1,587 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 9 Oct 2021”

  1. In those circumstances the ALP uses the ICACs of this world to overcome factional barriers preventing removal of their electoral anchor.

    Then the real question is the extent to which VicLab is coming to see TaliDan as a future electoral liability. I suspect that that view is growing, but might not yet be decisive.


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  2. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    October 11, 2021 at 11:09 am
    Queenssssland and Sicktoria are still building 1000 bed “quarantine” centres.

    Are they anything like “detention centres” which lefties demonstrated against and ululated about for decades?

    As Blackadder said, “Different Umboto Gorge”.


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  3. Are they anything like “detention centres” which lefties demonstrated against and ululated about for decades?

    If only…

    As a tax paying citizen you get a bill once your state mandated detention is completed.

    There’s no beach nearby to enjoy.

    And you don’t get to wander into town and mix with the locals.


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  4. Located in Sicktoria.

    Absolutely not going to resign.

    Holding The Line!

    Same here. I’m expecting a call this week asking me why I haven’t ‘updated’ my vaccination status yet. They’re stretched already so I hope they appreciate the extra pressure.


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  5. Is there a good summary of Sluggate anywhere? I heard a part of a Discernable video and the guy was arguing that it implicates Andrews as Health Minister, Sutton as CHO, the use of government departments to save a failing business and its owners with government links, and to bankrupt its main competitor, here iFoods, I believe. Is this about right?


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  6. I don’t have a job to get sacked from. Obviously cutting off the DSP over vaccination status is a step too far. We are not talking Nimbin No Jab No Play.

    I hope.


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  7. Can anyone be still talking about a virus as we head toward two years of a full state of emergency police state , that which we cannot leave?
    Those that won’t take the jab will now be sent to the gulags being built to protect the vaccinated, in what can only be described as the logic of the communist mind.
    We are at war, and we haven’t been at war since Feb 2020, but many years prior
    We have been sabotaged, fed terrible end of world doom propaganda, they’ve captured our institutions etc.
    So when did the war start according to you?
    How many years has Australia’s traitors, for that is exactly what they are, stopped any mines, dams, power stations being built, land being cleared, etc, even though to declare these projects and pursue them would have been an easy vote winner?

    Australians unfortunately, when looked at and studied by the scientific mind (I’m not talking about the so called experts the government dress in white coats that end up being ex Keating staffers and the like, but actual Historians, psychologists and the like) have to be seen as “as thick as two short planks””As confused as a dyke with a vibrator” when it comes to understanding the world, with a shocking, lemming like belief in government’s inherent goodness, and attacking Christianity from their high viz safety culture of virtue signalling group think.
    Stuff the facts or even looking at them?
    Vaccinate (they are not vaccines, they do not work as such) themselves, and throw their children into the volcano to sacrifice them to save themselves getting the sniffles!!
    Once your society sacrifices it’s children to save the parents, it will not, and does not deserve, to survive.
    These so called vaccines kill.
    And kill often.
    We have been at war for years, just too pig ignorant, cowardly and apathetic to fight back.
    The price we will pay will be like nothing the earth has seen before.
    A few million toxic colonial class disgusting white people on an island standing in the way of all those resources and associated wealth will be but history, destroyed by their own technology, digital technology.
    In fashions requiring minimal effort from the controlling class, the tyranny will be unavoidable and overwhelming and you will have nowhere to hide.
    “Going bush” will be a fool’s endeavour.
    The digital control of a passport and no cash.
    Absolute and utter control of everything you do, consume, say, think, etc.


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  8. I’m listening to Viva Barnes live stream.
    Barnes is saying US courts are currently hearing lawyers use parts of Buck v Bell in their defence against parties bringing anti vaccine mandate cases.
    This is post the University of Indianapolis folding.
    FMD, this should be the biggest news story in the US at the moment.
    Pro vaccine mandate organisations & businesses are using Buck v Bell.
    I am without speech.


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  9. It’s you that constructed the strawman this time BoN. The specufic question asked was do the vaccines actually contain foetal cells?
    The answer is no, I think everyone is well aware that they were used in an earlier part of the process or as part of a testing phrase.
    As calli mentioned yesterday, testing using those particular foetal cell lines seems to be ubiquitous in the food and health industry. As people are now aware of that I hope all those other products are off the list.
    Did you notice that the article also mentioned hydroxychloroquine is an end product of nazi experiments?


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  10. Cassie: Covid on Bondi Beach sounds like a great name for an eatery

    ‘COVID on the Beach’ sounds like a cocktail. Ingredients: tequila, lemon , salt and nut juice squeezed daily in the press.


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  11. We will never get back what it was like before, what little freedoms we had. That’s all gone. We may for a time have what seems to be freedom in small things, but only for a short time.

    We have proven to governments that the majority will obey when they use the tools of fear as they have done during this ”pandemic” exercise. Instead of standing up, collectively, against the government’s ”orders” and ”mandates” to have an experimental medical procedure, the majority have capitulated because of ”lockdown”. And no, this is NOT directed at anyone here; the pressure to comply is enormous. Physical, emotional, psychological – enormous pressure. I have seen friends and family hold out for as long as they can …. Look, this is not about whether you have or haven’t; this is about the fear machine the governments have used against us, and readily employed by their media, to bend the population to do their bidding; to bend us to their will.

    But there are consequences, as there are for those who have chosen not to comply with an ”order” a ”mandate” for an experimental medical procedure.

    The statistics do not add up to a ”pandemic” not by a long shot, but that doesn’t matter apparently. Fear has won and our freedoms are being eroded little by little each day. Look at the Bills they are proposing, the ones Dover has kindly linked to at the right hand side of this site. If 80% get just two little shots, why is the government pushing for an Identity Card, for Vaccine Passports, for forcible internment and additional powers under the Bio-Security Act? You think this will not affect you or your children, your generations to come? Think again. Will the next ”health order” be that a couple can only have 1 child or 2 and no more? We have seen how easily freedom of expression has been clamped down. Remember that pregnant woman in Melbourne who was arrested for posting something online that was in opposition to the government?

    We have seen in just a few months the Constitution, the Privacy Act, the Human Rights Act and many more Acts, developed from the 1970s and in force until this year to protect our privacy and freedoms, just thrown under the bus.

    There is already talk of a third and fourth ”shot” in Q1 next year. So as we have seen in places like Israel, Finland etc your ”vaccine” passport will be revoked unless you have further shots.

    The governments of this country have seen just how easy it is to get people to go against their conscience, their will. It will not end with the mandatory experimental virus jabs.

    I hope to God I am completely wrong.


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  12. Concerning rickw, if you are terminated due to lack of covid vaccine. Does that make you an invalid in the eyes of the law and can you then qualify for disability support?


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  13. In the last month, Lithuania became the first country in Europe to enforce Covid Pass restrictions in all the society. People without a Covid Pass are banned from most public areas: supermarkets, shopping centers, stores, banks, restaurants, cafes, universities, gyms, libraries, repair services, haircuts, and much more.

    At entrances to public spaces, people queue in line to have their Pass verified. Guards scan the Pass of each person, sometimes with a handheld scanner, and sometimes with an installed machine. If you have a valid Pass, the light flashes green and beeps. Then you may enter. The Covid Pass is in the form of QR code on phone or on paper. A person without a Covid Pass may not enter any public space. That person is banned from participating in society. And employers suspend you without pay.


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  14. Why are you implying I am lying baba?
    Why wouldn’t I know someone who is having trouble getting back?
    Apparently they are but one of 45,000 citizens and permanent residents in the same boat.
    It’s not particularly unusual.
    And no I’m not miffed about not paying 13k for an airfare though who wouldn’t want to escape from Melbourne right now?


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  15. ‘Like a drug, the machine [government] is useful, dangerous and habit-forming. The oftener one surrenders to it the tighter its grip becomes.’ – George Orwell.


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  16. rickwsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 11:10 am
    Located in Sicktoria.

    Absolutely not going to resign.

    Holding The Line!

    Same here, on all three. Had the conversations and the 15th October may be it .


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  17. Long post; but it’s important to get the Freedom details correct. Penalties apply.

    Halloween 2021: What you can and can’t do [in NSW] while trick or treating this year

    To trick or treat in NSW this year or supervise child groups any aged 16 years and over, you will need to provide evidence they are fully vaccinated or medically exempt from being vaccinated. Keep your vaccine passport or letter of exemption handy.

    As of today, groups of up to 10 visitors are allowed to gather in homes where all adults are vaccinated, meaning some children can mix with their friendship groups inside. Masks are still required in public indoor settings (including indoor areas of common property of apartment buildings) for those aged 12 and over, meaning proper face masks will be needed in addition to any included with costumes.

    For fully-vaccinated residents, 30 people can gather in outdoor settings, which covers trick or treating as it occurs outdoors. Vaccinated Aussies aged 12 years and under don’t need to wear masks outdoors.

    The rules for young people aged 13-14 remains unclear so best to err on the side of caution. This age group is usually too ‘cool’ to trick or treat anyway. If they do want to join in best if they wear masks, even outdoors, if not fully vaccinated.

    Unvaccinated Australians aged 16 years and over are limited to two per group, as per previous picnic rules in NSW, and won’t be able to visit households or mix with other households while supervising their children. They will also be required to wear masks while trick or treating.

    Simple enough?
    No, don’t thank me.


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  18. Dr Faustus
    Can you imagine the meetings where all those public servants sat down to earnestly discuss what events needed specific guidelines?
    Toshing tossers.
    They think anyone is actually going to police this?


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  19. Warrnambool real estate business complains on Ace Network News they are being called by dozens of people accusing them of discrimination by only allowing the fully vaccinated for on site property inspections as part of the TaliDan show trials.
    The owner wanted the “hate” would stop and hoped he was making a difference.
    No example of “hate” was cited.


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  20. Angus Taylor explains:

    In a signal to the Nationals, who are yet to agree to stronger emissions cuts ahead of COP26 climate talks in Glasgow, Mr Taylor stressed net zero emissions does not mean stopping all emissions.

    “Some in this debate think net zero means zero. It doesn’t. Zero is not zero,” he told an energy and climate summit hosted by the Australian Financial Review on Monday.

    Deputy Speaker, Llew O’Brien explains back:

    “I can tell the Prime Minister now I won’t be agreeing to any plan that’s put before me the day before he gets on a plane to go to Glasgow,” he said.

    I suppose it’s theoretically possible that a government could fuck things up worse…


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  21. rickwsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 11:43 am
    Just had a heads up call from my boss.

    99% chance of termination at this point.

    With or without “extreme prejudice”?


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  22. So when did the war start according to you?
    How many years has Australia’s traitors, for that is exactly what they are, stopped any mines, dams, power stations being built, land being cleared, etc, even though to declare these projects and pursue them would have been an easy vote winner?

    50 years is my guess.

    The western world’s left abandoned the working class at the end of the 60s, by which time it was obvious they would never revolt and install a socialist dictatorship.

    The left have been wearing the institutions of the western world as so many skinsuits for 50 years now and they have complete control of society. Political parties, MSM, “social” media, corporations, academia, schools, etc.

    The right were defeated decades ago!


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  23. Lithuania is fucked

    Went down hill after Marko Ramius.

    If the country that got freedom from the communist rule only 30+ years ago falls for this bs, how much hope does Australia have?

    Now… when is my 1.75l bottle of Wild Turkey coming I wonder…


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  24. This is nice. Instapundit picks up Tim Blair, whose blog post, highly unusually, is unpaywalled on a day when a large chunk of the Tele’s website is given over to climate bedwetting.

    TIM BLAIR: Nothing Green Ever Works: the perfect six-step environmental virtue loop. (10 Oct)

    Click through to get to Tim’s blog post, which is excellent Kafkaesque fun. I wonder if Tim is fighting a one-man guerrilla war against the Murdoch kiddies?


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  25. Halloween 2021: What you can and can’t do [in NSW] while trick or treating this year

    Anyone who believes that load of ridiculous nonsense has anything to with ‘science’or freedom, would have to the brain of a window licking retard.

    Nevertheless, don’t forget those are the rules from the alleged least authoritarian government in Australia.


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  26. convenient that Labor Vik Govt has complete control under SoE and targets their ideological enemies
    –Small business
    –Journeymen
    –Land holders

    coincidence?
    I think not


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  27. It’s you that constructed the strawman this time BoN.

    Rosie – Yes I did, inadvertently since I didn’t scroll up. Which once I did so I acknowledged and apologised for.

    Yet my original point is correct on its stand-alone merits, since these people are being mendacious apologists for a heinous practice.


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  28. 99% chance of termination at this point.

    I hope you can afford to lawyer up, rickw. If your employer doesn’t see warfare with his own workforce as a destructive deadend street, he’s too dumb to be in business.


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  29. Those that won’t take the jab will now be sent to the gulags being built to protect the vaccinated, in what can only be described as the logic of the communist mind.

    Struth, they have got away with something that is illogical and scientific.


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  30. Gab says:
    October 11, 2021 at 12:02 pm
    In the last month, Lithuania became the first country in Europe to enforce Covid Pass restrictions in all the society. People without a Covid Pass are banned from most public areas: supermarkets, shopping centers, stores, banks, restaurants, cafes, universities, gyms, libraries, repair services, haircuts, and much more.

    That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable. I bet Putin is not that cruel to his serfs.


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  31. That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable.

    Perhaps not, there are still plenty of people whose inner dictator is never very far from the surface. The lumpenprole frogs never even notice the water temperature increasing.


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  32. Rorschachsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

    Everyone must watch this. Bookmark and send to anyone forcing you to vaxx [especially your children]

    https://rumble.com/vndgg6-oct-2-2021-peter-mccullough-md-the-vxs-are-not-safe.html

    The Jab Pushers have no counter to this.
    They just want it to go away.


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  33. That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable. I bet Putin is not that cruel to his serfs.

    Where do you think Victoria is headed? We already have these vaccine passports in rural Vic. What do you think Morrison’s Digital Identity Bill is all about?

    Sign the petitions, flood your MPs, people. Even if it means nothing to them at least you tried!


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  34. In Rort, Rort, Rortitty Rort news:

    Queensland will soon be home to the world’s largest green hydrogen manufacturing facility. Here’s what that means

    An ABC hackette explains the fundamentals of Green Hydrogen science:

    However, on Earth, hydrogen doesn’t appear pure in nature and requires energy to separate it.

    This happens when an electrical current is passed through a tank of water, separating hydrogen from oxygen in a process known as electrolysis.

    If the electricity is generated from renewable sources, such as solar or wind, the hydrogen emits a vapour that has no carbon footprint.

    So, “hydrogen emits a vapour that has no carbon footprint”. A PhD in physical chemistry, right there.

    Dr Stephen Miles explains further:

    “FFI will construct a facility with an initial capacity to manufacture up to two gigawatts of electrolysers annually,” he said.

    That renewable hydrogen energy will then be exported from Queensland to countries around the world.

    To my untrained mind, this sounds like a a speccy electrolyser factory rather than a world-leading Green Hydrogen manufacturing plant.

    So much to learn…


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  35. Rorschach says:
    October 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

    I cannot fault any of his assessments of the data presented.
    His explanation of the incredible stupidity of a vaccination program early during a pandemic was particularly good, not something that is widely known.
    It explains the almost complete evolution to the current Delta variant in the US, with concomitant reductions of 50+% in vax efficacy when compared to the early Alpha strains.

    Overall, a brilliant summary of the complete takeover of the FDA and CDC by the crony capitalists over two full US administrations. We probably need to go back to FDR’s New Deal to find greater corruption of Federal Instrumentalities, but more knowledgeable Cats might correct me on this.

    At least there are highly competent, decent physicians speaking out in the US at a major conference.
    In Australia we have Colleges complicit in the false narrative, and State Medical Councils (not AHPRA..) threatening disciplinary action for medicos deviating from it.
    Some more of that “larrikin” Aussie spirit we’ve come to appreciate in the last 18 months…


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  36. Winston Smith says:
    October 11, 2021 at 4:28 am

    JC:

    Out of curiosity is there such a thing as arse cancer… not bowel cancer etc.. but straight out rear-end cancer?

    Yes there is.
    Arky knows the travelling salesman.
    He can get you a great deal.

    Thanks for the info, Turtle Head.

    Tell us : when should we be expecting China Airlines to front up at Melbourne Airport with plane loads of Chinese infantry on the move to begin taking over Australia.

    We’ve been trying to figure if you’re native or foreign flora, you complete imbecile.


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  37. dover0beachsays:

    October 11, 2021 at 11:31 am

    Is there a good summary of Sluggate anywhere? I heard a part of a Discernable video and the guy was arguing that it implicates Andrews as Health Minister, Sutton as CHO,

    The closure of I-Cook was in February 2019, when Andrews was Premier, so no chance he will be roped in.
    Sutton, on the other hand, has a lot of questions to answer.
    The closure notice was kicked up to Health HQ because the normal authority (Dandenong CC) had a conflict, in that they part-owned I-Cook’s failing competitor.
    Sutton duly signed it off.
    His defenders say he “had to sign it because it was kicked up to his level and …” (not sure where that goes).
    Given he might only get one or two of these referrals a year due to conflict of interest, don’t you think an inquisitive evidence-based sciency type guy might ask how the conflict of interest arose?
    This podcast might be worth a listen …
    https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/life-and-crimes-with-andrew-rule/id1260800644?i=1000517537142


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  38. Dotsays:

    October 11, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    Work out if your firm ever received Commonwealth grants. Are you actually are Commonwealth employee?

    Bwah ha ha ha ha.
    A variation on the argument that, if you hold shares in a shopping centre which leases a shop to Australia Post, you hold an office of profit from the Crown, therefore are ineligible for Parliament.


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  39. Faustus: I’m no Julius Sumner Miller, so pardon my ignorance in thinking there are other means of extracting hydrogen. Isn’t one by some or other process that ‘steams’ coal? The hydrogen plant is in Gladstone, which prompts ‘coal’ as the first word to mind.

    If any Cats, preferably those not booted out of Fifth Form science and told never to return, could banish my ignorance it would be appreciated. I suspect that whatever process they use there will be more energy going into the process than is produced.

    If the intention is to extract hydrogen from coal, of the energy-intensive irony.


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  40. When historians unravel the Wagner – Palacechook machinations, it will be compelling reading.
    Airport, concentration camp, aerospace facility, perhaps a ‘Unicorn Fart’ plant – mazing.
    What Olympic facilities will magically be constructed in Woomba.
    This lot leave Big Russ well in the dust.


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  41. Rickw:

    99% chance of termination at this point.

    That 1% shows they are nervous – they didn’t think you’d be calling their bluff.
    Get a lawyers business card and hand it over when they give you the bums rush…


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  42. rosie:

    As calli mentioned yesterday, testing using those particular foetal cell lines seems to be ubiquitous in the food and health industry. As people are now aware of that I hope all those other products are off the list.

    Rosie, do you understand the legal concept of “fruit of the poisoned tree?”
    I would think it holds in certain religious terms as well.


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  43. Local Oaf:

    The right were defeated decades ago!

    You’re only defeated when you’re dead.
    We’ve been on the back foot for a while now, but remember the US won its war with England and only about 3% actually armed themselves.
    The people are the sea.
    The guerrillas are the fish that live in the sea.

    Mao Tse Tung.


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  44. Biden is proving shockingly weak and inept and independents are moving hard against him. Worst foreign policy president in my lifetime (even worse than W or O), and economy is on life support.

    This is wipe-out territory for 2022.

    https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1447550954195259397

    Henry Olsen
    @henryolsenEPPC
    Biden’s numbers with independents continue to crater. His 5-poll average among I’s from this morning’s RCP is 34.2-57. Minus 23 among independents is ten points worse than just a week and a half ago when I sounded the alarm. He’s gone from +13 in 2020 to -23 in 11 months.



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