Open Thread – Tues 30 May 2023


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Delta A
Delta A
May 30, 2023 8:09 pm

What happens on the blog remains on the blog.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 8:09 pm

If true, despicable.

it’s true … I watched in real time

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 8:10 pm

You can’t get any lower than that.

No. That’s low, and rather troubling. It sounds a bit mental to me.

rosie
rosie
May 30, 2023 8:11 pm

You are probably right Crossie, whatever way it goes it will be squabbled over and squandered.
There’s been rivers of money via welfare and royalties for decades.
Have things improved for the majority?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 8:11 pm

as I’m big-hearted like that. ?

Yes, you are. Mater gave you his tick of approval at our lunch and I was impressed with that.

If ever we meet JC I shall have to give you a serve though for that ‘mostly harmless’.
lol. Like something out of the Hitchhiker’s Guide. 🙂

rosie
rosie
May 30, 2023 8:13 pm

I’d say, not an accurate account of what transpired.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 30, 2023 8:17 pm

Roger Cook is the new WA Premier.
Ruby-Garnet Sanderson withdrew from the contest.

Hmmm … curious. Ever get the impression we aren’t being told the whole story?

JMH
JMH
May 30, 2023 8:18 pm

Just to be clear – these comments are mine:

Well, well. That explains quite a lot. I wonder who would have stooped to that level to seek revenge? You can’t get any lower than that.

Format fail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 30, 2023 8:18 pm

Err … thanks Left Faction. We’ll take it from here.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie of Sydney says: May 30, 2023 at 8:07 pm
I miss Mater, Rex Anger and Infidel Tiger.

May I add (from a long list I could post) Daddy Dave

Cassie of Sydney
May 30, 2023 8:19 pm

There are also many who prefer to just lurk here.

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 8:22 pm

I imagine so, Cassie.

John Constantine, comrades. His daily updates on the doings of the orcs and Wormtongues were things of beauty.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:22 pm

He was anonymously contacted in his real life, at work, at his workplace.

That of course is dissembling nonsense and Driller needs to lie and twist things to make it looks bad. Nothing new there.

At one time Tim and I were getting along well. He said he was a tax attorney and worked in the tax area of the firm. I looked him up and asked him if it was the same person and he said he was. I thought at the time he was a nice guy ( how wrong I was). I needed a tax opinion and I considered throwing a couple of dollars his way. He said couldn’t help because it wasn’t his area and that was the end on the story. It was all nice.
I was actually prepared to move my legal dealings related to a tax matter from a law firm I’d used in the past.

We then came to blog blows about gerbil warming because I disagreed with a noted Climate scientist here and the idiot began to email me about the dispute and making threats. He went way over the top. I asked him not to email me anymore and then he disclosed on the blog here that I had contacted him over a business matter as though it was a bad thing. I actually wanted to push business his way at time and thank God it didn’t work out for obvious reasons.

His comments made in conversation in real life were then held up in public as an object of derision, along with his real name & his actual workplace.

Untrue. He posted comments that he had written a novel or two along with links directly to funny bio about him.

The only private information that WAS EVER disclosed was by him. I never did.

Driller, you need to post those 52 permits and licenses as we’re still waiting. You really are a primitive. Such a primitive.

Razey
Razey
May 30, 2023 8:23 pm

Where is choo choo?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 30, 2023 8:28 pm

New Premier to be selected after McGowan’s shock resignation.

“I’m sure they’ve got lots of great people to choose from,” he said, not biting when questioned on who he thought could earn the position.

(intro music)
Could it be Dodger Cook?
Could it be Amber-Jade Gravel-Sanderson?
Could it be a cardboard cutout of Gina Rinehart?
Which candidate has the X Factor, that special spark that will win over our judges and propel them to stardom? That’s coming up next on Sandgropers Got Talent.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 30, 2023 8:28 pm

Cassie of Sydney says: May 30, 2023 at 8:07 pm
I miss Mater, Rex Anger and Infidel Tiger.

I miss Popular Front of New England. He, and Numbers Bob, at ten paces were good for a laugh.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:29 pm

Detractors like the primitive sitting in the Strait want to make it sound as though I did a terrible thing emailing someone asking if he wanted to provide a service. As a matter of fact I’ve actually had dealings similar to that with another lawyer who sometimes used to post at the old Cat. I was contacted to see if someone else on the blog required legal advice as s/he believed we were friends. I would never disclose names.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 30, 2023 8:29 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 30, 2023 at 7:19 pm
Aborigines continue to be represented in many areas of achievement – in art, in sport, in dance, in cinema, in politics and in the Academy.

Why does no one acknowledge this????

Because it’s patronising, lame, and untrue.
They’re good at games, and that’s where it begins and ends.

Grandpa Cletus reverts to his old stand-by, low level racism.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:31 pm

Liz

I’d say the same thing about Mater. He’s a most decent fellow and have a lot of respect for him especially about his service (but not just that). We’ve had disagreements, some blistering, but no biggie as he’s a gentleman.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 30, 2023 8:32 pm

Choo Choo man is over at Unz Review, along with Graeme Bird and Infidel Tiger.
Unz hisself did give Bird a fairly humiliating beatdown a while back, though it wasn’t anything to do with Graeme’s [wildly overstated] antisemitic tendencies.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 30, 2023 8:33 pm

Christ but the glass jawed little wop pissant is tiresome. Loves flinging poo but can’t take it when it happens to him.

JMH
JMH
May 30, 2023 8:33 pm

Read up. All is revealed.

Muddy
Muddy
May 30, 2023 8:36 pm

but the blog wouldn’t be the same without

I imagine you all as poorly-drawn cartoon characters.
South Park-ish.
(But slightly more feral).

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 30, 2023 8:37 pm

Scrolling up is for losers.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:40 pm

Hallward, you’re sad imitations of Wodney are just sad. I realize it’s hard for you but try to be original. What’s glass jawed about explaining the truth against a pack of defamatory lies, Elon?

JMH says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:33 pm

Read up. All is revealed.

They were revealed the first time, you zero.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 8:40 pm

I looked him up

so innocuous and let me explain

with the best intentions of course
when it didn’t go to plan
I simply had to spent a week or more assassinating that guy’s character on the forum.

but wait … I didnt doxx him at all

really … Im a nice guy

you should get to know me.

Muddy
Muddy
May 30, 2023 8:40 pm

John Constantine, comrades. His daily updates on the doings of the orcs and Wormtongues were things of beauty.

Yes! The Constantinian Orcs.
Such a wordsmith.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 30, 2023 8:40 pm

I imagine you all as poorly-drawn cartoon characters.

As a loveable anthropomorphic sometimes morning childrens character, I find that mildly offensive.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 30, 2023 8:43 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

May 30, 2023 at 6:51 pm

“Robert Sewellsays:
May 30, 2023 at 6:34 pm”

Robert, I was responding “snap” to Sancho’s comment at 3.36 about a certain former Liberal treasurer of WA, by the name of Troy Buswell, who liked to sniff chairs where women had sat.

Sancho Panzersays:
May 30, 2023 at 3:36 pm
H B Bearsays:

May 30, 2023 at 3:27 pm

Who was “the Buzz”?

Troy Buswell. One time WA Treasurer and Emperor Barney’s heir apparent. Disappeared into WA corporates except for occasional appearances on the 6pm News as he pleads to variety of charges. Possibly not suited to public life.

And Forensic Chair Inspector.”

It had nothing to do with you or anything that you wrote.

Nurse Betty does this a lot.
Nurse Betty is confused.
I blame the iodine.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 30, 2023 8:45 pm

Back from the goff course, and watching a doco about Atlantis on the Hitler Channel.

They seem to think Atlantis is somewhere around Santorini in the Mediterranean.

Speaking as an engineer, I find this highly unlikely.

Razey
Razey
May 30, 2023 8:46 pm

– settings –
– find on page –
– search handle –

ahh shiiiieet, no + hand(s)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 30, 2023 8:46 pm

Nurse Betty is confused.

Nurse Bobbie. He loves that.

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 8:46 pm

I imagine you all as poorly-drawn cartoon characters.

I’ll be Jessica Rabbit thank you very much.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 30, 2023 8:48 pm

MatrixTransformsays:

May 30, 2023 at 7:52 pm

the real problem is that certain noises in the forum are very thin-skinned and they clearly take any critique or disagreement as a personal insult.

their go-to response is too often a stream of simplistic personal invective

which consequently provokes more piss-taking

Finally.
Some introspection.

JMH
JMH
May 30, 2023 8:48 pm

Nurse Betty does this a lot.
Nurse Betty is confused.
I blame the iodine.

Yippity yappity yap yap yap yap.

(Time for an upgrade in material, Chiko)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 30, 2023 8:51 pm

Rosie, what makes you think it will be a one-off payment in reparation? It’s been made abundantly clear that the payments are meant to be in perpetuity

The 1988 Draft Treaty called for “Compensation rates to equal not less than 7% of GDP for the first ten years, 5% of GDP for the following ten years and 2.5% of GDP in perpetuity” in addition to all benefits already paid to Aboriginal people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 30, 2023 8:51 pm

Razeysays:

May 30, 2023 at 8:23 pm

Where is choo choo?

Kanazawa.
Driving the mountain tourist train.
He says konichiwa (hi!).

Entropy
Entropy
May 30, 2023 8:54 pm

Muddy says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:36 pm
but the blog wouldn’t be the same without
I imagine you all as poorly-drawn cartoon characters.
South Park-ish.
(But slightly more feral

as long as I ain’t Kenny.

Muddy
Muddy
May 30, 2023 8:54 pm

As a loveable anthropomorphic sometimes morning childrens character, I find that mildly offensive.

Aggro?
Is that you?

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:54 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:40 pm

I looked him up

so innocuous and let me explain

with the best intentions of course

Yep, with the very best of intentions.

when it didn’t go to plan
I simply had to spent a week or more assassinating that guy’s character on the forum.

He attacked me and I responded in kind as I would always do. That’s unlike you though, who spent a couple of years joining a pile on and we subsequently find that you’re the second biggest blowhard on here referring to yourself as
1. A god oracle.
2. People shit themselves when you walk into a room
3. The fastest lip on a construction site.

In other words you spent two years attacking someone about the very things you need mental help for.

And you continue to stoush troll lots of people here.

And we then have to endure the woe is me tales.

Piss off, you clown.

but wait … I didnt doxx him at all

I didn’t, but you wouldn’t understand as you’re dishonest and dumb. Like really dumb.

really … Im a nice guy

Selectively. Obviously.

Muddy
Muddy
May 30, 2023 8:55 pm

The question is: Which one of you is Cartman?

Muddy
Muddy
May 30, 2023 8:58 pm

I’ll be Jessica Rabbit

Smokin’!

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 8:59 pm

Finally.
Some introspection.

lol.

eric hinton
eric hinton
May 30, 2023 9:00 pm

We’re never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy.

Was sure it was going to be Forpie

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 9:01 pm

I refuse to be poorly drawn.

Standards, please!

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:05 pm

Muddy says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:55 pm

The question is: Which one of you is Cartman?

You mean Dennis Gartman?Gartman wrote a daily trading newsletter that was widely followed. Since retired.

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 9:06 pm

I’m not bad…I’m just drawn that way.

😀

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:07 pm

Scrolling up is for losers.

No? Really? I do it all the time. 🙂

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 30, 2023 9:08 pm

Upthread it is asked why Pessuto hasn’t faced a spill motion. Might not be far orf. Hun on Sunday:

Shadow Treasurer Brad Rowswell has shut down talks that opposition leader John Pesutto could soon face a leadership spill.

Mr Rowswell, whose name has repeatedly been touted as a potential replacement as leader, ruled out challenging Mr Pesutto for the top job.

“John Pesutto will lead us to the 2026 Victorian election and I can’t say that any clearer,” he said.

The Herald Sun this weekend revealed talks of toppling Mr Pesutto have gained momentum in the week since he was booed and heckled at a party conference in Bendigo.

Dozens of members walked out on Pesutto before he addressed a crowd of hundreds at the State Council meeting in Bendigo, prompting the leader to call for party unity.

But despite repeated pleas, talks of a potential challenge to his leadership have escalated during the week.

Sources close to the leader’s office previously said Pesutto now believed it was now only a matter of time before he faced a challenge.

But they are confident he could see off any challenge and galvanise his support and authority within the party room.

However, others say a challenge is inevitable but how and when it plays out remains a matter of contention among senior Liberals.

Sources have told the Sunday Herald Sun potential challengers believe a significant number of MPs would get behind a new leader.

They said the party room was now firmly divided in three factions: a conservative anti-Pesutto bloc, a more moderate bloc backing the leader and a third that remained indifferent to Pesutto.

It would take unity between the conservative bloc and the grouping that remains indifferent to Pesutto to stage a successful coup.

And it would take an agreement between the groups about who took prominence in a potential shadow cabinet reshuffle.

It is understood the conservative bloc also wants significant change to the wider leadership group which currently includes David Southwick, Georgie Crozier and Matt Bach.

Shadow treasurer Brad Rowswell has been repeatedly named as a potential replacement for Pesutto.

However, party figures do not expect the loyal MP to mount a challenge.

Instead he would be more likely to run for the top job if a spill motion was successfully mounted by another MP.

Rowswell publicly distanced himself from any leadership ambitions this week.

However, multiple Liberal sources said there had been growing tensions between the shadow treasurer and Pesutto in recent weeks.

His absence from a key budget press conference this week and the fact he was not mentioned in a budget “week in review” email to members was noted by key Liberals.

Pesutto was hailed as the Liberal Party’s great hope in the wake of the party’s stunning state election thumping in November.

But he won a leadership ballot by just a single vote.

His crusade to expel MP Moira Deeming from the parliamentary team has raised concerns about his political judgment.

While his backers say it has galvanised his support within the divided party room, his detractors say he has alienated grassroots members.

Some allies of the leader are concerned that what should be his “Praetorian guard”, his political office, are too indifferent to the growing discontent within the party.

“He’s lost the party completely,” one source said.

“I think the general view is that the only way out of the mess we’re in is for John not to be there.

“The branch members think he’s shown a woeful lack of judgment.”

Support for a coup has been courted within and outside the parliamentary team for several weeks.

A leadership challenge would be the fourth since March 2021 when Brad Battin failed in a coup against Mr O’Brien.

Matthew Guy then successfully challenged for the job in September 2021.

Pesutto challenged Battin for the leadership in December.

JMH
JMH
May 30, 2023 9:10 pm

Bobo the Chimp is sweating. Yet again. Every time this ape tries to take on people he targets, he loses. And loses big time. We waste time on the cretin for our amusement. That will never stop.

Dot
Dot
May 30, 2023 9:10 pm

glass jawed little wop pissant

I joke about being 1/32nd Italian, but quite a few here are of more substantial Italian heritage, you might notice a lot of Catholic commenters; quite a few of them have Italian heritage.

calli
calli
May 30, 2023 9:12 pm

Gee, I’m annoying someone out there in Interweb land. I’ll try harder tomorrow, but a book beckons. *waves*

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:13 pm

Thanks, Cassie, for your generous account of me further back, which I would have missed if I didn’t scroll back. See you sometime soon in the restaurant at the end of the universe. Where you will receive your Catallaxy Top Blogger award and a special whistle for attracting attention – as they say when the spaceship’s about to go down.

Cassie of Sydney
May 30, 2023 9:15 pm

“I joke about being 1/32nd Italian, but quite a few here are of more substantial Italian heritage, you might notice a lot of Catholic commenters; quite a few of them have Italian heritage.”

I’d love to have Italian heritage. I love everything Italian.

I did read somewhere that there is some shared DNA between Italians and Ashkenazi Jews.

Dot
Dot
May 30, 2023 9:17 pm

Gartman wrote a daily trading newsletter that was widely followed.

Could he predict earthquakes?

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 30, 2023 9:18 pm

AFL might be in Clarkson’s crosshairs in terms of legal action.

The four First Nations families involved in the Hawthorn racism saga are destined for the Australian Human Rights Commission after the AFL’s independent investigation was wound up on Tuesday.

The families have agreed there will be no adverse finding against the AFL and current senior coaches Alastair Clarkson, Chris Fagan and former Hawthorn staff member Jason Burt.

The AFL has called a last-minute late-night press conference as its independent investigation into the Hawthorn racism scandal hits crisis point.

League boss Gillon McLachlan is set to front media at 7.45pm (AEST) tonight, with the press conference only called at 7.04pm.

The four families are almost certain to join the two other families in pursuing a hearing in the Human Rights Commission.

That will involve compulsory mediation between the families and Clarkson, Fagan and Burt, who have all denied any wrongdoing.

And if conciliation can’t be reached a hearing will be held in the Federal Court.

The league announced on Tuesday evening that “no adverse findings have been made in the independent investigation against any of the individuals against whom allegations have been made”.

It said that all six complainants that had partaken in the investigation “wish to resolve all differences with the AFL”.

“As a result of this agreement, the complainants do not wish to pursue the independent panel investigation, which they wholeheartedly supported, or make any claims against the AFL in any other process (including the AHRC) or Court in relation to their allegations,” the league said in a statement.

The league’s panel was terminated “with the consent of the complainants with no charges to be brought against any person subject to the AFL Rules as a result of the independent investigation.”

The league acknowledged that complainants feel “hurt, pain and anguish following their time at the Hawthorn FC”.

“The Parties acknowledge that the manner in which their allegations were leaked to the media was not in any party’s best interests,” it said.

“The Complainants acknowledge that the Independent Panel established by the AFL was a positive and constructive process for their allegations to be fully and fairly investigated in a culturally safe way and that they have only agreed to the termination of that process because of this agreement.”

It also made a number of commitments around ongoing training and greater diversity across the industry. (more cultural awareness. FMD)

The league also noted that the agreement does not preclude the AFL “from bringing a charge under AFL Rules against Hawthorn FC with respect to the commissioning and oversight of the Binmada Report”, which was commissioned in 2022.

“The AFL greatly values all players and officials in our game and commits to working with all the clubs and all its people in continually improving the environments and ensuring they are welcoming, supportive and understanding of everyone who comes to our game,” it said.

“There have been hundreds of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander players who have played our game and who have collectively played more than 25,000 games.

“The AFL knows that during the long history of our game there have been instances of racism and that players have been marginalised, hurt or discriminated against because of their race and for that we say sorry.”

It’s all over. Sack them all. And I would think Clarkson and Fagan and Burt would almost certainly have the players who said this shit in mind for legal action.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Dot says: May 30, 2023 at 9:10 pm

glass jawed little wop pissant

I joke about being 1/32nd Italian, but quite a few here are of more substantial Italian heritage, you might notice a lot of Catholic commenters; quite a few of them have Italian heritage.

Sticks ‘n’ stones, etc.
Quite a few of us can take it.
There’s bad genes in most tribes. If there’s any who can’t take it, possibly they’re of the same blood as those who gave rise to the reputation of Italians as inclined to surrender, designed tanks with multiple reverse gears, etc.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:18 pm

I do miss Daddy Dave, Sdog, and also Bloggie (who was always reading a book). We used to have some memorable Vogan Poetry nites … a long time ago, in a Catallaxy far far away … before worlds and time caught up with us.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:18 pm

Angry Karen

You’re one of the detestable weirdos to ever post here. And trust me, I’m not the only person to be saying that. You’re a zero who needs mental help. Everything about you is just wrong and sleazy.
Have you ever posted a comment that isn’t a Debbie Downer and nasty? Point to a single one.

Go!

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 9:19 pm

did I mention …

and they clearly take any critique or disagreement as a personal insult.

their go-to response is too often a stream of simplistic personal invective

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie of Sydney says: May 30, 2023 at 9:15 pm
I’d love to have Italian heritage. I love everything Italian.

Simply identify as Italian for a few days. As a sort of a ‘warm up’
See how you feel about it. – take it from there.

John H.
John H.
May 30, 2023 9:21 pm

Razeysays:
May 30, 2023 at 8:23 pm
Where is choo choo?

Possibly somewhere over Ukraine in DCS World. I wouldn’t mind being there but my video card won’t deliver the desired resolution and frame rates.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:25 pm

Driller

The only person we see here switching gears and going into reverse, is you, you primitive. You blowhard by trying to bullshit people here about what a important iconic motel owner you are. When you’re asked to back your assertions you run and hide like a kid behind their mother’s apron.
When asked to back up some of your absurd claims you retreat into bullshit mode. You’re a coward and will always be one.

Now, the 52 permits and licenses, you cowardly piece of dung.
Go!

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 9:25 pm

tough crowd … I thought ‘Parma Facie’ was pretty funny

and I literally have a step-brother that owns a purple Monaro

no shit

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:26 pm

There are a heap of comments on Peter Smith’s blog about Jesus whom I’ve never seen here before.

I think they are some of the lurkers.

oopz, lookit my grammar up there. I’ve never seen Jesus here at all, or anywhere else either.
Except in some most moving paintings and pietas.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:27 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:19 pm

did I mention …

and they clearly take any critique or disagreement as a personal insult.

their go-to response is too often a stream of simplistic personal invective

Trans, you only post stupid (unsupported) assertions and stoush trolling comments. We’re still waiting for the real you then?

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:28 pm

and I literally have a step-brother that owns a purple Monaro

no shit

Wow! Impressive.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:28 pm

not Peter Smith’s blog, his thread here, “All in one in Jesus Christ”.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 9:28 pm

I thought ‘Parma Facie’ was pretty funny

… almost as funny as watching JC trying to reverse a trailer

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 9:34 pm

Talking about interesting country motels, as I imagine we were with Salvatore, I came across one today, more of a country house hotel actually, I’m marking down for our next trip to Britain. It’s where Lord Beaverbrook used to live when he was in charge of things during the Battle of Britain. It has a particular redolence for me because of my dad.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 9:43 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:28 pm

I thought ‘Parma Facie’ was pretty funny

… almost as funny as watching JC trying to reverse a trailer

Yeah, we’ve heard before from the Driller , exhaustively explaining to us mere mortals that the only manly men are blue collar. He stopped that laughable crap when he was laughed off the blog for a time.

eric hinton
eric hinton
May 30, 2023 9:44 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
May 30, 2023 at 9:18 pm
[snip] If there’s any who can’t take it, possibly they’re of the same blood as those who gave rise to the reputation of Italians as inclined to surrender, designed tanks with multiple reverse gears, etc.

Back in the day I was anchored off Hinchinbrook and chipped a tooth. The next day I sail up to Innisfail to get it fixed. The dentist says to me, what’s an Aussie fella like you doing at the Itie dentist? And I say, well, I’m a new Australian, you know, drink espresso. And he says, do you know what happened to Mussolini after they strung him up? And I say, well, no. He says, Il Ducie arrives at the Pearly Gates and St Peter says, what have you got to say for yourself, Benito? You gave fascism a bad name by siding with Hitler, brought misery upon the Italian people and you lost your North African empire! Yes, replies Mussolini, but I’ve still got Ayr, Innisfail and Mareeba.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 30, 2023 9:46 pm

glass jawed little wop pissant

Geez.

Sounds like the sort of people who would rabbit on about ‘anglo strongholds’, ‘Last Holdouts’ and ‘Indians done gone stole muh petrol’.

Grampians Nazis, all of them, and who decide to get a bit mouthy with two dry sherries and a Midori and lemonade in them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 30, 2023 9:48 pm

… almost as funny as watching JC trying to reverse a trailer

Hi egg_.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 30, 2023 9:58 pm

Entertainment
Bruce Lehrmann to break silence in Channel 7 interview
News Corp AustraliaNCA NewsWire
Tue, 30 May 2023 7:47PM

Bruce Lehrmann will break his silence on the accusations levelled against him in an interview with Channel 7.

Mr Lehrmann will appear on the 7 News Spotlight program on Sunday.

The former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins accused Mr Lehrmann of raping her inside Parliament House in 2019.

He has denied the accusation and pleaded not guilty at a trial that was aborted due to juror misconduct. The charge was then dropped.

“Despite the headlines, Bruce Lehrmann has never told his side of the story, not one single word,” a promo for the program said.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:05 pm

He stopped that laughable crap when he was laughed off the blog for a time.

oh … calm the fcuck down Toro

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:06 pm

Hi egg_

your cartel’s defining characteristic is paranoia

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:07 pm

this joint’s a clown-show

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:09 pm

A three’er. Now that’s triggering or what!

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:13 pm

Great news. Standup guy.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, promised nuclear weapons to any nation that joined Russia and Belarus.

The comment came just days after the Belarusian leader confirmed the transfer of Russian nuclear weapons to his country. Putin has periodically hinted at a nuclear escalation since the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, dramatically increasing tensions with the U.S. and the West.

“It’s very simple. You have to join the union between Belarus and Russia, and that’s it: There will be nuclear weapons for everyone,” Lukashenko said in a comment aired Sunday night on Russian state TV.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:15 pm
Dot
Dot
May 30, 2023 10:19 pm

Serious question.

Meat has gone up in price, but visiting my sister a few weeks back in the Molonglo Swamp and the high end butcher was selling lamb cutlets for $78/kg.

I had to check twice.

Yep.

$78/kg.

Salmon at Victor Churchill is about $140 as Gravlax, so there’s that.

What’s the most you have seen for meat lately?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 10:19 pm

Gosh, has everyone taken their bat and ball and gone home?

Place seems deserted, very quiet.

Hairy is reading something I have written, for possible real publication, not here, so I’m very nervous.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

eric hinton says: May 30, 2023 at 9:44 pm
Yes, replies Mussolini, but I’ve still got Ayr, Innisfail and Mareeba.

I’ve heard that one before. From the context we can all work out the meaning of the joke.
It does fall rather flat though. S’pose you’d have to come from one of those places to really get the joke.

Having been given a frosty glare a few times by a chick or two from Innisfail, I feel sorta better being reminded there’s a joke poking fun at them, hehe.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 10:22 pm

Hairy buys our meat and fish. I ask him how much he pays and he says he doesn’t know. He just gets what he wants.

I actually believe him. But when I see some local prices as I walk by the butcher I am astounded.

Arky
May 30, 2023 10:24 pm

What’s the most you have seen for meat lately?

..
You’ll be right mate.
Just 3D print it.

John H.
John H.
May 30, 2023 10:24 pm

If you’d like a recent account(2020) of the history and development of AI, The Road to Conscious Machins: The Story of AI by Michael Woolridge might interest you. There are many different approaches to AI. One of the surprising things about some modern AI is that some approaches defy our analysis as to how the AI arrived at its conclusions. That is akin to something an old friend told me about an AI device he created. The software was quite small but the “backend” it created was huge and they had no idea what was going on there. It failed. AI has had its ups and downs but now it is up, up, and away. Very readable text, enjoying it.

I’m also reading The Biology of Emotions by Lisa Feldman Barrett. She challenges the traditional view and puts forward a “constructionist” approach. Emotions are not universal or innate but constructed individually and culturally. An interesting idea she puts forward is “emotional granularity”. That is about the vocabulary we use to express our emotions. The more nuanced the vocabulary the better we are at managing and expressing our emotions. She does a good job introducing the general reader to the topic but a basic knowledge of the subject will make the reading much easier. I don’t know how her argument will pan out over the long term.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:24 pm

What’s the most you have seen for meat lately?

been making paella
prawn and mussel and chorizo is better value

also, Aldi 21 day aged filet is around the $50 mark … cant beat it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 10:26 pm

I don’t like all of this nuclear ramping up.
I was happier in the days when we thought they were all letting the ICBM’s rust.
We saw one outside our hotel in Moscow just before the National Day parade, a sort of relic.
They are huge, towering over the hotel’s roadside entrance.
The Ritz-Carlton. The one we now know Trump didn’t play golden showers in.
I always thought that was just too gross to be true.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:27 pm

hehe.

Oh God, He’s hehe’ing at himself now.
Still waiting on the 52 licenses and permits.

Driller, I’m going to abbreviate it to 52LP as we know this is going to be another case of trying to pull hens teeth. “hehe”, you blowhard dickhead.

Cassie of Sydney
May 30, 2023 10:28 pm

I try and buy kosher meat, it’s always been expensive.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 30, 2023 10:30 pm

Just watched almost all of episode 1 of Ten Pound Pomss before turning it off in disgust.

The scriptwriter obviously located a book – Cliched Stereotypes of Australia in the 1950s – and found a useful one every page.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:34 pm

John H

I heard a bit of a podcast this morning talking about some magnetic gizmo set up presumably on a person’s skull, that’s being used to change neural activity in certain parts of the brain that’s causing depression. It’s apparently working and it not a periodic treatment, but like a one time thing.

If it’s succeeding could mean they could use it for other things too. It sounds like repairing a computer hard-drive.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:40 pm

I heard a bit of a podcast this morning talking about some magnetic gizmo set up presumably on a person’s skull, that’s being used to change neural activity

I can’t see that happening

Crossie
Crossie
May 30, 2023 10:41 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:51 pm
Razeysays:

May 30, 2023 at 8:23 pm

Where is choo choo?
Kanazawa.
Driving the mountain tourist train.
He says konichiwa (hi!).

I have been to Kanazawa, it has a gorgeous park where you can just sit and feel the peace. It has a pond, a crane in it and beautiful flowering trees. It was late April.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 10:45 pm

Emotions are not universal or innate but constructed individually and culturally. An interesting idea she puts forward is “emotional granularity”

Every cat I’ve ever owned has had a constructed relationship with me, arising out of the interaction of my habits with theirs. Cats use a surprising range of emotional appeals and seek particular gratifications. That said, cats work on a foundation of instinct with a basic repertoire specific to felines. Dogs too. So these ideas can apply beyond humans, they constitute the emotions of animals, which don’t exist in a vacuum. Animals do their best with ‘vocabulary’ too, but I doubt they ‘process’ it at all.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:47 pm

Amusing piece in Reason Magazine about Twitter, Musk, DeStanis, Twitter again and how it’s turning rightward.

Twitter is in the midst of a transformation: It is becoming a right-leaning news platform. This will have profound consequences for the debate about Section 230, the federal statute that shields websites from some liability created by users, which effectively allows the internet to function as a lightly restricted space.

Elon Musk purchased Twitter last year with the stated goal of making the site more hospitable to all kinds of political expression. But Musk is himself increasingly associated with the right; on Wednesday, Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his bid for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination during a Twitter Spaces live event alongside Musk, an avowed supporter of DeSantis.

Well that’s not funny but what is the discourse about the direction of section 230 and where things are heading. Section 230 allows big tech to avoid the $US800 million dollar lawsuits that Fox incurred.

Anyways, it was only a short time ago when the American Right wanted to do away with 230 and the Demons supported it. Now that Twitter has a potential for a Right lean, or even not listing to the left, the GOP is beginning to be supportive of 230 while the Demons are agitating against it. A year ago it was the opposite.

https://reason.com/2023/05/25/elon-musk-twitter-desantis-tucker-carlson-section-230/

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:48 pm

I can’t see that happening

For your sake, I hope it’s true as you damn well need it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Top Ender says: May 30, 2023 at 10:30 pm
Just watched almost all of episode 1 of Ten Pound Pomss before turning it off in disgust.

Respect. You did better than me.
I got about 1/3 of the way through the 1st episode – & probably a lot of that was because I went into the kitchen & started doing the washing up.

This is the moment when you realise the whole thing is going to be complete bullshit: At Circular Quay an adult Chinese couple are manhandled, wailing & resisting, across the wharf, reason: “Chinese not allowed into Australia, coz White Australia Policy

By the time we get to the migrant camp (population 25) it isn’t such a shock that it turns out to be run by Barry McKenzie. (of Bazza’s London Adventures)

Utterly unwatchable crap. It is suffering badly from poor scriptwriting.
Also a noticeable absence of extras, i.e. crowd scenes didn’t have a crowd, & long shots of the camp showed no people whatsoever.

Crossie
Crossie
May 30, 2023 10:51 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:15 pm
“I joke about being 1/32nd Italian, but quite a few here are of more substantial Italian heritage, you might notice a lot of Catholic commenters; quite a few of them have Italian heritage.”
I’d love to have Italian heritage. I love everything Italian.
I did read somewhere that there is some shared DNA between Italians and Ashkenazi Jews.

I too love Italian things, food, fashions and music. When I was a teenager we lived in Matraville and our neighbours often played a particular song that I finally tracked down on YouTube. I remember it sounding much better than this, maybe 60s hifis were better than iPads.

Mamma mia dammi cento lire

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 10:51 pm

For your sake, I hope it’s true as you damn well need it

omg, it’s learning at an exponential rate

… which, isn’t a problem yet

Crossie
Crossie
May 30, 2023 10:53 pm

I have been to Kanazawa, it has a gorgeous park where you can just sit and feel the peace. It has a pond, a crane in it and beautiful flowering trees. It was late April.

A crane as in a bird, not a construction crane. It was a very tame bird wading through the water right past me.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 10:55 pm

Here Trans, you’re in luck, Mayo Clinic says it works.

Transcranial magnetic stimulation

Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) is a procedure that uses magnetic fields to stimulate nerve cells in the brain to improve symptoms of major depression. It’s called a “noninvasive” procedure because it’s done without using surgery or cutting the skin. Approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), TMS usually is used only when other depression treatments haven’t been effective.

The FDA also approved TMS for obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), migraines and to help people stop smoking when standard treatments haven’t worked well. Research continues into other potential uses for TMS, including epilepsy.

When used for depression, OCD and to stop smoking, this treatment involves delivering repeated magnetic pulses, so it’s called repetitive TMS or rTMS.

I heard today that it works bigtime and really treating folks.

I tell you what, I need to stop fuming (smoking) and you certainly need some depression adjustment. We’ll go together, but I need to talk to the docs doing the procedure about you as I suspect you reuire some really heavy duty magnetic shocks.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 30, 2023 10:55 pm

Hairy says put some of that later emotional zing up front just to draw the reader in because it’s fairly dry stuff otherwise. It’s meant to be dry, it has to cover all bases to fend off likely attacks, I say defensively, but I see what he means.

I just want to get it off the back burner and move on to something else.

John H.
John H.
May 30, 2023 10:56 pm

JCsays:
May 30, 2023 at 10:34 pm
John H

I heard a bit of a podcast this morning talking about some magnetic gizmo set up presumably on a person’s skull, that’s being used to change neural activity in certain parts of the brain that’s causing depression. It’s apparently working and it not a periodic treatment, but like a one time thing.

If it’s succeeding could mean they could use it for other things too. It sounds like repairing a computer hard-drive.

I read that JC, it is about inducing a communication switch between two parts of the brain. In depression the communication is reversed and the TMS reverts it to a non-depressive state. An interesting aspect, which Barrett addresses, is the emotion-body connection. I’d like to see that followed up with ECT studies because despite it having a bad rap ECT alleviates depression in as little as 24 hours.

https://www.sciencealert.com/we-may-finally-know-why-magnetic-stimulation-on-the-brain-can-ease-depression

Barry
Barry
May 30, 2023 10:56 pm

There can never be reconciliation in Australia, because that would require the Abos relinquishing Native Title rights, to live as one with the rest of the population with equal property rights.

While Native Title exists, there can be no reconciliation.

Should the Voice referendum succeed, doubly so.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 30, 2023 11:00 pm

I can supply lamb at the low low price of $5/kilo. Comes with free small sheep, some disassembly required.
PM for details

Indolent
Indolent
May 30, 2023 11:01 pm
JC
JC
May 30, 2023 11:03 pm

Thanks John, for a more accurate explanation.

Eggsactly.

it is about inducing a communication switch between two parts of the brain.

Crossie
Crossie
May 30, 2023 11:06 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:25 pm
tough crowd … I thought ‘Parma Facie’ was pretty funny

and I literally have a step-brother that owns a purple Monaro

A guy in our street had an orange Monaro but I preferred the blue Capri a few streets away I used to see on my way to the school bus in the mornings. The owner obviously didn’t drive it to work.

I was a connoisseur of cars a that age and just couldn’t get over it when my father bought a grey Morris Minor and when it died he bought a brown Leyland P76 which at least was large and comfortable. That was my dad, from one extreme to the other.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 11:06 pm

More on that Twitter story

Tucker Carlson appears to be taking his show on twitter. Twitter cant be sued.

JC
JC
May 30, 2023 11:13 pm

Carlson could make a bundle of money through Twitter. There’s protection from lawsuits for twitter, which allows Carlson far more latitude. He could make a bundle of money.

If he charges people 5 bucks a month for an interesting show and gets say 5 million viewers, which isn’t over the top, that’s US$300 million a year.

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 11:17 pm

A guy in our street had an orange Monaro but I preferred the blue Capri

the Old man used to renovate cars in the shed

the most memorable were

the Cortina with the 250 engine done in 2-tone copper-bronze. Gawd that used to go hard.
and
the 56 Ford Customline with red leather interior and like 12 coats of cream duco

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 30, 2023 11:18 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

how to get yourself flogged in the suburbs

“If someone is caught, there’s a debate about whether what we are doing is even illegal. In the UK, police forces are divided about whether it‘s a crime to let the air out of a tyre or not. It may not even meet the threshold for criminal damage.”

They’re acutely conscious that is meets the threshold for knocking their block off – hence they do it at night & are very careful about it.

A couple of them in for reconstructive maxillo-facial surgery should slow down their antics.
Neither will it end their music career, they can still play the triangle after their ten broken fingers are reset to somewhere near what they used to be.

Dot
Dot
May 30, 2023 11:35 pm

Righto.

So people don’t need SUVs for practical reasons, or couldn’t afford to buy two cars but like going in the National Parks on weekends?

“Not a tradie vehicle. Probs an upper manager of some building group who has never touched a tool other than his own,” one Aussie wrote online.

Wrong. They’re the smartest tradesmen and technicians.

“I’ll be honest, 99 per cent of tradies I work with f***ing hate these things.

Sure, lil’ buddy.

That’s not an Australian standard lane width pictured in the photo, the standard is nominal is 3.5m, Dodge Ram is 2.495m wide. If exceeding the nominal lane width a vehicle would need warning flags and over dimensional load warning signs as all over dimensional vehicles require.

Correct. Which means it also fits within the allowable vehicle dimension limits.

Crossie
Crossie
May 30, 2023 11:37 pm

the most memorable were

the Cortina with the 250 engine done in 2-tone copper-bronze. Gawd that used to go hard.

Funny you should mention Cortina. My husband’s first car was a two-door Cortina, don’t ask me the model. He finally traded it in when our second daughter arrived and we needed a bigger, four-door car.

Dot
Dot
May 30, 2023 11:38 pm

Steak, pepper sauce and beer – $74!

(18 May 2023 – $56 for a 300 g Scotch Fillet)

https://twitter.com/matt_barrie/status/1659147059293978625

MatrixTransform
May 30, 2023 11:43 pm

$74!

learn to cook

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rosie may benefit from reading some of the discussion that occurred subsequent to the most recent occasion when she posted about all the Commissions & Enquiries that allegedly slammed the northern pastoral industry re pay/conditions/welfare of stationhands.

Just saying.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 12:01 am

Rosie has read plenty.
If anyone wants to continue to pretend that continuing a practice where Aboriginal people were kept in a state of semi serfdom without access to education or opportunities, have at it.
And if you want to pretend you experienced events that occurred between sixty and a hundred years ago as a mature adult, have at it.
Personally I don’t believe you.

Gabor
Gabor
May 31, 2023 12:03 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
May 30, 2023 at 8:51 pm

Rosie, what makes you think it will be a one-off payment in reparation? It’s been made abundantly clear that the payments are meant to be in perpetuity

The 1988 Draft Treaty called for “Compensation rates to equal not less than 7% of GDP for the first ten years, 5% of GDP for the following ten years and 2.5% of GDP in perpetuity” in addition to all benefits already paid to Aboriginal people.

Shyte, better start looking for likely ancestors or at least a good tanning salon.
With that sort of income, who needs to work?

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 12:03 am

And those commissions and enquiries didn’t just allegedly slam the practices of many pastoralists; from their poor husbandry of the land, to their poor treatment of aboriginal people to their theft of government allowances , they, in fact, did so.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 12:05 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says: “Every cat I’ve ever owned…”

One does not own a cat. It merely condescends to stay with you. You might provide a home for it though.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 12:07 am

Just saying

She did dickhead. You made the assertions she didn’t understand because only a blowhard like you gets it as it’s a lived experience. If you have something substantial to say then do so, or just piss off, you blistering coward. Motel employee posing as a pub owner. Lies to bignote himself that he had enough grey matter to deal with 52LPs. When asked to substantiate the claim he calls liar liar pants on fire. A third rate primitive.

The worst of it is that he thinks his dishonesty can be blown away with bullshit ignoring the fact that people here aren’t as dumb like he is. A dumb, drunken snake.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 12:09 am

Personally I don’t believe you.

No one does.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 31, 2023 12:16 am

Liberty Quote?

Culture Critic @Culture_Crit · May 27
If you have to explain why it’s beautiful, it isn’t.
Image
@Culture_Crit
And if you can’t tell whether or not a climate activist has thrown paint on it, it isn’t art.
2:56 AM · May 27, 2023

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 12:18 am

Gabor

I hate to break it to you but the reparations are actually being paid at around 2.5%. I recall around 2013 or so we were handing out around 30 billion for Aboriginal care. It’s probably around $38 billion now.
38 billion/ 1.550 trillion is 2.45%.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 12:26 am

ADF chief Angus Campbell admits ‘perceived conflict’ on Afghanistan medals

Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell has admitted to a “perception of a conflict of interest” in his failure to stand aside from a review of honours and awards for the ADF’s Afghanistan commanders amid calls for him to hand back one of his own medals.

But General Campbell said he judged he was capable of leading the review into potential “administrative action” to dismiss special forces officers who failed to prevent war crimes on their watch.

Under questioning in a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday, the CDF said: “I undertook this. I am the authority to undertake that review.” He said Defence Minister Richard Marles and ultimately the Governor-General had the ability to override his decisions if they were “insufficient or not sufficiently broad”.

General Campbell commanded Australia’s force in the Middle East, known as “Joint Task Force 633”, from January 2011 to January 2012, a posting for which he earned the coveted Distinguished Service Cross.

Greens senator David Shoebridge challenged the CDF over what he called the “very obvious conflict of interest”, accusing him of “marking your own homework”.

General Campbell said he could see why some might have concerns.

“I can see the perception of the conflict of interest,” he said.

“But having read the complete Brereton report, I felt that this could be done by me. And it could then be considered comprehensively by the Deputy Prime Minister.

“Now, there are many other circumstances, having read that report, that I would not think that. But in this particular circumstance, that was the conclusion I drew.”

General Campbell said he did not seek to recuse himself, and he took no legal or probity advice on the matter. Asked why he didn’t ask a senior colleague to oversee the matter, he said: “I think that is a very reasonable idea to propose, senator, but it suffers from the reality that they are all under my command.”

The Brereton war crimes report found “credible information” that Australian soldiers killed 39 Afghan civilians and prisoners during the war. It said there was no evidence that any Task Force 633 commander had any knowledge of the war crimes or was recklessly indifferent.

But, after General Campbell initiated dismissal proceedings against a number of former Afghanistan officers for alleged command failings, he has faced scrutiny over his own DSC.

One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts asked him whether it was “demoralising” to receive a command medal when he was posted in the United Arab Emirates, and whether he would hand it back.

General Campbell said if Senator Roberts was unhappy with the awards process, he could challenge it. “If you regard this (as) not an appropriately awarded decoration, then use the process that exists to see it reconsidered,” he said.

Senator Shoebridge said unless General Campbell’s DSC was withdrawn, there would be a “question mark” over it, and a “conflict of interest over the whole process”.

The exchanges came ahead of a decision later this week on a defamation case brought by Australia’s most decorated soldier, Ben Roberts-Smith, against Nine newspapers, over reports accusing him of war crimes.

SAS Association national president Martin Hamilton-Smith said planned administrative action should be shelved until criminal charges were dealt with.

Oz

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

General Campbell said he judged he was capable of leading the review into potential “administrative action” to dismiss special forces officers who failed to prevent war crimes on their watch.

Oh my god.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rosie has read plenty.

Not enough to address any of the perspective provided after the previous foray into this territory.
There will be a reason for that.

And if you want to pretend you experienced events that occurred between sixty and a hundred years ago as a mature adult, have at it.

It is always a bad idea to judge others by your own standard of achievement. Just saying.

Personally I don’t believe you.

You posted the “daddy stockwhipped blackfellers” line & then dug in on it – this does not assist the casual reader to believe you’re objective, have an open or enquiring mind, or even a grasp of the subject.

Something for you to reflect upon.

I’m not trying to slam you, this is open discussion & exchange of information/opinion/ideas. I’m pointing out there was quite a bit of discussion after the last time, & it may benefit you to ponder what was discussed.

Just saying.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 1:13 am

You posted the “daddy stockwhipped blackfellers” line & then dug in on it – this does not assist the casual reader to believe you’re objective, have an open or enquiring mind, or even a grasp of the subject

Hahahahahahahahahah

52LP you primitive. Now!

Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:08 am

More Michael Ramirez TDS.

Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 4:13 am
will
will
May 31, 2023 5:56 am
rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 31, 2023 6:31 am

I have been to Kanazawa, it has a gorgeous park where you can just sit and feel the peace. It has a pond, a crane in it and beautiful flowering trees. It was late April.

A crane as in a bird, not a construction crane. It was a very tame bird wading through the water right past me.

Kanazawa is my favourite city in Japan. The park you mention is Kenrokuen and is officially rated as one of the ‘three most beautiful gardens in Japan’. Kanazawa escaped bombing in the war so it still has large historical districts that are nice for walking around. The city runs a hop-on/hop-off bus that does a circuit from the railway station, which is a great way to see all the sights. The gigantic wooden ‘drum’ gate at the entrance to the railway station is pretty cool too.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 31, 2023 6:34 am

Victoria is one stinking fetid swamp of corruption if this comes to pass. Whistleblowers being labled with “malfeasance” by judge presiding on their case. Thread from Voice for Vic:

https://twitter.com/Voice4Victoria/status/1663508479389347841

Indolent
Indolent
May 31, 2023 6:59 am
Min
Min
May 31, 2023 7:09 am

TMS has been around for a while I saw it demonstrated in relationship to depression and Dementia in early days . The best way i can s describe it like Tens but stimulators put into a cap for the head able to be used at home was one of the benefits .

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 7:19 am

I too have been to Kenroku-en garden. Spent a reasonable time gazing at a gardener trimming a tree to shape – these guys are brutal! And another guy sweeping leaves from moss with a soft straw broom. Their maintenance plan is exacting and extensive.

Glad you mentioned the gate at the station, Rugbyskier. There is also a fun modern fountain there – from memory it’s a clock as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 31, 2023 7:23 am

Just reviewed last nite’s stoush contributors before I get ready for a dance class this morning. A busy day follows and I wish I’d caught more sleep. You’d think I’d learn, wouldn’t you, not to post re Hairy’s nonchalance about the price of meat, or a nice country house stay that has meaning for me, because me in that mode does for some here set all of your toes a-curlin’ with inverted snobbery. And me an older lady simply reaping life’s rewards.

Also, did you know that both Dutton and Albo are avid watchers of Succession?

Thought not.

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 7:36 am

Something else I noticed about Japanese “stroll” type gardens, large and small.

They can be full of people yet you can find nooks and crannies where you feel perfectly alone, if only for a minute or so. I had no difficulty at all taking photos without people in them, I just had to wait a few seconds for the shot.

Another lovely garden I visited was in Kyoto – in the markets, take a left turn at an illegible sign (fortunately I had a screen shot of it to compare), down a corridor, out a door…and there it was. A perfect postage stamp of Japanese tranquility in front of a little bamboo faced shed. It was the needle shop and inside were sold exquisite hand forged needles, pins and other sewing necessities.

The garden was minute, but it had water, a maple, a tiny lantern and koi swimming lazily about. Moss and ferns and tiny clipped azaleas and box. It’s now the opening screen on my laptop.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 7:36 am

Pleased to read about people’s Japanese experiences, we are going there in September, God willing, and gardens are a particular interest of one of my travelling companions.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 7:45 am

Also finished watching a British TV series called Suspects on Acorn.
Maybe these shows aired on fta in Australia but it’s been so long since I’ve watched it I’ve missed them all.
It’s an unscripted police procedural set in East London, filmed in a sort of reality TV way, apparently the main cast got several weeks of intense police jargon training prior.
I did think it seemed to be a bit ad lib but it was quite natural and as believable as any other police show.
Jogged along reasonably well til season five when it went a little oh really but they tidied it up at the end and it looked like another more realistic season was coming up but channel five axed it, and that was that.

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 7:45 am

Rosie, make sure the chip in your camera is huge, or you can upload reams of photos. I love Japan, and the autumn colour will be breathtaking when you travel.

The fun thing is the familiar but with a Japanese twist. For example you can go into a supermarket and find shopping trolleys – but they are tiny, like toys. Sixth floor in the city for the food court – go to the basement and you’ll be disappointed. Another discovery – mochi. Mmmmmm. And hole in the wall and up a steep flight of steps restaurants. And that’s just the food. Shopping is fun and everything is tidy and beautifully presented – expert merchandisers.

You’ll have a ball.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 7:52 am

JCsays:

May 31, 2023 at 12:07 am

Just saying

She did dickhead. You made the assertions she didn’t understand because only a blowhard like you gets it as it’s a lived experience. If you have something substantial to say then do so, or just piss off, you blistering coward. Motel employee posing as a pub owner. Lies to bignote himself that he had enough grey matter to deal with 52LPs. When asked to substantiate the claim he calls liar liar pants on fire.

Leave me alone.
I am still trying to work out the GST on my gambling turnover and I am wrestling with the Jobkeeper forms.
🙁

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:00 am

Rugbyskier at 6:31.
Thanks for that.
We are visiting there later this year.
I hope to catch up with Razey-san.

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 8:04 am

Rosie – envy your trip to Japan. Have not been there but would love to emulate a trip by a friend who walked some of the pilgrim walks in the forests. They stayed in wonderful ryoku.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 8:05 am

These PWC hearings are fascinating.
Not because PWC used what they learned to advise clients.
But because the ATO served PWC up to the AFP in 2018 & the AFP said there was insufficient evidence to proceed.
If only the ATO had some political nobody to threaten the AFP on their behalf to get the ball rolling like a certain alleged r*pe victim did.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:06 am

I thoughr ryoku was raw fish.
I better work harder on my Japanese.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 8:07 am

I thoughr ryoku was raw fish.

No, that’s hentai.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 8:10 am

It’s like the Star & AUSTRAC.
AUSTRAC did one of their regular audits of Star.
Tick tick tick, nothing to worry about.
Then a bit of scrutiny and Star is on the rack.

Taxpayers are not getting much bang for their buck from these regulators.
Better of getting rid of them and having a corps of independent investigative journalists.
They seem to get the ball rolling when there is corporate wrongdoing.

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 8:10 am

If you’re into sewing here is a link to the Kyoto needle shop.

The market itself is full of good things. I bought some lovely handmade toys for the grandchildren, and there are a couple of knife shops (take muchos money for these) which do hand-forged knives of great quality and sharpness. Also the usual market offerings, but unlike any “market” I’ve ever been in.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:11 am

OK.
I thought hentai was a small Honda motorbike.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:15 am

Thanks Calli, I’ve passed it on to the itinerary keeper.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 8:16 am

Also, did you know that both Dutton and Albo are avid watchers of Succession?

Thought not.

What I’d rather know is what was the last non-fiction book they read?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 31, 2023 8:17 am

Big adverts in The Hun touting the new sparkly Dan made SEC.
This entity won’t generate, transmit or retail electricity – what is it and why did Dan bring it back?
You can be certain that this shell is being repurposed for more than political advertising. There are mega bucks to be made in renewables and no doubt Dan’s desperate and greedy fingers are grasping at the opportunity.
They’ve convinced the urban sheep that higher prices are good for the planet and now it’s time to cash in. Watch this space.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:20 am
rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:22 am

I suspect urban sheep already closely shorn by higher interest rates might soon start bleating louder when they start getting their winter electricity and gas bills.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:24 am
Damon
Damon
May 31, 2023 8:24 am

Frankly, I’m getting tired of the obsession with aboriginals. They have been acknowledged as artists (our galleries are full of aboriginal art), as politicians and legislators, and as business people. Literally billions of dollars have been lavished on them since Federation. Now it’s a cult. We need to be ‘welcomed to country’ everywhere we turn. At least Lidia Thorpe is honest-they want to take over the entire country. That’s certainly unification, though not exactly in the sense that Albo thinks.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 8:24 am

They’ve convinced the urban sheep that higher prices are good for the planet…

A winter of discontent on the way, I suspect.

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:26 am

Not to be outdone, the same in Victoria.
Dan’s already making it difficult to get fuel so I won’t be rushing out to get a wood heater installed.

Calls for wood-fired heaters to be phased out over health concerns

Crossie
Crossie
May 31, 2023 8:28 am

The garden was minute, but it had water, a maple, a tiny lantern and koi swimming lazily about. Moss and ferns and tiny clipped azaleas and box. It’s now the opening screen on my laptop.

Calli, I have printed the best photos from the Japanese holiday on A3 paper and then laminated them. These now grace my table as placemats.

It was possible to buy these placemats from souvenir shops but they are now few and far between and frankly, mine look better than the commercially produced ones.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 8:30 am

Dan’s already making it difficult to get fuel so I won’t be rushing out to get a wood heater installed.

Iirc, this came up last winter in VIC but the government backed away from it.

P
P
May 31, 2023 8:30 am

Feast of The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary – May31

Luke 1:39-56

The Magnificat, performed by the Netherlands Bach Society

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:32 am

rosiesays:

May 31, 2023 at 8:26 am

Not to be outdone, the same in Victoria.
Dan’s already making it difficult to get fuel so I won’t be rushing out to get a wood heater installed.

Calls for wood-fired heaters to be phased out over health concerns

3AW run that with monotonous regularity and, surprise, surprise, they always have half-a-dozen calls lined up to whinge that “I can’t breave”.

Crossie
Crossie
May 31, 2023 8:34 am

We were so lucky on the Japanese holiday weatherwise particularly the coach trip to Mt Fuji. In April it had a good snow cover and looked spectacular from every angle. Part of the tour was a boat ride on the lake, more great pictures, and then top of the hill opposite Mt Fuji. There were flowering cherry trees on the hill to use as perfect frames for photos of the peak.

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 8:35 am

For BoN & all the bird lovers:

Just outside our main bedroom at the farm we have 4 olive trees which we can see in the morning through the french doors. Every morning we have a procession of birds that breakfast in the morning on & under these trees. King Parrots & Eastern Rosellas feast on the ripening olives, & magpies, butcher birds & crows rummage under the trees picking up who knows what – grubs or bits of olives – under the trees. It is a virtual cornucopia. Amazing & very special to watch at such close proximity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:38 am

I have thought for some time that there are a couple of producers at 3AW who are rabid activists.
One an environmental warrior who is targeting wood fires and 4WD vehicles, and another who is an Animals Australia nut.
Same old topics re-heated with monotonous regularity, usually on Ding-Dong’s show in the early afternoon.

duncanm
duncanm
May 31, 2023 8:38 am

Rockdoctor – interesting twist on the iCook scandal, eh.

.. and led to this gem

David Limbrick MP ?
@_davidlimbrick
The Greens : “support our crazy rental freeze or we will refuse to raise taxes!!1!”

Libertarians : “Your terms are acceptable.”

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 8:42 am

BTW re Dan & the outlawing of wood burners:

This morning Ch 9 had heartbreaking story of the government closure of the Gippsland timber industry. Generations of industry workers & their families spoke about the devastation of facing the abolition of the way of life of their families.

Coal fired energy, timber plantations…… where do these people find alternate means of employment? Compete with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants being bought in? In what industries? If these workers depart from the country towns, how do the latter survive?

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 8:45 am

If these workers depart from the country towns, how do the latter survive?

For the architects of the policy, this is a feature.
Not a bug.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 31, 2023 8:46 am

Only in The Grauniad.
If you’re not seduced by Eddie Izzard, does that make you homophobic or transphobic?
I’ve lost track.

Crossie
Crossie
May 31, 2023 8:47 am

Another cherished photo is from an American holiday that took in the Devils Tower in Wyoming. Nearby is the Devils Tower Trading Post and it has dining tables in the garden. On the fence are two giant cowboy boots, about five feet tall, perfectly framing the Devils Tower in the background. America is full of these quirky scenes.

This link shows one of the boots.

Devils Tower Cowboy Boot

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 8:47 am

Re ryoku – sorry mistype – should be ryokan!

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 8:52 am

I remember being in Hobart one still cold winter night in a thick smoke pall, I could barely breathe, apparently Launceston was worse.
I didn’t ring 3AW though.
My next door neighbours here were making appallingly smoky fires a few years ago but seem to have stopped, if you don’t use decent wood and clean your chimney it is the pits.
My main chimney was blocked when I bought the house iirc a possum had got in, I’ve been tempted to but a box in but no, the other chimney and fireplace, which really must have been the woodstove in the original kitchen were removed when we extended.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 8:52 am

If these workers depart from the country towns, how do the latter survive?

There is a chap on youtube who documents the fate of small American towns where the local industry has either been offshored or is otherwise defunct. Most businesses closed, abandoned houses, usually one or two residential neighbourhoods holding out against the odds, probably because they can’t find buyers for their homes.

I stopped watching…while fascinating it was depressing.

duncanm
duncanm
May 31, 2023 8:53 am

So – no wood, no gas, electrickery skyrocketing and cheaper during the day.

What do you heat you homes with in Danistan?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 31, 2023 8:54 am

The #notmypremier hashtag is taking off quite nicely

P
P
May 31, 2023 8:54 am

Clare Nowland remembered for her deep faith and beautiful soul

She was a member of the Society of St Vincent de Paul for over 55 years and helped establish her local Vinnies store.

She also volunteered weekly at the Sir William Hudson Memorial Centre, helping feed elderly residents.

Born in 1928, she lived through the Great Depression, World War II and the COVID-19 pandemic but couldn’t survive the 17 May encounter with police after sustaining critical injuries.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 31, 2023 8:55 am

Vicki – They’re certainly hungry with the cold. The local currawongs have mostly stripped all the available fruits and berries, so come to the Cafe hoping to fill empty bellies. It means I don’t have to change the water bowl so often because they have an annoying habit of throwing up seeds into it. Rule is from the hand or starve – and they learn the rule very quickly!

The magpies are also keen, I have 10 regulars – 6 of the southern clan, 3 of the northern and one ring-in who stealthily sneaks in – she is about 2 years old and very intelligent and is the daughter of a pair that I befriended when out walking. The clan kids are just starting to be evicted, so the number will halve soon.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 8:59 am

Ryokan.
That’s a sticky rice cake, right?
Or is it a bullet train?

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 9:04 am

AFP Detective Scott Moller committed perjury at the ACT Inquiry trying to conceal aiding and abetting Bruce Lehrmann

Shane Dowling
May 31

Sure, lil’ buddy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 9:05 am

Mrs P bought a bag of sawdust briquettes for the fireplace in the Great Hall at the Country Estate.
I was sceptical at first, but they burnt pretty well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 9:06 am

Shane Dowling has been hitting the iodine too hard.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 9:06 am

I thought hentai was a small Honda motorbike.

Oh it can be. It can also be bukk [Editor DB – none of that filth here please.]

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