Open Thread – Mon 15 July 2024


Ruins in the moonlit landscape, Arnold Böcklin, 1849

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Bruce in WA
July 15, 2024 12:50 am

Wow! Already!

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 15, 2024 2:12 am

It seems the shooter has the same name & address as FEC records of a donor to a hard left fundraising platform that finances “The Progressive Turnout Project” an outfit which helps elect hard left candidates.

If this is fair dinkum, it raises questions as to the motive of this person to register as a republican.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 3:09 am

Dr F on the old fred…

Unsurprisingly, given the events, this is currently shaping up as: hopeless nutter patsy, set up by the Deep State to fire the convenient fatal shots, and then be conveniently potted into eternal silence.

Well, at least this time they didn’t leave it to a terminally ill nightclub owner to pot the suspect on live television 24 hours after the original event.
Much tidier work.
Two things which interest me.
1. Mr Crooks lived about an hour away from the rally site. How much reccy effort did he put in? Please don’t tell me he just turned up, climbed onto the roof and started taking pot-shots.
2. How long had he been interested in guns and how much practice had he had with this weapon? I mean, it was probably not a difficult exercise from a range of 120 metres, but not something a rank amateur could easily pull off either.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 15, 2024 3:18 am

The big question is why the Secret Service left unattended/unmonitored an obvious shooting platform so close to the speech dais.

And also, why the local police snipers were the ones close in and not specialist Secret Service ones.

A review of CB transmissions might be interesting to explain why the police snipers did not shoot until the assassin had let fly three shots before firing themselves especially as members of the public had clearly spotted and called out the presence of the shooter.

A big fail in security or a deliberate one?

Tom
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m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:14 am

Decent roundup of what is known about the shooter.

Turns out he is actually a lone wolf. In Pennsylvania, you have to wait until you are 21 to be allowed to buy a handgun, but you can buy an AR-15 when you are 18. Crazy.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:26 am

“multiple media outlets are also reporting the shooter donated to a progressive political action committee the day President Biden was inaugurated’

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:29 am

I’ve seen the rhetoric.
If Trump gets in he’ll make himself president for life etc. I’m sure there are many Americans who think murdering him is a justifiable act, the tone of the left being so malevolent.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:32 am

“I never, so long as I live, ever want to see another inept female secret service or law enforcement officer protecting President Trump ever again.

The image of tiny female agents laughably standing waist high is forever ingrained in my mind. Between the tiny, panicky women and the hesitating, unprepared snipers on the roof, the entire thing is a massive black eye for America.”
https://x.com/WarlordDilley/status/1812486435481518201?t=85zJD3ALZF3lsvLKMlZUEQ&s=19

m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:33 am

So a local cop did get up a ladder and confront Crooks, then got down again when Crooks pointed his rifle at him. Crooks then quickly took his shot/s at Trump, then the SS picked him off.

Insanely, since Pennsylvania is an open carry state, there was nothing the cops could legally do to Crooks until he started shooting. Crooks broke no laws until he pulled the trigger.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 6:40 am

I see our resident Jew hating pervert apologist Nazi is trying to blame “gun control” and ‘lone wolf’…..apologies you have to laugh at their chutzpah. He refuses to blame the years of far-left, progressive demonisation and all round derangement of Donald Trump and the men and women who vote for him.

Our Nazi (like all Nazis) is a putrid hypocrite.

The left own this, as does our resident Nazi. For year he and his ilk have thrown their sanctimonious slop at our way, all the time stoking and fomenting violence at us….calling us ‘far-right’, ‘racist’, ‘extremists’ and ‘Nazis’. I remember his sniggering when women were assaulted last year in an Auckland Park, I remember his sniggering when Tony Abbott was headbutted in a Hobart Street. Well, it’s time we scooped up that slop in buckets, held the left throat’s down and force fed their slop back to them.

There was nothing ‘lone wolf’ about yesterday, what happened yesterday was the end result of years of leftist demonisation of Trump and his voters. It’s time we held them to account, beginning with the Nazi here.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:45 am

Donald Trump Jnr is also a fan of the Demolition Ranch channel on YouTube, and has been pictured smiling with its creator. Small world.

As for you Cranky, tell me more about how much you love Tommy Robinson and the Le Pen family.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:45 am
Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:49 am
Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 6:52 am

“there was nothing the cops could legally do to Crooks until he started shooting”
Okay Mr legal eagle.
How about the more obvious, the local cop was scared because someone was pointing a rifle at him while his weapon was in its holster.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 6:52 am

I agree Rosie. Keep on demonising a person, dehumanising them. It’s malevolent, makes them expendable, fair game for weaker minds.

Dover made the excellent point yesterday, bolstered by many…many other commenters here.

This is the fruit of years of media hatred and gaslighting. Deliberate, orchestrated, malevolent. All motivated by the quest for power and money. Members of the Democratic Party should hang their heads in shame, but they won’t. They’ll be out and proud, parading with “jokes” and bullshit. And not just them. The hatred has seeped into the Republican Party also.

Some of the stuff I heard yesterday from family members made my stomach turn.

The stage is now set for another round of urban warfare such as we saw in 2020. Calls for “calm” from the very people who stoked the fire and lit the match.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 6:58 am

Hey Nazi, I do like Tommy Robinson, who’s more of a man that you are or ever will be.

As for the Le Pen family, not once here, not ever, have I ever professed ‘love for them’, so your slop is desperately misplaced. I certainly have no love for Marine Le Pen’s father but here’s a fact, the daughter does not share the Jew hatred of her father, no more than the Kennedy children shared the Jew hatred of their own father, Joseph Kennedy Snr.

Now Nazi, you’ve had some attention here this morning, you’ve thrown your slop, and the slop has been thrown back at you. Piss off back to your basement, and fantasise about women being punched up by perverts in a park, that particular slop seems to be one of your favourite ‘slops’.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 7:04 am

In Pennsylvania police have to wait until criminals pointing a gun at them get a shot off before they can shoot.
ThaTS thE LAw!

Beertruk
July 15, 2024 7:04 am

Im interested in what the comments will be from the crones of the View, Madcow and the Joy Reid cretin on this turn of events.
They are already in the crapper so hopefully they will be flushed to the septic tank..

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 7:09 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but pointing a firearm at a law enforcement officer is an offence. And the retribution fast and explosive.

Regardless of “open carry” laws.

Please stop clutching at silly straws.

An investigation into the timeline of events should yield a bit more useful insight. My gut feeling is gross incompetence coupled with opportunism. If that incompetence was coloured by “it’s only Trump and Orange Man Bad”, only their seared consciences can inform them.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 7:09 am

You idolise so many fascists, Cranky.

Nope, Nazi. It’s you who idolises fascists and Nazis, from Hamas to Antifa.

Go fantasise about women being punched in park. You’ve admitted here, on these pages, over the years, how much you fantasise about ‘punching Nazis’. Well, here’s an idea, go look at yourself in a mirror because you’ll see a Nazi in the reflection, that Nazi being you!

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 7:12 am

Expect a few progs will be joining unemployment lines after the comments they made yesterday.
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1812543799303753955?t=zjbfPUNBNRr02VpI1bVEIw&s=19

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 15, 2024 7:14 am

BBC weasel fears for his safety after the rest of the world deliberately misinterprets his carefully crafted satire.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 7:17 am

Three five foot three female secret service agents guarding an over six foot tall man is gross incompetence.
It takes more than rocking a pair of sunglasses.
Those women and the person that hired them should all be working somewhere else.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 7:22 am

Just to lighten things up…

I’m still away from home, so Seven is the “news” on the TV.

Chiron under Barr’s talking head –

TRUMP SURVIVES ASSASSINATION

How do these numpties get these coveted media jerbs?

will
will
July 15, 2024 7:23 am

simples. so he can voter for the least likely to be elected R candidate during the primaries

Last edited 5 months ago by will
Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 7:24 am

I see that mUnturd is still spreading disinformation and misinformation about the Trump shooting.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 7:25 am

Expect a few progs will be joining unemployment lines after the comments they made yesterday.

Just further to this, speaking to a GB News reporter yesterday about the attempted assassination of his friend, Nigel Farage made the point that the left are never made to suffer any consequences whatsoever for their words and actions which incite violence.

Back in 2019, after Nigel Farage was assaulted by having a milkshake thrown over him, an ugly toad of a UK comedian named Jo Brand said on BBC radio that….

Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”

She was referring to the Farage assault and asking why he wasn’t daubed in battery acid. Despite outrage and despite numerous complaints made to the BBC, including one by Farage, nothing has happened to Jo Brand. She is still a regular on BBC television and radio.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 7:29 am
Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 7:34 am

Keep on demonising a person, dehumanising them. It’s malevolent, makes them expendable, fair game for weaker minds.

We’ve seen this template here, with Cardinal Pell, with Tony Abbott during the Warringah 2019 election.

Just to remind people about that election campaign in Warringah, an unbelievably vicious and sordid campaign by the left to remove Abbott, after weeks of venom directed against Abbott and his team, on election eve a Liberal campaigner was stabbed with a corkscrew on a Warringah street.

Yeah, that’s the left in action. Here’s a truth…..

The left like and approve of violence

Oh and I almost forgot, remember when Andrew Bolt was assaulted in broad daylight on a Melbourne street? Remember how our resident Nazi thought that was a hoot?

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 15, 2024 7:36 am
Anders
Anders
July 15, 2024 7:37 am

Oh and I almost forgot, remember when Andrew Bolt was assaulted in broad daylight on a Melbourne street? Remember how our resident Nazi thought that was a hoot?

He also laughed when Rand Paul was attacked by his neighbour.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 7:38 am

mUnter:

In Pennsylvania, you have to wait until you are 21 to be allowed to buy a handgun, but you can buy an AR-15 when you are 18. Crazy.

When can they decide to change gender? 5? 7?

That’s all good though?

Zippster
Zippster
July 15, 2024 7:43 am
Last edited 5 months ago by Zippster
Crossie
Crossie
July 15, 2024 7:49 am

I wonder if some people are drawn to leftie politics because they are prone to violence or they become violent when they get involved with leftie politics? Is it nature or nurture?

Last edited 5 months ago by Crossie
johanna
johanna
July 15, 2024 7:50 am

calli
July 15, 2024 7:15 am

Reply to  Rosie
Good. Well done that Congressman.

Nope.

That Congressman wanted to withdraw Trump’s SS protection detail entirely a few months ago. He’s a creep as well as a hypocrite.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 7:52 am

Just gaze in awe at the stones on this bloke (the Hun):

Donald Trump was back on the golf course at Bedminster a day after an attempt on his life, as the FBI said the failed assassination was being investigated as a potential act of domestic terrorism.

Surely there’d be a second golf cart behind him, just to ferry his gigantic nuts around.

Anyone really think Biden would be on a golf course 24 hours after narrowly avoiding having his head blown off? Obama?

Me neither.

shatterzzz
July 15, 2024 7:52 am

Fascinating breakdown of retirement costs .. as an OAP on $29 000 (or there-abouts) I baffled how I get by .. Tho I have to admit some of the itemization seems a bit over the top .. cos even with 2 dependent moggies I ain’t spending on all this list …….
 Housing: $130 a week
Energy : around $25
Food : I’d spend, maybe, $80 tops but, generally, around $60 (inc mogs)
Clothing .. nuttin’ a week maybe $50 a year …… LOL!
Not sure what household goods & services actually meanz tho internet $75 month
Health .. guess I’m lucky .. zilch, zero .. no prescriptions and Medicare covers the rest ..
Transport .. don’t drive .. so public ($2.50 a day maybe twice a week), walk or bike $0 ….. LOL!
Leisure : a streamer $10 a week (plus several other passwords from kids $0)
Communications .. phone $15 month ..
 
So on a pension of $550 a week, at least, around $200 ends up “under the mattress” .. LOL!

Retire
lotocoti
lotocoti
July 15, 2024 7:52 am

Getting a bit tired of the was a registered Republican thing.
The local J’ismists seem to think filling in a free online form is virtually a blood oath of fealty.

shatterzzz
July 15, 2024 8:03 am

Great security ..! NOT ..! someone pixed the shooter before the shots ..FMD!

Shooter
m0nty
July 15, 2024 8:05 am

I will note that there is still no evidence disproving the theory that Crooks was Trump’s spurned gay lover.

Beertruk
July 15, 2024 8:08 am

Keep on demonising a person, dehumanising them. It’s malevolent, makes them expendable, fair game for weaker minds.

Hope there is a pile on against this stupid bint and she is held to account.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:10 am

Getting a bit tired of the was a registered Republican thing.

My hypothesis is he was one of the many lefty activists who registered Republican so he could tactically vote in the recent primaries.

A large proportion of Haley’s vote came from them. A guy who hated Trump this much would very plausibly do this.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 15, 2024 8:12 am

Uh oh. No context or timeline yet but optics not good and will feed as Doc F put the conspiracy theories:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13632985/Donald-Trump-shot-rally-assassinate-gunman-crooks-biden.html

One of those updating pages headline to look for is “Local police officer came face-to-face with would-be assassin but backed away, sources say”

m0nty
July 15, 2024 8:20 am

Wisconsin’s governor has asked that the open carry rule at the upcoming GOP convention in Milwaukee be suspended.

Tough choice for Trump. Does he risk another Crooks whose shot is less crooked? Or does he admit that maybe lax gun laws are the problem?

Tom
Tom
July 15, 2024 8:22 am

Getting a bit tired of the was a registered Republican thing.

In it overnight online edition of the story, The Australian disgraced itself with the headline claiming that Trump had been shot by a “young Republican”.

That’s the definition of media disinformation.

Thankfully the adults have arrived and the story is now headed:

FBI says shooting ‘potential domestic terrorism’, explosive found in shooter’s car, Trump heads to RNC

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 15, 2024 8:23 am

I don’t have Telegram, so I can’t confirm Military Summary’s interpretation of mØnty’s Waffen SS adjacent Bros’ statement.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 8:31 am

Crooks being a young Republican and being a domestic terrorist are not mutually exclusive.

To be charitable, I honestly think he is just an incel loser and this is not actually a partisan thing, just another mentally disturbed kid who fell through the cracks of society.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:31 am

@JoeyMannarinoUS

Corey Comperatore was one of us.

Read his Twitter – @Corey_Comper

.

He regularly interacted with @catturd2

, @gunthereagleman

and even my account.

He was truly one of us. And he was executed simply for loving Donald J. Trump.

This is not the America I want to leave behind for my children. We must do something about the extreme Democrat violence that is ravaging everything we’ve ever known!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:32 am

m0nty
 July 15, 2024 6:14 am

Decent roundup of what is known about the shooter.

Turns out he is actually a lone wolf.

You lie.
The local police chief had explicitly repeated several times they are not assuming that is the case.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:34 am

Especially with at least one person yelling at them for two minutes about the armed man climbing the nearest roof.

@RickyDoggin

How does a kid outsmart the entire Secret Service?

He Doesn’t…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 8:34 am

I don’t think the shooter is a part of a plan but rather another boy not gifted the natural attributes for social acceptance.
They fester quietly until the appalling act to be noticed is played out. The motivation to shoot at Trump may be little more than a convenient opportunity that presented itself.
We all want clear facts and logical answers but often we’re finally led down the same sad pathetic path that results in school shootings, murdered parents or work colleagues.
Maybe I’m wrong but it’s pointing that way from the little we have in information about the dead shooter.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 8:38 am

The munted one is writing a book titled “Things I know “. P1, ummmmmm, 2 days later, ummmmm, 1 week later, ummmmmm, years into the future, ummmmmm. You have to be the biggest dumbarse around.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:39 am
Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:41 am

@GrrrGraphics

“Divine Intervention”

Ben Garrison cartoon.

Trump was incredibly lucky. Had he not turned his head toward the right in that precise moment, he would have been a dead man. An angel must have been watching over him. So that’s what I have drawn here.

Now we need to figure out why the Secret Service missed such an obvious setup for an assassin. Something is very fishy, and it smells like the Deep State Swamp.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 15, 2024 8:42 am

another boy not gifted the natural attributes for social acceptance.
Mr Fitzwilliam Darcy was not gifted easy graces, but still got a hold of himself and got the girl in the end.
I’d contend that Western Life, 2024 edition, is flat chat telling averagely awkward kids that they are normal/kooky/queer/anxious, and that their forever place is at conventions, online chat rooms, and in an orange jar of pills.
Sorry if I seem abrasive, but I put this in the camp of Queering The Kids, which I hate.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:44 am
132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 8:45 am

m0nty
July 15, 2024 8:05 am

I will note that there is still no evidence disproving the theory that Crooks was Trump’s spurned gay lover.

There’s way more evidence that you’re a pedophile.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 8:49 am
JC
JC
July 15, 2024 8:52 am

Dow futures trading higher, likely on the back that Trump will be in the Oval Office.

LOL

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 9:01 am

Mike Carlton under fire over three-word response to Australia’s message of support to Donald Trump: ‘This is a low blow’
Daily Mail.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 9:03 am
JC
JC
July 15, 2024 9:03 am

There’s no conspiracy that the swamp was directly involved . That’s because the swamp didn’t need to.

All the Demonrats had to do was to continually repeat that Trump = Hitler , peddle hoaxes over hoaxes and eventually one or more of their own would take the shot. Mental illness runs rampant in the demonrat sphere, so they know what they were doing and that some sicko would come forward.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 15, 2024 9:07 am

To be charitable, I honestly think he is just an incel loser and this is not actually a partisan thing, just another mentally disturbed kid who fell through the cracks of society.

No.
This is your team, your lot.
You are just annoyed at the fact Trump is alive.
Now phuck off.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 15, 2024 9:07 am

“Let the FBI do their job.”

In one of those cosmic coincidences, I’m currently re-reading American Tabloid.*
Ward Littell has just asked Howard Hughes for $250k.
*If you haven’t, you should.

Last edited 5 months ago by lotocoti
m0nty
July 15, 2024 9:09 am

I am glad Trump was not shot dead live on national TV.

One other live theory is that Crooks was an accelerationist who wanted to start a war because he believed gun-loving groypers like him would win. If he had succeeded, what followed would have been terrible.

Last edited 5 months ago by m0nty
Black Ball
Black Ball
July 15, 2024 9:16 am

Andrew Bolt:

No one can hide from this truth.

Whoever shot Donald Trump – whether some crazy or Left-wing extremist – this assassination attempt was part of a plot.

No, not a deliberate, worked-out plot to kill the man most likely to become president again.

I mean the plot to make Trump seem so evil that OF COURSE someone would want to kill him. OF COURSE someone would figure they just had to stop the new Hitler.

And the blame for that goes all the way to the top – to desperate President Joe Biden who has terrified Americans of the Left by painting Trump as a wannabe dictator, who just had to be stopped by almost any means.

Take Biden’s TV ad last month demonising Trump: “There is nothing more sacred than our democracy, but Donald Trump, ready to burn it all down”.

Or this Biden ad, just two days before the shooting, accusing Trump of being the poodle of Russia’s war-criminal president: “This is who Donald Trump is … the United States must never be like Putin’s Russia; we don’t empower dictators”.

Biden’s team also got actor Robert De Niro, who’d declared ‘I’d like to punch Donald Trump in the face’, to narrate another ad savaging Trump: “Now he’s running again, this time threatening to be a dictator, to terminate the constitution”.

It kept coming. Two weeks ago, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared on national television that “this is not a normal election”, and Trump “must be stopped; he cannot become president”.

And talking to donors this past fortnight, Biden repeated urged them: “It’s time to put Trump in a bullseye”.

Sure, Biden didn’t mean that literally. But the media forgave that inflammatory language in a way it never would have had Trump used it against Biden.

Democrats seemed to believe their own hysteria.

What else, short of violence, didn’t they do to make Trump seem an evil that had to be stopped by hook or by crook?

For three years, the Democrats pushed the bogus claim that Trump stole the 2016 election by colluding with Russia.

Then Democrats also falsely accused Trump of sending a mob to invade Congress to stop Biden replacing him as president.

Biden even falsely accused Trump of having “sat and watched … the cops being killed”, when the only person killed was a female Trump supporter, shot by police.

This Trump Derangement Syndrome isn’t just a slogan. It is a sick reality in a United States that looks at times almost on the edge of a civil war. God knows what would have happened had that bullet which clipped Trump’s ear been two inches to the right.

The Democrats even felt licenced to bend and strain the law to launch four separate legal cases to get Trump jailed or at least crippled ahead of the November election.

And the media Left did their bit.

The New Republic last month ran a cover picture of Trump with a Hitler moustache, over the headline: “American fascism: what it would look like”.

The Left-wing American Prospect Magazine ran with this headline: “American Fascism”, warning against “American fascism in 2024”.

The New Yorker went with: “Why we can’t stop arguing about whether Trump is a fascist.”

And all the way through, media outlets falsely accused Trump of praising neo-Nazis as “good people”, of planning to be a dictator on “day one” and more.

So can anyone be surprised if someone may have decided to remove a man they’ve been told is a monstrous evil? A Hitler?

But few in politics have been luckier in their choice of enemies than Trump.

His enemies have now made him so much stronger.

The Democrats’ attempts co-opt the FBI into making Trump seem in collusion with Putin just made the Deep State look corrupt.

The Democrats’ attempts to stop Trump’s campaign in the courts just made the justice system seem corrupt, and Trump’s support grew stronger.

And now this attempted assassination will make Trump unbeatable in the election.

That’s not just because Trump acted like a man with balls of steel, shrugging off his security when the shooting ended to wave a fist and shout: “Fight, fight”.

The contrast with feeble Joe Biden could not be stronger.

But more: This attack will stop Biden playing his lunatic “dictator Trump” card, and will wake up more Americans to the real threat to their peace and freedom.

No, it’s not the Right. It really is the Left, which must reflect how it’s become the very threat it saw in Trump.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 15, 2024 9:17 am

You own this monty, lock stock and barrel.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 9:21 am

There’s no conspiracy that the swamp was directly involved . That’s because the swamp didn’t need to.

That an elevated shooting position less than 200 yards from Trump, who was standing on a stage in an open field, was left unguarded, in contradiction of Secret Service doctrine since the Kennedy assassination, does raise some questions though.

Was it simply incompetence?

Or was there a shortage of SS & police manpower at the rally stemming from a WH knockback of Trump’s request for extra security, as has been claimed?

Looking forward to the SS answers before the Congressional inquiry.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 9:21 am

m0nty
 July 15, 2024 6:14 am

Decent roundup of what is known about the shooter.

Turns out he is actually a lone wolf.

Not one word of the lengthy USA Today article says anything of the sort.
In fact, it quotes authorities as saying it is “an ongoing investigation and ask anyone with information to contact ….. “.
Even if he didn’t have a physical accomplice, the “lone wolf” argument is moot, because he was egged on by the far-left media and the likes of Kathy Griffin for years.
They are guilty of incitement to violence far beyond anything which happened during the January 6th mostly peaceful protest.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 9:21 am

I’m starting to think that mUnturd might have a point about gun control in the US.

Ban all DemonRats from owning guns.

Last edited 5 months ago by Boambee John
cohenite
July 15, 2024 9:23 am

The shooter personifies demorat support: young, radicalised, stupified. The demorats own him; his membership of the GOP was obviously a red herring.

Images showing how lucky Trump was;

#Trump2024 | Truth Social

Details of the hero who was killed in the audience:

Report: Corey Comperatore Identified as Victim Killed at Trump Rally (breitbart.com)

And the demorats true to form; they are complete scum:

Top Adviser to Democrat Megadonor Reid Hoffman Suggests Attempt on Trump’s Life May Have Been ‘Staged’ (breitbart.com)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 9:24 am

Yep.

Benjamin Netanyahu: ‘In US, the writing was on the wall. Here the writing is on the wall’ (14 Jul)

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: “We are witnessing a flood of explicit threats of murder and violence against the Prime Minister and members of his family, and against ministers and public officials.”

Following Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s remarks, at the start of the Government meeting today (Sunday, 14 July 2024), regarding the attempted assassination of former US President and presidential candidate Donald Trump, Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs showed ministers a video of a collection of calls to incitement against the Prime Minister, to which the ministers asked to comment. …

“We are witnessing a flood of explicit threats of murder and violence against the Prime Minister and members of his family, and against ministers and public officials. These are not just flagrant criminal offenses, they constitute a direct and explicit threat to democracy. But basically, apart from a few small exceptions, nothing tangible has been done. I turn to the Attorney General and the State Attorney – this is your job.

And like Garland the Israeli AG is a leftist who has spent years and years trying to get Netanyahu with ludicrous lawfare. Plus of course violent demonstrations by leftists outside his family home.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 15, 2024 9:24 am

Papers reporting :
The CFMEU has placed its key Victorian branch into administration following allegations of corruption, with the national executive to take over.

I missed 60 Minutes but spparently more revelations to come this week.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 9:27 am

The CFMEU has placed its key Victorian branch into administration following allegations of corruption, with the national executive to take over.

The same national executive that allowed the corruption in VIC to fester.

Over to you, Tony Burke.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 9:29 am

Even if he didn’t have a physical accomplice, the “lone wolf” argument is moot, because he was egged on by the far-left media and the likes of Kathy Griffin for years.

A 20-year-old male Kathy Griffin stan? Yeah nah, doubt it.

The only egging on that we know he got was from the community of a gun-fondling YouTube channel whose host has been pictured smiling with Donald Trump Jnr. Now, apparently that host is not a bad dude, but he is certainly no Kathy Griffin.

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
July 15, 2024 9:41 am

Make of this what you will

P.S.

My scroll wheel is getting an extra workout this morning

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Morsie
Morsie
July 15, 2024 9:43 am

The Oz still r running with the registered Re publican shtick

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 9:45 am

Reposted, from the old thread. Anybody got any good jokes about knickers?

‘Beyond excited’: Brittany Higgins, David Sharaz expecting their first childJames Dowling
9 hours ago
Former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins is expecting her first child with husband David Sharaz.
Announcing the pregnancy on Instagram, Ms Higgins said she was “beyond excited” and paired the announcement with a picture of knitted childrens’ overalls and two blue socks on a washing line.
“Can’t wait to meet you,” Ms Higgins said on Instagram on Sunday.
“Beyond excited to welcome a new member to our little family.
“Your parents are already obsessed with you and you aren’t even here yet.”
The image is tagged with a location: Bergerac, France. In December, Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz bought a home in the southwestern town of Lunas near the Bergerac and Bordeaux regions.
While Ms Higgins, who made the announcement late on Sunday, did not specify the baby’s gender, the blue socks in her post hint at a baby boy.
The announcement follows the pair’s Gold Coast wedding in June, held behind a strict wall of security in the Currumbin Valley. The event had a strict guest list confined to friends and family.
Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz met in Canberra in 2020 before announcing their engagement on New Year’s Eve in 2022.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 15, 2024 9:47 am

Top Adviser to Democrat Megadonor Reid Hoffman Suggests Attempt on Trump’s Life May Have Been ‘Staged’

So…Trump organised a staged attempt at an assassination which involved firing live rounds at him – so well timed that Trump’s turning his head at the precise moment meant the bullet grazed his ear rather than entering his skull behind it.

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local oaf
July 15, 2024 9:49 am

The overwhelming majority of gun killings in the US are committed by black people.
The only way to effectively reduce the gun toll in the US would be to strip blacks of their guns – why are gun control zealots so racist????

Zatara
Zatara
July 15, 2024 9:50 am

Some interesting bits of information from various internet sources (take them with a grain of salt until confirmed):

Crooks’ father is a psychologist. His mother is an occasional elementary school teacher.

Crooks was living with his grandparents before he was kicked out for using drugs.

Minneapolis Riots (2021): Crooks was purportedly part of Antifa actions during the Minneapolis riots. He was twice arrested and released on bail with the help of his parents.

According to news reports Crooks had a mental meltdown on a college campus. The video allegedly depicts Crooks verbally abusing Trump supporters at a campaign table on a campus. Crooks further allegedly appears to be screaming vile remarks at the workers at the campaign table such as “slash his throat, every f*%kin Republican, slash Republicans throats.”

It is suspected that Crooks may in fact have been on psychiatric drugs, which would make him the latest in a long line of mental health failures that become mass killers.

Again, none of that is confirmed at the moment but none of it seems out of the question either.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 9:53 am

Don Jnr is a keen and skilled shooter.
In Monty’s world that’s a direct link to the shooter. That falls in the same category as Lewis Hamilton being blamed for road deaths because some fool thought he could drive really fast and ends up killing people.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 15, 2024 9:59 am

Bolt gets it:

This attack will stop Biden playing his lunatic “dictator Trump” card, and will wake up more Americans to the real threat to their peace and freedom.

Biden and the senior Democrats have explicitly played the ‘Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?’ card – and reaped the storm.

After years of demonising – lurid squirrel-running, aided and abetted by corrupt agencies and public officials, lapped up and repeated by the MSM and the good and great – this was the culmination of the Great Game Plan.

The risks now of further hyperbolic personal attacks on Trump leading to a successful follow up assassination are huge and probably incalculable.

The hypocritical prayers and pleadings for a nicer democracy that fell out of Democratic mouths and the cancellation of Democratic campaign ads “out of respect for the injured” suggest that this was instantly apparent.

Whether or not yesterday’s shooting was a cunning, carefully crafted Deep State plan, the bullets have (metaphorically) hit the unintended target.

Tom
Tom
July 15, 2024 9:59 am

If, like me, you haven’t been paying sufficient attention to the detail, it turns out the head of the Secret Service — like most of the Biden White House’s appointments — is a diversity hire (Paywallian):

Donald Trump arrives in Milwaukee for the RNC as the Secret Service chief defends her team’s response to the assassination attempt and US President Joe Biden prepares to address the nation from the Oval Office.

Her name is Kimberly Cheatle. I trust she will be required to testify publicly before a congressional committee in coming weeks about why the SS didn’t go the simplest of security sweeps at Saturday’s Trump rally.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 9:59 am

And make of this what you will…

A Christian chap who claims to receive prophecies foresaw a “rising up” Trump being shot in the right ear and falling to his knees, whereupon he is “radically reborn” for Jesus and goes on to win the presidency due to patriots turning out to vote in great numbers.

He had this vision more than three months ago…and it was taped for You Tube at the time.

Crossie
Crossie
July 15, 2024 10:01 am

There is a lot of talk about the assassin being so young, gormless, supposedly inept. This is now a pattern, Shinzo Abe’s assassin was also some young no hoper. What about the guy who tried to kill the Slovakian president?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 10:02 am

The Laborites already trying to weaponise the assassination attempt as an excuse to silence criticism and demonise anyone angry with their big state agenda.
Watch this space.

cohenite
July 15, 2024 10:06 am

2SM talkback with the very good Dave Cochran just had a regular caller called stan, a self confessed avowed leftie, stating it was a shame the assassination failed because Trump is a bad person.

It doesn’t matter where they are, lefties are sick fuks. Just look at our pet cockroach, dickless.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
July 15, 2024 10:16 am

Can’t wait for The Donald to express newfound sympathy for Hillary Clinton, landing under siper fire in Sarajevo like she most definitely did

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 10:20 am

johanna
 July 15, 2024 7:50 am

calli

July 15, 2024 7:15 am

Reply to  Rosie

Good. Well done that Congressman.

Nope.

That Congressman wanted to withdraw Trump’s SS protection detail entirely a few months ago. He’s a creep as well as a hypocrite

Quite so.
The staffer was just silly enough to publicly repeat office in-jokes at an inappropriate time.
The firing is a sham.
She will quietly appear in a similar job for another rep in a couple of weeks time.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 15, 2024 10:41 am

Too good to leave on the OT:

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

 July 15, 2024 7:56 am

Greens tell Muslim Vote to ‘leave Wills, Senate alone’Alexi Demetriadi

11 hours ago

215 comments

Panicked Greens senators and MPs fear the burgeoning The Muslim Vote movement could cost them the prized target seat of Wills and upper house votes, pleading with the campaign to leave it and the Senate race alone.

A potential split in the pro-­Palestine vote came as Muslim leaders said the Greens’ policy slate would be a “deal-breaker” for the community, regardless of its pro-Palestine stance.

It appears that Mo hates the Bandt and all his works.

Little fists of rage in the Greens playpen.
Delicious.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 10:47 am

It appears that Mo hates the Bandt and all his works.

As the man said (slightly adjusted):

“Socialism is like a train ride. When you reach your destination you get off.”

Thanks Mehreen; we’ll take it from here.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 15, 2024 10:53 am

The female head of Secret Service was formally on Biden’s detail when he was VP. She is long time SS prior to a stint as head of security for Pepsi from where she was appointed by Biden.

Surely some resignations or firings should already be happening regarding failure to cover the roof top and then not getting him in the minutes he was there.

The two SS snipers in black who did get him would have seen him for minutes before he took the shots. I saw a commentator saying that they may have thought he was local police and poor planning and co-ordination involved. You would think as soon as they saw him they would be questioning his presence on their radio and somebody sent to have a look.

Either way not a good day for the Secret Service.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 10:55 am

More details about Crooks, including that he was definitely a conservative.

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damon
damon
July 15, 2024 11:01 am

“he was of thin build and was wearing a grey shirt and taupe pants at the time of his death”

This is American News?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 15, 2024 11:02 am

The two SS snipers in black who did get him

They weren’t Secrete Service. Local police sniper and spotter did the job after the assassin let loose three shots at Trump. They had eyes on but didn’t take him out in time.

Members of the public had spotted him minutes before the shots and alerted police.

A massive security breach. Deliberate or not?

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 11:03 am

She is long time SS prior to a stint as head of security for Pepsi from where she was appointed by Biden.

You mean Jill, right?

But seriously…it’s 12 months now since Susan Rice – Obama’s chief agent of influence in the Biden administration – left the White House, probably over a disagreement about Biden running again. I think Jill Biden has really come into ascendancy since then.

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2dogs
July 15, 2024 11:03 am

If Crooks was a conservative, the content of his social media posts would already be in the news.

2dogs
July 15, 2024 11:07 am

As to Crooks’ motivation, read the following two things together:

Jason Kohler attended Bethel Park High School with Crooks and said he remembers the 20-year-old sat alone at lunch and was “bullied every day.”

and

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Education_and_Employment/DASC/Terms_of_Reference

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 15, 2024 11:13 am

Anybody with me in hoping that the family of the man murdered at the Trump rally sues, for hundreds of millions of dollars, everybody who is calling the shooting, “fake” or “staged”?

Surely suing people into penury isn’t a one-off against Alex Jones?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 11:15 am

Re the Russian woman in sigs:
This is not the first time this has happened. I give you the gaol escapee who forged documents and passed herself off as a Registered Nurse, joined the army as a Direct Entry Officer – rank of Lieutenant – and when it became apparent she knew jack shit of nursing, the security people told the OIC of her unit everything was fine, even down to the forged letter of commendation from the ?Superintendent of the gaol she escaped from.
“No, it’s fine. It’s all tickety boo. We’ve checked.”
“Well check again – she’s not a Registered Nurse. She knows nothing of the profession!”
Several months later – “Yes. She escaped from prison, got her hands on documents – we’ll put her in Supply until we can work out what to do with her.”
This was told to me by a N.O. Major who was responsible for her and blew the whistle on her in the late 80’s and I have no reason to believe she made it up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 11:15 am

A massive security breach. Deliberate or not?

That question is being asked.

“Malice Or Massive Incompetence”: Erik Prince Gives Detailed Assessment Of Secret Service Failure (15 Jul)

Former Navy Seal and Blackwater founder Erik Prince gave a detailed assessment of yesterday’s Secret Service debacle in the wake of a failed assassination attempt on former President Trump. …

When looking at the circumstances in favor of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the identified alleged suspect in the attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Butler, PA, it’s hard to see how the guy failed. Almost every Secret Service security protocol seems to have been ignored, allowing Crooks easy access to a perfect shooting position and plenty of time to acquire a bead on Trump’s podium.

The rooftop used by Crooks was a mere 140 yards away from the event with a clear line of sight to the right of Trump. Those familiar with precision shooting know that any shot within 300 yards is considered easy for a moderately trained rifleman. With the right caliber an expert can hit a torso sized target consistently at 1000 yards or more. At 140 yards any amateur should be able to hit a pie plate-sized target with little difficulty, even without a magnified optic. 

The Secret Service is supposed to secure all obvious “sniper perches” well before the arrival of a protectee – Meaning, nearby rooftops and buildings are supposed to have a security presence in place along with drone surveillance. In the case of Butler, PA, this was apparently not done. SS snipers were only present on the building right behind the venue stage.

As Ben Garrison said…fishy.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 11:15 am

Further to my comment this morning about the double standards (or no standards) applied to the left over their incessant advocacy of violence towards their political opponents, I posted earlier about UK ‘comedian’ Jo Brand and her comment about Nigel Farage, where Brand had wished, on radio, that instead of milkshake being thrown at Farage it had been battery acid. For her advocacy of violence, Brand received no blowback or censure. And now I see that one our own resident left-wing slugs, Mike Carlton, has posted on X some nasty remarks about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump…..so, let’s hark back to 2019 when the flasher from the northern beaches posted a tweet during an episode of Q&A, and in this tweet he asked why a fellow Q+A panellist doesn’t “leap from his seat and strangle” female Liberal MP Nicolle Flint.

Be it Carlton, our own Nazi and all the rest of them, it’s time to make them swallow their own slop.

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Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 15, 2024 11:18 am

Isn’t the sheila in charge of the Secret Service the one who embedded You Tube influencers in a recruit intake, to train with the recruit cohort? & had them put the training on Youtube, with focus on how the girrrrrls were leading the course, blah blah blah?

cohenite
July 15, 2024 11:25 am

Donald Trump took a bullet for this country.

If you’re voting for anyone else, you can go fu.k yourself. That’s where I’m at.

(20) Blaire White – Search / X

Her name is Blaire White and like all conservative women she is gorgeous.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 11:25 am

Nothing new in this for Cat readers, but that it appeared in The Courier-Mail is noteworthy. O’Connor must feel he has his finger on public sentiment to publish this:

Appalling, gutless response as racial hate allowed to run rampant

Mike O’Connor The Courier Mail 9 July, 2024

There’s a sense of unease in our cities and suburbs fuelled by a feeling of helplessness as people begin to realise that the fabric of the country that they love is being picked apart thread by thread. The shambles that unfolded in Canberra surrounding the defection of Senator Fatima Payman from the Labor Party was a straw in the wind, a further sign that the nation is fragmenting into groups whose agenda is self-interest with no thought for the good of all.

You might well wonder how a person for whom 1621 people voted in Western Australia is now attempting to direct the foreign policy of those 26 million of us who didn’t vote for her, and how she managed to be endorsed by the Labor Party in the first place, unless of course the fact she was a woman of colour and a Muslim played into it.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is now reaping the harvest that he has sown with his vacillation, lack of leadership and half-hearted support of Israel over the Gaza issue and the anti-Semitism that has been allowed to flourish on our streets and in our universities and most recently on the roof of our national parliament.

Having an each-way bet might be fine for a punt on the Melbourne Cup, but as Albanese is finding to his cost, it doesn’t cut it when you are dealing with racial hate, vitriol and calls for the extermination of the Jewish people.

The appalling, gutless approach of university vice-chancellors in failing to deal with the invasion of their campuses, and then capitulating to pro-Palestinian activists demanding a say in the way the universities are run, is a disgrace.

These protesters are now claiming a victory. Now that they’ve discovered how easy it is to intimidate university authorities they’ll be back for more, making more and more outrageous demands and chanting “from the river to the sea” as they do so. Jewish students no longer feel safe on campus. How can this happen in our country?

I have no answer other than to suggest weakness, a lack of moral fibre and a desperate desire on the part of the vice-chancellors to hang on to their obscenely bloated salaries.

The Vote Muslim Movement says it will now run candidates in seats for federal parliament with large Muslim populations, pushing a Muslim agenda. Clerics recently claimed it was sinful for Muslim students to pay indexation on their student loans, as do other Australian students, and wants them granted a dispensation. One rule for them, another for the rest.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton raised the spectre of the Albanese government being voted into a minority and having to do deals with the Greens, teals and Vote Muslim members in order to govern.

He voiced a reasonable concern, but predictably was branded a bigot.

This political fragmentation follows upon the avoidable disaster that was the Voice referendum, which revealed that there were those people who did not regard themselves as Australians but as a group deserving of special treatment, with those who opposed this view vilified as racists.

It was a case of us and them, with the dictum being that if you’re not with us you’re against us.

Every other day, people awake to the news that an Indigenous group has been granted native title over another slice of the country, increasingly over prime real estate such as on the Sunshine Coast, Redland and Moreton Bay areas and on Fraser and Moreton islands.

The narrative is always the same – nothing to see here, no need for non-Indigenous Australians to worry about access and usage. But why bother to spend vast amounts of taxpayer dollars paying lawyers to argue these cases if it’s all going to be hunky dory and business as usual?

People are told not to worry, but if Premier Steven Miles was to park himself beside any suburban backyard barbecue he would quickly discover that people are very worried about what this will mean for the nature of the society in which their children and their children’s children will live.

I’m old enough to remember the days when even though people held opinions that differed from yours, it was understood that we were all in this together and agreed to disagree in the interests of the common good.

Those days are fast disappearing. I wonder if we will ever see their like again.

local oaf
July 15, 2024 11:28 am

I’d be the last person to engage in conspiracy theories, but this is all over the net in the last 30 minutes.

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m0nty
July 15, 2024 11:32 am

Market for Thomas Crooks’ motivation:

500/1 aliens, it was aliens
400/1 wanted to impress Chloë Grace Moretz
300/1 accelerationism (from left)
200/1 is Trump’s jilted gay lover
100/1 radicalised by Demolition Ranch
90/1 radicalised by Demolition Man
80/1 radicalised by Trader Joe’s Ranch Dressing
70/1 radicalised by backwards messages in Joe Biden’s slurred speech
60/1 radicalised by Alex Jones
50/1 Democrat pinko commie shirtlifting aliens, man
40/1 accelerationism (from right)
30/1 wanted to impress AOC
20/1 groyper turf war
10/1 butthurt about bullying at school
9/1 butthurt about rejection from local gun club for poor aim
8/1 butthurt about rejection from grandparents’ home for drug use
7/1 butthurt about rejection by local girls

cohenite
July 15, 2024 11:32 am

FMD; the new Capt America is black and the plot is about an assassination attempt on a Trump like POTUS:

Captain America: Brave New World (2025) – IMDb

Chris
Chris
July 15, 2024 11:36 am

m0nty

 July 15, 2024 8:31 am

Crooks being a young Republican and being a domestic terrorist are not mutually exclusive.

To be charitable, I honestly think he is just an incel loser and this is not actually a partisan thing, just another mentally disturbed kid who fell through the cracks of society.

Why are many people registered as Republicans?
So they can vote in Republican Primaries. It’s a thing. You get to help in the more beatable candidate, for your ultimate vote.

For the record, you have diagnosed the sort of people who vote Democrat, for social acceptance. But the bigger thing is that assassination attempts like mass shootings, are taught and rewarded by the media storm.

However much you hate the media, it isn’t enough.

cohenite
July 15, 2024 11:36 am

She’s a good writer and being conservative, a looker. She reckons the demorats will accelerate the vitriol following the assassination attempt and anything conciliatory will be fleeting:

Bastards – Declassified with Julie Kelly

Did anyone notice how the old pervert’s best wishes to Trump was swamped by his retelling of attempts on demorats and how Trump had stirred things up.

cohenite
July 15, 2024 11:39 am

Selection of prominent demorats calling for the killing of Trump:

Facebook

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 11:41 am

Hey Jim, when are you going to get the AFP to arrest all those marching Nazis?

‘Votes not violence’: Treasurer calls for less ‘extremism’ in politics after Trump attack (Sky News, 15 Jul)

He could represent Australia in the Hypocrisy Olympics.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 11:55 am

Why are many people registered as Republicans?

So they can vote in Republican Primaries. It’s a thing. You get to help in the more beatable candidate, for your ultimate vote.

There is no evidence that this is what Crooks did. You are wishcasting.

Today’s testimony from his high school classmates that he is an obstinate conservative should put this theory to rest.

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 11:57 am

m0nty
 July 15, 2024 9:11 am

 Reply to  132andBush

I am not the one who appears 69 times in the Epstein files.

Is that an attempt at a zinger while deflecting?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 11:59 am

Tom at 9:59

Her name is Kimberly Cheatle. I trust she will be required to testify publicly before a congressional committee in coming weeks about why the SS didn’t go the simplest of security sweeps at Saturday’s Trump rally.

Yes, even a layperson with basic common-sense would make a better fist of it than they did.
Identify possible sources of threats – handguns, rifles, bombs, knives, chemical attack – and frame strategies to mitigate each one.
Honestly, given the history of POTUS pot-shots, the lone building just outside the perimeter sticks out like dogs balls.
I saw some absolute moron (expert) on Skah earnestly telling us that “sniper vs sniper” was the best tactic for this situation.
FMD.
Shooting back is the go-to tactic?
We saw how that worked on Saturday.
Sure, they killed the shooter, but only after he came within a split-second or 20mm of killing Trump.
Incidentally, the Secret Service used to deliberate select very tall men for the close bodyguard protection of the President. The theory was that they could surround a, say, 6’1″ President with 6’4″ protection so that, even if they have to walk him to a car to evacuate, it is very difficult for anyone to get a subsequent clear shot at him.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 12:05 pm

I saw some absolute moron (expert) on Skah earnestly telling us that “sniper vs sniper” was the best tactic for this situation.

Lordy.

Even the ABC’s resident “American expert” John Barron, interviewed on the wireless this morning, was aghast at the Secret Service failure.

Anders
Anders
July 15, 2024 12:08 pm

Today’s testimony from his high school classmates that he is an obstinate conservative should put this theory to rest.

I have known many people who were conservative in high school who became radical lefties post high school.

In any event, there are plenty of ‘conservatives’ who suffer from Trump derangement thanks to the relentless bullshit from the media.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 12:15 pm

Yesterday the Great Synagogue here in Sydney’s CBD was targeted by Muslim and leftist Nazis.

I have received this email today from the Great Synagogue.

We are writing in relation to the events of Sunday, 14 July 2024. At approximately 2:18pm protestors walked past The Great Synagogue holding anti-Israel signage and proceeded to vandalise the front of our Synagogue with stickers. These stickers have now been removed.

We are shocked and disappointed at the targeting of The Great Synagogue by these protestors. As we all know, The Great Synagogue is not just a place of worship for our community, it is a place of beauty, and has been the cornerstone of many Jewish holidays, events and celebrations for nearly 150 years.

To see a place that is so pivotal for Sydney Jewish life and is a spiritual home for so many of us for generations, being deliberately targeted by protestors and damaged through acts of vandalism is not only upsetting, it is totally unacceptable.

A place of worship for any faith is not a place where it is appropriate to promote a political agenda or be targeted for protests. We firmly believe that no matter the political climate, our community deserves to feel safe within our place of worship.

The Board together with The NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, has raised this issue with the Premier and Minister for Police and has requested this be addressed immediately. 

We take this incredibly seriously and I want to assure you that measures are in place to ensure the safety of our Synagogue and congregation.

Along with the support of CSG and NSW Police be assured and confident that we will not be intimidated. We will continue all our services and activities just as we have done since 1878. We will carry on strong and proud.

Please do not hesitate to contact me, any member of the Board or Rabbi Elton if you would like to discuss any of the above.

Nazi behaviour and actions. I cannot describe to you how sick this makes me feel.

Oh and question to our own resident Nazi, does he condemn the above?

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 12:17 pm

Every time there’s a high profile shooting in the US Monty comes out with ‘he is a righty’.

Every time it turns out the perp was a lefty.

Every time.

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 12:17 pm

I have known many people who were conservative in high school who became radical lefties post high school.

Usually when they find out they can sponge off the government (taxpayers) far more easily than having a crack.

Zatara
Zatara
July 15, 2024 12:18 pm

Sniper vs. sniper might well have been a good tactic, if the counter sniper, or any of the cops, had pulled their triggers.

Target in sight or not, that gunshot alone would have alerted the detail to get Trump under cover as there was an immediate threat.

It may also have pinned the shooter down or convinced him to abandon his plan.

Why they didn’t do it is another hard question that needs to be asked in the debriefs.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 12:23 pm

So, the ever insightful Monty thinks that the shooter’s “classmates” would have the take on his real politics, when they also described him as a quiet loner who was bullied.
There’s just a smidgeon of a chance that the ready talkers from his class are covering their own arse because they made his school life a misery.
There are many teachers who have to sit through presentation nights with their jaws clenched and hear praise heaped upon the popular kids who they well know are complete selfish arseholes.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Rooftop where gunman shot at Trump was identified as a security vulnerability before rally: sources

Two sources told NBC News that the Secret Service flagged a building near the rally site as a security concern. Investigators will be scrutinizing how a gunman was allowed to scale it.

Sources and operational details.

Looks like the Establishment preference is to feed some SS persons into the wood chipper as a matter of urgency.

m0nty
July 15, 2024 12:32 pm

Every time it turns out the perp was a lefty.

Ah yes Bruce, like that time it was a leftie who shot Lincoln, and the other time when a leftie shot Reagan.

You big galoot.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 15, 2024 12:36 pm

This Kimberly Cheatle?

Cheatle stated the Secret Service, which had a 48% departure rate, needed to “attract diverse candidates and give opportunities to everybody in the workforce, particularly women.” She aims to have 30% women in the agency by 2030. (from her Wikipedia page)

She sees giving opportunities to everyone as one of her priorities – competing with the actual protecting of people. She will compromise the latter to serve the former.

I grow so tired of the dishonest bromides about diversity leading to better outcomes. If you were to collect a group of, say, the five brightest mathematicians somewhere you would get something like 2 Asians, 1 Indian, and 2 Whitey (hey, Whitey is still by far the largest demographic). Looks diverse enough, but it is not selection for diversity that is the key but selection for smarts and diversity is just a relic. It could easily be 2 Asians and 3 Whitey – less diverse. Even if you pick the best Asian, best Indian, best Whitey, best African, and best Aborigine, you will likely not have the best team because the second best of any group might be better than the best of another.

Then consider the best for cricket. Or Thugby. Or plastic arts.

There really seems an effort to nobble and tame the exceptional, and to make sure it does not interfere with political objectives.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 15, 2024 12:37 pm

Recent events have taken some focus away from Trump policy.

regarding “Project 2025” and potential Trump admin 2 policy, from Reuters:

The Trump campaign, in turn, has expressed increasing annoyance with the project, repeatedly emphasizing that the project’s proposals are separate from the campaign’s official policy platform.

In a statement to Reuters, a campaign official accused the Democrats of fearmongering and said only the official Republican platform and a series of proposals from the campaign known as Agenda 47 should be taken as official.

Wikipedia’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_47 has many references to other media analyses but is mostly links to the official site https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 15, 2024 12:41 pm

Why they didn’t do it is another hard question that needs to be asked in the debriefs.
I think it may have gone as planned apart from missing Trump’s brain

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 12:43 pm

I suppose if you make enough predictions one will eventually come close to the mark.
https://x.com/Protestia/status/1812516842902270105?t=oql1T0S_ejK8gIomhnvD3Q&s=19

m0nty
July 15, 2024 12:44 pm

I have known many people who were conservative in high school who became radical lefties post high school.

The more educated you get, the more you tend to realise that reactionary recidivism is nonsense.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 12:46 pm

Our Nazi approves of Nazis protesting outside synagogues and Jews being harassed.

Crossie
Crossie
July 15, 2024 12:47 pm

Bourne1879

 July 15, 2024 10:53 am

The female head of Secret Service was formally on Biden’s detail when he was VP. She is long time SS prior to a stint as head of security for Pepsi from where she was appointed by Biden.

Is she the one in front of whom Biden stripped and went for a skinny dip?

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
July 15, 2024 12:53 pm

There is no evidence that this is what Crooks did. You are wishcasting.
Today’s testimony from his high school classmates that he is an obstinate conservative should put this theory to rest.

There is no evidence that this clown has a brain, testimony from his classmates confirms that he is and always was an F/WIT

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 12:55 pm

The Board together with The NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, has raised this issue with the Premier and Minister for Police and has requested this be addressed immediately.

Peaceful protest is one thing, intimidation is quite another and it has no place on our city streets or in our suburbs.

How many times now has the Jewish Board of Deputies appealed to the NSW Premier and Police Minister for appropriate action against people who are exploiting the right to protest in order to intimidate Sydney’s Jewish community?

They shouldn’t have to. The authorities should have been vigilant in stamping this out when it first emerged at the Opera House.

That Jewish leaders have to plead for protection for their community is a disgrace to the nation.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 12:58 pm

While the ABC went full gender fluid and Wussia Wussia conspiracy, criminal gangs were having a merry time in the construction industry and using the mafia like tactics of the CFMEU to cover their tracks.
Sixty Minutes are at least attempting to be journalists looking for the dirt on the well connected. The Vic ALP and their paid security, VicPol, have a lot of questions to answer.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 1:05 pm

Before Mr vaxx says anything.
Shannen was diagnosed in 2015 and confirmed her condition was terminal in 2020.
May she rest in peace.
(I have a family member on a similar trajectory and hope she gets at least nine years post diagnosis too)
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/jul/14/shannen-doherty-dies-cancer-beverly-hills-90210-heathers

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 1:07 pm

Even the ABC’s resident “American expert” John Barron, interviewed on the wireless this morning, was aghast at the Secret Service failure.

The fact the shooter was able to get on that roof means there was a failure in one of the tiers of security surrounding the event. All access to those buildings should have been restricted/not allowed.
The snipers on the roof are actually there to scan for threats further out than where the shooter was ,hence, in the footage, we see the initial more elevated aspect of the rifle.
These blokes are the last line and if they start shooting it means something has gone drastically wrong back down the security tiers.
Apparently the calibre used by the snipers would’ve been 300Win Mag which accounts for the mess made of the shooter’s head.

That’s a condensation of a few more level headed takes I’ve seen on YouTube channels who are dedicated to this sort of stuff. (Task and Purpose being one) Big questions to be asked about the breakdown of security in that intermediate ring around Trump. I’ll speculate it’s a lack of resources and we know where the finger can be pointed in that regard.

Talking with my ex army son yesterday and he was amazed at how quickly the sniper did his job. When you look at the footage the bloke readjusted, identified, aimed and got off three rounds in under four seconds and shot the scum through the head. Something else to add to that that I’ve just thought of. The scopes on those sniper rifles are obviously high mag variables so if the sniper was scanning for threats out past 250m with the scope on 12x or more and suddenly has to readjust to 130m where 6x is more appropriate it makes it just that little bit harder to get an initial bead, or lose a precious split second dialling back the magnification.
Again, that’s just a thought given my experience over the years.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 1:09 pm

Poor kid. Those responsible should pay for their abuse.
https://x.com/HazelAppleyard_/status/1812589643101356040?t=h0YMSOJc42xx600HxVzc5w&s=19

Crossie
Crossie
July 15, 2024 1:12 pm

Incidentally, the Secret Service used to deliberate select very tall men for the close bodyguard protection of the President. The theory was that they could surround a, say, 6’1? President with 6’4? protection so that, even if they have to walk him to a car to evacuate, it is very difficult for anyone to get a subsequent clear shot at him.

Best practice is no longer best practice, DEI now trumps everything. On the other hand it could just be useful camouflage for real intent of enhanced insecurity for certain protectees. Has anyone checked out whether Biden’s protection details has short women or only tall men? If not, why not?

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 1:14 pm

Thanks for that distillation, 132.

I’ll speculate it’s a lack of resources and we know where the finger can be pointed in that regard.

That’s where I’m sitting atm.

Lysander
Lysander
July 15, 2024 1:17 pm

I don’t think it is really going to matter much what the US “government” or meeja say about Trump assassination attempt.

Americans are renowned for not trusting these sources, and their distrust has been steadily growing.

Whether it be JFK and Oswald, moon landings, Area 51, 9/11 attacks, bigfoot, covid origins, chemtrails…*

(*some of these have come true)

I’d argue most Americans will simply and easily see this as a political attack by Trump’s enemies (which it patently was), regardless of what spin the “authorities” put on it.

Lysander
Lysander
July 15, 2024 1:19 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 15, 2024 1:25 pm

I got bullied in high school. The thing is, I always hit back with gusto. I copped a few blows in return.

I remember walking through Booragoon shopping centre with my brother one day after an incident at school and we got surroundend by the pr*cks. Big bro said let’s go! The females in the group diffused the situation.

2 days later riding home from the local deli with bro, one of the w*ankers from school challenged him to a fight on the street.

Bang! Brother beat the sh*t of him. He had the face like the bum of a rhesus monkey after that. He had a week of school.

No more dramas for me at school after that.

True story.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 15, 2024 1:30 pm

There was talk yesterday that Trump’s SS detail was less than it ought to have been – I think someone said they had requested additional personnel but had been refused.

If that is the case then is it not so much that they failed to take up position on the roof the shooter fired from but instead they perhaps tried to make up for lack of numbers by merely observing the roof. If so it obviously did not work.

That is if they were understrength.

I would hesitate to decry Secret Service there. Even the little girl agent was giving her all. But the higher ups are a different matter – including those who decided it was more important to let small women take on a role they are simply physically not equipped for, and who would sack any other agent who pointed it out.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 1:31 pm

Zatara
 July 15, 2024 12:18 pm

Sniper vs. sniper might well have been a good tactic, if the counter sniper, or any of the cops, had pulled their triggers.

The preferred tactic is always to eliminate the opportunity.
Returning fire to an assassin’s position will have a high attrition rate for the people supposedly being protected.
People are confusing references to battlefield tactics with protocols for VIP protection.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 15, 2024 1:31 pm

Jacinta Allan running for cover over criminality in the building and construction unions.
The Big Build is more like the Big Steal.
It’s like Calabrian politics, socialists in government and the mafia running the show.
The ABC has now decided to report the story as you can smell the stench of a political cover up from Hobart.

Zippster
Zippster
July 15, 2024 1:31 pm

Agenda25

Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.

music to my ears…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 1:38 pm

I admit a little vicarious enjoyment watching Monty walking on serial rakes like this. His Reagan/Lincoln comment is pure hilarious joy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 1:40 pm

As to whether the assassination attempt portends accelerationism or decelerationism, one side argues that this provides the perfect opportunity for the regime to take the off-ramp, to dial things down, call for unity, etc

Very, very high risk to continue to run the “literally Hitler” rhetoric as a campaign theme.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 1:47 pm

Reposted for excellence:

he was amazed at how quickly the sniper did his job. When you look at the footage the bloke readjusted, identified, aimed and got off three rounds in under four seconds and shot the scum through the head. Something else to add to that that I’ve just thought of. The scopes on those sniper rifles are obviously high mag variables so if the sniper was scanning for threats out past 250m with the scope on 12x or more and suddenly has to readjust to 130m where 6x is more appropriate it makes it just that little bit harder to get an initial bead, or lose a precious split second dialling back the magnification

Yes.

Plus, the resourcing issues also identified by other commentators.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 1:51 pm

Farmer Gez
 July 15, 2024 12:58 pm

While the ABC went full gender fluid and Wussia Wussia conspiracy, criminal gangs were having a merry time in the construction industry and using the mafia like tactics of the CFMEU to cover their tracks.

Sixty Minutes are at least attempting to be journalists looking for the dirt on the well connected. The Vic ALP and their paid security, VicPol, have a lot of questions to answer.

Questions which Jacinta Andrews is not really answering today, but which anyone familiar with union behaviour in Victoria knows to be fact.
Of course, presented with an opportunity to put the boots in on “ALP using taxpayer funds to finance crime syndicates”, John Prosciutto is MIA.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 15, 2024 2:23 pm

First time seeing this song played live.

—-

10cc – I’M NOT IN LOVE – This performance was recorded ‘live in concert’ in Swansea, Wales in 2011.

10cc – I’M NOT IN LOVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6pRq0-mhY

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 2:26 pm

m0nster working the fat, sugar-crusted fingers to the bone on the keyboard, searching for anything which disproves the known and the obvious … that Crook was a seething far-left Antifa type who thought he would become a National hero by taking out Orange Hitler.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 2:30 pm

Mutley saves Africa from starvation by going on Krispy Kremes free diet.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 2:32 pm

“It’s going to be a whole different speech now,” Trump told the 

@dcexaminer

. “It is a chance to bring the country together. I was given that chance.”

Absolutely perfect read of the circumstances.
As I said yesterday, his opponents now look like small, insignificant nobodies.
If he pitches his RNC speech at national unity he will project himself as a great statesman, further emphasing the petty vindictiveness of the Biden RICO Syndicate.

cohenite
July 15, 2024 2:32 pm

Dickless just doing what dickless folks do: lie, obfuscate, prevaricate and look after the milko’s kiddies.

Just rebut his vomit and don’t it upset you.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 2:43 pm

I got bullied in high school. The thing is, I always hit back with gusto. I copped a few blows in return.

My mother is one tough woman, a lot of Australian women of her age group are. I am sure there was something in the water of this country back in the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s that spawned these strong and amazing women. Men have always loved my mother, straight men and gay men, because she’s strong and direct, there ain’t no bullshit with my mother. Anyway, Mum has a birth mark on one side of her face. From the time she left school she has always expertly covered the birth mark with make up. I don’t even notice it when I see her without the make up but of course, as a young girl back in the 1940 and 50s, she was taunted and teased a lot. .

A few days ago, Mum was talking about her childhood, reminiscing about how her father went to war, he served in New Guinea, and how she and her mother, together with her grandparents, moved to the Blue Mountains for the duration of the war. Perhaps they were fearful of a Japanese invasion, I don’t know. Anyway, Mum then carried on with her reminiscing and she described to me how, when she was only eight years old, in 1948, the child of a neighbour, who was about 14 years old and twice my mother’s height, one day in the street started shoving her and calling her ‘red face’. Furious, Mum said she remembers picking up a rock and hitting him with the rock. The shocked boy wimped back to his parents, and that night the boy’s father paid my grandfather a visit to complain about my mother hitting his son, to which my grandfather said to him that he needed to tell his son not to bully girls and not to make nasty remarks about my mother’s birth mark.

To this day my mother doesn’t take shit from anyone.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 15, 2024 2:49 pm

Part of interesting article from Daily Mail
“Dallas Alexander, who spent 14 years in a sniper team for the Canadian military doing close protection for major world leaders including the Canadian prime minister, suggested in a video that the 20-year-old who opened fire at the former president’s rally Saturday night may have had help from the inside”.

Might have to go and see what ex Secret Service agent Dan Bongino has had to say.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 15, 2024 2:55 pm

Cohenite by now hopefully knows Blair White was born a male.
However a good conservative thinker who was on a very good Tim Pool podcast that included Joe Rogan, Alex Jones and Michael Malice.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
July 15, 2024 2:57 pm

Meme of the year.

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John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 3:01 pm

dover0beach

 July 15, 2024 1:51 pm

Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.

In other words, we are assembling a new administrative state to get rid of the old administrative state. If that isn’t the plan they have learned nothing.

I didn’t take you for a Marilyn Manson fan … this is the new sh*t, same as the old shi*t.

Marilyn Manson – This Is The New Shit (Official Music Video) [Uncensored] (youtube.com)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 15, 2024 3:02 pm

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 2:43 pm

I should have said this months ago.

Please be careful if you fire back with verbals at the jew hating animals.

I’d like to think you’d have some burly blokes with you when you do.

All the best.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 3:05 pm

wivenhoe

 July 15, 2024 12:53 pm

There is no evidence that this is what Crooks did. You are wishcasting.

Today’s testimony from his high school classmates that he is an obstinate conservative should put this theory to rest.

There is no evidence that this clown has a brain, testimony from his classmates confirms that he is and always was an F/WIT

Some of his classmates described him as supersmart. He was rejected from the gun club for being a terrible shooter. The idea that the deep state would use such a loser is nuts. There is no intrinsic reason to believe he was politically motivated. His father a GOP, his mum a Dem. So what if he registered as a Republican? He may have done that just to please his dad. He may have been just another f**ked up kid. The USA breeds those at higher rates than any other OECD nation.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 3:08 pm

Russian Equipment Losses & Reserves (2024) – The Changing Russian Force in Ukraine (youtube.com)

At least they are no longer putting those stupid cages on their tanks. By this analysis though Russia is replacing losses with increasingly old equipment. Two years on and crawling progress. This is not what I meant, not at all, screams Putin to his generals.

Arky
July 15, 2024 3:14 pm

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Arky
July 15, 2024 3:16 pm

Bloody test

Arky
July 15, 2024 3:21 pm

Posted in full from the last thread for the record.
Note the time. 16 hours age.
Also note that almost every point I made in these posts has subsequently in the hours that followed, been taken up by the media, including the chicks weapons handling skills and the diversity hire issue.
No, Bruce, it isn’t me who needs to worry about his “meds”. And likewise, I also used to enjoy your comments Bruce. And I still will if you have the integrity to admit the footage and subsequent expert commentary supports my take.

Arky

 July 14, 2024 11:17 pm

Forget about blokes competing in girls sports.

The most horrific result of the gender ideology is five foot nothing chicky babes LARPING as secret service men.

Bruce in WA

 July 15, 2024 12:01 am

 Reply to  Arky

BS. She put her arse on the line along with the best of them!

Arky

 July 15, 2024 12:06 am

 Reply to  Bruce in WA

There was more than one of them.

And they shouldn’t f*ing be there full stop.

Arky

 July 15, 2024 12:09 am

And you should check out the weapons handling of one of them as Trump is getting in the limo.

And you should consider if, however she responded, does a five foot chick provide the required cover for six foot something Trump?

And further consider, if Trump had been seriously injured, could that chick have physically done anything to get him to safety under fire?

Arky

 July 15, 2024 12:11 am

And further consider this, I counted three of those short chicks.

That’s now. How about if most of them had been females? If I was that height, I would not put myself forward for that role as a bloke. Never mind if I had the strength limitations inherent in females.

I have experienced seeing en masse Vicpol’s female LARPers during a violent engagement with leftist scum. I can assure you they do ZERO to deter shite behaviour from the criminals.

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 Arky

 July 15, 2024 12:38 am

I’ve just been rewatching some of the footage.

That chicky babe you are referring to is nowhere I can see during the shooting. Then their is a cut in the footage of I don’t know how long and at some point another properly sized, male SS bloke appears to usher the tiny chicky babe towards Trump, she takes a position front and centre, only comes up to Trumps armpit while he is fist pumping, and THAT is the only SS individual between Trump and the mass of the crowd to his front for an extended period of time.

It’s dangerous and silly to suppose that is proper personnel for that role.

Bruce in WA.

 July 15, 2024 12:54 am

 Reply to  Arky

Oh, FFS … take your f***ing* meds … you are totally off the f***ing bracket! What the hell has happened to you Arky. I used to love your posts

*Swear words removed.

I still love you Bruce.

Crossie
Crossie
July 15, 2024 3:23 pm

Has anyone considered the possibility that it didn’t matter to the shooter if he hit Trump as long as he shot enough people there? The desired outcome is chaos which is what happened.

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Kneel
Kneel
July 15, 2024 3:26 pm

“Further to my comment this morning about the double standards (or no standards) applied to the left over their incessant advocacy of violence towards their political opponents,”

There is no double standard – it’s a single standard, viz “We’re in charge and you’re not, we’ll do what we want and screw you”. (h/t Dan Bongino)

The wailing and gnashing of teeth over the unfairness of such a standard is not apparent from the left until they are no longer in power, at which time it becomes a deafening roar – well, it would if the right ever used power the same way, which their scruples do not allow, mores the pity.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 15, 2024 3:31 pm

Has anyone considered the possibility that it didn’t matter to the shooter if he hit Trump as long as he shot enough people there? The desired outcome is chaos which is what happened.

Dunno about it not mattering to the shooter but it might not have mattered to whichever 3 letter agency organised it.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 3:31 pm

I follow Dr. Robert Malone’s website. Not because only because of his spectacular prescience re the mRNA vaccines, but because he is worthy commentator on the progression of world events & is also an amazing “homesteader” (ie small time farmer). He has this pearl to say about the events of the last 24 hours in the USA:

“With Elon now endorsing DJT, the battle lines are consolidating. Full on 5th Generation warfare coming. All across the western world. Unrestricted PsyWar. Bigly.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 15, 2024 3:32 pm

Actually Arky has one extremely solid point.
The close protection is basically a meat shield.
There has to be enough mass to stop bullets. It’s what happened to one of Regan’s bodyguards, he ended up paralysed, but may have absorbed the bullet that would have finished Ronnie

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