people noticed.
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So I will also be celebrating World Whisk(e)y Day. The fact that I only have Johnny Walker Red to celebrate with is neither here nor there.
This is absolutely correct.
What one person enjoys with their grog is not connected to what another person enjoys with theirs.
A person who enjoys their JW Red is not having an inferior experience to someone who prefers Aberlour Cask Strength with branch water (as the Americans call it). There is not some remote place in the universe where one person’s taste is being objectively compared to another’s.
When I drink the drink I like all anyone else can see is my rolling eyes and lolling tongue. They don’t actually experience my taste.
My Dad loved him a Chivas Regal. I remember seeing him take a long sip, ease back in his chair, let his eyelids descend like light at dusk, and exhale softly with extreme contentment. As much as anyone might hope for. Nothing ‘inferior’ or ‘less refined’ there at all.
I can get that sometimes.
Anyone swirling a ‘cheap’ scotch the love in a glass – I am there swirling with you. If it is inexpensive then lucky you – but I do not for a moment doubt the pleasure you feel.
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Sometimes these acts of vile propagandizing hit you so fast and when least expected – completely blindsided.
Lefites would jeer and stomp, however good manners is often the fall back position for reasonable people to shock. I understand why you didn’t create on the spot Cassie.
Next time…and there will be a next time.
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If ever one photo captured the madness of the COVID era, might it be the leading male health officer of the United States wearing a skirt and getting injected in what appears to be a pediatric setting?
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Mother Load:
Anyone swirling a ‘cheap’ scotch the love in a glass – I am there swirling with you. If it is inexpensive then lucky you – but I do not for a moment doubt the pleasure you feel.
Umm.
Mother Load, I’m not sure how to break this to you, but I’m, like, taking the piss about having JW Red in da ‘ouse.
I’m much more refined than that – I’m actually drinking XXXX Bitter.
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Sounds like you’ve done this before. Might as well add interest as well. There is usually a statutory rate somewhere.
Sure thing, I used to do this to good effect when Insurance companies did not pay our client’s compensation monies for months I would do just that and at the time the statutory rate was 9.5%
I recall a legendary legal eagle, many decade ago now, whose client had not been settlement monies for many months and despite many requests for payment, the solicitor went through the process and ended up having a winding up order issued and served it on the insurance company – hilarity ensued and the money issued tout suite. Remember this was many years ago, they’ve probably made it illegal now, because of course nowadays it’s insurance companies that run the world we live in.
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“Sometimes these acts of vile propagandizing hit you so fast and when least expected – completely blindsided.
Lefites would jeer and stomp, however good manners is often the fall back position for reasonable people to shock. I understand why you didn’t create on the spot Cassie.
Next time…and there will be a next time.”
Thanks calli. As you and others here know, I’m no shrinking violet when it comes to fighting battles against progressives and progressivism. As for the ballet, my sister and I were shocked, quite speechless. We will be penning a letter of complaint.
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Keep it up, champ, and you stand a good chance of ending up in phase 2 of Lehrmann’s payday.
Weren’t you running a similar fairytale about Lord Alister McAlpine getting a series of defamation payouts a few years back?
Old McAlpine went to water when someone stood up to him.
Lehrmann might be getting a Courtroom door payday off NewsCorp & CBS, but a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, know what I mean?
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Cite you an ANZAC Day service that began with a “welcome to country.” Two of the local veterans walked out, and it was years before I went to another one.
My sentiments exactly. Veterans should generally be the ones organising or I would hope, being consulted, about the agenda for ANZAC Day and as such it is more than disappointing that there are some amongst us who have drank the coolade.I have built a small veterans memorial for our local community in country Tasmania and hold a local service whenever I can on ANZAC Day. Encouragingly we had more than 50 there this year and you can rest assured that there is no ‘welcome to country’ component to our services.
If there was I would also leave and not return.
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I feel sick just posting this.
A wind energy company has pleaded guilty after killing at least 150 eagles
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Next time you think about voting Liberal, just remember this, an assortment of racist grievance mongers and LGBTQI+ activists have used various state “Human Rights Commissions” to go after and silence….
1. Lyle Shelton
2. Kirralee Smith
3. Sall Grover
4. Bernard Gaynor
5. Isaac Butterfield,and many others, Christians, mums and dads and so on
Remember how every state and federal Liberal government over the last fifteen years has been too cowardly and too craven to even try and close down these monstrous Stalinist chamber of horrors.
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Via one of Indolent’s links above:
Have you heard about Martial Simon, a 61 year old homeless man from NYC who had mental illness? He was a repeat offender and was out on parole for armed robbery.
In 2022 he was harassing patrons at the subway station and threatening them. No one did anything. Everyone stood by because they were more afraid of the cancel mob than this lunatic. He walked behind 40 year old Michelle Alyssa Go and shoved her in front of an oncoming train. She died at the scene.
@AOC did not attend her funeral. She did not get a golden casket.
[Source].
When it gets to a point where no words can be found in the language you speak, to express your perception of life around you – how alien it has become – you begin imagining that if you had superpowers, you’d summon an asteroid…
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feelthebernsays:
May 20, 2023 at 4:10 pm
I have no idea whether Whybrow’s statement that Wilkinson’s speech (and resultant trial delay) effectively got Lehrmann off is true or not.
One thing is for sure.
It is epic, Olympic standard trolling.
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One could only imagine the texts between Wilkinson & co today.Trooble at mill, with Team Britnah?
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Watching Indiana Jones in Shanghai.
That movie has got to be deep sixed by the WEF if they really want people to eat bugs.
Which gives me an idea for a song!Bomb The Bass – Bug Powder Dust (1994)
I think it’s time for you boys to share my last taste of the true black meat; the flesh of the giant, aquatic, Brazilian centipede
Clearly spoken by Harrison Ford, but I can’t work out where the clip comes from.
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There – I’ve stated it, Cats.
Feel free to try and prove me wrong. Remember, I am the judge. So no Eddles type idiocy will be tolerated.
Or else it’s straight into the nearest waste material recepticle. 🙂
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A wind energy company has pleaded guilty after killing at least 150 eagles
Yeah, sad news today from my neck of the woods.
Norah Head locals calling for consultation period to be extended for Hunter Offshore Wind Zone (Ncl local news, 20 May)
Some kms south of where I am, and on the coast. At least someone is protesting a bit. But the green bird mashers are nearly unstoppable, like the Terminator. Some years ago I wrote to my local council to oppose such things and got a sympathetic hearing – we don’t have any in our LCA yet. But keeping them out is going to be hard.
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Good grief.
I dearly hope that this is bullsh*t. My gut says it isn’t … that’s not enough though. Follow ups and more verification needed. If Oma was alive I’d be asking to her to verify the Dutch commentary with those two young children.
If proven to be true ( not sure at this stage – you have to be weary of ‘leaked’ information ) we are indeed in a very evil place at the moment.
Leaked WHO Files Reveal Plan To Force Kids To Have Sexual Partners
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Modern life is rubbish
I tried to “crack onto” a chick in Newcastle back in about 2005 (?) who was a pommy academic. We discussed this topic for at least an hour.
She affirmed my hypothesis.
Take note, BoN.
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Aha, got it! It’s from Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs. There’s fillum version from 1991, although Harrison Ford isn’t in the cast list. Maybe it was a different actor though, who sounds like him. Betcha it gets cancelled by the woke before long. I can’t wait for my first taste of the true black meat, for the planet.
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Grandp Cletus
Have you found those 1943 Japanese surrender terms yet? You know, the ones that they would have accepted when they controlled much of China, all of South-East Asia, Taiwan, the Philippines, Indonesia, the Mandated Territory of New Guinea, New Britain, half of the Solomon Islands and most of Micronesia? Were they going to abandon their Co-Prosperity sphere, all to keep the Emperor?
Don’t be shy, give us the link to the terms.
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June 21 2018
Katy Gallagher has a new job, at Calvary Hospital
Former ACT chief minister and ousted senator Katy Gallagher has taken a job with Calvary Hospital, where she could have a role in negotiating the hosptial’s funding agreement with the ACT government.Old article, but interesting in view of the recent developments re Calvary Hospital.
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Modern life rubbish?
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Compares the speed with which three million quid was dropped into Brittany’s account, with the treatment dealt out to an Afghanistan veteran – FIVE TOURS, F.F.S – who was paying for his medical treatment out of his own pocket, and who took his life waiting for D.V.A to process his claims.
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Modern life is rubbish.
There – I’ve stated it, Cats.I really love tracks with backing singers Rabz. That’s one of the best of them.
Sad news that The Smiths’ bassist Andy Rourke died of pancreatic yesterday.
This track is an appropriate epitaph: -
Don’t be shy, give us the link to the terms.
Boambee John, over on the old thread, you posted that Chester Nimitz claimed that the United States Navy would be unable to support any Allied invasion of Japan.
Old age, and a liking for strong drink, may have dulled my memory, but that’s the first time I’ve heard that one. Could I trouble you for a reference?
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Thanks, BoN – terrible news.
I was a huge fan of the Smiths. They succeeded the Jam as the biggest band in England from about ’87 onwards.
I would go out tonight, but I haven’t got a white Levi’s jacket to spare 🙂
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Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
May 20, 2023 at 9:04 pm
Don’t be shy, give us the link to the terms.Boambee John, over on the old thread, you posted that Chester Nimitz claimed that the United States Navy would be unable to support any Allied invasion of Japan.
Old age, and a liking for strong drink, may have dulled my memory, but that’s the first time I’ve heard that one. Could I trouble you for a reference?
Sorry Zulu, I don’t record detailed references, it would detract from my reading time.
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Searching for a reference, but by memory Nimitz’s commentary related to the capacity of the Fleet to maintain support in the face a sustained Kamakaze assault.
The context was the revelation that intelligence sources believed that the Japanese military still had a reserve of 5,000 aircraft of all types. -
Zulu
A quick search found this.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/victory-in-japan-army-navy-1945
The key words:
“The intelligence revelations were a godsend to Admiral King who was always determined to prevent an invasion of Japan in accord with longstanding navy convictions. King had advised his JCS colleagues in April that he only assented to issuing a preparatory order for OLYMPIC to ready the invasion option by November. But he pointedly added they would come back in August or September to reexamine whether an invasion was necessary. He also knew the senior Naval officer in the Pacific, Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz, at the end of May had privately informed King that he could no longer support any invasion of Japan based on the Okinawa experience.”
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Zulu
Another extract, relevant to discussions today:
“King’s alternative strategy was the Navy’s long preferred one of blockade. It was the most ruthless strategy Americans contemplated in 1945. The blockade explicitly aimed to cut off food supplies and kill millions of Japanese, mostly civilians, from starvation. Atomic weapons then available lacked the power or numbers to kill by measures more than thousands. Critics of how the war ended quote statements by Naval officers that the war could have been ended without atomic bombs. What the critics do not disclose is that this alternate means to end the war aimed to kill Japanese by the millions.”
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I first watched this film released in 1986 in a classroom in High School.
Memories.
Everybody Wants To Rule The World – Ferris Bueller Music Video
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Rabz, I’m getting a feel for the next monthly extravaganza. Blur, James, Smiths, Bomb The Bass.
Something is linking all them…what is it?I’ll contribute this one to help you out:
Oasis – Cigarettes & Alcohol (1994)
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https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/victory-in-japan-army-navy-1945
That’s by Richard B Frank – it was his book “Downfall” that revealed that the Japanese Army was pouring troops into Kyushu to the point where any American invasion would have faced even odds against the Japanese defenders, and that the Americans were planning on detonating six bombs to isolate the invasion beaches.
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a sustained Kamakaze assault.
I saw this one today: that the Japanese weren’t terribly interested in German jet engine tech until they worked out how good it would be for kamikazi warfare.
https://twitter.com/karyu201/status/1659601022262689794
An observation worth some thought. The Me-262 was a beautiful aeroplane. I only have now came across this guy’s twitter feed, but from a quick peruse it’s worth a look for some really serious military aircraft stuff.
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chrislsays:
May 20, 2023 at 7:09 pm
It’s Dreamtime at the G tonight
Richmond vs Essendon
As a paid up Tiger supporter for 21 years I have been to quite a few of these.
I have absolutely no need to be welcomed to country …I always toon in the telly two minutes after scheduled start time to avoid it.
I guess you can’t do that at the ground.
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