Open Thread – Weekend 5 Aug 2023


The House of Guardaboschi, Gustav Klimt, 1912

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Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:54 am

Threaten to sool the AFP onto me, coz you (omg you couldn’t make this up) coz you don’t like hurty words being used on a blog. 🙂

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:57 am

Steve, stop the incitement.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:58 am

Update your information you tool, I’m Salvatore.
Serious question, how stupid are you?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 6, 2023 1:09 am

At the Salvatore Dali museum in Figueres, Spain, on an outing from our cruise liner. It’s an old theatre the man himself – who lived here originally and in his final years – spent years making into an icon to how own works and selected bits of his life. Now surrounded of course by shops featuring melting clocks and so on.

The museum features several hundred works of Dali, most of them confirming a lot of his stuff was merely odd, but occasionally absolutely brilliant. The centrepiece is a 1940s roaster with three mannequins inside, all in an advanced stage of decomposition. It rains periodically inside the car.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 1:25 am

Cash!

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Dana Point Harbor 4

Gabor
Gabor
August 6, 2023 1:44 am

Steve trickler
Aug 6, 2023 1:25 AM

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Dana Point Harbor 4

Steve, I’m probably not the target audience for these vids and only glimpsed at them once.
But I have to ask you, honestly, is there a point to it, and if there is, what is it?
A dog is wandering about, so what?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 1:49 am

Simple, Gabor.

The dog is magnificent. 2 inches shy of the worlds tallest dog.

John H.
John H.
August 6, 2023 3:20 am

Common blood thinner may double as cancer therapy

It is a fascinating idea but I’m doubtful because vitamin K is produced throughout the body. The proposed killing mechanism, ferroptosis, involves reactive oxygen species being generated by free iron, that damages the fats in the various membranes, which can kill cells either through programmed cell death or membrane lysis, leading to the cell dying. Cell membrane lysis which involves the cell wall being ruptured kills cells very quickly.

In the past week I’ve read 3 surprising new ways to think about tackling cancer. IMHO the best one was that involving a specific attack on cancer cell nuclei. Only took the team 20 years to find the right way to go about it and in phase 1 trials. Best of luck to all of them.

Tom
Tom
August 6, 2023 4:00 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 6, 2023 5:07 am

Thanks Tom. I love WIP.

Pogria
Pogria
August 6, 2023 6:07 am

Thanks Tom.

Klimt Eastwood! Outstanding!

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 6:27 am

Tom!

Wisenheimer for me.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 6:30 am

A song for the lost upticks

😀

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 6:48 am

And just to make it a run of three…

Another amusing meme to have with your coffee.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 6:50 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 7:18 am

Thanks Tom, WIP full of sniggers & a few lol’s.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 7:20 am

I still can’t believe how the NYT re-wrote history about the Biden family business.
Brazen.

Gilas
Gilas
August 6, 2023 7:31 am

Rabz
Aug 5, 2023 8:50 PM

which is why I posted it at 7:54pm.

You were hoping to post something else?

Ooops… It was a YT side suggestion while I watched another clip.

Mysteries of the algorithm…

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 6, 2023 7:33 am

Piers Akerman:

The ACT’s toy town government’s ineptitude knows no bounds. Despite the wall-to-wall coverage of the damning findings of the Sofronoff inquiry into the ACT’s failed prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins, ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr has refused to release the document until next week.

The inquiry was sparked after ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold made a series of damaging allegations about the police’s conduct during their investigation of the alleged rape of Ms Higgins in Parliament House in 2019. As has been widely remarked, Drumgold kicked an extraordinary own goal when he demanded an inquiry, which has found that he committed such egregious errors in law that he will have to leave the profession.

Now the ACT government is making itself looking even more foolish by kicking own goals of its own with, firstly, the refusal to release the full report and, secondly, a statement from the local police chief Neil Gaughan saying he was “shocked and distressed” about the impact of the leaking “on the ACT criminal justice system and the Canberra community’s confidence in it”.

If the residents of the ACT weren’t so woke, they’d be shocked and distressed that their legislature, with Greens MLA Shane Rattenbury as Attorney-General, had appointed Drumgold to the position of DPP in the first instance.

Rattenbury appointed Drumgold DPP on January 1, 2019 and made him Senior Counsel 10 months later. The only other territorial DPP, Lloyd Babb, had been a Senior Counsel for four years before he was appointed NSW DPP. He had been an SC for 15 years before being appointed DPP in the NT.

Police chief Gaughan might consider that the inquiry was called by Chief Minister Barr on December 21, following the letter Drumgold sent Gaughan on November 1 outlining his concerns over what Sofronoff called “scandalous allegations” about police conduct.

The report, which – pay attention here police chief Gaughan – says each allegation Drumgold made against the police was “exposed as baseless”.

Inquiry chairman Walter Sofronoff KC, a former president of the Queensland Court of Appeal and Queensland solicitor-general, has not only exposed Drumgold’s many failings but he has also exposed the lightweight nature of the ACT’s administration.

Victims of Crime Commissioner Heidi Yates, who acted as an intermediary for Higgins and police and whose multiple appearances walking Higgins to court and standing with her at media conferences sparked ongoing controversy, was cleared of any wrongdoing by Sofronoff but her dual roles as an advocate and a carer clearly were cause for confusion.

Higgins was a complainant when Yates appeared with her. No crime had been proven and no crime has yet been proven though many in the media were quick to act as if it had.

Putting Higgins on the National Press Club stage with Grace Tame, when in her case a man had been convicted and sentenced to jail, was an egregious error for which the woke NPC board must apologise and ensure never happens again.

The presumption of innocence is a mystery within the ACT, as the actions of senators Penny Wong, Katy Gallagher and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese demonstrated.

Media figure Lisa Wilkinson was also a victim of one of Drumgold’s many attempts to interfere with the course of justice and Sofronoff found the DPP “knowingly lied” in court over the making of notes of his purported warning to Wilkinson about her Logies speech.

The question now is whether the ACT will charge Drumgold with perverting the course of justice and if those successfully prosecuted by the DPP will appeal their convictions.

As former NSW judge Anthony Whealy said, it would be traumatising, particularly for sexual assault victims, to have Drumgold’s cases rehashed in the courts “but nevertheless it has to be done because if standards in the ACT have fallen this far then I think a review of past cases, at least where he’s been involved, is necessary”.

This will be a real test for the ACT government which has time and again shown itself to be little more than a self-important local council and should be regarded as such.

Walter Sofronoff has shone a much-needed light on its failures.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 7:40 am

Media figure Lisa Wilkinson was also a victim of one of Drumgold’s many attempts to interfere with the course of justice and Sofronoff found the DPP “knowingly lied” in court over the making of notes of his purported warning to Wilkinson about her Logies speech.

Sorry Piers.

Not buying that for one second.

If she was in doubt, she shouldn’t have spoken. No need to pass it by Drumgold in the first place. She knew what she was doing.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 7:43 am

Have to laugh. A raddled old campaigner like Wilkinson playing the doe-eyed innocent?

Pull the other one. It plays Jingle Bells.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 7:46 am
Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 7:50 am

I miss upticks.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 6, 2023 7:52 am

Depressingly true.

Progressives never seem to have even a nanosecond’s reluctance about what their actions will do to the country’s spirit of unity and sense of calm. They don’t care one whit about societal harmony. Indeed, sowing racial/demographic division is part and parcel to the progressives’ overall goal of cementing ever-greater political power and control for themselves.

Yet even as the progressives treat conservatives as their personal punching bags, conservatives refuse to fight back. They just foolishly absorb the punishment, uttering inanities about “taking the high road” and “maintaining a civil discourse” while they fall farther and farther behind in the race to win the persuadable voting bloc.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/conservatives_cant_play_political_hardball.html

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 6, 2023 7:55 am

Rat & Bury.
Sounds like a fit name for an Ealing farce.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 6, 2023 7:56 am

raddled

uptick

Real Deal
Real Deal
August 6, 2023 7:57 am

Have to laugh. A raddled old campaigner like Wilkinson playing the doe-eyed innocent?

Pull the other one. It plays Jingle Bells.

Looking for the uptick one on that, Calli. Oh well. A metaphorical uptick from me.

Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 8:02 am

Sorry Piers.

Not buying that for one second.

If she was in doubt, she shouldn’t have spoken. No need to pass it by Drumgold in the first place. She knew what she was doing.”

Correct. She knew, she knew. And anyone else, particularly a well known “conservative”, would have been charged after making a similar Logie speech.

Having said that, the Amphibian’s commercial media career is kaput. She’s a laughing stock in the MSM, as is her tawdry mediocrity of a husband. Ten will pay her out, but I doubt very much, very much indeed, if we’ll ever see her back on Ten, and she certainly won’t be welcome back at Nine.

But there’s always their ABC for the former Dolly editor.

Further to Mr and Mrs Amphibian, in the absence of any media platforms, and craving the media attention they are both are so addicted to, should join their best mate, Mike Motor Mouth Carlton (the same Mike Carlton who likes to scream anti-Semitic profanities at Jews and wants to see female conservatives strangled), and spend their free time walking naked with Carlton on Avalon Beach. I know, I know, what a very sorry and ugly sight that would be.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 8:03 am

I felt that. Nothing major … I got up to have a squiz and yep, I am no longer a EQ virgin.

Origin (UTC): 05/08/2023 21:34:43 Epicentral Time: 06/08/2023 05:34:43
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Magnitude: 5.6 (ML) Depth: 5 km

Live Earthquakes — past 48hrs up to current

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:13 am

spend their free time walking naked with Carlton

And that Day fast approacheth…when men will long for blindness, and it cometh not…

P
P
August 6, 2023 8:13 am

Sunday, Aug. 6, is the Feast of the Transfiguration

Gospel Acclamation – Mt 17:5
This is my Son, my beloved, in whom is all my delight:
listen to him.

This feast is ultimately about vision. The Lord brought Peter, James and John up a high mountain in order that they might come to see.

May God grant us vision always.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:18 am

Ahahaha!

Snap P!

And snappy it was.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:20 am

Where is that from Calli? Sounds like Isiah to me.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:22 am

“Feast of the Transfiguration”.

Great art work.
That up & coming Raphael chap does great work.
Hope his career takes off.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:24 am

Twas from the Book of Calli, Chapter 3, v5.

It follows an apocalyptic vision wherein self serving journalists wreck havoc on we mere mortals by torturing truth, logic and the very fabric of the rules of argument.

Fear not. They get their comeuppance.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:25 am

I spent more time looking at the Raphael catalogue in the Vatican museum than I did in the Sistine Chapel.
That was 15 years ago.
I wonder if he’s released more work.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 6, 2023 8:29 am

Blackout Bowen: Net Zero Nung Head –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO3n7CXzFMc

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:31 am

But seriously, I wonder what Rome is like these days.
Worth going back for a look-see?
Did it twice in in the noughties, I thought I got an appreciation of the place.
But I enjoyed places like Assisi & Siena more.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 6, 2023 8:33 am

Further to Mr and Mrs Amphibian,

More like – Mr and Mrs Reptilian.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:33 am

Gotcha lol. Since I was a kid I have thought it’s very odd that we make these meja parasites millionaires. BIRM.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 6, 2023 8:34 am

The Oz today is suggesting the sudden dumping of the WA Aboriginal Heritage laws is in response to pressure from Canberra due to it impacting adversely on support for the voice.

Interesting if true…

I doubt they will ever hold a voice referendum, but the obvious and growing public rejection of the idea seems to be making its mark among our wise rulers.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:36 am

Visited Rome in 2012 and it was a bit dirty but otherwise very very good. Lived up to expectations in every way. Walking around the forum was really something.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:39 am

The first time I did Florence I was with a group of friends & stayed in the guts of the place.
Did not like it all that much.
The next time I was in Florence, I was travelling by myself and kind of based myself in Siena & did a couple of day trips to Florence.
I thought the second time was far more enjoyable.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:44 am

I’m back in Rome in June next year. Will have a 17 year break. It will be interesting to see if anything has changed. Last time there were fewer gypsies and more africans – the only change I really noticed.

Hoping to go out to Hadrian’s Villa this time. Definitely revisiting the Vatican.

The first time was in September 2001. The Sistine Chapel was virtually empty, so I got to have a really good look. Second time they’d done a stack more restoration/cleaning, worth jostling the crowds to see the brilliant colours bursting from the shroud of grease and soot. A remarkable sight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 8:47 am

John H in the wee hours.

In the past week I’ve read 3 surprising new ways to think about tackling cancer. IMHO the best one was that involving a specific attack on cancer cell nuclei. Only took the team 20 years to find the right way to go about it and in phase 1 trials. Best of luck to all of them.

If they do get there they’ll still have to seek approval from our resident Born-Again Naturopath.

miltonf
miltonf
August 6, 2023 8:47 am

The Pantheon is my favourite.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:47 am

I’m back in Rome in June next year.

I think that’s why I didn’t enjoy Italy the first time I was there.
Too hot for back packing & walking.
The next time was in April & the weather was far more agreeable.
And the accomodation was a little better.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:49 am

The first time I was there was in June.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 6, 2023 8:49 am

Visited Rome in 2012 and it was a bit dirty but otherwise very very good. Lived up to expectations in every way. Walking around the forum was really something.

Snap – I did the same in 2012, taking my daughter on a 1:1 Euroholiday. Rome was warm and everyone was friendly, even the scammers. Paris on the other hand 🙁 Sadly, even then, Rome was over run with African ‘irregular businessmen’ trying to sell you sunglasses. which changed the culture of the place somewhat.

And I learned something – you need to be flexible when travelling with teenage girls – I *thought* the main attractions of Rome were the traditional ones – the colloseum etc, but I was wrong – the main attractions were its many shoe and handbag shops, and our itinerary had to be changed to match., and extra luggage capacity bought.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:50 am

First time in Florence I stayed in a horrible little pensione in the heart, just down from the cathedral. The shower was basically over the loo, apart from other plumbing horrors.

Next time, we stayed at the lovely Hotel David, on the other side of the Arno, just across from Santa Croce. What a difference! The owner, a very hospitable chap, had happy hour that lasted well into the evening, drinks and snacks on the house. I think he just liked people and good cheer.

They’ve since done a renno, I believe, but it was a good base. It also had parking on site, something rare as hen’s teeth in Florence.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 8:54 am

Noel Pearson tells Garma the Voice will cut wasteful spending.

Apparently they have a stand up comedy night.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 8:55 am

The shower was basically over the loo, apart from other plumbing horrors.

Sounds like my first trip to Florence.
When I stayed in Siena a few years later, for the same price, I got a place with a tub !

Razey
Razey
August 6, 2023 8:55 am

Sancho Panzer
Aug 6, 2023 8:47 AM
John H in the wee hours.

In the past week I’ve read 3 surprising new ways to think about tackling cancer. IMHO the best one was that involving a specific attack on cancer cell nuclei. Only took the team 20 years to find the right way to go about it and in phase 1 trials. Best of luck to all of them.

If they do get there they’ll still have to seek approval from our resident Born-Again Naturopath.

Armstrong’s DOS AI 1986 supercomputer has already cured cancer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 8:56 am

From the Hun.

RedBridge poll finds majority intend to vote No to Indigenous Voice To Parliament

An exclusive new poll has found a majority of people in every state and territory intend to vote No on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 8:56 am

Ha! My first go of Rome was with teenage girls too. It was all about shopping for them.

I freaked out when one of them wandered off near Termini, little bugger – promised her mother I’d keep an eye on her. Finally found her down the street bargaining with a street vendor. Typically, didn’t know whether to give her a clip over the ears or shower her with hugs and kisses such was my relief.

Now I just holiday with my trusty manservant. Much simpler.

duncanm
duncanm
August 6, 2023 8:59 am

Is the delaying of the Sofronoff report hoping for some bad light to be cast on Mr Lehrmann by certain other proceedings?

Then they can release in the fog of ‘told you so’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:02 am

Having said that, the Amphibian’s commercial media career is kaput. She’s a laughing stock in the MSM, as is her tawdry mediocrity of a husband. Ten will pay her out, but I doubt very much, very much indeed, if we’ll ever see her back on Ten, and she certainly won’t be welcome back at Nine.

They already are “paying her out”.
She is sitting in a window seat waiting for her contract to expire, at which point Ten will say “Yeah, nah” to the renewal option.
Burnt bridges at Nein.
Seven ran a not very complimentary story on the Britnah mai-tai and corn chips tapes. Not something you would do if you were keen to sign her up.
ABC/SBS? Nah. Still has the Dolly/Morning TV lack of gravitas.
Maybe she could hit the tanning solution and do the weather on NITV?

MatrixTransform
August 6, 2023 9:02 am

I’m only gonna sit here and wait for the AFP in my jim-jams until 11:00

cant waste the whole Sunday

I got things to see and people to do

Crossie
Crossie
August 6, 2023 9:03 am

Sorry Piers.

Not buying that for one second.

If she was in doubt, she shouldn’t have spoken. No need to pass it by Drumgold in the first place. She knew what she was doing.

Calli, I made this observation before that Wilkinson was contracted to Channel 10 and should have cleared this first with their lawyers. If not why not? This sort of behaviour would be grounds for dismissal.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 9:05 am

Is the delaying of the Sofronoff report hoping for some bad light to be cast on Mr Lehrmann by certain other proceedings?

You’re talking about the QLD justice system.

I don’t think they can stall that long.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 9:06 am

Just be thankful they didn’t don the black rag on top of the horsehair, Rabz, you impertinent little upstart, and despatch you to the Tower.

From the bench to the holding cells is always a danger for the self-represented. As one of our clients found out on a separate matter. I have never heard of it happening to an expert witness but it sounds like a good idea.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:07 am

miltonf

Aug 6, 2023 8:47 AM

The Pantheon is my favourite.

Mecca if you are a concreter.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 6, 2023 9:07 am

The pages are refreshing as if they got a rocket up ‘em!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 6, 2023 9:08 am

Am I the only Cat who stayed in backpackers’ dorms, giving my 1000-lire notes the privacy of a steel-lined pocket in the hope they might reproduce?

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 6, 2023 9:09 am

https://twitter.com/SenatorAntic/status/1687294055829688321

Senator Antic also holding Big Vaxxes feet to the fire.

For those unaware, almost uniquely amongst our politicians, Alex Antic, Malcolm Roberts and Gerrard Rennick have been dogged on this topic all along. For his trouble, Rennick has been dumped from the Senate ticket by the SFLs.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 6, 2023 9:10 am

Noel Pearson tells Garma the Voice will cut wasteful spending.

I don’t suppose, once again, they have bothered to give the least indication of how this will happen.

sfw
sfw
August 6, 2023 9:11 am

flyingduk, I found myself in Athens in 2006, even back then the place was full of Africans flogging cheap crap. I liked the place but was wary where I walked alone, especially when it got dark.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 9:13 am

Mother Lode
Aug 6, 2023 9:07 AM
The pages are refreshing as if they got a rocket up ‘em!

Nitromethane.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 6, 2023 9:15 am

I doubt they will ever hold a voice referendum, but the obvious and growing public rejection of the idea seems to be making its mark among our wise rulers.

The one beneficial outcome of the Voice is that it makes the political totem pole crystal clear.

At the topmost top is political careerism – never moves. Very near the base is the Voteherd. The bits in between vary depending on the breeze.

Sometimes the updraft from the base has effect.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 6, 2023 9:15 am

The shower was basically over the loo, apart from other plumbing horrors.

Ah! so thats where they got the idea from for the Canberra jail…. just add in a 2″ mattress over a concrete bed and a single security camera to watch you using either the loo or the shower and its the same.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:15 am

From the bench to the holding cells is always a danger for the self-represented. 

I lied.
I do attend the courts occasionally for … stuff.
Sitting in on some of the self-represented bail hearings provides moments of tragic pathos and, simultaneously, great hilarity.
“You’ve had the weekend in the cells and that is the best you could come up with.”
“Yeah, nah. You were going OK, but then you totally Drumgolded it when you admitted you were driving the stolen car”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 9:15 am

was full of Africans flogging cheap crap.

In Berlin an African sold me what he assured me was a genuine sable fur cap for 20 Euros.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:18 am

Mother Lode

Aug 6, 2023 9:10 AM

Noel Pearson tells Garma the Voice will cut wasteful spending.

I don’t suppose, once again, they have bothered to give the least indication of how this will happen.

“Wasteful spending” = “someone else is getting my cut”.

Vicki
Vicki
August 6, 2023 9:18 am

My best trip to Rome was about 15 years ago. Husband decided to go on a motorbike safari in NSW with a pack of BMW GS enthusiasts. I thought -great, this is the time for me to be able to wander for hours in Roman ruins. And so I did. Saw the excavated ruins of Pompey’s Theatre which had just been located when I was last in Rome. Saw the Ara Pacis of Augustus which was being restored and covered up in another visit. And wandered for hours down in Pompeii & Herculaneum. Took ferry to Capri & bus down to Amalfi. Climbed Vesuvius. What a trip . Only downside was some bedbugs in – unbelievably – a reputable hotel!

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 9:19 am

I don’t suppose, once again, they have bothered to give the least indication of how this will happen.

Clearly the Yes crowd have changed tack in response to polling. The instructions have gone out – cut the divisive rhetoric and pretend to address No voters’ concerns. After all, “once we win we can do what we like.”

Helen
Helen
August 6, 2023 9:23 am

Re proposed walk back on WA Cultural Heritage Laws

This will only be temporary, until after the vote on the In Voice, then it will be reversed again.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 9:23 am

If there is “wasteful spending” why does it need the voice to pass for it to be cut?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 9:24 am

Magistrates Court on a Monday morning is great entertainment.

Hugh
Hugh
August 6, 2023 9:24 am

flyingduk

Senator Antic also holding Big Vaxxes feet to the fire.

Excellent work.

Vicki
Vicki
August 6, 2023 9:24 am

Oh & bought daughter fake Pravda briefcase – a fabulous fake which she promptly discarded!

One of the most amazing continuous trips home – train from Pompei Antica to Naples – train to Rome – train to Leonardo da Vinci airport – flight to London – change aircraft to Hong Kong – onflight to Sydney – picked up at airport by husband & driven 3 hours to (then) South Coast beach house. Longest continuous trip I think I have ever done.

Razey
Razey
August 6, 2023 9:25 am

If there is “wasteful spending” why does it need the voice to pass for it to be cut?

We live in a Post Modern, Post Logic world.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:25 am

This will only be temporary, until after the vote on the In Voice, then it will be reversed again.

Nasty, cruel and suspicious minds, like mine, are tipping such a reversal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 9:25 am

Re proposed walk back on WA Cultural Heritage Laws

Roger Cook is no State Daddy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 9:28 am

I wonder what part of the $30bn pa spending the government says isn’t wasted?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:29 am

Aboriginal Heritage Act backflip: Attorney-General John Quigley’s review of act behind change
Joe SpagnoloThe West Australian
Sun, 6 August 2023 2:00AM
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The backflip on WA’s new controversial heritage laws came after a review by the Attorney-General John Quigley who received advice from the Solicitor-General, it can be revealed.

It’s understood Mr Quigley and S-G Joshua Thomson spoke in recent weeks, where it was discovered one option available was to repeal the new laws and revert back to the 1972 Act, but add new amendments.

A final decision was made after further discussion with Premier Roger Cook and Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti. A decision to scrap the new Aboriginal heritage laws is expected to be taken to Cabinet this week, paving the way for WA to go back to the old system.

The Sunday Times understands Premier Roger Cook will take to Cabinet on Monday a plan to go back to the future — reverting back to 1972 laws after being unable to convince the public the new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021 was workable.

Labor Caucus is expected to be briefed on the plan on Tuesday morning, after which the Government will likely introduce legislation into the WA Parliament that afternoon to ensure the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 1972 once again comes into force.

It’s understood the 1972 Act will also include some changes, which will also go before Cabinet on Monday. Crucially, the 1972 laws contain an “ignorance” defence — which means landholders cannot be prosecuted for damaging Aboriginal heritage when they genuinely did not know it was present.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:32 am

H B Bear

Aug 6, 2023 9:24 AM

Magistrates Court on a Monday morning is great entertainment.

Yes.
My favourites are the self represented bail hearings with someone who has been nabbed on Friday night and who really, really needs to see his dealer soon.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 9:33 am

Communist academics pushing to turn what remains of Brisbane’s leafy inner suburbs over to medium rise public housing dystopias:

“To make sure housing is affordable, the state has to build it” says QUT Professor of Urban Planning Dr Mark Limb.

“We are going to need to embrace this kind of living going forwards because our current ways are not sustainable” says his colleague Dr. Dorina Pojani, who describes Australians’ fear of high density housing as “pathological”.

Back yards are evil, apparently.

Bet Dr. Limb has one.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 6, 2023 9:35 am

A soundtrack for Elizabeth when dancing.

Bee Gees – Staying Alive (Moreno J Remix)

Jorge
Jorge
August 6, 2023 9:35 am

On Rome: first night there, just arrived, unpacked, hit the streets and wandered around for a few hours just wanting to enjoy it with no idea of where we were. At one point I decided to head back to hotel. It must have been around 8 pm fairly dark. Turned a corner and there was the Pantheon. They were closing but I wandered in and always remember the dome and the raindrops shining momentarily in the light as they fell through it into the almost deserted space beneath.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:35 am

H B Bear

Aug 6, 2023 9:28 AM

I wonder what part of the $30bn pa spending the government says isn’t wasted?

That would make for a great Q&A episode.
Ask Noel Trilby what the waste is, then turn to Luigi the Unbelievable and ask what he is going to do about it.
Because I think “Canbra bureaucracy” would be opening the batting.

Vicki
Vicki
August 6, 2023 9:37 am

Very evocative, Jorge. I can see the Pantheon now in my head. Great building.

Razey
Razey
August 6, 2023 9:38 am

Dr. Limb Dick.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 9:38 am

Oh & bought daughter fake Pravda briefcase – a fabulous fake which she promptly discarded!

No wonder, if that was the label on it! 🙂

On your loooong transit – Aussies are the Crocodile Dundees of travel – call that a long flight?

Tom
Tom
August 6, 2023 9:42 am

After all, “once we win we can do what we like.”

The polling is telling us enough people out in the suburbs have woken up to the Voice’s trojan horse: changing the Constitution will enshrine radical activism in executive government. It’s an old Trokskyist’s wet dream.

Elbow is finding out the hard way that Australians hate radicalism in their federal government — and the Voice is an attempt by radicals to hoodwink the public.

PS: the only way Elbow got to be PM was because of the incompetence of the Stupid Frigging Liberals, whose primary vote in May 2022 was even lower that Labor’s record low primary vote.

Makka
Makka
August 6, 2023 9:47 am

says his colleague Dr. Dorina Pojani, who describes Australians’ fear of high density housing as “pathological”.

Yes. Many generations of forging successful family living standards in Australia should be totally ignored , in favour of listening to a globalist, feminist activist blow in from Albania;

” I approach my work from a feminist perspective, considering the role of gender in the city. My academic journey has been international in nature, as I pursued graduate studies in the United States and Belgium, in addition to my home country of Albania.”

“and worked as a consultant for various United Nations agencies including the UNDP, UNESCAP, and UN Habitat.”

“Prior to joining academia, I worked in urban design and planning in California.”

Cassie of Sydney
August 6, 2023 9:49 am

“Seven ran a not very complimentary story on the Britnah mai-tai and corn chips tapes. Not something you would do if you were keen to sign her up.”

Seven wouldn’t touch the Amphibian with a barge pole. She stinks, and I reckon they regard her as low grade and toxic. Only last week Natalie Barr smacked down Chubby Maiden when Maiden appeared on Sunrise and said as follows, here’s the exchange…

Tubby Maiden….’We should also add that that is a fair bit of vindication for Lisa Wilkinson in this as well.”

Tubby Maiden….“She was accused of all sorts of things and (that) she was given a very clear warning from Shane Drumgold not to give that Logies speech. Walter Sofronoff said she never was (given that warning).”

However, Natalie Barr responded: ‘He also said that as a senior broadcaster she probably should have known (better).’

Nicely said Ms Barr.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 9:49 am

Victorian MHR Will Fowles has resigned from the ALP over an alleged assault in the Parliamentary bar on Thursday.
Much talk of “safe workplaces”.
I am betting that the alleged victim was a bartender who applied the RSA rules.
This is the same Will Fowles who kicked in the door of a Canbra hotel room a couple of years ago.
Not resigning from Parliament though.
And apparently Moira Deeming is unfit to serve.

shatterzzz
August 6, 2023 9:50 am

I doubt they will ever hold a voice referendum, but the obvious and growing public rejection of the idea seems to be making its mark among our wise rulers.

The problem then becomes never -ending, bit like the Nickerless saga, no vote (pun intended!) ensures they (251s & hangers-on) can whinge & whine forever plus the $39billion will keep on rising ..
Gotta luv the Liars pardy .. they dragged the p***-weak Lib operation into endless NDIS funding and, now, 251 sit-down money will accelerate …….

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 6, 2023 9:50 am

Latest polling shows No campaign ahead and even VIC is 55-45 in favour of No.

Interesting that Yes campaigners openly saying WA Heritage laws were hurting the campaign and happy will be cancelled. Can’t let the reality on the ground affect a good misinformation campaign.

However don’t let up in advising family and friends to Vote no as the mother of all propaganda campaigns now in full swing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 6, 2023 9:51 am

Calli

On your loooong transit – Aussies are the Crocodile Dundees of travel – call that a long flight?

Try Ottawa to Thiefrow, long layover there, London to Singapore, a couple of hours there, Singapore to Sydney, bus to Canberra, taxi to home. I still have no real idea how long we were on the move.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 9:51 am

The SloMo factor in Albo’s win looms large. Oppositions don’t win government, governments lose government. See also: Victoriastan.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 6, 2023 9:53 am

reverting back to 1972 laws after being unable to convince the public the new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021 was workable.

The public are such a bunch of rubes, utterly impervious to the wisdom of governments.

Question is, does Crook hold that the law was working as intended (and therefore all the trouble that occurred was as it was meant to be), or were they not intended and the fault of a poorly thought out and written law?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 9:54 am

6th August – Anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

bons
bons
August 6, 2023 9:59 am

Billie Blackouts was being tongue bathed on ABC last night.
I didn’t see it of course, but I noticed when walking past.
An anchor of our marriage revolves upon my leaving then room whenever Madam chooses to watch ABC or SBS, and under no circumstances will either be on during meal times.
Oh, and Gardening Australian is also banned.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 10:00 am

Many generations of forging successful family living standards in Australia should be totally ignored , in favour of listening to a globalist, feminist activist blow in from Albania

And listen to her they will.

State Labor governments will have no qualms about overruling local councils of a conservative bent to make sure these developments happen. Just ask the good burgesses of Toowoomba, who’ve just been advised that a multi-storey public housing block will be plonked in the CBD of their fair city.

Megan
Megan
August 6, 2023 10:01 am

Attn: Robert Sewell!

haven’t gotten your local PO address to send it to.
Bob…

I did send it to Dover last week. I’ve had some serious reliability issues with our new 4G Broadband, but only on one particular, fuss budget device. I’ve just had a look at my email and when I pressed send it must have been at that precise moment the device and its connection to the router once more parted company leaving said missive languishing in my drafts folder.

I shall resend from a less discerning laptop shortly. I have discovered, however, that sending things post restante to my local PO won’t work as I have to provide photo ID to collect, meaning you need to use my real name anyway.

I am comfortable with Dover passing on my actual name and address. The various Cats I’ve caught up with in real life have all come across as relatively normal citizens (hahahaha) despite the ir various rants in the forums. In fact, I haven’t met any that I didn’t like on sight.

Still want to go ahead?

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:01 am

Wow.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8297336/majority-intend-to-vote-against-the-voice-poll-shows/

RedBridge contacted more than a thousand voters and asked them if they would vote yes or no, if they were undecided or if they wanted to opt out of the survey.

On a jurisdiction basis the no vote was ahead in NSW at 56 per cent against 44 per cent for yes, 55 per cent against 45 per cent in Victoria, 63 per cent against 37 per cent in Queensland, and 54 per cent against 46 per cent in other states and territories, the poll published on Sunday found.

The only income group where the yes vote was ahead of no was households earning more than $200,000 a year, with 51 per cent supporting the voice.

Younger voters were more in favour of the voice, with 63 per cent of those aged 18-34 intending to vote yes, compared to about 75 per cent of those aged over 65 intending to vote no.

It’s possible the no vote is actually higher.

Brislurker
Brislurker
August 6, 2023 10:03 am

I love Rome. So much history just outside your front door. Was there last in 2013 and stayed at a hotel just around the corner from the Colosseum.

Authorities were doing some pipe work outside the front door and on full display, in the large hole, were the remains of ancient Rome. Blew my mind!

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:04 am

Oh, and Gardening Australian is also banned.

Kolkhoz Avstraliya, to be precise.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:05 am

Cassie at 9:49.

However, Natalie Barr responded: ‘He also said that as a senior broadcaster she probably should have known (better).’

Both Dumgold and Mrs Bandana knew it was pushing contempt boundaries past breaking point. As Barr says, Toad and Ten lawyers should have known without the benefit of Dumgold’s … (ahem) … “wise counsel”.
I don’t think what really happened was a formal legal meeting or briefing.
There would have been lots of sharing common ground as “Westies made good” followed by Toad reading bits of the speech and Dumgold giving a jocular “I couldn’t possibly (wink, nudge) be seen to be giving that a tick” with a very “you go girl” vibe.
I don’t know if there were mai-tais, dumplings and corn chips.
If only we had the CCTV.

mizaris
mizaris
August 6, 2023 10:06 am

Went to Rome in 2005. African men, filth/litter, graffiti and working girls. Decided that Romans do not love their city.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:06 am

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

I don’t need to suit up? It’s not about me, it’s about my pseudo-nephew.

It is being done out of the cycles of masses, so…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:08 am

I am comfortable with Dover passing on my actual name and address.

Uh-oh!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 10:08 am

The only income group where the yes vote was ahead of no was households earning more than $200,000 a year, with 51 per cent supporting the voice.

They can afford to pay the “compensation” and “reparations.”

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:11 am

Some red pills for normies have dropped lately.

Jimmy Wales calls out Wikipedia which he founded as compromised by FBI and CIA shills.

Pfizer workers took a “special batch” of their improperly tested mRNA vaccine.

mizaris
mizaris
August 6, 2023 10:12 am

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Smart casual.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 6, 2023 10:12 am

The Cat is doing my homework for me. A while back Dot alerted me to an article on DNA double strand break repair by reverse transcription of RNA templates. Upstream today John H has alerted me to ferroptosis… which induced me to go on a bit of rummage. Of interest to perhaps no one but my ownsome, I came across this article linking DNA DSB repair and ferroptosis. Only read the abstract but in principle, it checks out.

shatterzzz
August 6, 2023 10:13 am

In breaking news that interests no one but me .. lawn-tested the “Sam Kerr” leg this morning .. gave the “park” it’s 1st summer-is-coming haircut .. a bit over an hour and the leg has come thru without a problem ……
Normal service will resume tomorrow … Monday’z a swimmin’ dayz .. LOL!

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:14 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Aug 6, 2023 10:08 AM

The only income group where the yes vote was ahead of no was households earning more than $200,000 a year, with 51 per cent supporting the voice.

They can afford to pay the “compensation” and “reparations.”

Most of those households would be centred near 200k and many are just overpaid public servants and ticket clippers. They are not productive people and cannot understand why not owning land or perpetual land rent to a self appointed Aboriginal aristocracy (which we already tacitly pay) is a bad idea.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 10:14 am

The only income group where the yes vote was ahead of no was households earning more than $200,000 a year…

Picking up on this a few months ago, the msm line was that middle Australia was “punching down” on the less fortunate.

They dropped that angle pretty quickly as interest rate hikes hit home.

Frank
Frank
August 6, 2023 10:16 am

The one beneficial outcome of the Voice is that it makes the political totem pole crystal clear.

That great protean hierarchy of victimology and all that flows from it.

Gilas
Gilas
August 6, 2023 10:16 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Aug 6, 2023 9:25 AM

This will only be temporary, until after the vote on the In Voice, then it will be reversed again.

Nasty, cruel and suspicious minds, like mine, are tipping such a reversal.

Will happen, in one form or other, with 100% certainty.
Nothing nasty, cruel and suspicious-minded about this.

As Scott Adams has been saying in his latest podcasts, the pattern of deception by US liberals, same as good ol’ Ozzie leftards, can be seen as a machine with defined, predictable, pre-programmed steps.
Jordan Peterson, an ex-Marxist, has been saying this for years.
The method is always the same:

1) Put out some abomination of a “progressive” idea, steeped in Marxist-Commo-anti humanist belief, aiming for centralised power and unlimited use of OPM.

2) Push it onto the proles, using the Gramsci-ed, corrupted institutions and the captured MSM, especially the MSM.

3) Observe the blowback.

4) Adjust the original strategy/wording, pull-back temporarily. if necessary.

5) Try again, same idea, wrapped in different, softer rhetoric, as many times as it takes to win..

6) Stop ONLY after succeeding.

7) Return to step 1).

Apart from the inVoice, just think about the Australia Card, Digital Identity push, or the push to end cash transactions.

Opportunity and time are the only variables.
Both are infinite, and the Marxo-leftards have learnt the virtue of patience.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 6, 2023 10:17 am

Peta Credlins article on Uluru statement and PM’S deception around what it says is a must read and keep to share.

Perhaps somebody can post as I am out and about on my mobile.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 6, 2023 10:19 am

The Voice is distracting attention away from the below subject in a big way.

“Apart from the inVoice, just think about the Australia Card, Digital Identity push, or the push to end cash transactions”

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 6, 2023 10:20 am

Peta Credlin:

All the way along, the Prime Minister has told us that the Uluru Statement from the Heart is nothing more than a gracious invitation from Aboriginal people for recognition in our nation’s Constitution.

He talks about the Voice as being the mechanism to deliver that recognition while desperately trying to avoid any discussion about the other two elements of the Uluru Statement – Treaty and so-called Truth-Telling.

But that is nothing compared to his deception about the Uluru Statement itself, as dramatically exposed in a freedom of information release last week.

Time and time again, Anthony Albanese has repeatedly stated the Uluru Statement is a simple one-page document. In June, he said at a press conference at Parliament House, “The Uluru Statement from the Heart, I’d encourage people to read. You can fit it on one A4 page.”

A week later he told a business gathering in a speech: “Sometimes I focus on a couple of lines, but often I read it right through. If you haven’t, I recommend you do. Like the Gettysburg Address, it only requires a few minutes. It literally fits on one A4 page.”

This is a lie.

The Uluru Statement from the Heart is not a one-page document. It is actually 26 pages in all, including diagrams. What the Prime Minister spruiks is merely an extract and we only know that because the government has just been forced to release the full document under freedom of information, or FOI.

And it’s the whole 26 pages of the Uluru Statement from the Heart that every Australian should read, not the PM’s sanitised one-page extract, before they cast their vote in the upcoming referendum.

Here’s why.

Because the whole tenor of the full Statement from the Heart, and of the 13 meetings leading up to it, as revealed by the official documents released under FOI, is one of anger, grievance, separatism, and the need to restore, as far as possible, Aboriginal rights over the entire Australian land mass.

And it’s this complete statement, all 26 pages, that the PM has repeatedly said his government will implement in full, and that the new ALP national platform will commit to implementing “in this term of government”.

The full Uluru Statement, until now secret, declares that: “The invasion that started at Botany Bay is the origin of the fundamental grievance between the old and new Australians … This is the time of the Frontier Wars when massacres, disease and poison decimated First Nations even as they fought a guerrilla war of resistance … The Tasmanian Genocide and the Black War waged by the colonists reveals the truth about this evil time …”

The full statement says (on page 7) that: “By making agreements at the highest level, the negotiation process with the Australian government allows First Nations to express our sovereignty.” This explicit reference to the “Australian government” directly contradicts the PM’s statement on ABC radio last week that the federal government won’t get involved in treaty-making because, he said, it’s already happening at state level.

The full Uluru Statement also says in plain English (on page 7): “Makarrata is another word for Treaty or agreement making. And it is the culmination of our agenda.”

So, despite the PM’s bad faith denials, it’s clear that the Voice is just the start of a whole series of steps to establish a treaty commission, or “Makarrata Commission”, that’s intended to act as an umpire sitting above the parliament and the executive government in negotiations with the Voice and with individual First Nations (see page 24).

The full Uluru Statement also reveals (on page 23) that parliament would begin work establishing this commission even before legislating the Voice. And we know this is under way because Labor have already committed $5.6m in the budget to a Makarrata Commission, of which some $900,000 has already been spent despite Indigenous Minister Linda Burney refusing to reveal in the parliament on “what”, or “where”.

The full Uluru Statement also sets out in granular detail (on page 22), things such as the Voice being “accommodated on an appropriate site within the parliamentary circle in Canberra” and that it “must also be supported by a sufficient and guaranteed budget, with access to its own independent secretariat, experts and lawyers”. I’m told with all the privileges and salaries of elected members of parliament too.

But here’s the worst of what the full Uluru Statement from the Heart proposes: reparations, or compensation paid by taxpayers, including options (on page 19) such as a “financial settlement based on a percentage of Australia’s GDP” for “the resolution of land, water and resources issues …”

So be in no doubt that if the Voice gets up, there will soon be two classes of Australians. Those with ancestry extending back tens of thousands of years, increasingly consumed with a sense of grievance and entitlement, even though modern Australia is almost entirely colourblind. And those whose ancestry in this country goes back no further than 1788, who will be expected to pay reparations for the privilege of living in the nation that they and their ancestors have helped create. It’s all there in the documents now available, whatever smokescreen the PM and other Yes campaigners try and throw up.

The proposed indigenous Voice, to be voted on later this year, is not yet doomed; but it deserves to be, because its advocates have failed to be straight with the Australian people. As is now abundantly clear, the coming referendum is not about recognition; it’s an attempt to undo the last 240 years since settlement, and to retrofit Australia as a country that still belongs primarily to Aboriginal people, and we should just be grateful they let us live here.

As the full document reveals, the whole point of the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and the Voice it seeks to establish, and Treaty and Truth-Telling also, is to transform our country forever. The referendum that the Prime Minister wants us to pass is really a referendum on Australia itself.

I urge you to read the Uluru Statement in full, all 26 pages, and if it’s not your Australia that’s depicted in it, then the only way to respond is to vote “NO”.

shatterzzz
August 6, 2023 10:22 am

All these trips down memory lane remind me of my youngest daughter, late teens, she went on one of those, young folk popular, KON TIKI bus tours of Europe .. 4 weeks a dozen countries thingys ..
Anywayz, one of the places they visited was AUSCHWITZ .. I don’t think other than maybe a, passing, mention in school history lessons she had any idea or thoughts on the “Holocaust” but when she got home she was still upset by what she had seen/learnt that she into my military books and asking, “What do I read/watch to understand how this could happen?”
12 years later and she is still learning about the camps ….. she has become quite a, knowlegeable expert on the subject ……
An OS holiday that, definitely, had an lasting effect on someone ………

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 6, 2023 10:23 am

Seven wouldn’t touch the Amphibian with a barge pole. She stinks, and I reckon they regard her as low grade and toxic.

I can’t imagine her accepting much of a pay cut as it would be a confession that she knows she is damaged goods, and Seven will see her image as requiring too much rehabilitation with little prospect of it being worthwhile.

Her star now in decline it is time for her rise up on her aged haunches and begin lumbering toward the ABC. It is a one way journey, but at least there she can be held up as an unbowed martyr to misogyny, grasping private sector broadcasters, gender pay gap, white male dominated board rooms, and a champion of rape victims prepared even to break the bonds of law in her pursuit of justice.

Thus the pond of self-righteous delusion is replenished after the recent evaporation of sTan Grant.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:25 am

But here’s the worst of what the full Uluru Statement from the Heart proposes: reparations, or compensation paid by taxpayers, including options (on page 19) such as a “financial settlement based on a percentage of Australia’s GDP” for “the resolution of land, water and resources issues …”

Yeah no champ.

Almost heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUmnTfsY3hI

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:28 am

Dot

Aug 6, 2023 10:06 AM

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Full dress uniform with gold braid on the sleeves and the peak of the cap.

sfw
sfw
August 6, 2023 10:30 am

The northern suburbs of Melbourne are the ones I grew up in and most familiar with. What were once streets of free standing houses with backyards are rapidly being demolished and multi storey units going up. This is mostly along main roads, roads with trams and anywhere near a train line. Bull Rd in Essendon is rapidly changing into a canyon of semi high rise units. Who lives in them? There’s people everywhere at all times of the day, the roads are just a constant traffic jam.

Is this the result of constant massive migration? If so who wants that much? My kids are in their 20’s and 30’s, they and all their friends would have loved to buy a house in the areas they grew up in, a house with a backyard and generally not much traffic.

Now the average price in these areas is around a million, approx 7 or 8 times annual earnings, when I got my first house in Pascoe Vale, I paid $34,000 in 82, approx twice annual earnings, it was a cheap doer upperer. Those houses are also in the million dollar range, the land value is the killer.

So I ask, who wanted this situation, who benefits from it? I believe the low interest rates contributed to the problem, but surely demand is the biggest push factor so who wants the massive migration?

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 10:31 am

Latest polling shows No campaign ahead and even VIC is 55-45 in favour of No.

That’s it. Victoria was a big concern. It’s over .

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 10:33 am

So I ask, who wanted this situation, who benefits from it?

Big business, for starters.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:33 am

Ooh I was invited, not personally, a card in the letterbox to some Fowles gabfest.
How he got preselected again after that last fiasco is beyond me.

Chris
Chris
August 6, 2023 10:35 am

Dot

Aug 6, 2023 10:06 AM

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Tuxedo – and apron.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:36 am

Noel Pearson talking about not wasting millions, this time.
Oh my aching sides.
Noel Pearson under fire from all sides over Aurukun school experiment

bons
bons
August 6, 2023 10:38 am

It is more than probable that the plus $200,000 group do not believe that it will effect them. Something like the UK bankers who believe themselves to be immune from the law and public opinion.
The more telling aspect is that a very significant percentage of the plus $200,000 group are on the teat. Voting yes is a wealth preservation strategy.
It would be very dangerous for us to become complacent over these stats. We are dealing with a communist thug who will not permit himself to lose. For Albanese, Australia is just a super sized inner city Party branch. No rules apply to defeating the ‘tories’.
His adviser, Andrews, will keep him on the totalitarian path, and lets be honest, who is going to stop him?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 10:38 am

Chris

Aug 6, 2023 10:35 AM

Dot

Aug 6, 2023 10:06 AM

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Tuxedo – and apron.

And ceremonial turban.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 10:38 am

So I ask, who wanted this situation, who benefits from it? I believe the low interest rates contributed to the problem, but surely demand is the biggest push factor so who wants the massive migration?

The political parties we vote for is who. Texas has experienced lots of immigration and has a population bigger than ours. Immigrants haven’t caused a blow out in single home prices. Perhaps you should be focused on the labor laws and restricted land use as well punitive taxes.

Let me ask you though. You sound as though you’re approaching retirement if not there already. With a fertility rate that won’t replace the current population , who will fund your accrued benefits. Who will keep the stock market high so that you won’t be impacted by collapsing asset values that you accrued in government work?

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:38 am

Tuxedo – and apron.

My grandfather was a Freemason and a member of the Servite Secular Order in the Catholic church.

Don’t laugh it’s already quite confusing when we have goats in the children’s nativity at Christmas.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:40 am

High density housing, urban heat effect, ballooning energy prices, crowded roads, schools, hospitals, what’s not to like?
I’m kind of hanging on to my place hoping for a high density rezone but might just be a little too far from the railway station.

Bluey
Bluey
August 6, 2023 10:41 am

Got my insurance renewal notice, 12.8% increase. Never claimed anything.

It’s ok though, I know the government is focusing on the important things like the voice and PM’s junket trips.

local oaf
August 6, 2023 10:45 am

6th August – Anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

One again, a huge thank you to all involved (from one who probably would never have been born otherwise)

Barry
Barry
August 6, 2023 10:45 am

I pray that the InVoice is doomed in part because the general public is being reassured that it is OK to vote NO.

That sliver of affirmation provided by Dutton that it’s OK to follow their instincts in being against the power grab, enables the NO vote to grow to it’s natural dimensions.

This is unlike the vaccination hysteria, where both public and media were 100% behind it, making it impossible for people’s natural instincts to ever be validated.

If so, we’ve got to be a bit thankful to Dutton.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:45 am

Rome at the end of December or throughout January is fantastic. You might get a day of rain but mostly it is clear skies, very tolerable to Melbournians daytime temps and except on weekends not too crowded.
I no longer bother with the main attractions, just my favourite places and try to find something I haven’t visited before, which I always manage to do.
Avoiding main attractions also minimises exposure to street spruikers.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 10:49 am

mizaris
Aug 6, 2023 10:12 AM

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Smart casual.

Thank you for a sane answer.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 10:53 am

Got my insurance renewal notice, 12.8% increase. Never claimed anything.

Those who insure the insurers are upping their rates citing global warmening.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 6, 2023 10:55 am

People here were talking about a Redbridge poll. James Campbell and Jess McSweeney elaborate in the Daily Telegraph:

The Yes case for the Voice is “almost unsalvageable”, with a new poll finding it is now behind with a majority of voters in every state and territory.

In the first survey to be taken since the release of the official Yes and No pamphlets last month, a RedBridge poll conducted exclusively for News Corp has found the No case is now ahead 56 per cent to 44 per cent nationally.

And, in a worrying omen for the Albanese government’s bid to entrench an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in the Constitution, the No case’s lead blew out to 59 per cent when voters were exposed to the arguments contained in the official material.

RedBridge found that after hearing the Yes and No cases, one in four people who said they were leaning towards supporting the Voice switched their vote to No.

It also found that at 37 per cent, the proportion of rusted-on No voters is almost twice the 21 per cent who say they are determined to vote Yes.

No is ahead 56-44 per cent in NSW, 55-45 per cent in Victoria, 63-37 per cent in Queensland, and 54-46 per cent in the other states and territories.

The RedBridge poll shows support for the Voice is dividing Australians by education level and income, with those with degrees and higher incomes in favour while the overwhelming majority of everyone else is against it.

Two-thirds of people with a Year 12 and TAFE education plan to vote No, while only 56 per cent of degree holders support the proposal.

Two-thirds of people with annual household incomes below $50,000 a year also say they plan to vote No.

The Voice is also overwhelmingly unpopular with voters aged over 65 and Protestants, three-quarters of whom don’t support it.

The only income group where Yes is ahead are those whose households earn more than $200,000 a year, 51 per cent of whom support it.

Other groups that favour the Voice are those aged 18-34 (63 per cent) and those speaking a language other than English at home (59 per cent).

Director at RedBridge Tony Barry said the research showed the yes23 campaign was “almost unsalvageable”.

“The yes23 campaign based their strategy on the premise that the republic referendum failed because people did not like the detail, and so the solution for this referendum was not to provide any detail,” Mr Barry said.

“In our research we are finding that in the absence of any detail, including why the Voice is essential to delivering tangible benefits for Indigenous Australians, opponents are now assigning real or perceived risks to the proposal which is further undermining public support.

“Right now, it’s all risk for no widely understood benefit.”

Mr Barry said the Yes campaign should be worried that half of its 44 per cent vote was “soft”, meaning the voters were not impassioned about voting Yes.

His RedBridge colleague Kosmos Samaras, a former Victorian ALP official, said the poll showed the Prime Minister should pull the referendum before it gets defeated.

“The smart play for Anthony Albanese is to say he’s going to focus on the cost of living crisis and housing attainability and hold the referendum next term and hope he can increase his majority at the next election off the back of an improved national economic outlook,” Mr Samaras said.

“The Indigenous Voice referendum is the right idea but the wrong time in the political cycle.”

The RedBridge survey of more than a thousand voters asked if they would vote Yes or No, with no ability to opt out or say they had not yet decided.

Voters were also asked how confident they are in their vote, and which campaign they believe is performing better.

When provided a list of potential reasons to vote Yes, the most popular reason was that the idea came directly from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people (17 per cent).

Other popular reasons were that it would bring the country together, 14 per cent, and it would ensure people got a better life, 12 per cent.

When given reasons to vote No, the most popular reason at 22 per cent was that it would divide the country.

Other popular reasons to vote No were that there were not enough details, 16 per cent, and it would not actually help Indigenous people, 16 per cent.

While the Yes campaign is winning in certain demographics, generally Aussies believe the No campaign is performing better — 28 per cent said the No campaign was rating and communicating well, compared to 17 per cent for the Yes campaign.

The rest of the voters did not know either way.

In a worrying sign for the Yes campaign, even Labor voters are divided on the performance of the Yes campaign, with 21 per cent of those who voted for it last May saying the No campaign is performing better, compared to 22 per cent who said the Yes campaign is performing ­better.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 10:56 am

I once got a bargain return flight to Chicago* via Dubai then return Chicago Dublin Dubia Melbourne.
I stretched the Dublin layover to a week.
Much better.
*then drove 150 miles west to Iowa, had a quick kip in a tollway carpark as I was nodding off on the freeway.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 6, 2023 10:57 am

Herald Sun sorry

Brislurker
Brislurker
August 6, 2023 10:58 am

As one who often only gets to the Cat later in the day, I use upticks instead of comments which would be hours after the original comment and totally irrelevant by then.

So I am in the “please upticks” camp!

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 11:01 am

Thinking of a quick trip to NZ that got postponed indefinitely because of St Jacinda playing doctor in 2021.

Start of December, looking to go fishing etc, right or wrong time of year?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 11:04 am

It’s always the wrong time of year to go to NZ.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 6, 2023 11:05 am

Geologists have a saying – rocks remember.

– Neil Armstrong

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 11:07 am

Calli, if you visit Hadrian’s Villa it’s a full day trip. The villa is extensive over vast acreage and there is a lot of walking involved. So much Roman building is left there still, you get the sense of Rome at the height of Empire there. It’s a real ‘must see’ for any second or subsequent visit to Rome when you’ve previously done the city and the major urban sites including Hadrian’s tomb. It’s also very difficult to get to, miles out of the city centre and poorly served by local bus routes which we took and found ourselves dropped off at quite the wrong place initially and had to walk back quite a way; the signage is hopeless. A tour-bus trip would be worth getting, otherwise a taxi booked with a return hour and place, or a car with driver and mobile phone, similar. Take water and sandwiches to eat in front of the famous statue pool. Eateries are few in there. Hats, sunscreen and shade umbrella also useful.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 11:07 am

“The Indigenous Voice referendum is the right idea but the wrong time in the political cycle.”

Mmm…yes; good luck with that.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 11:08 am

Another thing about garma and public dancing/corroboree.
Is it just entertainment or wasn’t there a spiritual aspect, or is it no longer a sacred ritual?
If there is, it’s particularly tawdry doing it for money for the benefit of gawkers.
As for the gawkers paying thousands, arent they just cringeworthy white colonial patronising wankers?

sfw
sfw
August 6, 2023 11:08 am

“With a fertility rate that won’t replace the current population , who will fund your accrued benefits. Who will keep the stock market high so that you won’t be impacted by collapsing asset values that you accrued in government work?”

Not that it’s any of your business but I haven’t worked for the gov for 12+ years, I also worked for a large family owned private Co 2004/2009, as well as owning and running several small businesses over the years while in gov employ. Last time I left the gov I had only $32k in super, even with a seriously ill wife I have managed to build that into a couple of mill in the last 12 years through hard work. I hold almost zero shares ($10k) zero bonds and have managed to be debt free and own a small motel as an investment. I have six kids all doing well. I don’t come here and call people names and abuse anyone who disagrees with me. I make a few observations and ask the occasional question and if I can answer some others. I look for pleasant people with something to say, unfortunately it’s just abuse and shouting at times. I would rather a smaller population with a pleasant quality of life and enjoyed the Aussie culture that we used to have, if the price of that is fewer migrants and (possibly) a lower standard of living, well I can live with that.

I believe that flooding the country with migrants, most of whom have no connection to our culture or western values is the wrong way to go. All these people will eventually get old, all them them have fewer children each generation till they match our birthrate, mass migration is just kicking the can down the road. Those who benefit from it, have no connection to our culture (or what’s left of it). They see themselves as international people and will move wherever they can feed off other people.

Now please leave me alone, if you decide to fall into one of your hate filled, abusive invective rants, take it somewhere else. If on the other hand you can make a point in an astute and yet pleasant way, go ahead.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 6, 2023 11:08 am

The Yes case for the Voice is “almost unsalvageable”, with a new poll finding it is now behind with a majority of voters in every state and territory.

This “fighting Torries” business is harder than I thought.

Tom
Tom
August 6, 2023 11:10 am

The only income group where Yes is ahead are those whose households earn more than $200,000 a year, 51 per cent of whom support it.

In other words, the apartheid referendum is popular with rich people, who are least affected by Australia’s cost-of-living crisis and most gullible to fads of the idle rich like climate alarmism.

Chris
Chris
August 6, 2023 11:10 am

Got my insurance renewal notice, 12.8% increase. Never claimed anything.

Those who insure the insurers are upping their rates citing global warmening.

My sporting club’s buildings (3 sheds, dunnies and a seatainer) insurance has doubled in two years, now over $8K. Its mandatory to insure under our grounds lease. Lots of companies won’t offer coverage at all.

I proposed we form a syndicate to insure the sheds. Each limit liability to say $10K, ten or twenty syndicate members would easily cover complete rebuilding. Inspired by the Medical Defense Association, who ran their own insurance company against malpractice suits. We haven’t done it yet though.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 11:13 am

I am in the “pro downvotes get shown” camp along with many other ghouls like the One Armed Man, Jack Napier & Jack Torrance.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 11:14 am

It’s not a matter of a merely smaller population, it’s a problem of a rapidly aging population, like Japan.
My understanding is in the absence of demand, all asset values drop, not just share values.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 11:14 am

It’s always the wrong time of year to go to NZ.

Cheers cuz.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 6, 2023 11:15 am

Sex at age 90 is like trying to shoot pool with a rope.

– George Burns

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 11:15 am

To outdoor tomfoolery!

Forester
August 6, 2023 11:19 am

bons
Aug 6, 2023 9:59 AM

Oh, and Gardening Australian is also banned.

I’ll never forgive their ABC for what they did with our gardening show.

Or the BBC for Dr Who.

m0nty
m0nty
August 6, 2023 11:20 am

Trump speech overnight, plenty of threats to Jack Smith plus this:

When you go into these new homes with showers, the water drips down slowly. You have suds.. beautiful nice wonderful suds. A lot of money. Proctor and Gamble. All that crap that they sell. It takes you 10 minutes to wash your hair

He is headed for gaol at this rate.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 6, 2023 11:21 am

Today –

Hiroshima Day is observed on August 6 to commemorate the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan, in the year 1945, at the end of World War II.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 11:21 am

Ahhh

nO sOcIaL mEdIa!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12371395/WhatsApp-ban-Australia-Jana-Hocking-dating-tips-red-flags.html

She looks like that and “can’t” get a husband?

PS

Most men despise social media, wish they could weasel out of having said accounts and would prefer potential wives NOT having it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 11:24 am

A fascinating book to read before any trip to Rome and viewing things Hadrian is classicist Elizabeth Speller’s ‘Following Hadrian; A Second-Century Journey Through the Roman Empire’, Hodder Headline, 2003. It’s quite dense, but you can dip in and out. She invents a character from real life, Julia Balbilla, a friend of Hadrian’s wife, to carry parts of her story with evidence that goes beyond known history, into circumstantial and anecdotal material, with a ‘nod’, as she says ‘to the style of the early historians’. (As an aside, It is this sort of ‘nod’ that I have perceived too in my recent analysis of Gildas, where I think far too many have taken his work at a chronological face value).

Cover blurb:

Hadrian, the great, but flawed, Roman Emperor, was an inveterate traveller, intellectual and patron of the arts. But he was also melancholy, volatile and utterly ruthless.
Classicist Elizabeth Speller tells the story of the most powerful man on earth in the early second century against a background of his travels and intrigues. This was a man who had commissioned a dazzling construction programme, from Hadrian’s Wall in Britain and the extraordinary Pantheon in Rome to his 900-room village at Tivoli, works which represent the central themes of his rule: military consolidation, religious tolerance and an extravagant lifestyle.
Soundly based on original sources and archaeology, this compelling book throws new light on Hadrian and the Roman Empire of the second century.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 11:29 am

Another thing about garma and public dancing/corroboree.
Is it just entertainment or wasn’t there a spiritual aspect, or is it no longer a sacred ritual?

An old missionary told me any ritual displayed or story told to an unitiated person is almost certainly not only parts thereof or confected.

The elders only confided the stories to white anthropologists when the next generation was no longer interested in learning them and the anthropologist had gained their complete trust, sometimes by undergoing a form of initiation himself, as was the case with Ted Strehlow. We’d be going back to the 1930s there.

I don’t know how much traditional lore remains in place in Arnhem land, but I suspect a lot of the culture brought by visiting groups to Garma has been confected fairly recently.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 6, 2023 11:31 am

Pfizer workers took a “special batch” of their improperly tested mRNA vaccine.

For bonus points, find the first source (person or document) to call that batch “special”.
If it was Pfizer, maybe you’ve got a red pill. If it was NOT Pfizer, maybe you’re looking at a media beat-up.
It certainly sounded from Pfizer’s clarifications that as the manufacturer they could import their own without taking any boxes from the warehouse already earmarked for grubbermint. A very pedestrian and plausible explanation. To call it special for that reason alone is a stretch.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 6, 2023 11:32 am

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Crocs.
But with socks, to class it up.

Hugh
Hugh
August 6, 2023 11:34 am

Gilas
Aug 6, 2023 10:16 AM

Yep. I reckon that is accurate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 11:36 am

What’s the decorum on what to wear as a confirmation sponsor?

Full dress, with knee breeches, tailcoat, sword and medals.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:37 am

This is unlike the vaccination hysteria, where both public and media were 100% behind it, making it impossible for people’s natural instincts to ever be validated.

If so, we’ve got to be a bit thankful to Dutton.

I’m not sure Dutton has got much to do with it. I’ve said the Voice was doomed from the start. I suppose there was a danger a feel good campaign like gay marriage could have got it up but unlike that issue even the most hardened breakfast TV viewer can see this is a major change to our system of government. Albo, Burney and everyone else haven’t made a good case for what is a fundamentally bad idea. I fully expect it to be the end of Albo, so some good will come of it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:41 am

At best, the Lieborals should be given for not adopting the soft “At least we’re not Labor” position they typically do.

Forester
August 6, 2023 11:43 am

JC
Aug 6, 2023 10:38 AM

…who will fund your accrued benefits.

Can’t we just tax our public servants to prosperity?

cohenite
August 6, 2023 11:44 am

Johnny Rotten
Aug 6, 2023 11:15 AM
Sex at age 90 is like trying to shoot pool with a rope.

Or vice versa.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 11:44 am

oops above, that’s Hadrian’s ‘villa’ in the blurb not ‘village’, although the villa is extensive enough to warrant the title village as well.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 6, 2023 11:44 am

dover0beach Aug 6, 2023 10:38 AM

Migration to VPS went smoothly and appears to have improved performance.

Great. Now to slow it down again with more features!

Up.

Ticks.

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Ticks.

UP.

TICKS.

UP.
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UPTICKS.
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H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:47 am

I’ll never forgive their ABC for what they did with our gardening show.

Was there ever a time were it wasn’t debased? Actually the old Tasmanian communist was better than the ex-SBS hirsute garden gnome.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 6, 2023 11:48 am

Quick look at the interwebs showed me that Garma was started in 1999 by the tribe Yunupi?u.

In recent wanderings through family history outlaws, I came across the following author, his book(s) appear to be quite interesting someone here may be interested in following up a copy. Author removed himself from civilian life after WW1, and went to Arnhem Land. Supposedly contains observations of aboriginal life from the time.

Roger
Roger
August 6, 2023 11:50 am

At best, the Lieborals should be given for not adopting the soft “At least we’re not Labor” position they typically do.

Let’s not forget it was the Liberals under Morrison who adopted the notion of an indigenous voice to parliament in 2019 (after it had been rejected by Turnbull).

The only piece missing was constitutional enshrinement.

That constitutional point – not the Voice itself – remains the nub of Dutton’s rejection of it.

In the meantime he hopes to gain some electoral advantage by jumping on the No bandwagon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 11:51 am

Albo, Burney and everyone else haven’t made a good case for what is a fundamentally bad idea. I fully expect it to be the end of Albo, so some good will come of it.

I still dread the coming massive monetary advertising and media assault, all geared to up the Yes vote. The No response simply has to keep up the pressure and reasoning for No. To stop messaging now could still be fatal. People are so very persuadable, especially women, when it comes to feelz. Just think of how much photographs of drowned infants caused a surge in the welcoming of migrants in the Mediterranean. Tales of horror from the remote communities and reassurances of the Voice being the answer are going to be relentless from now on. Also, handing out No pamphlets on the day could be very important. Are the Libs covering that ground?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 6, 2023 11:52 am

This “fighting Torries” business is harder than I thought.

Potentially fatal. Thank goodness for defined benefits superannuation schemes and grandfather clauses.

bons
bons
August 6, 2023 11:52 am

In every state and territory.
ACT?
Surely not.

calli
calli
August 6, 2023 11:53 am

Just put the uptick function on my comments. An elegant solution, and very affirming.

Forester, you handsome devil! Long time no see.

I suppose the full kilt kit is out of the question for the Confirmation? Might mistake you for a Presbyterian, especially if you take the bagpipes.

Frank
Frank
August 6, 2023 11:56 am

Most men despise social media, wish they could weasel out of having said accounts and would prefer potential wives NOT having it.

Showing your age there Dot. Social media is the preferred medium for the dissemination of dik pics with the young ones, or so I have heard.

Rosie
Rosie
August 6, 2023 12:01 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 6, 2023 12:01 pm

Federal Politics
Anthony Albanese
Indigenous Voice to Parliament
Albanese warns no other Indigenous recognition on the table after referendum
Katina CurtisThe West Australian
Sun, 6 August 2023 8:21AM
Comments

Anthony Albanese has warned people holding out for either symbolic recognition or something that goes further than the Voice that the referendum on the table will be the only constitutional change for Indigenous people he intends to push.

The Prime Minister has also promised he’ll announce the date of the referendum within weeks, after consulting with the Australian Electoral Commission and his cabinet colleagues.

It’s widely expected the vote will be held on October 14 with people inside the Yes campaign working on that basis.

However, Mr Albanese did not use his appearance at the Garma Festival in Arnhem Land to announce the date.

The No case is ahead by 56-44, according to polling by RedBridge for News Corp papers published on Sunday.

Nevertheless, the Prime Minister is persisting with the plans and timeline he outlined at the Garma festival a year ago.

“I’ve listened to Indigenous Australians, and this is something that has arisen from them,” he told ABC’s Insiders.

“What I’m doing by having the great privilege of being Prime Minister is seeking to fulfil their request.”

Asked whether, if the referendum was unsuccessful, he would come back with some other type of recognition, Mr Albanese said: “No, we know this is a once-on-a-generation opportunity.

Why don’t I believe him?

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