Open Thread – Mon 20 Sept 2021


Music in the Tuileries, Édouard Manet, 1862

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Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 5:16 pm

“Unlike you, I’m not a racist.

The content of your displayed character says you are, and that you care diddly squat for the future of children, including Jewish children when they are the grand children of someone you hate, such as my Jewish grandchildren.”

No…I am not a racist and I think it’s high time you took a break from this site and calmed down. I note that you haven’t answered my question. Clearly Adam’s booted you and good on him for doing so.

Nobody with Jewish relatives would write such disgraceful tripe as you have written above. I tell who does have Jewish grandchildren and that’s Calli. She knows more about Jews, Judaism and Israel than you.

Piss off you disgraceful lunatic..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 5:17 pm

In Engineering Science I managed to more than double my English mark in the HSC.
Despite being a voracious reader, even of Nappy Era stuff (eg. Alexander Kent).
Put it down to my opinion of what English is differing slightly from the markers’ opinions.
A harbinger. High school now would be torture, I’m very glad I’m not a kid today.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 5:17 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
September 23, 2021 at 5:13 pm

And speaking of Shakespeare, I remembered this in my melancholy over AdamD and his family,

I could never make sense of “Romeo and Juliet” until the literature teacher showed the Zeferilli film production.

Rones, I don’t believe Juliet cuckolded Romeo if that’s what confused you about the play.

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 5:18 pm

Flattening the curve .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/0MM0Wb5

twostix
twostix
September 23, 2021 5:18 pm

The Australian gloating that the protests today ‘fizzled’.

Hundreds of riot and counter-terrorism police shooting at and beating the shit out of anyone they don’t like the look of in the Melbourne CBD like some communist Eastern European ghetto shithole isn’t exactly a victory you can build a quality new society on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 5:21 pm

KD earlier:-

Dickens Cider.

A classic Kelvin Cunnington!
(D-Gen reference from last century).

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 5:21 pm

Trafalgar is an excellent polling firm. However, if they’re showing Whittmar down by 6 points, it will mean the Demons will have to cheat by at least 7 points so she wins narrowly. Trafalgar helps the Demons figure out how much to cheat by.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) trails former Detroit Police Chief James Craig by 6 points in a hypothetical general election match-up, according to a poll released this week.

The survey from the GOP-leaning Trafalgar Group shows Craig, a Republican, leading Whitmer 50.4 percent to 44.4 percent among likely general election voters. Another 5.2 percent of respondents remain undecided.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 5:22 pm

“The Australian gloating that the protests today ‘fizzled’.”

I noticed that. I can read it on my work computer. Very glad I no longer subscribe to the rag.

Winston Smith
September 23, 2021 5:27 pm

Zipster:

It was always about the new government licence to be in public.

Correct.
The Administrative Class are taking back the Commons from the people.

Arky
September 23, 2021 5:28 pm

Fat Tonysays:
September 23, 2021 at 5:15 pm
Struth
When crunch time comes, who do you think our military will back?
(I’m not referring to those perverts at the top)

..
Who did they back in the French revolution or Russia 1917?
They split, and a lot of them went left.
Then, as the left won, they all went left.

Delta A
Delta A
September 23, 2021 5:28 pm

Those live feeds would have been rallying numbers.

Rukshan had over 62,000 followers at one stage.

Zipster
September 23, 2021 5:28 pm

Public Health is an internationalist class and profession that take their guidance on how to operate from the WHO, etc.

They spent 11 years coming up with ‘pandemic response manuals’ and roadmaps, etc, after Swine Flu 2009, these have schedules and milestones and markers that they are all working to together. They contain action plans for dealing with media, implementing lockdowns, passports, ‘surveillance’, uprisings, etc.

They are technocratic utopians who believe they can usher in a new world of zero infectious disease ‘outbreaks’, all it takes is people to give up their silly sentimental ideas of privacy and freedom, they are for health passports and mass tracking.

Politicians are obvious, power is power and they are being guided and enabled by the ‘public health’ classes. They are for a government licence for you to leave your house and a transition to a social credit based society. China’s investments in our academic and political classes over the last decade are yielding results.

Global capital dreams of a world that is ordered on the Amazon model, of people-as-livestock and as interchangeable units with dreams of totalitarian society where you sit around doing nothing much but grazing on your manufactured prole food, watching Netflix and buying trinkets between shifts at the local distribution centre. They invented the vast intimate tracking / ‘passport’ systems for use in their factories and warehouses.

Their dreams for the future all overlap, you as an individual getting to live your life your way like you used to don’t make it.

I suspect there is also a strong push as the spike protein was likely to be reused in other chinese bioweaponage. It’s the spike protein which is the key that unlocks access to the cell and replication. Chicoms will need to use a completely different spike protein in its bioweapons now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 5:30 pm

I just got the feeling that at least one person here wanted the rumour yesterday about the guy being killed by a rubber bullet to be true.

Delta A
Delta A
September 23, 2021 5:31 pm

struthsays:
September 23, 2021 at 4:46 pm

You seem a little blue today, Struth.

RUOK? 🙂

Zipster
September 23, 2021 5:31 pm

Hundreds of riot and counter-terrorism police shooting at and beating the shit out of anyone they don’t like the look of in the Melbourne CBD like some communist Eastern European ghetto shithole isn’t exactly a victory you can build a quality new society on.

how much is the fine in dickheadanville?

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2021 5:32 pm

Tucker Carlson on the dumbest men on TV.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 23, 2021 5:33 pm

twostix says:
September 23, 2021 at 5:14 pm

Ok – now can you bring Big Pharma into the picture (include graft if you wish)

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 5:34 pm
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 23, 2021 5:35 pm

struthsays:
September 23, 2021 at 2:42 pm

Some wisdom at that link struth –The White Rose – the first few paragraphs show what the Evil in Hugo Boss exacted for the resistance by the young

sfw
sfw
September 23, 2021 5:35 pm

BoN how can you not like Dickens? He’s funny, perceptive and plain great. His plots are rather thin, George Orwell described him as (I think) ‘Great gargoyles and lousy architecture’ but could describe people that anyone would still recognise today. I had to do Shakespeare in school too. I had reasonably good teachers, we did Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet and Julius Ceasar, hated every minute of them. I just can’t get past the language, Tolstoy hated Shakespeare and I agree, dunno how anyone can get pleasure out of him.
One exception, the St Crispins Day speech, it’s perfect.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 5:35 pm

🙂 The only gay in the village

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScQcM0tzW4

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 5:39 pm

Time for a check of this site from Snopes

“He Raped Me Every Morning” – Snopes Founder Mikkelson Accused of Daily Sexual Assaults by Second Wife and Former Sex Worker

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/raped-every-morning-snopes-founder-mikkelson-accused-daily-sexual-assaults-second-wife-former-sex-worker/

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 5:40 pm

I’ve got a few days off Delta, and there is nothing more important than fighting this.
Where I am in country QLD I feel unable to help in anyway, bar what I am doing.
But yes I am down in the dumps.
Have been for 19 months.
Because I am sane.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 23, 2021 5:40 pm

Re Dickens; I found the tragedy of Scrooge and his corruption into sentimentality deeply moving. It won’t happen to me.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 5:48 pm

I’ve got a few days off Delta,

Struth, the delta strain gave you a few days off? How long have you had it?

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 5:49 pm

Fat Tony.
I haven’t much Idea about the military except for my son’s mates, who like him, are all getting out, because it is emasculated and woke….lost.

Um, Twostix, again i would like to take that little comment of yours about the globalist health nazis over to the furniture shop because I don’t want to lose it.
I will of course credit you with it.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 5:51 pm

This is what America under the Dems looks like

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-tucker-carlson-full-show-2/

Watch the beginning of Tucker’s program. It’s shocking.

Chris
Chris
September 23, 2021 5:53 pm

I smiled in appreciation Dr BeauGan.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 5:54 pm

Lew claims they need to keep taxpayer money as insurance against further lockdowns, but he personally received a $25 million dollar dividend in 2020

Small beer in the context of his US$2.1bn personal fortune.

Hypocrite of the Year?

struth
struth
September 23, 2021 5:54 pm

Only betas catch deltas JC.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 5:55 pm


Topher Field
23 mins ·

A lot of videos are circulating and claiming to be from today’s rally. So far all of them that I’ve seen have been reposts from previous rallies.

Please verify what you’re looking at before you repost, but if you DO have a video that you believe is from today then I’d be keen to see it, because I’m as in the dark as you are.

Thanks!

johanna
johanna
September 23, 2021 5:56 pm

Never got to the end of a Dickens novel, I’m afraid. I like my prose crisp and clear. Plus, the plots are tortured to death because they are just soap operas in weekly installments, but with fancier prose.

Victorian novels are not really my thing – terribly over-written and pretentious as a rule.

The period immediately before or after is much more my style.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 5:57 pm

This is what America under the Dems looks like

Where’s Kamala?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 5:58 pm

I just find Dickens boring and tedious. I hated Catcher in the Rye too. At the same time I was doing their stuff in English I was reading Clavell’s Shogun for pleasure. Marvelous story. In Year 10 I had an English teacher who happened to like SF, so when he set us a short story to write I did so, getting 100%.

Which is why English is such a dead loss as a subject these days. Even then it was all about the teachers’ union’s likes and dislikes, not about the language and literature. And now it’s meaningless woke rubbish.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 5:59 pm

Dickens was written in episodes for publication as such. The cavalcade of characters, not much happening in each chapter, the story proceeding at glacial pace, cliff hangers – Perils of Penelope without the lass being tied to the tracks.

I watched Leo McKern deliver that speech quoted up thread – he made a fine King Lear. Timothy Dalton (sigh) played Edgar. Royal Shakespeare Company came to Sydney and my English class went to watch. The year before, the Bell Shakespeare Company put on Macbeth at a theatre-in-the-round, just like the Globe – John Bell and Anna Volska. The class was right at the front amongst the action! Sword fights and all.

I was sold on Shakespeare! 😀

areff
areff
September 23, 2021 6:02 pm

SFW: How can you possibly hate *Shakespeare’s language?

It’s only three minutes. Won’t hurt you. Give it a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTFT-_ZOBPQ

*Shakespeare didn’t actually write them

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 6:03 pm

Through Deadman’s site –

I do not consent

Struth in a minute and a half.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 6:03 pm

Dickens was written in episodes for publication as such.

Dostoevsky too; he was a great admirer of Dickens.

His themes are rather more interesting though.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 6:12 pm

I hated Catcher in the Rye too.

Wash your mouth , Brucie.
The author lived in our building in NYC, which I intend to visit the second we open up for travel …in 2038.

Delta A
Delta A
September 23, 2021 6:14 pm

I found the tragedy of Scrooge and his corruption into sentimentality deeply moving.

#Meetoo, Beaugy!

I find myself blinking back happy tears every time Scrooge buys the turkey, or visits Fred for lunch. And God bless us all!

Delta A
Delta A
September 23, 2021 6:14 pm

…everyone!

sfw
sfw
September 23, 2021 6:14 pm

“We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,”

Are we few or many?

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 6:14 pm

Does the government think that the risk of the huge fines for serving an unvaccinated person will be enough to control everyone?

I’m a bit lost here. As I understand it, the government acknowledges that it does not have the power to mandate vaccines and is pressuring businesses to do it’s dirty work for it. However, if the vaccines cannot be made mandatory, then how on earth can they then fine businesses for not insisting on proof of it? Tens of thousands of businesses have already said that they would not discriminate between customers. They should ALL say that it’s none of their business whether someone has been vaccinated or not.

Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:15 pm

BREAKING: FINAL AZ Audit Report Hearing Scheduled – Results To Be Released NEXT FRIDAY Sept. 24th at 1:00 PM
Update. The audit will be released next Friday on the 24th at 1 p.m. in the Senate chambers. The Senate Gallery will be open to the public. I’m not sure how you will go about reserving a seat for that but I do believe the information will be public. This information has been given to the judge in Maricopa County so I don’t think it is false, I believe you can rely on this. Be ready to pour over the report.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2021 6:15 pm

Rex Angersays:
September 23, 2021 at 4:53 pm
Speaking of the fat fascist fool, is munty cheering on the Ante-Fa Vicstapo over at Phat Pussy, or is he keeping a discreet silence for once?

His blog has been hijacked by his very own Commissar, Steve of Brisbane, and the syconphantic toady nobody wants to have sycophantically toadying up to them, Homer Paxton (aka Not Trampis).

As such, JC and I have spent more time insulting them into enraged silence (Turns out Sampolit Steve reeeeeeally dislikes this ‘Conservative Catholic’ Catallaxy and its permitting toxic masculinists like twostix to post here. Wibbles his jowls an’ eberyfink. Hilarious), than do anything else.

And the Fat Man himself is Missing in Action…

So, as with his previous effort, Phat Pussy has quickly lapsed into incoherent irrelevance?

Delta A
Delta A
September 23, 2021 6:16 pm

Struth, the delta strain gave you a few days off? How long have you had it?

Oh, haha, JC.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 6:16 pm

However, if the vaccines cannot be made mandatory, then how on earth can they then fine businesses for not insisting on proof of it?

It will be decided by the courts, Indolent.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 6:20 pm

Been just told a relative has been told he will be sacked he doesn’t vaccinate… His job is in trades outdoors away from the public ffs. Apparently he’s doubled down & told them to get stuffed. No prizes for the state though…

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 23, 2021 6:21 pm

However, if the vaccines cannot be made mandatory, then how on earth can they then fine businesses for not insisting on proof of it?

When the middle class is finally destroyed, there will only be the Corporations to deal with – they will toe the line.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 23, 2021 6:22 pm

Not all schools are woke.

I know the family of a young lady who has done 1984, Animal Farm, Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, The Handmaid’s Tale, a whole heap of “classic” poetry, Psycho, Thelma and Louise, Catch 22, and more in the last two years in grades 10-11.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 6:23 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
September 23, 2021 at 3:45 pm

srrrrsr, just now:

‘it’s a blood libel’

No, that was Cassie, again & again & again being hysterical & making shit up, like you and the usual shouty people fixated with making shit up to put in the mouths of others.

Of course you and anyone reading these threads can see it for themselves and I’m sorry for those readers, that ignoring you doesn’t make it stop, you just make up more shit.

Anyway, I’m sure you have fun with your never ending, BS laden mean girl pile on’s and some probably do enjoy them, others probably learn from them and the old hands are experts at scrolling.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 6:30 pm

Local Nine Ncl news can be fun. Not much news today so we have these three:

WHAT’S IN A NAME FOR PLANT-BASED PROTEIN?

I can think of a word. Four letters, starts with “s”.

DRIVER CRASHES INTO RAYMOND TERRACE HAIR SALON

Desperate! Her hair must be getting like mine.

WARM WEATHER BRINGS REPTILES OUT OF HIDING

Quite so. The story over at Sky News, of Penny Wong criticizing ScoMo for not acting in the national interest re subs, comes to mind. The critter in the above story is prettier than she is though.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 6:33 pm

“Anyway, I’m sure you have fun with your never ending, BS laden mean girl pile on’s and some probably do enjoy them, others probably learn from them and the old hands are experts at scrolling.

Mrs Nong, it’s a simple question, have you been booted from Dash Cat?

Oh and I’m quite sure KD is a bloke. He most certainly isn’t a “mean girl”….he might be a mean bloke although I’ve never found him to be mean.

Oh and for someone who supposedly has Jewish grandchildren, I note that you…not once…have ever complained about Bird’s vile anti-Semitism on Dash Cat….before you were booted that is!

As I wrote above….piss off.

You’re a liar.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 6:33 pm

DRIVER CRASHES INTO RAYMOND TERRACE HAIR SALON

Lol. Wasn’t me!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 23, 2021 6:33 pm

If I remember the longest sub-sea power cable in the world is in Norway, at about 600k.

The amount of power lost in this venture below suggest this is a cash-cow to make money from government before it conveniently fails in five years or so.

What say Cats with better physics than me?

Indonesia greenlights $30bn Aussie plan to power Singapore

GEOFF CHAMBERS

Indonesia has approved the route of Sun Cable’s Australia-Asia PowerLink through its territorial waters, allowing one of the world’s largest solar farms in the Northern Territory to provide up to 15 per cent of Singapore’s electricity needs from 2028.

In a major coup for the $30bn Australian project, which is backed by Scott Morrison, Indonesia’s Coordinating Minister for Maritime Affairs and Investment Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan on Thursday announced he had recommended the route of the transmission cables through Indonesian waters.

The Indonesian government has also approved the subsea survey permit and welcomed Sun Cable’s investment in the country, which will support local jobs and manufacturing during construction and operation.

The Sun Cable project at Elliott, which is estimated to deliver carbon emissions abatement of around 8.6 million tonnes per year, will help power Darwin and Singapore. It includes the world’s largest battery and a 4200km undersea high voltage direct current cable system from Darwin to Singapore, the longest in the world.

During his visit to Singapore in June, Mr Morrison directly raised the Sun Cable project with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, which he said could “see homes powered here … from solar panels in Australia”.

The project, backed by billionaire investors Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew Forrest, is expected to be promoted by Australia ahead of the United Nations Climate Change Conference in November to illustrate the importance of ASEAN partnerships in reducing emissions in the Indo-Pacific region. The Australian understands similar projects in Northern Australia connecting with other nations in the region are likely in coming years.

Trade Minister Dan Tehan will head to Jakarta next Tuesday to discuss advancement of the Indonesian manufacturing sector.

The Sun Cable decision comes after the Prime Minister last week announced Australia would build a fleet of nuclear submarines. Mr Morrison spoke with Indonesian President Joko Widodo this week to assure him Australia would maintain its obligations under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and that the AUKUS military pact would support stability in the Indo-Pacific.

The AAPowerLink, expected to reduce Singapore’s emissions by 6 million tonnes per year and help the country meet its 2030 targets, was a prominent addition in Australia’s infrastructure priority list released in February.

The project will support more than $8bn of direct investment and generate up to $2bn in exports per year, creating more than 1500 jobs during construction, 350 operational jobs and 12,000 indirect jobs. It will start supplying energy to Darwin in 2026 and Singapore from 2027.

Sun Cable chief executive David Griffin said “we want this world-leading project to create a step-change in the Indo-Pacific’s capability to achieve net zero ambitions and economic growth sustained by renewable energy”.

Sun Cable will work with Indonesian authorities during and following construction of the AAPowerLink. They have already engaged Indonesian firms during the planning, engineering and survey phase and would help the country develop its own battery manufacturing industry.

Sun Cable will also base its maritime repair and maintenance base in Indonesia, featuring one of the world’s largest cable laying vessels.

Mr Cannon-Brookes, the Atlassian co-founder and chief executive, said Australia could become a “renewable energy superpower”.

“We can and should tap into our solar resources that could power the world five times over,” Mr Cannon-Brookes said.

Mr Forrest said decarbonising the planet was “a challenge all people and all nations must rise to”.

“But it is action, not words that are required. I commend Minister Luhut’s leadership, strong action towards this goal,” he said.

Australia’s Ambassador to Indonesia, Penny Williams, praised the Indonesian government for its support and said “Australia believes in a technology-driven approach to combating climate change”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 6:34 pm

Only betas catch deltas JC.

Have you told Donald Trump?

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 6:35 pm

JC says:
September 23, 2021 at 5:51 pm
This is what America under the Dems looks like

It’s difficult to believe there was no intel about the movement of such large groups. They just suddenly turned up at the border?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 6:36 pm

Unsure if this has been covered. I don’t have facebook but he has put up on his website. Knuckle Draggers info that things are crook in Tallarook inside the ranks seems credible. Scroll down a little.

https://berniefinn.com/links/

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 6:39 pm

But yes I am down in the dumps.
Have been for 19 months.
Because I am sane.”

We’re all down in the dumps Struth.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 6:39 pm

Delta, Schmelta. To sum it up, I’m waiting for Sigma.

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 6:40 pm

However, if the vaccines cannot be made mandatory, then how on earth can they then fine businesses for not insisting on proof of it?

My Greek morning coffee supplier is getting a “nice” doc to list him as a jabbee. I wonder how much of that is going on around the world… and here?

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 6:42 pm

Struth, would you at least smile if I told you I had natural immunity to the Mu variant? 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 6:42 pm

Parliament’s independent complaints process launches

Adeshola Ore
Reporter
@AdesholaOre
An hour ago September 23, 2021

An independent complaints body to investigate allegations of sexual assault, harassment and bullying in Australia’s parliament has launched, as part of a raft of historic reforms.

The complaints mechanism was a key recommendation from an internal report — conducted by one of Scott Morrison’s most senior officials – released in July that aimed to clean up parliament’s workplace complaints procedure.

The review was launched in the wake of former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins’ rape allegation. Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet deputy secretary Stephanie Foster’s report also recommended anti-harassment training for MPs and their staff.

Finance Minister Simon Birmingham, who led the government’s consultation on Ms Foster’s report, said the new Parliamentary Workplace Support Service would be overseen by Parliamentary Service Commissioner Peter Woolcott to ensure it was an independent and confidential service.

“Every single Australian has a right to feel and to be safe in their workplace, and our national parliament should set an example and reflect best practice in the prevention and handling of bullying, sexual harassment and sexual assault,” he said.

The complaints mechanism will have the scope to investigate alleged incidents that occurred in the current parliamentary term. It will provide support and advice to MPs and staff impacted by serious incidents like assault, harassment or bullying.

The body, which will be staffed 24 hours a day by trained counsellors, will also help facilitate police referrals when necessary, appoint independent experts to review complaints and receive reports of allegations.

It will be available to MPs and staff who work in any federal parliament workplace, including Parliament House and electoral offices.

Labor and the Greens had previously called for the body to be able to investigate incidents that occurred outside the current parliamentary term because it can often take survivors many years to speak about an alleged assault.

johanna
johanna
September 23, 2021 6:42 pm

I think BoN or somebody else here wrote an analysis of the Sun Cable project a while back demonstrating that it is complete nonsense. Also, I seem to remember reading that they decided that the solar option was indeed unviable and were now looking at an ammonium plant or something similar. Oh, and hydrogen.

It’s all pie in the sky to the max. The sheer logistics make it fantastically expensive to build and maintain, and right through cyclone territory too.

It will be a nice little earner for well paid executives till it goes tits up, I expect.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 6:43 pm

Top Ender as an geologist I see problems with the subduction zone off Indonesia, as someone familiar with that region other ongoing problems with “tea money.” Reckon it will be a smashing success though propped up by the taxpayer…

sfw
sfw
September 23, 2021 6:43 pm

A bit like Abbott, Bernie Finn talked the talk in his early days, however as time went on he morphed into just another liberal, he worked hard to get Scott Ryan into the federal senate, another Scott who looked the goods but showed himself to be useless bench warmer.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 6:44 pm

The first thing we do,
Let’s kill all the lawyers.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 6:44 pm

Helen, like Cassie, I prefer the AZ jab. It is slightly more like an ordinary vaccine in carriage of the RNA prompt than the Pfizer, even though still an RNA one. Blood clots are the main issue with it, from what I can see looking at the reporting data. Other things seem very infrequent and likely not overall related (perhaps idiosyncratic responses). One in a million will die from AZ currently due to ‘thrombosis with thrombocytopaenia’, a known rare blood ‘clotting and bleeding’ condition that occurs in the population at higher rates than this when people are given the blood thinner Heparin, which is widely used in hospitals (I had Heparin during my recent major abdominal operation). It seems that about eight in a million might get some level of clotting with the AZ vaxx, which is becoming much more understood and highly treatable, often relatively mild. Pfizer seems to have more inflammatory problems causing cardiac and neurological issues, and also causes blod clots. I am thus glad my 18 year old grandson had the AZ rather than the Pfizer. He’s had no problems, no side effects at all. My 37 year old son has had no problems with the AZ and same, no side effects.

I have had the AZ (comorbidities a previous DVT clot and high blood pressure) and so has Hairy (comorbidities severe DVT’s in both legs, heart stent, severe cellulitis of the legs, high blood pressure, prostate cancer in remission). We have both been fine, only issue was tiredness the day after the first jab and a sore arm, nothing at all after the second jab for either of us.

My girlfriend in Tassie has heart problems and had no reaction at all to both jabs. Many of my friends from my dance class, in their 60’s to 80’s, have had the AZ early on, only one of about fifty who attend has had a bad reaction, she felt unwell for a week. Everyone else sailed through it.

None of the people above are obviously overweight and all do exercise and eat well.

Hope this help with your mum. You can have the second jab of AZ after 8 weeks without problems. My neighbour, overweight and with heart issues, waited 7 weeks between. Hairy and I waited for ten. Some get AZ now at around 5 weeks, too early I think. Pfizer is being given with only 3 weeks between, but I think that is a little premature, 8 was originally the recommendation, now it’s four. A shorter space between jabs doesn’t seem to be a medical problem, more an issue of degree of immunity conferred.

I think it’s disgraceful that she has to be forced into this decision. If she doesn’t want it, why should she have it, as long as she realises Covid might take her away far more readily than someone younger.
Her choice.

P
P
September 23, 2021 6:46 pm

Young Leo tells us on SIX News Australia he understands that a big protest is planned for tomorrow ‘some are calling it the big one’.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 6:47 pm

“Labor and the Greens had previously called for the body to be able to investigate incidents that occurred outside the current parliamentary term because it can often take survivors many years to speak about an alleged assault.”

So does that apply to Kathy Sheriff? Probably not. Instead I suspect it means “it can often take survivors many years to make up fabrications, fantasies and lines about an “alleged assault”…so that certain progressives can use it for ideological purposes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 6:49 pm

Now, let me be clear.
Spitting on people is like doxxing.
A dog’s act.
But it seems that every time the Hunchback is in the shit, a diversionary story pops up about someone being spat on in a testing centre or vax centre.
Nein news led with one tonight.
But they are always vague about the exact details, something like this:-

“The incident occurred at a centre in the South East suburbs. The victim, a woman in her 40’s from Melbourne’s East, was too distressed to speak to the media”.

Hunchback added the tell-tale disclaimer which screams “I’m lying” during his presser.
Disgusting, blah, blah, blah, low act, blah, blah, blah … “or so I’ve heard”.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 6:51 pm

The first thing we do,
Let’s kill all the lawyers.

OK…and who’s going to plead your defence in court?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2021 6:52 pm

rsrr, 6.23:

You got me. I am in fact a woman.

My name is Jessica.

Now. I command you to wax my sack.

sfw
sfw
September 23, 2021 6:53 pm

Tim Quilty (Vic LDP) makes a good statement, however the msm will ignore it.
https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/mp-stop-voilence/?vgo_ee=ZBOkCiOikagCHyW9N1mQChwUnRnlmwiuCIJkd9A7F3A%3

Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:54 pm

draconian

Covid restrictions and penalties in Victoria
Published on 23 Aug 2021

How are COVID-19 restrictions enforced in Victoria, and what are the penalties?

Victoria Police can issue on-the-spot fines of up to $1,817 for adults and up to $10,904 for businesses for:

refusing or failing to comply with the emergency directions
refusing or failing to comply with a public health risk power direction
refusing or failing to comply with the Public Health Directions to provide information.
A $5,452 fine can be issued for anyone found breaching gatherings directions in the home or outside, or for anyone who breaches the requirement to isolate or quarantine under a direction from the Department of Health.

Fines of up to $21,808 for adults and $109,044 for corporations are possible through the court system.

People who do not wear a face mask when required and do not have a lawful exemption can be fined $200.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 6:56 pm

Yup and the Hunchback was frothing platitudes about the sanctity of the Shrine as well after ordering his militia to discharge gunpowder based projectiles there yesterday.

Mmmm hypocrisy is strong in this one.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 6:56 pm

Looks as though both of my sons from my first marriage are having Pfizer. One is double-jabbed already and the other ditched his AZ appointment in favour of Pfizer which was offered only a day later (his choice), so he had it today. Have to ring and see how he went. He’s been dragging his feet on any vaxx, and I have said it is entirely up to him what he does. But now there is a heap of Covid in Redfern public housing areas around where he lives, so he’s moved on it.

My eldest son, who has had some sort of autistic condition all of his life, is forty-nine years old today. He usually comes over here with his two kids and his current non-live-in partner but of course can’t because she is a true believer leftie and wears her mask in the bath I am sure. 🙂

Forty-nine years ago tonight I was in terrible agony having been in labour for a day already, clinging to the end of an iron hospital bed rigid with excruciating pain. Forceps in the end, and one of the early epidurals for the last two hours, a relief, but left me with a crucifying headache. They don’t use that sort now. These days it would have been a caesarian yesterday. When I think of the state of women in Afghanistan, where there is no midwifery and almost half die in childbirth in the outer villages, my heart bleeds for them, and for all women of past ages who suffered from mother nature’s evolutionary curse of a head that pushes the human pelvis to its limits, constrained as it is to be narrow due to our upright stance.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 6:58 pm

So, as with his previous effort, Phat Pussy has quickly lapsed into incoherent irrelevance?

Correct!

sfw
sfw
September 23, 2021 6:58 pm

“Covid restrictions and penalties in Victoria”

None of these are real laws, just regulations and rules drawn up by statutory bodies using the ’emergency powers’. If the people ever get real parliamentary democracy there needs to be something that ensures that only parliament can make laws, rules and regulations, as long as they can delegate their responsibility things will only get worse. Can’t see it happening.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 6:59 pm

Mmmm hypocrisy is strong in this one.

Politicians are generally loathsome creatures.

The odd exception only reinforces the rule.

This is why St. Paul commands believers to pray for those in power.

Only God can help them.

Zipster
September 23, 2021 6:59 pm

Liz, looking at the TGA stats, I think the real death rates are out by an order of magnitude or more. Vaccine contributed to death rather than the only direct cause and therefore discounted, seems to be another way they are hiding the stats. TGA claims to have examined all 500+ reported deaths, I call bullshit.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 7:02 pm

Firstborn son’s partner and mother of his autistic child is now just fifty and had the AZ earlier this year. A day of tiredness after the first jab, and no other side effects. I am really worried that she might want my eleven year old grandson to get a Pfizer jab early next year when he turns twelve; will send her some information if it comes to that,I’ve butted out with everyone else, but when it comes to a child …. Bad enough for the 18 year old to go ahead, imho, but he at least was old enough to make his own choice. His mother, my firstborn’s first partner, has schizophrenia, and has just had two Pfizer jabs very close together. She’s had no ill effects. She still cackles like Kamala. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Liz, looking at the TGA stats, I think the real death rates are out by an order of magnitude or more

I won’t argue on that one, Zipster. Could well be. Hence the hesitancy of course which for many is justifiable. I’m hoping for a better vaxx soonest. Meanwhile, I think AZ is the best so far.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 7:08 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 7:10 pm

Zipster says:
September 23, 2021 at 5:37 pm

Thanks for that. Keep up the good work.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 7:11 pm

None of these are real laws, just regulations and rules drawn up by statutory bodies using the ’emergency powers’.

Those emergency powers were included in Acts passed by your elected representatives.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 7:13 pm

Which is to say that they have the force of law unless struck down by a court of law on higher grounds.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 7:13 pm

Top Ender says:
……………………………
Absolute psychopathic criminals.

When do Australian Tax Serfs get a say in these frothing at the mouth farkwits.

How often does the Bass Straight Link break down.

No wonder we need Nuclear Submarines all of a sudden!

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 7:16 pm

Oversight for Bunter Hiden-Piccaso’s artwork sale?

Who Wants to Buy Hunter Biden’s Art?
The Congressman asking that question isn’t getting a response.

President Biden owes the public an explanation of the plan for Hunter Biden’s secret art sales, because Congress isn’t getting any answers. This summer a New York gallerist, Georges Bergès, said he would hold two private exhibitions, starting in September, to market Hunter’s paintings for between $75,000 and $500,000 each.

Mr. Bergès will soon receive a second letter from Rep. James Comer, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee, who wants to see the ethics rules worked out by the White House. Buyers of the artwork are supposed to be kept confidential, even from Hunter. “We won’t know who they are,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said, “so there’s no scenario where they could provide influence.”

The gallery is also supposed to reject abnormal bids. “In other words,” Mr. Comer’s new letter to Mr. Bergès says, “you will be the only person responsible for rooting out potential sophisticated, foreign disruptive agents’ access to the White House. That is unacceptable.”

As part of Congress’s oversight, Mr. Comer is seeking copies of “the ethics guidelines, created in conjunction with the White House,” as well as “documents and communications pertaining to setting the prices for Mr. Biden’s art.” He also wants to know who’s buying paintings and attending the showings, if and when they happen. But the odds of a reply are low, since the GOP lacks subpoena power. Mr. Comer made similar requests in a Sept. 7 letter, which went unanswered.

Democrats don’t appear eager to poke into Hunter’s secret art sales. Yet the questions aren’t idle. Who might be quietly preparing $500,000 for Hunter’s bank account? How is the gallery scrutinizing bids? Will the anonymity be kept? What if Russia starts spreading disinformation about who bought what, and for how much?

If President Biden continues to refuse calls for transparency, then the earliest opportunity for a full accounting might be in 2023, which is assuming Republicans take the House back. That provides plenty of time for mischief.

On an art podcast in July, Hunter was asked to respond to critics who are “coming after the prices of the work.” His reply was pithy and entirely in character: “Other than f— ’em?”

Mr. Biden owes the public more, but then Hunter always seems to get a pass from his Dad the President.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:17 pm

they are not concerned with losing respect.
Respect in the new world order is not necessary.
Only fear.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 7:17 pm

Top lawyer slams police ‘sling tackle’ at Flinders Street Station

A prominent Melbourne lawyer has slammed footage showing a police officer “sling tackle” a man into the ground at Flinders Street Station, saying the victim posed no threat.
Mark Buttler
and
Brianna Travers
less than 2 min read
September 23, 2021

Confronting footage of a heavy-handed police arrest at Flinders St station will be investigated by Victoria Police’s professional standards command.

A confrontation in which a man is slammed onto the floor of Flinders St railway station has been criticised by a prominent Melbourne lawyer.

Jeremy King, who specialises in representing clients in police misconduct cases, said he was shocked by footage in which the man is grabbed from behind and thrown onto the tiles.

The matter is now the subject of an internal Victoria Police investigation after being posted online.

Before he is taken from behind in what Mr King described as a “sling tackle”, the man is talking to other police who appear to be relaxed.

“The officer he’s talking to isn’t doing anything. That indicates to me that he can’t really have been posing a threat,” Mr King said.

“That footage was sickening. That sort of conduct is really dangerous,” Mr King said.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2021 7:18 pm

“He Raped Me Every Morning” – Snopes Founder Mikkelson Accused of Daily Sexual Assaults by Second Wife and Former Sex Worker

Has that been fact checked?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 7:18 pm

Roger says:
September 23, 2021 at 6:51 pm

The first thing we do,
Let’s kill all the lawyers.

OK…and who’s going to plead your defence in court?

It is proven that Roger is Shakespeare ignorant.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:18 pm

EXPOSED: FDA Sought Fetal Heads for Humanized Mice Experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGIC6gGeA34
Sep 23, 2021
Judicial Watch
475K subscribers
Judicial Watch received 198 pages of records and communications from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) involving “humanized mice” research with human fetal heads, organs and tissue, including communications and contracts with human fetal tissue provider Advanced Bioscience Resources (ABR). Most of the records are communications and related attachments between Perrin Larton, a procurement manager for ABR, and research veterinary medical officer Dr. Kristina Howard of the FDA.

Baba
Baba
September 23, 2021 7:20 pm

The project, backed by billionaire investors Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew Forrest,

LOL. Spivs gotta spiv. The extension lead project is back? I thought they had decided to make H2 instead.

I can’t believe Singapore is prepared to trust its energy security to a 4200 km undersea cable which traverses an unstable undersea trench.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2021 7:20 pm

You got me. I am in fact a woman.

My name is Jessica.

Now. I command you to wax my sack.

Knuckle @ 6:52 – hahaha

Barry
Barry
September 23, 2021 7:21 pm

Pleasant walk with the hound this evening near Caulfield.

Melbourne getting into the “footy fever”. Families getting together in reserves and parks.

Mask abstinence at approx 25%, highest I’ve seen it since Dan banned drinking with masks (6 weeks ago)

Warmed the soul a bit after the events of this week.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2021 7:22 pm

Fark, italics and bold worked – aren’t I clever.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:23 pm

@ZK2A-

We are clean beyond unforced error territory here. This is just outright thuggery.

The entire Victorian Police Force needs to be disbanded, district by district, vetted, culled and rebuilt from the top down. And simultaneously from the ground up.

Otherwise the Rule of Law and the public consent that permits the application of same is dead.

And the most violent actor/street militia still standing when the smoke clears will do the job for Victorians instead…

JC
JC
September 23, 2021 7:23 pm

Rex Angersays:
September 23, 2021 at 4:53 pm
Speaking of the fat fascist fool, is munty cheering on the Ante-Fa Vicstapo over at Phat Pussy, or is he keeping a discreet silence for once?

His blog has been hijacked by his very own Commissar, Steve of Brisbane, and the syconphantic toady nobody wants to have sycophantically toadying up to them, Homer Paxton (aka Not Trampis).

As such, JC and I have spent more time insulting them into enraged silence (Turns out Sampolit Steve reeeeeeally dislikes this ‘Conservative Catholic’ Catallaxy and its permitting toxic masculinists like twostix to post here. Wibbles his jowls an’ eberyfink. Hilarious), than do anything else.

And the Fat Man himself is Missing in Action…

Yea Stix, Stepford (Steve from Brisbane) just doesn’t like you. I stuck up for you too.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:23 pm

James O’Keefe & HHS Insider Jodi O’Malley discuss #CovidVaxExposed Part 1 Facebook/Instagram Removal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfZgq_yqvbE

P
P
September 23, 2021 7:23 pm

Call Me Ishmael (The Remnant Responds to Francis’ Latest Attack on Faithful Catholics)
Written by Jason Morgan | Remnant Columnist

This month, the Vatican announced it would require vaccine passports for anyone wishing to visit the city-state at the heart of Rome… Rome has reverted to her old ways, preferring the tribute of the world and the slavery of money and influence to the work of Christ.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:24 pm

I command you to wax my sack.

What size? Potatoes, flour or nuts?

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:25 pm

“The government doesn’t want to show that the darn vaccine is full of sh*t” – HHS Doctor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eru7UibGztE
Sep 22, 2021
Project Veritas

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 7:27 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

Call me naive, but I find it hard to imagine that a group who innocently sang “We are Australian” would desecrate a war memorial. Many of them have probably made the pilgrimage to Gallipoli, or would if they could.

Sounds like disinformation.

But for argument’s sake, if some did, it doesn’t discredit the majority, who were as peaceful and orderly as civilly disobedient people could be expected to be under the circumstances (and probably not carrying a lot of supplies by that stage of the day).

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 7:27 pm
srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:28 pm

PART 2: FDA Official ‘Blow Dart African Americans’ & Wants ‘Nazi Germany Registry’ for Unvaccinated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oWWcqGk1m4

706,515 views Sep 23, 2021
Project Veritas

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 7:28 pm

I saw the same Cali. Voice for Victoria put out the request 8hrs ago for evidence. Nothing confirmed yet but Conservative Treehouse twitter tweet today seemed to insinuate the ch 7 piece of the veteran from yesterday cleaning up this morning was staged.

From what I saw in various twitter feeds yesterday arvo apparently some in the crowd went to great lengths to leave the place clean. Though Dans militia would have cleaned up their 12 guage shells as well.

In summary who knows. Reckon though if the place was left like a tip the msm media would ha run it on recycle all day. Unlike the mess I waded through in Belmore Park adjacent to Central a little over a year ago after a BLM protest.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 7:28 pm

The entire Victorian Police Force needs to be disbanded, district by district, vetted, culled and rebuilt from the top down. And simultaneously from the ground up.

At the very least.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:29 pm

@ JC-

I find it hilarious that the single biggest source of traffic on the Fat Man’s blog, is Sampolit Steve and Paxton trying to thought-check him, and both of us slapping them back into timeout corner.

Why m0nty ought to pay us a retainer… 😉

Arky
September 23, 2021 7:30 pm

Zipstersays:
September 23, 2021 at 6:59 pm
Liz, looking at the TGA stats, I think the real death rates are out by an order of magnitude or more. Vaccine contributed to death rather than the only direct cause and therefore discounted, seems to be another way they are hiding the stats. TGA claims to have examined all 500+ reported deaths, I call bullshit.

..
I’ve translated Taiwanese stats on deaths after vaccine and bunged it up on the main page.
Taiwan and Oz have similar population size.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 7:31 pm

The entire Victorian Police Force needs to be disbanded, district by district, vetted, culled and rebuilt from the top down. And simultaneously from the ground up.

Has there ever been a situation in this country, where a State Police Force has needed to be rebuilt, in such a fashion?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:32 pm

Call me naive, but I find it hard to imagine that a group who innocently sang “We are Australian” would desecrate a war memorial

Vets group The Pineapple Express on Facebook did get sent footage of one individual lighting up a durry and apparently swigging from a bottle of Jack Daniels at the shrine. Some mid-aged male in khaki shorts and a white T-shirt. Unsure what association he had with the protest, apart from being there.

TPE understandably unimpressed.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 7:32 pm

It is proven that Roger is Shakespeare ignorant.

No. Henry VI.

But my retort still stands.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:34 pm

Has there ever been a situation in this country, where a State Police Force has needed to be rebuilt, in such a fashion?

Perhaps if you count the Rum Corps?

Apart from that, none that I know of. Though VICPOL seems to have had a particularly long and lurid history of incompetence, political partisanship and being personal enforcers rather than keepers of the common peace…

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2021 7:36 pm

Has there ever been a situation in this country, where a State Police Force has needed to be rebuilt, in such a fashion?

QLD.

Late ’80s.

And they did fair job of it too.

But police are, like the churches, semper reformanda -always in need of reform.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2021 7:39 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
September 23, 2021 at 6:34 pm
Only betas catch deltas JC.

Have you told Donald Trump?

Pretty sure he got Alpha.

As you would expect, and spat out the bones.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 7:40 pm

Thanks guys. My thoughts were running along the same lines. KD said the firearms used were explosive rather than air, so that would have meant a cartridge as well as the round?

So plod would have picked all those up. Someone (Rushkan?) said all the protestors left behind was a couple of pieces of clothing when they bolted.

It’s curious. Because no crowd around the shrine has ever left litter before I suppose (/sarc).

Apparently this is now a hanging offence for demos.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 7:42 pm

Preparing for the Intellectual Dark Ages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sccho6PIpIw

Sep 23, 2021
Discernable

Peter Hitchens describes his greatest fear: a major war that gives pretext for governments to narrow societies even further than they already have.

————————————
Full interview with Peter Hitchens: https://youtu.be/UhzM5nEsg-A

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 7:43 pm

This month, the Vatican announced it would require vaccine passports for anyone wishing to visit the city-state at the heart of Rome

Francis seems quite defensive this week.

Pope Francis: EWTN’s Criticism of Me Is ‘the Work of the Devil’ (22 Sep)

ROME — Pope Francis had harsh words for those who criticize him, saying such attacks are “the work of the devil,” La Civiltà Cattolica revealed Tuesday.

There is “a large Catholic television channel that has no hesitation in continually speaking ill of the pope,” Francis said during a meeting with Jesuits in Bratislava during his recent visit there.

Since the Climapalooza is next week he’d normally be moaning about non-existant global warming. So maybe the Covid fascist stuff is restricting his degrees of freedom right now, a bit.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 7:47 pm

ndolentsays:
September 23, 2021 at 12:52 pm

Doctor: Late medical freedom activist was a victim of ‘medical tyranny’

“about:blank#blocked”

It gets to where if it’s blocked, you know it’s more true than not.

Just have to remember to make those link titles as informative as possible.

A woman in hospital with Covid who was denied the treatment she and her family requested and was not ALLOWED to leave the hospital who then died. By what right do they prevent people from leaving hospital?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 23, 2021 7:47 pm

But my retort still stands.

judges are lawyers

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2021 7:47 pm

sfwsays:
September 23, 2021 at 6:58 pm
“Covid restrictions and penalties in Victoria”

None of these are real laws, just regulations and rules drawn up by statutory bodies using the ’emergency powers’. If the people ever get real parliamentary democracy there needs to be something that ensures that only parliament can make laws, rules and regulations, as long as they can delegate their responsibility things will only get worse. Can’t see it happening.

Don’t know at state level, but at Commonwealth level, Regulations must be tabled in the Senate for a minimum number of sitting days (10?), and can be disallowed by vote in the Senate, but this is not much use if the Senate/Legislative Council is not sitting.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 7:54 pm

Even the Grauniad and the bugmen whose ‘modelling’ their strident campaigning draws oxygen from, have started to realise Joe Public has had enough of their totalitarian bullshit:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/its-time-to-dial-public-health-measures-down-from-11-professor-behind-doherty-modelling-says/ar-AAOI7TX?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAgfYrC

The situation summarised in a musical nutshell (sorry Judy): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZipKdI1sY

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2021 7:56 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

There was a photo of the director of the Shrine having an attack of the sads on the steps, but the only “rubbish” in obvious sight was what appeared to be discarded items of clothing, probably dropped in the rush to avoid being shot by the VicStapo.

I think the link is a page or so abck.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2021 7:59 pm

James Newburrie on cbd activity

Disappeared.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 7:59 pm

Tucker dragged up some video of biden before he became senile saying he wanted unrelenting mass immigration to change the racial stock of the US away from white Europeans.

Just following on from my post the other day about medieval methods of torture and execution I now think this would be best for biden, who is nothing if not a rat:

Rat torture

Zatara
Zatara
September 23, 2021 8:00 pm

Top Ender

I can’t speak to the technical aspects of a 4200 KM undersea electrical cable running through unsecured waters, both state and international, but the security aspects are glaringly obvious. In short, it would be horribly vulnerable, cannot possibly be defended, and will become an incredibly expensive self-inflicted wound which will suck up scarce national defense assets and attention for no discernible value except to the investors – who will of course have to be bailed out with state funds.

Meanwhile Singapore, one of the most important commercial ports in the world, will be dark.

Worse than a mere white elephant, it will be a strategic liability of nightmare proportion and I can’t believe anyone is seriously considering it.

Baba
Baba
September 23, 2021 8:00 pm

FlyingPigssays:
September 23, 2021 at 7:47 pm
But my retort still stands.

judges are lawyers

Mmm. I wonder if Judge Mordy is a fan of Henry VI? He should be.

NADT

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 23, 2021 8:01 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

Probably spent cartridges & projectiles, along with empty tear gas containers & used flash-bangs

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 8:04 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

Michael Smith News is running with the story of a group of old soldiers and ancient warriors, who went down to clean “Alcohol cans, bottles, food, clothing and all matter of rubbish” off the site of the Shrine.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 23, 2021 8:04 pm

johanna says:
September 23, 2021 at 6:42 pm

I think BoN or somebody else here wrote an analysis of the Sun Cable project a while back demonstrating that it is complete nonsense. Also, I seem to remember reading that they decided that the solar option was indeed unviable and were now looking at an ammonium plant or something similar. Oh, and hydrogen.

It’s all pie in the sky to the max. The sheer logistics make it fantastically expensive to build and maintain, and right through cyclone territory too.

Having the undersea power cable in place though would be advantageous to someone setting up a nuclear generator in Darwin to provide reliable 24/7 power to Singapore, Darwin and perhaps Jakarta too. Transmission losses would be high though over that distance, and I don’t know if it’s feasible to run a cable over continental shelves.

Barry
Barry
September 23, 2021 8:05 pm

Zatara says:
September 23, 2021 at 8:00 pm
Top Ender
I can’t speak to the technical aspects of a 4200 KM undersea electrical cable running through unsecured waters

Power losses would be colossal, and the lack of redundancy would mean that any failure would take the link offline for 6 months or more ala Basslink.

It’s only value is as a subsidy magnet from the Australian Climate Fund. This is its true purpose. Singapore is not providing funding, they will buy the electricity , but sensibly are not contributing to the capital costs.

Baba
Baba
September 23, 2021 8:06 pm

Mike Cannon-Brookes has less than three months to deliver my robot car.

Australian tech billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes says he expects to see autonomous “robot cars” on the road within two years, in what he says will be a massive change in road transportation.

Zatara
Zatara
September 23, 2021 8:06 pm

Calli

If in fact the cops were using beanbag rounds they look like this.

They are essentially a shotgun rounds with 2 small bags in them rather than metal balls (shot).

So, unless the police cleaned up after themselves there would be both the expended shotgun shells and the bags littering the area.

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 8:07 pm

A bit old now, and 22 minutes in length, but I found it of interest:

How COVID Kills Some People But Not Others – Doctor Explaining COVID

(O.K., I’m not going to pretend I understood it all, but it’s a start).

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:07 pm

Indolent. He’s purged his timeline.
No idea why.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:09 pm

Why are people making a fuss about mess at the shrine?

Did they not notice the sudden departure of the protestors, or the reason why that was?

Baba
Baba
September 23, 2021 8:10 pm

When a hundred or so cops light up a crowd of 5-600 people with rubber bullets there’s bound to be some stuff left behind.

twostix
twostix
September 23, 2021 8:11 pm

Yea Stix, Stepford (Steve from Brisbane) just doesn’t like you. I stuck up for you too.

Godd man. Just like old times.

I remember one of my comments got front paged on the old catallaxy during the Gillard years and he had a total melt down about what disgrace it was Sinc put it there.

I wish you hadn’t told me now I have to go and mock him.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 8:14 pm

Australian tech billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes says he expects to see autonomous “robot cars” on the road within two years

Good luck with that sonny boi.

Brand New MIT Study Confirms Tesla’s Autopilot As Unsafe (22 Sep)

Hitherto the only thing protecting Elon from having his arse sued off over numerous autopilot crashes is that he’s magic. And that Teslas are holy chariots of Gaia. But that is changing.

I have a lot of time for Elon but not so much for Tesla.

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 8:19 pm

Might be interesting? (We could get some tips perhaps?).

Riders of Justice (film).

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 23, 2021 8:20 pm

I wish you hadn’t told me now I have to go and mock him.

Go for it. And you can smack his idiot mate Homer at C.L’s site as well, if you get bored…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 8:21 pm

Zatara. KD commented on the lack of skills with the shotty last night. I just took a close up look at Rukshans footage, looks like a 12 guage pump action to me. Absence of the flouro bits the oc tipped stuff they were using earlier in the day gives it away. Am happy to be proven wrong though.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 8:21 pm

Cormann betraying Australia; what a surprise, another conservative sell out.

Thanks for nothing, Mathias | The Spectator Australia

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 8:22 pm

Indolentsays:
September 23, 2021 at 7:47 pm
ndolentsays:
September 23, 2021 at 12:52 pm

Doctor: Late medical freedom activist was a victim of ‘medical tyranny’

“about:blank#blocked”

It gets to where if it’s blocked, you know it’s more true than not.

Just have to remember to make those link titles as informative as possible.

A woman in hospital with Covid who was denied the treatment she and her family requested and was not ALLOWED to leave the hospital who then died. By what right do they prevent people from leaving hospital?
_______________________

The same ‘right’ by which the NHS prevented parents taking their children out to get treatment elsewhere, ensuring they would die – the ‘right ‘ of the devil.

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 8:23 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 8:26 pm

So a Nine security guard was thrown to the ground by a group of Victorian police. I remember when Avi Yemeni was thrown to the ground by about six Victorian cops last year covering a protest. I don’t recall anyone in the mainstream media saying boo.

Rabz
September 23, 2021 8:29 pm

This is Melbourne Australia TODAY Thursday 23 Sept 21

Sickening – and that preposterous grotesque jug eared imbecile is presiding over it all.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 8:30 pm

Muddysays:
September 23, 2021 at 8:23 pm
THE MATRIX 4 RESURRECTIONS Trailer (2021)

I think its time has passed. The best movie on this theme was still Dark City.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:34 pm

Rockdoctorsays:

September 23, 2021 at 6:56 pm

Yup and the Hunchback was frothing platitudes about the sanctity of the Shrine …

Fuck off.
He and Slug-boy Sutton have been gagging to shut down Anzac Day for the last two years.
In April this year they limited numbers at the Shrine to, I think, 1,500.
Later in the afternoon, and less than two kilometres away, 78,000 people sat cheek-by-jowl and watched Collingwood cast in the role of the Anzacs, with Essendon reprising the feats of the Turkish machine-gunners.

Gab
Gab
September 23, 2021 8:35 pm

shatterzzzsays:
September 23, 2021 at 5:10 pm
Melbourne, today .. just after 1.00pm …
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440874896444121092

Sorry but that was Sep 8.

Still, just as bad as in recent days/

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 23, 2021 8:36 pm

Yeah, but did Dark City have John Wick in it, and Grace Slick singing along?

shatterzzz
September 23, 2021 8:37 pm

Incredible nature! .. 20 years I’ve had this succulent in the back garden .. never given any indication that it flowered .. no buds, blooms anything .. then today I’m watering the plants and ………!
https://ibb.co/Yp8vCJB

cohenite
September 23, 2021 8:37 pm

Caroline Marcus, some blonde haired bint reporter (sic) on Alan Jones at Sky compares palachook’s whinge about being attacked wrongfully by reporters with Trump’s catch-cry of fake news. She’s a pretty thing although her nose looks as though its gone 3 rounds in the MMA but she is absolutely typical of journalists (sic), even allegedly conservative ones from a conservative station, completely misunderstanding Trump. I guess they take what he said and is saying personally instead of constructively. Fucktards.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 23, 2021 8:37 pm

Call me naive, but I find it hard to imagine that a group who innocently sang “We are Australian” would desecrate a war memorial.

Was watching the live feeds and when the “protesters” marched up the hill there was a chant of “Lest we Forget”… and before they were shot at and forced off the monument, there was a shot of garbage bags of rubbish collected. And Rukshan actually commented on it.

As to pissing on the monument… I doubt that. Though I think it is almost certain that individuals would have received themselves nearby. On the monument … they would have been screamed down by the others all over it.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 8:40 pm

“Caroline Marcus, “

I’ve met Caroline Marcus…she’s okay…..bit ditzy. I wouldn’t call Caroline a “conservative’. She’s more a libertarian. But like all young journos, she’s poorly educated.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 23, 2021 8:41 pm

TPE understandably unimpressed.
ANZAC fighters were all teetotalers?
Who knew?
You gotta go, you gotta go. No facilities at/near the Shrine.
Without massed SS troops blocking your way anyway.
Any tags left on the Shrine?
Any actual damage?
All these collaborators can get fkd.
Stand and fight with us!
Communism isn’t the answer to “Covid”.

Gab
Gab
September 23, 2021 8:42 pm

Can anyone in Melbourne confirm that the Shrine site was left like a tip after the protest? The news was full of the story, including pictures of a lot of rubbish and reports of urination on the building.

I can confirm the protestors cleaned up after themselves while still at the Shrine. I saw 3 large garbage bags placed next to a council park bin not long before they were fired on by the cops.

What I didn’t see was the Stazi stormtroopers cleaning up after themselves

As for urinating against the Shrine walls, if anyone has any actual evidence of that happening then please pass it on to Real Rukshan.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 8:42 pm

I wish David Limbrick would run for the senate.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 8:43 pm

LOL Sancho, I had exactly the same reaction… My thumbs up.

Zatara
Zatara
September 23, 2021 8:44 pm

Rockdoctor

You are spot on. The flouro magazines have the non-lethal rounds in them and are flouro to keep the morons from grabbing a standard mag with live rounds by mistake.

Also see the drum magazine fed riot shotgun some were carrying (also in 12ga but with 15-20 rounds depending on the specific weapon).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 8:46 pm

Rogersays:

September 23, 2021 at 7:13 pm

Which is to say that they have the force of law unless struck down by a court of law on higher grounds.

Roger.
The biggest chance is when someone like Hunchback tries to make “emergency powers” permanent.
Over-reach always trips these arseholes up.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 8:46 pm

Yeah, but did Dark City have John Wick in it, and Grace Slick singing along?

No, it did not. But it did have some scenes filmed on location at the Rocks in Sydney where I had a good night in the 1990s.

twostix
twostix
September 23, 2021 8:47 pm

I think m0nty won’t let me post at his ‘libertarian’ forum.

Sad.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 8:49 pm

John Elliott passed away. Rita just announced.

Gab
Gab
September 23, 2021 8:51 pm

Tim Quilty was the only voice to speak up in Parliament for freedoms

“My adjournment matter is for the minister for police over the previous few weeks. VicPol officers have used horses. This overrun demonstrators and OC foam to blind and subdue them. Officers armed themselves with rifles and donned body armour. They fired on protesters with less-lethal rounds and physically assaulted pro-freedom demonstrators. In each case, police came to arrest demonstrators and to subdue political opposition. Police surrounded the demonstrators and violently attacked people who tried to escape. This tactic is used because it makes it appear as though demonstrators are initiating violence, despite police being the cause of the violence at these protests.
{…}
The Liberal Democrats support peaceful protest, civil disobedience and resistance to tyranny. We oppose these lockdowns. Minister, the action I am calling for is an unequivocal commitment that police will no longer be used to attack crowds of Victorians exercising their rights.

https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/mp-stop-voilence/

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 8:52 pm

“twostixsays:
September 23, 2021 at 8:47 pm
I think m0nty won’t let me post at his ‘libertarian’ forum.

Sad.”

Did you try? He does need some traffic.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2021 8:53 pm

Former Caaarrton president John Elliot brown bread age 79.

Pigsarse!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 8:54 pm

Former Caaarrton president John Elliot brown bread age 79.

The Hun cites him as “swilling red wine and pinching bottoms.’

Indeed.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:55 pm

The sads on twitter calling construction workers this and that.
And recalling the intense suffering of people ’employed ‘ in the arts sector who’ve probably made more on jobkeeper than in their ‘jobs’ ever.
‘Applause doesn’t pay the bills’
Then get a job in construction you idiot.
And a well known human rights lawyer (no not Julian) who pontificated that construction workers would never protest for human rights.
Also, you idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2021 8:56 pm

John Elliott passed away.

Bye, John. You had balls the size of Mars even if I disliked what you did with them.

rosie
rosie
September 23, 2021 8:56 pm

First comment goes into auto moderation. Monty may not be monitoring atm.
Ping him on discord.

Arky
September 23, 2021 9:00 pm
twostix
twostix
September 23, 2021 9:03 pm

Steve, since I know you’re secretly following me around the internet and have apparently Very Angrily sat in the corner reading every single one of my comments for the last decade, I just want you to know that I never got banned off old catallaxyfiles and you did.

Fag.

johanna
johanna
September 23, 2021 9:04 pm

Awesome flowers, shatterzz.

It’s cool when Ma Nature throws us a treat like that.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2021 9:05 pm

Hahaha – thanks Arky

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2021 9:05 pm

Barking Toad. Heard some interesting anecdotes from the Commercial Hotel in Heathcote on him. Nothing bad and apparently he was very generous. RIP.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 9:06 pm

P says:
September 23, 2021 at 7:28 pm

Call Me Ishmael (The Remnant Responds to Francis’ Latest Attack on Faithful Catholics)

“This month, the Vatican announced it would require vaccine passports for anyone wishing to visit the city-state at the heart of Rome. (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/249038/vatican-requires-vaccine-pass-for-visitors-employees)

Rome has reverted to her old ways, preferring the tribute of the world and the slavery of money and influence to the work of Christ going out to bring good news to those living in darkness.

The pope prostitutes himself out as chaplain to the globalists who designed the pandemic which has been gasoline to the wildfire of world revolution.

The Church has been turned into an East German bureaucracy. The name of Rome is no longer welcome, but political conformity.

The pope is antichrist. Think about it, ask yourself whether what I say is true. “Get behind Me, Satan!” has become, “How may I be of service, Dark Prince?”

Is it hyperbole? Francis dictates that all who pass through the colonnades of St. Peter’s be marked with the beast and boast of it with vaccine paperwork. The connection between Francis’ vaccine mandates (to say nothing of Biden’s) and the globalists over whom Francis presides is undeniable.

If you don’t think that the Vatican is insisting you get the vaccine so that Bergoglio can appease Pachamama, then you haven’t been paying attention.”

twostix
twostix
September 23, 2021 9:07 pm

Did you try? He does need some traffic.

I did, pre-moderated, comments never appeared.

I was very nice too.

calli
calli
September 23, 2021 9:08 pm

Thanks for the “rubbish” update.

A beat-up. Quelle surprise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2021 9:09 pm

The Hun.

Elliott, who died at the age of 79, was a relic of another time. He didn’t say “pig’s arse”, as he was parodied, but his aura of casual contempt could explain the assumption that he had.

Elliott swilled red wine and pinched bottoms. He was imbued with a prehistoric air of entitlement and a desire for a laugh. The Australian antihero, it was once said, Elliott was admired and abhorred for his “greed is great” persona.

Yet he was a complicated study, a thesaurus’ best friend. He bludgeoned, bullied and brutalised as an engine of many parts who always strived for another deal and another buck.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2021 9:10 pm

Power losses would be colossal, and the lack of redundancy would mean that any failure would take the link offline for 6 months or more ala Basslink.

The chances of cable failure are enhanced by the huge voltage needed to drive current through 4,000km of conductor.

Plus the fact that the cable has to cross the seismically active boundary where the Australian plate is crushing into the Eurasian plate. The Sun Cable map has the cable snaking through south of Kupang – crossing the Banda Arc, one of the World’s major earthquake hot spots.

Singapore is taking no capital risk on the project. And, unless the Singaporeans are being thoroughly wood ducked, they will have massive compensation clauses in the PPA in the event of failure to supply.

Probably Cannon-Brookes won’t have the Australian Wood ducks taxpayers on the hook for that.

Luckily there’s jobs in laying and repairing the cable.
Oh, no, hang on, they’re going to Indonesia…

Zipster
September 23, 2021 9:10 pm

First comment goes into auto moderation. Monty may not be monitoring atm.

he’s been rather quiet, the lockdown must be getting to him

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 9:11 pm

“twostixsays:
September 23, 2021 at 9:07 pm
Did you try? He does need some traffic.

I did, pre-moderated, comments never appeared.”

Check tomorrow.

I was very nice too.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 23, 2021 9:14 pm

Retail billionaire and Premier Investments chair Solomon Lew said on Thursday once Sydney and Melbourne exit lockdown, shoppers should be temperature-checked and asked to show proof of vaccination before being allowed to enter shopping centres.

I’ll keep asking anyone in my little circle of family and friends – will unvaccinated aboriginals be denied access to shopping centres?
I wish journos would ask Lew the same question.

Muddy
Muddy
September 23, 2021 9:18 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2021 9:23 pm

Otherwise the Rule of Law and the public consent that permits the application of same is dead.

Rex, someone at the old Cat (Arky?) said something which reflects my view precisely.
That is, I used to totally support the cops, even to the point of turning a little bit of a blind eye if they cut corners to nail a “crook”.
Now?
Fuck ’em.
Wouldn’t go across the road to throw a can of warm V at them.
And I will only give them information on anything if there is a direct benefit for me and mine.
They need to think about what they’ve lost here.

Barry
Barry
September 23, 2021 9:24 pm

And let’s not forget the root cause of idiot projects like SunCable – the foolishly low interest rates that permit insane IRRs.

At 6 or 7% interest rate, there’d never be a possibility this would even be considered. Misallocation of capital to hare-brained schemes is another symptom of late-cycle liquidity sloshing around.

srr
srr
September 23, 2021 9:26 pm

mh says:
September 23, 2021 at 9:03 pm
Craig Kelly MP
@CraigKellyMP

I was wondering why we were seeing lots of Vic Police ‘BearCats’.
Then I found out they were intended for ‘sieges or apprehension of armed offenders’. So they were NOT meant for ‘sieges or apprehension’ of UNARMED, PEACEFUL protesters.
Vic Police taking liberties with our Liberty

https://twitter.com/CraigKellyMP/status/1440991463232262152/photo/1

***

Nah, they were purchased to keep regular Aussies in line.
Only now are we hearing the truth from our politicians: “New World Order”.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2021 9:28 pm

“That is, I used to totally support the cops, even to the point of turning a little bit of a blind eye if they cut corners to nail a “crook”.
Now?
Fuck ’em.
Wouldn’t go across the road to throw a can of warm V at them.
And I will only give them information on anything if there is a direct benefit for me and mine.”

I think many of us feel that way SP. The trust is gone.

cohenite
September 23, 2021 9:29 pm

Cannon-brookes and his partner are putting up about $10million each of the $16 BILLION cost of this bullshit sun cable project:

https://www.reuters.com/article/australia-renewables-idINKCN24V0U2?edition-redirect=in

https://suncable.sg/

This is stark raving mad: solar panels produce DC which would have to be converted to AC to have a chance of making the 4000klm trip. That conversion would cost a huge amount and would still require huge No batteries in the world are capable of holding 30GWh.

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