Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021


Antigone with Polynices’ Body, Sebastien Norblin, 1825

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JC
JC
October 12, 2021 4:29 pm

Getting the coof vax is like jumping out of a skyscaper upper floor window and calling out to people on the way down “so far, so good”.

Focus on yourself and make sure the soiled adult diaper is removed and replaced a few times a day, dickhead.

Apart from the repugnant moral aspects of aiding tyranny.

The purity test is never distance from this turd. It’s really hard not to believe he isn’t a leftwing turd.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 12, 2021 4:30 pm

Wow. Thanks, Dover.

How about:

“Playing with Children As If They Were Matches”

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 4:31 pm

So now you too think the most important thing in this time is to show deference to those who went along.

I’m struggling to work out how you concluded that from what I said.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 4:36 pm

A Bird has flown in.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 12, 2021 4:37 pm

calli says:
October 12, 2021 at 3:57 pm

The other thing is language. It’s a German dialect that is no longer “alive” outside the Amish community. To belong, you have to speak it and it’s very difficult to learn.

They are bilingual, the Bible version they use is German Lutheran with the page divided between the English and German translations. Agree with you regarding the furniture they make, quality pieces of work all made with hand tools, heirloom quality articles which will live for many lifetimes.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 4:40 pm

This was back in 2010. Naturally they are bilingual, as my Lutheran German isn’t quite up to scratch!

But you have to speak it to be accepted. Not many can or want to. She has to be a very pretty girl to tempt anyone to try…well, that’s what they said.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 12, 2021 4:40 pm

Having neither one of those ‘phones, nor a printer, I trust my word as a gentleman*,
will be sufficient should any of that vaxxport nonsense comes to pass.
*used in the elastic sense as per members of parliament.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 4:45 pm

Bullshit. You can tell.

Too quick on the draw.

I was talking about Grooglery.

Holster that weapon Sir!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 4:51 pm

lotocotisays:
October 12, 2021 at 4:40 pm
Having neither one of those ‘phones, nor a printer, I trust my word as a gentleman*,
will be sufficient should any of that vaxxport nonsense comes to pass.
*used in the elastic sense as per members of parliament.

Why isn’t “I can’t recall” good enough?
Here in Victoria that’s enough for any Labor politician to be able to get away with anything.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 4:59 pm

A Bird has flown in.

It’s the wet weather. I’ve a dozen rainbow lorikeets who’ve suddenly remembered that food is on offer on wet days. Plus some blue faced honey eaters and cockies. They don’t slum it at the Cafe on dry days.
Graeme must need feeding too.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 12, 2021 5:00 pm

Why isn’t “I can’t recall” good enough?

Perhaps if one was cultivating a Lying Shitweasel image.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2021 5:02 pm

Gilas,

I am NOT Groogs, or a sock! Calli and I were discussing the Amish.

I have been posting as Pogria since the early Blair years.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 5:03 pm

Supply chains you say..
In trouble..

Have a internal fitout going onsite, heres the latest from our builder.

…..of September but have been recently informed there is no Hardie Sheet available till the end of this year, more like early next year…..

This is WA, I bet those Eastern staters are hoarding it all.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2021 5:06 pm

This is WA, I bet those Eastern staters are hoarding it all.

If we are, and it’s a big IF, WA deserves it.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2021 5:12 pm

I have two beautiful hand stitched* Amish quilts I bought on a visit Intercourse many moons ago. Such an interesting society, I admire their total focus on ensuring their way of life continues with minimal change.

* perfect, all exactly the same size. My own hand twitches when I think about how many hours of work were involved.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2021 5:13 pm

Jeez, where did the ‘to’ disappear to in that first sentence? Now it sounds slightly smutty.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 12, 2021 5:13 pm

We’ve still got unused deposits in Wittennoom, remember. We’ll keep on building with asbestos and gluten!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 5:15 pm

have been recently informed there is no Hardie Sheet available till the end of this year

I suspect the decontamination process needs more development. Every time they put it through the chlorine gas, the gamma irradiation and the vacuum chamber it ends up as a pile of white powder on the floor. But can’t be too careful, WA might become infected.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 12, 2021 5:17 pm

I know nothing. I was in the toilet at the time.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 12, 2021 5:19 pm

Megan says:
October 12, 2021 at 5:06 pm
This is WA, I bet those Eastern staters are hoarding it all.

If we are, and it’s a big IF, WA deserves it.

It’s true!!! Why, just last night, a friend of a friend’s cousin’s neighbour’s best mate took me blindfolded to this old abandoned warehouse. It was stacked to the rafters with Hardie sheet – all sizes & all thicknesses.

I was astounded and asked him why? “Holding on to it til the prices in WA go through the roof then ship it there”

Fair dinkum – no bull.

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 5:19 pm

dover0beachsays:
October 12, 2021 at 3:33 pm
Mother Lode, I have your last locked and loaded

Thanks, dover.

And many thanks for this site. My heart sank when Sinc announced the end of Original Cat, but this site is equal- and in some ways, better – than the old one.

Sadly, not everyone is here – Nick, bespoke, Geriatric Mayfly – to name just a few, but on the up-side, we seem to have lost the most tedious of the trolls.

cohenite
October 12, 2021 5:19 pm

Good easy to read and understand resource book to repudiate the alarmist wankers:

Inconvenient Facts
The Science That Al Gore Doesn’t Want You to Know

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 5:20 pm

This is WA, I bet those Eastern staters are hoarding it all.

we tipped it all in a hole and ran over it in a bulldozer

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2021 5:20 pm

Had a meeting with the Company Doctor. Part of the process, no change to my position. Just working my way through the corporate meat grinder.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 5:21 pm

Fat Tony,

I knew it.

Wait till i let the chaps down at the local sucession shed know about this!

We will retaliate.
We will turn of the magic money spigot in Mcgowans (red dust be upon him) codpiece.
Thatll learn yas!

cohenite
October 12, 2021 5:25 pm

Interesting facts on the uniparty and the global elites:

“Note that our current federal Liberal Health Minister, Greg Hunt worked for the World Economic Forum in 2000 & 2001.
Former leader of the current Liberal-Nationals government in the senate, Matthias Cormann is now head of the globalist OECD.
Senator Robert Hill was Environment Minister for John Howard’s Liberal-Nationals government that rammed UN Agenda 21 across our country.
After the Keating Labor government signed it at the 1992 UN Rio Conference.
UN Agenda 21 was stated prominently in federal Labor policy platform in the 2000’s.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 5:26 pm

Another shot into the ether.

Price, the only thing she defends is her line at the buffet table.
Im not saying shes fat, but shes gone past cankles and at up to wristcles.

At this stage of the covid 3 ringed circus its time to let you know there is zero chance of anyone presenting themselves as a Liberal party member receiving my vote ever again.

Im on the verge of losing my job thanks to the slime infesting the various parliaments, 20+ years of work as a paramedic & miner down the drain because I dont play well with thugs demanding submission.

The disgusting outbreak of emergency powers which have sent politicians collectively insane will be held up in the future as some sort of lesson in mass hysteria.

There is no meaningful way for me to consent to a vaccination while simultaneously having my living threatened.

Its telling that not one email has been replied to by any of the major parties, state or federal.

I hope the Libs do as well Federally at the next election as they did State here, it will be well deserved.

I expect no response, as usual.

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 5:26 pm

we seem to have lost the most tedious of the trolls.

I spoke too soon.

I advise dover to smite Bird before he takes over, as he did at DashCat, until Adam wielded the weapon of disappearance.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 5:34 pm

Delta Asays:
October 12, 2021 at 5:19 pm
dover0beachsays:
October 12, 2021 at 3:33 pm
Mother Lode, I have your last locked and loaded

Thanks, dover.

Huh? Is Delta A ML, or is ML Delta A?

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 5:38 pm

I think we would have been happier had you not got the enemy shot and perhaps invested in fake ID.

This is hypocritical, Bird!

The ID – or passport – is the issue, not the shot. The concept of handing over PAPERS to leave our homes and enjoy some of our pre-covid freedom: totally repugnant!

Wake up… oh, and shove off.

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 12, 2021 5:38 pm

Having neither one of those ‘phones, nor a printer, I trust my word as a gentleman*,
will be sufficient should any of that vaxxport nonsense comes to pass.

And that’s where chip implants will be revealed for the dirty refuseniks, with thunderous applause of the complaint and grateful vaccinated citizenry. But since the chips will be so convenient, the citizenry will line up at the chip implanting facilities to get one too.

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 5:41 pm

Huh? Is Delta A ML, or is ML Delta A?

Delta A suggested that Mother Load’s excellent post should be on the main page.

Dover obliged.

Delta said ‘thankyou’.

Simples.

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 12, 2021 5:42 pm

Why isn’t “I can’t recall” good enough?

The best use of “I can’t recall” I’ve seen is in the video shared here yesterday, when police came to someone’s house with the printed out photo of a protest and asking the guy if he shared this photo on his Facebook page and if he was at the protest.

Gilas
Gilas
October 12, 2021 5:45 pm

Pogria says:
October 12, 2021 at 5:02 pm
I am NOT Groogs, or a sock! Calli and I were discussing the Amish.
I have been posting as Pogria since the early Blair years.

Mes apologies, the writing style is highly reminescent though..
Pardon!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 5:47 pm

Monty Busbysays:
October 12, 2021 at 5:46 pm
They are both at issue. I was emphasising that Calli used the opposite combination. You think Jews trying to kill a few billion of the goy is not part of the problem? Of course they will enslave any survivors they don’t decide to kill. But genocide is important too.

Here we go….

Anyone know how to reach dover?

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 12, 2021 5:49 pm

applause of the complaint and grateful vaccinated citizenry.

Should be compliant, not complaint, of course.

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2021 6:03 pm

Anyone know how to reach dover?

10 independent reports and the auto-smite function should activate!

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 6:03 pm

The ID – or passport – is the issue, not the shot.

Edit: the passport is abhorrent, unconstitutional, fascist (pick your own adjective), while the vaccination – an untested, unapproved gene therapy – is the medical version of Russian Roulette.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 6:04 pm

Well that’s me finished then, rickw! 😀

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 6:06 pm

I have never trusted those who keep angling to turn open forums into closed shops.

When people can’t handle discussions, debates & disputes as an anonymous person with anonymous people, on an anonymous blog, how can any of us be expected to believe their grand words anonymously blogged, don’t crumble to vampiric dust in the light of the real world.

This ‘Little Blogosphere’, ‘Select Blog for Selected People’, attitude is not something you find in real people of good will, but usually in professional narrative pushers who want to run controlled tests of how best to fix a broken narrative people have stopped buying.

In the rest of the social media world, real, unpredictable people are herded out of the Main Stream Social Sites into places falsely branded as, ‘where all the conspiracy nuts hang out’, for the same reasons.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 6:09 pm

Apparently the publican of the Singleton Hotel was pinged because he was unvaccinated and working in his own business.

They were waiting for him to open to all-comers, of course. Evil buggers.

But hey! It isn’t mandatory. Employers and businesses can choose.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:09 pm

And he’s off.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 6:11 pm

Which one?

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:12 pm

“callisays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:11 pm
Which one?”

Quite so Calli.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:14 pm

“Apparently the publican of the Singleton Hotel was pinged because he was unvaccinated and working in his own business.”

You couldn’t make this up.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:16 pm

This is, of course, totally false. No-one ever confused the study population with the demographic population.

Well, in fact, they did, in the piece you first put up where I initially, some weeks ago now, checked the figures and it was very clear that there was an elementary confusion being made between the study population and the general population figures (perhaps trying to fit it into the back story of the table in the report). I don’t know what piece of wild imagining was going on in anti-vaxxland by this time about the incomplete way in which the data had been presented in the table I put up above, but the interpretation of the piece you put up was clearly confusing the two groups. That piece did contain the RR for the study group and the contrast group regarding spontaneous abortions prior to 20 weeks, noting a close similarity, so it was clearly a finished version.

You yourself quote the researchers as noting this level of misinterpretation of their work and coming forward to clarify the manner of their presentation of the <20 week data. How about you put up a link to that?

Are you still of the view that enormous additional numbers of spontaneous abortions are happening in pregnant women due to the Covid vaxxes? That is the gist and the nub of it, after all.

Zipster
Zipster
October 12, 2021 6:17 pm

Anyone know how to reach dover?

dover is on the discord as baldricks, you can pm people there
let me know if you need an invite

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 6:20 pm

Haha, now that Joel has decided not to risk being knocked off by PHON in the next election he’s saying sweet nothings so he can get himself a nice ambassadorship or quango directorship.

Net zero emissions by 2050 a ‘reasonable ambition’: Fitzgibbon (12 Oct)

Don’t you just love Labor pollies?

Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 6:21 pm

Apparently the publican of the Singleton Hotel was pinged because he was unvaccinated and working in his own business.

Calli, he has also been active on a Facebook site, Businesses United Australia, which is devoted to places that will not discriminate against vaxxed/unvaxxed. Thousands all over the country have signed up to this site.

It’s heartening to see that so many are against the fascist dictatorship that used to be our Australia, but I was always concerned that the businesses which advertise there are setting themselves up for trouble. That is now eventuating and I doubt that struggling businesses can hold out against these concerted attacks.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:21 pm

“Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:20 pm
Haha, now that Joel has decided not to risk being knocked off by PHON in the next election he’s saying sweet nothings so he can get himself a nice ambassadorship or quango directorship.”

Joel has come out for nuclear power.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 6:22 pm
Delta A
Delta A
October 12, 2021 6:23 pm

dover is on the discord as baldricks

Dover is Baldrick?

No wonder I love him.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 6:24 pm

srrsays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:06 pm

If you’re arguing for Graeme not to be banned, forget it.

It’s one thing to argue something controversial.

It’s another to repeat the same deranged idiocies over and over again obsessively, so that half of every open thread is taken up by insane drivel that everyone here has seen a trillion times and that has been debunked a trillion times.

Graeme has already said every single thing he’s ever going to say many times over. Enough is enough. No-one needs to see any of it again.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 6:24 pm
Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:25 pm

“Timothy Neilsonsays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:24 pm”

Well said Tim.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 6:26 pm

Heres one to file away for later on..

During this period of “Jim Crohen,

As in “Bird would implement stringent Jim Crohen laws in a heartbeat if he could”…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Joel has come out for nuclear power.

Excellent. Someone should ask him what he thinks about the fifteen 2GW nuclear power stations we need for the AEMO grid.

Then film him retreating rapidly.

Franx
Franx
October 12, 2021 6:29 pm

So, fear is manufactured around the virus and concomitantly fear is also manufactured around the vaccine – manufactured in as sneaky a way as fear of the virus. ( Here however might not be the place to analyse.)
Our humanity, though, is a beautifully delicate thing, which sometimes means that coercive forces can and do overpower us. That is the nature of things and the nature what it is to be human. We sometimes can do no other than to bear the burden of our humanity. To carry the Cross.
And that applies to the prevailing coercive forces that are the vaccine. Many people making decision have young children to nurture. Others may have unspeakably sad burdens to contend with.
Yet even in our delicately beautiful humanity – indeed, because of it – what must not follow is that we live in fear of what is forced upon us. No. Fear neither the virus nor the vaccine.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:31 pm

On other matters, we’ve just been to ‘the shops’. The unvaxxed here may be interested to know that in stores like Bing Lee someone is paid to police the entry (into black book for black mark) but in two other smaller franchise chains we visited in the Supercentre they had the QR code up but it was hardly policed, we entered a third without even using the QR code, and no-one asked for anyone’s vaxx certification. Masks were being worn only on entry and removed fairly easily in the less populated parts of the store. Salespeople were very helpful and, status unknown on either side, came up close and personal without a thought about it. If you want to go shopping, just go. If asked, prevaricate, trouble with phone etc. I think most shops would just be glad to have your business and if you don’t offer they won’t ask.

Without declaring a vaxx status anywhere, we bought some new light fittings for the new rooms. I am delighted. My choice, approved by Hairy, was also vindicated by the saleswoman who said that ‘the architects’ are all very keen on that one. It was twice the price of others like it, so no doubt they were.

In the streets of Bondi Junction quite a few very worried well were wearing masks outside; unfathomable. I suspect the vaxxed are the most likely to also include the frantically anxious Covid-avoiders and that it will take a week or so for these people to settle down.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2021 6:34 pm

“Apparently the publican of the Singleton Hotel was pinged because he was unvaccinated and working in his own business.”

You couldn’t make this up.

Ahem.

This is more common than you think.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 6:35 pm

“Apparently the publican of the Singleton Hotel was pinged because he was unvaccinated and working in his own business.”

Snap Calli! Although the hairdresser deserves a medal too. My link is from NBN Ncl local news.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:35 pm

Yet even in our delicately beautiful humanity – indeed, because of it – what must not follow is that we live in fear of what is forced upon us. No. Fear neither the virus nor the vaccine.

That’s a very nicely expressed sentiment, Franx. I think it can be of comfort to many.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 6:38 pm

The propaganda just…wont….stop…

Cafe Dzajko in Sydney’s Tempe grateful for community support in wake of anti-vaxxer online video

‘No Irish, no Unvaxxed, no dogs’

But an unnamed man filmed himself criticising the cafe for displaying NSW Health signs on their front door asking people to show proof of vaccination before posting the video online.

Barista Andrassa Kest, 28, was working alone in the cafe when the man arrived and started abusing her for “walking implicitly into segregation”.
The word “segregation” has become part of anti-vaxxer rhetoric more recently, attracting widespread condemnation for its links to historical racism.

So whats the solution to government imposed apartheid rules??

You already know the answer…MOAR GOVERNMENT!!!

Mr Dzajko said he was not going to allow the incident to shake their confidence and they would continue trading in line with the rules.

However, he believes the rules are putting businesses in an awkward position.

“It’s not fair that we have to check vaccination proof [as] I don’t want to have a fight with somebody — how’s it going to look if we start arguing back?

“The government should do more to help police this.”

Zipster
Zipster
October 12, 2021 6:38 pm

The Group of Seven industrialized nations will call for transparency and privacy protection as part of a common set of guiding principles created for central bank digital currencies, a draft document showed Monday.

The 13-point rules are expected to be endorsed during a meeting of finance chiefs in Washington on Wednesday, at a time when China is taking the lead in the global race to launch a central bank digital currency, or CBDC, amid concerns the development could allow stronger surveillance of its economy and people.

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2021 6:40 pm

The only way you could possibly support Graeme’s presence here is if you were in lockstep with his world view and/or wanted to see Dover’s destroyed the way Adam’s has been.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2021 6:41 pm

Dover

Bird is still here.

Remember what he did to every other Cat.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:42 pm

“The government should do more to help police this.”

The government should knock it off well before December 1.

Where’s Perrottet?

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 6:42 pm

“rosiesays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:40 pm
The only way you could possibly support Graeme’s presence here is if you were in lockstep with his world view and/or wanted to see Dover’s destroyed the way Adam’s has been.”

Correct.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:44 pm

Now if the bullshit could end, we could figure out why these lunatics are right now murdering us and how to stop them.

Forgive me if I go … hmmm.

I try to hold the line of rationality against stuff like this.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 6:45 pm

I think there are other reasons to support his being here. But that would mean a complete change of heart on certain issues of fixation.

And that makes me very sad.

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 12, 2021 6:46 pm

Yet even in our delicately beautiful humanity – indeed, because of it – what must not follow is that we live in fear of what is forced upon us. No. Fear neither the virus nor the vaccine.

It sounds inspirational, but what does it practically mean?
For the record – I don’t live in fear of the vaccine. I don’t like what comes with it. Vaccine is but a vehicle for rolling out enormous changes in society.

Muddy
Muddy
October 12, 2021 6:46 pm

Do Australians have any freedoms left that cannot be overridden by State Parliaments?

No.

The only freedom left is to think. And subject to certain restrictions, a person has freedom to express his or her views. The State Government has, however, the power to override the freedom to express a person’s views.

It is open to debate whether these laws are just.

-Robin Speed, Rule of Law Institute, 5th August 2021

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 6:47 pm

John of Mel at 5:42.
The catch-cry of the revolution!
“I don’t recall”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 6:54 pm

rickwsays:

October 12, 2021 at 5:20 pm

Had a meeting with the Company Doctor. 

Did you record it?

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 12, 2021 6:56 pm

The catch-cry of the revolution!
“I don’t recall”.

Australian version of “Let’s go Brandon!”

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 6:56 pm

and that it will take a week or so for these people to settle down.

so, like totally normal then ?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 6:56 pm

I was half asleep earlier this morning an very unfairly reported two of Tom’s toons that I was merely wanting to uptick. Sorry about that, toon makers. And Dover, who probably has to at least glance at these reports.

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 6:58 pm

This is more common than you think.

What we need at this point, is State Control of the pubs.

Send all the Kulaks to Wellcamp

P
P
October 12, 2021 6:58 pm

I keep a close watch on this heart of mine
I keep my eyes wide open all the time

News at 5 on 10 played this near the beginning of their news. Detrimental of course to Perrottet.
Back in the late 50s it blew us away

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 6:59 pm

These people are rational.
We should listen to their not hysterical ululations with respect.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/oct/12/living-with-covid-is-not-an-option-in-new-zealand-we-need-near-universal-vaccination

The Delta variant spreads ominously and without controls, every infected person, on average, would infect six more, then 36, 216, 1,296, 7,776, 46,656 – we would get to more than twice New Zealand’s five million with three more cycles.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 7:00 pm

Men of Steel are always popular around Marcus Gras time. Word soon gets around.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 7:00 pm

and that it will take a week or so for these people to settle down.

so, like totally normal then ?

Tch, tch, Quick Draw. I didn’t say or imply that.

If they are less jumpy my hope is that Perrottet can step in.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 7:01 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:16 pm
This is, of course, totally false. No-one ever confused the study population with the demographic population.

Well, in fact, they did, in the piece you first put up where I initially, some weeks ago now, checked the figures and it was very clear that there was an elementary confusion being made between the study population and the general population figures (perhaps trying to fit it into the back story of the table in the report).

Once again we get the fable of the mysterious confusion. You’ve utterly failed to justify your ludicrous claim that the critique that the 700 (3rd trimester vaxxed in the 827 preliminary sample) should have been deducted from the 827 (total preliminary sample) was somehow based on mixing extraneous numbers with the components of the 827.
Because you can’t. You’re totally wrong.
(BTW as best I recall it wasn’t me who put up the link – I just commented on it. But no matter.)

I don’t know what piece of wild imagining was going on in anti-vaxxland by this time about the incomplete way in which the data had been presented in the table I put up above, but the interpretation of the piece you put up was clearly confusing the two groups.

No it didn’t. The critique about 827-700=127 clearly had nothing to do with any confusion with other data. You’ve utterly failed to explain how 827-700=127 could be derived from any such confusion. Because you can’t. You just keep asserting it and then handwaving.

That piece did contain the RR for the study group and the contrast group regarding spontaneous abortions prior to 20 weeks, noting a close similarity, so it was clearly a finished version.

That’s the whole point! The authors said that 115/827 was “similar” to their contrast group, and the critics pointed out that 115/827 was wrong because the denominator was wrong. And the authors have agreed!

You yourself quote the researchers as noting this level of misinterpretation of their work and coming forward to clarify the manner of their presentation of the <20 week data. How about you put up a link to that?

Show me where I “quoted” the researchers as noting “misrepresentation” of their work. I think you’re once again displaying your superpower of extreme misunderstanding. The authors agreed with the criticism when it was referred to them.
As for a link, if you’d read rosie’s comment on then 11th or my re-posting it at feelthebern’s request you would have seen the updates including the authors’ response to correspondence where the authors admit that 827 was the wrong denominator. It’s apparent that you have been bloviating without even bothering to check what you’re bloviating against.

Are you still of the view that enormous additional numbers of spontaneous abortions are happening in pregnant women due to the Covid vaxxes? That is the gist and the nub of it, after all.

Once again you display your ability to bloviate about things you don’t understand. I’ve consistently pointed out that the authors updated their data (which rosie’s link made available). I even proffered my guess as to why their preliminary data was so different to their final data, on this thread at 1.37pm (copied below).
But in fact the real issue is that you’ve sneered at the critics and their supporters when you clearly totally misunderstood their argument, and now that you’re totally unable to explain how 827-700=127 could be derived from any confusion of the type you’ve claimed caused the critics to assert that that was the correct denominator, you’re just flapping around, complete with unicycle, honking horn, soda syphon and tray of custard pies.

From 1.37
Speaking with the full authority and expertise of someone who did some statistics lessons as part of Darkie Harris’ third form maths class in 1975, I suspect that the whole premise behind the preliminary study was flawed. The total sample group was births notified between 14 December and 28 February, and the preliminary study was of the 827 pregnancies “completed” by around April. So any failed pregnancy was automatically in, while the authors’ own methodology seems to have excluded from their sample women from the total sample group whose pregnancy hadn’t yet reached normal term but hadn’t had a failed pregnancy.
But note that’s the opposite of Lizzie’s bullshit. She’s asserting that the error was by the critics, and that it consisted of bringing “control” population in to the equation, not excluding them from it.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 7:02 pm

Marcus Gras

😀

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 7:06 pm

PS Lizzie, I see you haven’t answered this question from feelthebern.
(Hint: the correct answer is “yes”. It may be an utterly meaningless stat, perhaps even for the reason I’ve guessed at, but that’s what the preliminary paper did in fact show, as the authors now admit.)

feelthebernsays:
October 12, 2021 at 2:28 pm
that 115 miscarriages occured among the 147 women you believed were vaxxed in their first or second trimester

Even though the study had it’s issues, isn’t this exactly what the study showed?

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 7:08 pm

“dover0beach says:
October 12, 2021 at 12:10 pm
I think both government actions are wrong but of the two the first is the bigger denial of Freedom!

Vaccine passports facilitate both the denial of earning a living and of entering the market place and both are equally important. Being refused entry into public spaces; that is, effectively being made an outcast is terrible.
______________________________

We’ve now had a whole voting generation that’s grown up being taught by endless examples that “cancelling” anyone who “offends” The Power Group/s is, ‘The Socially Responsible Thing To Do’.

Everyone who calls for, cheers on or doesn’t speak against the banishing of people from the modern public square, electronic media, has played their part in making this segregation of the “unpersoned” from the (currently) “acceptable”, not only normalised but something even (once), smart people are proud to be volunteer Stasi for in it’s permanent establishment.

cohenite
October 12, 2021 7:09 pm

Bolta showed some recent utterances by the chunks, about Abbott and that Australia should surround itself with warships so its soldiers could die an honourable death in favour of democracy.

And what will we have to back us up when the chunks go nuts:

Children in NASA space video with Kamala Harris are ACTORS and had to audition for the part despite being presented as normal kids

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 12, 2021 7:10 pm
MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 7:12 pm

Tch, tch, Quick Draw. I didn’t say or imply that.

answer the question you psychopath

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 7:16 pm

Send all the Kulaks to Wellcamp

May be an accident of geography but not even Orwell came up with the name “Wellcamp”.
Stalin would’ve loved the name for his gulags, I think.

JC
JC
October 12, 2021 7:16 pm

Cronkite

Earlier, you talked about the Nippon virus or whatever it’s called. Why would Xi want to release something with an 80% death rate when it would double back on his own people? Assuming that’s like a doomsday virus, how would China be able to access resources from say the Mideast (oil) when everyone is dead?

Also, how would he prevent intels from around the world infecting Chinese? Lastly, the US would destroy China with nukes. Nothing would be left.

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 7:18 pm

callisays:
October 12, 2021 at 12:19 pm

effectively being made an outcast is terrible.

Every social group has its “outcasts”. Even this one.

At least here the reprehensible get a voice.

Choosing to put “outcasts” & “reprehensible” together, is like Hillary calling Trump Voters “Irredeemable”.

I hear outcasts & I think of Joseph, David, Jesus, Christians; not only NOT reprehensible but the redeemed & The Redeemer.

JC
JC
October 12, 2021 7:20 pm

Majority of Americans believe Let’s-go-Brandon stole the election. 56% do!

A growing number of likely voters believe that cheating tainted President Joe Biden’s 2020 win over former President Donald Trump, and even more feel that a key Democratic election reform scheme will increase fraud.

In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, “It’s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it’s ‘very likely.’”

That is a significant increase from April, when 51% said “Biden’s election was tainted by cheating.”

The change comes as Trump has continued to raise election integrity charges and as Democrats have tried to force through liberal election reforms and shut down GOP state voting reforms.

In the new survey, voters told Rasmussen that they are not sold on efforts by Biden and congressional Democrats to expand COVID-era voting by mail, believing it will “lead to more cheating in elections.”

The results are a rejection of sorts of key features in House and Senate election reform bills supported by Biden and given to Vice President Kamala Harris to sell nationally.

By a 65%-28% margin, likely voters told the polling outfit that they believe more mail-in voting options will boost cheating. That included a majority, 51%, who said it is “very likely” cheating will expand.

The survey is the latest to suggest that partisans remain divided on the issue, though 95% agree with the vague goal of ending election cheating.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2021 7:21 pm

Back in the late 50s it blew us away

Yep. What a great quiff hairdo he had. It was an excellent time to be sixteen, as I was.
I didn’t get to see him but he was on the radio a lot. He was the boy-next-door type.
I had fallen for the US version. Kookie in 77 Sunset Strip. A bit more on the wild side.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 7:22 pm

cohenitesays:
October 12, 2021 at 7:09 pm
….
And what will we have to back us up when the chunks go nuts:

Hope this works, and apologies if it’s been posted before.

https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=PISBRL&PC=PI04&q=recruitment+ads+China+Russia+USA#:~:text=5%3A18-,Army%20Recruitment%20Ads%3A%20China%20vs%20Russia%20vs%20USA,-955K%20views%20%C2%B7%205

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 7:23 pm

“JCsays:
October 12, 2021 at 7:20 pm”

The Sniffer in Chief is decomposing before our eyes. Will he last until the midterms?

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 7:26 pm

Srr. I asked you not to address me again, out of courtesy.

I know you have been trolling me ever since in your usual passive/aggressive manner.

Please stop.

P
P
October 12, 2021 7:27 pm

I had fallen for the US version. Kookie in 77 Sunset Strip. A bit more on the wild side.

Yes indeed. Very much for the younger than me then. What hit he was.

cohenite
October 12, 2021 7:27 pm

JCsays:
October 12, 2021 at 7:16 pm

All rational points head prefect; assuming the chunks are rational which by their latest utterances, are not, certainly by Western standards. Why would the chunks care if the rest of the world are wiped out. They had a vaccine for the corona in Feb 2020. Would you put it past them to release a virulent virus like the NIPAH strain, if they were innoculated. They don’t play cricket, or league or union, so what do they care.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 7:29 pm

Children in NASA space video with Kamala Harris are ACTORS and had to audition for the part despite being presented as normal kids

She’s a great talent.

‘Cringeworthy’ Kamala Harris video on NASA featured child actors (11 Oct)

Veep featured in YouTube episode, ‘Get Curious with Vice President Harris’

The social-media reviews were ruthless, calling her performance “cringeworthy” and mocking her “fake enthusiasm,” but the ridicule ramped up a notch Monday after some of the kids let it slip that they were professional performers.

Seeing how she was thrust into the Vice Presidency maybe she should try for a ride in Bezos’ giant phallic rocket. First Veep in space! I don’t think I want to get curious with Kamala though.

JC
JC
October 12, 2021 7:36 pm

She’s a great talent.

‘Cringeworthy’ Kamala Harris video on NASA featured child actors (11 Oct)

Honest to goodness, I can’t figure if she’d be a decent replacement for President Let’s-Go-Brandon. It’s too hard to figure who’s worse.

Zafiro
Zafiro
October 12, 2021 7:41 pm

Biden/Kamala is the deep state laughing at you. If you believe otherwise seek help.

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 7:42 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
October 12, 2021 at 6:24 pm
srrsays:
October 12, 2021 at 6:06 pm

If you’re arguing for Graeme not to be banned, forget it.

It’s one thing to argue something controversial.

It’s another to repeat the same deranged idiocies over and over again obsessively, so that half of every open thread is taken up by insane drivel that everyone here has seen a trillion times and that has been debunked a trillion times.

Graeme has already said every single thing he’s ever going to say many times over. Enough is enough. No-one needs to see any of it again.

No, it was a topic raised long before he appeared.
I’ve been busy in the real world today, with real people and the topic came up with them, then when I got on and started catching up, I saw it came up here to.

I followed up further in a following post re: how that control of the modern public square has taught people it’s ‘good’ to literally “unperson” the Un-Jabbed.

It was also something warned of many years ago, by those, ‘conspiracy nuts’, who got banished from public forums by those now wondering where their rights to associate have gone.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2021 7:45 pm

I see Albanese has a few hot potatoes on his plate:

A federal member who’s confessed to branch stacking and the candidate from hell in Higgins who politicised the suicide of a fellow medico on social media and is playing the ‘I’m sorry if I offended anyone but…’ line.

He’s backing both. Way to occupy the moral high ground, Albo.

Shorten, otoh, in his usual cynically opportunistic manner, has responded to the first hot potato by calling for a federal corruption commission.

If these – along with Morrison – are the politicians we deserve we need to seriously take stock of ourselves.

JC
JC
October 12, 2021 7:47 pm

It was also something warned of many years ago, by those, ‘conspiracy nuts’, who got banished from public forums by those now wondering where their rights to associate have gone.

Yea USSR, you’re a one woman human rights advocate in line for a Nobel for disclosing Pizzagate to the world.

Have you written the acceptance speech?

Also, Bird’s most diabolical conspiracy theories are about the Jews. Where are you on that?

Franx
Franx
October 12, 2021 7:47 pm

John of Mel
Well, not living in fear of the vaccine, practically, would mean giving it the finger, either in agreeing or not agreeing to being vaccinated.
And yes, the vaccine is being used insidiously to change society. At present the momentum is overwhelming, and many don’t mind, or don’t seem to mind. Even so, in being coerced, our humanity is itself not diminished. Nor should we fear that it is.
Of course, there is working for change, yet that in the circumstances is a separate issue.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 7:49 pm

I followed up further in a following post re: how that control of the modern public square has taught people it’s ‘good’ to literally “unperson” the Un-Jabbed.

It was also something warned of many years ago, by those, ‘conspiracy nuts’, who got banished from public forums by those now wondering where their rights to associate have gone

Thanks for that.
There’s a meme isn’t there: “What’s the difference between a lunatic right wing conspiracy theory and a prima facie correct hypothesis? Usually around two years.”

rosie
rosie
October 12, 2021 7:50 pm

No it wasn’t.
Anti Semitism has never been welcome at the cat, and Graeme afaik has been here since the very beginning when fractional reserves were topic de jour, though since I arrived in late 2013 he was usually being booted as quickly as he reappeared.
What utter tosh you spout to defend the indefensible, and what could possibly be your motive to want the site awash with blatant disgraceful conspiracy laden antisemetism?

Zipster
Zipster
October 12, 2021 7:51 pm

Earlier, you talked about the Nippon virus or whatever it’s called. Why would Xi want to release something with an 80% death rate when it would double back on his own people?

Depends on transmission. nipah isn’t terribly transmissible unlink sars-cov2. It’s more a psychological weapon. It would be a few weeks before an outbreak is detected, as is, not many people would die. It needs to be far more transmissible.

CCP would line up a vaccine before they release anything and close the borders. It’s real concern that wuhan was given these deadly viruses, god knows how they are modifying them.

The Beijing olympics is coming up, echos of the ’36 Berlin olympics….

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 7:53 pm

cohenitesays:
October 12, 2021 at 7:47 pm

If I was a billionaire I’d buy houses next to every politician, bureaucrat, judge or AAT member who was inflicting this on us and give free accommodation to some of my Sudanese brethren.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2021 7:53 pm

Honest to goodness, I can’t figure if she’d be a decent replacement for President Let’s-Go-Brandon. It’s too hard to figure who’s worse.

She’s worse…much worse, as difficult as that is to conceive.

In fact, there’s been some conjecture that Biden chose her as VP precisely because of her ineptitude (whilst yet ticking several identity boxes); she’s been set up to be a foil for him.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 7:53 pm

Albo wouldn’t even know which number bus goes to the high moral ground.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 12, 2021 8:00 pm

In light of australian pollies, I’m coming around to feeling more kindly towards the CCP. It’s true that they are evil, immoral, power obsessed shits, but they aren’t stupid, evil, immoral, power obsessed shits. Well, not as stupid as ours are.

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 8:00 pm

callisays:
October 12, 2021 at 7:26 pm
Srr. I asked you not to address me again, out of courtesy.

I know you have been trolling me ever since in your usual passive/aggressive manner.

Please stop.

Sorry, I meant to leave you out & only address the point (a very important pointin this time of Govt Mandated Segregation of the ‘clean from the ‘unclean’), but as I mentioned, I’ve been busy, I’m very tired & still doing things between catching up.

Hang on, I didn’t read your whole post before returning the ‘courtesy’ with an apology, but now I see … you are very wrong about a lot and somehow now I’m not allowed to explain how.
How very clever of you.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 8:01 pm

Speaking of anti-Semitism…..Holocaust survivor Eddie Jaku has passed away, he was 101 years old. He was a German Jew, born in 1920. Eddie clearly remembered Hitler’s election and accession to power, he remembered Kristallnacht, he survived Buchenwald and Auschwitz concentration camps.

I met him a few times……a happy and optimistic man despite everything he went through. His parents and all his family were murdered in Auschwitz.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2021 8:02 pm

Albo wouldn’t even know which number bus goes to the high moral ground.

Not the route that goes past the rub & tug shop then?

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 8:05 pm

Come off it, srr.

It took you a whole half hour to work out a response to a very simple request.

And, Bird. Last time I advocate for your inclusion. You can ping off too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 8:06 pm

She’s worse…much worse, as difficult as that is to conceive.

Oh yes. I thought it would be hard to find a veep worse than Dan Quayle, but Kamala has exceeded every expectation. She seems to have the reverse Midas touch coupled with an ability to avoid responsibility and effort which would make a 1968 stoner proud. I have been watching with interest, and amazement. The cackling is a cherry on top.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2021 8:07 pm

I met him a few times……a happy and optimistic man despite everything he went through. His parents and all his family were murdered in Auschwitz.

A truly remarkable man, Cassie.

Brisbane Ch. 9 paid tribute to him on the news bulletin my wife watches.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 12, 2021 8:07 pm

Now you are going to have to get hold of Ivermectin sheep drench before the enemy scoops it all up.

DO NOT USE ANY TOPICAL FORM OF IVERMECTIN
You need the injectable and drink it.

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2021 8:10 pm

Question for the blog.

I need a “devils advocate” sort of thing here.

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

rickw
rickw
October 12, 2021 8:13 pm

Did you record it?

Moi? Would I do something like that?! 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 8:13 pm

Still an improvement on Peanut Head who only knows about the high moral ground because he flew over it in Dick Pratt’s private jet.

Albo knows all about bus numbers because he used to discuss them with his Mum on his way home to their housing commission flat (as told to Mavis for an upcoming biography). He knows they are useful for his investment properties but has to ask a staffer to look them up. He still doesn’t know how they find this stuff out.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 8:13 pm

I was going to say “breathing” , 132, but after the PrimeIdiot gets back from Glasgow that might be sanctioned too.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 8:15 pm

Crackhouse.?
Phone scam caller?
Serial single mum/ chuck out time sperm donor?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 8:15 pm

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

A wank?

Winston Smith
October 12, 2021 8:16 pm

Zipster:

Currently the US and Euroweenies seem to think they can contain and appease china. It’s ambition will grow with its military strength. The arms race is accelerating. Another major humiliation lurks in the shadows.

I’m fairly sure the next war will be biological. It leaves China (with a previously vaccinated population) in charge of everything without turning it into a wasteland. Her cost will be a couple of million dead citizens to make it look like she is suffering as well.
It’s depressing, but as I said earlier, “The Future is Han.”

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 8:17 pm

Rationed.

You know it makes sense.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 8:17 pm

KD walrus ravaging in the alleyway behind the kebab shop…
Or was it Christeen?
Or phatty Phillip Adams?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:19 pm

Spike proteins already getting into your brain and adrenals. That is uncharacteristically poopy-pants of you.

Hello again, Graeme. Finally finished sulking about all the aether being eaten by my legion Nano-wrigglers, eh? 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 8:22 pm

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

Sex.

But not brothels. You aren’t allowed to visit them until 1 Dec.

I love NSW bureaucrats. They make the Puritans look like libertarians.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2021 8:22 pm

Still an improvement on Peanut Head who only knows about the high moral ground because he flew over it in Dick Pratt’s private jet.

Probs.

Albo at least seems to be within the normal parameters of moral delinquency.

Which is to say he’s a flawed human being, but not a full blown psychological case study.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 8:23 pm

Re Eddie Jaku.
Mrs Panzer read his book and says it is one of the most uplifting things she has ever read.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 8:24 pm

It’s depressing, but as I said earlier, “The Future is Han.”

Not sure about that. They have been there before and stuffed it up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 8:25 pm

rickwsays:

October 12, 2021 at 8:13 pm

Did you record it?

Moi? Would I do something like that?!

No, I meant recording with consent.
How could they refuse?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:33 pm

It’s depressing, but as I said earlier, “The Future is Han.”

Not sure about that. They have been there before and stuffed it up.

Yep. Thousands of years of a cycle of alternating anarchy and warlordism, followed by the strongest survivor applying their own vicious and legalistic autocracy and then falling back into the alternating anarchy and warlordism again.

The CCP is merely the latest ‘Imperial Dynasty,’ and see themselves as such. However, we may yet find that their dynasty is the shortest recorded one of them all…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:34 pm

The story itself is idiotic.

You are absolutely correct in your descriptions of your incessant monomania, Graeme. Which is why we wish you would leave and go properly mad in the comfort and security of your own home.

Leave us be.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 8:38 pm

Oops hit upvote instead of nanowriggler attack on the latest guano pile.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 8:41 pm

Set nano wrigglers to stun.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:42 pm

Then in keeping with rotten kippers they transferred their sins onto us using the holocaust lie.

The way you incessantly keep trying to slime, defame and drive us all away from each other and the Cat we love with your schizoid toxicity, Graeme?

Sinc is gone, shitbox! Your imaginary hatred and enmity was with him. Fuck off and leave us be. We don’t want you.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 8:42 pm

😀

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 8:43 pm

Bother. That grin was for the stunning nanna wrigglers. This thread is like quicksilver.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 8:44 pm

“dover0beachsays:
October 12, 2021 at 8:43 pm”

Thanks DB.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2021 8:46 pm

Never clicked “Report comment” before now. Just done so twice.

Please Graeme, I wish you well, but to correspond on this site you have to learn to behave appropriately.
I’ve spent much of the evening not writing comments about VP Kamala which are entirely accurate but which are unacceptable in polite company (as well as being hilarious). I wasn’t entirely successful, but you also need to control yourself in this way, like I struggle to.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:47 pm

Set nano wrigglers to stun.

Please don’t- They are still farting out pocket universes after I sent them to eat all Bird’s aether.

The incessant flurry of Big Bangs and spontaneous implosions of reality are worse than standing next to an entire skip full of penny bungers, after setting it on fire.

Set your Wrigglers to Scum- It’s safer for your hearing and night vision…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 8:48 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 12, 2021 at 8:15 pm

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

A wank?

You need a permit in Victoria.
I’ve got twelve permit requests outstanding.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2021 8:49 pm

“Also, Bird’s most diabolical conspiracy theories are about the Jews. Where are you on that?”

I note your question remains unanswered JC.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:51 pm

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

Stairs.

For now…

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 8:52 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
October 12, 2021 at 7:49 pm

I followed up further in a following post re: how that control of the modern public square has taught people it’s ‘good’ to literally “unperson” the Un-Jabbed.

It was also something warned of many years ago, by those, ‘conspiracy nuts’, who got banished from public forums by those now wondering where their rights to associate have gone

Thanks for that.
There’s a meme isn’t there: “What’s the difference between a lunatic right wing conspiracy theory and a prima facie correct hypothesis? Usually around two years.”

Yeah, you gotta laugh or you’d cry, when you read back on some of the things that the subverter’s said, ‘could never happen’, when they were forewarned of, that are now cheered on as if perfectly normal when they are actually, literally insane.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:53 pm

Bird should be back behind the firewall now.

Nope. He’s determined to destroy the place tonight.

Let’s see how many of his IP addresses he uses up this time…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 8:56 pm

srrsays:
October 12, 2021 at 8:52 pm

Back in your box, srr.

Your relevance deprivation sydrome is sadder and more craven to watch than Bird’s arseholery.

Take a night off- When Bird has exhausted all his IP adresses and is gone, you can resume being a toxic gnome who occasionally spouts something profound enough to distract us from your usual manias…

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2021 8:58 pm

Grime Bird should have to through a massive 2FA sidequest, each time he posts something, he gets sent each post ever made here so far as a separate email.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 8:59 pm

Nano-wrigglers are go!!!

Winston Smith
October 12, 2021 9:00 pm

Feelthebern:
A full copy of the surveillance regime in China and the uni student.
Scary shit – and now probably working in Australia.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 9:01 pm

Counter-spam, Dot?

I’d much prefer him getting something that either makes his modem explode, or crash-delete System32.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 9:03 pm

@ Winston- You’re a bit behind there, mate.

I have acquaintances who have known Chinese friends who pointed out the spies, monitors and commissars policing them in Oz universities some years back, or were subject to blatant ‘recruiting’ or cultivation attempts.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2021 9:03 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2021 9:03 pm

132andBushsays:
October 12, 2021 at 8:10 pm
Question for the blog.

I need a “devils advocate” sort of thing here.

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

I think that we are still allowed to go to the toilet (no more than three squares of paper, however, one to wipe, one to dry and one to polish) and to bed without specific approval. However, getting up in the morning unapproved might be “problematic”.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 12, 2021 9:04 pm

Re Eddie Jaku.
Mrs Panzer read his book and says it is one of the most uplifting things she has ever read.

Indeed.

Reminded me in some ways of AB Facey’s A Fortunate Life.

Both highly recommended.

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2021 9:05 pm

I said in the broader community!!

Looks like some people like “taking it to the streets”.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 12, 2021 9:05 pm

Rex

Hush hush on system 32.
No- one is supposed to guess that’s the kosher kontrol for the nanowrigglers. Or their less technical term baby foreskin powder….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 9:07 pm

New Catallaxy.
Australia’s leading self-flagellation, martyrdom and auto-canonisation blog for vax conscientious objectors.
But at least we avoided mention of box-cars, camp guards and piano wire today, so there’s that to be thankful for.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2021 9:07 pm

Bush:
For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

Being able to have our inner thoughts. (And unfortunately I’m not making a joke).

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 12, 2021 9:07 pm

I’ve got twelve permit requests outstanding

Doesn’t hurt to be prepared. The last thing you want to be is stumbling around with half a mogrel trying to get your paperwork in order.

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2021 9:09 pm

BBS,

Nice one.

Winston Smith
October 12, 2021 9:09 pm

Eyrie:

Back in early 1978 there was allegedly what appeared to be a nuclear test off South Africa. The US and USSR refused to acknowledge it even though their satellites designed for such detections (VELA IIRC although I hear the GPS satellites have a nuke detect package on them) would have easily detected it.

I remember the incident well.
I also remember that Taiwan was mentioned a couple of times, but it all faded into the background…

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 9:13 pm

For NSW in particular can anyone name something in the broader community that now does not require government sanction/approval?

Stupidity?
Gullibility?
Sanctimoniousness?
Karenning?
I’m quite confident they’re still “freedoms” in Victoria.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 9:13 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 12, 2021 at 9:07 pm

I’ve got twelve permit requests outstanding

Doesn’t hurt to be prepared. The last thing you want to be is stumbling around with half a mogrel trying to get your paperwork in order.

That’s just for tomorrow.
I need the paperwork to come through pronto.
I can’t afford $1,562 x 12.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 9:14 pm

Sancho, the checklist for tomorrow:

HOP
Tumbrils
Gluten (WA)
Scatter cushions

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 12, 2021 9:14 pm

Does anyone here live in the Ultimo area and have a bulldozer that can be borrowed for one particular job?
Asking for a friend.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Hush hush on system 32.
No- one is supposed to guess that’s the kosher kontrol for the nanowrigglers

Oh, so that’s why they got so upset when I accidentally bricked my computer the other week.

I had an angry black cloud crashing about the house for a day and a half, eating all the chocolate biscuits and trying to incinerate the cat.

And I couldn’t blame Wee Jock the Scottie Terrier for the mess…

srr
srr
October 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Oh good, now I see you have re-opened communications … or is this another case of Open For You, Not For Me?

calli says:
October 12, 2021 at 8:05 pm

Come off it, srr.

It took you a whole half hour to work out a response to a very simple request.
[…]

Maybe you’re like some other super-sleuth’s here who hold some magical right to decree what other people are really thinking & doing better than they can themselves?

You know I haven’t been here most of the day and I already told you, I’m tired & I’m BUSY, doing things between catching up & posting.

I am neither a speed reader nor touch typist, yet somehow you expect me to drop everything and breathlessly wait for replies (that I rarely get anyway and even less so since the latest silent treatment ploy – talk about passive/aggressive), to instantly reply back to, and my not doing so somehow makes me guilty of some shit you’ve made up in your head.

Winston Smith
October 12, 2021 9:19 pm

Feelthebern:

Wally, they give one of the most active breeds, a kelpie, to a guy in a wheelchair.
Unbelievable.
It’s amazes me how many people who know nothing about dogs are running shelters.
Fucking nuts.

Perhaps they are aware of what they’re doing. I’ve met some utter bastards in positions they really should not be allowed to be in.
Very active and mistreated dog + bloke unable to get away from it = mauled human.
Never underestimate the ability of some humans to be inhumane.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Miss Anthropistsays:
October 12, 2021 at 9:14 pm
Does anyone here live in the Ultimo area and have a bulldozer that can be borrowed for one particular job?
Asking for a friend.

Will Sir be needing a plough and industrial quantities of salt with that?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 9:21 pm

Spack off, srr.

When you aren’t spouting crazy, you’re acting all butthurt about being called out for spouting crazy.

If being held to account upsets you so, either stop spouting the crazy, or go full Bird.

Winston Smith
October 12, 2021 9:21 pm

Gilas:

The actual statement was at 34’07”-ish, then the graphs of the incidence of the Delta strain, the preceding few minutes also informative..

Thanks for that – appreciated.

twostix
twostix
October 12, 2021 9:22 pm

Which government is Amnesty Int condeming here?

In January, security forces used unlawful force, including firing pointed pellets from airguns, rubber bullets and tear gas, and using pepper spray, to disperse peaceful protesters demanding justice….They also kicked, punched and beat protesters and carried out scores of arbitrary arrests.1

In January and February, to quash independent reporting…. the authorities targeted journalists for arbitrary arrest and detention, house searches and interrogations.

The authorities took measures to stop independent reporting on COVID-19 and silence criticism about their handling of the pandemic. The Ministry… ordered media and journalists to use only official sources and statistics in their reporting. Cyber police established a special task force to tackle “cyber rumours” and “fake news” related to COVID-19 on social media; and scores of journalists, social media users, health care workers and others were arrested, summoned for questioning or given warnings. In April…. a doctor from …. was charged with “spreading propaganda against the system” and “disturbing public opinion” for his Instagram posts about COVID-19.

calli
calli
October 12, 2021 9:22 pm

Hang on, I didn’t read your whole post before returning the ‘courtesy’ with an apology, but now I see … you are very wrong about a lot and somehow now I’m not allowed to explain how.
How very clever of you.

Yet you quoted it.

Stop lying. Please. Now leave me alone.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 12, 2021 9:23 pm

and will now be having your brains eaten out by critters coming under at least three categories.

Not without my direct, personal permission or Carpe Jugulum’s, they won’t.

You leave my Nano-Wrigglers out of this,Graeme. They feel most vilified by your libels…

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 9:25 pm

Australia’s leading self-flagellation, martyrdom and auto-canonisation blog for vax conscientious objectors.
But at least we avoided mention of box-cars, camp guards and piano wire today, so there’s that to be thankful for.

now Sancho has only 11 requests outstanding

MatrixTransform
October 12, 2021 9:29 pm

can you tell a cough, from a covid cough?
can you tell a fever, from a covid fever?

can you tell a marxist takeover, from a covid marxist takeover?

…I didn’t think so

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2021 9:30 pm

So apart from having a slash/splitting a whisker and your inner thoughts, there’s nothing else?
Vaxxed and unvaxxed.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
October 12, 2021 9:31 pm

I think we need some comedy to spice things up a bit this evening.

Enough doom and gloom for one day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZiQdc2SGo

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2021 9:33 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
October 12, 2021 at 9:29 pm

MT, I was just struggling to write something about the complete waste of time and money to be spent on new submarines to keep out those who would destroy us, because they’ve almost done it without so much as a shot fired.

Second night in a row that you’ve said it better than me.

cohenite
October 12, 2021 9:33 pm

Nicholas Reece is a prick.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2021 9:34 pm

Bush,
seems that way.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2021 9:37 pm

Haven’t seen Bird at all.

Perhaps he’s been Somyureked.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 9:38 pm

cohenitesays:

October 12, 2021 at 9:33 pm

Nicholas Reece is a prick.

No shit?
Murray is a fucking idiot for having him on.
The fat fuck thinks it will “liven things up”.
All it does is have people reaching for the remote.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2021 9:42 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 12, 2021 at 9:37 pm

Haven’t seen Bird at all.

ussr keeps trying to conjure a bird out of the hat, but he keeps disappearing.
Moderation.
It’s one of the things you shouldn’t do in moderation when Bird is around.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2021 9:43 pm

Nostrarrrsrsrssr, earlier:

I’ve been busy, I’m very tired & still doing things between catching up.

A bit like ‘too many open tabs, not enough sleep’ no doubt.

It was also something warned of many years ago, by those, ‘conspiracy nuts’, who got banished from public forums

Translated: ‘I WAAAAAARNED you all. Right here! Oh, wait. Elsewhere. ELSEWHERE, I waaaaarned you! Nobody wanted to hear about the red shoe tunnel Vatican international illuminati lizard people who banished me from Facebook even though I’m not on it! Nobody will listen to meeeeee!’

I am victim.
Hear me roar.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 12, 2021 9:45 pm

Caledonian Hotel has been doing it’s protest for months now. Sheet over the balcony right on George st (New England hwy) just past a choke point. Anyone heading from Brisbane by the alternate coast route or heading from the west of the state wouldn’t miss it. Would definitely be a thorn in Sydney’s side with the coverage it has.

I’ll have to ask around, local jacks are annoying with the amount of RBT they do but they generally aren’t too bad apart from a Highway Patrol d&#khead out of Muswellbrook. I’d say at a guess these were out of towners. Probably Newcastle, maybe even Sydney and going by what Aussie Cossack has had to put up with passive dissent is obviously not tolerated.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2021 9:45 pm

It seems the renewables will be inflicted on us whether we like it or not. So how is this democracy in any sense when politicians promise one thing during election campaigns and then as soon as they win they indicate we were suckers for trusting them?

The renewables are also inflicted on us by those to whom high power bills are no object, mostly because they got governments to give them money in the form of subsidies.

In the final analysis, anything that needs subsidies even after 50 years is not sustainable.

Besides, if windmills were so great the Dutch would never have adopted electricity.

P
P
October 12, 2021 9:47 pm

I was contacted today by the office of my Ophthalmologist to ask my vaccination status re mt appt next week. My not being vaccinated was received with an instruction that I must then have a test for covid 72hrs before my appointment.
I asked how I could do this and was told I should contact my GP who could possibly arrange for this to be done.
I requested that a new appointment be made six months from now. We then agreed that she contact the doctor and ask if this would be acceptable and she would ring me by the end of this week.
It appears that I who live in my home isolated and not in contact with any persons is more of a threat than the double vaccinated who are mixing with others. I feel persecuted.

Zipster
Zipster
October 12, 2021 9:47 pm

these people are fucking insane

A simple criterion for science to qualify as postmodern is that it be free from any dependence on the concept of objective truth. By this criterion, for example, the complementarity interpretation of quantum physics due to Niels Bohr and the Copenhagen school is seen as postmodernist
Madsen and Madsen

let them eat lead

Zipster
Zipster
October 12, 2021 9:49 pm

I was contacted today by the office of my Ophthalmologist to ask my vaccination status re mt appt next week. My not being vaccinated was received with an instruction that I must then have a test for covid 72hrs before my appointment.
I asked how I could do this and was told I should contact my GP who could possibly arrange for this to be done.

best strategy is to lie, tell them you are, rock up without your phone. waste their time if they reject you

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2021 9:50 pm

One more thing about the renewables boondoggle, how much more elite can you get than Prince Charles yet he sees no incongruity in telling poor people that they must pay enormous amounts of money to keep themselves warm just to make him feel better.

This man alone is likely to convert an awful lot of people to republicanism.

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