Open Thread – Mon 17 June 2024


A Blacksmith’s Shop, Joseph Wright, 1771

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 10:04 am
Reply to  Indolent

I think it’s about time we realised the Biden Administration has gone rogue, and the entire thing needs to be shut down.
This is the reason the second amendment was put in place.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 11:13 am
Reply to  Indolent

This is the progressives infesting the Biden administration once again proving that they cannot be trusted not to abuse the power loaned to them by the people.

They are in fact “why we can’t have nice things”, like trust in the national legal system.

mem
mem
June 18, 2024 9:05 am

Only 4% wind energy being generated across the NEM and 14% solar at 9am EST. A piddling output for $ billions already spent. Albanese and Bowen will sink more billions into the renewables black hole hoping to make it work and gambling against the odds with taxpayer’s money.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 18, 2024 9:06 am

Fuk I loathe Starmer. The very model of a modern pollimuppet. Another effing lawyer too.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

And when Boris Johnson chipped him for being the DPP who didn’t prosecute Jimmy Savile (which was perfectly true), ‘respectable’ opinion was outraged.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 18, 2024 6:19 pm
Reply to  Old Lefty

interesting

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 9:08 am

Courts & JusticeCrimeWA News

Garry Narkle: Notorious serial rapist slapped with new historic sex offence charges, ‘fears dying in jail’
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Mon, 17 June 2024 1:23PM

WA’s most notorious rapist Garry Narkle has been slapped with new charges alleging historical sex offending.
The 69-year-old was jailed for a decade without parole in 2010 for raping a homeless man in his caravan.
But he has remained behind bars under High Risk Sex Offender legislation passed through State Parliament in 2020, which broadened and replaced the Dangerous Sexual Offenders Act 2006.
Narkle was the central inspiration for that initial bill, labelled a “serial sex monster” in Parliament by former State attorney-general Jim McGinty after being convicted of sex offences against 14 women and girls over three decades.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 18, 2024 10:36 am

That’s the turd that raped my sister in law when she was a kid. Jammed a stick up her vagina and she nearly died of blood loss.
Freed to prey on dozens, maybe hundreds more.
There is no way I’ll be convinced the legal system is serious about protecting the public while excrement like Narkle are repeatedly freed over and over

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 9:13 am

2dogs

 June 18, 2024 7:42 am

Waiting for the LGT&ABC (Labor Greens Teals & ABC) fightback against Dutton and Nuclear Power.

It’s all based on having the CSIRO and AEMO tell lies about nuclear power, and then using those lies to brand nuclear supporters as anti-science.

It’s astounding how quickly CSIRO and BOM have lost legitimacy with the public, it only took four or five years. We used to trust CSIRO so much we made their diet book a bestseller. These days we expect them to lie about everything, science be damned.

As for BOM, we take delight in pointing out their failed weather forecasts. In the past, before they decided to hide or change the historical temperature and rainfall records, we gave them the benefit of the doubt. Now we assume everything they publish is in order to further their ideological convictions, meteorology be damned.

duncanm
duncanm
June 18, 2024 4:47 pm
Reply to  Crossie

I continue to be amazed by the extent of their wrongology. There’s no science or learning applied to their long range forecasts, which seem to be completely mired in climate fantacism.

March to May 3 month maximum temperature outlook – 80% chance across the entire continent of exceeding the median.

Actual numbers – large swathes of the country bang on median decile, or for NE WA and W NT, lowest on record.

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 9:31 am

mem

 June 18, 2024 9:05 am

Only 4% wind energy being generated across the NEM and 14% solar at 9am EST. A piddling output for $ billions already spent. Albanese and Bowen will sink more billions into the renewables black hole hoping to make it work and gambling against the odds with taxpayer’s money.

Just think the amount of national infrastructure that could have been built with the billions in subsidies and contracts handed out to billionaire* friends of politicians. Upgrading of national highways, airports, railways for a start. Fortifying and modernising our defence capabilities, paying benefits and settling compensation claims of all veterans would have been the smartest moves.

*Makes me wonder if they are friends because they are billionaires or they became billionaires because they had politicians as friends.

billie
billie
June 18, 2024 9:36 am

ABC RN news this morning had a report on a climate coalition preparing to field “independent” candidates in conservative seats at the federal election, with a focus on QLD.

“Independent” climate crusaders candidates, right

Lavenders?

Turquoisei?

Chartrousers?

What other colours do we have available for LGTs? (Labor Green Teals)

Oh lord, let it start with a B, then they could be LGBT and confusion would reign.

Blurple? No, too obvious, or maybe not

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 9:42 am

I see that mOnsters blog is thriving. The last post was in April. No idea what year.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 10:17 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Dillo, rumours of you being run over by a Model A must have been unfounded.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 11:32 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Is that his pseudo Cat, aka Phat Pussy, or the political blog, the name of which I forget?

Last edited 7 months ago by Boambee John
m0nty
m0nty
June 18, 2024 3:17 pm
Reply to  Armadillo

I am busy with the game I am developing. Just got the preview page up on Steam.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 9:44 am

What other colours do we have available for LGTs? 

Watermelon?

It’s a kind of pinkish-red.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 18, 2024 12:41 pm

Green on the outside, red on the inside.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 9:46 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/it-begins-kansas-sues-pfizer-state-alleges-company/

“Pfizer made multiple misleading statements to deceive the public about its vaccine at a time when Americans needed the truth,” said Kobach.

The wall is crumbling before us, in real time, stereo, HD Colour and 3D.
Watch and learn that you don’t need money or millions of followers to win – just the truth and perseverance.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 18, 2024 12:52 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

There will not be a victory, until every politician or unelected bureaucrat, that pushed these untested, experimental poisons onto Australians, are publicly guillotined.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 18, 2024 9:50 am

Blue-rinse
After all, that’s the loyal Greens-ABC demographic, despite throwing yoof shapes

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 9:52 am

Just think the amount of national infrastructure that could have been built with the billions in subsidies and contracts handed out to billionaire* friends of politicians.

Michael Cannon-Brookes is now listed as “Mike” on Wiki. He’s had to shorten his name, so things must be tough right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Cannon-Brookes

Either that or it’s some weird ploy to try and deflect attention from himself?

shatterzzz
June 18, 2024 9:58 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Probably, thinx it makes him ‘cooler” .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 9:59 am

Garry Narkle should have died in jail years ago – at the end of a rope.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 10:28 am

He should be let free. That way we can greet him at the gaol gates with a length of good English hemp rope.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 10:01 am
Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 11:14 am

Is he related to Biden or Kamala?

mem
mem
June 18, 2024 11:17 am

Well he got that one wrong. And he didn’t correct himself so he was unaware of the horrendous gaffe. No excuse. It was one name he should have been across. I don’t see him surviving for much longer as pm.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 11:23 am
Reply to  mem

My money is on Tanya Plibersek wielding the big knife.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 18, 2024 12:53 pm

Hey, 30% of Australians cannot be wrong!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 10:04 am

Only 4% wind energy being generated across the NEM and 14% solar at 9am EST. A piddling output for $ billions already spent.

A typical extremely Far Right nit pick.

Firstly, it’s cleverly designed synergy. 9AM is off-peak, so nobody actually wants any electricity at this time of day.

Secondly, once Snowy 2.0 is up and running, Australia will be the envy of Top Men everywhere.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 10:48 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Australia will be the envy of Top Men everywhere. Is that the same as Shane Wand being the best Treasurer in the world?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 12:09 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Even better.

shatterzzz
June 18, 2024 10:10 am

Amused by the “sad” tale of Birmingham, UK having to dim the street lights and cutback on other Council utility services cos gone bankrupt but also having the highest level of “city” unemployment in the UK ..
Yet for some reason the report never mentioned they also have one of the highest (if not the highest) level of ethnicity in the UK …..
I remember as a schoolkid growing up in County Durham in the 1950s the standard joke about Birmingham, even then ..
“It was a nice place to live before the whiteman came” ……

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 10:29 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

Could still afford to hold the Commonwealth Games. Unlike Melbourneibad.

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 18, 2024 10:33 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

Birmingham is pissing millions up the wall in a failing Oracle ERP implementation. It’s already 15 times over budget

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 10:13 am

This OT has the highest usage of the reply function to date. After all the naysayers said they didn’t like it, it is now being used. I wasn’t a naysayer, I said nothing but didn’t like it and still don’t. Its hard to see the number of replies. Having to go over the comments many times is bit of a pain but the replies this time in particular are worth the effort. The number of subjects covered amaze me. While I agree with so many commentators I have reservations with the same. This is to be expected as we can only view the world from our own perspective. Thank goodness I’m not a lefty having to tear down everything whilst not being able to build back, where have I heard that phrase? The left have no future as they have to keep destroying to rebuild. While I’m not religious I appreciate the foundations our civilisation is built on. Seems to me the the left forgot about the cluebat which is being swung allover as the elite with everything they have and never want for anything except total control. The left want the whole lot not satisfied with 1% gains. Changes are coming from the young people who have been indoctrinated in the schools yet have seen through the BS. I remember my kids at school, they saw through the leftist teachers and openly mocked them, the things they did believe have since changed as they’ve found out they were being lied to. Who was it that said something along the lines of you fool some people all the time, you can fool all the people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all of the time? I may have got a bit carried away but when you’re on a roll why stop.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 10:37 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

After all the naysayers said they didn’t like it, it is now being used.

It’s now being used because there’s no alternative.
I hate it. And yes I was one of the ones who wanted it, but experience has shown me that the format shuts replies down to minimal levels. Nested comments appear to work in small blogs, when they get to this size they collapse under their own weight.
Whereas, under the old format there were multiple >10 replies, they’re as rare as rocking horse shit now.
This format stifles the blog – all you have to do is look at the amount of comments.

Tom
Tom
June 18, 2024 10:46 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

I have come to enjoy the “reply” function.

It makes for a very complex and thoughtful blog, with lots of little back alleys (which you don’t have to take if that’s not what you want).

Thanks, Dover, for a clever use of the available software.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 10:59 am
Reply to  Tom

I read every reply to every comment, otherwise one misses half the blog experience. People tend to use the reply function as a replacement for the comment function.

I think people hit reply because it is just too difficult to scroll up to the top each time to make a separate comment and then wait to see it appear after a refresh.

Delta A
Delta A
June 18, 2024 11:06 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Great post, Ranga.

shatterzzz
June 18, 2024 10:14 am

What a joke the bloke, supposedly, in charge of Oz only sitz 4th on the wages scale …..
Plus 12 levels of gummint with no accountability to their employers, the vote-herd …… and only the top three listings require some sort of experience/expertise for the job .. the other 9 levels qualify thru brown-nozing ability … only … FFS!
?

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Aaron
Aaron
June 18, 2024 1:11 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

30 years in the trough plus pension etc.

Anal has probably had 10mil in salary plus perks.

What has the waste of space ever achieved for the public to make this a good use of money?

Should have been drowned in the toilet at uni.

Spineless,gutless and useless.

Last edited 7 months ago by Aaron
Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 1:24 pm
Reply to  Aaron

At least people voted for him whereas nobody voted for Glyn Davis. I am of the opinion that nobody in government should be paid more than the prime minister. You want a high salary go and work in private enterprise.

Aaron
Aaron
June 18, 2024 1:30 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Too many of these retards are having a lend regarding their value.

Anal, Shorten, Marles, Bowen, Giles etc.

It wouldn’t take much for Davis to be worth twice as much as this lot.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 10:18 am

“Mike” Cannnon-Brookes is the “Ten Percent for the Big Guy” in reverse. He spent $120 million on getting “The Teals” elected, and he got $1.2 billion as a subsidy from Albo in return.

Brilliant stuff. Albo snuck over the line, and 50% of the population who didn’t vote for him had to pay for it. Isn’t Democracy grand.

These people need to be in prison.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 10:39 am
Reply to  Armadillo
Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 11:03 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Do you mean Holmes a Court?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 18, 2024 10:20 am

Interesting case in Kansas and basically same happened in Australia. The population was sold a product based on false information and advertising. Pfizer may have immunity for any adverse events but surely that does not give them immunity from deception ?

“Pfizer made multiple misleading statements to deceive the public about its vaccine at a time when Americans needed the truth,” said Kobach”

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 10:58 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

What’s even more interesting to me is that the immunity from adverse effects in the US was sold to the public many moons ago based on the government establishing a program to pay the adverse effect claims.

The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

Which suddenly didn’t apply when it came to Covid-19 claims for which they invented another program. I haven’t examined them closely but I have my suspicions that the later one isn’t quite as responsive or “generous”.

Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program

Last edited 7 months ago by Zatara
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 11:07 am
Reply to  dover0beach

I’ve never played minecraft, so it went totally over my head.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 11:03 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

My kids and especially the grandkids all love it. It’s a build-your-own-experience kind of site.

Farage is going for the yoof vote with this, Even using the rapsta lingo of ‘greif’. Great work.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 10:23 am

If at first you don’t succeed try and try again.

One-third of primary school children in Vienna are Muslims, overtaking Catholics as largest religious group (17 Jun)

Paging a Mr Jan Sobieski!

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 1:27 pm

When you pay them to have children they will though it seems you can’t even pay the Austrians to have children.

Jock
Jock
June 18, 2024 2:36 pm

Hilarious. In the 17th Century Vienna was besieged by the Ottomans and then the Battle of Vienna. The christians had Jan sobieska as a leader. 85-70 thousand muslims died. It was the high tide of the Ottoman advance. B\

=But now the muslims just walk in and take over. The West has become a joke.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 10:27 am

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/06/wrong-name-inexcusable-sloppy-albanese-never-across-the-brief-lazy.html

Be proud, Australia – he is our leader!

This gets tucked away in the ‘rueful chuckle’ fringes of Australian reporting. The Chinese equivalent would be for Li Quiang to refer to Albanese as ‘Mr Shorten.

It will however be viewed as a serious affront by the Chinese delegation.

In the hyper-status-conscious world of Chinese politics, being shown up by Handsome Boy to be a blurry, indistinct figure, easily confused with a predecessor, is a terrible outcome.

China will handle it with ignoral with Chinese Characteristics – ie nothing said, but a price will be paid somewhere down the track.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 10:34 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Given they’re righting wrongs from the 6th and 8th Century it might take a while.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 11:02 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Doc Faustus:

It will however be viewed as a serious affront by the Chinese delegation.

Which in this case it is, but the criteria for “Serious Affront” is a diplomatic one and it corresponds to the imbalance between parties.
In other words, can the Chinese Communist Party get any political traction with the ‘misspoken’ comment? Yes they can, and so they will.
Watch the ‘Injured Party’ card come out in the next round of coal/iron ore prices.

Last edited 7 months ago by BobtheBoozer
Digger
Digger
June 18, 2024 5:49 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

The turd giving him the info and advice just got a $34,000 pay rise to over $1.0m per year…

Last edited 7 months ago by Digger
H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 10:30 am

Excellent Spooner today.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 10:40 am

What the hell is going on with “New Catallaxy”?

Comments appear on the bottom, when they are meant to be on the top. Heaps of “strange symbols” down the bottom and stuff. There’s some weird shit going down here. What the fuck does this [+] crap mean?

I blame the people who wanted emoji’s. It seems to have “snowballed” from there. Give an IT geek an inch, and he will take a mile.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 11:05 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Hello Armadillo. Welcome to hell.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 10:42 am

I received some push advertising this morning. Thrive by Five, bemoaning lack of childcare and how “I want you lot to pay for my childcare and need government to make laws to force you to pay it”. The CEO is Jay Witherall, another unflushable turd. It is funded by twiggy forrest. Do these people have delusions of grandeur? Have we seen the likes of Gina Reinhardt or Kerry Packer telling how to live our lives? They got on doing things without fanfare. My wife’s GG Grandfather worked for a bloke who brought a ship in Sydney and was a pioneer in the shipping industry. For some reason I haven’t been able to ascertain was poorly thought of. One of the things he did was upon hearing of a hard worker but down on his luck bailing him out with no expectation of repayment. He did this many times. Maybe this was the source of the disparagement of this man. GGGrandfather was also tarred with the same brush as he was the Captain of a coastal trader for this bloke. Only recently has there been positve views about this bloke.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 10:47 am

Good Lordy. Now I’m “waiting for approval”.

I guess things have turned less “Libertarian” since my last visit.

Am I still required to wear a face mask, or is it OK to go bare faced?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 10:55 am
Reply to  Armadillo

Watch out for links if you’re copy-pasting Arma.

They copy across with the new comment system and it’s easy to get moderated because of too many links.

If your beast can manage it remember to paste plain text.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 11:06 am

I am still doing my usual with tech here, working from a combination of hope and folklore, as Hairy calls it.

damon
damon
June 18, 2024 10:51 am

“Firstly, it’s cleverly designed synergy. 9AM is off-peak, so nobody actually wants any electricity at this time of day.”

Not quite true. Most people go to work. Fluorescent lighting, computers, heating (if necessary), schools…Greta was right. You rile up the kids. Can’t charge their phones, use their computers, and you have a problem.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 11:02 am
Reply to  damon

Off-Peak is between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. on weekdays and all day on weekends and public holidays in NSW.

The key here is “load management”. You can’t stop a power plant running.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 11:16 am
Reply to  Armadillo

We still have off peak load?
So while I’ve been running the dishwasher during the day when the paltry sums they pay me for my solar input are working, I should be washing my cat bowls at night?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 12:21 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Not if you are on Ergon Tariff 12C.

It would be cheaper to buy new cat bowls between 4PM and 9PM.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 18, 2024 11:04 am

On the news services – 24 CFA bush brigades take industrial action in protest over the renewable roll out.
Treat us like shit and we come out swinging.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 18, 2024 11:07 am

Treat us like shit and we come out swinging

‘Oh Tristan! I say, Tristan! The peasants are being bothersome again!’

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 11:30 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 11:11 am

24 CFA bush brigades take industrial action

Related news:

New secret tax on NSW power bills (Tele, paywalled)

Household power bills are set for a marginal increase thanks to a bizarre and expensive method of bushfire-proofing the state’s electricity infrastructure.

The massive expansion of electricity lines due to the distributed nature of renewables means massive increase in liability for bush fire initiation by said powerlines.

Which the state government is now secretly billing us for.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 11:14 am

Andrew Forrest welcomes China thaw, questions moves on climate targets

Paul Garvey The Australian June 17, 2024

This week’s visit from Chinese Premier Li Qiang should mark an end of a “puerile” era in Australian political attitudes towards China, billionaire Fortescue chairman Andrew Forrest has declared.

Speaking to The Australian ahead of Mr Li’s visit to Fortescue’s research and development facility in Perth on Tuesday, Dr Forrest said the deterioration in the relationship between Australia and China in the early years of the pandemic – which resulted in China introducing trade barriers on a host of Australian exports – had risked our economic prosperity.

“Australia’s attitude to China during that period was puerile and was matched only by China’s response. To get out of that awkward era as soon as possible is the responsibility for any good government,” Dr Forrest said.

“Any government of Australia which goes out of its way to annoy its biggest customer is probably going to stop being that customer’s favourite supplier.

“You can’t run around kicking your customers and still expect to sell a lot of boots.”

Dr Forrest’s stake in his iron ore miner Fortescue Metals, whose main customer is China, has made him one of the richest men in Australia. He is now driving the company to push into hydrogen and the production of “green steel”.

He was also critical of Peter Dutton’s recent decision to flag that he would abandon Australia’s 2030 carbon-reduction targets if he came to power.

He said maintaining the goal was critical for business planning, and warned that scrapping the target could lead to Australia missing out on the enormous economic opportunity around the global ­energy transition.

“Barnaby Joyce and others know I am likely to call out behaviour which is going to be directly against the standard of living, the national interest, the economic growth of Australia,” he said…

Because Australia’s national interest will always align with Forrest’s business interests, apparently.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 18, 2024 11:19 am
Reply to  Roger

Just fuk off Forest

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 11:24 am
Reply to  Roger

“You can’t run around kicking your customers and still expect to sell a lot of boots.”

Boots are cheap when you are pulling them off your dead comrades.

Arky
June 18, 2024 11:45 am
Reply to  Roger

It’s well past time that Australian governments told US governments that deindustrialisation and green religion drives her allies further into the Chinese orbit.
In other words, the US needs more than her dollars and arms to hold an alliance together. She needs lots of factories. Big, beautiful factories sucking up the world’s commodities and sending forth lots of wonderful goodies.

Arky
June 18, 2024 1:26 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

What is a GAE?

billie
billie
June 18, 2024 12:48 pm
Reply to  Roger

just another industrial welfare parasite, lecturing us on how to live

unbelievable hubris

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 18, 2024 11:20 am

Sounds like the turd is threatening Dutton

billie
billie
June 18, 2024 12:48 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

which one?

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 11:20 am

Related news: New secret tax on NSW power bills

Electricity billing is going to become increasingly opaque in the next few years as smart meters are further rolled out.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
John Brumble
John Brumble
June 18, 2024 4:25 pm
Reply to  Roger

That’s simply not true, Roger. You just made that up.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 11:08 am
Reply to  John Brumble

lol. Talk to Vicki about smart meters.

Lysander
Lysander
June 18, 2024 11:22 am

Reports of large fences being erected around the SCOTUS…

The last time fences were in place was when the Roe V Wade decision was announced.

POTUS immunity decision? 1512 Reversal? Or just putting up fences for fun?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 11:22 am

Question asked!

Why do drag queens never want to read stories to the elderly? (14 Jun)

Never prisons, hospital wards, hospices. Why do they never read to prisoners – a literal captive audience? Why not entertain the sick, or bring “trans joy” to the terminally ill?

Why is it always little children?

Ok yes there’s a distinct risk of being beaten to death with a zimmer frame. There is that.

local oaf
June 18, 2024 11:27 am

Can somebody kindly enlighten a non-Queenslander, non-consumer of MSM – what was the Irwin kid doing that got him parodied by the ON cartoon people?

I’m guessing he was fronting, or at least appearing in some sort of tourism promotion. Was this seen as thinly disguised promotion of the Labor government and of course paid for by the taxpayers?

Also, if it was a tourism promotion – why was it even shown inside Queensland; don’t most tourists come from elsewhere?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 11:45 am
Reply to  local oaf

This, in the middle of the Qld election campaign. Transparent political advertising paid for by the Qld taxpayer.

The Queensland Government has tapped Robert Irwin and Bluey in a $9 million tourism campaign (3 Jun)

Lie down with dogs, get fleas. I wonder which Liars’ staffer thought this one up?

PHON are entirely within their rights since he went political.

cohenite
June 18, 2024 11:32 am

This is the legislation stopping Australia going nuclear.

AUSTRALIAN RADIATION PROTECTION AND NUCLEAR SAFETY ACT 1998 – SECT 10 Prohibition on certain nuclear installations (austlii.edu.au)

All it would take is repeal legislation with these words:

The AUSTRALIAN RADIATION PROTECTION AND NUCLEAR SAFETY ACT 1998 is repealed.

In addition this shit could be repealed at the same time:

ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION AND BIODIVERSITY CONSERVATION ACT 1999 – SECT 21 Requirement for approval of nuclear actions (austlii.edu.au)

Simple eh.

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will
will
June 18, 2024 12:15 pm
Reply to  cohenite

lets see you get that through the Senate

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 11:36 am

Maybe search a few mosques?

Victoria Police to conduct random weapons searches (Sky News, 18 Jan)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 12:13 pm

The most powerful weapon is the mind, the next is your hands. I suppose they’re already searching for thought crimes. Of course they won’t go after the sudanese or muzzies. Just like at the airports, little old ladies routinely getting questioned so not as to upset the weirdbeards.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 4:23 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Search a few mosques. Their purpose is as an armoury – they say so themselves. I wouldn’t mind if a few Baptists Churches were searched as well – just to make sure.
Some of those Anglicans look a bit sus.

I don’t really need a smiley do I?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 11:39 am

Reading Alan Dershowitz – one commentator, Jeffery Goldberg, characterizes the Palestinians as having “the least successful national liberation movement of the 20th century.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 18, 2024 12:31 pm

Dr F at 10:04

Secondly, once Snowy 2.0 is up and running, Australia will be the envy of Top Men everywhere.

Well, yes.
Although I can’t help feeling that there is a certain irony in the fact that Malcolm’s love-child Florence is digging her grave with her mouth.

billie
billie
June 18, 2024 12:50 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You know, if we could drive Florence, from Melbourne to Sydney, we could have underground high speed rail!

In other fantasies, we could tunnel to London, or Bali .. oh my, a tunneling superpower is us!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 18, 2024 12:36 pm

Dr Faustus
 June 18, 2024 10:27 am

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/06/wrong-name-inexcusable-sloppy-albanese-never-across-the-brief-lazy.html

Be proud, Australia – he is our leader!

This gets tucked away in the ‘rueful chuckle’ fringes of Australian reporting. The Chinese equivalent would be for Li Quiang to refer to Albanese as ‘Mr Shorten.

But … but … they all look same.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 12:54 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

They do all look the same. Except for the albino’s (about 1 in 18,000).

It’s like throwing 5 of them in a packed crowd at the MCG for a pai gow tournament and then playing “Where’s Waldo”?

You won’t find them. Impossible.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 1:00 pm
Reply to  Armadillo

Anyone ever tried to spot “Waldo” in a crowd of 18,000 other look a likes? The cartoon page might have a hundred perhaps? “Asian Albino Waldo” won’t be found. Ever.

shatterzzz
June 18, 2024 1:29 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You know Luigi’s got problems when you start wondering if Billy would have been any worse .. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 18, 2024 12:39 pm

Interesting offer from AGL.
$150 rebate to sign up and stay with them until 30 June (12 days away).
Not big bucks, but I am thinking about signing up and flicking back on 1st July.
Disclaimer – I haven’t drilled into the fine print yet.

shatterzzz
June 18, 2024 12:48 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

They all have penalty clauses nowadayz for opting out before a certain time frame ………

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 3:03 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Electricity pricing will increasingly look like mobile phone pricing. It’s all about managing the churn.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 12:43 pm

Electricity billing is going to become increasingly opaque in the next few years as smart meters are further rolled out.

It certainly will become opaque. Smart meters are going to become ubiquitous and the information they provide will be used to ‘shape’ tariffs for individual customers.

Thus, if you have the terrible habit of using an electric oven or induction cooktop in the evening, you are going to be slugged with a character-building cooking tariff to change your vile behaviour.

And it won’t just be the billing. Smart meters are already set up to curtail use of power for certain concessional tariff applications.

So get ready for unexpected evenings of cold dinners, non-functioning aircon, and a flat EV in the garage. Or no power at all, because your low electricity social credit has selected you to be load shedded – for the fifth time this week.

Unless, of course, you are part of the nomenklatura

Welcome to the Turd World.

Lysander
Lysander
June 18, 2024 12:50 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Not even “get ready” – its happening now.

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 1:47 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Oh Dr. F – we are already experiencing it! After consistent billing for the last few years (we have a 10kw solar system so we export a lot of excess power to the grid) we have received bills in the last billing periods that just do not correspond to our usage & excess power. Husband started taking every day readings as soon as the smart meter was installed a while back – so we have precise records. Suddenly they do not match with the records of the energy company – in their favour, of course.

Husband is like a dog with a bone with these bills & has made many calls to the company & their “resolution” people. The word may have got through ( he has said he will take it to the Ombudsman) & now he reckons that the figures are suddenly consistent. BTW he has dowloaded an App which shows their readings, so that they can be compared with the meter readings on our solar system.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 4:28 pm
Reply to  Vicki

What app is that, Vicki?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 3:06 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

You’re not wrong. All the time of use risk previously borne by the retailer will be passed on to the consumer.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 4:01 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Correct; very little sneaks past the Bear.

But any savings from the risk allocation efficiency are likely to be a little ‘sticky’.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 11:15 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

My cooking is bad enough without having a character-building surcharge written in to it. Nuclear power can’t come soon enough for me.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 18, 2024 12:44 pm

Have a listen to this!

Great work from the student pilot and ATC.

—-

Student pilot Max Sylvester had not spent more than 10 minutes in control of an aircraft during his first two flying lessons. During his third, his instructor, who had so far watched his every move, became unconscious leaving Max alone in the cockpit.

At 4 PM on the 31st of August 2019 at Jandakot Airport in Western Australia, Max settled into the two-seater Cessna 152 for his third lesson overall, and the first in the Cessna 152. As they cruised at 3,500 feet, he noticed his instructor Rob was staring out of the window into the sky. Max assumed he’d seen something, but there was nothing there.

The instructor began shaking and it was clear that something was wrong. He was having a seizure. Without flying experience or an instructor, Max was left alone to deal with the emergency and he had his wife and three children waiting on the ground. This is the conversation between Max and Air Traffic Control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRluCHFaGx8

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 18, 2024 1:01 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

The dirty little secret that pilots keep is that aeroplanes fly themselves quite well with just a little guidance.
A pilot is someone who would rather go flying than get a real job.

Lysander
Lysander
June 18, 2024 1:21 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

They earn their money in bad weather.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 18, 2024 1:30 pm
Reply to  Lysander

The airline business is very procedural and all laid down. If you do it right you will be able to land at a suitable airport.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 7:31 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

That’s why I loved flying cargo. Very little was predictable.

Besides, “Boxes Don’t Bitch”.

Lysander
Lysander
June 18, 2024 12:48 pm

I know Iowa is not a huge deal, with only 6 electoral votes, and in 2020 Trump won by 8% but this is still big:

Trump leads Biden by 18 points in Iowa — a bad sign for president in 2024 swing states (nypost.com)

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 2:27 pm
Reply to  Lysander

That Des Moines Register poll is known for being notoriously accurate.
The implications for the mid-west states are indeed huge.

Meghan McCain, who hates Trump with a passion hotter than the sun, warned that “There is no scenario where Trump wins Iowa by 18 points but loses Wisconsin”. Wisconsin is listed as a toss-up by most and has 10 electoral college votes.

Bill Kristol, another Trump hater, said Trump now “has a good shot in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan (all toss-ups), and could win the whole thing.”. That’s 44 total electoral votes.

Based on recent polls, Biden would have to sweep the Great Lakes battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to have any chance at winning the election in November.

Reminder, 270 votes is the magic number to win.

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Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 3:33 pm
Reply to  Lysander

And boom, Trump out polls Joe in his home state.

Former President Donald Trump is edging out President Joe Biden in the key swing state of Pennsylvania, a recent Marist Poll found.

The survey, taken June 3-6, 2024, following the Manhattan jury’s controversial guilty verdict in Trump’s business records trial, shows Trump edging Biden out by two points in the Keystone State. The former president garners 47 percent support to Biden’s 45 percent.

The election is still 5 months away but the Dems have to be getting a bit twitchy about it.

Zippster
Zippster
June 18, 2024 1:11 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 2:48 pm
Reply to  Zippster

These guys never leave.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 18, 2024 1:17 pm

This gets tucked away in the ‘rueful chuckle’ fringes of Australian reporting. The Chinese equivalent would be for Li Quiang to refer to Albanese as ‘Mr Shorten.

But … but … they all look same.

Well, that’s an easy mistake to make, but not quite true.

Shorten has darker hair and a head that looks like it was made out of PlayDoh.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 1:24 pm

So get ready for unexpected evenings of cold dinners, non-functioning aircon, and a flat EV in the garage. 

In which case politicians should get ready for HOP time.

Metaphorically speaking, of course 😀

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 1:38 pm
Reply to  Roger

There was an old pitchfork available as a giveaway near here today. I suggested it be placed outside Partly House, with a suitable attached warning note.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 2:41 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Parly House.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 1:43 pm

The Chinese equivalent would be for Li Quiang to refer to Albanese as ‘Mr Shorten.

Perhaps “Mr Dutton” would be more apropos given recent polling.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 18, 2024 1:48 pm

Media are ringing for stories on the CFA action.
Lucky it’s radio for me.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 2:50 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Lucky for the rest of us too gez

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 18, 2024 6:37 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Heard it (? you or another) on radio this arvo (rural NSW) and again tonight on Sky. Excellent action, and pretty relatable to Melbourne since they had those terrible fires in 2019 involving fallen power lines. Central Sydney isn’t much affected by fire, except for the smoke. Canberra had their experience with forest mismanagement next to urban sprawl if I recall. Keep banging on about this, or all is lost!

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 1:49 pm

Check the fine print! They have it all figured out. Check out my reply to Dr. Faustus.

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 1:55 pm

Changes are coming from the young people who have been indoctrinated in the schools yet have seen through the BS. I remember my kids at school, they saw through the leftist teachers and openly mocked them, the things they did believe have since changed as they’ve found out they were being lied to. 

GrayRanga, there are two reasons that the young will back change. The first one is generational rebellion, if their parents are for it the young will be against it.

The other reason is as you pointed out, even the young can see through BS. I was sceptical when the Soviet Union fell that it wouldn’t be replaced by freedom but something much the same yet the young embraced the change and made it work in most of Eastern Europe if not quite in Russia.

Sadly, when tyranny ended behind the Iron Curtain it just moved West and was adopted by the rich and famous, looking at you WEF.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 18, 2024 2:01 pm

Vicki
 June 18, 2024 1:49 pm

Check the fine print! They have it all figured out. Check out my reply to Dr. Faustus.

Was this in reference to AGL?

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 4:35 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

No, Sancho – I was commenting generically. But I believe they are all moving in the same direction.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 2:10 pm

Sadly, when tyranny ended behind the Iron Curtain it just moved West

It was already here, biding its time.

eric hinton
eric hinton
June 18, 2024 2:16 pm

I missed it, Joe Biden thought he was at the G and not the G7 last week?

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bons
bons
June 18, 2024 2:16 pm

Gez, how are the Firery’s Union thugs copeing with the CFA action?

I would have assumed that their Liars bosses would have told them to intervene.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 2:19 pm
Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 2:24 pm

Remember when they just wanted toleration?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 2:46 pm
Reply to  Roger

First legalisation, then toleration, then acceptance, then acclamation.

Then complete control.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 18, 2024 2:58 pm

Nothing from the UFU so far Bons.
They’ll put their shiny arses at the government’s disposal but they know we don’t like them.
When CFA and MFB cross paths on a fire ground you could cut the atmosphere with a knife.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 3:13 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

I don’t even think they exchange Christmas cards.

bons
bons
June 18, 2024 3:30 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Laziest bastards in Government.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
June 18, 2024 8:12 pm
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Gez – I noticed lots of union ‘rock’ posters on walls this afternoon complaining that metro MFB/FRV trucks are ‘too old’ and need replacing – can’t imagine they’ve done THAT much mileage though. Happy to be corrected, but working assumption is just another log of claims the State Govt will accede to.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 3:02 pm

How to say you are totally out of touch without saying it.

The Biden campaign is launching a $50 million ad campaign in all the swing states, seeking to make Donald Trump’s recent criminal conviction a central theme of the 2024 election.

Nobody worth trying to convince thinks that the Trump trials are anything other than Biden abusing his DoJ to attack his political opponent.

Since the verdict, Trump’s campaign and allied groups have raised more than $420 million, destroying the cash advantage Biden had earlier this year.

But hey Joe, go ahead and make more people aware of what you did by advertising it like it was a trophy. Trump can always use more campaign donations.


Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 4:52 pm
Reply to  Zatara

With a senile fool as a candidate, they have nothing left but to double down on the lawfare, by highlighting it. Everything on a pair of twos.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 3:10 pm

Is Cackleberry going to be running with Sniffy Joe? If they can cheat enough I’d think that to be very risky. Sniffy is likely to wander off and never come back.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 3:14 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Yep. Probably the singly most unelectable female in the US.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 3:17 pm
Reply to  Zatara

Killary. Line 1.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 4:41 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

I’d put $100 on Hillary going to the election as a surprise candidate after the Democrat selection process is done.
She has to have as short a campaign as possible to nullify her ‘advantages’.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 3:12 pm

The sneaky and dishonest tactic used by “journalists” was perfectly illustrated by an interview with Nigel Farage on Sky UK this morning.
He was asked to state that he would “never join the Tory party”. Why should he say never?
But it was a heads I win, tails you lose situation. There was no correct answer.
(The conservatives might grow a new spine and adopt at least some of Farage’s policies.)
The jismist will use the Q&A for whatever purpose he likes.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 3:26 pm

Misinformation: the mullet hairdo was named after long-winded theoretical and sceptical Russian philosopher Mullitova.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 3:59 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

He didn’t give it much thought. Nearly as bad as a bouffant.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 3:29 pm

From Fox News The Five recently.
A news story about two juvenile camels escaping from a kids petting zoo enclosure and wandering around elicited comments from the panel.
Judge Janine said it was a happy story and it “wasn’t even Hump Day yet”.
Greg Gutfeld topped that (I wonder how many noticed) with “it’s always nice to see camels going toe to toe.”

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 3:44 pm

Spokane Pride mural vandalized … again

For the fourth time total, including the second time in less than a week, Spokane’s gay road mural has been vandalized by brave Washingtonians willing to face felony charges for defacing the Left’s holy relic.

La Resistance strikes again!

Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 3:54 pm
Philby
Philby
June 18, 2024 8:51 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Will the lies of officials be acted upon????

chrisl
chrisl
June 18, 2024 4:01 pm

Reporting in from Hamilton Island to give an update on the sorry state of Queensland islands
Firstly it is pleasantly warm especially the early mornings
Down south it takes a long time to warm up (if at all)
The resort area itself is very well planned and landscaped with the hint of The Truman Show about it.
The golf buggy transport seems to be on a continuous loop.
The marina has its fair share of upscale boats and yachts
A few points off for hideous high rise hotels.
The backpackers seem to be back and everywhere are serving with a smile
Full credit to the people who developed this place .
Back in the days before red tape green tape and black tape

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 4:31 pm
Reply to  chrisl

Yes – it is very well put together. But not my sort of holiday. But it is a lovely part of the coastline.

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 4:29 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I understand that this has been known for some time in general terms. It was apparently disregarded as being just rumour. Tragic. There will be some of those who knew who will never recover their careers. Bibi may not have known, but he is cactus in any case.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 5:11 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Unless he can prove the situation had been hidden from him by an opposing political faction.
I think I’ll pass on the outcome for a week or so.
If there’s one thing that is difficult to decipher, it’s ME politics.

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Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 5:31 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

This has been known for some time.

I would imagine the IDF gets intelligence like this every other week. It has to be evaluated. We’ll see what comes out in the wash.

The intelligence likely didn’t include ordinary Gazan civilians raping and pillaging, which possibility had not even entered into Hamas’s plan, counter-productive as it was in terms of them obtaining leverage over the Israelis rather than provoking an all out war.

The Israelis should be more concerned about the routine security failures on the day, which demonstrated a fatal complacency. And that may link back to the intelligence assessment failure.

Tom
Tom
June 18, 2024 5:52 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

October 7, 2023, was the mother of all intelligence failures.– most likely because of tribal leftist sabotage in the IDF and Israeli government.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 18, 2024 6:58 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

knives coming out for Bibi, looks like.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 18, 2024 7:19 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Initelligence is not a 100% picture given as a certainty to the customers. It is hedged about with words like “probably” or “likely” or “possibly”.

And if the customer jumped at every hare running, nothing would get done.

duncanm
duncanm
June 18, 2024 4:41 pm

Well that’s a nice surprise – Kean as resigned from NSW politics.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 5:03 pm
Reply to  duncanm

Michael Smith says it puts the N.S.W.Liberals back in the race!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 5:06 pm
Reply to  duncanm

Not so nice.

He wants to go to Canberra.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 18, 2024 6:51 pm

Sky tonight said no, he wants a private sector job. Board of Greenpeace or equivalent maybe (lol)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 18, 2024 4:53 pm

Place your bets. Working for Twiggy or even Holmes A Court or Atlassian guys. Either way he will be continuing his work to screw the country.
My bet is Twiggy.

“Mr Kean said he would be taking a role related to energy when he moved to the private sector”.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
June 18, 2024 4:55 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Malocclusion Turdball is my guess

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
June 18, 2024 4:53 pm

Has Matt Kean seen the writing on the wall in the electorate? The hunger for his type of Lino had gone. Which green energy carpet bagger has hired this leech?

Muddy
Muddy
June 19, 2024 10:21 am

Welcome, Long Time Lurker.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 18, 2024 4:54 pm

the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas’s plan to raid Israel and kidnap 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre

That may well be so. However, intelligence to this sort of effect is still subject to a number of conditions:

a. That the people receiving the intelligence assess it as credible and imminent;
b. If so, that those people adequately described that intelligence picture, along with properly identified risks and threats to the IDF Top Men; and
c. If so, that the IDF Top Men decided to take it seriously, if not act on it.

There are a lot of ‘if’s in there, a lot of cracks where information can fall and a lot of room for personal agendas to come into play.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 5:48 pm

Nowhere in the article did it say that the IDF knew the date, time, or location of the attack. Without such details it is fairly unactionable intelligence despite its basic validity.

He who defends everything defends nothing. – Frederick the Great

The IDF deploying a large defensive force surrounding all of Gaza on 100% alert forever was obviously unsustainable and a pre-emptive attack not politically acceptable. The solution they apparently chose was to rely on lighter screening/monitoring units and keep heavier mobile rapid response forces in reserve.

From the comfort of an armchair It would appear that the breakdown was in the failure of monitoring, reporting, and/or the lack of timely and appropriate command reaction. Time will tell and books will be written eventually.

The fact that the reported document surfaced now and was leaked to the press is strongly suggestive of the motives behind those doing so.

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 18, 2024 6:30 pm

It is called Silent Evidence. How many of these Jihadi training and plans the IDF found in the past did not happen. The press constantly does this when it comes to risk. If there is an earthquake then you can guarantee you can find a person who predicted it.

cohenite
June 18, 2024 5:05 pm

Again it happens in biden/obama’s US:

Arrest made in killing of Maryland mother of five Rachel Morin | Fox News

How long before it happens here with that fuking POS giles in charge.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 5:13 pm

Amazing!
How quickly the enviro-loons, Labor, Greens, Teals, have switched from opposing dams because a legless lizard might be inconvenienced to now wanting to do vast offshore windmill projects and desecrate landscapes (particularly in QLD) to do more of the weather-related underachievers.
Politics isn’t the art of the possible any more.
It is the art of the implosion of formerly cohesive and productive nations.

Zatara
Zatara
June 18, 2024 5:58 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Unsurprisingly, given their nature, none of them seem to consider the follow-on effects. Such as the all but impossible task of disposing of those huge, unrecyclable composite rotor blades when they are damaged, spent, or abandoned like yesterday’s fashions.

Strange for people who are supposedly obsessed with the future.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 5:13 pm

Former NSW treasurer Kean to take on Teals (Courier Mail, 14 Jun, paywalled)

Matt Kean could be Canberra-bound, with the former NSW treasurer weighing up challenging sitting federal MP and fellow Liberal Paul Fletcher. 

Ok what’s happened in the last 4 days that he’s suddenly decided not to enter Federal politics? Colour me sceptical about these new plans to go into the corporate sector…he wantses, he really wantses to be in Canberra, precioussss.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 18, 2024 5:13 pm

Very good letter by Pauline’s lawyer to Robert Irwin’s lawyer over at Michael Smith.
Hot legal tip. Avoid Irwin’s lawyers as idiots.

Barry
Barry
June 18, 2024 6:42 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Hanson’s lawyers can’t even spell the name of their own Legal Practice properly – Delaney spelled as Deaney in the valediction.

Looks amateurish and fake – detracts from the excellent craft in the body of the letter.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 5:14 pm

Green Kean won’t be missed in NSW, nor will he be recognisably different to a Teal.

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JC
JC
June 18, 2024 5:15 pm

There’s nothing new in that Jerusalem Post piece. It’s just regurgitated (old) news.

A later paragraph explains the assessment prior to the attack.New technology installed at the border two years prior would succeed in helping to counter such an attack.

This information, combined with a new and sophisticated security barrier completed two years before the attack, was believed to have made such an assault improbable. However, the barrier failed during the Hamas attack, highlighting a significant intelligence and security oversight.

There’s also this

The report further detailed that Israeli intelligence officials monitored the exercise and documented the steps Hamas planned to take after breaching Israeli territory and taking over military posts. The expected number of hostages, according to the document, was between 200 and 250 people.

“Israeli intelligence officials who monitored the exercise detailed in the document the next steps after breaching into Israel and taking over the posts, determining that the instruction is to hand over the captured soldiers to the company commanders. The expected number of hostages, it states, is between 200 and 250 people,” Kan News reported.

Unless I’m reading it incorrectly, the piece is suggesting Ham Arse’s plan was to take Israeli military as hostages.

The article appears to be bullshit as that Israeli intel was not expecting a civilian massacre, nor taking civilian hostages.
Knowing “precisely” is totally misleading.

Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 5:19 pm
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 18, 2024 5:20 pm

Wow, the Kansas v Pfizer story just gone up at Herald Sun online. Naturally no comments allowed.

‘Misleading’: Drug giant Pfizer sued over Covid jab
Pfizer has been slammed in a new lawsuit that accuses the firm of making false claims and hiding two major vaccine risks.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 18, 2024 5:25 pm

Very good letter by Pauline’s lawyer to Robert Irwin’s lawyer over at Michael Smith

Yep. Very good indeed.

Watched Bobby Rob and Bluey’s performance on Please Explain one more time. Still just as good.

Robbie Bobbie needs to calm down, because there’s a fair bit of ‘Do You Know Who I Am?’ seeping through, when who he actually is – is a massively rich kid pampered (and still profiting) by other people’s adulation of a dead man.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 5:41 pm

And, I suspect, with a pushy mother.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 5:25 pm

Ashli Babbitt Lawsuit Against Feds Moved from San Diego to Washington DC – Assigned to Far Left Anti-Trump Judge Appointed by Biden

The Washington Examiner reported that the suit was filed on behalf of Babbitt’s estate and her husband, Aaron Babbitt, and claims the officer who shot Babbitt was “incompetent” and “dangerous” and should have recognized Babbitt posed no threat to Congress when she entered the House speaker’s lobby.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/outrage-ashli-babbitt-lawsuit-against-feds-moved-san/

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 5:30 pm

Some mob is running ads at the moment about vaping – saying it needs to be opposed and “don’t be on the wrong side of history!”.
Do they mean like being for The Republic? For The Voice?

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 5:33 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

The lockdowns? The vaccine?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 5:43 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

The lefturds genuinely believe that every thought bubble they fart out is pure wisdom.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 18, 2024 5:30 pm

Florida McDonald’s Employee Allegedly Opens Fire at Customers Over Drive-Thru Argument (VIDEO)

FOX 35 Orlando reported Lakeland police officers responded to a shooting on June 14 at the McDonalds located on East Memorial Boulevard. Police say 22-year-old Mickey D’s employee Chassidy Gardner started shooting at customers after getting into a verbal altercation.

The Lakeland Police Department revealed the customers were reportedly angry because they felt their food order was wrong and did not exactly behave peacefully either.

Surveillance video footage obtained by the police shows Gardner arguing with the customers at the drive-through window for a few moments. The suspect then throws a drink at them as they leave.

Two customers respond by exiting their vehicle, shoving open the drive-through window, and throwing drinks at Gardner. The employee arms herself with a gun.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/mcmayhem-florida-mcdonalds-employee-allegedly-opens-fire-customers/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 5:39 pm

Some mob is running ads at the moment about vaping – saying it needs to be opposed and “don’t be on the wrong side of history!”.

Be on the right side of history and eat funny mushies!

An Alarming Thing Happens Whenever Magic Mushrooms Are Decriminalized (17 Jun, via Instapundit)

Calls to poison control centers spiked across the U.S. for adolescents and young adults exposed to the hallucinogen psilocybin, according to our analysis of data from 55 U.S. poison centers between 2013 and 2022.

The calls increased after 2019 when psilocybin was decriminalized and legalized in several cities and states.

Psilocybin is a compound found in “magic mushrooms,” a popular recreational drug that was decriminalized for the first time by Denver, Colorado, in 2019.

Hmmm, what else is there? Cane toads? They apparently give a pretty big kick. Ah, but sadly there’s no way government could tax cane toads. Pity, seeing how many of them there are.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 5:44 pm

Britain’s richest family spent more on pet dog than they paid their servants, court toldBy Hugo MillerJune 18, 2024 — 11.02am

Listen to this article
4 min
The billionaire Hinduja family spent more on their pet dog than they paid one of their servants, according to a Swiss prosecutor who urged jail terms of as long as 5½ years at a trial over alleged trafficking and exploitation of staff at their Lake Geneva villa.
Prosecutor Yves Bertossa launched a blistering attack on the family at the Swiss city’s criminal court, citing testimony from the staff and Hindujas, as well as evidence submitted during his investigation.

“They spent more for one dog than one of their servants,” he said. The woman, he said, was paid at one point as little as 7 Swiss francs ($11.90) for a working day that lasted as long as 18 hours, seven days a week. He pointed to a budget document headlined “Pets”, which he said demonstrated that the family spent 8584 ($14,589) Swiss francs in a year on their family dog.
Staff contracts didn’t specify working hours or days off, but rather that they be available as needed by their employers, Bertossa continued. Given their passports had been confiscated, they had no Swiss francs to spend as their wages were paid in India and couldn’t leave the house without their employer’s permission, they had little to no freedom, he argued.
Even when they left the Hindujas’ home for the family’s residences in the Swiss Alps or Cote d’Azur, it wasn’t for fun, he said. When they accompanied family members to Cannes, he asked, “What were they doing there, jet-skiing?”

But lawyers for the family immediately hit back at Bertossa’s claims, repeatedly citing the servants’ testimony that they were treated with respect and dignity. Bertossa, according to the defence, was being misleading in his characterisations of their remuneration.
“The salary can’t simply be reduced to what they were paid in cash,” given their board and lodgings were covered, said Yael Hayat, a lawyer for family scion Ajay Hinduja. Eighteen hour-working days is also an exaggeration, she said.
“When they sit down to watch a movie with the kids, can that be considered work? I think not,” she said.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 6:15 pm

“When they sit down to watch a movie with the kids, can that be considered work? I think not,” she said.

That’s what employment contracts are meant to stipulate.

No wonder there weren’t any contracts, given that the employment conditions would have been illegal under Swiss law.

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Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 6:27 pm

Yael has obviously never spent a weekend watching videos with nephews, nieces, young cousins etc. Stupid twat.

bons
bons
June 18, 2024 6:05 pm

Keane, Dutton and Littleproud.

That ain’t gonna work for Federal LNP members or electors. Keane climate crony scams are rapidly being left behind in the Party except within the corrupt NSW Executive.

Photios’ thugs grip upon the Executive is a problem that appears to be insoluable. These crooks will fight to the death to oppose nuclear and retain their renewable scams.

The denial of rights for the NSW (and QLD) branches is an adequate reason for a Federal intervention, BUT will Dutton try. The Federal inaction in relation to the Victorian outrage does not leave me feeling any degree of confidence.

Dutton does appear to have more support amongst the Federal members than any recent leaders. He needs to take advantage of that make a move because the Moderates will happily loose the election if that shores up their Party sinecures.

Surely Dutton understands that Photios will preselect people who will completely undermine him.

People like Canavan, and the Senate women need to step up and be voluable in demanding action. The electorate will support them.

Kieth Pitt claims that the QLD LNP July State Conference will be a turning point. We’ll see.

m0nty
m0nty
June 18, 2024 6:25 pm

Phil Coorey reckons Dutton will finally release his nuclear policy tomorrow morning.

This should be fun. Unless he chickens out again, which would be de rigueur.

Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 6:41 pm
Reply to  m0nty

You’d know about “chickening out”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 7:08 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Dutton went past Albo as preferred PM in the last Newspoll AFTER both slamming net freaking zero AND pushing nuclear energy.

Which I might add over 60% of Aussies are OK with.

National poll shows shift in Australian nuclear opinion (6 Jun)

You’re living in the wrong century Monty. Get with the program.

Cassie of Sydney
June 18, 2024 8:13 pm

He lives in 1930s and early 1940s Germany.

Cassie of Sydney
June 18, 2024 7:12 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Punched any Nazis today, Nazi?

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Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 7:41 pm
Reply to  m0nty

The real issue is gas.

mem
mem
June 18, 2024 6:26 pm

An update on our energy mix. Only 5% wind and solar in total at 6.15pm tonight across the 5 states that participate in the NEM. Victoria is down to 1% combined wind and solar. Coal and gas are keeping the heaters and lights on. After all the ballyhoo about renewables replacing coal and the billions spent, what do we get but mickey mouse electricity. It’s a farce.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 7:54 pm
Reply to  mem

Yep without nuclear or some new technology that has yet to be discovered since the use of grid scale electricity it isn’t happening.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 18, 2024 6:27 pm

“as we decarbonise …” sayeth Dutton today, with Simon Birmingham also appearing on TV touching the emission reduction forelock.
Not Good Enough you fake conservatives.
Grow a spine, be different. Stop the rot.

Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

God, I was really pissed off at that.
If we “de-carbonise, we are dead.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 7:44 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

I suspect they don’t believe it, but they deem it’s politically necessary for now.

We are beholden to the EU & US until they break from the narrative, which is beginning to happen.

calli
calli
June 18, 2024 6:33 pm

Stranded in Barcelona! Cunard in port for four days to do work on a stabiliser. Better here than being towed back to port. There are worse places to be stuck.

So…slumming it strolling up La Ramblas to the fountain and back and checking out all the galleries and museums I missed first and second time around.

Another of Spain’s well kept secrets is Tarragona. It has a Roman amphitheater with the sparkling blue Med as a backdrop, a portion of a circus still standing plus odds and ends of the city walls, and a cathedral with an amusing and typically Spanish story about the acquisition of relics, this time a saint’s arm. And no crowds.

Also, just outside the city, an almost perfectly preserved Roman aqueduct.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 7:09 pm
Reply to  calli

Being stranded in Barcelona is terrible. Just terrible!

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 7:29 pm
Reply to  calli

So many remains of the great Roman civilisation in this part of of Europe.

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 7:43 pm
Reply to  Vicki

An arena they found in Cartagena in 1989 when digging for foundations to a residential block is now the main tourist attraction in that city, much bigger than the Civil War underground bomb shelters that are the only other tourist attraction.

Rosie
Rosie
June 18, 2024 6:40 pm

Lucky you Calli.
Every time I visit Barcelona I day trip to Tarragona, a delightful train trip along the coast to a beautiful town with many wonderful sights, including the procession of the rats in the cloister.

Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 6:40 pm

Little Lord Fauntleroy, PVO, is holding as tightly as he can to his nose as he deigns to give Pauline Hanson a few crumbs.
Snork! He expects us to believe he has merely glimpsed a few seconds of “Please Explain”, and, that it isn’t even mildly amusing. Huge Guffaw!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13541039/robert-irwin-pauline-hanson-PVO.html

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  Pogria

I’ll bet he doesn’t like State of Origin either.

😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 7:57 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Like a hooker giving $20 head jobs on the side streets gotta focus on the long game. Poor Prof.

calli
calli
June 18, 2024 6:40 pm

Watching MSNBC on the ship’s TV is excruciating. Wall to wall Trump. They are all demented and frothing, each imagining horrors should Trump become president again. One female commentator can’t even speak his name!

There I was thinking the BEEB and CNN were biased.

Also, I’ve been pondering sea level rise and that amphitheater that is basically just above the beach and has been for 2,000 years. The Spanish don’t seem to be particularly worried. It’s almost as if such moral panics are selective. Very sciencey indeed.

Roger
Roger
June 18, 2024 7:02 pm
Reply to  calli

Watching MSNBC on the ship’s TV is excruciating.

You’re on holiday…why torture yourself?

I don’t even watch msm news at home.

Not good for the blood pressure.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 7:39 pm
Reply to  calli

Ok I can see now how being stuck in Barcelona could be a bad thing if you are forced to watch MSNBC.

calli
calli
June 18, 2024 6:44 pm

You’ve seen it!

The sneaky “dead” cat on a stretcher being carried triumphantly by the foolish, unsuspecting rats!

If only Sylvester and Tom had lived in medieval times!

Rosie
Rosie
June 18, 2024 6:51 pm

I’m sure that when I was there I read something about Tarragona being more or less abandoned for a couple of hundred years due to the depredations of Arab slavers but there’s nothing on Google about it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 7:38 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Google mustn’t harm the image of the peaceful Mooslime traders. They were taking tourists on an ocean cruise, not taking them as slaves.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 6:54 pm

Coffee being my drug of choice makes me wonder why people use psycdelics. I like alcohol but it doesn’t particularly like me. I can do without it. I now find just about everything I like is not good for my aneurysm. Looks like being shot by a jealous husband when I’m 100 is not going to eventuate. I’ve just happened to find my life expectancy is cut in half. If its a burst not a slow leak I’ve got 1 minute instead of 2 minutes. This is only to make people think its over quicker. I’ve seen it happen and its much longer. Makes me wish I’d had children younger to see them and their children grow older. The joy my MiL gets from her GGrandchildren is heart warming. On the downside her broom is arriving in a months time.

mem
mem
June 18, 2024 7:09 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Hi GG
I have just recovered after a burst aneurism in the brain and a larger one sitting in waiting at the base of the brain ready to go. Incredible surgery for both done through arteries from groin up to brain at Austin Hospital in Melbourne. Thanks to radio isotopes from Lucas Heights. There are marvelous things happening in this type of surgery in all parts of body. Clips and stents and sizzles. Please investigate.

Vicki
Vicki
June 18, 2024 7:25 pm
Reply to  mem

Just great news, mem! There is much that disappoints about modern medicine, but SO much that is amazing. I do hope Greyranga can follow up on this.

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 7:39 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Good luck with it all. Wow.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 7:48 pm
Reply to  mem

Thanks mem, I’ve already discussed this with my specialist and he says most likely through the groin but won’t know until a certain type of scan, can’t remember name, is done, otherwise its open heart. I’ve had a few blood clots in my feet but sorted itself out before they went black. A nice mid blue. Had I known I was going to have so many health issues I would have had a more riotous life.

mem
mem
June 18, 2024 9:38 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

By the sounds of it you did all the things I wish I’d done, and I’ve done all (maybe) the things you wish you’d done, and so together we’d make the perfect “boiled egg”. Good luck. mem

Crossie
Crossie
June 18, 2024 7:49 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

GrayRanga, so sorry to read that. I hope your doctors are wrong and you will still be here to meet your great grandchildren.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 3:55 am
Reply to  Crossie

Crossie life expectancy is 10 years after surgery and almost zero even if on the operating table. I have no problem with that, if anything it has focused my mind about what is important and what is dross. Those years of 16 hour days for what? I’ve had a very comfortable life. We only get out what we put in.

Muddy
Muddy
June 18, 2024 8:04 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Best of luck Ranga, and that’s great news, Mem.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 18, 2024 6:58 pm

Scott Morrison prepared to take witness stand in Reynolds, Higgins defamation rowBy Jesinta BurtonFormer prime minister Scott Morrison has been named among the high-profile witnesses called to give evidence in WA Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds’ high-stakes defamation trial against former staffer Brittany Higgins.
On Tuesday, the WA Supreme Court was told Morrison had filed and signed a witness outline ahead of the defamation trial to commence in late July.
The court was told the bundle of evidence adduced by Reynolds’ legal team would also contain sworn testimony from WA Senator Michaelia Cash and her former chief of staff.
Cash’s attendance in-person will hinge on parliamentary sitting dates, with Higgins’ lawyers continuing a push to delay the slated July 24 start date to accommodate new WA-based counsel.
Outside court, Reynolds’ lawyer Martin Bennett told the waiting press pack Morrison was expected to be overseas at the time of the trial, but was prepared to give evidence remotely if required.
And Reynolds, who made a surprise appearance at court, mentioned Morrison by name while sharing her gratitude to her former parliamentary colleagues for their support.
In 2021, Higgins alleged she was raped in Reynolds’ parliamentary office by her colleague Bruce Lehrmann – a claim Lehrmann has long denied. Lehrmann is appealing a decision by Federal Court Justice Michael Lee in an April 2024 civil defamation case that, on the balance of probabilities, he did rape Higgins. A rape charge against him was withdrawn in after his 2022 criminal trial was aborted due to juror misconduct.

Reynolds, the former boss of Lehrmann and Higgins, has faced years of criticism over her handling of Higgins’ rape allegation.
The senator said the ongoing fallout had a significant impact on her and others, with her medical professionals among those expected to take the witness stand.
“I need to clear my name finally, after well over three years… so many people have been so damaged by this,” she said.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 18, 2024 8:00 pm

Don’t mess with Marty. Brittany needs to make this go away but Zwier and the Liars are running it now.

Muddy
Muddy
June 18, 2024 8:00 pm

The early iterations of professional freak shows seem like high culture compared to the menageries of grotesque we now produce for entertainment.

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 7:07 pm
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Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 7:12 pm
Reply to  JC

JC, link is no good.

MatrixTransform
June 18, 2024 7:17 pm
Reply to  JC

worserer than that, rolling over the faulty link shows his username for his PC

if JC doesnt fix it, dover should delete it

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 7:41 pm

x

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MatrixTransform
June 18, 2024 7:44 pm
Reply to  JC

JC … im not taking the p155

fix yr link

Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 7:11 pm

Biden’s America is so funny.
Secret Service are being mugged whilst on the job!

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/06/17/secret-service-agent-robbed-n2175607

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 18, 2024 7:41 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Which is worse, being mugged or being bitten dozens of times by Joe’s dog?

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 7:38 pm

Can someone explain the military industrial complex as I don’t see the loads of money going to the contractors?

If you follow the money, you also should be able to see “the money” but I don’t.

Let’s take Lockheed Martin Corp, one of the big defense players in the industry. I’ll leave Boeing alone as it’s beset by those problems in the civilian side causing the stock to be trashed. Lockheed doesn’t appear to be having any of those large problems.

Lockheed stock has been doing nothing since 2022 – remained flat.

The stock has a PE ratio of 16.81 while the average PE for the Dow is

The PE ratio for Dow stock stands at 32.68 as of Jun 17, 2024.

In other words Lockheed is trading at almost half the current PE for stocks in the Dow.

How about a defense ETF, which carries the major defense contractors.

iShares U.S. Aerospace & Defense ETF

NYSEMKT: ITA

It’s trading PE around 30.72, which is at a tiny discount to the Dow, but nowhere near as bad as Lockheed. However this is nothing startling.
Since 2022, it’s gone from about $110 to $133, which is a 21% climb.
For 2022, the Dow rose 31% from it’s low point that year.

Defense should be trading at a massive multiple to the Dow and the S&P 500 if we’re to believe this huge money machine exists. At least the stock market doesn’t appear to believe it so.

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 7:46 pm
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MatrixTransform
June 18, 2024 8:02 pm
Reply to  JC

dover should delete the other post anyway

it contains your actual username for your actual PC

just sayin’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 18, 2024 7:52 pm

This Is Going Well news (the Hun):

A transgender woman took her own life after she was horrifically mutilated in a backyard surgery by a rogue operator with no medical training.

That would be a bloke determined to become a woman.

The 24-year-old was made to lie on a tarp on a bed during the unlawful genital removal procedure which was abandoned due to extreme blood loss.

The “unlicensed, non-medical” individual responsible for the woman’s assault-like injuries has never been pursued, prompting calls by her mother for a police investigation to hold them accountable and protect others from danger.

A friend of the woman said “a vet” would have been better qualified to perform the procedure.

And:

Tragically the woman ended her life 18 months after the aborted procedure using a drug sold to her by an Australian chemical supplier now under scrutiny.

Also:

Frustrated by barriers to medical gender affirmation, she put her faith in the uncertified ‘surgeon’, who she found online.

At their hands, she underwent an orchiectomy – removal of the testes – but there were serious complications, including excessive bleeding, which resulted in her admission to Casey Hospital.

Suicided 18 months later, perhaps unsurprisingly.

There are quite a lot of people required to be held to account.

Philby
Philby
June 18, 2024 9:31 pm

Would have been safer to consult a sheep farmer

CharlieP
CharlieP
June 19, 2024 6:54 am

Surely the person responsible for this is the person who suicided. It only happened because he made unwise decisions. There’s no indication he was coerced into having the ‘surgery’.

132andBush
132andBush
June 18, 2024 7:59 pm

dover0beach
June 18, 2024 4:17 pm

A newly surfaced document has revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas’s plan to raid Israel and kidnap 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre.

Caroline Glick hammered this point yesterday, I posted a link.

Like I said, the IDF is not immune to Mark Milley types and by the looks of it there are few “top men” actively working against the government.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 8:01 pm

JC all the problems and cost overruns along with changes the F-35 probably depressed the stock price. I notice General Dynamics dropped off during 45’s Presidency getting out of wars. The first two years probably only increased due to forward orders. I think you’re right, wheres the money going.

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 8:15 pm

Here’s more Ranga

The total market capitalization of the major defense contractors is, according to Gemini.

Based on companiesmarketcap.com, if we consider the top 6 US companies on their list (Raytheon Technologies, Honeywell, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, L3Harris Technologies), the total market cap is around $531.5 billion.

Say, add in $100 billion because of individual problems at these firms, like you mentioned (Lockheed) to blow up the figure taking it to $631 billion.. We’re still nowhere near big and beautiful when you consider Nvidia and Microtheft are US$ 3 trillion apiece. The military industrial complex is really quite small.

132andBush
132andBush
June 18, 2024 8:17 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_YaRyngrFs&list=PL3e1orPYt_4aBPatxwcMQmalHmv7AubaA

From Louder with Crowder today.

This is how the election was manipulated.

I urge people to watch the segment with Dr Robert Epstein from the 56:50 minute mark.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 18, 2024 8:24 pm

The pilot dies and this bloke has to land the plane with his family in the back seats.

Good job bloke and ATC.

PILOT DIES, Passenger Lands King Air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqPvVxxIDr0

JC
JC
June 18, 2024 8:29 pm

It’s mind boggling. No it’s actually freaking criminal. China, the world’s largest importer of energy has one of the cheapest electricity costs in the world.

China 8 cents
Australia 28 cents
US 17 cents.

Germany at the close to the top,with some showing it as the most expensive. 40 cents.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/

We’re the largest coal exporter thereby allowing others to burn it and we’re now the second largest gas exporter (and the same applies). This is madness on a criminal scale. We’re letting China, our big threat burn our coal as we close down plants.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 18, 2024 9:01 pm

100 bill here and a hundred bill there and you’re still not talking serious money. I see 2024 defence budget is over 2 trillion. Previous years less than a trillion. The government is spending more than these companies are worth. Me non comprende.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
June 18, 2024 9:13 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

A lot of that expenditure goes on personnel costs – over 40% of the total her, probably similar or more in the US. Then there are fuel, ammunition and repair and maintenance.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 18, 2024 9:51 pm

Check out the man-boobs on this low T anti-Semite.

Mike
@Doranimated

In NY, a man threatens an old Jew and spits at him.

https://x.com/Doranimated/status/1803011154253349197

?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 4:12 am
Reply to  feelthebern

Disappointed he didn’t get the crap smacked out of him.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 19, 2024 11:51 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

What pissed me off is the idiot in the hoodie who interceded. You find them everywhere – the stupid people who imagine they’rre ‘peacemakers’. What they are doing is stopping the fat fool who assaulted the old man – yes, spitting on someone is assault – from getting the smack in the mouth he deserved, and letting him get away with it.
Spitter 1
Old man 0.
Bloody peacemakers – perpetuating the problem because the assaulter learnt he will be protected by them.

Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 10:05 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 10:11 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 10:30 pm
Cassie of Sydney
June 18, 2024 10:37 pm

In NY, a man threatens an old Jew and spits at him.

Who knew the pervert apologist had a twin?

Pogria
Pogria
June 18, 2024 11:05 pm

The man-boobed piece of shit was only interested in going after the older gentleman. He backed off real quick when confronted by the young and the strong. Typical.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 7:15 am
Reply to  Pogria

As would mUntyfa.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 19, 2024 11:55 am
Reply to  Pogria

What pissed me off is the idiot in the hoodie who interceded. You find them everywhere – the stupid people who imagine they’rre ‘peacemakers’. What they are doing is stopping the fat fool who assaulted the old man – yes, spitting on someone is assault – from getting the smack in the mouth he deserved, and letting him get away with it.
Spitter 1
Old man 0.
Bloody peacemakers – perpetuating the problem because the assaulter learnt he will be protected by them.

Cassie of Sydney
June 18, 2024 10:40 pm

Free Palestine, by spitting on an elderly Jewish man.

Nazi imagery.

From the river to the spit.

Indolent
Indolent
June 18, 2024 10:45 pm

@robinmonotti

Reform UK Policy Documents:

“Our Contract With You”

“Critical reforms needed in the first 100 days:

Affirm British Sovereignty.

Reject the influence of the World Economic Forum. We will cancel our membership of the World Health Organisation unless there is fundamental reform to its structure and funding. Reform UK also opposes the Creation of a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). We will legislate if necessary to stop Britain becoming a cashless society.”

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 18, 2024 10:58 pm

@Matt_Camenzuli

10:20 PM Jun 18, 2024

The Kean conundrum.

I have been looking through the commentary under Matt Kean’s farewell post.

It is interesting that the overwhelming majority of supportive (non-member) tweets, filled with praise and sadness, are from people who never have voted Liberal, and or never will.

If their tweet does not make their affilitations abundantly clear, their bio’s do.

Conversely, those that are critical of Kean, or glad to see him go are almost all Liberal or former Liberal voters (lost to the right).

The logic is simple, Kean and his ilk are a drag on the Liberal vote, they don’t gain any ground anywhere. Especially not from the left, who absolutely admire them, but never ever vote for them.

Turning the Liberal Party to the hard, radical left has been a gamble that has not paid off. It is time to recognise this fact.

Speakman, Turnbull, Pesutto, Kirkup, Morrison and the like, shed votes and gain none. It is clear.

Howard, Abbott and Dutton gain votes, they bring the base home and middle Australia like them.

It is time for the Teal chasing, lobbyist lead, weak sauce Liberal Party to be relegated to the dustbin of history.

It is time to restore the Liberal Party to the Party of principle, of Menzies, Howard and Abbott. A true right leaning option, for the referendums No voters to cling to.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 4:06 am

As long as middle class welfare is consigned to bin as well.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 19, 2024 12:17 am

Peter Dutton will announce ­nuclear reactors will be commonwealth-owned and operated under similar schemes to those overseeing Snowy Hydro and the NBN, as Jim Chalmers attempts a renewables reset by placing new “community benefit” principles at the centre of Labor’s Future Made in Australia Act.

The Australian can reveal the tightly held nuclear policy to be announced on Wednesday, which does not incorporate wider climate and emissions targets, was not fully briefed to shadow cabinet members on Tuesday night to avoid locations being leaked.

It’s understood Mr Dutton has briefed MPs whose electorates could host a nuclear reactor.

The release of the policy was brought forward as a result of high levels of support in community surveys commissioned by the ­Coalition across seven proposed reactor sites.

Coalition MPs will give the green light to the nuclear policy on Wednesday morning.

This comes as Dr ­Chalmers will declare the government’s plan for net zero emissions is “mainstream and middle of the road” and release Treasury’s ­Sustainable ­Finance Roadmap and new legislative details ­underpinning the government’s Future Made in Australia plan.

Labor is vowing to prioritise measures to deal with green­washing – which occurs when a company makes false or ­misleading ­statements about the environmental benefits of their product or practice – and ­improve access to climate and emissions data.

Speaking at The Australian’s inaugural Energy Nation forum in Sydney, Dr Chalmers will warn that Mr Dutton is embarking on a “nuclear road to nowhere” and ­attack the Coalition for being economically irrational and fiscally irresponsible.

The Australian revealed in February that the seven sites were expected to be in Coalition seats including in the Latrobe Valley in Victoria, the Hunter Valley in NSW, Collie in WA, Port Augusta in South Australia, and the ­southwest Queensland electorate of Maranoa, held by Nationals leader David Littleproud.

Great work!

Oz

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 4:02 am
Reply to  Top Ender

Simple advertising for the SFL’S, a room with a light on and the other in darkness.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 19, 2024 12:19 am

Leprechaun to be denied another pot of gold?

Former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce faces a challenge to claim a $16m windfall, with the airline hiring a high-profile consulting chief to question senior leaders on whether a series of bungles will void the payment of lucrative ­bonuses.

Former Boston Consulting Group strategy chief Colin Carter was asked by the Qantas board to provide independent advice on whether the payment, double previous estimates, must be made given the litany of failures that occurred during the final years of Mr Joyce’s reign.

Mr Carter has advised Australian prime ministers and Australian Airlines during his lengthy career, and the board’s decision shapes as one of newly named chairman John Mullen’s biggest early tests at the aviation giant.
Sources said Mr Joyce and members of his executive committee, plus select board members, were currently being interviewed.

Oz

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 19, 2024 12:26 am

Care to donate to the GoFundMe page?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/meuleman-justice-fund

Peter Meuleman determined to uncover the truth about the crash that almost killed his son

Eleven years on from a near-fatal crash involving Daniel Andrews and Cath Andrews, cyclist Ryan Meuleman’s family still don’t have clarity on why Victoria Police failed so comprehensively.

Rita Panahi

It’s a David and Goliath battle in more ways than one.

On one side we have the powerful former Victorian premier Daniel Andrews – last week awarded the nation’s top honour and represented by a partner at one of the country’s most prestigious law firms – and on the other is a working-class family whose world was turned upside down in 2013 when the Andrews family’s SUV struck their teenage son.

Ryan Meuleman was lucky to survive the near-fatal accident on the Mornington Peninsula but to this day the family do not have clarity on precisely what happened and why Victoria Police failed so comprehensively to follow standard operating procedures, including securing the vehicle at the scene for forensic examination and conducting a mandatory breath test.

Andrews has claimed that Ryan “T-boned the car” and back in 2017 he said both he and wife Catherine, who was behind the wheel, had no issue with any documents concerning the case being released.

“I want to make it abundantly clear I have no objection, I have no problem, no concern, with documents being released,” he said.

But now he is fighting a Supreme Court order to provide his mobile phone records from that fateful day.

On Tuesday Ryan’s father Peter Meuleman told me he was determined to uncover the truth. “We are hoping to get justice for Ryan, it has been such a long road for us. So we would really like to get closure on the case, if we can get some honesty, transparency and justice for him,” he said on The Rita Panahi Show on Sky News.

But justice ain’t cheap.

The Meuleman family have set up a GoFundMe page to help cover legal expenses in their civil case.

“This is a really expensive legal exercise, we are a humble family from humble means and we want to fight this case, we want to get justice for Ryan,” Mr Meuleman said.

“I’m sure the Andrews camp can outspend us … they think once they’ve outspent us that we simply just go away.”

He called on Andrews to comply with the court order and rejected the notion that it was a fishing expedition.

“If you’ve got nothing to hide you’d be transparent about all of those records,” Mr Meuleman said.

“This is a legal case which is far from a fishing expedition.

“We just want clarity, closure and justice.”

Herald-Sun

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 19, 2024 10:39 am
Reply to  Top Ender

Might need to go to the High Court too.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 19, 2024 12:58 am

IIRC, it is about 10 years ago, to the day, that Israel discovered tunnels from Gaza, inside of which were weapons, gas masks, gas, grenades, handcuffs, modified motorcycles (to carry hostages fast through tunnels) and lots more.

A very chilling discovery. There was no doubt what was the intention.

Even my dog, if questioned, would tell you this indicates Hamas’ intentions in crystal clear fashion, & that Hamas would not have eased off on the yearning to pop up into Israel, kill as many people as fast as possible, get their hands on some Israeli girls & whisk them back to Gaza.

KevinM
KevinM
June 19, 2024 1:56 am

I always thought that the followers of the Tartarians were taking the pee, and their site was a spoof site.

Not anymore.

Here is the site and the latest revelation.
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“Tesla & The Cabbage Patch Kids
Public group
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8.5K members
By Guy Anderson admin.

Chapter 5 – Lost Tartarian Technology
The following is taken from my book and I would love to know if anyone has any further information on this particular subject.

Again, as with all other posts, if I can use what you provide, you will be credited for it and sent a free copy when it’s published:

To heat a Tartarian home was quite simple and the original purpose of the chimney has very little in common than those of today. Each fireplace had two goblets, or poles, either side of the opening and a metal backplate (refer to the images in the centre pages).

They didn’t burn fuel of any kind, but instead they utilised the energy transmitted from the rooftop antennas, resonators and capacitors, to then bounce ionised air between the two goblets, which was then stored within the metal backplate.

In the winter it generated heat by creating a vacuum within the chimney. In the summer the metal plate absorbed the heat and the vacuum was used to cool the room and the chimney used simply as ventilation.
Thanks,
Guy ??
#tartariantechnology #antiquitech #fireplace #tartarianempire #tartaria”
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The mind boggles, we worry about nuclear or coal power when it’s all there for the taking, “rooftop antennas, resonators and capacitors“.

Windmills move over.

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JC
JC
June 19, 2024 2:18 am

Dover

It was explained a few days after the mass murders and abductions that the Israeli government was reliant on the high security fence etc for protection.

How does this incredible report invalidate or add anything new the Israelis were too reliant on tech and they failed to act despite being ripped off? That is, notwithstanding the fact Israeli intel would be overloaded with threats all the time.

Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 4:08 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 19, 2024 4:22 am
KevinM
KevinM
June 19, 2024 5:01 am

GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 4:12 am

Reply to  feelthebern

Disappointed he didn’t get the crap smacked out of him.

I’m in no great shape but even I could’ve beaten the crap out of him, but, but that would’ve made him the victim.

The way things are over there and coming here, better err on the side of caution when it comes to physical altercations.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 5:38 am
Reply to  KevinM

Disagree, that is one of the reasons we are where we are now. People getting away with being arseholes. I have a few medals and cups from competition. I no longer remember who I beat, but I sure remember who beat me.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 19, 2024 5:46 am

The Australian revealed in February that the seven sites were expected to be in Coalition seats including in the Latrobe Valley in Victoria, the Hunter Valley in NSW, Collie in WA, Port Augusta in South Australia, and the ­southwest Queensland electorate of Maranoa, held by Nationals leader David Littleproud.

This is so arse about.

The way to do it is to have towns, regions, states bid for the nuclear power plants.
With the trade off that anyone within 100kms gets discounted electricity for a period of time, say 20 years.
It turns the narrative from a government telling people where they could potentially go to being the punters demanding it.
There’s going to be cross over between regions that want it & regions are suitable.

And the need for taxpayer subsidies (as per what Dutton said last week) isn’t needed is if you give 100 year exclusivity on providing nuclear services to Australia, you’ll see consortiums line up & pay for it.

Dynamic policy making & delivery isn’t really Australia’s thing.

Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 8:48 am
Reply to  feelthebern

Bern, watch public opinion turn. Even if Mr Potato Head’s twentysomething “advisors” think nukes are a negative, come election time, Australians — especially in bush electorates — will be demanding it and those who miss out will consider themselves losers.

The Australian ban on nuclear energy is a lingering expression of political and social backwardness, which the normies are now sick to death of.

A 2013-style LNP landslide is on the cards next year IMO.

KevinM
KevinM
June 19, 2024 5:52 am

Being in a less than ideal shape I might take up yoga, provided she is the teacher.

Any cute owl competition?

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feelthebern
feelthebern
June 19, 2024 5:53 am

Imagine the media coverage if a GOP member of the house said they were a faith healer.

Dem “Squad” Member Claims She’s A Faith Healer & Cured Tumors With Her Hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22sRO9X5A4w

?

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 19, 2024 6:06 am

“ABC News Radio – coming to you from Gadigal Lands.”
And assisting in the fragmentation of Australia.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 19, 2024 10:57 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Shut it down. Give it back.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
June 19, 2024 6:57 am

USA being destroyed from within:
Connecticut Bar Association warns lawyers not to have opinions about the law fare being used on Trump.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/connecticut-bar-association-warns-lawyers-that-dissenting-opinions/

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
June 19, 2024 7:00 am

Too many bad actors in too many places for the USA to survive:
Head of Chicago Teachers Union tells radio host that conservatives do not want black kids to learn to read.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/head-chicago-teachers-union-tells-radio-host-conservatives/

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 7:31 am

Neither do teachers in Chicago.

Reading is soooo white. And as for writing and arithmetic….

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 7:11 am

Husband just made a good point. He’s sick of the talk about the “Climate Debate” . He really reckons we need to call it the “Energy Debate”. We need to stop the climate nuts dominating the debate by use of language.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 19, 2024 7:37 am
Reply to  Vicki

See you just didn’t marry him for his looks.

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 7:46 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

That too! But you are right……the love of my life….can’t imagine life without him.

one old bruce
one old bruce
June 19, 2024 7:37 am

My wife just needed an MRI. They booked her for a Sunday evening, which seemed surprising. But they told her they have bookings until 11.30pm, 7 days a week now. I was reminded of this when I just saw this article about NHS waiting lists in the UK, because of the lockdowns, but both parties blame the other:
NHS Waiting Lists – Don’t Mention Lockdown – The Daily Sceptic

Same for all the DV ‘debates’ now I should think. Being locked up in an inner city apartment for 22 hours a day during the lockdowns sure sorted out some people’s ‘relationships’, sadly. But, oh toxic this, and feminist that, and don’t mention the l.o.c.k….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 12:12 pm
Reply to  one old bruce

My recent MRI was on a Sunday in Sydney and the place was busy.

johanna
johanna
June 19, 2024 7:46 am

I have mentioned before that I enjoy reading leftie Slate‘s agony columns for shits and giggles. The pretzel logic and other contortions they go through to justify their worldview are often hilarious.

But they are also revealing, and explain why their offspring grow up entitled and unhappy.

Toddlers typically hit others because they do not have the vocabulary and emotional regulation to express their feelings. It’s common for kids this age to behave perfectly well at school, and then make a complete 180 at home. Your son might be using all his self-control at school and is spent by the time he gets home. (The positive side to this, of course, is that he feels safe enough with you and your husband to act out at home, knowing you love him no matter what.) It’s also possible that he expects to get his way at home, being an only child, whereas at school he is one of many kids, so everyone has to compromise. All of this is perfectly normal.

When younger toddlers hit, the conventional advice is to give a verbal correction and an immediate consequence (even if that means you walking away). You want to extinguish the behavior by starving the kid of your attention. For older kids, though, you can start to bring in more language to help them process the situation; with my son, that started around 4 years old. I would interrupt the tantrum behavior with a firm, mom-voiced, “We do not hit/slam doors.” Then I would gently get on his level, make eye contact, and follow a basic verbal formula: name the feeling, validate it, explain myself, offer a solution, and offer a hug. It might look something like this:
“You seem angry right now. You’re angry because you want me to fix your book, and I said no. I totally get it; it bothers me when my things are broken, too. The thing is, it’s already past our bedtime and we need to get some sleep. But I can take the book with me and tape it before breakfast tomorrow, or we can do it together after school. Which sounds better? OK. Now, do you want a hug?”

https://slate.com/human-interest/2024/04/nephew-father-example-family-parenting-advice.html

The hitter is three years old. He hasn’t got a clue what this woman is talking about. But, hitting his parents gets him a lot of attention and babble followed by a hug.

And, what’s with the obsession with giving kids who have the IQ of a smart Kelpie and the emotional maturity of (deleted – don’t want Dover to get sued) all of these choices? I can’t recall ever being asked if I wanted the blue T shirt or the white one, I just got dressed.

The grown up versions may be obnoxious, but it’s not all their fault.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 19, 2024 12:27 pm
Reply to  johanna

I’ve seen where mums are using sign language for please and thank you and I love you etc for littlies who are not yet verbal, seems to work well.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 19, 2024 7:51 am

Kicking arse big time with our CFA renewables strike.
Main news bulletins in Vic. The government is scrambling for a defence that’s easily countered with facts.

bons
bons
June 19, 2024 9:22 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Gez, when matters settle it would be instructive to learn how the CFS was mobilised.

In QLD, the Union Super Funds have done their most destructive work in locations remote from public gaze but that is changing as solar farms move into agricultural areas. Mobilising the RFS would be more difficult than in Vic, but there is potential.

There is significant residual resentment within the RFS over their emasculation by the Chook and her union firery thugs.

If you want to witness an after training drinks session implode, just mention the outrage of RFS members over being forced to undertake anti kiddy fiddleing training.

Cassie of Sydney
June 19, 2024 7:52 am

So, last night I had the misfortune to view a clip showing a piece of low IQ scum spit at an elderly little Jewish man wearing a yarmulke. The putrid piece of scum was shouting…’from the river to the sea’. Yep, and that folks sums up the progressive left in 2024, they have and are emboldening human garbage like the fatso big boob spitting male in the footage. To be honest, I found the footage distressing.

Remind me, just who are real Nazis in 2024?

Pogria
Pogria
June 19, 2024 8:09 am

Cassie,
the light here is that, many people came to the old gentleman’s aid.
Fatso moob man was not expecting that.

Cassie of Sydney
June 19, 2024 8:25 am
Reply to  Pogria

Yep.

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 8:32 am
Reply to  Pogria

Thank goodness for that!

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 19, 2024 8:00 am

I came home from hospital last night , yeah!

Kidneys now working at 11%, which is 11% more than they were on Sunday. The only downside at the moment is having to use the loo a lot. It looks like the medicos clobbered them with multiple contrast CT scans and antibiotics they were treating my fever for.

Bad news is my blood sugar, which was a little high , but under control, went totally haywire, they had stopped the tablets because of kidney interaction, and I am now on insulin.

The good news is I don’t have Covid, flu, RSV, HIV/aids, or any of the 3 hepatitis:-)

All things considered, happy to upright and breathing!

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:09 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Great news, Dio.

In light of the blood sugar news, best avoid the chocolate milk for now. 😀

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 19, 2024 8:25 am
Reply to  Roger

ATM everything is so haywire, the diabetic educator said go ahead and have the celebratory sugar free chocolate milk. It was sooo good.

It’s nice to celebrate the little things.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:48 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Thank heavens for artificial sweeteners! (And stevia.)

I’ve been off sugar for years now, not because of diabetes but as a general health measure. I note now that scientists believe a high sugar low fibre diet is causing mutations to the gut microbiomes of young people.

Pogria
Pogria
June 19, 2024 8:10 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Well done Diogenes. 😀

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 8:30 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Wow. Chin up, we are all thinking of you here Diogenes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 19, 2024 8:47 am
Reply to  Diogenes

All the best, Dio.

johanna
johanna
June 19, 2024 8:58 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Hang in. Best wishes.

Tom
Tom
June 19, 2024 8:58 am
Reply to  Diogenes

We’re riding the bumps with you, Diogenes!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 19, 2024 11:01 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Good result. Take care and follow any instructions going forward. Basically where I ended up – things should stay alright if everything else remains OK.

shatterzzz
June 19, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Oh dear .. putz my kidney overload probs due to prostate into a very minor ctaegory .. all the best …..!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 12:17 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

I am so amazed and impressed at how people here cope with some terrible afflictions with good grace and humour. It’s humbling stuff. Hope all goes well for you, Diogenes, from now on and for all others here who are in medical strife of one sort or another.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 19, 2024 12:30 pm
Reply to  Diogenes

Plenty of protein and fat might help your diabetic tendencies. Dave Mac at No Carb Life has lots of ideas.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 19, 2024 1:13 pm
Reply to  Diogenes

Best wishes…

Chris
Chris
June 19, 2024 4:26 pm
Reply to  Diogenes

Keep up the good work Diogenes!

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 19, 2024 8:00 am

Stand by for the Green-Left media to go ooga-booga on nuclear again.
Fluffy Annaliese dredged up that old standby “nuclear waste”, which even Mr. Gaia himself (James Lovelock) said he’d be happy storing under his house! Australia has vast areas of geologically stable vacant land where a waste storage facility could go, but experience shows that there’s always an alternative bunch of “Elders” that enviro-loons can enlist to object to a site which genuine elders have already OK’d. Same as Gas Processing plants onshore in WA.

Pogria
Pogria
June 19, 2024 8:21 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Fluffy Annaliese is a perfect description of that stupid female.

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 8:28 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

At a recent energy debate organised by the IPA a nuclear expert stated that so little real danger exists re nuclear waste that it is even stored on site in many reactors OS.

Crossie
Crossie
June 19, 2024 9:06 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Why not store nuclear waste at Maralinga in Woomera? It’s already out of bounds due to the nuclear tests there in the 50s.

cohenite
June 19, 2024 10:22 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

IFRs use nuclear waste from other reactors; and Natrium reactors, Molten Salts, don’t have any waste.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 19, 2024 8:06 am

There’s facts Gez and then there be horseshit on a grand scale. Daily Telegraph:

An Indigenous academic, who criticised the cultural and ­environmental impacts of the controversial Illawarra offshore wind zone, was recently the recipient of a $300,000 ­research grant from the Albanese government.

Dr Jodi Edwards, an adviser and leader in the local Dharawal community, was commissioned in February to “explore how Indigenous songlines have protected whales and dolphins over hundreds of years”.

NSW south coast residents have expressed anger over Labor’s decision to approve the offshore wind project, which will host 300 industrial wind turbines, standing 268m tall, and spanning a total area of 1022 square kilometres.

During public consultation, a range of community members voiced concerns about the turbines having an impact on birdlife and whales.

Also contained in the 14,000 public submissions on the ­project was a warning from Shellharbour City Council, which said: “First Nations people are highly impacted by the proposed offshore renewable energy zone.

“Whales are a totem for the Dharawal people and are considered tribal ancestors, treated with the same respect as immediate relatives.

“There are concerns that the region will displace whales from their traditional travel routes and migration pathways, which would greatly impact cultural connections to the Illawarra region and disruption to songlines.”

Dr Edwards had also previously expressed opposition to the wind zone, writing on Facebook in August 2022: “O/S (offshore) wind farms equals $$ V’s (versus) impacts on fish, marine mammals, invertebrates, birds and bats.

“Neg (negative) effects, ­destruction of underwater Aboriginal sites and artefacts, habitat displacement and exposure to electromagnetic fields and u/water (underwater) noise.”

When responding to a comment on her Facebook page, Dr Edwards claimed she “wasn’t consulted about the decision to put them there”.

In February this year, Dr Edwards and the University of Wollongong were awarded a $300,000 grant, for a project called Unbroken Whispers.

A federal government press release in February claimed Dr Edwards would “study Indigenous environmental knowledge about the connections between land, sea and sky, with a particular focus on whales”.

When asked to comment on the funding for Dr Edwards and whether it was in any way linked to the Illawarra offshore wind zone, a spokesperson for Energy Minister Chris Bowen said: “Prior to a feasibility licence being awarded, project developers must engage in specific consultation with traditional owners.

“Licences will only be awarded to developers whose proposed projects do the most to support Australia’s workforce and energy security, protect the environment and cultural heritage of First Nations communities and share the marine space with shipping, tourism and fishing industries.”

Dr Edwards and the University of Wollongong declined to comment when contacted.

So did these other people who voiced concern get a bit of dosh?
And underwater Aboriginal sites? Who knew that those along the coast were your regular Jacques Cousteaus. FMD

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:13 am

During all the talk on nuclear today, keep an eye on the small print for mention of gas.

If they’re going to dump coal (which is stupid, but…) we’re going to need gas “to 2050 and beyond” as Labor’s resources Minister King has conceded.

Given the lag time for nuclear plants, Dutton needs to take on the gas cartel and move towards a domestic reservation policy or propose another mechanism to guarantee supply at an affordable price or we’re stuffed.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
June 19, 2024 8:16 am

Via transterrestrial.com, interesting article by Niall Ferguson

https://www.thefp.com/p/were-all-soviets-now

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 19, 2024 8:18 am

Australia has vast areas of geologically stable vacant land where a waste storage facility could go
That, plus strip mining and keeping the coasts apart is what much of it is only good for.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 19, 2024 12:40 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

We desperately need to build a canal from PortaGutta (Port Augusta) to Lake Eyrie. Flood the place permanently and recreate the environment that delivered rainfall to the Red Center.
I want it done more for the screeching and tears from the Greens that will keep them occupied while we get on with it.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:18 am
shatterzzz
June 19, 2024 8:18 am
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Rossini
Rossini
June 19, 2024 9:44 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

Teenager? more like arsehole
Punishment should have been similar to his actions except with cement shoes

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 19, 2024 12:45 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

Whilst inside the courtroom it was heard the now 15-year-old, who can’t be shown for legal reasons, was remorseful, once he left, he raised his middle finger to those waiting outside.

Little bastard will kill someone – probably a woman – because that’s who his last two victims were.
The Magistrate needs removing on grounds of competency.
20 lashes with a Rattan Cane would see him a little more remorseful.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 19, 2024 8:20 am

Yep Roger.
AEMO manger lass told us that gas was a backup for the ISP. I pointed out that it was not a backup but integral to the plan.
Rhetoric meets facts.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:37 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Sounds like you had an encounter with a Top Lady, Gez.

Safe hands.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:21 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 19, 2024 8:21 am

Seems like Dr Edwards has been bribed

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:25 am

The latest is that this is all a deep fake by malevolent forces.

Biden’s Brain Malfunctions as He Announces MASS AMNESTY for Illegals Months Before Election

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 19, 2024 12:59 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Yes. That’s the plan.
America will vote in a Communist government after it spends everything, pushes the nation into a Depression and the government that did this promises to feed everyone.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 19, 2024 8:28 am

Found out recently that the commie chinks expect kowtow pronunciation as well as all of our debbil debbil gas and coal at rock bottom prices.
So prem “Li Qiang” is somehow “Lee Chang”
and Pres “Xi Jinping” is “She Ginping”.
I say, enough! of this contorted nonsense. If the celestials- or the Krauts, or the Frogs, or the First Nationses, any of the proud ancient cultures want to adopt our sensible roman alphabet, they can play a straight bat with pronunciation and definitely not expect to command their very own exclusive sub-rules of contradictory lisps and stutters. We Proud British have a perfectly sensible system of keeping spittle and gobs of upper respiratory viruses out of polite discourse. The exceptions to the rule- say, Anthony Albanese- stick out as an instant indication of lickspittle midwits.
This has not been thoroughly thought through.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 8:57 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

The old Wade-Giles transliteration was much easier to follow, compared to PinYin

one old bruce
one old bruce
June 19, 2024 10:50 am
Reply to  Boambee John

Umm, not really guys. There never was a place named ‘pee king’. Instead by Wade Giles the pronunciation is exactly the same as now with Pe pronounced ‘Bei’ and king pronounced ‘Jing’ with a hard J (not soft ‘zzz’!) Also WJ had the little numerals over each syllable to tell you the tone, just as Pinyin has wavy lines. But most typewriters can’t do either so…

Oh and Wally – Giles and Wade were thoroughly British chaps who worked out this system. Pinyin is better because it uses fewer letters.

one old bruce
one old bruce
June 19, 2024 10:51 am
Reply to  one old bruce

‘WJ’? I meant WG, oh dear, losing it.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:28 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:30 am

This lunatic is one of the most powerful people in the world today.

Klaus Schwab: WEF Young Global Leaders’ Brains ‘Will Be Replicated with AI’ When They Die

Crossie
Crossie
June 19, 2024 9:33 am
Reply to  Indolent

So we will then have a whole army of artificial idiots to contend with.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:30 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 19, 2024 8:30 am

The heckling again of Seinfeld and vandalism of Josh Burns MP office are adding to the mountain of reasons why ordinary people might be becoming very anti pro Palestinians and anybody who might support them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 19, 2024 8:51 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

I agree with the commentator who said the Palestinians had the least effective National Liberation Front of the Twentieth Century.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 19, 2024 8:32 am

So Dr Aunty pocketed the caaaaash and sidestepped the payoff via Twitter.
Got to respect that, a bit.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 8:32 am

One more reason why vegans are so joyless? Apart from the totalitarian gene, that is.
Eating cheese plays a role in healthy, happy aging – who are we to argue?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 19, 2024 8:34 am

Fluffy Annaliese dredged up that old standby “nuclear waste”,

Part of the AUKUS deal is Australia takes nuclear waste and not just from the US & UK but also their “partners”.
No waste, no subs.
There’s actually the possibility that we take waste for years before we take a single sub.

Does Annaliese have have a problem with that waste?
Or doesn’t she know about that?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 8:58 am
Reply to  feelthebern

It’s not in the daily lefturd talking points, so she doesn’t know.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:35 am

In February this year, Dr Edwards and the University of Wollongong were awarded a $300,000 grant, for a project called Unbroken Whispers.

A federal government press release in February claimed Dr Edwards would “study Indigenous environmental knowledge about the connections between land, sea and sky, with a particular focus on whales”.

Australia has possibly just overtaken Canada as the stupidest country in the developed world.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:51 am
Reply to  Indolent

‘America risks being seen as harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend.”

Bernard Lewis

Rosie
Rosie
June 19, 2024 8:40 am

I stumbled on a raging controversy on twitter about Tasmanian Aboriginals abandoning fish consumption around 2000 years ago (that and other things)
Other than typical Palaeolithic fish traps in rivers and creeks is there any evidence that Aboriginal people ventured out to sea, like in boats or on rafts?
They might have spear fished in shallow water but I don’t know that they had nets etc.
I’m very dubious about the relationship with whales, other than the occasional beached ones.
And again if late 19th Aboriginals adopted Christianity, apparently with enthusiasm as so many became pastors and ministers I doubt the clarity of handed down spiritual beliefs and more importantly why we should care about them.

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 8:44 am
Reply to  Rosie

Rosie, I’m not sure if you are just referring to deep water fishing. But they did construct quite ingenious fish traps ( I have one from Maningrida) for streams & rivers. These were made from strong vines & had an inner second tunnel which traps the fish.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 19, 2024 12:24 pm
Reply to  Vicki

One wonders at what external cultural influences may have been at play in the northern coastal regions too. They were less isolated than other aboriginal areas. New Guinea slash and burn agriculturalists had very good net-making skills and the ideas could easily have percolated across by occasional visitors or via the Torres Strait islands. I’ve been amazed as some of the more advanced sorts of artifacts made in the north that don’t seem to be replicated, as far as we know, in the south or west of the continent.

Vicki
Vicki
June 19, 2024 8:46 am
Reply to  Rosie

The fish traps that I know of are from the mainland, of course.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 8:55 am
Reply to  Rosie

I doubt the clarity of handed down spiritual beliefs and more importantly why we should care about them.

Indigenous pseudo-anthropology is the attempt to underwrite the claim of “world’s oldest continuous culture” with academic capital.

The revolution is being subsidised…to the tune of $300K in this instance.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 19, 2024 9:01 am
Reply to  Roger

“world’s oldest continuous culture”

Which it isn’t – that honor belongs to the San Bushmen of Southern Africa, and don’t the local “activists” get stroppy when you point that out.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 8:40 am

Cassie

Yep, and that folks sums up the progressive left in 2024, they have and are emboldening human garbage like the fatso big boob spitting male in the footage. 

mUntyfa was on TV?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 19, 2024 8:42 am

Dr Edwards would “study Indigenous environmental knowledge about the connections between land, sea and sky, with a particular focus on whales”.

Well she’ll get a nice close up look at them when her whales start washing up dead on the beaches. Take a peg for your nose lady, apparently they pong quite a bit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 19, 2024 8:49 am

Jewish Labor MP Josh Burns’ St Kilda office attacked, set on fire by pro-Palestine vandalsThe St Kilda office of Josh Burns has been attacked by pro-Palestine vandals who lit a fire at the premises in a significant escalation of the violence directed at Labor MPs.

From the Hun.

Muddy
Muddy
June 19, 2024 9:19 am

Will any of the meeja enablers label this as (alleged) arson, or will they continue with the ‘passionate activists’ propaganda? (How many of the announcers & jismists will be fully aroused when presenting this news?).

It cannot be long before someone is seriously hurt by the actions of these foreign-funded social insurgents.

Rabz
June 19, 2024 8:54 am

Dr Edwards would “study Indigenous environmental knowledge about the connections between land, sea and sky, with a particular focus on whales”.

The concept of land rights for gay whales goes from parody to reality in a mere several decades.

The sentence quoted above is a steaming load of preposterous superstitious animist horsesh*t.

Having said that, the proposed offshore eco-crucifix farm on the south coast is an absolute obscenity and must not proceed under any circumstances.

So much for cost benefit analyses. What a joke this country has become.

Speaking of, very edifying to see Dim Chambers attacking Dr Mutton for being “economically irrational and fiscally irresponsible”.

Hypocrisy, thy name is the Ozzie Labore Pardee.

Rosie
Rosie
June 19, 2024 8:55 am

I specifically mentioned fish traps on inland waters and they were no more ingenious than those constructed by Palaeolithic people in other parts of the world.
The thing is, other people moved on to rods and nets and boats etc.
Mesolithic fish trap from Ireland
https://www.museum.ie/en-IE/Collections-Research/Collection/Resilience/Artefact/Test-6/f979cde3-83d8-49a1-a7bb-6f1409aa8ff4

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 19, 2024 8:55 am

SW WA pre-contacts loved whales, in particular as a topical application for arthritis in the oldies, who could be smelled coming miles off.

Indolent
Indolent
June 19, 2024 9:01 am

Dr. John Campbell

Pfizer court case, Kansas

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 19, 2024 9:05 am

Nice to see Please Explain has been picked up by WUWT, and Pierre Gosselin likewise at Zerohedge today. Well done that blogger!

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 19, 2024 9:05 am

I’m not sure how much longer that I can withstand this terrible global warming heat!
Shirley, the ice will melt soon.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 19, 2024 9:09 am

Nazi salute and public display of symbols to be punishable by up to five years in prison in proposed WA lawsWed, 19 June 2024 2:00AM

Josh Zimmerman

Displaying a Nazi symbol in public — or performing a Nazi salute — will be punishable by up to five years in prison under new laws that will be introduced to Parliament on Wednesday.
The WA crackdown comes amid a recent rise in anti-Semitism following the outbreak of the Israel-Gaza war in the wake of a Hamas-led attack on the Jewish state on October 7.
Under the proposed laws, it would become illegal to display a wide range of Nazi symbols in a public space.
They include the Hakenkreuz — better known as the swastika — as well as the Nazi flag and eagle, SS bolts and depictions of the Nazi salute.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 9:14 am

Don’t you love it when our politicians spring into action…80 years too late.

Meanwhile, what about the Hamas flag and paraphernalia, IS state, Hizbollah and so on?

Cowards.

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johanna
johanna
June 19, 2024 9:42 am

When they start arresting pro-Palestinian thugs, I might believe them.

Till then, it’s all bunting.

johanna
johanna
June 19, 2024 9:13 am

An Indigenous academic, who criticised the cultural and ­environmental impacts of the controversial Illawarra offshore wind zone, was recently the recipient of a $300,000 ­research grant from the Albanese government.
Dr Jodi Edwards, an adviser and leader in the local Dharawal community, was commissioned in February to “explore how Indigenous songlines have protected whales and dolphins over hundreds of years”.

How on earth could that happen?

Could I get a $300k grant to ‘explore how kebab outlets have created cultural songlines across Melbourne?’ Maybe.

They’re havin’ a laff.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 19, 2024 10:01 am
Reply to  johanna

Unfortunately, the laff is at our expense, in more ways than one.

Still, it will be an interesting test of how much is needed to buy an indig wakademik.

Roger
Roger
June 19, 2024 9:16 am

Nazi salute and public display of symbols to be punishable by up to five years in prison in proposed WA laws

Don’t you love it when our politicians spring into action…80 years after the fact.

Meanwhile, what about the Hamas flag and paraphernalia, IS state, Hizbollah and so on?

Cowards.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 19, 2024 9:22 am

After we Rabz the ABC, can we do CSIRO next?

Crossie
Crossie
June 19, 2024 9:27 am

the recipient of a $300,000 ­research grant from the Albanese government.

Dr Jodi Edwards, an adviser and leader in the local Dharawal community, was commissioned in February to “explore how Indigenous songlines have protected whales and dolphins over hundreds of years”.

The animal protection thing is a modern obsession of the comfortably well off and getting a $300,000 will certainly make Jodi comfortable. I expect the indigenes would have been more interested in how to get their hands on all that meat floating offshore.

We are being defrauded of our taxpayer money at every turn.

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