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MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 7:50 pm

Magritte

Da Da Da … made me laugh out loud.

…I gotta show the missus that one

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 20, 2021 7:50 pm

Possibility of some sunlight onto Chairman Dan’s “health advice”.

Secret documents that informed the Andrews government’s controversial decision to plunge Victoria into lockdown must be released, a state privacy watchdog has ruled.

In a bombshell decision, the Office of the Victorian Information Commissioner (OVIC) ordered the release of 176 Department of Health documents that guided the government’s decision to enforce stage 4 lockdown restrictions across the state on February 12.

Although this tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 7:51 pm

JC:
Just a few quick questions while I make some tea –
1 Do you use an Excel Spreadsheet to make a list of everyone on the Cat who offends you in some way?
2 How far back does it go?
3 How many are on it?
4 Or do you just use your photographic memory (TM) to list all the perceived insults over your long and illustrious life?
I’ve met people who carry a grudge, but you’re something special. A decade or more for some of them – on an anonymous blog to boot.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 7:52 pm

tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.

Time to dust off the “Beware of the Leopard” sign?

srr
srr
October 20, 2021 7:53 pm

There will be a reckoning. There always is.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 7:55 pm

a nice tribute to David Amess, Catholic Herald may be paywalled

Much respect to the memory of that gentleman and condolences to his family.

If only we had more than a few of his calibre, more than content to represent their constituents rather than climb the greasy pole of ministerial ambition.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 8:04 pm

tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.

Like when Gillard became PM and public interest re-emerged about her role in the AWU swindle of the early ’90’s?
And when enquiring minds started exploring:
(a) A request for the old Victorian Supreme Court files was met with “sorry, they’ve gone missing – and there’s no record of who signed them out so they’re impossible to trace”:
(b) 3000 miles away, a request for the old WA Corporate Affairs Commission files was met with “sorry, they’ve gone missing – and there’s no record of who signed them out so they’re impossible to trace”.
Obviously a right wing conspiracy to get rid of evidence by which Julia could have triumphantly vindicated herself. Poor Julia!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 8:04 pm

Arkysays:

October 20, 2021 at 6:59 pm

I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.

I don’t care what it is.
As long as the doctor says …

“Let me be clear. And I don’t apologise for giving you these test results. It’s hard, I know. It’s just as hard on me. But the truth is, you’re fucked. No cure, no treatment, no pain relief. You will die writhing in pain in a pool of your own leaking bodily fluids. But remember. We’re both in this together.”

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 8:06 pm
Arky
October 20, 2021 8:08 pm

But remember. We’re both in this together.”

..
LOL.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 8:13 pm

Turtle head

I don’t quite understand this newly found manliness in you. Are you off the oestrogen meds these days? Also, do you consider, faulthy2 as having traded down from your previous team members? He’s the pits ,right?

Truth is, I’ve never really liked you. I’ve said to you before that I think you’re trash, garbage , and there’s no reason we should interact. That’s just me though and I’m sure you’ll find pals who’ll think your inane comments are pretty good. Do fuck off and don’t talk to me anymore. My view of you won’t ever change.
Lastly is she drunk again?

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 8:20 pm

On artworks, an inundation of public servants seems appropriate.

Doesn’t fly.

They’re all working from home.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 8:28 pm

Patience, Tinta. There will be a reckoning. There always is.

I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks; they got a few Nazis. I’ll believe it when the hunchback falls down another flight of stairs and this time doesn’t wake up.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 8:28 pm

The Cloud is releasing them.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 8:31 pm

I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks…

You’re discounting what comes afterwards.

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2021 8:33 pm

Done…
Same here.

Same, Gab, thanks for keeping us abreast of the petitions.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 8:33 pm

Does anyone have an answer to this.

Foreign language films, ie French, German , Italian … why is the filler music/ songs almost always sung in English? It’s like 99% British or American songs.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 8:34 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/china-tests-new-hypersonic-nuclear-capable-missile-circled-entire-globe-low-orbit-us-military-officials-stunned/#insticator-commenting
I was unaware the missile went around the globe before it went for its target.
I wonder how fast it actually went?
Does anyone have specs in non China measurements?

(Like the Japanese motorcycle engines in the 70’s that measured HP at the crank instead of the rear wheel, or top speeds with a 55 lb bullet shaped jockey?)

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 8:37 pm

Roger:

I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks…

You’re discounting what comes afterwards.

You’re missing the point, Roger – those bastards are the ones now advising Lucifer who to torture next.

local oaf
October 20, 2021 8:38 pm

Just got a spam email from some financial advice mob, BetaShares.

“China is ramping up its efforts to lower carbon emissions, pledging carbon neutrality and limiting steel production.”

Sure, sure they are.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 8:38 pm

It’s like 99% British or American songs.

Nein. 99 Luftballoons.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 8:39 pm

You’re discounting what comes afterwards.

I’ll bite; what did come afterwards?

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 8:41 pm

I’ll bite; what did come afterwards?

Why…God’s judgement.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 8:42 pm

Why you would put shit on Jap bikes is beyond me.

The Hayabusa is like a portable personal suicide booth.

Might get a GSX-250R after this shit is over. Love that Shoei “Stimuli” helmet too. Pity there isn’t matching leathers.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 8:44 pm

What if God is a massive troll?

Like the cable TV company guys out of South Park?

What kind of all powerful being writes the laws of thermodynamics & relativity?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 8:45 pm

This one’s for military type Cats – Keith Payne’s autobiography makes damn fine reading. Not even being awarded a Victoria Cross saves you from being fvcked around by the public servants at D.V.A……..

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 8:47 pm

You’re missing the point, Roger – those bastards are the ones now advising Lucifer who to torture next.

Lucifer is a fallen angel; he doesn’t take advice from mere humans.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 8:50 pm

What kind of all powerful being writes the laws of thermodynamics & relativity?

Laws of physics are human attempts to think God’s thoughts after him.

For a while there we all thought Newton had it figured out.

P
P
October 20, 2021 8:52 pm

Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks

Cardinal George confirms that he said it, and also adds that the quote has most frequently been used without his important follow-up sentence.

“I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.”

Megan
Megan
October 20, 2021 8:59 pm

Although this tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.

TaliDan and his minions don’t recall where they were left.

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2021 9:02 pm

The cruiser Olympia’s machine shop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRusqwcNVk

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 20, 2021 9:07 pm

Stalin died peacefully in bed;

No, he didn’t.
He spent 4 days writhing on the floor in a puddle of piss while his henchmen ran around in circles trying to save their own skins and find someone to blame.
Almost certainly poisoned

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2021 9:07 pm

JC
If you ever hang out with the hoi polloi in Europe, you must know that a large percentage of the music they listen to is English language.
I went to a soccer match in Paris once, all the music was in English, everyone sang along with gusto.
I can remember we will we will rock you.
Sitting amongst hundreds of French it was pretty hilarious.
On long haul buses in Spain
and Portugal the same, a little bit local but lots of English hits and memories.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2021 9:10 pm
JC
JC
October 20, 2021 9:13 pm

Thanks Rosie. No, I didn’t know that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 9:18 pm

Outstanding.

Back from shops. Turn on teev. Australia v India. T20.

First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

Time to break out the Turkey and unfiltered Marlboro Reds.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 9:20 pm

Apropos of, and aspirationally for Mr Warner:

his testicle exploded and the floor was covered in worms.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2021 9:22 pm

It was Paris St Germain v Monte Carlo.
Monte Carlo scored an own goal.
It was actually thousands of fans tbh.
I once rented an apartment in Lyon from a former French Rock Star. It hadn’t made him very rich.
He had a great collection of back stage passes in his la toilette though.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 9:23 pm

Deadman used to say it was perfect for a free state project.

– Bass Strait between freedom and the north island
– Small population so easier to move the numbers
– four proper seasons

25000 years ago it was covered in glaciers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 9:26 pm

For struth. The NT News:

A 50-year-old man is recovering in hospital after he was chased by a cow and hit in the chest by the animal.

You can only tow a cow for so long.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:26 pm

First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

And Michael Slater emulating the Andrew O’Keefe implosion.
All we need is for Steve Smith to be caught on tape snorting powder and the picture will be complete.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 9:27 pm

Dover
Is it really experimental though? AZ lends towards the more traditional form of vax, which means after 3 months the risk of the drug is minimal . To all intents the risk is zero.

One in 10,000 is .0001. I thought the risk was higher than that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:27 pm

You can only tow a cow for so long.

Not the first time accusations of cow-towing have appeared here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 9:28 pm

Senate stymies migrant character test proposal

Olivia Caisley
Reporter
@livcaisley
53 minutes ago October 20, 2021
No Comments

The Morrison government’s attempt to strengthen the migrant character test and make it easier to cancel the visas of violent criminals has failed for a second time after its initial proposal was defeated two years ago.

The government’s Migration and Citizenship Legislation Amendment (Strengthening Information Provisions) Bill was voted down on Wednesday by Labor, the Greens and independent senator Rex Patrick.

The vote was tied 25-25, which meant it could not proceed to the next stage and will be sent back to the House of Representatives.

Labor, the Greens and Rex Patrick…..

2dogs
October 20, 2021 9:29 pm

What’s the status of the notion that the vax can cause female infertility?

I have seen some concerns raised; so called “debunking” articles simply say “no evidence”.

But I haven’t seen where any such evidence has even been looked for. There does not seem to be any record of female infertility effects made during the clinical trials.

C.L.
C.L.
October 20, 2021 9:31 pm

No; it’s to cover their arses.

It’s to cover their arses, yes, by covering up natural immunity with 90 percent vaccination.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:31 pm

JCsays:

October 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm

Dover
Is it really experimental though? AZ lends towards the more traditional form of vax, which means after 3 months the risk of the drug is minimal . To all intents the risk is zero.

One in 10,000 is .0001. I thought the risk was higher than that.

I think the table said 1% for 50-59s and <1% for younger age groups.
Let's just say it is 0.5% for people in their desparately late 40's.
That is 1 in 200.
Even 0.1% is only 1 in a thousand.
Death by vax isn't close to that.

C.L.
C.L.
October 20, 2021 9:37 pm

When I first read about little Cleo disappearing from that campsite near Carnarvon, I was somewhat perplexed that her mother was asking Facebook for help that morning. It’s an isolated campsite. I’m not sure what Facebookers could do about it. Maybe it’s a generational thing; I dunno.

Hope an pray they find the little lass.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 9:37 pm

Dogs

There’s enough observational evidence now and no more kids than average are being born with a couple of heads and arms

Sheilas were pregnant when the vaxes were introduced at the beginning of the year and they/some took the vax. No abnormal births have been reported out of the ordinary.

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2021 9:39 pm

Black Pigeon, Cultural War:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxvoUoWI2do

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:42 pm

C.L.
When I first heard about “kidnapping on camping trip”, sadly I thought it was probably just another parent from a broken marriage not bringing the kid back after an access visit.
It does not look good.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 9:42 pm

Death by vax isn’t close to that.

just because my mate says the VX gives some prophylaxis, it doesn’t mean that the VX is free from problems.

maybe you’re minimizing yr risk to covid by VX,
concurrently though, maybe you’re doubling yr risk considering all causes.

but I’m sure you thought of that

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 9:42 pm

Hope an pray they find the little lass.

It’s not looking good – it’s starting to look like she was abducted.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:44 pm

There’s enough observational evidence now and no more kids than average are being born with a couple of heads and arms

A couple of arms is standard issue, JC.
More than one head is quite unusual this side of Bass Strait, though.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 9:45 pm

Joe hildebrand on PML is fucking idiot. And the other fools let the fucktard talk. But I must say Kenny rips the fucking fool while Bernardi couldn’t get a word in edgeways.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 9:46 pm

You can answer Dorothy Dixers put to you in pressers whilst standing next to fat Auslan chicks, or you can answer questions put to you in more formal surroundings by this bloke (the Hun):

I Cook Foods has engaged one of Australia’s top lawyers, Robert Richter QC, to take on the Andrews government over the “Slug Gate’’ scandal.

Mr Richter will fight the civil litigation against two tiers of government next year as I Cook Foods owner Ian Cook seeks damages over the shutting down of his business.

This chap’s been on the top rung of the criminal barrister ladder for decades.

Mr Richter has worked on some of the biggest cases in Australian legal history.

Among clients he has successfully defended are the late businessman John Elliott, Melbourne identity Mick Gatto, Labor Party minister Theo Theophanous and Cliff Lockwood, a Victoria Police officer charged with the murder of Gary Abdallah in 1989.

The Abdallah job was a belter. Lockwood shot Abdallah six times with his service revolver, then grabbed his offsider’s and finished him with a seventh. Richter defended him, and the jury acquitted him.

Hot Button Sutton. Check your email.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 20, 2021 9:47 pm

Does anyone have an answer to this.

The English speaking countries won the war.

The Americans played a huge role. Hollywood played a huge roll. To the victors the spoils.

#culturewars

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:48 pm

Yep.
It is an individual decision (or should be).
I am not trying to convince anyone here one way or the other (and I think most personal decisions have been locked in anyway).
Most of what I post is just “thinking aloud” about my own decision process.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 20, 2021 9:51 pm

Shoei “Stimuli” helmet…

These things are around $800!

(Someone will now say “but how expensive is your head?”)

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 9:52 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 20, 2021 at 9:18 pm

First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

Time to break out the Turkey and unfiltered Marlboro Reds.

As long as SuperMitch isn’t allowed within a trillion light years of the test team ever again, I wish him well in all other forms of cricket.

But enjoy the spectacle KD.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 9:53 pm

Stalin died peacefully in bed

Happily, Stalin died a prolonged, badly managed, and fairly disgusting death.

Two days, from being found lying, stroked, in a puddle of piss on his bedroom floor, to vomiting blood and karking.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 9:57 pm

Cleo Smith search: Up to 20 registered sex offenders living in Carnarvon
Sarah Steger
The West Australian
Wed, 20 October 2021 10:40AM

There are almost 20 registered sex offenders living in the Carnarvon area, police investigating the mysterious disappearance of Cleo Smith have revealed.

Deputy police commissioner Darryl Gaunt made the alarming admission this morning, telling 6PR officers had followed up with the long list of local sex offenders throughout the five-day long investigation.

“Part of the investigative strategies have included reaching them and making inquiries into their whereabouts and movements and at this point in time we’re very comfortable where we sit with those inquiries,” he said.

Mr Gaunt said the search for little Cleo was growing more grim by the hour, conceding “the more time goes on the less chances we’ll find Cleo alive”.

He also said no one was being ruled out by police, including Cleo’s mum and step-dad Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon, or her biological father Daniel Staines — but said investigators were not currently “looking at the parents in that nature”.

It comes after Mr Gaunt revealed earlier this morning that no members of the public who’d been staying at the Blowholes campsite in the hours before Cleo vanished without a trace from her family’s tent on Saturday morning had seen the little girl.

“We do have other evidence that we don’t disclose publicly that reassures us that she was there. So there’s nothing to infer that she wasn’t there at this stage,” he said.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 9:57 pm

The Abdallah job was a belter. Lockwood shot Abdallah six times with his service revolver, then grabbed his offsider’s and finished him with a seventh. Richter defended him, and the jury acquitted him.

A chap I am acquainted with worked on the Ty-Eyre (Walsh St murders) taskforce.
His view was that Cliffy was not terribly sharp.
His words to me were something like, “Fuck. Unloading six into him was one thing. But you’d think there might have been a moment of reflection before number seven.”

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 20, 2021 10:00 pm

Hitlers missing globe……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOwimlugio

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:01 pm

But, yes, Richter is rarely defeated* and will tear a goose like Sutton to bits.
Sutton will be desparate to get it settled as a “gesture of goodwill” for a “series of misunderstandings”.

* only when the ABC can run two years of defamation against his client.

Razey
Razey
October 20, 2021 10:03 pm

Rogersays:
October 20, 2021 at 8:41 pm
I’ll bite; what did come afterwards?

Why…God’s judgement.

If there is a God, he left this planet long ago.

We are circling the drain.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 10:07 pm

Happily, Stalin died a prolonged, badly managed, and fairly disgusting death.

Sure, but it was a natural death and any and every poor bastard goes through the same. I’m talking about a Ceausescu type death or Il Duce.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:07 pm

Mr Richter will fight the civil litigation against two tiers of government next year as I Cook Foods owner Ian Cook seeks damages over the shutting down of his business.

Two tiers of government?
That would be the State Elf Department and Dandenong Council.
Sutton may be shitting bricks, but the spiky-haired, flabby armed ‘elf lezzo from Dandy Council is about to become acquainted with the underside of the bus.
Sutton will be terribly disappointed that he was so misled by Dandy Council.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 10:10 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 20, 2021 at 9:48 pm

Sancho, in about 18 months of pandemic there have been 281 deaths “with” covid of Australians under the age of 70.
There are about 22.5 million Australians under the age of 70.
Risk of dying with covid in an 18 month period aged under 70 in Australia? .00001249. [OK, as the spivs say “past performance is no guide to future performance”, but in an order of magnitude sense that’s what we’re talking about.]
And that’s before even starting to check how many of the 281 actually died of covid as compared with dying of something else and just being covid-positive, and how many who did genuinely die of covid had serious comorbidities anyway.
Whereas if you take the vaxx, there’s a 100% chance that you’ve taken the vaxx, so the raw vaxx figures are the correct ones to use. (And query whether it’s as low as the official figures say – at least in Qld doctors have been gently discouraged from putting “covid vaxx” as a cause of death on a death certificate.)
As you say, it’s up to you, but always, and I mean ALWAYS, question government stats.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:13 pm

Whereas if you take the vaxx, there’s a 100% chance that you’ve taken the vaxx

One of the fundamentals in my thought process is that there is something approaching 100% chance of virus exposure within tye next 2-3 years, so I treat that as a wash.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 10:13 pm

Yes, poor old Cliffy.

Resigned in the 90s post-acquittal. Worked as a locksmith, of all things before heading to Darwin.

Tried to join the NT jacks, who told him to fuck off. Became a taxi driver and a chemical enthusiast with a bent for commercial gain. When they raided his poxy one-bedder, they found a gigantic pile pf precursor amphet drugs, and a bucket next to his bed filled to the brim with his own shit because the dunny stopped working. Allegedly.

He was (and probably still is) that kinda guy. I think he’s in Timor.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 10:15 pm

I’m just shy of 50, in the overweight cat. but without any actual comorbidities and it’s 1 in 10000 for me. Why would anyone take a experimental vac still in the trial stage with odds like that?

Your 1 in 10,000 chance of death depends on your contracting the disease in the first place.

Depending on your circumstances, short-term, the risk of that in Australia is tiny. So, estimating your current absolute risk, multiplying 1 in 10,000 by ‘tiny’ = minuscule – probably far less than your Jab risk.

In the longer term, if we are all going to get infected, your absolute risk will move towards your age risk.
Then you might reassess.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:15 pm

And I’ve posted a vid in the last week that suggests that the repeated use of these non-classical vaxxes represent which haven’t been clinically tested yet and which are reflected in the caution with boosters.

(my estimate) What, 2 billion people have been given the vax since the start of the year and side effects have been reported back. That’s more than clinical testing. Far more.

JC and Sancho, I gave the odds for someone my age, weight and health, not everyone within my age group. If the choice is why anyone would take the vaxx why would you incl. those unlike me in terms of health status in the determination?

Okay, let’s assume the chances of one dying are that one in 10,000, but with that we should also include the risk of one getting it over one’s life is 100%. Everyone is going to end up getting it.

The risk of dying with the shot is 0ne in a million and if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

Is it worth the risk? Yep, it sounds like it.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:17 pm

Neilson

Stop ruining the discussion but pretending you’re smart and sexy. (You’re not). Let’s stick with Dover’s given risk profile.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:25 pm

More about this:

…if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

We have an off the boat Italian working for us at the family business. It sounds like the idiot is on Italian blog I wonder if there’s a NovaCatallaxia, where he’s been fed frightening stuff about the vax. He took a week off this week for a number of doc visits and tests he’s organized to hopefully, obtain an exemption. I don’t think he will, although he asked me not to give out negative vibes when I said this.

They’ll test the fuck for all sorts of shit, I guess. His heart.. can they test for clotting or does that just show up?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sutton will be desparate to get it settled as a “gesture of goodwill” for a “series of misunderstandings”.

I’m keen to see Richter QC laying into Sutton & likewise into the council numpties.
Were I in Ian Cook’s shoes (& I have been) I’d want Richter to rip their entrails out.

IMO there’s at least 6 people involved who should serve a gaol term. One year minimum, preferably two.
What was done at ICook foods was malicious, wicked, deliberate, and wilful.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:27 pm

Were I in Ian Cook’s shoes (& I have been)

Of course.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:28 pm

Aka High Court Driller.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2021 10:30 pm

Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.

komrade the revolution must be front of mind at all time

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:31 pm

Thanks Dover.
I just did the Oxford Risk thingy.
My risk is a little higher than yours due to one risk factor which I am aware of (and probably a few years in age).
Not terribly surprising for me, but it would be an excellent tool for anyone screaming “we’re all gonna diiiieee!”, because even “high risk” people have an good survival chance.
However, I still lean towards vax being less dastardly than the virus … for me.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 10:31 pm

One of the fundamentals in my thought process is that there is something approaching 100% chance of virus exposure within tye next 2-3 years, so I treat that as a wash.

Fair comment, but remember that the covid cases reported for the last 18 months are almost certainly understated.
Certainly here in Victoria we’re incessantly being told that the official turdologists have identified covid in the sewerage in LGA’s that have no reported cases. I’m not sure how to estimate what percentage of the population have already actually had the virus and just not noticed, so I guess it’s hard to factor that into a decision, but it’s a factor nevertheless. I’d start by looking at what percentage of those tested are found to be positive. The percentage for the whole population would presumably be less, but query how much so. (Or maybe not. Of course those tested are just tested at one time, whereas for others (and even those tested and shown negative) there’s an 18 month period where they might have got it without it showing up in stats.)

Therefore, query whether the chances of being exposed to the virus over the next 2 or 3 years would be hugely greater than for the last 18 months (apart from the simple doubling of the time period, of course). Probably somewhat so if the promises about “opening up” are kept, but even then there’s data which suggests masks and lockdowns don’t achieve much, so even that’s not certain.

Hard to say, but it doesn’t seem straightforward to calculate that covid risk is orders of magnitude greater than vaxx risk if you’re well under 70 and in good health.

And of course in deciding whether to take the “provisionally approved” new jabs, other unquantifiables include whether and when Novavax will be available (and is, as it seems from the tests, safer), or treatments or other safer vaxxes will become readily available.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 20, 2021 10:32 pm

Anyone considered how long it will be before you are required to get a “Double Jab” to get Certification to work?

For example, a “RSA” (Responsible Service of Alcohol Certificate)? Or a “Food Handling Certificate”? Or any other types of “Certificates” you care to think of.

The state can smash your work options with the stroke of a pen.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 10:34 pm

Black Pigeon, Cultural War

thanks rick, that was nice.
I haven’t watched a BP video for a year or two.

he was 100% right all the way up until the very end

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:35 pm

Dover

One of your posters, who shall remain nameless unless at some stage he wants to out himself, he caught it last year and told me he continues on steroids because of the after effects. It’s not the flu. I’m not suggesting not to go about life and enjoy yourself. I’m very far for that. This is a seriously nasty little illness that can leave you with long lasting problems.
I had bronchitis when I was a kid of about 4 or so. I can still remember it. It left scar tissue in one of the lungs and that area doesn’t work, according to the docs. No biggie as I would never have known it was there without imaging. But this was bronchitis in me as a kid.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:36 pm

JCsays:

October 20, 2021 at 10:17 pm

Neilson

Stop ruining the discussion but pretending you’re smart and sexy. (You’re not). Let’s stick with Dover’s given risk profile.

Yeah, we were at cross purposes there.
I was using generic age-bandings of risk and dover had run his own calc through the Oxford Risk thingy.
Aaaaaand … cue the cries of “but Oxford is in the pocket of Big Pharma”.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 10:36 pm

JCsays:
October 20, 2021 at 10:17 pm

How tiresome. Josemite Çam is in one of his “hold the magnifying glass in front of my penis” moods.

And has no actual critique of anything I said.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 10:36 pm

The state can smash your work options with the stroke of a pen.

your work authorization is now dependent on health-care by subscription.

overseen by the same authority that kept iFoods going strong

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 10:39 pm

you know what i mean … iCook

fuck off … eat the bugs

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 10:46 pm

When I was running the old business an Aboriginal old duck actually went to Carnarvon to “ steal” her granddaughter from her mother.
Apparently the daughter was a pisswreck and chemical enthusiast.
But the big problem was a known kiddie fiddler keeping an “ open house” with booze and drugs for free/ cheap.
Gave him access to kids while parents were drugged out.

Lived outside town is about the only indication of where he was though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:47 pm

Given that anecdotal “evidence” is the order of the day, here goes.
We live near a small-ish town.
Population of the LGA is about 15,000. I wouldn’t say everyone knows everyone else’s business, but if something untoward happens, news spreads quickly.
Last time I looked the LGA was something close to 90% with one vax and nearly 70% with two.
I haven’t heard of one serious adverse vax reaction.
Sure, it is just anecdotal, and it is a small sample in the scheme of things.
But it carries the same weight as “my sister-in-law’s best friend’s beauty therapist’s mother collapsed and died straight after the vax”.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:47 pm

Also, I don’t think you lose your immunity from the vax. It just reduces over time.

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2021 10:49 pm

The risk of dying with the shot is 0ne in a million and if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

mRNA vaccines have the potential to cause immune response issues 2-3 years in. This is a long way from done and dusted.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:52 pm

But it carries the same weight as “my sister-in-law’s best friend’s beauty therapist’s mother collapsed and died straight after the vax”.

Our off the boat Italian dude said a similar thing. In his town… it’s always about his town.. his friend’s dad got the vax and then straight after began to lose his breath going up the stairs to his apartment. I suggested his use the elevate then.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:53 pm

Come on, Sancho, don’t keep us in suspense, how close to death are you?

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
Not at all.
I mean, my “risk factors” are fairly mild really, but the Oxford model doesn’t give you a scale of 1-10.
It still heavily leans towards vax as a prudent option for me.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 10:54 pm

Rick

How do we know this as I’m genuinely interested because I keep reading the risk falls to zero or close to beyond 3 months. Is this the more traditional vaxes?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 10:56 pm

his friend’s dad got the vax and then straight after began to lose his breath going up the stairs to his apartment.

Yeah.
Seventy years of tortellini, vino and smokes will do that.
Buy on the ground floor.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 10:57 pm

straight after began to lose his breath going up the stairs to his apartment. I suggested his use the elevate then.

Tell him not to get in the one Lizzie used.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 20, 2021 10:57 pm

This is a long way from done and dusted.

Always escalate.

[insert smiley face here].

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 20, 2021 11:01 pm

but who is checking the level of wuflu in the wombat population???

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 11:06 pm

Yes, completely understand the odds I gave above is the worst case. It’s why I’m sanguine about the virus; I’d actually like to contract it and gain the requisite natural immunity.

That was my take on the matter also.

Right up until Comrade Sneakers decreed today that I must be double-dose therapised by January 1st, 2022…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 11:13 pm

Right up until Comrade Sneakers decreed today that I must be double-dose therapised by January 1st, 2022…

King Canute Sneakers has just had the dawning realisation that he can’t keep the Covid tide back, having promised to “keep WA safe”.
I still maintain he is the craziest prick of them all, Hunchback and PalaceChook included.
Standby for some Olympic standard fuckwittery out of him in coming months.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 11:14 pm

Standby for some Olympic standard fuckwittery out of him in coming months.

Please let it be secession.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 11:18 pm

Let me ask.

Revealed preferences is always a great tell. It’s not full proof but in the US and strands of medical specialisation here it would be. I would not trust GPs because they’re just glorified nurses.
Specialists are a species apart and although there’s a great deal of coercion here, there isn’t as much in the US.
So, what are US specialists doing in terms of getting the vax.

Particularly, what are they doing in Florida or Texas? Are there more or less vaxxed specialists in those two states than the population?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 11:18 pm

Please let it be secession.

Western Australia went into Federation under protest. Oh, as the late, great “Lang” Hancock said “Defence? Half a dozen strike aircraft with atomic weapons will solve that!”

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 20, 2021 11:19 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 11:22 pm

Please let it be secession.

And take Mitch Marsh and Justin Langer with you.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 11:24 pm

It’s a family war cry moment.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 20, 2021 11:27 pm

Australia is an official Fascist Country with unelected Public Servants telling us what we are allowed to know.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 11:29 pm

Cameron Bancroft too.

Cheating flog.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 11:31 pm

Cameron Bancroft too.

Who?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 11:40 pm

Please let it be secession.

I’m all for secession. Anyone detected wearing white, ironed Docle and Gabbana jeans, with polished loafers with tassels, will be escorted to the border, at the edge of the Nullabor plain, given a water bag and told to walk home.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 11:41 pm

Standby for some Olympic standard fuckwittery out of him in coming months.

Wot? Beyond what he’s already come out with?

Stop it- Your doom-bombs are even nastier than Arky’s… 🙁 🙁 🙁

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 11:43 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

October 20, 2021 at 11:40 pm

Please let it be secession.

I’m all for secession. 

And so are we.
And when Xi starts buying iron ore from Africa, youse can stay seceded.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 20, 2021 11:45 pm

escorted to the border, at the edge of the Nullabor plain, given a water bag and told to walk home.

but they can have a wheel barrow.

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 20, 2021 11:46 pm

The problem hanging over these covid vaccines is the fact that no one has been able to produce a successful corona vaccine previously.

Robert Malone says they have been trying for 50 years. Certainly it’s been going on since SARS 1 in 2002.

Suddenly they are able to do it in 6 months, apparently using technology that has been available for a while. Yet that technology never led to a successful, marketable product until now, when the safeguards appear to have been relaxed and the approval process accelerated.

Moderna (Mode RNA) has never brought a product to market until this covid vaxx. According to an article sent out by Dr Mercola, Moderna is a secretive company that was reliant on their hard charging salesman of a CEO to remain financially viable, lost some of their to R&D scientists and refused to publish data to back up it’s claims that it would “revolutionise medicine” with it’s mRNA products.

Before COVID-19, Moderna was in danger of hemorrhaging investors, as persistent safety concerns and other doubts about its mRNA delivery system threatened its entire product pipeline. Fear caused by the pandemic crisis made those concerns largely evaporate, even though there is no proof that they were ever resolved.

I wont be relying on dodgy government assurances that the jabs are safe until enough time has passed for the hype and fear to settle and for people to start asking what some of us have been from the start’ “why are they doing this?”

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 20, 2021 11:50 pm

And when Xi starts buying iron ore from Africa, youse can stay seceded.

African Iron Ore is like African Oil, African Cobol, African XI promises.

Muddy
Muddy
October 20, 2021 11:51 pm

Who cares if one more light goes out
in a sky of a million stars? It flickers, flickers.
Who cares when someone’s time runs out
if a moment is all we are? Or quicker, quicker.
Who cares if one more light goes out …
Well, I DO.

(One More light – Linkin Park).

I hope everyone is managing whatever challenges they are facing.
(I’m fine: I just wanted to send out a message. (I’m on a youtube music nostalgia binge).
Sometimes we have to break it down to a day-by-day thing.
Often we are our own harshest critics.
If you have made it this far, maybe you can drag yourself a bit further?
(There’s no such thing as a graceful drag mark – make it expressive!).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 11:51 pm

And when Xi starts buying iron ore from Africa, youse can stay seceded.

Who’ll prop up the mendicant States, then? Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 12:07 am

someone called Neil over at Adamcat keeps banging on about Howard/Costello had no debt…

This is my latest response

Neil

Before Federation and the introduction of the Fabian Communist “Australian Constitution” there was no “Australian Government Debt” either.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 21, 2021 12:08 am

More wonderful news about the left eating their own, from Breitbart.

Author Margaret Atwood is a hero of the woke left, which has long adored her novel The Handmaid’s Tale and the feminist Hulu series adapted from it. But with one tweet, the novelist has now become the target of hate from the same woke fane base after she shared an article that questioned the increasing prevalence of terms like “person with a vagina” and “person who menstruates” in place of “woman.”

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 12:25 am

The Irrelevant Climate Change ‘Consensus’
By Anthony Watts

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_irrelevant_climate_change_consensus.html

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2021 12:31 am

Honeymoon over for Lisa Wilkinson’s pay gripe with Karl Stefanovic

James Madden
Media Editor
Sophie Elsworth
Media Writer
@sophieelsworth
An hour ago October 20, 2021
5 Comments

It wasn’t meant to be like this.

Former Today host Lisa Wilkinson, who has positioned herself as the poster girl for pay parity, now faces a tough battle to control her tightly scripted public narrative amid claims that she commanded double the salary of her on-air breakfast show co-host Karl Stefanovic from at least 2007 to 2011.

That revelation, published by news.com.au’s political editor Samantha Maiden on Tuesday, appears to have taken the wind out of one of the central themes of Wilkinson’s autobiography — that is, that the TV host felt cheated and humiliated when she discovered in late 2015 that the tables had turned, and Stefanovic was by then earning more than twice what she was pocketing.

Other recollections in her book also have been challenged by the emergence of a video of the pair’s final appearance together on air. Wilkinson writes in her book that she was especially upset by Stefanovic’s treatment of her on her last day at Nine in October 2017 when she claims he treated her with “uncaring disregard’’ and barely spoke to her when the cameras weren’t rolling.

Leaked video of the day in question suggests Wilkinson’s recollections were way off the mark.

In a bizarre postscript to the publication of the article about Wilkinson’s pay, the news.com.au journalist found herself under ­attack on social media by Brittany Higgins. But Higgins was the woman whose terrible plight was first brought to national attention by Maiden. Ms Higgins, who is extremely close to Wilkinson (indeed, a whole chapter of her autobiography is devoted to the former political staffer), was clearly annoyed by Maiden’s slight on her friend, dismissing the merits of the ­article with a sarcastic post on Twitter, which was endorsed by Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

All is not well in the bouncy castle?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 12:33 am

This is what Turnbull is grafting for…

Fake news is going to have a field day: Murdoch’s lefty son hands AP big cash for more global warming coverage
By Monica Showalter

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/10/fake_news_is_going_to_have_a_field_day_murdochs_lefty_son_hands_ap_big_cash_for_more_global_warming_coverage.html

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 12:39 am

The Specter of One World Government Looms Large
By E. Jeffrey Ludwig

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_specter_of_one_world_government_looms_large.html

The U.N.’s Agenda 2030 is still in place, and the clock is ticking toward its empowerment — only eight years and two-plus months to go. This Agenda is for a new world government, which will implement the policies of the Agenda.

This new government on our horizon explains many of the failures in policies in these first months of the Biden administration. The failures are based not so much on mistakes as on deliberate sabotage to weaken our country, dilute the power that undergirds our sovereignty, and prepare us to accept one world government.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 12:44 am

The Real Cost of Government Mandated Wind and Solar
By Norman Rogers

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_real_cost_of_government_mandated_wind_and_solar.html

The government and big financial institutions promote a fraudulent analysis of the cost of solar and wind electricity. Their narrative is that wind and solar are competitive with traditional fossil fuels and that the cost of wind and solar is rapidly dropping. Academics and the media amplify and spread the fraudulent analysis.

The basis of the fraud is a simple comparison of the cost per kilowatt hour at the plant fence for electricity produced by wind or solar versus electricity produced by a traditional plant. Some or all of the massive subsidies for wind and solar are ignored in such comparisons. With such a rigged comparison, wind or solar may seem competitive.

A proper comparison reveals that wind or solar are five or even ten times more expensive than natural gas or coal electricity. To understand why this is so, we have to explain some basic facts that apply to either wind or solar.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2021 12:51 am

FlyingPigs says:
October 21, 2021 at 12:44 am

Flying Pigs, just asking, your callsign anything to do with the old F -111?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 1:24 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

October 21, 2021 at 12:51 am

FlyingPigs says:
October 21, 2021 at 12:44 am

Flying Pigs, just asking, your callsign anything to do with the old F -111?

I loathe the French… but no ZK2A … just the alliteration that pigs might fly…

mind you… have met some folk… including folk that worked in maintenance.

saddest thing I did was go to Townsville for a few months back yay whenever and listen to folk’s pain.

Including an F111 pilot.

Australia does not look after their warriors they ask to go fight.

But I got my cousin, who had been on the front line, to survive the foul Public Service veteran Affairs.

He’s a bastard but I love him.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 1:43 am

The French Elite teach communists how to rule and then send soldiers to put down their Elite students.

How many communist dictators studied in France?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 21, 2021 1:49 am

And the French Elite are telling UK we will turn off the power if you do not do what we tell you to do….

Fuck off this time UK… you are on your own.

Tom
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struth
struth
October 21, 2021 4:35 am

Just scrolling back.
Our country is under seige and people here nearly two years later obviously believe their greatest threat to their welfare is the covid and whether or not to get jabbed.
With all they know.
And because they obsessed with what matters little instead of what the real threat to them is…..they get no choice in the decision they’ve been fretting about anyway.
It really has been an eye opener these last 20 months, that’s for sure.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 5:29 am
rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 5:54 am

Looks like Victoria is publishing the data but not easy to find.

“In Victoria, 174 Covid-19 deaths occurred between 30 August and 19 October 2021. Of these, 129 were not vaccinated, 25 were partially vaccinated, and 20 were fully vaccinated with two doses. Of the 20 deaths that were fully vaccinated, one was aged in their 50s, while the remaining 19 were all aged 70 years and over.”

Oh and it looks like I was correct about likely vaccination status of covid deaths in Victoria and the yappy chihuahuas were wrong.
death among the double vaccinated what is behind the Australian statistics, at the Guardian

win
win
October 21, 2021 6:09 am

ZKTA 12.31 : Allis not well in the bouncy castle. Why would a nonentity such as Wilkinson be given daily exposure in the Daily Mail knowing that the DM head information manager calls the shots what is he pushing.?

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 6:12 am

PJW, the Symbolism of Squid Game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIhIDHXgh3U

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 6:25 am

How do we know this as I’m genuinely interested because I keep reading the risk falls to zero or close to beyond 3 months. Is this the more traditional vaxes?

This seems to have been the issue with all initial trials of mRNA vaccines in animals. Did they really manage to solve the problem?

Mater
October 21, 2021 6:30 am

“In Victoria, 174 Covid-19 deaths occurred between 30 August and 19 October 2021. Of these, 129 were not vaccinated, 25 were partially vaccinated, and 20 were fully vaccinated with two doses. Of the 20 deaths that were fully vaccinated, one was aged in their 50s, while the remaining 19 were all aged 70 years and over.”

They released the age demographics of the vaxxed deaths, what about the unvaxxed and partially vaxxed deaths? If not, you must ask yourself, why not?

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 21, 2021 6:43 am

I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed

He may have taken in last breath in bed but he lay on the floor of his apartment for nearly 8 hours in his own faeces and urine after the stroke, when they found him he was conscious but unable to move or speak and his face was filled with terror. The History Channel recently had a biography of Stalin and noted that the staff knew something was wrong for 8 hours but were too frightened to go into the room, if they had gone in when they first suspected it he would likely have survived but the delay ensured his death. That appears to be a bit of a reckoning.

sfw
sfw
October 21, 2021 6:48 am

A lot here seem obsessed with the efficacy or otherwise of the vaxxes, that’s important and worth discussing but isn’t the real point that the gov are almost (not quite) forcing people to get jabbed regardless of those peoples wishes? It started with fluoridation of water, progressed to seatbelts and is now at the stage where it seems that most of the population want the gov to impose a medical procedure on the unwilling. Whether it’s good for you or anyone else is irrelevant, it should be your choice and whatever you decide you should not be subject to discrimination. There is room and precedence for quarantine for the infected as long as they’re infectious, normally only a few days and that’s it.

I’ve lost all respect for the medical profession, doctors, nurses, chemists injecting unwilling people with experimental drugs against their will. I was amazed when I first heard of the nazi doctors, and they were at the extreme but looking around now at full term abortions, forced injections and full support for the gov, it seems that expert knowledge and high intelligence is no barrier to barbarism anywhere.

will
will
October 21, 2021 6:50 am
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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 6:52 am

Poor old Stalin.

He gets a lot of bad press. If only he’d done Communism right.

Zatara
Zatara
October 21, 2021 6:53 am

Move over hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
Make room for the next well trusted medication whose name cannot now be spoke…. asprin.

Is Aspirin the New Horse Dewormer?

Mater
October 21, 2021 6:56 am

I’ve lost all respect for the medical profession, doctors, nurses, chemists injecting unwilling people with experimental drugs against their will.

I’ll throw in the Judiciary, Human Rights activists and our political system, for good measure.

Not one of our ‘respected’ institutions has demonstrated that they are worth so much as a c**t full of cold water.

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 6:57 am

rickw:

The cruiser Olympia’s machine shop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXRusqwcNVk
I never actually thought about that sort of thing on a ship. Yes, the concept of being able to repair stuff at sea is logical but we tend to think of repairs as just replacing a part from stores.
It wasn’t until I read a Tom Clancy novel in which the main bloke mentioned a machine shop in a bunker that probably was intended for a destroyer, then it clicked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 6:58 am

Good post sfw.

expert knowledge and high intelligence is no barrier to barbarism anywhere.

Speaking of Stalin.

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 7:04 am

Dover0Beach:

I’ve been thinking of this lately. And three very good points. Energy independence also a + and it’s hydro.

I went looking at stuff last night, seeing what mineral resources there were in Tasmania.
Not a great deal, but there was quite a bit of specialty stuff.
The issue with hydro is the locals impede progress so to build an industrial base you’ll need nukes for the droughts.
Meanwhile they can just depend on the North Island for welfare without disturbing their trees etc.
“Nukes – Build It and They Will Go.”

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 7:09 am

2dogs:

What’s the status of the notion that the vax can cause female infertility?
I have seen some concerns raised; so called “debunking” articles simply say “no evidence”.
But I haven’t seen where any such evidence has even been looked for. There does not seem to be any record of female infertility effects made during the clinical trials.

I don’t know about you, 2dogs, but I find the lack of evidence either way, or even the absence of published knowledge to be a bit – disturbing.
But I’m a cynic.

shatterzzz
October 21, 2021 7:21 am

Maybe old age has, finally, caught up with me .. I’ve read this twice and still can’t fathom if Prue Goward is being serious or applying for a job at the Babylon Bee ………!
Hopefully, it’s the latter ……..!
https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/don-t-underestimate-the-underclass-20211018-p5910c

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 7:28 am

It was mentioned yesterday that Michael Slater was following the Andrew O’Keeffe business model of recommended activities after engaging in a bit of domestic violence.

Chapter 2 – Deflect and Claim Victimhood (the Hun):

Australian cricket great Michael Slater has admitted himself into treatment after being charged with stalking or intimidating his former girlfriend.

The former Test opening batsman was arrested yesterday and spent the day at Manly police station where he was charged over the incident involving ex-partner Melanie Livesay.

It was the piss and the nose beers that made me do it.

Chapter 3 – Engage PR Team:

Slater’s manager Sean ­Anderson said the former cricketer was suffering from mental health issues.

“Michael has been privately battling health and mental issues for some time now,’’ Mr Anderson said in a statement to The Daily Telegraph.

“He has today admitted himself into care in order to continue his treatment. He is also receiving legal advice in relation to today’s charges.”

Like so many public figures. Great at what they do, or did. Shit human beings.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 7:35 am

Anna, the Supreme Queenslander, on Skah:

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Unsure how welcoming your lifeboat is, Anna dear.

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 7:41 am

Oxford Risk Calculator:
COVID associated death 0.4229% 1 in 236 0.0488% 1 in 2049 8.666
COVID associated hospital admission 1.1368% 1 in 88 0.1493% 1 in 670 7.6142
Seeing that one of the main outcomes is Myocarditis/Cardiomyopathy from the vax, I’ll still give it a miss.

Cassie of Sydney
October 21, 2021 7:41 am

Former Today host Lisa Wilkinson, who has positioned herself as the poster girl for pay parity”

Nice to see her “story” torn to shreds. Lisa Cane Toad Wilkinson, like her husband Pirate Man, is just a poster girl for herself.

And its amusing to see two of the cabal of monstrous females, little girls Brittany Higgins and Grace Tame, pop their heads up to shill for their buddy of two minutes, Mrs Cane Toad. Given the looming trial, Brittany Higgins should keep a low profile…..instead she’s gifting the defence a lot of ammunition. I say good, very good.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 7:43 am

That’s the problem with premiers that think they were sent to look after us.
I had this argument with a supposedly adult male on twitter middle of last year.
You look after your health, not the premier.
No one should be told they have to get the vaccine, or else.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 21, 2021 7:45 am

Rosie
What is clear from released data is the careful and deliberate weaning of the population from facts that don’t support the approved version of truth.
NSW only gives you useless cumulative totals for vaccination status in hospital.
Victoria has dropped the partial vax column after a strange statistical about face in the logical progression of those numbers.
The flow of information to the public is now officially political.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 7:46 am

I haven’t heard astrazeneca causes myocarditis, thought that was pfizer and astrazeneca caused TTS.

Indolent
Indolent
October 21, 2021 7:47 am

Is Aspirin the New Horse Dewormer?

I don’t see why not. It’s the first thing I’ve taken (or was given) when I felt a cold coming on since I was a child.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 7:49 am

I’m not saying it isn’t hard to find, it is hard to find.
I was saying that I got jumped all over for suggesting that Victorian deaths weren’t running at 100% fully vaccinated, on the basis of mere supposition.

miltonf
miltonf
October 21, 2021 7:50 am

Media parasites continue to reveal themselves to be poisonous narcissists. Wilkinson used to do ‘Dolly’ magazine. Packer poison. A bit like Buttrose and Cleo.

Megan
Megan
October 21, 2021 7:51 am

What’s the status of the notion that the vax can cause female infertility?
I have seen some concerns raised; so called “debunking” articles simply say “no evidence”.

The ‘no evidence’ bit is most likely correct. Infertility issues will take some time to become apparent. In my day you raised it with the doc if you had spent two years unsuccessfully trying to have a baby. This has shrunk to a year now, possibly because of the I want it now mindset and also the availability of many, many, fertility specialists and their expensive clinics.
So there won’t be much evidence until the requisite 12 to 18 months post vax pregnancy or no pregnancy numbers are available.

Razey
Razey
October 21, 2021 7:56 am

rosiesays:
October 21, 2021 at 7:46 am
I haven’t heard astrazeneca causes myocarditis, thought that was pfizer and astrazeneca caused TTS.

I’d hazard a guess that AZ is safer than the mRNA ones. If/when you do get it, then insist on aspiration. If they wont do it, find a nurse who will.

I would be interested in getting novavax, but it’s doubtful they will give it to us as the initial shot.

will
will
October 21, 2021 7:58 am

I’d hazard a guess that AZ is safer than the mRNA ones. If/when you do get it, then insist on aspiration.

wot is “aspiration”

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 8:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 21, 2021 8:01 am

The arms race is heating up between the U.S. and China. Just last week, China revealed its brand new “space nukes”, which are capable of easily nuking any country on the planet. The United States responded swiftly to the provocation by unveiling the world’s first trans admiral.

“China, you’ve been warned,” said Biden to a Chinese food delivery person he mistook for President Xi. “Our transgender admiral is fully armed and operational. If you cross us, we will unleash the full fire and fury of this deadly weapon upon you, make no mistake.”

Mater
October 21, 2021 8:01 am

Infertility issues will take some time to become apparent.

For those of child bearing age.

Another line of investigation should be what it does to 12 year old girls, as they continue to develop.
There are many unknowns still floating around. Few seem to care.

At most, given the new nature of these vaccines, we should be voluntarily vaccinating the minimum number of people to achieve the desired result…just in case. The desired result appears to be minimising the strain on the hospital system. My graphs on the other thread indicate that (thus far) vaccinating the under 60’s is not having a measurable impact on this. Forcing these individuals to vaccinate, seems counter intuitive (as well as unethical). Good Risk Management processes are being completely ignored.

Razey
Razey
October 21, 2021 8:04 am

willsays:
October 21, 2021 at 7:58 am
I’d hazard a guess that AZ is safer than the mRNA ones. If/when you do get it, then insist on aspiration.

wot is “aspiration”

For intramuscular injections they ‘used’ to put the needle into your muscle and draw back on the plunger a little for a few seconds to ensure they weren’t on a blood vessel. Nowadays they are ‘taught’ that this isn’t required.

Dr Been on youtube and others have mentioned that this ‘hitting the a blood vessel’ may be the cause of quiet a few of the adverse events. As you would guess, you don’t want the spike proteins being produced in other uncontrolled locations (such as your heart).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 8:04 am

Mater at 6:30.
Go here for total Kung Flu deaths.
If you had the stats for last year you could deduce this years.
But it is, as we know, weighted heavily towards older people.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 8:04 am

The arms race is heating up between the U.S. and China.

Q: Where does General Milley keep his armies?
A: In his sleevies.

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 8:05 am

Flying Pigs:

Instead of “rights,” the two buzzwords that appear throughout the Agenda are “needs” and “sustainability.” “Needs” resonates with the Marxist dictum “from each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.”

None of these idiots have heard of the story of the Little Red Hen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 8:09 am

the Little Red Hen

But enough about Pallashay.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:11 am

Just supposing Trump had won last year.

A hypothetical. Would the “vaccines” produced under his watch be so fiercely spruiked by media and influencers and governments, or would they have died a quiet death?

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:13 am

I see someone was attacked by a cow in the NT.

Never Forget.

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