Open Thread – Mon 15 July 2024


Ruins in the moonlit landscape, Arnold Böcklin, 1849

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 15, 2024 3:38 pm

Filling out the Trump Assassination bingo card.
So far I’ve got:

Reckless endangerment (minimum) by SCROTUS, the Democrat political leadership, and Establishment fellow travellers – systematically demonizing and dehumanising Trump while (at best) indifferent to the obvious dog whistle to nutters.

Deliberately, politically under-resourced SS, relying on less expert assistance from local law enforcement.

A late, unlamented, dweeb looking for a place in history.

The alerted cop up the ladder – surprising and presumably rushing the dweeb into taking and missing his shot.

The SS close protection team onto their client in quick order – admittedly with a small person on the down range side – but all there to take a bullet for Trump, whatever the management failings.

Police counter snipers rapidly readjusting and ending the dweeb’s worthless existence.

An incredible and indelible image of bloodied Trump, bursting out of his protection to pump fist, backed by the Stars and Stripes. Absolutely one for the Ages.

Pious prayers and humbug about ‘no place for violence in our democracy’ from sweaty Democrats suddenly realising that, only lightly assassinated, Trump is more powerful than ever before.

The Establishment closing ranks within minutes.

My missing bit is how the dweeb found his way onto an unfamiliar roof top.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Absolutely one for the Ages.

That photo is right up there with the real Blinky the 3 eyed fish. Truly a Wile E Coyote moment.

Delta A
Delta A
July 15, 2024 4:31 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

only lightly assassinated

LoL, LoL, LoL!

Dr F, you are a Cat treasure.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:33 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Has anyone considered an accomplice? Someone to give him a lift up, just as that cop got, the one who lost his balance when the shooter aimed his gun at him and who toppled over backwards from the shoulders of the guy lifting him up. I saw that the roof could be easily accessed by someone giving another person a heave upwards and a shoulder to stand on. No need for a ladder, the rifle could even have been passed up later. Easy for an accomplice to get lost quickly in a crowd, especially outside the perimeter.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:59 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Note how as well as the truly ridiculous headlines by which the MSM (e.g. NYT) announced this assassination attempt, they also did some photoshopping. They removed the American flag from the iconic photograph. They’re getting quite Stalinist in their capacity to ‘disappear’ things in photographs that they wish had never been there. As a further insult, they showed not the actual iconic pic but one taken a few frames before, while Trump was still wincing from the pain in his ear and then rising in shock to his feet. They always do this, put up a face pic of Trump caught in an off moment – even after this assassination attempt and when they have a brilliant iconic pic to use.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 15, 2024 8:10 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Secret Service doctrine is pretty confronting. Standard police training is to stand side on under fire so as to present as small a target as possible to your adversary. Secret Service training is to do the opposite: face them front on to shield the VIP.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 3:38 pm

Have to agree with Arky re the DEI employment of the girlies in Trump’s security unit. I don’t doubt their endeavour to do their job in the face of danger. But, honestly, they are not physically up to scratch, & bumbled with their weaponry in the heat of the engagement.

They will be applauded for their courage – but that is their job. I am disputing their physical (& perhaps mental) ability to protect lives.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 4:35 pm
Reply to  Vicki

The lady detective that wasted the Bondi Junction killer is one of the few. The SS girlies looked like deer in the headlights. They were moving across each other instead of scanning the crowd. Close combat for women is frought with danger and guns are a liability close in.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 15, 2024 3:41 pm
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johanna
johanna
July 15, 2024 5:21 pm
Reply to  eric hinton

Awesome. I was at the Oxford Funhouse every time, not just the Birdies but X and others.It was small and grubby and sweaty and the toilets were filthy – wild horses couldn’t have kept me away (OK, maybe, but not without a fight.)

When I see hundreds of millions hypnotised by Taylor Swift (FFS!) it is depressing.

Zippster
Zippster
July 15, 2024 3:43 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 4:24 pm
Reply to  Zippster

I’m gonna get the E-Karen to take that down. That N said that N Trump is a blackman N. The crowd loved it. I don’t recall anyone calling the magic mulatto a N.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 7:03 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

A true Nigga, Trump is da man.

He got shot and he got up. Go Trump. Blak man.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 3:45 pm

Nick Cater provides a succinct summary of the use of violence on the Left in today’s Paywallian. The home of Barry’s old mentor, the Weather Underground, gets a mention.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 3:53 pm

“Has anyone considered the possibility that it didn’t matter to the shooter if he hit Trump as long as he shot enough people there? The desired outcome is chaos which is what happened.”
Chaos?
Seems more like it has consolidated the Trump vote.
Crook clearly didn’t care if he also killed spectators otherwise he wouldn’t have chosen a rally to make his attempt.
He wasn’t very good at taking out spectators either tbh.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 4:00 pm

The SS close protection team onto their client in quick order – admittedly with a small person on the down range side – but all there to take a bullet for Trump, whatever the management failings.

The chick in front definitely had him covered for width.
And certainly protected him from a knee-capping shot.

Ceres
Ceres
July 15, 2024 4:03 pm

“Local police officer came face-to-face with would-be assassin but backed away, sources say”

Well not exactly, according to Fox News source.
As the cop went to investigate reports there was someone on the roof, the cop climbed on the shoulders of a colleague (there was no ladder) and the shooter pointed his rifle at him so he ducked down and fell backwards off the shoulders of the colleague. Then Trump was shot. Wonder how Crooks got on the roof?
BTW apparently Trump’s team has already raised nearly $2million for the dead supporter and the two others injured.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:22 pm
Reply to  Ceres

This could have actually saved the President’s life. The time taken to lift the rifle and point at the cop meant that the shooter was just that second too late for his shot to hit the President’s brain, so it took out part of his ear instead.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 4:27 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Conservatives who think that are dreaming. The problem is that sometimes we need to think about how best to construct a bureaucracy. Can we avoid the lack of creativity, power entrenchment, and vested interests? All human institutions can become inefficient, outdated, and dangerous. We don’t have to throw the baby out with the bathwater but we do need to continually think about improving processes. This isn’t just about governments, it is about most if not all large institutions. If we don’t pay attention we will end up with same as the old shi*t.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 15, 2024 4:08 pm

I memed…

8x0xw1
Wally Dali
Wally Dali
July 15, 2024 4:09 pm

I wonder when this assassination attempt will dissappear under a flood of “asking for it” and Trump’s bloodied fist-pumping will be flagged as a provocative violent act in itself.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 15, 2024 4:38 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

The fist that launched 1000 microagressions.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 4:09 pm

Dr F at 3:38
Something you may care to add to your Bingo card.
A spate of #metoo pity trolling after the style of Jussie Smullet …

I have been inundated by death threats signed “yours faithfully, a MAGA redneck”.

Put the big bucks on Maxine Waters, Occasional Car Sex or the towel heads from Minnesota.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 6:39 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Don’t forget the Hildebeast.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 4:11 pm

Doesn’t this event now ensure the corpse will be the candidate in November? Who would now run against Trump and in all likelihood get mowed and would result in no chance for the 28 race?

Last edited 7 months ago by JC
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 4:11 pm

My missing bit is how the dweeb found his way onto an unfamiliar roof top.

This has piqued my interest too.
He lived an hour away.
Did he make reccy trips or did he just front up on a speculator?

Last edited 7 months ago by Sancho Panzer
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

How about the matter of a possible accomplice?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 6:40 pm

Yes. A crucial element is the ladder, propped against the street side of the building.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 4:16 pm

He may have been just another f**ked up kid. The USA breeds those at higher rates than any other OECD nation.

No, it doesn’t.

What it does do is give that small minority of nut jobs very easy access to semi-automatic rifles.

The difference in the US is guns.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 15, 2024 4:19 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Which explains why non inner city areas have rates of shootings comparable to Australia’s?
You mong

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 4:28 pm

Thomas Crooks was not from an inner city area. Most school shooters aren’t either.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:09 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Still ignoring the big shooting numbers, by inner city gangbangers? Doesn’t suit the narrative?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 4:36 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Back for some more rakes eh Monty?

How’s that history reading going?

You know, about Reagan and Lincoln’s assailants.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 4:46 pm

Reagan’s shooter was an incel loser from a rich family trying to impress Jodie Foster. Lincoln’s shooter was a rich Confederate. You idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:02 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Monty, you don’t read well do you?

Hinckley is a far lefty. He revels in it.

John Hinckley@JohnHinckley20

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I believe in peace, love, equity, LGBTQ rights, abortion rights, animal rights, race mixing, assault weapon ban, sharing the wealth, Green New Deal, Black Lives Matter, Prison reform and good rock ‘n’ roll. Join the John Hinckley Community.

You really are thick. I found his feed in about a minute. As I said earlier he was let out of the mental hospital in 2022. Which you’ll see if you look at his feed. He was understandably quite happy about it.

As for Booth, he was a lefty since that is what Confederates were. He was pro-slavery. The KKK came from them, and was a Democrat group for a long long time. Lincoln of course was a Republican, and you of course are an ignorant idiot.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 5:23 pm

You reckon the Confederates were lefties, Bruce? My word, that is a new one on me. You are breaking new ground in lobotomised historical hot takes there. ?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:29 pm
Reply to  m0nty

They were DemonRats, a reality that you ignore always.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:31 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Yes they were, since there is a direct linear progression from the Confederates to the KKK to the Democrat Party. This is not controversial.

And as I said Lincoln was a Republican. Booth did not like Republicans. What other party doesn’t like Republicans?

You need to educate yourself son. I suggest Shelby Foote’s excellent history for starters.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 5:47 pm

Why is it, Bruce, that the America South swung from Democrats to Republicans directly after Nixon implemented his Southern Strategy?

Your grasp of history is as good as your understanding of climate science.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:01 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Because they were fed up with Democrat plantation politics Monty. Add to that the spread of Christianity, which Democrats detest.

My grasp of history is far beyond yours since I can actually cite primary sources to support my argument. I have actually read lots of history books. You just produce weird unsupported flatus. As for climate science I would’ve thought you’d’ve learned your lesson by now. But if you ever find a climate scientist please invite them to come to Dover’s blog. So we can have fun with him, her or it. I’m sure Dover would put up a dedicated thread.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:29 pm

So your theory is that there was no Christianity in the American South before the 1960s, but all of a sudden it whooshed in to flip centuries of electoral tradition. Hoo boy.

You really are an indented-head intellectual.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:47 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Christians were at the forefront of the antislavery movement Monty.

Which you’d know if you knew any history.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 7:44 pm

You are directly contradicting yourself. What a moron.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:13 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Wilberforce was a Christian, you idiot.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Reply to  m0nty

PISS OFF, NAZI

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 5:00 pm
Reply to  m0nty

It does Monty. Have a look at the mental health stats on the USA. Staggering. Apart from that I like what Jim Jefferies said about people who argue they don’t have a mental illness so they are safe with guns … but every now and then we get a little bit sad.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 5:04 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Seems this shooter was using his father’s rifle.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:11 pm

I wonder did he have permission?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:33 pm

That also explains his less than expert handling of it. He would not have much practice time.

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 6:55 pm

I can’t agree with that, Bruce.

Trump turned his head the split second the trigger was squeezed.
That bloke was on target.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 7:03 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Fair comment. But he did have five shots from what I can discern. From only about 100 metres. With a semiautomatic AR-15.

Trump was bloody lucky. He should buy a lottery ticket.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:06 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Why do you exclude inner city gangbangers, who are responsible for most of the shooting deaths in the US, from your “small minority of nut jobs”? Is it because you are happy to ignore the majority of shooting deaths they don’t suit the lefturd “narrative”?

PS, most of the gangbangers use illegally purchased or stolen guns, is it too hard (or waysssissst) for lefturds to enforce gun control on ethnic minorities?

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 4:18 pm

JC
 July 15, 2024 4:11 pm

Doesn’t this event now ensure the corpse will the candidate in November? Who would now run against Trump and in all likelihood get mowed and would result in no chance for the 28 race?

Exactly.
With the extra added bonus of Dr Jill and her cronies white-anting from the sidelines.
Contenders the age of, say, Newsome, will just hold their cards and sit out the four years.

johanna
johanna
July 15, 2024 4:20 pm

Some of his classmates described him as supersmart. He was rejected from the gun club for being a terrible shooter. The idea that the deep state would use such a loser is nuts.

Oh, FFS, more anonymous, unsupported speculation.

Why would the gun club reject him if he was a bad shot? Do golf clubs reject lousy golfers? Bit of a non sequitor, IMHO.

As others have wisely said, we need to wait for a week or so and see what falls out of the trees. Every wannabe famous ‘journalist’ in the US, plus a lot of people with expertise about protection, ballistics etc are crawling all over this event.

Thanks to the internet, the Feds will not be the only source of data. They may well try to engineer a cover-up (if it is needed), but with so many films and photographs, plus witnesses, they are up against it.

It ain’t 1963 any more.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
July 16, 2024 4:11 pm
Reply to  johanna

They would reject him if he was dangerous in handling the weapon.
Highly likely.

140 metres, even in windy conditions, is not a difficult shot.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 15, 2024 4:22 pm

It might also get parties serious about that whole ” one heartbeat from the presidency” thing after the Kamel- toe experiment.
Having a VP who outshines the actual prez might be a nice novelty

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 15, 2024 8:15 pm

When George Dubya Bush had Sick Cheney of the dicky ticker as VP, the standing joke was that Dubya was just a heartbeat away from the presidency.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 4:30 pm

Vicki

 July 15, 2024 3:31 pm

I follow Dr. Robert Malone’s website. Not because only because of his spectacular prescience re the mRNA vaccines,

He was a huge fan of mRNA technologies, wrote papers advocating the use for pandemics, took out a number of patents that were concepts rather than products for mRNA. I despise patent concepts. Ideas are easy, execution is the imperative.

A few days ago I read a paper which argued that most of the excess deaths are attributable to the vaccines.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 5:59 pm
Reply to  John H.

Of course he was “a huge fan”- when he worked for Salk he actually did the initial development on lipid technology for the delivery of the mRNA! This is why, when he contracted Covid in early 2020 & suffered adverse effects, he was easily persuaded by (I think by Moderna) to be vaccinated as a therapeutic. This nearly killed him, he reversed his confidence in the vaccine & began to research why the vaccines were dangerous.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 4:33 pm

johanna

 July 15, 2024 4:20 pm

Some of his classmates described him as supersmart. He was rejected from the gun club for being a terrible shooter. The idea that the deep state would use such a loser is nuts.

Oh, FFS, more anonymous, unsupported speculation.

Why would the gun club reject him if he was a bad shot? Do golf clubs reject lousy golfers? Bit of a non sequitor, IMHO.

As others have wisely said, we need to wait for a week or so and see what falls out of the trees. 

Those were quotes from those who knew him. Not my speculations. If you bothered to read carefully you might have noted that I raised questions more than answers. Here everyone is putting up there preferred hypotheses, like it was a deep state operation, or that he must have been a leftie. FFS you can’t even correctly read a comment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 5:02 pm
Reply to  John H.

There are only 2 kinds of golf clubs. Ones you want to join and ones you can’t join. They are further divided into 2 types – broke ones and ones with too much money.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 4:35 pm

On the Congressman who dismissed the staffer, and further information supplied by Johanna…

I did not know that, Joh and Pogria.

Creep. Hypocrite. Example to other creeps and hypocrites to sack creepy and hypocritical staff members despite their innermost motivations.

If we waited for complete purity of motive, we’d be waiting a hell of a long time.

Just drove 700km home and catching up on events. I may be some time. 😀

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 4:50 pm
Reply to  calli

Happy to help, Calli.
And help yourself to a very large Gin and Tonic once you put up your feet. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 4:58 pm

You suspect “BBC interview man” becomes the Zapruder film for the attempted Trump assassination. Over to you 4 Chan.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 4:59 pm

Trump reckons he’s going to deliver a speech of national unity at the GOP convention, now that’s a laugh. After that Tucker comes out with a solemn soliloquy on respecting electoral outcomes, Kimberley Guilfoyle denounces plastic surgery, and MTG professes her love of the Deep State. LOL.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 5:05 pm
Reply to  m0nty

PISS OFF, NAZI.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:05 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Would that be the same Tucker who warned 6 months ago there would be an assassination attempt on Trump?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 5:06 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Careful mUnty, LOL was the preferred sign off of the late (and widely unlamented) Mr Rotten.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 5:53 pm
Reply to  m0nty

It will astound many – but it is quite possible that this is what he will do. Now, this may not be the Trump that his enemies know and hate. But, if you understand the man, it makes perfect sense. The foiled assassination will be quite an existential moment for him. It is not something that happens to many! That he survived it….will very likely modify many of his eccentricities.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 4:59 pm

UK Energy Secretary Ed Miliband, who has just approved several giant solar panel arrays on thousands of acres of farming land with dozens more to come, prompting concerns over food security, defends himself

“Some of these cases had been held up for months before I arrived in the department. They were put on my desk on Monday, and I’ve made a decision in three days. This is the speed we’re working at to achieve energy independence, cut bills for families and kick-start green economic growth. We will make tough decisions with ambition and urgency – all part of our plan to make the U.K. a clean energy superpower.”

The Telegraph (UK)

Now…where have I heard that before?

Anyway, on to Net Zero Year Zero!

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 5:08 pm
Reply to  Roger

You can’t scratch yourself in the UK without planning approval.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 5:27 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

If only Red Ed was looking after house extensions; he’d be a lot more useful and less dangerous!

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
July 15, 2024 8:37 pm
Reply to  Roger

The UK doesn’t have the sun nor the countryside to spare for large scale solar. I suppose it upsets the right people though if you’re Marxist Ed Miliband, the dimmer of the two.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 15, 2024 5:03 pm

Our betters speaketh:

Albanese said it was not the day for playing politics and warned against the spread of misinformation.

“One of the things I urge everyone to do is to exercise caution when reading unverified reports of the events and to seek out credible news sources,” he said. “We all need to be on guard against those seeking to use misinformation to create division. And this is a time for unity. It’s a time for calm. It’s a time for allowing the authorities in the United States to do their jobs.”

The authorities in the United States already did their jobs. Thankfully, not well.

And so we must focus in a concerted way on those words, a “shared set of facts”. We are all entitled to our views, as the saying goes, but not to our own facts — those must be free of manipulation and conjecture.

Ah blow it out your arse, Karvelas, you sanctimonious dissembling twerp. No way I’m sharing your “facts”.

And ‘sharing’ is the wrong word – she expects me to unquestionably accept what she presents as fact. When we are told we need to inform ourselves solely via “credible news sources”, and this bint is a scribbler for one of those “credible news sources”, what she’s actually saying is that when she tells you something is a fact, you aren’t allowed to disagree. No. Blow it out your arse. And once more again for good measure.

But while we’re speaking of sources of misinformation, who has been the largest peddlers of misinformation and creators of division in recent years? Why, it’s those same “credible media sources” just like the ABC (which is arguably the worst). Think of the countless lies they propagated during the manufactured pandemic. And who was it that went to war against those unwilling to take the experimental death shot, piling endless scorn on, and whipping up hysteria against, anyone who dared not comply with the mandates or refused to bow down to the cult of masking?

She is not wrong, though. Society does need a shared set of facts. Or at least some kind of concord on how one should be arrived at. An excellent start to that would be to agree that whatever people like Karvelas broadcast is not to be regarded as fact. Anything emanating from her and her ilk should be subject to a rebuttable presumption of deceit. If these people tell you the sun will rise tomorrow, get a second opinion.

I mean, just look at how she’s framed the scene of the attempted assassination of Trump:

A bloodied former president, fist in the air, defiantly standing up after being forced to the ground by gunshots at a political rally in the United States. 

Gunshots forced him to the ground? Um no HE WAS SHOT! That is why he hit the ground! It wasn’t a nosebleed!

This disturbing and chilling image will remain seared in the collective memories of not only Americans but people across the world.

No it wasn’t a disturbing and chilling image – it was a singular image of greatness and brazen fearlessness from a leader of a kind seldom chronicled. Trump is a titan of a man. My respect for him has risen exponentially. Who wouldn’t want a leader with such obvious instinctive physical courage, and who instinctively did what needed to be done, what signals to send to both friends and foes? Here is what I think of that image – it literally makes me question my skepticism of divine intervention. So are we off to a good start with our shared set of facts, Karvelas?

Also, let’s be honest about scum like this. Despite all of the deeply insincere concern coming from her kind at present about all of this division and polarisation (which many of them expressly blame on Trump as they moan about it – at least Karvelas didn’t stoop that low, although one of her ABC colleagues did in an article yesterday), they all privately wish that bullet hit its mark. That is the greatest dishonesty, the greatest hypocrisy, of all from them at this time. But you’d be a fool to expect anything more from the likes of them.

Now, Karvelas. If you’re reading (I’m sure you’re not), you now know how I feel about you and people like you. Perhaps you might tell me how you and I are supposed to have a shared set of facts.

Last edited 7 months ago by Oh come on
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 5:09 pm
Reply to  Oh come on

Plus 50,000,000 thumbs up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 5:09 pm
Reply to  Oh come on

A shared set of facts is the new bipartisanship.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 5:12 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

You hear a lot about the need for bipartisanship from the Liars in government. In Opposition, not so much.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:26 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

In opposition, they always want the government to “reach out across the aisle”.

That is, surrender, thus providing bipartisanship.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 6:25 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Fortunately a lot of Lieborals are more than comfortable with this approach.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 5:15 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

There are alternative facts.

Kellyanne Conway: Press Secretary Sean Spicer Gave ‘Alternative Facts’ | Meet The Press | NBC News (youtube.com)

Karvelas goes a step further, she believes in alternative realities.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:15 pm
Reply to  Oh come on

Ah blow it out your arse, Karvelas, you sanctimonious dissembling twerp. No way I’m sharing your “facts”.

She spelled “farts” wrongly.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:06 pm

Albanese said it was not the day for playing politics and warned against the spread of misinformation.

He should stop doing it then.

Last edited 7 months ago by Bruce of Newcastle
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 7:22 pm

Albanese is a typical Lefty – let’s his side belt a righty, then demands tolerance and non violence from us before we hit back.
Just like they did with Hamas and Israel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:07 pm

Why does mUntyfa exclude inner city gangbangers, who are responsible for most of the shooting deaths in the US, from his “small minority of nut jobs”? Is it because he is happy to ignore the majority of shooting deaths they don’t suit the lefturd “narrative”?

PS, most of the gangbangers use illegally purchased or stolen guns, is it too hard (or waysssissst) for lefturds to enforce gun control on ethnic minorities?

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:09 pm

Some of the billionaires appear to be moving from the liability side to the asset side of Trump’s balance sheet.

@JeffBezos

Our former President showed tremendous grace and courage under literal fire tonight. So thankful for his safety and so sad for the victims and their families.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 5:47 pm
Reply to  JC

Mmmm….with friends like this, you don’t need enemies….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:55 pm
Reply to  JC

Now put your money there too, Jeff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 6:27 pm
Reply to  JC

Suspect Bezos, as Murdoch was want to do, has one eye on trying to business under an incoming administration.

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 5:14 pm

m0nty
July 15, 2024 4:59 pm

Trump reckons he’s going to deliver a speech of national unity at the GOP convention, now that’s a laugh. After that Tucker comes out with a solemn soliloquy on respecting electoral outcomes, Kimberley Guilfoyle denounces plastic surgery, and MTG professes her love of the Deep State. LOL.

A reminder of your accuracy in predicting the future, or the present for that matter.

You said this;
——————
“m0nty says:   
November 12, 2022 at 7:01 pm   

JC, I know you are not into tech so you don’t get this, but Musk has already killed Twitter. It is dead. The only chance for the company is if he sells it soon for about 20 cents in the dollar. Otherwise everyone loses their shirt.
————————-

I think twitter/X is still going and making a profit.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 5:29 pm
Reply to  KevinM

X is making gargantuan losses, Kevin. It only exists due to being propped up by Musk’s vast wealth from other sources.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:53 pm
Reply to  KevinM

X is the word on everyone’s lips now. Twitter is over, done and dusted.

X is apparently doing well from what I’ve heard, which is nothing. lol

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 5:14 pm

mUnter, inevitably falling into the Liability Bob playbook:

The difference in the US is guns

Making the same mistakes as well.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 15, 2024 9:21 pm

In mutley’s world the tent had it coming.

Delta A
Delta A
July 15, 2024 5:17 pm

Crossie

 July 15, 2024 3:23 pm

Has anyone considered the possibility that it didn’t matter to the shooter if he hit Trump as long as he shot enough people there? 

I got me a Trump Assassination bingo card too.

So, this socially inept loser is approached by baddies (I like Deep State, but feel free to speculate) and the baddies go, “Hey, kid, wanna make some money and be famous and have everyone go, ‘Ooh-ah, Loser is one cool dude!’ and be famous forever?

And Loser goes, “Meh…”

So the baddies help him on the roof and hand him a big gun thingy. “Aim in that general direction and pop off a few shots (remember, it has been stated that the shots were sprayed) and one of our guys will take out Orange Man, and we’ll come and get you off the roof later.” The latter bit, you will agree, they actually did.

So Trump’s talking to the crowd and the baddie sniper gets real excited because he has a perfect head shot lined up and then Dammit! Trump looks to the right and gets a pierced ear. In the ensuing chaos, the baddies take out poor, dumb Loser, according to plan, and all else is forgotten when Trump rises triumphant, pumping the air and impressing (if only momentarily) 97.3% of the universe.

I’m Delta A and that’s my theory.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:47 pm
Reply to  Delta A

Fits in a bit with my theory, Delta A, that there was an accomplice (or even two of them) who helped the attention-sick kid up onto the roof (easily done if you see the height of it, which we know allowed a cop on another’s shoulder to peer over and the shooter to threaten him causing him to topple back off). Hey, maybe those cops were actually in on the game?

The accomplice/s, likely local discontents not the deep state, could have easily disappeared back into the straggling crowd around the perimeter where the roof building was situated.

This may not have been exactly a lone wolf operation.

I’m Lizzie B and that’s my theory.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  Delta A

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. 😀

Rabz
July 15, 2024 7:41 pm
Reply to  Delta A

Incredibly, no one has questioned Tony Abbott’s role in this incident.

Delta A
Delta A
July 15, 2024 8:57 pm
Reply to  Rabz

LoL!

Love you, Rabz!

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 15, 2024 5:17 pm

The difference in the US is the security state is out of control and likes it that way very much and will do whatever it takes to remain out of control.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:18 pm

Kevin
According to the latest from the spaceman, Musk, X is now cash flow positive.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:24 pm
Reply to  JC

Never rely on someone who failed Economics 1 for economic or financial forecasts.

Louis Lit
Louis Lit
July 16, 2024 9:56 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Um if you did eco 1 you still would not know what this means

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 7:12 pm
Reply to  JC

I took that for granted as soon as I read monty’s post.

Megan
Megan
July 16, 2024 8:56 am
Reply to  132andBush

Hahaha! Me too!

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:22 pm

Okay, if they can keep the cheating down to a minimum, Trumpster could win NY and NJ.

I can’t congratulate him because the circumstances are so awful, but credit where credit is due. Cronkite made the prediction that Trump would be assassinated this year. He was wrong by literally an inch or less.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
July 16, 2024 4:17 pm
Reply to  JC

Well, you don’t have to be Nostradamus to pick that, given the form of the Clinton gang, the Biden Crime syndicate and the Kenyans.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 5:23 pm

they all privately wish that bullet hit its mark.

Oh yes. Yes they do.

I saw that on other faces besides the media. The downward inflection, the sad lament…”he lives”.

The foul infection has gone well beyond the States. It has metastasised into our own culture. There are people here who want him dead. And they will laugh about it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 5:31 pm
Reply to  calli

One of those pollutes this blog.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 5:26 pm

m0nty
 July 15, 2024 4:59 pm

Trump reckons he’s going to deliver a speech of national unity at the GOP convention, now that’s a laugh.

He could discover a cure for cancer and you lot would be complaining he was putting oncologists out of work.
No surprises there.
But providing he sets the right tone – and he is a peerless political speaker – he will swing enough votes to make this one virtually uncheatable.
Sad for you lot, but that’s where we are.
Your man Crook had one chance and he blew it … like brains all over a tin roof on a warm Pennsylvania night.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 5:36 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You have a beautiful way with words sometimes, Sancho.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 5:55 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Trump setting the right tone, LOL. He never stops whining. He will make it all about himself, how much of a victim he is, how it’s all Biden’s fault.

He will ramble on and on about battery-powered boats fighting sharks with frikken laser beams in their heads.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 6:06 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Put the bong down.

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 6:07 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Can you remember this after the speech, or it goes straight to the forgettory?

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 5:33 pm

And so we must focus in a concerted way on those words, a “shared set of facts”. We are all entitled to our views, as the saying goes, but not to our own facts — those must be free of manipulation and conjecture.

Off topic, but since we’re talking about facts:

Chromosomes determine sex. That’s a fact. Share it around.

Great! Now that everyone at the ABC is down with that, let’s move on…

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 5:34 pm

JC
 July 15, 2024 5:09 pm

Some of the billionaires appear to be moving from the liability side to the asset side of Trump’s balance sheet.

@JeffBezos

Our former President showed tremendous grace and courage under literal fire tonight. So thankful for his safety and so sad for the victims and their families.

Guys like Bezos eventually reach a level of wealth where money becomes largely meaningless, except for those playing “most toys at the end wins”.
Their attention turns to their legacy.
One thing the smart ones realise is that the place is now a tinder box, and they do not want their legacy tarnished by association with those who would flick lighted matches.
Last week it was possible association with a President who has clearly lost his remaining marbles.
But this week the stakes are exponentially higher.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:34 pm

Fatboy

It’s a private company so it’s none of your donut business if it’s making a profit or losing money.

However:

Social media giant X (formerly Twitter) expects to be profitable by early 2024, according to CEO Linda Yaccarino. Social media giant X (formerly Twitter) could become profitable by the start of 2024, CEO Linda Yaccarino has confirmed in an appearance at Vox Media’s Code conference.

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 5:38 pm

m0nty
July 15, 2024 5:29 pm

Reply to  KevinM

X is making gargantuan losses, Kevin. It only exists due to being propped up by Musk’s vast wealth from other sources.

I assume you have access to the books, to know that.
Or just an other fantasy wishful thinking.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 5:39 pm

Roger

 July 15, 2024 5:33 pm

And so we must focus in a concerted way on those words, a “shared set of facts”. We are all entitled to our views, as the saying goes, but not to our own facts — those must be free of manipulation and conjecture.

Off topic, but since we’re talking about facts:

Chromosomes determine sex. That’s a fact. Share it around.

That’s an alternate fact that fails to account for XXY, XYY, SOX-9,SRY.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 5:44 pm
Reply to  John H.

Fairly rare. And anyway it’s a reasonable thing to say anyone with a Y chromosome is male.

Some poor people like Caster Semenya are truly indeterminate, but again very rare.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 5:53 pm
Reply to  John H.

Those are all genes, chromosomes or mutations thereof, John.

Rare exceptions that prove the rule.

And rather beside the point.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 7:29 pm
Reply to  John H.

Does anyone remember Zoe Brain?
I wonder what she’s doing now?

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:41 pm

X, Twitter, bonds maturing in 2030 appear to be trading okay at 90 cents. I don’t know what the yield on these things are, but the price shows no distress.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/bonds/twitter_incdl-notes_202222-30_regs-bond-2030-usu8882pab32

STFU fatboy.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 5:44 pm

Ich bin ein Jacksonian!
America’s Jacksonian Turn

The assassination attempt gives new power to an old political tendency.By Walter Russell Mead

Donald Trump was only glancingly wounded on Saturday, but the effects of the attack and of his courageous response will be profound. His chance of victory substantially increased, and the movement he represents will continue to be a powerful force in American policy regardless of November’s result.

Mr. Trump is part of a strain of American politics that Andrew Jackson brought to power in 1828. In domestic politics, Jacksonians are skeptical of big business, hate the political and social establishment, and demand “common sense” solutions to complex problems. They support the military but not an officer class seen as distant from the values and folkways of the nation—West Point stuffed shirts in the 19th century, “woke generals” today. They assume the political class is deeply and irreformably corrupt.

In foreign policy Jacksonians feel no need to spread democracy around the world. Instinctively realist, they view the United Nations and international law that would bind the U.S. with fear and contempt. Absent serious threats against America, Jacksonians have little interest in foreign affairs. But when the U.S. is attacked, they believe every measure is justified in its defense. Jacksonians don’t regret assaults on civilian targets during World War II, including Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Relentless warfare against terrorists is justified; most Jacksonians support Israel’s war in Gaza and believe the U.S. should respond to terror with the same vigor.

Sept. 11 was one of the moments in history, like Pearl Harbor, or the British attacks on Lexington and Concord in 1775, that ignited a Jacksonian firestorm across the U.S. and mobilized previously isolationist and almost pacifist Americans for war. Other such moments are the publication of the 1917 Zimmermann Telegram (in which Imperial Germany offered to help Mexico regain the territories lost in the Mexican-American War if it joined Germany’s side in World War I) and the destruction of the Maine in Havana (allegedly by Spain) in 1898.

What Jacksonians regard as the unsatisfactory outcomes of the “endless” wars in Iraq and Afghanistan led them to sour on the U.S. military presence in the Middle East. That didn’t change their attitude toward international politics and the need for a strong defense. In recent years, China has replaced jihadist terror as the prime enemy, but new terror attacks in the U.S. could easily reignite the fires.

For most Democratic policymakers, the presence and power of Jacksonian America is a national liability and a political danger. At home, Jacksonian hatred of educated elites and contempt for their policy preferences is a potent source of opposition to Democratic cultural and social policies. Abroad, Jacksonians’ skepticism about international organizations and law, their resistance to global climate policy, and their indifference to ideological crusades threatens essential elements of what most Democratic policymakers believe are sensible policies required to save the world.
Jacksonian America likes strong leaders, even those like George Washington and the two Roosevelts who come from elite backgrounds and whose policy preferences don’t always align perfectly with Jacksonian ideas. Jacksonians are deeply skeptical of most politicians; Jacksonian faith and loyalty, once given, can be enduring. This gives Jacksonian leaders flexibility on policies; the base will often follow where they lead.

Saturday’s events made America more Jacksonian and gave Mr. Trump an unbreakable hold on Jacksonian America. On the one hand, the assassination attempt reinforced the sense that Jacksonian America is under siege. On the other, Mr. Trump’s fist-waving defiance and determination quieted any doubt about his personal courage. Attacks on him from the political and journalistic establishments will only boost his standing with his followers and inflame Jacksonian hatred of elites.

The more Jacksonian America becomes, the harder it is for Democrats to win elections and to govern. Team Biden sought to tamp down the Jacksonian fires, but the most important fact about American politics in 2024, even before Saturday, was that these efforts have fallen short.
Democrats hoped that the superior wisdom of elite-guided policies would generate results that would convince the peasants to lay down their pitchforks and torches. Bidenomics would make Americans feel more prosperous at home as an enlightened foreign policy—wise, focused on alliances—would make the world safe again. In that atmosphere, Team Biden hoped, Mr. Trump’s rhetoric and promise of disruption would resonate with fewer voters and alarm more. The strategy was failing even before the debate. Bidenomics isn’t having the desired effect. Inflation and the high interest rates required to suppress it have infuriated voters, as have the administration’s controversial stands on immigration, gender, crime and climate change. The sense of growing international danger has made Mr. Trump’s attacks on the administration weakness resonate with worried voters who don’t see a world returning to stable normalcy.

The Butler, Pa., attack exposed another problem with the Biden strategy. Making Mr. Trump toxic has been the core theme of Democratic campaign rhetoric all year. Comparing him to Hitler and calling him a coward, a traitor and an existential threat to democracy have been Democratic talking points. This strategy boomeranged in spectacular fashion as, post-Butler, Democratic anti-Trump rhetoric looks like irresponsible demagoguery recklessly pushing the nation into crisis to serve President Biden’s political ambition.After Butler, America has suddenly become a more Jacksonian nation. The shadow of Old Hickory looms larger than ever, and Donald Trump stands taller as his undisputed heir.

Anders
Anders
July 15, 2024 5:50 pm
Reply to  Vicki

The shadow of Old Hickory looms larger than ever, and Donald Trump stands taller as his undisputed heir.

Hopefully not too much taller as the SS are dangerously short as it is.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 6:33 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Thanks. I’ve not read much US history, not even Custer at the Alamo.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:50 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Seems a bit too fond of Team Biden for my taste. Not a word about ten million illegal immigrants in this spiel. Old HIckory may have more of high value and morality going for it than this writer allows.

cohenite
July 15, 2024 5:47 pm

Dickless oozes:

The difference in the US is guns.

This was the proffered reason in the 2 brain cell media today with the cacked consensus that guns were the cause and the problem. Like everything else the media and their dickless useful idiots vomit, this is wrong.

1 If you take out black and hispanic gun crime the gun crime rate in the US is the same as Australia’s: The Geek in Pictures: Contra-Grabber Edition | Power Line (powerlineblog.com)

2 Gun crimes are concentrated in demorat areas which have the tightest gun controls: Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders (crimeresearch.org) Murders in US Are Very Concentrated, and They Are Becoming Even More So by John R. Lott :: SSRN

3 Cities which the least gun control have the lowest gun crime.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 6:13 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Facts! mUntyfa don’t care for your facts! Why would you believe your lyin’ eyes when lefturds can give you a prepared narrative.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 6:36 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Definitely not shared facts here. Time for ALPBC Verify to weave its magic.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 5:56 pm

Another black man telling it how it is.

@WallStreetApes

The Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Just Woke Up The World, This Video Is Already Approaching Almost A Quarter Of A Million Likes

“There is one president in this race that had an assassination attempt taken against him. As a matter of fact, if you think back to the last president that had an assassination attempt to taken on him that has gotten this close, you’re gonna go back aways. And if you actually look at the presidents that were assassinated and you look at what they were doing to the government money, you would realize the reason they’re getting taken out isn’t because some random Joe Schmo down town doesn’t want that president. It’s because the system feels threatened.”

The World is Awake

This is an excellent video and definitely worth watching

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 5:57 pm

Liz

In the past few days, Musk asked folks if they wanted to keep X as the name or change it back to Twitter.

The poor CEO. I can’t imagine what she’s dealing with. 🙂

I could imagine Musk would be great to work with/for on the engineering side because it’s a pretty definite field. But FMD, he would be a nightmare outside of that.

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Megan
Megan
July 16, 2024 9:06 am
Reply to  JC

Musk is exactly the type of leader I’d love to work with. I’d never get bored.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 5:57 pm

Jacksonians are skeptical of big business, hate the political and social establishment, and demand “common sense” solutions to complex problems. 

Jackson was the first populist president.

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Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 6:01 pm
Reply to  Roger

Jacksonians are skeptical of big business, hate the political and social establishment, and demand “common sense” solutions to complex problems. 

And there is nothing wrong with that!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 6:15 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Ich Bien Eine Jacksonian.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 7:42 pm
Reply to  Roger

Sheeit.
I’m a Jacksonian and I don’t even live in the US.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 5:57 pm
cohenite
July 15, 2024 5:59 pm

In Australia the gun situation is even more striking. Since Port Arthur gun ownership went up but gun crime went down:

Declining firearm violence: Stats disprove Greens’ political ammo – The Big Smoke

That is apart from suburbs which have a muzzie concentration.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 6:01 pm

A different take on history to expand minds and hearts for NAIDOC WeekClaudette RizziBunbury Herald
Mon, 15 July 2024 12:00PM

An opportunity to rethink history for Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians through thought and discussion opened minds and warmed hearts during the premiere of The Visitors at the weekend.
Playwright Jane Harrison set the production when the First Fleet of colonisers arrived in Australia, inviting audiences to reimagine those events with a twist — and consider how that could have changed the course of history.
The visual set was an uncolonised sea shore, with a group of Indigenous elders and community members dressed in suits instead of traditional dress, looking out and awaiting the arrival of the first ships to arrive at Sydney Cove in 1788.
Powerful dialogue began in Indigenous language and was then presented in English.
It suggested a conversation should be had about culture, tradition and lore. It questions whether if it was seen and celebrated by the visitors, and welcomed at the arrival of settlers, would things be different?
What would Australia be like if roles were reversed and settlers themselves were welcomed without conflict?
After the show, a poignant and insightful Q&A session was had with the cast and director, facilitated by BREC executive director Fiona de Garis.
Audience members asked the actors if they felt they carried the weight of the events of history, and the recent referendum, and if it was difficult portraying the story or learning the script.
The actors said they used their platform with a sense of pride and purpose, and didn’t feel like they had to carry a particular historical weight.
Questions were also asked about the end of the play, during which cast members removed their suit jackets to reveal symbolic Indigenous art in the lining.
These questions provoked thought about what things would be like if it was Indigenous emblems and symbolism at the core of government and culture today.
A heartwarming takeaway was a reminder that welcome to country ceremonies were part of Aboriginal law and society years before current society even existed, let alone committed to utilising them.
We left the show feeling as though there was an opportunity to forge better relationships with attitudes that better reflect those traditions, and our current connection to them.
Audience members of all different backgrounds were welcomed to think and feel differently about issues of race and Australian identity and to help create a better future.

Why is “Malarkey” a word that springs readily to mind?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 15, 2024 6:19 pm

GF is aboriginal, a gun shearer by the looks and same with his numerous sons.

She looks like a quintessential tax hooverer that would be broke in a just world where we didn’t fund this crap. Sydney Festival throwing in a few more dimes.

Her grandfather & his progeny through hard work helped build this great country, she contributes to it’s demise. Third generation curse at work.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 6:03 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:06 pm

Report: Senior House Democrat Tells Axios, ‘We’ve All Resigned Ourselves to a Second Trump Presidency’

That’s the best thing about the miserable last few weeks. It makes it impossible for the Dems to steal the election without starting a civil war.

They will go to plan B which is to do like 2016-2020 which is to undermine and stonewall and stymie using corrupt courts and the deep state.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 6:07 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

 July 15, 2024 6:01 pm

A heartwarming takeaway was a reminder that welcome to country ceremonies were part of Aboriginal law and society years before current society even existed, let alone committed to utilising them.

We left the show feeling as though there was an opportunity to forge better relationships with attitudes that better reflect those traditions, and our current connection to them.

I’ve raised the following on other forums and people there understood the obvious. Without a written history people can make up stuff. Even with written history debates can continue for centuries yet we are expected to accept their accounts of tradition and must not challenge it.

Evidence is a useful thing. During the first years of settlement are there any accounts of being welcomed to country?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:29 pm
Reply to  John H.

No. Early explorers did mention that male visitors from other areas were sometimes greeted by the exchange of sweat from the underarms of the receiving male and the newcomer. Nothing at all about ‘smoking ceremonies’ of welcome. It seems there was not an awful lot of welcoming going on in many tribes except during times of ‘gathering together’ for ceremonies associated the food profusion (bogan moth arrivals etc) when old hostilities were temporarily dropped. Mostly the ‘welcome’ to outsiders consisted of a spear in the thigh and ongoing tribal warfare.

johnjjj
johnjjj
July 15, 2024 10:29 pm

Yeah, I did wonder about the Chinese woks used in the ‘Welcome’

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 15, 2024 6:08 pm

Just found the family cat under the house. She’s curled up into a ball and died. 20 years + was a good innings.

Mum grabbed a pillow case for me to wrap her in. Dug a hole in the backyard and buried. Garden nursery tomorrow to pick a plant to put on top of her.

Losing a pet certainly can smack you around. I’ll get mum a rescue pet in a months time.

—–

Cathy Warren@ 5:00.

“Big boys don’t cry”

Well, I did.

The Making of 10cc’s “I’m Not in Love”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oxe4mlsQos

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:18 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Sad to hear that Steve.

Helen
Helen
July 15, 2024 11:03 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Steve I am so so sorry. What a blessed cat to live out 20 happy years in your family. And it sounds as though she died in her sleep. God Bless.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:33 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Big men do cry. Hairy had some streaming tears when Attapuss breathed his last. I was sobbing huge sobs, so his pain was less obvious but definitely there.

Ask you mum re a new kitty. She may find a month too soon, but perhaps not. Ask first.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 6:45 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Mme Zulu is rather fond of cats. Over the years, we’ve had to have three “Put down.” For some strange reason, it always falls to me to take them for the last trip to the vet…

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 6:54 pm

Zulu – we now have the vet come to the house to do the deed. It saves them the terror of going to the vet – which they generally greatly fear.

At the farm, we are now starting to have to put down old stud cows who, in their 20s, suddenly decline. We have a young “sharpshooter” come at night to put a bullet in the right place so that it is instantaneous – no fear, no realisation.

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 6:50 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Steve – that shows the immense love you had for your cat. I howl for every pet that eventually dies. It is such a wrench for them to leave our lives when they were so loved. Some more than others. When our spaniel could not be cured of her illness and was “put down” I started daily runs to expel my grief. Ran miles until it subsided.

Delta A
Delta A
July 15, 2024 7:10 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Very sad news about you beloved pussy-cat, Steve. So sorry.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:00 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Steve,
very sad to read your mum’s cat died. But, so damn happy that you found her.
The most soul-destroying thing is not knowing, not having the earthly body to be able to say goodbye, then grieve.
The tangible is beyond price.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
July 15, 2024 8:20 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

Sad to hear that, Steve. Pets take a lot of memories with them, often the mode of their passing can overwhelm the years and decades of their shared life, so it is good that you found her, and can give her a final resting place.

Tom
Tom
July 15, 2024 6:16 pm

NEW: Secret Service Identified Rooftop Next to Trump Pennsylvania Event as Security Vulnerability Days Before Rally – But Still Didn’t Secure It

As each hour passes since Saturday night, it’s looking more like a leadership failure in the Secret Service — from the diversity hire who runs the agency down to the local soy boys on the ground who left it to a local police marksman to take down the Trump shooter only after he started unloading his clip in Trump’s direction.

Zippster
Zippster
July 15, 2024 7:59 pm
Reply to  Tom

which part of the bureaucracy doesn’t have a leadership failure??

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 6:16 pm

Off topic trivia.

BoN, you are man of science, maybe you can answer this.

Has gravity or the density of gravel or both increased in the last 15 odd years?

I know others are in the same boat and understand the reason I’m asking.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:25 pm
Reply to  KevinM

I know as I get older that the force of gravity seems like it’s getting heavier. 😀

The gravitational constant isn’t changing as far as anyone knows, although if it has it is an unnoticeably small change. Gravel I don’t much deal with though, so I can’t say anything about it.

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 6:34 pm

Thanks.
The reason I asked is, fifteen years ago I spread 10 yards of gravel in about 6 hours using a shovel, rake and a wheel barrow.

Last two days, same amount of gravel same tools and it’s still only half finished after 10 hours of work.

I am pooped despite frequent coffee breaks.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:00 pm
Reply to  KevinM

Blame excessive wear on the rake, Kevin. It’s now less efficient that it was 15 years ago.
🙂

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:02 pm
Reply to  KevinM

Haw! 😀
Welcome to AGE! 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:08 pm
Reply to  KevinM

😀

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 15, 2024 7:06 pm
Reply to  KevinM

BoN might explain the physics better but on geology, density depends on many factors like source location, mineral make up of the source rock and maybe even weathering.

Depends on what gravel is being used as well. Most common is blue stone from Basalts where density is average of 2.8 to 3. I have seen igneous intrusives used as gravel like andesites which have density lower at 2.5-2.8 but they are lighter shades of grey and have seen other igneous rocks put trough a crusher.

However a quick search shows suppliers can use sandstones as well. Their density can range from 2.2 to 2.8.

Without knowing more and looking at the gravel can’t tell you much more.

KevinM
KevinM
July 15, 2024 7:22 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Tnx Rockdoctor
Not a lot changed on my part health or fitness wise, so I put it down to gravity or different material. Definitively feels heavier to shovel and wheel about.

Oh well, I suppose I haven’t done it lately has something to do with it as well. Never mind, it will be done soon.

DavidH
DavidH
July 15, 2024 9:10 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Could it be a case of anti-shrinkflation? Delivering gravel of a much greater density than in the past? Wait a while and it may be all gold. How much work would that be?

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:17 pm

Andrew Jackson, eh. Hmm.

But but… he was a Democrat! And as Bruce points out, Democrats have always been evil communists of the Confederacy, and still are to this very day!!

Arky
July 15, 2024 6:27 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Communist adjacent.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:29 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Idiot he was Prez three decades before the Civil War. He owned hundreds of slaves. KKK supporter Robert Byrd whose wiki I linked for you would be the last gasp of that horrible history.

My gt^5 granny was an African slave btw. She had 8 children with the sugar plantation owner, 6 survived to adulthood.

m0nty
m0nty
July 15, 2024 6:32 pm

It is a wonderfully elastic intellectual tradition that can claim both Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln, as if they belonged to the same party.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:37 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Let me reiterate Monty. Andrew Jackson owned hundreds of slaves. The Democrat Party is the party of slavery. That extended to the KKK after the war. Robert Byrd, senior Democrat, was a proud KKK member.

John Wilkes Booth shot dead a Republican President because that President was abolishing slavery.

Another man tried to shoot dead a President yesterday in support of similarly repulsive ideology.

And here you are supporting those repulsive ideologies.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 7:33 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Try to avoid slavish following of ideology. Think for yourself if you are capable of doing so.

Apart from the slavery, which elements of Jacksonian policy would the present DemonRats follow? Not too many, I suspect. After all, they hate Trump for being interested in some of them.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:04 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Gawd, go back to your fapping.

Arky
July 15, 2024 6:26 pm

My boxing trainer, who is a good guy, doesn’t like Trump I found out today.
In fact he thought it would have been good if the bullet had done the job.
Now, when others on here describe similar situations, I think “blooming hell, why would you tolerate comments like that and not just cut that idiot away”.
Conversation ensued, wherein it became apparent he didn’t know someone was killed.
Maybe I need to take more into account that everyone isn’t as plugged into politics, don’t always know what we know or have the political junky experiences to put everything in context. And even we who do can end up in violent disagreement about minor bullshit.
What hope do most people who are just concerned with their everyday lives and listening to the news bulletins on Rock FM on the hour?
So I still like the bloke as much as before, and our conversations remain interesting given everything else he is well informed about.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 6:46 pm
Reply to  Arky

What hope do most people who are just concerned with their everyday lives and listening to the news bulletins on Rock FM on the hour?

We’re an apathetic country starting to wake up from a slumber induced by too much sunshine and the boon of natural resources that have underwritten general prosperity until now.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 15, 2024 8:56 pm
Reply to  Arky

Heavens Arky, you “like” a “good guy” who believes that splattering a man’s brains all over the crowd is “doing a good job”?

I assume he’s hit you too many times in the head.
Give yourself an uppercut.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 6:29 pm

But but… he was a Democrat! And as Bruce points out, Democrats have always been evil communists of the Confederacy, and still are to this very day!!

It’s complicated, monty.

And very interesting history.

The biography of Jackson I have in my library. Recommended.

And I suspect you are verballing Bruce, but I’ll let him deal with that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:32 pm
Reply to  Roger

Am I a bad man for having fun with Monty?

Which I have been doing. He really is remarkably ignorant of history.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 6:41 pm

Not at all.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 6:34 pm
Reply to  Roger

Recommended with the caveat that you often learn most from those you disagree with. In fact, one wouldn’t learn anything if one stuck to agreeable books! Jon Meacham’s American Lion is another study of Jackson I want to look at.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 7:35 pm
Reply to  Roger

I don’t learn anything from mUntyfa.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 6:44 pm
Reply to  Roger

Roger, I have Kilmeade’s biography of Jackson. It’s good as well. On the Amazon recommendations at the bottom of your link.

Roger
Roger
July 15, 2024 6:51 pm
Reply to  calli

I had that on my wishlist at one time, calli. I still might pick it up if the price is right. I enjoyed Kilmeade’s book on Jefferson and the Tripoli pirates.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 7:35 pm
Reply to  Roger

Verballing is all the fat Fascist fool has. He is not smart enough to think for himself.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 15, 2024 6:31 pm

My boxing trainer, who is a good guy, doesn’t like Trump I found out today.
Let’s face it, most people get their impressions from the MSM, so their dislike of Trump has been germinated and fostered for years. They just aren’t sufficiently informed.

Last edited 7 months ago by Bungonia Bee
Helen
Helen
July 15, 2024 11:07 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Just like global warmening

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 6:32 pm

Doc Faustus:

My missing bit is how the dweeb found his way onto an unfamiliar roof top.

The ladder can be seen propped against the street side of the building. How did it get there? Even if it was collapsible, it’s too long for a normal vehicle. What sort of vehicle did he have?
How many of the Cat contributors believe Lone Gunman?
How many believe Three Letter Organisation?

I don’t know about you lot, but I’m wrestling with denying an Act of God.

Delta A
Delta A
July 15, 2024 7:14 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Vinnie, go back and read my theory, aka: trump Assassination bingo card. It’s all there, Mate.

PS: I named my new budgie Vinnie. Absolutely adore him!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:02 pm
Reply to  Delta A

Yep, I did that – gave you 9 upticks.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 15, 2024 6:36 pm

According to some sources, Americans have to be registered in order to vote. Que? then why the kerfuffle about ID? I mean, if you are registered to vote you already have ID when you go to the voting booth.
And if you are registered as Republican, in the privacy of the voting booth can you not vote for anyone, regardless?
Can registration be used as a smokescreen?

Last edited 7 months ago by Bungonia Bee
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 15, 2024 6:40 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 15, 2024 6:33 pm

Thanks Liz.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 15, 2024 6:48 pm

Maybe I need to take more into account that everyone isn’t as plugged into politics, don’t always know what we know or have the political junky experiences to put everything in context. 

“Pub test” results are in:
All day yesterday, all last night, & all day today the opinion of the patrons in my pub on the Trump assassination attempt are:

Nothing.

Not one person has commented. Almost certainly this is because none of them know about it.
We sometimes forget just how many people who are not only unplugged, they in fact follow zero news & current affairs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:54 pm

Presumably why Seven, Nine and Ten have been in the wars lately.
No one is watching.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 7:09 pm

LOL.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 6:51 pm

If it wasn’t for Monty, this place would be broke from no contributors.
At least he’s worth just for that alone…
🙂

Vicki
Vicki
July 15, 2024 6:58 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

I can’t believe he takes so much abuse & still contributes.

Chris
July 15, 2024 8:07 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Yep. got his own private ranch for practicing shooting fish in a barrel, and he aint gonna share.
Knew another like hime, years ago, on a gun debate forum. That one used to talk about ‘tossing the suitcases’, apparently after an old luggage advert where they threw suitcases into a gorilla cage and let nature take its course. Of course he was an actual military OHS colonel and LOVED when some innocent accused him on knowing nothing of weapons or real life or whatever.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:12 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Muntsac is a gimp.
When he is let out for air, this is where he “comes”.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 6:52 pm

Truth Social stock DJT is up 70% in pre-market.

Tom
Tom
July 15, 2024 6:53 pm

Our troll likes to imagine himself as a thought leader in the leftwing ruling class, but he’s just a useful online idiot parroting the commands of the high priests.
 
Leftards portray themselves as freedom-fighting insurgents, but in Australia they are, in fact, wealthy property-owning, Green-voting fat cats who control all of our institutions, from government to business to education.
 
Our troll is increasingly desperate as the Trump Republicans are now in the box seat to depose Obama’s puppet president in November — even though the DNC will still control the federal government and the bureaucracy in perpetuity by tribal osmosis.
 
I thank the troll for providing up-to-date daily information on what the enemies of Australian families, the middle class and wider society are thinking.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 6:57 pm
Reply to  Tom

If he’s a thought leader for the leftwing ruling class it pretty much proves Dunning-Kruger. No wonder we as a nation are in such deep excrement.

Bluey
Bluey
July 15, 2024 7:07 pm
Reply to  Tom

Well said.

John H.
John H.
July 15, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  Tom

Our troll likes to imagine himself as a thought leader in the leftwing ruling class, but he’s just a useful online idiot parroting the commands of the high priests.

I doubt it. Monty doesn’t pretend to be a thought leader and he is good at pressing buttons. I don’t know why he bothers, AFAIK there are no left wingers here.

Leftards portray themselves as freedom-fighting insurgents, but in Australia they are, in fact, wealthy property-owning, Green-voting fat cats who control all of our institutions, from government to business to education.

If they control so much they can’t be idiots. In some cognitive abilities left wingers are very intelligent. As Matt Canavan commented on Skynews, they are good at organizing political movements. That’s half the battle. Not a single conservative party hasn’t made any significant inroads. There are enough people here to start such a party but the average age is too high. New movements need younger age groups. Meanwhile, the Greens and Teals romped in, even the Marijuana Party out poled some start up conservative parties

I thank the troll for providing up-to-date daily information on what the enemies of Australian families, the middle class and wider society are thinking.

You stated they are wealthy-property owning … . The tax cuts, the CGT and negative gearing benefits have not been repealed. They are not enemies of themselves.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 6:55 pm

Trump has a very elegant wedge at his disposal …

“I will carefully note the Secret Service protection I am afforded during this campaign. If elected I will take that as the benchmark protection to be provided to former Presidents”.

What can they say?

John Brumble
John Brumble
July 15, 2024 10:50 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Why would they care? There hasn’t been any serious attempt on a leftist president since the 60s.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 15, 2024 6:56 pm

The Officer Tatum ran a segment on women in the Secret Service.
He pulled up images of security for Elon Musk, Zuckerberg and Jay Zee and Beyonce. Not one woman on bodyguard duty.
Yet the female head of SS wants 30% female by 2030.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 7:00 pm

If elected I will take that as the benchmark protection to be provided to former Presidents

Aaaahahahaaa.

Oh yes.

MatrixTransform
July 15, 2024 7:08 pm

More details about Crooks, including that he was definitely a conservative.

pretty sure the evidence points to him being a paid up member of the Retard Party

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 7:21 pm

Paywallian useful idiot, Cameron Stewart, given the byline for “it’s a complete mystery” story. Ruh roh, they need Scooby Doo.

MatrixTransform
July 15, 2024 7:20 pm

and congrats mUnty on becoming the new Numbers Bob

if anybody could seriously challenge Numbers with their depth sheer idiocy and power of dogmatic gibber

only you could

do a victory lap

you’ve earned it

… retard

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 7:23 pm

Definite A for effort today.

Unlike Econs 101.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 7:38 pm

Numbers Bob is over on Michael Smith these days. He was had for breakfast there, back in 2014, but it’s my considered opinion the old boy is becoming senile.

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 7:25 pm

Look on the bright side, everyone.

While monty’s here he’s not out watching kids play sport.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 7:40 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Remember Numbers, with the shaving mirror in his office, watching the delinquents sitting in a corner?

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:21 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Yes, whilst he’s here, the bag of boiled lollies is simply stuck in his undies, not in his sticky fingers at the park.

MatrixTransform
July 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Reply to  132andBush

he’s not creepy uncle … checking their pronouns is normal and healthy

Bill P
Bill P
July 15, 2024 7:40 pm

Monty is having one of the all time great trouser experiences* over the Trump assassination attempt.
*h/t Jeremy Clarkson

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 7:41 pm

Is it just me, or did m0nster sound a bit whiny-desparate today?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 8:13 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

He’s in the getting bussed to the RSL with selected mummy bloggers phase of R-G-R. No wonder he’s having difficulties.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 15, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Only today?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Certainly indicating epic butthurt.
Haven’t seen him suffering this badly before.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 7:42 pm

Former SBS newsreader Mary Kostakidis ‘spread anti-Semitic hate’Stephen Rice
20 minutes ago

Australia’s racial vilification laws will be put to the test in a complaint against former SBS newsreader Mary Kostakidis, who is facing allegations she posted anti-Semitic hate speech on social media to her 30,000 followers, including reposting a video of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in which he said there was no place for Jews in Israel.
The complaint, filed with the Australian Human Rights Commission, claimed Ms Kostakidis engaged in a “campaign of vilification” that has caused harm to members of Jewish and Israeli communities in Australia.
On Monday, she denied ever inciting hatred against Jewish people, saying the legal action was an attempt to silence her and an attack on free speech.
Zionist Federation of Australia chief executive Alon Cassuto, a dual Australian-Israeli citizen, alleged Ms Kostakidis had breached section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, which makes it unlawful to publicly offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate a person or group on the basis of race, colour or national or ethnic origin.
Law firm Arnold Bloch Liebler said in a letter to Ms Kostakidis that she had engaged in “dishonest descriptions” of the events of October 7, including a post three days later suggesting Israel knowingly allowed the Hamas attack to occur to justify a retaliatory war; and she had denied ­Israeli women were raped in the attack.
“As the face of SBS for many years, you were entrusted by Australians nationwide as a symbol of truth and integrity,” the letter said. “Since 7 October, you have regrettably misused your considerable profile to spread hateful and antiSemitic rhetoric.”
The letter notes Ms Kostakidis reposted a video of former weapons inspector Scott Ritter in which he supports Hamas and says: “Do I condemn Hamas? Hell no!”
Ms Kostakidis had also reposted tweets claiming pedophile Jeffery Epstein was an agent of Israel who “ran a honeypot for Mossad” and in June shared a theory that Israel was responsible for the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy, asking “Why has Israel been avoided when discussing the Kennedy assassinations?”
The letter cites the Nasrallah video as an “unlawful’ post under section 18C, saying the Hezbollah leader advocated “the ethnic cleansing of Jewish Israelis in Israel” and that the posts were “threatening, offensive, insulting and intimidating to those of Jewish or Israeli national or ethnic origin”.
Arnold Bloch Liebler gave Ms Kostakidis until last Friday to agree to publish an apology and undertake not to repeat the comments but filed the complaint with the Human Rights Commission on Monday after she failed to comply.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:24 pm

I sincerely hope she ends up living in one of those “homeless tent beds”, that are constantly begging for funds on SBS.

Tom
Tom
July 15, 2024 8:00 pm

For Cats with pay TV, exclusive interview with Ruperdink Mudrock starting now on Sky News.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:24 pm
Reply to  Tom

meh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 8:02 pm

Daily Telegraph
ANALYSIS SHOWS THREE WEAPONS FIREDAccording to CNN, forensic analysis suggests as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally. The FBI has said the shooter acted alone.
CNN is reporting that the first three shots were “consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final acoustic impulse was emitted by a possible weapon C”.
The outlet done reports the audio analysis was done by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 8:15 pm

This is going to be bigger than Area 51.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 15, 2024 8:03 pm

Daily Telegraph:

The US Secret Service chief faces calls to resign, after being accused of being more focused on “diversity, equity and inclusion” policies than security.

Director Kimberley Cheatle, who was once tasked with protecting Joe Biden, has refused to comment on the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, with her tenure now under review.

Director Cheatle first joined the US Secret Service in 1995 and was a member of the then Vice President Joe Biden’s protective detail during President Barack Obama’s administration.

After Trump was elected president, Ms Cheatle became the agency’s deputy assistant director for training and later assistant director for protective operations.

She retired in 2019 and worked as PepsiCo senior director of global security for a brief period and in 2021 was awarded a Presidential Rank Award for previous exceptional government service

But such was his trust in her “Judgement and counsel”, President Biden brought her back to the Secret Service in 2022, making her only the second woman in history to ever lead the agency.

It was at a time the agency was facing heavy criticism for the security failure over the January 2021 attack on the US Capitol.

Now critics say since her appointment in September 2022, she has been more focused on diversity policies – including having 30 per cent women in the agency by 2030 – than security.

They have latched onto an interview given last year where she said she was focused on attracting more diversity into her ranks, particularly women.

Director Cheatle now refuses to comment as does anyone from her agency and many including chairman of Congress’ homeland security committee Mark E. Green is demanding answers.

“The seriousness of this security failure and chilling moment in our nation’s history cannot be understated,” the congressman wrote.

He said there were serious questions about how the shooter was able to access a rooftop “within range and direct line of sight” of where Mr Trump was speaking.

The Secret Service described claims there had been extra resourcing calls ahead of the Pennsylvania shooting incident as “absolutely false”.

“The former President, and the current President, are commonly subject to threats,”

Secret Service communications chief Anthony Guglielmi said in a written statement.

“The US Secret Service takes threats seriously, and it takes actions based on those threats as warranted. The US Secret Service is constantly evaluating the very dynamic threat environment and responding to it in the fulfilment of its responsibilities.”

In its press conference ahead of the Republican National Conference which runs for the next four days, US Secret Service co-ordinator for the event Audrey Gibson-Cicchino said the team was “fully prepared”.

She dodged questions on the Trump attack and said a comprehensive security plan that had already been 18 months in the making would be unchanged.

When asked if Mr Trump, his family or anyone attending the convention could have confidence they would be safe, Ms Gibson-Cicchino said she was confident in her security plans and the Secret Service had all the resources it needed.

“This event has been designated a special national security event which is the highest level of security for an event that can be designated by the government …,” she said.

Former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker said the assassination attempt exposed failures.

“It was a total security breakdown from start to finish,” Mr Swecker told the New York Post.

Richard Painter, a White House official under George W. Bush and now a law professor at the University of Minnesota, called for “a detailed investigation into this egregious security failure.”

“If there is a rooftop within rifle range of a president or a presidential candidate, it’s the Secret Service that should be on that rooftop. Have they ever heard of the Texas Book Depository?” he said, referring to the building from where Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President John F. Kennedy used a long-range rifle in 1963.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:18 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

She dodged questions on the Trump attack and said a comprehensive security plan that had already been 18 months in the making would be unchanged.

So a plan that failed once has been deemed to be not in need of adjustment.
In other words, the result was what she wanted – an assassination attempt that for the Grace of God – failed.
Sack her now, you bastards. Sack her with all the gravity that can be mustered.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 8:19 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

One of my maths teachers was known as DADFA – Deputy Assistant Director of Fvck All.

Bruce
Bruce
July 16, 2024 6:21 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Oswald allegedly used a short carbine with a dodgy optic on an offset mount in an obsolete military cartridge. Nothing “classically “long-range” about it.

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 8:09 pm

Daily Telegraph

ANALYSIS SHOWS THREE WEAPONS FIREDAccording to CNN, forensic analysis suggests as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally.

A report on one of the sites I’ve looked at says it was a “finishing shot” into the shooter. In other words they had detected some movement.

A bit like the order given to Apache gunners in Iraq and Afghanistan, shoot until limb separation is observed.

Bruce
Bruce
July 16, 2024 6:24 am
Reply to  132andBush

Like modern “yank-busting” doctrine:

“Shoot until it changes shape or bursts into flame”.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Has anyone heard this before?
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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:23 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

It looks to me like the kneeling officer was doing the spotting, which means the prone officer is the one with the sights on the assassin. The post is written by someone called ‘Redbeard’ @ Barbarossa 2.
These facts don’t seem to mesh particularly well.
Therefore, scepticism is warranted.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

4Chan? Umm … we’ll get back to you.

Bruce in WA
July 15, 2024 10:02 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

As my daughter is wont to say: “Seriously? Yeah, nah!”

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:18 pm

There is a very good article at Red State about using women in the Secret Service. They CAN play an excellent role, just not as flak jackets.

https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2024/07/14/about-those-female-secret-service-agents-protecting-trump-n2176834

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:18 pm

BobtheBoozer
 July 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Has anyone heard this before?

Fake noos, Betty.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:27 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Yes. You might like to read my examination of the article.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:28 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I would be inclined to believe it, if it hadn’t stated “famous”, photo.
Photo, would have been enough.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:19 pm

JC
 July 15, 2024 6:52 pm

Truth Social stock DJT is up 70% in pre-market.

Are we tired of winning, folks?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 8:30 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Been losing the war since about the late 60s. A few green shoots. Europes long drift left appears to have reversed. Lot of ground to recover.

calli
calli
July 15, 2024 8:29 pm

BobtheBoozer

 July 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Has anyone heard this before?

It’s mischief. Pathetic stuff.

Watching Rupert Murdoch interview. An excellent trip down memory lane, and some interesting insights and opinions. Particularly on Taiwan and the US.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:49 pm
Reply to  calli

Calli:
I spent some time trying to chase down the claim, then analysed the photo. Anything coming from a site that calls itself Barbarossa 2 – obviously a site to do with Operation Barbarossa, and White Protection League isn’t what one would call neutral.
So I added an addendum to the site BobtheBoozer July 15, 2024 8:23 pm
Having never been to the site previously, I’d point out that if you do go there you’ll never get that time back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:30 pm

“If there is a rooftop within rifle range of a president or a presidential candidate, it’s the Secret Service that should be on that rooftop. Have they ever heard of the Texas Book Depository?” he said, referring to the building from where Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President John F. Kennedy used a long-range rifle in 1963.

In this case the key part of that paragraph is the definite article … “a”, is in “a rooftop”.
One.
As I said the other day, this wasn’t a motorcade in a convertible through highrise residential blocks with a gazillion possible concealed shooting spots.
There was one single rooftop to cover, which was the only possible elevated shooting spot within cooee of the stage.

Cassie of Sydney
July 15, 2024 8:32 pm

I am a Zionist, I come from a proud Zionist family. Apparently, because I am a Zionist I am now a Satanist and my family are Satanists.

I should laugh but the truth is, the reality is, that none of this is funny. And let me tell you why, because whilst they use the word…”Zionist”, they mean ‘Jew”.

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Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:35 pm

Cassie, paraphrasing Spartacus,
I am a Zionist.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:37 pm

Me too!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 15, 2024 9:04 pm

It’s possible to be a Zionist without a religious bone in your body.

Ask me how.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 15, 2024 8:34 pm

in the famous photo

Less than 24 hours old. Yeah righto.

Hardly the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima.

I came here to inform the public

‘I came here to commit Arkancide’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 8:36 pm

There is a very good article at Red State about using women in the Secret Service. They CAN play an excellent role, just not as flak jackets.

Rest in Peace Dr. Ruth – Sex Therapist and Israeli Sniper (13 Jul, via Instapundit)

Ruth joined the Haganah, a paramilitary force formed to protect Jews in the territory and the forerunner of the Israeli Defense Force. Haganah took the lead in the rebellion against the English occupation forces and became the core of the military after Israeli independence in 1948. Ruth was only 4 feet, 6 inches tall and this is apparently the primary reason why she was trained as a sniper. …

She passed away at age 96 on July 12, 2024.

What a life! Vale.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:41 pm

Via Ace,

“Since the day the first Democrat vice-president (and co-founder of Tammany Hall), Aaron Burr, killed one of the Founding Fathers, they’ve always been this way. Consider: between 1865 and 1901, three presidents were assassinated, all Republicans. Three of the first six elected GOP presidents were murdered, by Southern sympathizers, anarchist leftists, and sexual weirdos. JFK, the lone Dem, was shot and killed by a Communist. In addition, there were attempts on the life of Teddy Roosevelt (shot), Ronald Reagan (shot), and Gerald Ford (shot at twice). Within just the past few years, senator Rand Paul was violently assaulted, congressman Steve Scalise was shot by a Trump-hating Bernie Bro, and a Leftist psycho traveled across the country to try and assassinate Justice Brett Kavanaugh. They never stop, they never sleep, they never quit.

To this day, Bernie Sanders and Dick Durbin have yet to answer for what they know and how they knew James Hodgkinson. Given the state of play, they likely will never have to answer for their involvement with the would be mass assassin who nearly mowed down a slew of GOP congressmen on a softball field.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:41 pm

However, applying the old “given a choice between a conspiracy and a f-ck up …” rule, there is one possible scenario which makes sense.
From failed Mafia cases in the 70’s and 80’s through to security failures leading up to 9/11, law enforcement in the US has been plagued by fragmentation.
Different Federal, State and local agencies all jealously guarding their patch and competing for kudos and funding.
I can envisage a situation where assignment of coverage might fall through the cracks.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 8:45 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Witness 9/11.

John Brumble
John Brumble
July 15, 2024 10:55 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I’d be inclined to believe that… if it wasn’t also the very first excuse given by the ABC.

And because federal agencies are famously control freaks.

Rosie
Rosie
July 15, 2024 8:51 pm
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 9:05 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Frank Sinatra 1974 Sydney Concert which became fairly physical as the media pushed the boundaries:

They keep chasing after us. We have to run all day long. They’re parasites who take everything and give nothing. And as for the broads who work for the press, they’re the hookers of the press. I might offer them a buck and a half, I’m not sure.

I’m not sure I don’t agree with the first part.

Morsie
Morsie
July 15, 2024 8:55 pm

ABC never give up.4 CORNERS running another Trump expose.Same old cast.They are really just talking to themselves.
How about an expose of the Biden Whitehouse?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 10:55 pm
Reply to  Morsie

Is Mrs Snowcone reprising her role? In tonight’s episode the part of Mrs Snowcone is played by Mrs Snowcone.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 8:58 pm

Mrs P just flicks the TeeVee to the ABC.
Fork Orners.
Whose head should pop up but Peter Strzok (he of the Wussia, Wussia, Wussia hoax)?
I refuse to watch, but I did see the promo on ABC News.
The dire warnings were:-
1. The assembling of “Far-Right” groups trying to get Trump elected (note that they will be called “shadowy” and “problematic”. A mirror push within the Dimocrats would be called “a grassroots, citizens campaign”).
2. Trump will dismantle the public sector and instal his own appointees. Which is precisely what Dr Jill, Obama, Bushes 1 & 2, Clinton etc did.
3. He will … get this … politicise the DoJ to go after his enemies. Now where would he get an idea like that?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 15, 2024 9:17 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

The ABC is doing a hit piece on Trump one day after a close as damn assassination attempt upon him?

That’s cute. Most networks would at least let the dust settle, a little.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 9:26 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I haven’t watched Four Corners for thirty years..

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 15, 2024 10:57 pm

Not long enough. Along with TDT started going off in the 70s.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 15, 2024 9:51 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

The 4 corners story contained the famous photo of bloodied trump surrounded by bodyguards. That means they were still editing this story on Sunday. And yet the story still went to air tonight containing one lady describing Trump’s statements as Hitler-style language.
The inflammatory language was still okay in the editor’s opinion. Mmm.

Also contained absolutely brazen lie that Trump had led an armed rebellion against the government. Interviewee didn’t say when but from context he was meaning the Jan 6 riots. Armed. With what, one fire extinguisher? Geez.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 9:20 pm

Interesting.

“‘You cannot, in broad daylight, get onto a rooftop within, what looked like a couple hundred yards if that [of the president]. You can’t get in that position with a gun when there’s a president speaking.
‘It cannot be done,’ Alexander insisted.
‘Like, you don’t even have to be a sniper – it’s the most f****** obvious thing, most obvious place in the whole world.
‘You could be like a seventh-grader – like “What do we have to do for security?” Well, let’s look at these rooftops that are almost within zeroing range of a rifle,’ he joked.
‘So something happened, and I’m not pointing fingers at anyone. It’s just too obvious that this guy had help getting there.
‘So whether it’s someone turned a blind eye or it was strategically planned, it had to be planned to a certain level, because events like that, security like that, it’s not a small thing – and that is an obvious place to be.’ ”

This is supposed to be from the veteran who holds the record for the longest sniper kill.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13634219/Veteran-longest-confirmed-sniper-kill-Trump-assassination-attempt.html

Gabor
Gabor
July 15, 2024 9:24 pm

BobtheBoozer
July 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Has anyone heard this before?

Can’t imagine anyone stupid enough to say that publicly, even if true or specially not then.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 9:24 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you horrible mob. I’m reading “Death of a Generation” – how the assassinations of Nho Dinh Diem, and John Kennedy, prolonged the Vietnam War. Interesting reading.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 9:30 pm

Enjoy Zulu.
Salutations to Mrs Zulu.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 15, 2024 9:36 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Thank you, Pogria. All the best to you, and yours.

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 9:28 pm

DJT was not saved by USSS brilliance. The fact that USSS allowed a rifle armed shooter within 150yds to a preplanned event is either malice or massive incompetence. Clearly there was adequate uncontrolled dead space for a shooter to move into position and take multiple aimed shots. Watching the newsreel one can hear how proximate the shooter is by the very short time lapse between the crack of arriving bullet (supersonic) to the boom of muzzle blast (sonic).”

This is from the guy who founded Blackwater.

https://amgreatness.com/2024/07/14/erik-prince-near-trump-assassination-caused-by-malice-or-massive-incompetence-by-u-s-secret-service/

Pogria
Pogria
July 15, 2024 9:34 pm

Jeebus,
does anyone here remember the stupid bint, Emma Hussar?

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/07/reminder-emma-hussar-is-still-not-quite-right.html

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 7:18 am
Reply to  Pogria

The comments are rather good. Describes mutley to a tee. “They only believe what they are told to believe”, ” the upside is you can piss on them and call it rain”.

Arky
July 15, 2024 10:00 pm

I can’t see this new era of touchy feelie united bipartisan condemnation of hurtie speech lasting more than the day after tomorrow.
They all truly hate the shit of each other now.
The first Trump/ Clinton debate of 2016 they shook hands at the start and the finish. They were at this point still content to do the fake polite thing that politicians have done for time immemorial and allow their paid stooges to do the really nasty stuff.
By the time of the second debate Trump’s team was lining up all of Bill’s alleged victims to greet the Clintons and get a reaction.
Hilliary was still pretending to be all sweetness and nice with “Donald this, and Donald that” but the micro expressions on her face told the real story.
Nancy Pelosi tore up Trump’s speech at the state of the union with a demonstrable utter contempt, and Trump responded a couple of years later by mocking the literal hammering Pelosi’s husband’s skull received “What the hell was all that about”? He asked at the rally.
Trump is a master and a genius, and he ain’t innocent in all this. He has deliberately and for years pursued a campaign to out these fakes, liars and frauds for what they are.
Only Trump could conceive a strategy to return as his party’s candidate after losing the Presidency, defying years of tradition that saw one term presidents slink off into semi- obscurity.
The man is a one in a thousand year phenomenon.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 10:04 pm

The place where the Trump rally took place (Butler) is a town of 9,000 with a sworn Police force of 16.
Butler itself is geographically tiny, so the location might have been within the broader Morris County. I cannot find details on county police or sheriff’s office numbers. There could have been upwards of five separate agencies policing the site.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 15, 2024 10:05 pm

Improvised stand-up right after Trump Shot – tyler fischer

It’s a pretty funny Trump impersonation!

cohenite
July 15, 2024 10:25 pm

Fischer is very good; here is 8 minutes of him on Gutfeld:

Tyler Fischer on Gutfeld, Tyrus, Kat Timpf, Trump, Bill Burr (youtube.com)

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 15, 2024 10:25 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 15, 2024 10:33 pm

Rosie
 July 15, 2024 8:51 pm

Awesome especially the very end.

That was a ripper slam-dunk.
Using there own DEI bullshit against them:-
“It doesn’t matter what you think your question meant. All that matters is how I perceive that question.”
Brilliant.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 10:37 pm

While we are all celebrating Trump’s survival—despite the fact that two people are still in critical condition and one died—and this will help propel him to the Oval Office. I’m old enough to recall Gerald Ford who became president after Nixon resigned over Watergate, and Ford assumed the presidency. I remembered something about Ford, and it made me think there was some sort of association with Charles Manson. I also remembered that despite two attempts on his life, he lost the election to Carter.I checked it out – see below. It’s important to remember that last bit (that he lost).

GERALD FORD, the 38th president

Ford faced two assassination attempts within weeks in 1975 and was not hurt in either incident.

In the first attempt, Ford was on his way to a meeting with California’s governor in Sacramento when Charles Manson disciple Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme pushed through a crowd on the street, drew a semi-automatic pistol and pointed it at Ford. The gun wasn’t fired.

Fromme was sentenced to prison and released in 2009.

It was 17 days later when another woman, Sara Jane Moore, confronted Ford outside a hotel in San Francisco. Moore fired one shot and missed. A bystander grabbed her arm as a second shot was attempted.

Moore was sent to prison and released in 2007.

Also keep in mind Ford was threatened freaking twice over a span of two weeks, which suggests there are more than one loon skulking about.

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Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 10:44 pm

An expert’s view

@catturd2

Wow.

Indolent
Indolent
July 15, 2024 10:47 pm
Zippster
Zippster
July 15, 2024 10:49 pm
JC
JC
July 15, 2024 10:55 pm

Sancho Panzer

July 15, 2024 10:04 pm

The place where the Trump rally took place (Butler) is a town of 9,000 with a sworn Police force of 16.

Butler itself is geographically tiny, so the location might have been within the broader Morris County. I cannot find details on county police or sheriff’s office numbers. There could have been upwards of five separate agencies policing the site.

Our close friend is a councilman for the local government in Southampton, NY. They have a police department funded by the town. It costs the town around US$16 million. I can’t recall the total department head count, but I recall he said there are around 12 detectives on the payroll who basically do nothing, earning $300,000 a year in base salary only (there’s benefits). My pal reckons the last time there was a murder was about 10 to 15 years ago. The chief is a lazy fat fck earning 700K. Local cops in these towns aren’t MIT grads.

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 11:06 pm

Let’s just summarize this. Rasmussen Report, on Twitter, is saying the Secret Service schleps watching over Trump were mostly temporary assignments. Don’t forget this is high summer and high vacation season in the US, which could go some way to explaining the temp assignments. You then have a small police department in Buttfck Pennsylvania, assisting the temps.

What could possibly go wrong?

132andBush
132andBush
July 15, 2024 11:21 pm

You then have a small police department in Buttfck Pennsylvania, assisting the temps.

That’s a recurring comment I’ve come across today as well.

Basically a force not up to or used to dealing with an intense operation such as this, probably used to dealing with a low crime area, called upon to cover holes in an understaffed SS detail. Cracks everywhere.

The Rats knew shit was likely to happen if the Secret Service detail was kept at a minimum.
And another thing, does the corpse have a detail which is 1/3 filled by smallish women?

JC
JC
July 15, 2024 11:31 pm

Bush

I recall that Clinton was always in town collecting cash (donations) when I was living in NY. It was hell because the roads were sealed for several blocks, and the main avenue was also sealed. I’d walk home, as there was no use taking a cab. It was also spooky and really unnerving because of the countless cops and plain clothes dudes with serious looking weaponry. It actually felt like if you stuck your hand in your pocket and looked iffy, they’d shoot and ask questions later.

JC
JC
July 16, 2024 12:02 am

Jeez Loiusa.

Trump Classified Docs Case Dismissed, Judge Finds Special Counsel Appointment Unconstitutional

Judge Eileen Cannon has dismissed Donald Trump’s classified documents case, ruling that the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith was unconstitutional.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 7:03 am
Reply to  JC

One corrupt NY judge delays sentencing, now another judge tosses the classified docs case.

Do I sense a change in the wind?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 16, 2024 1:21 am

Thanks to all for the kind words regarding the passing of my cat.

I truly appreciate it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 16, 2024 1:27 am

Mark Dice:

More Details Emerge, And More Questions Arise ( Trump )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6U0J6sn4qQ

KevinM
KevinM
July 16, 2024 1:48 am

Mark Steyn, worth a few minutes.

KevinM
KevinM
July 16, 2024 1:52 am

Interesting factoid, although I doubt the claim that bees never sleep.

———–
Old bees don’t return to the hive in the evening?

They spend the night on flowers, and if they have the chance to see another sunrise, they resume their activity by bringing pollen or nectar to the colony. They do this sensing that the end is near. No bee waits to die in the hive so as not to burden the others.

Bees have cold blood like all insects, yet at the colony level, they are a warm mega-organism.
There are bees that bring pollen and bees that bring nectar, never will a pollen-collecting bee change its task to bring nectar and vice versa.

Although dandelions are yellow, their pollen collected by bees turns orange in the mixing urn with nectar. The record for keeping a bee colony alive during winter was 356 days without them going out for cleansing flights.

Bees can be useful to humans even after they have died, as they are used in the form of poultices to treat joint pain.
Bees never sleep.
Thank you, little bees!!!

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johanna
johanna
July 16, 2024 6:28 am
Reply to  KevinM

I have a bee-attracting plant outside my door, and often find dead bees nearby.

There may be something in it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 16, 2024 2:34 am

Agree or disagree, like or dislike Crowder?, the opening 25 minutes of this clip have been spot on. Will watch the rest tomorrow.

—-

Steven Crowder:

One shot changed everything, but we won’t back down..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_WYGG5kksM

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 4:00 am
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Beertruk
July 16, 2024 4:47 am

Tim Blair in today’s Tele:

EVEN SHOT, TRUMP IS WAY AHEAD OF HIS RIVALS

TIM BLAIR
16 Jul 2024
 
First up, let’s hear it for Donald Trump.

Accelerated news cycles really don’t allow for proper consideration of such moments, but the former and possibly future US president’s display of strength on the weekend deserves extended appreciation.

Trump copped a bullet through the ear during a rifle attack that killed one of his supporters and critically wounded two others – yet he had the extraordinary presence of mind to rise up, pump the air with his fist and call on his fans to fight.

He then set off for New Jersey in his private jet and subsequently arrived the next day in Milwaukee for a four-day Republican National Convention. Trump barely slowed down. “I cannot allow a ‘shooter,’ or potential assassin, to force change to scheduling, or anything else,” he announced online.

Compare Trump’s resilience to the weakness of his rivals. President Joe Biden routinely needs a nap to recover from waking up.

By his own account, the perpetually disoriented 81-year-old was still suffering from jet lag during his disastrous debate performance – despite returning from abroad nearly two weeks earlier. Lunar astronauts have quicker rebounds.

Effort-wise, Biden’s potential replacements aren’t much better.

California Governor Gavin Newsom couldn’t even be bothered obeying his own state’s Covid lockdown directives – and he didn’t worry much about hiding it, getting busted in 2020 at a posh restaurant while Californian commoners remained at home, waiting for inevitable criminal invasions.

In 2021, Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg posted an image of himself and his husband posing with their newborn twins.

The pair were in a hospital bed. This seemed slightly curious, what with both of them being male and the twins being born to a surrogate.

It’s entirely possible that those Democrat non-birthers spent more time in hospital than did a postshooting Donald Trump.

During the early days of the Biden administration, Vice President Kamala Harris was put in charge of repairing her nation’s porous borders. She quickly discovered that this was an actual job that involved work.

So Harris bailed, preferring to offer peculiar musings on the nature of chronology. “The significance of the passage of time, right?” Harris told an audience in 2022. “The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time.”
 
Driving home her point, and perhaps also indicating the availability of hallucinogens at that particular event, Harris concluded: “There is such great significance to the passage of time.“

There sure is.

Thirteen years ago, an armed lunatic killed six people and terribly injured Democrat politician Gabby Giffords. New York Times staffer Paul Krugman blamed “eliminationist rhetoric” for the attack.

“There isn’t any place for eliminationist rhetoric, for suggestions that those on the other side of a debate must be removed from that debate by whatever means necessary,” Krugman railed.

“And it’s the saturation of our political discourse – and especially our airwaves – with eliminationist rhetoric that lies behind the rising tide of violence.

“Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretence of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right.”

Despite Krugman’s characteristic bluster, it’s difficult to estimate the effect of eliminationist talk on various unbalanced individuals amid every other potential form of influence.

It is very easy, however, to see that eliminationism has become the left’s preferred Trump-era talking tactic. Here’s Joe Biden just last month: “Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. That is not hyperbole. He’s a threat to our freedom. He’s a threat to our democracy. He is literally a threat to the America that we stand for.”

Going by Biden’s words, Trump isn’t just someone who should be voted down. Being such a literal threat, according to old Joe, it seems he needs to be taken out.

“Trump will destroy democracy,” Biden added, pouring on the elimination juice. “I will defend it.”

And then that deadly shooting happened, and Biden abruptly changed tune. Americans need “to lower the temperature in our politics and to remember, while we may disagree, we are not enemies,” Biden said yesterday.

“The political rhetoric in this country has gotten very heated. It’s time to cool it down.”

Biden’s soothing tone was widely applauded. But here’s another thing about accelerated news cycles. They erase memories.

Few recall that Biden said exactly the same things in his 2020 election victory speech.

“It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again and to make progress,” Biden declared. “We have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.”

And then he did. Too bad he can’t remember it.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 6:07 am

Trump’s picked Senator Vance. A very good choice.

Now to Tuesday, 5 November 2024.

Bring it on.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 6:14 am

Judge Aileen Cannon on Monday dismissed Jack Smith’s classified documents case based on unlawful appointment and funding of the special counsel.

Jack Smith indicted Trump on 37 federal counts in Miami in June 2023 for lawfully storing presidential records at his Mar-a-Lago estate which was protected by Secret Service agents.

Another scalp to the Presidential belt.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 7:20 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Change is blowin’ in the wind.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 6:40 am

When I was talking about the local police forces, it wasn’t just lack of numbers. It was a lack of co-ordination between agencies about who was doing what, and probably a lack of expertise.

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2024 7:03 am

She apparently wasn’t burdened by mortgages or children or pets. And yet …

The woman, whose identity has been suppressed by the court, gave evidence on Monday, and described how Mr Geason’s behaviour would change when he drank white wine.

“When he drank too much white wine he could become quite verbally nasty,” she told the court.
“It was like a character change. He would just become very hateful and spiteful towards me.

“Sometimes he would just call me ‘slut’ time and time and time again for no reason at all.”

The woman told the court that he used this insult regularly, and on one occasion she was left crying on a park bench while he continued to yell at her.
She told the court that she was allegedly subjected to verbal abuse by Mr Geason “maybe 20 or 30 times”.

And she kept coming back for more.

Geason is a Tasmanian Supreme Court judge.

I’m not excusing what he did, if it’s true. But by her own testimony, she abetted his behaviour by letting him get away with it dozens of times.

One of my favourite Golden Era crime writers, Gladys Mitchell, had a female psychoanalyst as her lead detective. Dame Beatrice once said:

‘Sadist plus masochist equals happy marriage.’

Something the burgeoning DV bureaucracy and moral entrepreneurs would never consider. There’s a narrative to protect.

132andBush
132andBush
July 16, 2024 7:11 am

Democrats have labelled Mr Vance as extreme.

But of course.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 7:42 am
Reply to  132andBush

Does this mean he doesn’t put up with leftist bullshiite?

Beertruk
July 16, 2024 7:11 am

Ooh dear…meanwhile in other news looks like Grace Tame’s 15 minutes of fame are over.
The Paywallion:

Margin Call

Grace Tame set to step down at charity
Grace Tame will step down as the CEO of her charitable foundation amid a donor backlash over its questionable governance and a half-hearted leadership style that left a scattered strategy and produced few tangible results for sexual abuse survivors.

Grace Tame Foundation director Michael Salter has been making it known around town that Tame will soon cease in the position and recruitment efforts will begin to identify a successor.

Margin Call understands a job listing will be published soon.

Tame’s inexperience was evident to anyone who dealt with the foundation, its dysfunction well-known in philanthropic circles. Largely a side project between a book deal and speaking gigs, it overflowed with donor funding but largely duplicated the work of established peers.

Within two years it had seemingly run out of goals to pursue. Piles of money sat on its books and it had already achieved modest goals in reforming sexual assault legislation around the country. But the board, flush with cash and under pressure to spend it in meaningful ways, took an ill-advised turn and began funding counselling services and legal fees for sexual abuse survivors, cannibalising existing services and drastically diverging from the foundation’s original ­purpose.

Donors were never told their money would be used in this way – on lawyers and counselling – and we know some benefactors were left furious about the lack of transparency.

More than half of the donated funds for FY23 – about $170,000 – were used to pay for counselling and legal costs, creating manifold problems in the ­process.

This column would go on to reveal that every dollar spent on legal services ($107,000) had been channelled into Marque Lawyers, whose managing director, Michael Bradley, sits on the Grace Tame Foundation board.

A perceived conflict of interest, this ought to have ended Bradley’s role as a director or seen his firm removed from the panel of legal providers.

We checked, however, and he’s still on the board, and our attempts to reach him were un­successful.

The foundation didn’t respond when asked about these developments with Tame.

What never seemed to occur to Tame, or the foundation ’s leadership, is that funding survivors on a discretionary basis, in secret, would advantage a tiny group of people fortunate enough to be aware of the money.

Never mind the absolute lack of transparency around the decision-making – those who truly needed it wouldn’t even know it’s available.

All of which makes for a mess of an organisation which lost its way and is in desperate need of a reboot.

It’s a shame, really. With so much money at her disposal, far more than most volunteer organisations would typically receive, Grace Tame could have achieved something genuinely worthwhile in the survivor space.

Instead, her foundation wasted time, money, potentially the goodwill of donors, and it has probably diverted resources from organisations with clearer purposes.

Something for Tame’s successor to consider closely. Whoever takes over has the benefit of starting from an extremely low bar.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 8:48 am
Reply to  Beertruk

We ran into the same situation with the *** when we sued for the **** abuse. Legal firms were mad keen to get in on the planning and made a nice little packet out of it.

billie
billie
July 16, 2024 9:49 am
Reply to  Beertruk

As they say, Who benefits?

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 16, 2024 7:12 am

Meanwhile, in Milwaukee MSNBC gets a touch up.

bons
bons
July 16, 2024 8:41 am
Reply to  lotocoti

They are getting better and better at batting away these idiots. Poilievre showed the way – never respond to gotchas, display utter contempt without enunciating it and, “excuse me I am busy”.

I love the petulant, hurty comments that they babble after being taken down.

Cats who have had the misfortune of attending ‘media training’ will note the difference between what we were ‘taught’ and the behaviour of modern interviewees. The old union rule of ‘never attack the interviewer’ is long gone – exposing their incompetence is a high impact strategy.

The SFL are showing signs of mastering the art.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 7:17 am

I’m really pleased that Trump chose JD Vance as his VP nominee. I wouldn’t be surprised if the shooting was the deciding factor, that Trump realised a good VP may be necessary sooner than the end of his term and that Vance can carry on with the work uninterrupted.

Should Trump win the election the next term is going to be far more significant than his first term and a commitment from the VP will be vital in winning in 2028 to continue with his legacy.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 7:19 am

Thanks Tom.

Spooner picked up on the resonance of that image. It’s been swirling around in my mind since I first saw it also.

Sometimes remarkable photo opportunities just happen. This was one of them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2024 10:05 am
Reply to  calli

Truly historical. Just like the World Trade Centre with half a jet hanging off it.

dopey
dopey
July 16, 2024 11:40 am
Reply to  calli

It was the obvious parallel but the US cartoonists didn’t seem to pick it up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 7:20 am

Trump has challenged another debate with The Sniffer.
Will Vance have to have a cackle-off with Kamal-toe?

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 7:23 am

“The shooter was a registered Republican ….”
The shooter was steeped in MSM Trump hatred for all of his pathetic youthful years. The media are the second row of evil supporting the modern democrats.
I’ll tell you what is worse: two RINOs cooperating as members of the crooked J6 Get Trump Committee.
Lives have been ruined, some have died in prison as a result of the crackdown on attendees that fateful day – which was every bit as faked as the 2020 election.
Watch for head explosions on the left as (i) J.D. Vance says he would do what Pence would not, and (ii) Judge Cannon fires Jack Smith.

132andBush
132andBush
July 16, 2024 7:29 am

Democrats have labelled Mr Vance as extreme.

We can be sure then that he holds the view that a human with a penis can not be called a woman.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 7:31 am

Sorry to hear about your cat, Steve. Always hard to lose a loved pet. I want another one of these, but the boss says No! Understandable. There can be only one GodEmperor per household.

Westies
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 7:47 am
Reply to  calli

We do put them on pedestals don’t we. They deserve to be.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 16, 2024 7:32 am

Failed Tory leadership candidate doesn’t understand why he’s a failed Tory leadership candidate.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 16, 2024 7:34 am

it wasn’t just lack of numbers. It was a lack of co-ordination between agencies about who was doing what, and probably a lack of expertise

Add to that a pile of jockeying between small-town law enforcement agencies as to who was doing what, with all of them demanding they play their own ‘critical’ role, and every bit of it driven by ego rather than demonstrated competence.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 7:42 am

I see that Boomer Derangement Syndrome (BDS) is alive and well at the kiddies News website. “Boomers indulge in selfish behaviour” is the sort of heading they love. Many of us grew up in fairly basic circumstances and are still quite careful about our expenditures. Mrs. B and I haven’t spent a cent on silly luxuries or even overseas travel (good luck to those who can) but have some excellent properties and useful cash to pass on to our kids. In the meantime we can pay all our bills and enjoy retirement.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 7:43 am

Resolve Poll:

Coalition receives primary vote boost in latest Resolve Strategic poll as majority of Australians say national outlook worsening (15 Jul)

Support for the federal Coalition has increased as the majority of Australians say the country is heading in the wrong direction.

Peter Dutton’s opposition increased its primary vote support from 36 to 38 per cent in the latest Resolve Strategic poll, while primary vote support for the Albanese government remained flat at 28 per cent – the lowest level it’s been since the Prime Minister took office. …

Of the 1603 eligible voters surveyed, 55 per cent said the national outlook was getting worse, while 29 per cent said it would stay the same and just 16 per cent said the national outlook was improving.

When asked to list the most important issue driving how they would vote, 53 per cent said it was the cost of living.

In terms of dealing with the persistent crisis, 31 per cent said they believed the Coalition would do a better job compared to just 24 per cent who said Labor.

I’m not entirely sure what they mean by “persistent crisis” but the punters don’t seem especially enthused by either of them.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 16, 2024 7:50 am

Why a “smart energy trial”, at this stage?
This stuff’s in the bag, surely? The science is settled, we got our Forever Energy, welcome to the sunlit uplands and all that?
Just roll it out, coast to coast. Well done, have an elephant stamp, but enough posing you clever clogs, it’s winter and I’d like to be able to put the heater on without checking my dividend statements.
So, go on, I’ve scanned past the small print and clicked the box, time for youse to get all Smart Energy with my household habits via remote control- what could possibly go wrong!

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 7:53 am

Mak, nobody in their right mind should have these devices fitted. I notice they are being rolled out in rural communities where more conservative people live, not the inner cities where the luvvies will bitch about how useless the things are and possibly erode the lefty vote.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 7:56 am

Compare Trump’s resilience to the weakness of his rivals. President Joe Biden routinely needs a nap to recover from waking up.

Beery, many thanks for posting Tim Blair.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 8:01 am

Democrats have labelled Mr Vance as extreme.

That announcement would be like a starter’s pistol for all the women about to come forward rape claims against him. Until the announcement they will have had no idea who had raped them.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 8:59 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

Every one that does will be another nail in the Democrat coffin. At some time the population will get fed up with this kind of warfare and start realising that they could be the next accused.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 8:11 am

I work among vocal far-left progressives, who all possess the rabid, frothing mental disease of TDS.

I think it was Sancho on Sunday who wrote a comment wondering just how quiet various workplaces across the West would be on Monday (yesterday).

Well, I can report that my workplace was unusually quiet yesterday. It was strange, odd, and bizarre just how shtum people were about the assassination attempt. Not a whisper or whimper about Trump, until about 12.30 p.m., and then the dam was broken when one of my colleagues, a male Guardian reading Teal voter but someone who, I’ve noticed, over the last few months is being slightly red-pilled about various issues, spoke up about the iconic picture of a bloodied Trump, surrounded by secret service men and women, his fist in the air, with the backdrop of Old Glory, yelling ‘fight, fight, fight’. My colleague commented about how he ‘didn’t like Trump’ (of course he’d say that) but that he found the scene of Trump, having survived the bullet, amazing.

The dam was broken and others started babbling, all saying how Trump was going to win the election prior to this but now the election is in the bag for him.. One young woman, someone I am pretty sure votes for the Nazi Greens, said….’oh no, how could anyone vote for him” to which I said “lots will vote for him, and I would vote for him if I could”. She went silent after that…and you know what? I felt free.

I think many dams were broken on Sunday, not just the big dam of TDS, but also dams of wokeness, of progressive bullshit, of years of lies, ridicule and smears. For far too long people on the right have remained quiet, shtum, scared in the face of progressive woke hyperbole and lies. Now, we all need to do a Trump, we need get up, find our shoes and speak up…….we need to ‘fight, fight, fight’.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 8:58 am

Now, we all need to do a Trump, we need get up, find our shoes and speak up…….we need to ‘fight, fight, fight’.

Inspirational words to live by.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 8:16 am

Sky News Daytime is still wondering about “the motive”. What can it possibly be? Some point at the awful language of Biden and others, but they aren’t looking in the mirror and seeing the media’s role in this, which is major. Morning Joe is temporarily suspended, but when will others like Joy Reid get taken off the air. The damage is done.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 16, 2024 8:23 am

New thoughts, the morning after the morning after tec-
The security complex around the Trumpster- from the FBI to SS to local police- is under question, rightly so, there will surely be rats in the ranks as Jesse Watters voiced.
But how many more will “quiet quit”? Especially at the lower ranks, ie police, security checkpoint guards- they will surely be thinking, holy cr*p things just got real, there are surely more jilted 20-y-o misfits who have been pushed or pulled into the range where they would be gunning for the ex President, it’s more than my pay grade to stand in their way, especially if I don’t have the protection of the inner circle, and that inner circle could well be working against the proper provision of our services?
And so they’d back off body searches, they’d take more sick days, they’d be mentally primed to duck for cover themselves instead of protecting and serving. They’d start to second-guess their own instincts and ignore their own training drills re intervention, and they’d be loath to draw any weapon for a noble act for fear that they would draw fire themselves- in this world and in the next.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 8:40 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

Not an unreasonable assumption either. Then there’ll be the others that see it as an accelerated journey to the higher levels as the unravelling of what actually happened and assumming Sniffy Joe doesn’t get another record number of votes at 4 am and Trump’s AG goes after the the people behind it. The younger ones are not so likely to have been corrupted. I’d only be taking new guys from strong Red States. None from Blue strongholds.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2024 8:32 am

Trump’s astonishing act of kindness for families of man killed and two others injured during Pennsylvania assassination attempt
Daily Mail. The Trump sponsored GoFundMe campaign has raised over four million dollars for the families of the men killed or wounded the other day.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 8:37 am

And just like that … Quick as a flash, the MSM is going after J.D. Vance.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 8:38 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 9:32 am
Reply to  Rosie

Rosie, the interesting thing will be the Popes response. What will he do? If he publicly disciplines the the Priest, he will open a can of worms he will not be able to control.

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2024 8:40 am

Someone above posted a cip of a speech by a former US Border Patrol chief. What struck me was when he told then President Trump that South American countries were refusing to take back illegals like MS 13 gangsters, Trump acted. He phoned up the Presidents or whoever was in charge and told them that unless they took their spawn back, all US aid would be cut off.

Two days later, planeloads of them were on their way home.

Diplomats revel in making things complicated – just imagine the many reasons why they would have told Trump it was a bad idea.

Sometimes you need to put an axe through a Gordian knot.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:07 am
Reply to  johanna

Or cut it with a sword.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 9:35 am
Reply to  johanna

Diplomats revel in making things complicated – just imagine the many reasons why they would have told Trump it was a bad idea.

One of the reasons the whole Diplomatic Caste is on my shit list – they keep forgetting that they are there for the home community, not the high life, and they’ll string along any crisis for as long as they can.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 8:41 am

Joe Hockey barely conceals some TDS. “He hates to lose” says Joe on Sky.
How about hating to lose the country you love?

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:07 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Wish Hockey had been as dedicated to winning.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 8:41 am

I guess the planned parenthood/democrat scaremongering is just about the revenue from surgical abortions
https://x.com/LilaGraceRose/status/1812938790748758512?t=JtcINGCkcRILVpBzyxnxTA&s=19

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 8:42 am

find our shoes

A little factoid in the maelstrom of reaction, fear and violence on that podium.

He didn’t want to be led away in stockinged feet.

This is not just about courage. It’s about presence of mind and preservation of dignity. Acting like a boss.

Another reason to argue with opponents strongly, concisely, with rationality.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 11:19 am
Reply to  calli

Compare with Julia G, one shoe off, hunched over, being almost carried away.

From a riot instigated by one of her staff

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Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 8:47 am

Andrew Fox deplores the J D Vance pick because he’s anti Israel.
Jake Shields going off because he’s pro Israel.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 8:49 am
Reply to  Rosie

Chooks with their head cut off comes to mind.

At least decapitated chooks had brains to begin with.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 8:48 am

I’m sure someone must have mentioned the fact in the space of less than 2 weeks we’ve seen a leader of Australia snivelling about someone attacking him when he wasn’t arround and a hope to be leader once again, being shot, then getting to his feet with his fist raised in defiance. Compare the pair, one has a giant sized pair, the other none to be seen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 8:48 am

Reports last night that the Dimocrats are conceding a likely Trump victory.
What will the effect of Saturday’s events have on voting patterns?
Will it swing already leaning voters? Probably not many.
Will it motivate otherwise ambivalent voters to get out and vote for Trump? In significant numbers I think.
What it does do is throw the Dimocrat campaign strategy into turmoil. They suspended campaign advertising over the weekend “out of respect”.
Bullshit.
It was because the entire campaign was based on “Orange Man literally Hitler must be stopped at any cost”, which is not going to play well now.
What have they got now?
Run on The Sniffer’s record?
Please.
Or attack Trump’s policies?
Which only draws attention to Dementia Joe’s dismal record.
The perennial problem for second term campaigns if they throw in something new is “Well, why haven’t you done it already?”
They’ve got nowhere to go.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 8:49 am

Meanwhile, in Milwaukee MSNBC gets a touch up.

MSNBC and NBC pulled Morning Joe this morning too – they could not be sure that Joe or Mika, or one of their guests, would not utter some inanity that would make the network look really bad.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 8:56 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

Now that is very interesting. While I was away, I “treated” myself to MSNBC so that I could understand how very bad it really was in this, an election year.

I was not disappointed.

Puff ads claiming the Truth and Non-Partisanship, delivering the news with Gravity and Robust Debate.

It was nothing of the sort. It was wall to wall anti-Trump, to the point of frothing idiocy.

Turned it off in the end. You can only inspect the padded cell for a limited time without bouncing off the walls yourself.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:11 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

At somebody in that corporation had some sense to prevent damage to themselves. The on-air talent are just talking apps with limited relevance.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 8:49 am

The Bungonia Bee

 July 16, 2024 7:42 am

I see that Boomer Derangement Syndrome (BDS) is alive and well at the kiddies News website. “Boomers indulge in selfish behaviour” is the sort of heading they love. Many of us grew up in fairly basic circumstances and are still quite careful about our expenditures. Mrs. B and I haven’t spent a cent on silly luxuries or even overseas travel (good luck to those who can) but have some excellent properties and useful cash to pass on to our kids. In the meantime we can pay all our bills and enjoy retirement.

When my father-in-law was nearing the end of his working life he collected 50 cent coins* with which to buy a a beer in a pub in every town he and my mother-in-law would visit once he retired. A few years later he became seriously ill and those plans were never to be fulfilled.

Reflecting on his father’s unrealised dreams my husband decided that we should travel while we were still young and healthy and so we did. We travelled with our kids and when they were too old and too cool to come with us we continued without them.

There will still be money and property for the kids to inherit though not as much as there would have been if we didn’t travel. They have something even more precious than property and that is memories of our travels together which they mention fondly every so often.

*When my father-in-law realised he wouldn’t be able to travel again he wanted to give the 50 cent coin collection to my husband who said let’s spend it on drinks together, and they did.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 8:49 am

Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neill, Monday:

‘Like a virus, populists are replicating at an exponential rate.’

She apparently hasn’t the gumption to ask “Why?”

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 9:04 am
Reply to  Roger

commie filth

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:14 am
Reply to  Roger

I thought she meant they were having babies at an exponential rate. Maybe they should do that too.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 8:51 am

Vance is pro-Israel. He has prayed at the Wall.

However, as important as USA support for Israel is, the most important thing is that Vance is pro-America. A strong America = a strong Israel = a strong West.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:15 am

Yet so few people seem to be able to comprehend that.

mem
mem
July 16, 2024 8:51 am

“Was reading comments on another site (*) whereby one commentator was saying that the left quickly repeat and take onboard whatever the party and media feed them, regardless of what they experience or see, when another commentator responded, “The thing about this is that you could piss on them, call it rain and they would believe you!” ‘Think I might hold that one for appropriate future use.
*https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/07/reminder-emma-hussar-is-still-not-quite-right.html#comments

Barry
Barry
July 16, 2024 8:52 am

They speak as if calling someone a populist is disparagement.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 8:54 am

D J Trump’s pick of JD Vance is good in the fact of injecting some youth into the high level of government. He is going to be 40 in 2 weeks. How about that. Junior Senator last year. Highly potential VP next year.

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 8:55 am

Jack Smith is in *SHAMBLES* after Judge Cannon ruled his Special Counsel appointment was ILLEGAL

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 8:56 am
Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 8:58 am

Guardian Essential poll: three-quarters of Australians believe MPs enter politics to serve own interests

Tone deaf Clare O’Neill” “Populism!”

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 9:01 am

I’m hoping DJ Trump gets Milley out of retirement, strips him of rank and retirement benefits and charges him with treason, which he has already admitted conspiring with v the chinese. He can spend his retirement enjoying holiday camp Leavenworth. Sniffy Joe can’t pardon him for something he hasn’t been charged with. Besides he’s only a useful idiot.

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 9:01 am

They speak as if calling someone a populist is disparagement.

Someone doing what the people want would seem to be what they are supposed to do.

The Dims seem more like a self-appointed elite class that deigns to rule the people because the people are too stupid to govern themselves. Hell, they are going to put that nefarious Trump in office if they aren’t stopped!

That there is also loads of money that comes their way is mere coincidence. It is after all what surely is due to such caring people.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 9:02 am
Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:02 am

Bungonia Bee

 July 16, 2024 8:16 am

Sky News Daytime is still wondering about “the motive”. What can it possibly be? Some point at the awful language of Biden and others, but they aren’t looking in the mirror and seeing the media’s role in this, which is major. Morning Joe is temporarily suspended, but when will others like Joy Reid get taken off the air. The damage is done.

The damage may have been done but the media still need to be stopped or changed so they don’t infect or damage a new generation coming up. How to do it without widespread censorship is the trick.

bons
bons
July 16, 2024 9:02 am

‘Slow on the uptake’ is my most notable characteristic, but even for me:

I have struggled twice through ‘Hillbillly Elegy’ without associating J D Vance with THE J D Vance.

Why read it twice. I can’t explain. At every second page you want to ditch it out of frustration at the dysfunctional, depressing characters who dominated his youth. Titillating it ain’t, unless you are a black depressive.

If THE J D Vance survived and thrived after that experience, he’ll do as VP.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:20 am
Reply to  bons

The wonder of that work is that he did survive and became a success in life. I think I read somewhere that he said in an interview that he wrote it to show you can rise up from anything.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 9:02 am

Re Ms Rose’s tweet that Rosie linked:

GOP’s Newly Adopted Platform Leaves Abortion to States (Newsmax, 15 Jul)

Delegates at the Republican National Convention (RNC) on Monday approved a new party platform that aligns with presumptive nominee Donald Trump’s political positions, including a shift in abortion policy.

The updated platform adopts a leave-it-to-the-states approach to abortion restrictions, moving away from the party’s long-standing support for national restrictions on abortion. 

That may be the general strategy to be pushed by Trump: everything possible be returned to local state authority. That might be an answer to the centralized deep state fascism, as well as being a way to reward states like Florida and Texas by removing stifling Federal regulations.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 11:28 am

Devolve, decentralise, diffuse power. That takes power from the central bureaucracy.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 16, 2024 9:02 am

A read to spot the usual suspects and behold the area of Australia they will scavenge.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/huge-finance-deal-and-off-take-landed-for-one-of-australias-biggest-four-hour-battery-projects/

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 9:26 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

$650M for four hours, used sometimes. Just as well the sun shines at night and the wind blows consistently. It doesn’t matter to the investors if its never used, they’ve already made their money. It’s only going to be charged at rock bottom prices and discharged at the highest prices.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:31 am
Reply to  Indolent

What a surprise? It’s a sarcastic Karen.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 11:30 am
Reply to  Crossie

The sleazebags are outing themselves for later discipline.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 9:09 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSqZ-L7KtI
At 0.26 seconds, behind the group of 4 poplars? lurks a ladder.
He didn’t need a boost from a second man, the height would have taken an acrobatic team to get him up there.
Who put the ladder there is the question to ask.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 9:28 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Who put the ladder there is the question to ask.

Is that a figure lurking on the grassy knoll?

(Sorry, couldn’t resist!)

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 9:35 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

I find it extremely strange that there is a ladder hidden behind some poplar trees

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 12:23 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Possibly put there overnight by the shooter?

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 9:10 am

“I’ve never seen so many young people having cardiac MRIs in my entire career. There are people who’ve had heart damage, myocarditis, they’ve had heart problems”

Professor Kerryn Phelps

Australians have been left in a state of shock after more leaked audio emerged from the censored 7News segment “After COVID,” which I wrote about here and here. This time, we have the full, alarming statements by former President of the Australian Medical Association, the largest professional body for doctors in Australia, Professor Kerryn Phelps, in response to host Michael Usher when he asked, “Is there anything to learn from people who’ve had side effects that both of you are describing in detail?”

In the recording, Phelps exposes the disturbing rise in mRNA vaccine side effects and the gross negligence by both the government and pharmaceutical companies in addressing these issues.

“I mean I’ve never seen so many young people having cardiac MRIs in my entire career. There are people who’ve had heart damage, myocarditis, they’ve had heart problems, gastrointestinal problems, dysautonomia.” Professor Kerryn Phelps

The conversation, hosted by Michael Usher on “Spotlight,” is now available on YouTube. The official version, unfortunately, removed many “controversial” remarks that 7News doesn’t want the public to hear, exposing the shocking incompetence and indifference displayed by the authorities. This blatant censorship is nothing short of an insult to the public’s right to know the truth.

According to Phelps, this dismissive attitude points to an acute lack of medical curiosity and engagement when investigating adverse reactions. The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) takes in reports—estimated at 144,000 adverse reactions and 22,000 serious adverse reactions(deaths, permanent disabilities, hospitalizations, miscarriages, and other life-threatening conditions.) —but this figure significantly underrepresents the actual problem, as Phelps said it is only “a drop in the ocean”.

Just to emphasize again, based on the population of Australia, which is approximately 25.7 million, the 144,000 adverse reaction reports represent approximately 0.56% of the population, equating to about 1 in every 179 people. When considering the 22,000 serious adverse reactions, this represents approximately 0.086% of the population, or about 1 in every 1,168 people. This is also roughly in line with Fraiman et al., who found at least 1 in 800 serious adverse reactions.

This is extremely high. For context, the 1976 swine flu vaccine recall in the United States was initiated after it was linked to Guillain-Barré syndrome, a rare neurological disorder. The vaccine was associated with approximately 1 case of Guillain-Barré syndrome per 100,000 vaccinations. This event led to the suspension of the vaccine program. The current figures for adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccines far exceed the threshold that prompted the swine flu vaccine recall.

Furthermore, Phelps critiques the TGA’s management of adverse reactions. “The TGA never gets back to anybody. They compile this data but they don’t actually follow up. They don’t know how long these vaccine injuries have gone on for. They don’t go back to people and say, you know, ‘Are you still suffering? What’s happening with you now?’” she reveals.

For many Australians, this isn’t just a “conspiracy theory” anymore. Hearing these concerns from the former Australian Medical Association President, Professor Kerryn Phelps, makes it clear that this issue is real. It’s time for real action and support for those affected.

Pharmafiles Substack 9 July, 2024

Yet they wonder why trust in government is so low.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 9:32 am
Reply to  Roger

Phelps was right behind the Covid Schtick till her pretend wife got crook.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 10:00 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Yes, I recall that. But at least she’s done a public about face as evidence of vaccine side-effects has mounted.
No politician has done so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2024 10:20 am
Reply to  Roger

My other major medical episode was Guillain-Barré in the UK around 1990. It is a scary disease. I went from no symptoms to being unable to stand in 48 hours. Six weeks in hospital and I was able to fly back to Australia. The old man had patients who had died or ended up permanently disabled so I guess I got lucky.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 9:18 am

I don’t know why travel is the evil that denies children their rightful inheritance

I don’t drink, smoke, gamble, spend a fortune on clothes, beauty treatments, entertainment or expensive hobbies.
No one wags the finger at parents who do any or all of those things.
I’m flying out tomorrow ?

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:44 am
Reply to  Rosie

Have a safe trip Rosie, and a wonderful time.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 10:01 am
Reply to  Rosie

PS. Don’t forget to keep us up to date on your travels, love reading about them.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 11:06 am
Reply to  Rosie

What Crossie said. Have a good trip.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 11:34 am
Reply to  Rosie

Enjoy the trip.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 9:23 am

They speak as if calling someone a populist is disparagement.

It is disparagement in their eyes.

The ruling caste regards populists as incompetents without solutions*.

Physician, heal thyself!

*And a threat to their power.

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 16, 2024 9:52 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Jees, DB. That’s sad.
Look, here’s my sad face just to prove I’m upset at the Neocons not getting what they want.
🙂

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 10:06 am
Reply to  dover0beach

That’s a pretty good indicator that he is the right choice.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 16, 2024 10:32 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Excellent.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 9:27 am

The Dims seem more like a self-appointed elite class that deigns to rule the people because the people are too stupid to govern themselves. 

Mother Lode, those voters are too stupid since they keep voting Dem no matter how horrendous the politicians become and the monstrous policies they put forward. Democrat politicians are aware of this as well and can safely despise their voters. The only thing that could change the Democrats is to lose a few election in succession, this would shed the worst of their officials and possibly usher in a saner generation of politicians on their side.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 9:28 am

Amazing how things can change literally overnight.

Zelensky Suddenly Reverses, Says Russia Should Attend 2nd Ukraine Summit (16 Jul)

Biden Finally Gives RFK Jr. Secret Service Protection (16 Jul)

It’s a mystery!

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 9:39 am

Biden Finally Gives RFK Jr. Secret Service Protection (16 Jul)

For all its checks and balances, the American system of government is often nonsensical to the point of absurdity.

In what other democratic polity would the security of election rivals be in the hands of the incumbent?

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 10:09 am
Reply to  Roger

The same applies here and only can be so in any form of government as the governing party controls all departments.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 11:04 am
Reply to  Crossie

No, the security assessment for Peter Dutton would not be done by Anthony Albanese!

LOL.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 9:32 am

Mother Lode
 July 16, 2024 8:49 am

Meanwhile, in Milwaukee MSNBC gets a touch up.

MSNBC and NBC pulled Morning Joe this morning too – they could not be sure that Joe or Mika, or one of their guests, would not utter some inanity that would make the network look really bad.

I would say some remaining adults have pulled him aside and told him to dial it back a bit.
Being a Proud J’ism Man, he was affronted at the attack on his J’ism independence.
Which he is probably one step away from practicing on his own blog.
As with all these cases, the advertisers will be running scared of a consumer backlash if their advert is wedged in between a Joe lunacy sandwich.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 9:33 am

JD Vance is an Appalachian, of Scots-Irish descent. He is a true hillbilly.

The Scots-Irish laid the foundations of the Republic, they were the backbone that built America.

Vance grew up in a highly dysfunctional Appalachian family, a family beset by drug abuse and divorce, he is where he is today because of his grandparents. Vance understands the concerns of the poor, particularly the marginalised rural white poor.

Since the left love to obsess about ‘skin colour’, Vance’s beautiful wife is the dark-skinned daughter of Hindu American immigrants. Like Vance, she is a Yale graduate. Both are Catholic converts.

Vance and his wife represent everything that has made America great.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 9:44 am

I’m happy to acknowledge my Scots-Irish grandfather! There was a good TV series years ago about them in the USA and their work/play ethic!

mem
mem
July 16, 2024 9:36 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 16, 2024 9:36 am

Albo and Allan AA undertaking therapy by media for addiction to criminal union funding.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2024 10:24 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

The CFMEU timing is fortuitous. Good time to table anything you might have been sitting on for a few months.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 10:33 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Or a couple of years, in the case of Albanese and Allan.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2024 9:37 am

Grace Tame set to step down at charity; Yoni Bashan13 hours ago.
Updated 2 hours ago

Grace Tame will step down as the CEO of her charitable foundation amid a donor backlash over its questionable governance and a half-hearted leadership style that left a scattered strategy and produced few tangible results for sexual abuse survivors.
Grace Tame Foundation director Michael Salter has been making it known around town that Tame will soon cease in the position and recruitment efforts will begin to identify a successor.
Margin Call understands a job listing will be published soon.
Tame’s inexperience was evident to anyone who dealt with the foundation, its dysfunction well-known in philanthropic circles. Largely a side project between a book deal and speaking gigs, it overflowed with donor funding but largely duplicated the work of established peers.
Within two years it had seemingly run out of goals to pursue. Piles of money sat on its books and it had already achieved modest goals in reforming sexual assault legislation around the country. But the board, flush with cash and under pressure to spend it in meaningful ways, took an ill-advised turn and began funding counselling services and legal fees for sexual abuse survivors, cannibalising existing services and drastically diverging from the foundation’s original ­purpose.
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Donors were never told their money would be used in this way – on lawyers and counselling – and we know some benefactors were left furious about the lack of transparency.
More than half of the donated funds for FY23 – about $170,000 – were used to pay for counselling and legal costs, creating manifold problems in the ­process.
This column would go on to reveal that every dollar spent on legal services ($107,000) had been channelled into Marque Lawyers, whose managing director, Michael Bradley, sits on the Grace Tame Foundation board.
A perceived conflict of interest, this ought to have ended Bradley’s role as a director or seen his firm removed from the panel of legal providers.
We checked, however, and he’s still on the board, and our attempts to reach him were un­successful.
The foundation didn’t respond when asked about these developments with Tame.
What never seemed to occur to Tame, or the foundation ’s leadership, is that funding survivors on a discretionary basis, in secret, would advantage a tiny group of people fortunate enough to be aware of the money.
Never mind the absolute lack of transparency around the decision-making – those who truly needed it wouldn’t even know it’s available.
All of which makes for a mess of an organisation which lost its way and is in desperate need of a reboot.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 11:11 am

I had read that piece earlier this morning.
Gracie should have called the charity the “Fountain Lakes Foundation”.
Look at moi, look at moi.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2024 9:43 am

The great level of accurate comment recently is so good. Thankyou dover for allowing us. I hope one day to rise to the level of many of you. I’m too cynical, probably with good reason but my grandsons are changing that. How I love being a granddad. The world looks so much better through their eyes.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Grandees are the best!

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
July 16, 2024 8:03 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Absolutely. My only grandchild is a youth of 15.
He is amazing, and very right wing, in a good traditional way.

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