Open Thread – Tues 14 Sept 2021


Battle of Tours, Charles de Steuben, 1837.

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Motelier
Motelier
September 15, 2021 10:31 pm

News Limited running this in all its news web sites:

Meet POTUS Harris?

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 15, 2021 10:32 pm

looks like it’s a eureka stockade kind of week-end then

MT., my Dad said today that he’s noticed much rage in the community and even made a comment along those lines. Though he wasn’t making it in relation to the weekend – it was more a general comment – the fact he made it at all was significant.

Arky
September 15, 2021 10:37 pm

Pedro the Loafersays:
September 15, 2021 at 10:01 pm
I have zero military experience but even I can work out if the VicPol chief has broadcast his plans to counter any possible protest action in the Melbourne CBD, then just move the protest to Luna Park, Brighton Beach or somewhere similar.

Lots of black clad helmeted Plod twiddling their thumbs in Spring St while the plebs are partying on The Esplanade.

..
They seem mostly worried about protecting Spring Street.
As an ex- Melbourne taxi driver I can say they can control ingress and egress to/ from the CBD fairly easily to the South due to the Yarra, there are limited numbers of crossings. What they would want to watch out for was a meeting place to the North, say the Exhibition buildings, which would allow easy dispersal to the North afterwards, and access to both East and West via Bell street or the Ring road and put the majority of coppers preparing for a CBD protest in the wrong place.
So, that’s my free advice to the Vicpol.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2021 10:39 pm

Biden or Milley?

I wouldn’t think removing the general would be worth huge fuss among allies.

And let’s face it, Biden is rooted.
Interesting with the California recall how federal issues ( Afghanistan) don’t seem to have cost the Dems a single vote.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2021 10:42 pm

It’s a massive opportunity Patton’s given them. In my humble view.

A perfect opportunity for an asymmetric response.
But I don’t think the organisers I know of are capable of mobilising that.

MatrixTransform
September 15, 2021 10:46 pm

the fact he made it at all was significant.

hmm,
I hope he’s alluding to the general sentiment at punitive and idiotic over-regulation
and not the after-math

no … not the dead 20-odd diggers and 1/2 dozen polis

I mean, that after a royal commission, it was all just overturned anyway because it was always pointless bullshit from conception.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 15, 2021 10:47 pm

I hope he’s alluding to the general sentiment at punitive and idiotic over-regulation
and not the after-math

+1

JC
JC
September 15, 2021 10:48 pm

Anyone heard General Milley talk? No kidding , he sounds as thick as a brick. He appears to be really fucking stupid.

MatrixTransform
September 15, 2021 10:54 pm

the organisers I know

you know organisers?

… you should ring Crime Stoppers

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 15, 2021 10:56 pm

I don’t like him, JC, but he doesn’t *sound* stupid to me. Lots of people can’t talk coherently, including some who are paid highly to talk in public. He’s a step above that very low benchmark as a public speaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OrXVFG1L7I

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2021 11:01 pm

Submarine contract?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2021 11:02 pm

Organisers = PM chatter on social media.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2021 11:14 pm

Senior federal ministers and their opposition counterparts were involved in top-secret talks in Canberra on Wednesday ahead of a major international announcement on Thursday morning.

Looks like the Frog-sub contract is in jeopardy. To be replaced by US nuclear boats with some sort of UK involvement.

Apparently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2021 11:16 pm

That is my guess Faustus.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 15, 2021 11:18 pm

But what about Pahn-jerbs for SA?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 15, 2021 11:21 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
September 15, 2021 at 11:01 pm
Submarine contract?

Doubt it – that submarine contract was made to ensure our defences are weak against the CCP.
Do you think General Milley is the only traitor in the West??

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2021 11:30 pm

Miserable Ghost will be inconsolably miserable. Pyned, in fact.

Or, as les Grenouilles might say, peiné .

MatrixTransform
September 15, 2021 11:34 pm

with Australia and UK Airstrip One

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 12:33 am

Cut the Feed! Why White House Video Stream Stopped Just as Biden Started to Speak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jlGe145S3A

Sep 16, 2021
Bill Whittle

Idaho Sen. James Risch pressed Secretary of State Anthony Blinken during a foreign relations committee hearing about who’s cutting off President Biden’s video while he’s speaking. He got no answer. We have the clip, and several explanations as to why the video stream might stop Biden in mid-sentence. It opens another question about whether someone else steers the ship of state.

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 12:37 am

Victoria Police Seize Public Transport Network to Prevent Protests in Melbourne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkqQt6uOiYA

Sep 15, 2021
Socialist Republic of Victoria

Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police Shane Patton describes his plan to seize the public transport network to prevent protests in Melbourne this weekend.

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 12:55 am

These people are ridiculous. “Othering” and demonising in the here and now, weeping for the past.

Spoken without a scintilla of irony.

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 1:04 am

mh says:
September 16, 2021 at 12:09 am
Jenny Beth Martin
@jennybethm

BREAKING: Hudson mayor demands all school board members resign or face possible criminal charges over high school course material that he said a judge called “child pornography.” “I’m going to give you a simple choice: You either choose to resign or you will be charged.”

https://twitter.com/jennybethm/status/1437911039576875008?s=20

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 1:08 am

Tim Pool Calls Out Quillette For DEFENDING Australia’s Insanely Tyrannical Covid Camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAdbVov6MSs

Sep 15, 2021
Timcast IRL

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Dan Hollaway, US Army veteran and host/managing director of Drinkin’ Bros and American Party podcasts, to criticize Claire Lehman of Quillette’s choice to defend Australia’s insanely tyrannical lockdown camps.

srr
srr
September 16, 2021 1:41 am

Andrew Neil Leaves GB News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42BrwtDsPY

Sep 16, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

johanna
johanna
September 16, 2021 1:46 am

The big announcement – bye bye French subs, hello new defence agreement with US and UK.

johanna
johanna
September 16, 2021 2:09 am

Tom, the racing hierarchy has really got it in for your girl Jamie Kah:

She pleaded not guilty to charges of lying to stewards about who attended the gathering, which had breached Victoria’s coronavirus protocols and Melbourne’s night-time curfew.

RV found the 25-year-old “wilfully” omitted details about the guest list.

Kah’s punishment will be handed down on Friday morning.

RV has suggested she receive a two-month ban on top of her existing sanction.

Another leg-up for her competitors and certain owners, methinks. The original punishment was OTT, now they are having a second go.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 16, 2021 3:06 am

Minnesota’s Supreme Court has overturned the murder conviction of rookie Minneapolis cop Mohamed Noor on a legal technicality and ordered his sentence to be reduced, four years after he shot dead Australian-American woman Justine Damond outside her home. 

The court upheld Noor’s manslaughter conviction and ordered him to be resentenced, agreeing with his attorneys on a technicality that the specific wording of the ‘depraved mind’ murder charge he was convicted of.  

He is currently two years into a 12.5 year sentence. It’s unclear how much his sentence will be lowered by, but it is likely to be less than the ten years he was facing. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9994221/Minnesota-court-orders-former-officer-resentenced-Australian-womans-shooting-death.html 

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 16, 2021 3:09 am

The Prime Minister is set to make an urgent announcement on Thursday morning about a major international security initiative to counter the rise of China.\

After a series of secret late-night briefings, Scott Morrison is poised to divulge details on the future of the submarine program amid reports Australia will make the switch to nuclear-powered subs with help from the UK and US.

The new partnership between the long-time allies is also being announced by US President Joe Biden at 5pm local time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9993745/Scott-Morrison-make-urgent-announcement-major-international-security-issue-involving-UK.html

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:01 am

Johannes Leak needs explanation.

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 4:15 am

Ben Garrison. Brilliant.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 4:16 am

That’s good Garrison.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 4:17 am

VicPol hinting at using water cannons and permanent dye on protestors.

It’s official, Victoria is Algeria.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 4:59 am

Michael Malice
@michaelmalice
Traditional Muslim women are more accepting of people walking outside without a face covering than urban white women are.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 5:05 am

A few years ago Norm Macdonald said on an interview that he had a lot of time for people who top themselves privately once they hit the point of no return with cancer, because they’re not looking for attention and don’t suck up hospital resources.

I wonder if there’s more to his exit then we’re being told.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 5:12 am

Let me get this right.
After seeing the US military admit they no longer believe in the chain of command & will collude with their biggest strategic rival…Australia will jump further into bed with the US military to counter their biggest strategic rival.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 5:25 am

Greg Sheridan’s column in the Oz today begs the question.
Has he suffered a brain injury?

will
will
September 16, 2021 5:50 am
will
will
September 16, 2021 5:52 am
johanna
johanna
September 16, 2021 6:08 am

Before people start excitedly telling us about the new US/UK/AUS deal, it was flagged here at 1.46 am.

Cool your jets, newsbreakers.

johanna
johanna
September 16, 2021 6:09 am

Tom, did you see my comment about Jamie?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 6:29 am

That’s good Garrison.

Oh yes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 6:31 am

More superfluous proof that ‘news’ anchors are idiots.

Stefanovic the Younger on Skah just opined that Glenn McGrath would have made a great Test captain.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 16, 2021 6:33 am

Johannes Leak needs explanation.

Milley needs a court, a judge and a long walk.

calli
calli
September 16, 2021 6:39 am

Bother. I just reported your Leak ‘toon, Tom. Sorry.

calli
calli
September 16, 2021 6:43 am

I’m glad Providence supplied the page podium for my admission of error and desire for grace and humility.

It’s another day, and I still need both. Probably will tomorrow too.

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:44 am
rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:46 am
rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:47 am
rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:49 am
rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:55 am
rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:57 am

Don’t worry calli.
Not knowing that the death of some TV host’s parent was old news is not a hanging offence and the questions you posed were valid.

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 6:58 am

Not exactly a Roger Moore moment.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:00 am

Major defence announcement in the next minute or two.

Inside running tells me the SASR will be banned, and replaced with squadrons of choreographed health professionals providing fashion and home improvement advice in falsetto.

calli
calli
September 16, 2021 7:04 am

Not exactly a Roger Moore moment.

😀 He did come to mind. Hope he’s feeling a bit better, he was poorly.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:11 am

I’m sure Roger’s fine.

He’s just keeping to himself.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:15 am

Very comforting to see the President of the United States of America knows the names of his allied countries’ leaders, and has no need to look down at his notes to remind himself who they are.

Oh. Hang on.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 7:15 am

US subs?
That’s buggered Brokeback Dan’s Chinese cooperation deal.
They were going to send their navy to us for free.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 16, 2021 7:15 am

He’s just keeping to himself.

Composed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 7:16 am

I’m sure Roger’s fine.

He’s just keeping to himself.

Less is Moore.

sfw
sfw
September 16, 2021 7:18 am

Someone posted upthread about the UAP finding 200+ good candidates for the next election. I suggest that many of you should join and nominate yourselves, seriously. Clive may not be palatable to many of you but he has the deep pockets that a new party needs and the membership is growing fast. If enough decent people join he can be kept on a leash and even if a few candidates got up it would be a big deal. I’m nominating, I’m getting over my recent downer and I think it was Arky who said get out there and fight, so I will try. The LDP are good but low energy and lack resources, as far as I can see the UAP is the way to go.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 7:19 am

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Imagine if, in 2011, a right-wing General called Gaddafi and said: “Obama wants to bomb your country and usher in regime change against you even though the House voted *against* its authorization. I give you my word I’ll let you know what he’s planning & stop him from bombing.”
10:49 PM · Sep 15, 2021·

Motelier
Motelier
September 16, 2021 7:19 am

Why have UnZud and tha Canooks been left out?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:22 am

That’s buggered Brokeback Dan’s Chinese cooperation deal.

Shit. I’d forgotten about that. Pure, bonus gold. Andrews will be on the horn right now to Beijing apologising. Stand by for another mystery set of injuries.

They were going to send their navy to us for free.

Hahahaaaa. Solid.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 16, 2021 7:23 am

Mote, you are a very funny man!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:28 am

Massive smack in the chops, delivered by the Feds, to recalcitrant mouthy Premiers Andrews and Whatsisname (the SA one), the up-until-just-now recipient of mucho submarine jobs and cash.

Don’t think for one moment there isn’t an element of ‘you wanna run with the big dogs, do ya?’ from Morrison, even if it’s just a consequential benefit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 16, 2021 7:31 am

Less is Moore.

You can never too much Moore.

James Bond EXCLUSIVE: ‘I was a Bond girl at 16’ – Caroline Munro’s incredible memories (Express, 15 Sep)

JAMES BOND girl Caroline Munro famously co-starred opposite Roger Moore in The Spy Who Loved Me, but actually debuted as a Bond girl at the age of 16 in the original Casino Royale.

Munro added: “I think we were all on it for about four weeks as extras, so it was great. What a lovely experience.

These days I suspect working on a Bond fillum would be a drearily woke experience.

Motelier
Motelier
September 16, 2021 7:32 am

I can’t wait for the cutting-edge analysis of these events by the “smartest” PM we ever had, Malcolm Turnbull.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 16, 2021 7:36 am

In other Submarine news:

S.Korea says it successfully tests submarine-launched ballistic missile

SEOUL, Sept 15 (Reuters) – South Korea successfully tested a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) on Wednesday, becoming the first country without nuclear weapons to develop such a system as it aims to better counter North Korea’s growing capabilities.

Yes indeed. A SLBM seems an expensive way to develop the capability to drop a couple of tonnes of HE on an adversary with a coastline.

Presumably the parts of S Korea’s bomb-in-the-basement are all laid out neatly on the assembly bench.

More calculations for Emperor Xi.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:38 am

I can’t wait for the cutting-edge analysis of these events by the “smartest” PM we ever had, Malcolm Turnbull.

Said analysis will, potentially at least, be great.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 16, 2021 7:38 am

sfw-
Don’t take the golden bait from Palmer. UAP might be minted, but it is a reactive party, and steered by a man who leads with his credit card. To mix metapophors, it’s a top-heavy organization, led by an airhead, and I don’t think there’s any depth.
Join LDP. Get in at the ground floor, we’ll get there with a bit of patience.

Crossie
Crossie
September 16, 2021 7:40 am

feelthebern says:
September 16, 2021 at 5:25 am
Greg Sheridan’s column in the Oz today begs the question.
Has he suffered a brain injury?

Did he again parade his ignorance before the world like he did last night on Andrew Bolt’s show?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 16, 2021 7:40 am

Plus, I want Clive to be free and unencumbered by an ungainly membership roll, to prosecute Marx McClown and get the high court to tear up the Iron Ore processing amendment act (“Get Palmer”), in the leadup to the next election.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 7:51 am

Joe Burns update, and on the subject of potential greatness:

Opened the batting for Northern Suburbs against Ipswich in Brisvegas Premier Cricket.

Caught and bowled. 0. Balls faced – 2.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 16, 2021 7:52 am

Massive smack in the chops, delivered by the Feds …

For a moment I thought the tinnitus had upped a couple of dBs.
But no, it was the whining from South Australia.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 7:58 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 16, 2021 at 7:31 am
Less is Moore.
You can never too much Moore.

I heard the Moore’s are in Spain.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 16, 2021 7:59 am

In Polished Diplomatic Pivot news:

Government sources say Mr Morrison tried unsuccessfully to line up a phone call with French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday, but it has now been instead scheduled for Thursday.

Awkward.

Bongjoor Mr Le President. Look, you might have read the news…

Entropy
Entropy
September 16, 2021 8:09 am

sfw says:
September 16, 2021 at 7:18 am
Someone posted upthread about the UAP finding 200+ good candidates for the next election. I suggest that many of you should join and nominate yourselves, seriously. Clive may not be palatable to many of you

Definitely not palatable. The whole reason for the existence of Clive’s party is that Campbell Newman would not agree to special legislation to give his companies, and his companies only, a sweet ride to rapid development. Supporting Palmer means supporting that sort of behaviour and is really quite contemptible.

Joanna
Joanna
September 16, 2021 8:09 am

VicPol hinting at using water cannons and permanent dye on protestors.

I’m buying myself a burqa. I get to stay clean, and can scream ‘racist’ if Vicpol come anywhere near me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 8:09 am

Just looked on Gumtree. Some guy called Malcolm is trying to sell some submarine plans. He reckons they are potentially great.

miltonf
miltonf
September 16, 2021 8:09 am

UAP is certainly a good name- sums up what a political party should be about. Sure I don’t really trust Palmer but if he’s running on no lockups, an end to this political terrorism I’ll vote for them.

Entropy
Entropy
September 16, 2021 8:10 am

Government sources say Mr Morrison tried unsuccessfully to line up a phone call with French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday, but it has now been instead scheduled for Thursday.
Awkward

Merde!

Entropy
Entropy
September 16, 2021 8:11 am

No matter what snake oil Palmer pretends to sell you, it is always about Clive, the last of the white shoe brigade.

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 8:11 am

Tom, did you see my comment about Jamie?

Yes, Johanna. I’m hoping Justice John Bowman, as he mostly did with jockey Mark Zahra, will reject any extra time penalty for Kah on top of the mad three-months ban she has already received from Racing Victoria, which is sucking up to Dan Andrews like a xoquette so he will permit crowds at the Spring racing carnival.

Because of the three-months ban, RV is crucifying Kah financially:

Kah’s Airbnb ban has cost her up to $1 million: barrister
Jamie Kah’s barrister has launched an impassioned plea for the Victorian Racing Tribunal to wholly suspend its penalty for the star jockey misleading stewards during the Mornington Airbnb probe.
Barrister Damian Sheales said Kah, who has been through “enough” humiliation, faces the potential of a “world record” penalty for the Covid-19 breach, having lost fancied Cups and Cox Plate rides alone.

I think her barrister’s estimate of her income loss is conservative.

And I can tell you I have totally lost interest in racing since she was rubbed out for the entirely of racing’s annual prime time.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 8:13 am

Supporting Palmer means supporting that sort of behaviour and is really quite contemptible.

Contemptible has become a relative term these days.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 16, 2021 8:15 am

Has he suffered a brain injury?

I believe he may be trying to type having gone blind and with hair palms.

I am not a doctor so I am not sure what those might be symptoms of.

duncanm
duncanm
September 16, 2021 8:17 am

Wake to the joyous news of nuclear subs.

Strange world indeed!

miltonf
miltonf
September 16, 2021 8:20 am

Sheridan always was a lightweight. Very keen an wars he doesn’t have to fight. As for Milley- yet another fucking arts graduate.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 8:20 am

Nuclear subs but Scummo assured the media that we won’t be developing a nuclear industry.
No need of course as we run on pure bullshit.

Indolent
Indolent
September 16, 2021 8:21 am

Johannes Leak needs explanation.

And here it is

Inevitable, isn’t it? Blame Trump for Milley’s treason.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 16, 2021 8:21 am

Live SpaceX launch on now

http://www.spacex.com

4 people to orbit for 3 days in a Dragon 2. Private mission. There is some good in the world

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 16, 2021 8:25 am

Sacré bleu!
La Belle France has been ‘stabbed in the back’ by Perfidious Albion and les Amercains according to some former ambassador.
Let’s hope Scummo offers a dipping sauce with that bag of dicks.

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 8:25 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 16, 2021 8:27 am

Thanks for the heads up, Johanna.

Being in bed dreaming of plans for world domination I was unavailable to read the news at 1:46.

Nuke subs? Fantastic!

Interesting that NZ is not included. Not that they would have brought anything to the pact that Australia didn’t offer (junior partnership and ports) but I suppose the investment by Australia was a worthy token of earnestness.

Might even give us a fledgling nuclear competence that could one day grow into power stations. Get Australians used to nukes and they will clamour for nuclear power when the wind lulls and the lights go out, or the sun obscured and the aircon carks.

I will Dutton was behind this. Not so bad at defence but he can shove his Covid ideas where the sun don’t shine. (There may be occasional wind but siting turbines would be problematic.)

Crossie
Crossie
September 16, 2021 8:27 am

I heard the Moore’s are in Spain.

Gez, they are no moor.

Cassie of Sydney
September 16, 2021 8:31 am

“Supporting Palmer means supporting that sort of behaviour and is really quite contemptible.”

Yes…but whilst we’re measuring the “contemptible” barometer, I think Morrison is contemptible. I think the behaviour of all major parties…..Liberals, Labor, Nationals and Greens over the last twenty years has actually been contemptible. Actually, it’s been despicable.

Given what’s happening to this country….no politician and no political party in this country passes the “purity test”. I have reservations and apprehensions about Palmer primarily because of the way he behaved from 2013 to 2016 however I understand why Kelly has gone with him…..money, money, money.

Oh and whilst we’re on the subject of “contemptible”, I Morrison’s siding with Labor and the Greens against his own is “contemptible”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 16, 2021 8:32 am

JCsays:
September 15, 2021 at 10:48 pm
Anyone heard General Milley talk? No kidding , he sounds as thick as a brick. He appears to be really fucking stupid.

I wonder what promotions and plum postings he received under Obummer?

Crossie
Crossie
September 16, 2021 8:33 am

Indolent says:
September 16, 2021 at 8:21 am
Johannes Leak needs explanation.

And here it is

Inevitable, isn’t it? Blame Trump for Milley’s treason.

I didn’t think it needed any explanation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 8:36 am

Fat Clive is not the answer.

Crossie
Crossie
September 16, 2021 8:36 am

Oh and whilst we’re on the subject of “contemptible”, I Morrison’s siding with Labor and the Greens against his own is “contemptible”.

Cassie, just as Turnbull sided with KRudd against his own party on renewables.

jupes
jupes
September 16, 2021 8:37 am

Nuclear subs but Scummo assured the media that we won’t be developing a nuclear industry.
No need of course as we run on pure bullshit.

It’s funny because it’s true.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 16, 2021 8:39 am

Crossie says:
September 16, 2021 at 8:27 am
I heard the Moore’s are in Spain.
Gez, they are no moor.

Moore’s the pity.
I heard he really livened up the place.

Cassie of Sydney
September 16, 2021 8:39 am

“Fat Clive is not the answer.”

I agree….I’m a proud member of the LDP. If the LDP runs a lower house candidate here in Wentworth that LDP person will get my numero uno vote….if they don’t my ballot paper will be defaced. And in the senate the LDP will receive my first preference followed by One Nation and UAP.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 8:41 am

As various areas of the Former Commonwealth of Australia approach vaccine modelling numbers who will be the first to shift the goalposts?

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 16, 2021 8:42 am

Mother Lode, if you go nuke for electrical power there is no need for windmills at all.
I’d size the nukes to take care of peak power needs, maybe some OC gas turbines for emergencies and unusual power demands and use the excess nuke power when not needed to desalinate water.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 16, 2021 8:42 am

Dr Faustussays:
September 15, 2021 at 11:14 pm
Senior federal ministers and their opposition counterparts were involved in top-secret talks in Canberra on Wednesday ahead of a major international announcement on Thursday morning.

Looks like the Frog-sub contract is in jeopardy. To be replaced by US nuclear boats with some sort of UK involvement.

I wonder what attitude PC Patton will take to anti-nuclear protestors hitting the streets of Melbournistan this weekend?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 8:43 am

Of course Sneakers hasn’t even got the goalposts out of the shed.

jupes
jupes
September 16, 2021 8:43 am

Sheridan always was a lightweight. Very keen an wars he doesn’t have to fight. As for Milley- yet another fucking arts graduate.

Just in case there was any doubt, Sheridan comes out as a deep-state sychophant of the ocean-going class. He actually believes that the military has a right to undermine the US President, to the point that it can inform an enemy of its attack plans. He actually supports that.

What a totalitarian fuckwit.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 16, 2021 8:44 am

Yes, yes, don’t vote for Clive because he’s uncouth. Who was the other guy who was allegedly like that?
Seems some don’t want to win. They won’t even fight. Worst case if Clive’s party gets a few up is the cat set amongst the pigeons. It is time that happened.

jupes
jupes
September 16, 2021 8:44 am

I wonder what attitude PC Patton will take to anti-nuclear protestors hitting the streets of Melbournistan this weekend?

Oh please let it happen.

jupes
jupes
September 16, 2021 8:46 am

Worst case if Clive’s party gets a few up is the cat set amongst the pigeons. It is time that happened.

Agree. I’m voting for the fat man. Well, his party anyway.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 8:46 am

The subs announcement should help Midnight Oil downloads.

Gab
Gab
September 16, 2021 8:46 am

callisays:
September 15, 2021 at 8:44 pm
I’m proud to be as FlashCat’s Queen of Wrongology.

What? That’s never going to happen. You and wrongology in the same sentence, that’s silly.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 16, 2021 8:47 am

12 Virginia-class nuclears now!

By Top Ender (article as published some time back in several journals)

This article was written for the general public, to urge the average reader to think “nuclear submarine”, and therefore puts the subject matter simply.

 

Our submarine acquisition program has spent several billion dollars and not seen a metre of steel cut yet. That’s not a bad thing. Abandon the project now, and buy 12 Virginia-class nuclear vessels from the USA.

With regional tensions increasing, then building our own one-off type submarines which will arrive in the early 2030’s is not good enough. We have no guarantee they will work.

When we built the Collins class submarines (at exorbitant expense) they did not work properly for several years. It is only now – after decades of operation – that they are reasonably functional.

Submarines are the ultimate deterrent and attack weapon: their location is hopefully unknown, and they can strike at targets without warning. But we need to expand beyond the capabilities of the Collins, and also the French Attack boats which we should abandon.

Instead we should buy 12 of a proven design which is already in the water. We want long-range hunter-killer vessels. We also want them to be able to stay submerged for long periods to avoid detection. Nuclear does this in spades. The propulsion system also offers tremendous speed underwater – much more than does diesel-electric systems. This is an attack advantage.

What problems would there be in acquiring nuclear-engined submarines from the USA? Using American technology is not as difficult as might be thought. The Americans facilitated the British Navy’s entry into nuclear boats – a submarine is called a boat – back in the 1960s. The Royal Navy’s HMS Dreadnought was launched in 1960, five years after the US Navy’s first nuclear, USS Nautilus. Its propulsion system was American.

The Virginia class is a proven vessel. They are designed by General Dynamics’s Electric Boat and Huntington Ingalls Industries, and are expected to be within the US Navy until 2060. Nineteen have been completed so far.

The Virginia-class would be a step up for us: they are a bigger vessel, and would require more crew. But if the relationship with the USA was deepened by purchase of such vessels, why not, with America’s permission, embark on a campaign to bring some US submariners down under?

The step-up in requirements also comes with a twin reward of unlimited endurance and range at sea. The nuclear engine can provide the ability to stay submerged and at sea indefinitely, as its never-ending supply of electricity means the boat can stay down rather than surface or snorkel to obtain air for engine and crew requirements. The range too is theoretically unlimited, for again the nuclear electricity can drive the vessel for decades. But the nuclear engines also provide very high speed of movement – ideal for pursuing targets or for getting into position for a firing solution ahead of them.

The main obstacles in the way of acquiring Virginia-class seem to have been man-made and somewhat specious. Critics argue that we would need a “nuclear industry”. What this is exactly never seems to be made clear. The nuclear engines of such boats are a sealed unit. The US Navy maintains four of its own nuclear vessels in Guam, showing that the maintenance needed is no more than the usual requirements for hull, living and weapon systems – which we do anyway for the Collins-class. Anything needed on the nuclear engines could be done by sailing a vessel temporarily back to the USA. The nuclear original fuel of each vessel will anyway last the life of the boat.

Another objection is that Australians don’t want nuclear power, and therefore nuclear-powered naval vessels. But no extensive national poll seems to have been done on this question, and indeed in 2014, in a series of public meetings known as “Guarding Against Uncertainty: Australian Attitudes to Defence” nuclear submarines were continually raised positively by members of the public. It seems more that the two main sides of politics fear some slippage of their vote if they introduced it as policy. And in fact Australia has had a nuclear reactor operating in a Sydney suburb since 1958 at Lucas Heights.

Another objection is that the Americans would not “sell” Australia such nuclear technology. I can’t see why not – it is now over half a century old, and many countries apart from the USA operate small nuclear reactors in driving submarines: Britain, France, India, China, USSR, with Brazil currently developing the technology. How such systems work is hardly a secret. And it is likely the USA would want to assist its biggest Pacific partner to become more capable. The Virginia-class is indeed more powerful in areas outside its basic submarine capabilities: it fires both Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles, as well as launching torpedoes and mines.

The Tomahawk is a land-attack weapon, and with its long-range is an extremely capable stand-off weapon – more capable than anything else in the Australian Defence Force arsenal. Australia has crept towards such capabilities over the last few years, but 12 sets of Tomahawks – the Virginia Block V boats carry 40 – would massively increase Australia’s attack capacity – and therefore its deterrence – capability. In other words, we would become a lot more scary – a good thing – for “if you want peace, then prepare for war”. By being very strong we may indeed deter potential enemies from being engaged in battle against us.

As can be seen, the Virginia-class would present a lot of advantages for Australia. Ironically, such an improvement in our defence systems would also be cheaper than what we are preparing to spend on the French submarines. $80-$100 billion has been much talked about, for vessels which would arrive in the early 2030’s onwards. The cost of the Virginias is said to be around $3-4 billion a boat – a total cost of around half of the present proposition. And it would give us a weapons platform that would work – rather than one which is an unknown voyage into an uncertain future.

The Americans have a useful expression for such an outline as given above. It’s called a “no-brainer”. It means this solution is so obvious and simple and straightforward it’s obvious. But why not add something else that we may gain. With the American’s designer’s permission, build our own Virginia class boats number 9-12 under licence. Even if the USA supplied the complete engine package, that would represent another remarkable step-up for this country. As the Americans also say: “don’t ask, don’t get.”

-o-o-O-o-o-

Top Ender was a naval officer, primarily an intelligence analyst, for nearly 20 years. He is a military historian whose latest books include Atomic Salvation – “how the A-Bombs saved the lives of 30 million”, and Teddy Sheean VC, an analysis of the delayed award of a Victoria Cross to Australia’s only naval VC hero – both Big Sky Publishing. Some years ago his analysis of the combat action which sank the submarine I-124 – still lying outside Darwin with its 80 crew entombed – was published by Avonmore.

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 8:48 am

Defence analyst Peter Jennings put the ABC in its place this morning when AM’s Sabra Lane asked him earnestly whether the nuclear subs deal will provoke China:

“Let’s not put the cart before the horse. China is the provocateur here.”

That took the wind out of her sails.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 16, 2021 8:56 am

Defence analyst Peter Jennings put the ABC in its place this morning when AM’s Sabra Lane asked him earnestly whether the nuclear subs deal will provoke China:

Anybody asked the Greens for comment?

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 8:56 am

As various areas of the Former Commonwealth of Australia approach vaccine modelling numbers who will be the first to shift the goalposts?

Jeannette Young has already opined that she would like to see 95%.

I wonder if Palaszczuk is beginning to see the folly of ceding power to unelected bureaucrats?

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 16, 2021 9:02 am

Please tell me I didn’t hear Scummo utter the words of project death:
Built in Adelaide.

P
P
September 16, 2021 9:05 am

Vaccine mandates questioned
By Marilyn Rodrigues -September 15, 2021 – The Catholic Weekly

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 16, 2021 9:07 am

Top Ender says:
September 16, 2021 at 8:47 am
12 Virginia-class nuclears now!

Bittersweet rightness I imagine.

The cost of throwing the Frog-boat program into reverse will be eye watering. I’d assume that most of the geniuses who got us here will have secure, well-paid jobs for the next 10 years adjusting and finalising contracts.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 16, 2021 9:10 am

Australia will make the switch to nuclear-powered subs with help from the UK and US.

One moment Top Ender is reviewing a nuclear subs drama series out of the UK, the next Morrison launches into a commitment to get into nuclear subs.
Is there anything the man can’t do?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 16, 2021 9:13 am

I wonder if Palaszczuk is beginning to see the folly of ceding power to unelected bureaucrats?

Suspect Palacechook is more keenly focussed on ‘Loyal Deputy’ Miles, as he thrashes around trying to sandbag Indooroopilly against the Greens tossing him out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 16, 2021 9:13 am

Is there anything the man can’t do?

Wonder how the Muesli tastes in the Albanese household?

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 9:17 am

Anybody asked the Greens for comment?

Comment volunteered:

This dangerous nuclear submarines move puts floating Chernobyls in the heart of Australia’s cities.

It makes Australia less safe, increases the risk of conflict in our region & puts us in the firing line.

Greens will fight this tooth and nail.

Adam Bandt@AdamBandt

To ageist, racist and misandrist we can now add perfidious.

That’s a lot of animus to be carrying around in one’s psyche.

It can’t be healthy.

As I suggested yesterday, perhaps some introspection is in order?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 16, 2021 9:19 am

Worst case if Clive’s party gets a few up is the cat set amongst the pigeons. It is time that happened.

This.

Cassie of Sydney
September 16, 2021 9:22 am

“Adam Bandt@AdamBandt”

Actually…I’d rather have a thousand Palmers in parliament than one Bandt and one Hanson-Dung.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 9:23 am

Sabra Lane. LOL. Personifies the decline of The Green-Left Weekly Radio (Now Half) Hour formerly known as AM.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 9:29 am

The cost of throwing the Frog-boat program into reverse will be eye watering. I’d assume that most of the geniuses who got us here will have secure, well-paid jobs for the next 10 years adjusting and finalising contracts.

Probably still cheaper than Snowy 2.0. Smell the Potential Greatness.

Mater
September 16, 2021 9:30 am

Australia going nuclear?
Does that make us the first Fascist nuclear power?

Gab
Gab
September 16, 2021 9:31 am

And in other grotesque news …

Judicial Watch received the records through a March 2019 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, of which the FDA is a part (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department Health and Human Services (No. 1:19-cv-00876)). The lawsuit asks for all contracts and related documentation on disbursement of funds, procedural documents and communications between FDA and ABR for the provision of human fetal tissue to be used in humanized mice research. After successfully opposing the FDA’s redaction of certain information from its records, a federal court ordered HHS to release additional information about its purchases of organs harvested from aborted human fetuses – including “line item prices,” or the price per organ the government paid to ABR. The court also found “there is reason to question” whether the transactions violate federal law barring the sale of fetal organs. Documents previously uncovered in this lawsuit show that the federal government demanded the purchased fetal organs be “fresh and never frozen.”)

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/new-fda-records-humanized-mice/

Woolfe
Woolfe
September 16, 2021 9:40 am

Feds can annex Garden Island from Daddy McClown and manage the subs from there.

But they will probably choose the Chinese owned Darwin Port.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 16, 2021 9:41 am

but Scummo assured the media that we won’t be developing a nuclear industry

Eh?

How?

cohenite
September 16, 2021 9:41 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 16, 2021 at 6:33 am
Johannes Leak needs explanation.

Milley needs a court, a judge and a long walk.

Bongino goes heavy on this fat traitor:

P
P
September 16, 2021 9:42 am
Mater
September 16, 2021 9:44 am

Had to laugh.
In order to ban Doctors from prescribing Ivermectin for Covid, the TGA had to put it on the Poisons Standard.

It’s been in use for 40 years, and was the basis for a Nobel prize…now it’s officially a ‘poison’.

This place is a joke.

cohenite
September 16, 2021 9:44 am

Strange days. Head general, milley colludes with the chunks while his zombie boss joins with boris and scomo to nuclearise Australia’s navy, presumably against the chunks. I guess the military companies have had a say in this apparent contradiction.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 9:45 am

‘The Greens will fight this tooth and nail.’

Superficially whitened tooth and painted nail.

The deal’s done, you limp little pooftah-pansies*.

h/t NFA

calli
calli
September 16, 2021 9:46 am

Gab says:
September 16, 2021 at 9:31 am

The wonder of it is that the vast majority are unaware of this horror. But an even greater wonder is that those who are aware are comfortable with it because “Science”.

“My body, my choice” was always a lie anyway. The spectre of mandatory vaxxing just proved it.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 16, 2021 9:49 am

Unbelievable positivity in The Australian comments about the sub news.

1. At the end of day, it’s your proper mates that matter. This is a spectacular achievement by Dutton. No doubt Albo, Tanya and Wong will now be in a panic with their best “maaaates” in the unions about how “unfair” it is to deal with those dastardly Americans. 998 likes
2. Best news I’ve read this year. 1136 likes
3. So this morning Xi Jin Ping is reaching for the Aspro’s and the luvvies around Australia are going into a spin. 798 likes

I thought I was doing well to crack 100 likes once.

cohenite
September 16, 2021 9:49 am

Garrison very good but these 2 toons take the cake:

comment image

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/aed62f801a571be81829369d90be0d10?width=1024

The only issue with Leak’s effort is the conspirators against Trump weren’t hiding; they were out and about, the demorats and the msm were actively discussing with the fat traitor milley efforts to subvert the unstable Trump.

This must be the greatest political irony ever: the demorats and the swamp claiming Trump was and is unstable while the senile rat biden farts, sniffs and stumbles around. Everything the demorats accuse others of they are doing or are themselves.

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 9:50 am

Well done, Top Ender — the righteous submarine whisperer!

PS: I bet Macron couldn’t believe his luck when Trumble’s Stupid Fucking Liberals ordered the stupid fucking frogboats to save a seat in the Australian House of Representatives.

Well done also to the new defence minister, saving Australia from our stupid fucking prime minister.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 16, 2021 9:51 am

Imagine being one of those several hundred submarine developmental staff in France now.

Quell horreur!

miltonf
miltonf
September 16, 2021 9:54 am

Yes the decaying old thief is symbolic of the USA I’m sad to say. Worse than Brezhnev whom some compare him too.

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 9:55 am

but Scummo assured the media that we won’t be developing a nuclear industry

Eh?

How?

Let’s just hope Morrison is playing the media for the fools they are.

The expertise required to operate the subs is the perfect springboard to a nuclear industry.

In fact, the one weakness in this plan is that we don’t currently have much of that expertise, unlike the US.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 16, 2021 9:55 am

AUKUS is awkward to say.

mem
mem
September 16, 2021 9:56 am

“The Fellow from Downunder’, Scummo’s new nickname compliments of Dementia Joe. Hope the cartoonists keep pencils above the belt! sarc.

miltonf
miltonf
September 16, 2021 9:57 am

The thing is- how can anyone who loves Australia ever There are forgive Howard and the Liberals for foisting Michael Trumble onto this country.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 16, 2021 10:00 am

UKUSA has already been used?

Would you prefer USUKA?

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 16, 2021 10:01 am

Can we lease two secondhand Virginia-class submarines from the USA straight away to get started on?

Indolent
Indolent
September 16, 2021 10:03 am

The thing is- how can anyone who loves Australia ever There are forgive Howard and the Liberals for foisting Michael Trumble onto this country.

No

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 10:04 am

The Greens will fight this tooth and nail.

Win for them too. It will help the guys in koala suits with buckets.

Arky
September 16, 2021 10:05 am

Australia will find a way to fuck up this sub thing.
Don’t you worry about that.

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 10:05 am

The layout of the site seems to make it very easy for people to make comments intended for the open forum elsewhere.
I’ve been guilty several times.
Missing the latest comments on the right bar.
Not saying it should be changed as I’m sure it’s a lot of work.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

AUKUS is awkward to say.

Orcas. Or-cuss. Ore-cuss. Awkers.

Arky
September 16, 2021 10:09 am

Can you hook a nuke sub up to run the grid?
Are they AC or DC?
Can I at least go down to the docks and recharge my Prius off one?
(I don’t have a Prius, I just thought it sounded funny).
Meh. It’s one step in the right direction, that will be totally obliterated by all the steps in the opposite direction that will occur subsequently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 16, 2021 10:11 am

Top Endersays:

September 16, 2021 at 9:51 am

Imagine being one of those several hundred submarine developmental staff in France now.

Quell horreur!

Are you talking about Frogs or Aussie DoD staff?
I was having a bit of a cackle this morning imagining all those RAN/DoD staff ringing their gay lovers to break the news that the posting was now going to be Swamp Port South Carolina, not France.

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 10:12 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 16, 2021 10:13 am

With the added bonus of cutting HorseFace and the Mincing Cuban out of the alliance.

Arky
September 16, 2021 10:16 am

Even if we do eventually get functional submarines, the Navy will just hand the command to some chick who will prang the thing.
You know I’m right.
Stop being happy. It’s all shitterer than you think.

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 10:17 am

Summer is coming. Can state governments stop this lockdown nonsense now?
Over 70 percent of over 70s are fully vaccinated (and over 90 percent have had one dose).

They are now reporting 12 to 15 year old vaccination stats which have not been included in the eligibility target (yet)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 16, 2021 10:17 am

This dangerous nuclear submarines move puts floating Chernobyls in the heart of Australia’s cities.

It makes Australia less safe, increases the risk of conflict in our region & puts us in the firing line.

Greens will fight this tooth and nail.

In the simple understanding of the Greens everything with ‘nuclear’ in its name is ‘Chernobyl’. It ought also to be considered equivalent to all the thousands of nuclear power stations and reactors around the world that have worked flawlessly. (For a Green, ‘working’ is not a necessary consideration -people should not have to work, and Green schemes never work.)

Funny how they call themselves progressives. They are running the same scare they did in the 70’s. They still won’t or can’t grasp that a nuclear reactor and a nuclear bomb are not the same thing.

Also, if he paid attention he might notice that the subs won’t be in the heart of Australian cities

But how would our possessing nuclear subs raise tensions? That we might be able to travel in waters that someone doesn’t want us to go into? Wouldn’t their need to keep us out actually be the problem?

Only if a nation is being aggressive already can we be somehow thwarting their plans, but if they are aggressors then we are in danger already.

The Greens like to pose themselves as lovers of peace, but their peace is purchased by surrender. Nothing is more important. There is nothing for which they will fight, nothing that they hold dearer than themselves.

Oh, and if China managed to hold sway in Australia, do the Greens think their inanities would be tolerated the way they are by Australia?

Somehow I do not see Bandit as a martyr. He would turn in a second to tell people that they are obeying for the ‘greater good’. Like all those old Soviet posters.

miltonf
miltonf
September 16, 2021 10:18 am

That Palmer and UAP are going at TGA with a cricket bat is more than enough for me to get behind them.

As Deng Xiaoping said it doesn’t matter what colour the cat is as long as it catches mice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 10:25 am

I was having a bit of a cackle this morning imagining all those RAN/DoD staff ringing their gay lovers to break the news that the posting was now going to be Swamp Port South Carolina, not France.

I don’t like the sound of rough trade in Swamp Port South Carolina. I suspect I am not the only one.

Tom
Tom
September 16, 2021 10:29 am

Cheer up, Arky.

GoTiges
GoTiges
September 16, 2021 10:30 am

Can we lease two secondhand Virginia-class submarines from the USA straight away to get started on?

Good idea but we’d need the crews to go with them. The training pipeline for our conventional boats is very long – limited by bunk space, sea time of the boats and the number of volunteers. Add nuclear propulsion and different weapon/sensor systems to the mix and our Navy is staring at a very large operator/skill gap.

cohenite
September 16, 2021 10:34 am

miltonfsays:
September 16, 2021 at 9:57 am
The thing is- how can anyone who loves Australia ever There are forgive Howard and the Liberals for foisting Michael Trumble onto this country.

Howard is arguably the worse ever PM because of the stuff he didn’t do: stop turdball, close down the abc, stop the Paris agreement and all the renewable and alarmism shit, tighten up who could be in the LNP, that is no broadchurch which has allowed shit like kean and the rest of the inner city elites to infest the party, develop a nuclear industry; as much for the stuff he did do: disarm Australia, gave away our gas to the chunks.

Little johnnie could have done it all because he had thumping majorities in both houses after Tampa. Weak as piss.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 10:36 am

The Greens are fundamentally a protest party. Bob Brown will be lying in bed with half a mongrel over what this will do to the swampies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 10:37 am

Careful. Don’t want to upset Neil.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 16, 2021 10:38 am

Would you prefer USUKA?

The agreement document could include the term “I love you looong time.”

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 10:41 am
Baba
Baba
September 16, 2021 10:44 am

Matersays:
September 16, 2021 at 9:44 am
Had to laugh.
In order to ban Doctors from prescribing Ivermectin for Covid, the TGA had to put it on the Poisons Standard.

From the Explanatory Statement:

Oral ivermectin also has the potential to cause severe adverse events in persons, particularly when taken in high doses that have recently been described in social media and other sources for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 infection.

Forget peer reviewed double blind studies. Social media and ‘other sources’ is where it’s at.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 16, 2021 10:46 am

Top Endersays:
September 16, 2021 at 10:01 am
Can we lease two secondhand Virginia-class submarines from the USA straight away to get started on?

Would it be better to attach personnel to USN subs for training first? And lease Los Angeles Class first for familiarisation, then go for the Virginia once experience is gained?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 16, 2021 10:48 am

Stop being happy. It’s all shitterer than you think.

Try to enjoy the fuckups, Arky. See it as vindication of your worldview.

“There’s nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so.”

Baba
Baba
September 16, 2021 10:48 am

How many people in Australia die from paracetamol overdose each year? Is it a registered poison?

rosie
rosie
September 16, 2021 10:50 am

“BREAKING: A large Florida landlord announces that he will begin requiring all new and existing tenants to provide proof of COVID vaccination, saying, “You don’t want to get vaccinated? You have to move, and if you don’t, we will evict you.” RT IF YOU SUPPORT THE LANDLORD’S MOVE!”
who are ‘occupy democrats’?

Turnip
Turnip
September 16, 2021 10:52 am

I heard the Moore’s are in Spain.

Gez, they are no moor.

No, it was the Moops.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 16, 2021 10:55 am

Spare a thought for the Greenies*.
They’ve just lost a generation long war against their arch enemies, the Stoker Mafia.
Steam is back, Baby.
*Greenies always were and always will be electrical artificers.
Sparkies dabble in radio and associated dark arts.

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 10:58 am

Howard is arguably the worse ever PM because of the stuff he didn’t do…

On top of the stuff he did do.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 16, 2021 11:03 am

Brittany case hits the courts. Will they be calling Gargooglery as an expert witness? No live stream as far as I know.

Roger
Roger
September 16, 2021 11:09 am

Oh, and if China managed to hold sway in Australia, do the Greens think their inanities would be tolerated the way they are by Australia?

Somehow I do not see Bandit as a martyr. He would turn in a second to tell people that they are obeying for the ‘greater good’.

The Greens were summmed up brilliantly by Delingpole: Watermelons.

To what extent they were funded or co-opted by the Soviets and the GDR in their early days is an interesting historical question, but there’s no doubt that they were useful idiots who served to subvert the West under the guise of environmentalism.

Bons
Bons
September 16, 2021 11:12 am

Have NZ broken off relations yet?
Cherry on the Dutton cake.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 16, 2021 11:12 am

‘the Navy will just hand the command to some chick who will prang the thing.’

Blood ‘N’ Guts Sneath, conqueror of marching in the dark on Anzac Day mornings – your country needs you.

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