Open Thread – Weekend 5 Aug 2023


The House of Guardaboschi, Gustav Klimt, 1912

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cohenite
August 6, 2023 7:20 pm

BTW, what’s happened to Mark Latham? We haven’t heard from him as a One Nation man recently.

He’s been overseas with his new squeeze. Give the bloke a chance. He has resumed his Thursday interviews with Brent Bultitude at 1.30PM on 2SM.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 7:20 pm

Dogs are great friends Cassie.

I’ve been very critical of Howard here over the last few years I know but maybe he was a good as it gets. I certainly don’t have the confidence and optimism for this country that I had back in say 2005. Still can’t really forgive him for Trumble though.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 7:20 pm

Boycotting is the obvious solution.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 7:24 pm

it takes those beautiful and majestic creatures called canines to put a smile on our faces. They are are our best friends.

Cassie, I have taken to searching out sad videos of abused doggies who then are rescued and become lovely loving dergs with a spring in their four legs and their eyes filled with love and affection. It somehow soothes the soul and repairs optimism to see them well and cared for by humans after all of their maltreatment and trials. Same for kitties too, although they are different in how they express attachment. Occasionally there are other videos of animals being cross-species attached, anything from birdies to lions, or putting on some amazing performances or simply being unbearably cute. It seems to say that as animals we all share something fundamental.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 7:25 pm

MatrixTransform
Aug 6, 2023 7:13 PM

My parents came here and made a life for themselves.

… sounds like one of those “lived-experience” wanks to me

Except millions of others did too, which therefore doesn’t make it just a lived experience, you boneheaded imbecile. A lived experience is basically an anecdote that may not be enough to explain a pattern That comment wouldn’t be described as an anecdote. Look up the word, it would be a new one for you, Blog Warrior.

Tekweni
Tekweni
August 6, 2023 7:27 pm

I 1994 the ANC got into power in SA and we packed up the kids and left. There was no doubt in my mind where the country was going. Family members followed us but half stayed. They were the wealthy ones who felt they had too much to lose. And their wealth is tied up in land. This includes a wine farm, and a number of game ranches as well as sugar, timber and crops. The farm buildings and with the exception of the wine farm in the Cape the other farms are in KwaZulu Natal and have heavy security around the buildings. We were over there last year and there is no way I could live under that continuous stress. It’s just so dangerous. All of these family members would have been able to get into Oz based on the points system when we left. Yet they still stay!

Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 7:33 pm

From the Daily Telegraph……..

Outgoing DPP Shane Drumgold defends his record as Lehrmann lawyer claims he was a “social justice crusader”
Angira Bharadwaj & James Morrow & Ellen Ransley

Bruce Lehrmann’s lawyer labels prosecutor Shane Drumgold a “social justice crusader” who lost his objectivity as the ACT DPP announces he is standing down in the wake of a damning report into his handling of the Brittany Higgins rape trial.

The ACT‘s embattled Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold has quit over damning allegations of misconduct in the rape trial that rocked the nation — as his rival in the case labelled him a “social justice crusader” who lost his objectivity.

Mr Drumgold handed in his resignation after an inquiry into the handling of Brittany Higgins’ rape allegations against fellow Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann — effectively demanded by Mr Drumgold himself — alleged serious misconduct against him including that he withheld key information from the defence and lied to the Supreme Court.

In announcing his departure a defiant Mr Drumgold justified the “less than perfect” conduct with the demands of “intense and sometimes crippling pressure” and said he always acted ”in good faith”.

He said the findings were ”difficult to reconcile” with the trial judge’s “gratitude at the end of the case, for the exemplary way all counsel conducted the trial.”

“Although I accept my conduct was less than perfect, my decisions were all made in good faith, under intense and sometimes crippling pressure, conducted within increasingly unmanageable workloads,” he said in a statement to the Guardian.

“My career has been driven by a fire burning within, lit by an early life spent surrounded by the pain of chronic intergenerational social injustice.

“Unfortunately, I find the fire has been extinguished, and try as I might, I cannot reignite it.”

The findings were leaked to the media prior to formally being released, a move Mr Drumgold said denied him “procedural fairness”.

Among the most serious claims made by the inquiry was a finding that Mr Drumgold attempted to hide the “Moller Report” – a document which detailed police claims of discrepancies in Ms Higgins’ evidence.

Mr Drumgold’s response has been blasted by Mr Lehrmann’s defence lawyer Steve Whybrow who went up against him in the high-profile trial.

“Mr Drumgold’s statement seems to confirm what was blindingly apparent to the defence during the trial…that he saw himself more as a social justice crusader than an independent minister for justice,” he said.

“This apparent “end justifies the means” explanation for his conduct is frankly alarming coming from a DPP, a position which already wields so much opaque and unreviewable power over the lives of people who come into contact with the criminal justice system.”

His former client Mr Lehrmann also backed in the comments.

“This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, it is the very least that should happen,” Mr Lehrmann said.

“The response from the former Director is not acceptable, insufficient and not worth the paper it is written on. The ACT government now needs to show leadership and hold the ODPP to account. If they don‘t, I will.”

Mr Lehrmann has maintained his innocence and the single sexual assault charge was dropped following a botched trial.

Walter Sofronoff KC found Mr Drumgold to have lied to the Supreme Court over a note made about a meeting with presenter Lisa Wilkinson before she made a speech at the Logies in June 2022 – which resulted in the trial being postponed.

The report also found evidence of unethical conduct by Mr Drumgold, including his use of a note concerning a discussion he had with Wilkinson days before her speech.

Mr Sofronoff also found Mr Drumgold had improperly questioned Senator Linda Reynolds, the former boss of Ms Higgins and Mr Lehrmann, on the stand.”

You see, Dumgold’s weasel words are very revealing, they reek far-left sanctimony…….”“My career has been driven by a fire burning within, lit by an early life spent surrounded by the pain of chronic intergenerational social injustice. He’s just admitted that he’s not interested in truth or justice, NO, the only thing that concerns him is the politics, always has been, and that’s what drove him with the Lehrmann allegation. It was a disgrace that he was ever appointed DPP in the first place, but that’s the ACT for you. Dumgold is a f*cking disgrace but so is the ACT town council headed by that mediocrity Andrew Barr.

Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 7:51 pm

“It will get better though.”

I hope so, JC.

Indolent
Indolent
August 6, 2023 7:54 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 8:04 pm

I thought Drumgold’s early life was made miserable by his drug addicted father, who utltimately committed suicide after the very sad death of one of Drumgold’s younger three year old twin brothers.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
August 6, 2023 8:04 pm

Drumgold complaining about being denied procedural fairness is just outrageous. The lack of self awareness is extraordinary.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 8:09 pm

Pressure (from who, exactly?) and unmanageable work loads?

Is that code for they put me in an untenable position by promoting me beyond my capabilities and legal action is called for.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 8:12 pm

All of these family members would have been able to get into Oz based on the points system when we left. Yet they still stay!

Expat South Africans are highly thought of, in the West Australian Wheatbelt. They are prepared to live, where Australians don’t want to live, and they are prepared to do the work Australians don’t want to do – work on farms.

P
P
August 6, 2023 8:15 pm

This is the last comment I’ve been able to view:

JC
Aug 6, 2023 7:14 PM

A big part of the Western world is currently going through a period of massively incompetent leadership. It’s never been so bad. It will get better though.

A nice cheery comment.

Now I wait till 15mins past 8 for the comments from the last hour.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 8:17 pm

When we “had the farm”, three expat South Africans were chatting on the two – way, one day. They thought speaking in Afrikaans provided security….the wages were rubbish, the machinery was crap, the boss was a slavedriver……

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 6, 2023 8:19 pm

Tekweni
Aug 6, 2023 7:27 PM
I 1994 the ANC got into power in SA and we packed up the kids and left. There was no doubt in my mind where the country was going. Family members followed us but half stayed. They were the wealthy ones who felt they had too much to lose.

A joke did the rounds* circa late 80’s that South Africans were the new boat people. Been here a week and bought a boat.

*in Bondi not the wheatbelt.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:27 pm

but so is the ACT town council headed by that mediocrity Andrew Barr

and of course that miserable, mediocre abomination of a city is supposed to look after this nation’s interests ha ha.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 6, 2023 8:35 pm

Clare Armstrong reporting from Garma:

A defiant Anthony Albanese has extended an olive branch to the Coalition on the detail of the Voice declaring Australians have “nothing to fear” and “everything to gain” by backing the referendum.

The Prime Minister said he would seek broad input – including from his political opponents – following a successful referendum, in order to “maximise support” for the legislation establishing the size, function and powers of a Voice advisory body.

In an exclusive interview Mr Albanese hit back at No campaigners’ attempts to paint the Voice as a first step toward a radical version of Indigenous treaty making, slamming the reuse of scare tactics from historical land rights debates.

Unfazed by declining support for the proposal in national polling, the PM said he was confident a short and sharp official campaign would draw Australians “focus” to the question and deliver a Yes result.

“I think people do want to see Indigenous Australians have the same opportunity as non-Indigenous Australians, they do want to Close the Gap,” he said.

“But if we do the same thing, we should expect the same outcomes.

“That’s why Australians have an opportunity to either vote No for the status quo, or Yes to reach for the stars, to go through a better way.”

If passed, the constitutional amendment only mandates the creation of a Voice, while the parliament would be left to approve its final form.

Mr Albanese said a Yes result would be an endorsement for renewed political co-operation to design the body and address Indigenous disadvantage, confirming he would invite Opposition leader Peter Dutton’s input.

“We should want to maximise the support in parliament for the legislation and for that detail to be worked through … certainly I will seek bipartisan support,” he said.

Mr Albanese said while the amendment allowed the parliament to change the Voice over time, he wanted to get it as “right as possible” from the beginning.

After a week of parliament under sustained pressure to clarify his government’s position on progressing toward treaties with Indigenous Australians, Mr Albanese said the questions linking the Voice and a Makarrata Commission were a “political tactic to raise fears with people” about losing land or paying compensation.

“The very idea of Makarrata is a Yolgnu word for coming together after conflict, after struggle,” he said.

“That’s all it means. Coming together, having conversations. It’s a sensible thing.”

Mr Albanese said Australians did not have to look far for examples of bipartisan support on treaties, noting Queensland Liberal National Party leader David Crisafulli this year described treaty as “a genuine opportunity” to improve the lives of Indigenous people.

Tasmanian Liberal Premier Jeremy Rockliff last year said he was “deeply committed” to “delivering a pathway to treaty and truth telling”.

Treaty processes are underway in Queensland, Northern Territory, Victoria and Tasmania, while Mr Albanese pointed out the most “significant” agreement to date was initiated in Western Australia under former Liberal premier Colin Barnett.

Mr Albanese said warnings Australians would “lose their backyards” during the landmark Mabo and Wik cases had proven to be false.

Instead he said agreements struck through Native Title around the country since 1992 had lead to “better outcomes” and employment for Indigenous Australians.

“That’s why it’s no accident that major mining companies that have dealt directly with these issues; BHP, Rio Tinto, Woodside, are all some strong supporters of the Voice and engagement,” he said.

“When you look at the things that are most successful, what they have in common is that Indigenous people have been involved, they’ve been listened to, and what the Voice is about is giving structure to that … (as) a permanent body.”

Mr Albanese was confident the referendum would find momentum in the “final period” before the vote, widely anticipated to take place in mid-October.

“Australians aren’t yet focused on what the question is, what the detail of it is,” he said.

“I’m confident that when they focus on what it is about, which is recognition and listening in order to achieve better results, that they will embrace the opportunity that is there.”

Mr Albanese said the Voice would “lift the nation,” but “not at the expense of anyone”.

“There is no downside here,” he said.

“We are all enriched by lifting up and celebrating Indigenous Australians.”

He insisted the referendum would ultimately be won through everyday conversations at family dinner tables, in offices and sporting clubs in the coming months.

“At the heart of all is a conversation between generations, young Australians talking to their parents and their grandparents about what this moment represents,” he said.

Mr Albanese spent two days at the Garma Festival in Gulkula, north-east Arnhem Land where he met with Indigenous leaders to consult on the referendum campaign.

“It is always easier to run a negative campaign rather than a positive one,” he said.

“But I am still confident. When you look at people who’ve looked at the detail … faith groups, sporting codes, business groups, trade unions, civil society groups, the feedback is very positive.”

He really is a cocksmoker.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 8:37 pm

A joke did the rounds* circa late 80’s that South Africans were the new boat people. Been here a week and bought a boat.

Cite you the expat here, who encountered a would be woke individual, who was wearing a “Spear of the Nation” sweatshirt….

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 6, 2023 8:37 pm

JC
Aug 6, 2023 6:32 PM
In SA the EFF calling for the killing of whitie. The race war is revving up. The problem isn’t the black folk venting towards whitie but the white dickheads revving up the black guys.

It’s a big problem.

In SA they’re killing off the white farmers at a rapid rate. That worked well for darkie in Rhodesia,

Whites need to get the f.. out of Dodge presto.

Immigration ministers of both sides have refused to consider that whites fleeing SA are refugees, without doubt on the “advice” of the Department.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 6, 2023 8:39 pm

Just on the transsexuals monstering women in contact sports. What’s wrong with clubs recruiting men to take them out? I played plenty of sports were individual players were recruited for a specific job. I’d happily have my sons identify as women for a weekend to match a bully transsexual to protect my daughters’ sport. Lola – stay away from the real girls but put a tight tag in the ‘girls’. See how long these ‘girls’ last.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:42 pm

I work with three seffers these days- great guys.

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 8:44 pm

A lived experience is basically an anecdote that may not be enough to explain a pattern

ah huh … no kidding?

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 8:44 pm

I don’t believe a word of it.
You’ve had aboriginal advisors for decades.
You just handed another 6 million over to aboriginal people in East Arnhem, presumably on their advice.

Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 8:45 pm

Bernie Finn plans to enter federal politics. Running as the number one ticket for Family First in Victoria.

Good news.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 8:46 pm

In an exclusive interview Mr Albanese hit back at No campaigners’ attempts to paint the Voice as a first step toward a radical version of Indigenous treaty making, slamming the reuse of scare tactics from historical land rights debates.

Albo, do you, or don’t you, support the fvcking treaty?

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 6, 2023 8:48 pm

I work with three seffers these days- great guys.

Binder starts from 10th, finishes 3rd.
Jackass starts 2nd, finishes 8th.

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 8:50 pm

seffers these days

I work occasionally with a seffer bloke in Brisbane.

the other week he gave me his email and he spelled his surname out … T.h.e.r.o.n

I looked at him and started to ask, “what, like the actress…”

dead-pan he says, “yeah, she’s my auntie”

but he couldn’t keep a straight face for very long

cohenite
August 6, 2023 8:55 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 6, 2023 8:56 pm

P – Same with me. The blog refreshes each hour. Yesterday it was 15 minutes after the hour, today it was 8 minutes after the hour. I don’t know why the difference, maybe it is linked to when I accessed it this morning. But the hourly update is consistent. Eight minutes after the hour, all day today like clockwork.

I can’t see anything until the magical hour elapses. Nothing I try has gotten around it, it’s something in the WordPress software.

Gabor
Gabor
August 6, 2023 9:01 pm

“But I am still confident. When you look at people who’ve looked at the detail … faith groups, sporting codes, business groups, trade unions, civil society groups, the feedback is very positive.”

That is one stupid claim.
He is talking about the opinions of the heads’ of those groups not those of the members’.

How would any of them know the voting intentions of the members?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 9:05 pm
Gabor
Gabor
August 6, 2023 9:05 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Aug 6, 2023 8:56 PM

It took me about 30 minutes to join, timed out constantly.
After that, it works, but extremely sluggish, don’t know what the new server does, but it ain’t working.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:10 pm

while Mr Albanese pointed out the most “significant” agreement to date was initiated in Western Australia under former Liberal premier Colin Barnett.

SEVEN Noongars derailed that agreement for four years, claiming they weren’t properly consulted and demanding THIRTY BILLION dollars in compensation…I’ll bet good money that any attempt at any treaty will result in a similar legal dogfight.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 6, 2023 9:12 pm

The panel that appointed Drumgold should be held to account. Drumgold’s claim he is a victim looking to set justice on the right track is an obvious danger. FMD. The system should absolutely belt him. The idiots of the vic court of Appeal who failed Yr 11 legal studies re Pell didn’t pay any price, so I’m not holding my breath.

Crossie
Crossie
August 6, 2023 9:17 pm

Having said that, the Amphibian’s commercial media career is kaput. She’s a laughing stock in the MSM, as is her tawdry mediocrity of a husband. Ten will pay her out, but I doubt very much, very much indeed, if we’ll ever see her back on Ten, and she certainly won’t be welcome back at Nine.

But there’s always their ABC for the former Dolly editor.

This is from Cassie this morning. The ABC is where Wilkinson will eventually surface. The ABC is now doing it routinely, employing journalists and personalities who have pissed off audiences at other media outlets. For examples see Karvelas, Stan Grant, Laura Tingle. I predict that Lisa will be welcomed by the ABC with open arms and will let fly at everyone on free to air TV.

cohenite
August 6, 2023 9:18 pm

A cornucopia of cute owls with a few specimens thrown in for good measure. Head prefect won’t be able to tell the difference but for discerning viewers discernment will bring its own rewards: cute owls.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 6, 2023 9:24 pm

I’d hold hands with Daniela

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 6, 2023 9:25 pm

My guess is that Wilkinson will end up as either a professor or adjunct professor of media studies at CSU, UTS or WSU. These people have no shame.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 9:27 pm

Cronkite

They’re men. Put on on your specs.

Crossie
Crossie
August 6, 2023 9:31 pm

Helen
Aug 6, 2023 9:23 AM
Re proposed walk back on WA Cultural Heritage Laws

This will only be temporary, until after the vote on the In Voice, then it will be reversed again.

It will be brought back with a vengeance and then repeated in all other states.

Rabz
August 6, 2023 9:34 pm

Dumbgeld handed in his resignation

About bloody time.

A dangerous malevolent imbecile, promoted way beyond his level of incompetence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:36 pm

It will be brought back with a vengeance and then repeated in all other states.

I’ll bet good money on that! Reconciliation? What’s that?

Rabz
August 6, 2023 9:40 pm

Yank lezzoes struggling to hit the side of barn against the Svedettes …

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:40 pm

JC

Aug 6, 2023 6:34 PM

Cassie of Sydney
Aug 6, 2023 6:25 PM

“me procedural fairness”

Ah yes, something he was more than happy to deny Bruce Lehrmann.
cohenite

Whack.

I wonder if Brucey can also sue Drambuie personally?

I mentioned here when the first reporting of Sofronoff came out that there were references to “defamation”, particularly in relation to AFP officers.
I don’t think Sofronoff is a man given to loose application of language, particularly words like “defamation” which have legal import.
I suspect he was saying that the DPP would have certain protections from that sort of litigation for things he says in court in the execution of his role.
But once he steps outside his remit as DPP and starts slagging the reputations of others, he can’t rely upon that protection.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 9:43 pm

But once he steps outside his remit as DPP and starts slagging the reputations of others, he can’t rely upon that protection.

Did Drambuie do any of that ” outside his remit”?

He got the junior to lie which impacted on Brucy.

Rabz
August 6, 2023 9:44 pm

Svedettes! 🙂

pete of perth
pete of perth
August 6, 2023 9:45 pm

Sweden beats the Yanks

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:46 pm

“Give a clap to Janet Albrechtsen at the Oz who, in my opinion, was a major, or the major factor in bringing down this douchebag. She was absolutely tireless.”

You know, if the Oz decided to cobble together the scribblings of Janet and Chris Merritt on this matter into a single book, I’d buy several copies for my lefty friends.
It was meticulous and tireless pursuit of this stinking mess right from the start.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 6, 2023 9:48 pm

That is one stupid claim.
He is talking about the opinions of the heads’ of those groups not those of the members’.

How would any of them know the voting intentions of the members?

But, but, won’t they simply vote just as their leaders tell ’em to?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:49 pm

JC

Aug 6, 2023 9:43 PM

But once he steps outside his remit as DPP and starts slagging the reputations of others, he can’t rely upon that protection.

Did Drambuie do any of that ” outside his remit”?

Yes.
The day he announced that there would be no re-trial because his star witness Britnah was coming apart at the seams, he basically said Lehrmann was guilty.
Sofronoff suggested he had no legal basis to say or imply that and should have STFU.
So, yes, worth a look.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:50 pm

I’d buy several copies for my lefty friends.

You must do these things! I brought sevral copies of Peter O’Brien’s “The Indigenous Voice to Parliament – the No Case.” I have presented said copies to various Lefties, and none of them are speaking to me!

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 9:51 pm

I read some of the a bit redacted enquiry statements of a couple of the more junior prosecutors at the ODPP on the BOI website.
Some chatter about inappropriate comments from afp staff at training sessions.
More astounding was overheard conversations at the local coffee shop.
Oh and apparently when the tapes were handed over to Korn (first defender of Lehrmann) the officer mentioned Higgins texts would make interesting reading.
Lots of discussion about those phone downloads and what the defence should and shouldn’t get and then about flights and accommodation including whether the DPP would pay for Higgins to bring her dog down from Queensland.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 9:53 pm

Didn’t Drumgold call the afp Investigators ‘boofheads’?

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 9:54 pm

… and starts slagging the reputations of others

youse need to listen to JC … this time, he really does know what he’s talking about

I mean when it comes to slagging other people’s reputations, he has years of experience.

… lived experience

look into his wooden eyes while his lips are moving

… you know it’s true

basically JC is like the Michael Carradine of slagging people off.

on second thoughts, no.

forget it

he’s prolly just a wanker

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:57 pm

Anyway, after dinner I cheered her up. We sat and watched all four episodes of Muster Dogs, which is now on Netflix. My mother adores dogs, she grew up with kelpies and cattle dogs. 

That was a top show, although I got a bit cranky at the gentleman farmer from Victoria who had a “difficult” dog.
No, fckwit.
You were given a well bred dog which was smart, but a little bit headstrong. It could have become a top class working dog, but you knew better than the expert training advice you were given.
But, all things considered, a good show.
Dogs are the best people ever.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:58 pm

oops

shit me dacks again

mus be a god oracle in the vicinity

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 6, 2023 9:59 pm

It’s kind of odd.
Luigi the inconceivable references “ Mabo didn’t affect your back yard” while wearing a shirt proclaiming the need for a treaty and reparations.
The spittle flinging vowel abusing dentata immaculata seems unaware without the manufacture of Mabo from whole cloth by the high court none of the rest of this grifters grabbag would be being considered.
He’s standing at the top of the slippery slope and saying it’s a seperate thing altogether.

Lying, stupid, vain, Mong.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:02 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:04 pm
JC
JC
August 6, 2023 10:06 pm

Mole

He can see what he wants, unless there’s massive cheating, the squeal isn’t getting through. They’re finished.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:09 pm

dover0beach

Aug 6, 2023 8:26 PM

Kos Samaras
@KosSamaras
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Further detail on media reports of our Nation Wide poll on the Voice.

44 per cent of respondents said they would vote Yes, with 56 per cent voting No. Forced choice.

One key indicator that the trend for Yes has more downside is his measure of the firmly committed “rusted on” level of each side.
“No” is sitting at a fairly solid 37% of people who say their mind is totally made up.
“Yes” is languishing on 21%.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 6, 2023 10:12 pm

Yank lezzoes struggling to hit the side of barn against the Svedettes …

It’s always a bit hard to tell with the “sport” of Soccer. They should just declare it “mixed gender” and be done with it. No one will notice the difference.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 10:15 pm

The more you think about it, the more this alleged rape saga is one of the most massively absurd events in Australian legal history.

1. The accusation ends up in court despite strong police protestations.
2. The case ends up being dropped after a mistrial
3. The prosecutor ends up being investigated, found to be a dishonest incompetent douchebag and ends up basically fired for acting like a disgraceful moron.
4. The current government hands over $3million dollars to the accuser.

As I said, the west is swarming with massive incompetence.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 6, 2023 10:15 pm

God this is slow.

Did Arky kill the hamsters, or did mOnster eat them?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:21 pm

“But I am still confident. When you look at people who’ve looked at the detail … faith groups, sporting codes, business groups, trade unions, civil society groups, all those people we have threatened to withhold funding from, the feedback is very positive.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 10:22 pm

cohenite at 9.18:

cute owls

Jesus wept. The third one’s both a dwarf and a dude.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 10:24 pm

Dillo

Welcome back.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 6, 2023 10:32 pm

Bombshell: Pfizer Employees Were Given “Special” Batch of Vaccine

Saline.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 10:36 pm

Luigi the inconceivable references “ Mabo didn’t affect your back yard”

Just after the passing of the Mabo judgement, the local police sergeant received a deputation from the local indigenous “Elders.”

“Mabo means we don’t have to obey whitefella’s law, any more.”

His response was along the lines of “Nice try, failed. Shut the door on your way out!”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 6, 2023 10:41 pm

Bombshell: Pfizer Employees Were Given Special Batch of Vaccine
Never forget, never forgive.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 10:46 pm

prolly wanking mongs

this works on apprentices

cant understand why it doesnt work on anyone else

prolly not derivative enough

solipsistic

that should do it

Rabz
August 6, 2023 10:47 pm

The more you think about it, the more this alleged rape saga is one of the most massively absurd events in Australian legal history

JC – this is what happens when “politics” is considered by a society to be something other than a bunch of obnoxious irrelevant vainglorious idiots* screeching interminably at each other about utter inanities.

Suddenly, even their grotty grotesque hangers-on are considered newsworthy by our beloved braindead lamestream meeja.

*Trigger warning: Hideously uglee barking mad slag

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 6, 2023 10:49 pm

It could have become a top class working dog….

I believe it actually did. Unless I’m mistaken the Queensland cattleman (the “lovely dog” guy) took it on as a second dog – and instant success.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 6, 2023 10:50 pm

Yep. Binder 3rd. Jackass 8th.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 6, 2023 10:50 pm

I got in early on Newsom, RK and MB @ 30/1 +.

Joe won’t be saddling up that horse. Strangely enough SB still have him @ $1.33. Newsom is currently 7/1. There’s easy money to be made Cats.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 11:02 pm

Dr Faustus

Aug 6, 2023 10:49 PM

It could have become a top class working dog….

I believe it actually did. Unless I’m mistaken the Queensland cattleman (the “lovely dog” guy) took it on as a second dog – and instant success.

Yes, I think that’s right.
Lucky dog to be on TV or the outcome might have been different.
The original trainer was fckin’ useless.
No consistency with the dog, no reinforcement of behaviours, then, from memory, he tried a last minute cram session.
That rarely works with humans and never works with dogs.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 11:20 pm

There’s a lot of talk around that this country is shit-stained toilet, and/or ‘full of useless 18-35 year olds’ (h/t Razey earlier today).

However, everyday heroes still exist (Newscorp, aka the Hun and Courier-Mail):

The bodies of a father and his five young boys were being uncovered on Sunday night after a devastating fire destroyed one home and badly damaged two others, leaving a close-knit Moreton Bay island community in shock.

The children’s mother, Samantha Stephenson, 28, is understood to have told police her 34-year-old partner Wayne Godinet raced upstairs to rescue their boys, aged between 11 and 3, after a fire broke out in the Russell Island home early on Sunday.

Mr Godinet became trapped upstairs with the children before the second storey collapsed.

And:

The family was well-known to residents, including taxi driver Angela Dowson.

She described the moment Mr Godinet ran back inside the burning house to save his sons, telling their 28-year-old mother, Samantha Stephenson, who had managed to escape, to stay well away from the flames.

“I know he was a hero and he would have done everything in his power to get those kids out, so obviously it was impossible. I would call him superdad’,” Ms Dowson said.

“I have never met a more doting father who just wanted to spend time with his kids.
He would be absolutely buggered after work and he just wanted to play with them.”

Now THAT is a father – nay, THAT is a Dad.

If your kid/s are in danger, you go in with the understanding and knowledge that everyone gets out, or nobody gets out.

Vale, Mr Godinet. Well done, sir.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 11:24 pm

Newspoll out in the Oz on da Voice.
Not as stark as the Redbridge poll earlier today but the trend is bad for Luigi the Unbelievable.
WA and Qld absolutely goneski.
“Yes” would need to reap 80% of undecideds to break-even in Tassie.
Vic is neck and neck.
NSW 45% yes, 42% no and 13% undecided.
SA 48% yes, 42% no and 10% undecideds.
Two things:-
1. This poll was taken over six weeks from 31st May to 15th July. Some of the data is two months old. If the trend is running against Yes, the snapshot today is likely far worse for the Yessers.
2. Redbridge “forced” the undecideds to choose in a second round. This broke heavily towards No. If that was repeated on the Newspoll figures, the Yessers might win SA and that is all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 11:27 pm

q. does a bear shit in the woods?

a. only if a god oracle jumps out from behind a tree

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:37 pm

Chris Mitchell gives Kim Landers of the Green Left Radio (now Half) Hour formerly known as AM a well deserved shove in this week’s column. Along with Macca an instant off for the ALPBC for some time. Along with FourCorners, possibly the worst of the worse.

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 11:37 pm

shit me dacks again

it’s a bit pathetic that you shit yourself so often and then say so here repeatedly

have you ever put much thought into what that says about yourself … in a literal sense?

dunno, but you’d reckon a brain like yours, with the all the power of the cosmos, could at least have unique thought of its own

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 11:41 pm

and KD … you sound like squeaky toy

ya wanker

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:42 pm

Media coverage of Voice polling is a problem. As they say, the trend is your friend. It could be a bloodbath.

Bruce in WA
August 6, 2023 11:43 pm

Re: UFOs

I reckon if there are any, and they’re going past Earth, they’d throttle down, turn off Spotify, wind up the windows and lock the doors, and turn the headlights off … just in case …

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 11:44 pm

now quickly,
save the forum
send the FEDs

… seriously MT is outta control

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 11:45 pm

this shit-hole needs down-ticks

slackster
slackster
August 6, 2023 11:49 pm

Remember Australia 27 years ago?

No – really, go look at your old pictures and any videos you have- you certainly won’t find much online from the big search engines.

Imagine this on tv today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_htLQwSx6Bg

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 11:51 pm

and KD … you sound like squeaky toy

*a squeaky toy*

Try it on with the 18 year old apprentices you send out for skyhooks, bozo. It doesn’t work with people who’ve been around the block.

Guaranteed – and never having met you – you’ve got a stringy Catweazle beard and an expectation of holding court whenever you turn up. Anywhere.

How’s the ‘inside mail’ on the Attwood concentration camp going? The one you ‘knew about’ from ‘being on the inside’?

Describe yourself here as a ‘god oracle’ where people ‘shit their pants when you enter the room’ and expect credibility in a bigger yard with different dogs?

Pfft. Flick that control panel switch, champ. Flick it, because you’re That Bloke.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 12:03 am

How’s the ‘inside mail’ on the Attwood concentration camp going? The one you ‘knew about’ from ‘being on the inside’?

Bwah ha ha ha.
File that with “Furrin troops flying into Tulla in unmarked planes” and that old standby “The Government has ordered xxx,000 body bags.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 12:05 am

How many months have we got left?
You know, given I am dead man walking, I really should keep tabs on it myself.

MatrixTransform
August 7, 2023 12:05 am

the Attwood concentration camp going? The one you ‘knew about’ from ‘being on the inside’?

oh yeah, Attwood?

… is that right?

seems the squeaky toy also has a squeaky memory

recommend a legal eagle like yourself “should” get their facts straight

MatrixTransform
August 7, 2023 12:09 am

gawd you people are full of shit

Robert Sewell
August 7, 2023 1:37 pm

Big Nambas.
Thanks for the Gravatar!

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