Open Thread- Weekend 16 Oct 2021


Winter- The Flood, Nicolas Poussin, 1664


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JC
JC
October 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Let me know if you want it posted again as this makes up one of the 0/5 wins I clocked against your knight.

No thanks.

Why not. You feel better hallucinating he was right about mRNA being permanently damaged? That’s mighty humble of you.

rickw
rickw
October 17, 2021 9:14 pm

A visit to the vomitorium.

Understatement.

Includes all the answers as to why Victoria and Australia are fucked.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 17, 2021 9:19 pm

Matersays:
October 17, 2021 at 9:07 pm

thank you, will have a look.

(The other half is writing to his union. As a result now the WA govt announcing the mandating of the jab for WA mining workers, the union has deserted the field, because the CHO “knows what he’s doing.”

He wants to point out that the “vaccines” don’t have a particularly good success rate, hence the need for some info. He said he’s going to use the EJ Whitten school of diplomacy – “we stuck it up ’em.”

Winston Smith
October 17, 2021 9:20 pm

Muddy:

I’m guessing that many of us think we are the only ones who struggle with these issues, so I’m not entirely comfortable writing this, but … Yeah.

You’re not the only one, Muddy.
Except for the blue rabbits.
That’s weird.
🙂

Rabz
October 17, 2021 9:21 pm

Smoky vocals, an insistent beat and that mighty solo fade out

Back when residents of the Golden State could actually deliver something useful. 🙂

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 17, 2021 9:26 pm

BHP bosses will front a landmark parliamentary inquiry into sexual harassment in WA’s resources sector this week, as MPs plan more hearings than first expected amid intensifying public scrutiny of the issue.

Sounds like another beat up and excuse to go after FIFO. Mining camps can be worse than Melrose Place, there are the home family and the camp families for some who are disposed that way. Moranbah 10 years ago had their pearl clutchers going on about the dangers of FIFO workers, I used to exercise after shift and never saw any shortage of female walkers out on Mills Ave or Belyando Ave even after dark. Funny that for such a risky environment for women.

Mater
October 17, 2021 9:26 pm

BBS,
Here is the register I mentioned.
You need to search by each vaccine, and it doesn’t have a field that says ‘death’, just the technical name for the reaction…heart failure, for example.

As for your husbands approach, if I can help with any info I’ve gathered, I’m happy to assist where I can.

Contact me through Dover, if you wish.

Mater
October 17, 2021 9:27 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 17, 2021 9:28 pm

Andrew Bolt: Scott Morrison’s climate backflip a failure of leadership

The Prime Minister is making fools of conservatives who trusted him at the last election when he promised to save them from Labor’s global warming plans.

Scott Morrison is betraying Liberal voters who believed him when he waved a lump of coal in parliament and shouted “this is coal, don’t be afraid, don’t be scared, it won’t hurt you”.

The Prime Minister is making fools of conservatives who trusted him at the last election when he promised to save them from Labor’s global warming plans, saying its “emissions reduction target of 45 per cent will cost everybody’s wage $9000 a year”.

Instead, he’s now pushing for even bigger cuts – “net zero” by 2050 – and this time it’s supposed not to hurt a bit.

What a failure of leadership. And what a disastrous repetition of history.

When Europeans first explored Tasmania, they were amazed that Tasmanian Aborigines had taboos on eating fish, even though fish would have saved them from going hungry. They’d also lost the ability to make fire, as mainland Aborigines could.

Here we go again. Australia has vast deposits of coal and uranium ore. Coal is perfect for the cheap, reliable electricity that’s helped make us rich. Uranium is perfect for reliable nuclear power that is the zero emissions energy that global warmists demand.

Yet we’ve banned nuclear power for no sane reason and are now also making coal taboo. Morrison is now pushing his National Party partners to let him go to the big Glasgow climate summit next month with a “net zero” promise that will doom coal-fired power.

What a joke. Nothing Morrison promises will make a difference to the climate. We’re too small, pumping out just 1.13 per cent of the world’s man-made emissions.

That’s why every political leader I’ve asked – Kevin Rudd, Bill Shorten, Tony Abbott and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg – refused to say what difference their plans would make to the temperature. They don’t want you to know the answer is “essentially nothing”, as former chief scientist Alan Finkel admitted.

Nor is it clear that the small warming we’re seen should be stopped. Over the past 40 years Australia has had bigger crops and fewer cyclones, and many dams are close to full. Our planet is greening. And why is Morrison going to Glasgow when the leaders of China and India, which pump out a third of the world’s emissions, won’t say they’re going, too, instead ordering their power stations to burn more coal to avoid electricity shortages now crippling green Europe?

Morrison should just be straight with us. He’s only going because we’re being blackmailed.

Frydenberg says international investment funds, now fashionably green, will hit Australia with higher borrowing costs if we don’t promise net zero. Some European countries could hurt our trade if we don’t cave.

Morrison himself explained on the weekend we had to “deal with significant economic challenges as the world [sic] moves towards a net zero economy.”

The Prime Minister should explain his backflip by giving us those blunt realities, and should be honest: this has almost nothing to do with the climate.

It’s the green lies I cannot stand, and which insult our intelligence. We may have to give in to the blackmail, but we don’t have to give in to the bull. No, global warming is not an existential threat. No, the Great Barrier Reef is not dying. No, we’re not in more danger of dying in climate disasters.

But where is Morrison’s leadership? Most importantly, if he really does think Australia must give up its cheap and vast fossil fuels, why not campaign to end our irrational ban on nuclear power?

Morrison simply does not dare. He’s instead helping to deny us two great and proven power sources, and offering instead new green ones like blue hydrogen and green hydrogen that haven’t even been shown to work.

This is insanity to match Tasmania’s Aborigines throwing away their boomerangs, barbed spears and fish hooks.

Alan Finkel, himself a warming activist, last week conceded “in practice the future costs for both green and blue hydrogen remain unknown”.

The International Energy Agency likewise admitted “reaching net-zero emissions will require the widespread use after 2030 of technologies that are still under development”.

The Business Council of Australia this month demanded a 50 per cent cut to our emissions which it admitted – incredibly – depended on “requisite technologies (that) had not all been developed”.

And so our new-age global warming primitives walk off to a mystic future, Morrison at their head, damning technologies that made us rich and promising magic solutions the other side of that rainbow. We are watching another civilisation in decline.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 17, 2021 9:29 pm

Mining camps can be worse than Melrose Place, there are the home family and the camp families for some who are disposed that way

Seem to remember more than one very messy divorce, in Perth, when the “home family” found out about the “camp family.”

Rabz
October 17, 2021 9:38 pm

No, people – this is not Mark E Smith and the Fall.

It’s a mighty fine tribute, nonetheless. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 9:38 pm

Rabz.
Recovered from the Fender clickbait yet?

cohenite
October 17, 2021 9:40 pm

Top Endersays:
October 17, 2021 at 9:28 pm
Andrew Bolt: Scott Morrison’s climate backflip a failure of leadership

The Prime Minister is making fools of conservatives who trusted him at the last election when he promised to save them from Labor’s global warming plans.

Scott Morrison is betraying Liberal voters who believed him when he waved a lump of coal in parliament and shouted “this is coal, don’t be afraid, don’t be scared, it won’t hurt you”.

The Prime Minister is making fools of conservatives who trusted him at the last election when he promised to save them from Labor’s global warming plans, saying its “emissions reduction target of 45 per cent will cost everybody’s wage $9000 a year”.

Instead, he’s now pushing for even bigger cuts – “net zero” by 2050 – and this time it’s supposed not to hurt a bit.

What a failure of leadership. And what a disastrous repetition of history.

Scomo is not only being blackmailed by the big hedge funds, the eurotrash, that fat fuck bojo and his green slut of a wife but also by the green dumb shits in his own party. I don’t believe he is this stupid, weak maybe but not stupid. But the real test is not for scomo but the Australian electorate although the alternative choices are slim: PHON, UAP; who else?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 9:41 pm

Andrew Blot talking about backflips?
Fuck, that’s rich.
He’s the reason Nadia Comaneci retired.

Indolent
Indolent
October 17, 2021 9:46 pm

Morrison Pushes Laws to Bury National Cabinet COVID Crisis Documents

Scomo is not only being blackmailed by the big hedge funds, the eurotrash, that fat fuck bojo and his green slut of a wife but also by the green dumb shits in his own party. I don’t believe he is this stupid, weak maybe but not stupid.

At this point, evil is the word of choice for me. Every single thing he does is against our best interests. That cannot be a coincidence.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 17, 2021 9:46 pm

miltonfsays:
October 17, 2021 at 7:42 pm
Hollie Hughes- two bludge ‘degrees’=>staffer for Heffernan and Fiovaranti-Wells=>Senate. All that is wrong with politics in Australia.

Uptick.
I’d like a political party where no-one was allowed to be a candidate unless they’d spent at least 10 years post education totally outside the politics/Press Gallery/lobby group (including trade union) bubble. (But not on social welfare. Doing something.)

Indolent
Indolent
October 17, 2021 9:46 pm

I got the quote back to front.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 17, 2021 9:49 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 17, 2021 at 9:41 pm
Andrew Blot talking about backflips?
Fuck, that’s rich.
He’s the reason Nadia Comaneci retired

Think of him as the conservatives’ Jim Higgs. Utterly useless for some things but worth having on the squad for the things he can do.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 9:49 pm

Perrotett triggered some pretty nasty lefties.

Yay! We’re outbreeding the far left!

No, you’re not.

The conservative PM of this country has implemented a left wing agenda the Greens and authoritarian faction of the ALP would be proud of.

Unless he goes full ham on Macquarie St with a wrecking bar and a copy of Atlas Shrugged, he will be diluted by the Photios bots.

Rabz
October 17, 2021 9:50 pm

Panzers, show some respect and listen to my advice, if you don’t challenge me on anything, you’ll find I’m actually very nice …

That beloved Sceptred Isle. No one could ever accuse the residents of taking themselves too seriously. 🙂

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 9:50 pm

Hollie Hughes is why we need sortition, term limits and recall elections.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 9:52 pm

And, Mater, right on cue from the Carol Burnett Institute (from the Oz).

Hospital forecasts reduced

RACHEL BAXENDALE

The Burnet Institute is predicting 63 per cent fewer hospitalisations when Victoria’s Covid cases peak than it forecast less than a month ago, and 45 per cent fewer deaths between now and the end of the year.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 9:54 pm

That beloved Sceptred Isle. No one could ever accuse the residents of taking themselves too seriously.

Pity we live on the Septic Isle.

132andBush
132andBush
October 17, 2021 9:56 pm

BBS
Stick with the irrefutable facts.

1: The vaccines are only under provisional approval.

2: The government is forcing them on the population which is demonstrably immoral/unethical and is counter to the tenets of western liberal democracies.

As Mater said it’s hard to pull out the data and when it comes to the adverse reactions issue some people head straight of to nanowriggler land.

Good luck.

vlad redux
vlad redux
October 17, 2021 9:56 pm

ScoMo is stupid.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 9:58 pm

That beloved Sceptred Isle. No one could ever accuse the residents of taking themselves too seriously

You should have heard when Guido Hatzis phoned Buckingham Palace.

Mater
October 17, 2021 10:00 pm

The Burnet Institute is predicting 63 per cent fewer hospitalisations when Victoria’s Covid cases peak than it forecast less than a month ago, and 45 per cent fewer deaths between now and the end of the year.

Clearly this wasn’t arrived at by extrapolating the current trend.
I hope the government is giving them more/better data than they give we proles.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 10:01 pm

How did Hughes get in the AAT?

Remember, she had a communications degree and an MPA.

These are the sort of people who will sign off on Dutton’s utterly absurd and dystopian cybercrime warrants.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 17, 2021 10:03 pm

Tony Abbott takes aim at ABC culture Nick Tabakoff

4:03PM October 17, 2021
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Conservative think tank the Institute of Public Affairs has never been on the ABC’s Christmas card list. And that won’t be changing any time soon, with news reaching Diary that the IPA is about to release a serialised podcast series called ‘Their ABC’, which will examine “what’s wrong with the ABC and how to fix it”.

The headline act of the new podcast series, we’re told, is a lengthy critique of the national broadcaster by Tony Abbott — who has never been the ABC’s biggest fan.

Judging by some early grabs of the former prime minister’s comments obtained by Diary, his take is likely to generate plenty of media noise.

“It seems that they are on everyone’s side but ours,” Abbott says.

“They tend to be against the Australian government, regardless of its persuasion, but particularly if it’s a centre-right government.

“If Australia is in a disagreement with another country, they tend to take that country’s perspective and assume that we’ve done something wrong.”

Abbott adds: “We‘ve tried almost everything, different managing directors, different directors … any number of observations about where things should go. But it’s the culture that’s the problem.”

Plenty of other conservatives are poised to join Abbott in the series, including his former chief of staff and Sky News host Peta Credlin, ex-deputy PM John Anderson, One Nation’s Mark Latham, and Coalition senators Andrew Bragg, Sarah Henderson, Bridget McKenzie, Alex Antic and Matt Canavan.

The interviews have been conducted over nearly a year around the country by the IPA’s communications director, Evan Mulholland. The first instalment of the five-part podcast is out next week.

The podcast will also examine at length some of the IPA’s pet subjects, including whether the ABC should be privatised, allowed to advertise, or offer a subscription service.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 17, 2021 10:04 pm

Jim Higgs. Very handy off-spinner on the right deck.

As a No. 11, made Glenn McGrath look like Ponting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 10:05 pm

Do Fender make banjos?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 10:07 pm

Didn’t Mr Higgs once complete a tour of England without making a run?

Muddy
Muddy
October 17, 2021 10:08 pm

Winston Smith says:
October 17, 2021 at 9:20 pm

You’re not the only one, Muddy.
Except for the blue rabbits.
That’s weird.

It’s when they start wearing yellow-striped, green trakky daks that things get weird, Winston.

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:09 pm

Bluddee hell – correct film clip, peoples … 🙂

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:10 pm

Do Fender make banjos?

Bespoke ones, no doubt, Squire. Send them your specs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 10:13 pm

Rabzsays:

October 17, 2021 at 10:10 pm

Do Fender make banjos?

Bespoke ones, no doubt, Squire. Send them your specs.

Well, I’d really rather not say this in front of KD, but … I’m a lefty.

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:14 pm

In my day, Pol, the gear on the street was so weak you could eat your ambition in a matter of weeks, just trying to envision a peak – and that’s bleak!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 17, 2021 10:15 pm

My mistake. Higgs was a leggie. Wiki:

Ashley Mallett was Australian spinner at the time so Higgs did not play a Test on tour, but gained fame by not scoring a run for the whole tour. He batted twice and was bowled by the only ball he faced

Anything he managed to tweak would have been dwarfed by Lillee and Thomson.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 17, 2021 10:15 pm

As a sciency guy, what is your view on the theory that the vaxes contain “aluminum carbon life forms” which can be detected by airport security scanners?

What the actual fuck?
Are you really questioning a trusted blogger like Dr Wcyxzny?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 17, 2021 10:17 pm

I’m a lefty.

Gutted. I knew it.

rickw
rickw
October 17, 2021 10:18 pm

A perspective on policing and attempts to destroy small businesses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBeOfGWyS0

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 17, 2021 10:18 pm

As a No. 11, made Glenn McGrath look like Ponting.

I was told the following story – can’t vouch for it.

His first night at training at Melbourne Uni Cricket Club he told them he was an opening batsman who bowled a bit. He looked great with the ball but hopeless with the bat, but they reasoned he might be unused to turf, so they assumed he’d come good and selected him as a batsman in the 5th’s.
On debut he took 7/20 odd and was out 2nd ball of MUCC’s innings.
Next week he was in the 3rd’s – out first ball of the innings but then took 5/30 odd.
He was told to report for the firsts the next week. MUCC won the toss and elected to bat.
“I’d better put the pads on then skipper” Higgsy said.
“Actually Jim we were thinking of easing you into it at No. 11”.
“Well, there goes my plan to bullshit my way to opening for Australia.”

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:20 pm

Glenn McGrath

The White Ambrose.

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:22 pm

I’m a lefty

Like we did not already know? 😕

rickw
rickw
October 17, 2021 10:23 pm

However, since the National Cabinet’s inception, Scott Morrison has been asserting that the same secrecy mechanisms that apply to the federal cabinet, should apply to this body.

And following a court ruling that this was a false claim, his government is now attempting to pass laws to hide National Cabinet documentation.

Why the need for secrecy? We already know they’re bloody mongs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 10:24 pm

What the actual fuck?
Are you really questioning a trusted blogger like Dr Wcyxzny?

Noooo!
I was hoping to drum up a bit of local support for Dr Wxzkcxzhjky.
And possibly buy him a vowel or two.
But Bruce didn’t come to the party.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 17, 2021 10:30 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 17, 2021 at 10:17 pm

I’m a lefty.

Gutted. I knew it.

Only at banjo.
Nothing else.
I swear.

Winston Smith
October 17, 2021 10:33 pm

Gab:
My little bit;

I have watched in dismay as Australia has gone down the road to a Fascist State with the willing participation of the two major parties.
This is what the Labor/Liberal Uniparty will bequeath to Australia.
The Uniparty will be spoken of only in the whorehouses and asylums of the next century.
The choice is yours -the light on the hill, or the guttering candle in an outback flyblown dunny.

Every politician thinks of their ‘Legacy’ or their “Place in History”.
Their egos demand it.

Winston Smith
October 17, 2021 10:40 pm

Sancho:

I did a lot of business modelling over the last ten years, mostly for large-scale mining and (spit) oil & gas projects.

Heresy!
Blessed be the Carbins, for they shall cool – or heat – the planet.
Amen.

Baba
Baba
October 17, 2021 10:42 pm

The International COVID-19 Vaccination Certificates work in a similar fashion to existing vaccine certificates and will be available for download through the MyGov website.

But they have added QR codes that can be scanned by foreign border officials.

“If you travel overseas, and that overseas country requires proof of your vaccination status, you will have a copy of it,” Employment Minister Stuart Robert said.
…..
“In the same way, for example, that for the last 20 years Australians, when they travelled to Africa, they have had to carry a little international vaccination book that showed the Yellow Fever vaccination.

The lies just roll off the tongue effortlessly these days.

Rabz
October 17, 2021 10:46 pm

A french woman’s description of English Roses:

“Snobbish badly dressed women who look like horses”

This is not good and so wrong, I tells ya. The Green Monster.

Not having it.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 17, 2021 10:55 pm

Traditionally, real vaccines don’t actually kill anybody.

Except the smallpox vaccine, which was approximately as nasty as claimed for the Covid vax. One or two deaths per million first doses + up to 50 serious injuries per million – tragically, mainly in infants.

twostix
twostix
October 17, 2021 10:55 pm

However, since the National Cabinet’s inception, Scott Morrison has been asserting that the same secrecy mechanisms that apply to the federal cabinet, should apply to this body.

And following a court ruling that this was a false claim, his government is now attempting to pass laws to hide National Cabinet documentation.

Why the secrecy?

Morrison is attempting to create a permanent new branch of government, one that meets in secret and tells us and our parliaments what the legislative program for the country is going to be going forward forever.

No joke, he’s recreating the European Commission in Australia. He’s transforming Australia into an mini-EU.

[the European Commission] operates as a cabinet government, with 27 members of the Commission (informally known as “commissioners”).[4][5] There is one member per member state, but members are bound by their oath of office to represent the general interest of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.

National Cabinet == European Commission.

This has been a coup.

MatrixTransform
October 17, 2021 11:01 pm

Nine days ago the unvaccinated group in hospital was 65%. Now they tell us it’s 89%.

That is probably due to the vaccinated dying like flies.

We spoke to a bloke yesterday who is responsible for covid patients.
A lot of them and in both hospital intensive care and home-care post-positive test.
He gave us well over an hour of his time on the phone.
He is kind of family so it wasn’t a consultation, it was and earnest and sober and informational act of selflessness and love.

Both the missus and I have been very VX hesitant due to severe allergies in particular, and also because we know damned well that there is nothing coherent to gleaned from the internet (expecially this forum) and next to no point talking to a GP because as usual they don’t much about shit.

Who’s gonna listen to a CH9 advertisement when journalists are even bigger whores than politicians?

Who can trust anything right now with the idiotic messaging from Govt and the shifting of goal posts.
Can you blame anybody for their dis-belief?
No, I don’t think so
ffs, they shoot at you in Melbourne for protesting their own idiotic messaging, mismanagement and policy over-reach.
FFS !! don’t even get me started on mandates

any way.

re: the cohort in hospitalized and double-VXd. Yah, they are positives that are co-morbid.
So, one of the guys who treats them told me yesterday that they’re there because they are under care. He said they’re hospitalized because they have known comorbidities and need management.

THEY WONT be the dead ones, he said. They get VXd, theyre already compromised, they test +ve, they get in hospital, they get fixed.

The ones that are in trouble are the ones where the virus started out mild, then ate them from inside out. un or partially VXd … Inexplicable, devastating and numbering in the hundreds.

I’ll tell you another thing.
without actually saying so, I understood why the AZ was a problem.
Lets just say idiot policy forced it into yr arse (my words)
but recently that’s changed
if you came out ok … excellent

Pfizzer has been administered to billions and basically near zero problems
We talked about anaphylaxis and all sorts of stuff.
He said he knows of squillions and only has knowledge of 2 cases here in Vik where allergy was an issue and he said it was mild and manageable.
a non-event.

He talked also at length about cases in people already VXnated
About how they generally present,even if they have a positive test post VXd
It’s a very very different illness he said.
They wont die.
Maybe, if they have some immune problem that they didn’t know about. maybe

But generally a VXd person who gets the bug … they prolly wont die.

no the people that do croak are the unvaxxed.
obviously not all of them by a large proportion
but its a fucking lottery.

so for a VX with vanishishingly close to zero problems versus something of a lottery if you catch the bug, it’s kind of a no-brainer.

I know, I’ve been pretty staunch
I don’t believe a bloody word I hear for the most part (because yr all shit-talkers)
but this bloke … he’s the only bloke I’d accept it from

just sayin’

vlad redux
vlad redux
October 17, 2021 11:04 pm

There was no mission creep with the little yellow book you took to Africa and back.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 11:18 pm

so for a VX with vanishishingly close to zero problems versus something of a lottery if you catch the bug, it’s kind of a no-brainer.

Most people who died, vaccinated or not, have been in their 80s and 90s.

The age of an average COVID fatality was more than the life expectancy of an Australian.

I am still not convinced, given the damning Project Veritas videos.

Something is not right.

Novavax delayed (works better, safer & used less controversial research methods), doctors constrained in giving advice; “health advice” one month that is contrary to advice given later; secrecy of national cabinet and a legacy media complex (fat off rivers of government advertising gold) lecturing people in matters they are wholly unqualified in, given in an inflammatory and haughty tone.

It points to the government being unable to admit they were wrong in the first place – they overstated the risk but let in hundreds of not thousands of people positive with COVID.

They cannot ever admit they were wrong or they will lose face.

They “must” walk it back as if they averted a catastrophe and any loss; they are not responsible for.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2021 11:20 pm

“an MPA”

Oh god.

Pat
Pat
October 17, 2021 11:28 pm

Dr. Faustus,

You are dead right, the poohliticians will now have high case numbers and let ‘er rip.

Lots of waffle and BS reasons why, but that’s where we are going.

Up the workers.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 17, 2021 11:33 pm

Really? Yet you’re taking the word of a metallurgist about the AZ against a Phd in micro-biology. It’s not me. Yet you call yourself humble. Doc, get the fuck out of here, metaphorically speaking.

There’s your problem JC.

You are not doing your own validation/. Information but taking the word of “someone”. And in the case of your Doc – that someone can lose his job if he denigrates the VAXX!

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/doctors-face-deregistration-for-expressing-concerns-about-covid-vaccines/

Moderna Pfizer and AZ used feral cells in the production process.

Moderna is banned in Japan and Iceland completely and for the under 30’s in a swathe of countries.

The mRNA vaxx injects a bit of the COVID virus RNA into your cells, taking over and changing them, essentially tricking the cells to create that bit of the virus (the spike protein). This trains your immune system to recognise that spike and and attack it sooner.

The viral vector vaccine essentially takes a chimpanzee adeno virus and adds in a bit of the cOVID DNA into its that when the chimp virus is absorbed by your cells they again get tricked into producing the COVID spike protein.

It is critical to inject these vaccines into muscles so that the virus is created there and the body learns how to respond to it there. If the vaccine gets into your bloodstream the response may take place in the heart or brain – and that will cause the pericarditis or strokes etc.

The normal protein based flu vax works different- it exposes the body to a dead or inactive virus shell…. The whole lot! It does not trick your cells to mutate and create only a bit.

This is prob the reason why the current approved crop of vaccines are leaky – they train the body to respond to only one bit… and that bit is. It from the vaccine… but one created by your cells.

There are a million YouTube vids explaining this…

Trust but verify!

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 17, 2021 11:35 pm

feral = fetal

MatrixTransform
October 17, 2021 11:36 pm

Something is not right.

amen

I wrote guest-post and sent it up to Mater

we got a big lie dressed up in a small lie.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 17, 2021 11:38 pm

Trust but verify!

I prefer ‘ Distrust and check.’

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 17, 2021 11:41 pm

Except the smallpox vaccine, which was approximately as nasty as claimed for the Covid vax.

Was that in the past when the vax was made from scrapings off the scab of the pox?

Or is that true for the current variants?

MatrixTransform
October 17, 2021 11:42 pm

Most people who died, vaccinated or not, have been in their 80s and 90s.

bloke told me yesterday that as this virus worms its way deeper into our population that the cohort getting crook is changing.

and it is scaring the shit out of him

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 17, 2021 11:43 pm

I prefer ‘ Distrust and check.’

Once your check shows that what you have is crap … the next step is

Distrust and ignore.

MatrixTransform
October 17, 2021 11:44 pm

I prefer ‘ Distrust and check.’

snap DrBG

rickw
rickw
October 17, 2021 11:48 pm

I am still not convinced, given the damning Project Veritas videos.

Something is not right.

Exactly, something stinks to high heaven. It looks like the business model is pumping out a faulty vaccine to deal with a virus that mostly isn’t going to kill you.

Zipster
Zipster
October 17, 2021 11:49 pm

Putin said that the Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping’s recent speech mentioned the possibility of peaceful reunification. He believes that China’s “national philosophy” does not advocate military threats.

I don’t think China needs to use force. China is a powerful economy. In terms of purchasing power parity, China’s economy has now surpassed the United States to become the world’s number one.” He said.

“As long as its economic potential is enhanced, China will be able to achieve its national goals. I don’t see any threats.” He added.

“The CCP can’t decide (how) to deal with Putin’s “unexpected serve”.” Yang Xianhong wrote.

He said that the CCP still doesn’t know how to respond to Putin’s remarks, telling Putin that “The Taiwan issue is China’s internal affairs, and Russia is not qualified to make irresponsible remarks.”

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 17, 2021 11:51 pm

Novavax delayed (works better, safer & used less controversial research methods)

Heard from someone who would know – Novavax is never getting FDA approval. (I mean – it has been tested in tens if not hundreds of thousands of experimental cases and has much much less side effects and is better against delta and other variants – so I guess that means that it’s too much of a competitor to the big boys club of trough snouting pharmas … and that is not on eh?)

Zipster
Zipster
October 17, 2021 11:51 pm

bloke told me yesterday that as this virus worms its way deeper into our population that the cohort getting crook is changing.

and it is scaring the shit out of him

china has a lot to answer for, their view is what are you going to do about it, nothing.

MatrixTransform
October 17, 2021 11:51 pm

don’t get me wrong, I’m still very very skeptical.

the particular thing for me was clarifying that the VX risks were extremely small.

not super super small according to the nurse holding a syringe.

no, super super super small according to the Perfessor

the next trick is to rid the world of post-modern lunatics

Arky
October 18, 2021 12:09 am

Interesting MT.
Very interesting.

Arky
October 18, 2021 12:10 am

… and why I asked for such on the “last rational debate” thread.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 18, 2021 12:13 am

Was that in the past when the vax was made from scrapings off the scab of the pox?

Or is that true for the current variants?

Could be wrong, but I understand the pox-based vaccine was replaced about 100 years ago by the version that was still being used when I was (belatedly) jabbed in the mid-1960’s.

MatrixTransform
October 18, 2021 12:13 am

bad timing Arky
the offer to chat with the fella was on the table for several weeks
we should have taken the offer up earlier.

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 12:50 am

Gilas:

Honest question:
How many Cats have had a truly positive interaction with the pigs?
Meaning: When police presence/action made a helpful contribution to a Cat’s life circumstance?

Once in NT when dad was found. (Deceased)
Once in 70 years.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 1:05 am

If we ever get out of this shit then never, ever give away taxation.

That is how the xnts have us now.

and will use the tax streams to implement phagots renewable energy crap.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 18, 2021 1:11 am

5/5 is a draw, no?

JC, you know very well that US sporting jargon has seeped into the Australian vocabulary.
An American saying 5/5 is just shorthand for “5 wins from 5 games/starts”.
o/5 is American for “zero wins in 5 starts”.
I guess you already know that.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 1:12 am

Does anyone remember or know how the UN-Party kicked aside and destroyed a young bloke to put ‘happy clapper’ Scot into his electorate?

JC
JC
October 18, 2021 1:22 am

Old School

No I don’t know “very well”. In fact I’ve never heard it before. Don’t assume.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 1:31 am

JC

love you long time but you come across as pumped up on vaxxines.

some bloke on a bench glances at you sideways because you park in a loading zone????????

fer fk sake….

I’m trying to book shipping containers and you are worried about coffee!!!

get a fkng grip.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 1:39 am

If I was a Formosan and had one of the most advanced chip making factories in the world I would merely say… attack and the entire global financial system goes down.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 1:55 am

I met a couple of Formosan’s once.

good blokes.

and I’ve met part of the family of a Chinese ‘Dong’.

good people.

Open Trade will make us all richer.

But kindly understand… if you have absolute power then there is no one you can talk to.

JC
JC
October 18, 2021 2:01 am

Rorschach

For the 4,000th time. I don’t have a problem being wrong on the rare occasion.

The appeal to authority was introduced by Bruce and the subsequently backed up by the esteemed Doc. Go back and take a look.

If these two muttonheads are going to appeal to authority ( which is what they did) then they’ve lost if they’re arguing against a PhD in microbiology.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 2:04 am

and fk that ‘free trade’ crap.

open markets or fk off.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 2:16 am

JC

Australians were doing some work in Mongolia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 18, 2021 2:20 am
struth
struth
October 18, 2021 4:44 am

So much delusion.
So many commenters consider Scomo weak and stupid.
Considering his actions prove him to not be, his latest example is to go against Dominic Pairo’tits desire to open up international travel , what is it with denialists who will not admit the obvious?
He is not weak against the bad guys.
He is one of the bad guys and he’s laughing at the gullible who think he’s just weak.
Everything he has done proves quite the reverse.

struth
struth
October 18, 2021 4:52 am

Oh by the way….I had to laugh.
Victorians telling me about ease of border crossings.
They read it on the Internet while they can’t remember what the world looks like outside their front door.
Keep your chin up guys.
You’ll soon be allowed out for your summer break like last year although it will be shorter this year so make the most of it.

Gilas
Gilas
October 18, 2021 7:41 am

Somehow, I got onto Quora’s spamming servers some years ago.
Occasionally, they link me to some interesting threads, like this one on the time required to recoup the cost of building a wind farm.
Spoiler alert! From 3 months, to never.
Just like opinions and a…holes.

In 2016, I saw a single blade from one of these monsters displayed at the entrance of the Bella Center in Copenhagen, site of the 2009 IPCC “tipping point” Conference.

43 metres in length, 6.4 tonnes of aluminium, aka solidified electricity.. From a Wikipedia reference: 14 – 16 MWh of electrical energy is needed to produce one tonne of aluminium from about two tonnes of alumina, plus environmental waste.
Do the sums.

Our Rafe would have a field day with the delusional BS excreted by most of the responders. A couple, further down the thread, gave rational answers, quoting the nirvana of SA’s power prices… Australia in the lead, once again.

Gilas
Gilas
October 18, 2021 8:01 am

An angry BoN..

Wonders never cease.

Gilas
Gilas
October 18, 2021 8:03 am

Fuck! New fred!

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 6:30 pm

Cassie:

Ali’s father, Harbi Ali Kullane, 61, who splits his time between London and Nairobi and was a former media spokesman for the Somalia prime minister, has been interviewed by police and was said to be deeply traumatised by his son’s arrest.“

So NOT traumatised by his sons actions?
No – filthy Kuffir got his just desserts….
The media are utterly tone deaf.

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 6:39 pm

Can anyone derive something from Indolents post about declining immune function?
Like what is declining and why?

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 7:34 pm

From Rogers post this morning – very good writing…

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 8:27 pm

Tuesday Weld:
Nice legs, looker.

Winston Smith
October 18, 2021 8:40 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

That is about as despicable, mendacious and unscientific as you can get. Two things are absolutely certain. One is that another of many waves will soon occur since they’re going in to the cold season, and secondly the vaccines will have worn off, thus the vaccinated majority will be the primary driver of the next wave.

I wonder what the Peoples Court will have to say about these mendacious mongrels after the Revolution?
Oh. And the Purge.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 1:37 am

Cassie O’Sydney:

There’s a biblical zoo in Jerusalem. I’ve been there. I can confirm that there are no kangaroos or wombats or koalas or quokkas in the zoo.

Ant drop bears?

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 1:41 am

ZK2A:

Who could be deported if the new laws passes?

A very good case would be for the makeup of the tribunal to become public. Then to gaol them.
What Tribunal is this, anyway?

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 2:19 am

My understanding was the lack of trucks somplying with the California EPA standards was the major factor behind the clogging of the ports.
Here’s a new angle…
This isn’t investment – its bondage.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 2:25 am

Cassie Of Sydney:

Bolta shows greta tarting around a night-club; let’s hope some soyboy knocks her up and she fucks off.”

I think even soyboys have better taste and more sense.

Cassie – the motto of an 18 year old male with a gut full of beer and a stiffy is “It’s not her personality I’m after.”

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 2:46 am

Dover Beach:

Old bloke says: October 18, 2021 at 2:41 pm
CBD is dead!
omfg … this video made my day.
what a p1sser !!

Not sure what is happening here, but when I attempted to go back to the link, the pages appear to come up in no sequential order and I was unable to access this particular page by using the new comment/old comment link.
It’s been doing this since the site started and while you’ve managed to cure most of the issues, this one keeps arising.
Using Brave on Win7 because I’m an old Fogy.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 2:52 am

ZK2A:

Israel has been accused of assassinating a Syrian intelligence officer in the Golan Heights as part of its strategy of preventing Iran gaining a foothold there.
An Israeli sniper shot Midhat as-Saleh, a Syrian former MP, with “treacherous bullets,” the Syrian government said.

Jeez that’s sad. All those years funding and training nutcases to slaughter innocent Israeli families in their beds.
Hope there’s a video I can put up on replay for my screensaver of the shot.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 3:53 am
Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 3:55 am

Gab:

Her daughter tried to get a priest in to administer Extreme Unction but the hospital prevented him doing that because ”she’s not close to death”.

There are pricks in all walks of life.
Our problem is identifying and terminating them.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 4:01 am

Gab:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&v=4402614523150959
Just wanted to thank you for all the work you’ve put in about the “Trusted Identity Bill”.
Some evil shit is coming down the track.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 4:24 am

Fling Pigs:

Can the Australian Military equivalent be trusted???

I have very strong doubts that the upper echelon is capable of carrying out their duties.
Purge.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 8:31 am

Tinta:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-not-our-job-to-sell-your-agenda-legacy-media-blasts-bernie-sanders-nancy-pelosi-over-build-back-better?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter

The unfamiliar criticism and calls for journalists to engage in blanket advocacy of legislation did not sit well with journalists, who protested that they do not act as cheerleaders for a political party or a partisan agenda.

The media is pissed off at being treated like the ten dollar crack whore it is.

calli
calli
October 19, 2021 8:35 am

Winston! There’s a new thread over there >>>>>> waiting for your pearls of wisdom.

This one’s dead as a post.

Winston Smith
October 19, 2021 8:46 am

Knuckle Dragger:

It’c clearly obvious what will happen next. An all-chick ‘current events’ show, preferably with an also all-chick production crew.
Expectation: A panacea of all-estrogen equality and fairness, with all assembled feeling strong and confident and supportive of each other, with absolutely no backstabbing or snide, back-handed compliments on age, hair, makeup, martial status or gunt.
Reality: The opening fifteen minutes of Saving Private Ryan.

IIRC… (Some Cats may remember this one from a few years ago.)
There was a feminist who had an office business and she got rid of all the men because ‘way too much friction between the sexes”.
The business folded after the office imploded from faction fighting, complaints, and just the toxic environment.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 23, 2021 4:40 pm

calli says:

This one’s dead as a post.

No, I won’t have that!

It’s quite retiring, though.

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