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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 22, 2025 8:46 pm

Over 40 plus years since its release.

The 12th Man – It’s Just Not Cricket

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 9:19 pm

I have had one Gin and Soda too many so, I must quickly post that, I am watching 1982, the best year for Geek movies.
God Damn, I miss the eighties!
I am inordinately glad that I was there.
Also, Drive-Ins Ruled!
Must add, I was a Head-Banger so, I was more than happy to smash Disco Records at the Aussie Rock Venues I inhabited. 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 9:40 pm
Reply to  Pogria

The Eighties! I saw Eric Burdon and the IMMORTAL Doc Neeson and the Angels LIVE…..

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 9:58 pm

I saw Angels every couple of weeks from the late seventies.
The Best Era, Ever.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 22, 2025 11:00 pm
Reply to  Pogria

You sound cool, but yeah nah. 70s and 90s much better decades than the 80s. Better music, TV and vibe. Also Hawthorn played in seven consecutive grand finals in the 80s, and cricket team turned to shit for a fair chunk of it also.

Crossie
Crossie
January 22, 2025 11:57 pm
Reply to  Zafiro

Nah, 60s and the 70s were the best era of all time for music. The melodies and compositions that came out of those twenty years transcend any other time in human history. I don’t think it had anything to do with drugs, more like in spite of them, it was just a fortuitous confluence of incredibly talented people.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 22, 2025 9:26 pm

“She was nasty in tone, and not compelling or smart.”

He added he found the bishop’s sermon also “very boring and uninspiring”.

“She is not very good at her job! She and her church owe the public an apology!”

Actual lol. How can you not love this guy? He’s hilarious! “She is not very good at her job!” – glorious understatement.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 22, 2025 9:44 pm
Reply to  Oh come on

She was, like all wokies, very concerned with the (completely specious) lgbtqia+ ‘communidy’. Or perverts, as we used to call them.
I am a very tolerant man. I do not hold with throwing them off tall buildings. They should be grateful for that and not provoke me into changing my mind.

Bruce in WA
January 22, 2025 9:45 pm

Given this is WA, the “don’t you dare defend yourself!” State, this pisses me off more than I begin to explain. And yes, Mr Smith was a proud … ummm, aspiring … never mind.

To my mind, there should never have been more than a cursory examination in the first instance. Break into my home, in a mask, armed with a machete, and as far as I’m concerned my family’s life is in mortal, immediate danger and I will act accordingly — and f*ck the police!

Police will not lay charges over the death of an armed intruder who was confronted by a homeowner late last year, WA’s top cop has revealed.

Tyron Smith, 20, broke into the Kenneally Pl home in the Kalgoorlie suburb of Boulder about 10.15am on November 29, according to police.

A couple and their child were at home at the time when a violent struggle broke out, injuring the father and Smith, who was armed with a machete and wearing a balaclava.

Smith died days later, on December 2, in Royal Perth Hospital.

WA Police Commissioner Col Blanch on Wednesday said the Major Crime division had decided against charges following a “full investigation” into the case.

He said there are defences “to the way you act inside your house if you believe you are under threat”, and authorities had taken them into consideration.

“I don’t think this ever takes away from a family suffering grief and loss of their son,” Blanch told the ABC.

“This is really challenging to not only go through the death and the grief, but certainly hear from the police that we are not proceeding.

“But the evidence is not available for us to proceed to charge, that’s essentially why.

“We have to assess whether there’s a reasonable prospect of conviction, whether the evidence is there for the charges that we may be able to place on a person, and simply that evidence is not there.”

Blanch said Smith’s family had been informed and “unless any further evidence comes forward, that is the position”.

“No one’s ever going to be happy when they hear these things and again I can understand the grief of losing a loved one but we have to operate on the evidence that we have available to us,” he said.

“I think they understood the evidence that we have available to us and it’s an unpleasant situation for us … and certainly all families involved.”

Smith’s mother Kathleen O’Loughlin said the family was “devastated” no charges would be laid and that no matter what unfolded inside the home her son should still be alive.

“We will not give up on Tyron and will make sure that we get answers and justice for Tyron, no matter how long it takes,” she said.

O’Loughlin said homeowners have a “right to defend themselves but not to an extent (where they) take someone’s life”.

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Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 10:01 pm
Reply to  Bruce in WA

The mistake was not chucking the scrote into a dam.
Livestock killing dogs and scrotes, the three S’s.
Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 22, 2025 11:18 pm
Reply to  Pogria

LOL. Get on the gin and sodas more often. Your three S’s remind me of the seven P’s I learned in the Army.

Prior planning and preparation prevents piss-poor performance.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 22, 2025 11:53 pm
Reply to  Zafiro

Grunts had a seven S’s thing also. Pertaining to their patrolling and scouting. Shape Shadow Shine Silhouette etc I can’t remember the rest.

Secco at Kapooka was D coy 6 RAR (Long Tan and the Presidential Unit Citation) which he reminded us of frequently like he was there. Was a switched on mad xunt and trained us up well, so all good.

Looked him up on Linked In recently. He’s done well. Into ‘corporate training” these days. If you want your middle-managers de-woked he is probably someone to consider.

My sister at our march-out piss up reckoned he was hot and what not. I remember telling her to chill.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 11:18 pm
Reply to  Pogria

So, why should you contaminate stock drinking water? A pile of logs in the bush was traditional..

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 22, 2025 10:12 pm
Reply to  Bruce in WA

Perhaps, had she brought him up to not invade other homes with a machete, he’d still be alive.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 10:26 pm
Reply to  DrBeauGan

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

You break into my house, with a machete, the only rule is that there are no rules.

Aaron
Aaron
January 22, 2025 10:36 pm
Reply to  Bruce in WA

If it takes that to nullify the threat, it is self defence.

Case closed.

cohenite
January 22, 2025 10:43 pm
Reply to  Bruce in WA

O’Loughlin said homeowners have a “right to defend themselves but not to an extent (where they) take someone’s life”.

The grieving mother of the piece of shit is wrong. S.248(4) WA Criminal Code makes Self-defence a defence to homicide:

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Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
January 22, 2025 11:32 pm
Reply to  Bruce in WA

A picture of the un-alived budding something or other from WA Today

Scrote
Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2025 9:55 pm

but humans do not ‘sense’ events

Wrong, humans can ‘sense’ events. History is replete with examples where human beings have sensed good and bad events.

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Yes, it’s called Intuition, Gut Feeling, or being Fey.

John H.
John H.
January 22, 2025 10:42 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Two days ago half way through watching a doco I decided to have one last attempt at fixing an appliance that had not been working for a few weeks. I had an intuition that provided the solution. The intuition arose because for the past fortnight I had been searching for a replacement and reading comments noted that solution. Two hours later I realised that the intuition arose from that memory trace. We have unconscious cognitions all the time. While I’m not a Benjamin Libet fan, we under-estimate how much of our cognition is unconsciously motivated.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 22, 2025 11:25 pm
Reply to  John H.

Meditation or “sleeping on it” are useful tools for what you speak of.

John H.
John H.
January 22, 2025 10:10 pm

History is also replete with examples of humans failing to sense events and we tend to forget when our predictions were wrong. Most predictions are wrong.

Gabor
Gabor
January 22, 2025 9:59 pm

O’Loughlin said homeowners have a “right to defend themselves but not to an extent (where they) take someone’s life”.

It’s a stupid claim.
Like in a war, in the heat of battle are you only allowed to wound or kill?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 9:59 pm

Tyron Smith: Unlawful wounding charge dropped following death of accused after alleged home invasionTegan GuthrieKalgoorlie Miner
Fri, 6 December 2024 2:00AM

An allegation of violence against a man who recently died from injuries sustained in an alleged home invasion was dismissed in court on Thursday.
An unlawful wounding charge against Tyron Smith was dismissed in Kalgoorlie Magistrates Court on Thursday, with the magistrate confirming the 20-year-old man had recently died.
The Kalgoorlie Miner previously reported on the allegation against Mr Smith, who had pleaded not guilty and the matter was proceeding to trial.
The details of those allegations were read to the court in January, with police accusing Mr Smith of smashing a teenager in the head with a glass bottle, knocking him unconscious.
Aged 19 at the time, Mr Smith was at his grandfather’s wake when he allegedly struck the 17-year-old male in the head, causing a 4cm laceration to the boy’s eyebrow.
During that court appearance, the prosecutor opposed Mr Smith being released on bail as he was at the time serving a sentence for a grievous bodily harm charge after attacking someone with an axe.

His lawyer told the court Mr Smith was eligible for parole on that sentence in February, but could not be released unless bail was granted for this unlawful wounding charge.
He also told the court of a previous breach of bail conviction by Mr Smith while he was struggling with a diagnosis of schizophrenia and had cut off his ankle bracelet.
Bail was ultimately granted

Bruce in WA
January 22, 2025 10:37 pm

FMD! Just what do you have to do to serve a full sentence. This scrote should never have been allowed out of the pokey!! Schizophrenia my white hairy butt!

Aaron
Aaron
January 22, 2025 10:41 pm

All’s well that ends well.

Au revoir

John H.
John H.
January 22, 2025 10:02 pm

Damon

 January 22, 2025 8:13 pm

 Reply to  Cassie of Sydney

Cassie, I sympathise with your loss, but humans do not ‘sense’ events. Dogs, because of their extraordinary abilities to smell and hear, may be perceived as ‘sensing’ events, but humans, no.

Smell of human stress affects dogs’ emotions leading them to make more pessimistic choices | ScienceDaily

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 10:24 pm
Reply to  John H.

True.
Dogs and Cats sense your stress. Dogs either cower or smooge.
Cats don’t care.
I love them both.

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2025 10:26 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Me too.

Sean
Sean
January 22, 2025 11:24 pm
Reply to  John H.

I have never seen a dog run and grovel at the same time until I discovered her eating my books. She was out the back screen door before I’d realized what she’d done.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 23, 2025 12:35 am
Reply to  John H.

My dad on his death bed, close to death, started crapping on semi-delirious like he was in between worlds. I believe Cassie.

Ever been a patient in a psych ward / nut house? LOL that’s where the action is. Way more fun than Contiki or Club Med. Way more educational.

You’d be too ‘sane’ with that big stick up your arse for such an experience.

Gabor
Gabor
January 22, 2025 10:12 pm

Cassie of Sydney
January 22, 2025 9:55 pm

but humans do not ‘sense’ events

Wrong, humans can ‘sense’ events.

I think I posted this before on the old cat.
We travel around Aus, nearly every year as we don’t like air travel.
Stopped at a parking spot on the Nullabor where an other couple already set up for the night.

Woke up with a bad feeling and saw them also getting to leave, we talked and agreed it was best to leave.
Could not put reason to the feeling.

Stopped at the next roadhouse for the night with no more problem.

damon may not believe in humans sensing things, being it danger or other but I certainly do and met many others who share my experience.

Bruce in WA
January 22, 2025 10:42 pm
Reply to  Gabor

Riding our motorbike through SA, on the way to Adelaide before heading back to Perth. Came to a small country town where we decided to stop for a break and a coffee.

Rode into the town and I said to Dearly Beloved, “Something’s not right. This feels all wrong”.

Her response: “Me too. Don’t stop! Just keep going”.

Found out later the town was Snowtown.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 22, 2025 10:14 pm

Gabor
 January 22, 2025 9:59 pm

O’Loughlin said homeowners have a “right to defend themselves but not to an extent (where they) take someone’s life”.

It’s a stupid claim.
Like in a war, in the heat of battle are you only allowed to wound or kill?

Steve Inman:

Homeowner Catches Home Invader

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 10:29 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

The punching is okay but, seriously, you need a decent horse whip if you really want to thrash the bastards.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 22, 2025 10:21 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
January 22, 2025 10:26 pm

Um. Someone is talking about their recollections of the last days or hours of the life of a loved one.

Another interjects: “excuse me, sir! Excuse me! You must have misremembered because…”

And yet another: “no no! Here is evidence in support of the validity of the recollection!”

Etc.

Autism reigns.

Pogria
Pogria
January 22, 2025 10:32 pm
Reply to  Oh come on

Saddo.

John H.
John H.
January 22, 2025 10:28 pm

(42) Russia’s Project 677 Lada-Class SSK Sub Brief – YouTube

Good channel. He sources publicly available information, is a former submariner(sonar operator), and gets into the weeds. What surprised me is the long maintenance times for submarines and that is not just about reactors. Russian built outstanding subs but many models are very failure prone. So if Russia states it has 50 subs, less than 20 might be operational.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 10:32 pm

Social cohesion crisis: Islamophobia envoy Aftab Malik’s ireGreg BrownRhiannon Down and Simon Benson
37 minutes ago.
Updated 2 minutes ago

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The political furore over social ­cohesion has escalated, with ­Anthony Albanese’s hand-picked ­Islamophobia envoy declaring we shouldn’t ignore the threat to Muslims “simply because we haven’t seen mosques torched or cars vandalised”.
In a new front on the debate to protect social harmony, Aftab Malik accused the Coalition of downplaying Islamophobia and cited the 2019 Christchurch massacre as a source of worry here.
Writing in The Australian, Mr Malik declares there were 932 reports of Islamophobia since the October 7, 2023, terror attacks in Israel – more than the previous eight years combined.
“The recent spate of attacks, including on a childcare centre, on the Jewish community is despicable, grotesque and unequivocally unacceptable,” Mr Malik writes. “Unfortunately, it appears some cannot comprehend ­Muslims, Arabs and Palestinians are also being subjected to vile ­attacks.
“The ordinariness of Islamophobia is what is so disturbing: the normalcy of hate endured out of the media spotlight.
“The fact that these despicable acts are not a spectacle does not mean they are not happening.
“That the worst Islamophobic attack in the history of New Zealand was carried out by an Australian citizen provides plenty to worry about here.
“We should be making every attempt to ensure that such an ­attack does not take place on Australian soil, nor downplay the rancid ideology that ultimately resulted in the murder of 50 ­people in Christchurch, simply because we haven’t seen mosques torched, or cars vandalised.”
Mr Malik, who also roundly condemned the rise in anti-­Semitic violence in Australia since Hamas launched its Oct­ober 7, 2023, attack, made the call for ­Islamophobia to be treated more seriously as Australian Federal Police Commissioner Reece Kershaw came under criticism for revealing he was “looking into” whether anti-Semitic attacks were being funded overseas.

Was there ever a religion so quick to claim the status of “Victim.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 22, 2025 10:36 pm

From the Oz. Full comment awaiting approval. Was there ever a section of the population so quick to play the victim?

The political furore over social ­cohesion has escalated, with ­Anthony Albanese’s hand-picked ­Islamophobia envoy declaring we shouldn’t ignore the threat to Muslims “simply because we haven’t seen mosques torched or cars vandalised”.
In a new front on the debate to protect social harmony, Aftab Malik accused the Coalition of downplaying Islamophobia and cited the 2019 Christchurch massacre as a source of worry here.
Writing in The Australian, Mr Malik declares there were 932 reports of Islamophobia since the October 7, 2023, terror attacks in Israel – more than the previous eight years combined.
“The recent spate of attacks, including on a childcare centre, on the Jewish community is despicable, grotesque and unequivocally unacceptable,” Mr Malik writes. “Unfortunately, it appears some cannot comprehend ­Muslims, Arabs and Palestinians are also being subjected to vile ­attacks.
“The ordinariness of Islamophobia is what is so disturbing: the normalcy of hate endured out of the media spotlight.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 22, 2025 10:37 pm

Pogria
 January 22, 2025 10:29 pm

Reply to  Steve trickler
The punching is okay but, seriously, you need a decent horse whip if you really want to thrash the bastards.

It all boils down to legal. In Brazil, they would have been shot and been left squirming on the street with that film capture.

It was their fault.

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caveman
caveman
January 22, 2025 10:46 pm

Liz Storer is giving me a headache, just talks over everyone and watched James try to make a point and cameras showed him just giving up with a huge eye roll. Its exsaperating TV.

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2025 11:14 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

AI lied to me at least 3 times this week

total fecking frogshit

MatrixTransform
January 22, 2025 11:20 pm

“Something’s not right. This feels all wrong”

Joe Rogan … stick with it, it gets interesting

  1. Thinking about beddie-byes but a bit early yet (9.35 pm) Fecking 40 degrees again tomorrow. Sick of it.

  2. Have to go to Perth tomorrow to see some crappy band play in some crappy sand quarry. I hate Perth.…

  3. My dad on his death bed, close to death, started crapping on semi-delirious like he was in between worlds. I…

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