Open Thread – Wed 1 Nov 2023


The Forerunners of Christ with Saints and Martyrs, Fra Angelico, c. early 15th Century

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Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 6:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 6:55 pm
Lysander
Lysander
November 3, 2023 6:55 pm

Listen Dotty. I am not Grigory or Greame Bird etc,

You are legion?

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 6:57 pm

The people were were incarcerated with were bad enough sober.

Were they? Where were they? Did they get weary?

JC
JC
November 3, 2023 6:57 pm

Sadistic Biden Regime Announces “Country’s First National Strategy to Counter Islamophobia” As Muslim Rioters Chant “Death to the Jews” In Protests Across America

Were it not so sick, it would be comical. Jewish groups are reporting sky high rampant anti-sem and these swine are calling out Muslim phobia.

Tom
Tom
November 3, 2023 6:58 pm

Listen Dotty. I am not Grigory or Greame Bird etc,

LOL. All the trolls are now trying it on as they think the blogmaster (like Bibi) is a soft touch who can easily be deceived.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 6:58 pm

Yeah mate. I am Legion LOL. Bird. Numbers, it’s all me. Faaaaark!

Lysander
Lysander
November 3, 2023 6:59 pm

The SFLs strike again!

Instead of preselecting Ian Cook for Mulgrave, they’ve instead gone for Prosciutto’s policy adviser.

Who is running this sh!tshow in Vic?

Lysander
Lysander
November 3, 2023 7:00 pm

Yeah mate. I am Legion LOL. Bird. Numbers, it’s all me. Faaaaark!

I am…

not yer “mate”

Never was. Never will be.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 7:01 pm

I am not Graegooglery or Graeme Bird, etc,

So you’re some other random bizarre weirdo.

Wunderbar.

“Imagine what you could be buying instead”

The topic of my next Econ 101 post, Cats. Unfortunately delayed due to yet another cyclic confluence of staggering global stupidity and insanity … 😕

calli
calli
November 3, 2023 7:02 pm

The Kittehs aren’t fooled. Noticed how few comments there have been? Work it out boys. We have heightened spidey senses because we have to.

I now discover that the creep making a sexualised comment to me is a confessed ex jailbird.

That’s all I have to say.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:02 pm

@ Zafiro
Nov 3, 2023 6:58 PM
Yeah me too apparently.. glad my shadows dont leap at me …

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2023 7:03 pm

Were it not so sick, it would be comical. Jewish groups are reporting sky high rampant anti-sem and these swine are calling out Muslim phobia.”

I am just gobsmacked at the deceit and the gaslighting.

Cassie of Sydney
November 3, 2023 7:04 pm

The Kittehs aren’t fooled. Noticed how few comments there have been? Work it out boys. We have heightened spidey senses because we have to.”

Yep. It’s quite unpleasant.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 7:04 pm

It wasn’t Bob Whittaker from Toowoomba who wrote Jelly beans in the Jungle. It was me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 3, 2023 7:04 pm

I miss the old night shift.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:04 pm

I now discover that the creep making a sexualised comment to me is a confessed ex jailbird.

I don’t think that’s him. I think it is Bird, who is using the identity of a third party.

All of their writing styles are completely different. Continued ranting and Bird has gone back to form.

This is really pissing you off, isn’t it Graeme?

As for Grigory, he couldn’t help make the same sledge at KD.

At best, he’s another weirdo from the Lillipop blog or the Freedom Furniture joint.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:06 pm

No one is stopping any one from posting… have at it folks.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 7:06 pm

Funny as Rabz

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 3, 2023 7:06 pm

Groogs really can’t help himself. We were definitely due a sock change.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:06 pm

Zafiro
Nov 3, 2023 7:04 PM

It wasn’t Bob Whittaker from Toowoomba who wrote Jelly beans in the Jungle. It was me.

Whittaker describes his service in Vietnam which included deadly encounters with the enemy as well as humdrum service in the rear where he worked as a projectionist—a job he’d learned as a civilian teacher on a similar Bell and Howell machine. We also learn a lot about R & R in Bangkok.

Whittaker writes about his re-entry problems after coming home to Australia. He encountered many of the same sorts of prejudices that Americans did when they returned home from the Vietnam War. He had no brass band waiting for him in Toowoomba.

Whittaker says that in the book he focuses mostly on the lighter aspects of his tour of duty. But he also describes incidents of friendly fire and includes a discussion of the effects of carpet bombing on the indigenous population, as well as details about Agent Orange and what it did to the people and environment in Vietnam—and what it did to him personally. He is convinced that one of his offspring was born dead due to his extreme exposure to the highly toxic defoliant.

“More than thirty-five years later, in the summer storm season at my home in Toowoomba, the sound of distant thunder reminds me of the rumbling sound of B-52s carpet bombing suspected North Vietnamese concentrations,” Whittaker writes.

Sure buddy and you went through basic training in 1984.

miltonf
miltonf
November 3, 2023 7:07 pm

Instead of preselecting Ian Cook for Mulgrave, they’ve instead gone for Prosciutto’s policy adviser.

it’s a club for the ‘in’ people- not even particularly interested in winning government it seems

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 7:07 pm

Graeme is not here Dotty. FFS

cohenite
November 3, 2023 7:09 pm

Caught a bus this arvo with Lord Malcolm the Miserable.

Turdball on a bus, eh. There’s the difference; when Tone goes for a stroll in Tassie he gets head-butted by a 6 fingered feral.

Lysander
Lysander
November 3, 2023 7:10 pm

Well who knew! You can ask ChatGPT about commentors on this blog!!!

It knew I commented here as well as H B Bear (I looked up a few others but it gave me a Nil response). I’m teaching it about Graeme.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:12 pm

Even when Numbers was at his most annoying…. he was just another human being making a fool of himself… revving you guys up… He had his story …

But the way you guys just piled in … ?

even if his contentions about you all were misplaced , you guys went on , page after page, to make his case for him …

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:12 pm

I can’t imagine the lack of sanity or appetite for chaos and drama a person would have to have by baiting a forum supported by a lot of Jews after 7/10, picking a fight with everyone and possibly BW and then also being in cahoots with Bird and Col Batshit Bazi from the nudge unit.

What a truly bitter person. A left-wing Roy Cohn.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 7:12 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
November 3, 2023 7:12 pm

Instead of preselecting Ian Cook for Mulgrave, they’ve instead gone for Prosciutto’s policy adviser.

Victoriastan Lieborals. Never letting success stand in their way.

Tom
Tom
November 3, 2023 7:12 pm

it’s a club for the ‘in’ people- not even particularly interested in winning government it seems

The Filth and the Rich Bitches have figured out how to control every second federal government with 10% of the popular vote — nirvana for anti-democratic fascists.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 7:14 pm

Thanks for that contribution, Dot . Numbers etc. He was a troll but deserves understanding etc

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:17 pm

Also … despite what is being said… I am not trying to “rev you up” .. I never have … I am a student of propaganda … I just like to see what the dispersement looks like…. I have no opinions.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 3, 2023 7:20 pm

Indolent
Nov 3, 2023 6:55 PM
As Fuel Runs Out in Gaza for Civilians, Hamas Has Huge Stockpile

Blow it up.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:21 pm

Zafiro
Nov 3, 2023 7:14 PM

Thanks for that contribution, Dot . Numbers etc. He was a troll but deserves understanding etc

You are now claiming you ghostwrote his autobiography.

You are just here to cause trouble for the blog and write things here that can get the blog shut down by the e Safety Commission regime or at least cause Dover financial disadvantage (or shut it down).

Really you should have an AVO made against you. You have persistently harassed people here with a litany of bullshit personas. What you are doing is skirting close to fraud under s 192E (1) (b) of the Crimes Act NSW (deceptively or dishonestly causing any financial disadvantage).

You are also doing this knowing full well how wrong and borderline illegal it is.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 7:21 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 7:22 pm
Rabz
November 3, 2023 7:24 pm

Bird, who is using the identity of an imaginary third party

Again.

OK – it really does appear that various socks, trolls and other real or imagined personages are now starting to manifest themselves bigly.

Should be a very entertaining Friday night, Cats! 🙂

Winston Smith
November 3, 2023 7:25 pm

Real Deal:

They used to call it the Creature Feature in the 70s.

Ernie Sigley!

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:25 pm

I just see History as an uncontrolled tumult … so much fanatisism … it is like watching a turbulent creek stream in Tazzie when I was a nipper. Why does that slice of water flow in that direction and another another? I couldn’t figure it out then and still cant..

cohenite
November 3, 2023 7:26 pm

Even when Numbers was at his most annoying…. he was just another human being making a fool of himself… revving you guys up… He had his story …

Numbers was and still is a piece of shit; a leftie who hates the country. I bet the bastard voted yes.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 7:27 pm

I am not a troll, or trying to shut this blog down, Dot, I sincerely appreciate what you had to say about Bob/Numbers, Chill mate.

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 7:27 pm

A man has one hundred dollars and you leave him with two dollars, that’s subtraction.

– Mae West

bespoke
bespoke
November 3, 2023 7:27 pm

Numbers etc. He was a troll but deserves understanding etc

No he doesn’t.

He was a hypocrite
Used his wife, kid as a shield.
Should not have been enywhere near the the most vulnerable of children.
Tried to exploit the brothhood of other diggers.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:29 pm

Mark Bolton
Nov 3, 2023 7:25 PM

I just see History as an uncontrolled tumult … so much fanatisism … it is like watching a turbulent creek stream in Tazzie when I was a nipper. Why does that slice of water flow in that direction and another another? I couldn’t figure it out then and still cant..

Read a physics book.

Such as

How to Teach Quantum Physics to Your Dog: Chad Orzel
General Relativity for Babies: Chris Ferrie
Quantum Physics for Babies: Chris Ferrie

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 7:30 pm

I believe in censorship. I made a fortune out of it.

– Mae West

Marty
November 3, 2023 7:31 pm

Do strikings still happen?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 3, 2023 7:31 pm

Will mater come out of retirement? Hope it’s btetter than Ghostbusters 2.

cohenite
November 3, 2023 7:31 pm

Mark discovers stochastic properties.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 7:33 pm

like watching a turbulent creek stream in Tazzie

Must not make any cheap tacky comments about maps of Taxmania, I tells ya … 😕

Tom
Tom
November 3, 2023 7:33 pm

Numbers was and still is a piece of shit;

Like the ABC, Numbers is a creation of Australia’s Big Government, where taxes are used to destroy the free market. Never had a job in the real economy and couldn’t get one because he doesn’t understand what’s required — the ultimate communist parasite.

Razey
Razey
November 3, 2023 7:33 pm

Risitas on Aussie housing. He’s right you know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaLAVTpLJME

Roger
Roger
November 3, 2023 7:34 pm

I am just gobsmacked at the deceit and the gaslighting.

Outside of certain liberal enclaves, I don’t think many Americans will be buying it.

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 7:36 pm

Really you should have an AVO made against you. You have persistently harassed people here with a litany of bullshit personas. What you are doing is skirting close to fraud under s 192E (1) (b) of the Crimes Act NSW (deceptively or dishonestly causing any financial disadvantage).

Chill, Mr .

All you are achieving is proving their case and if you really want an echo chamber then use a private group on Whatsapp.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:36 pm


Nov 3, 2023 7:26 PM

“Numbers was and still is a piece of shit” Absolutely …

But did you people give him any reason to consider another perspective… ?

Hey maybe you did but I ~scrolled~ by all of that.

All it ever was was invective…

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 7:38 pm

Sad. But this is where we are.

Jikkyleaks
@Jikkyleaks

It’s time to rest this account.

It has been a hard road fighting against corrupt entities that I never knew existed to such an extent in the halls of power. And against the relentless propaganda that has seemingly usurped most if not all of academia and medicine.

This account came about because I knew that we had been lied to in February 2020 about the origin of COVID and with the help of others we were able to prove it.

Since that time there has been a pyre of lies that we have had to unpick, whilst showing ourselves to be the ones that endeavoured to uphold the values of real science that required the pursuit of truth over politics and corruption.

The time is right to retire now because two things have happened.

The first is that the public is now becoming aware not only of what is true, but how to discern what is truth against that which is untrue. I believe that was my task and much of that work has been done.

The second is that the threats against me from groups with proven ties to pharma lobby groups have intensified. The people involved know who they are and they attempt to justify their activity by creating a bogeyman story directed at us. But that’s all it is. When the dust settles and the horrendous death tally is finally counted, the people that will be most responsible are those that used their unlimited resources (supported by pharma corporations and corrupted government departments with unlimited funds and power) to silence those of us whose only crime was to highlight scientifically evidenced dangers to the public about interventions that could – and did – cause death and disability.

Those groups – mainly #shotsheard in the US and #muttoncrew in the UK with their groupies on social media, all coordinated through a central point – are merely an extension of the same groups that did exactly the same things 20 years ago in relation to Vioxx (where 30,000 people died because doctors and scientists were threatened into silence) and before that thalidomide (where 20,000 children were born without limbs because doctors and scientists were threatened into silence).

We care about this but the majority of the public and the government appear not to. There are no resources available to us and the government – who many of you trusted – have never offered any resources or protection to accounts such as ours or the people behind them. On the contrary they have shown – in the US, UK, Europe, Canada and Australia – that they will be the ones to silence us. In some cases they have threatened to imprison us.

The public remain quiet. Anger is brewing but the government and media will ensure that that anger is directed at us – the very people who showed you where corruption and malfeasance exist in establishments that should be above reproach. I predict that there will be no public protests to “protect medical whistleblowers” or “bring back Jikkyleaks”. There will for instance be no public protest at the supreme court in Victoria where @realMarkHobart will be fighting for the right of a doctor to protect the fundamental and global right to bodily autonomy of patients. There will be no clamour for the pharma-affiliated bully organisations to be prosecuted for what they have done for the last 20 years. Nobody was jailed for Vioxx – or thalidomide – because the public did not demand that they were.

The media played the biggest part. They universally disparaged people as “antivaxxers” who merely wanted to retain their human rights as declared in the UN declaration on human rights. Instead they protected the very people who created this pandemic (and by extension previous pandemics). And more importantly they failed to give any voice to those of us with scientific and medical expertise who tried to raise concerns and advocate merely for the retention of the human right to bodily autonomy.

Instead, the media gave a platform to the likes of David Gorski, Tony Fauci, Albert Bourla and Peter Daszak as if they were saints instead of the face of a global biomedical mafia. Their support group of minions who threaten scientists and non-scientists, scouring their personal files and tracking their homes, children and employers know who they are. So do I. Everything is archived.

The result of this collusion between pharma, government and media (with minions acting on their behalf for a pittance in reward) was millions of deaths with not a sniff of culpability. This is not their first rodeo, but this time instead of 30,000 deaths it was 6 million and counting. And the general public never raised an eyebrow in criticism of the biomedical corporations and governmental and military entities responsible and acting in lockstep.

So the result will remain. 6 million deaths and counting this time. The next time will likely be more. And if the public again rely on the media without question to guide them through it will never stop. There is too much money to be made and power to be gained. Why would those involved stop when there was not a single protest at any regulator or any government or academic institution despite the fact that deaths were known to have occurred and been covered up with no transparency from government agencies – who should have been desperate to release every document they possess to prove to the people that they were above reproach.

The silencing of this account is just a symptom of a disease so insidious that cannot remain untreated. One person – or mouse – cannot treat this disease. I have served my time here as far as I possibly can and must now devote time to other avenues, for what they are worth.

But without the help of the public we cannot do any more. Apathy feeds corruption and only the public en masse can stop feeding it.

To those that have supported this account please now that I appreciate everything that you have done and many thousands, if not millions, either do already or will do so in time.

For now I will bow out. I will continue for the time being to interact with other accounts posts, replies and existing DMs. But there will be no more new posts, exposures or #Gates on this platform until real protections are put in place for whistleblowers.

Just one caveat.. if the threats directed at me or those around me persist or resurface, I will have no choice but to return.

Good night. God speed.
And may the #mousearmy continue its fight for truth and against corruption in science.

Muddy
Muddy
November 3, 2023 7:39 pm

Zafiro’s comment several nights ago about Israeli babies on Oct 7 was so extreme the blog owner removed it, along with the comments of several regulars who posted their reaction to it. Shortly afterwards, Zafiro paraphrased the same comment but minus the details, so he/she/it could claim it was innocuous and misinterpreted.

Regardless of who this ‘Zafiro’ is or is not, the human or machine behind it cannot be regarded as possessing any integrity. It’s up to the blog owner to decide what to do about it, but for what it’s worth, my opinion is that this character is a slow-working poison.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:39 pm

Alamak

I understand why you would say that, but:

Out of all of the successor forums to Catallaxyfiles, this is the most successful.
There are bitter clingers in other (not private) deserted forums who hate this place.
Racial vilification, libel and so on are reasons for Dover to have to shut down the blog either through litigation or law enforcement under the e-Safety Commissioner.

They’re not genuine about “a closed chat” – they want this place GONE and they’ve been at it for years, they despise many posters and they don’t understand it is a public space, but PRIVATE PROPERTY.

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 7:41 pm

Good get muddy. Good to see Dover isn’t allowing the worst of this as well. It also proves my assertions correct regarding intent of these clowns.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:46 pm

We cannot relinquish the discussion.. I met Ann Aly my Local member … on the doors of the Referendum .. she was all “Yes Yes Yes” and I was kinda “No” . But she isn’t stupid and worth a listen.

If we cannot make our ideas clear to those that think differently … politely …respectfully … and even if they walk away thinking we a wrong.

Are our ideas worth anything if all we do is scream at people ?

Rabz
November 3, 2023 7:46 pm

syphilis spudpeeler is a creation of Australia’s Big Stupid Government

What angered me the most (and still does) about syphilis spudpeeler is that he was a self confessed communist coward who endangered the lives of all the diggers who had the misfortune to have served beside him in that allegedly regrettable contretemps.

As an “unwilling conscript”, he should never have gone in the first place*.

A lengthy term in gaol would have sufficed.

*For example, Doug Walters and my brother in law both did longer terms of “nasho” as opposed to going to ‘nam, man. They were all given a choice. See also that fat simpering poof, Simon Townsend.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2023 7:46 pm

Ask Knuclke Dragger. He was in the Grunts

The pills are kicking in.

MatrixTransform
November 3, 2023 7:47 pm

I asked AI about The Cat and AI replied … speculation boners R us

Delta A
Delta A
November 3, 2023 7:49 pm

Why am I in moderation?

cohenite
November 3, 2023 7:50 pm

All it ever was was invective…

It was witty, insightful invective.

Bill P
Bill P
November 3, 2023 7:50 pm

I should hope not Speedbox.
You and I know the answer but most won’t I reckon.
Who cares anyway. Guilty of trivia

Marty
November 3, 2023 7:52 pm

It wasn’t “strikings”, it was “smitings”.

MatrixTransform
November 3, 2023 7:53 pm

Why am I in moderation?

fence-sitting with intent

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:54 pm


Nov 3, 2023 7:46 PM

“As an “unwilling conscript”, he should never have gone in the first place*. ”

and would have been worse than useless. The men I knew coming out of that sorry conflict , I was ten years too young…

Once they hit the jungle they soon knew what was what … To survive that and be remotely useful took guts, manliness and intelligence.

I am immensely proud of the men who actually “served” in that conflict.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 7:54 pm

“smitings”

“Smote”, singular in the past tense.

cohenite
November 3, 2023 7:57 pm

I didn’t know that. The only reason the slime bag jack smith has and can indict Trump for with holding documents is because the grub biden removed Trump’s executive privilege.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 7:58 pm


Nov 3, 2023 7:46 PM

Also five years ago I went to Vietnam …got to speak to some Old Blokes… “You Aussies did nothing to be ashamed of” … You were fair and worthy ..

Made me swell with pride.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:00 pm

and would have been worse than useless

An indisputable fact he had the gall to proudly essay in his hugely unbought bargain bin tome.

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 8:03 pm

Delta A
Nov 3, 2023 7:49 PM
Why am I in moderation?

Cos’ it’s your turn for moderation.

Marty
November 3, 2023 8:04 pm

“smitings”

“Smote”, singular in the past tense.</em

A plural gerund perhaps?

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:05 pm

I went to Hue … said a prayer whilst looking at the Perfume River … and God actually spoke back to me … not often this happens.

Muddy
Muddy
November 3, 2023 8:07 pm

From cohenite’s link above:

Here’s what happened:

1. Biden asked NARA to remove Trump’s executive privilege over documents
2. NARA granted it
3. Biden declared documents reclassified
4. Biden used new classification to order Mar-A-Lago raid

What the…?
Am I reading that correctly? (It’s a tweet, so that’s not to say it’s true, but if it is …. Fondle.My.Donkey.)

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 3, 2023 8:09 pm

LOL Simon Townsend was never allowed on the TV in my house, even by my mum when dad was on exercise in the field or at work, so I guess she silently disapproved as well of him.

Wonder how many other children of Viet Vets have similar experiences.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:11 pm

Anyway, enough – wasting time and energy denouncing that foul soft ol’ communist coward (again) is pointless.

He continues to exist in his own nightmarish mental prison cell, which is all he deserves.

You can make one key decision in your life and get it right, or you can be a guilt ridden failure for the remainder of it.

My ol’ man: Made the correct decision in late ’42 (to volunteer as soon as he was able)
syphilis spudpeeler: Made many, many very, very wrong decisions throughout the entirety of his pointless existence – and presumably, but hopefully not, is still doing so

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 8:12 pm

Simon Townsend was a draft dodger IIRC.

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 8:14 pm

Dot> appreciate your views on content shared to the site, some comments lately have been distressing and uncalled for. Apart from the removed comments I don’t see anything posted recently thats worthy of e-safety interest, but I’m not a specialist in Oz online censoring etc.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:15 pm

@Rockdoctor
Nov 3, 2023 8:09 PM

Well when I was in Vietrnam I got the opportunity to speak to “other children of Viet Vets” … they were of a mind to let the Dead Rest in Peace.

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 8:17 pm

A plural gerund perhaps?

Smitten?

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 8:17 pm

God actually spoke back to me … not often this happens.

So what did you say to God for him to speak back to you? Anything important?

And how many times have you spoken to God when he hasn’t answered?

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 3, 2023 8:18 pm

I think I saw Bezos has now changed his state of residence to Florida.
I was reading how so many major DNC donors no longer reside – officially – in NY or CA.
Pack of hypocrites.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:19 pm

@Johnny Rotten
Nov 3, 2023 8:17 PM

“God actually spoke back to me … not often this happens.”

Ask Him yourself…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 8:22 pm

Simon Townsend was a draft dodger IIRC.

Simon Townsend was flung into the military prison at Holsworthy. It was his account of conditions there that led to an end to the practice of detaining civilian conscientious objectors in military prisons.

MatrixTransform
November 3, 2023 8:23 pm

Smitten?

Smited

d’Overlord let loose justice divine and verily they were smited

not smitten, even though they secretly loved every second of it

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:24 pm

simon townsend was a draft dodger IIRC

He could have shut his big ugly trap and done two years Nasho or he could have tried to make himself a braindead vacuous lamestream meeja whore “cause célèbre”.

No prizes for guessing which.

Normie Rowe for example, decided a year in ‘Nam was preferable to two years Nasho.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 3, 2023 8:26 pm

1. Biden asked NARA to remove Trump’s executive privilege over documents
2. NARA granted it
3. Biden declared documents reclassified
4. Biden used new classification to order Mar-A-Lago raid

If Assange ever makes it to a US court room, you should see what he’s facing.
Months ago, Greenwald outlined the process.
There will be parts of the trial where Assange & his lawyer will not even be allowed to hear certain testimony let alone question witnesses.
Most likely it will be a closed caught & all evidence given in camera & sealed for 99 years.
It literally will be a secret trial.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:27 pm

Smitten?

With an ample eyebrowed Kitten, presumably. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 3, 2023 8:28 pm

Conscription is a ridiculous concept.
I prefer to go back to Caesarian armies where soldiers were given a slice of the booty after a successful campaign.

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 8:30 pm

smited, smit and smitten all work in past tense according to the bluffers online dictionary a.k.a. chat gpt

good that I learned a new word today …

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:30 pm

@
Rabz
Nov 3, 2023 8:24 PM

None of those blokes would have lasted ten minutes in Vietnam… nor would the blokes that came home heros (and I loved) from Vietnem … have lasted ten minutes in the jungle if not for the training they got from WWII blokes who also had to contend with the jungle..

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 8:32 pm

Mark Bolton
Nov 3, 2023 8:19 PM

You fruit loop. I’m asking you.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:35 pm

Conscription is a ridiculous concept

Yes, it is.

As are Mercenaries.

Not that it matters, I’ll look on in amusement at this country ever trying to mobilise some semblance of an armed force ever again.

We’ve gobbled the shiny goodies en masse and forgotten about the ultimate payoff.

The softer you get, you more extinct you become.

Those who ignore history are condemned to relive it.

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 8:38 pm

I prefer to go back to Caesarian armies where soldiers were given a slice of the booty after a successful campaign.

Romans relied on conscription also, though many cut off their thumbs to avoid service. Tougher times than now.

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 8:38 pm

feelthebern
Nov 3, 2023 8:28 PM
Conscription is a ridiculous concept.
I prefer to go back to Caesarian armies where soldiers were given a slice of the booty after a successful campaign.

The Vietcong did that and got the booty. In Vietnam they call it “The American War” BTW.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:41 pm

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Rabz
Nov 3, 2023 8:35 PM

“Conscription is a ridiculous concept”

Have you ever read “About Face” by Colonel David H. Hackworth.. he rhinks conscription is a brilliant idea , and no let out if Mummy and Daddy are loaded … That way the only wars America fights are the ones the folks back home believe in …

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
November 3, 2023 8:42 pm

The crisis is ongoing with RepTrak’s ‘signal’ of a reputation crisis remaining and customer perceptions on key drivers more than 10 points lower than a year ago,” the presentation, also marked confidential, reads.

Here’s the thing Qantas… stop pi$$ing money down the tubes on whoever or whatever “RepTrak” is and actually start, I don’t know, serving customers.

I’m sure the guys and gals at RepTrak are just earning a living, and I’m even happy to stipulate that they do a good job.

The fact that they get any business at all is a sad indictment on corporate culture. It says “We have no idea of who our customers are or what they thinking,… we can outsource that”.

No, you can’t.

pete of perth
pete of perth
November 3, 2023 8:44 pm

Re Vietnam service. Dad was in the RAN (58 – 87). When posted to Canberra (73 – 75) was advised not to wear a uniform on public transport. I assume to avoid antagonising the anti-war mob.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:48 pm

I’m so sick of hipsters*, Cats

*although funnily enough, no one seems to mention them anymore … 😕

Johnny Rotten
November 3, 2023 8:48 pm

I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.

– Mae West

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 8:49 pm

That way the only wars America fights are the ones the folks back home believe in

Vietnam went on for quite a while, not sure conscription did much to reduce public support in first 5 years or so.

Speaking of the American War – A bright, shining lie was the first major book I read on that war and it provided the context on who went to war and how the social classes are reflected in how USA fought the war. A great book.

cohenite
November 3, 2023 8:51 pm

I prefer to go back to Caesarian armies where soldiers were given a slice of the booty after a successful campaign.

The slice of the booty is coming back to live in the best country, as it once was, in the world.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:52 pm

@
pete of perth
Nov 3, 2023 8:44 PM

I was only a nipper then but that was disgusting… Sure Hate the War but the people that were put into service … no way ..

In the same way as civilians are supposed to be sanitized from conflict … so are those that wear a uniform and comply with the Law of War … they were not complicit in bringing to conflict to fruition ? They were mostly very young.

And even “If Not” …

Muddy
Muddy
November 3, 2023 8:57 pm

Marks and Spencer Christmas Advert – Andrew Lawrence’s take.

I think it was Cassie several days ago who posted a link to U.K. comedian Andrew Lawrence’s excoriation of the Met. Police.

His most recent is less than 4 minutes in length, and if you can look past the awful colour grading, stick around to the end for his forthright opinion, which I’m surprised hasn’t seen him arrested yet.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 8:57 pm

!
Nov 3, 2023 8:49 PM

Yes I have heard of it but confess I never read “A Bright Shining Lie” … I must redress this… Thank You for your Kindness.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 8:59 pm

Bolto – Hackworth is a true hero.

A warrior poet*, so to speak … 😕

*Of the Vogons’ Ouvre

P
P
November 3, 2023 9:02 pm

The war against the Jewish people and the west
Melanie Phillips -1 hr ago

It’s as if both Stalin and Hitler are being afforded a posthumous victory

I gave some talks in America over the past weekend. What follows is a composite of what I said in them.

Excerpts:

The agenda of Hamas and its puppet-master Iran is very clear. Destroy Israel, genocide against the Jews, and then wipe out the Christian west and all unbelievers. We know this is their agenda because they say so. Repeatedly.

The greater shock, however, has been the reaction to this of an enormous number of people in the west.

There have been shocking scenes in British, American and Australian cities of massive and mostly Muslim mobs celebrating the mass murder of Jews and calling for more. Among the non-Jewish population, this genocidal hysteria is being viewed by millions more with indifference or even support, especially among the young.

Antisemitism is rampant throughout the Islamic world. This is ignored by the west, which also doesn’t understand antisemitism and thinks it’s just another form of racism rather than a uniquely deranged, paranoid and murderous creed.

.

Israel will win this battle — at terrible cost — because it is determined to survive. It fights because it understands what it is fighting for. The Jews know what they are because they are bound together as one through their roots in an ancient history; they love and value their own people and their nation; and they have risen up as one to defend them to the death. This is not true of the west, which seems instead to have decided to go the way of ancient Rome.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:03 pm


Nov 3, 2023 8:59 PM

Yes … I only just began to understand Geopolitics when I read “Hack … it was only then that any of it began to make any sence..

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:06 pm

Hey it is 18:00 here in WA ..isnt it about time we just kick back and get proper drunk and share some music?

Rabz
November 3, 2023 9:14 pm

Bolto – are you an aficionado of the works of the Vogons?

Eye watering stuff.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 3, 2023 9:14 pm

pete of perth
Nov 3, 2023 8:44 PM
Re Vietnam service. Dad was in the RAN (58 – 87). When posted to Canberra (73 – 75) was advised not to wear a uniform on public transport. I assume to avoid antagonising the anti-war mob.

AKA the Whitless government?

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:14 pm

I firstly went to Brian Eno “French girls” he apparently got some action but me? Hey not so much …

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:18 pm


Nov 3, 2023 9:14 PM

Definiltely !!! Adams never translated from radio to TV .and I fear the Vogons translated into never became remotely audible …. oops No I just said that like it was a bad thing…

But it is music time …

rosie
rosie
November 3, 2023 9:22 pm
Rabz
November 3, 2023 9:26 pm
Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:27 pm

Old Mate wrote much better songs than this …. dont ever try to red any of his Science Fiction Novels … they are just a waste of time …

Hey best I could do at such short notice….

https://youtu.be/aBu9WGTCc6Q

Rabz
November 3, 2023 9:33 pm
Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:34 pm


Nov 3, 2023 9:26 PM
you just rescued me from utter doom .. A flawless female voice might even possible lure me from the grave…

But Nina Hagen ? she can drag us any where she wants …

https://youtu.be/v-YzdvmD2aQ?list=RDMM

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 9:39 pm

Second sobering up centre to open in St Kilda for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people

A second sobering-up centre will open in Melbourne next week, with this site exclusively for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.

From the “Hun.”

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:42 pm

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Nov 3, 2023 9:39 PM

sounds good Brudda but what about a gettin pissed place ? Eh ?

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 9:44 pm

Yeah Mushroom hag invited ex Hubby to the fatal lunch, but he declined.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 9:46 pm

Let’s have some 1989 writ large, Cats:

You have to fight the powers that be, I tells ya!

Don’t stop … 😕

Rabz
November 3, 2023 9:52 pm

Modern Oz – we aren’t just blessed with imported psychopathic moozley imbeciles (BIRM) but regional hausfrauen with wunderbar mushroom recipes! 🙂

To die for. 😕

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 9:53 pm

@Zafiro
Nov 3, 2023 9:44 PM

Since I wasnt on the jury and havent seen all the evidence …

Amanita phalloides is one mushroom me and my enthusiastic young wild food (tripping) seekers would have avoided plain as day …but I am not on the jury …

Winston Smith
November 3, 2023 9:53 pm

Johanna

As a kid, I only wore shoes to school and when compelled to, like visiting my parents’ friends. And it was not because my parents couldn’t afford them. I just hated them, and my soles were capable of walking over oyster shells on the rocks without me feeling a twinge.
That never changed. I only ever wear shoes when I have to, never at home (thick socks or slippers in winter.)

Explorer socks rule.
I divorced one of my wives for wearing them with thongs.
Egad!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 3, 2023 9:55 pm

When posted to Canberra (73 – 75) was advised not to wear a uniform on public transport.

Same in the 1980’s in Sydney. Never saw dad wear a uniform to work though he had the only car we owned at the time.

Apparently told to start wearing ribbon bar as well by his superiors early on at one posting after the war ended.

After the Canberra reunion in 1989 was when I saw the change outside of privacy like our home. Still remember the porky seven pigs motifs though, that he never hid.

Gabor
Gabor
November 3, 2023 10:03 pm

Well, I never used my scroll wheel as much as I did this last half hour.
But catching up with the day’ postings was at least fast.

Mark Bolton
November 3, 2023 10:04 pm

Bamboo sock are the best .. and if you work FIFO , pink ones are the best , no one will dare steal them .. just that they take forever to dry

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 10:11 pm

As a kid, I only wore shoes to school and when compelled to, like visiting my parents’ friends

I’m trying not to sound like the Four Yorkshiremen, but the A.D.F. gave me the first new pair of shoes I ever owned.

Frank
Frank
November 3, 2023 10:21 pm

Dr Faustus
Nov 3, 2023 6:46 PM

For historical reasons it would be unwise for the Israelis to start using gas against their foes. Regardless of the efficacy, the luvvies on the Sunday talk shows would lather themselves into an orgy of smug carrying on about the optics of it all.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 3, 2023 10:26 pm

Spent my childhood between Sydney, Brisbane and Victoria. I was barefoot everywhere I could be much to mums protests and still have scars on my undersoles to boot. As mentioned above certain seasons involved bindi’s and searing concrete/roads, then footwear was donned or very quick visual recognition of the lawns who hadn’t been sprayed.

I grew out of it but if a blow in like Squalid wants to have a chop at us Anglos about it he can go somewhere else to his liking, say like Egypt.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 10:27 pm

Death Cap mushrooms they are called in Gippsland where they are native, Mark. Look a bit like Gold Caps , but mushie heads would know the difference,

Rabz
November 3, 2023 10:33 pm

This is Tim Schmuckley – with his most legendary song.

Whether we like it or not, Cats, Goils are not going to be willingly Hausfrauen any time soon.

This is a good thang.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 10:36 pm

Hey, Pallyweirdos – meet your avenging angel

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 10:37 pm

Senator Rennick:

The clip just epitomises the arrogance of the bureaucracy.

The Secretary of the Environment and Infrastructure Department complained about answering 400 questions on notice from the last set of estimates in his opening statement.

On further questioning it turns out that there are 2000 staff in his department and they have around 4-6 weeks to answer Questions on Notice.
That works out at about one question for every five staff, of which 100 are on over $200,000.

The bureaucrats in Canberra aren’t only ideologically flawed, they are incredibly self-entitled.

(The head honcho guy is on $928,340 p.a.)

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 10:39 pm

Since I wasnt on the jury and havent seen all the evidence …

Amanita phalloides is one mushroom me and my enthusiastic young wild food (tripping) seekers would have avoided plain as day …but I am not on the jury …

This reeks of week-old parrot cage newspaper.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 10:41 pm
Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 10:41 pm

Yeah great song by the old Schmuckley. Swim to me!

Dot
Dot
November 3, 2023 10:44 pm

The PM and Chief Justice are on a salary of roughly 587k each.

The Secretary of the Environment and Infrastructure Department is on 928k.

Un-friggin believable.

Indolent
Indolent
November 3, 2023 10:44 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 3, 2023 10:46 pm

Mentioned earlier today, but (the Hun):

A second sobering-up centre will open in St Kilda when public drunkenness is decriminalised next week.

The six-bed site, the second facility for metropolitan Melbourne, will operate exclusively for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Oh my word. Apartheid via pisswreckery.

Ngwala Willumbong Aboriginal Corporation has been appointed to deliver services at the facility.

The program will operate 24 hours a day and will be staffed by outreach workers, alcohol and other drug support workers, and Aboriginal health practitioners and nurses.

There will be no rorting of this, whatsoever.

A single new 20-bed facility in Collingwood, managed by charity cohealth, will be responsible for responding to incidents across metropolitan Melbourne.

However construction delays mean the facility won’t open until later this month.

In the meantime, a six-bed trial site that has been operating in Collingwood will respond to incidents.

So according to VicGovernment, it will all be dandy because in a city of almost six million people, only 12 will be so shitfaced at any one time that they become dangers to themselves and others, and all of those 12 will be taken – by consent – to handpatter shelters where they will be no trouble whatsoever.

As the lowland Scottish would say – Brillo.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 10:54 pm

For historical reasons it would be unwise for the Israelis to start using gas against their foes

There’s a certain amount of uncouth chortling going on at the images that situation would give rise to…

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 10:56 pm

Mate of mine went to a dry out facility in Horsham. This is back in the 90s. Caught crabs. Dirty sheets etc.

cohenite
November 3, 2023 11:01 pm

After due consideration I have decided that the marriage proposals in Moonstruck run a tight second to the final proposal in P&P 2005:

1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1-1hP0LDAE

2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmwqKY9BX0

Rabz
November 3, 2023 11:08 pm

Mick and Keef, back from the figurative dead …

Let’s have some Hollyweird T’n’A 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 11:10 pm

Dutton accused of stoking division, kicking underdog

By jess malcolm
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@jessmalcolm1
10:00PM November 3, 2023
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Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek has launched a deeply personal attack on Peter Dutton, saying he is a man whose life mission is to block progress, stoke division and “kick the underdog when they’re down”.

Ms Plibersek, who is viewed as an alternative Labor leader when Anthony Albanese eventually steps aside, is ­expected to launch a character assassination on the Opposition Leader in a keynote speech at the West Australian Labor conference on Saturday.

She will argue Mr Dutton has spent his entire political career driven by “the poisonous politics of no” and failed to search for compromise in the national ­interest. She will say he boycotted the “basic standards of human decency” when he walked out on former prime minister Kevin Rudd’s apology to the Stolen Generations.

“It’s always the poisonous politics of no,” Ms Plibersek will say. “A politics that can only ­destroy and corrode, that can only tear things down, but can never build things up. And that is the thread that runs through Peter Dutton’s entire career in public life. This is a man who boycotted Kevin Rudd’s apology to the Stolen Generations. Boycotting, in the process, basic standards of human decency.”

Ms Plibersek will also accuse Mr Dutton of weaponising the politics of no to his own advantage and argue Australians will “see through the ­destructive force that is Peter Dutton”.

“These are the positions of a certain kind of politician. One who sees weakness in empathy, power in negativity, political ­advantage in division.

“A man who seeks to reach the highest position in Australian government by killing people’s faith in government. Australians want our leaders to act constructively.”

Last year, Ms Plibersek was forced to “unreservedly” apologise for comparing Mr Dutton to Voldemort. Anthony Albanese said Ms Plibersek had made a “mistake” likening Mr Dutton to the Harry Potter villain.

“It shouldn’t have been said, we all make mistakes from time to time,” the Prime Minister said.

Ms Plibersek’s attack on Mr Dutton comes amid expectations Mr Albanese will launch a negative campaign against the Opposition Leader.

Ms Plibersek and Mr Albanese have shared an uneasy relationship after she signalled during the 2013 Labor leadership contest she would be willing to be deputy leader to Bill Shorten.

Left faction MPs believe this swung the pendulum in favour of Mr Shorten and cost Mr Albanese the leadership at that time.

In her speech on Saturday, Ms Plibersek will also warn the Greens against siding with Mr Dutton to “let that poison clog the arteries of government”.

What make me think the Labor Part is getting worried?

Frank
Frank
November 3, 2023 11:10 pm

Mushroom chef was ‘eccentric genius’

Turns out Erin Patterson was an air traffic controller as well as a gourmand. You would hope they had the science to identify unstable people in critical roles like that.

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 11:16 pm

Yeah KD, that place in Collingwood has been on the news a bit lately. Woke YES voter types are against it. They are normally into that shit. as long as it is out in the western suburbs somewhere

Rabz
November 3, 2023 11:16 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 3, 2023 11:25 pm

For historical reasons it would be unwise for the Israelis to start using gas against their foes. Regardless of the efficacy, the luvvies on the Sunday talk shows would lather themselves into an orgy of smug carrying on about the optics of it all.

Obviously.

However, it’s not an issue.
Hamas is never about to let hostages free from its tunnels while Israel is engaged.

I imagine that Israeli public might see some poetic justice in Hamas terrorist moles being blinded and burned and having their lungs burst or scorched by the equivalent of a coal mine gas explosion.
But hostages as collateral, dying horribly at IDF hands?

Rabz
November 3, 2023 11:27 pm

I get away everyday

As essayed by li’l Miss Brunette hot pants … 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 3, 2023 11:27 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/11/the-hamas-covenant-in-action.html

Oh, you mighty warriors of Allah! Oh, you heroes for Hamas! I hope you die slow and painful deaths at the hands of the I.D.F., and are buried with a dead pig for company, in the hereafter!

Zafiro
Zafiro
November 3, 2023 11:27 pm

Air traffic control. Yeah obviously petty clever the mushroom woman.

Frank
Frank
November 3, 2023 11:32 pm

No. Jews, gas. Not a good association for the IDF to be messing around with.

Rabz
November 3, 2023 11:43 pm

Miss Aguilera – about as blessed as it gets … 🙂

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 11:48 pm

A few more toons from the best Buckley album (“Greetings from LA”)

Move with me
Make it right again
Hong Kong bar

“She was drinking alone, what a waste of sin …”

Alamak!
November 3, 2023 11:58 pm

What make me think the Labor Part is getting worried?

Xmas is coming early for the Labor party and someone named tanya might be getting a shiny new leadership when Elbow retires due to “health reasons” or some other lie.

Arky
November 4, 2023 12:05 am

Looks like their f*cked up vaccines, totalitarianism and shutdowns, lock-ins and mandates killed somewhere around 10,000 Aussies in 2022:
https://www.actuaries.digital/2023/03/06/almost-20000-excess-deaths-for-2022-in-australia/

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 4, 2023 12:07 am

Plibbers knows it’s killing season.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 4, 2023 6:59 am

Israel has not shut down hospitals but Hamas have used them as centres of war. International aid is getting through, but in small amounts to stop Hamas having it. Supermarkets are still open in Gaza. The bomb didn’t go off in a ‘refugee camp’ but in a suburban area harbouring Hamas terrorists where civilians had been warned by Israel to leave and stopped by Hamas from doing so. Hamas is a death cult, wanting martyrs. Get informed, Andrew.

I wrote this in response to ‘Andrew’, who said that Israel was deliberately bombing hospitals and civilian areas, shutting them down, and ‘even attacking a refugee camp’.

My comment was held ‘pending for 15 hours’ and now, 19 hours later, it is ‘rejected’.

The Oz doen’t like to publish a truthful rebuttal to a piece of Hamas propaganda mouthed by a Hamas sympathiser on their pages. Tell you a lot, I think.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 4, 2023 6:53 pm

Dominoes in the clear. Bunch of people are human fecal Karchers.

Very much a ” stop when you have something furry in your mouth, it’s your asshole” virus

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