Open Thread – Weekend 5 Aug 2023


The House of Guardaboschi, Gustav Klimt, 1912

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Rabz
August 5, 2023 7:03 pm

Only a beaten, listless mass of sheeples can truly believe that an endless torrent of ever-creeping legislation enacted by a body of lying sociopaths is a common good

Humanity never learns, it seems.

Repetition, rhyming, nothing awakes the vast bulk of them from their instant gratification fuelled torpor.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:08 pm

Strolling around with Wifey this afternoon in inner city Melb, we saw about 30 cops, standing around or talking with shop and bar owners. It looked really intense.

I asked a cop what was going on and he obliquely responded that there was a “targeted incident” last evening in the area and that they were asking people if they saw anything.

When I got home and took a look at the Age. (first time in years)

This happened.

A 53-year-old man who was shot dead while walking along a Melbourne street near a popular nightlife area was associated with organised crime, police have revealed.
?The shooting on Almeida Crescent in South Yarra about 11.40pm yesterday was a “targeted attack” on the man, who lived in the suburb, Crime Command Detective Superintendent Geri Porter has confirmed
Porter said the victim was with another man and had just been to the gym when a number of shots were fired at him.

and

He suffered life-threatening injuries and died on the way to hospital.
Porter said the man who was with victim at the time of the shooting had since been refusing to provide police with information, and that police believed the shooting was linked to a car found torched in Rowville today.

cohenite
August 5, 2023 7:08 pm

planned for the 14th October.

So, they’ve actually put a date to the revolution. Speaking of which I took receipt of one of these today. That’s not me in the video.

miltonf
miltonf
August 5, 2023 7:09 pm

Sleazy catches the government plane to a Bully Bragg concert, but that’s okay.

I understand your point but any savvy political advisor would have told BB not to give your enemies something to bash you over the head with. I actually would have expected BB to know. Anyway, I had enough of her- she’s up there with Howard in giving us Trumble.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:10 pm

Reposting this so it is not lost. The
blog’s arsehole retort:

JC
Aug 5, 2023 6:59 PM
Guiseppe the Pursuer:

Kez, who the F is that?
We assumed date night meant you and Driller were dating, You look adorable in that blue dress. Bald but cute.

Guiseppe the Harasser, Haranguer, Pursuer can’t get me out of his head and the reason for this is when there was/is full-on warfare, he has never been able to beat me.

Appears to be the other way round, madam doxxer. We know it was you. Also, it’s fun getting you to Defcon 1 in an instant. You’re so highly strung.

Not once. .Now, of course, he has an Everest sized grudge he has to haul around. He cannot handle being mocked and ends up in a simpering mess on the floor.

Mock away, but you’re not very good at it on your lonesome. That’s why you were going after Liz all gangland style. Surprisingly it’s now disbanded. Wonder why? ?

We already know precedent has been established so slime your way to Dover’s email account and demand I am banned or you will withhold funds.

What anti anxiety tablets are you taking, Kez? Frankly, if I were Dover, I’d ban you for constantly suggesting he’s on the take. What a disgusting retard you are and have always been

That’s you goal, isn’t it, you rapacious writhing blob of

Writhing blob of excrement? Aren’t you taking this adjective thing a little too far, you trailer-trash heap of human junk.

Kez, you’re not exactly setting the world on fire with massive intellectual heft here, nor the previous blog. Outrageously outraged comments just go stale over a short distance, you angry old sad sack
But please stay, as I find you uncertain outrageous outrage amusing.

Sometime, when you have a spare moment in your busy schedule, you could explain to us how you get through life so angry at the world. Really, it would be interesting reading.

How’s it go again.

You, you won’t beat me, you, you hear!

I highlight this:

Appears to be the other way round, madam doxxer. We know it was you. Also, it’s fun getting you to Defcon 1 in an instant. You’re so highly strung.

Evidence – or crawl back up your own arse. You’ve proved beyond a shadow of doubt, I have you. Now go a bite some tyres on the freeway, loser.

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 7:13 pm

Eric Cartman has entered the building.
And what do you know, he invoked what he believes to be his “Get out of Jail” card.
A little earlier this evening than usual, but it looks as though no one has signed his Dance Card.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:14 pm

Mock away, but you’re not very good at it on your lonesome. That’s why you were going after Liz all gangland style. Surprisingly it’s now disbanded. Wonder why? ?

Evidence or go a bite some tyers. You lose again.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:16 pm

Razey
Aug 5, 2023 6:52 PM

The ‘Truth’ is that we live in a post truth world where lying and believing in lies is perfectly acceptable and encouraged, especially amongst the wealthy overlords.

According to David Brookes it’s the professional class, Razey. The business/ Entrepreneurial types are busy trying to make a quid and live their lives.

Of all people, David Brookes from the New York Times wrote about exactly this. He identifies with the professional class, but the light is beginning to switch on is fat head.

Here’s the piece.

What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?

David Brooks

Opinion Columnist

Donald Trump seems to get indicted on a weekly basis. Yet he is utterly dominating his Republican rivals in the polls, and he is tied with Joe Biden in the general election surveys. Trump’s poll numbers are stronger against Biden now than at any time in 2020.

What’s going on here? Why is this guy still politically viable, after all he’s done?

We anti-Trumpers often tell a story to explain that. It was encapsulated in a quote the University of North Carolina political scientist Marc Hetherington gave to my colleague Thomas B. Edsall recently: “Republicans see a world changing around them uncomfortably fast, and they want it to slow down, maybe even take a step backward. But if you are a person of color, a woman who values gender equality or an L.G.B.T. person, would you want to go back to 1963? I doubt it.”

In this story, we anti-Trumpers are the good guys, the forces of progress and enlightenment. The Trumpers are reactionary bigots and authoritarians. Many Republicans support Trump no matter what, according to this story, because at the end of the day, he’s still the bigot in chief, the embodiment of their resentments and that’s what matters to them most.

I partly agree with this story, but it’s also a monument to elite self-satisfaction.

So let me try another story on you. I ask you to try on a vantage point in which we anti-Trumpers are not the eternal good guys. In fact, we’re the bad guys.

This story begins in the 1960s, when high school grads had to go off to fight in Vietnam but the children of the educated class got college deferments. It continues in the 1970s, when the authorities imposed busing on working-class areas in Boston but not on the upscale communities like Wellesley where they themselves lived.

The ideal that we’re all in this together was replaced with the reality that the educated class lives in a world up here and everybody else is forced into a world down there. Members of our class are always publicly speaking out for the marginalized, but somehow we always end up building systems that serve ourselves.

The most important of those systems is the modern meritocracy. We built an entire social order that sorts and excludes people on the basis of the quality that we possess most: academic achievement. Highly educated parents go to elite schools, marry each other, work at high-paying professional jobs and pour enormous resources into our children, who get into the same elite schools, marry each other and pass their exclusive class privileges down from generation to generation.

Daniel Markovits summarized years of research in his book “The Meritocracy Trap”: “Today, middle-class children lose out to the rich children at school, and middle-class adults lose out to elite graduates at work. Meritocracy blocks the middle class from opportunity. Then it blames those who lose a competition for income and status that, even when everyone plays by the rules, only the rich can win.”

The meritocracy isn’t only a system of exclusion; it’s an ethos. During his presidency, Barack Obama used the word “smart” in the context of his policies over 900 times. The implication was that anybody who disagreed with his policies (and perhaps didn’t go to Harvard Law) must be stupid.

Over the last decades, we’ve taken over whole professions and locked everybody else out. When I began my journalism career in Chicago in the 1980s, there were still some old crusty working-class guys around the newsroom. Now we’re not only a college-dominated profession; we’re an elite-college-dominated profession. Only 0.8 percent of college students graduate from the super-elite 12 schools (the Ivy League colleges, plus Stanford, M.I.T., Duke and the University of Chicago). A 2018 study found that more than 50 percent of the staff writers at the beloved New York Times and The Wall Street Journal attended one of the 29 most elite universities in the nation.

Writing in Compact magazine, Michael Lind observes that the upper-middle-class job market looks like a candelabrum: “Those who manage to squeeze through the stem of a few prestigious colleges and universities in their youth can then branch out to fill leadership positions in almost every vocation.”

Or, as Markovits puts it, “elite graduates monopolize the best jobs and at the same time invent new technologies that privilege superskilled workers, making the best jobs better and all other jobs worse.”

Members of our class also segregate ourselves into a few booming metro areas: San Francisco, D.C., Austin and so on. In 2020, Biden won only 500 or so counties, but together they are responsible for 71 percent of the American economy. Trump won over 2,500 counties, responsible for only 29 percent. Once we find our cliques, we don’t get out much. In the book “Social Class in the 21st Century,” the sociologist Mike Savage and his co-researchers found that the members of the highly educated class tend to be the most insular, measured by how often we have contact with those who have jobs unlike our own.

Armed with all kinds of economic, cultural and political power, we support policies that help ourselves. Free trade makes the products we buy cheaper, and our jobs are unlikely to be moved to China. Open immigration makes our service staff cheaper, but new, less-educated immigrants aren’t likely to put downward pressure on our wages.

Like all elites, we use language and mores as tools to recognize one another and exclude others. Using words like “problematic,” “cisgender,” “Latinx” and “intersectional” is a sure sign that you’ve got cultural capital coming out of your ears. Meanwhile, members of the less-educated classes have to walk on eggshells because they never know when we’ve changed the usage rules so that something that was sayable five years ago now gets you fired.

We also change the moral norms in ways that suit ourselves, never mind the cost to others. For example, there used to be a norm that discouraged people from having children outside marriage, but that got washed away during our period of cultural dominance, as we eroded norms that seemed judgmental or that might inhibit individual freedom.

After this social norm was eroded, a funny thing happened. Members of our class still overwhelmingly married and had children within wedlock. People without our resources, unsupported by social norms, were less able to do that. As Adrian Wooldridge points out in his magisterial 2021 book, “The Aristocracy of Talent,” “Sixty percent of births to women with only a high school certificate occur out of wedlock, compared with only 10 percent to women with a university degree.” That matters, he continues, because “the rate of single parenting is the most significant predictor of social immobility in the country.”

Does this mean that I think the people in my class are vicious and evil? No. Most of us are earnest, kind and public-spirited. But we take for granted and benefit from systems that have become oppressive. Elite institutions have become so politically progressive in part because the people in them want to feel good about themselves as they take part in systems that exclude and reject.

It’s easy to understand why people in less-educated classes would conclude that they are under economic, political, cultural and moral assault — and why they’ve rallied around Trump as their best warrior against the educated class. He understood that it’s not the entrepreneurs who seem most threatening to workers; it’s the professional class. Trump understood that there was great demand for a leader who would stick his thumb in our eyes on a daily basis and reject the whole epistemic regime that we rode in on.

If distrustful populism is your basic worldview, the Trump indictments seem like just another skirmish in the class war between the professionals and the workers, another assault by a bunch of coastal lawyers who want to take down the man who most aggressively stands up to them. Of course, the indictments don’t cause Trump supporters to abandon him. They cause them to become more fiercely loyal. That’s the polling story of the last six months.

Are Trump supporters right that the indictments are just a political witch hunt? Of course not. As a card-carrying member of my class, I still basically trust the legal system and the neutral arbiters of justice. Trump is a monster in the way we’ve all been saying for years and deserves to go to prison.

But there’s a larger context here. As the sociologist E. Digby Baltzell wrote decades ago, “History is a graveyard of classes which have preferred caste privileges to leadership.” That is the destiny our class is now flirting with. We can condemn the Trumpian populists until the cows come home, but the real question is: When will we stop behaving in ways that make Trumpism inevitable?

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:16 pm

What anti anxiety tablets are you taking, Kez? Frankly, if I were Dover, I’d ban you for constantly suggesting he’s on the take. What a disgusting retard you are and have always been

There you go. Game. Set. Match.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 5, 2023 7:17 pm

Damn! Lovely ladies.

—-

Selection of 101 leading ladies from a century of motion pictures from the 1910s through the 2010s. Titles in era-appropriate typeface include decade(s) during which each cinema queen reigned.

Two notable takeaways: Starting with Ann-Margret, several ladies break the fourth wall, ushering in the new wave; Catherine Deneuve has had the most longevity as a leading lady.

[This is only a selection from the many who’ve graced movie screens in the span of 100 years.]

0:01 Louise Brooks
0:03 Lillian Gish
0:07 Mary Pickford
0:10 Clara Bow
0:13 Greta Garbo
0:16 Marlene Dietrich
0:19 Joan Crawford
0:21 Barbara Stanwyck
0:23 Myrna Loy
0:25 Jean Harlow
0:27 Carole Lombard
0:30 Bette Davis
0:32 Claudette Colbert
0:34 Ginger Rogers
0:41 Joan Fontaine
0:43 Vivien Leigh
0:45 Katharine Hepburn
0:47 Ingrid Bergman
0:49 Lauren Bacall
0:51 Judy Garland
0:53 Esther Williams
0:55 Ava Gardner
0:57 Rita Hayworth
0:59 Lena Horne
1:01 Debbie Reynolds
1:02 Deborah Kerr
1:03 Elizabeth Taylor
1:05 Marilyn Monroe
1:08 Doris Day
1:10 Grace Kelly
1:13 Audrey Hepburn
1:17 Kim Novak
1:19 Shirley MacLaine
1:20 Natalie Wood
1:21 Ann-Margret
1:23 Brigitte Bardot
1:25 Romy Schneider
1:26 Anna Karina
1:28 Anouck Aimee
1:29 Catherine Deneuve
1:31 Faye Dunaway
1:32 Vanessa Redgrave
1:33 Sophia Loren
1:35 Jacqueline Bissett
1:36 Mia Farrow
1:38 Katharine Ross
1:39 Claudia Cardinale
1:41 Stephane Audran
1:42 Diana Rigg
1:43 Jane Fonda
1:44 Jane Birkin
1:46 Julie Andrews
1:47 Ali McGraw
1:48 Candice Bergen
1:50 Barbra Streisand
1:51 Julie Christie
1:53 Glenda Jackson
1:54 Pam Grier
1:56 Britt Ekland
1:57 Diane Keaton
1:58 Sissy Spacek
1:59 Sally Field
2:00 Meryl Streep
2:01 Shelley Duvall
2:02 Mary Tyler Moore
2:03 Goldie Hawn
2:04 Liza Minnelli
2:05 Jessica Lange
2:06 Sigourney Weaver
2:07 Cher
2:08 Kim Basinger
2:10 Molly Ringwald
2:11 Glenn Close
2:12 Melanie Griffith
2:13 Meg Ryan
2:14 Laura Dern
2:15 Michelle Pfeiffer
2:17 Julia Roberts
2:19 Jodie Foster
2:20 Geena Davis
2:21 Susan Sarandon
2:23 Sharon Stone
2:25 Sandra Bullock
2:26 Cameron Diaz
2:28 Nicole Kidman
2:29 Uma Thurman
2:30 Charlize Theron
2:31 Reese Witherspoon
2:32 Scarlett Johansson
2:33 Keira Knightley
2:34 Audrey Tautou
2:35 Penelope Cruz
2:36 Drew Barrymore
2:38 Angelina Jolie
2:39 Tilda Swinton
2:40 Julianne Moore
2:42 Jennifer Lawrence
2:44 Halle Berry
2:45 Marion Cotillard
2:47 Cate Blanchett
2:49 Kristin Stewart

A Century Of Leading Ladies (She’s A Lady… Supercut)

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:19 pm

My apologies to regular posters but I will not suffer lies from a repulsive stalking mong.

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 7:21 pm

JMH,
Butters is having his dinner, Eric has to have his fix, you were closest.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:23 pm

Evidence or go a bite some tyers. You lose again.

In boxes? There’s not enough cardboard in the country to fit it all in, you pathetic dishonest little wimp.

There you go. Game. Set. Match.

How’s it go again:

You, you won’t beat me, you, you hear!

🙂

Yea.

Seriously, I’ve never seen someone as highly strung and on edge as this deadbeat. this angry letter writer.

And earlier, Duk reckoned we don’t need drugs to help people.

Right.

Kez is exhibit A why we do.

Chris
Chris
August 5, 2023 7:24 pm

Of all people, David Brookes from the New York Times wrote about exactly this. He identifies with the professional class, but the light is beginning to switch on is fat head.

He of the tingling scrotum when he saw Obama’s trouser creases?

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:25 pm

JMH
Aug 5, 2023 7:19 PM

My apologies to regular posters but I will not suffer lies from a repulsive stalking mong.

Lol.. yea he apologizes now, not when he was ganging up on a woman. And now in denial.

So anxious. So needy.

Robert Sewell
August 5, 2023 7:26 pm

Farmer Gez

Aug 5, 2023 1:27 PM
We should spend more time simply enjoying the unshakable fact that Dictator Dan is the man who killed the Comm Games.
Jeering and heckling is mandatory.

Can we have a light stoning?

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:26 pm

JC
Aug 5, 2023 7:23 PM
Evidence or go a bite some tyers. You lose again.

In boxes? There’s not enough cardboard in the country to fit it all in, you pathetic dishonest little wimp.

There you go. Game. Set. Match.

How’s it go again:

You, you won’t beat me, you, you hear!

?

Yea.

Seriously, I’ve never seen someone as highly strung and on edge as this deadbeat. this angry letter writer.

And earlier, Duk reckoned we don’t need drugs to help people.

Right.

Kez is exhibit A why we do.

That’s the best this pus-filled retard can come up with?

Game. Set. Match.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 7:27 pm

JC at 7:08.

I asked a cop what was going on and he obliquely responded that there was a “targeted incident” last evening in the area and that they were asking people if they saw anything.

When I got home and took a look at the Age. (first time in years)

This happened.

A 53-year-old man who was shot dead

They didn’t detain you?
I mean, from the descriptions people give of you here, I am imagining you would look like a ‘person of interest’.
🙂

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 7:28 pm

How’s the angry letter business doing, you big cry baby

that reminds me JC …. I’m still waiting for the summons

what’s going on at your end ?

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:28 pm

Game. Set. Match.

The Cat’s Serena Williams.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 7:28 pm

GMH!
Settle down, champ.
You’ll burst a foofer valve.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 7:29 pm

No radio show peoples, until Dover approves it, evidently.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 5, 2023 7:29 pm

I love Newscorpse’s attempts to convert their readers to woke righteousness and Gaia luvvin’. Completely transparent. Here’s what they have on the Daily Tele website:

New twist in Aussie entrepreneur’s EV cash crunch

The Australian businessman behind a rescue bid for a failed British electric vehicle battery firm has missed the deadline for the final payment to seal the deal.

Big problem with new electric car

A wave of cheap new electric vehicles have arrived from booming Chinese brands, we examine the latest arrival to see if the numbers stack up.

Euro summer holiday ‘under threat from global warming’

Could climate change spell the end of the European summer holiday? Intrepid Travel chief executive James Thornton shares his predictions.

Go to Europe and fry! They just can’t stop nudging their rude uncouth readers. I mentioned to my Pommy neighbour, who is a Green, that it was warmer here in Ncl than it was in London, in summer. He agreed.

Ok, Tele peoples, try to do that crud when you have no readers., which is what you’ll get after they all leave in disgust. I’m amused by this woke propaganda though, it won’t work. Someone tell the kiddie Murdochs they’re dreaming.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:30 pm

You’ll burst a foofer valve.

Volcanic.

Reckon they’ll have to use 240 volt electrodes to both temples in ER ASAP. Boy oh boy this is a strung up “girl”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 5, 2023 7:31 pm

It’s “Ribbit” ! That’s if I hear old Gabby Johnstone of Rock Ridge correctly.

All I know is the sheriff is a-nea…ar.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:32 pm

JC
Aug 5, 2023 7:28 PM
Game. Set. Match.

The Cat’s Serena Williams.

Done like a dinner.
Walks away rubbing hands.

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:32 pm
JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:33 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 5, 2023 7:28 PM

GMH!

Who is GMH?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 7:33 pm

0:01 Louise Brooks

This lady – Mary Louise Brooks – is not the Louise Cromwell Brooks who had four husbands – one of who was Douglas MacArthur.

cohenite
August 5, 2023 7:34 pm

Steve trickler
Aug 5, 2023 7:17 PM
Damn! Lovely ladies.

Yeah, but it’s missing her and her.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 7:35 pm

try to purvey that crud when you have no readers, which is what you’ll get after they all leave in disgust

See also the ALPBC – hugely unread, unwatched and unlistened to.

A self righteous circle – they purvey crap that no one is into, the public stays away in droves and then they decide to appeal to an even more selective audience, which doesn’t exist, then they …

Gilas
Gilas
August 5, 2023 7:36 pm

cohenite
Aug 5, 2023 7:08 PM

planned for the 14th October.

So, they’ve actually put a date to the revolution.

Volunteered 2 weeks ago, AEC dates were given at the time. Clearly too confidential for the useless, brain-dead, BS-laden MSM.

Speaking of which I took receipt of one of these today.

Love the option for a flash-guard.

Robert Sewell
August 5, 2023 7:36 pm

Viva:

Re Big Pharma discussion
The original post:
Robert Sewell
Aug 3, 2023 12:40 PM
Rosie:

I had two relatives who opted out of cancer treatment, one was in his fifties, for the other it was a second go round with cancer in his late thirties.

Robert – me:

That would be my choice too for most cancers – at least you keep some control over your progression to the end with the (sometimes) well meaning but ineffectual hectoring of a system that counts days or weeks as a victory to the exclusion of emotional and spiritual quality.

It has now been reframed several times to include children’s cancers, treatments, etc etc and no longer addresses the original post.
It’s called shifting the goal posts and is a favourite of Sancho Panzer and JC.
Anything to win an argument and give someone a kick in the head.
It’s dishonest and I’m over it.

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:37 pm
John H.
John H.
August 5, 2023 7:39 pm

Dot
Aug 5, 2023 6:43 PM
How does one exist on this planet in this day and age without a sense of and ability to laugh at the absurd?

A sane person to an insane society must appear insane.

[My original work, no plagiarism.]

Kurt Vonnegut. Welcome to the Monkey House.

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 7:39 pm

Eric is channeling the Alien Space Probe projecting from his bottom, and I have just watched a vet on television repairing the most massive prolapse in a cow I have ever seen.
Coincidence? I think not.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:40 pm

MH
Aug 5, 2023 7:32 PM

Done like a dinner.
Walks away rubbing hands.

LOl..

You, you won’t beat me, you, you hear!

Kez, take a real hard cold look at yourself. You’re now denying the abuse you threw at Liz as a pathetic little gang member. You can’t bare to front this, but the only way you’re able to get though life as a complete person is to front this Mr Hyde thing you’ve got going. Me, I’m the only one that can help you get through the anger and this low sense of net worth. Join the others in a group chat each week. It’s the only way you can experience a rich and fulfilled life. Not money obviously as that’s not going to happen.

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:41 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:43 pm
Rabz
August 5, 2023 7:44 pm

Eric is channeling the Alien Space Probe projecting from his bottom

Thanks Pogs – LOL.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 7:45 pm

Turtlehead

I thought we’re way past the cancer abortion thing you and his Dukness got yourselves in and now onto the inflation discussion.

Please keep up.

PS, after years and years of claiming people are lying about your comments and making up half truths, it’s about time you begin to list these grievances as people are going to start disbelieving your bullshit.

calli
calli
August 5, 2023 7:45 pm

It’s Saturday night at the Cat. Nothing changes.

Cheer up guys. You’re above the ground, not under it.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 5, 2023 7:46 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 5, 2023 7:47 pm

No radio show peoples

Bugger. Oh well Rabz, here is a reply to you Wings track.

Live and Let Die • Theme Song • Paul McCartney and Wings

Essential that I do that…because.

Jane Seymour, 72, feels like she’s 40 again after partying the night away in low-cut top (31 Jul)

Some ladies are ridiculously ageless. I can see why Cats love Roger Moore so much…so did she.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 5, 2023 7:47 pm

Noel Pearson and his hat have flicked the switch to amiable grandpa mode and is going to smother us with love, according to the oz. Chortle.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 5, 2023 7:47 pm

Fair call.

cohenite
Aug 5, 2023 7:34 PM
Steve trickler
Aug 5, 2023 7:17 PM
Damn! Lovely ladies.

Yeah, but it’s missing her and her.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 7:50 pm

I’m reading Australia and the Vietnam War by Peter Edwards – good , one volume history of that shooting match.

It’s an article of faith that Vietnam Veterans, disappointed with the response of the R.S.L. to mental and physical ailments, formed the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia – they set up a counseling service specifically for Vietnam veterans that went on to become “Open Arms.”

However, it seems more veterans joined the R.S.L. then joined VVAA – more again joined neither.

Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 7:51 pm

Are you serious?
The first comment regarding refusing cancer treatment was ftb, I responded by mentioning a couple of relatives who’d done so, I think Win made a comment and then you chimed in.

It has now been reframed several times to include children’s cancers,

Or maybe those other discussions have nothing to do with you.
It’s not as if cancer has never been discussed here before.
Incidentally the ‘reframing’ ie independent comment re childhood cancer was duk, JC and SP, John H I and a couple of others responded.
PS
No goal posts were injured in this post.

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 7:51 pm

Rabz,
for your viewing pleasure. 😀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZBp0aVQpFU

Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 7:53 pm

Roger was definitely moreish.

Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 7:53 pm

Roger was definitely moreish.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 7:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:55 pm
calli
calli
August 5, 2023 7:55 pm

They also missed the lovely Liv Tyler.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 7:58 pm

JC
Aug 5, 2023 7:40 PM
MH
Aug 5, 2023 7:32 PM

Done like a dinner.
Walks away rubbing hands.

LOl..

You, you won’t beat me, you, you hear!

Kez, take a real hard cold look at yourself. You’re now denying the abuse you threw at Liz as a pathetic little gang member. You can’t bare to front this, but the only way you’re able to get though life as a complete person is to front this Mr Hyde thing you’ve got going. Me, I’m the only one that can help you get through the anger and this low sense of net worth. Join the others in a group chat each week. It’s the only way you can experience a rich and fulfilled life. Not money obviously as that’s not going to happen.

BWAHAHAHAHA, Yes, I will answer this ridiculous post. This idiot, with snot running down his nose, singles me out as THE ONLY person who tried to educate Liz into NOT making every post about her. FFS. There were many others, but this troll singles me out because, I, along with Johanna were probably the most effective. Notice this thing doesn’t dare attack Johanna. Why is that? Because he would have his arse handed to him on a plate. He doesn’t attack recent comments re. Lizzie’s fetishes. Why is that? He aims his vitriol at me. (Because he cannot accept a women has his measure.) Let me reiterate: During the “Lizzie Wars” not once did this f/stain come to Lizzie’s defense. Not once.
Game. Set. match.

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 7:58 pm

I think more and more people are starting to realise this, which is why Trump’s approval rating keeps rising.

The Scapegoat: It’s Not About Trump, It’s About Us–They Hate Us

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 8:03 pm

Calli,
Liv Tyler is luminous. Also has excellent manners. Her Southern Grandmother took no prisoners when it came to manners.

Have you seen Liv’s first film, Stealing Beauty? You could see a brilliant future ahead of her. She completely outshone Rachel Weiss who was also in the film.

Apropos of nothing, the swimming pool in that film is my dream pool.

Robert Sewell
August 5, 2023 8:12 pm

cohenite

Aug 5, 2023 7:08 PM
planned for the 14th October.

So, they’ve actually put a date to the revolution. Speaking of which I took receipt of one of these today. That’s not me in the video.

Lovely.
+ uptix

Gilas
Gilas
August 5, 2023 8:16 pm

Rabz would like this.

Hugh
Hugh
August 5, 2023 8:18 pm

Rabz
Aug 5, 2023 5:49 PM

Don’t let on to Arks

I must confess to being rather skeptical about all this gender-queer business, but I have to admit that this Arky fellow certainly does have a sweet arse—no wonder he gets so many upticks!
Tell me though, is he the one on the left or the right of the photo? 😀

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 8:19 pm

BWAHAHAHAHA, Yes, I will answer this ridiculous post. This idiot, with snot running down his nose, singles me out as THE ONLY person who tried to educate Liz into NOT making every post about her. FFS.

LOl. As the only one?

A comment ago, I mentioned how you were part of.a despicable pile-on gang. It appeared to be a very self satisfied little bunch until I intervened and stopped it.

And Kez is still reeling from that. It’s made her angrier against me.

There were many others, but this troll singles me out because, I, along with Johanna were probably the most effective. Notice this thing doesn’t dare attack Johanna.

How weird. Kez is now bringing in other people into the abuse. What a squealer. I’ve always said that I had no interest in getting involved in a girt on girl spat and also, Johanna was never joining a pile on. One on one wasn’t my concern.

Angry Kez and his gang of pathetic loons were onto a pile on.

Keep in mind that a few comments ago, Kez was denying any of this. She wanted evidence.

Evidence or go a bite some tyers. You lose again.

Now she’s saying she wasn’t the only one and dobbing in Johanna. Just pathetic.

Why is that? Because he would have his arse handed to him on a plate.

Really? Johanna and I had stoushes going back years.

Kez is deluding herself that I ever shy away from arguments.

He doesn’t attack recent comments re. Lizzie’s fetishes. Why is that?

Why would I as I don’t really care much one way or another. Liz doesn’t go out her way to upset people by attacking them. Angry Kez does, weakly by joining in pile ons. Weak and pathetic.

He aims his vitriol at me. (Because he cannot accept a women has his measure.)

Kez, sometimes you’re a woman and other times you’ve claimed to be a manly man. How often are you transitioning back and forth? Honest and real question.

Let me reiterate: During the “Lizzie Wars” not once did this f/stain come to Lizzie’s defense. Not once.

Sure I did, I ended it, which is why some of these pile onners are still angry or no longer here.

Game. Set. match.

Serena needs to get her head out of her arse and try to stop being so, so angry.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
August 5, 2023 8:21 pm

At the Obama residence, dinner will be served once the chef washes up.

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 8:24 pm

Johnny Rotten

bwahahahahaha 😀

Gabor
Gabor
August 5, 2023 8:25 pm

Just wondering, could anyone offer a ranking of trades/occupations/professions?

Seems to me that a lot of occupations are derided and used as an argument against the poster.
Why?
What difference does it make?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 8:27 pm

Just wondering, could anyone offer a ranking of trades/occupations/professions?

Gentleman?

Rabz
August 5, 2023 8:27 pm

What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?
David Brooks
j’ismist

Very interesting column, thanks JC.

Loved the observation about the elite class’ tendency to live in entirely normal familial relationships (90%) while inflicting utter dysfunction on the proles (10%).

My sister and brother in law being classic examples. Married for 43 years, two kiddies and are now obscenely wealthy collectivists.

It’s the shameless hypocrisy that sticks in the craw. It resembles a manifestation of selective blindness. Ultimately, it enables evil.

Robert Sewell
August 5, 2023 8:27 pm

Aug 5, 2023 7:45 PM
Turtlehead
I thought we’re way past the cancer abortion thing you and his Dukness got yourselves in and now onto the inflation discussion.
Please keep up.
PS, after years and years of claiming people are lying about your comments and making up half truths, it’s about time you begin to list these grievances as people are going to start disbelieving your bullshit.

A subject isn’t over just because you start getting you arse kicked, Bignose.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 8:32 pm

Yea Rabz, it’s a really decent column, which is why I posted it.

I hope that over the longer term i(t will take time), the SCOTUS decision will impact the social mix like the old days.

cohenite
August 5, 2023 8:36 pm

And to round off my evenings contribution, a well travelled but never get old collection of clips showing how stupid biden is:

https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2023/08/04/must-watch-the-compilation-of-bidens-not-so-greatest-hits-make-sure-to-share-this-with-a-biden-voter/

Dot
Dot
August 5, 2023 8:36 pm

Maybe I’m slow but I only “get” this blog between 7 AM and 11 AM, usually weekdays.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 8:40 pm

JC
Aug 5, 2023 8:19 PM

A comment ago, I mentioned how you were part of.a despicable pile-on gang. It appeared to be a very self satisfied little bunch until I intervened and stopped it.

When did you intervene? How many times? I just said you did not. Proof or you go down as lying once again.
How weird. Kez is now bringing in other people into the abuse. What a squealer. I’ve always said that I had no interest in getting involved in a girt on girl spat and also, Johanna was never joining a pile on. One on one wasn’t my concern.

Bwahahaha and BOOM!
Kez, sometimes you’re a woman and other times you’ve claimed to be a manly man. How often are you transitioning back and forth? Honest and real question.

This is how obsessed this sick creature is.

Why would I as I don’t really care much one way or another. Liz doesn’t go out her way to upset people by attacking them. Angry Kez does, weakly by joining in pile ons. Weak and pathetic.

You care alright. This is the only weapon you think you have against me. Again, I beat you.

Sure I did, I ended it, which is why some of these pile onners are still angry or no longer here.


No you did not stand up for Lizzie. Produce proof or it didn’t happen. Note: The arsehole admits he drove people away from the Cat. That’s his ultimate aim when anybody stands up to this thing.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 8:41 pm

Apologies for format fail!

Rabz
August 5, 2023 8:43 pm

Pol – the only solution is to immediately ingest substantial quantities of psychotropic substances* leavened with many, many litres of alcoholic beverages.

Get it then, you will.

*You should have no trouble finding some in the Kampuchean Jungle holdfast you’re currently languishing within …

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 8:45 pm
Rabz
August 5, 2023 8:50 pm

would like this

Yes, Gilas – which is why I posted it at 7:54pm.

You were hoping to post something else?

Featuring an aesthetically pleasing young womanage, perhaps?

Rabz
August 5, 2023 8:54 pm

Academia is BROKEN!

The sky is BLEU!

Collectivists are IMBECILES!

The ALPBC is a JOKE!

Biden is SENILE!

Rabz
August 5, 2023 8:56 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 8:59 pm

Who knew Japan were working on an atomic bomb too?
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The Weekend Australian Magazine
12:00AM August 5, 2023
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Born a few weeks before the outbreak of World War 1I, I was six years old when the Enola Gay dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima. A child of the atomic age, my nickname at East Kew Primary was Adam Bomb.

Talking to Ray Monk about his biography of J. Robert Oppenheimer, the theoretical phycisist known as “the father of the atomic bomb”, my memories came rushing back. Including the memory of something Japan has preferred to forget, and wants the world to forget: the inconvenient truth that Japan, as well as the US and Germany, was working on the A Bomb. How do I know this? Because a bloke called Teddy Conant told me.

Here’s the essence of the story. As a child, Ted was bounced on Einstein’s knee. His father, James B. Conant, held many senior positions in US academic, military and diplomatic life, including the presidency of Harvard and as his country’s first ambassador to West Germany. Having worked on the grim science of poison gas he would, years later, play a key role in the Manhattan Project. Conant witnessed the first Trinity detonation and was a member of the committee that advised President Harry Truman to bomb Hiroshima. Later, from a change of heart, he would oppose the development of the hydrogen bomb.
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Forty years ago Conant’s son Teddy, who looked eerily like Jerry Lewis’s nutty professor, was working for me – heading a team refining a unique Australian 3D system for film and television. Kerry Packer was our financier. We had R&D teams working in five cities. We were flying to visit technicians in Tokyo when Teddy dropped the metaphoric bombshell – quite casually informing us that the Japanese had been working on the bomb. I was incredulous, disbelieving. This was unknown to the wider world – and to those of us who regarded the US bombings as war crimes.

On our arrival, Teddy introduced me to an ex-journalist friend who had been researching Japan’s secret nuclear program for a book that was never published. He played us wire recordings of interviews with Japanese scientists who confessed their involvement, even though the program hadn’t been wildly successful. I heard him ask an ancient Japanese general the question, “Would you have used it?” The answer was chilling in its simplicity. After a laugh, “Of course!”

This changes nothing and everything.

Critics of the decision to bomb Japanese cities argue that that it did not hasten the end of the war (Japan was already defeated), that the atom bomb should have been demonstrated to the world in the desert rather than deployed, and that its real purpose was to frighten the USSR – to effectively declare the Cold War.

What seems clear to me is that the fact of a Japanese nuclear project at very least changes perceptions about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yet nobody knows about it, least of all in modern Japan. Those who did know about it are long dead. Including my friend Teddy. But it’s part of the story of Oppenheimer, now being retold in Christopher Nolan’s film epic.

The nuclear club has nine sovereign members, with almost 13,000 nuclear weapons in the global stockpile. The Doomsday Clock is back at seconds to midnight … lest we forget.

JMH
JMH
August 5, 2023 9:01 pm

Just one more thing before I revert to ignoring the imbecile again. Let’s have another look at this statement:-
Kez, sometimes you’re a woman and other times you’ve claimed to be a manly man. How often are you transitioning back and forth? Honest and real question.

I’d like proof that I have ever “claimed to be a manly man”. Citation required – or you are lying once again – because you are incapable of producing a believable comeback. Your fallback position is to rely on nothing but smut. What a lowlife you are. You need professional help to rid yourself with your obsession with me.

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 9:02 pm

Just wondering, could anyone offer a ranking of trades/occupations/professions?

the most noble … Blog Rescuer

Rabz
August 5, 2023 9:04 pm

The Doomsday Clock is back at seconds to midnight

And yet has never been correct*

Dillip “hypocrisy becomes me and my model second woife as I phone it in from our expansive country estate” Flabbams.

Just FOAD, you tiresome sanctimonious ol’ waste of space.

*I so wanted to write “right” ….

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 9:15 pm

I’d like proof that I have ever “claimed to be a manly man”.

Kez, I was trying to build you up here, and you don’t want to be described and manly? Okay. 🙂

Citation required – or you are lying once again – because you are incapable of producing a believable comeback. Your fallback position is to rely on nothing but smut. What a lowlife you are. You need professional help to rid yourself with your obsession with me.

I don’t get what I’m lying about. Those claims I made are true. You’ve told us you’re female and then reverted back to being male. It doesn’t matter these days if you’re unsure. As for being smutty? How so, Kez?

This obsession thing is the other way around. Just like this evening, you couldn’t stand I was ignoring you and you then had to pretend you didn’t know who Drills (Driller) is. You start 50% of these stoushes and I reserve the right to do the same. And I will because payback is a real bitch.

Stay true, Kez.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 9:17 pm

On the Big Pharma debate and the claim that these companies are somehow deliberately manipulating the market for childhood cancer drugs.
That is, they develop drugs for “management” vs drugs for a “cure”.
This assumes that:-
1. Drug companies have a cure but are suppressing it; or
2. They could develop a cure but don’t do so for commercial reasons.
Suppression of a Cure?
What odds a Pharma has a cure and are suppressing it?
Well, they’d have to keep it off patent. Imagine the outrage if they patented a cancer cure but didn’t release it? But they then run the risk of someone else patenting it.
Commercially, what is the benefit of suppressing a known cure in favour of long term management drugs?
Well, they are not that “long term”, and certainly not perpetual. As JC says, they all come off patent after a finite period.
So, they’d have to weigh the Discounted Cash Flows of the immediate payment for the cure, vs lower 10-20 year incremental payments for the “management” treatment (knowing that it could be rendered worthless at any time by a competitor’s cure).
Given that we all know Big Pharma can strong-arm governments, how much do you reckon they would charge to put a silver bullet cancer cure on the PBS?
$250k?
$500k?
More?
Diversion of Resources Away from Research for a Cure
Given the immediate and immense rewards that would accrue from bringing a cure to market, why would these avaricious companies do that?
They weigh the risks and returns of everything they do. If they saw a pathway to a silver bullet cure, they’d take it.
Not just for the rewards.
Remember, this is a two-edged sword.
If they hold back when they see a clear path to a cure, they would know that someone else will surely steal a march.
This whole illogical and unsupported assertion relies upon the erroneous assumption that Big Pharma is a single entity acting in unison.
It is not.
As JC says, there are scores (if not hundreds) of VC pharma minors and university based research outfits who would quite happily turn themselves into instant billionaires by developing a cure.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 9:23 pm

Cats – this night’s Radio Show is likely not to be posted on its own thread.

So here it is anyway:

Rabz’ Radio Show August 2023: Cars

There has always been an intimate link between cars and contemporary music and car stereos (aka sound systems) enable the immediacy of that link.

As the (almost) ultimate freedom machines, cars can enable a young man to impress an aesthetically pleasing young woman in more ways than might be immediately obvious.

There are so many songs that are about cars I’d barely be able to scratch the surface.

However – there is an insidious agenda intended to deny these wondrous freedom machines to the “common people”.

Electric Vehicles are a joke. Expensive, impractical (see the concept of “range anxiety”) and possibly lethal when not in use (another novel concept) our self-declared betters have not been shy about decreeing that the proles will use EVs, bicycles, public transport, or resort to good ol’ walking. Or else.

The Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicle is in danger of extinction if these ridiculous totalitarians have their way. The plan is to tax, legislate and starve ICE vehicles out of existence.

We must not allow this to happen.

Anyway, not wanting to let the lunacy impede our enjoyment, here’s my two song choices for this month:

The most awesome coda in the history of car related songs:

Gary Numan – Cars

Why we love them so much:

The Triffids – Wide open Road

No doubt there’s a whole library of memorable songs that you’re just waiting to post in the comments thread. Incidentally, I’ll be heading off tomorrow (weather permitting) on my favourite drive in Oz – the various roads through the Royal National Park, culminating in lunch at the newly refurbished Imperial Hotel in Clifton.

Go for it Cats, you know you want to and may your proverbial gas tanks remain eternally full to the brim!

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 9:26 pm

So, they’d have to weigh the Discounted Cash Flows of the immediate payment for the cure, vs lower 10-20 year incremental payments for the “management” treatment (knowing that it could be rendered worthless at any time by a competitor’s cure).

Eggsactly. Permanent cure or management treatment, if the final 20 year payout is the same, Pharma don’t give a shit.

I don’t know these days, but years ago there were a similar discussion. I looked up the rate of return and these big pharma firms make around 15% return on equity capital. It’s a decent return, but not spectacular.

Google made US$16 billion income last quarter. That’s over the pavilion spectacular.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 9:28 pm

Nurse Betty at 7:36.

It has now been reframed several times to include children’s cancers, treatments, etc etc and no longer addresses the original post.

Err, do try to keep up.
Duk specifically raised childhood cancers this morning.
Reminder.
It’s not always all about you Betty.
Now go take some iodine.

Delta A
Delta A
August 5, 2023 9:29 pm
Delta A
Delta A
August 5, 2023 9:31 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 9:31 pm

Original post from this morning, Betty.

flyingduk

Aug 5, 2023 8:30 AM

Story in todays Oz:

Childhood cancer will be conquered in a generation – The world-leading work of rock star researcher Michelle Haber has improved children’s cancer survival rates by 85 per cent. She says one day soon, cancer will become a manageable disease. How will she do it?

Notwithstanding it looks like another ‘no child will live in poverty by 1990’ moment, take note of the wording – cancer will be conquered by *managing* it, not by *curing* it . Yet another tell on big pharmas business plan – drugs for life makes money for life, curing illness dont.

The bold bit is the Oz quote.
Apology accepted, Betty.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 9:34 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djt7dcXvVNw

“Sliante” to all you hairy mob.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 9:35 pm

It’s not always all about you Betty.
Now go take some iodine.

Extremely self absorbed. He once told us he bought a load of iodine for himself. This has now morphed into a Community Based Iodine organizer. Like he’s the Obama of Iodine. For lord’s sake.

John H.
John H.
August 5, 2023 9:38 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 5, 2023 9:17 PM
On the Big Pharma debate and the claim that these companies are somehow deliberately manipulating the market for childhood cancer drugs.

The other issue is that some people must know about this cure. The discoverers would be the among most famous people in history. Do we really think they would keep that secret hidden as their friends and loved ones died from cancer and deny themselves to be among the most respected people in human history?

I’m not having a go at you Sancho but I am having a go at anyone who thinks such a discovery could remain hidden.

My suspicion is that Big Pharma makes money off prescriptions. Viagra, antidepressants, cardiac medications, diabetes drugs etc. So before we even look at the financials, and I know we can’t do this, shouldn’t we first determine where the big bucks are being made?

It’s Saturday night, I’ve just finished another successful mission but I’m bored with the game. Good night and good luck.

Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 9:39 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 9:40 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 5, 2023 9:42 pm

John H.
Big pharma makes money off prescriptions?
I never.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 9:45 pm

JohnH I’m sure they make decent money on those meds you mentioned.

But their results aren’t a moon shot.

Pfizer made US21 billion IN the last year. Their market cap is $US200 billion. Investing in the stock today means about a 10.5% return against net income. It’s okay, but not over the moon.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PFE?p=PFE&.tsrc=fin-srch

John H.
John H.
August 5, 2023 9:49 pm

Rosie
Aug 5, 2023 9:42 PM
John H.
Big pharma makes money off prescriptions?
I never.

My point was that is where they make the big bucks, not cancer treatments.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 9:53 pm

John H

There’s no mystery in all this. These firms work things out on a spreadsheet. How much will this medication cost to bring it to market and can it make an expected return on capital over the expected life of the med. It doesn’t matter to them one way or another if the med is for ongoing treatment or a cure. There’s no mystery here because every freaking business in the world, large or small, works this way.

What’s the cost. Can I get my money back over the estimated life. That’s it.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 5, 2023 9:57 pm

Gilas vented:

a deranged, racist, divisive, f@cked-up abortion like the inVoice.

Don’t call it an abortion, they’ll want more of them!

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 9:58 pm

new target it seems?

ffs, it is tiresome

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 10:01 pm

My point was that is where they make the big bucks, not cancer treatments.

A firm that came up for the cure for Hep C for big bucks.

There is no vaccine to prevent hepatitis C, but medical innovations in recent years mean that oral treatments can cure most people. However, these newer drugs have a high cost that can make paying for hepatitis C treatment difficult.

and

Medication pricing is complex. When new medications hit the market, they are more expensive than older ones.

The medications do not have competition from other drug manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies can control their distribution.

Over time, as companies release competitor medications or the medicine is available as a generic drug, the competition usually drives the market cost down.

Also, the smaller the demand for a specific treatment, the higher the cost is of that medication. This is because pharmaceutical companies have to make more money per unit, as they will be selling the medication to fewer people.

Hepatitis C is a condition that affects approximately 3.5 million AmericansTrusted Source, with as many as half potentially unaware that they have the infection, according to the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The fact that hepatitis C is a condition that affects millions of people should mean the drugs cost less. Even so, current treatment regimens can be very costly.

The cost, FMD

Ledipasvir-sofosbuvir (Harvoni): The average wholesale cost for Harvoni is $1,125 per pill. An 8-week treatment course is $63,000 while a 12-week treatment course is $94,500 and a 24-week one is $189,000.
Simeprevir (Olysio): The average wholesale cost for the medication is $790 per 150 milligrams (mg) capsule. A 28-day supply costs $22,120, and a 12-week supply costs $66,360. Sometimes a doctor will prescribe this along with the medication sofosbuvir, where a 12-week course of treatment for both medications totals about $150,000.
Sofosbuvir (Sovaldi): This medication costs $1,000 per 400 mg pill. The total cost for a 12-week course is around $84,000, and doctors will typically prescribe it with other medicines, such as simeprevir.
Ombitasvir-paritaprevir-ritonavir and dasabuvir (Viekira Pak): The cost for this medication is $83,319 for a 12-week treatment course. The cost for a 24-week treatment course is $166,638.

I suspect this is where we’re heading. There will be cures for cancers and all sorts of crap, but the price is going to be and has to be huge.

This is where the inequality rubber is going to meet the road.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 10:04 pm

“I reckon the parents should be in prison,” she says.

It was one regional town, I know, but the pizzwrecks of elders were excusing juvenile crime, on the grounds that “Whitefella will never break the spirit of these proud young Aboriginal warriors.”

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 10:06 pm

MatrixTransform
Aug 5, 2023 9:58 PM

new target it seems?

ffs, it is tiresome

You know about targeting. This all you do here you hypocrite. Now, because you’ve been getting some of your own medicine back in spades, you’re whining little a little nancy. But the the blog doesn’t measure to your high standards? Don’t make us vomit.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:13 pm

Thanks Rabz for opening the radio show. Here is my first car song:

Steve Miller Band – Mercury Blues

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 10:16 pm

You know about targeting.

heheh … it’s why you’re too scared to have a duel

have you chosen a King’s Council yet you tosser?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:17 pm

I’m not having a go at you Sancho but I am having a go at anyone who thinks such a discovery could remain hidden.

I am in agreement.
It is a preposterous suggestion that it could remain suppressed.

The other issue is that some people must know about this cure. The discoverers would be the among most famous people in history. Do we really think they would keep that secret hidden as their friends and loved ones died from cancer and deny themselves to be among the most respected people in human history?

No.
If a small group knew about it at Company X, one of them could jump ship to Company Y and claim ir (or walk into a Patents Office Monday morning and register it individually).
What are his former colleagues going to say?
“Yeah. That was ours. But we were sitting on it.”
Just not credible.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:18 pm

Then there is this dangerous car driver:

Jan and Dean – Little Old Lady From Pasadena

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:21 pm

My point was that is where they make the big bucks, not cancer treatments.

They probably do.
But let’s say they have a division dedicated to cancer treatments, completely separate from statins, BP meds, diabetes drugs.
They would do the same risk-reward DCF calcs on “cure” vs “manage” drugs.
Truth is, they don’t see a payoff in the pursuit of a cure, because the chances of developing the ‘silver bullet’ are so low.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 10:22 pm

heheh … it’s why you’re too scared to have a duel

have you chosen a King’s Council yet you tosser?

Oh so you get beaten to a pulp being shown to be a mental case and now you want to fight it out because your ego has been damaged. Is that it? Just keep making these threats dickhead. Keep’em coming. It will work out really well in the end.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:22 pm

Even Janis Joplin sang a car song:

Mercedes Benz

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:25 pm

Mustn’t leave out The Beach Boys and

Little Deuce Coupe

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:26 pm

JC at 10:01.
Jeez.
If people are paying circa $US 150 large for a Hep C cure, I think my spitball numbers of $250-$500k for a cancer cure might be undercooked.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:28 pm

I always imagined that the car in this song would be a Torana:

Ted Mulroney Gang – Jump In My Car

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:29 pm

heheh … it’s why you’re too scared to have a duel

duel?

wtf r u talkin’ ’bout champ?

Rabz
August 5, 2023 10:31 pm

Sorry peoples – Dover was out and couldn’t post the thread, especially given the “hamster troubles”

It will be posted in all its glory (hopefully) next Saturday night at 7:00pm.

So hold back on those motorised favourites, please.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 5, 2023 10:32 pm

Can’t link. The Cars, Drive.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:32 pm

It seems the 60s were not only the car songs heyday but the age of beautiful cars to boot.

The Rip Chords – Hey Little Cobra

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 10:32 pm

Sanchez

The WSJ was talking about this a while ago. Some of these expected cancer cures are being discussed at US 500K.

Our friend had metastasized bone cancer. She was on meds that were costing Medicare around 50K a year which went on for about 7 years.

This can’t be supported on the national insurance unless there is a substantial hike in the levy, I can’t see this happening. So it will possibly end up as a charge against superannuation accounts or one’s pocket.

Crossie
Crossie
August 5, 2023 10:33 pm

Rabz
Aug 5, 2023 10:31 PM
Sorry peoples – Dover was out and couldn’t post the thread, especially given the “hamster troubles”

It will be posted in all its glory (hopefully) next Saturday night at 7:00pm.

So hold back on those motorised favourites, please.

Oops, too late.

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 10:43 pm

JC,

exactly how many commentators have you demolished today?

and I wonder how many other forums are you busy saving at the same time as yr saving this one?

I suspect it’s zero but, still that’s some seriously impressive wank you have going on right there

a wanker of such grand stature and reputation as yourself would surely either offer a duel or get legal counsel … you know, so MT can get ‘beaten to a pulp’

but seriously, you should stop pissing about and fight

instead of posturing all the time … otherwise people might start to think yr just a narcissistic clown

Alamak!
August 5, 2023 10:43 pm

GreyRanga> Here you are …

Cars – Drive

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:47 pm

JC

Aug 5, 2023 10:32 PM

Sanchez

The WSJ was talking about this a while ago. Some of these expected cancer cures are being discussed at US 500K.

Our friend had metastasized bone cancer. She was on meds that were costing Medicare around 50K a year which went on for about 7 years.

Big bucks.
But there would be enormous pressure to at least subsidise them.
I mean, if we are really talking about a one-off, cured, gone forever solution it would be yuuuge.
In fact, it was also a pretty silly assertion to say that Pharma companies are looking to get childhood cancer sufferers on “long term management” drugs.
The brutal truth is, most aren’t on them long term.
You either get better, or you die.
Horrible business case either way.
🙁

Rabz
August 5, 2023 10:48 pm

It is xining … 😕

Rabz
August 5, 2023 10:49 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 10:50 pm

oops

sorry

just shit my pants

its the bloody god oracle effect again

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 10:51 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 10:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBG2IxzEn7g

Grumpy old men RULE, and don’t you young fellas ever forget it!

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 10:53 pm

hey sancho,

it isnt a pile on

JC doesn’t do pile-ons

and besides

the world doesn’t need another bad rendition of Don Quixote

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 10:54 pm

exactly how many commentators have you demolished today?

That’s not the intent, Oracle.

and I wonder how many other forums are you busy saving at the same time as yr saving this one?

I’m on the HVAC blog talking circuitry all the time.

I suspect it’s zero but, still that’s some seriously impressive wank you have going on right there

Wanking? Again? How old is that, genius.

a wanker of such grand stature and reputation as yourself would surely either offer a duel or get legal counsel … you know, so MT can get ‘beaten to a pulp’

The AFP doesn’t take kindly to internet threats, which is what this talk of dueling is now becoming. But keep mentioning it though, you oracle.

but seriously, you should stop pissing about and fight

Explain what you mean by fighting? Be specific.

instead of posturing all the time … otherwise people might start to think yr just a narcissistic clown

I’m not the god oracle causing others to have diarrhea as soon as I walk into a room.

Lay it out what are these threats about fighting and dueling mean?

Try and not be derivative.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 10:54 pm
Alamak!
August 5, 2023 10:57 pm

I guess you’re just what I needed … another fine Cars song

Rabz
August 5, 2023 10:59 pm

Another certain personage*

*How he avoided being sued for royaltees is better left to greater legal minds than Pancho’s and HB Bear’s, Cats …

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 10:59 pm

goodnight … you fkn simpletons

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:01 pm

not Zulu though, I like his video link

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:03 pm

Bing Bong!
Mong flounce alert!
Bing Bong!

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:03 pm

Trans.. Anymore of these veiled threats and you’ll need to discuss it with the AFP. If you’re unable to argue verbally, because you’re an incoherent sludge, then you should really piss off and cry in a corner.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:03 pm

alamak – I’ll raise you this

Razey
Razey
August 5, 2023 11:03 pm

This Voice, third chamber of parliament and Ayers Rock statement are genuinely frightening. The end of Australia as we know it with a new ruling class of fake Abo parasites lording it over everyone.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:06 pm

razey – which is why the screeech will go down in flames like the Hindenburg …

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:07 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:07 pm

*How he avoided being sued for royaltees is better left to greater legal minds than Pancho’s and HB Bear’s, Cats …

The Bear has at least appeared in court with horsehair atop the straw boater and in a silk waistcoat.
My appearances have been in a couple of different spots, but never at the bar table.
And that is all we will say about that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 5, 2023 11:08 pm

This Voice, third chamber of parliament and Ayers Rock statement are genuinely frightening. The end of Australia as we know it with a new ruling class of fake Abo parasites lording it over everyone.

That’s all I see this whole situation as turning into. A ruling class of 1/16th and 1/64th “Aboriginals”…..

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:09 pm

when you think about it, it is funny

here’s sancho playing well … sancho

to JC’s dragon-slaying version of Don Quixote de la Mancha

sadly by happenstance

but still, it is kind of poetic

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:10 pm

Anymore of these veiled threats and you’ll need to discuss it with the AFP

you should get them to email me … they sound really serious

wanker

Indolent
Indolent
August 5, 2023 11:12 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
August 5, 2023 11:13 pm

Nah, it was only Local Court. No robes or garb. Police prosecutor for what it was worth. Never lost a case though.

Alamak!
August 5, 2023 11:14 pm

… and she used to be mine

:-/

Hard to pick just one winner from a band like the Cars.

Speaking of cars, how about driving it home with one headlight

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:15 pm

MatrixTransform
Aug 5, 2023 11:09 PM

when you think about it, it is funny

Okay sure, but it’s also funny seeing a nasty piece of work complaining about the blog. IGo open one yourself and see how many people turn up shitting themselves.

here’s sancho playing well … sancho

Should he be playing anyone else? Groogs?

to JC’s dragon-slaying version of Don Quixote de la Mancha

Well, look at you though. From God Oracle to someone making anon threats over the web because you’ve been shown to be a fool.

sadly by happenstance

I guess it is.

but still, it is kind of poetic

Really? Poetic. I bet the AFP wouldn’t consider threats very poetic, but perhaps you could explain the poetry in the interview room.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 5, 2023 11:17 pm

Back from outdoor pursuits, followed by a gigantic feed served up by exquisite backpackers with glorious accents.

Now watching the Hitler Channel – a show on the history and workings of ICBMs.

Man, those things must have some awesome control panels. And switch-flicking to die for.

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:19 pm

wait … can you really get charged and convicted for calling a wanker a ‘wanker’?

surely, in a just world, there’s some sort of law for stopping wankers from being actual… you know … wankers

I hope for my sake that lady justice, although blind, is as fkn stupid as you are JC

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:19 pm

MatrixTransform
Aug 5, 2023 11:10 PM

Anymore of these veiled threats and you’ll need to discuss it with the AFP

you should get them to email me … they sound really serious

wanker

Sounds like it. 10 years for making threats to kill and 7 for threats of assault.

Do you want to elaborate a little more on this dueling thing and fighting? What do you actually mean by that, Oracle?

You don’t intimidate me or anyone else you clown. Piss off

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:22 pm

wait … can you really get charged and convicted for calling a wanker a ‘wanker’?

No, but you can be changed and convicted for making veiled threats over the internet. Big time.

surely, in a just world, there’s some sort of law for stopping wankers from being actual… you know … wankers

If only. But you can’t help yourself.

I hope for my sake that lady justice, although blind, is as fkn stupid as you are JC

Could be, but then I wouldn’t be relying on your smarts, you genius.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:22 pm

My appearances have been in a couple of different spots, but never at the bar table.

Yeah, Pancho – well I have appeared at the bar table before a full bench of the Fair Work Commission as an alleged expert presenting evidence on an obscure segment of the labour force.

Not something that was in my jerb description – even had to don a tie (FFS). Their ignorance of certain superannuation provisions took me aback. Thank goodness for transcripts. They will go in my next jerb application, if I could be bothered.

It’s not easy being an economist. We are largely regarded by wider society as a joke and rightly so.

The only ones who take us seriously are the alleged nomenklatura. 😕

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:23 pm

PS:
JC, yr over-use inline quoting is a little retarded

… do you think they’ll arrest me at gun-point?

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:26 pm

PS:
JC, yr over-use inline quoting is a little retarded

Your threats aren’t just retarded but like all threats the should be taken seriously and treated as such especially when repeated.

… do you think they’ll arrest me at gun-point?

Depends if you challenge them to a duel. I’m sure you’ll inform them you’re a God Oracle.

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:27 pm

JC,
can you ask the AFP
do they know that sometime I drink at a bar right beside their barracks?

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:27 pm

Conservatives Can’t Play Political Hardball

Because they’re about as useful a tits on a bull.

Glad I’m not a conservative.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:27 pm

Yeah, Pancho – well I have appeared at the bar table before a full bench of the Fair Work Commission 

FWC?
Phhht.
You don’t even have to learn Roman Numerals for that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:28 pm

oops

shit myself again

yep

god oracle

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:29 pm

JC,
can you ask the AFP
do they know that sometime I drink at a bar right beside their barracks?

I’m sure it will change everything, especially with making threats repeatedly over the internet. They would be immediately taken in by that sort of thing.

Alamak!
August 5, 2023 11:29 pm

“When you first rise in the morning tell yourself: I will encounter busybodies, ingrates, egomaniacs, liars, the jealous and cranks. They are all stricken with these afflictions because they don’t know the difference between good and evil. Because I have understood the beauty of good and the ugliness of evil, I know that these wrong-doers are still akin to me . . . and that none can do me harm, or implicate me in ugliness—nor can I be angry at my relatives or hate them. For we are made for cooperation.”

I think a certain Roman general and philosopher might be surprised how much of a finite allocation of time could be wasted by people playing internet insult tennis to no useful outcome. Book a Zoom call, share your worst insults and then … move on.

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:32 pm

JC,

the only thing bigger that your ego, is your mouth

arrogant clown

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 5, 2023 11:35 pm

… do you think they’ll arrest me at gun-point?

Check with St. Ruth. They might actually be broomsticks.

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:37 pm

JC,

the only thing bigger that your ego, is your mouth

arrogant clown

Sure, I agree, but it’s these threats of violence that sound really worrying.

I hope I’ve never referred to myself as a god oracle and that people literally take a dump in front of me because they’re scared.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:37 pm

The greatest Liberty Quote of them all:-

“Well, what was I supposed to think?”

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:39 pm

Nothing beats god oracle though. That takes the grand prize for the liberty quote of the year.

John H.
John H.
August 5, 2023 11:40 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 5, 2023 10:21 PM
My point was that is where they make the big bucks, not cancer treatments.

They probably do.
But let’s say they have a division dedicated to cancer treatments, completely separate from statins, BP meds, diabetes drugs.
They would do the same risk-reward DCF calcs on “cure” vs “manage” drugs.
Truth is, they don’t see a payoff in the pursuit of a cure, because the chances of developing the ‘silver bullet’ are so low.

I get that. It is a difficult problem for them though because they explore so many different approaches. Each is a potential learning opportunity but weighing that financially must be so difficult. There are potential silver bullets for specific types of cancers but not for cancer in general. However a news report just a few days ago does point to an approach that may have benefits across a number of cancers.

Several years ago a group of scientists, led by Paul Davies, came up with a fascinating approach. They argued that cancer cells reflect the re-emergence of an ancient replication pathway. I can appreciate the novelty of the idea and given the massive chromosomal derangement(aneuploidy) that is so common in cancer it is conceivable that the usual constraints on gene transcription(methylation and acetylation) are lost and hence the cells behave more like single celled organisms dividing as often as possible. The oncological community dismissed the idea, to my knowledge it has not gained traction, but at least it represents an interesting approach to the challenge.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 5, 2023 11:40 pm

Matrix, when you have a minute and if I am not presuming too much, this one might be helpful for you with regard to your daughter. The young woman’s analysis of what happened to her is very insightful, and very hopeful for you as long as you keep lines of communication open with your girl.

One thing I do wonder about with this young woman – she is ‘off’ testosterone but having had her ovaries and uterus removed, I do hope that she is being given menopausal hormonal therapy now. It isn’t mentioned but it would be necessary.
For these poor girls caught up in this cruel medical nonsense and now wanting out of it, a very good endocrinologist is a necessary consultation point early on and later.

Rabz
August 5, 2023 11:43 pm

You don’t even have to learn Roman Numerals for that.

They obviously hadn’t.

Rabz: “I’d like to refer the Bench to clause blah in the Award, covering superannuation”
The Bench: “err what, you odd little gnome?”
Rabz: “Clause blah of the Award, your pompousnesses”
The Bench: “This clause exists why, you silly little man?”
Rabz: “Because Keato stated that superannuation would exist so that wukkas wouldn’t be dependent on the aged pension when they reached retirement age, your pompousnesses”
The Bench: “This is a profoundly ridiculous and presumably previously unheard of concept, you silly little man”
Rabz: “Evidently, your pompousnesses”
The Bench: “Now go away and let us not ever be cursed by the presence of your like again, we pronounceth”
Rabz: [redacted]

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 11:44 pm

I’m in Love with my Car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaEM4JYFPfw

JC
JC
August 5, 2023 11:46 pm

Ghizza

How’s USSR. I hear you’re very friendly terms. Nice gal. Do you know if she’s still pizzagating her way through life?

MatrixTransform
August 5, 2023 11:47 pm

this one might be helpful for you with regard to your daughter

thanks but, she’s 30yo

she can do whatever she wants

Pogria
Pogria
August 5, 2023 11:49 pm

And let’s not forget our Drive-in Days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11MzbEcHlw

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:49 pm

There are potential silver bullets for specific types of cancers but not for cancer in general.

That is my understanding.
So a breakthrough in gastrointestinal cancers means sfa in the world of brain tumours and blood and bone cancers.
Incidentally, if anyone reads the story in the Oz about the advances in childhood cancer treatments, and all they can think of is shaking their fist at Big Pharma, it might be time for a visit to the Hall of Mirrors.
Inspiring and encouraging stuff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:52 pm

Just be thankful they didn’t don the black rag on top of the horsehair, Rabz, you impertinent little upstart, and despatch you to the Tower.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 5, 2023 11:53 pm

I find it really hard to comprehend those Liberals, particularly the two women, who voted against Pauline Hanson’s wish to have the issues of physically ‘transitioning’ children brought before a Senate enquiry, especially given the new medical accounts now arising internationally.

Yet today, two friends waiting on the floor near to me for the start of our dance class, whom I know and find very nice people, when briefly discussing books read recently, said how they didn’t enjoy J.K. Rowling’s latest because of its anti-trans ‘agenda’. After all, they said to each other, with me caught silently located in the middle of their exchange, it’s terrible what parents go through with unkind people being nasty when all they are trying to do is to help their poor child to become the sex they really are. These women live in a Teal electorate, voted Teal and have been influenced by Teal propaganda. The class started before I had time to say anything to them. Their views depressed me, made me unhopeful re the feelz appeal of the Voice. Far too many women don’t think, they just emote. Luckily, some of us at coffee can put alternative viewpoints, and we do.

Dot
Dot
August 5, 2023 11:55 pm

goodnight … you fkn simpletons

???

Curious thing to say if you enjoy being here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:55 pm

JC

Aug 5, 2023 11:46 PM

Ghizza

How’s USSR. I hear you’re very friendly terms. Nice gal. Do you know if she’s still pizzagating her way through life?

Crikey.
There’s a blast from the past.
Whatever happened to that bitter old [I’d rather we didn’t use that sort of language here thanks – DB]?

Dot
Dot
August 5, 2023 11:57 pm

if anyone reads the story in the Oz about the advances in childhood cancer treatments

It’s actually possibly generalisable if you are talking about the Flinders U stuff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 5, 2023 11:57 pm

this one might be helpful for you with regard to your daughter

I think that might be mis-gendering.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 5, 2023 11:59 pm

thanks but, she’s 30yo

she can do whatever she wants

Of course she can. That’s a given. But she can also talk to her dad, who can show he understands some of the feelings she’s had. While you are both cooking up a storm together. That’s a start. As you can see from the young woman in the video, the way her decisions affected her family had a continuing salience. That is only natural, as we grow up in families and they count for more than almost anything else.

If it is hurtful right now, let the video be. But it is there if you bookmark it for later.
I’ll butt out now.

Bedtime here anyway.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 12:01 am

The best thing about Trump going rogue is that it has outed some real frauds like Bill Mitchell.

I never thought Roseanne Barr was going to be a political scientist or that she’d be more attractive than Maddona Ciccone.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 12:05 am

Rabz: [redacted]

lol, Rabz. That’s the way. Save Dover the bother.

Must have a drink again with you soon.
So you can unredact. 🙂

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:05 am

… do you think they’ll arrest me at gun-point?

You can expect to be handcuffed whilst clad in your pyjamas.

That’s the usual Australian way of handling people who pose your level of risk to the public.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:07 am

Full bench Rabz, impressive stuff. Or collectively about an intellectual match for you + your dog.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:08 am

He has to win 60/ 40, Dot. Otherwise the election will be considered stolen.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 12:11 am

My god, I used to blow up when USSR would post Bill Mitchell’s stupid mug and fake teeth, along with the incredibly dull, pointless and boring Bill Still as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 6, 2023 12:17 am

These late nite threads read much better without upticks.

I agree upticks can be useful, keep going the sense of involvement of a community, but in long abusive sessions late nite they are tedious.

Guess that’s ok if the boredom sends people to bed when it’s bedtime. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 6, 2023 12:18 am

Curious thing to say if you enjoy being here.

Clearly, an insufficient number of people have involuntarily defecated once aware of his presence.

Or, and to put it another way, there has been an abject failure to enthrall the audience – of whom most have been in more than one rodeo themselves.

Hence the recent displays of petulant sookage.

Dot
Dot
August 6, 2023 12:22 am

Can’t find @srrohohyes anywhere!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:35 am

Lol @ Matrix. You won’t be arrested. An emotionally incontinent jerk on a blog site, getting all riled up coz he’s getting a bit of his own back, isn’t going to get 10 seconds of their attention.

Cops aren’t interested in actual targeted death threats via the internet. (Not unless the target is a politician.)
I know, I’ve some experience with receiving threats to life electronically – & on far more public forums than this one.

They’ll laugh at him.

Gutless Guiseppe is having a tantrum coz you disrespect his status. Don’t you know who he is?

He’s a coward, he won’t do anything, except rant at his screen & cover it with spittle.

Threats of cops (box ticked)
Threats of barristers sooled onto you (box ticked)
Next box to tick is a veiled threat of doxing.

He hasn’t the balls for that either.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:40 am

Driller
Stop enticing people towards making threatening comments over the web.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:43 am

I know, I’ve some experience with receiving threats to life electronically – & on far more public forums than this one.

Topper alert. How many more.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:47 am

Who, is “Driller”?

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:49 am

Oh Okay, let’s make it official then

Steve, stop enticing people towards making threatening comments over the web.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 6, 2023 12:49 am

Stop enticing people towards making threatening comments over the web.

It is not possible to stop what has not been started.

Unlike, say, a request to you, to stop being a cockhead.

JC
JC
August 6, 2023 12:53 am

It is not possible to stop what has not been started.

Steve, you were the other evening and you are now. It’s repeated enticement.

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