Open Thread – Mon 15 July 2024


Ruins in the moonlit landscape, Arnold Böcklin, 1849

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 9:46 am

MTG at the RNC! Go Marjorie!

Beertruk
July 16, 2024 9:49 am

johanna
 July 16, 2024 8:40 am

Someone above posted a cip of a speech by a former US Border Patrol chief. What struck me was when he told then President Trump that South American countries were refusing to take back illegals like MS 13 gangsters, Trump acted. He phoned up the Presidents or whoever was in charge and told them that unless they took their spawn back, all US aid would be cut off.
Two days later, planeloads of them were on their way home.
Diplomats revel in making things complicated – just imagine the many reasons why they would have told Trump it was a bad idea.
Sometimes you need to put an axe through a Gordian knot.

This one Johanna. I watched it as well and he didn’t hold back. Also didn’t hold back about how numerous children were and are being exploited in the border disaster as well :

Zippster
 July 15, 2024 10:24 pm

“That’s A Bunch Of Bullsh*t!” Tom Homan RIPS Karine Jean-Pierre At Major GOP Event
great speech

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calli
calli
July 16, 2024 9:49 am

Who put the ladder there? The most likely person is the (now) headless would-be assassin.

It was hardly a spur of the moment decision to have a red hot go at Trump and/or his supporters (the bomb paraphernalia is a clue). He could have put the ladder there days earlier, or simply found it and used it. These were small town sports fields and such stuff is lying around everywhere. When they back track his movements you’ll likely find he’d sussed the place out earlier.

Of more interest is why didn’t the security detail comb the venue properly before the event began. They had time to put on their uniforms and tool belts and don their assorted weaponry. But no one appears to have had the nouse to do a walk around.

As for Headlesses social media presence, it will be unearthed if there is a will to do so.

Morsie
Morsie
July 16, 2024 9:53 am

Interesting that my US portfolio ( very small and only 5 stocks ) has barely moved since Saturday’s events.I was expecting a bump.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 9:54 am

In addition, rumour has it (hmmmmm) that his parents are progressives. The gun belonged to Dad.

Nothing like stoking the hatred around the dinner table and having the means to take it further. Catastrophically, as it turned out.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 9:59 am

These were small town sports fields and such stuff is lying around everywhere. When they back track his movements you’ll likely find he’d sussed the place out earlier.

I can’t be sure, but it looks like that property is separate from the rally property.
It would be interesting to have a fire-side chat with the owner and employees.
Another thing which occurred to me is whether the Trump camp contributed to confusion. The site looks pretty much like a paddock with limited fixed infrastructure. Did the campaign provide a mud-map of the site layout which was inaccurate or confusing, or was the final set-up different to that proposed?

cohenite
July 16, 2024 9:59 am

Good start to the day: Trump recovering, JD on the ticket and Trump has literally a cast of thousands to fill other important positions. That POS Jack Smith booted and the other 3 cases against Trump completely rooted:

1 Engoron will soon face criminal charges
2 Merchan has been fuked by SCOTUS and immunity
3 Fanny will soon be in the lockup.

Morsie
Morsie
July 16, 2024 10:05 am

Allegedly SS resources were diverted to Jill Biden so the SS was stretched at the Trump rally.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 10:06 am

calli
 July 16, 2024 9:54 am

In addition, rumour has it (hmmmmm) that his parents are progressives.

Even more worrying, I saw a report that they both worked as counsellors.
In other words, hand-patters who would have a very light touch when it came to discipline.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 10:10 am

As for Headlesses social media presence, it will be unearthed if there is a will to do so.

The FBI are having terrible trouble trying to crack his phone, really terrible terrible trouble.

FBI Claims Purportedly Struggling To Crack Trump Shooter’s Phone (16 Jul)

It’s a mystery. I wonder if in that big warehouse there’s room on the shelf next to the Ark of the Covenant for a phone.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 10:10 am

Morsie
 July 16, 2024 10:05 am

Allegedly SS resources were diverted to Jill Biden so the SS was stretched at the Trump rally.

The narcissistic bint has already said she loves the power trip of a motorcade with everyone having to stop for her.
As I said yesterday, Trump should simply say that whatever level of protection he gets between now and November will be the new benchmark for protection of ex-Presidents.
How could they possibly argue that it wouldn’t be adequate?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 10:12 am

Allegedly SS resources were diverted to Jill Biden so the SS was stretched at the Trump rally.

Did Jill decide that her special First Lady entrance music would by suitably enhanced by a choral component?

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 10:19 am

JD Vance is an Appalachian, of Scots-Irish descent. 

The Americanism Scotch-Irish is a bit of a misnomer, as they were neither Gaelic Scots nor Irish, but from the northern English borderland counties and English-speaking lowland Scots who came from the same genetic stock and shared a common “borderland” culture. They’d been transplanted to Ulster in the reign of King James VI, hence “Irish”. Gaelic speaking Scots were forbidden migration based upon fears they might join the Irish locals in rebellion. They also had to be Protestant, though not necessarily CofE. They later took their distinct culture with them to America.

‘Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America’ is the book to read on British culture in early north America.

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Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 10:22 am

Bruce of Newcastle

 July 16, 2024 10:10 am

As for Headlesses social media presence, it will be unearthed if there is a will to do so.

The FBI are having terrible trouble trying to crack his phone, really terrible terrible trouble.

They are not going to make the same mistake again like they did with the transgender mass-murderess in Nashville and her manifesto. If they don’t “find” anything they don’t have to release anything.

Anders
Anders
July 16, 2024 10:22 am

I can’t be sure, but it looks like that property is separate from the rally property.

It’s a factory/warehouse belonging to some kind of glass/plastic manufacturer, it looks very easily accessible because there is even a Google Street View into their carpark and you can go right up to the trees where the ladder was hidden behind and simultaneously see where Trump was speaking. No security gates at the entrance, so perfectly possible for some random to go in there.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 10:24 am

MTG at the RNC! Go Marjorie!

For those interested Breitbart has a live thread on the RNC and the speakers here:

***Livewire*** Night One of the Republican National Convention

The President of the Teamsters is the last speaker, which is interesting in light of this story:

In Blow to Biden, Teamsters Consider No Endorsement in 2024 Race (Newsmax, 15 Jul)

Will there be a surprise endorsement? It would be historic if so.

Arky
July 16, 2024 10:30 am

Old School Conservative

 July 15, 2024 8:56 pm

 Reply to  Arky

Heavens Arky, you “like” a “good guy” who believes that splattering a man’s brains all over the crowd is “doing a good job”?

I assume he’s hit you too many times in the head.

Give yourself an uppercut

..

This would be my reaction too OSC, if someone else told a similar story about a lefty friend.
But this is what we were up against with the covid and the TDS. People indoctrinated by the programming.
In defence of my instructor, he is a good bloke with otherwise sound ideas.
And maybe some brain damage from past fights.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
July 16, 2024 10:33 am

Mother Lode, those voters are too stupid since they keep voting Dem no matter how horrendous the politicians become and the monstrous policies they put forward.

Just like our major parties. We don’t matter, remember?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 10:37 am

Was the ladder semi-automatic?

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 10:39 am

The Americanism Scotch-Irish is a bit of a misnomer, as they were neither Gaelic Scots nor Irish, but from the northern English borderland counties and English-speaking lowland Scots who came from the same genetic stock and shared a common “borderland” culture. They’d been transplanted to Ulster in the reign of King James VI, hence “Irish”. Gaelic speaking Scots were forbidden migration based upon fears they might join the Irish locals in rebellion. They also had to be Protestant, though not necessarily CofE. They later took their distinct culture with them to America.

All of which I am aware of however after the Jacobite rebellion of 1745 failed, followed by the land clearances across the highlands, many Gaelic speaking Scots did emigrate to Appalachian areas.

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Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 10:39 am
shatterzzz
July 16, 2024 10:45 am

What a con of an “our’ ABC sob story ..FFS! .. Pensioners in “houso” pay 25% of their pension in rent, across the board, the only time(s) it differs is if there are others living with you .. Regardless of the rent the OAP/DSP component is 25% … The OAP bloke in the story is about to pay, for some reason, $10 a week more than me but maybe in Vic they include something not calculated in NSW .. Standard OAP “houso” rent so , previously, he was paying less than 25% for some reason ..
And yes it is a bloody nuisance when every 6 months “Houso” snaffles 25% of the gummint pittance (referred to as a cost-of-living rise LOL!) but it’s in line with the 25% threshhold …… Last “rise”, March, NSW ‘Houso” took $7.40 of my $9.20 “rise” .. When I complained they just said, “We made an error last time” …. end of story …!
1st rule of dealing with or complaining about “Houso” .. THEY DON’T CARE .. be grateful you’ve got a roof over your head ………! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-16/public-housing-rent-rise-stresses-donald-pensioners/104089470

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 10:48 am

Greg Sheridan (Paywallian foreign editor): Choosing JD Vance as his running mate is Donald Trump’s first big mistake in this 2024 election.

A Never Trumper, Sheridan says J.D. Vance is too “combative”.

Sheridan – and the Paywallian’s former US correspondent Cameron Stewart, who has also written a hostile piece on Trump this morning (How long will Donald Mark 2 last?”) – are major reasons the Australian news media (even the bits that pretend to be rational) are useless as sources of information and opinion on US politics.

And they still behave as if they have a monopoly on news and the internet hasn’t yet been invented.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 10:49 am

Was the ladder semi-automatic?

An “assault” modification ladder.

Extra rungs.

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 10:59 am

Elon Musk Has Said He Is Committing Around $45 Million a Month to a New Pro-Trump Super PAC

Other backers of America PAC include Palantir Technologies co-founder Joe Lonsdale and the Winklevoss twins

paywalled

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 11:02 am

A Never Trumper, Sheridan says J.D. Vance is too “combative”.

Oh good grief! Trump was nearly assassinated a couple days ago and Sheridan is whining about Vance being too combative?

I’m slightly disappointed that Mr Vance is Trump’s running mate. I wanted Sarah Palin.

JD Vance is a great choice but no one has the battle armour of Palin, no one other than Trump has been through such intense flaming, and she absolutely terrifies the Democrats.

Which is exactly what the veep nominee needs to be. Sheridan should have the political nous to understand that.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 11:04 am

Kristi Noem on now, channel 603.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 16, 2024 11:08 am

Did Jill decide that her special First Lady entrance music would by suitably enhanced by a choral component?

Speaking of entrance music, sources tell me the Marine Corps Band is just about ready to go public with Kamala’s new number.
?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 11:15 am

The Oz is mystified.

Vice President JD Vance? Trump has made a curious choice (Paywallian)

Donald Trump’s pick of the 39-year-old Senator from Ohio reinforces his base, rather than appealing to a broader coalition. The contrast with his last VP is impossible to miss.

by WSJ Editorial Board

I think this is hilarious because of this story:

Murdoch Hardest Hit (Breitbart mainpage headline, reprinted from 12 Jul)

This swathe of TDS at the Oz today is nearly as mendacious as the Fork Corners ABC. Well elite Newscorpse media kiddies, get used to it since it looks like Trump will be winning in November.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 11:17 am

Channel 603 on Sky via foxtel is way better than we get most days. It’s the one dedicated to the RNC convention. Currently the union rep guy is telling how Trump turned them into supporters in New York.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 11:22 am

New polling for The Times reveals that Trump has moved ahead of President Biden in every swing state, even before Saturday’s assassination attempt.

The Times (UK) [exclusive, paywalled]

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cohenite
July 16, 2024 11:26 am
vr
vr
July 16, 2024 11:30 am

Channel 603 on Sky via foxtel is way better than we get most days. It’s the one dedicated to the RNC convention. Currently the union rep guy is telling how Trump turned them into supporters in New York.

The head of Teamsters said very nice things about the choice of Vance on fox.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 16, 2024 11:36 am

Democratic nominee hopeful is selling J.D. Vance hard.

We are effectively run in this country… by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 11:40 am

I watched a tiktok clip of a foul mouthed African American comedian who claimed Trump must be his uncle what with his criminal record and now having been shot. Said he hadn’t been planning to vote but would now go out and vote for Trump.
He can’t be the only one.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 11:44 am

Tom

 July 16, 2024 10:48 am

Greg Sheridan (Paywallian foreign editor): Choosing JD Vance as his running mate is Donald Trump’s first big mistake in this 2024 election.

A Never Trumper, Sheridan says J.D. Vance is too “combative”.

Good to have it confirmed that Trump made the right choice.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 11:47 am

I have Hillbilly Elegy on my shelf ‘to be read’.
You get a glimpse of those lives on shows like Justified and Homicide:Life on the Street.
My US pal lived for a while on a mountain in Tennessee.
It’s a whole other world, even driving through like I did in 2011 and 2015.
I saw Jake Shields followers disparaging J D Vance’s wife as a pajeet.
That’s okay.
Diversity is our strength.

billie
billie
July 16, 2024 11:52 am

Roger
Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neill, Monday:
‘Like a virus, populists are replicating at an exponential rate.’
She apparently hasn’t the gumption to ask “Why?”

It’s a mystery, oh wait, isn’t that choice, like Democracy?

What a hide she has

Replicating, as in, becoming popular because they have attractive policies?

It’s like she has no awareness that people have choice in a democracy.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 11:58 am

It’s like she has no awareness that people have choice in a democracy.

I believe what she’s saying is that voters should only have choices approved of by the political Establishment.

Coming a day after the attempted assassination of Trump, it bespeaks a remarkable tone deafness born of the arrogance of our ruling caste.

You’ll also find similar attitudes in the Liberal Party. Indeed, Labor and Liberal combined to amend legislation to make the election of minor party candidates more difficult just a few years ago.

Btw, she’s another ex-McKinsey politico.

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Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 12:00 pm
Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 12:04 pm

When I read the headline of this article, my first thought was, bugger, this is in Australia. No, it’s in the States, but I can see our morons at the CSIRO applauding this stupidity.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/dump-chemical-ocean-climate-change

vr
vr
July 16, 2024 12:09 pm

I think the then American Conservative magazine writer Rod Dreher was at the confirmation of JD Vance into the catholic church (not sure if that is the right terminology). I remember him posting a pic of it on his twitter website.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 12:11 pm

Vincent Van Trump.

6:58 p.m. PT

J.D. Vance is in the house, and now we see former President Trump sporting a white bandage where the assassin’s bullet took off the top of his right ear.

From the Breitbart live thread.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 12:12 pm

I’m watching the RNC Convention on Fox. Trump arrived and was on stage with his family, there was also Speaker Johnson but no McConnell.

Trump has the ear bandaged and seems just a tad frail.

I thought I saw Tucker Carlson on the stage with everyone but it was only for a split second so I could have been mistaken.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 12:14 pm

Fox News panel were talking over the proceeding so I had to switch over to 603 to hear what was actually happening on stage. I don’t need to know what Britt Hume has to say.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 16, 2024 12:20 pm

More muck served up by Sheridan.

vr
vr
July 16, 2024 12:30 pm

Teamsters are going bipartisan!!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 12:30 pm

Hilarious headline of the day come from Sky News.

Greens planning to replace Labor as authentic centre-left party (16 Jul)

In breaking news Joseph Stalin announces that his new administration will govern from the centre!

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 12:32 pm

Let’s play student immigration whack-a-mole!

Since the Albanese government introduced measures to cut international student visas and make their pathway to permanent residency more difficult, the government has experienced a surge in asylum claims from Chinese and Indian students who don’t wish to return home.
Source: SMH 12 July 2024 [paywalled]

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Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 12:33 pm

Just watched Trump enter the convention with his ear bandaged. I have tears running down my cheeks.

God Bless President Trump.

local oaf
July 16, 2024 12:34 pm

Greens, to replace Labor as centre left????

I thought the Liberals were the centre left party!

shatterzzz
July 16, 2024 12:43 pm

 the government has experienced a surge in asylum claims from Chinese and Indian students who don’t wish to return home.

What sort of “legitimate” grounds would an OS “student” have to claim asylum .. FFS!

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 12:47 pm

What sort of “legitimate” grounds would an OS “student” have to claim asylum .. FFS!

Might I suggest that merely submitting an asylum claim in Australia would be enough for a mainland Chinese student to claim fear of persecution on returning home?

Cunning!

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 12:50 pm

A union leader is speaking at the DNC convention and criticising corporations like Amazon. This could not have happened only five years ago but is correct now that the Democrat Party is for the billionaires and trillionaires.

The other new thing is that a priest said a prayer and benedictions were said by several people. This is in huge contrast where the Democrat party refused to have God even mentioned at their convention in 2020. I don’t suppose they will be more welcoming this year.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 12:52 pm

This is in huge contrast where the Democrat party refused to have God even mentioned at their convention in 2020.

They did, however, invoke Satan.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 12:53 pm

Just kidding!

Mind you, this contest is taking on a spiritual hue.

Crossie
Crossie
July 16, 2024 12:54 pm

It was Tucker Carlson at the RNC Convention with Trump, they just shook hands.

Another interview must be in the works.

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Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 12:56 pm

Trump getting roundly criticised on twitter for playing a round of golf yesterday morning instead of visiting victims and their families.
Perhaps his security detail needed a break.
I don’t think people appreciate even badly managed security takes work to organise.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 12:57 pm

Paywallian:

Hillbilly Elegy roars to No. 1 on bestsellers list

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 12:57 pm

The other new thing is that a priest said a prayer and benedictions were said by several people. 

Republican National Convention Prays for Freedom for Israeli Hostages (15 Jul)

I doubt the Dem convention would ever do this since (a) they hate God and (b) they are antisemites.

vr
vr
July 16, 2024 1:08 pm

Trump getting roundly criticised on twitter for playing a round of golf yesterday morning instead of visiting victims and their families.

The last report I say that he still hadn’t called the widow. But, WH had tried to reach out.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 1:10 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 1:11 pm

Lots of dick photos?

FBI Announces They’ve Successfully Opened Would-Be Trump Assassin’s Phone (15 Jul, via Lucianne)

As the investigation into Saturday’s assassination attempt against former President and newly-minted GOP nominee Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally intensifies, the Federal Bureau of Investigation announced Monday that they have successfully gained access to the suspected shooter’s phone.

They have not revealed what information they’ve found on the device, but it is likely to contain a trove of information about the deceased suspect, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks.

If you wonder about my initial question…

Trump Would-Be Assassin Awkwardly Joked About Penis Size (15 Jul)

In the video, Crooks jokingly described himself as being 6’4″ and as a Stanford University student, while having a ten-inch penis.

Ok maybe not dick photos, as I doubt his claim to having a ten-incher.

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Louis Litt
Louis Litt
July 16, 2024 1:14 pm

Re attempted assissination of Mr TRump – I am beginning to understand the valu of good manners and speaking as an example which the population accepts as good behavior and band behaviour.
With commentatorts saying this is on Biden to fan the hatred and zealatory against Mr Trump, my thoughts are settling this was what the lefty democrats were hoping.
I keep thinking of the film of hiary clinton being on live tv when she was told that Colonel Gadaffi had been jilled – she was giggling, clapping and wetting her pants like a 4 yr old.
This is the precendent.
Its best this is announced behind closed doors.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 1:14 pm

A Never Trumper, Sheridan says J.D. Vance is too “combative”.

Sheridan is an “inside the Beltway swampie”.
Of course he hates Trump because he isn’t part of the club. Sheridan’s main basis for support of both Killary and The Sniffer was “experienced”.
In the case of Killary, it was 8 years FSOTUS, 8 years as senator and 4 years as Secretary of State. A bit of political background but no more than a couple of dozen other prospects. As for Sniffy Joe, 40 years of grift in Washington is hardly the sort of experience we need. And, of course, Sheridan’s assumption is that life experience outside the circle is not only worthless, but to be regarded with suspicion.
Using the example cited earlier of Trump threatening to pull aid if South American states didn’t take their crooks back, Sheridan would be horrified at this disruption of the normal order of things.
His Foreign Affairies contacts would have briefed him about the long history of aid and how it shouldn’t be used as a political lever.
When presses they can’t explain why not, and I can imagine Trump taking a normal commercial approach of “Well, why are we spending the money if we get nothing for it?”
Of course, these same Foreign Affairies/State Dept dweebs will now be busy churning out papers as to why military aid to Israel should be withdrawn on a whim.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 16, 2024 1:17 pm

RNC.
The AP live stream ended 10mins ago. So it’s over for today.
Trump didn’t show up until the last hour. Didn’t make any speech.
Maybe that doesn’t happen until the last day?

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
July 16, 2024 1:18 pm

Unbeleivable – speaking with a leftie today who was saying how does it feel to have a republican shooting Trump.
I said he was a democrat and was a memeebr of a looney group – progessive what ever – no he wanst – these payments to the democrat and progressive lot were traced to a 61 yr old.
He was a religious far right extremist whose friends could not beleive he would shoot a republican.
Called BS but then the howells of proest came down – iresearched this , my sources are independent – even the people whop break these stories are lawyers who have investigated this etc
Ahhh

Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 1:18 pm

“Your face has more wrinkles than an orangutan’s ball sack.”

Greg Gutfeld, the poet laureate of US late night TV, to Martha Raddatz, the ancient witch of the US ABC as she was working herself up to her tirade blaming Trump for getting shot.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 1:20 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 1:29 pm

Crossie
 July 16, 2024 12:12 pm

I’m watching the RNC Convention on Fox. Trump arrived and was on stage with his family, there was also Speaker Johnson but no McConnell.

Apart from the impact of the Dimocrat inspired shooting on Saturday on their own campaign, it will have an effect of Republicans as well.
Expect to hear very little from ageing RINOs and Never Trumpers. Yes, no doubt the likes of McCain Jnr will still be howling at the moon, but those with one eye on their career will go vewwy, vewwy quiet.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 1:32 pm

Roger
 July 16, 2024 12:52 pm

This is in huge contrast where the Democrat party refused to have God even mentioned at their convention in 2020.

They did, however, invoke Satan.

And in 2016 they confirmed Satan as their candidate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 1:35 pm

vr
 July 16, 2024 1:08 pm

Trump getting roundly criticised on twitter for playing a round of golf yesterday morning instead of visiting victims and their families.

The last report I say that he still hadn’t called the widow. But, WH had tried to reach out.

Mmmyes.
And the widow refused to take the call.
Why would she give the time of day to the enablers of her husband’s murderer?

Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 1:42 pm

Another event to highlight on your calendar and set in supplies for –

The VP debate between Vance and the cackler.

Must see TV.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2024 1:42 pm

On the selection of JD Vance as VP, it seems that the DemonRats now oppose lifting yourself out of poverty by your own efforts?

Now giving up any pretence to support the poor in society?

vr
vr
July 16, 2024 1:46 pm

American Conservative has featured Vance on many occasions. I remember first reading about him via the interview Rod Dreher had done about the book.
J.D. Vance Becomes Catholic

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 2:03 pm

After the violence and tragedy of the last few days, it is good to able to read something funny. Enjoy.

https://redstate.com/bradslager/2024/07/15/vp-harris-challenges-jd-vance-to-a-debate-when-2-people-debate-each-other-in-a-debate-format-as-people-n2176920

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 16, 2024 2:12 pm

Firstly, J.D. Vance was a regular guest on Fox with the main people in the evening for at least a year before he won election into the Senate.
Secondly, Tucker Carlson was sitting in the front row, the Trump row – only Byron Donald sat between him and Trump himself.

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 2:12 pm

Special Counsel Jack Smith spokesman:

“The dismissal of the case deviates from the uniform conclusion of all previous courts to have considered the issue that the Atty General is statutorily authorized to appoint a Special Counsel. The Justice Dept has authorized the Special Counsel to appeal the court’s order”

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 2:22 pm

I agree Dover, malice preceded and created the incompetence.
When you have people screaming to (local) police that there is a person crawling on a roof and no-one has relayed that to the agents around the president you have to ask why Trump was given such a meagre disorganised team.
The truth is there must be dozens if not hundreds who might make such an attempt if the circumstances arose and this time malicious incompetence at the most senior level gave Crooks the opportunity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 2:27 pm

dover0beach
 July 16, 2024 1:47 pm

I see some people are settling on the incompetence angle.

I can’t speak for others, but I haven’t “settled” on anything.
However, if you are to critically examine it, you must include the broad category of “f-ck up” as one possibility.
This could have several sub-categories including petty competing jealousies between agencies resulting in poor communication and role clarity, general complacency and laziness or poor training.
The incident can be divided into two strands.
Firstly, the motivation of Crooks. I have no doubt he acted as he did largely due to his entire teenage years being filled with TDS propaganda to the point where he thought he would be doing a great service by shooting Trump. Was he further directly encouraged by others either in authority or not? Who knows?
Secondly there is the security. It seems to have suffered a couple of “101” level lapses, which Ms SS Chief needs to explain. The longer she goes without issuing at least a preliminary report, the more suss it looks.
One thing is for sure. If Trump wins, there will be a Secret Service clean out and you will see less DEI, and more ex-Marine hard-heads.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 2:32 pm

But if the Judge Cannon is anything to go by, the regime is almost resolved that Trump will now be President barring any future surprises.

Reports on their ABC last night that they were privately conceding.
Which means they will soon go into “save the furniture” mode to try to contain the down-ticket damage in the House and the Senate.
I don’t see a role for Sniffy or Kamal in the furniture preservation project.

Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 2:35 pm

2024 Election tidbit – J.D. Vance is the first US Marine in history selected to be a candidate for president or VP (John Glenn was considered but not selected).

Last edited 5 months ago by Zatara
Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 2:36 pm

The US news media commentariat has immediately switched from Trump’s “threat to democracy” to the “bomb throwing radical” vice-presidential nominee J.D, Vance.

I think they fear Vance because he’s more articulate than Trump and wrote a best-selling book about overcoming his deprived upbringing in the back blocks of America to become a successful family man — i.e., the American dream.

They have no comeback except gaslighting propaganda and fear-mongering.

Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 2:36 pm

Trump looks still shell shocked to me. Not surprising really when you come within millimeters of having your brains scattered around you. Probably takes a few weeks to process what actually happened and recover mentally.

Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 2:41 pm

The Justice Dept has authorized the Special Counsel to appeal the court’s order”

Apparently someone just refuses to get the point.

The Court has found that Jack Smith was unlawfully appointed, therefore he is not a Special Counsel and has no standing to appeal anything.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 2:42 pm

Trump looks still shell shocked to me

Agree. He came close to having his brains blown out, like JFK.

He knows he’s a lucky man. He can thank God for this. And we must thank God he was spared.

132andBush
132andBush
July 16, 2024 2:46 pm

It just gets more fuked:

Over 20 minutes on the roof!!?

How is it even possible to screw things up that badly?

Vicki
Vicki
July 16, 2024 2:46 pm

Great article from bystander with experience at Trump rallies.
A First-Person Account Of Security Issues On The Ground In Butler, PA
By Gabriel Williams

To the iconic question “Where were you when JFK was shot?” we can now add “Where were you when Trump got clicked?” As it happens, my wife and I were 40-50 yards from the podium in Butler, PA, and approximately 200-225 yards from the shooter. This essay records my impressions of and thoughts about events I witnessed.

Preliminarily, though, I want to applaud the counter-sniper team that took out Thomas Crooks. Within a matter of seconds, these snipers, whose job is to be reactive, not proactive, identified the target, acquired him in their optics, and fired successful headshots on a prone, low-profile target. Crooks was dead before Trump was on his feet, pumping his fist. I don’t care who you are, this was top-shelf, gold-standard suppression on an active threat.
Putting aside rumors about instructions they did or did not receive before Crooks fired, I believe they did their job as swiftly and flawlessly as could be expected in the heat of the moment. For my part, respect is owed here until I’m definitively shown otherwise.

That said, everything else about yesterday was an absolute train wreck. Let’s start with entry to the venue.My wife and I have attended five Trump rallies, three of which were held outdoors. Once you get to the gate, security requires you to put everything you’re carrying on a table for inspection. Then, you go through a metal detector, after which an agent with a wand gives you the once-over. At least, that’s what happened at four of the five rallies.

Yesterday, I didn’t get wanded. Instead, when I went through the metal detector (which didn’t go off) and then presented myself in the usual ‘T’ stance with arms out, the uniformed agent simply said, “You’re good. You can go on through.”That struck me as peculiar but not alarming. I never thought a U.S. Secret Service agent—whose principal was not only the presumed Republican nominee for the presidency but a former U.S. president—would be so relaxed, but I knew I was safe, so I put it out of my mind.

The venue itself was also a problem. Here are two videos I took of the scene before Trump was shot:
 

 
In those videos, you saw:

  • dense trees somewhat close in and to both sides of the venue, with clear lines of sight to the podium;
  • open umbrellas;
  • a water tower(!) about a quarter-mile off the venue, but with an excellent line of sight (I’m talking about Texas Tower/Book Repository-grade line of sight) to the podium. I noticed the counter-snipers repeatedly checking the tower;
  • a utility pole almost right next to me with foot pegs in (which a couple of people actually partly climbed, without security protests, to get a better camera shot of Trump as his motorcade arrived; and
  • elevated terrain that sloped downwards from spectator to podium.

When has the low ground ever been advantageous to a defender? The whole point of a podium is that the attendant protective detail has an advantageous and unobstructed view of the crowd. Indoors, I concede that this is probably acceptable, but that’s a finite and much more easily controlled space.Given these factors, who was running the advance team, and how did they conclude that this was a safe space for a presidential candidate in a heated campaign?

Between the water tower and the downward-sloping terrain, each should have been a red flag nixing the venue. At the very least, these deficiencies should have had dedicated members of either local law enforcement or USSS personnel assigned to them exclusively (such as shooters or just eyes on top of that water tower). Those who inspected and signed off on this location should be the first ones hauled before a congressional inquiry about this of course, the more pressing question is how a shooter armed with a long gun got within 130-150 yards of one of the most polarizing figures in U.S. political history–unchallenged. The fact that spectators apparently were shouting the alarm about this guy makes it even worse.

It’s infuriating and inexcusable that matters got to the point at which Trump was shot. If the venue had been properly vetted and analyzed, a young, inexperienced shooter could never have gotten within 400 feet of Donald J. Trump, climbed onto a roof, gotten into a prone firing position with even just a slight advantage in elevation, and fired off 6-8 shots before being neutralized.

It was Crooks’ own experience that saved Trump. There’s a small airfield immediately outside the venue, with the usual windsocks. As a pilot, I know how to read them. During the rally (allowing that windsocks are the roughest of measurements), I estimate that the wind was 8-10 knots, slightly gusting (breezy).
At 130-150 yards, that would have mattered very little to an experienced shooter who knew how to correct for windage. An inexperienced shooter, however, would not know that. I firmly believe Donald J. Trump is only alive right now because Crooks was a poor shot, almost certainly under immense emotional pressure.

The poor shot wasn’t because of security pressure. After all, Crooks got into position, set up, had Trump in his sights, and got off 6-8 shots, scoring one graze on a headshot, all without any serious challenge or impediment. Crooks had a clean shot on target, and, thank God Almighty, he blew it.
When I say the failures of the Secret Service here are inexcusable, the word “inexcusable: itself seems insufficient. We’re supposed to be the varsity, and the world just saw some of the best we have get punked by a 20-year-old with Dad’s AR.

I loathe pointing the finger at law enforcement officers or USSS. It’s a thankless job, and I easily believe they have problems with having sufficient personnel—but not an excuse. If you cannot properly and adequately protect the principal at an event, then you must tell the principal that the event cannot go forward. The director of the USSS, Kim Cheatle, is going to have some very uncomfortable questions to answer in the coming days, and it’s not hyperbole to call what happened yesterday a career killer. In a different era, any person failing this badly would have been expected to fall on her sword.

However, there is a silver lining to all this. Democrats and the radical left really are the undisputed masters of unintended consequences. By virtue of surviving (and getting back to his feet like a boss to pump the crowd), Crooks just banked Trump the kind of political capital that all of Trump’s money would never have been able to buy on its own.

Good luck throwing Trump in jail now, Justice Merchan.

Welcome back, Mr. President. We’ve missed you.

Vicki
Vicki
July 16, 2024 2:53 pm

Trump looks still shell shocked to me. Not surprising really when you come within millimeters of having your brains scattered around you. Probably takes a few weeks to process what actually happened and recover mentally.

I wasn’t able to see the rally today. ButI would think any after effect could be similar to a near fatal incident in battle, since the attacker intended to kill him.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 2:59 pm

This has to be the most outrageous comment yet. It’s outright incitement.

Entire post.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 3:00 pm

@DC_Draino

The FBI has opened the Trump assassin’s phone and can’t seem to find a motive

Shocking

Just like they couldn’t find a motive with the Nashville Trans Terrorist who shot up a Christian school

The FBI continues to hide the truth about who the *real* violent extremists are in this country

And it ain’t the people wearing red hats

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 3:06 pm

“I only hope J.D. Vance has imagined what can be, unburdened by what has been.
Reply
“If he opens the VP debate with that before Kamala goes, she’ll have nothing.”

https://x.com/D_B_Harrison/status/1812933420940730500?t=Y_nqtJZO1sq0x8CewJBTHw&s=19

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 3:13 pm

Being a bit “shaky” is perfectly normal after an adrenaline pumping near miss. And the knowledge that a decent man behind you was killed with the bullet meant for you. Sobering stuff.

Trump can take inspiration from “missed me” Reagan and Bull Moose Roosevelt.

I had a look at his family there. He has the most important thing – solidarity.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 3:15 pm

Because she’s not their lapdog they’ve been attacking her nonstop. Impartial justice is totally beyond their comprehension.

Liberal freakout over Trump judge ruling shows they don’t really believe in judicial independence

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 3:15 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 3:15 pm

When Biden made his remarks after Trump had his ear clipped in an attempted assassination, did he mention his son, Beau, hinting (but carefully avoiding actually saying) that he had died in Iraq?

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 3:21 pm
Zippster
Zippster
July 16, 2024 3:33 pm
cohenite
July 16, 2024 3:49 pm

Indolent
 July 16, 2024 2:59 pm

This has to be the most outrageous comment yet. It’s outright incitement.
Entire post.

The creature is a trannie:

(6) Linda Peterson – Search Results | Facebook

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 3:50 pm
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m0nty
m0nty
July 16, 2024 3:53 pm

Trump looks still shell shocked to me.

He looked asleep to me.

Anders
Anders
July 16, 2024 3:56 pm

Investigators have been able to piece together some clues about Crooks’ movements in before the shooting at 6.11pm on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Earlier in the day, he bought 50 rounds of ammunition from Allegheny Arms & Gun Works and a metal ladder from Home Depot, which he used to climb to the roof of a factory with a clear sightline to Trump’s podium, sources said.

Sources said the AR-style assault rifle Crooks used belonged to his father — Matthew Brian Crooks, a licensed counsellor who registered to vote as a Libertarian.

[School Councillor] Mr Knapp said he never knew Crooks to be political in any way, even as other kids would sometimes wear Trump or Biden attire.

Thomas Crooks’ phone yields no clues about motive for Trump assassination attempt

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 3:58 pm

Muntsac paraphrasing Obama,
“If I had a son, he’d look like Thomas Crooks”.
Prove me wrong Nazi pervert.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 3:59 pm

Mother Lode

July 16, 2024 3:15 pm

When Biden made his remarks after Trump had his ear clipped in an attempted assassination, did he mention his son, Beau, hinting (but carefully avoiding actually saying) that he had died in Iraq?

Bwah ha ha ha.
This is going to be something else.
I think it was JC who coined the term “toppering” here.
The Sniffer is an inveterate “topperer”.
He will no doubt spit out a garbled story at some stage of himself being in mortal danger.

cohenite
July 16, 2024 4:09 pm

He will no doubt spit out a garbled story at some stage of himself being in mortal danger.

Correct. The only thing the old cadaver pervert hasn’t lied about is the assassination attempts on him. Cornpop and a horde of MAGAs who were fought off by the old pervert and Hunter.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2024 4:10 pm

Sources said the AR-style assault rifle

What does that mean? That it is not with the old wooden stock?

So, they are saying he knew he would need a ladder. What was his plan? To walk around with it until he found a place to fire from? Perhaps he had foolishly assumed the Secret Service could not take up places outside the venue and it was his fool’s luck that the SS indeed left it unguarded.

m0nty
m0nty
July 16, 2024 4:10 pm

The Republican talking point about how the convention was going to be about national unity lasted less than a day. Jon Don Vance was picked because he hates the same people Trump hates. He will convert zero Democratic voters.

Still zero credible evidence of Crooks being anything other than a standard loser incel white male Republican.

cohenite
July 16, 2024 4:14 pm

Another evil kunt, a medical doctor, who made light of the assassination attempt:

Dr Karen Pinder – Search Results | Facebook

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 4:15 pm

LOL. Monty keeps pumping out the regime talking points — such a useful online idiot in a country that can’t vote in American elections.

Rosie
Rosie
July 16, 2024 4:15 pm

LOL Monty’s friend said he was asleep for a whole ‘one or two minutes’.
As though no-one has ever nodded off during a long day of speechifying.
And her medical expert buddies; it’s a fake bandage for a fake wound.
Sure, champs.

shatterzzz
July 16, 2024 4:18 pm

He will no doubt spit out a garbled story at some stage of himself being in mortal danger.

Birt surprised Luigi hasn’t used the moment to emphasise why he no longer uses his electoral office in Marrickville .. cos “threatening” .. LOL!

cohenite
July 16, 2024 4:20 pm

Still zero credible evidence of Crooks being anything other than a standard loser incel white male Republican dickless having a dick.

FIFY dickless.

Anders
Anders
July 16, 2024 4:22 pm

Still zero credible evidence of Crooks being anything other than a standard loser incel white male Republican.

His father was a Libertarian. You’ve frequently told us you’re the most Libertarian on this blog.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 4:30 pm

Sheridan is an “inside the Beltway swampie”.

Of course he hates Trump because he isn’t part of the club. 

OK…

Who’s going to break it to Greg that he’s not actually in the club either?

And that as a practicing Catholic he’s merely tolerated because he’s useful?

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2024 4:32 pm

Being a bit “shaky” is perfectly normal after an adrenaline pumping near miss.

His instinct was to get back on the horse.
Shaky or not shaky.
He’s a true leader.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 4:34 pm

Our very own Nazi appears.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 4:39 pm

Muntsac applauds experimental surgery and drugs on toddlers. He reckons perverts displaying hanging chads to kids in pre-school is high Art, BUT, mention the milkman’s offspring and it’s “how dare you”.

He has a torn spot in his gimp suit.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2024 4:41 pm

English political nerd crunches the general election numbers seat by seat and concludes:

There is a line you will hear more and more in the next few years: the Conservative Party must stop splitting the Reform vote. 

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2024 4:42 pm

Allen and the ALP trying to eke money out of everything in Victoria.

Got family heading to the snow, day trip Lake Mountain is it is half the price of the main resorts like Buller or Hotham. Or used to be. No longer, seems the main resorts have been able to discount entry fees at the expense of the smaller day visit mountains. Also lake mountain is now charging for use of the Toboggan run.

They’ve told the kids will probably be their last visit, lucky they’re older and likely won’t ask again. After snow chain hire (Going to be an icy weekend), toboggan hire, fuel getting there even snow play is fast becoming the realm of the wealthy.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 4:43 pm

I note the Nazi’s silence on the harassment of Australian Jews and our places of worship.

I am pretty sure if a mosque was protested and vandalised the way the Great Synagogue was here in Sydney on Sunday the Nazi would be screeching about ‘Islamophobia’ and spraying the blog with comments about ‘white supremacy’ and so on.

However, yesterday the Nazi was asked to condemn the harassment and vandalism yet he remained silent.

Nazis gotta be Nazis.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2024 4:44 pm

I was awaiting the presence of the dickhead monty, and xe didn’t disappoint.
You don’t get to play moral arbiter after your many years of denigrating anything remotely conservative.
Whether it’s loving teenagers run down by your lot, men being called women by your lot, laughing at women being assaulted at rallies and of course ‘legitimate grievances’ from the Palestinians.
It’s who you are. It’s your heritage to paraphrase Frank Costanza.
Monty, the turd’s turd.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 4:54 pm

On a completely different subject, today I watched Operation Mincemeat on Netflix.

It was very good, excellent performances all round. Recommended.

When I was a child I was fascinated by The Man Who Never Was, starring Clifton Webb. The newer movie fleshed out so much that I didn’t understand back then.

It has been freezing here, the usual wintry wind blowing strongly off the highlands to the west. Wind chill makes the temp around 7C. Brrrrr. Just the sort of day to watch a good movie.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 5:02 pm

I just want to remind people here that last year, in March 2023, when Kelly-Jay Keen went to speak to women at a park in Auckland, she was nearly lynched by a baying violent mob and several woman were punched by transgender perverts. We all saw the scenes. And why did they elicit such violence? Well, you see, these women happen to believe that there are only two sexes (and here’s a fact, there are only two sexes) and that cocks in frocks should not be allowed to invade female only spaces. Putting on a wig and fishnet stockings does not turn a man into a woman.

But do you recall the response of our resident Nazi to that awful violence that day? Well, he thought it was a hoot, hugely funny, that Keen deserved her near lynching, and that the other women deserved to have their faces punched in. And the irony of ironies, he called them Nazis. But you see, for all the years he’s been here or on the old blog shouting Nazi at his ideological opponents so as to intimidate and silence them, that whole time he’s been hiding the real Nazi…..himself.

He has zero credibility.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 16, 2024 5:16 pm

When I was a child I was fascinated by The Man Who Never Was, starring Clifton Webb. The newer movie fleshed out so much that I didn’t understand back then.

Callie, among my ‘not yet got around to reading’ books is the (or “a”) update written after the 50yrs expired & the details became public knowledge.

On my bookshelf in easy reach are two copies of the Reader’s Digest publication (early 1960s I think) however that is merely the incomplete version.

Earlier information was incomplete and/or deceptive. I’d always known the story, never knew there was a movie. Had I known I’d only have pined for it in vain, as in those days unless you were near a cinema during the run of a movie, or happened to be near a TV when it got broadcast (usually years after the cinema release & then not again for years after that).

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
July 16, 2024 5:16 pm

Cats
I really dig Chris Leithner and his articles.
This mini thesis is on CO2 emissions.
Love his work – he comes across as a historian and then a mathematician – that is the language side of the brain and then practical situations for maths – I can see him struggling in a pure maths class.

https://www.chrisleithner.com/investors-prepare-australia-will-abandon-its-emissions-targets/

JC
JC
July 16, 2024 5:18 pm

The big US banks have almost all reported for the quarter, and the macro side appears to be fine in the US. There were no losses or surprises of that nature, and the economy, as far as can be seen from their reporting, appears to be in reasonable shape. There is a little bit of pressure on the interest margin, which is the spread between borrowing costs and loan rates, but it’s expected.

JC
JC
July 16, 2024 5:20 pm

Zippster

July 16, 2024 10:59 am

Elon Musk Has Said He Is Committing Around $45 Million a Month to a New Pro-Trump Super PAC

Other backers of America PAC include Palantir Technologies co-founder Joe Lonsdale and the Winklevoss twins

Small change from Musk, Zipster. Small change. 🙂

cohenite
July 16, 2024 5:25 pm

European political leaders at least make the right noises after the assassination attempt:

European Leaders, Media React to Assassination Attempt on Trump (legalinsurrection.com)

Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 5:52 pm

Rapper Tom MacDonald wrote, recorded and released a piece within a day of the Trump assassination attempt.

You Missed

I’m anything but a rap fan but this guy has me listening.

Here are the lyrics

Muddy
Muddy
July 16, 2024 6:11 pm

Cripes. I take a break due to phone issues and the world goes to pot?

2dogs
July 16, 2024 6:18 pm

What gets me is this:

Matthew and Mary Crooks, née Frizzi, are certified behavioral health counselors, according to state licensing records.

Both of them. Complete and utter failure.

They say cobbler’s sons go barefoot, but on something like this?

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2024 6:21 pm

Cenk Uygur Says Trump’s Fist Pump Moment Made Him Feel “Proud” After Failed Assassination

Trump just won the 2024 election.

Uygur is the American left’s version of Monty — chief troll — and he is conceding defeat.

Ellie
Ellie
July 16, 2024 6:28 pm

My heritage. My people. My grandparents survived the Holocaust. And people are deleting our history. I am not a leftist. I stand beside Donald Trump. Hate me for that. Ok.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 6:32 pm

Hockey glibbing on Credlin over Vance. Smugster. Predictable.

And that reminds me…has our current ambassador been available for comment?

Where is the slug?

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 6:42 pm

Uygur is the American left’s version of Monty — chief troll — and he is conceding defeat.

They also have something else in common, they’re both Jew haters.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 6:43 pm

Hockey did say something that I have been pondering over and agree with.

Jumpin’ Joe is a lock for the ticket. Pride will not allow him to step down, now that he has seen Trump’s courage and zeal. There may be ways to crowbar him out of the spot, but he won’t go willingly.

Anders
Anders
July 16, 2024 6:44 pm

Showing that ‘registered party’ doesn’t necessarily tell you much:

One of the critically injured victims caught in the crossfire of Saturday’s assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump has been identified as James Copenhaver, a 74-year-old retired grandpa and registered Democrat.

Copenhaver, a resident of Moon Township, Pa., is in stable condition at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh.

Despite his official party affiliation, Copenhaver has shared many pro-Trump posts on his social-media accounts.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2024 6:52 pm

With the crapfest on the weekend regarding Donald Trump’s security, or lack there of, I reckon he should use Marines instead of the Secret Service.

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Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 6:56 pm

Good to see Tucker on the podium.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2024 7:02 pm

Numbers Bob is over on Michael Smith, turning a post on the shooting of Donald Trump, into an account of a “friendly fire” contact he was in, in the “Fun Factory.”

132andBush
132andBush
July 16, 2024 7:25 pm

dover0beach
July 16, 2024 2:47 pm

However, if you are to critically examine it, you must include the broad category of “f-ck up” as one possibility.

It’s certainly possible but at this level of politics I’d always start with ‘this was planned’ and work from there.

I’m going not so much with “planned” but more with “hoped for”.

A bit like throwing berley in the water in the hope of catching a big fish.

Problem for the Dems now though is they are suddenly in a “we’re gonna need a bigger boat” situation.

calli
calli
July 16, 2024 7:32 pm

Problem for the Dems now though is they are suddenly in a “we’re gonna need a bigger boat” situation.

Or…the wrong name was on the bullet. I can see that passing through minds.

KevinM
KevinM
July 16, 2024 7:43 pm

If I may butt in.

I would go easy on the “God saved D Trump”

We can and do thank God that he is alive but neither God or his ‘guardian angel’ could have anything to do with it. At least not according to what I’ve read lately about them.

After a few months of intensive Bible studies (to get an answer to my question)* I learned that God is love, why would He kill an innocent man and wound two others by diverting the bullet, to save one?
Is one life more precious to Him than an other?

Were he to intervene, being all powerful as He clearly is, the whole thing could not have happened in the first place.

* I have learned a great deal and know 99% more than I did before, which is about 1% of what BoN and callie and others know.

The reason I gave up because the answer to my query is not there, it was pointed out to me that while there were many spiritual experiences and apparitions described, mine was not even in a cooee of them.

May I say it was something I could not possibly have known due to time and other circumstances but it resulted in real material outcome when followed up, to say the minimum I can.

I am still not religious, sort of believe in a God so I can’t be agnostic?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 7:44 pm

I’m going not so much with “planned” but more with “hoped for”.

Quite so.
There is no doubt in my mind that they were demonising Trump largely to make him unelectable, and at the very least reckless as to what impact it might have on far-left nutjobs.
The Dimocrats are now burning the clutch out trying to back away from it. The Sniffer was on ABC tonight ‘splaining away the “bullseye” comment. “I didn’t say crosshairs. I said bullseye, because I wanted people to focus in on his plans”.
Sure.
Why not say “Put his policies under the microscope” then Joe?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 16, 2024 7:46 pm

On a completely different subject, today I watched Operation Mincemeat on Netflix.

Thanks for the recommendation
In return, we enjoyed this week on ABC i-view “Mrs Watson” – three parts, astonishing at the end.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2024 7:58 pm

This Rocky MP reckons he tracks down negative commenters or emailers then visits them. Risky manoeuvre in regional Queensland where there are more than a few who would carry out threats of violence if their target presented himself in person:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13637741/queensland-labor-mp-barry-orourke-rockhampton-queensland-visits-trolls-negative-comments.html

Yeah na, big guy you may be but I’d reckon your not stupid being an ex Housing Commission staffer, you would size up your opponent by having a staffer scope him out before knocking on the door.

Still as much as I like the sentiment and it would play out well in regional Queensland, I feel that you wouldn’t have the time to devote to what you claim.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2024 8:13 pm

If he wins, I think Trump should embrace the Secret Service DEI policy.
But perhaps with a slight tweak.
Does anyone recall Gaddafi’s Presidential Guard, comprising tall, statuesque and attractive women?
Imagine the head explosions if Trump starts employing hot, hot, hot sheilas in the SS?

132andBush
132andBush
July 16, 2024 8:33 pm

Steve Trickler linked to Crowder this morning and I managed to listen during the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLCzsLPTVUg

Like him or loath him it’s one of his best efforts.
Nails all the culprits to the fence.

Really good.

Start at the 2min mark.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2024 8:36 pm

Muslim Vote campaign politically soul-searching amid rifts, ALP infiltrationAlexi Demetriadi
6 minutes ago

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Muslim Vote convener Wesam Charkawi, right, with the then Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, in 2015. Picture: AAP
The fledgling Muslim Vote campaign risks “imploding”, with ­divisions widening within the group and among the community amid delays in locking in candidates and claims of infiltration by ALP operatives.
Community leaders have said the group had “bitten off more than it could chew”, and Canberra sources have described its leaders as “passionate” but “politically naive”, destined to lose against Labor incumbents without a change of tack.
Other top Muslim leaders have said while the campaign was “fumbling” and its political strength “overplayed”, “cooler heads” had emerged and discussions were changing on what strategy was best ahead of an election.
They said the community was in a “lose-lose” situation and The Muslim Vote’s existence showed it was formally engaging in democracy.
Sheikh Wesam Charkawi, who established and has led the movement since December, said in the week of senator Fatima Payman’s resignation to expect candidates in “days”. The campaign, however, has struggled to tie down those it would endorse in its prized ­targets of Blaxland and Watson, asking supporters on Monday to refill candidacy forms to help the process.
Prominent Muslim community figures, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the group’s propulsion into the public eye during Senator Payman’s resignation had ramped up the pressure, but candidates were unlikely to be high profile.
“It is likely to be someone no one has heard of,” one said.
“The feeling right now is that it’s imploding.”

Is anyone utterly heartbroken at this news? Naah, me neither.

cohenite
July 16, 2024 8:37 pm
Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2024 8:45 pm

My ex visited my mother on Sunday, he always manages to put a smile on her face. We’ve reconnected since 7 October, rekindling a friendship, and I’m grateful. However, whilst most people grow conservative as they grow older, he’s different, he’s become more left-wing! Odd. He’s completely mystified and bewildered by Trump lovers such as me and my mother but then again, he still watches their ABC, still reads the Guardian and still reads the SMH. He’s admitted though to now buying The Australian because since 7 October even he’s been forced to swallow some red pills.

However. sitting on the chair, munching my home made almond bikkies and drinking coffee, he listened to my mother and I profess our love for Trump and he then said….’well, what about Project 25, doesn’t that concern you?”.

Mum and I looked at each other and said, “what’s Project 25″. I said to him…”I’ve never heard about it”. I said, ‘where did you read that crap, in The Guardian? To which he nodded. I then told him that he suffers from Derangement Syndrome whereas I suffer from Trump Delirious Syndrome!

He laughed

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 16, 2024 9:01 pm

Not going to link to Global Times, but the now brainless Mr Crooks has not earned any brownie points in Beijing.

The CCP mouthpiece has ‘experts’ lamenting that Trump has gained a huge electoral advantage from not being efficiently killed – and that the whole world is now apparently giving up on the US shambles that can’t even effectively dispose of inconvenient political rivals.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2024 9:21 pm

An assassination attempt here ‘only a matter of time’, says Karen Andrews
From the Oz.

JC
JC
July 16, 2024 9:24 pm

Zat

Whoever was responsible for project 25 deserves a headkicking. It’s like they are trying to lose the election for the GOP.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2024 9:27 pm

Another bunch of phuckwits:

Comedian Black Jack’s band Tenacious D has had its Newcastle concert “postponed”.

It comes after a United Australia Party senator has demanded the immediate deportation the band following an “evil” comment about Trump’s shooting.

In a post shared on Facebook on Tuesday afternoon, Frontier Touring announced the band’s Newcastle concert would be postponed.

“Ticket holders are asked to hold onto their tickets until further information is available”, the post read.

“Hope it’s the only show postponed”,” one fan wrote in response.

While another was outraged, saying: “We drove hours had flights with our accomodation and a couple hours notice cancellation”.

The news of the postponed gig comes after a crowd at the Sydney concert of Tenacious D laughed along as comedian Black and his bandmate Kyle Gass joked over a birthday wish: “Don’t miss Trump next time”.

The video went viral after it was boosted by billionaire Elon Musk as “evil” and “contemptible”, prompting outrage among American commentators against both Tenacious D and the crowd that thought they were funny.

“The crowd seemed to think the “joke” was funny. Maybe, just maybe, these people are actually the evil ones,” said political pundit Collin Rugg, who shared the video.

“The people who claim to be moral and empathetic are currently celebrating an assa*sination attempt on a president.”

In a statement on Tuesday, Senator Ralph Babet condemned the act and called for the duo to be “immediately removed from the country”.

“To advocate and or wish for the assassination of a President is egregious, disgusting, filthy, evil, and not acceptable in any way, shape or form,” the statement read.

“This was not a joke, he was deadly serious when he wished for the death of the President.”

Senator Babet called on Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to join him in his stance, while urging Immingration Minister Andrew Giles to revoke the pair’s visas immediately.

“Australia wrongly locked up Novak Djokovic and deported him because he allegedly undermined public trust in vaccination,” he said.

“Allowing Tenacious D to remain in Australia after calling for the death of a President is unthinkable, and it affirms the weakness of our current Prime Minister.”

The clip shows Black giving Gass a birthday cake and telling him to make a wish.

While the audio shows the crowd laughing, cheering and clapping, other disapproving tones can be heard below the hum.

Political activist Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, called it “Trash. Utter Trash”.

“These people are more twisted and vile than we realised. And shame on all of the people in the crowd who thought this ‘joke’ was funny,” he said.

Filmmaker Robby Starbuck added that Black was guest of honour at Biden’s star-studded fundraiser.

“Biden supporters are inciting another attempt to assassinate President Trump. Evil and sick,” he said.

Black joined George Clooney, Julia Roberts and Barack Obama at a star-studded fundraiser for Joe Biden in June.

“Because when democracy is at stake, Jack Black answers the call. Mr President, you’re welcome,” he said.

Yeah get them out. But like monty asking for Kellie Jay Keen to be removed from our shores.

JC
JC
July 16, 2024 9:28 pm

Imagine the head explosions if Trump starts employing hot, hot, hot sheilas in the SS?

He should. Secret Service would take on a whole new meaning.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 16, 2024 9:29 pm

Ha ha yeah like Charlie’s Angels.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 16, 2024 9:32 pm

love it!

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Zatara
Zatara
July 16, 2024 9:45 pm

The Left is trying desperately to muddy the waters by claiming the shooter was “a registered Republican”. They are hoping that the ignorant and/or less well informed will forget gems like this:

Democrats’ Bold Strategy Could Upend GOP Primaries

Over the first few months of 2024, Democrats will vote in a number of state primaries across the country to have their say on who might be a presidential candidate in the 2024 election.

But while the majority will vote in their own party’s primaries, some plan to register as Republicans and vote in GOP primaries instead.

They hoped to keep Trump and other key Republicans off of the ballots.

The left now hope to gloss over the fact that the shooter was actually a Democrat donor, and oh by the way, the fact that he shot the Republican candidate for President.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 16, 2024 9:45 pm

It’s closer to throwing berley in the water while the person you want to go ‘missing’ is taking a swin.

Indeed.

I really, really doubt there will be some sort of ‘airport novel’ cunning plan from the Alphabet Agencies to recruit some disposable dickhead to top Trump.

That said, there’s no doubt that the Dem/Establishment/Deep State (‘regime’ to use dover’s terminology) were flooding berley into the waters – with the almost explicit invitation for someone to do the ‘right thing’ and rid the US of an ‘existential threat’ of a ‘turbulent POTUS’.

Add to that the security management issues and you get uncertain, deniable, untraceable, but ‘hoped for’ outcomes.

This is the same ‘no trace’ strategy used to cover the electoral interference in 2020. Facilitating distributed people who ‘know’ what needs to be done.

In other words, a moral and systematic failure.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 16, 2024 9:53 pm

The Left is trying desperately to muddy the waters by claiming the shooter was “a registered Republican”.

Inviting the conclusion that Mr Crooks was actually an ultra MAGA warrior; a Republican martyr prepared to have his brain kinetically removed, for the objective of giving The Donald a massive electoral advantage and pissing all over $200 million in Democrat attack ads.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 10:05 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2024 10:08 pm
JC
JC
July 16, 2024 10:12 pm

There’s something really strange about Reid Hoffman, the billionaire co-founder of linkedIn. He is one of the those that were calling for Trump’s assassination.

He funded the hooker’s legal case against Trump.

He was supposedly very close to Epstein.

There’s a good chance he’s being blackmailed.

KevinM
KevinM
July 16, 2024 10:15 pm

A beautiful castle, built in 1164, rebuilt in 1969 after a fire.

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JC
JC
July 16, 2024 10:16 pm

They’re going all Putin again.

MSDNC is not handling the JD Vance VP pick well: Rachel Maddow: “JD Vance I think widely considered to be the most radical choice.” Claire McCaskill “The only person who was more excited than JD Vance was Vladimir Putin. They dropped balloons from the sky. JD Vance has said he doesn’t care what happens to Ukraine.” Masterful job ‘lowering the temperature’, toadies. ‘He doesn’t care what happens to Ukraine’ Stop selling me on Vance.

  1. Bronte Beach was on the news last night. Packed to the hilt with Pommy/Euro backpackers and whatnot. No mueslis.

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