Don’t like it when it’s used against them. Boo hoo.
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Envy of those able to live normal, happy, lives.
Thanks Calli. By definition trolls are depraved, but Chat bot AI-Marty makes mUntard look only sub-human by comparison.
Kash Patel . What’s the word on him? I haven’t been following the appointments as much as I could have…
…and as well as a donation, I’ve bought 4 bottles of rum and a bottle of Senators Vodka. I don’t…
When driving in the US please be careful to dodge the warthogs. You won’t get a second chance.
Warthog On The Road (23 Aug, via Instapundit)
Just reading about the shingles/wuflu thing, interesting, I had shingles in 1980, on the forehead and scalp, horribly painful, late last year I felt the symptoms coming on, I remembered because the first time was so painful, I’ll never forget it. Anyway off to the quacks and got the cream that supposedly works if you apply it early enough, it did and while I still developed a very mild case it disappeared within 24 hours of using the cream. Maybe I had wuflu last year and didn’t know it.
How many of those 17% of beds would have been occupied by ‘flu patients in any other year? How many ‘flu patients are there this year? How many ICU beds are occupied by patients whose conditions might not be so severe if treated earlier, rather than having been delayed or deferred due to the manufactured fear of ending up in hospital amid the media- and politician-implied (and often outright stated) “death sentence” from the coof?
Context. It really does matter.
“Almost 80 per cent of the state’s available intensive care beds are now full, of which 17 per cent are coronavirus patients. (SMH)”
So that means that 136 out of every 1000 of the intensive care beds have wuflu patients? If so doesn’t seem to be a major concern at the moment, what’s occupying the other beds?
Yah people may faint after an injection. I’m not entirley happy about needles myself.
Anyway, I reckon yr missing my point.
If media squeals ‘vax killing teenagers” … probably bullshit
If media squeals ‘misleading reports about vax killing teenagers” … probably bullshit too.
if pundits on an internet forum, who could not possible know the facts, start banging on about what is and isnt true …. then that is definitely bulltish
You’re standing in it. And it is…flash.
But not in a “rat with a gold tooth” way.
I call it that as a compliment, after many…many years designing stuff that, well, actually works.
Franx,
did you read ALL of point 10, especially the bit I am quoting?
Cassie clearly distinguishes between the nutjobs and the “wait & see”. I am not an anti-vaxxer, I have all my jabs, other than the covid. I am currently firmly in the ‘wait & see’ camp.
Great Toons. The issue now is how the swamp is going to defend the zombie. This:
Is it possible that Biden and Harris are expendable fronts for a shadowy Democrat cartel . Neither Biden or Harris have a brain between them and the Taliban and the rest of the world know it. Just who is pulling the strings and giving Biden his script.
Before he became demented biden was a corrupt, arrogant, stubbornly stupid bastard. Senility will not mask the old pedo’s personality traits, it will in fact magnify them. I am beginning to think the old mongrel is making a lot of these decisions, no doubt on the basis of his vast political experience (sarc off). There is, also, no doubt people pulling the strings for the old dirtbag – rice, obuma, the squad, the rest of the swamp – but I believe he has considerable input.
At the end of the day, the disasters confronting the US, all of them will be caused to a lessor or greater extent but this vile man.
Hanging is too good for him.
No Americans Have Been Rescued Outside of Kabul: Pentagon
it is lounge of The Continental Hotel from the John Wick movies
anyway off to the quacks and got the cream that supposedly works if you apply it early enough
Yup first sign of shingles blistering and you have roughly 72 hours to tamp it down with drugs.
Earlier the better.
We got lucky when one of our chaps mentioned “funny blisters” as he was walking out the door seeing us for another condition. Looked and said ‘thats viral” and sent happy snaps off to doc.
We actually organized a special flight to get the meds across within 3 hours.
And it worked, outbreak stopped and no long term issues.
But i think it is most effective if you have never had a full blown outbreak before.
More Flash.
Whoops…maybe a bit too Flash.
Dover accepts golden coins.
No pencils allowed though.
I agree.
If they actually did die, it would be all over social media. As I posted the other day, a school on the Central Coast(I have friends who work there) was closed yesterday and will be closed again today because a student tested positive to the Chinese flu. Social media correctly identified the school, year group, the day the student was on-site, hours before NSW Health told the Principal…
We have had students who were passengers in a fatal car accident, thankfully they weren’t killed. It was all over social media, including the name of the deceased driver within an hour. The fact that there is complete radio silence on the ‘deaths’ tells me something.
Diogenes
Yes I read it all.
It remains that 10 gives the lie to 3; and people whom we don’t like or people who unsettle us very quickly become ‘these people’. We hear it all the time.
Even More Flash.
😀
I see more than one person here has abandoned logic.
Bit sad really.
Joyce suggests Victorian and nsw borders might be closed until December
Massive return of freedoms for the NSW vaxxed
Thanks Tom.
I saw him on Footy Classified last night spinning hard to get himself in the frame.
He’s probably hoping a new regime at Caaaarrrlton will hold their nose and treat him as “the IBM option”.
(The old saying back in the day … “no-one ever got fired for buying IBM”).
Yup first sign of shingles blistering and you have roughly 72 hours to tamp it down with drugs.
Earlier the better.
Correct. Even with the anti-viral treatment I would not wish shingles on anyone; except biden and all lefties in the world; for them shingles should be permanent.
feelthebern says:
August 26, 2021 at 8:18 am
I’ve been very productive since my second shot.
I’ve been up all night.
I’ve solved Goldbach’s Conjecture.
I am now a grand master in bonsai.
Plus I’m dropping sick rap lyrics.
All with a mighty hard-on.
Not bad for 18 hours work.
I wouldn’t be too worried about the hard-on.
It’s just the blood clots and your dick will turn black and fall off in a few days.
Please tell us more.
Who has abandoned logic? How have they abandoned logic? What is your solution?
It appears the taliban now have more warplanes than Australia. Perhaps we should have attacked the Yanks to get all that free hardware.
It’s been black forever, man.
Woolfe says:
August 26, 2021 at 11:30 am
Massive return of freedoms for the NSW vaxxed
From September 13, as part of an easing of lockdown restrictions in the LGAs of concern, residents will be permitted to exercise for one hour per day, within five kilometres of home, but recreation is not permitted.
Households in the LGAs of concern who have vaccinated adults will be granted an additional hour outside.
*****************
That is now just plain cruelty. Even if vaccinated you only get an extra hour of fresh air?
I wasn’t referring to you calli.
I’m reminded though of various people back in 2016 claiming Mrs Clinton was dying/ dead/ a body double/we’ll be hanging from nooses
And yet here she is in 2021.
No, I didn’t think it was me for a moment. (Apart from my horrid Flashheart clip – I’m sure DoomDover isn’t a bit like that). 😀
On rumour and innuendo…the webs thrive on it. We are behaving exactly how a gaslit victim behaves – second guessing, wondering if they’re going crazy, looking for reasons for some of the capricious crap that’s being foisted upon us.
Add to that a degree of Stockholm Syndrome – what can we do to appease the jailer? When appeasement fails, will approval do? How much approval? What mouth movements and hand signals do we need to adopt?
And into this toxicity drops the clickbait. No wonder some clutch onto it. It needn’t be swallowed in it’s entirety, however. Some of it turns out to be true.
You have to be under 80 years old to get the Shingles vax. Says something about the elderly immune system I think. I still don’t believe I am as old as I am, and I am happy to live with that self-deception. Don’t look or feel it, so I must be doing something right. My problem-solving is still able to catch some younger ones out. Dancing is one good thing, I am sure of that, and a varied diet with a lot of meat, that’s another. Oestrogen for years has helped and I’m really missing it now, waiting before resuming transderemal application (on skin) till I have had a month out from second AZ jab in order not to confound any clotting issues.
Having an active chap ten years younger for a husband is also very good for one. lol. 😀
Diogenes
Again, 10 gives the lie to 3.
And in with respect to your select extract, the argument there is that it is ok for some to be ‘hesitant’ if we approve, if they have ‘good reason’. But if we don’t like the reasons, whatever they be, these same people are no longer ‘hesitant’ but instead morph into loathsome antivaxers, or, in your terms, ‘nut jobs’.
Well, that is not how the manifesto started out. Some slipsliding.
That’s it, head jailer Gladys?
We had a deal (h/t Cartman).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vR-DmUK-YY
If that big fat fuck Brad Hazzard wants to hide in his basement because he’s so shit scared of COVID, he can.
But the idea of locking down a city so Hazzard can enjoy a taxpayer funded life for a few more years?
What the actual fuck.
I have had the shingles jab and no side effects whatsoever. I decided to take it when it became available , after proper test trials and time, due to seeing my mother suffer through 3 attacks, and the bad pain she was in each time. Third time contributed to her death due to complications from the shingles.
When I spoke to my GP re the jab, he made it clear that it did not prevent the shingles totally, but greatly reduced the severity of the attack if one occurs.
Why not? It worked for the Duchy of Grand Fenwick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7L7WLFBYR4
Ah, no.
Both statements cannot be bullshit.
In the case of the named teenager, either the vax was the cause of death or it was not.
It seems almost certain (as certain as a third party can be) that he died of a pre-existing heart condition and he had not been vaxxed.
Are we are now expected to believe that his entire family and friendship group are part of a grand government cover up? Forget the MSM. They would be all over social media if something dodgy had gone on.
Yes, the MSM reporting is a disgrace, but this hill (teenagers collapsing and dying within seconds of vaccination) isn’t the one to die on.
Disagreeable Cats are disagreeable!
Disagreeable people found to be more prone to conspiracy theories (25 Aug)
People who are antagonistic, exploitative and generally disagreeable are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, according to recent study from a UO researcher.
…
“In plain terms, it seems like disagreeable people, who score high in these traits, are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories,” Kay said. “They are prone to odd beliefs. They don’t feel like they are in control of their lives. They are robbed of their agency and have an innate distrust of other people and organizations like the government.”
How dare you distrust the government! That’s disagreeable! Ok everyone, in unison now, say ‘baaaaa’.
Thanks, Calli.
What about the Discord site?
Brash-Cat? Mash-Cat?
I won’t call Monty’s Trash-Cat, I think it was an sincere attempt to aid in the Cat’s survival. But given his irrepressible instinct to sneer and provoke, perhaps we can go with ‘Gnash-Cat’.
Oops, forgot to blockquote. Still you get the idea, assuming you are sufficiently disagreeable.
Vaccines/treatments of any kind must never ever ever be mandatory.
Gladys : Groups of 5 people can now gather in parks.
Gays who love a 5 way jerk off : Yay !
Everyone else : ………… ?
Fat Cat.
Obviously.
Cats who trust Monty are similar to the GOP during the 2012 electoral cycle who outsourced their systems to what was called facebook for business platform.
What.
A.
Pack.
Of.
Retards.
Have had shingles three times. First, I thought the blister behind my ear was a spider bite but it wasn’t killing me, so I ignored it. Went to the chemist for a salve or somesuch and she diagnosed it on the spot and sent me round the corner to the quack. That was four amfd half days in and it took three miserable weeks to see it go away.
The next two times I was on it in a flash and it was done in five or six days of anti-virals.
Seems to be related to stress. First episode was when the ex and I were divorcing; the other two each came when circumstances were tense — Mum in one hospital and Dad in an other, and much dashing between the two.
First sign of shingles, don’t do what I did.
“Are we are now expected to believe that his entire family and friendship group are part of a grand government cover up? Forget the MSM. They would be all over social media if something dodgy had gone on.
Yes, the MSM reporting is a disgrace, but this hill (teenagers collapsing and dying within seconds of vaccination) isn’t the one to die on.”
Quite so Sancho.
..
Here, I’ve got some fresh air for you vaccinated idiots:
[paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp]
From Rory Robertson twitter.
As at last night.
In NSW:
61 days of lock down.
9000 deaths.
79 with/from COVID.
Why are we even bothering with lock downs.
Covid Delta is less dangerous than a bad flu season.
I prefer to call them contrarians or, better still, sceptics.
A true sceptic will question and accept something as fact when enough credible evidence is advanced.
Has there been any confirmation (or contradiction) of whether the Delta variant is more virulent (as opposed to contagious) than earlier strains?
I mean any official or peak bodies admitting it.
Personally I expect Delta is less virulent, but that is based on suppositions rather than direct evidence.
Who owns Darwin airport?
It’s just gone up in value.
Who owns Perth airport?
It’s just shat itself.
Hmm.
..
Yes. Delta will sneak in through any unlocked windows and root your dog, take polaroids of your toothbrush up it’s backside and leave a horse’s head under your doover. If you’re fat it’ll also leave a turd in the fridge.
Delta is basically a drunk provencial rugby team from the 1970s on an end of year trip.
I feel sorry for everyone sharing the CEO of Acrobat getting arrested joke like it’s new.
It’s so lame, Carrie Bickmore would pass it off as her own work.
In the hope that you might be shown to be wrong, which gives you the opportunity to change your mind.
Learning is good.
Is there no end to COVID’s shattering impact on our society?
The AWFL season’s start has been pushed back to January
Thanks for that, Arky.
I am definitely wearing a mask now.
Putting one on the toothbrush too.
That’s awful! How can we survive this incredible hardship?
any mention of chocolate rations ?
When m0nty started up his alternative Cat, I posted a link to Lewis Carroll’s “The Walrus and the Carpenter”.
At the same time, I said I trusted AdamD, who has been posting at the Cat for at least as long as I’ve been there, and of course, Dover. M0nty may be trustworthy too, and I believe he wanted to keep the thing alive also.
Maybe his site nickname is CollectiveCats, on account of the ever-present need of the left to herd and corral. It never starts that way, but that is how it ends.
Still no hairdressers?
I’m going to end up looking like Phyllis Diller.
It seems apposite to the way we are imprisoned.
You hear of particularly notorious felons being kept in solitary and being permitted one hour walk in the exercise yard.
How many people have posters of 1960’s bombshells in their bedrooms covering the place in the wall where they have been digging a hole with a spoon after lights out.
Think they have used all of Biderman’s Chart of Coercion now?
Fantastic, Woolfe.
Take Biderman with Cardi’s “Abusive Relationship” checklist and there you have it.
Good one Woolfie.
They really are bastards when you put it in that context.
Speaking of which, there are some small comforts.
It gives me some satisfaction to think that George Pell can now stroll across a Roman piazza for an espresso or a Campari, whilst 7-Nilligan is drinking her coffee out of a paper cup on a cold Melbourne street.
Someone having trouble with their testosterone levels?
Who says that?
Certainly not I.
Listen to you people bargain with yourselves.
You’re searching for truth and certainty.
Wherever you find it
may it bring you peace
Believe whatever you need to believe to make your inner world fit you outer experience
Woof !
Not quite MT.
There were two mutually exclusive positions:-
1. An innernet rumour that a named person had died from a reaction to a vax; or
2. A subsequent report saying that the kid had a pre-existing heart condition and had not been vaxed.
Quite simply both cannot be true, and, given this whole thing revolved around the vax, the former has been categorically disproved.
Unless, as I say, his entire family and friendship group have been bought off to go along with a lie.
If we don’t believe that, we must conclude that the “vax as a cause of his death” story is a total beat-up.
It seems an ABC “journo” who was an ex-employee of Big Pharma was the source, based on zero actual evidence, and she has since withdrawn and apologised.
Must Be Jelly (William Clarke).
According to this only 1 country has more that 80% vax and the highest double vax is Singapore at 74%
Q. What sort of person believes there cannot be objective truth?
A. An up themselves post modernist wanker.
Who owns Perth airport?
It’s just shat itself.
Shartport?
Would suit Perth.
And a reminder.
It is unethical (and illegal) to use coercion to pressure a person to have a medical treatment.
There are narrow carveouts (unconscious, insane, substance affected) which allow medical personnel to treat against fully informed consent.
How does consent survive government or company coercion?
If i was a doc who barred his patient from going outside until they had an mystery mix injection Id be lucky not to be struck off.
It would void consent.
I hope he sends her the occasional postcard. Espresso stain one time. Gelati stain the next. You get the point.
dude, I think you have an unhealthy obsession about truth
Two you say? … you sure it’s only 2?
It’s an existential problem, not a facts problem.
statement from St Pius X College Chatswood regarding the death of Thomas Van Dijk, for those that may have missed it
Yep, which is why so many find ‘friends’ swarming all over ‘Social’ Media with constant repeats of that gaslighting, and “fixing” the “miscommunicated” “errors” of the Govt gaslighters, so, head scratching.
Why do they do it, when people around the world make a very good living selling faith in the Govt’s word and also destroying the careers & lives of professionals who dare question the latest & ever changing political/bureaucratic decrees served up on that smoky plater called ‘covid’.
Say Rosie … Do you stay fit and healthy by jumping to conclusions?
the tablet yesterday on Frank Brennan/ Cardinal Pell
I don’t know mt
Do you, by assuming other people are always wrong because you don’t like them?
Dover I thought Cardinal Pell returned to Sydney this year.
I’m hoping he was only here for a short visit though .
I believe that two of the best things that will come out of this whole corona thing will be that both medical professionals & animal welfare experts, will no longer be held up as ‘saints’.
It gives me some satisfaction to think that George Pell can now stroll across a Roman piazza for an espresso or a Campari, whilst 7-Nilligan is drinking her coffee out of a paper cup on a cold Melbourne street.
It gives me none; Pell should have sued the bitch, not for his sake but for Porter, Laming, Price and every other poor bastard targeted by the dogs at the abc which is out of control. The abc is pressing ahead with its doco (sic) about the insurrection and Trump being behind it despite the FBI coming out and disavowing any organisation behind it or involvement by Trump.
Fuck howard and every other spineless lib who has not closed this putrid organisation down. I reckon the abc is worth 5-10% electoral points to the liars and filth at every election.
well, that answers that question then … I will leave you to exercise in peace
Baaaaruuffff!
Exactly cohenite, turning the other cheek just get you bitch slapped around. And as you said what about the poor bastards that can’t sue them?
As IT used to say Fight you Bastards, Fight!
Who owns Perth airport?
It’s just shat itself.
An airport has no place in sneakerland.
Darwin Award winner of the month!
I thought addicts sniffed glue through their noses.
I can just see a new line on the warning label:
OK then frolicking, how do you resist that then?
For example, plod wants to fine you for participating in an activity that Gladys has only deemed allowable for the double vaccinated. Or a refusal of service from a business.
What’s the strategy? Tell them to get stuffed because “I read it on a website”?
What are you suggesting the “unclean” do as a practical measure to stop getting harassed/arrested?
“Pell should have sued the bitch”
I agree but remember he’s elderly and frail. This man spent fourteen months in prison for a crime he did not commit. To be fair…I suspect that at the beginning he didn’t think for a moment he would be charged, subjected to a lynching and spend time in prison….he should have sued when the ABC’s Four Corners did their original documentary and he should have sued Louse Nilligan over her book of lies. But yes, ignoring the ABC just empowered them.
Edward Snowden substack on the apple surveillance that no one seems to give a shit about.
https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/all-seeing-i?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozMzA2NTMsInBvc3RfaWQiOjQwNDI4Njk0LCJfIjoiWVFyZjEiLCJpYXQiOjE2Mjk5NTMyODYsImV4cCI6MTYyOTk1Njg4NiwiaXNzIjoicHViLTM3NTI3OCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.A-_Y6ePJ54NrHf4FOHepI4ZMckUDG6mGeFzfHglpA0U
I gotta laugh.
Was just now searching youTube looking for sheep-dog videos and got an ad for like ‘the strongest glue evah”
I was enthralled by video of a one-part epoxy that is set by UV light.
Invented by an ‘Strayan dentist.
apparently
I’ve also read elsewhere here that they can’t force you to QR code (Privacy Act)?
It’s all well and good, but people need practical solutions when confronted by the “Health Nazis”. And I include an army of “private citizens” in that category.
My father is going to have a Father’s Day by hook or by crook. I will work something out.
The gargoyle twins aren’t going to get away with it.
The Bizarre Refusal to Apply Cost-Benefit Analysis to COVID Debates
I was enthralled by video of a one-part epoxy that is set by UV light.
Strictly speaking, it isn’t an adhesive. But it does grip and set like one once UV’d. It’s also paintable, sandable and a good gap-filler. Like a putty but without the mess.
All my fellow Garage Nastis are getting into it for their modelling projects. I plan to get some myself and give it a go.
Available at Jaycar or via Ebay, I believe…
If it’s true that the law is actually behind the “un-vaxed”, it would be great if some Lawyer would issue a letter you can print out.
Scenario 1:
Plod: I’m issuing you a fine of $5k from Gladys for being here. You are “un-vaxed”.
Armadillo: Here’s a letter from my Lawyer. He’s asked me to tell you to send him the fine. See you in court.
Scenario 2:
Shop Assistant: You haven’t QR coded. You must do so before entering.
Armadillo: My Lawyer needs you to complete your personal details here so I can fax it through to him when I get home. Expect a call. You and your company are going to be part of a class action. Have a nice day.
If you want people to fight this insanity, you need to give them the weapons.
This is by the bloke the FBI tried to stitch up for sending anthrax through the mail after 9/11. It’s understandable he has no faith in the authorities. His is probably the most easily accessible explanation of how the Kung Flu works and what we know and don’t know about the mRNA vaccines.
https://drstevenhatfill.com/the-covid-19-spike-protein-and-the-still-uncertain-side-effects-of-the-mrna-vaccines/?fbclid=IwAR0l1R9koLIZUre0inuMqrb7plwC9LEONcK9gwQ3gisb5_NTYcWc2nRX5gY
(Posted to both BirdCat and PoliteCat)
If Lawyers are so certain of their legal standing, they should be offering this is a FREE service.
The “un-vaxed” get their fines dismissed + a % of the damages. The Lawyer keeps the rest.
Armadillo
Only way it can work is if there is a court case reminding the mongs they are acting illegally.
Ill whip up a form letter, that will work…
All my fellow Garage Nastis are getting into it for their modelling projects. I plan to get some myself and give it a go.
Available at Jaycar or via Ebay, I believe…
The stuff works well. Use it for toy repairs for the little bloke. Big advantage is the fast curing.
Mole, why aren’t the Law Society already shoving this down the Governments throat?
Isn’t the law there to protect the people? Justice and all the rest? Surely there must be at least a few lawyers in this country shaking their collective heads?
It certainly doesn’t appear that way.
check this out, this is on a programming discord:
hypocrisy is a feature not a bug
It actually appears that the lawyers are there to protect the Government. Which is pretty ironic, considering that the people are meant to be the Government.
..
What drugs are you on?
Everyone, I mean EVERYONE, coppers, soldiers, parliamentarians, judges, give their pledge to the CROWN.
We’re not America.
Good for you calli.
We are all hardened criminals now.
Just ask my mum. 😉
Which finally gets me to my point. Is what the Government doing legal, or isn’t it? Some here is seem to suggest it isn’t. Is that right, or isn’t it?
Look around real world activities now and how chock full of “Covid Marshalls” of varied ‘levels’, from on the day volunteers, to, ‘I can F#ck Up Your Life’, levels.
Some, yes, do believe they are ‘doing something good’ but none have any desire to give up their new ‘super power’ especially the well paid top brass.
It all reminds me far too much of another time in not to distant history …
Areff ftb got the pfizer just yesterday or the day before, the good doctor has obviously missed a major side effect.
Delta spreading rapidly in the Mississippi.
People are being encouraged to avoid large gatherings, wear masks and get vaccinated.
Meanwhile in Australia…
coronavirus reopening American map
Steve Trickler put up at the other place this great video by Trump about the bastard zombie; in a just world this would be all it would take to get biden into jail:
https://rumble.com/vln3jf-trump-just-released-devastating-new-ad-that-will-end-bidens-whole-career.html
But since it isn’t a just world nothing will happen.
UV activation also available in polyester and vinylester
Local Bowlo had to pull the reins in on one of the bar wenches. Unbelievable what the tiniest bit of “power” will do to some people. Amazing stuff to watch as she selectively harassed the crap out of those who weren’t either club directors or fellow staff members.
is that Tuesday’s only with the cheap parmi ?
Rosie … you still exercising?
do they all have the blues as well?
Which finally gets me to my point. Is what the Government doing legal, or isn’t it?
With emergency health orders they are at the “red underpants on the head” stage of accountability.
From WA health.
1.3 Principles
The policy is guided by key two legal principles which underpin consent:
* Patients have the right of autonomy or self-determination, recognised at law.
* This has been described as the “right of every human being of adult years and sound mind
to determine what shall be done with his own body”.2
* The provision of medical treatment without patient consent exposes health professionals
to risks of legal claims including trespass to the person (assault and battery) and/or
negligence (failure to inform), except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment
without consent
Now that last bit is generally for those who are mad or otherwise unable to make sound decisions.
Missing entirely from what voids consent…
Consent will be valid if it is:
* voluntary – the decision to either consent or not to consent to the proposed treatment
must be made by the patient themselves, and must not be unduly influenced by health
professionals, friends or family
Where is government or employers?
A narrow reading of the WA guidelines seems to indicate government is free to “unduly influence” to its hearts content.
Amazing how we have all these rights bodies set up by the government yet none noticed that little detail.
Delta spreading rapidly in the Mississippi.
What does that state have, which puts it in the top 10% of the US?
Obesity.
The secret to not getting sick from COVID is don’t be obese & don’t have type two diabetes (which so many old &/or obese people have).
Oh you missed the point mt.
The Mississippi government appears to be in the business of giving advice.
People can take it , or not.
Rosie … you still exercising?
do they all have the blues as well?
Dammit, MT!
Everyone knows that Memphis! is the Home of Blues (Mississippi ain’t heard the news).*
Chain said so…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALYsQlOL_YA
*It also has [had?] a pyramid…
What an unusual accusation.
I followed your link rosie …
this advice?
Seems clear enough that other than mask mandates and some social distancing rules the biggest problem for businesses in Mississippi is people choosing to stay home.
the clarion ledger article about the woes of a Jackson Mississippi business owner.
The Project’s Lisa Wilkinson part of complicit media amid power grab
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When it comes to responding to pandemics, have you ever thought we could be regressing? Last week the South Australian government instructed residents in home quarantine to install an official sign at the front of their houses to warn off the public. “Nothing personal,” the bureaucrats probably say when they check the lepers are complying with regulations. “Just letting anyone and everyone know that you are unclean.”
This latest directive was announced by SA Police Commissioner Grant Stevens, a man emulating the 17th century Mayor of London Sir John Lawrence. In 1665, when plague was felling Londoners en masse, he decreed “That every house visited [by the disease] be marked with a red cross of a foot long in the middle of the door, evident to be seen, and with these usual printed words, that is to say, ‘Lord, have mercy upon us,’ to be set close over the same cross, there to continue until lawful opening of the same house.”
It is perhaps befitting for Adelaide, otherwise known as the City of Churches. Their current restrictions remind me of John Wyndham’s classic book ‘The Chrysalids’, a post-apocalyptic depiction of an ultra-religious and superstitious society terrified of outliers and fringe-dwellers. Remaining within the state and observing Covid restrictions do not necessarily guarantee one’s liberty. Only last month South Australians at two exposure sites, including a restaurant, were herded into hotel quarantine, despite having returned negative tests.
But thankfully health officials there base their decisions on science. For example, telling the population that pizza boxes and footballs are bad juju. Bizarre I know, although by no means the weirdest thing to happen in Adelaide. As for the arbitrary decision to brand the residences of those in home quarantine, no thought appears to have been given to winning hearts and minds for this measure. They could have emphasised to the residents concerned the positives of displaying this sign. No charity collectors, no Jehovah’s Witnesses, no Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young knocking on your door. The only hassle for officials would be having to wrest the sign from householders at the end of the quarantine mandate.
It is only a slight exaggeration to say some commentators regard the virus as a vengeful and jealous god that must be appeased. Only through great suffering and quivering in fear before it can we hope to be spared. As Nine’s political editor Chris Uhlmann observed last week, the media has not so much acquiesced in Australia’s “supine acceptance of rank authoritarianism”. Rather it “has become a cheer squad for the blunt instrument of lockdowns”.
Last week The Project co-host and Sydney resident Lisa Wilkinson castigated the NSW government for its management of the pandemic. “Gladys Berejiklian makes no restrictions, she’s doing nothing, the soft lockdown continues,” Wilkinson fulminated. “She’s stuffed this”.
It was a theatrical performance, delivered with Wilkinson’s trademark look of imperious disdain. “If Gladys Berejiklian isn’t up to the job, then she needs to step aside,” she declared, adding “I think I speak on behalf of just about everybody that is watching these press conferences … they are almost unwatchable. The whole situation is completely farcical”.
Indeed, I cannot think of anyone better qualified than Wilkinson to speak on behalf of all of us. Who could forget her sanctimonious open letter to Prime Minister Scott Morrison on the night of the 2019 federal election? “Prime Minister, you may have noticed we’re all feeling just a little broken right now — broken-hearted in fact, at how toxic the Australian body politic has become — and a return to basic civility in public discourse would be a great start to that healing,” she wrote. You know, informed and civil public discourse such as saying on national television “she’s stuffed this”.
Greater Sydney has been in lockdown for the last two months. Businesses have been destroyed, residents have been confined to homes, families have been separated from loved ones, and thousands are without income as they are not allowed to attend their workplace. Apparently, this constitutes in Wilkinson’s mind a “soft lockdown”.
But it may be Wilkinson possesses far more resilience than your average Sydney resident. You do not hear her complain, for example, of being cooped up in her palatial North Shore home. She does not publicly lament the closure of her up-market local gym. Being the trooper she is, she probably copes with these privations by doing pilates in her leafy and spacious garden overlooking Sydney Harbour. Hell, I bet she has even had to make do without the domestic hired help.
Swap these luxurious digs for a dingy one-bedroom Liverpool flat in Sydney’s far west and your attitude would soon change. Imagine for example, an out of work migrant couple with two young children being confined there for months on end. Try telling them this is lockdown-lite. I do not recommend they aggravate their fragile mental state by watching The Project, but if they did, they would have a few choice words to say about the pampered white woman who purports to speak for them.
Commentators demanding last year’s lockdowns in response to today’s Delta variant are virology’s equivalent of the saying “Generals always fight the last war” It is a fact lost on many. “Victoria keeps proving every time that the minute you get an outbreak there you stamp on it, and you get back to normal life again,” Wilkinson told her fellow panellists earlier this month. “It’s just a pity it’s happening to you for the sixth time now,” she added, totally devoid of any self-awareness.
The elimination model is to Covid what the Carbolic Smoke Ball Company was to influenza – its claims are all puff. Announcing a nation-wide hard lockdown last week based on a single case, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern smugly gestured in Australia’s direction and told journalists she wanted to avoid Sydney’s “light and long” lockdown. So much for that. Today, New Zealand recorded 68 new cases, bringing the total to 277 across six sub-clusters. On Sunday, the country’s Covid response minister, Chris Hipkins, all but admitted the strategy of elimination had failed.
“Once the source of admiring headlines, we are now the subject of mocking incredulity,” observed New Zealand journalist Andrea Vance this week. And while Australia’s vaccination rate could be a lot better, New Zealand’s is worse. Only 24 per cent of Kiwis are fully vaccinated, compared to 32 per cent of Australians.
“It’s hard to pinpoint the exact moment so many of us started to fall in love with New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern,” wrote Wilkinson for 10 Daily just two years ago, calling for her to “adopt us”. What are the chances of her telling viewers in her next televised editorial that Ardern has “stuffed this”? Probably around the same as us eliminating Covid.
Journalism, for the most part, has served Australians poorly during the pandemic. Far from speaking truth to power, it now speaks for power. Its so-called progressive members deride those questioning the need for lockdowns. They regard with adulation officious and egotistical chief health officers, and they duly parrot loaded and authoritarian political terminology such as “ring of steel”.
Think of Michael Palin’s institutionalised dungeon character in Monty Python’s ‘Life of Brian’. “Terrific race, the Romans,” he says adoringly of his captors, grateful for the privilege of being suspended on the wall. “Terrific.” That is your average journalist and commentator reflecting on Covid restrictions.
You were supposed to question and force governments to justify every so-called health measure that impeded our civil liberties. Instead, you did the opposite and became complicit.
You have well and truly stuffed this.
THE MOCKER
The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials. He is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behaviour.
Birdcat is Dashcat?
Exactly what I have pointed out several times mt.
The US in general stopped with stay at home orders in June 2020. MISSISSIPPI hasn’t had stay at home orders since may 2020.
Despite widespread covid outbreaks Americans seem to be following a broadly personal responsibility model in the here and now.
But you know; Gotcha!
I had to smile at that.
In Wyndham’s book, the place of refuge and acceptance was…New Zealand. 😀
but you also said …
is this one of those mutually exclusive thingies where only one can be true?
Thanks TopEnder.
I had forgotten Mrs FitzSimian’s “open letter” bemoaning that the great unwashed had failed to vote Chloe (and Bill) into the Lodge.
And…her heartrending reports of the Paris terrorist attacks…from her hotel room.
An arrondissement away.
On the spot reporting…from the rear.
There’s an article in a pretty partisan publication showing the FDA buried a report showing that there was no statistical difference between schools that had mask mandates & those that did not.
If it gets picked up by less partisan group, no doubt we’ll be seeing it everywhere, especially Tucker.
Was she (I certainly suspect her husband, Pirate Pete) among that loft band of the intelligentsia who pleaded with Hugo Chavez to come and teach our benighted* leaders how to really run a country?
*Our leaders are benightedly ignorant, but those elevated souls had taken it into their heads Chavez could fix the few things our leaders had to a small degree got right.
Hmm…Kabul about to erupt?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-state-department-warns-us-nationals-avoid-traveling-kabul-airport-disperse-airport-grounds-immediately/
Great piece by the Mocker in the Paywallian – notable because he’s in a tiny minority among journalists, 99% per cent of whom have become cheerleaders for Big Government and the pig state jackboot tactics of its Stasi state police forces.
They wouldn’t know what “speaking truth to power” was if it jumped up and bit them on the fanny.
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Was it Executive Orders by Tom Clancy where a bunch of elites were left to fend for themselves in the Amazon?
Quick the wet dream.
This little microcosm perfectly reflects the whole. Everyone must obey by the rules, except the anointed ones, who can not only ignore the rules but do not have to justify doing so.
And so it is for all bugmen/marxist organisations, one rule for thee, another rule for me.
Quite, not quick.
Feeltheburn,
It was Rainbow Six, and it was a bunch of green oligarchs. Much reminding me of Soros and Gates.
Isn’t the Mississippi State renowned for its Mississippi Delta?
Dinesh D’Souza Published August 24, 2021
https://rumble.com/vln3jf-trump-just-released-devastating-new-ad-that-will-end-bidens-whole-career.html
rmcs_1517, 1 day ago
Can we please have the election this November? At this rate we won’t make it to 2024.
You need to dip a flannel in ice-cold water and deal with that problem you’ve got.
Lie.
Pigs!
Pure evil! 😀 😛
Tried to pick people with health or legal responsibilities in WA & feds.
Scotty doesnt have an email address in the “contacts” page…
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Just a short note from a health professional (Paramedic)
The actions of the various state and Federal governments appear to be at serious risk of voiding a key plank of medical ethics.
https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/sq20-030_-_fact_sheet_-_informed_consent_-_nsqhs-8.9a.pdf
Consent depends on the informed decision by a patient to undertake a medical procedure free from undue influence.
By crossing the line from testing & restricting individuals for health reasons to doing so to “encourage” uptake of vaccines I believe there is a serious case to be made that individuals are not consenting in a legal way.
By effectively punishing individuals by restricting their movement or ability to hold a job based on them undergoing a medical procedure there can be no question consent is no longer free from undue influence.
I would sincerely ask this question is raised with your relevant legal and medical ethics advisors. If you could forward any reply relating to the legal or ethical issues it would be appreciated.
The ability to make personal decisions related to medical interventions free from undue influence is a well established tenet in the health system and in law. Violations of this have been viewed extremely dimly by courts in the past.
Sancho Panzer says:
August 26, 2021 at 4:49 pm
feelthebernsays:
August 26, 2021 at 4:37 pm
You need to dip a flannel in ice-cold water and deal with that problem you’ve got.
Nah – it’s the blood clots – the “problem” will turn black and drop off in a few days….
VIDEO: Why Did People Cheer the Destruction of OnlyFans?
https://www.lotuseaters.com/video-why-did-people-cheer-the-destruction-of-onlyfans-25-08-21
Published 25th Aug
Carl explores some of the reasons the internet erupted in cheers when OnlyFans revealed it would no longer host pornographic content.
Interesting to see the talifucks believe in climate change as they announced in a recent press release, covered in blood and entrails. That should tell us all we need to know about alarmism.
In renewables, the flip side of this idiocy is that recently for 25 seconds renewables produced more electricity then fossils. This was reported with great acclaim in this bit of toilet paper:
https://esdnews.com.au/solar-outperforms-coal-for-fleeting-moment/
A couple of points: from the article:
The milestone moment lasted for only a few minutes, as low demand and sunny skies on Sunday meant the contribution from coal dropped to a low of 9,315MW just after noon, while solar provided the majority share with 9,427MW.
Coal didn’t drop at all: the basis of the grid now is if renewables are producing power they get preference to sell that already subsidised power to the grid. At this ideal point renewables produced 9427MM from an installed capacity of nearly 30000MW. Coal was producing all of its 30000MW of installed power but had to cut back to 9315MW because of what the renewables were producing with demand being only 9315+9427=18742MW.
Demand peaks at >30000MW which renewables can never support..
Unlike more nimble solar and wind producers, coal generators are particularly hurt when prices turn negative. The costs associated with shutting down and restarting coal generators are prohibitive, meaning operators will choose to keep running even at a loss.
Renewables are not nimble because they are weather dependent. If there is no wind or sun they’re as nimble as a corpse.
Prices only turn negative because renewables overproduce when demand is at its lowest, the middle of the day. And coal producers are hurt because renewables get huge subsidies and preferential treatment of supply plus coal has to pay direct to renewables Large-Scale Generation Certificates (LGC), mandated under the RET. These certificates average $85 per MWh2 that the renewables actually produce. So renewables get paid twice: firstly for the power they do produce, about 20% of the time unpredictably; plus $85MWh2 from the coal producers. The coal producers only get paid for what they do sell after the renewables get first preference (the coal plants have to continue to produce to back up the renewables during these periods effectively for nothing plus pay the renewables).
Too many email links…
Sent this to about 10 pollies, most in the state/fed legal and health departments.
Just a short note from a health professional (Paramedic)
The actions of the various state and Federal governments appear to be at serious risk of voiding a key plank of medical ethics.
https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/sq20-030_-_fact_sheet_-_informed_consent_-_nsqhs-8.9a.pdf
Consent depends on the informed decision by a patient to undertake a medical procedure free from undue influence.
By crossing the line from testing & restricting individuals for health reasons to doing so to “encourage” uptake of vaccines I believe there is a serious case to be made that individuals are not consenting in a legal way.
By effectively punishing individuals by restricting their movement or ability to hold a job based on them undergoing a medical procedure there can be no question consent is no longer free from undue influence.
I would sincerely ask this question is raised with your relevant legal and medical ethics advisors. If you could forward any reply relating to the legal or ethical issues it would be appreciated.
The ability to make personal decisions related to medical interventions free from undue influence is a well established tenet in the health system and in law. Violations of this have been viewed extremely dimly by courts in the past.
See if I get anything other than a fob off from any of them.
feelthebernsays:
August 26, 2021 at 4:37 pm
Was it Executive Orders by Tom Clancy where a bunch of elites were left to fend for themselves in the Amazon?
Quick the wet dream.
Rainbow Six (not with the current use of rainbow).
You see The Mocker has to remain anonymous though.
VIDEO: The Personal Is Political
https://www.lotuseaters.com/video-the-personal-is-political-12-08-21
What does it mean when someone says “the personal is political”?
So TFM you are allowed to make a decision to have the medical profession kill you, but not to have a jab?
Struth, any word if the truckers are going to come to our rescue? It’s pretty obvious that the lawyers and civil liberties activists won’t.
Where did you see that Paris story, Woolfe?
What can you do to punch back?
Covid Lies Growing Faster than Cases
Posted on August 26, 2021 by Adam D
https://catallaxy-files.com/covid-lies-growing-faster-than-cases/#comments
Calli hover over it, it is a twitter link
Woolfe
I did think of the euthanasia laws but thought it better to keep it simple and on one point.
Coerced consent is not consent.
Thats really basic stuff for medics and lawyers.
And there is enormous reams of case law around the issues.
If i were an enterprising young ambulance chaser Id find myself someone who had a side effect and run the claim they felt they were pressured into having the jab because they needed to keep their job/ wanted travel restrictions to be over.
And if I really hit the jackpot they would be an SPC worker so there was a definite “lose your job or get the jab” coercion.
Even a signed consent form is worthless if an individual was pressured into signing it.
“Oh, readers, the chaos and the mayhem, the tragedy, is beyond description. People rushing to and fro but without purpose, as if trying to feel busy so they don’t have to feel helpless. Women and men openly crying. Here there is a man energetically barking orders that no one is listening to. There a man with an unearthly, detached, perhaps robotic calm moving among the carnage softly tabulating minutiae in his head. It is a maelstrom of noise, of odour, and of desperation.
“A wretched sight.
“But if they can’t make me a decent ham and tomato on baguette then how can I be expected to do my report?”
Guest Post: thefrollickingmole – The poor white ants we will always have with us
Posted on August 26, 2021 by Adam D
https://catallaxy-files.com/guest-post-thefrollickingmole-the-poor-white-ants-we-will-always-have-with-us/
Thanks Woolfe.
A thing of beauty.
Mother Lodesays:
August 26, 2021 at 5:39 pm
Sooo good!
Great to see Bushie here this morning.
Is Gez here, too?
I love reading all the farmers’ reports on their growing seasons, and their predictions weather-wise* for the next few months.
*Hoping for another La Nina. The Bom is hinting at it. Please let it be.
politics (with a small p) is for the most part about power. refer to Foucault et al
your phrase implies other bastards want power over your personal
…as it ever was
Thanks for this Steve –
Going to ask a law prof to write a guest post about just this; will see what happens.
Fifty cents on ‘Old Tom Parr’ being bird please bookmaker.
I grew up with the idea that the Crown was benign. Turns out it’s not at all.
We are subjects not citizens. I don’t believe the wearer or would be wearers of the crown or representatives of the crown in Australia have said anything about the state’s vicious attack on subjects.
Credlin, Credlin, Credlin. Repeat after me – Paul Kelly is a moron and does not deserve being on television.
Sorry Matrix, I should have box quoted it –
It was the subheading of the video, not my question.
I get that most here would understand it, but the video’s worth watching for a few key points Carl Benjamin makes, in particular the clip of Leftist content creator, Linsey Ellis, being visibly distressed because of being turned against by her own audience for unthinkingly committing some crime against Leftism by speaking personally & not politically.
“The Knitting Women” never believe it could happen to them, until it does.
worst dad ever
Suggestion: Reverend Peter Kurti, Anglican Priest who is a senior research fellow at the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney and adjunct associate professor of law at the University of Notre Dame Australia.
THE IMPOSSIBLE GOAL OF “COVID ZERO”
by Peter Kurti
8 . 25 . 21
Dave from X22 seems to be a bit more plausible today…..
https://rumble.com/vloq0k-ep.-2561b-defcon-1-us-government-relocated-fire-and-fury-owl.html
I grew up with the idea that the Crown was benign. Turns out it’s not at all.
We are subjects not citizens. I don’t believe the wearer or would be wearers of the crown or representatives of the crown in Australia have said anything about the state’s vicious attack on subjects.
We’ve spent the best part of 800 years curtailing the monarchy’s power. We can’t then complain that the Crown has been neutered.
Presciently, however, when the Australia Acts were being drafted and passed in 1986, HM refused to be placed in the position of being bound by state Premier’s advice, on the ground that such advice may be faulty.
HM thereby reserved for the Crown the prerogative of having some – at least – input into state affairs.
But if she did provide such input, rest assured, we would not hear of it until well after the fact, if at all.
always like seeing these
The Rage @JiveBoy
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Financial Independence – Retire Early
https://youtu.be/4IJrOk3H12s
The Prince of Wales talks about ‘a game-changing green transition.’ Not about liberty. A dangerous anachronism. Fuck off royals.
We’ve spent the best part of 800 years curtailing the monarchy’s power.
yes and now it’s siding with the left to bring back feudalism
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I told you so.
Anyone who thought this kraut Royal family was on the side of the people, was deluded.
Just checking: Is Roberts-Smith still having to clear his name for alleged crimes in a country where the West has just abandoned people to the Taliban? The dame Taliban that kills men who talked to Australian forces – and their families, or women who flash an ankle or let it slip that they can read?
Who rape even dead women?
Just curious.
Same Taliban.
Flaking Auto-corrupt.
Anyone who thought this kraut Royal family was on the side of the people, was deluded.
well they were quite good at pretending to but I think they’ve decided it’s no longer necessary to pretend. ‘Rather uninteresting and rather unpleasant people’ was one description which I think might be correct.
Is Roberts-Smith still having to clear his name for alleged crimes in a country where the West has just abandoned people to the Taliban?
This is a show prosecution designed to eliminate the ideal of the ideal of the bronzed Anzac. Brought to you by the Canbra lesbian pubic disservice establishment.
wokeism is a self policing religion. The video is very good and worth watching.
One’s woke purity is always in question, the gulag is always a mere slip away. Classic fascism.
Given that the system is writing to soldiers formerly accused of war crimes to inform them that there isn’t the evidence for a prosecution, where does his case go from here?
bugmen can be biologically male or female, but they are sexless. Every morning they put on their underwear and it has an attached innie or an outie.
They infest the institutions like a plague of locusts, devouring and turning everything to shit.
Remember that advertisement encouraging graduates to join foreign affairies? I though it was a spoof but it was deadly serious. The paleo bananna bread one.
Liberal Party never had a real job true blue monarchist and defender of Scott Morrison’s war Keynesianism CUCK LORD says:
No way! We love Queen Elizabeth! Scott Morrison’s been great, even if Ray Hadley has outsmarted him too many times! I love the flag too! Even if it isn’t very original, other, even older Australian flags look better and it breaks all kinds of design rules! We just have to slowly work our way back to our privileges we call freedoms and rights and the economy can bounce back over 12-18 months after another 12-14 weeks of lockdown! We have to accept vaccine passports as the new normal.
What kind of icky people want tax cuts, medical privacy, constitutional law to be followed literally, nationalism and a republic?
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Jokes aside, there are possibly millions of people here in Australia who believe the above garbage fire.
BRS was given a license to kill by the Government. The Government now wants to throw him in gaol for using it.
If the Queen did that to 007, she would be in the “Tower of London”.
And deservedly so.
Well dun BoN .. having read a lot of your bird posts I discovered my youngest daughter, working from home, has taken to feeding several magpies .. she was giving them bread-crumbs but I told her to try mince as you’ve mentioned they like it …..
Anyway, she gave it a go and now they are hopping onto her arm for the daily tidbits .. she is over the moon .. LOL!
Reminds me of this……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
I for one welcome our new naked pipe smoking Eldritch overlords.
https://www.facebook.com/statistsgetoutreee/
LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams
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Yessss!! If you get the vaccine you might be able to go an cut your hair and get your nails done!
If we all just get vaccinated, mummy Gladys will let us outside to play. Inject yourself in exchange for government approved tidbits of freedom!
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Can’t wait to import a totally legitimate Humvee from Afghanistan
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[And this is why I can’t go full libertarian. When the only thing stopping people from defacing national landmarks is their capital, people are gonna deface our national landmarks. Nothing is sacred. Everything is open. Our culture and ethnicity, who cares? Not good.]
They shouldn’t let disgusting non-anarchist freaks have a right of reply.
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Has the IPA or CIS said or done anything about mask and vaccine mandates?
You remind me of the time not long ago when the word, “Breeder”, was thrown around like the worst, most damning thing anyone could be called.
That along with publicly cheering the ‘right’ to Full Term ‘abortion’ on demand & those babies being dissected for their commercially traded parts, and the grotesque things people do to themselves that we’re all expected to approve of & most do … I just keep seeing the worst scenes of “Apocalypto” – how are we better, when we know better and can do better, yet choose to regress to no better than this –
sacrifice scene apocalypto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8WqEyXIyc
Not specifically from what I see.
https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/articles/protesting-harsh-restrictions-doesnt-necessarily-make-you-an-anarchist/
Still a good argument.
…and inadvertadly yes.
https://ipa.org.au/research/rights-and-freedoms/australia-is-at-breaking-point
They haven’t written anything specifically. The mask mandates piss me off, but I can’t fault their big picture approach.
CIS – most concerned about long term economic damage. IPA – have been hammering away the falsehoods about lockdowns.
“dover0beachsays:
August 26, 2021 at 8:12 pm
Has the IPA or CIS said or done anything about mask and vaccine mandates?”
Funny you mention that DB…because I’ve been thinking about the IPA over the last few days. I’m not aware of either organisation making any public pronouncements condemning mask and vaccine mandates. I’m still a member of the CIS and haven’t received anything. I’m no longer a member of the IPA but I have noticed John Roskam of the IPA has finally grown some spine and is talking about on Sky how lockdowns need to end and he’s also talked about the current woeful state of the Liberal party…acknowledging the fact that the party no longer speaks up about core Liberal party values…such as free speech and religious freedom…however it is worth remembering that the IPA stood by and said nothing when Bettina Arndt was lynched last year. But I suspect Roskam is, like Newman, Ruddock and others, thoroughly disenchanted by Morrison and the Liberals…..and why wouldn’t they be…the party, federally and in every state, is a a joke.
“That along with publicly cheering the ‘right’ to Full Term ‘abortion’ on demand & those babies being dissected for their commercially traded parts, and the grotesque things people do to themselves that we’re all expected to approve of & most do … I just keep seeing the worst scenes of “Apocalypto” – how are we better, when we know better and can do better, yet choose to regress to no better than this –”
Mrs Nong, spare us your ridiculous ravings. Isn’t it your bedtime?
Hmmm….are the bikers going to join the truckies?
With the worldwide coverage Australia has been getting, it seems that the Aussie politicians might be getting a bit more attention than they bargained for.
Throw in farmers with their tractors and utes, and the lockdown will be finished in a weekend. Over and done with.