Open Thread – Tues 30 May 2023


A Bar at the Folie-Bergère, Edouard Manet, 1882

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 31, 2023 9:08 am

Wood heaters a health hazard.
Bad smoke.

Good smoke.
-Smoking ceremonies
-fire stick farming
-60,000 years around the camp fire
-controlled burns

Inter-generational damage here.

P
P
May 31, 2023 9:08 am

Calvary preparing for legal action against ACT Government
31 May 2023

Calvary is ready to take legal action against the ACT Government over its proposed acquisition of Calvary Public Hospital, stating the “unrealistic timeline” has distressed staff and could put patients at risk.
Source: Catholic Voice.

In a statement released yesterday, Calvary said a legal challenge was the only response left available if the debate on the bill was not adjourned to make room for genuine discourse.

The Health Infrastructure Enabling Bill is expected to pass today, allowing the Government to compulsorily acquire the hospital from July 3.

The head of the Save Calvary taskforce, Fr Tony Percy, said the issue was bigger than Calvary.

“What’s at stake here is not the Labor Party, not the Catholic Church, but the rights of ordinary citizens to have proper land and property rights,” he said.

“Over 33,000 people have signed the Save Calvary Petition – however, it seems, we have yet to be heard.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 9:09 am

The ACT government is virtue-signalling if it thinks it can ban wood heaters. They have several suburbs over the border to the east – where we are – which are in NSW and use wood heating quite happily.

This is along their lines of “all the power we generate comes from renewables”. They of course fail. to mention the extension cords to NSW and Victoria.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 9:12 am

Mrs P bought a bag of sawdust briquettes for the fireplace in the Great Hall at the Country Estate. I was sceptical at first, but they burnt pretty well.

Thankfully we have an abundance of ironbark in this neck of the woods.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 9:14 am

This is along their lines of “all the power we generate comes from renewables”. They of course fail. to mention the extension cords to NSW and Victoria.

Lying by omission.

South Australia does it too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 31, 2023 9:16 am

Lefties are so awesomely humourless and with such thin skins.

AOC upset over parody press account cracking up conservative social media (30 May, via Instapundit)

She’s not happy, no not at all.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 31, 2023 9:17 am

I thought hentai was a small Honda motorbike.

Oh it can be. It can also be bukk [Editor DB – none of that filth here please.]

Rule 34

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 9:19 am

Support for Labor’s proposal to change the constitution to give Indigenous Australians their own Voice to Parliament remains soft, despite a blitz of advertising and corporate support for the referendum.

According to figures released by Roy Morgan Research on Tuesday, just 46 per cent of Australians said they would vote “yes” to establish the proposed Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliament if the vote were held today.

Warren Mundine, one of the leaders of the Recognise a Better Way campaign, which is urging Australians to vote no at the referendum, said that the numbers “just go to show the Australian people aren’t mugs.”

“The vitriolic attacks by the yes campaign, and the bullying of people, and the not being able to explain what the Voice is about is simply not working for them,” he said.

“The Australian people see through this, and they want practical outcomes for Aboriginal people and to recognise them and have reconciliation, but they don’t want a huge bureaucracy.”

However, sources within the “yes” camp have indicated that they believe support will swing their way as the campaign advances.

The numbers are unchanged from April, though the number of “undecided” voters has grown by three percentage points to 18 per cent, and come as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese works to move legislation to kick off the referendum process through the House of Representatives.

To pass, a referendum requires both a majority of Australians and a majority of voters in a majority of states to vote in favour of changing the constitution.

That means that along with winning the national popular vote, at least four states need to come in with clear majorities.

The poll indicated that nationally, NSW and Victoria are home to the largest number of “yes” voters.

Queenslanders, meanwhile, remained the most likely to vote “no” by a clear plurality of 46 to 39 per cent.

While Coalition voters remain the most staunchly opposed to the Voice, with just 10 per cent saying they will vote in favour of the change, Labor voters have also softened.

Among ALP supporters, the Voice’s popularity has dropped by 8 points to 67 per cent.

The figures come as both sides of the debate ramp up their advertising and persuasion campaigns.

While the “yes” camp has largely concentrated on major metropolitan market advertising in print and on TV and radio, the “no” camp has revealed that it is banking on a more targeted effort to make its case on social media and online.

While Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has said that the government would not take sides one way or the other by funding either the yes or no campaign as has occurred in previous referendums, critics have said that the government’s neutral advertising campaign smacks of encouraging a yes vote.

Marketing guru Toby Ralph said, “The government TV commercial itself presents the cake without the calories.”

“Its tone and manner are positive thus imply that its nice to vote yes, and harmless because no negatives are countenanced.”

Daily Tele

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 31, 2023 9:20 am

TMS has been around for a while I saw it demonstrated in relationship to depression and Dementia in early days.

I heard of something that sounds very like this back in the 80’s as an aid to giving up smoking.

The claim was that smoking reduced the production of certain neurotransmitters as the brain got them from cigarette smoke in abundance, and the cravings were just the brain needing a top up of what it no longer produced itself – same way we get hungry and need to top up. The difficulty in giving up smoking was starving the brain until it resumed production of aforementioned neurotransmitters. The TMS thing supposedly accelerated the brains re-adapting to produce its own.

And these were the days when a word like ‘neurotransmitter’ was an exclusively scientific word only bandied about by scientificalisticismic minds. Like ‘DNA’ used to be. Or gamma radiation. Or phlogiston.

The fact I did not hear much about it afterward suggests it was still being developed (and a sort of Chinese whispers turned ‘This looks promising’ to ‘This is already working’).

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 9:25 am

While Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has said that the government would not take sides one way or the other…

He’s also a Catholic, don’t you know.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 9:28 am

The new Chris Dawson trial is receiving massive coverage in the Oz. Latest headline: Chris Dawson trial: Sex with students evidence – one twin teaching, the other out back

One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 31, 2023 9:31 am

Vicki

Coal fired energy, timber plantations…… where do these people find alternate means of employment? Compete with the hundreds of thousands of immigrants being bought in? In what industries? If these workers depart from the country towns, how do the latter survive?

What makes you think that those pushing this want country towns to survive (other than to provide servants in the country villas of the elite)? The serfs are easier to control when they are packed into high rise on the urban fringe (away from the haunts of the inner-city overlords).

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 9:32 am

While Coalition voters remain the most staunchly opposed to the Voice, with just 10 per cent saying they will vote in favour of the change, Labor voters have also softened.

Among ALP supporters, the Voice’s popularity has dropped by 8 points to 67 per cent.

I’m dubbing this the ‘Marcia Langton Effect.’

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 31, 2023 9:34 am

I’m dubbing this the ‘Marcia Langton Effect.’

Dunno – I’m dubbing it the “Lidia Thorpe” effect.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 9:40 am

Dunno – I’m dubbing it the “Lidia Thorpe” effect.

Yeah…but Lidia is against the Voice.

Crossie
Crossie
May 31, 2023 9:50 am

What makes you think that those pushing this want country towns to survive (other than to provide servants in the country villas of the elite)? The serfs are easier to control when they are packed into high rise on the urban fringe (away from the haunts of the inner-city overlords).

I believe that’s why tourism will be phased out for the general public. All the best places were becoming overcrowded by the hoi polloi, no way to recognise the important people. It also kills their enjoyment of the scenery.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 31, 2023 9:51 am

Shane Dowling has been hitting the iodine too hard.

Snorting lines of powdered gypsum too, I bet.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 9:52 am

I haven’t had time to check upthread, has Croc Dundee posted those 52 licenses and permits or are we still waiting?

mem
mem
May 31, 2023 10:01 am

Recently, the governing body of the European Union officially endorsed measures to compel farmers to vacate their lands as part of the EU’s Natura 2000 scheme, which categorizes farms as significant emitters of nitrogen.

Under the plan, farmers would be offered 120 percent of their farm’s value through a “buyout” program. However, those who decline this offer would face the risk of being forcibly removed from their land without any financial compensation.

If this plan proves to be successful, it is likely to be replicated in other countries due to its alignment with the WEF’s global environmental agenda.
https://www.technocracy.news/john-kerry-farm-confiscations-not-off-the-table/

Warwick
May 31, 2023 10:02 am

I spent some time in the early 90s at the hometown of a mate from Uni in the Monaro. Native timber and sheep were the towns bread and butter. Town was infested with greenies that use to stop in town and buy supplies before heading out to chain themselves to gum trees.They were shocked they didn’t attract much in the way of love from the locals. From memory, Bobby Carr made most of their forests national park and all but shut down the industry. The resources were always beautifully and intelligently managed from the forestry commission. The foregone economic loss over the years since would be staggering. The ultimate renewable resource abandoned.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 31, 2023 10:03 am

Wood heaters a health hazard.
Bad smoke.

Good smoke.
-Smoking ceremonies
-fire stick farming
-60,000 years around the camp fire
-controlled burns

This is why I made sure to get into the system as indigenous – by answering yes when being processed into the prison in Canberra – now I can light fires and make smoke whenever I want, as is traditional for my people*

*I am a proud Bass Strait Islander, my traditional lands run from the northern coast of Tasmania to the south coast of Victoria, as the numerous ancient trees and campsites attest.

Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 10:03 am

The U.S. ‘won’t tolerate’ China’s ban on Micron and the Japanese have gone even further

China Insights
If the CCP strictly enforces this requirement and insists that “critical” infrastructure can only be served by Chinese suppliers, the result will be to force local Chinese network and server companies to deploy sub-par components, thus weakening their own capabilities.
On May 23rd, the second day after the CCP cracked down on Micron, Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry introduced new chip export control measures, adding 23 categories, including advanced chip manufacturing equipment, to the list of control targets. The broad export restrictions, which will take effect on July 23rd, 2023, have China’s semiconductor industry concerned that its production of lower-grade chips will also be affected.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
May 31, 2023 10:06 am

Wally Dalí says: May 30, 2023 at 11:00 pm

I’ll have a good looking one, Wally!

Warwick
May 31, 2023 10:08 am

xx Foregone economic benefit I meant above xx

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 10:09 am

One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…
That would be interesting, since Paul Dawson died a few years ago.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 31, 2023 10:15 am

81 years today since the midget submarine raid on Sydney Harbour, and still the commanders of the small ships that sunk two out of three of the attackers are unrewarded. Meanwhile the two senior commanders of the night got away with their incompetence.

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/history/2022/08/unsung-heroes-of-the-night-war-came-to-sydney/

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 31, 2023 10:15 am

While Coalition voters remain the most staunchly opposed to the Voice, with just 10 per cent saying they will vote in favour of the change

Isn’t that the weirdest thing to see? The Coalition supporting the views of their supporters?

Pesutto remains staunchly devoted to the political principles of Trumble.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 31, 2023 10:20 am

JC says:
May 31, 2023 at 9:52 am
I haven’t had time to check upthread, has Croc Dundee posted those 52 licenses and permits or are we still waiting?

It’s your stoush JC.
You put in the effort to keep up.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 31, 2023 10:21 am

What do you heat you homes with in Danistan?

Their love for the Maximum Leader is enough to keep them warm.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 10:28 am

On your bike Schoolie.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 31, 2023 10:31 am

Ed Case says:
May 31, 2023 at 10:09 am
One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…
That would be interesting, since Paul Dawson died a few years ago.

Would that be the same Paul Dawson who gave evidence at Chris’ murder trial in June 2022?
The Paul Dawson who was at the trial on its concluding day in May of this year?

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 10:32 am

Well for WA Cats, I think we’ve dodged a bullet. Cook as Premier is far better than Amber Jade (who makes Marx look like a fascist).

And everyone remembers what Cook has done to the hospital system. Ramping up from 1,000 hours to 6,000 hours (in 2016 he called on Barnett to resign given ramping had reached 1,000 hours lol!!!)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 31, 2023 10:33 am

Target CEO Shocks Host by Doubling Down on Pushing Diversity on Customers

Also Target.

Groom And Doom: Target Shares Mark Longest Losing Streak In Almost 5 Years (31 May)

Those yummy CEO bonuses are looking a little sick, mate.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 10:34 am

Would that be the same Paul Dawson who gave evidence at Chris’ murder trial in June 2022?
The Paul Dawson who was at the trial on its concluding day in May of this year?

Could be, Pin occhio.
But he’s brown bread now.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 10:37 am

And everyone remembers what Cook has done to the hospital system. Ramping up from 1,000 hours to 6,000 hours (in 2016 he called on Barnett to resign given ramping had reached 1,000 hours lol!!!)

He would also have signed off on every one of McGowan’s covid measures.

If only WA had a credible Opposition.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:38 am

That would be interesting, since Paul Dawson died a few years ago.

Um…

Would that be the same Paul Dawson who gave evidence at Chris’ murder trial in June 2022?
The Paul Dawson who was at the trial on its concluding day in May of this year?
Could be, Pin occhio.
But he’s brown bread now.

Bizarro world.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 10:39 am

There is a surviving Dawson brother attending the present Trial, he is a retired Solicitor, not a former Chalkie.
Yesterday’s Ozzie has a picture of him, but Paul Dawson is still brown bread.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 10:40 am

The WA Libs need to get a leader who is currently outside of Parliament and do a Campbell Newman. Basil Zempilas is the name being thrown around but I’m not entirely convinced…

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 10:42 am

Chris Dawson also has an Appeal against the Murder Conviction working it’s way thru the system, so all is not lost.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:44 am

It’s really bizarre to make a snarky comment about food prices referring to 3D printing. As in, seriously mentally retarded.

3D printing has been used by aerospace manufacturing since 1989.
The (metal [nickel-based alloy]) fuel injection for the liquid fuel/oxygen of the Arianne rockets is made by 3D printing. That one part replaces 248 other parts.
An Australian-based, Victorian company has proprietary 3D printing hardware and software and has ongoing sales & service contracts with Volkswagen, Porsche & Mercedes Benz. The same company reckons 3D printing can do manufacturing in 1/5th of the time of CAD/CNC manufacturing.

I can’t fathom the depth of impotent rage and silliness it takes to bring up years-old conjecture over the lack of utility of such technology and apply it to a current discussion about food prices.

Crossie
Crossie
May 31, 2023 10:45 am

Under the plan, farmers would be offered 120 percent of their farm’s value through a “buyout” program. However, those who decline this offer would face the risk of being forcibly removed from their land without any financial compensation.

The communist party is coming for the kulaks.

Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 10:47 am

Basil Zempilas is the name being thrown around but I’m not entirely convinced…

Zempilas is a media whore who, above all else, loves being popular. That’s a lefty thing as lefties fear not being fashionable more than death itself.

The idea that a populist would want to lead the smoking ruin of the Stupid Frigging WA Liberals is laughable.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:48 am

Gentlemen,

Rev up your valuations!

(Selling up on the east coast might be a good idea right now. Remember, 847,000 AUD for a one-bedroom apartment in Newtown. She “won” that auction, apparently.)

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 31, 2023 10:49 am

It’s almost parody now, SFL style. Hun:

Opposition Leader John Pesutto is facing his first major electoral test, with a byelection looming in Warrandyte following the sudden resignation of MP Ryan Smith.

Mr Smith announced his resignation on Wednesday morning, after confiding in some colleagues overnight.

Mr Pesutto, who was not personally notified of the resignation, said he would “throw everything” at a byelection in a bid to retain the seat.

The seat has been held by the Liberal Party since 1988, and was comfortably retained at last year’s election despite Mr Smith suffering a small swing against his primary vote share.

Pollster Kos Samaras, a director with RedBridge, said the byelection could produce a similar shock result as seen in April in the federal seat of Aston.

It was the first time in a century a federal government won a seat from opposition at a byelection with Labor taking the seat from the Liberal Party.

“The Warrandyte by–election, in part, could be a mini Aston,” Mr Samaras said.

“The electorate is basically in three parts. Along its northern borders, the combined Labor and Greens vote has been steadily increasing over several elections.

“Across to the west, the Liberal Party has been losing the two party preferred battle across most Doncaster-based polling places.

“It’s within the southern part of the electorate where the Liberal Party will hope to hold its ground and avoid a repeat of what occurred at the Aston by-election earlier this year.

“On paper, it’s demographically a strong seat for the Liberal Party.”

The Liberals currently hold the seat with a 4 per cent margin.

After entering parliament in 2006 Mr Smith served as Minister for Environment and Climate Change and Minister for Youth Affairs as part of the Baillieu government.

He has also served in various shadow ministry positions including most recently Shadow Minister for Finance, for Planning and Heritage and for Suburban Recovery.

He was dumped from the shadow cabinet when Mr Pesutto won a leadership challenge in December.

Party figures have accused Mr Smith of being a longtime agitator and destabilising figure within the partyroom.

He unsuccessfully challenged for the leadership in December.

In his statement of resignation, Mr Smith said he had become increasingly uncomfortable with the growing negative tone of politics “both internally and more broadly”.

“After over 16 years serving as the Member for Warrandyte, and with a great deal of consideration, I have decided it is time to bring this chapter of my life to a close,” he said.

Mr Smith thanked his community for its support over five election wins.

“My hope is that you believed I did my best to represent you and to be responsive to your needs,” Mr Smith said.

“Whenever the cut and thrust of politics made me question my career choices, spending time in our community always gave me the positive answer why.”

Mr Smith also thanked the party-faithful.

“Whether it be handing out How to Vote cards or nominating to be a candidate, you are the foundation of our movement,” he said.

“I ask you to never forget our values and principles and to remind those who do.”

He thanked his staff, saying he could not have asked for better.

“I wish the next Member for Warrandyte the very best of luck and remain optimistic that the contest of ideas will ultimately provide Victoria with its best days ahead.”

Mr Pesutto said he wanted to pay tribute to Mr Smith. (Code for piss off)

“He’s served in very senior rolls which is a testament to his capacity to contribute,” he said.

“I know he’s been a very active representative of the people of Warrandyte.

“I think parties go through periods of transition constantly, and so you’ve got to accept that this is part of the process of being a strong opposition that’s working its way towards government,” he said. (Don’t laugh kind reader)

Premier Daniel Andrews said it would be up to his party’s administration whether Labor would contest the seat.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 10:50 am

Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!

….for 15 minutes…

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 10:50 am

Mike Cannon-Brookes’ investment partner in Sun Cable says its investment focus is not on the subsea cable to Singapore, long the key component in the project, and that the development could eventually expand from solar energy to wind power.

So can we drop the stupid premise of the pipe going to Singapore?
If MC-B has dropped, when will the media?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 31, 2023 10:51 am

While Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has said that the government would not take sides one way or the other:

If you don’t vote Yes, you’re a Chicken Little and… and… and… an ungrateful fart poo bum.

Marketing guru Toby Ralph said, “The government TV commercial itself presents the cake without the calories.”

“Its tone and manner are positive thus imply that its nice to vote yes, and harmless because no negatives are countenanced.”

No net negatives for Uncle Luigi. A constitutionally-enshrined supporting Voice for ALP reelection.

What could be nicer than that?

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:51 am

Lysander – “oh they were all booked out!”???

If you wait long enough, it’s true!

rosie
rosie
May 31, 2023 10:51 am

Just make sure you don’t pay cash and get a proper invoice Lysander.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 10:54 am

With the likes of the Pesuttos, Turnbulls, Keans of this world, I can’t help but recall the Soviet Union’s strategy of having commies join Catholic seminaries and work their way up through the hierarchy.

It’s not a new “play” but you’d think people would’ve woken up to it by now…

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 31, 2023 10:54 am
Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:55 am

Just make sure they have an ABN, current registered business and name, confirmed director IDs, proof of indigenous heritage, an ESG statement and are LGBQTI2A+ friendly…

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 31, 2023 10:57 am

Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!

….for 15 minutes…

That’s where you proceed without that shit, and be 1K better off. Hourly rate of 4 large. FMD the graft be strong.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 10:58 am

Paul Dawson is an Australian former professional rugby league footballer

My favourite reference, Eddie Vedder.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:00 am

Shane Dowling has been hitting the iodine too hard.

The OH&S guys have spoken to him about that. There are file notes if there is a problem.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 11:03 am

Scrolling the news.com.au
That Billy Brownless is a little cringe these days isn’t he?

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 11:05 am

Always was, bern.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:06 am

Basil Zempilas is the name being thrown around but I’m not entirely convinced…

One does not merely throw the name Basil around for cheap laughs in Perf. Despite how effective it may be.

Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 11:08 am

Mass Immigration is Mass Betrayal

The New Culture Forum

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 31, 2023 11:09 am

Medicine is stuffed.

Johns Hopkins Medicine staff given roadmap to navigate dozens of pronouns: ‘faerself, ve, xe” (30 May)

Employees at Johns Hopkins Medicine in Maryland were given a new pronoun usage guide that lists dozens of pronouns include “aerself” and “faerself” while staffers navigate a recent inclusive ID policy, Fox News Digital has learned. A pronoun usage guide from Johns Hopkins Medicine details 50 different pronouns that health care employees could use in the workplace, with other options including ve, xe, per and ae.

If a premier hospital doesn’t understand biology what hope do we have? Covid and woke have destroyed the entire industry in less than 5 years, it’s amazing how fast such things can take place.
Anyway what is a ‘faerself’?

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 11:09 am

HB – everyone is saying Basil but he’s got a Mayoral election coming up and we’re still two years out from a State election. At least we know Liebor will lose more seats now in 2025 (although, its lower house majority of 55-5 is hardly going to swing so far as to lose govt)

Rabz
May 31, 2023 11:11 am

Prosciutto, who was not personally notified of the resignation

Agreed BB, this really is laugh a minute stuff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:11 am

Don’t forget the 6PR connection. Just sayin’. Join the dots people.

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 11:16 am

Anyway what is a ‘faerself’?

Genderless narcissistic woodland sprite?

AKA that idiot over there.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 11:18 am

Good news.

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/anthony-albanese-backs-calvary-hospital-takeover-two-days-before-laws-set-to-pass/

(29/5/23, updated 30/5/23 – sorry if this is a repost)

Calvary Health has committed to mounting a legal challenge to the ACT Government’s compulsory acquisition of Calvary Public Hospital if debate on the bill, slated for 31 May, cannot be “adjourned to make room for genuine discourse.”

The announcement from Calvary National CEO Martin Bowles came as The Catholic Weekly went to print, amidst a sharp disagreement between the Archbishop of Sydney, Anthony Fisher OP, and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who has indicated his support for the hospital takeover.

A legal challenge was “the only response left available” Calvary national chief executive Martin Bowles wrote in a statement published on 30 May.

“Calvary continues to be frustrated by the ACT Government’s delays to consider any meaningful options for resolving the negotiations since introduction of [the bill] on 11 May, 2023, and has now been forced to take this step,” he wrote.

“Our review of the proposed legislation and associated regulation indicates that just terms are simply not available and outside of this there is no indication that commercial terms are available to resolve this matter.

“The proposed legislation was created for the ACT Government to compulsorily acquire the whole of Calvary’s public hospital enterprise including its land, the public hospital assets and other rights which Calvary has under the existing lease and Network Agreements.

“All we have is an announcement and an imposed unrealistic timeline that has distressed our people and could ultimately put clinical safety at risk.”

Archbishop Fisher has also issued his own statement calling on the community to write to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese about the “egregious” compulsory acquisition, after the prime minister told The Canberra Times he supported the ACT Government’s decision.

Become ungovernable!

Another aspect is the Federal government’s invitation to “Calvary Health” or its predecessor organisation. The fact that the Commonwealth had an input to the equitable interest in the real property means that the Federal prohibition on compensation not made on just terms can probably be invoked without the Commonwealth intervening for the ACT. I am sure their own counsel have made a reasonable assessment of this. I think they should launch into the human rights law aspect of this too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:18 am

You expect Cook won’t get the soft soap treatment from the WA press. Some mutterings about his time in charge of Health. The WA Lieborals (both of them) have plenty to work with. Hopefully they do a better job than their Victoriastani colleagues. A long way back in purely numerical terms. Liars in Nedlands is a pure aberration though.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 11:21 am

Chris Dawson is “dead”.
The partisans who executed Mussolini “weren’t even Italian”.

Intentionally brain dead wrongology. This idiot’s only intent is to clog up the threads and stop libertarians and conservatives from talking.

Time to pull the plug, Dover.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 11:23 am

Don’t forget the 6PR connection. Just sayin’. Join the dots people.

6PR have been pushing hard for Baz, but they’re 9 news owned… Baz was a poster boy for 7.

Bushkid
Bushkid
May 31, 2023 11:23 am

If this plan proves to be successful, it is likely to be replicated in other countries due to its alignment with the WEF’s global environmental agenda.
https://www.technocracy.news/john-kerry-farm-confiscations-not-off-the-table/

Perhaps John Kerry can begin his pogrom with Bill Gates’ farmland holdings……

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 11:24 am

Anyway what is a ‘faerself’?

It’s a rare mushroom that only grows during July on the southern slopes of the Dandenong ranges.
Great with truffles & butter.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:25 am

Yep can’t see Basil signing up for two terms as Leader of the Opposition like Sneakers did under Emperor Barney’s reich.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:28 am

Baz was a poster boy for 7

That’s like trying to live NOR and SOR. Just can’t be done.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 31, 2023 11:28 am

Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!

….for 15 minutes…

Not slow on the uptake of gubba business. It’s Grift World out there.

A few days ago I needed document copies certified by a solicitor or barrister (UK credentialism writ large). Mrs F is a related party, so for convenience off round the corner to a local Family Law/Wills/Magistrates Court firm for a stamp and signature.

Receptionist: Are you a client?
Faustus: No, thank goodness.
R: Well, we’ll have to charge a small fee, then.
F: Ok?
R: One billing unit.
F: Ok, so six minutes?
R: No, that’s an hour, $430.
F: Escuse?
R: Well, there’s Know Your Client and insurance and all sorts…

Job done elsewhere.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 31, 2023 11:29 am

81 years today since the midget submarine raid on Sydney Harbour, and still the commanders of the small ships that sunk two out of three of the attackers are unrewarded. Meanwhile the two senior commanders of the night got away with their incompetence.

Perhaps Gen ‘Scary eyes’ Campbell could sling them a DSC or 2… if he’s not too busy ‘walking past’ that standard?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:30 am

Time to pull the plug, Dover.

Who’ll look after Mother?

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 11:38 am

Another aspect is the Federal government’s invitation to “Calvary Health” or its predecessor organisation.

Whilst the ACT existed, but before self-government.

Many new Mercedes Benz/AMGs may hit the roads in the Southern Highlands because of this SNAFU.

A rich, rich vein.

Cassie of Sydney
May 31, 2023 11:39 am

“The New Culture Forum”

I am a paid up member, they do stellar stuff.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 11:51 am

“The New Culture Forum”

What do they do ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 11:56 am

The ACT is like a 2yo who’s found their parent’s dress up box.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 31, 2023 12:01 pm

Heres the hot gooss, on the QT and the downlow on a story which might get spun out on their ABCcess today.

Set of units in Feraldton, in Spalding has been getting refurbished and the builder just handed them over to the relevent authority yesterday.
Last night a horde of voiceless youths went in and wrecked the lot.
Builder has expresed a desire to not ever work in the area again after numerous thefts, rock throwing, and break ins while doing the work.
Their ABCcess has already worked out an angle. They are interviewing an old Aboriginal lady who was slated to move into one of those units about how awful it is…

The area has been designated as a “super suburb” or some other wankery, to be resserected from its squalid state and made into a shiny land of future opportunity! Lots and lots of government munni, and a new planning scheme to punish those businessess already existing in the area for not being located in the new planned “looting hub” area.
And in one of the most fantastic imaginings ever, the area is to become tree lined streets and more of a garden environment.

Spalding is absolute proof of “sties dont make pigs“, a area of lower middle class aspirations enriched by the importation of welfare class turds because god knew, once the welfare class turds were in a nice area they would change their ways!

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 12:10 pm

Spalding … a area of lower middle class aspirations …

Doesn’t sound like mUnty would be too impressed with it. Geraldton is an acquired taste … so I’m told. I did have dinner there once with a former colleague at some marina type thing.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 31, 2023 12:17 pm

Who’ll look after Mother?

He needs to get out. Spread his wings, a la Bad Boy Bubby

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 12:27 pm

What occurred was that the passage of time simply eroded whatever remaining scruples society had about further changes down the line.

This is a genuine case of being able to blame boomers.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 31, 2023 12:28 pm

Spread his wings, a la Bad Boy Bubby

Was that the jail cell scene?

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 12:31 pm

at some marina type thing.

Most likely Mantra. For a job I had between 2014-17 I was in Gerro at least once a fortnight…the place has got a bad wrap but I actually thought it’d improved somewhat…

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 31, 2023 12:39 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 31, 2023 at 10:34 am
Would that be the same Paul Dawson who gave evidence at Chris’ murder trial in June 2022?
The Paul Dawson who was at the trial on its concluding day in May of this year?
Could be, Pin occhio.
But he’s brown bread now.

LOL.”A few years” compresses to less than a month in Grandpa Cletus world.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 31, 2023 12:41 pm

I am listening to an audio-book ‘Living the French revolution and the Age of Napolean’ by Suzanne M. Desan.. Am only half way through the 48 lecturs (30min each).

The stand out item for me is the view of Revolutionaries once having taken power were so confident and emboldened to change every element of French society including calendars, festivals, plays, culture.. and not be content with that, but then feel necessary to apply this to all neighbouring countries…and beyond. The alignment with current day Net Zero policies and woke agenda are truly incredible.

History repeating…again.

Gilas
Gilas
May 31, 2023 12:44 pm

As one of the scroll-back-ers of this august blog, I saw this:

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:18 pm

There’s bad genes in most tribes. If there’s any who can’t take it, possibly they’re of the same blood as those who gave rise to the reputation of Italians as inclined to surrender, designed tanks with multiple reverse gears, etc.

In high school, as a proud Italian-European (…), I used to be derided with this, all the time.
Then I’d point out that Italy lost fewer people than all other major players, in both World Wars, for example…
What I didn’t know then, was that several minor players eg: Greece, Philippines et al, also lost more lives than Italy.
Having survived almost two millennia of ritual abuse by several European and ME powers does tend to hone one’s own instinct for survival. It also enhances olfactory detection of a demagogue’s BS, something that many other ethnic groups are still struggling with.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 12:45 pm

I once heard, but could never verify, that Napoleon attempted to change the names of the days or months in an effort to have people forget when important religious/historical festivities were meant to occur.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 12:49 pm

What I didn’t know then, was that several minor players eg: Greece, Philippines et al, also lost more lives than Italy.

It’s like the French at Gallipoli.
Up until about 10 years ago, I didn’t even know they were there, let alone about their sacrifice.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 31, 2023 12:51 pm

Lysander.

That was the Robspierre/revolutionaries, literally wanted the recvolution to be the new year zero.
https://snippetsofparis.com/french-revolutionary-calendar/#:~:text=In%201793%2C%20the%20French%20revolutionaries,make%20the%20whole%20thing%20even.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 12:55 pm

Ah thanks FM!!!!

A bit like Pol Pot!!!

Gilas
Gilas
May 31, 2023 12:56 pm

Some more scroll-backing later..

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
May 30, 2023 at 9:20 pm

Simply identify as Italian for a few days. As a sort of a ‘warm up’
See how you feel about it. – take it from there.

Forget the food, the design, the engineering, the art. Just look at the city-scapes, the older buildings, the general ambience of thousands of smaller villages and the way they blend into the mountainous landscapes…
Of course, in keeping with The West today, it’s now all going to sh!t.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 12:56 pm

A man accused of making threats to former ABC presenter Stan Grant and his family has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”, posting his alleged threats via video on social media.

Oh, he must work for the ABC.

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 31, 2023 1:03 pm

a greater or lesser extent.
Moreover, I don’t think that whether or not the social changes are ‘bottom-up’ or ‘top-down’ makes a difference in the end given that the changes currently experienced are substantively related to those of the 60s and 70s and naturally flow from them.

According to James Lindsay it’s all bottom up, top down, inside out outside in.

Lots of astroturfing to make it look bottom up ATM

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 31, 2023 1:05 pm

Stan was racially abused by a bloke with a pony tail.
Oh the inhumanity!

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 1:06 pm

A man accused of making threats to former ABC presenter Stan Grant and his family has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”, posting his alleged threats via video on social media.

Hmm it only occurred to me after posting but I’m not sure what being a right wing christian has to do with anything. Oh wait, I see…

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 31, 2023 1:09 pm

I once heard, but could never verify, that Napoleon attempted to change the names of the days or months in an effort to have people forget when important religious/historical festivities were meant to occur.
Close but not quite. Twas the Revolutionaries before Napolean. Change the weeks to ‘Decades’ …10 days each x 3 = month or some other word. Changed all the days names, changed all the months names. People were pissed off for having to work on the 7th day. …when should we hold our local market day…big confusion and anxiety …There was a big push to de-Christianise France. Churches and Statues were removed or converted, Priests were coerced to pledge allegiance to the Revolution instead of God. >>>replaced many of the church holiday/festivals to reflect the Revolution or Liberte!

One win and they felt they had a mandate to change everything. …effectively splitting the nation. Sounds familiar.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 1:09 pm

… stop libertarians and conservatives from talking.

Uh, yeah.
[Sample conversation]:
Libertarian: Trannies have Rights too!

Conservative: [Thinks] WTF?

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 1:12 pm

Thanks Fair Shake, much appreciated and will be info that is used!!!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 31, 2023 1:18 pm

Bern.

It’s like the French at Gallipoli.
Up until about 10 years ago, I didn’t even know they were there, let alone about their sacrifice.

Worst thing was the naval campaign should have worked.
Would have shortened the war by 2 years.

Try this little factoid..

The minesweepers the whole plan depended on were all civilian crewed trawlers, some of which bolted on bits of steel plate for protection.
NONE were lost during the first purely naval attempts to force the straight and casualties were almost none among the crews.
The Grand Vizier had his car packed, the treasury was being moved and Constantinople was in a panic.
The Greeks offered to have a run through to unseat the Turks (but that was vetoed by the Russians, who wanted the glory of reclaiming Byzantium).

Bouvet has some footage of it going down, under 30 seconds from hitting a mine to hitting the bottom.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 31, 2023 1:19 pm

Labor 54/5.
LNP were 78/7 in 2012 courtesy of a uniform Swing, 3 years later it was Labor 46/43.
McGowan had a uniform Swing in 2021, helped along by outrage over the Brittany Higgins issue.
The Liberals could easily pick up 25 seats in 2025.

turnip
turnip
May 31, 2023 1:20 pm

81 years today since the midget submarine raid on Sydney Harbour, and still the commanders of the small ships that sunk two out of three of the attackers are unrewarded. Meanwhile the two senior commanders of the night got away with their incompetence.

They probably had a beer afterwards so are no longer eligible for awards anyway.

Vagabond
Vagabond
May 31, 2023 1:30 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 31, 2023 at 11:39 am

“The New Culture Forum”
I am a paid up member, they do stellar stuff.

They have a terrific channel on YouTube and are involved in the battle against the forces of leftism and wokeness with all their attendant insanity. The speakers are highly articulate and very well informed. It’s a pleasure to watch and makes you realise how much we badly need an equivalent organisation in this country.

One of the best things to see in some NCF videos is the participation of younger people who have managed to escape the indoctrination of the left.

Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 1:30 pm

US ‘Nuclear Umbrella’ to Cover Taiwan? | China In Focus
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05:14 China Rejects Meeting with U.S. Defense Chief
06:42 Mexico: in Talks with China to Fight Fentanyl
08:20 Chinese Warship Sails Through Taiwan Strait
09:05 China Urges Japan to Halt Chip Export Controls
10:16 What’s at Stake in U.S.-China Race to the Moon? Need to Meet China’s Space Ambitions: Analyst
13:36 Seoul Hosts First Korea-Pacific Islands Summit
14:39 A 14-Year Fight for Justice: Daughter Petitions Over Mother’s Death in Black Jail

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 31, 2023 1:31 pm

and Remember most the Revolutionaries were the start of the Left. (as they sat on the left side of the hall). The Right initially supported much of the change, reflected the Aristocracy and the Monarchy supporters.

Am only half way thru the book , am up to early 1793, but I understand soonish.. if you were not a Revolutionary…wholeheartedly, the Terror awaits which includes the guillotine.

Poor old Louis has just lost he head. His behaviour reminded me of Turnbull. Said one thing, meant something else, tried to run away, doing back room deals with enemies, left enough of a mess and paper trail to convict him. Whilst most the right wanted to support a Monarchy, they found it hard to support Louis.

..oh and the left changed the constitution, after 3 years so they could try and execute Louis. Previously he was exempted and protected by the Revolutionary constitution. So the Left do have history in changing constitutions to suit. As Mark Steyn pointed out, in the public library, the French Constitution is filed under ‘Periodicals’. LOL.

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 1:33 pm

It’s hard for me to conclude that attitudes to pornography, for instance, “stems from regulation, punishment, information control, coersion , corrupted judicial systems, and perverted contempt for societal norms” when they are in fact the societal norm.

I’m just old enough to remember when consumers of pornography were regarded by normal people as perverts. It’s quite a revolutionary change within one lifetime.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 1:36 pm

roger

What would society back then think of OnlyFans or porn stars getting married?

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 1:37 pm

A man accused of making threats to former ABC presenter Stan Grant and his family has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”…

I’m afraid the mentally ill defence won’t be run by the media in this instance.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 31, 2023 1:38 pm

Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!

….for 15 minutes…

Tell him/her/it they’ve got five seconds to do it and they get paid pro rata

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 1:40 pm

What would society back then think of OnlyFans or porn stars getting married?

What’s OnlyFans?

Roger
Roger
May 31, 2023 1:40 pm

What would society back then think of OnlyFans or porn stars getting married?

Erm…first you’d have to explain what OnlyFans is.

And I’m just here while I wolf down my sandwich and a glass of raw milk for lunch.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 1:44 pm

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It’s like how, you know, Tinder is to meet new people in a city you move to, or meet a nice tour guide whilst on vacation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 31, 2023 1:45 pm

has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”

Looks and sounds every inch like one. Not. Pretty clearly a feral though. I wonder if he rides a Harley?

Menacing videos emerge of an accused stalker taunting ABC TV host Stan Grant before he stood down from Q&A: ‘I’m going to beat the living s*** out of you’ (Daily Mail, 31 May)

‘Police commenced an investigation into the incident,’ she said. ‘Following inquires, police arrested a 41-year-old man in Fairfield Heights at 6.40pm [on May 24].

Shatterzzz’s stamping ground!

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 1:51 pm

has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”

Oh. Half the QandA audience then.

Because I believe them, don’t you?

calli
calli
May 31, 2023 1:52 pm

Fairfield Heights, the hub of Christianity and conservatism in Sydney.

Oh my sides!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Shatterzzz’s stamping ground!

Well spotted. Saaaaaay, has Shatterzzzz been seen anytime in the past week?

mem
mem
May 31, 2023 1:53 pm

DrBeauGansays:
May 31, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!

….for 15 minutes…

Tell him/her/it they’ve got five seconds to do it and they get paid pro rata
I’m looking at starting up a company selling video versions of welcome to the country with genuine originals performing $100 each. Or if you wish a livestream performance $200.00 A range of Smoking kits available to purchase.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 2:02 pm

Anyway what is a ‘faerself’?

You never have to use it, always refer to them as “The Good Folk” or not at all; being coerced to use their real name is not only cultural appropriation, it is disrespectful (and is said to bring “bad luck”).

Seriously, ask an Irish folklorist!

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 31, 2023 2:07 pm

Nah, dot. It’s a mushroom.

Rabz
May 31, 2023 2:10 pm

has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative” (living in Fairfield Heights)

Sounds like some Hi-Alanism gone horribly wrong. He’s probably a huge fan of Vogon poetry as well.

Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 2:25 pm
Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 2:28 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/05/great-letter-to-defence-chief-general-angus-campbell-from-an-afghanistan-veteran-lest-we-forget.html

Thanks Mac Siccar for posting this link. Great letter to Campbell – whoever wrote it – TOPS!!!

I have posted a comment on the matter at www. michaelsmithnews.com & suggest that others do.

Will try to get letter to the Oz as this matter festers and explodes in the media – but I doubt if they would publish what I would have to say. They have done so in the past, on this matter, but I feel in my bones that Editorial policy is changing.

mem
mem
May 31, 2023 2:32 pm

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Kneel
Kneel
May 31, 2023 2:33 pm

“I’ll be Jessica Rabbit thank you very much.”

Not bad, just drawn that way, eh?
🙂

shatterzzz
May 31, 2023 2:38 pm

Shatterzzz’s stamping ground!

sTan should have dropped the charges .. Fairfield Heights is Assyrian central .. not only do these folk hunt in packs they, never, ever forget ……!

shatterzzz
May 31, 2023 2:44 pm

Fairfield Heights, the hub of Christianity and conservatism in Sydney.

be pretty close pass any of the ethnic christian churches out here on a Saturday/Sunday when they are finishing up and they are out on the footpath and there are several dozens of folk congregating and there’s no shortage of these churches around here ……

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 2:47 pm

Gilas

Why are you responding to a lowrent fraud like Driller?He runs a rundown motel in the middle of shitcreek.
And you ought to read the reviews.

Also, regarding your school days. I damn hope you fought back. I was suspended a couple of times for getting into scrapes like those you mentioned. One doofus was pretending he was concussed to get me into trouble. My parents were exasperated.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 2:50 pm

I was in Gerro at least once a fortnight…the place has got a bad wrap but I actually thought it’d improved somewhat…

Ha ha. Coming off a low base. You can’t judge a place till you’ve lived in it – but I’ve never let that stop me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 2:55 pm

A man accused of making threats to former ABC presenter Stan Grant and his family has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”, posting his alleged threats via video on social media.

The police brief of evidence shows a beer coaster from the Halls Gap pub was found in the passenger footwell of his car.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 3:03 pm

It’s the IPA bomb threats all over again. Poor sTan.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 31, 2023 3:07 pm

Probably a comment of very niche interest but…

I just watched an examination of the annihilation of historical fact that is the Netflix series Cleopatra. Its infamy goes far further than I had ever dared to suspect.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 3:23 pm

good letter but what “news that will reverberate around the world” is coming tomorrow????

John H.
John H.
May 31, 2023 3:25 pm
Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 3:30 pm
Kneel
Kneel
May 31, 2023 3:37 pm

“the Cortina with the 250 engine done in 2-tone copper-bronze. Gawd that used to go hard.”

Not bad MT, but better with a 351 Windsor in ’em – that makes ’em “stained passenger seats” fast 😉

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 31, 2023 3:41 pm

“news that will reverberate around the world” is coming tomorrow?

Would that be the planned release of the verdict in the BR Smith defamation suit?
Ben Roberts-Smith war crimes defamation verdict to be delivered on Thursday 1 June

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 3:43 pm

Thanks FM – didn’t realise that was coming out tomorrow.

ABC staff on standby for outrage.

Gilas
Gilas
May 31, 2023 3:46 pm

JC says:
May 31, 2023 at 2:47 pm

Why are you responding to a lowrent fraud like Driller?He runs a rundown motel in the middle of shitcreek.
And you ought to read the reviews.

I don’t take sides in Cat stoushes. All posts duly credited to their poster.
In my Universe, there’s some good in all of us (Montz and Eddles excepted).

Also, regarding your school days. I damn hope you fought back. I was suspended a couple of times for getting into scrapes like those you mentioned. One doofus was pretending he was concussed to get me into trouble. My parents were exasperated.

This was Sydney’s West and I was badly outnumbered. Talking back rather than fighting was more productive, and avoided the ever-present cane.
Coming from Northern Italy, I was faced with a novel type of adolescent: a less civilised, more primitive human. Quite the revelation.
These racists were essentially unreconstructed, ignorant cretins who left after Yr 10. The ones left were all sons of immigrants and did well in the HSC.. here was our ultimate victory.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 31, 2023 3:53 pm

Lysandersays:
May 31, 2023 at 3:43 pm
Thanks FM – didn’t realise that was coming out tomorrow.

ABC staff on standby for outrage.

Items already written and recorded.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 31, 2023 3:54 pm

Glad you mentioned the gate at the station, Rugbyskier. There is also a fun modern fountain there – from memory it’s a clock as well.

Yes, I have seen the fountain that calli mentioned. It has bubbling water forming words and numbers, alternating between ‘Kanazawa’ in romaji, ‘??’ which is Kanazawa in kanji, and the current time.

For the gardening fans, the three parks that are ‘the most beautiful gardens in Japan’ are Kenrokuen in Kanazawa, Korakuen in Okayama and Kairakuen in Mito.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 31, 2023 3:57 pm

I see the software doesn’t like kanji characters. The two characters that make up Kanazawa’s name are ‘gold/golden’ and ‘marsh’. Makes sense as goldsmithing is still a major activity in Kanazawa and you can get ice creams with gold leaf around the city.

Bruce
Bruce
May 31, 2023 4:04 pm

@ Robert Sewell:

“If it’s not XXXX Bitter, it’s not beer.”

XXXX before Bond/Swan and Lion Nathan; or after?

Coopers Draught, from the keg is a MUCH more satisfactory drop.

But, in my dotage, I mainly drink a reasonable Merlot or Cab Sav to wash down a decent pasta or a lamb chop and veg..

The traditional Queensland “Bundy and Coke” is out of my price range these days.

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
May 31, 2023 4:26 pm

The traditional Queensland “Bundy and Coke” is out of my price range these days.

Yeah, tell me about it, Bruce, gotten to the stage where I can’t even afford water. Oh well, it is what it is. Will be taken care of soon.

Kneel
Kneel
May 31, 2023 4:26 pm

“… but they burnt pretty well.”

A reference to the wood, or does Mrs P use “they/them” pronouns?
🙂

Delta A
Delta A
May 31, 2023 4:32 pm

Oh well, it is what it is. Will be taken care of soon.

It’s not all bad, wivenhoe. You still have your wit and your charm. Not many wealthy men can say that.

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 4:48 pm

US issued war crime warning over SAS troops
Defence chief drops senate bombshell, revealing the US government warned allegations of war crimes against Australian soldiers could prevent the country’s armed forces working toge…
JESS MALCOLM

Just appeared. Campbell is preparing for the pushback by invoking the alleged US outrage over our alleged transgressions. I bet he doesn’t mention that other countries involved in the Afghan debacle – including the US – have been dealing with retrospective allegations of war crimes by the usual suspects.

Vicki
Vicki
May 31, 2023 4:49 pm

BTW – the above news item appearing in the Oz.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 4:53 pm

Top Endersays:

May 31, 2023 at 9:28 am

The new Chris Dawson trial is receiving massive coverage in the Oz. Latest headline: Chris Dawson trial: Sex with students evidence – one twin teaching, the other out back

One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…

There have been suggestions that Dawson may have had an accomplice, at least after the murder.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 31, 2023 4:56 pm

Ed Casesays:

May 31, 2023 at 10:09 am

One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…
That would be interesting, since Paul Dawson died a few years ago.

Google says he lives on …

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 5:03 pm

Are the cops paying Groog’s invoices anymore?

Jorge
Jorge
May 31, 2023 5:05 pm

Al Pacino, at 82, about to become a father again with girlfriend, 29.

My godfather.

Robert de Niro blamed his recently born kid’s autism on vaccines.

But there’s a fairly strong link between older dads and autism.

Leave it, boys. Take the cannoli.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 5:10 pm

I see the euro parliament have threatened to ban twitter in Europe as it’s “not targeting a reduction in misinformation.”

They never give up do they!?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 5:10 pm

Time to rack the cue.

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 5:14 pm

But there’s a fairly strong link between older dads and autism.

You need to put down the feminist Kool-Aid.

It’s older mothers. (Which to some extent is colinear/cointegrated with older fathers).

How often was autism in kids with older dads reported before the 1970s?

Did Henry Parke’s children from his second marriage have autism at all? No?

His oldest child was the NSW Chief Architect during WWII.

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 5:22 pm

BBC getting in early:

Ben Roberts Smith: How war hero’s defamation case has rocked Australia

Jorge
Jorge
May 31, 2023 5:22 pm

Feminism, dot ?

How do we know that older men have elevated odds of fathering a child with autism?
Epidemiologists have gathered data on large numbers of families and calculated how often men of different ages have a child with autism. The first rigorous study of this type, published in 2006, drew on medical records of 132,000 Israeli adolescents. It showed that men in their 30s are 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men under 30; men in their 40s have a sixfold increase.

Since then, scientists have conducted similar analyses of data on children born in California, Denmark and Sweden, as well as of an international dataset on 5.7 million children. Nearly all of this research has shown an increased prevalence of autism among the children of older fathers.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 31, 2023 5:25 pm

The traditional Queensland “Bundy and Coke” is out of my price range these days.

XXXX vs Bundy and Coke.
The beverage equivalent of choosing between being mauled by a White Pointer, or a Saltie.

bespoke
bespoke
May 31, 2023 5:30 pm

they’re in no position to lecture others.

Indeed Cassie indeed!

Lysander
Lysander
May 31, 2023 5:34 pm

Absolutely Flannerying in Perth!!!

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 5:36 pm

The first rigorous study of this type, published in 2006, drew on medical records of 132,000 Israeli adolescents. It showed that men in their 30s are 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men under 30; men in their 40s have a sixfold increase.

Now let’s look at the data on mothers and fathers with similarly aged wives.

You have no control variables and no methodology to deal with blocking variables or non-linear dynamics.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 31, 2023 5:41 pm

Andrew Rule and Mark Butler:

The Rolf Harris pile-on shows no sign of slowing down. Memories have obviously started to improve now he’s dead, which is fair enough, given defamation laws that protect reptiles while they are alive.

Latest in the queue of fresh accusers is former British weather presenter Ulrika Jonsson, who reveals that Harris groped her when she was launching her career in her early 20s, some 30 years ago.

The truth is that Harris’s predatory ways were notorious for a long time in “the business”, as the people in it call everything from acting to rock-n-roll, radio, television and theatre.

Insiders at radio 3AW clearly recall the day the late Ernie Sigley did a relentlessly cheery telephone interview with Harris back in the 1990s.

The two old stagers were chockablock full of showbiz bonhomie and banter. How they laughed! At the end, Ernie smiled into the mic and did the compulsory showbiz farewell, complete with “Luv ya, mate” or some such bogus bit of business.

As soon as Harris was off the line, Sigley threw to an ad break, leaned back in his chair, stared at his producer and panel operator, rolled his eyes and grunted one word.

“Paedophile.”

In other words, Harris’s behaviour was an open secret for a long time before the law pinched him in 2013. Which makes you wonder how many people knew the truth about others, such as evil Jimmy Savile in the UK and cunning television producer Gavan Disney in Australia.

Disney never got near the heroically long tally of perverted offences that the spooky Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile did. But there were murmurs about Disney’s creepy ways with teenage work experience boys before he was charged (and acquitted) of sexual assault with a 17-year-old assistant at Ballarat.

This all reminds us of the old-style television producer some people in showbiz and media circles affectionately know as “Dirty Doug” — or was it Dave?

Regardless of his name, he was involved in casting a lot of dramas.

Whether or not a couch was involved in some instances will probably be revealed when the old varmint checks out. A string of female actors will be free to come forward then.

Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 5:43 pm

John Ruddick NSW MLC (LDP) is already doing great work.

Excess deaths in recent years – John Ruddick MLC calls on the govt to investigate

https://youtu.be/-d9v-gyL8Gs

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 5:46 pm

Here’s the other thing.

What’s the relative risk of autism with the age of the father and mother by decade, independently and co-determined?

Noting a huge relative increase in risk alone without control variables or context is meaningless.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 5:46 pm

The traditional Queensland “Bundy and Coke” is out of my price range these days.

And that’s a bad thing?

bespoke
bespoke
May 31, 2023 5:51 pm

Rogersays:
May 31, 2023 at 1:33 pm
I’m just old enough to remember when consumers of pornography were regarded by normal people as perverts. It’s quite a revolutionary change within one lifetime.

You must be so old, Roger. Playboy was mainstream in the seventies.

My oldest brother (may he be restless in hell) was a fan of ribald and hustler.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 31, 2023 5:53 pm

BB

Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Sigley (and others like him) receiving the kind of opprobrium handed out to Cardinal Pell for simply sharing accommodation with Ridsdale, but, like his colleague Paul Bungjourno, being ignorant of Ridsdale’s activities.

Many knew and kept quiet, but they were/are the “right” people, so they are forgiven even without asking. See also Richard Neville.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 5:56 pm

Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?

Possibly. Lot of after the event revision of events. Pretty much par for the course in media, marketing, advertising … . Don’t like it join the church. Or maybe not. As several have said, learn to deal with it. Does not apply to children of course.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 5:58 pm

Gilas

This was Sydney’s West and I was badly outnumbered. Talking back rather than fighting was more productive, and avoided the ever-present cane.
Coming from Northern Italy, I was faced with a novel type of adolescent: a less civilised, more primitive human. Quite the revelation.
These racists were essentially unreconstructed, ignorant cretins who left after Yr 10.

LOL. There appear to be quite a few residing here who refer to themselves as engineers now. One’s claims the title of aeronautical engineer and former astronaut. :-)I had a theory, but I’m not sure if it was embedded in Anglo/Australian culture. A lot of those misfits you refer to operated in gangs, in the sense that they were stronger when they had backup. We kind of see it here with the “piler-onners,” and it’s a form of gang mentality with safety in numbers. As a kid, when I singled them out one-on-one for a beating, they were never that tough.

One other thing: you responded to the toxic fraud by giving reasons why folks of Italian heritage weren’t big heroes fighting wars. I take issue with that, and I’ll explain the reason why I reached the opposite conclusion, or at least that they’re as heroic, etc., as anyone else of European descent. It’s not the first time that a toxic worm from the Strait has made reference to Italians being cowardly. I take the approach that anything that the worm says here has to be assumed to be ignorance or simply lying. There were several reasons I think Italy failed miserably in WWII, and thank God it did because it was a horrible regime. But were they cowardly or just reluctant to fight in a war the populace didn’t believe in? I thought the latter . What do you do when you’re looking for an answer to something like that? I took the approach of looking at differential analysis, and so I looked at ways to see how Italians performed in wars outside of Italy. That would be the US. The US is prolific with stats, and I looked up the numbers. From memory, there were around 1.6 million men of Italian descent in the US military during WW2. The way to judge heroism or cowardliness was to look at the medal count for combat troops which over a decent population count would be reasonably reflective in reaching a conclusion. Those of Italian heritage who gained medals for outperformance were right on average compared to the rest of the crowd.

Basilone would be a good example.

On February 19, 1945, Basilone was killed in action leading an assault off the beaches of Iwo Jima. He was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross, the only enlisted Marine to be honored with both the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor.

Don’t buy into any bullshit from these low-functioning “historicans,” as they’re mostly all freaking useless but also not very bright.
To offer another example, that idiot (Driller) once suggested that the economies of Catholic countries didn’t function well due to the peculiarities of Catholicism. The moron hadn’t thought about Spain, France, Austria, and others. History is a difficult subject to grasp, and a lot of people just aren’t mentally equipped, as you see here.

cohenite
May 31, 2023 5:58 pm
cohenite
May 31, 2023 6:00 pm

FMD head prefect that post was so long I got eye strain reading it. If brevity is the soul of wit that post is a vampire post. Just saying.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 31, 2023 6:01 pm

I have just been watching a German movie and, I swear, they just used The Wilhelm Scream.

What is The Wilhelm Scream?

Well you probably already know. You just don’t know that you know.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 6:02 pm

It’s the difference between knocking off the latest talent on Home and Away and Hey Dad.

Delta A
Delta A
May 31, 2023 6:03 pm

How often was autism in kids with older dads reported before the 1970s?

Frequently, Dot.

From my own observations (which were supported later by various international studies) advanced age of the father was a significant factor in the assessment* of intellectually disabled – and particularly autistic – children in institutions in the 60’s.

This observation continued through to the end of the 90’s, when I worked exclusively with students on the autism spectrum. Of course, there were youngish dads – 30’s to mid 40’s – but in the severely disabled, strictly autistic end of the spectrum, around 45% of the fathers would have been 65 plus.

*Assessment in the 80’s and 90’s was, as I’ve said before, a rigid, lenghty process, with observations, video and reports from all 3 to 5 members on the team. Nowadays, it’s ‘take a number and the nice NDIS lady will be with you soon’.

cohenite
May 31, 2023 6:05 pm
Tom
Tom
May 31, 2023 6:06 pm

As a treat last Friday night, I bought myself two cans of overproof Bundy and Coke. Haven’t had any for years.

I plan to buy a bottle of Bundy with the proceeds of my accumulated IGA frequent-shopper points in the next few weeks.

Bundy is one of only two spirits I love — the other being Chivas Regal. Bundy is one of Australia’s defining liquors. It’s banned in some pubs during live music nights because it turns bogans into animals.

Thankfully, it hasn’t yet been banned for home consumption. A secret pleasure.

bespoke
bespoke
May 31, 2023 6:08 pm

Haven’t seen such as teary ward wall since St Ruth.
Grab a valium and rest, manchild.

P
P
May 31, 2023 6:10 pm

Calvary Hospital takeover laws pass ACT Legislative Assembly
Palliative care hospice Clare Holland House also at risk, with ACT Government claiming staff want to “take palliative care into the future.”
by Marilyn Rodrigues, Updated 5:21 pm 31/05/2023

Notwithstanding the promised legal challenge from Calvary Health, the transition of the hospital to the control of Canberra Health Services is slated to begin almost immediately, and to be completed by the first week of July.

The legislation was passed 14-7, with standing orders again being suspended at the request of ACT Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith so that eight pages of “technical” amendments could be passed.

bespoke
bespoke
May 31, 2023 6:12 pm

word wall

Zipster
Zipster
May 31, 2023 6:20 pm

WHY MOST WOKE PEOPLE ARE WOMEN
Jordan B Peterson

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 6:20 pm

I keep on saying it is feminist Kool Aid.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/link-parental-age-autism-explained/

The link between parental age and autism, explained

(Note the deadshit Vox like article headline).

How does a mother’s age influence the odds of having a child with autism?
Overall, researchers have conducted fewer studies of maternal age and autism, and the results are not as clear-cut as they are for fathers. The effects of maternal age are more difficult to detect in epidemiological studies because women have children over a narrower age range than do men.

Some studies have suggested that a woman’s chance of having a child with autism also increases steadily with age. The number of de novo mutations in egg cells increases with age, although to a lesser degree than it does in sperm. As with men, women who have autism traits may have children late. However, a comprehensive analysis found that for a woman over age 35, the chance of having a child with autism is lower than for younger women.

That study also suggested that women under age 25 are more likely to have a child with autism than older women. The finding echoed that of several other studies that reported that teenage mothers also have increased odds of having a child with autism.

Complete garbage.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 6:20 pm

Shut up Cronkite. It’s as long as the two comments Gilas posted and I replied.

You’re trouble is that you have never been able to stay focused, hence the whining.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 31, 2023 6:22 pm

Incidentally, I would put the Dawson and Epstein cases in the same boat. The girls were teenagers and knew exactly why they were there. We (society) may still criminalise the conduct because of the relative power imbalances between the participants may mean there can never be genuine consent but let’s not pretend this is some newfound morale superiority.

JC
JC
May 31, 2023 6:22 pm

Good work, Sundance. Keep it short and you won’t show that affliction. Two words is all you need. Look’em then copy and paste them for obvious reasons.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 31, 2023 6:23 pm

I plan to buy a bottle of Bundy

Everyone stay away from Tom’s place.

There’ll be punch-ons galore, lubricated by the Bundy Boxing Juice. Walking up the path to Tom’s front door you’ll be greeted with ‘The f*uck YOU looking at?’, and then it’ll be on like Donkey Kong.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 31, 2023 6:23 pm

Psays:
May 31, 2023 at 6:10 pm
Calvary Hospital takeover laws pass ACT Legislative Assembly
Palliative care hospice Clare Holland House also at risk, with ACT Government claiming staff want to “take palliative care into the future.”

The Brave New World of Medically Assisted Dying future?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 31, 2023 6:24 pm

Reading an account of the desert war, in North Africa.

On 21st June, 1942, the South African garrison of Tobruk surrendered to the Axis forces.

Soon after, a party of Australians were on leave in Cairo, sitting around a table in a Cairo bar. A group of South African soldiers, obviously “Just off the desert” walked in. As they neared the head of the table, one of the Aussies stood up.

“Sit down, cobber and take a drink. You look tired. Have you run all the way from Tobruk?”

No – one knows how a monumental bar brawl got started……

Dot
Dot
May 31, 2023 6:26 pm

0.050% autism in children in 1970s and 1980s in America.

1% ‘now’ in 2022 in Australia and America; higher if you use ASD metrics.

A twenty-fold increase since women have been indoctrinated to focus on their careers!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 31, 2023 6:26 pm

Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested

Yes. Yes, he could have.

The ‘lovable larrikin’ Sigley was, however, part of the showbiz class – much adored by Joe and Jane Punter, but in reality governed by self-interest and image over substance.

Much like our political overlords.

  1. And if that were true, the South would have won the civil war, Ford wouldn’t have built the River Rouge…

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